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Speaker 3:
[01:25] I Want To Be Famous.
Speaker 1:
[01:27] Welcome to Who Weekly, the podcast where you'll learn everything you need to know about the celebrities you don't. I'm Bobby Finger.
Speaker 2:
[01:31] I'm Lindsey Weber.
Speaker 1:
[01:32] And this is Law Roach at Luxury Law on Twitter, part one, April 20th, 2026. Dear at Delta, I'm Delta 360 and a million miler. This morning, I paid for a Delta 1 seat from NYC to LA, and when I got on the plane, it was not a lay flat seat. I was very disappointed.
Speaker 2:
[01:50] You know what I don't like about that? There's no action item. I'm like, if you're going to complain like this about an airline in the year 2026 on what is arguably a dead platform, you got to have an action item. What are they supposed to do for you? What do you want? How can we move forward on this one, Mr. Roach? I feel very like, you know what I mean, as a famous person or as a notable person, you got to give them a thing to do. I mean, clearly, they DM him and then they fix it because that's the point of it.
Speaker 1:
[02:18] I think not saying what you want or what you deserve is a flex because I think the implication is, you know that this was wrong and I know that you know that you're going to do something to rectify the situation.
Speaker 2:
[02:30] Of course, no, of course.
Speaker 1:
[02:31] Because cut to one day later and he retweeted his own tweet and said, just got the sweetest message from at Delta.
Speaker 2:
[02:39] Yeah, because they probably were like, we'll give you like free layback seats for the rest of your life or like, whatever it is that they did to like remedy this issue.
Speaker 1:
[02:48] They def gave him like 200,000 miles. They gave him like miles. For some reason, the Delta subreddit has attacked me. So I like knee deep in the Delta subreddit just because I kind of like reading about psychos who were talking about Delta all the time. These are like true million milers who were always like laying flat. And when you complain, they're like, how much Delta bucks did you get? Because that's usually what you get in response for a complaint, like more miles. Anyway, he said, thank you for your continued amazing customer service. This is why I stay so loyal. Now while I have you, can we talk about me redesigning the flight attendant uniforms? Winky face.
Speaker 2:
[03:24] Um, okay, you're trying to get more money from Delta. I would say for Law Roach, it's like kind of part of the package. It's like we're familiar. Like this doesn't really like differ from kind of the normal way that we see Law Roach, right? This is what we expect. I just am kind of like, as a celebrity, I do feel that you cannot be tweeting about airlines anymore. That's really not chic, you know? You should be powerful enough to like get what you need by not publicly complaining.
Speaker 1:
[03:55] Just calling.
Speaker 2:
[03:56] Or like going through your people or going through their people or, you know, I just, I, I feel like those days have passed. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:
[04:03] Yeah. If you are at that status level of Delta, you have access to like customer service. It's probably pretty easy. And like talking to a human pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:
[04:11] Right, right.
Speaker 1:
[04:13] I think this is truly, Courtney Love is in dire need of attention right now. I think this is really just.
Speaker 2:
[04:18] I kind of think so.
Speaker 1:
[04:20] He just wanted a press cycle. He's too smart.
Speaker 2:
[04:23] I wrote this question at the top. If you were very famous, what would it take you to tweet about, tweet an airline publicly? I kind of am like nothing. I would never do that. I would not be tweeting about airlines publicly. Sorry. There's no amount of miles that would get me to do that if I was actually rich and famous. We're talking about a behavior that used to be quite popular for actually notable people to be doing, which is like complain on Twitter and see if they could get a response or whatever. For me, it's a no. For me, we're going behind the scenes. For me, my power needs to be flexed in other ways if I want to get this seat. Because it's like when I got on the plane, it wasn't a seat. Well, it's too late to fix that problem. It's not like we're stuck in Dallas. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:
[05:03] Yeah. If I'm in the position to be taking Delta 1 all the time and a million miler, that means that I'm super rich and super famous. I'm not tweeting, period.
Speaker 2:
[05:13] Exactly.
Speaker 1:
[05:14] I'm never looking at phone.
Speaker 2:
[05:17] Exactly. I'm just trying to put it to context of the year we're in and where we're at in terms of Twitter and all of that.
Speaker 1:
[05:23] But I think this is what he's doing. He wanted some funny headlines, he wanted some retweets, and he wanted some attention, and he got it. The flight attendant uniform button at the end really seals the deal.
Speaker 2:
[05:33] You know what? It's on brand for him. This is on brand for him. And it's in the at name, Luxury Law. He's also flexing, I'm a million miler. That's also kind of part of this flex. Notice, they didn't reply, they just handled it privately, and then he had to reply and say, this was handled privately. Do you think they were like, well, you're going to have to retweet and say that we fixed it, right? And he was probably like, yeah, add on another 100,000 miles, and I will.
Speaker 1:
[05:58] I'm sure a version of that happened, even if Law wasn't involved in the conversation and his publicist was, or manager.
Speaker 2:
[06:05] I do think that Law is the kind of celeb, though, that probably does more himself than you'd imagine, because I think that he's more of like a scrappy personality, where he exudes luxury, but maybe doesn't have so many people working for him in that way, just because he's probably like, I'm going to spend my money on me, not on anybody else. I find him to be more like practical about that and the longevity of his career, but maybe he is emailing being like, on behalf of Law's 12th assistant, you know, secretly, but it's like, it's him, you know?
Speaker 1:
[06:34] Okay. You're listening to Who's There, a weekly call, unsure what we take your questions, comments and concerns at 619 who then, no one actually called about Unwell, this Bloomberg thing. Do you want to just talk about it since we did fucking read it or save it for Tuesday?
Speaker 2:
[06:46] I'd rather do the update on the update day, which is technically Friday. You know what I mean? No one called with an update, but I do feel it's important to update the Alex Cooper, Alex Earl, Unwell drama. Either something's happening here, either Alex Earl's people are like getting to work, although I don't even know if they have this power, or Alex Earl's complaints and unrest are being backed up by the fact that at Alex Cooper's company, Unwell, there is actual unrest.
Speaker 1:
[07:18] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[07:19] Right?
Speaker 1:
[07:20] I mean, yes, but the thing that I'm struggling with after reading this piece is I don't necessarily think that the Alex Earl versus Alex Cooper thing has anything to do with this. I think typically if a big pseudo expose drops about a celebrity and they've been acting bizarrely in the weeks leading up to that expose, then those two things are connected. But I don't know that that's the case here. Because I think that this is more of a takedown of her husband than her. She's not even an entity in the story. She's not responding to comments. She's out of the office. There's really nothing about Alex Earl either. They tease some sort of issue with Alex Earl's podcast leaving the network, but they don't really give any additional data. It doesn't necessarily make Alex Cooper look that bad. It makes her husband look bad, which I guess by association could make her look bad. But I don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 2:
[08:14] Sorry. You haven't even mentioned what the story was about.
Speaker 1:
[08:18] The story is about, it's written by Bloomberg. It's like an exclusive. It goes into anonymous reports from employees at Unwell Media, the company co-owned by Alex and her husband, Matt Kaplan, who is a former movie producer, his best known. I think we talked about him when they got married. He's best known for producing To All The Boys I Loved Before. It was his idea to go to Netflix with the first movie. It was made but it didn't have distribution and he pushed it through Netflix, gets sold, it becomes a huge deal. Then he produces the follow-ups and then becomes a successful producer, in large part based on his prowess with regards to that franchise. So he's married to Alex Cooper. They start Unwell. They acquire a lot of podcasts. They start a lot of podcasts. Apparently, there's trouble behind the scenes and he has a huge temper and he's constantly yelling at people to the extent that people are quitting. It made it into that Call Me Alex documentary. This was an interesting part. There's a part in Call Me Alex or Call Her Alex, the Hulu documentary about her.
Speaker 2:
[09:14] Call Her Alex.
