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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to the Section 10 podcast. Here are your hosts, Jared Carrabis, Coley Mick, Steve Perrault, and Tyler Milliken.

Speaker 2:
[00:30] Okay, boom, Section 10 podcast, episode 612, presented by Kalshi. It is the home of your 9 and 16, last place, Boston Red Sox, brewed by Blue Moon.

Speaker 3:
[00:44] Sock, Suck One.

Speaker 2:
[00:47] Produced by Mikey Eamon and Jeremy 2K Bagzewski. Hey.

Speaker 3:
[00:52] What?

Speaker 2:
[00:55] Section 10 merch.com, patreon.com/section10podcast.

Speaker 3:
[01:00] Yeah, I think that covers it.

Speaker 2:
[01:01] All right, I'll do it. T, final thoughts?

Speaker 4:
[01:05] Ooh, Franklin Arias. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2:
[01:07] Jesus Christ, T.

Speaker 4:
[01:08] Sorry, he had another home run tonight.

Speaker 2:
[01:11] He did, yeah, he'll be a top 20 prospect, I'm hearing.

Speaker 4:
[01:16] I heard that on the baseball hour.

Speaker 2:
[01:17] Yeah, I heard that in the office before I went on the baseball hour.

Speaker 4:
[01:22] At least we have that.

Speaker 2:
[01:23] Yeah, all right. Steve.

Speaker 3:
[01:27] Yeah, section10merge.com, best merch on the planet. Obviously, the Patreon's buzzin, live game chats, get in there. Yeah, that's all I got.

Speaker 2:
[01:36] Mikey. I got nothing. Zuko.

Speaker 5:
[01:44] I just know we have five ad reads, so I'm excited to drop the ads in between every sentence.

Speaker 2:
[01:53] I did see someone complaining about that the other day, Teece. They were like, I'm sick of Jared interrupting Teece with ad reads, like the ad reads we tape after and then they're dropped in.

Speaker 4:
[02:06] You guys pick it purposely. You're like, everyone needs a break. Like Tyler looks like he's about to pass out. Let's just drop this one in here.

Speaker 2:
[02:12] Oh, oh, OK. So I get it. So like when we do tape them, I'll jokingly be like, ha, good one, Tee. Maybe they think that I'm actually interrupting him. But that's how we take big time.

Speaker 4:
[02:23] When you enter some of the reads, it is a little vicious at times.

Speaker 2:
[02:27] I guess. Yeah. I mean, I didn't realize that. Yeah. People think that I'm actually interrupting you and they're yeah. They're taped before the show and then dropped in. Yeah. I'm getting a little sick and Jared interrupted D like that. Well, shit, you know, fuck this team sucks, huh? I hate this terrible. Yeah. Like so I bet that, I mean, obviously we're probably going to have like a lot of Yankee hate watchers slash listeners that tune into this particular episode. I'm like. I already was kind of out on this team, and this just justified my feeling to to not like this team. I did pick them to win two out of three in the series, we'll say that. But I think the takeaway of being like, Louise Heal sucks. If they can't beat that guy, then it's real bad. He didn't give up a run. And I even looked at like the pitch metrics and everything. All of his shit was bad. Like his shit was down. He wasn't he was nothing special at all. And he diced them up in game one, game two, Max Freed. He, I know that he was scuffling like the last like three, four times out, whatever. But A, he's a lefty and the Red Sox do not have a lineup that can go up against lefties. And B, he's dominated the Red Sox since going to the Yankees. So that makes sense. And then I'm pretty sure we all had Cam Schlitler as a scheduled butt fucking in the finale. So the night one, I was a little surprised that they couldn't get something going against Louise Heal. But the rest of it, what was shocking about the way that this series played out? Nothing.

Speaker 4:
[04:12] The Max Reed was an auto loss. I don't think there was a single soul. And then when we found out Roman Anthony wasn't playing, it was like, all right, well, it's even worse than we imagined. And then you throw in Sedan Raffaella in the leadoff spot. It's like, man, this is the lineup you see on September 25th. It's spring training.

Speaker 2:
[04:26] Spring training.

Speaker 4:
[04:28] I just it I've never felt so defeated before first pitch before so early in the season. It really is like so depressing to watch.

Speaker 2:
[04:36] So depressing. Yeah. We we got to Fenway at like 11 a.m. on Tuesday. So we got to breathe in the full Red Sox, Yankees, pre-series vibes. And it was just like didn't feel like Red Sox, Yankees, you know, hanging around the dugout before the game. And it's like the only energy that got brought was me and Coley making fun of Kam Schlitler. That was it. Like that was and I was like, I got to get my licks in now because I'm not going to be able to say shit after the series. I don't know what Yankee fans are hoping to hear in regard. Like we're not like, oh man, I guess we were wrong about that. We all said it. We were like, this guy is going to fucking rock our shit on Thursday. So we better make fun of him while we can because we're not going to be able to say shit at the end of the series. No shocker. Yeah. You went out there and did exactly. He was, he went like eight. He went eight innings, two runs, but only one of them was earned. Didn't strike out a ton. It's like, oh yeah, nice shitty eight inning dominant performance. What do you want us to say?

Speaker 3:
[05:43] He said two eight innings starts in his life. They're both against the Red Sox. Yeah, that's sick.

Speaker 2:
[05:48] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[05:48] The Red Sox are a gift to every starting pitcher or reliever in the world. Do you want to throw eight pitches or less in an inning? Do you want to sit down within three minutes and you don't even have to break a sweat or do anything like that? This is the Red Sox team you want to be up against. Every single game there were at least two innings where you had sub 10 pitch innings. Like if I was just an organization with Pete Fatsy and just having those conversations, I'd be terrified if I was Pete Fatsy to even look at someone in the eye because that's simply just being lost. That's not working the count. That's not doing anything of quality. You're not even giving your own pitchers a breather. Like what an embarrassing place to be. And you do it every night.

Speaker 3:
[06:27] I will say, Jerry, you talk about the the Fenway atmosphere was there for I know you guys are there for game one was roaming around game one there for the finale. It's who had said it? I don't know if it was a reporter or not that it said like you're really just rooting for laundry. Somewhat it might have been Shaughnessy or something had said that back in the day. That's what it feels like with this Red Sox Yankee series we just watched. Like there's Red Sox laundry out there, but this isn't Red Sox Yankees. This isn't like a rivalry at all. This isn't anything to get excited about. You look at the green monster, it says Yankees Red Sox. So technically it is, but it's just not like that's not what you're watching. There was no energy. There was no buzz, especially for that first game. That was atrocious. I mean, the first two, at least in game three, there's a little bit of life, but the first two games you're just doing next to nothing. And the fact that they were one out away from being shut out at Fenway for the first time and back to back nights since 2002, when you're hearing years like 2002 that are coming up, that's how 24 years, I think T was basically born then. That's how long ago we're talking about for how bad this lineup has been and how lifeless they've been. And there was a line last series, I meant to mention on the last pod. What's his face? Benetti, right? The Tigers. He's incredible. He had a line that I thought was so spot on. I actually want to try it. Here it is. This was after the first inning of the school will start, I believe in game two. He goes swing and a miss, strike three and the Tigers lead in time of possession 18 to four. I'm like, you know what? That is applied for this entire Red Sox season. You could say that line so many times for the opposing team against the Red Sox. The time of possession is a bloodbath every single series. If you go up to P, you're missing all three at-baths. You would think that the Yankees got six straight outs in an inning. That's what it feels like watching this team.

Speaker 4:
[08:21] You know what's bad when Liu is talking himself through crisis. You can hear when Liu is trying to find something to hold on to or a reason to keep going or just an old baseball saying that gives you a reason to wake up the next day. Then you get to the seventh or eighth inning every night and Liu is just like, I don't know, man. I don't know what else I can really say here to feel better.

Speaker 3:
[08:44] I got nothing for you, Obey.

Speaker 4:
[08:46] Gabe O'Brien thrives off the negativity, so he starts just sitting in it and making it feel worse. But poor Liu, I give him so much credit because he gives me hope in those moments. It's just so hard to hold on.

Speaker 2:
[08:57] It's bad, dude. It's April 23rd. And I mean, say what you want. I'm sure, you know, like there's plenty of people are like, oh, you're just being negative and like it's still early. And I don't want to hear you celebrate when they're back in it in September. How are they how are they going to get back in it at any point? I don't understand. I don't want to be the guy ever. I've said this before on this show every year. There's a point where the Red Sox played really bad baseball. And then I'm like, man, this team doesn't have it. And I give up. And I don't think that they're going to be able to do this and that this year. And then it's like, you know, you have to remind yourself that it's a long season. Things can happen by the time you get to August, September. You think back on April and May, and it feels like an eternity ago. And there's just different chapters and eras within a season to where you just got to ride the wave and hope that water finds its level at some point. But I'm going to keep hammering home this point that I made on the last episode, which is we've had seasons where, like last year, I can't really make an assessment on what this team is until Roman Anthony gets called up and then we go. I can't in 2020, whatever it was, 21 maybe? Or, yeah, 2021. I don't know, we're not really going to know what this team is until Chris Sale comes up in the second half and then we go from there. There's no one coming to save this team. There's no one. Roman is on this team.

Speaker 4:
[10:33] The closest thing pitched tonight.

Speaker 2:
[10:35] Huh?

Speaker 4:
[10:35] Yeah. The closest thing pitched tonight.

Speaker 2:
[10:38] Yeah, and I don't mean that to be disrespectful to Toley, but mentally I already factor him in because he got called up last year. He was the jolt of energy last year, and yeah, he pitched tonight. He was fucking awesome. It was the most excited that I think I felt watching a Red Sox Baseball game this year before it all went to shit. But there's no one coming to save this team. I think the worst, the biggest gut punch that I think I felt was when I was like, everyone's healthy. This is the team and everyone's healthy. And all right, yeah, we'll talk about Roman's back and whatever, but yeah, before we dive into that, I just want to give a quick shout out to our sponsor, Kalshi, the largest prediction market in the United States. Kalshi allows you to trade and win real money on events like sports and entertainment. Let's make one thing clear. Kalshi is not a sports book on Kalshi. You are not playing against the house. You are trading head to head against other people. Kalshi just runs the marketplace. This makes Kalshi an exchange. That means that they do not profit when you lose. The lines are not set by them. Lines move based on where the money goes. Public opinion is what sets the line, not some algorithm that is working against you. And if you want to try it for yourself, Kalshi will give you $20 when you trade $20. If you use our promo code, which is Section 1010, when you sign up again, they're gonna give you $20 when you trade $20 on the Kalshi app, promo code Section 10 when you sign up. What a weird feeling, what a weird feeling to be in April and just kind of know that this is fucking it. Like, I don't, I guess, I don't know, I don't wanna speak for you guys, but I'm waiting on the firing, I'm waiting on the big change, I'm waiting on like a press conference from fucking John Henry or Sam Kennedy to be like, hey, this is not at all what we want, what we expect, what this is not acceptable. Something, something has to give because you as a business, I get it, people are gonna be like, oh, Jared, you gotta fucking organize a protest and this and that. I'm a podcaster, man, there's nothing I could do that's gonna force change. The team has to look at the product and say, this is not acceptable. And how many times have we had a conversation over the last half decade about whether or not John Henry still cares, whether or not Sam Kennedy is in the baseball business as much as the PGA business and the FSG and this and that. The focus needs to be on the baseball team. And if it's not, then they're just gonna look at the ticket sales and the concessions and be like, money's still coming in. The weather's about to warm up. Fenway is a tourist trap. The seats are still gonna be filled. And as long as it's profitable. Yeah, like what do we really care? You know, like how many seasons do we have to suck or be mediocre and still be profitable to really give a shit when this happens? I don't know, but it's not acceptable. I think that this is the earliest into a season I've ever been like, yep, like it's not happening. It's just not happening. And it's not because of, you know, how we have talked in the past about, you know, this is a continuation, a buildup of frustration. This is, you know, 2022, 2023, 2024. Like these teams were so mediocre and disappointing and you finally get back to the playoffs last year and you're trying to build off of that. And then this team fucking blows. So maybe there is a little bit of built up irritation, but not to the point where I think I'm jumping to a conclusion. We're all seeing it. We're all, everyone, if you're listening to this podcast right now, the way that the season has gone, the way that that series just went and you want to tune in to hear more about this fucking garbage team, then you're a sick fuck. You're a 162 guy, girl, gay, like all of us. So you're locked in, you know, deep down in your heart, this team doesn't have it, but for whatever fucked up genetic reason, you're still watching every game like we are and then tuning in to talk and listen about the fucking team like we are. It's a sickness, it is. We're not going anywhere. And I'm assuming if you're still with us right now, you're not going anywhere either. We're going down with the ship together. I just want to know what the fuck are the Red Sox gonna do about it? What is your plan? Because if it's too early, let's wait and see. Let's let it play out some more. What are you, what are you like waiting? What are you honestly waiting to see? What do you think is going to change? What do you think is going to happen that hasn't already shown itself to you in terms of production, star level, talent, ability to hit a baseball, a lineup against the lefty, ability to fucking run the bases, ability to know how to challenge with the ABS, ability to not make a fucking million errors, starters being able to pitch, bullpen being able to hold a fucking lead. What have you seen that makes you think, just wait, just wait, this is going to sort itself out. We love the team, love the roster. This is a fucking great group of guys. Just wait, wait for what? What are we waiting for? To fall even further away from a playoff spot, away from a 500 fucking record, nevermind a winning record. The idea of getting back to 500 right now. Last season, they had to win 10 straight fucking games to become relevant in the summer. We haven't even done an episode of Unobstructed Views yet and the season's over. We're gonna go in there and be like, hey guys, it's May. Imagine being like, it's May and we're already like two weeks past the point of saying that the season's dead. It's like, I'm gonna be sitting there on the couch with Alana Rizzo talking to Papelbon on a screen, be like, can't wait to watch the Sox tonight.

Speaker 3:
[16:51] Nope. That's bad. It's very bad, Jerry. I'm never gonna, and this isn't me being optimistic at all. I'm just never gonna allow a season to be confirmed dead in April. It's crazy. But that's the only thing I can point to. That's literally it. Just the date. It's not, it has nothing to do with the ingredients of the team. Has nothing to do with the baseball we've watched. Has literally nothing to do with that. Because every sign, everything you watch, every single night, is telling you this is one of the worst products you've ever watched in your entire life. And that spans whoever listens to this show. Mikey and I were looking at the analytics a couple weeks ago. There are people in their 60s, 70s, I think 80s that listen to the 10. Shout out to you, appreciate you. You've been watching this team your entire life. That goes way, way, way back. You tell me what's been a worse start than this. Like, I don't, I have no clue what's been worse than this. There's part of me that's like, was 2012 even this bad? I don't think it would. You got some on 2012?

Speaker 2:
[17:49] 2012 was at least entertaining because Bobby V was a lightning rod.

Speaker 3:
[17:53] It's some crazy every night.

Speaker 2:
[17:54] 2012 had David Ortiz, John Lester, Dustin Pedroit.

Speaker 3:
[17:59] You're forgetting the best part.

Speaker 4:
[18:00] You're forgetting the best part, Will Middlebrooks. Cody Ross was awesome, too. Will Middlebrooks, man, carried. Will Middlebrooks carried, bro.

Speaker 2:
[18:07] Yeah, in the beginning.

Speaker 4:
[18:09] Oh, yeah. April 2022 was a worse offensive month than this year so far. Isn't that insane?

Speaker 3:
[18:15] That's nuts. I could not say there's been worse months. And I'm like, how the hell of the worst offensive months in this year?

Speaker 4:
[18:20] Tio asked the question. 2022 March.

Speaker 3:
[18:23] He got shot down as he. I mean, Corey, I want to hear any questions.

Speaker 4:
[18:27] Isn't that insane?

Speaker 3:
[18:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:28] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[18:29] 22 is the worst.

Speaker 2:
[18:31] Offensive month in this year.

Speaker 3:
[18:32] So let's be honest, though. Like they've had some weird eight run games that are not real eight run. Get like seven, eight. And it's like, how the hell do they even score that? It's not like they're hitting bombs. TC was saying in the postgame, they've had one three run homer all year. That TS. 10 one. They've given up eight. So in the three run homer game, they're down 24 to one. Or I guess 24 to three. But it's it's embarrassing. 12 out of 25.

Speaker 4:
[18:56] You scored two runs or less. 12 out of 25. That's half of your game. You didn't have a back to back hit in the series. Like that's an insane thought to have.

Speaker 3:
[19:05] They scored three runs the whole fucking series.

Speaker 4:
[19:08] You got a free run. They gave you a run today. You can't even take that in the garbage time run you got in the ninth inning the night before. I'm not giving you that one either.

Speaker 3:
[19:14] No, that doesn't count either. No, it's you basically got like a solo shot from Cap. That's it.

Speaker 4:
[19:19] And I think that's where you start to have to question, right? These are where the firing conversations, the lineup shouldn't be this bad. As much as they are where they are right now and what they've looked like, there was not a single person who had them as a bottom five offense in the sport. Everyone on this podcast picked them as a playoff team. Nationally, they were picked as a playoff team. People were not saying they were not a playoff team. The rotation has underperformed greatly. Andrew Bailey took fucking two plus months last year to get the rotation on track. Right now, you're a bottom five offense. Who pays for that? Jared? Oh, it's a pinkie.

Speaker 2:
[19:50] I, my bold prediction was that they were going to be a top five offense in the American League. And I was mocked being like, way to go out on a limb. Like, obviously, they're going to be a top five offense.

Speaker 3:
[20:01] That is still early for that.

Speaker 2:
[20:03] This offense fucking sucks, Steve. Oh, right now, it's atrocious. This this offense has a chance to be a top three worst offense in Red Sox history.

Speaker 4:
[20:13] Right now, they would be at the bottom. They're the bottom everything. They're 29th in OPS.

Speaker 3:
[20:18] There's nothing good. You look at any of the stats, it's like at best, they're 26th at something.

Speaker 4:
[20:22] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[20:23] It's really bad.

Speaker 4:
[20:24] They're horrendous in general. And I think that's where, like, whether you want to talk, is, you know, Breslau going to step in and be like, Andrew Bailey, you're just not succeeding in what I'm giving you. You're not performing in that aspect. Like, you're supposed to kind of make my vision happen on the field. You need to be held responsible. I don't know. Is it Pete Fatsy where you're like, they just shouldn't be this bad. They shouldn't look this lost at the plate where, you know, you can go down to whatever statue like their 29th in zone swing percentage, 30th in meatball swing percentage. They're not swinging at shit inside of the zone. They're not even aggressive on the pitches. They should be swinging.

Speaker 2:
[20:56] They chase too much percentage.

Speaker 4:
[20:58] Yes, that just balls down the middle. That was balls down the dick. You always talk about they don't swing on your dick. There's no team in baseball that swings at less of those pitches than the Boston Red Sox, yet they like to go and chase all the time. They're hitting the ball into the ground. That's the second highest ground ball percentage.

Speaker 3:
[21:14] It was Earth Day, hit it into the Earth.

Speaker 4:
[21:16] These are the things, like with a baseball team, you start to question, like, you cannot get the ball, you can't lift it in the air. That's supposed to be one of the philosophies of the organization. There's spring training fucking, the signs on the walls there, quoting Ted Williams, hitting the ball hard and hitting it in the air. You're not succeeding in any of those aspects. You strike out too much. You don't walk enough. You're 30th in ISO. You're not good with runners in scoring position. There's so much there, and they're performing so greatly. The only thing they're doing decently right now is they're playing good defense. That's it.

Speaker 2:
[21:46] They booted up a fucking ball tonight. It was the first era in a while.

Speaker 4:
[21:50] Their defense, metrically, they're in a good place.

Speaker 2:
[21:53] Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 4:
[21:55] It doesn't matter if you can't hit. Let me ask you.

Speaker 2:
[21:57] Let me ask you this question then, T. Yep. Breaking news at midnight tonight, they fire Pete Fatsy. What does that fucking do for this team? Nothing.

Speaker 4:
[22:08] I would wonder, right? So you look at some of the guys that are on the staff right now and Dylan Lawson and John Sotteropoulos from Drive Line. You have guys down in the minors and a Johnny Rena, that are all Jared.

Speaker 2:
[22:22] I think Drive Line is not helping the situation. There's obviously been complaints, but then they're like, I've heard from former players within the organization who are now elsewhere that are like, things were great and then Drive Line showed up and then things were bad. So I mean, I don't, when people are asking me, because I started the fire a guy movement, I'm now kind of pivoting to like trade a guy. I think trade a guy helps more than fire a guy. But fire a guy to me means that the front office is like, we cannot continue down this path. We have to do something, show some change, show that we care, show that we're not just trying to be patient, whatever. So fire a guy. But when I look at it, who do you fire today that helps you be better tomorrow?

Speaker 4:
[23:23] Pete Fatsy isn't a driveline guy.

Speaker 2:
[23:25] I know that.

