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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Welcome, it is Verdict with Sen. Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. It's nice to have you on radio stations listening around the country. And Sen, I do love that I have the upper hand, the advantage tonight, and the level of energy at this show, because you just did like an all-nighter on a Voterama in the Senate. How much fun was that? I just wanna know, did y'all hang out, spend time together? Tell me how that went.

Speaker 2:
[00:26] Listen, Ben, I recognize that you're a young guy, and so your strength peters out after a while. But you gotta understand, when you were in the battle, a long battle, yes, we were on the Senate floor until 4 a.m. last night, we were doing Voterama. Now, what is Voterama? Voterama is what happens.

Speaker 1:
[00:45] The average age in the Senate is like 90, so how did that work?

Speaker 2:
[00:49] Yes, so I'm the teenager, they think I have acne. I mean, you gotta understand, it's all relative.

Speaker 1:
[00:56] Are you in charge of bringing the snacks? I'm just curious, did you order the late night pizza or did someone else?

Speaker 2:
[01:02] I'm the comedic relief, which tells you how much trouble we're in. But, so we were in reconciliation because it's the process that we're going to use to fund ICE and Customs and Border Patrol because the Democrats want to shut down our border permanently. And reconciliation is the major exception from the filibuster, which means we can do it with just Republicans. But when you do it, you do unlimited amendments. So you do it's called a Voterama. And so the Democrats kept us there till four in the morning, casting lots of stupid votes. And the votes are typically you hate children, you hate kittens, you hate puppies, you're against rainbows. I mean, I mean, all sorts of votes. And so they did that till four in the morning and then we were done. However, I am damn skippy and I can't help it if you think you know what, if you were here, we'd play hoops right now and I take it to the hole.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] I believe so. Here's my real question. When you guys are till four in the morning and these people that you work with are like eighties and nineties, do they sleep in their office and then like someone has to physically wake them up to walk them down to vote? How does it like, how do the logistics of this work? And do you guys still wear your coat and tie or is it like pajamas?

Speaker 2:
[02:18] No, no, it's all coat and tie. It varies. Some people stay on the floor. Some people stay in the cloak room. Some people stay. So there's a room one floor down from from where the Senate floor is called the inner sanctum. And it's senators only and you sit in there and you have like cheese and crackers and a glass of wine. And it's actually bipartisan. And so a good chunk of the night, like while you're waiting for votes to finish, you sit down there and talk and basically talk smack.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] So no card playing. I was kind of hoping for some like card playing. They wouldn't let you have a poker because that would have woken you up. I know you will.

Speaker 2:
[02:54] I am actually flying to Vegas this weekend. So as you know, every year we do a poker fundraiser. And this weekend is the poker fundraiser. We get a number of poker pros who come out and play. And it is a lot of fun. I like to play poker. And it is our poker fundraiser in Vegas two years ago was the birth of the Trump accounts. And so but we did not play poker on the Senate floor.

Speaker 1:
[03:22] All right, I got my money. I got my money against you this weekend. Just knowing the lack of sleep that you've had. I want to be clear. I'm going to leak that out to the pros out there. I think you're going to be one of the first ones out. Have to rebuy back in.

Speaker 2:
[03:34] So Ben, you're demonstrating exceptionally poor judgment. That leads me to ask, were you an investor in the Southern Poverty Law Center?

