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Speaker 1:
[00:05] Good morning. Can that massive Bible reading project that ends tomorrow in the nation's capital bring about a hunger for the Word of God?

Speaker 2:
[00:13] Yeah, we'll talk about that and much more on Culture Friday with John Stone Street. He is standing by. Also today, a new documentary challenges the idea that science and faith are in conflict. It's called The Story of Everything, and Myrna talks with the man who wrote it and is featured in it, Stephen Meyer.

Speaker 3:
[00:31] Science is just what we get to know about the world that God made all around us.

Speaker 2:
[00:36] And later on, your listener feedback for the month of April.

Speaker 1:
[00:46] It's Friday, April 24th. This is The World and Everything In It from listener-supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.

Speaker 2:
[00:54] And I'm Nick Eicher. Good morning.

Speaker 1:
[00:58] Up next, Ken Covington with Today's News.

Speaker 4:
[01:02] Israel and Lebanon have agreed to extend a 10-day ceasefire to pause fighting in Lebanon by another three weeks. That's the word from President Trump, who said Thursday that negotiators from the two countries have hit it off.

Speaker 5:
[01:14] They like each other. I found that out today, and I've sort of heard about that. They actually like each other, Lebanon and Israel. And we had a great meeting with the very high officials of Lebanon and very high officials of Israel.

Speaker 4:
[01:28] Thursday's negotiations in Washington represented the second round of high-level talks between the two countries since last week. Israel has stressed the need to disarm and disband the Lebanon-based terror group Hezbollah. An Israeli ambassador to the US., Keel Leiter, told President Trump that is one step closer to happening.

Speaker 6:
[01:47] Mr. President, under your leadership, Iran has been so degraded. The possibility of degrading Hezbollah and liberating Lebanon from their occupation is real.

Speaker 4:
[01:58] Trump said the extension could open the door for a face-to-face meeting between the president of Lebanon and Israel's prime minister at the White House in the coming weeks. Also on Thursday, President Trump said he has ordered the US. Navy to shoot to kill whenever it spots small Iranian boats dropping mines in the Strait of Hormuz. He said in that circumstance there should be, quote, no hesitation. That came a day after Iran's Revolutionary Guard fired on three commercial ships in the Strait and seized two of them. But with regard to peace talks, Trump said he would rather negotiate an end to the Iran war than resume bombing. But he's in no hurry.

Speaker 5:
[02:33] I don't want to rush it. I want to take my time. We have plenty of time and I want to get a great deal. I want to get a deal where our nation and the world is safe from lunatics with nuclear weapons.

Speaker 4:
[02:45] Peace talks in Pakistan earlier this month ended without a deal. Trump has since extended the fragile ceasefire to allow more time to keep talking. But he has kept the US naval blockade of Iranian ports in place, choking Iran's oil exports.

Speaker 5:
[02:58] They're not doing well economically, financially. They're not doing any business because of the blockade. They want to make a deal. We have been speaking to them, but they don't even know who's leading the country. They're in turmoil.

Speaker 4:
[03:12] Also yesterday, US forces seized another Iranian oil tanker, this time in the Indian Ocean. It is at least the fourth Iran-linked tanker that the US has diverted since the blockade began. The Trump administration has taken another step toward loosening restrictions on medical marijuana. Rhodes Harrison Waters has that story.

Speaker 7:
[03:32] Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch signed the final order moving FDA-approved medical marijuana products from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. He said with nearly 40 states allowing medical marijuana, the federal government needs a common-sense approach. Schedule 1 drugs like LSD and heroin are criminalized for high abuse potential and no accepted medical use. In Schedule 3, marijuana would join anabolic steroids and ketamine as treatments with moderate or low abuse risk. But some researchers called the change concerning. A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found higher risks of psychosis and bipolar disorder in teens using marijuana. Another study found decades of clinical trials show little or no effectiveness in treating mental health disorders. In June, the Justice Department will hold hearings on whether marijuana in general should be moved to Schedule 3. Reporting for World, I'm Harrison Waters.

