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Speaker 1:
[00:00] You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back to another show. We have the privilege of talking to Doris today. Welcome to the show, Doris. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2:
[00:41] I'm doing great. It's a beautiful spring day today. Loving it.

Speaker 1:
[00:44] Absolutely. A little bit about Doris. Doris is a artist, art educator in a... It sounds like lifelong environmentalist.

Speaker 2:
[00:54] Yep, correct. Yep, sure am.

Speaker 1:
[00:57] And you've done... It sounds like you've done a lot of work in that regard, and we might even talk about that later, but we got connected regarding some interesting experiences you've had happen over the years in... Around, I would say, Western Maryland?

Speaker 2:
[01:16] Yep, Western Maryland and Eastern part of West Virginia.

Speaker 1:
[01:21] Fantastic. Is there anything else you would want the listeners to know for context about yourself before we get going?

Speaker 2:
[01:28] Not too much, just that I'm an artist. I like to do plein air painting, and I do watercolor painting, and I also care a lot about the environment. I volunteer for a nonprofit that does water testing all summer long, and we collect water and they do testing to make sure the water is safe for swimming and for recreating. And I just enjoy being outside. I bicycle on the C&O Canal quite often. I do day trips and I do long trips. I do overnights on the canal. And my husband and I have camped for many, many years. Our kids grew up camping. And when I was a kid, I lived in Baltimore in the city. I grew up in the city and my dad, they didn't have a lot of money, but every summer my dad would take us out to one of the state parks or the eastern shore, and we would go fishing and biking and camping. So it's sort of been a lifelong, lifelong thing for me and for my family. I kind of took that over to my kids and took them places. Every summer with my kids, I took them out west or I took them somewhere for a month. I said it was mom's summer camp. So we've done a lot out in the outdoors. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:42] That's awesome. And when you say out west, were you going like west coast or how far out west?

Speaker 2:
[02:49] The first year I took them, they were really small. We went to the Grand Canyon. I've taken them to Rocky Mountain National Park, taken them to Glacier National Park. We've been also to Nova Scotia and Canada, and all around this area in Maryland, up to the East Coast, to Maine. So I take them to different places every summer. So I really wanted them to see how beautiful our country is. And I really wanted them to respect the environment. So that's what I did for them for every summer.

Speaker 1:
[03:21] So how did you get involved with becoming an environmentalist?

Speaker 2:
[03:28] Just because I just cared about what was going on with things going on in our environment. I mean, over the years being old, I've seen a lot of changes in our environment. And so I've always tried to keep a tap on what's going on. And then several years ago out in Western Maryland, they wanted to put a gas pipeline underneath the C&O Canal and then underneath the Potomac River. So I was with the group in that we decided we did not really think this was a good thing. This area of the C&O Canal and this actually area of Maryland and West Virginia has karst geology. The geology there is very brittle. There's a lot of limestone and things. And when they put in these pipelines, they use fracking fluid to dig underneath. And if they have a blowout, all those chemicals can go into the river, to the Potomac River. So we did actually, the state of Maryland, because Maryland does own the Potomac River. So they did, the governor did stop that from going through, which we were happy about. So the protests did work. So they do work sometimes.

Speaker 1:
[04:40] That's fantastic, good for you.

Speaker 2:
[04:42] PFAS right now is a big problem in our water. Every year, I test my drinking water, because we live in a community with a group well. And I test it and every year it seems to get, the PFAS chemicals seem to get worse and they are cancer causing. So, and I really want to educate people about, the environment and try to protect people. They should try to filter their water, make sure their wells get tested every year, have someone come out and just take care of them and make sure everything is okay for drinking. Because if you drink in bad water, it can make you real, real sick.

Speaker 1:
[05:18] Absolutely. What is PFAS?