Speaker 1:
[09:16] Call Her Alex where someone quits and in the context of the movie, it is explained away by the person who quit being overwhelmed by work, but then a source told the person who wrote this piece that it was actually because Matt Kaplan is constantly yelling people and making people's lives miserable and unwell.
Speaker 2:
[09:32] Yeah. I mean, this is all like alleged reporting. I saw that clip. The person, it was like about the tour being so stressful. The person kind of drops out of the tour. Kind of adds to the drama of the show. I thought it was kind of for the drama, to be honest with you. So, but someone had sent demois like a blind item. It wasn't even blind. Actually, a very visible item.
Speaker 1:
[09:55] It looks like Melissa sent it to herself.
Speaker 2:
[09:58] I want to know if you've got any insider info about this unwell network article. Can they spill it? Because Bloomberg article is just the tip of the iceberg is what I hear in LA. This person heard more gossip but doesn't want to share. Give me a break.
Speaker 1:
[10:10] No, I think this is bullshit. This is very like the call is coming from inside the Melissa.
Speaker 2:
[10:14] This is very like Alex Earl typing on the computer. Did you hear about this drama? There's drama.
Speaker 1:
[10:19] It's weird to me that when I saw this de moire call for more gossip, and it sounds like I'm defending Alex Cooper here, I'm not. I'm just like, I just read this expose. It has all this anonymous information. It has all these alleged inside sources and employees and former employees. Yet there wasn't anything super damning. The guy is apparently mean and yells, and the business isn't doing so great. They talk about how Call Her Daddy has so many listeners and all their other podcasts, and they have much, much fewer listeners. I'm just like, this piece, which was good, I'm glad I read it, would have implied bigger issues if there were bigger issues. And maybe I'm putting too much trust in this piece, and maybe I'm being naive. I'm just sort of like, I don't see it here.
Speaker 2:
[11:03] Yeah, right. That's the thing where it's like, it's very, one of those things where, obviously, you don't want people to be yelling at work, but there's nothing actually illegal about kind of being a bad boss or being a mean boss or whatever. And also, oldest story in the book is like, the husband comes over as manager and becomes terrible, which is actually what happened between Alex Cooper and Sophia, the original Call Her Daddy Girl, remember?
Speaker 1:
[11:30] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[11:31] The boyfriend that took over.
Speaker 1:
[11:33] Sophie with a whatever?
Speaker 2:
[11:34] Sophie with a P, with an F. Sophia with an F. Her boyfriend came and took over and was terrible, and that helped split them up. There's always that element of a man getting involved and kind of... Yeah, with an F. Franklin with an F. So then this latest update, because apparently we're still following this news, I'm kind of out now, but Alex Cooper husband skipped team meeting after behavior complaints.
Speaker 1:
[11:59] They had it all hands that they didn't show up to.
Speaker 2:
[12:02] There's definitely a... What's funny is there's a mall. There's a really good mall happening here where this mama is just calling Bloomberg after everything that happens or whatever. I mean, she basically has installed what is a bug in the office, I think. And so she was just like, we had a meeting and they weren't there.
Speaker 1:
[12:17] Yeah. I mean, it sounds like it's a bad working environment, but this DuMoi thing pissed me off because it was like, I'm hearing the Bloomberg article is the tip of the iceberg. And I think there is maybe nothing more frustrating in the gossip landscape than saying to DuMoi, I have gossip and I'm not going to tell you about it, but other people should. And then DuMoi posting that declaration. That sucks.
Speaker 2:
[12:36] Sorry, but if it's so pagated, mama didn't read the article, she just read the headline and said, that's the tip of the iceberg. And it's like, yeah, that's what the headline is. The rest of the iceberg is the article. Gotta read the article.
Speaker 1:
[12:47] The aggregation was the tip.
Speaker 2:
[12:49] It's kind of how articles work. Okay, anyways, we don't really know how articles work anymore. Let's take one more comment.
Speaker 1:
[12:55] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[12:57] Bobby, Lindsey, Timmy, Reid, Victor, Christina, Jeremy, I'm here for the montage because Buzz Aldrin was on season 10 and he plays tense of Dancing With The Stars. Maybe, what I say, on a technicality, he would have been on it in the 1960s, but Buzz Aldrin did do Dancing With The Stars. And Neil Armstrong was a touristy private, so I feel like, unlikely, but maybe we can get Buzz Aldrin to do it again, because apparently he's still alive. Anyway, Crunch Crunch, Bobby Lindsey Timmy, Reid Victor, Chris McIean.
Speaker 2:
[13:40] It's very us to be naming someone who should be on Dancing With The Stars, and they've already been on Dancing With The Stars. I mean, it really is like, go to school, you know? We really should have gone to school on that, and said, wow, if we think that Buzz Aldrin should be on Dancing With The Stars, there's a very good possibility that he was already on Dancing With The Stars.
Speaker 1:
[13:59] That he was eliminated second in the season, Nicole Scherzinger won.
Speaker 2:
[14:04] A long time ago.
Speaker 1:
[14:05] 2010.
Speaker 2:
[14:06] I think it's time for him to come back. I think it's time for him to come back.
Speaker 1:
[14:09] 2010. The Wikipedia chart for this season is really funny, because it says, the celebrity, the order with which they were eliminated, and then their job. So it says, eliminated first, Shannon Doherty, film and television actress, eliminated second, Buzz Aldrin, Apollo 11 astronaut.
Speaker 2:
[14:26] That's all you need to read.
Speaker 1:
[14:27] That's all I need.
Speaker 2:
[14:28] Timmy and I were having a discussion. I don't know if you saw, you were busy celebrating your birthday. Happy birthday, by the way.
Speaker 1:
[14:33] Thank you.
Speaker 2:
[14:34] Now Bobby's 40, welcome. We were talking about how they announced the first two Dancing With The Star hires. I don't know why they hires, castings or whatever. And it is the most obvious, boring two people. Obviously it's Sierra from Summer House, right? And-
Speaker 1:
[14:52] Maura, right?
Speaker 2:
[14:53] Yes, Maura from Love Island. And what do these two people actually have in common? That's right, they've both been on Traders. So Timmy was like, it's crazy that they're like double dipping on this. And it's an interesting thing because both of those shows live off the notoriety of people on other shows, but then it's a snake eating its own tail when they become the shows that they're the notoriety on. But my argument was that Sierra was on Traders before her notoriety actually happened. It's kind of crazy. She was cast on Traders just randomly. You know what I mean? Traders can make a celebrity. And I don't think Dancing With The Stars can really make a celebrity at this point. I think they're coasting off people's existing celebrity status. Demi argued and said that last season Robert Irwin really became famous because of that. And now they're making him the host of the Dancing With The Stars spinoff. And I agree with him. I think he did go from one thing to another thing, especially in America, by being on that show. But normally, Traders can make people. And I don't think Dancing With The Stars is in the business of upping somebody's celebrity quotient. I think they can extend it.
Speaker 1:
[15:53] They extend it, and they also are good for eyeballs and influencer careers, just because they give you.
Speaker 2:
[16:00] For sure.
Speaker 1:
[16:01] That's kind of it, which is such a basic observation, but that kind of is all the currency is these days.
Speaker 2:
[16:06] What about for us? What about the culture? Do you know what I mean? I understand for them.
Speaker 1:
[16:10] But yeah, in terms of careers, I think that Robert Irwin getting this hosting gig because of Dancing With The Stars makes him a bit of an outlier. I don't think that really happens that much.
Speaker 2:
[16:19] No, I agree.
Speaker 1:
[16:19] He already hosted stuff, and he already was like an Irwin, the child of a host.
Speaker 2:
[16:25] But he did host stuff abroad. So this is maybe his, this is his American, this was his big American breakout because I do feel like we overindexed him because of our show and because we were already obsessed with Bindi Irwin and the legacy of the Irwins. But he did have a breakout moment in the US culture with winning Dancing With The Stars.
Speaker 1:
[16:46] I'm less impressed by Robert Irwin getting that hosting gig because it's him remaining in this DWTS ecosystem. Like it's still he's in the biodome.