Speaker 4:
[04:28] Hurricane Helene is still causing damage more than a year and a half after it slammed the southeastern United States. Authorities in Georgia say debris from Helene is fueling wildfires in the state. The Category 4 hurricane scattered fallen trees and limbs across the region, now serving as kindling for the ravenous flames. And of course, as usual, drought and strong winds are the other factors. The flames have destroyed more than 50 homes and threatened roughly a thousand more. And hundreds have been forced to evacuate their homes near Georgia's coast.

Speaker 8:
[05:01] I don't know if I still have a house on it, standing or not. And that's what drives me, I think, crazy more than anything, not knowing.

Speaker 4:
[05:09] Air quality alerts are in effect in the Atlanta area and beyond, with smoke drifting as far as Columbia, South Carolina. Wildfires are also raging in northern Florida. The National Transportation Safety Board now says that all new school buses should be equipped with alcohol detection systems to ensure drivers are not intoxicated. That comes out of an investigation of a West Virginia crash that led to the amputation of one boy's leg. And the NTSB says it is not an isolated incident. While intoxicated bus drivers are not a common occurrence, the agency says the danger to students and the public is still too great to tolerate. Some of Hollywood's biggest names could soon be under one roof. World's Kristin Plavin reports.

Speaker 9:
[05:53] Warner Brothers Discovery shareholders voted Thursday to sell the entire company to Paramount in a deal worth $81 billion. That would put HBO Max, Harry Potter and Game of Thrones under the same ownership as CBS, Top Gun and Titanic. Regulators still have to approve the mega merger, but if approved, it would shrink Hollywood's major studios from five to four. Paramount would stand alongside Disney, Universal and Sony. Paramount plans to fold HBO Max into its own streaming service. Critics warn fewer choices could push subscription prices even higher and regulatory filings hint at layoffs ahead as the company looks to cut costs on overlapping operations. For WORLD, I'm Kristen Flavin.

Speaker 4:
[06:41] And I'm Kent Covington. Still ahead, a new documentary challenges the idea that science and faith are in conflict plus your listener feedback for the month of April. This is The World and Everything In It.

Speaker 2:
[07:07] It's Friday, the 24th of April. Glad to have you along for today's edition of The World and Everything In It. Good morning, I'm Nick Eicher.

Speaker 1:
[07:15] And I'm Myrna Brown. It's Culture Friday. And John Stone Street is here. He's president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. Good morning, John. Good morning. Well, I should say you are in Washington, DC., because that's where you are right now. And it's important to say that because that is how we're starting our discussion. Talking about this event in DC at the Museum of the Bible, it's America Reads the Bible. And hundreds of people, including you, John, have been taking turns reading through every verse in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, even President Trump got involved. This event, the goal of this event, that a hunger is released over our country and that people realize that God speaks through his word. So John, in a culture that is consumed with binge watching, you know, the organizers of America Reads the Bible certainly had the right idea. The question is, will it stick and what did you read?