Speaker 2:
[05:22] It is chemicals and they put it on, it was also used for firefighting foam. It was in the foam for firefighting. And they put it on like tents and clothing. A lot of the plastics that we use to wrap up our food that come in as PFAS. It comes in shampoo. I mean, it's called Forever Chemicals. You can look it up online. It's very, very dangerous chemical. And we have not been able to get our government to stop producing these. A lot of companies on their own have stopped using the chemicals in outdoor wear and outdoor tenting material and that kind of thing, which is really good. So and now farmers are trying to use this biochemical to put on their fields. And this stuff is very bad. It can get into the food. And they're saying now fruits and vegetables, 90% of fruits and vegetables now have some kind of small amount of PFAS in it. And these are all building up in our body and they are cancer causing. So I hope that people can learn about it. And if you have a well, get your well tested and get some filters that can help you be safer. So anyway, it's been good to try to help the environment. I really do care about the environment.

Speaker 1:
[06:54] Which is, we need it right now for sure. And it is an interesting pattern that comes up when I talk to individuals that are into the Bigfoot subject and they have those connections. And some of them even end up becoming, I guess you could say, environmentalists as well, to try to protect the area that the Bigfoot are in or to try to clear, you know, clean up trash. I've heard individuals get really involved, you know, they're told in different ways to clean up the trash in certain areas and to just help out the environment, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2:
[07:34] Sasquatch really is, I think they are keepers of our Earth. I do. I think that they are our brothers. I think that they are human. They are people, you know, and I think that it's really important for people to understand that they are there, and they're looking out for us, and they're looking out for Earth. And after I realized, like, all these experiences that I was having was that I couldn't explain. I was like, oh, this is really, really like crazy. But how I figured out was because of your podcast. My dad and my sister passed away 10 days apart in 2024. And so I was having a real rough time. So I would go on YouTube, and I like history and art and that kind of thing, environmental stuff. And so Paul Wallace's podcast came up, that's called the Fifth Kind TV, Paul Wallace. And he's a minister in Australia. And he has gone back and looked at the Bible and the history, ancient history, and he has really confirmed for me that the Bible is full of extraterrestrials. It's full of flying saucers, and that we have basically as humans lost our history. We were good at forgetting. So that got me interested in watching that. And then your podcast came up, and I started watching your podcast. And I was like, oh, this is really interesting because there's lots of things like people were describing that had happened to me, that I didn't really realize. I just put it off as, oh yeah, in the woods, strange things happen. You know, every time in the woods, weird, sometimes weird things happen. So I was listening to some podcasts, and I heard the sounds of what Bigfoot was. And I looked at them and I played it for my husband. And I said, Greg, these are the sounds that we heard in Cooper's Rock National Forest in West Virginia. And we were camping there. This was in 2017. And my husband, he's a motorcycle journalist. And we were going there to visit a museum for him to do a story. So we went out there and we stopped there at the Cooper's Rock National Forest. They have a very nice campground there. It's small, but it's really nice. They actually have two. But we were in the one that was closer to the road. And I like that area because they have the Civilian Conservation Corps in 1936, built a lot of these parks and the structures are beautiful. And they built the cabins and the picnic areas of big stones and logs and all of that. But during the Great Depression, after the Great Depression, they were putting people back to work by doing that. So I thought it was really cool. So we stopped there. And there's this beautiful lookout. There's a big rock that has the Conservation Corps built a walkway over to it. And you can go out and you can see, you stand on this rock and you can see across the, if you look down, is the Sheet River. And then you can see the mountain across. You're basically standing on the mountain and you look across, there's another mountain there. So we were camping there. I think we stayed there two nights. It was the mid October in 2017. And we were in our little teardrop camper. My husband and I built a couple teardrop campers over the years. And we were sitting