Speaker 1:
[03:42] Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. Which brings us to our story number one after I got to just, you know, how's that for a transition, big guy? That was a beautiful transition. Beautiful there. By the way, before we get to the Southern Poverty Law Center, want to say thank you and talk to you real quick about our awesome friends over at Rough Greens. If you've got a puppy, we've got a new one. You've got to check out Rough Greens and what they can do for your dog. After we saw what happened with our older dog, Memphis, we realized why wait until the dog's older? Why not give Rough Greens right now to little Bertie? And we know what it does. It supports long-term health by providing live bioavailable nutrients, including essential vitamins, minerals, probiotics, digestive enzymes, and omega oils. Now, the ingredients, they work together to improve nutrition absorption, also help Bertie maintain joint and muscle health as she grows, and enhance her overall vitality. Now, we care about Bertie's longevity. We've already lost two dogs, unfortunately, when they got older. And this is a way we can do everything we can to keep Bertie around as long as possible. Now, there are deficiencies found in processed dog food, but rough greens, it supplements your dog or your puppy's diet. With natural antioxidants and anti-inflammatory compounds that help reduce oxidative stress, support immune defense as well, and slow age-related decline. That's what we love the most. Now, it's easy. You're not buying new food. You just sprinkle it on the current food that your dog eats and bam, they love it. So whether you've got a puppy or an older dog, you need to check out and try rough greens. You will see a difference. Now, you don't have to change your dog's food. You just add rough greens. And I'm going to offer you a free Jumpstart Trial Bag. You just cover shipping. Use the discount code VERDICT to claim your free Jumpstart Trial Bag at ruffgreens.com. That's R-U-F-F, greens with an S ,.com, promo code VERDICT. So don't change your dog's food. Just add rough greens and watch the health benefits come alive. All right, Senator, so let's get into the Southern Poverty Law Center. It was, let's just be clear, a group that was supposed to stop the Ku Klux Klan, but instead, they decided to fund the Ku Klux Klan. That was just one of the many bigoted racist groups that they decided to actually raise money from people claiming we're trying to stop hate while actually funding the hate so they could then raise money off of the funding of the hate and get a return on their investment. It's like a Ponzi scheme. You can't make it up.

Speaker 2:
[06:28] This story is one of the most astonishing stories. So the Southern Poverty Law Center has made a business for decades, a business convincing people, convincing liberals, convincing American corporations, convincing just ordinary Americans that they're these vicious racist America that need to be fought. And their business, and understand, the Southern Poverty Law Center raised hundreds of millions of dollars to fight these racists. What happened this week, the Department of Justice indicted them, indicted them for money laundering. And the evidence, I could not have made this up. The Southern Poverty Law Center was funding the very bigots and racists that they claimed to be fighting. So for example, here's a story in The Daily Signal. The SPLC was paying the Ku Klux Klan DOJ indictment claims. The Southern Poverty Law Center has raised money for decades claiming to dismantle white supremacy. But it funneled millions of dollars. Let me repeat that, millions of dollars to white nationalist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, according to the federal indictment handed down Tuesday. The SPLC claims it was funding informants inside the extremist groups. While the SPLC, quote, purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred, acting Attorney General Todd Blanch said in a press conference, quote, The SPLC was not dismantling those groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose. Blanch highlighted one example from the indictment, where the SPLC paid a member of the leadership group that planned the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017. It is stunning. Liberals funding bigots in order to raise money to fight the bigotry of their funding.

Speaker 1:
[08:28] There was a lot in the indictment that came out, but there's one theme that Casper Tell made very clear as he was on Sean Hannity's show. He made it real simple what this is about and why they were indicted. Here is Casper Tell in his own words.

Speaker 3:
[08:43] Money doesn't lie. The charity that supposedly fought the Klan funded the Klan. The charity that supposedly fought neo-Nazis funded neo-Nazis. The Southern Poverty Law Center ran a methodical calculated scheme to defraud their donor base of $3 million and lied to them, and used an illicit banking structure system to create shell companies to hide their money and who it was being sent to specifically for the reason to sow discord and hate into our society. This is the ultimate definition of hypocrisy. And if you look at the indictment produced by the Department of Justice and the FBI, you will see that these banking institutions tie directly the funding mechanisms in which the Southern Poverty Law Center used to fund at least eight hate groups they supposedly wanted to take out, but they were paying the very villains of our society they supposedly wanted to protect us from. That's the ultimate hypocrisy.