Speaker 4:
[23:26] So he's on the other end of that spectrum. And I think with what you're looking at right now, if there's maybe an issue with some of these younger players coming up and they're working with certain guys that get to them a place, and I'm not telling you driveline is a solution to all of that. I'm certainly not telling you that. But the best organizations in the sport are affiliated with them and have players going there and putting their work in. But we've heard there's been a disconnect about doing those little things in the big leagues. Can you teach the parts of the games while driveline focuses so much on bat speed and launch angle and these things? Can you do the things in a major league baseball game to win? Right now, Pete Fatsy being on the other end of that spectrum, he hasn't been able to get guys there. He just hasn't. Eventually, when you're underperforming to this level, someone is going to be the scapegoat. Do I think Pete Fatsy is a horrendous hitting coach? I think he's as mediocre as mediocre gets, but they're not getting the job done right now. Their approach, when you look at the metrics and you don't swing at pitches in the zone, that you simply just have a horrendous approach at the plate constantly, who do you assign that to? Someone has to hold that. Jared?

Speaker 2:
[24:31] How much do you know about driveline's involvement with the Red Sox organization, T? A good amount.

Speaker 4:
[24:36] I'd say what's out there publicly.

Speaker 2:
[24:40] Call it, six years ago, driveline, to me, as a baseball fan, was where pitchers would go to increase their velocity. Now, driveline works or is integrated into the boss in Red Sox and it's hitting related. Can you explain how that is and who is driveline employed by the Red Sox and what is driveline doing for the Red Sox that is such a drastic change that we're in this position right now?

Speaker 4:
[25:17] So it started during the High and Blue Marrow. That's when they started implementing Jason Ochart who came over. He was with the Phillies previously before he came to the Red Sox. He was kind of the guy who started the hitting philosophy over at driveline, started that entire version of them. We had always heard about the pitching, like you said, for so long. He joined the organization, I believe it was going into that 23 season before High and Blue ended up getting fired. He's been in the organization ever since and they've hired on both the pitching and hitting side, a number of driveline guys that have come in throughout the minor leagues are involved. And Kyle Bodie is on the pitching side. Yeah, he's the original founder. He came post Craig Breslow. He was a special advisor. They actually asked him to be the director of pitching before they gave it to Justin Willard. He turned it down because he wanted to continue to run driveline and continue to do his thing. And that's where they are today. He's a major part of this organization and they credit to him a lot of the stuff you saw on the position side when those prospects were coming up and developing and breaking out. And that was kind of their claim to fame at that, at least in terms of the Red Sox organization. And we saw them add a driveline guy to the staff. Dylan Lawson isn't a driveline guy, but he seemingly preaches a lot of those philosophies that we hear that come from them. He was with the Yankees. We remember him getting fired. Sean Casey coming in. Sean Casey didn't last, but it was essentially saying new school versus old school. You know, we went too far in one direction, then they went too far in the other. But yeah, that's the role he's held in this organization, where he's the Director of Hitting Development and Program Design.

Speaker 2:
[26:47] Is driveline an issue in your opinion on the hitting side?

Speaker 4:
[26:51] I'm not against it from a training aspect. I think focusing on bat speed and doing a lot of those things is important, but I think ever ending up on one end of the spectrum too far is dangerous too. I think you need to be somewhere in the middle where it's important to find a system that allows you to increase these traits, hit the ball harder, you know, find the proper angles, all these different things you need to do to become a better hitter and a better prospect. But you also need people that understand what you need to do to win a baseball game. And there's a balance, right? It's trying to find that somewhere in the middle. I think that's why Pete Fatsy's hung around is because he's been an ally to Alex Core is someone who kind of works on that other side. And so far this year, like I'm not seeing the adjustments, I'm not seeing the changes. I'm just not seeing an approach at the plate that makes a lot of sense. Like there's nothing what they're doing and going up there right now and not attacking pitches in the middle. What is the plan here? Like what is the strategy? It looks like these guys are going up and they have no idea what to do up there. And that to me is extremely concerning. And I'm not saying it's all on Pete Fatsy or he's the one who's responsible. I just think he's going to be the first guy to fall if they have to get rid of someone.

Speaker 2:
[27:57] But then I just kind of go back to like, how does that help, you know?

Speaker 4:
[28:01] And I don't, if there's a disconnect in the organization right now, or they feel like what they're doing, minor leagues is not transitioning to the big leagues. And maybe there's people that aren't able to bridge that gap. Then someone's going to have to be responsible for that.

Speaker 2:
[28:14] Sure. That's why I think it goes all the way up to the top.

Speaker 4:
[28:17] Because, of course, when I look at things, it all does.

Speaker 2:
[28:20] When I look at the Red Sox and their lineup and every day, I again, I've never been a complain about the lineup guy when it comes out. But the last couple of weeks here, the lineup comes out and I'm just like, you know, like it would be like in years past, if Devers and Bregman and whoever got a day off and you're just like, ah, like this is the not trying lineup. But that's the best lineup they have is the lineup where you're just like, oh, the guy, the guy that like I'm excited to maybe that maybe he's going to hit a three run home run tonight, or he's going to have two doubles in a home or whatever. Like they don't have that guy. And I know that there was a lot of hope. I still love William. I still believe in William. He's been ice cold for a while.

Speaker 4:
[29:10] He's had the ball hard, though, metrically. Like it's it's coming like Cora made a point of it on the radio today. He was like, look underneath the hood like he's hitting it. It's just it hasn't worked out.

Speaker 2:
[29:19] Yeah, like his like his last like five hits, like five singles or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[29:24] To me, watching him right now, like we've seen him go cold at times. He doesn't look to me lost at the plate. It just looks like it's kind of not fallen.

Speaker 2:
[29:32] Yeah. Either way, they don't have that guy. We'll get to it in the notes. But when we were there on Tuesday night, there was a point in the game, maybe in like the sixth or the seventh, it was it was still three nothing. And I was saying to Coley and Mikey, like, I was like, you know, that there used to be the illusion that, all right, it's three nothing. It's kind of getting late. But I mean, we're we're a walk base hit, Carver's three run home run away from tying this game. And it's a jolt of energy. And then the Fenway Magic, you get into the take it to extras bottom of the ninth and you walk this thing off. There's no one, there's no one that's doing that. There's no one that has that presence, not even the prep. Like there's just no one that's doing that. There's no one that is, yeah, they just, they don't hit home runs. They don't have pop. It's it's bad. Like we were talking about on baseball is dead this morning, you know, going over how bad the Phillies have been. And yeah, it's like, hey, like, you know, they've lost eight straight games and where do they rank in Major League Baseball and batting average and slugging percentage and on base percentage and home runs. And it was like, they were either just as bad or a little bit worse than the Red Sox. So yeah, you may not be losers of eight straight or, you know, when the, when the Mets had lost 12 straight, we did the same thing and they were in the same neighborhood as offensively as the Red Sox. It's like, okay, yeah, you haven't lost eight or 12 straight, but you've been bad enough to be that bad, I guess. So yeah, I don't know, I've always felt this way because I know people are, when are you going to talk about firing Cora and this and that? And it's like, I think Cora has done fine enough, you know, like with what he has, what the fuck? Oh, why, like Greg Weissert, fire Cora. It's like, what are the fuck, do you want to go to Chapman in the seventh? Like, what are we doing? We're going to manage this like Game 7 of the World Series? Like, what the did you want him to do? He's doing the best with what he's got. But again-

Speaker 3:
[31:43] The roster is the roster. It is what it is. I mean, you look at the lineup every night and it's like, what are they going to do? What do you expect them to do? I mean, you've said it all, Jared, but I was keeping track of like a game log, like a home run game log just for the team. So I'm like, I got to see how bad this really looks. And just going down through the last two weeks of games for the Red Sox, this is the home run game log. You got Narvaez today, none, none, none. That's not a last name. That's nobody, Jared. That means like no one hit a home run. It's not like we have a none on the team. Contreras, none, none, none. So they love the none, none, none, like three in a row, no dingers. They love that. Story, none, Duran, Contreras. So wow, three out of four games, home run. None, none, none, none, none. So basically the best you're going to get is probably like a solo bomb once every four games. Like that's kind of where we're at right now. And you're lucky if there's one guy on base. They've had three games this year, this blew my mind, where multiple guys hit a home run. It was within like the first week of the season. And you're thinking, okay, home runs aren't really going to be an issue. It's like Storia Brea went deep in the same game, Abreu and Roman in that pinch hit scenario. Obviously, WC 40 is on a lot of these. WC 40 and Marcelo way back when Marcelo wanted to go deep. It's, you just don't have guys that can get the big swing, like at all. And I got to ask you guys, and this jumping ahead, I don't care. When Fried was in there and they had second and third and no outs, what percentage of you thought they weren't going to score any runs? Because it was high for me. This isn't revisionist history. I'm like, I bet they get nothing here. I bet they don't get one run in this situation.

Speaker 2:
[33:18] I thought they were going to get one.

Speaker 4:
[33:20] But that was it. Caleb Durbin, the guy who you added to this team just to make contact, like he does two things, make contact and play defense. All three of those guys strike out on four pitches and IKF on the last one. The ball's in the frigging dirt, man. Like what are you even swinging at? And I understand he's probably not in the lineup if Roman's healthy, but please, like to have had to watch him against lefties for any portion of this year, he's legitimately a waste on this roster. There's no point of him being here. And with lefties, though, this is the problem. Because someone like Nate Eaton should have value to a roster like this without Romy Gonzalez. Someone who's supposed to handle lefties. No, instead you have a guy who can play a little defense. He can play a great, he plays a great second base. That's fucking awesome, man. That really goes so far. While I have Andrew Monasterio in the fifth spot DH-ing. That's great. That really makes me feel good.

Speaker 2:
[34:08] I think that was, that was who came to the plate in the situation that I was like, man, imagine if this was Devers. It was like Andrew Monasterio, two runners on. And then he just, yeah, I think he just like popped up to the infield.

Speaker 4:
[34:21] You just, there's so few guys right now that give you a quality at bat, that just go up there and they see five or six pitches.

Speaker 3:
[34:28] I was stunned tonight, Tee, when Abreu had like a nine pitch at bat. It's insane. What the hell is this?

Speaker 4:
[34:32] That's an inning.

Speaker 3:
[34:33] That's good ages.

Speaker 4:
[34:34] That's an inning for them right now, multiple times a night. Like this is not a every other night thing. I've never seen a Red Sox team have so many innings on a nightly basis that are less than 10 pitches. Like it gets to a certain point where it's like, how are you not adjusting? Like just tell them to fucking take a couple pitches and figure it out. But even when they are attacking pitches in the zone right now, they're hitting everything into the ground. Like there's nothing they do well offensively at all. They hit the ball hard, which are like, maybe that's where you go. You're like, oh, look at driveline. Well, if you can't optimize angles, none of it's fucking worth it. Like if you can't get the ball in the air hit line drives, and it doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 3:
[35:15] I know I've said this a lot in the past when the team's been going through bad stretches and it's kind of like a no shit thing to say, but the body language is atrocious.

Speaker 4:
[35:23] Horrendous.

Speaker 3:
[35:23] Like it's so, so bad. And that's the kind of stuff that becomes your culture where it's like showing up to the park every day is an obligation. It's not like, all right, here we go. We got our, you know, our home run, Selly. We got our double Selly. We all kind of vibe together. Like this is a unit. We're going as one entity. It's just a bunch of dudes that show up, have quick ABs, forgetful at bats. I've forgotten like a thousand at bats this year. I don't, I couldn't tell you like a handful of memorable ABs and they played in what? 26 games so far. Like you would at least assume that you'd have some big moments so far. Like the biggest one is Yoshida having a walk off. Like I said, last episode, hammering it into the earth. So you just don't, you don't have any fun watching this team. It doesn't look like they have any fun playing together. And the early thing and I, you know, we talked to a lot of people about the Sox. And it's like, well, the season is still early. It's like, all right, yeah, technically it is. It is still early. You can say that. That's not wrong. But again, look at the roster. Just look at how these guys are performing. And we said this before the season started. A lot of dudes, you could argue the majority of the lineup, we're going to have to have career years for you to have a really good season and get to where I was definitely too optimistic with my wins projection of 94. That was, I don't know what the fuck that was, but I got lost in the sauce there a little bit. But you look at right now, Jaren, who actually had a couple doubles, which seemed literally impossible for anybody to do. So that was like, he deserved the award or something. Exactly. It's like, oh my God, he actually did that. He's hit 197. State honor, Rafaela, cooled off a little bit, 257. Yoshida, 262. WC 40, 250. Abreu, 286. That's misleading. He's hit like 130 the last couple weeks. 186 for story, 203 for Meyer. Durbin's hit 141, which is way higher than I thought. That's how bad his season's been. And then Caps at 245, which is like, yeah, that's fine. You can live with that. But there's nobody in this lineup that's jumping out to you right now is like, yeah, this is who's going to help us. And the guy that is has a back injury apparently. And it's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4:
[37:28] He spoke about it.

Speaker 2:
[37:29] He's in 230.

Speaker 4:
[37:30] Yeah, he had been swinging it better though, recently.

Speaker 3:
[37:33] The OBP stuff, a little spurt, a little spurt. It wasn't really power.

Speaker 4:
[37:36] We have not got the power you need out of him. And that's a big part of it. He talked about it after the game. He's dealing with back spasms. He was hoping to play tomorrow. He goes, it just happened on a swing and I can't shake it. He's like, it's getting me right now. Narvaez did make a pretty a pretty firm point on the it's early talk after the game. We've been saying, I know it's early, but we cannot have that mentality. OK, it's time to go. We got to flush it. Of course, it doesn't feel right, but we got to flush it. We got six important games on the road. We cannot be stuck in the mindset like, OK, yeah, we got to be better. No, of course, we know we got to be better. We're work on it. We work every single game every single day. And it's just about that time. OK? The same time we're grinding. The most important thing is the next three games and then the next three games. That's got to be the focus right now. Big difference between that and Jaren Durand, who was saying it was early the previous night before. Like everyone's desperate.

Speaker 3:
[38:25] I didn't hate the Jaren line. I actually thought he had some solid quotes.

Speaker 2:
[38:29] Yeah, like that's exactly what I was gonna talk about. So the Jaren Durand quotes from last night after the second game, I didn't have any issue with what he said. I think if there were a counter to what he said, the quotes that I saw were him saying, it's not like we're not working hard. People don't see the inside of the room. People don't see the work that goes on behind the scenes. Like we're working really hard. I don't think that anyone is sitting here being like, these guys are slacking off. They're not working hard. I don't think that it's an effort issue. It is simply a talent issue. I don't think this team is good enough to...

Speaker 3:
[39:06] There's a lot of underperforming going on.

Speaker 2:
[39:08] A ton of underperforming, but then there's a lot of just like, this is what it is.

Speaker 4:
[39:12] You think there are bottom two offense in the league?

Speaker 3:
[39:14] It's not gonna be like this all season. It's not.

Speaker 4:
[39:16] Nobody thought that. Like if there's a single person who had that take, we may have said, 15th, they're gonna be league average, or maybe they'll be bottom 10 in home runs. There's not a single person who thought they would be this bad.

Speaker 2:
[39:26] I said not a single top five offense.

Speaker 4:
[39:28] That's just it.

Speaker 2:
[39:29] But that was in mind being like, Roman's gonna have a big year, Williard's gonna have a big year.

Speaker 3:
[39:35] We also got bamboozled by the WBC. We gotta factor that in as well. Like these predictions were made after the WBC. I am not part of that.

Speaker 2:
[39:42] We talked about how Duran, not being in the outfield every day and DH-ing was gonna rejuvenate him, and he's gonna have more energy to hit for more power and swipe more bags. And people were just like, yeah, TS-10, he did it last year. He's gonna do it again this year. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[40:01] I just, I liked what Jaren said, and he doesn't do a ton of postgame tee. I feel like I don't see him doing clubhouse postgame that often. I was even trying to just look back at past ones.

Speaker 4:
[40:09] He's like a second tier list of guys. I feel like they get brought in.

Speaker 3:
[40:13] Yeah. But even just over the last couple of years, like I feel like they don't have them do postgame too often. But no, he had mentioned that he, you know, putting a lot of pressure on ourselves. I think that we're just trying to do too much. We're trying to dig ourselves out of a hole. But at the end of the day, I mean, we're not really in a hole. It's still early. I think he still said the right stuff, though, where it's like, we know we can play good baseball. It's we're pressing. We're putting too much pressure on ourselves. We want to produce for the fans. It was quasi refreshing to hear it because, like, everyone's got an opinion about Jared, obviously. But they were lines that other guys weren't saying. Like it's he's talking about how much it sucks that they can't deliver and like, oh, you know, you guys should work harder and all that. It's like, okay, at least, at least these things are being acknowledged. It just sucks that we have to like, dig this far down to the barrel to be like, well, the quotes are good. Like, this is great. They really, they're working hard. So at least that's good. So it's like the silver lining blows, but at least, you know, you're hearing stuff from these guys where they can tell that they're pressing and they got to get better.

Speaker 4:
[41:11] To see what Durand did, Durand made a real change. He went, the stance is back to 2023. He's toe tapping, the hands are in a different place. He was selling out for power. We know that's what it was. He's gotten a little pull happy at times, but I think the WBC probably fed into that a little bit, where you're seeing the home runs, you're seeing the results. And he'll probably go back when he starts swinging it really well, because that's how he gets the extra base power. Who made the change for him? Because we know he's a tweaker. That's who he is. Durand is crazy. He shows up with a different stance every couple of weeks, right? But when you start talking about guys last year and who helped guys get on track? Alex Bregman with Trevor Story when he was at his very low, when the Red Sox said, dude, go take a day off. We don't have an answer for you. Roman Anthony in Philadelphia last year, who did he credit? It was Alex Bregman at that time. In terms of making adjustments and doing different things at the plate to fix yourself, who are the people fixing things? Who are the guys getting people on track?

Speaker 3:
[42:08] T, if we're talking about that, it's like firing fats he could make a difference because it should be your freaking hitting coach that's making the difference, not your starting third baseman. I do get that there's a lot of times, and Petey obviously had this as well. I remember E Rod was fixing guys' swings.

Speaker 4:
[42:21] 100%.

Speaker 3:
[42:22] But it's, you go down the roster and there's a lot of guys that you're going to lean on, or maybe a small handful of guys that you're going to lean on, and then there's other dudes. It's like, I don't need to take any advice from that guy. But you want your core to be the hitting coach. You want the guy every day that's looking at the film with you to be his job to do that, not your all-star starting third baseman or preserve or whatever. So it just fucking sucks. I mean, if that's the reason why Roman's had this bad a start, I think that's just an excuse. I was looking this up because last year, he would start games great, not just like in the leadoff position, leading off games. He was really, really good. He had 320 with a 930 OPS. This year leading off games, he's hitting 095. It's two for 21, no walks, three total bases and eight strikeouts. So, use the back thing or whatever. It's, the Roman stretch right now has just been really, really bad. And it sucks because there's two conversations to have. It's, yes, they've put too much on this guy's back. Of course, he needs to carry the team the whole thing. He's 21, yada, yada. That's great. But he is and should be as good a talent as a lot of people are saying he is. So, you have to hold him accountable when he sucks like this, while also acknowledging they've put too much on his plate. Those can both be happening at the same time. And that's where we're at.

Speaker 4:
[43:37] It's also like, go look at his savant page. Like the results, it looks good, man. It's not bad. He can get into these stretches where he's a little too passive or he hits the ball into the ground. I'm not worried about him. I think the results are going to be there as long as he's healthy. Now, that's the bigger question to me right now, because he had a back issue last year. It's been something that's barked in the past. If he can't stay healthy, we would have all told you before opening day, Roman Anthony can't be Roman Anthony, your season's over with. I don't know what you're going to do. Good fucking luck to you, right? Like that stuff is going to be kind of at the forefront of everything. I just think at this point in time once Roman's healthy, and I know Cora said it the other day, that and he kind of changed his position. When we used to hear the Raffaello at second base stuff during camp, no, we're not doing that. No, he changed it to we're not doing that right now. Well, how much will it take for you to have to do that? Because Saddam Raffaello has made improvements at the plate. We talked about the chase rate last episode. If Durand starts to look the way he does in both of these last two games, he needs to play every day. You need to do whatever you can to have the best line up out there. So eventually, Craig Breslau is going to have to swallow his pride and admit he took an L somewhere. Whether it's going to be, oh, the logjam, he's already taken the L on that front. Let's be real. Is it not trading Marcel Amire and you end up sending him down to triple A? Is it saying, oh, Caleb Durban is not what we thought he was going to be. We're going to move Marcel to play there every day or maybe just using them in a platoon. And Durban handled lefties about the same as he did righties last year. The results haven't been great this year, but Durban ain't hitting shit in general. That's just the reality. And he's another one of those guys. And to me, he's someone where you look at it. And maybe the driveline influence has gone too far for him. He's trying to pull everything in the air. And now he's not able to be the player he was in Milwaukee. And this is where we're talking. Consistent message being somewhere on a consistent philosophy and pathway, somewhere in the middle that everyone can resonate with. Because we have Cotillo floating out. Carlos Delgado is a potential hire. Bring him in, someone who's worked with a lot of young players, but someone who would bring maybe an older school mindset that Cora can kind of connect with. I don't know, it just feels like there's a real disconnect about what they're doing. And maybe it is driveline being the issue within itself. But we've seen the guy, we've seen Shohei Otani go there, and Mookie Betts, we've seen some of the best players. It's a skill, it can't be the only thing you do. There's a middle ground to all of it. It feels like they don't know where that middle ground is right now. And players are flailing, and I don't know, something has to change. I don't know what it's going to be, but it's just not great in watching guys go up to the plate with no plan every single night. I can't watch it. It's an embarrassing thing to have as an organization. It's just simply, they don't know what they're doing when they walk up there.

Speaker 3:
[46:21] And they're not up there for that long.