around, I guess it was eight, nine o'clock at night, and we had a campfire going. And we were just hanging out, chatting away. And it was on the side of the mountain and the campground was not very big. There was only three of us. I think it was during the week. It was only three people in the campground. It was a couple in a Class A that was camped a couple of sites away from us. Then it was us in their little teardrop. And then I could see across the campsite that there was someone in a car camping. And that was the only people that were in the campground. And Greg and I were the only people that were out that were having the campfire. So all of a sudden, to the left of us, down the mountain, I guess it's probably a quarter of a mile away, we hear coyote sounds. And I'm like, I mean, it was dead quiet because it's October. There's no birds or frogs or anything because it's fall. And this coyote is just howling away. And I looked at my husband and said, oh, there's coyotes around here. That's kind of interesting. So no sooner did that stop. And then I heard this whoop, whoop, whoop. And which was to the right of us in the campground. And it was much closer. Well, the hair stood up on my neck. I looked at my husband and I said, I don't know what this is. I don't know any animal that makes that sound. And I said, the hair is standing up on my neck. I said, I think it's time to go to bed. So we put out the fire and we went to bed. And I didn't know about Bigfoot. I had no clue. I thought Bigfoot was just a mythical creature or a folktale or something like that. I just really didn't know. So then I started listening to your podcast and I was like, well, I listened to a couple and I was like, wonder what they sound like? And I went and played the sounds of Bigfoot and I said to my husband, oh my gosh, we saw Bigfoot. And I'm like, that's really cool. So I said, you know, I said to him, I said, but there was all these other kind of weird things that happened to us while we were camping. And I told him, I said, I said, I don't know, these are unexplained things. It has to have explanation to this. So a couple of years ago was the early 2000s. Our kids were little. We would always do a fall camping trip with another family. They had three kids and we had three kids. And we had two other couples that came with us. And they would hang out with us for a weekend. We do a weekend like a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I can't remember which year it was because we didn't have digital photos and I didn't dig through all of our photos to see if I could find a picture. But it was the early 2000s because my kids were little. They were small. So we went to Greenbrier State Park, which is in Washington County, Maryland. And we were having a campfire, big campfire, the flames, you know, big. The kids were all running around. We're having a beer too. We're being loud. My friend likes to camp. He likes to play music. So we were playing music. And all of a sudden, we heard this cracking sound. And it was like a tree. You know, when you went to Tree Falls, you hear the roots being pulled up. It was like crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. And I'm praying. As soon as I heard it, I'm like, a tree is going to fall. And it was like right next to us. We were in a campsite that was on the corner. And across the road was a little hill that kind of went up, a little incline. And I'm thinking, please God, don't let this tree fall into our campsite. We have the kids here, we're all hanging out, and I'm praying in my head. So all of a sudden, and while I'm saying this, the cracking sound was comically long. It went on for a really long time. This tree was taking its good old time falling. So finally it falls and we hear, bam. And we all look at each other as like, thank God this tree did not fall in our campsite. So we hung out a little while longer and finally went to bed. So the next morning I wake up, I come out, the kids want breakfast and I'm getting them stuff. So I come out of my tent. I look over on that hill, there is no fallen tree, nothing. And I looked, I'm like, what is that all about? I'm like, because I could hear the tree was right across the road on that hill. And I said to my husband, I'm like, that is bizarre. There is no fallen tree. Plus we were in a state park, and most of the state parks have the DNR come through, you know, when they clear out the trees that are going to fall, you know, that are bad, and that, you know, because there's going to be people there. So they're always kind of clearing up stuff. And I just thought that was strange. And I'd never heard of like a story where, you know, Bigfoot could make sounds like that. You know, so I, you know, I figured, I don't know what it was. But I mean, I'm pretty sure that it had something to do with Bigfoot because I had another experience in 