Speaker 10:
[08:32] That's a good question. I got a great passage to read. Jezebel getting killed, thrown from the tower and eaten by dogs. Jehu driving like a bat out of hell. This is my translation there of the King James that we read. I mean, listen, of all the passages, that was one of the ones that I remembered from that. You remember those old picture Bibles for kids? I mean, the old ones that didn't edit any out, you know, had every story, including those stories that we might call PG-13 today. That was mine. So, you know, the president, for his part, read from two Chronicles, I mean, second Chronicles, which was, which was, which was, which was, I mean, sorry, that's low-hanging fruit. You just had to go there. It is the right idea. Listen, I mean, one of the things we have to ask is, what is it that we believe about the Word of God? You know, there were people in this lineup, there were partners that came together on this, that wouldn't come together on other projects. They would have divides over maybe particular issues or the engagement level that Christians should have in politics or anything like that. And for our part at the Coulson Center, we're just like, look, the Word of God is sharp. It's sharper than any two-edged sword. It gets right to the heart of the matter. It lays us open in front of God. And there's power in and of itself that it accomplishes what the Lord wants to accomplish from it. And it can't be a bad thing. It's always a good thing, too, to be able to go and visit the Museum of the Bible. Two of my kids got to run around, see some of the incredible exhibits about the impact that the Word of God has had in human history, about the impact that the Word of God has in this city of DC. If you just go from building to building to building, the number of references that are Biblical, that point to things that are good and true, having to do with being a good citizen, being a good government, being a moral people. I mean, these are all Biblical truths that are literally stamped onto our nation, and often, of course, things that we reject and forget. And a lot of us who read are those who have forgotten, and we need to be reminded of these things. So, I was a fan of the event. It seemed like it got some good attention, which was fun, and people, at least for a little bit, the Bible was a top trending thing on Twitter, which, you know, compared to what's often trending on formally known as Twitter, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] Yeah, there you go. Well, John, another DC-based question for you. The Supreme Court this week agreed to hear a case next term, so we're not going to get a decision for at least a year from now. So this comes from your home state of Colorado, which, you know, has this habit of getting dragged to the Supreme Court to be admonished for one reason or another. And this one involves the state's universal pre-K program. Colorado says, it's open to everyone so long as providers follow strict nondiscrimination rules, which of course are written in such a way that confessional schools tend to bump up against the rules. But a group of Catholic and Protestant schools is pushing back on this. They point out the state already allows a fair amount of selectivity in the service of the LGBT agenda and other reasons. Providers can prioritize low-income families. They can target certain demographic groups, even exclude some families in order to meet state-defined social goals. So here's the question. If the state can be selective for reasons like those, why is it a legal deal-breaker for a school to remain confessional, to hire and operate according to its statement of faith? So how do you see this one? Is this genuinely a case, do you think, of anti-religious bias? Or is it simply the state saying, you know, he who pays the pipe recalls the tune?

Speaker 10:
[12:38] Well, I mean, listen, the question is, you know, what is it going to be to the Supreme Court? The Supreme Court has spoken on these kinds of issues over and over and over and over again. Now, as you mentioned, the state of Colorado doesn't seem to care one whit what the Supreme Court has said or the fact that they will once again have to go and get a verbal lashing or at least a written verbal lashing at the hands of these justices. But the Supreme Court has been really clear. If you have a state program, you can think of the Trinity Lutheran, you know, recycled tire case for playgrounds. You know, there's many others. If you have a state program, all people are welcome to participate, all groups are welcome to participate except for one. And over and over, the Supreme Court has said you cannot rule a group out simply because they're Christian, simply because they're religious, simply because they're holding to their statement of faith unless there's compelling interest. Now, I'll tell you right now, the state of Colorado believes that their social agenda is compelling interest for everything else. There's only one issue here that the state of Colorado cares about for Christian schools, and it is this one. It has to do with advancing this sexual ideology, and our state's committed to it. It's probably because our governor is a homosexual and a homosexual marriage, having bypassed a mother in order to acquire children. It probably has to do with the priorities stated and lived out of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, which has violated the civil rights of many of its citizens over and over, but believes it has this justified position because of this one issue, and because of their desire to make the entire state conform to this ideology. That's why Colorado is an outlier on these, and they just will not let it go. They will find more and more and more ways to penalize people of faith in order to advance this agenda.

Speaker 2:
[14:37] Well, John, I'd like to turn to something a little more positive. Something you may have heard from Justice Clarence Thomas this week. He gave a speech looking ahead to America's 250th anniversary. We played some excerpts from that speech on the program a couple of days ago. One of the central points Justice Thomas made was this. The principles of the Declaration, human equality, rights, dignity, these are not abstract theories. He said they were lived realities even for people like him who grew up under segregation because the rights didn't come from government. They came instead from God and Justice Thomas was warning that modern thinking, particularly progressivism, tends to flip that around, treating rights as though they are something government gives and therefore can redefine. Just a terrific speech. Justice Thomas, I think, is a national treasure. Did you happen to catch those remarks?