Speaker 4:
[46:23] No, and like, that's it. It'd be one thing if there was an approach, something clearly they're doing, it's not, it just looks like they're guessing from the moment they walk up. You can't slow the advance down.

Speaker 3:
[46:35] Jerry, I gotta pick both y'alls brain on something. Okay. It's, it's got to do with Kalshi. Okay. Currently, Kalshi users are forecasting the Boston Red Sox to finish with 80 wins this season. Yeah. And if we're being exact, it is 79.8. For those keeping track at home, went, yes, 100% losing record. For those keeping track at home at the start of the season, it was 91 wins. And now it is down to 79 wins and change. We'll round up to 80 to be nice. We shouldn't be nice because this team has made us furious. Do you think that is a fair projection for this trash team, who by the way, is on pace to go 54 and 108? If you're listening right now and thinking, why do those numbers sound familiar? It's the exact opposite record of the 2018 Boston Red Sox. And that's what it feels like. The exact opposite excitement as the 2018 Red Sox is the 2026 Red Sox. So 80 wins. Thoughts on that because even me as the ever optimist is starting to get a little worried about even getting to 500 at any point.

Speaker 4:
[47:44] There right now, the lowest they ever were last year was five games under 500. You're seven games right now. We talk about being two and eight and how scary that shit was. It's worse than that.

Speaker 3:
[47:56] I never thought how much I was going to miss the whole 500 Sox thing. Shout out to the Pot on Lansdowne guys with the honey come back to 500 thing. I was like, okay, okay, okay. This is happening a lot and it's not even their fault. It's more just like, come on Sox. Like, can we get better than 500? I now miss that. That's how bad this team is. Like, we're craving just an even record.

Speaker 4:
[48:15] You're getting to a point where another bad week like this, something that resembles this, like, what are you going to be 12 and 20, 12 and 21? Like, you're so far in that hole. And that's why a couple of episodes, like, people don't acknowledge that 10 game winning streak enough last year and what it meant for you at that time. And there was a reason we hadn't seen it since 2018. Just not something you're going to get every single year. And even last year's team had some of the weirdest hot and cold stretches, six game losing streaks multiple times. Like, I just, I question whether you have the guys in that clubhouse, you have the veteran experience that are going to be able to get guys over the hump. And I think you're seeing it carry on the rotation right now. Those guys are pitching like they know they have to be perfect. And that's not a great thing either, beyond the obvious underperforming that's going on in general. It just looks like such an entire team that's just so overwhelmed, feels like they're drowning. And Alex Cora made a point on radio today talking about, without Alex Bregman, he needs to be in the video room more, and he needs to do all this stuff, and just be around more, and kind of be more involved in everything. And I just think that's such an ugly place to be for a team that's supposed to be chasing a World Series. If this clubhouse needs you to be that involved, then you're not a World Series caliber team. Your team's not built like that to make a run like that, and they seemingly are comfortable operating in that fashion, and it's just, it's not going to get the job done.

Speaker 3:
[49:36] It feels like they show up to the park trailing, like they're already losing by the time they get to Fenway Park.

Speaker 4:
[49:41] The swerve is bombed. It was over. Like, everyone, the game was done.

Speaker 3:
[49:46] I know I tweeted the joke out of MLB said, it's okay, you can forfeit now. They've never overcome a three-run deficit. Like, that game was over. They hadn't even gone to the plate yet, and they're down three-nothing. You're not winning that game at all. It's honestly like, in the video game, when you change it, no, I can play in varsity. Like, I can go up to the max level here. I'm going to be good, and you're just immediately down six-nothing in the second. That's just what it is for this team. Every single game, it's like they're in quicksand. And they also have that looking over your shoulder thing of like, who's fucking up tonight? Like, who's it going to be? Is someone going to boot a ball? Is someone going to strike out with the bases loaded? Are three straight dudes going to strike out with second and third and no outs, and we get nothing out of it? Like, I don't get any kind of vibe from any of these dudes that they're about to go on some kind of run. These losing streaks are all created differently. Like, there's bad teams, and then there's teams like this, where it's not unlucky, it's not like, oh, it just wasn't our night, and if we had one thing go differently. It's a combination of a million little things that consistently go against the team, like the Red Sox, that doesn't seem ready to play. Like every single night. And to T's point, the starters mentally, I think they're going to get drained because they got to show up like, all right, honey, head into the ball yard. I'm going to have to throw seven shut or else we have no chance to win. That's kind of what it feels like. But everything else is good.

Speaker 4:
[51:11] Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 3:
[51:12] The notebook, we got to do the notebook.

Speaker 4:
[51:15] We can slide it just for the pitchers.

Speaker 3:
[51:17] I almost don't want to do it.

Speaker 4:
[51:19] Dude, 29th in OPS, tied for last in homers, 27th in batting errors, 26th in OBP, 30th in slug, 29th in zone swing. I already gave you the meatball. I won't give it again. 19th in chase, 78 WRC plus, tied for the worst in sport, 26th in runs, 20th in K percentage, 20th in walk percentage, 30th in ISO. Like genuinely, you do nothing well.

Speaker 3:
[51:42] I got a Caleb Durbin update, and I was kind of rooting for this. Back to last place in Major League Baseball in OPS 181st, Caleb Durbin.

Speaker 4:
[51:51] No barrels to be found.

Speaker 3:
[51:52] There you go. If you need a ground ball or a strikeout, this is your guy. Trash. I'm sure he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2:
[52:02] All right, time for the notebook.

Speaker 3:
[52:04] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[52:05] Yeah, you can just fly through this, honestly. I mean, we've pretty much we've talked about a lot of this. All right. So the first the first game was on April 21st against the New York Yankees. Watching the Yankees take BP in the field before the game was such a harsh reminder that the Red Sox don't have stars at all in this team. Will Fleming and I were standing there watching Aaron Judge take BP and we were just like, we don't have a guy like that.

Speaker 3:
[52:32] Like we know most teams don't.

Speaker 2:
[52:33] But yeah, most teams don't have an Aaron Judge. But like just seeing like guys like Stanton go in there and just whack balls around.

Speaker 3:
[52:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:44] Yeah. If the Red Sox can't be beat up on Louise Hill, I might officially be out of this team. He's so bad. He did pitch, what, like six and a third shut innings or something like that?

Speaker 4:
[52:55] Longest start since May 2024. Great.

Speaker 2:
[52:59] Connolly Early just gave up a bomb to John Carlos Stanton. I wonder how much different life would be if he ended up here instead of JD Martinez. Well, nothing Yankees in the top of the second.

Speaker 4:
[53:11] I want to be a Red Sox fan.

Speaker 2:
[53:12] Wilson Gutierrez does things at first base that I'm not even sure Tristan Casas is aware that you can do with the position defensively.

Speaker 4:
[53:20] Or Bobby Dalbeck.

Speaker 3:
[53:28] That was a quick toss. I didn't know he was gonna get that.

Speaker 2:
[53:30] This is their intolerance policy for talking shit about Bob in the show.

Speaker 3:
[53:33] Okay, I didn't know if it was gonna be a one for one there, because you did dig at Cassis.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] People wanted the old suspension theme music back, so we just took out all the ad-libs, and we're gonna keep putting them in the bathroom, and then you're gonna get the suspension music. So, I mean, there's some time...

Speaker 3:
[53:54] I like this a lot.

Speaker 2:
[53:54] Yeah, sometimes you're going to get people bitching and moaning and I'm just going to completely ignore you or continue to just do the thing that makes you mad. Or I'll be like, all right, constructive criticism and we're open to that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not against constructive criticism.

Speaker 3:
[54:09] Of course, T.

Speaker 4:
[54:10] Bobby Delbeck, negative 11 DRS in his career at first base and negative six out of...

Speaker 2:
[54:17] I said a zero. Do you know what zero tolerance policy means, T? You don't know what that means?

Speaker 3:
[54:39] It's going full old school here, letting it play out.

Speaker 2:
[54:47] Yeah, so I don't want to say anything. I'm gonna do that thing where I say the thing, but I'm not gonna say the thing. I've been texting the last two nights with, let's just say a very prominent Red Sox figure who is fucking furious about what's going on.

Speaker 3:
[55:08] Very upset, yep.

Speaker 2:
[55:09] Very upset. But let's just say not currently employed by the Red Sox, but like a very prominent.

Speaker 3:
[55:17] A big deal, a big deal.

Speaker 2:
[55:19] Yeah, very prominent name in Red Sox culture who is fucking pissed. Pissed, always very funny when I see this name pop up.

Speaker 3:
[55:30] That might be putting it lightly. I'm just saying that might be putting it lightly.

Speaker 2:
[55:33] What about him being that pissed?

Speaker 3:
[55:35] Being pissed. Oh, he's even like, he's very pissed off.

Speaker 2:
[55:39] Yeah. Yeah. But just always like a very funny moment when I see the name pop up on my phone, I'm like, there's no way. That's one that I'll never get used to. I'll never get used to.

Speaker 3:
[55:55] No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[55:56] There's a couple of those. There's a couple of those. This is for sure one of them.

Speaker 3:
[56:00] I can see that.

Speaker 2:
[56:02] Pissed.

Speaker 3:
[56:03] Pissed.

Speaker 2:
[56:07] I don't know if Stanton makes it to the Hall of Fame, but he's the first ballot Hall of Famer if he plays his whole career at Fenway to run double three, nothing Yankees in the sixth Connolly early. Ninety two pitches, fifty three strikes, five and a third innings, five hits, three runs, three walks, four K's gave up the homerun to Stanton to eighty eight. Erat what was going on with Connolly early?

Speaker 4:
[56:27] Yeah, I thought he was really good until the sixth inning, which they had to push him because on Marathon Monday, they emptied the entire bullpen. It was everyone but Jack Anderson that day, right? So you needed the length and to his credit, outside of Stanton, everything was flowing for him. But you got into that final sixth inning and all of a sudden, he entered it with sixty eight pitches. It wasn't like this was a guy at eighty five that was barely holding on. Four pitch walk to Ahmed Rosario, Aaron Judge walked after being up oh two. You get Ben Rice and then you pay for it. And then he walked Bellinger right before he got pulled. So right now we're talking with Connolly early. His FIP was insane last year and you start looking at a lot of the metrics. He was awesome because he was missing so many bats and he walked so few. He's rocking a four point six walk per nine right now. That's pretty damn high for a guy like him and it's something he's just not going to be able to do regularly and be the pitcher he needs to be. And that's not to say this was a bad start because Alex Core said it after the game. He was really good until that last inning. But we've seen when he tires or he's kind of running out of gas, those walks start to tick up and that's a real problem for him. Yeah, he just got to clean it up and the homer he gave up in this start, second straight start giving one up, had never given up a homer before the last two starts. So now that's something I'd kind of keep an eye on. But yeah, not a lot of different stuff with his overall arsenal. 30 percent foreseam or 28 percent on the sinker, 24 percent on the change, 7 percent sweeper, 7 percent slider, 4 percent curveball. And he had nine whiffs total with the change of getting the most. So to me, I think it's the consistent thing with him. Control, set, slash command, kind of going out the window when he's at the end of a start or trying to work deep.

Speaker 2:
[58:05] Unbelievable catch by, say, Don Raffaella, but who the fuck cares when you're never going to score any runs?

Speaker 3:
[58:11] Yeah, what was up with that? See the catch problem. That's bullshit. No way.

Speaker 4:
[58:15] I know. I was kind of shocked by it, too. I love just tweeting it because it just blows up every single time on these catches. I am curious and I'm not going to act like I'm an expert on it because I haven't done the deepest of dives on the calculations and how it all goes with walls and stuff like that. But it feels to me like that wall was not properly accounted for in those calculations. I understand the bad read, like we talked about the catch earlier in the season and how that bleeds through. A hundred percent can see that. But man, the way he had to jump up and deal with the wall in that spot, it feels like you deserve more credit for that.

Speaker 3:
[58:52] I love seeing that in the replies too, like, oh, there's no way they factor the wall in. I'm like, what the hell is the point of catch probability if you don't factor the frigging wall in? Like that's part of making the catch. You have to go full speed and slam into a wall because that's where it is. It's not like it's just open space for infinity and beyond. I couldn't believe that. I thought you were goofing or something. This isn't a T type of joke.

Speaker 4:
[59:15] I was just waiting for it in the morning. Every Raffaella catch, like that is the first thing I said on Savant. It's the most fucking annoying thing in the world, their fielding chart, because you got to click on every fucking dot, every catch he's made that year to find the exact one. It is such a horrendous system.

Speaker 3:
[59:31] Do you like this system or it's pretty bad?

Speaker 4:
[59:33] It makes me want to die.

Speaker 3:
[59:35] Oh, okay. Yeah, it reminded me of a Griffey catch, one of the more famous ones. I think he might have messed his leg up in that catch, but it's just full extension right into the wall. And that's kind of what we had said a couple of weeks ago. It's like, Sedan's going to start making these. And he has. That's what he does out there. And now you got to put him at second base.

Speaker 2:
[59:55] Yeah, I'm not a big catch probability guy. I know Dallas Brayden is certainly not a catch probability guy. I think he got into a fight on Twitter with the guy who developed the statistic. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[60:08] And he like he debates, man, like he really is passionate about it.

Speaker 2:
[60:13] Yeah. Any time the Red Sox fall behind by four more runs, it feels like folding and poker just not necessary to continue the charade after that point for nothing Yankees in the eighth. I don't think that there was a single point during the entirety of this game that I felt like the Red Sox were going to win. Red Sox lose for nothing, dropped to nine and 14.

Speaker 3:
[60:32] A question for you, fellas. What the hell was Caballero doing? I couldn't really tell at the park, but he was kind of being a dickhead all night, if I'm not mistaken. You wanted him to be drilled, I saw. I wanted him to be plunked, 100 percent, because it was a little excessive. Whatever he was doing was excessive. Was he trying to not look at the pitcher, so he only had a certain amount of seconds to look at him?

Speaker 4:
[60:50] The whole thing is he looks up the second you're required to, which I believe is exactly at eight seconds, but you're trying to do it to the point where the pitcher causes himself to have a violation, by not being ready to go, by not locking eyes. So he waits till the last second. At that moment, the pitcher's usually sitting there, he's seeing him set up, he's gonna take a minute, but by playing that game, you can draw the violation in those spots. And that's, he did it twice against Jack Anderson. Who, credit to him, didn't flinch. Like he got out of it, which was incredible with the bases loaded.

Speaker 3:
[61:20] Yeah, because it went what, to 0-1 to 2-1, if I'm not mistaken? I mean, that immediately changed that situation, the bases loaded spot. Yeah, that was trash, that was garbage. I think a different version of the Red Sox 100% plunks him there, like a way pre-ABS version of the Sox. He gets drilled in that situation. The other part of it that I hated, he did multiple things that were obnoxious. You're putting the bat down, doing like the take the leg guard thing off, when for a pitch that was a strike, I think that happened twice, where they were both strikes. You don't get the right to do that and show up the ump when you have challenges left. Just challenge the pitch. You can't be like a dickhead to the ump and be like, are you serious? Challenge it, dude. Like if you really wanna make a whole stink about it, then tap your helmet. Like I thought that was garbage and honestly was hoping he'd get plunked, but that doesn't really happen anymore.

Speaker 2:
[62:08] You didn't even mention the thing that pissed you off the most about him.

Speaker 3:
[62:13] What? What?

Speaker 2:
[62:14] English isn't his first language.

Speaker 3:
[62:16] Oh, get the out. Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[62:18] Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that, Steve. You know what I mean? It's a little crazy.

Speaker 3:
[62:24] Yeah, just a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[62:25] It's a little crazy. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm going to be indulging in some blue moons this weekend. Actually, I was indulging in some blue moons during the middle game. I don't know if you did. You see that tweet?

Speaker 3:
[62:35] Yeah. Blue moon, right? Singular.

Speaker 2:
[62:38] Well, in the picture is one blue moon.

Speaker 3:
[62:40] OK, I saw you said blue moon in a nice night, though. Yeah, no, definitely. I mean, these were all blue moon kind of nights just to kind of chill, you know.

Speaker 2:
[62:48] Yeah, I had a blue moon and a chocolate Easter bunny. Yeah. What a combo, by the way.

Speaker 3:
[62:55] Yeah, I had never thought about it. But then when you tweeted it out, I was like, this seems pretty great, actually.

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Speaker 3:
[63:32] Watch this Sox team. And you want to have a little alcoholic drink.

Speaker 2:
[63:36] Yeah, that's it. That's it. We're all adults here.

Speaker 3:
[63:39] Yeah.

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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
[64:44] Yeah. What's yours?

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
[64:51] Nonstop.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
[66:46] The middle game here, April 22nd versus the Yankees. This one, this is one sad ass line up. In this series, I had a lot of like pre-pitch being thrown notes. Like I just like started fucking taking notes before the game was even played. I was just stewing.

Speaker 3:
[67:07] It's probably most of the notes. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[67:10] Cora said before the game, I'm just trying anything, man. Like genuinely, like, I don't know, man. Maybe Sedan in that lead off spot. We're about to cook with some shit.

Speaker 3:
[67:18] I swear he's got a dartboard in his office where he's like, let's just throw it. All right. Who's hitting second tonight? Let me throw a dart at this thing and see who we got. That's what it felt like for a while.

Speaker 4:
[67:26] I want to add on that Raffaella front. In 2018, it says they started working with the wall on catch probability. I have a better explanation next episode, but it seems pretty questionable because I saw a lot of heavy analytics people debating how the wall works and why it doesn't reflect perfectly in those calculations.

Speaker 3:
[67:43] I make you frustrated.

Speaker 2:
[67:45] Stanton doubles to put judge at third. First thought I had was that the Yankees had Judge Stanton and Juan Soto in there. Oh, yeah. OK. So this was this was second and third. Yeah. Stanton doubles to put judge at third. So it's second and third with Judge and Stanton out there. The first thought I had was that the Yankees had Judge Stanton and Juan Soto in their line up and still couldn't win a World Series. That's more embarrassing than what the Red Sox offense has been to start this season. I agree with that take.

Speaker 3:
[68:15] You agree with your own take? Yeah, I agree. It says here, yeah, whatever's here. I think that's a great take, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[68:20] Let me run that take back for Coley. So we're on the game notes, the middle game, and it's only the second line of game two. Stanton doubled to put Stanton at second and Judge at third. And I said, the first thought I had was that the Yankees had Judge Stanton and one Soto in their lineup and still couldn't win a World Series. That's more embarrassing than what the Red Sox offense has been to start this season.

Speaker 3:
[68:50] And he agreed with that.

Speaker 2:
[68:52] I agree with that take.

Speaker 5:
[68:53] More embarrassing is tough. They at least made the World Series. It's not like they were dog shit.

Speaker 2:
[68:58] They were a non-competitive participant in the World Series.

Speaker 5:
[69:02] Agreed with that and that was the weakest I've seen the AL like prior to this year.

Speaker 2:
[69:06] They got a bye to the World Series, so you can't even be like...

Speaker 5:
[69:09] Yeah, they played only Central teams. They played only and like I said, when we built this roster, they beat AL Central teams, which is what Craig has built here. And they just came in and swept them.

Speaker 2:
[69:22] So you agree with the take or no?

Speaker 5:
[69:25] I agree it's embarrassing. This is worse. This is much worse. This is untoward. This is unbecoming. No, I agree more people should be talking about it because it is viewed as just judge and Soto. But Stanton was backpacking as he normally does in the playoffs. But not even that. In the playoffs, he's the guy who shows up, not judgey. So it was more a Stanton and Soto production.

Speaker 2:
[69:51] Correct. Yeah, so I agree with that take, then mine. Yeah. Three run home run.

Speaker 5:
[70:00] I like the energy behind it.

Speaker 3:
[70:03] Yeah, it's going in the right direction. It definitely has the right stuff to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:08] Three run home run for Ahmed Rosario. That's the game. I am dead serious. Yeah. Three nothing Yankees in the first inning. We I was still at the sports hub with Mazz and he hit the home run as we were walking out of the studio. Like we weren't even done with the baseball hour yet. He hit the home run. And both of us were just like, all right, gotta gotta fucking try not to get swept tomorrow. I guess that's so pathetic that we're not even joking. It's just.

Speaker 3:
[70:37] And it wasn't even like seven o'clock yet. It wasn't even like normal first pitch time yet. It's like, okay, that'll do it. I'll see you, Tom. Take it easy. Yeah, that's where it's at. Oh, and 11 when trailing by three plus runs. This team.

Speaker 2:
[70:50] Oh, and 11 when when they when a team gets a three run lead. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3:
[71:00] I would train, say that.

Speaker 2:
[71:03] You know. She was not a fan. She saw the clip, the section 10.

Speaker 3:
[71:11] The clip is hilarious.

Speaker 2:
[71:13] She was like, that's not how I sound. She's like, I don't fucking sound like that, Jared.

Speaker 3:
[71:18] I don't fucking say that to to.

Speaker 2:
[71:21] That's fuck, dude. Yeah, she. She don't know.

Speaker 3:
[71:25] That was great. Great job by Bones.