Speaker 2:
[16:55] Which you don't care about. But if he hosted the Traders all of a sudden, you'd be screaming, you'd be yelling, you'd be scratching your own eyes out. Yeah. Because that show is important to you. I'm just trying to set what these different shows do for these washed up celebs, kind of like, like what is the purpose of them? And they feel like if they're casting the same types of people, but they have very different outcomes. And it's interesting that they're double dipping on Dancing With The Stars. For sure. Because I wonder if Dancing With The Stars is like, no, we actually provide a different service for this type of star. We're actually doing a different type of laundering with their fame. We're making them heartwarming or something.
Speaker 1:
[17:31] And the people probably like doing it, even though it's not as cool as Traders and not as buzzy as Traders, it's inspiring. It gives them a new audience. Like my mom doesn't watch Dancing With The Stars, but if my mom did, she's more likely to watch Dancing With The Stars than Traders. She doesn't watch either, but she would say, that's Ciara, that's Maura, so charming.
Speaker 2:
[17:52] Well, I think it's more charming and inspiring when like Buzz Aldrin does it though than Maura. I'm like, okay, so this like beautiful young woman is going to be a good dancer, duh, Buzz Aldrin, I want to see his ass tango. I'm like that, I'm really amazed that he's a good dancer.
Speaker 1:
[18:08] Okay, let's move on. I still don't think Neil Armstrong would have done it at all. Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:
[18:14] No, he definitely wouldn't have if we stand behind that. It's like Ringo and Paul McCartney, you know? Ringo would do it.
Speaker 1:
[18:20] The only person who wouldn't do it is like John Lennon.
Speaker 2:
[18:24] Sorry, I didn't mean to bring this up again. Okay, next call.
Speaker 3:
[18:26] I want to be famous.
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Speaker 5:
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Speaker 6:
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Speaker 1:
[20:10] I'm still using my blender that I got on Wayfair all the time. I'm using my food processor.
Speaker 2:
[20:15] What are you making?
Speaker 1:
[20:16] Smoothies. You know what I made recently in my blender? Actually, just last night, a great Alice Legle recipe that I make a lot. It's like a lemon ricotta pasta thing where you blend the ricotta with some pasta water and lemon and it's a perfect little sauce. So quick, right in my Vitamix.
Speaker 2:
[20:30] Okay, yum.
Speaker 1:
[20:31] I actually should go back to Wayfair because I need some blanket storage because it's getting hot. So I need a trunk-like object in which to put my blankets and big quilts.
Speaker 2:
[20:44] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[20:44] I'll find it on Wayfair.
Speaker 2:
[20:46] A trunk-like object.
Speaker 1:
[20:47] What have you been using from Wayfair lately?
Speaker 2:
[20:49] Well, my shoe storage obviously is crucial. It's crucial to my life is the shoe storage because I keep buying new shoes and thank God I have storage for them. It goes right up on the wall and it stands in my way and I barely see it and it's iconic.
Speaker 1:
[21:02] What I like about it is that it's magic. I can't even tell that there are shoes in there. It just looks like a beautiful piece of decor.
Speaker 2:
[21:08] It's metal, it has little holes in it so like the smells get out.
Speaker 1:
[21:11] Yeah, that's great. It's perfectly designed.
Speaker 2:
[21:13] It's perfectly designed.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 8:
[21:40] I Want To Be Famous.
Speaker 9:
[21:42] I just got a push alert that Natasha Lyonne was removed from a plane for strange behavior.
Speaker 8:
[21:50] I don't want to click it.
Speaker 9:
[21:53] Could you please explain?
Speaker 8:
[21:55] Thank you.
Speaker 2:
[21:56] She was like, I'm a million miler. I'm lying flat. And they're like, ma'am, you're in coach. Ma'am, you're in steerage.
Speaker 1:
[22:04] Will the lifeboats be sorted according to class?
Speaker 2:
[22:08] She's like, I should be lying down. They're like, ma'am, you're on spirit. We don't have lay down flat.
Speaker 1:
[22:14] Ma'am, this is a spirit.
Speaker 2:
[22:16] Ma'am, you're actually not on a flight. You're on a boat.
Speaker 1:
[22:18] Ma'am, please shove yourself into the overhead compartment. You paid for the super safer fare.
Speaker 2:
[22:24] You're on a Chinatown bus and you're going from Boston to New York. She's like, damn it. I knew they booked me to Cheapies. Sorry. Whatever's going on, I don't know. But I will say Natasha Lyonne being one of the wordiest, birdiest girls, she is always in a post-along.
Speaker 1:
[22:43] That's a good one.
Speaker 2:
[22:44] The wordiest birdie. She's a wordy birdie. Yeah, she is. She's daffy. I don't know. What's the word I'm going for here? You know what I mean? She's an eccentric. She's one of a kind.
Speaker 1:
[22:56] And she's also verbose.
Speaker 2:
[22:58] Oh, that's more also what I'm saying. She's also going to post the longest response that makes no sense to being kicked off the plane. So they're like, reporting comes out that she was being kooky mama. I'm a little bit like I'm in the plane. I'm going, she's kooky mama. You guys, she's just a kooky mama.
Speaker 1:
[23:15] You're in steerage being like, excuse me, that's Natasha Lyonne. That's just her. They're like, ma'am, get back in your overhead compartment.
Speaker 2:
[23:22] I understand that there could be something else going on, but I could be a character witness because I show up and I'm like, you guys, this is just her vibe, you know? We've been trying to figure it out for years. She's kooky as hell.
Speaker 1:
[23:34] This is just her vibe, ma'am.
Speaker 2:
[23:37] Okay, so she's on this flight. They're like, ma'am, put away your laptop. We're taking off. She's like, what? Whatever, she's ignoring. They're like, okay, we're taking off the plane. Whatever it is.
Speaker 1:
[23:46] They told her to put her laptop away and also put her seatbelt on.
Speaker 2:
[23:49] And she didn't respond.
Speaker 1:
[23:51] Didn't respond, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[23:52] The funniest addition was the actress was seen wearing the same stockings and sunglasses she donned on the red carpet but added a coat. It's like, okay, so she wore the same sunglasses from the previous night? Who cares? So what? Who cares? Don't give me that. You know what I mean? They're acting like she slept in the clothes.
Speaker 1:
[24:08] Yeah, that's kind of what they're trying to apply, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[24:11] She didn't wear the euphoria premiere look onto the plane. At one point, she even appeared startled by the staff's inquiries by saying, ah, you scared me. I could totally hear that in her voice.
Speaker 1:
[24:21] Ah, you scared me.
Speaker 2:
[24:22] Ah, you scared me. Okay. Anyways, they take her off, blah, blah. This gets reported by, you know, page six and the like, right? She puts out a statement that I would argue does not help her case.
Speaker 1:
[24:33] I understand it, though. Like, I think this was embarrassing. I think this was probably very embarrassing for her because it was TMZ embarrassing TMZ. It was pH six embarrassing page six. And it implies a lot of things without being super explicit. It's like, you do the math, like you try to figure out what happened.
Speaker 2:
[24:49] Well, they're implying things because more recently she has substance abuse issues. She was like, I did relapse. I'm okay now. I'm getting it together. Like they're doing inferring into things that they know that we know, right?
Speaker 1:
[25:02] Right.
Speaker 2:
[25:03] I'm not assuming anything about the state of anyone's sobriety or not sobriety, right? But they are pushing me to think, oh, this woman, she's so fucked up. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:
[25:12] I did feel bad for her because I was like, oh, there aren't actually scandalous details in the original reporting. It's like they asked her to close her laptop, she didn't respond. That could mean anything. That could mean she was asleep.
Speaker 2:
[25:23] Totally.
Speaker 1:
[25:24] Then they were like, well, because of FAA rules, we have to actually take you off of this plane and that's whatever. The whole point of the TMZ page 6 reporting is to make you filled in the blanks with the most dark-sided explanation possible.