Speaker 10:
[15:39] Yeah, it was a tremendous speech and what we're seeing is a justice who was pretty well known for the first more than a decade, couple decades into his career as a Supreme Court justice for being quiet, for listening, and for then articulating very clearly the nuances of the law and how it applied to the case that he was writing on. But in more recent years, really, I think, trying to establish a conservative jurisprudence legacy as the heir of Antonin Scalia in many ways. Thomas just straightforward. I think the more that he is willing to be outspoken like this, it's going to do all of us, including the future of the Supreme Court, really in an incredible favor. I'm old enough to remember where the number one thing we all worried about was the Supreme Court being in such a progressive direction, not basing anything on natural law or even the Constitution, but really seeing famously the Constitution as a living document and so on. So basically, the job here is not just to rule differently with a different majority, it's to rebuild a jurisprudence that was, I think, greatly threatened in previous decades prior to the way this particular court has been put together.

Speaker 1:
[17:00] Well, John, you did a break point recently on taking a life to save an organ. I'm a bit surprised that you went there, that you touched this issue because it's really sticky. Becoming an organ donor is as easy as getting your license renewed. People feel very deeply about this issue because thousands of lives have been saved through organ transplantation and donation. So here's my question. How do we understand this from a biblical worldview when the Bible is silent on organ donation?

Speaker 10:
[17:37] It is a very difficult one. I mean, listen, we're living on the tail end of a century where the definition of death has changed over a dozen times, and we're still not always clear. We also have these reports, and that's the other troubling part. Because this has been accepted as such a unmitigated good, organ donation of the tendency of hospitals to rush certain people to death in order to harvest organs. Of course, we also have academic journals coming out of the medical community, which basically precede policy, in which there are really encouragements to do as much, particularly with individuals perhaps who are facing permanent disability. A lot of times, if you read it, it's the same kind of justification as for doctor assisted suicide. There's this move that starts, death is inevitable, so therefore. But then it quickly becomes not just that death is inevitable, but the prognosis is, I want to quote, hopeless. That is a big, big word that can carry weight in an awful lot of directions. What do we mean by hopeless? Something that will kill us, something that will never recover from, something that we'll have to live with for the rest of our lives, and so on. It just is a muddy thing. Think about how this, as you said, and rightfully so, thousands of lives have been saved. Here you have this incredible life-saving alternative that's been introduced to the medical community just recently, and what we have now are new headlines. The headlines are no longer heralding how wonderful this is. The headlines now herald that there is a dramatic shortage in organs to be donated. Now, it doesn't take really a lot to read between the lines and say, well, what they're saying is more people need to die so that more people could live. That becomes a trade-off that has to be carefully thought through. It's got to be carefully governed by some hard fixed line. That's my whole point is we don't have a hard fixed line, especially when it comes to particular members of the human community whose value is already deeply questioned anyway. Now, this is something that's been in place for a long time. But for a long time, the science has run way ahead of the ethics. When that happens, there's usually the vulnerable that end up becoming targets of our compassion and charity.

Speaker 2:
[20:07] All right, John Stone Street is president of the Coulson Center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. Thanks, John. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 10:
[20:15] Thank you both.

Speaker 11:
[20:26] Additional support comes from the Lockman Foundation, translator of the New American Standard Bible, a translation true to the original scriptures, nasbible.com. From Pensacola Christian College, Academic Excellence, Biblical World View, Affordable Cost, go.pcci.edu/world. And from Dordt University, host of the upcoming At Work in the Garden Conference, celebrating God's good design of work, dordt.edu/garden.

Speaker 2:
[21:20] Today is Friday, April 24th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning, I'm Nick Eicher.

