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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
[00:36] You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host, Michael Kosta.

Speaker 4:
[01:05] Oh, yeah, baby.

Speaker 5:
[01:06] Whoa, what a show.

Speaker 4:
[01:07] Welcome to The Daily Show.

Speaker 6:
[01:09] I'm Michael Kosta.

Speaker 7:
[01:10] We've got so much to talk about tonight. Pete Hegseth rocks the boat. Donald Trump declares war on windmills, and the Navy is about to make sure that witches get stitches. So, let's get into the latest on the war in Iran.

Speaker 8:
[01:25] Nothing bad can happen. It can only good happen.

Speaker 7:
[01:30] All eyes are still on the Strait of Hormuz, which we can now all agree is the most important narrow waterway in the world. Look, no offense to the Panama Canal, but if I were you, I'd f***ing kill myself. Anyway, as part of Trump's efforts to pressure Iran to open the strait, the US. Navy is blockading all Iranian ports along the coastline, which is a very complex, difficult task. But luckily, we've got the steady, stable leadership of US. Navy Secretary John Phelan to get the job done.

Speaker 9:
[02:03] US. Navy Secretary John Phelan ousted from his position effective immediately. What?

Speaker 7:
[02:12] You're in the middle of a major naval operation and you're firing the guy whose job is to be in charge of major naval operations? Just because what? He looks like a high school principal who's always asking the girls for hugs? How else are you going to say congrats on sophomore year? There must be a reason.

Speaker 10:
[02:36] Tensions between Phelan and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had been mounting, according to multiple sources familiar with the relationship. The approach Phelan was taking when it came to shipbuilding appears to have been the main reason for the firing.

Speaker 7:
[02:49] Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I can't tell you how many friends I've lost arguing about shipbuilding. It's actually kind of sad. Tim, Gary, Todd, I know we haven't spoken since our big fight about whether a displacement hall is superior to a semi-displacement hall. I still think that a semi-displacement offers better balance of range and speed, but I wish it hadn't torn our friendship apart, especially since none of us were actually building a ship. Also, sorry for banging your wives. In retrospect, that was childish and uncalled for.

Speaker 4:
[03:33] I think that will do it.

Speaker 7:
[03:37] But this firing is a little concerning, especially because we're losing all of the military expertise that I'm sure John Phelan had been bringing for the job for I assume years.

Speaker 10:
[03:47] Before taking the job just 13 months ago, Phelan was a Florida businessman and a major donor to President Trump's campaigns. He had never served in the military.

Speaker 7:
[03:55] Holy shit, that's it? They put a guy in charge of the US. Navy because he's good at being rich? Secretary, six incoming torpedoes. Quick, throw some money at them. I mean... But still, Trump hangs out with lots of rich people. There must have been something more about John Phelan that he liked.

Speaker 11:
[04:15] John Phelan is named on a flight manifest, indicating that he flew on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane in March 2006.

Speaker 7:
[04:23] God damn. That plane was like a LinkedIn for creeps. Someone on there must have been like, yeah, I diddle kids, but only for the networking. So maybe it's not so bad that Hegseth isn't Phelan Phelan anymore, but who's taking the helm from him?

Speaker 10:
[04:42] Replacing him as acting head of the Navy will be Undersecretary Hung Cao, a combat veteran who ran unsuccessful campaigns for the House and Senate in Virginia.

Speaker 8:
[04:51] This is a great gentleman. I love his name, Hung Cao. I love that name.

Speaker 7:
[04:56] Okay, sure. I'm sure he loves that name now. But how long until Trump forgets Hung Cao's name and starts trying to get close? Hey, the carrier's under attack. Where's Fat Dong, huh? Hey, anyone seen Chubby Wang? By the way, Hung Cao was my nickname in high school. That's right, ladies, I was well-endowed and my farts caused climate change. Now, to be clear, Cao does have some things that you want in a Navy secretary, like 20 years' experience in the Navy. But in case you're worried that Trump accidentally hired someone normal, not so fast, for example, he seems very concerned about Christians being persecuted, even when it's a bit of a stretch.