Speaker 2:
[25:36] I know. So she wrote, and I'm not doing this in her accent because I actually can't do it that well, but just imagine.
Speaker 1:
[25:41] Every time I try, I'm like, I'm so wrong.
Speaker 2:
[25:42] Just imagine the most unbelievable accent you've ever heard in your entire life, one that doesn't exist for anyone else in the world. Okay, just imagine that accent. Here we go. Thanks for the great reporting, E! News. Indeed, I took a Lunestra once seated to ensure some shut eye on the Delta 1 red-eye flight to New York City. Boarded seamlessly with just a backpack and sneakers eager for a nap. Plan was to be bushy-tailed and beauty rested as I was meant to head straight to land for a slot with our beloved Drew Barrymore upon landing. Was looking forward to seeing Drew in an in-depth convo. But I guess Ice had other plans and I was detained instead. Sign of the times, I guess. Thanks for all the love and support. Never had a problem with Delta TSA before. Heart is with our unpaid TSA workers. Heart heart, apologies to any travelers who were delayed. So she shouldn't have said all this. This is very, she kind of said too much, right? We're kind of doing a little bit like over-explaining, right?
Speaker 1:
[26:35] I agree with that.
Speaker 2:
[26:35] And she includes this bit about how she was detained by Ice. And then a spokesperson for Homeland Security was like, she wasn't, I think she was being exaggerating. She's like, yeah, She was kind of adding a little bit of a fuck Ice situation, right? And she's like, all these cops at the airport, I'm being detained by Ice. It's so fucked up, whatever, whatever. Then the spokesperson has to come out and say, neither Ice nor TSA escorted or detained Natasha Lyonne. They're like, we just kicked her off the plane. Delta just like pushed her off the plane. They didn't like have her detained by Ice.
Speaker 1:
[27:04] And what's crazy about the situation is that like, what? I'm supposed to believe the Department of Homeland Security. So like, I can't even believe the spokesperson. The whole thing is just sort of like, in a way, it's almost such a perfect storm of mess that like, I'm checking out. I'm like checking out.
Speaker 2:
[27:22] Truly fuck Ice. And as I was in the airport like last week, it is truly terrifying to see them in the airport. Like it is an experience like that. I cannot believe everyone's having to have to see those losers like in the airport standing around doing nothing and being so scary. That is crazy. I do think she was exaggerating. Do you know what I mean? Whatever. And so then, but then because she's a famous person, they're like, oh, well, you know, that's actually just not true. So we're going to have to put out a statement and say that's not true.
Speaker 1:
[27:48] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[27:49] Not great for her journey in this story, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1:
[27:52] She is being kind of funny when being interviewed though. I have to say.
Speaker 2:
[27:56] Well, it's funny cause she wrote this. So you can't tell the tone. Then she goes on the red carpet for something else. She was at the, okay, the Planned Parenthood of Greater New York Spring Into Action Gala. All right, Natasha. And they ask her about it. And she says, oh, you mean my flight plans? My performance art piece?
Speaker 1:
[28:12] It's been a doozy.
Speaker 2:
[28:12] It's been a doozy.
Speaker 1:
[28:13] It's been a doozy. I can't even try. I don't even know why I attempted.
Speaker 2:
[28:16] You can't do it. I do seem to show up on time, hit those marks, despite it all, but yeah, it's a kooky moment, kooky times. I can't even do it either.
Speaker 10:
[28:23] She, like me, does not put up with people telling her what to do, how to act or what to say, if or when to fly. What? Make free flights and send me my shorts.
Speaker 1:
[28:36] The funniest thing to come out of this entire story, and maybe the only thing that will impact me in the future, is what I assume to be a joke about going on Drew Barrymore, which I think is real. She was obviously going to be on Drew Barrymore's show, but saying we looked forward to seeing Drew and having an in-depth convo. Like, there's nothing sillier than saying you expected to have an in-depth conversation on Drew's news.
Speaker 2:
[29:03] That's funny. I mean, she writes and speaks like an old-timey hologram. It's incredible, the character work she's done.
Speaker 1:
[29:13] An old-timey hologram.
Speaker 2:
[29:15] And she's method, so she's never breaking character. And what I mean in this character is she's gone through time. You know, she's time traveled, right? So she's somehow on Delta One. Again, once again with Delta One. She's once again on Delta One, but she is acting like she's never been on a plane before. And she is being like, I'm having an in-depth convo with my friend Drew Barrymore, our beloved Drew Barrymore.
Speaker 1:
[29:35] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[29:37] There's just something fascinating about her that I'll never be able to put my finger on. Do you know what I mean? And maybe that's why, you know, we love her so much.
Speaker 1:
[29:44] Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 9:
[29:46] Hi, BLT. I'm calling about Ice Spice getting in a fight at a McDonald's. Apparently, a fan came up and slapped her and they got into a fight. They like ended up outside. But I'm a little bit intrigued by this because her most recent tweet prior, so she tweeted the video of this, but then the tweet prior, she is tweeting about being a Wendy's partner. Then she posted the video of the fight on Twitter and said, this wouldn't happen at Wendy's and I'm confused. Is this fight actually like SponCon?
Speaker 8:
[30:38] Women do belong in Wendy's?
Speaker 2:
[30:40] Wow, that's a good question.
Speaker 1:
[30:42] I don't think it was SponCon. That would be like corporate warfare. If this is SponCon, this is like lawsuit level.
Speaker 2:
[30:51] I know, I don't think any brand would like let this be something that they put out there, no matter how kind of like smart the brand, you know what I mean? This does make the brand look good, right? At all.
Speaker 1:
[31:00] So on April 9th, Ice Spice tweeted, still rich, still craving at Wendy's new spicy chicken sandwich. Hashtag Wendy's partner. Wendy's responded, you know it. Ice Spice is a Wendy's partner, but while being a Wendy's partner, she visited a McDonald's in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2:
[31:17] This is very, oh my God, this is so Alicia Keys tweeting from an iPhone.
Speaker 1:
[31:20] From an iPhone.
Speaker 2:
[31:21] Blackberry sent from an iPhone. Oh my God, I'm having the most deja vu. It's beautiful. Okay, so if you guys remember, this is, you know, ancient texts, but Alicia Keys was like given the job as being the creative director of Blackberry. And then people saw her tweets were being sent from an iPhone. Yes. And they were like, use your Blackberry to send the tweets or whatever. Figure it out. To be fair, I had a Blackberry and it was really hard to use Twitter on a Blackberry. You had to have this little app.
Speaker 1:
[31:50] You had a pearl, right?
Speaker 2:
[31:51] Yeah. Loved my pearl. But that app, that Twitter app, oh my God, terrible.
Speaker 1:
[31:56] Yeah. I never had a Blackberry.
Speaker 2:
[31:58] You never had a Blackberry?
Speaker 1:
[31:59] I never had a Blackberry. Wow. I had Nokia Brick for a long time. Then I had, I'd never had a Razor, but I had the, what was it called? The Sliver. It was like the Razor that didn't fold. Do you remember her? Yeah, I do. And then I had her, two versions of her, and it had the craziest ringtones of all time. And then I got the iPhone 3G.
Speaker 2:
[32:22] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[32:22] And then it was off to the races, you know? And then I was stuck in the ecosystem forever.
Speaker 2:
[32:27] I know, it's crazy. We used to have so many different types of phones, so many different types of brands, and now we're just kind of on one brand. It's like, it'd be so nice if I could like have different brands of phones again. That was kind of one of the most exciting parts of life at that time was getting a different brand of phone. What will I get now? What will I get now? What will it do?
Speaker 1:
[32:43] But it is true. One of the reasons Ice Spice got her Wendy's partnership is because she's very open about the fact that she used to work at a Wendy's. She's been loud and proud about being a former Wendy's employee, and now she's being paid by Wendy's. But despite that, she went to a McDonald's.