2023. I went on a, I bicycle on the C&O Canal all the time. And I have a recumbent trike. It's two wheels in the front and one in the back. And I did the whole C&O Canal from Cumberland to DC in 2020. And then in 2023, I just went to, it was the summer, it was August, and I remember it was, we had a little cold front come through. So the weather was going to be like, I don't know, 75 to 85. The weather was going to be perfect. And I said to my husband, he was working at the time. It was before he retired. I said, I'm just going to go take a couple of nights and bike up the canal to Hancock and will you pick me up in a couple of days? And he said, yeah, I'll pick you up. No problem. So he dropped me off in Brunswick and I biked up, the C&O Canal going west. And I went up and I biked over the Antietam Creek, which is an old aqueduct. I biked over that, I passed Antietam Campground. And then I biked up to the end of where the bridge goes across. There's Canal Road follows that area. There's a canal road that follows it called Canal Road. And when you get to the end of that, the canal road goes up the big hill there, up that bluff. And there's Route 34. And on the other side of the river is Shepherdstown, West Virginia. And then on the, if you go two miles into Sharpsburg, on 34, it's not far from Sharpsburg. But I have to tell you a little bit about Sharpsburg. Sharpsburg is where the Battle of Antietam happened in 1862. September 17th, 1862. It was the bloodiest battle of the Civil War. I, every time we go there, my ears ring. I can't like stay there for very long. I've tried, they've had painting, like plein air painting outings there. And I would go there and I could only stay for a little while because it was just so, it's just, I don't know how to explain it. It's just noisy. I don't know if there's people that are sensitive to spirit or whatever. I just go there and it's just really, really noisy. So we have that going on, which is like two miles from the campsite that I bike to. So I bike to underneath the Route 34, the bridge and it's two miles to the hiker biker campsite. So the way it's laid out is on the right is a big bluff. And it's got caves in it because it's called the Islandberg Cave. And during that Antietam Civil War battle, a lot of the people, the townspeople in Sharpsburg came there and they stayed in the caves for several days because of the battle. They didn't, they wanted to get their kids, the women and the kids came there because they felt safe. So it's kind of eerie, it's kind of an eerie area anyway. But then, so I'm biking, I bike down and I saw a man who was doing a through hike on the Discovery, American Discovery Trail. And he was gonna walk across the country. So I stopped, talked to him for a while and he goes, oh yeah, I'm gonna stay at that campsite tonight. And I said, oh good. I said, then I won't be by myself, that'll be good. So I camped, went down and I set up my tent and I did some drawing, made dinner, made myself some food. And then it was, guess it was starting to get dark and there was another guy that was on a bicycle. And he came into the campsite, he goes, I bike from DC today, 85 miles, I must be exhausted. So he had a hammock. And the way the hiker biker campsite is set up is that there's two levels to it because you have the bluff where the caves are. Then there's a dip where the C&O Canal was. Sometimes there's water in it, sometimes it's dry. Now it has trees and stuff growing in it. Different areas have water, some areas do, some areas don't. And then there's the tow path which you ride on. And then I went down like four feet and was the top of that hiker biker campsite. And then down about 10 more feet was another lower part of the hiker biker campsite that sat right on the Potomac River. So you could see the whole Potomac from there. I mean, they were like two feet from the river. So both those guys were down there. And I set up my tent at the top, because I have a trike. I couldn't get my bike down there anyway. So I was more at the top. So I chatted with this guy for a little while. So he set up his hammock. And then when it gets dark and I've biked all day, I'm tired because I'm an old lady. So I need to get my rest. So I went to bed. I guess it was like eight o'clock. I fell asleep. So I guess it was about 10 or 11 o'clock. I guess it was 11 o'clock. I was awakened by this huge splashing sound in the river. There was a bend and you couldn't really see down the river. It was very close to the campsite, which was like, wow, this is crazy. But what it sounded like is there were like people in there and they looked, it sounded like they were smacking their hands on the top of the water. Do you know how loud that is when you smack open hand, you smack it on the top of the water? It's like really loud. So this went on for hours. I mean, I did finally fall back to