Speaker 1:
[09:40] By the way, one of the things that I think is really interesting about this is that there were warning signs for like quite some time. John Stossel, back in January 16th of 2018, he did an expose on warning Americans about the Southern Poverty Law Center and how it used to have like in theory like a good theme. It used to be about, hey, we find hate groups and we name them and we expose them and we out them. And then it just turned into a radical left organization where Democrats could throw their money. And when they threw their money in there, it would just basically attack conservatives and anybody on the hit list, which turned into, by the way, Turning Point USA. It turned into Christian groups as well. Groups that they named individuals like Laura Ingram, for example, as one of those threats to America through the Southern Poverty Law Center. I mean, that's they were doing that back in 2016.

Speaker 2:
[10:38] Well, and look, it was not just liberals that were funding them. It was corporate America that they did an amazing job of extracting millions of dollars from giant corporations. And they'd say, look, we're going to fight hate, we're going to fight extremism. And they were rabidly partisan. They attacked conservatives. We knew that. But the latest piece of this indictment, I got to say a week ago, Ben, I don't know about you, did you have on your bingo card the Southern Poverty Law Center funding the KKK, funding the Nazis? No, no, like there's a level of cynicism.

Speaker 1:
[11:11] Yeah, yeah. And the donations are corporate donations, like Apple, Tim Cook, a million bucks, JPMorgan, a million bucks, JPMorgan, half a million, MGM Resorts, a million. Like they were, corporate America was giving money to them the same way they did to Black Lives Matter, for example. It was like, oh, this is just something we got to check a box. Yeah. What do you need? We'll write you the check. And they had unlimited funds coming in. And then they used it to, again, come after conservative and Christian organizations.

Speaker 2:
[11:42] And understand the charges here. The indictment charges the SPLC with six counts of wire fraud, aiming to obtain money via donations through materially false representation and omissions about what the donated funds will be used for. It charges the SPLC with four counts of false statements to a federally insured bank by creating accounts for fictitious entities to funnel the money. Finally, it charges the SPLC with one count of conspiracy to commit concealment of money laundering. The Justice Department indictment claims the SPLC directed more than $1 million to an affiliate of the National Alliance, more than $300,000 to an affiliate of the Aryan Nations, more than $270,000 to a member of the Unite the Right Valley in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, more than $140,000 to a former chairman of the National Alliance, more than $73,000 to a former Ku Klux Klan members, and more than $19,000 to the president of the American Front. This was shameless and it was massive. Cash Patel said the FBI's investigation revealed that the funds were used to facilitate the commission of further state and federal offenses, totaling more than $3 million. The magnitude of this, the depravity of this, it's staggering.

Speaker 1:
[13:16] I want to play Stossel. He did this again, January 16, 2018. He was warning the country about the Southern Poverty Law Center years ago saying they have lost their way, they are not what they say they are. Take a listen to him exposing him back in the day.

Speaker 4:
[13:35] There are dangerous hate groups in America who will warn us about them. The media have an answer.

Speaker 3:
[13:42] The Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 5:
[13:44] The Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 4:
[13:45] The Southern Poverty Law Center, based in that building in Alabama, calls itself the premier group monitoring hate groups. Looking at their map of such groups, you'd think America was consumed by hate. I once believed in the Center's mission. Well-meaning people still do. Apple just gave them a million dollars. But what donors don't know is that today the Center smears people who don't deserve to be smeared.

Speaker 6:
[14:13] The presence of radical Islam.

Speaker 4:
[14:15] This woman grew up in Somalia, suffered female genital mutilation, so now she speaks out against radical Islam. For that, the Center put her on its list.

Speaker 7:
[14:26] Multiculturalism failed these communities.

Speaker 4:
[14:28] This man was once an Islamic extremist. But then he decided radical Islam was wrong. And now he criticizes the radicals. The Center labels him an anti-Muslim extremist too.

Speaker 8:
[14:42] Join the fight against hate and bigotry.

Speaker 6:
[14:44] Visit splcenter.org.

Speaker 7:
[14:46] I do think that we have a problem with hate in this country.

Speaker 2:
[14:49] We put about ten of these major hate groups out of business.