Speaker 2:
[33:01] She went to a McDonald's, which is her right as an American. A woman and a fan came up to her and started shit. Do you think this fan was an undercover Wendy's antagonist who was like, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 1:
[33:15] An undercover Wendy's operative? Yeah. Shouldn't you be at a Wendy's? The reason we know how this went down is because there are two videos of it. One of them is security footage from inside the McDonald's, which again, we're talking about this with Tyler, the creator, right? This just happened where he was being filmed looking at a book, right? He was like, this is unfair.
Speaker 2:
[33:34] His was even more devious because nothing was happening. This at least, it's notable.
Speaker 1:
[33:40] This I'm sure Ice Spice is happy about because it proves that she did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2:
[33:45] Yes, much like Alan-
Speaker 1:
[33:46] Unfortunately, it proves her side of the story, Alan Richson.
Speaker 2:
[33:48] Much like Alan Richson's body cam or whatever.
Speaker 1:
[33:51] Where it proves that he did nothing wrong because Ice Spice is minding her own business in a mostly empty McDonald's. Sitting in the back, that's my favorite spot to sit in McDonald's, on the sides, in the booth.
Speaker 2:
[34:02] I love a mostly empty McDonald's.
Speaker 1:
[34:04] I love a mostly empty McDonald's too.
Speaker 2:
[34:05] You're getting your frozen Coke, you're bullshitting with your friends.
Speaker 1:
[34:11] The great way to do the hash brown is to hold the hash brown and then you squeeze out ketchup on each individual bite on the hash brown.
Speaker 2:
[34:18] You're so right. It's crazy how good McDonald's is. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[34:21] They're crazy.
Speaker 2:
[34:21] I really want McDonald's now.
Speaker 1:
[34:23] So she's enjoying her McDonald's and in the video, which has a little bit of audio, it's in the evening. I think it's like 6.30 in the evening. She's sitting there with a friend across from them. A person comes up to her and starts speaking to Ice Spice. It seems cordial at first. There is a little bit of audio, but apparently you have to turn it up.
Speaker 2:
[34:41] I mean, it's definitely like, I'm a fan, like love you or whatever.
Speaker 1:
[34:45] Then things start getting heated. So it says, a young woman jogs up to the table, where it's talking to the pair seemingly trying to get Spice's friend to slide over so she can sit with the duo. Spice and her friend aren't into it, and the rapper seems to point to the door to send her on their way. The fan doesn't take kindly to this and hits Ice Spice. Then because she has been hit, she's been struck, Ice Spice stands up and is essentially like chasing her out of the restaurant. The fight continues outside. And I think what's the craziest thing about this is TMZ shows up instantly, right? They've got cameras all over the place because it's happened in Los Angeles. And TMZ very quickly found the woman who allegedly seems to have hit Ice Spice. Her name is Viya.
Speaker 2:
[35:26] Of course they have. They found her.
Speaker 1:
[35:28] And they're like, what happened? And Viya, I think, said a little bit more than she should have because she doesn't seem to say, I didn't hit Ice Spice. She's like, yeah, I did hit Ice Spice because Ice Spice was mean to me. So I'm sort of like, yikes, here we go.
Speaker 7:
[35:43] We came from the beach earlier that night and we decided to go walk around Hollywood or whatever. But before we did that, we decided to stop by McDonald's because we all had to use the bathroom. So then one of my friends, she comes out and she was like, oh, I think that's Ice Spice over there. And I'm like, oh, for real? So I go up to them and I'm giving her and the other girl, she was like, compliment. And then immediately Ice Spice was just being rude. She was like, why are you over here? You could leave, bye. And I'm like, why are you being rude pretty much? And she was basically saying like, you could just leave, bye. Like I don't even know why you're at my table. Then that's when I proceed to ask her like, you don't got to be rude. I'm just giving you guys a compliment. And I'm like, you know what? Where are you from? She said, I'm from New York. So I said, let me tell you something. I don't care where you're from. I'm like, you in LA, you in my city now. You can't be out here disrespecting people. Like if you wanted me to, wanted us to leave, you could have just politely said, oh, I'm not in the mood or something, right? Instead of just yelling at me. So she kept going on, then she calls me a bitch. So after she calls me a bitch, I hit her. So I hit her, and then so I got escorted out to McDonald's. And then so after they escorted me, I'm like by my car and I hear Ice Spice in the middle of the street, talking about something, where is that bitch at? I want to fight her with the woo woo. So I come back down the street and then that's where me and her fought again. And then she just kept talking a whole lot of mess.
Speaker 1:
[37:04] I love that she's just like, so I hit her because she called me a bitch. But the thing that Ice Spice says in the video that Viya does not explain here is something very funny. The woman approaches her on the McDonald's and she's like, where are you from? Are you from Cali? And Ice Spice is like, I'm from McDonald's. Listen.
Speaker 7:
[37:24] So you from Cali? Are you from Cali? Where are you from? Oh, you're from Chi-Rai.
Speaker 2:
[37:36] Ice Spice wasn't wanting to speak to a fan, so I don't understand how this escalated. It could have just been like, I don't want to talk to you right now. I'm having my McDonald's.
Speaker 1:
[37:45] And the fan wouldn't leave. So Ice Spice allegedly called her a bitch and the fan punched her. And I think Ice Spice has been totally vindicated. Also after this happened and got the press cycle, Ice Spice posted the video of the interaction, which really does vindicate her and shows that she did nothing wrong and said, this wouldn't happen at Wendy's.
Speaker 2:
[38:03] Which is genius because it's not spawn and yet it kind of is spawn because she's already getting paid by Wendy's.
Speaker 1:
[38:12] And I know Wendy's isn't mad about it because it is still up. It's been up for days at this point. If Wendy's were upset about that tweet, they would have said, please delete that immediately.
Speaker 2:
[38:21] Exactly. It's kind of this amazing synergy. Sometimes there's amazing synergy, you know?
Speaker 1:
[38:27] It's just once again, it's a bummer. Just like Alan Richson, would we have believed this story? Would we have believed that Ice Spice was as innocent as she was if we didn't have scary surveillance footage? Maybe not.
Speaker 2:
[38:37] It sucks that celebs, they need it, but then they're also chased by it. It's all a lose-lose.
Speaker 1:
[38:44] She posted the footage on her Twitter account because she knew it vindicated her.
Speaker 2:
[38:49] This wouldn't happen at a Wendy's.
Speaker 1:
[38:51] A bleak.
Speaker 2:
[38:51] That's so funny. Where are you from? McDonald's.
Speaker 1:
[38:55] I'm from McDonald's. I'm sure Wendy's is upset about that. They could have like, Ice Spice, you could have said you were from a Wendy's.
Speaker 2:
[39:01] Sure, but at the time she was from McDonald's. She was like, I'm from this McDonald's. Don't ask me any more questions, please. Can we move on to the next call?
Speaker 1:
[39:07] Yes, please.
Speaker 3:
[39:08] I want to be famous.
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Speaker 3:
[42:13] I Want To Be Famous.
Speaker 6:
[42:15] Hi, BLP. I just got an ad on Instagram for a Pepperidge Farm, Nate Berkus collaboration. Yes.
Speaker 1:
[42:31] Okay.
Speaker 3:
[42:33] One MacBook.
Speaker 2:
[42:36] This one sent you spiraling.
Speaker 1:
[42:38] I don't know what about this call, which is the only call about Nate Berkus' Pepperidge Farm ad and collaboration made me Google it. But I was like, I have a feeling that this caller who sounds totally bored.
Speaker 2:
[42:50] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[42:51] I have a feeling that when I Google this, I will laugh. And fortunately, I was correct because when I Googled Nate Berkus Pepperidge Farm collaboration, I did laugh for seven minutes straight.
Speaker 2:
[43:01] I hate to say that this is kind of genius to me.
Speaker 1:
[43:06] Genius?
Speaker 2:
[43:07] Well, I'm just like, how do you shake up the design of like a boring Pepperidge Farm cookie? And they kind of did find a way. I want to thought of this. This is so stupid, but they did it.