sleep. So it went on for hours and hours. And I didn't, I was like, well, I don't have, I don't carry a lot of equipment. I didn't have any big flashlight. I mean, I could have walked down the canal and pointed my flashlight down, but it's all treed and there's bushes. I might not have been able to see down to the river because it's a drop, you know, a 15, 20 foot drop there. So I probably couldn't have seen anything anyway, but I didn't have a flashlight on me. So I wake up in the morning, finally stops. I mean, but it was hours. It was like four or five hours. And all I can think of is that it had to be Bigfoot, Sasquatch either there in a family or more than one because it was very, very loud. And I think they were fishing. I think they were taking their hands and trying to grab fish. I think that that's what they were doing is fishing in the river. So I wake up in the morning, I guess, about seven. I made myself breakfast. I packed up my bag and my tent and put everything back on the trike. And I start triking. And a trike is a lot slower than a bike. I just take my time because I like I'm like a biker tourist. I need to look at the trees and see the animals. And early in the morning, there's deer and all of that. So it was really nice. So I guess an hour, an hour and a half in this, the guy that came later in the evening, bicycle, he was going really fast, like he was trying to catch me. And he was biking really fast and he pulled his bike in front of my trike so I couldn't move. And he said, Did you hear all that noise in the river last night? He goes, Oh my God, all night long, it went on for hours. He says, I swear it was a bear. And I said to him, I said, I don't know what it was, but I don't think it was a bear. And this is before I knew about, you know, Sasquatch and the kinds of things, how they live and the places that they go and the things that they do. So he said, I said, well, I don't know how a bear would get there because it's two miles from Sharpsburg and Shepherdstown on the canal. And it's this big bluff. There's no way to come down there. The only way you could get out of there was to go one direction or the other. And the other direction was a mile and a half to Snyders Landing. And I said, a bear would have to walk down the canal to get in the water. And I said, it's a 20-foot drop. I just don't see how a bear, a black bear is gonna be able to do that. And from, and there are black bears here in Maryland, but when they see people, unless they have, they're protecting babies, they're gone. They don't mess with people at all. They're like, see you later. So I said to him, he says, well, what do you think it was? I said, I have no clue what it was. He says, but it went on for hours. He says, I didn't get a wink of sleep. And I said, yeah, man, it was really, really loud. So I just kept on on my tour and just kind of forgot about it because I didn't really know about Bigfoot at all. And, but I didn't know what it was. I mean, I was thinking maybe it could have been like a beaver or something, but there's no beavers in that river, in that river because it's big. You know, I just didn't, couldn't, and it was so loud. It was like, it was like a family. There's like a people, it was like a lot of people in the river splashing around. So, and this is the same area where someone just reported that they saw a Bigfoot family crossing Canal Road from, they were leaving Antietam Campground at midnight. This was just a couple weeks ago that that happened. And so it makes me even more confident that this was Sasquatch in the water, being there, you know, because I've never seen Sasquatch, but it just seems like these different strange things have always kind of happened and that I couldn't explain, but this explains it, you know, this really does kind of tie it all together. They called it River Road. River Road is the road that's across in West Virginia. It's called Canal Road because it follows the C&O Canal for like, I don't know, four miles there, right along the C&O Canal between, right there, between Antietam Campground and then up to where Route 34 Bridge is across. And they basically, it was just a few weeks ago, they basically said that somebody was leaving that campground at midnight. They were in their car and they were going down the road and they stopped because there was a family, there was like four, three or four Bigfoot in the road and they crossed the road in front of them. And he said that he just kind of stopped and was frozen. And then they crossed the road there and one of the Bigfoot, he says, was holding something and it looked like maybe it could have been a baby. It could have been a baby. And this was just a few weeks ago. I mean, like a month ago, maybe three, four weeks ago.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] Okay. And this would have been listed in Maryland then?