Speaker 2:
[71:28] Shout him out. Double off the wall for Jared ran off Max Freed. I'll take it. I'd be furious if I were him about the outfield rotation. So. That's more of like a larger conversation topic that I think we've probably already said or we've had. But how? How are you going to be like, we're keeping this guy because he's a nine-war player, and he's cheap, and we're going to market him and put him out there and be like, we're going to embrace him, and then you're going to shop me, but not trade me unless it's for a frontline, ace caliber starting pitcher, and then immediately go into the season and treat me like I'm a platoon bat, part-timer, I can only hit against righties, and yeah, like I'm a DH some days, I'm not in there at all other days, just have no consistency to my playing time, and not even like really be a true platoon bat because he's in the lineup against Max Fried. So it's like, am I, should I only be preparing to hit against righties, and then I'll have this random, go get him against one of the best fucking lefties in the game, but then I'm going to DH, but then I'm going to have the day off. I would be pretty pissed, I think, if I were Duran. Anyways, I digress.

Speaker 4:
[72:51] He was given those keys to start the year, but they're so desperate for offense, and they never accounted for Yoshida being one of their best bats. They thought they were going to hide Yoshida on the bench, and he was just going to sit there and play once a week, maybe. Then they got to the point where they had no chance to survive offensively. He was the only guy giving them actual professional at bats, and now they have this, the log jam got worse. But that's the problem. The fact that they went away from him and were so quickly ready to jump out, it just, your evaluation of the player and your handling, it's so off, it's so weird, and it's just things they just didn't care to consider when they put this entire team together. They didn't think it was that big of a deal, and it's clearly a major deal in not knowing the players that you have on your roster and how they will react to certain things.

Speaker 2:
[73:39] The Red Sox team OPS would be higher if they had any of their relief pitchers hit in place of Caleb Durbin since the season started. I don't even think that's crazy to say. I agree with that take.

Speaker 3:
[73:53] You agree with that?

Speaker 2:
[73:53] Yep. Anyone disagree?

Speaker 3:
[73:57] No, he sucks.

Speaker 5:
[73:58] Do you see the tweet I sent during tonight's game? Not to jump ahead, but we're talking the home run Derby.

Speaker 2:
[74:04] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[74:06] I said, if we can name the polls after Fisk and Pesky, I don't see why we can't name the dirt in front of the plate after Derby.

Speaker 3:
[74:13] Derby dirt?

Speaker 4:
[74:14] The whole team can do that at this point.

Speaker 5:
[74:16] But A, he's already down there. And B, like, anytime he swings, when it's up in the air, I'm like, well, that was stupid, because you can't hit it that far, you idiot. So it's always a pop-up, very shallow. And then the rest of the time, yeah, it's just right into the dirt in front of the plate.

Speaker 3:
[74:32] It's really, really bad.

Speaker 2:
[74:33] Is anyone out on Durban? I'm not. I'm just waiting for him to heat up. But like, it's obviously been very frustrating to start to heat up.

Speaker 4:
[74:40] But that's where, like, the disconnect is, because they're trying to turn him into a player he's not, and he's lost his identity in the process. So now you have to make a hard decision. Are you going to move Saddam Rafael at a second pace, and then go and say, Meier and Durbin, you go Platoon, or one of them goes AAA. Pick your poise and whatever L Craig Breslau wants to take on his forehead. It's an L either way for you and your evaluation. But that's the only way to put your best offensive lineup out right now. That's it, and you're that desperate. And they've avoided it. They avoided it for months, and they've completely put themselves in this position. And now I think Core is starting to bend the knee, but how much time are you going to give it?

Speaker 3:
[75:18] I don't think he could look much worse. I was looking at high leverage situations heading into the finale. He's hitting 0.67. That's good for one hit in those situations. He just can't be trusted in a big spot. To Coley's point, he's just hammering it into the ground all the time. Like, it's just constant. And not even hammering it. He's lightly hitting it into the ground. I would like if he was hammering it, because maybe then it's a Yoshida thing where it goes over the infield, but comes up with two outs a lot, never does anything, runner's in scoring position, never does anything, worst OPS in baseball, and he's so small. And that's not his fault, he's a small dude, but it feels like it takes everything out of him just to make contact, it's like everything. And I applaud him for that one challenge, by the way, because I'm like, all right, somebody challenged it, they were right, that's great. Of course he then balanced it out by being wrong about three seconds later, but I'm talking baby steps here at this point. And then obviously in the infield, it takes all of his effort just to get to a ball. There was a ball in the finale, not jumping ahead, whatever, and jumping ahead where I think Meyer gets that. It's everything that could go wrong has gone wrong for him at this point. And I know Jerry mentioned a couple weeks ago, this isn't going to be the same type of situation for him if he was doing it in Milwaukee. There'd be a lot more of a leash and people wouldn't be like booing him every time he comes up. When they announced him in the finale tonight, I didn't hear one person cheer. Like everyone was getting cheer. I didn't hear one person clap for Caleb Durbin. And normally you have people that just feel bad and clap. He's not even getting that right now.

Speaker 2:
[76:47] That's got to be such a lonely thing.

Speaker 5:
[76:49] He can't be a double challenge guy like that. That can't ever really, I don't care how right he is. And obviously he wasn't right the second time, but he, I just can't risk that. Like I just can't have it at all.

Speaker 3:
[77:01] That is the chart they should have. I know we've talked about the chart of who can challenge. Like it's definitely, you can't double. Like, well, I have guys, if you're doing two, we can actually sit you for a week, which might make it seem better.

Speaker 5:
[77:10] If it's like strike three to end the game, sure.

Speaker 3:
[77:13] Sure.

Speaker 5:
[77:14] Go for it. It doesn't matter. But outside of that, like, no. And then like today, I was just thinking the vibes were high. Not dropping ahead. The vibes were high. Even this goes to this point too. Like I think he's just the fireman. Like anytime things are getting too hot, he's just right there to just put it out. He's just putting the fire right out. Like he's the worst vibes ever. And I'm sure he's a nice guy, but in terms of like every time he shows up, it couldn't be at a worse time.

Speaker 3:
[77:41] The second he starts, Kayla, oh no. Like the second like C-A-L comes out of the P-A guys' mouth, I'm like. I'm like Mikey, I'm media, fuck.

Speaker 2:
[77:52] I feel bad for him. I'm like a human.

Speaker 3:
[77:54] No, it's not like we don't feel bad, it's just like he sucks.

Speaker 4:
[77:56] And not his.

Speaker 2:
[77:57] Young kid, new team, big market. Trying it, second year in the league.

Speaker 3:
[78:04] Sucks.

Speaker 2:
[78:05] Yeah, it's not going well, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[78:08] He's a better player than this, though. Like that's I would hope. Shrinking part.

Speaker 2:
[78:12] Yes, he is. Red Sox fans don't care what you do for other teams.

Speaker 5:
[78:17] Yeah, no. Would you take him over my Droth right now, T?

Speaker 4:
[78:23] Don't do me with chase my Droth like that.

Speaker 5:
[78:26] I got killed for this when he when it happened in real time. So that's that's why I'm asking.

Speaker 4:
[78:33] How's my Droth been to start the year? Let me get a peek.

Speaker 5:
[78:36] As of yesterday, because I posted. The same thing.

Speaker 4:
[78:41] He's been better defensively, but Durbin's played a good. He's played good defensively this year. I know there's been a couple of weird moments, but metrically, he grades out whatever stat you want to pick. It's well above average.

Speaker 5:
[78:52] As of yesterday, my Droth had a hundred OPS plus, right on the money average. Caleb Durbin, 38.

Speaker 4:
[79:03] Yeah, he's like a 682. Like, I think they're the same player. Yeah, I think they're essentially the same player. I'll give my Droth credit. He's a little younger, so he has that edge to him.

Speaker 5:
[79:15] He's two years younger.

Speaker 4:
[79:16] Yeah. So like you can kind of cling to that and he can fake it at shortstop, which I think goes a long way to. Yeah, they're about the same player to me. If Chase Mydroth was playing third base, people would be just as miserable, so that's it. I don't disagree with that, but I think over 162, it looks extremely similar. I think they're the same.

Speaker 5:
[79:37] That was my whole point when it happened. It's like you've just traded more or less Rafael Devers for Chase Mydroth. People are like Durbin's way better. Come on. He's not.

Speaker 4:
[79:44] Yeah, way better. That's a lot.

Speaker 2:
[79:48] The Red Sox just had second and third with nobody out and struck out three straight times. They are an absolute portfolio of assholes.

Speaker 5:
[79:59] Good take.

Speaker 3:
[80:00] That's I agree with that one, too. Do you agree with that one?

Speaker 5:
[80:03] That's a good thing.

Speaker 2:
[80:03] Yes. Yep.

Speaker 3:
[80:05] OK.

Speaker 2:
[80:05] Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 5:
[80:06] That's good. You need a good take button that you hit.

Speaker 3:
[80:11] Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[80:18] Good take. Yeah. I feel like Stanton has spawned on second base every ending this series.

Speaker 5:
[80:26] He should have been thrown out every time. Like he was walking the second, knowing like other Red Sox aren't even considering looking back and they're trying to gun down a guy at fifth base for some reason.

Speaker 3:
[80:36] Coley, that second one was so bad. It was so, so bad.

Speaker 4:
[80:40] That was the one Duran bobbled, right?

Speaker 3:
[80:42] Like, it's like you're not getting judge at third and stands almost to your point, kind of like teasing him. Like, I'm just going to walk like you can. You can get me. I am so going to be out. If you throw it second, I'm out like I'm big time out. But I know you're not going to. So I'm just going to troll you and just slowly walk into second. I couldn't win this and pan to him just walking. I'm like, what are we doing here? It was terrible. Jared had a couple tough ones in a row there in terms of where to throw the ball.

Speaker 5:
[81:11] Oh, story to it was like story took that relay on the first one and lobbed it ever so gingerly towards home plate while Stan was like, I guess I'm on second now like you had them, you had them by a mile.

Speaker 2:
[81:26] Anyways, Ron hair done at 70 pitches his first time against the Yankees, awesome stuff from the Bregman backup plan. That seems mean.

Speaker 3:
[81:38] I don't agree with that. Do you agree with that one? I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2:
[81:41] I mean, he was wrong. It's not wrong, but it's not nice.

Speaker 3:
[81:46] Yeah, it was a little mean.

Speaker 5:
[81:49] People have obviously been focused on the Bregman part of it all. T, do you think there's any world they also get big Wilson Contreras if they retain Bregman?

Speaker 4:
[81:59] Yeah, I think that was their plan. I think if you like asked how the offseason played out, Bregman would be here. Wilson Contreras would be here. There would have then been a trade and they would have moved whether you want to call it. I think that's why Bayo was being shopped. That's why Durand was being shopped. They were looking for that Freddie Perrault type of deal to make. I think you were going to get another pitcher in here of a high-end option, but I think they thought they were going to do it via trade and they were going to put the free agent money into Alex Bregman and you'd have those guys at first base and third base for you.

Speaker 5:
[82:30] Because you would need both because I remember they quickly pivoted to like Contreras is Bregman and to be fair, he's been better so far. I don't know how that's going to look throughout the course of the year.

Speaker 4:
[82:40] I bet over 162.

Speaker 5:
[82:42] Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked either, but like he has just been better offensively. So if you're only going to get one of those guys, I don't know that that was going to be the fix. And obviously it hasn't been.

Speaker 4:
[82:53] No, we heard them sniffing around the Freddie Perrault thing a ton, especially in that December point where they were just waiting out Bregman in their eyes. They were happy to say, hey, you don't have that offer you think you have. And we all know they had that offer. But yeah, I think that was it. I think whether it was going to be a Durand package, I think they were even open to early or totally being moved in the right trade in one of those spots. And I think with what you saw from early this year and even totally today, choosing what you invested in and you put your money towards, there's real questions whether you put it into the right thing or not. And that's not saying Ranger Suarez is a bad pitcher. It's saying you needed to use those assets on other parts of your roster.

Speaker 2:
[83:37] Ron Harris Suarez, 71 pitches, 47 strikes, four and two thirds innings, five hits, four earn runs, two walks, four strikeouts, gave up the home run. It's an even four ERAT. What was he doing?

Speaker 4:
[83:47] Shit change ups, man. The change ups were fucking garbage in that first inning. Everything that got hit hard. You knew you were in trouble when Goldschmidt made him work ten pitches to start the game and then judge right after that was seven. He doubled his hard hit total in this game compared to his last start. Still was starting most batters off with the first pitch strike, eight whiffs. Nothing significantly different in terms of what he was throwing out there. Maybe leaned on the change up at certain times like early on to try and get by. But I think it was more because he didn't have feel for the fastball. He couldn't put it where he wanted. And when he has poor command, he's fucked. It's just not enough margin for error for a guy like him. And I thought his body language when he got pulled and after the game, if you saw it, he was not happy to be pulled out at 71 pitches. Do you think that's a core problem? Do you think that's a Suarez issue? I had no faith in Suarez in that fifth inning seeing Stanton again. And I don't blame them for the way they approached it. Like he was very up and down throughout the start. You had a good second and fourth and then the first and third were a real grind. But like, what had you done to earn another chance against Stanton when this team can't score like another hit and they go up five or six one? It already was over in our eyes. Then even in Alex Cora's eyes, it's over. And I think that tells you how he's managing.

Speaker 2:
[85:00] I was disappointed because I had felt like he had built momentum in terms of we're turning a corner here and we're starting to see the real Ron Harris Suarez. So yeah, to go up against this lineup. And I mean, again, it's like the Yankees. I understand they have the best record in the American League and they're the Yankees and they spent all the money and they've got all the stars, whatever. For as awful as the Boston Red Sox are, they didn't kick your ass.

Speaker 4:
[85:31] No, well, they're actually against lefties. They've had extreme problems this year offensively. That's somewhere where you thought Suarez was going to come in. And it's part of the reason Eduardo Rivera, you know, in this game and why they went with him, that was supposed to be something you could capitalize on and you couldn't, you just weren't able to hold them down. And arguably, like you're saying, Jared, you kind of did. You held them to four runs every game.

Speaker 3:
[85:51] Like those are games you should win. Yeah, they didn't get over four. That's what might suck the most about this series.

Speaker 2:
[85:56] They didn't kick your ass.

Speaker 3:
[85:56] The Yankees scored four runs in each game and they won all of them. That's pathetic.

Speaker 2:
[86:01] Yeah. They did not come in here and absolutely dominate you and kick your ass. They just didn't do that. I know like fucking Marty Mush was like, oh, the Red Sox stink and they're hot garbage and the Yankees and they did this and they dominated. They didn't. If you ran into any other prototypical Red Sox offense, that's probably two out of three for the Sox, maybe better.

Speaker 3:
[86:28] Yeah, probably. What we're used to, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[86:31] Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's fucking pathetic.

Speaker 3:
[86:36] It's. Nobody used to have more mean growing up, but yes, fucking pathetic.

Speaker 2:
[86:43] T T broke his first. Not his first. I mean, I guess. Was that your first?

Speaker 4:
[86:47] Definitely. That was your first. Pop the chart.

Speaker 2:
[86:51] Good job, T.

Speaker 4:
[86:52] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[86:53] Good job, T. Proud of you.

Speaker 3:
[86:54] Can we hit the clubs?

Speaker 2:
[86:55] Huh?

Speaker 3:
[86:57] Can we hit the clubs?

Speaker 2:
[87:00] Oh, sorry.

Speaker 3:
[87:05] Finally got a scoop. Completed the mission.

Speaker 2:
[87:08] Stand up, T.

Speaker 3:
[87:10] Stand up.

Speaker 2:
[87:11] Stand up.

Speaker 5:
[87:11] Right now.

Speaker 6:
[87:18] My whole dick just falls out.

Speaker 5:
[87:20] He falls out the window. He just stands up and sees.

Speaker 3:
[87:24] His fucking balls are hanging out.

Speaker 2:
[87:25] His nuts are hanging out of his shorts.

Speaker 4:
[87:29] He's just got long balls.

Speaker 3:
[87:31] He's got a huge sack on his mic.

Speaker 5:
[87:35] Jesus Christ. I want to give a shout out to Mikey Eamon who, when Raffaello made that crazy catch, game one, the only thing worth cheering for, he gave one of the all time, all time hat tips. Just loved it.

Speaker 4:
[87:50] Like the old school hat tip like people used to do back in the day when it meant something.

Speaker 5:
[87:53] Oh, immediately.

Speaker 6:
[87:54] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[87:55] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[87:56] Wait, what?

Speaker 4:
[87:57] Was that Eamon?

Speaker 3:
[87:57] Did he even just say yeah?

Speaker 6:
[87:59] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[88:00] I did.

Speaker 6:
[88:01] It was a significant hat tip. I was really pissed at the time, but that got me out of my seat.

Speaker 5:
[88:07] He stood up and moved out of the aisle.

Speaker 3:
[88:10] Bang.

Speaker 6:
[88:13] Right back then.

Speaker 5:
[88:14] Bang again.

Speaker 3:
[88:15] Oh, a double tip. Wow.

Speaker 5:
[88:18] It was double worthy.

Speaker 3:
[88:19] Two time. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4:
[88:21] That's back in the day. That was really about the closest thing a man could give to another man in terms of like respect and honor.

Speaker 2:
[88:27] A hat tip. I would probably throw on some hat tips around.

Speaker 4:
[88:34] You don't wear hats.

Speaker 2:
[88:36] Yeah, bitch. I mean, on like on social media, like it would be like our hat percentile is just completely opposite. Who's the last H slash T I gave on Twitter? When was it? Well, this didn't work.

Speaker 4:
[88:51] Trying to search something on Twitter.

Speaker 5:
[88:52] There's no cox and balls.

Speaker 2:
[88:54] That's all I saw on Reddit Baseball hat tip to first prestige. They deleted the tweet, but Barstool tweeted something and I said hat tip baseball is dead, so they must have just like taken something from us. Anyways, whatever, Eduardo Rivera, big league debut was cool, punched out Jazz, the first batter that he faced in the big leagues for his first big league strikeout. That was in the fifth inning.

Speaker 4:
[89:27] Shut up, Jared. Let me cook for a second. Steve, don't laugh. I'm being very serious right now. Every year around Mother's Day, I usually freak out. What do I get, Mom? I don't want to get her flowers. Those die very quickly. I can't afford jewelry, so I'm definitely not going all the way there. You need to find a nice middle ground that will give her that warm fuzzy feeling that flowers would, but will also last and make her happy and put a smile on her face. So how about aura frames? I think that's a great place to start. Every mom out there deserves an upgrade over the regular photos she has on the wall or maybe those photo books she likes to cling to. I grew up in a household, we have so many photo books, I can't stand it. We lost some in the fire a couple of years ago, or more than a couple of years ago now, but now we don't have to worry about any of that happening. Your mom deserves an upgrade. She deserves something that she can bring wherever she goes, no matter where she lives or whatever journey she goes on. Now, some of the great things about Aura Frames, you can preload photos before it ships, keep adding them from anywhere, anytime. You can personalize the gift, add a message before it rides or arrives, something sweet, something that maybe hits her in the feelings a little bit. And it's the top rated app reached number one in the app store on Christmas Day in 2025. Great time when people are ordering presents and doing all those things. Make Mother's Day special with Aura Frames. Name number one by Wirecutter. You can save on the gifts moms love by visiting auraframes.com. For a limited time, listeners can get $25 off their best selling Carver Mat Frame with code Section 10. That's auraframes.com, promo code Section 10. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply.

Speaker 3:
[91:01] I don't know about you, T, but I like keeping my money where I can see it, damn it. Imagine not being able to see your money. I'm like, God, do I have any? Probably not. Unfortunately, traditional big wireless carriers also seem to like keeping my money too, and that pisses me off. After years of overpaying for wireless, I finally got fed up with crazy high wireless bills, bogus fees and free perks that actually cost more in the long run. So I switched to Mint Mobile. Jerry, we could be saving so much right now on Mint Mobile compared to these bogus ass wireless carriers. Am I right?

Speaker 2:
[91:40] You're 100% right, Steve.

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[91:41] That's what I thought. Stop overpaying for wireless just because that's how it's always been. Mint exists purely to fix that. Mint Mobile is here to rescue you with premium wireless plans starting at 15 bucks a month. Is that a lot of bucks a month, T?

Speaker 4:
[91:56] Way too many for me to count.

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Speaker 4:
[92:29] Definitely not.

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Speaker 2:
[93:11] The Yankees suck chance. While the Red Sox proceed to score zero runs for the entire series and Max Freed drags his nuts across all of our foreheads is so embarrassing. And I'm not even there. I actually feel the embarrassment watching the game from home.

Speaker 3:
[93:28] Insanely bad. You hate this take?

Speaker 2:
[93:32] Correct take, correct take.

Speaker 5:
[93:34] Hate this take.

Speaker 2:
[93:35] No, no, no.

Speaker 5:
[93:36] When you grew up chanting Yankees suck, what did the rivalry look like, Jared? Were we winning a lot of these games?

Speaker 2:
[93:43] We were playing them in the ALCS. Yeah, we were in the last place.

Speaker 5:
[93:48] No, we were not.

Speaker 2:
[93:49] Yes, we were.

Speaker 5:
[93:49] No, we were not. In the 90s, no, we were not. Yes, we were.

Speaker 2:
[93:52] 1999, yes, we were.

Speaker 5:
[93:54] One time, one time at the end of the decade. That's when it was.

Speaker 2:
[93:57] It was, that's when it started. That's when it started.

Speaker 3:
[93:59] No.

Speaker 5:
[94:00] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[94:00] This also shouldn't be excused.

Speaker 5:
[94:01] They started changing Yankees to suck in 1999.

Speaker 2:
[94:03] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[94:04] No.