Speaker 12:
[05:51] There's a place in Monterey, California, called Lovers Point.

Speaker 7:
[05:55] Yeah.

Speaker 12:
[05:56] The original name was Lovers of Christ Point, but now it's become, they took out the Christ, it's Lovers Point.

Speaker 7:
[06:02] Oh, okay. That's very interesting. So that's actually just like Orlando originally was called Orland, Don't You Love Jesus. Is changing it from Lovers of Christ Point to Lovers Point that big of a deal? I mean, if they change it to Rim Job Lovers Point, yeah, fine. That might send a signal. But they didn't, and that's why I have no interest in going. But sorry, I interrupted. You were talking about how all the Christians were driven out of Monterey, California. So what happened next?

Speaker 12:
[06:36] And it's really, Monterey is a very dark place now. A lot of witchcraft and the Wiccan community has really taken over there. And we can't let that happen to Virginia.

Speaker 4:
[06:46] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[06:46] No, yeah, we can't let Virginia be taken over by witches. Also, I have a follow up question. What the f*** are you talking about?

Speaker 4:
[06:57] Why?

Speaker 7:
[06:58] I mean, why is everybody they appoint so f***ing crazy? Can they just find a normal person with a normal head on his shoulders who believes normal things? What kind of sailors does this guy even want to recruit?

Speaker 12:
[07:13] When you're using a drag queen to recruit for the Navy, that's not the people we want. What we need is alpha males and alpha females.

Speaker 7:
[07:23] Alpha females, right. So drag queens.

Speaker 4:
[07:34] Maybe he's right, maybe he's right.

Speaker 7:
[07:36] Maybe we need alpha males who will beat the shit out of our enemies and alpha females who will mock their insecurities so precisely they'll never leave the house again. But what exactly will the alpha males and females do that others can't?

Speaker 12:
[07:49] What we need is alpha males and alpha females who are gonna rip out their own guts, eat them and ask for seconds. Those are young men and women that are gonna win wars.

Speaker 7:
[08:02] You want alpha males and females who eat their own ripped out guts? Maybe I don't know what war is. I mean, I guess it might freak out the enemy if they see the alpha soldiers pulling out their own stomachs and eating them, but that's only gonna work once. Also, not to be nitpicky, but if you eat your own guts, where do they go?

Speaker 4:
[08:32] For more on Hung Cao and his new leadership at the Navy, let's go live to Jordan Klepper in Arlington, Virginia.

Speaker 7:
[08:42] Jordan, was there no one else who could have filled the role that wasn't a Trump donor or insane extremist?

Speaker 13:
[08:48] Nope, back to you, Michael.

Speaker 7:
[08:49] But, come on, surely there was one person who was a little more qualified.

Speaker 13:
[08:55] You know, I've seen the entire list of candidates, Michael, and man afraid of witches was indeed their best option. You know, there were really only two types of candidates for this, donors or the loonies. I mean, all the more experienced candidates were hesitant about committing war crimes or holding Pete Hegseth's hair back after happy hour at Ruby Tuesdays.

Speaker 7:
[09:18] Okay. Well, then, who else were they considering?

Speaker 13:
[09:20] Well, for example, they looked closely at this guy. His name is John Trunk.

Speaker 7:
[09:26] Okay. And he served in the Navy?

Speaker 13:
[09:28] Well, not the Navy, per se, but he was patient zero on that cruise ship where everyone got dysentery.

Speaker 7:
[09:36] Does he have any military experience?

Speaker 13:
[09:38] It depends. Would you consider funneling crypto to Baron Trump's offshore bank accounts to be military experience?

Speaker 7:
[09:47] No.

Speaker 13:
[09:47] Then no, he does not have military experience. But if he doesn't float your boat, little maritime humor there, then the administration also considered Carson McDougal.

Speaker 7:
[09:58] Oh, okay. He looks like a sailor at least. Yes.

Speaker 13:
[10:01] He was the admiral of the January 6th amphibious fleet. They tried to storm the capital by sea, but failed to realize the reflecting pool is more of an inland pond.