Speaker 2:
[26:29] Yes, it would have been listed in Maryland. Uh-huh. Washington County. That's interesting. It's in Washington County, Maryland. Yeah. So I am pretty confident that what was in that river that night was a sasquatch family or two sasquatches. It was more than one. And I really think they were fishing. They were getting food out of the river, but it went on for hours. So, and then I went to Colorado with my kids, you know, taking my kids out west. And I don't remember where it was, because we drove out with all of our tenting gear and everything, and I would just pull off the road in little forest service areas and pull off in camp and put up my tent and feed the kids and all that. So, but I think it was in, if I can remember rightly, it was in Colorado that we were passing through and going out west. And I was in the campsite, you know, you pay your $8 or your $10 to the forest campsite. We were the only people there. There was no one else at this campsite. And it was in a little clearing, and then there were woods like behind. So as I pull in there and I'm starting to set stuff up, I hear two people talking to one another in those woods. And I'm like, I couldn't understand what that was. Listen, really hard. Why would people, and I'm thinking, why would people be in the woods here? There's no one else around. There are two people talking in these woods. And I had three kids. I mean, I had three little kids. I wasn't going to go and investigate, you know, I had to get the tent set up and feed them dinner, and because usually we stop around three, four o'clock and all of that. So I never really stop to investigate. But my husband said to me the other day, he says, I think Bigfoot's been trying to get your attention. Sasquatch has been trying to get your attention for years. You've been up in these things. And once I watched your podcast about different experiences, all these experiences started coming back, like things that happened that I could not explain, that were just strange, you know? And I'm like, oh, well, you know, I mean, this could explain everything. This explains all the past experiences that were unexplained, you know? So I think that Bigfoot is, most people probably in the woods do have experiences, and they probably have things that happen that they can't explain, but they do, but they don't know what it is, so they never really realize, you know? But the only way I realized, Jeremiah, was because your podcast came up. And I really think, after my sister and my dad passed away, you know, I really was looking for things that were comforting. And knowing about that Sasquatch is real, because it is real, I know because I heard it, I heard the sounds, you know, I heard the whoops, I heard, I didn't really realize they did coyote sounds, but they do coyote sounds. And I was just like floored when I found out that, oh, and this has just been like a year and a half ago, you know, and that I really figured this out. And my husband would laugh because we camp a lot, and we always have things like stones or pine cones or tree or sticks coming off the trees, falling down an air campsite. And my husband would always laugh, he goes, squirrels, stop throwing stuff at us, you know. He would, I mean, and this happened like all the time, you know, when we were camping in all kinds of different places. And I looked at him, I said, so do you think that Sasquatch or the squirrels you were yelling at? They probably were, you know, but I think that people who camp, I think, and I think they're everywhere. And I think that if you have some kind of, I don't know, maybe openness, maybe that they're more pulled toward that. When we were in Greenbrier, we had the kids and we had the family, you know, we were families, you know, and it was a lot of us. So maybe they were just curious and wanted to get our attention. So they made this tree falling sound that scared all of us. But, so I just think that it's interesting and it's changed my whole perspective on how this world is. And it makes me kind of happy that we, that humans aren't the only entities that are driving what's happening in this world, because I don't ever want to see a nuclear war. I don't ever want to see any more pollution in our air. You know, when I was, when we had the pandemic, and this was in 2020. On Earth Day, 2022, I took a bicycle ride on the C&O Canal. And I had never seen the water so blue. It was, I have pictures. It was blue and sparkly, bright blue. But since then, with all the cars and the air pollution, the air pollution ends up in the water. And since there was not any air pollution, the water was just, it was so clean, I couldn't believe it. I was just in shock. I was like, wow. So I do think that the earth can repair itself, but we have, as humans, have to be on board. And I'm hoping that maybe ETs, star people, Sasquatch, all of these other psychic people from other places can help us because I think we really need it. I really think that we're in trouble, and I think that we really need it. You know, it's hard to go out and see garbage and plastic and see the degrading of our water. You know, every time it rains here and we do water testing in the summer, all the dirt from the roads and the salt and all the stuff from the fertilizers from the farmers all ends up in the streams and the water. There's E coli and there's bacteria and it's not safe. It's not safe to drink or to swim in. You know, anytime I'm on the C&O Canal, there's no water along there to drink. I take a water filter and water and filter my water out of there when I'm doing trips. Because the water is not clean there at all to just drink out of there. So but it's just really hard over the years because I've been doing this for a long time and over the years just seeing the degradation of our environment. So I think that it's really important. I think it's the number one thing that humans have to be worried about. We're poisoning us and we're poisoning ourselves by this PFAS, these Forever Chemicals. We need people in office that are gonna change the laws to try to help clean it up. It's just very sad.