Speaker 1:
[43:17] I don't even really understand what's different about them.
Speaker 2:
[43:21] They made different combinations of the chessboard.
Speaker 1:
[43:25] But they already were chess pieces originally. Like that's what I'm sort of like, he's shaking it up. But it's like they're still chess pieces. They were always chess pieces.
Speaker 2:
[43:36] Yeah, but now they're different. They offer an elevated tasteful twist on a fan favorite cookie.
Speaker 1:
[43:41] Sort of like, did I even know what the chessman cookies were to begin with? They're Pepperidge Farm cookies that are all squares.
Speaker 2:
[43:49] Pepperidge Farm is partnering with world-renowned interior designer Nate Berkus to introduce the Pepperidge Farm x Nate Berkus Chessman Cookie Board, a chessboard-inspired piece designed to turn simple rituals into special occasions, perfect for serving cookies, entertaining, and effortless everyday display. Wait, so is it a chessboard or is it a cookie? Are you putting the cookies on the board? Where's the board?
Speaker 1:
[44:11] It's basically, it's like a charcuterie. It's a serving tray for the chessman pieces.
Speaker 2:
[44:17] I thought he designed the cookie again. Oh, that's boring. I thought he redesigned the cookie. Well, I thought he redesigned the cookie.
Speaker 1:
[44:23] It's just a board.
Speaker 2:
[44:24] He made a chessboard inspired by the chessmen.
Speaker 1:
[44:29] It is a limited edition serving tray featuring a checker design inspired by salted caramel, cinnamon sugar, and brown butter pecan flavor. No, it's inspired by a chessboard. It's not inspired by cookies.
Speaker 2:
[44:40] I thought he made the cookie different.
Speaker 1:
[44:44] He just made a chessboard. There's new flavors, but like, there's still chess pieces.
Speaker 2:
[44:51] He made a chessboard. And he's like, he's putting, oh, there's a video. Can you play this?
Speaker 1:
[44:56] Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 12:
[44:57] I'm Nate Berkus and this is my Pepperidge Farm Chessman Cookie Board. I have always loved the original Chessman butter cookies. They're a true classic. And now with new flavors like salted caramel, cinnamon sugar, and brown butter pecan, that classic gets a really thoughtful creative twist, which of course became design inspiration for me. So I started thinking what would happen if I took something classic and gave it a fresh point of view. And for Chessman, that was the Chess motif. The idea that it was a nod to the Chessman cookie, but done in a style that I'm using constantly in architecture and design made perfect sense. Merging a chessboard with a cookie board felt like a natural evolution, something entirely new. We use the flavor palette to really guide the design. I wanted those warm cozy tones, caramel, cinnamon, brown butter to feel central. I want people to love having this cookie board in their homes. It might just be my most tasteful design yet.
Speaker 2:
[45:56] Does he want you to play chess with the cookies on the board? Because they don't do that.
Speaker 1:
[46:01] They don't fit. And that's the other issue. The Chessman cookie pieces are larger than the squares on the Chessman cookie board that Nate Berkus air quotes designed. I cannot believe there is a minute long video talking about how Nate Berkus was inspired by the word chess and things that are explicitly chess pieces and said, I had the brilliant idea to make a chess board.
Speaker 2:
[46:23] Okay. I really didn't know what chessmen were, I guess. Yeah, they have the pictures of the...
Speaker 1:
[46:28] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[46:28] So you could play with the chessmen if you had like a full set in the chessmen, but then you're just moving the cookies across this like board.
Speaker 1:
[46:36] But you couldn't play it on the board that Nate Berkus designed because the board is too small. The squares are like 60% smaller than the chessmen cookies themselves. So it's like totally fucking worthless. And also I cannot believe I'm supposed to be impressed that he said, oh, these are cookies that are shaped like chess pieces, that they're called chessmen actually. What if I make a chess board and all a chess board is is a checkerboard. Like it's so crazy that I'm supposed to be impressed by this. And I really went nuts.
Speaker 2:
[47:06] I want a cookie now.
Speaker 1:
[47:07] Yeah, shortbread is the best. Isn't this just shortbread?
Speaker 2:
[47:10] Yeah, these look really good to me now.
Speaker 1:
[47:13] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[47:13] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[47:14] They're Pepperidge Farm. They're really good.
Speaker 2:
[47:16] Where are you from? I'm McDonald's. Okay. Are we done?
Speaker 1:
[47:19] Yeah. I mean, the thing that I always think about is, you know, that I think about it all the time, but Nate Berkus, you know, that he survived the 2004 tsunami. What? I think about it all the time. I think about it literally every day of my life.
Speaker 2:
[47:29] Did I know that? I must know that.
Speaker 1:
[47:30] Maybe you didn't know that.
Speaker 2:
[47:31] The tsunami that they made the movie with Naomi Watts about?
Speaker 1:
[47:34] Yeah, the tsunami that killed like 200,000 people. He survived it.
Speaker 2:
[47:37] I know, but that movie, the movie with that...
Speaker 1:
[47:40] Yeah, with the impossible. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[47:42] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[47:42] He was in Sri Lanka with his boyfriend who was another like design guy, like hot gay guy. Sorry. And the tsunami came. And the story is, it's like he grabbed onto something and survived and the boyfriend got washed away.
Speaker 2:
[47:56] He should be reminding me of that every day.
Speaker 1:
[47:58] It kind of, I mean, this sounds grim, but it kind of like solidified his fame because it made him, it was like, you know, Americans need an American person to really identify with things happening on the other side of the world. It's depressing, but they were like, he was like on the Oprah circuit because of it. He was a very-
Speaker 2:
[48:13] Right. He kind of, yeah. I mean, in 2000, in 2025, which was only a year ago, he, Us Weekly published Nate Berkus talk, surviving the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami, moments in between with his kids and more. Like there are people who are still, he's still having to talk about it. Like he's still discussing it, you know?
Speaker 1:
[48:32] And he did, his ex-boyfriend, the late boyfriend who died in the tsunami was like a photographer. And he-
Speaker 2:
[48:40] He named his kid after him.
Speaker 1:
[48:41] He named his kid after him. And also he recently, cause I remember seeing it in People not that long ago, he did a gallery installation of the exes whose name was Fernando, his photographs, and like in tribute of like the 20th anniversary of his death or something.
Speaker 2:
[48:56] Fernando Ben Gochea, I'm probably pronouncing that wrong, apologies. But yeah, he was Argentinian.
Speaker 1:
[49:03] Anyway, I can't believe maybe you didn't know that. You'll never forget it.
Speaker 2:
[49:07] I mean, I know it's one of those things like I knew I knew, like I know that, I knew that. But you do forget when he shows up to redesign the Chessmen board or whatever.
Speaker 6:
[49:16] You don't want to talk about this. I know you don't. But I feel like you're talking so much about your favorite person, Haley Duff, but you have to. Haley Duff and Matt Rosenberg split after 12-year engagement. That's crazy. Do you think she's overcompensating with the press because she knew this was coming out? I do not know her name was spelled with an IE this whole time. I don't think I've ever had to write this woman's name. I thought it was maybe a different woman named Haley Duff. Because that seems like a pretty common name, I guess. Well, anyways, Crunch Crunch Women Don't Belong to Influence. Bye.
Speaker 2:
[50:01] You're thinking there's another woman named Haley Duff. You're like, it can't be that Haley Duff.
Speaker 1:
[50:06] It has to be that Haley Duff.
Speaker 2:
[50:07] This happening in the wake, meaning, but not even in the wake, it's still going on amidst the...
Speaker 7:
[50:14] Uh-oh.
Speaker 1:
[50:17] Oh, Drill.
Speaker 2:
[50:18] The Drill heard me saying Haley Duff Press Tour. Okay, you can say it.
Speaker 1:
[50:25] The Drill heard you say Haley Duff Press Tour.