Speaker 4:
[10:13] Okay. No. No, no, no.

Speaker 7:
[10:16] Go back to the Trump donors. Who else do we have?

Speaker 13:
[10:18] Sure. Trump also considered mega donor Steve Richman. That's him right there in the middle.

Speaker 7:
[10:24] Yeah. Jordan, I refuse to believe there wasn't a single candidate who wasn't a Trump crony or right-wing extremist.

Speaker 13:
[10:32] Well, I mean, there was one other in the mix. An expert at sea-based warfare, a strong negotiator with no ties to Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 7:
[10:41] Well, where have you been hiding this guy? He sounds perfect.

Speaker 13:
[10:43] Well, not a he. Michael, she. Her name is Ursula, and she's promised to put Iran's naval fleet under the sea.

Speaker 7:
[10:54] This is so stupid. I don't want Ursula the Sea Witch commanding the US. Navy.

Speaker 13:
[10:58] Oh, well, well, well. You don't like witches either, huh? Well, sounds like somebody's ready to board the USS Hung Cao.

Speaker 4:
[11:06] Fair point.

Speaker 7:
[11:07] Jordan Klepper, everyone.

Speaker 4:
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Speaker 4:
[12:29] Welcome back to The Daily Show.

Speaker 7:
[12:31] Yesterday was Earth Day. You might have spent it admiring nature or finally putting down that pathetic ficus in your bedroom window that's been whispering, kill me. But Donald Trump's relationship to the environment is a more complicated subject. For more, we turn to Desi Lydic in our ongoing segment, The Art of the Altercation.

Speaker 15:
[12:57] We all know Donald Trump has a long list of enemies. Iran, Democrats, the far left radicals known as the Catholic Church. But there's only one opponent that Trump hates so much that when he goes after them, he actually becomes them.

Speaker 7:
[13:13] You know, the windmills.

Speaker 11:
[13:13] Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 7:
[13:15] Windmills.

Speaker 11:
[13:17] Windmill.

Speaker 15:
[13:23] That's right. Whether it's a person from another country or an inanimate object, Trump will do the accent. And you might be saying, wait, Desi, aren't those wind turbines? Yes, they used to be, but Trump calls them windmills. So they're windmills now. You know, like how this is now the Gulf of America. This is the Trump Kennedy Center. And these are healthy ankles. And boy, oh boy, Trump has gone after these windmills with a vengeance.

Speaker 16:
[13:55] The president signed an executive order on his first day in office this term, bringing federal wind projects to a halt.

Speaker 8:
[14:02] There are windmills all over the place, and they are losers.

Speaker 15:
[14:10] Total losers. And you know what, while we're at it, hey, pinwheels, f*** right off, okay? You're not even that whimsical, you glittery b***hes. But keep in mind, all of that took place before the war with Iran. Trump's obviously got more important things to worry about than some silly windmills.

Speaker 17:
[14:32] During a global energy crisis and his war in Iran, the Trump administration is paying a French energy company nearly $1 billion of US taxpayer money to cancel its plans to build two offshore wind farms.

Speaker 15:
[14:47] How could you do that? In the middle of an energy crisis, windmills should be our backup plan. It's like I always say, windmills are the morning after pill of the Strait of Hormuz.

Speaker 17:
[15:00] I always say it.

Speaker 15:
[15:02] I do. I always say that right before the person next to me on the subway changes seats. And spending a billion of our tax dollars to stop a project is insane. If I want to pay a fortune to get nothing, I'll buy season tickets to the Mets.

Speaker 17:
[15:19] Oh!

Speaker 15:
[15:22] But also, oh. And he's hated windmills forever, ever since 2012, when they hurt the thing Trump loves the most. No, not that. Not that either. I'm talking about his golf courses.

Speaker 18:
[15:39] The focus of his outrage, a proposed wind farm off the coast, and an eyesight of Trump's Aberdeen golf course.

Speaker 8:
[15:46] It's one of the most serious problems that Scotland will have or has had. They're horrible-looking structures. They make noise.