Speaker 1:
[21:27] And I'm Myrna Brown. Coming next on The World and Everything In It, Science and Faith. A new film is out aiming to challenge the narrative that science and faith are in conflict. It's called The Story of Everything. It's a documentary based on Stephen Meyer's book, Return of the God Hypothesis. Stephen Meyer is a former geophysicist and college professor. He now directs the Center for Science and Culture in Seattle. Welcome, Stephen. So good to have you.

Speaker 3:
[21:59] It's nice to be with you, Myrna.

Speaker 1:
[22:01] Well, right out of the gate, I'll admit, science, not my favorite subject growing up. So for the listener, who may be like me, freezing up just at the mention of the word, allay our fears here. Tell us why we shouldn't be afraid of science.

Speaker 3:
[22:19] Well, science is just what we get to know about the world that God made all around us. And so all of us have scientific knowledge of some kind or other, and there's some that focus their careers on it and get more specialized knowledge. But I had a student, Myrna, that was a favorite of my wife, Selaine. And one day she came up to babysit and she told my wife, don't tell Steve that I skipped the history of science class. She said, but I'm just a science loser, she said. So we tried to try to remedy that by making the lectures very accessible. And I think we got made a little progress.

Speaker 1:
[22:58] Science loser. Sometimes I feel like that.

Speaker 3:
[23:01] Yeah, a lot of people feel that way. It doesn't need to be intimidating. And I think the most powerful evidences from from science or from nature that support what I call the God hypothesis, the idea that there is a transcendent, intelligent mind and creator behind the things we see. Some of those those discoveries are actually very easy to understand. And it's easy to understand why scientists have come to the conclusion that they may be pointing to God.

Speaker 1:
[23:28] Let's talk about a popular narrative that science and faith are at war. As I mentioned earlier, how does the story of everything make the case that the evidence is actually pointing in the opposite direction?

Speaker 3:
[23:44] That's a perfect question. Science began in a Christian context. You had figures like Boyle and Newton and Johannes Kepler and many others who started to study nature in a very systematic way because they were confident that nature had secrets to reveal because it had been made by the same God who made our minds in his image, so that there was rationality built into the universe. And during the late 19th century, this idea kind of receded and waned as more and more scientists thought that they could explain the origin of things without reference to any kind of designing intelligence or creator. We can think of Darwin and his theory about the origin of new species and new forms of life. But then in the 20th century, and this is the story of the film, the story of everything, there were three great discoveries that were made. First, the discovery that the universe itself, as best we can tell, had a beginning. And that suggested the need for an external creator, some thing or someone beyond the universe, with the power to initiate a massive change from nothing to something. The second discovery was the discovery of something that physicists now call the fine-tuning. The idea that there are very basic parameters of physics, the strength of gravitational attraction, or the strength of electromagnetic attraction, or the strength of the force that's causing the universe to expand outward from that beginning point. All of these things turn out to fall within very narrow tolerances or ranges, outside of which life and even basic chemistry would be impossible. And that has, to many scientists, suggested that there must have been a fine-tuner. And then the third and I think most compelling discovery of all is the discovery that our lives depend essentially on an automated factory, on a miniaturized scale that's all being governed by millions and millions of lines of code. So we wouldn't explain the origin of the iPhone without reference to Steve Jobs, right? And in the same way, we are discovering inside life distinctive features of design systems. And one of those most striking features is the presence of literally digital code that's directing the construction of little tiny miniature machines that keep us alive.

Speaker 1:
[26:01] Last question, when the credits roll, what is the one question you want every viewer to be asking themselves?