Speaker 2:
[50:27] This happening amid the Haley Duff Press Tour is, that's what's getting me here. There's a lot to be made about their drama, the drama between them. It has fueled a lot of this press tour because there's songs about her and she's brought it up.
Speaker 1:
[50:41] Also, don't forget the cut article that started at all before the album came out, was an attempt to frame Hillary Duff as some kind of villain.
Speaker 2:
[50:49] It really kicked off the tour. Then she had to say, me and my sister are not that close right now. Everybody was like, what the fuck? You made three movies together. An album. Anyways, do you think this says something where it's like, maybe Hillary hated her fiance.
Speaker 1:
[51:07] I think that's as logical an explanation as anything we're going to get.
Speaker 2:
[51:10] They were engaged for 12 years too.
Speaker 1:
[51:12] I also think there's another way to interpret this, which is that maybe Hillary, she spoke about it in really vague terms. I know she's talked about it in some interview. I'm trying to remember the one that it was, where she was like, it's really sad. Maybe it was the CBS morning one where she was like, it's really sad that my sister and I are no longer close. We don't talk, which a lot of people assume is about your sister.
Speaker 13:
[51:36] Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's definitely about my sister. Just absolutely the most lonely part of my existence. It's not having my sister in my life at the moment. Really struggled with thinking about including that on the record. But it's funny as a person that exists in the world without my other half, so many people are having that experience.
Speaker 1:
[52:20] She spoke in vague terms. She was still very, even though she definitely wanted people to know that they were not close anymore because she knew it was kind of a good story, even though a sad one, she was kind of being polite about it. She wasn't really speaking for Haley ever. She was just sort of referencing it and shutting up. It's possible that she knew that Haley was going through it and didn't want to twist the knife, you know? Like maybe now that Haley's engagement is broken off, like you said, there is an opportunity for Haley and Hillary's relationship to be repaired. I think it makes total sense that this guy who she has been with for over 10 years could be the reason for their...
Speaker 2:
[53:04] I mean, wouldn't that be a beautiful button to this entire drama, right? Wouldn't that be a great way to end the Hillary Duff press tour? And let me tell you, you would be so happy it'd be over, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1:
[53:13] Yeah, and like the caller was saying, oh, your favorite person, Haley Duff, sort of with a laugh. I have no issues with Haley Duff. I kind of had no issues with Hillary Duff. My issue was with the Hillary Duff press machine. Haley Duff, I got like no problems with, like we're fine, we're tight, like I don't care, you know? I'm good, I see her on the street, I'm giving her a high five, you know? Like it's okay.
Speaker 3:
[53:36] You're giving her a high five.
Speaker 1:
[53:37] I'm giving her a high five. But what is very funny about the fact that Haley Duff's 12 year engagement to her estranged fiance, Matt Rosenberg, is that they got engaged on April Fool's Day, 2014. What did they think was going to happen?
Speaker 2:
[53:53] Well, and then they were engaged for 12 years, which like really is kind of like, if you didn't think that was cursed, there's proof in the pudding.
Speaker 1:
[54:00] They did the whole thing, like the explanation is very much like, you know, we got engaged and then we got pregnant and then we just started making all these sort of like big relationship decisions together without being married and we thought, well, why complicate things? And it's actually going to be too complicated to plan a wedding when we have all these other things to do. That's kind of all it is. What's funny is I went to Us Weekly to find out what his deal is, because I kind of know nothing about his deal. And Us Weekly, bless their hearts, couldn't figure it out either. It says, who is Matthew Rosenberg? What to know about Haley Duff's ex following their split? And you scroll, scroll, scroll. And it says, who is Matthew Rosenberg? Matthew Rosenberg was in a 14-year relationship with Haley Duff from 2012 to 2026.
Speaker 2:
[54:45] That question should not be answered. It's like, we don't need to know about it anymore. I don't need to know who he is anymore.
Speaker 1:
[54:50] It's over. But then it says, what is Matthew Rosenberg's job? And it says, despite Matthew Rosenberg's long-term romance with Haley Duff, many things about him are still unknown. Details about his job, for example, have never been revealed publicly, so we really don't know shit about this guy.
Speaker 2:
[55:06] So there's nothing. They've got nothing.
Speaker 1:
[55:07] There's nothing. Who is Matthew Rosenberg? Well, he's the person who was in a 14-year relationship with Haley Duff. That's the reason you're clicking on this article.
Speaker 2:
[55:14] Well, it's like, who is Matthew Rosenberg? Who was the guy that Hillary Duff was engaged to? Well, his name is Matthew Rosenberg. Well, who is he? Well, he was engaged to Hillary Duff. Well, who is he? Well, his name is Matthew Rosenberg. You're stuck in an AI loop.
Speaker 1:
[55:27] You're stuck in an AI loop. Well, have you noticed? Us Weekly started putting the AI notification at the bottom of a lot of their stories. They're like, this article was produced in part with artificial intelligence, and now they're laying off half of their staff. It's really fucking depressing.
Speaker 2:
[55:41] Yeah. No, it's so sad. I saw that this morning.
Speaker 1:
[55:44] It's really depressing. Not every story has the AI notification. For example, I just clicked on Charlize Theron goes topless under blazer and shows off major under boob at Apex premiere. That one says it's not written by AI. But I was reading another one recently and it said it was written by AI, and I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:
[56:04] Yeah, they laid off half the staff and they went remote. It's really bad. Not great for us weekly. Are we going to outlast us weekly? Oh my God, probably. This rate.
Speaker 6:
[56:13] Natalie Portman spotted in Paris amid news she is expecting her third child with partner Tanguy Destable.
Speaker 3:
[56:24] Tanguy.
Speaker 6:
[56:27] It's like Tan and Guy, one word, no space, Destable. Who? Crunch Crunch.
Speaker 1:
[56:37] We talked about Detestable Tanguy like a year ago, when they first got together.
Speaker 2:
[56:40] We did talk about Detestable Tanguy. I mean, unfortunately, his name is like the most, like it's like the easiest French name to be like, what is this? Do you know what I mean? Like, and we're allowed to do that apparently, because it's French, do you know?
Speaker 1:
[56:54] We are totally allowed to make fun of French names. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:
[56:57] We're not really supposed to be speaking on like weird names, right? But like this name, it's like, I, you can't, you know.
Speaker 1:
[57:03] I'm allowed.
Speaker 2:
[57:04] It's pronounced Tanguy.
Speaker 1:
[57:06] Tanguy Destable.
Speaker 2:
[57:08] Don't Tanguy Destable. But then it's like Tanguy Destable. Like it's like, I'm, you know, I can't not read it as like Tanguy.
Speaker 1:
[57:13] Detestable Tanguy. And because we forgot about him, as I said to a friend last week, he's the detestable, forgettable Tanguy.
Speaker 2:
[57:20] Well, totally forgot that she was even dating this guy. I remember he's a DJ though.
Speaker 1:
[57:24] He's a DJ and he's worked with Gaga. Clink, clink, clink, clink, clink. There really is no good reason for this, but I had an idea, so I had to follow through and it's only like 20 seconds long. But I sent it to Lindsey yesterday and she was just like, why?
Speaker 2:
[57:37] You made this on your own 40th birthday. That's the funniest part.
Speaker 1:
[57:40] I made it as I was turning 40 years old.
Speaker 2:
[57:43] You really turned 40 doing something that you love, which is making the most random parody song about the pop culture thing.
Speaker 1:
[57:49] Well, it's only 24 seconds long, but it did make me laugh. I needed something to distract from the mortality and this made me laugh, and so I did it yesterday.
Speaker 2:
[58:22] You didn't want to do the rest of the song, you were like, this is the first time I've done enough.
Speaker 1:
[58:26] Lindsey, it was my birthday. I couldn't spend all day on the song.
Speaker 2:
[58:31] You started the song and then you said, well, that's enough, I'm laughing. What are some of the lyrics there? Amidala.