Speaker 15:
[15:57] So you've said. But I'm not sure that windmills make noise was a very effective argument to Scotland. It's the bagpipe capital of the world. They love noise. Have you heard the Scottish version of the Headspace app? Almost fell asleep there. But Trump wasn't going down without a fight, and he took it all the way to the courts.

Speaker 13:
[16:31] You're in litigation. Who are you suing?

Speaker 8:
[16:33] We're suing, essentially, Scotland.

Speaker 2:
[16:34] Nobody sues a country.

Speaker 8:
[16:36] We are. We're suing a country. We're doing very well.

Speaker 2:
[16:38] Oh, shit!

Speaker 15:
[16:40] Nice knowing you, Scotland, because when Donald Trump goes to court, it always goes exactly the way he planned.

Speaker 19:
[16:47] In a unanimous judgment, the court rejects both challenges.

Speaker 15:
[16:58] Yes, the UK. Supreme Court said, We think this is f***ing stupid, and we wear these things to work. So, obviously, Trump moved on from this defeat with his usual grace and humility, by which I mean he held on to this grudge like it was a Nobel Prize made of boobs. And windmills went from being a nuisance to, I guess, the source of all the problems on planet Earth.

Speaker 8:
[17:24] If you're in sight of a windmill, watch the value of your house go down by 65%. They got these big, ugly suckers hanging down. They're all rusting and disgusting-looking. They are so unattractive. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? You just go. Take a look. A bird graveyard? And they say the noise causes cancer. It drives the whales frickin crazy. You know what it is? I want to be a whale psychiatrist.

Speaker 15:
[17:56] Whale psychiatrist might be the one job Trump would be worse at than president. I mean, he wouldn't listen, he'd fat shame them, and God knows what he tried to do to that blowhole. Don't picture it. So that's Trump's war on windmills, and right now, it feels like he's winning, which means that as the rest of the world embraces alternative forms of energy, America is falling behind. And if that makes you feel powerless and stressed out, remember, no matter what Trump is doing to the country, you always have the power to take a beat and center yourself.

Speaker 4:
[18:43] Thank you, Desi. When we come back, Ben McKenzie will be joining me on the show. Don't go away.

Speaker 20:
[18:54] K-pop demon hunters, Saja Boys Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle.

Speaker 14:
[19:04] So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

Speaker 2:
[19:08] It is an honor to share.

Speaker 20:
[19:10] No, it's our honor.

Speaker 21:
[19:11] It is our larger honor.

Speaker 17:
[19:13] No, really, stop.

Speaker 20:
[19:15] You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

Speaker 17:
[19:20] Ba-da-ba-ba-ba!

Speaker 14:
[19:22] And participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

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Speaker 4:
[19:56] The Daily Show.

Speaker 7:
[19:57] Our guest tonight is an actor, author and director of the new documentary, Everyone Is Lying to You for Money. Please welcome Ben McKenzie.

Speaker 3:
[20:19] What's that? That's how you enter.

Speaker 4:
[20:20] That's how you do it.

Speaker 7:
[20:23] That's how you enter a late-night show right there.

Speaker 4:
[20:26] You are... You guys excited for this movie? He's excited.

Speaker 7:
[20:32] You excited for this movie? Hell yeah.

Speaker 3:
[20:35] Cryptocurrency.

Speaker 23:
[20:36] Very exciting.

Speaker 7:
[20:37] You're pumped about it.

Speaker 23:
[20:38] Thank you.

Speaker 7:
[20:39] I don't mean this to be insulting. I actually don't know you from the OC, okay? And I know you from crypto.

Speaker 23:
[20:45] Wow.

Speaker 7:
[20:46] Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 23:
[20:46] I could kiss you right now.

Speaker 7:
[20:49] Great. Is that what we want? I mean, you know.

Speaker 23:
[20:52] I mean, look, people want to OC, Fantastic, Southland, which was a fairly good show. There's like two dudes in the audience super happy about that. Gotham. You know, look. Much like you, Michael, I contain multitudes.

Speaker 7:
[21:14] That's right.

Speaker 23:
[21:14] That's right.