Speaker 4:
[14:52] The Center's leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris Dees, would not talk to me, so commentator Nomiki Kant stepped up to defend them.

Speaker 9:
[15:00] They have a history, a long history, of fighting against extremists like the KKK.

Speaker 4:
[15:04] Years ago, Harper's Magazine reported that the Center is the wealthiest civil rights group in America, one that spent most of its time and money on a fundraising campaign. Now, Morris Dees did once promise to stop fundraising once his endowment hit $55 million. But when he reached $55 million, he changed that to $100 million, saying that would allow them to cease costly fundraising. But when they reached $100 million, they didn't stop today.

Speaker 5:
[15:35] They have an endowment that now is over $320 million, much of which is in offshore accounts, Caymans and places like that.

Speaker 4:
[15:43] How do you know?

Speaker 5:
[15:44] Oh, we look at their 990s.

Speaker 4:
[15:46] And it says, Cayman Islands?

Speaker 1:
[15:47] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[15:48] They pay some of their people more than $400,000 a year.

Speaker 1:
[15:51] Senator, we played that warning from Stossel. And this warning from John Stossel was very clear. Follow the money. And that was several years ago when he did that. Now we see where the money was going and who was being defrauded. Many of them were the donors. Do you think people may actually go to jail for some of this?

Speaker 2:
[16:11] Look, I hope that they do. They were lying. They were deliberately lying and taking the money and sending it to exactly the opposite thing they were claiming they were taking it for. You know, it's interesting. The Southern Poverty Law Center, their business model, was saying we're going to fight hate, we're going to fight racism. But they decided there wasn't enough hate and racism in the world, so they needed to pay millions of dollars to the Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan and other racist groups. They paid $270,000 to the Unite the Right rally. Remember, that was the rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Speaker 1:
[16:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:47] You had these young kind of Nazi-looking Aryan boys carrying tiki torches saying, the Jews will not replace us. And the media went crazy and blamed this all on President Trump. And if you remember, Joe Biden literally said, the reason that he ran for president was because of the Unite the Right rally.

Speaker 1:
[17:07] Yeah, because of that moment.

Speaker 2:
[17:09] And what is amazing is we now know that that rally was funded by leftists. And you might say, why? Why would these leftists ostensibly fighting hate be writing checks and paying the Nazis and the Klansmen? Let me just give you a couple of stats. What do you think the revenue for the Southern Poverty Law Center was in October of 2016?

Speaker 1:
[17:32] What was it? Because October 2016 was when Trump was running. So keep going on this.

Speaker 2:
[17:36] It was right before the Unite the Right rally. It was $51,871,438. So $51 million, that's real money. What do you think the revenue was one year later, October 2017?

Speaker 1:
[17:51] When Trump was president, what was it?

Speaker 2:
[17:54] After the Unite the Right rally, it went from $51 million to $133,463,398. It more than doubled. So it turns out the $270,000 that they sent to organize the Unite the Right rally, to put a bunch of racist bigots on TV, more than doubled their fundraising. There is a cynicism there. And you know what? It's not just cynicism. It's fraud, which is why they've been indicted.

Speaker 1:
[18:24] Let me ask you one last question on this. When groups like this get busted this way, I still think the left will defend and protect them at all costs. But is there any way that they actually could have broken so many laws that they could be forced to shut down and the Southern Poverty Law Center would cease to exist, or is that just wishful thinking?

Speaker 2:
[18:44] Look, I think there's a very real possibility. This indictment is serious. This evidence is serious. Now, there'll be a trial. We'll see what the evidence shows. But listen to this exchange between a reporter and Todd Blanch, the acting Attorney General, on what the allegations and what the evidence are.

Speaker 10:
[19:01] I just want to make sure I understand. You're alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue their operations? Is that...

Speaker 8:
[19:14] I'm not alleging it. The grand jury returned an indictment that says that. And so what the investigation found, according to the indictment that was returned today, is that they were paying... So Southern Poverty Law Center is raising money, asking folks to give them money to dismantle racism. And over a very long period of time, they were using some of the money they raised from donors to pay to... They called them field, you know, basically to informants, to... for information, for access, to just pay them for certain... to do certain things. And so, yes, that's exactly what the indictment charges.