Speaker 2:
[94:05] Mikey, Mikey, what did the docs say?

Speaker 6:
[94:10] Well, they only talked about when they made the shirts, which was 99. They didn't say when the chance started.

Speaker 3:
[94:14] So when it was probably most popular. Really good going, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[94:17] Right, so 99.

Speaker 5:
[94:18] I think it's one of the most preposterous things I've ever heard in my life. You weren't saying Yankees suck until you were 10?

Speaker 2:
[94:23] Yes, that was like, that's when it started, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[94:27] That's when you started watching the team then. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 2:
[94:31] Nah.

Speaker 5:
[94:34] You're right, we loved the Yankees. Schlittler was right, but the Yankees were beloved in Boston in 1997.

Speaker 2:
[94:38] I'm not saying that they liked the Yankees, but Yankees suck as a thing was the late 90s.

Speaker 5:
[94:48] No.

Speaker 2:
[94:49] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[94:49] I think anyone over the age of like 40 right now is losing their minds.

Speaker 2:
[94:53] Yankees suck chant? Yeah, go back and look at some of the fucking crowds from like the mid like before before Nomar got called up the in the 90s. If you went to Fenway, there was like 30 people there. There was no Yankees suck chant.

Speaker 5:
[95:10] That still happens. They don't just happen at what T nothing.

Speaker 4:
[95:14] I put them down.

Speaker 2:
[95:18] I'm telling you, like the Yankees suck chant was the late 90s.

Speaker 6:
[95:24] OK, one thing to add here.

Speaker 2:
[95:26] You ever hear Yankee? You ever see a video from the 1980s of a Yankee suck chant? Where's that video? Doesn't exist.

Speaker 5:
[95:33] Do I see a lot of Red Sox video from pre 2000? No, they're bad. They're a bad franchise forever.

Speaker 2:
[95:39] There's broadcasts.

Speaker 6:
[95:40] Yes, Mikey. Before the Yankee suck shirt, Chris Ren was telling us a story about two women from BU that were making certified Yankee hater shirts. So there was the hate for the Yankees back in the late 80s. Yeah, we know that.

Speaker 3:
[95:55] But the chant.

Speaker 5:
[95:56] Calvin was pissing on their logo for decades. Like this was.

Speaker 3:
[96:01] Yeah, the hate was there.

Speaker 5:
[96:02] These were things you would chant at any event. At any event. I'm not saying there's the same argument. I'm saying the chant happened my whole, like, there was no point in my life where I didn't hear that. The shirts are a different argument, too.

Speaker 3:
[96:18] The Yankee Suck chant gained significant popularity in the late 1990s.

Speaker 2:
[96:23] Yeah, the phrase was notably popularized on merchandise such as famous bootleg t-shirts starting around October 17, 1999, which is when the ALCS was.

Speaker 5:
[96:36] That's the shirts.

Speaker 3:
[96:37] I think that's not what people started saying.

Speaker 2:
[96:40] 1980s, the chant was reportedly heard in and around Yankee Stadium during this era.

Speaker 3:
[96:47] So that doesn't...

Speaker 5:
[96:47] Good, beat LA wasn't about the Celtics beating LA. You know what I mean? That has nothing to do with it, but thank you for proving my point that it started well before the 1999 season.

Speaker 2:
[96:56] In Yankee Stadium, this is like Yankee fans being like, the Yankees suck because they're not good.

Speaker 5:
[97:03] Okay, and that was Celtic fans rooting for the 76ers to beat the Lakers. Like, it's re-talking about it.

Speaker 3:
[97:09] Either way, it sucks to hear these chants when you're giving up leads to the Yankees. Like, regardless of when they were doing it and if they were doing it when they were losing.

Speaker 5:
[97:19] The statement isn't like the Red Sox are doing great right now.

Speaker 3:
[97:22] But Coley believes that's the spirit.

Speaker 5:
[97:23] So 1999, they look fucking stupid, too, then.

Speaker 3:
[97:25] They played them in the playoffs. They played them in the ALCS in 1999.

Speaker 5:
[97:29] And they got thumped.

Speaker 2:
[97:31] But they were a good team that made it.

Speaker 3:
[97:32] They were good.

Speaker 2:
[97:33] They were the last step before the World Series. This team is the worst of the decade.

Speaker 5:
[97:40] But in 1999, you've still done nothing, like absolutely nothing, for a hundred fucking years. But it's okay to be like, you suck when you have a good team. It's okay to do it now, that's my point. It's okay to do it right now. You don't have to be good to chant.

Speaker 3:
[97:52] I think it's stupid.

Speaker 5:
[97:54] No, you don't.

Speaker 2:
[97:55] If you're in last place, who are you to say someone that's in first place sucks? That's lame.

Speaker 3:
[98:01] You look so stupid chanting it now.

Speaker 5:
[98:03] But they do suck. Like, they suck. You just made fun of them for making the World Series. You called that embarrassed.

Speaker 2:
[98:09] They have the best record in the American League. How does that suck?

Speaker 5:
[98:13] And you said it was embarrassing that they only scored four runs in every game. They swept you and you're making fun of how they swept you. Because you know they suck. That's, again, a different argument. You agree they suck. Everything you've said about the series so far is like they didn't win by enough. They didn't win the World Series the year they made it.

Speaker 2:
[98:30] I don't agree that they suck. I said that they didn't dominate the Red Sox. They didn't blow them out of the water. That's what I said.

Speaker 5:
[98:35] They swept you.

Speaker 2:
[98:37] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[98:38] That's that's dominating the Red Sox. You couldn't score at all when perspective.

Speaker 2:
[98:42] Yeah. But like for how bad the Red Sox are, they didn't win fucking.

Speaker 5:
[98:46] No one else even predicted a sweep, except for me. Everyone thought you were going to win some games this series. And now they swept you and they didn't sweep you good enough.

Speaker 2:
[98:55] I don't think that we're speaking the same way.

Speaker 3:
[98:57] I think I don't just feel like some arguments.

Speaker 4:
[99:00] Coley speaking about a state of mind, like a mind, Red Sox fans.

Speaker 3:
[99:03] Yeah, obviously. But that's not really what people are chanting. I don't, I don't know, it's tonight. So this is this is jumping ahead. This is jumping out. I don't care. I've done that three times today. Tonight, it happened where they gave up the lead and then the loudest Yankee Suck chant started. I'm like, you guys look like it's sad. Yeah, it looks really stupid.

Speaker 2:
[99:22] Pathetic.

Speaker 3:
[99:23] It's all the timing of it. Specifically, if you're just doing it in general, it's different than like immediately giving up the lead. Like Yankees Suck.

Speaker 2:
[99:29] The kind of fan that is chanting Yankees Suck when the Yankees are in first place and the Red Sox are in last place and you just blew the lead and you're about to get swept by the Yankees. The kind of fan that then chants Yankees Suck is the fan that casually comes in and out that's like, that might be their one game that they're at that year. And it's like, oh, the wave, whoa, yeah, Sweet Caroline. We have to do Sweet Caroline because we're here. So we got to do it. And it's like, oh, we're playing the Yankees.

Speaker 5:
[100:06] That's that guy, everyone hates that guy. The vast majority of the fanbase.

Speaker 4:
[100:11] We're the sickos that like actually follow nonstop and talk about it all the time.

Speaker 2:
[100:15] And you wouldn't fucking catch me chanting Yankees Suck.

Speaker 5:
[100:19] I would be far more embarrassed. I'm far more embarrassed when Astros fans come to town and take over the park and you can't hear any Red Sox fans even when they win the game. That's embarrassing. I'm far more embarrassed when this rivalry that we say is dead has no juice at all. That's far more embarrassing. I appreciated while we were there at the game on Tuesday that there was people, there were people caring at all about a team you should not care about. Like the team is embarrassing. The fan base does not have to pretend like the team right now is representative of how they want the team to be. You suck. The Yankees fucking suck. Always. I don't give a fuck what the Red Sox. Yeah, the Red Sox are dog shit right now. We come on this show every week. Doesn't matter if they sweep or get swept and be like, yeah, this team fucking blows. So do they. And they always will.

Speaker 3:
[101:06] They're on different levels. It's just the idea of chanting Yankees suck. The second you give up a lead to the Yankees, you just look like an idiot.

Speaker 5:
[101:12] Like the timing of that one specifically, but that wasn't the argument. The argument was about the entirety of the weekend because we're on game two. It's not even when this happened, what you're talking about. Like, I know, but I think that one for sure preposterous, but they were down the whole time. So yeah, you got to still let them know.

Speaker 3:
[101:29] I thought the Yankees suck chance was stupid when I was growing up.

Speaker 4:
[101:32] Yeah, I think it's more beating our ass.

Speaker 5:
[101:34] I think that's completely fine. I think that's a completely fine take saying right now because you suck, you can't do it is a worse mentality to have.

Speaker 4:
[101:42] Like I would never chant in general. I'm just not a chant kind of guy like a baseball.

Speaker 3:
[101:47] I want it to be known. I'm not chanting stuff. All right. I'm just never there. No.

Speaker 4:
[101:53] But if I like when I go to a game, like I just want to sit and watch the game. And like I barely like talking to the person that's next to me.

Speaker 2:
[101:58] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[101:59] But like, no, there's someone you know.

Speaker 3:
[102:02] T, do we have your word T if you go to the park, you're not chanting. You're not chanting anything.

Speaker 2:
[102:06] I think not even a let's go Red Sox.

Speaker 4:
[102:09] No, I'll clap. I'm a big clap guy.

Speaker 5:
[102:11] Yeah, I'm not doing.

Speaker 2:
[102:13] Yeah. My days of chanting are over, but I used to partake.

Speaker 3:
[102:20] You're going to do a chant. What would the chant be if you were going to do a chant?

Speaker 4:
[102:24] Um, let's go Red Sox. Let's go.

Speaker 2:
[102:29] They don't do that. I find why they never have.

Speaker 5:
[102:30] That's how they do it.

Speaker 2:
[102:31] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[102:32] Is that Tom Warner?

Speaker 5:
[102:33] Yeah. Actually, I think it's much worse if you're only participating in Yankees suck chance when you're ahead and have a good team. I think that's cowardly.

Speaker 3:
[102:43] Oh, I love that. That feels like what it was for.

Speaker 4:
[102:45] Like, you can't have those moments on the other side without doing it on this side. I think that's where my head is. Like, if you want to have, like, the fuck you Yankees attitude, you got to have it 24 seven, or you can't just be like, when things are going well, you're like, oh, fuck them. No, like the mindset, the mentality. I understand what Coley's saying.

Speaker 5:
[103:03] That's Jordan talking about the Hornets. Like the Hornets get yappy winning game one. That's front running behavior.

Speaker 2:
[103:09] There's nothing more rewarding than that four game sweep in 2018 when it's like they're kicking their ass. You got fucking Steve Pearce is hitting three bombs. Yankees suck chant. They're kicking the shit out of them. And then Chapman blows it. And it's like, yeah, chant Yankees suck because they suck. They actually suck.

Speaker 5:
[103:31] Obviously better when we're winning. And that's not the argument. You can't do it only when you're winning. That's pathetic.

Speaker 2:
[103:39] Nah.

Speaker 5:
[103:42] Front running. It's front running behavior.

Speaker 2:
[103:44] No, it's not. It's just calling it like this.

Speaker 5:
[103:45] Of course it is. You're only punching down in that case.

Speaker 2:
[103:47] How are you gonna say a team?

Speaker 5:
[103:49] Is there an Orioles suck chant? No, because they're irrelevant.

Speaker 2:
[103:52] Objectively better than you. How are you gonna say that they suck?

Speaker 4:
[103:56] Because it's them no matter what.

Speaker 5:
[103:58] What do you mean they suck? They were talking about, we need new road jerseys. They're tampering with their own history. Like they suck as people. How do we talk about Cam Schlittler? We talk about him like he sucks. He obviously doesn't as a pitcher, but we know he sucks as a person.

Speaker 3:
[104:11] That's the Yankees. I think you're giving the Chan people too much credit for why they're Channing.

Speaker 4:
[104:13] With this mindset, we could never say anything because they have 27 rankings.

Speaker 2:
[104:17] And this is what we do, right?

Speaker 4:
[104:19] We just do that. But if we work with this mindset, they're always better than us and you can't ever say anything. They have 27 rings, we'll never catch up.

Speaker 5:
[104:25] Four game series, who gives a shit? Like they can point to that the whole time. They obviously suck. But you're a big boony guy and cashy and judgy, so that's why you don't think they suck.

Speaker 3:
[104:37] You like Yankees, Jerry, Yankees, Jerry.

Speaker 2:
[104:39] That's not true. I like boony. I like judgy.

Speaker 3:
[104:44] That's not true.

Speaker 2:
[104:44] I know what you're right.

Speaker 3:
[104:46] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[104:47] I just like them.

Speaker 3:
[104:48] I love all of them.

Speaker 2:
[104:49] I don't know.

Speaker 5:
[104:49] He didn't like Cashman.

Speaker 2:
[104:50] I don't know. Brian Cashman. I was saying this. I was saying this on the phone earlier.

Speaker 5:
[104:57] I was like to Brian.

Speaker 2:
[104:59] No, not to Brian.

Speaker 3:
[105:00] He was talking to BC.

Speaker 2:
[105:02] I was saying this to Hal earlier. And I was like, Max Fried used to talk to him, went to the Yankees, have not spoken since. Jazz, we used to tweet back and forth, went to the Yankees, haven't talked to him since. Who was the other one?

Speaker 5:
[105:19] He doesn't tweet with anybody anymore.

Speaker 2:
[105:21] Well, yeah, he shouldn't after the cutter thing. Who was the other one? Oh, Bellinger. We used to fucking like go out in Arizona, have not said a word to each other since he's been a Yankee. So like, I'll fucking draw the line.

Speaker 5:
[105:36] Sounds like they've drawn the line with you.

Speaker 2:
[105:37] No, no, no, no, it's a two-way street. I do think that there's like a team, the only person that broke team policy of going to the Yankees and still having a relationship with me, there was only one guy.

Speaker 5:
[105:51] Donnie.

Speaker 2:
[105:53] Donnie?

Speaker 5:
[105:53] Joshy.

Speaker 2:
[105:54] Joshy? Yeah, Joshy.

Speaker 5:
[105:56] Joshy Donnie.

Speaker 2:
[105:57] That was it. That was it. That was it. Max Fried is great.

Speaker 5:
[106:03] Because they suck.

Speaker 2:
[106:04] But the Red Sox truly have no answer for left-handed pitching. It's basically a scheduled loss against any lefty, never mind the good ones. I'm almost mad that the Red Sox scored a run in the ninth. I'd rather get shout out again so that somebody could get fired and we can initiate some change. Red Sox lose four-one. Game three. Game three. First line here says, no Roman again. Hmm. Hmm.

Speaker 4:
[106:38] You guys are doing a lot of him. A lot of him and not saying much.

Speaker 3:
[106:42] Watching, observing.

Speaker 2:
[106:44] We're just observing, T.

Speaker 3:
[106:46] Hmm.

Speaker 2:
[106:50] By the way, I was getting accused of telling you to delete that tweet the other day. I didn't tell you to do that.

Speaker 4:
[106:55] You did not. Nope.

Speaker 2:
[106:57] No.

Speaker 4:
[106:57] You were not.

Speaker 2:
[106:59] I said, I said, if I tweeted it and it was up and someone asked me to take it down, I would have left it up. But I said, you do what you do, T.

Speaker 4:
[107:09] Yeah. I'll speak on it. I might as well know that we've mentioned it on the podcast. No, I was someone closer to the situation, messaged me with some context and I felt weird having posted it the way I did. I took it down with the context. It felt a little weird to me. Yeah, that was what I did. The video was on IG. Anyone could repost it. I just posted it on my page.

Speaker 2:
[107:33] It wasn't your video.

Speaker 4:
[107:34] People were acting like I found it. It was on IG.

Speaker 2:
[107:37] People were acting like you went to the bar and took the video and posted it without him knowing.

Speaker 4:
[107:42] No, it was a big account that posted it. One that I'm not super familiar with, but it popped up because it was a Roman Anthony related clip. But I felt like when I got the context of what the scene was and why he was there, it felt a little weird, I think, with the way I had framed it. How did you frame it?

Speaker 2:
[107:59] I don't even know.

Speaker 4:
[108:01] I didn't even post it in a negative light. I think I posted it said something like, this is the most Boston video ever. I think that was the way it was posted.

Speaker 3:
[108:08] Sounds like what you would say.

Speaker 2:
[108:09] That seems harmless.

Speaker 4:
[108:11] The way it was explained to me and the way it was being interpreted.

Speaker 5:
[108:14] This is a very New Jersey video, T. This is disgusting behavior. How dare you? Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[108:19] Yeah. I don't know. I just felt like I had context that changed my outlook on it. So that's why I took it down.

Speaker 5:
[108:27] What does that mean?

Speaker 4:
[108:28] So stupid. I would be revealing.

Speaker 5:
[108:30] I don't want you to reveal what the conversation was.

Speaker 3:
[108:32] No, of course not.

Speaker 4:
[108:33] But no, it just changed how I perceive the video personally. Perhave.

Speaker 3:
[108:38] I perceive it one way. They perceive it.

Speaker 4:
[108:41] But once again, like if you want to hit on it, like, do I feel great to see a 22 year old face of the franchise out at the bar before a big Yankees game? No, I don't feel great about that. No, no.

Speaker 2:
[108:52] Out at the bars. So put it this way, before social media and cell phone cameras, this is what baseball players did. You know, they used to fucking ride the trains into the next town and they'd get shit faced on the train and then roll out of bed the next morning. Babe Ruth was socking home runs and then banging hookers in a dumpster after the game. Like, that's baseball, brother. It's the optics. It's the optics of it, right? Like, it's like, you're not playing well, the team's not playing well, you just got a bunch of money, you've been in the big leagues for a few months collectively, you know, you don't have a lot of tenure, you're being depended on to be the face, the franchise got paid, you're not playing good, team's not playing good. Is it a great look to be out and fucking selfie six nights a week? No. But like, he's 21, he's gonna do what 21 year olds do. Optically doesn't look great, but I mean, this is ball, but you have to adjust for 2026. Cause the other end of the spectrum, right? I remember 2022-ish, 23-ish, we would hear that like, yeah, like the guys don't go out for beers anymore and they don't bond and they don't hang out.

Speaker 4:
[110:20] Remember the Devers dinner picture was supposed to be a big thing.

Speaker 2:
[110:22] They go out and they go to the fucking game, they go home, they play Xbox and they go to bed. That's why there's no team camaraderie, there's no relationships getting developed. So it's like, it's a very much a catch-22 situation. Do you want them just being robots that are only at the field and go home and play fucking Xbox and smoke weed and go to bed? Or do you want them to go have some beers with the boys and be social and try to build relationships and whatever? Some balance of the two. I think it's more just when you are paid and you're young and you're looked at as the face of the franchise, there's expectations would come with that and you just got to be careful about the phones and whatever else, but is it a crime to be having a couple of drinks after a game? Nope, but optically you got to know I probably shouldn't, I probably shouldn't be in videos and whatnot given the situation of where the team's at, who's coming to town and how I have performed to this point. But at the end of the day, I want the guys going out for beers after, like go, like go blow off some steam. Everyone is tight assholes coming into the clubhouse. Everyone's pressing, trying to hit a nine run home run and get the Red Sox offense going and everyone's looking at their Instagram DMs, people talking shit and all their comments and Twitter, people talking shit about them. They're just probably wearing that. Go blow off some steam, whatever. Don't look like you're celebrating a championship, don't look like you're having a fucking awesome time, but go get the team together, go get dinner, go have beers and shut out the noise, whatever. It's just optically just be cognizant of how it comes off in certain situations, that's all.

Speaker 3:
[112:15] The watching noticing thing, that's kind of where I've been at with Roman being out in the city seemingly every single night, but there's no way to talk about it without sounding kind of like a loser. Like for someone like us to critique it and someone like me who loves going out, I'm not going to sit here and be like, dude, like you got to pump the brakes a little bit, like you really got to calm down. But on the other side of things, it's like people that are going to chirp you about it when you're okay with these videos being taken of you and like participating in the videos, those chirps are fair. Like if you're going to, and I hate, and this is not fair by the way, but if you're going to hit 200 and people are going to critique you for that, those critiques are coming and they're only going to keep stacking on top of each other if you're not going to perform. Is that fair? No, that's just what's going to happen. That's just naturally what's going to happen in this situation. The tough part with Roman and Cello is that these guys are young, good-looking dudes and they get a lot of attention in the city as they should. But I need them, I would love for them to learn the VIP section. I would love for them to learn behind some ropes and being with your people and maybe inviting some people over there. People are filming you from a distance or whatever, that's on them. You can't really control that, that's a lot different than being in the videos like, ah, like, what, ah, and then you're out for two of the three Yankee games. Naturally, we're gonna have a reaction to that. It's not a great look, and again, I say that and I feel like I'm a loser even saying that, but it's just like, that's gonna be the reaction.

Speaker 2:
[113:42] If they had an adult in the room, they would have been saying the same thing to his face. 100%.

Speaker 4:
[113:47] That's it. Bregman calls you and tells you, dude, don't do that shit. Yeah, wrap it up, clean it up.

Speaker 2:
[113:52] Clean it up. Yeah, like what Steve said, just like don't be noticeably hammered being like, like in a video, like that it optically, it doesn't look good.