Speaker 7:
[21:15] Why crypto? What struck a nerve for you on this? The movie is great. Your book is great. You really know what the shit you're talking about.

Speaker 23:
[21:23] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[21:24] Which I was like, whoa, this guy's not just an actor. He's got a brain on him. Why crypto?

Speaker 23:
[21:32] I have an undergraduate economics degree. It was the pandemic. I was bored as f**k. Can I say f**k?

Speaker 10:
[21:37] Yeah, do whatever you want.

Speaker 16:
[21:39] I was bored as f**k.

Speaker 23:
[21:41] A buddy of mine came to me and said, I should buy crypto. A lot of people have had this experience. My buddy has given me terrible financial advice before. And I was like, Dave, I'm not going to do this, but what is it? And he was like, it's a cryptocurrency. What is that? It's money, right?

Speaker 7:
[21:56] Right.

Speaker 23:
[21:57] So you can buy stuff with it. Uh, not quite. Not really. You know, and so I just got obsessed with it.

Speaker 7:
[22:05] I saw the session come on the movie. Man, your obsession comes through.

Speaker 4:
[22:09] Yeah. Yeah, I bet.

Speaker 7:
[22:10] No, I mean that. And like, I mean, you really dove in.

Speaker 23:
[22:13] I did. I did. And I was really frustrated originally by the celebrities selling it because, of course, like, if there's one thing that I knew, it was that Matt Damon doesn't know s*** all about blockchain.

Speaker 18:
[22:22] Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 23:
[22:26] No offense to Matt. Great actor. Probably not going to get cast in one of his movies now.

Speaker 7:
[22:30] That's okay.

Speaker 23:
[22:31] We all suffer.

Speaker 7:
[22:32] Well, I actually really, really, really, really appreciate you speaking up because you have a public's, you are a public figure. And to just sit around passively when you know something is wrong is bullshit. And I'm sure it maybe has cost you. I don't know. I mean, but you really believe that this is a scam.

Speaker 23:
[22:51] Yeah. And I mean, I think we all are, so many of us feel lack of agency.

Speaker 7:
[22:55] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[22:55] And we want to know what we can do.

Speaker 19:
[22:57] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[22:57] This is a weird thing for me to have done. But I do believe in it quite a lot.

Speaker 19:
[23:01] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[23:02] And what's wonderful is to get the response from not just you and not just the folks here, but like audiences. People are ready for this.

Speaker 7:
[23:10] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[23:11] They're tired of being told what's true and what's not true even. They're tired of being lied to for money, if you will.

Speaker 7:
[23:23] Right. Right.

Speaker 23:
[23:26] And they can't control us. We get to determine what kind of country we want to live in.

Speaker 7:
[23:31] I love that. You ready for a tough question?

Speaker 23:
[23:40] Let's hit me.

Speaker 7:
[23:41] What is money? Ah, love this question. You spell it out wonderfully in the book and in the documentary, but, I mean, isn't all of this a little bit bullshit? We're all just kind of agreeing on this paper?

Speaker 23:
[23:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah, so money's made up.

Speaker 7:
[23:56] Right.

Speaker 23:
[23:56] It's all made up. It's all fake. It's all real. So it's a social construct, just like government or religion. And it's only as strong as the social consensus that underlies it.

Speaker 7:
[24:06] Right.

Speaker 23:
[24:06] And obviously, at this moment in history, in America, the social consensus is quite fragile, which has given crypto, you know, quite a lot of room and latitude to sort of infect the public, if you will, or a small segment of it. But at the end of the day, it's all made up. Now, the distinction here between crypto and our money, our dollar, is that if money's made up, what is it? It's trust.

Speaker 7:
[24:30] Right.

Speaker 23:
[24:31] You take a dollar from me, not because you trust me, but because you trust that you can use that dollar for what you want to use. Crypto says we can replace all of that pesky human interaction with computer code. All you have to do is trust the code. Well, that's a lie. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of what money is and the social construct nature of it. To give you a specific example, Sam Bankman freed, now doing 25 years in jail.

Speaker 7:
[24:55] I mean, you sat down with him in maybe one of the more awkward documentary interviews I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 23:
[25:03] Wow. I appreciate that. That's my praise.