Speaker 1:
[19:52] I love the ways like... that's not what I'm saying. That's what the indictment and the grand jury said here. Like, this seems to be overwhelming evidence for a long period of time. I noticed the words that he used there, the same words that Casper Tell used. This wasn't like a one-off. And this is, I think, what the media has tried to cover. It's like, well, it was just kind of like a one-time thing. This was not a one-time thing.

Speaker 2:
[20:13] It was over years.

Speaker 1:
[20:14] This was their entire business structure was, fund the people we say we hate, raise money off their hate when they go out there and we'll help them organize. We'll even help book their travel. We'll help book their hotel rooms. That was what was happening, for example, in Charlottesville.

Speaker 2:
[20:28] For years, for decades, this was going on. And understand, corporate America was responsible. You know how much Apple gave to the Southern Poverty Law Center?

Speaker 1:
[20:37] Yeah, how much?

Speaker 2:
[20:38] One million.

Speaker 1:
[20:39] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[20:41] JPMorgan, 500,000. That's a lot of money.

Speaker 1:
[20:43] That's a lot of informants, as they described it.

Speaker 2:
[20:46] And I got to say, you and I both have Apple phones. Did you know when you bought your Apple phone that you were funding the Ku Klux Klan? Did you know that you were funding the Nazis?

Speaker 1:
[20:54] Yeah, I did not.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] That's what we now know because and listen, do I think Tim Cook woke up and said, I want to fund the Nazis? No. I think he didn't care. I think he wanted a virtue signal. And the Southern Poverty Law Center appealed to his instincts of we're going to fight hate. And the cynicism of the grifters at the SPLC, we're going to take your money. But the problem was they found there wasn't enough racist hate to justify their fundraising. So let's pay people to be even worse.

Speaker 1:
[21:26] We need flashpoints.

Speaker 2:
[21:26] So then we can raise more money.

Speaker 1:
[21:29] Yeah. We need. And by the way, just...

Speaker 2:
[21:31] And that's called fraud.

Speaker 1:
[21:33] Yeah. Maybe I'm cynical. But like, when was the last time Apple bought an ad on a conservative station or a conservative radio show or a conservative podcast? When was the last time JPMorgan Chase did the same thing? My point with him is...

Speaker 2:
[21:44] Maybe never?

Speaker 1:
[21:45] Maybe never. Yeah. And that's the point here is like you and I have joked about this for years. What Democrats have at their disposal to fund their propaganda are the blue chip companies of Wall Street. None of them will touch a conservative show, broadcast, funding of a movie or anything like that. It's all done when the Reagan movie came out. Nobody in normal America would touch it. Yeah, great movie. No one would touch that because it was about Ronald Reagan, by the way, who's a very popular former president. You would think that Hollywood would get behind that because if I remember correctly, he was one of their own. He was an actor and he tried to root out communism in California back in the day. But they won't touch it. But by golly, they'll send it to the Southern Poverty Law Center as long as they name people like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA and any other conservative group as a hate group, which is what they've been doing over the last several years.

Speaker 2:
[22:41] Okay, don't forget Ben Carson and Charlie Kirk. As you know, Ben Carson is a famed white supremacist.