Speaker 3:
[114:01] I've obviously never done that. Like I've never done that.

Speaker 2:
[114:03] It's yeah, same.

Speaker 3:
[114:04] At baseball time and a thousand times.

Speaker 2:
[114:06] Yeah, like it's not to say don't have a life and only be at the field or barricade yourself inside your apartment. Like that's not, that's not the point. It's just be aware of phones, cameras, et cetera, and how it's going to come off in the consequences of personally not performing well, the team not performing well, and what the team's expectations are of are you after getting a contract like that.

Speaker 3:
[114:35] Of you?

Speaker 4:
[114:36] It's also the player, like, it's a guy in Roman Anthony, work ethic has never even been mentioned as a thing with him. He is known as the grinder, is the guy who is obsessive over his craft, who puts the time in. Like, there is never, Marcelo, we've heard since the day he was drafted, character concerns. Like, let's just be 100% honest about it. Questions about how hard he works, what he's doing in the gym, how invested is he, does he like being a baseball player, as much as he likes being, you know, a top draft pick in the lifestyle that kind of comes with that. Those have always been the questions. With Roman, it's been the, no one, nobody has ever said that. So it's weird when you do see him in some of these spots and like those conversations start because he's just never been branded that way. He's always been painted as like the example. I wish more people were like Roman. Like you don't find guys like Roman. He's an alien.

Speaker 5:
[115:26] I don't think this takes away from that, like at all, really.

Speaker 4:
[115:29] No, but when you're kind of compartmentalizing those two aspects of people being like, well, is he out and living this lifestyle? Like, is he not as focused on baseball as he should be when at least what we've always heard and talked about, he is obsessive to the point of, like the greats typically are, quote unquote.

Speaker 5:
[115:46] But I would say all the greats were like raging alcoholics.

Speaker 4:
[115:49] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[115:49] Like in every sport.

Speaker 4:
[115:51] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[115:51] Literally all of them. And I'm not saying he's an alcoholic. Like I take that very seriously. But what I am saying is like the game's not at nine in the morning. He's getting video at three in the afternoon. He's also 21.

Speaker 4:
[116:03] That video was up at like 9pm. Yeah, he's a 21 year old.

Speaker 5:
[116:05] He's a 21 year old super athlete.

Speaker 3:
[116:07] His hangover's like I can exist.

Speaker 2:
[116:08] Multi-multi-millionaire. Yeah. And yeah.

Speaker 5:
[116:11] So like I like I can't I can't demonize him. Not based off of everything you guys have said, because you're right, the optics in this city are not going to like that ever. I do not care.

Speaker 4:
[116:23] Ten years ago, Felger and Mazda's two hours on that.

Speaker 5:
[116:26] Yeah, I bet it's like if Rabel wasn't doing his shit this week, I'm sure this came up. But one thing Steve said was like he gets it that they're doing this. Like they've earned it. Like have they? What have they done? What's about what these guys like? This is where they should. They should be living it up. Like, should they? Like I look at Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum. They should be.

Speaker 2:
[116:48] I don't think I'm more saying their life time. Time out. Time out.

Speaker 5:
[116:50] Like they haven't. They've earned much yet.

Speaker 2:
[116:53] I don't think that they're, quote unquote, living it up. But yeah, there are people that'll be like, hey, they were out again. Like I'm not going to like name drop like the bars and the restaurants. Saw them again last night. Saw them again last night. Saw them again last night. But like think about it this way, right? You're Roman Anthony. You're a young Italian boy. You grew up, your family, like your mother's cooking for you. She's in the kitchen every single night making you the macaroni and the meatballs with the sauce. And now you are, you've got millions of dollars in the bank. You're the face of the Boston Red Sox franchise. You don't have any friends and family that live in Boston. And I don't know where he, his apartment is, but like if they're out in the North End all the time and I can afford to fucking eat in the North End every single night, guess where the fuck I'm gonna be? I'm not door dashing Taco Bell. I'm going to the North End, getting a fantastic meal, eating like a king and then I'm going to bed. That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 3:
[117:50] They take the picture and that's what pays for the food.

Speaker 2:
[117:52] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[117:53] Yeah, and I'm saying that is wrong. Like he should be paying. They both should be paying.

Speaker 3:
[117:58] I get what you're saying. This is Boston.

Speaker 5:
[118:00] This is not fucking Kansas City. This is not some shit.

Speaker 2:
[118:03] What are you talking about?

Speaker 5:
[118:04] They haven't earned that.

Speaker 3:
[118:05] I'm not talking about earned it on the field or anything. I'm talking about like they've gone.

Speaker 5:
[118:09] They should be buying their dinner.

Speaker 2:
[118:10] Yeah, I'm not saying that they're, I don't know that they're calm.

Speaker 3:
[118:13] They're young, good looking dudes. They should be able to go out like this.

Speaker 5:
[118:17] I didn't say you were. I'm saying they should be paying for this stuff. Like I know they're getting, they're definitely getting calmed. Of course they are.

Speaker 3:
[118:22] Oh, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[118:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[118:24] I don't know.

Speaker 5:
[118:24] They can post it all everywhere.

Speaker 4:
[118:26] I was about to say, I've seen Roman and Marcelo in front of so many restaurants.

Speaker 3:
[118:29] I don't know if there's a North End restaurant they haven't done a pic with yet. And it's actually every Italian spot.

Speaker 5:
[118:35] They need, you know who they need? They need Dave to yell at them. Portnoy, no free ads, boys. The free ads they've stacked up. They've burned through them all. The first month of the season, they've done all their free ads.

Speaker 3:
[118:48] I think Mike's Pastries might be the only place left. I got a cannoli. I love this place.

Speaker 2:
[118:53] But they don't have, like, there's, I don't think that they have, like, guidance. There's no one to help them maneuver the city of Boston as a notable athlete.

Speaker 5:
[119:04] There's no one. That is Romy.

Speaker 4:
[119:06] Well, that was my...

Speaker 5:
[119:07] Clearly using, it's using them.

Speaker 1:
[119:09] Right, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[119:10] Like, when Romy was with them, he was hyped.

Speaker 4:
[119:12] It was like, there was no one being like a dad, like, dude, just lay it down. And I feel like Bregman was that guy, like, calling young players at midnight.

Speaker 5:
[119:21] But he's not from here, like, he doesn't have, like, you know what I mean? Like, you're right with the team part, but he doesn't know the city as well, like, even as well as they do. That's part of it, though, that's part of it.

Speaker 4:
[119:31] Of course, but just having someone in your ear, like, man, if I go out this, I know this dude's gonna fucking cook the hell out of me when I walk in tomorrow morning, or I'm gonna have a text message in the morning. Like, yeah, you kinda need that sometimes to show you where the bumpers of life are. And that's, it's the learning experience. They don't have that. On a performance standpoint, I cannot emphasize it enough, I have no worries about Roman Anthony at all.

Speaker 3:
[119:53] No.

Speaker 5:
[119:54] No. Or work ethic or character concerns.

Speaker 3:
[119:57] No, none of that's an issue.

Speaker 1:
[119:59] If anything, it's just surprising from all the ingredients we've been fed. I say ingredients way too much, I get it, Reddit. But from everything that we've learned about Roman Anthony, even at the age of 21, we feel like we know him like the back of our hand. I think to that point, it's now like, oh, damn, that's the same guy that's out every night? That doesn't seem to compute what we already know about him. Not to say like going out is a bad thing, but when again, it's like pictures at every single North End restaurant and constantly hear it, oh, he's out late and he's blah, blah, blah. Again, if you can do both, do both. But I do feel like with how long the season is, how much is required of you, it can be a lot to try to balance all of this. I'm sure part of his going out is to just check out. Especially when you're pitched as the guy and you got so much pressure on you and everyone's buying your jerseys and on a national scale now you're known more after the WBC. I get it. I'm sure that that's, I don't get it. I don't have any clue what he's going through right now. That's a level of fame that not a lot of people get at 21. So if you're going to blow off some steam in Southie, have at it. I would just, well, VIP Section, if they even do that in Southie.

Speaker 2:
[121:05] But you don't know what it's like to be him, knowing very few people do. You know what it's like to be 21 with even like $40 in your pocket. You're an unkillable human being at that point in time. You are the king of the world. And then he's doing it with $100 million in his right pocket. Like, yeah, of course. Like that, you're doing every, just start hitting the ball more, pal. That's all we ask.

Speaker 3:
[121:31] So you think the last couple of days there's been a disciplinary component to this?

Speaker 4:
[121:35] Who are you asking that question to?

Speaker 3:
[121:38] All three.

Speaker 4:
[121:39] I do, for sure.

Speaker 3:
[121:40] Coley, there's one.

Speaker 6:
[121:42] I haven't ruled that out.

Speaker 2:
[121:44] He got chokeslammed through the table while he was hammered.

Speaker 3:
[121:48] He spoke after the game today. He's dealing with back spasms that happened on a swing. That's the explanation.

Speaker 1:
[121:54] I will say part of me hopes it's disciplinary and not a back issue. If we're just talking about the future of this team.

Speaker 3:
[122:00] If they benched him two games in this series for that, then I want everyone gone as well. Then you are an idiot. It was not worth costing yourself this series to set him two games in a row.

Speaker 6:
[122:09] Do you think that he makes that much of a difference in the series?

Speaker 3:
[122:13] Yes, I do. He's the best hitter on the team. 100%. Even if you just take one game.

Speaker 2:
[122:18] Theoretically.

Speaker 6:
[122:19] Yeah, like talent wise, yes, but like...

Speaker 3:
[122:22] 100%. You are a better team. I don't have to hopefully watch IKF play against me.

Speaker 6:
[122:26] I think, you know, it's kind of the Carlos Narvaez benching was the tip of the iceberg where Cora may be sitting there saying, like, I'm not a fucking babysitter, man. Like, I managed a group of professionals to the best season this franchise has ever seen. And if we're not all in and invested on winning a championship this year, then why, like, what are we doing? Like, why am I even here? So, again, I don't know. I mean, my first thought, I definitely did not think disciplinary for the first game, but then the second game, it wasn't so much that he was going to be out of the line up. It was like, yeah, he might be available to like pinch hit later in the game.

Speaker 3:
[123:13] It's like if a core, it said when he said it, like Cerelo followed up with it, he was like, he made it clear he's not he's not ready to go. It was game and ship, if anything. The fuck that they like when you have a guy that's probably not able to play its game and ship.

Speaker 6:
[123:30] You know, it's not for that.

Speaker 3:
[123:32] That's how it was framed by the beat writers.

Speaker 6:
[123:34] You do that for like a pitcher, maybe. It's like, oh, maybe like we're going to change our line up and pinch hit this guy that like for a position player who fucking care like the looming thread of Roman Anthony is going to mean anything to Aaron Boone.

Speaker 3:
[123:46] I think so.

Speaker 6:
[123:47] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[123:47] I think I'm the bench.

Speaker 2:
[123:48] I think I think it's gamesmanship to the beat writers to be like nice. He's not that he is hurt. He's not disciplinary.

Speaker 3:
[123:57] They correlated on pretty friggin thick the last 24 hours. Like he was in, you know, he was getting treatment all last night. He was in there. Like that was the situation.

Speaker 6:
[124:06] What does it feel better? But I would love to, for the, for the, for the plot, I would love to get a fucking two hour back massage on a table. Like, oh man, yeah, my back really sucks. Yeah. Like, like back massages feel great. Whatever. I don't care. I don't know. I'm just curious. I don't know. I don't know. I got, I'm not, if you, if you were able to confirm one way or the other, would it surprise me? No. And I mean, we've literally already seen a disciplinary benching this year where the details were not announced and they didn't, you know, didn't make it a whole thing. Who knows? I don't.

Speaker 3:
[124:50] But it was clear there was no injury or anything.

Speaker 6:
[124:55] Yeah, I guess. But then it's like, all right, well, if we just outright say that we benched Roman Anthony for disciplinary actions, then people are going to look at Corbyn like this is the second disciplinary benching in the first fucking month of the season. What kind of clubhouse are you running over there?

Speaker 3:
[125:09] If you're doing it this way, you're setting the example to everybody else in that clubhouse.

Speaker 6:
[125:15] I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to. Take them at their word, T. It's not disciplinary. It's it's a back.

Speaker 4:
[125:24] I don't think you have to call you this.

Speaker 2:
[125:29] Is this is this organization earned a word?

Speaker 3:
[125:32] Definitely not on injuries. Roller might show up tomorrow and be on a friggin 60 day IL till the end of time.

Speaker 2:
[125:40] Get to Steve's point. Let's hope it's not.

Speaker 3:
[125:43] Hopefully.

Speaker 1:
[125:44] Yeah, I'd honestly prefer that it's a disciplinary thing. Maybe that can then, I want to say, like knock him in, knock him in his shape would be stupid to use there. But you know what I mean? Just like, hey, we're noticing. Let's just clean that up a little bit. And then if you're, if he's fully healthy, that's great.

Speaker 6:
[125:57] Here's where I've got my reasonable doubt. I don't think that it's a two game sit down offense. It's like, hey, fucking Yankees are in town. Don't be partying, blah, blah, blah. We're going to bench your ass. Like I don't think it's a two game benching. That's why I don't think it's disciplinary.

Speaker 3:
[126:13] It doesn't sound like he's going to play tomorrow. At least the way the quotes were after the game. Like to say he still doesn't feel great, like is it going to magically change by sleeping?

Speaker 2:
[126:23] Yeah, it's in Baltimore, right?

Speaker 3:
[126:24] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[126:25] And it's like, unless he was like late on Tuesday, are you going to really discipline someone for fucking having some drinks on Marathon Monday? Like, who cares?

Speaker 2:
[126:40] I think the backlash, because people, I heard a lot about it when we were at the park on Tuesday. People wouldn't stop talking about it.

Speaker 3:
[126:48] It was weird, because working at a radio station that blows these things up all the time, nobody talked about it this week on the sports hub. It was not a story. There was not an article written about it. It was just Twitter.

Speaker 2:
[127:00] People were busy with football.

Speaker 3:
[127:03] True, true, but you know, just in a city where-

Speaker 2:
[127:04] And both the other teams are in the playoffs, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[127:07] Sure, sure, but we've done-

Speaker 2:
[127:08] It was a good week for all this to happen.

Speaker 3:
[127:10] Yeah, definitely, but we've done Red Sox talk every day. Maz has been doing an hour on the baseball hour. Hasn't been a topic or conversation yet. Maybe something changes.

Speaker 6:
[127:19] I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[127:20] I genuinely- I don't know.

Speaker 6:
[127:22] I think Vrabel takes precedent over Roman Anthony having some tequila sodas.

Speaker 1:
[127:30] I would love to know how many picks we're gonna get because every day it's a new batch, so I do wonder when we run out of picks.

Speaker 2:
[127:36] Roman or Vrabel?

Speaker 1:
[127:38] No, Vrabel and Roos.

Speaker 3:
[127:39] Roman and Rusini, baby.

Speaker 1:
[127:41] Dude, I'm telling you, Vrabel and Rusini, I think have been seeing each other for 20 years.

Speaker 2:
[127:44] Roman in the background with one of these pictures.

Speaker 1:
[127:47] Roman's-

Speaker 6:
[127:49] Every time-

Speaker 1:
[127:51] Rusini!

Speaker 6:
[127:54] There's clips from interviews of her from 2021 saying some wild shit about Vrabel. I'm like, man, this thing goes deep. That documentary is gonna go crazy.

Speaker 1:
[128:03] This story gets crazier by the day. Oh, it's gonna go nuts. Too much for me today. Netflix. I mean, Dan's probably directing it.

Speaker 2:
[128:10] I need to patent pen this, so anyone who hears this, I'll take you to court. I'm gonna do, you know how the women are into those real slutty books right now?

Speaker 1:
[128:20] Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2:
[128:21] I'm writing the coach and the reporter version of that. I'm already claiming that. That's gonna be a billionaire.

Speaker 1:
[128:28] Yeah, can't wait to read it.

Speaker 6:
[128:30] Yeah. All right, let's get through these notes that fucking 2K and Mikey aren't up until 7 o'clock tomorrow morning. Where did I leave off? Peyton Toley has gigantic balls, strikes out Trent Grisham with the bases loaded. That's eight strikeouts. Wait, so I skipped a whole bunch here. Shut the fuck up, Tyler. Oh my god, dude. The yapping. I'm trying to talk about GLD. Trying to talk about it. Everyone keeps asking me, where did you get your chain from? Where did you get your chain from? I think the first time I broke it out was at FanFest at Fenway. I commented on it. Yeah, I was wearing it at FanFest. Everyone was like, that is a chain. That's a statement chain right there. Where did you get it? Where did you get it? At the time, I was like, I don't want to tell you. I don't need everyone wearing the same chains as me. But then I was like, you know what? Why would I hold it from people? I got to share the wealth. And think about this for a second. Every guy has those go-to pieces. Am I right? The shoes that go with everything, that one pair of jeans that fit just right, that t-shirt that always looks clean, no matter what you pair it with. You don't overthink those pieces. You just grab them and they work every time. Most guys are missing one thing from that line up. And that would be jewelry. And that's where GLD comes in. They make the kind of pieces that become part of your routine, not just something that you save for special occasions or once in a while, just clean quality pieces that instantly make your fit look more fresh. Once you add a GLD chain to your rotation, you will never go back. And this isn't the cheap stuff. GLD only uses real gold. Every stone is handset and their production process is on a completely different level. You can see it. You can really feel it when you have it in your hand and especially when you wear it around your neck. I mean, feel this, T. It's heavy. This is the good quality shit right here.

Speaker 3:
[130:32] I can't pick it up. It's breaking my arms.

Speaker 6:
[130:34] Yeah, this is the good quality shit right here, T. This is the good stuff. I wear it every day. I wear it every day. I used to be like a diamond guy. Now I'm a gold guy. Yeah, good switch. No, I switched it up. Yeah, big, big switch, big change for me, but I've been rocking it since December. This is one of those pieces that you put on once and it never comes off. It hasn't come off pretty much since I got it. They've got everything too, chains, pennants, bracelets, even a nice selection of watches, whether you keep it simple or like a little shine, they have got you covered. And it's not just hype. They have over two million customers and 50,000 five-star reviews with GLD being worn by names like Justin Bieber, the Biebs. We love the Biebs on here. Who's Mika Parsons?

Speaker 1:
[131:24] Also known as Mika Parsons.

Speaker 6:
[131:26] Mika Parsons, who's that?

Speaker 1:
[131:28] He's one of the best defensive players in the world.

Speaker 6:
[131:31] Okay, an ASAP Rocky rapper.

Speaker 1:
[131:35] Yep, plays for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2:
[132:54] We haven't started on game three yet.

Speaker 6:
[132:57] I did the first line, no Roman again. That was the first line. That just went into like a 25 minute tangent. All right, let me fly through these so that they can fucking go to bed. I just want on the record before a pitch is thrown I think Cam Schlitler is throwing a complete game shout out tonight. Minimum eight shout out innings with double digit strikeouts. Minimum eight innings, like we were ballparking it. Peyton Tully has me rock hard in the first inning, strikes out the side. I still have a raging erection. That was in the second. Meyer off the wall to drive in TS10 with two outs. That made me feel something. Red Sox won nothing, bottom two. Peyton Tully has gigantic balls, strikes out Trent Gershon with the bases loaded. That's eight strikes out in the fourth. Coley's boy, Jazz, takes Tully deep, one one in the fifth. The Red Sox actually homered the captain off cam, two one Red Sox, bottom five. Ten strikeouts for Tully, gets judged swinging in the sixth. I wanna kiss Peyton Tully on the mouth, punches out Stanton for the third time, 11 Ks. My nuts are so swollen. That was in the sixth. Tully, 93 pitches, 63 strikes, six innings, three hits, one earn run, one walk, 11 Ks, one home run, a 150 ERAT. What was Tully doing tonight? Besides making me fucking horny.

Speaker 3:
[134:14] I was right there with you. A lot different than what he's been doing in AAA. And I think he was working on stuff. We've heard about the three headed monster of hard with the cutter, the sinker and the four seamer. Down there, he was throwing the cutter, sinker and four seamer all between 24 to 27%. In this start back in the big leagues, he leaned heavy back into the four seamer at 49%. The sinker was playing really well. And I think the thing that was really encouraging, the curve ball, he had seven whiffs on that alone. Especially late in the start, that and the change up really popped to me. But 18 whiffs total. And to see him kind of, all right, like I have this arsenal. I know what the four seamer is going to play, especially when he's a little juiced up in the velocities there all the way, topped out at 99.5, average 97.1. I just think you saw an arsenal that was a lot more well rounded. He looked a lot more like a pitcher, not just a thrower. And man, you look at someone like Toley here and it's going to be very, very hard to send him down if it looks like this over a couple of starts. And then what are the conversations you start having? Because it's going to be another logjam, another uncomfortable place. And credit to him, man, this is why he is what number 11 on the top 100 for Baseball America right now.

Speaker 2:
[135:25] Anyone who wanted this guy traded in the off season, he's an asshole.

Speaker 3:
[135:28] Same.

Speaker 6:
[135:32] Who said that? You, Coley?

Speaker 1:
[135:34] Humans?

Speaker 2:
[135:35] No, no. That was floating around. There was a lot of like, I would rather keep Connelly over Toley. And I'm glad we had both.

Speaker 6:
[135:42] I wanted to keep both. I'm glad we did that.