Speaker 7:
[25:05] Well, I mean, it was apparent that he thought it was going to be an easy, chill interview, and all of a sudden, he's talking to someone that knows some shit.

Speaker 23:
[25:14] Boom. Ryan Atwood f***ed that guy up.

Speaker 7:
[25:17] Exactly. Yeah. He's now 25 years in a federal prison for fraud.

Speaker 23:
[25:22] So how did he run his scam? He instructed one of his employees to change a single line of code, which allowed him to borrow his customer's assets. So I can't think of a more vivid illustration of the intellectual fallacy that you can trust code. Code does not fall from the sky. People write code.

Speaker 10:
[25:39] Right. Right.

Speaker 23:
[25:39] And in this case, he changed the code and he stole the money. So Bitcoin is full of lies. It's full of misinformation. It's full of lies. It's also full of criminals.

Speaker 13:
[25:49] Right.

Speaker 23:
[25:49] Jeffrey Epstein funded Bitcoin development in 2015 secretly via the MIT Media Lab.

Speaker 13:
[25:55] Right.

Speaker 23:
[25:55] He was a convicted sex offender. The guy who the New York Times thinks is Satoshi, Adam Back.

Speaker 13:
[26:02] Okay.

Speaker 23:
[26:03] His company Blockstream.

Speaker 7:
[26:04] Satoshi is kind of what started all this.

Speaker 23:
[26:06] Satoshi is like the mystical cult-like figure. Yeah, the Wizard of Oz. Exactly. Exactly. And so you peek behind the curtain and it's this guy. Well, New York Times thinks it might be Adam Back. Adam Back's company Blockstream received funding from Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 7:
[26:19] Wow. Okay.

Speaker 23:
[26:20] So Satoshi, potentially.

Speaker 7:
[26:22] Right.

Speaker 23:
[26:23] Getting funding from the world's most notorious pedophile. That's what we're talking about.

Speaker 7:
[26:28] I sold my Bitcoin after watching your documentary.

Speaker 23:
[26:32] Good for me.

Speaker 7:
[26:33] But I made some money.

Speaker 13:
[26:34] Great.

Speaker 7:
[26:35] Made some money. And also, before I bought it on Fidelity, I had to check all these boxes.

Speaker 13:
[26:42] Right.

Speaker 7:
[26:44] This is a high risk. I may not really know what's going on here.

Speaker 23:
[26:48] Are you sure you want to do this?

Speaker 7:
[26:49] Exactly. I mean, there was a lot of boxes to check. Yeah. So to push back on you a little bit is, I mean, I was aware that this was a high risk venture. I made a little bit of money. Good. Hey. But what's the say? Okay, there's criminals in this field. There's scammers. But people are going in knowingly. What's the big deal?

Speaker 23:
[27:12] They're not being treated properly under US law. The cryptocurrency industry does not want the cryptos to be treated as investments. My buddy Dave, who's putting money into it, hoping to make money off of it through no work of own. That's literally the definition of investment under American law. But the cryptocurrency industry doesn't want to be regulated, like securities, like investments, because of course, securities laws are predicated on disclosure. You need to know who you're giving your money to and what they're doing with the money. Crypto doesn't want that. I think that's very, very telling. So look, I am not arguing that people can't gamble on cryptocurrency. I'm not saying it should be outlawed. I am simply asking for it to be regulated properly. I'm also asking politely for the criminals to go to jail.

Speaker 3:
[27:51] Right.

Speaker 23:
[27:51] Well, yeah, and......including, including, including perhaps our president who has......who has benefited, who has benefited he and his family to the tune of billions of dollars in cryptocurrency. Right. Sorry, real money via cryptocurrency. In a year and a half.

Speaker 3:
[28:17] Wow.

Speaker 7:
[28:17] And, you know, you bring up the celebrities. What did they get paid in for these endorsements?

Speaker 23:
[28:22] You'll never, you'll never guess.

Speaker 7:
[28:24] You'll never guess.