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Speaker 2:
[24:55] Well, I'm really excited about this. So in my 14 years in the Senate, I've written four books. This is my fifth book. Each of the books we've written have been New York Times bestsellers. This one is a book that I think really needed to be written. So a year and a half ago, I went to Clarence Thomas. I went to his chambers, and Justice Thomas and I have been friends for 30 years. And I sat down with him and I said, listen, I really would like to tell your story. I'd like to tell your story on a big stage. I'd like to get people to hear. Clarence Thomas, his journey is inspirational. He grew up in abject poverty. He grew up in Pinpoint, Georgia. He grew up not speaking standard English. And he came from nothing. He rose academically to Holy Cross, to Yale Law School. He rose to serve in the Reagan administration. He rose to serve as a Court of Appeals judge. He rose to serve as only the second African American Supreme Court Justice in history. And understand, Clarence Thomas had a journey where before he was a conservative, he was a left-wing radical. He was an angry black man. Those are the terms he used. He was involved in riots at Harvard when he was at Holy Cross and at Yale. He started off as a leftist, and then he realized the folly of his way. And as you noted, in 2028, Clarence Thomas will become the longest-serving Supreme Court Justice in the history of America. Now he wrote a fantastic…

Speaker 1:
[26:30] So cool, by the way. Fantastic, yes.

Speaker 2:
[26:33] He wrote a fantastic autobiography called My Grandfather's Son that describes how his grandfather raised him. And it's incredible, and I recommend it to everyone, but My Grandfather's Son ends when he's appointed to the Supreme Court. And so what I've attempted to do in this book is tell his story in a way to bring it alive to modern readers, but also to include his 30 years of Supreme Court decisions, and to include them in a way that are real, that make sense, that are understandable. You don't have to be a lawyer. But he has changed the entire course of constitutional law. He has fought for natural rights, for the God-given rights each and every one of us have. And the website is goingfurther.com, goingfurther.com. You can preorder the book on Amazon and Barnes and Noble, wherever you get your books. The book will come out in August, but go to goingfurther.com and order it now. And this book makes a fantastic gift for your kids, for your grandkids. Clarence Thomas, I believe, is an American hero, and we tell his story in the book Going Further.

Speaker 1:
[27:41] There was a very interesting flashpoint that happened that was under-reported or just not even touched. At UCLA, with a conservative speaker that was coming to the law school, and I want to be clear, I have no problem with protests on college campuses. I think it's great. That's outside. Disrupting and silencing a conservative speaker or a liberal speaker in the venue, that is completely different. UCLA did nothing to, in essence, stop this from happening, silencing a conservative speaker, and it's now gone viral on YouTube and on X, thank goodness, on social media. I want to get your reaction to this because it was pre-planned and UCLA, they didn't do enough to stop it at all.

Speaker 2:
[28:23] Well, listen, everyone has a right to protest. You have a right to speak. But what you don't have a right to do is engage in what's called the heckler's veto. You don't have a right to silence a speaker you disagree with, and that's what the left does. The left is terrified of opposing views. They do this frequently. So what happened, UCLA Law School invited a lawyer from the Department of Homeland Security to come talk. The Federalist Society at the law school did. And leftists came and deliberately disrupted the event and I got to say this reminded me of an event that happened a couple of years ago at Stanford Law School, another California law school, where Kyle Duncan, who was a federal appellate judge from the Fifth Circuit, spoke. And you had law students who screamed and yelled and said that they hoped that his daughters were raped. I mean it was really twisted. And I got to say, look, I'm a lawyer, I'm a law school graduate, I'm a member of the bar. Any lawyer, if you're a member of the bar, you're number one, have to pass a character and fitness test. And if you're in front of a judge, I got to tell you, if you're a lawyer and you scream and curse at the judge and say you hope that his daughter was raped, you will be held in contempt and go to jail. Like that is not compatible with actually being a lawyer. And so if you disagree with the views some speaker is saying, you can protest outside, you can express your own views, but you don't have the right to engage in shouting them down, attacking, silencing them, preventing others from listening to those messages. Now, I mentioned just a minute ago my brand new book, Going Further, The Incomparable Clarence Thomas. By the way, you can order that book at goingfurther.com, goingfurther.com. The book I wrote before that was entitled, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. And I mentioned that because when I talk about colleges and universities, I talk at length about what happened at Stanford, what happened at Stanford with this federal judge that was screamed and denounced by law students. Well, you know what happened? A couple of things happened. Number one, at Stanford when this happened, the administrator from Stanford Law School came in. Now, she could have said, all right, enough. You don't get to silence the speaker. You can express your own views, but you don't get to prevent the students from hearing the views of this federal judge. She didn't do that. Instead, she gave this long pre-written speech agreeing with the hecklers and protesters and attacking the judge and saying, the juice is not worth the squeeze. Now, amazingly, Stanford Law School fired her because of what she did there. And not only that, I wrote a letter. I wrote a letter to the Chief Justice of the Texas Supreme Court. I said, look, these are law students that want to be lawyers. Some of them maybe want to be lawyers in Texas. Part of being a lawyer is character and fitness, the ability to appear in a court and not scream and yell and curse at a judge. These law students have demonstrated they're unwilling to do so. And I called on the Texas Supreme Court to inquire of any graduates of Stanford Law School of the relevant time period. Did you participate in screaming and cursing and shouting down a federal judge? And if you did, we're not going to admit you as a member of the Texas Bar, because that's not how lawyers are allowed to behave in front of judges. And the Texas Supreme Court did exactly that. They said, because the law schools are not enforcing the rules, are not protecting free speech, we, the state of Texas, are going to do so. I gotta say, as I look at what happened at UCLA, that makes a lot of sense here. And I want you to listen. Listen to these students when the lawyer from the Department of Homeland Security began speaking.