Speaker 3:
[135:44] Post Suarez though, I think everyone thought one of them was gone, right? Like that was the assumption at that point.

Speaker 2:
[135:49] It certainly felt more palatable at that point in time, but I just didn't know where it was going to happen because of that, correct me if I'm wrong, is that after they had taken Marte off the market?

Speaker 3:
[136:00] Yes, Marte, but people were hoping you'd circle back or some shit at that point, you know?

Speaker 6:
[136:04] Sure, of course, but I think they tried, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[136:07] I think they tried to, yeah, but with Craig circling back, it's like, hey, still got that same shitty offer I offered a few months ago.

Speaker 1:
[136:13] Thoughts? Thoughts now? I haven't tweaked it at all. You don't like it?

Speaker 2:
[136:17] It's actually worse.

Speaker 6:
[136:18] It's the same offer that you hated the first time.

Speaker 3:
[136:20] 12 months from now are Connolly Early and Payton Tolley better pitchers than Ranger Suarez.

Speaker 6:
[136:28] How many months?

Speaker 3:
[136:30] A year from now. Let's go 27. May 27.

Speaker 6:
[136:35] I think the gap closes significantly.

Speaker 3:
[136:39] Interesting.

Speaker 6:
[136:40] I mean, you know.

Speaker 2:
[136:41] And I don't think, like, I could see Tolley being better. I don't know that Early. Early's kind of the same pitcher with a little bit more velocity.

Speaker 3:
[136:47] Yeah, I think Tolley will be better. Maybe it'll be there a year from now. I still think there's going to be some ups and downs here, especially when his command isn't as sharp as it was. Of course.

Speaker 2:
[136:57] I like having all of them.

Speaker 3:
[136:58] Of course.

Speaker 2:
[136:59] I like having all three of these guys.

Speaker 3:
[137:00] I do wonder, though, if there's eventually going to be a thought process of, man, you should have invested that in something else when you had these two guys here already.

Speaker 2:
[137:08] Sure. But they also went into this off season like we'd love Dylan Cease. Like they wanted that kind of pitcher. I think it's more the the reason he's here is a sunny gray. That's the that's I'm more confused about that than anything, knowing they wanted to add multiple pitchers.

Speaker 3:
[137:24] It's also the same belief that they are out of pitching options already and they need everybody that's here. If another injury happens, I don't know what they're going to do.

Speaker 1:
[137:32] I think you're pitching too.

Speaker 2:
[137:33] Yeah, of course it's going to be Jake Bennett. Although do we have any other like 22 year olds floating around down there?

Speaker 3:
[137:38] I'll let you know what I'm hearing.

Speaker 6:
[137:42] If this bullpen blows it for Toley, I am going to smash my fucking TV. It's first and second with one out. Next line says base is loaded now. Fucking Greg Weissert, what do you even do? Bellinger two run knock, three two Yankees in the top of the seventh. I don't know about you guys, the second that they took the lead, I was like, it's this game's done. Like it was a one run lead and I was like, it's two to one.

Speaker 1:
[138:05] There was a zero percent chance of the final score. I thought when the Sox took the lead, I'm like, this ain't going to do it to one. Like that's that's not going to do shit. Oh yeah. Three to two, yeah, that game's over. I mean, four to two, big over. You saw Judge do one like they would talk about the Yankee Suck thing. When he got to second, he was like, Yankee Suck, yeah, yeah, yeah, we fucking suck.

Speaker 6:
[138:25] Four to two, it was like, ease up, guys. Stop beating up on us.

Speaker 1:
[138:29] Yeah, guys, guys, guys, like this is close to the slaughter rule.

Speaker 2:
[138:32] Yeah, it felt like an avalanche of runs in real time. I expected the scoreboard to look like in Space Jam when the Monstars start going off, like a bit much, ain't it? Like that's how it felt.

Speaker 1:
[138:44] I'm not going to lie, when the inning was over, because I was intentionally not looking at the scoreboard because it felt real bad. And then they get out of the bases loaded situation, I'm like, they're only down two? That's what this feels like right now. Was it four straight hits?

Speaker 6:
[138:57] It was four straight hits.

Speaker 1:
[138:58] I think so, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[138:59] When Willier kicked the ball around, I was like, how did not every... I thought guys from the dugout were going to score. I was like, it feels like everybody's running around.

Speaker 1:
[139:06] I could have sworn they were just going to add runs. Like that's eight-two, that's eight-two. Like Willier never does that.

Speaker 2:
[139:11] We talk about the weather, what the actual temperature is versus real field. It was actually four-two, real field was like 16-1.

Speaker 1:
[139:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Real field was game three of the 2018 ALDS. This is real quick. Does Weissert ever get out of a dirty inning? Literally ever. It genuinely seems like any time he comes into these innings, he's given out runs. That's the hard part. Right, that's the fucking dumbest thing for me to say ever because I was praising him last show. But outside of that one, it never feels like, it never feels like he gets out of that situation. That's why I was so stunned it happened. We almost didn't mention it on the last pod. I'm like, we got to point this out because Greg Weissert just pulled a miracle and had like a ten pitch inning and had three strikeouts. Somehow in this situation, not somehow, he does it all the time. He gives up the runs. He always gives up inherited runners. It drives me nuts.

Speaker 2:
[139:58] He's streaky. So that's where coming off of the good one, I thought he was going to start stacking the good ones and he just fucking didn't.

Speaker 3:
[140:06] He had been hot since Slayton got hurt. I think that's who you're missing more than anything in that spot. But this is before today. Greg Weiser in high leverage spots, opposing hitters, 255, 346, 472, 818 OPS. So 137 OPS plus that hitters have against him in high leverage spots. It's like when you put the pressure on him, it doesn't go great. That's just the kind of guy he is, but he's a mediocre low leverage arm that is now being boosted up without Justin Slayton here. They should have done more for this bullpen. We had the conversation over the off season and even Danny Coulom, Trent Grisham, Jazz Chisholm both getting singles off you. You're a lefty dude. You need to get those guys out. I was surprised they let him face Caballero, because that's a guy that hits lefties better than he does righties. I thought they would go to Weissert there, but still you have Austin Wells lurking and you knew Cody Bellinger was coming. The reason they didn't use Garrett Whitlock in the seventh is because Judge and Stanton were all waiting and they all came up because the runs came in, but you needed Whitlock for the eighth inning to take those guys out. And Whitlock's not a two-inning arm anymore. He hasn't been used that way once this year.

Speaker 6:
[141:11] Nor should he be.

Speaker 3:
[141:12] No.

Speaker 2:
[141:14] You're sure. But to Steve's point, he only gets dirty innings, Greg. That's it.

Speaker 1:
[141:23] He never gets clean innings ever.

Speaker 2:
[141:25] It's never like he's coming in next inning. Great job, Toley. You got the fresh one, Greg.

Speaker 1:
[141:30] I got no clue what Greg Weissert's walk-in song is. You never hear it. Like, he's coming in during innings and I don't think they play it. Maybe they do. Correct me if I'm wrong. But it's just like, Greg Weissert and here we go. It's second and third with one out. I wonder what's gonna happen. Drives me nuts. It also sucks that he just kind of looks like a guy that's gonna come in and give up runs. He's got, when he's walking, and you notice it when he's walking off the mountain tonight, he's got that like Eeyore thing of like, oh, it's boo hoo, it's me. Like he really has the sad look down and his performance a lot of the time matches that.

Speaker 6:
[142:03] I'm pretty sure that's how we discovered Roosey was Gregg Weissert fucked up a game that Peyton Tolley pitched.

Speaker 1:
[142:11] It was his big debut. It was his Fenway debut.

Speaker 6:
[142:15] Literally.

Speaker 2:
[142:16] That game, the Red Sox blew it. Peyton Tolley's great start. It was Gregg Weissert and Roman Anthony was out with a hurt back. It was the same game as this.

Speaker 1:
[142:24] Everybody seems to love Peyton Tolley except for Gregg Weissert.

Speaker 4:
[142:30] I mean...

Speaker 5:
[142:33] The most depressing part, it was such a good week. We swept the Orioles and we needed that after we lost the fucking bullshit two-game series. And he went, fuck you. And Peyton Tolley gets called up. And his video of him, like his reaction video was the sweetest thing I'd ever seen. Eight strikeouts in his MLB debut.

Speaker 7:
[142:52] And we still lose the game because of fucking Greg Leister.

Speaker 1:
[142:59] It's what it feels like.

Speaker 3:
[143:00] It's a hard life, man. It's the same fucking game. Same game.

Speaker 2:
[143:06] It's getting a clean inning.

Speaker 3:
[143:07] To be that like mid, just very like seventh inning, low leverage arm, like it's a hard role, man. That's a hard one.

Speaker 2:
[143:16] But he's not like, he has been high leverage for you. He was high leverage for Italy. He was high leverage for you making the playoffs last year. He was nails down the stretch. He's such a frustrating pitcher because like his sweeper when it's on is disgusting. Like no one on the team, I think has like more break on their sweeper when it's on than why he's there. And then he's like gassing you up with 98 and it's like, all right, just do this all the time, man. Like what's your deal?

Speaker 3:
[143:39] That's just what separates him from being an actual.

Speaker 2:
[143:41] I know, no, I know. That's why it's frustrating to watch him. You'd almost wish his stuff sucked a little bit more. You'd almost understand it more.

Speaker 3:
[143:48] It's one of those things too, where like, if you look up his B ref, like you'd genuinely be shocked by his numbers in the last two years, you'd be like, what the fuck? How like, how does his line look like that? What do you think his ERA was last year, Jared?

Speaker 6:
[144:01] Weissert?

Speaker 3:
[144:02] Yep.

Speaker 6:
[144:05] I mean, I feel like it's probably in the threes because he was allowing everyone else's runs.

Speaker 2:
[144:10] Was it like a two, seven, two?

Speaker 3:
[144:13] Yep, with a three, 67 fit.

Speaker 2:
[144:15] So he pitched 90 times last year. So when he does have a fuck up, it's a blip on the radar.

Speaker 1:
[144:20] He's also giving up other people's runs.

Speaker 2:
[144:22] That's also true, yes.

Speaker 6:
[144:24] Well, I just fucking said.

Speaker 1:
[144:26] Oh, missed it. I agree.

Speaker 4:
[144:29] Thank you.

Speaker 6:
[144:32] Judge drives in a run. Ball gets booted in the outfield and they throw it around. I hate this team. 42 Yankees in the seventh. And then it says, yeah, fuck this team. No, no notes. Red Sox lose four to swept by the Yankees. Fall to nine and 16, nine and 16 on the year. That is the fucking notebook for the Red Sox getting swept by the New York Yankees in this April series, which may as well have, have answered all of our questions about whether or not this team, by the way, Hubs texted me before this series started. And he was like, this feels like the exact series where you guys sweep us, get hot, fix your season and go on a run. I was like, that is absolutely not happening.

Speaker 1:
[145:21] Hubs does not know ball. So that's stayed true.

Speaker 6:
[145:24] Like this was before a game was played in this series. Let me pull this up. This fucking idiot, this Jemoke.

Speaker 2:
[145:34] What do you sound like?

Speaker 6:
[145:36] I'll read you exactly what he said.

Speaker 8:
[145:38] He said, This has you guys sweeping and igniting your season, written all over it. Tonight won't be close. Heal is basically the worst pitcher in the league. Cooked as can be. If you don't hit Heal, then call of the year. He has nothing left.

Speaker 6:
[146:02] And I said, We genuinely cannot hit a baseball.

Speaker 8:
[146:06] And he said, Heal is your best possible scenario to get the bats hot. Worst fastball in the game.

Speaker 6:
[146:18] Yeah. So I disagreed. Yeah, I was like, We are very bad. We're not in a rut. We're just not good. And they got swept. They got swept. And that's that's the that's the motherfucking notebook for this series. God damn.

Speaker 2:
[146:41] It was nice to be able to root for Peyton totally. That was a nice.

Speaker 6:
[146:44] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[146:45] And Eduardo Rivera, like those two guys made me feel it was made me feel an hour or so.

Speaker 6:
[146:52] Yeah, we have like a good hour and a half where it was like, maybe we will win a ball game tonight.

Speaker 1:
[146:58] Maybe we get a ball game for a treat, you know, to yells by Peyton totally and they were well deserved.

Speaker 6:
[147:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[147:06] I mean, that was what? Ten innings of one run ball by those two fellows.

Speaker 1:
[147:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[147:14] To my cap.

Speaker 6:
[147:14] What more can you ask, you know? Anyways.

Speaker 7:
[147:22] Tactical nuke incoming! Stop and shop supermarkets have a major announcement. Don't, we repeat, don't shop for your groceries anywhere else.

Speaker 8:
[147:35] Yeah, stop and shop.

Speaker 5:
[147:36] Yeah, stop and shop.

Speaker 6:
[147:38] What's great about these tangerines, look how easy they peel.

Speaker 7:
[147:41] Just like that.

Speaker 6:
[147:42] And loaded. I mean loaded with nutritional value.

Speaker 7:
[147:45] Yeah, stop and shop. Double kill.

Speaker 9:
[147:54] What's better than having to stop and shop, getting it done for all of you?

Speaker 6:
[147:59] Let's stop and shop, look at here. Brought to you by Stop and Shop. Head on down to Stop and Shop right now. You get 10 cents off your tangerines when you buy at least five pounds of tangerines, only at Stop and Shop. And use the promo code Section 10. Red Sox are leaving Fenway Park, thank God. Thank God. I think that they need to get out of the city. They need to change the scenery. They need to plan a ballpark with different dimensions. Yeah, take that shit. Go to Pickles. Shout out to Pickles in Baltimore.

Speaker 1:
[148:27] I do love that place.

Speaker 6:
[148:28] They used to back it way back in the day. They had an ESPN zone in that.

Speaker 1:
[148:33] Yes, they did. It's right across the street.

Speaker 6:
[148:36] Yeah, they had an ESPN zone. There's like a harbor.

Speaker 1:
[148:39] You got Babe Ruth's birthplace right there. Yep.

Speaker 6:
[148:42] Yeah. Crackhead. Yeah. Edgar Allan Poe, I believe, died there. There's something for him.

Speaker 1:
[148:51] Sounds about right.

Speaker 6:
[148:52] Yep. And then by the harbor, they've got this cool like mall-ish area and there used to be, I don't know if there's still a California pizza kitchen was right there. Oh, Baltimore, CPK don't get no better than that. The Aquarium. Top notch. You got to hit that Baltimore Aquarium.

Speaker 1:
[149:13] Just stay in that tight area.

Speaker 4:
[149:15] Just stay near the harbor.

Speaker 6:
[149:17] Stay by the water.

Speaker 1:
[149:18] Maybe don't get an Airbnb that's a little further outside.

Speaker 6:
[149:21] Yeah, don't do that. Yeah. Stay nice and stay in that area. There's a nice holiday in across the street.

Speaker 4:
[149:27] Yeah. Keep it tight.

Speaker 6:
[149:28] Yeah. Keep it. It's a three game series against the Baltimore Orioles who are in the American League East. They've not gotten off to the greatest of starts, but it's greater than you because you're the fucking worst. That's why it's hard to judge that based on a Red Sox scale. The Orioles are 12 and 13 to start the year, but that's so much better than the fucking start that you've gotten on to. Red Sox are four and eight on the road this year. They've been outscored 63 to 50. It is Brian Baio versus Dean the Cream Machine Kramer. That game is at 7.05 on Friday. Garrett Crochet looking to get back on the wagon here, as they say, against Trevor Rogers. That's a 4.05 start on Saturday. And then in the finale, I feel like they've been trotting out the same rotation for nine years. Like, why do I feel like I've been doing a stop-and-shop look ahead with fucking Kyle Bradish as part of the look ahead on a train to New York?

Speaker 2:
[150:31] With Dean Cram.

Speaker 6:
[150:32] Every fucking time. Dean Cramer, Kyle Bradish, it's every fucking time. It's been that way for nine years. Connelly Early versus Kyle Bradish in the finale. That's a 135 start on Sunday, game one. Brian Baio, one and two, 675 ERA, 193 whip and a 6.3 strikeouts per nine. His cutter has a 57% whiff rate, but giving up a 294 batting average and a 471 slug. Same status the Yankee Series, but because he was pushed back, we had that on there. He's going up against Dean Cramer. That's 0-1, 409 ERA, 091 whip and a 13.1 strikeouts per nine. 16 strikeouts and 11 innings pitched this year, but also four home runs allowed. So keep an eye out for the long ball in game one. Garret Crochet, long ball, two and three, a 788 ERA, a 163 whip and an 11.3 strikeouts per nine. The velocity seems totally fine. Back up to where it was, back to normal. Hopefully a small mechanics fix can get him straight. He's going up against Trevor Rogers, who is two and two with a 408 ERA, a 133 whip and a 7.8 strikeouts per nine. An 838 ERA for Trevor Rogers in his last two starts, including three home runs and 15 hits. God damn, 15 hits in his last two starts. Game three, the finale is Connelly Early, who is one and one with a 288 ERA, a 132 whip and a 8.6 strikeouts per nine. He dominates left hand hitting this year thanks to his sinker and then the lefties OPS against him is 383, the sinker 111 batting average and slug. Damn, he be doing work against lefties and he's going up against Kyle Bradish, who's one and two with a 396 ERA, a 176 whip and a 10.1 strikeouts per nine. Bradish has allowed 44, 44 base runners in 25 innings, three walks in four of his five starts.

Speaker 1:
[153:20] Weather, look ahead. Brought to you by Billy's Gummy Bears. Chew them with your mouth, Cole.

Speaker 6:
[153:26] The?

Speaker 2:
[153:28] Why is T promoting a rival gummy bear brand? Do you think Mr. Bears isn't gonna maul you and tear you limb from limb, you piece of fucking shit?

Speaker 3:
[153:36] These are Billy's Gummy Bears. They actually share a factory with another company, and sometimes when they ship them out, they can be repackaged and corrected.

Speaker 1:
[153:44] The Red Sox head to one of my favorite ballparks in the country, an Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Game one, Friday, 7.05 Eastern, first pitch 72 degrees, Jared. Mostly sunny, 13% chance of rain, should be fine there. Six mile an hour winds. Game two, no, no, no, Saturday, 4:05 PM Eastern, first pitch 57 degrees. Nope, 57 degrees. Light showers in the forecast, though. Light showers in the forecast.

Speaker 6:
[154:11] Oh, Jesus Christ, Steve.

Speaker 1:
[154:13] I don't create rain.

Speaker 6:
[154:16] 61. What time is the weather? Sorry, Mikey, and 2K. What time is the rain gonna start?

Speaker 2:
[154:22] What time is the weather?

Speaker 6:
[154:23] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[154:24] What time is the weather, though?

Speaker 1:
[154:25] When is the weather gonna happen? I mean, it doesn't look awesome. It says showers like all night, but it's like 40 to 60% chance. Oh, This is Saturday night, by the way, so.

Speaker 6:
[154:37] The game's at four, though?

Speaker 1:
[154:38] Yeah. Game's at four, so I still get it in.

Speaker 6:
[154:42] Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[154:43] OK, 12 mile an hour winds. Game three, Sunday, 1:35 PM Eastern, first pitch, 52 degrees, cloudy. No, no, cloudy. Four percent chance of rain. Ten mile an hour winds. So game one, folks, for those keeping track, if you have stuck with us here, is easily the best weather of this series as it's in the mid to low fifties. As we move along there into Saturday and Sunday. Again, watch out for showers on Saturday. Keeping a close eye on that. Maybe a rain delay, maybe not. That is your weather look ahead. As always, brought to you by Billy's Gummy Bears. You chew them with your mouth.

Speaker 6:
[155:17] Mr. Bears, I feel like has been in a awful mood this year.

Speaker 2:
[155:23] Can you blame him?

Speaker 6:
[155:24] No.

Speaker 1:
[155:25] Yeah, it's rain, you know?

Speaker 6:
[155:27] How many times does he call you or is he kind of just like hands off with it?

Speaker 1:
[155:31] Oh, he's hands off with it. I wish you were like him in terms of how he approaches the weather look ahead.

Speaker 6:
[155:37] What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1:
[155:37] Wow. In terms of like, you know, letting me do it.

Speaker 6:
[155:40] I do let you do it. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:
[155:42] Yeah, no, you do.

Speaker 6:
[155:44] So then why did you say I don't?

Speaker 3:
[155:47] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[155:47] I was acting a little crazy. It's 1230. I was acting a little nuts.

Speaker 3:
[155:51] Yeah, it was funny.

Speaker 6:
[155:53] Yeah. How come how come on Tuesday you came to AMB, but you didn't hang out with the fellas?

Speaker 1:
[155:59] I was with my boy Brett. Had not seen Brett in quite some time. So what? I'm literally giving you the answer for why I wasn't with you guys.

Speaker 6:
[156:05] Yeah, it's a dumb answer.

Speaker 1:
[156:06] Don't care.

Speaker 6:
[156:07] It's a dumb answer.

Speaker 1:
[156:10] Tate.

Speaker 3:
[156:11] Why haven't you brought up our little hangout session? Who? What? Who? Who? You were with me, Jared. Oh, yeah. We bonded for an hour.

Speaker 6:
[156:21] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[156:22] You snuck up on me while I was in the room.

Speaker 6:
[156:23] Yeah, you're very killable.

Speaker 3:
[156:25] What does that mean?