Speaker 3:
[26:10] The question I think we leave people with is the sense of, does my life have meaning? I did an interview with Piers Morgan in Britain a couple of years ago, and we were talking about this crisis of meaning that people don't believe that their own lives have any lasting or enduring meaning. And that makes sense if you're a materialist, because nothing can mean anything to a rock or to a planet or to even to a DNA molecule. Things only mean things to persons, and yet we all die. And so unless there's a person whose existence persists beyond our grave, beyond our death, there's no possibility of ultimate meaning. And I think a lot of the young people in particular sense that. I think it underlies a lot of the sense of anxiety that people have. It certainly affected me that way when I was a teenager. And so the evidence that there is a transcendent god, a god who made the universe and whose life will continue beyond our time on the planet, I think puts the question of personal meaning back on the table. Gives us a basis for thinking, you know, I might matter after all. There's someone who made me and may even care about me.

Speaker 1:
[27:20] And I'm not a science loser either.

Speaker 3:
[27:23] I'm not a science loser.

Speaker 12:
[27:25] Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[27:26] You're not either. You did ask great questions, and thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[27:29] Well, the film is The Story of Everything. Stephen Meyer, thank you for your time today.

Speaker 3:
[27:35] Thanks for having me on and thank you to your listeners. We know some very devoted listeners to The World and Everything In It. Shout out to them.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] Good morning. This is The World and Everything In It from listener-supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.

Speaker 2:
[28:13] And I'm Nick Eicher. Time now for listener feedback for the month of April. And we begin with a correction from our coverage of the rescue of the Americans in Iran. In one of our interviews, we referred to the occupant of the rear cockpit, the one involved in the longer of the rescue operations. Using the wrong title, we referred to him as pilot. When the correct title is Weapon Systems Officer, or WSO, they call that WIZO in military shorthand.

Speaker 1:
[28:44] Now to feedback. Keaton Kleiner from Omaha, Nebraska, shared a different perspective on our April 15th story about college athletes coming to faith at Christian schools.

Speaker 13:
[28:55] As someone who attended a Christian school that heavily emphasized athletics, I saw firsthand how this dynamic can play out. While there's no doubt that some athletes came to know Christ, the overall effect on campus was more complicated. The presence of a large number of non-Christian athletes undermined the school's Christian values. Over time, chapel services shifted away from deeper engagement with scripture toward repeated efforts to lead athletes in the sinner's prayer. The broader spiritual life of the school became centered on on-campus evangelism rather than equipping believers to enter the secular world with a deeply rooted faith. It seems to me that evangelizing on secular campuses is both appropriate and effective. However, attempting to do so through athletics within Christian institutions can unintentionally erode the very foundation those schools are meant to uphold. To me, I view this as the purpose of the school to equip the called or to save the lost.

Speaker 2:
[29:52] Tim Smith had this to say about Hunter Baker's argument on ending the filibuster in the Senate.

Speaker 12:
[29:59] I am frustrated with how Congress struggles to get things done like a lot of people. But dismissing the filibuster as just a Senate rule because it's not part of the Constitution doesn't really capture its place in our history. It's been around since the nation's early years and it served a very important purpose. I think a better approach would be to bring back the spoken filibuster. If senators want to block a bill, they should have to stand there and speak and keep speaking to hold it up. That would force real debate and make them work to express something more meaningful. Eventually, they would run out of steam, but it would allow time for real arguments to be heard and for Americans to listen to both sides. There's wisdom in a multitude of counsel and this kind of process could help Congress function better, while still giving the opposition a fair tool if they're willing to work for it.

Speaker 1:
[30:51] And Cassidy Rich from Phoenix had this response to Julianna Chan Erickson's story about the Gen Z dating scene.