Speaker 6:
[32:16] Today's speaker is brought to us by the UCLA chapter of the Federal Society. First of all, thank you for having me.

Speaker 7:
[32:47] Most of the time, anyone who is coming in immediately is going to get a certificate of claim for something. And they typically don't have to pass for it. So typically what happens is they will basically agree, the cartels will help them enter, and then they will get to their final destination, they'll be responsible to hang off the dead. I mean, so when you're in a situation where you're working.

Speaker 1:
[33:15] You look at this, and some of these that are up there, just so people on radio and listening on the podcast, they're holding up signs, some of these kids, after booing with F-bombs and other things in the face of this speaker. And these are not just random kids. These are people that are in law school.

Speaker 2:
[33:35] Well, and they're playing their phones, they're holding up their phones and making noises to shut down the speaker. So the noises you heard there, are they're holding up their phones, and they did this throughout the speech. And this is an example. If you disagree with the speaker, although I'll point out, they don't even know if they disagree with the speaker because they didn't actually listen to what he had to say. But if you disagree with the speaker.

Speaker 1:
[33:56] I wonder if the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying for part of this.

Speaker 2:
[33:59] You know, that's not a crazy question.

Speaker 1:
[34:02] I mean, seriously, this is the type of stuff they would sponsor and pay for.

Speaker 2:
[34:06] Look, the amazing thing about leftists is they're so angry, and they're not willing to actually confront substance. So, all right, let's say you're a UCLA liberal, and you don't like the Trump administration's immigration policy, okay. You could lay out your view of why you think you should have a different policy. But you don't see anyone there confronting, was 12 million people invading this country over the four years of Biden a good thing? Was the Biden administration releasing thousands of murderers and rapists and child molesters and drunk drivers and gang bangers a good thing? They don't address that because those are actual facts. Those are actual facts that resulted in Americans being murdered, being assaulted, and women being raped, and children being raped. They don't want to engage in that. I'm perfectly fine if these leftists want to go have a protest outside and say, we love open borders, invade our country, which sadly seems to be the view of the leftist. But they're not actually engaging in ideas. They're trying to use oppression. If you disagree with someone, respond with reason and logic. Don't respond with bullying and force, and essentially trying to stifle free speech. And where the hell was the administration of UCLA? Why was there no administrator there saying no? You don't get to shut this event down just because you disagree.

Speaker 1:
[35:40] Yeah, well it's probably because they had no problem with the people that were holding up the F-bomb signs in the classroom in law school at UCLA. I say it all the time, watch where you send your money and really watch where you're sending your kids to school because they will indoctrinate the hell out of them and they can turn into this. Don't forget, download Verdict with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts. We do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and the Senate and I will see you back here on this radio station next week as well.