Speaker 23:
[28:25] Yeah. They were paid in real dollars to convince you to take your Right, right, right. real dollars and turn them into something else.

Speaker 7:
[28:31] What? Why? Why? What? You know, you brought up boredom. And I think about boredom a little bit, too, with crypto. And some of that stems from COVID, possibly. We were sitting around. We were bored as hell. Whether you're making sourdough bread or sewing machines, bicycles, you know, we all didn't know what to do. But this was also a time that crypto really took off.

Speaker 23:
[28:49] Absolutely. You got a lot of young guys. So crypto is really a phenomenon amongst young guys.

Speaker 7:
[28:52] Why is that?

Speaker 23:
[28:54] Young guys are so that I was.

Speaker 7:
[28:56] Switching to gender now.

Speaker 23:
[28:57] Well, let's do it. I was once a young guy.

Speaker 20:
[29:00] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[29:01] And our our our prefrontal cortex are not are not developed. No, I mean, I'm I'm OK. This is yeah, it's science, you know.

Speaker 20:
[29:12] Yeah.

Speaker 23:
[29:13] And so young men have always had, let's say, a higher risk tolerance. Smoking more, drinking more, drinking and driving more, doing all sorts of stupid stuff. But right now, we're barraging them with ads telling them that not only should they, you know, they should engage in this. But if they don't, I mean, to paraphrase Matt Damon's ad, what are you, a pussy? Buy crypto. You know, so we're really, like, hammering them in a way that is exploitative. And young men and men in general are better marks than women because they have a sense of sort of, like, shame and pride. They don't like to talk about our feelings as much. And so it was really telling. I mean, in the movie, I interviewed many victims of a scam called Celsius.

Speaker 7:
[30:00] And it was one of the more moving parts of the film because you literally, in such a kind way, talked to these men who just lost a shitload of money.

Speaker 23:
[30:10] And I asked them at the end of the movie, do you still believe in crypto?

Speaker 7:
[30:13] Yeah, that blew me away.

Speaker 23:
[30:14] And some of them, well, all of them said yes.

Speaker 7:
[30:19] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23:
[30:21] So look, I say this with love. When people, so the industry, the crypto industry doesn't give a shit about its customers, right? They're perfectly willing. Otherwise, they would regulate it properly, right? So they're totally fine with these guys actually losing their money. They'll do a little performative like, wah, wah, wah, so sorry. DYOR, do your own research. It's your fault that you lost the money. That's like the neatest trick of crypto, the cruelest trick is to turn the blame back on the mark themselves. But I genuinely do care about these guys. And I genuinely want to protect them. And the industry is not protecting them.

Speaker 7:
[30:55] I really, really appreciate you. If more people who are public figures speak out, it just, it's helpful. And you know, men are so shitty at connecting with other men. And when you get swindled for money, that's even a worse time to connect with another man because you're embarrassed. Of course. So I just, I found that really powerful. What do you say to people who are still considering crypto or for the millions of Americans who are still in it?

Speaker 23:
[31:21] Sure. There's a movie playing in theaters.

Speaker 4:
[31:26] I knew it. Okay, the side see the movies, the side see the movies.

Speaker 7:
[31:36] How should they approach this gamble? Let's call it that.

Speaker 23:
[31:40] Only 5% to 6% of the population is really, really into crypto, if you look at the polling. There's another about 10% that are sort of playing around with it. If you're part of the 84% of the country that has never f***ed with crypto, congratulations.

Speaker 7:
[31:54] Right.

Speaker 4:
[31:55] Well, even those numbers are helpful, yeah.

Speaker 23:
[31:58] Yeah, we are the majority, and we made the movie for you to tell you that it's not you.

Speaker 7:
[32:06] Right.

Speaker 23:
[32:06] It's them. They're lying to you for money.

Speaker 7:
[32:08] Right.

Speaker 23:
[32:09] That's it.

Speaker 7:
[32:10] It's a perfect name for the film.

Speaker 23:
[32:11] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[32:11] Thank you for being here. Everyone Is Lying to You for Money is now playing in select theaters. Ben McKenzie. We'll be back right after this. Thank you, man.

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