Speaker 14:
[30:59] As a single Christian woman who just turned 31, I wanted to provide some insight into what it's like on the ground. For many Christian singles, I've run into variations of the same problems with each guy I've dated. Typically, he either has a porn addiction, he's not truly a follower of Christ, and or doesn't want to support his wife as a stay-at-home mom. Some people ask me where I'm meeting these quote-unquote not-good guys, and I tell them, church, Bible studies, Christian dating apps, being set up by Christian friends, church speed dating events, and hiking slash pickleball groups through various churches. Porn and video game addictions are rampant among guys in their 20s and 30s, guys aren't pursuing careers in which they can support a family, and very few churches are calling guys out on these issues. I know it's not all the guys' fault in that women play a part. Many guys have told me that women they've gone out with often only talk about themselves, are ungrateful and complaining about everything, and if the guy does one thing even slightly wrong, she'll never go out with him again. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to this problem, but if I could suggest something for single Christians, it would be this. Guys, pursue a career that can support a family. You don't have to be rich, just responsible. Also, stop watching porn and stop playing video games. Get accountability. Women, stop emasculating men. Encourage them when they seem down, and always, always, always be sweet. No guy wants to be with a woman who is critical all the time. If you want to be a stay-at-home mom, start saving your money now and learn to be frugal so you can be a blessing to your husband financially. Thank you, WORLD team, for continuing to do the Lord's work.

Speaker 1:
[32:49] Tom Covington from Lafayette, Indiana, wrote in about Danny Burke's April 14th commentary regarding a meme posted by President Trump.

Speaker 15:
[32:59] I was very pleasantly floored by today's opinion piece on blasphemy. I know that world pays a cost whenever it pushes back against words or actions of the current administration, so I appreciate the courage and moral clarity. God bless you guys.

Speaker 2:
[33:16] Finally, a word of thanks from a young woman who is encouraged by Travis Kircher's story April 10th about the barista who says she was fired for sharing the gospel with coworkers. Here is listener Elizabeth Smalley.

Speaker 14:
[33:30] I had a very similar situation at my job recently, but praise the Lord, my employers weren't too upset about it and I was able to keep my job, but it was very encouraging and a great reminder to just share my faith and to be faithful to God's word no matter the circumstances and no matter the consequences. So thank you for that. I appreciate all that you do.

Speaker 2:
[33:53] And we appreciate you too and all of our listeners to The World and Everything In It and everyone who sent comments in this month. If you'd like to share your thoughts with us, just email editor at wng.org. That is editor at wng.org.

Speaker 1:
[34:11] And that's this month's Listener Feedback.

Speaker 2:
[34:14] Quick reminder before we go, Myrna, we've got a special weekend edition of The World and Everything In It tomorrow. It is the extended interview that you did with David Nasser. Really great interview. He's the Iran born pastor and author who fled the country with his family during the 1979 revolution. I cannot wait to hear the rest of that. And you can too tomorrow wherever you get your podcasts. All right, time now to name the crew who contributed to this week's programs. Mary Reichard, Jenny Ruff, David Bonson, Mary Muncie, Hunter Baker, Mark Mellinger, Carolina Lumetta, Onise Adua, Todd Vition, Janie B. Chaney, Cal Thomas, Lauren Canterbury, John Stone Street, and Josh Gagne. Thanks also to our Breaking News crew, Kent Covington, Steve Kloosterman, Travis Kurcher, Daniel Devine, and Christina Grube. And thanks to the Moonlight Maestros, Tech Producers, Benj Eicher and Carl Peets. Emma Eicher is Assistant Producer, Harrison Waters is Washington Producer, Kristen Flavin is Features Editor, Lindsay Mast is Producer, I'm Executive Producer, Nick Eicher.

Speaker 1:
[35:34] And I'm Myrna Brown. The World and Everything In It comes to you from World Radio. World's Mission is Biblically Objective Journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible says, I gave you a land on which you had not labored and cities that you had not built and you dwell in them. You eat the fruit of vineyards and olive orchards that you did not plant. Now, therefore, fear the Lord and serve him in sincerity and in faithfulness. Put away the gods that your father served beyond the river and in Egypt and serve the Lord. And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your father served in the region beyond the river or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Verses 13 through 15 of Joshua chapter 24. Be sure and gather at the house of the Lord this weekend, a Bible-believing church where you will experience the hope of Jesus. And Lord willing, we'll meet you right back here on Monday. Go now and grace and peace.