Speaker 1:
[58:37] So you're a France guy, like to take a chance guy, Amidala fan guy, listen, name the trance guy. She's that Nat type, book club with a chat type, cause she's a book club. No. May December brat type, cause she's a brat in that movie. Swan that's kind of black type. He's the Tang guy. Wait, what's the last part? Swan that's kind of black type.
Speaker 2:
[58:58] Black Swan. Swan that's kind of black type?
Speaker 1:
[59:02] Yeah, I'm telling you, songwriting is easy. How many times do I have to tell you? Songwriting is easy.
Speaker 2:
[59:08] Weird Bob strikes again with his parody of a birth announcement. I got this drill. This drill and your song are really sending me to space.
Speaker 1:
[59:19] Okay, I'm sorry. Let's just end this.
Speaker 2:
[59:21] So she's having a third child with him.
Speaker 1:
[59:23] She's having a third child. That's it? It's their first child together. I think Natalie Portman is so, because Tanguy, Tanguy is definitely the who in the situation. Natalie Portman is of them. But Natalie Portman is of them in a way that's like, it's so old school. It's very Beyoncé. But for actors, she's so hidden. Actually, more than Beyoncé. She's so private. She lives in another country. When she pops up, she dates these hot French people. She dates the most random hot guys imaginable, but also had that weird fling with Darren Aronof. That was, had the relationship with Darren Aronofsky, a famous person.
Speaker 2:
[59:57] She's about to star in a Lena Dunham movie after not being in a bunch of stuff. She's kind of come back to be so random. I love what she chooses to do. What she chooses to do is so, she's always on Tiffany and Dior ads constantly, if anything, that's what she's doing the most now.
Speaker 1:
[60:13] Right. Where it's like, a lot of celebrities are sort of like, well, I'll just take the check from any old brand. And she's like, no, I'll only do things like Tiffany and Dior, that's it.
Speaker 2:
[60:23] Well, it's also nothing like getting pregnant at the age 44 when you're an A-list celebrity. And if everyone's like, what? They're like, what? And she's like, I'm doing gyrotonics, I feel great. And you're like, oh my God, you're so rich and famous.
Speaker 1:
[60:36] A source told people, cause people's kind of obsessed with the fact that Natalie Portman's with Tanguy Destable having a baby with them at 44.
Speaker 2:
[60:44] They're obsessed with that. I would be obsessed. Honestly, I understand that.
Speaker 1:
[60:47] Natalie Portman is loving life in Paris. The actress, 44, is content in the city of light while awaiting her first baby with partner, Tanguy Destable. A source tells people, quote, she has a normal Parisian life. Her French is good. Her French is good and confident and shows how comfortable she has become here. Her French is good.
Speaker 2:
[61:06] Her French is good.
Speaker 1:
[61:07] Well, the reason she's there is because of Benjamin Milpied, the ballet dancer.
Speaker 2:
[61:10] Right, because her friends are with him. Although he was just in New York. He just did this whole thing in New York at the Armory. So I don't really know.
Speaker 1:
[61:16] That's why she ended up there in the first place, because that's where the kids are going to school, blah, blah. And I think she just stayed there because she enjoys Paris. Anyway, we can end this episode.
Speaker 2:
[61:22] Being like her French is good is so funny. Her French is pretty good.
Speaker 8:
[61:25] Her French is good.
Speaker 1:
[61:27] Her French is good.
Speaker 2:
[61:28] The Thor Love and Thunder actress announced. It's like, come on.
Speaker 1:
[61:35] She said to Harper's Bazaar, Tanguy and I are very excited. I'm just very grateful. I know it's such a privilege and a miracle.
Speaker 2:
[61:45] The way that I Googled Tanguy is not a normal French name. And it did say this is a normal French name. So just want to let you know, we're saying it like Americans because it's more embarrassing if we say it like French people, but it is a normal French name. Tanguy.
Speaker 1:
[61:56] Tanguy. Tanguy. Tanguy. Okay. Thank you for listening to the episode of Who Weekly. Call in at 619 who then believe questions, comments, and concerns for our Friday show. Support us on patreon.com/whoweeklybonusepisodes, the Discord server, commentary tracks, and more. You can also get the audio only, audio only on Apple podcasts. Just click subscribe within the app. Thank you to Katie and Erica of the Who's for providing our read-a-themes on Tuesdays. Thank you to Timmy, our research and editorial assistant for researching and editorializing. We'll see you on Tuesday if you're not a subscriber and we'll see you on Sunday if you are. Bye.
Speaker 6:
[62:24] Bye.
Speaker 14:
[62:58] Hi, this message is for Bobby.
Speaker 6:
[63:00] I just wanted to let you know that the impact of your musical work on this show has had lasting effects. When I saw the video of the Bob Baker marionettes featuring Ben Platt singing Diet Pepsi, the only thing I was hearing was, why are you, why are you punishing me? Send from my papiria, see to Sony. So I just wanted you to know that the work that you do is important. Crunch, crunch. Puppets do belong at Coachella.
Speaker 14:
[63:43] Hi, DLT, this is quite zemi, but I think it has been a topic of main show conversation. But I just had to see if you guys were aware that there is a new Barbra Streisand bridge in town and it's the Brooklyn Bridge because the Manhattan borough president, Brad Hoylman, put up a new sign to the Manhattan entrance to the Brooklyn Bridge that says, hello gorgeous and Barbra recorded a little video about it. I just thought that was so wonderful. The era of Zoran is just doing great things for you guys. I'm so happy. Happy birthday, Criterion Channel.
Speaker 4:
[64:37] Hi, Lindsey, Bobby, to me. I'm calling in response to Kimmy Gibbler being under anesthesia during the OJ, whatever, chaser, I'm assuming. I was not listening that much and now I'm parking my car. I'm calling about that. I was under anesthesia during 9-11. I was getting my tonsils taken out in California at 7 AM, aka 10 AM New York Times. I was getting surgery and my parents were in the waiting room watching on the TV. I was 7 years old. So me and Kimmy Gibbler basically had the same thing and this was my chance to tell my story. Okay, thank you. Crunch Crunch, Kimmy Gibbler under anesthesia during OJ, me under anesthesia during 9-11.
Speaker 9:
[65:30] Hi, Lindsey, Bobby, Timmy. Long time, long time. I had to pause the pod during the Kimmy Gibbler, Kimmy Gibbler, who the fudges that? Kimmy Gibbler, OJ Broncochase segment. You're not going to tell you this, but I have a similar story about January 6th. I used to work overnight, and I worked in overnight the 5th into the 6th on January 6th. I woke up at 5.30, and I immediately reached for my phone, obviously, so I'm scrolling through Twitter, and I was just so confused. It was the pandemic, so I was living with my parents at the time. I just walked downstairs, still in my bathrobe, just super groggy still, and I'm just like, do we have a country anymore? Yeah, so that's how I found out about January 6th, which I feel like is spiritually similar to Kimmy Gibbler finding out about the LJ Bronco Chase. Yeah, Kimmy Gibbler is the end.
Speaker 3:
[66:43] Hi, Lindsey Bobby, Kimmy. This is like an LA real estate related query. I currently live in an apartment that used to be lived in in the 90s by the actress Marlee Matlin. I have to move out of that apartment and I am moving into an apartment that used to be lived in by the Taco Bell Chihuahua. Also played Bruiser's mom in Lizard One Two. My friend just moved into an apartment that used to be lived in by Orville Peck. So yeah, I would request a ranking of who to them for Orville Peck, Marlee Matlin and the Taco Bell Chihuahua.
Speaker 8:
[67:24] Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 3:
[67:24] Crunch, crunch.
Speaker 8:
[67:27] Hi, all. I have been unemployed for the last two years, and I just got a job, and I'm feeling tremendous relief. I'm feeling so happy, and I just want to shout out all my supporters who don't know that they're my supporters, including DJ Louie, including Lindsey and Bobby, and including Timmy, who did so much to get me through this difficult time you don't even know. Thank you so much. Even if you don't play this, you're amazing. Crunch, crunch. We need God.