Speaker 6:
[156:27] You're just naive. You just you have no situational or like surrounding awareness.

Speaker 1:
[156:33] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[156:34] Lock the fuck in.

Speaker 1:
[156:36] Yeah, one way to call it.

Speaker 2:
[156:37] So is the sniper.

Speaker 4:
[156:39] Right.

Speaker 6:
[156:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[156:41] I mean, like, why don't you want us meeting this Brett?

Speaker 4:
[156:44] Yeah, Brett's the man.

Speaker 1:
[156:45] Wait, when did I say that was bad? I said Brett's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[156:48] Brought him up with us. You could have brought him.

Speaker 1:
[156:49] I never want to like force the issue with the aura club thing. Like, I feel like I'm finally kind of in.

Speaker 2:
[156:55] That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1:
[156:56] And so I don't want to just be like, ah, let me invite everybody up here, you know?

Speaker 6:
[156:59] It was just Brett.

Speaker 2:
[157:00] I think that's fair.

Speaker 6:
[157:00] This guy, Brett.

Speaker 1:
[157:02] Yeah, Brett's the man. Brett's the man. I haven't seen him in a while.

Speaker 9:
[157:05] If he's the man, then what's the problem?

Speaker 6:
[157:06] Why couldn't we have met Brett?

Speaker 1:
[157:08] It's not really... Again, I'm just saying, I don't want to force the aura club thing. How are you forcing it? It's just nice to catch up with my friend.

Speaker 6:
[157:13] It's like my apartment.

Speaker 1:
[157:16] I know it is, but no, that's a true statement for those listening. He basically controls the whole place.

Speaker 6:
[157:21] I think that if I was just like... No one would have been like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Steve's fine, but not Brad.

Speaker 1:
[157:28] No, that's fair, that's fair. I mean, there's another part of it. You know I like roaming around trying to get different angles of stuff. The amount of wasted footage in this series that I have on my phone, my goodness.

Speaker 6:
[157:37] I'm sure you do, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[157:39] Lot of strikes, lot of swings, lot of foul balls.

Speaker 6:
[157:41] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[157:42] Is Brad the childhood friend?

Speaker 1:
[157:44] I know, I've known Brad for about five years. He's a BC boy.

Speaker 6:
[157:47] How the did you meet Brad while we've been friends?

Speaker 1:
[157:51] He invited me on his pod. And it was about Boston College basketball, and I was able to get that off my chest because I don't talk about that to anyone else but Brad.

Speaker 6:
[157:58] Okay, so he asked you if you want to come on his podcast and you said yes, and now you're friends?

Speaker 1:
[158:04] Yeah, we've been friends for about five, six years.

Speaker 4:
[158:06] Yeah. What?

Speaker 1:
[158:10] You're a loser. What is wrong with that?

Speaker 7:
[158:12] Oh my God.

Speaker 8:
[158:13] Holy shit.

Speaker 2:
[158:16] This is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6:
[158:18] Go in the bathroom.

Speaker 2:
[158:20] You can suck in Jared, a loser? How does that work?

Speaker 6:
[158:23] Yeah, go in the bathroom with fucking Brett and see. Hey. What? You want some too, asshole?

Speaker 2:
[158:30] No, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[158:31] Listen, Steve's a fucking idiot. I think he knows he messed up here. Hey, no, no, Steve, we're good. We're good, Steve. I'm helping you. Steve made a mistake and he's paying for that. And I think right now we're acknowledging that. And when he comes back, we're going to all be good and we're going to be happy.

Speaker 1:
[158:44] We're good.

Speaker 3:
[158:45] You know, that's it.

Speaker 1:
[158:46] Has anyone ever phrased it? Steve's a fucking moron. Hey, you agree with me. This is fine.

Speaker 2:
[158:52] Same page, same page.

Speaker 1:
[158:53] Dumbest guy I've ever met.

Speaker 9:
[158:54] No, no, this is a compliment.

Speaker 6:
[158:57] Back to you, Steve.

Speaker 1:
[158:59] No, it's just, why are you ripping my friendship with Brett? What's wrong with this?

Speaker 6:
[159:03] I just it's off putting.

Speaker 2:
[159:05] Seemed like you were hiding us. You were ashamed of us.

Speaker 6:
[159:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[159:07] No.

Speaker 6:
[159:08] Again, did you imagine the imagine, Steve, if like you, Mikey and Coley were up in the aura club and I was also at Fenway Park with my buddy Ted, doesn't work. You were like, you're like, hey, come hang out with us. I was like, nah, I'm with Ted tonight. You'd be like, what?

Speaker 1:
[159:27] Yeah. I'd be like, you catch up with a friend you haven't seen in a while.

Speaker 6:
[159:29] That's why I would bring him up 10 times out of 10.

Speaker 3:
[159:32] There was a time a few years ago where I was at Fenway and you guys were there and you didn't come and say hello to me.

Speaker 1:
[159:38] There we go. Good point, Steve.

Speaker 6:
[159:40] No, that's not true.

Speaker 2:
[159:41] But you're the Steve in this situation.

Speaker 4:
[159:43] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 6:
[159:45] You have to come to me. I told you we were the one over there.

Speaker 2:
[159:49] We have the numbers.

Speaker 4:
[159:50] No, no, I was sitting there.

Speaker 3:
[159:52] No, and I didn't know Jared and Steve very well at that point.

Speaker 6:
[159:55] Yes, you did. We were doing a podcast together.

Speaker 3:
[159:58] Me and you did, but we hadn't hung out and me and Steve weren't doing a podcast together at that time. That was pretty Section 10.

Speaker 1:
[160:03] I think we didn't like each other at that point.

Speaker 3:
[160:06] Beyond that, you guys took a picture of me and sent it to me and could see me.

Speaker 6:
[160:10] To let you know what direction to walk in.

Speaker 1:
[160:15] I'm glad you mentioned that because that just reminded me, right, that's what it's like when Tyler's at Fenway. It's such a rare sight. At that point, I think, oh, this kid's probably here all the time. He does hashtag Red Sox, hashtag dirty water. He is probably at hashtag Fenway Park frequently. That's one of three times I've maybe ever seen you there.

Speaker 3:
[160:32] Yeah, I'll be getting there in the next 10 days, I think.

Speaker 6:
[160:35] Maybe.

Speaker 3:
[160:35] I have an itching right now. I have an itching. Yes, I want to go.

Speaker 6:
[160:39] You have an itching.

Speaker 3:
[160:41] I do.

Speaker 2:
[160:41] Now is the time you want to see him?

Speaker 3:
[160:43] Yeah, I'm ready to go to the ballpark. Maybe I can turn the season around. Maybe I just got to show up.

Speaker 1:
[160:48] What's that itching? What the fuck are you watching? That's like I got to get to this park.

Speaker 2:
[160:52] I got to go see how immediately the ball goes off Dervin's bat into the dirt. They got to see it.

Speaker 1:
[160:57] Of all times they have an itching to go to A and B. This might be the last time.

Speaker 3:
[161:01] If Roman's in the line up, I'll be there.

Speaker 1:
[161:03] OK. All right.

Speaker 6:
[161:06] Prediction time, Coley?

Speaker 2:
[161:10] Listen, I'm worried about the torrential downpour that is coming Saturday. Watch out for the flood Baltimore. No, because I think we'll get in two on Sunday regardless. But I'm going classic sweep. Birds take all three.

Speaker 6:
[161:26] Wow. So this is a complete tailspin that you're forecasting.

Speaker 2:
[161:30] I mean, it's a six game losing streak, which they did suffer last year. Was that their longest last year, T?

Speaker 4:
[161:34] I think they did it twice.

Speaker 2:
[161:36] Yeah, they did it post-Devers immediately.

Speaker 4:
[161:39] You're right.

Speaker 2:
[161:39] They may have had another one. So this is kind of what they do.

Speaker 3:
[161:46] T? Yeah, they were eight and five against the O's last year, five and eight the year before. So I think they've kind of flipped the last two years in terms of killing birds. The first game, Brian Baio, Brandon Young. Give me Baio in that. The other two starts, I don't feel good. Trevor Rogers, who when his stuff's on, is one of the best lefties in baseball. I know we'll have Crochet and we'll keep the game tight, but I just don't believe your lineup can do anything against a quality left-hander. And then Early versus Bradish. I know he's had a slower start to the year. And weirdly, the O's bullpen has been a lot better than I think a lot of people thought, with their offense being disappointing. Give me two out of three, the first game and the third game. They barely squeak out the third game with early on the mound. But I can't pick a series loss right now or I might fall apart. So give me a series win.

Speaker 6:
[162:38] All right, then I'll do it for you. I'm going one out of three here. So we have every variation outside of a Red Sox sweep, Steve, if you want to be that guy.

Speaker 1:
[162:48] But yeah, I got a what do I have? I got two out of three. I think T already took that. Yeah. But I like Bayo on Friday. It's going to be 72 degrees. So it's not freezing anymore. He should enjoy that. He's got a 313 ERA at Baltimore, his second best ERA at any park where he's got at least four starts. We all know the best one's at Yankee Stadium with a 144. Feeling pretty good with Connolly early on the mound in the finale. Would love to get six. Maybe greedy get into the seventh inning there. That would be great. Would not be stunned if Pete Alonso hits a moon bomb. I know he had a stretch without one. I think he hit one a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a solo Johnson. That would be beautiful. So yeah, I got Sox in such a gorgeous park, winning two out of three.

Speaker 6:
[163:30] Yeah, it is a gorgeous park, isn't it?

Speaker 1:
[163:32] I'd love if the O's are wearing their City Connects. Those are great, too.

Speaker 6:
[163:34] They're not, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[163:35] I will say, like, your best chance right now, I think Durant is swinging it pretty good. I know he tweaked his stance again, T, or something. Like, he has to be an everyday player right now, at least for this series. He's giving you most of your offensive production right now.

Speaker 6:
[163:54] Okay. Final thoughts, T?

Speaker 3:
[163:59] Oh, yeah. Two quick prospect mentions. John Holobits brought home Eastern League Player of the Week this past week, had a great start, seven innings of one run ball, struck out 11 in that start, walked just one, and in his second run at AA, he's shoving. Three stars, 16 innings pitch, 113, near a 285, 12.9 K per nine. I don't think a promotion to Worcester is far off for him. And while the secondary stuff doesn't really jump off to you, he has a fastball that the models love, and that just simply performs really well. So when we're talking about starting options, I feel like he's a name we'll have in the Worcester mix sooner rather than later. And then Franklin Arias, you have to talk about what he's doing right now, because to Homer for the sixth time in seven games, and for a guy who had eight homers in 116 games last year, we're talking about someone who is going to be top 20 prospect in the sport at this rate. This kind of power surge, I don't even think of people's wildest dreams, it was going to look anything like this. And even like Baseball America has been putting out some clips the last couple of days, just not only the added muscle, but where he's just angling the ball and getting out in front of the ball. He knows what he's doing when he's looking for these homers. He's developed that feel and I think for him, and we're talking Trevor Storey, Marcel Meyer, he's going to be part of that equation by the end of the year and they're going to have to make some real hard decisions.

Speaker 2:
[165:21] He's not rule five eligible, is he? No.

Speaker 3:
[165:23] No, he's only 20, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[165:25] Yeah. So I don't know if they will rush him, even if he is tearing the cover off the ball. Because at that point, if it's a lost season, why are you just adding him to a 40 men right before a lockout?

Speaker 3:
[165:34] I bet he gets up to Worcester by like June and then like, he'll get three months up there and then it will be one of those things where it's like, do you give him the Willier Abreu, the Sedan Rafael, the Tristan Casas? You want to come down for the last 10 days, we'll get you a couple of bats, hang around? Maybe.

Speaker 2:
[165:49] If there wasn't a looming lockout, I think they really have to factor that in. Why are we just adding him to the 40?

Speaker 3:
[165:58] It's a fair point.

Speaker 2:
[165:58] We don't even know what it's going to look like on the other. So there's just no rush to do it no matter how. Now, if it's like a playoff run and he's still tearing the cover off the ball in Worcester, we also don't know what the swing is going to look like in Worcester. Not that he deserves any doubt right now. But I don't know. I feel like they really would be panning. I don't know why in a lost season you would burn that spot.

Speaker 3:
[166:20] Yeah. In my head, it's like they sell some major pieces at the trade deadline.

Speaker 2:
[166:25] You have a bunch of spots open?

Speaker 3:
[166:27] Yeah. It's more like we're running out the string. We know we're entering a new era here. Go get your feet wet.

Speaker 2:
[166:32] That could be.

Speaker 3:
[166:33] Maybe.

Speaker 2:
[166:33] That could certainly be.

Speaker 3:
[166:35] Oh, and Juan Valera, I know last episode, we wanted to act like it was good news. He had to get an MRI. We really haven't heard anything since then.

Speaker 4:
[166:42] So, not good.

Speaker 3:
[166:45] Steven?

Speaker 1:
[166:48] Yeah, a little update on being out by the bullpen for Kam Schlitler's much anticipated warmup. No one said anything. Literally, nobody out there chirped anything. I was listening very closely for any kind of chirps. Nothing burger like you read about. Sox Security was there to try to keep the scene safe. They know I'm obviously Stevie bullpen cams, so let me get my shot there and...

Speaker 5:
[167:14] They'll be digging his pockets and they let me grab his butt and do whatever I wanted over there.

Speaker 1:
[167:20] So, it was really good. I got to pick his ear. It was really nice, but no one said anything. It's going to be bad. They're going to throw stuff at me, try to grab me. Nope, none of that happened. There was more chirping when Jacob Mizorowski was warming up for the Brewers. So, just to give a little insight there, but I should stop talking because we can't talk about it. Oh my God, we can't talk about him. Then lastly, we put it on the socials, but I cannot believe that they had that 27 championships plate. It's just so, so bad to be selling a 27 championships plate. I did all the research I could on the dude that sent it to us in the DMs, just to make sure this isn't like some undercover Yankee fan. It's like trying to troll us and it's an AI or something. We obviously got to pay much more attention to that now than stuff we used to get sent eight, nine years ago that we just knew was real, but 100% real. The dude actually then went back to the team store about 20 minutes after we had posted it and it was like they took it down. He showed a photo of that spot and it had like the tape and the outline of a plate. And it's like, they might have seen the tweet and been like, why the hell did we have this up in the first place? But shout out to Mutt, by the way, he did some research on this and found out those plates cost $35 each. So for a grand total of $70, the Red Sox are completely fine with ruining their image with what they're selling in the team store. That's, love to see that.

Speaker 6:
[168:39] That's really bad.

Speaker 1:
[168:40] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[168:44] Yeah, we had some fucking banger tweets this series. The team store tweet did 1.6 million views. The Kam Schlitler bullpen video did 1.9 million views. And then the video of me and Coley on the field on Tuesday.

Speaker 2:
[169:15] Scary scene.

Speaker 1:
[169:17] That surprised you with us.

Speaker 6:
[169:19] That did 1.3 million views. Yeah, so I mean, fuck, you know, shit. that shit.

Speaker 1:
[169:30] That's some shit.

Speaker 6:
[169:32] Also, shout out to Mikey. Cooked up the Jordan's furniture video that we put out today. Mint. Fucking mint, Mikey. Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[169:45] It's perfect. Thank you.

Speaker 6:
[169:49] Fucking mint.

Speaker 4:
[169:52] Brayish.

Speaker 6:
[169:53] I know Jordan's was happy about it.

Speaker 4:
[169:57] Great fit. Wally got Wally in the cut.

Speaker 2:
[169:59] Shout out Wally.

Speaker 6:
[170:01] Yeah, Walter was just ready to go, you know? Zuko, you got a final thought?

Speaker 3:
[170:16] Yeah, you guys really had me fooled when we were wrapping the show five minutes in.

Speaker 1:
[170:24] Just a show of ads.

Speaker 3:
[170:26] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[170:27] Mikey, you got anything?

Speaker 10:
[170:30] I do, actually.

Speaker 3:
[170:30] Well.

Speaker 10:
[170:32] A name to keep an eye on. He's in high school, Bishop Fiens, Brody Bumilla. He pitched today against my Taunton High Tigers. He threw five perfect innings, striking out 12. To lead Bishop Fien, three nothing over my Taunton High Tigers. Tough to see, but he's going to Texas. Get this kid to Fenway. And if not, just make sure he doesn't go to the Yankees like Schlitler, another local guy going to the Yankees. Just please don't have that. But this kid's going to be a player. Brody Bumilla.

Speaker 3:
[171:01] Something special. He's currently mocked to go one pick after the Red Sox in the first round.

Speaker 1:
[171:05] Wow. Love that name, Brody Bumilla.

Speaker 2:
[171:10] Yeah, when we had Ian on last week on Down on the Farm, he seemed to make it sound like he's going to be a top 10.

Speaker 6:
[171:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[171:17] When he brought that up, I was like, fuck, we really aren't even going to get a shot at him. Because if you're talking big lefty, ridiculous arm, like extension, all that, he is Craig Breslau's type.

Speaker 6:
[171:28] Where can you listen to that show, Coley?

Speaker 2:
[171:32] patreon.com/section10podcast. We will have another one this upcoming week. We're going to clean 40 coming out tomorrow. So we're buzzing over there. If you want those Piglet shirts, I saw Mikey tweeting it out again today. That's at section10merch.com. Peyton Tolley, Back in Our Lives, is good for all of us. It's good for the soul. But I'm watching this power outage, Jerry, and I'm watching these other games around the league, just to remember what it's like to watch good, clean baseball. You know what I mean? Just to restore that feeling. So I throw on Braves Nationals, as I'm one to do, and what do I see one pitch into the fucking game, Jared? One pitch, first pitch of a guy's life gets deposited into the right field seats by one Mr. James Wood. I said, Hime, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 6:
[172:22] He's leading the league in homers right now.

Speaker 2:
[172:25] He's leading everything. He's the best player in the sport.

Speaker 6:
[172:30] Yeah, and strikeouts, but like, whatever.

Speaker 2:
[172:33] So fucking what? We do that, too. We don't hit home runs and score runs.

Speaker 6:
[172:37] I don't care.

Speaker 2:
[172:38] Get on base.

Speaker 6:
[172:39] I don't care. T?

Speaker 3:
[172:44] I had a point.

Speaker 4:
[172:45] I know you did. That's why I called on you.

Speaker 3:
[172:48] Coley was talking.

Speaker 4:
[172:49] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[172:49] Oh, how'd your Ask Me Anything go?

Speaker 4:
[172:53] Who?

Speaker 2:
[172:54] It's tomorrow.

Speaker 3:
[172:55] Oh, that wasn't today. Oh, today's Thursday. I keep thinking today's Friday.

Speaker 2:
[172:58] Well, it is Friday now.

Speaker 3:
[173:00] Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[173:01] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[173:02] Hey, hey, that was on me.

Speaker 2:
[173:05] Jury's got to look for 430 a.m., so it's soon.

Speaker 3:
[173:08] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[173:08] It's coming up.

Speaker 6:
[173:09] It's coming up.

Speaker 3:
[173:09] Right after the day before the pod's up.

Speaker 6:
[173:12] Yeah, I'm going to do the Patreon AMA on Friday. What the fuck do people give a shit about what I have to say about anything? Were you going to ask me?

Speaker 3:
[173:20] It's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[173:20] No, you're right. Shut down the show.

Speaker 6:
[173:22] Facts.

Speaker 3:
[173:23] It's a lot of fun. I am so high on it. Eamon had a blast, too.

Speaker 2:
[173:29] I had a great time.

Speaker 3:
[173:30] You did it before or did I make that up?

Speaker 2:
[173:33] I just hopped in there and was just answering questions all over the place when we first opened the Patreon.

Speaker 3:
[173:38] It will be the fastest hour of your life, Jared.

Speaker 6:
[173:40] I mean, I've done AMAs on Red Sox Reddit and Baseball Reddit.

Speaker 3:
[173:49] It's a good time. This one feels a little faster back and forth, but I've never been the one answering questions. I only sit in them on BA when Spear does them or whatever.

Speaker 6:
[173:57] Yeah, I did the the baseball one sucked. It was just a bunch of people being like, fuck you for supporting sports bedding. I'm like, what? Like, what is going on? OK, all right, see you later. Oh, yeah, yeah, I was like, I don't have to do this if you guys don't want me. Like, I'd rather not.

Speaker 2:
[174:20] It's called Ask Me Anything, not yell things at me.

Speaker 1:
[174:23] Yeah, yell anything at me.

Speaker 2:
[174:25] Yeah, you're taking some adibles.

Speaker 6:
[174:26] He's promoting a competitor.

Speaker 3:
[174:29] These are Billy's.

Speaker 6:
[174:30] You would think that you would hope that.

Speaker 3:
[174:33] I would know that.

Speaker 4:
[174:34] OK, Sam.

Speaker 6:
[174:37] All right. patreon.com/section10podcast. I'm doing an AMA on Friday, and we've got Clean 40 coming out. And so people were asking about some of the merch related perks that have to do with the Patreon. We should have all those answers on Monday. And I also said to the guys, I was like, I want to put our heads together to come up with ideas to add even more benefits to the Patreon. Yeah. Just want to make sure that it's the best possible experience that anybody could have.

Speaker 8:
[175:24] The best experience that I ever had.

Speaker 6:
[175:26] That's what I want people to be saying about the Patreon. So, all right. Ba-doop-doop-doop.

Speaker 9:
[175:36] Buenos noches, amigos.