Speaker 1:
[33:39] It is very sad and then also to see public lands potentially being taken away. There's a lot of stuff that people need to be aware of, but it is incredible the experiences that you've had over the years. I mean, in Colorado, when you said it sounded like there were two people talking to each other, have you heard any recordings that sound similar to that?

Speaker 2:
[34:05] Yes, I have. I've heard recordings from when they did the two guys that did the recordings of, I think it was out in California. It sounded exactly like that. I mean, it was a language, and they were talking to one another, and I could not understand what they were saying. And I wanted to go investigate, but I had three kids. I was cooking and taking care of them, and I didn't want to leave them in a campsite by themselves to go investigate. But now that my kids are grown up, and I'm planning a couple trips, I'm sure I'm going to do another canal trip on the C&O Canal again in that area this summer. And we have all kinds of little trips planned. We wanted to go out to the Northwest, but I don't know with the gas prices, if we have a gas shortage, we're probably not going to do that.

Speaker 1:
[34:56] I really hope that doesn't happen, but we can start to see stuff already.

Speaker 2:
[34:59] We have friends that live in Oregon, and they came here a couple years ago to visit us, and we wanted to go out there to visit them. I've never been to the Pacific Northwest, and I really want to go.

Speaker 1:
[35:08] That's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[35:10] Yeah. So I don't think that... I mean, it just depends on what's going on in our world, if we go or not.

Speaker 1:
[35:18] I agree 100%. For listeners that might not make the connection, the recording that Doris is talking about is the Sierra Sounds by Ron Moorhead in Albury in the Sierra Nevada area of California in the 1970s. So if you want to hear what she's talking about, you can just Google that and you'll find it on YouTube.

Speaker 2:
[35:42] Yeah, it's just amazing. So I've never seen Sasquatch. I mean, I've, you know, he's been, they've been around, they've been around us. So I would really like to see Sasquatch once, you know, just wave, know that they're around, you know, I mean, it just gives me hope that, you know, maybe that there's other entities here that will prevent us from doing, from doing worse damage to our environment. And so I really respect them, you know, and the Native Americans listening to all the Native American stories of the past, about all the, how they've interacted. It is definitely like a clan of people. I'm convinced that it's a clan of people. And I believe that humans, I believe that we're extraterrestrials. I think we were put here. I think that we were, we were extraterrestrials, like thousands of years ago, and they put us here, you know, to help them as well as Paul Wallace says as slaves, to help them mine from whatever they wanted.

Speaker 1:
[36:50] Oh, sure. Yeah, I've heard that line of thinking. Yep, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[36:55] We've just, you know, we're just them. So they're our brothers, you know, and I really think that they're a clan of people. And I really think that the government needs to tell people that these, that extraterrestrials and Sasquatch and all these crypto beings are real, so that people don't get caught off guard. And, you know, I see all these hunters, listen to all these hunters that are out in the woods and that, you know, they see something and they see Sasquatch and they're just totally floored and it's changed their whole life. I think that, you know, people should be, if they're in the woods, they should kind of understand that when you're in the woods, stuff happens. There's a reason why things happen. They just don't, I mean, I guess that's why they say the woods is magical. But, you know, there were so many times that we were out and things would happen and I would be just be like, oh, that's just strange. That's bizarre. I don't know how to explain. And then, you know, finally, being able to listen to your podcast and to all the people that have had these experiences, everything kind of came together. So, but I just wanted to share, you know, I just wanted to share.

Speaker 1:
[38:09] Thank you for sharing. It is cool to hear a series of accounts like that, what you've experienced over the years, because, you know, when you look at it from an outside view, like I'm looking at it, it does kind of feel like if you keep spending the time out in nature, you will probably have some type of experience even more wilder than you've experienced so far. It just comes down to the amount of time that you're able to spend out in the outdoors is what I think has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 2:
[38:50] And also how aware of your surroundings.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[38:54] You know, now I'll be more of aware, because a lot of times my husband and I, too, would be biking on the C&O Canal, and we'd smell bad smells, and I'd be like, oh, dead deer, you know, or dead animal. And I never really looked. But now that I know that sasquatch, you know, can put out a smell, I'll be more, I'll maybe stop and look around, you know, and see if I can find, you know, what was, what's making that, you know. And now that I'm more aware, then maybe I will see sasquatch now. That, you know, I have more awareness of what's happening and what's going on around me, you know. So.

Speaker 1:
[39:31] Absolutely. I think you're on, on the right trail in, you know, it's, it all comes down to being open. And I feel it comes down to being open in the right intention and all that, which you kind of mentioned before. But there was another question that I had for you. And it might be more back into the side of the environment. But does, does the term Silent Spring mean anything in, in that field?

Speaker 2:
[40:02] Yeah. For the Carson book. Yeah. She was one of the first people that came out and started writing about the environment. Yeah. An excellent, excellent book to read. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:14] Okay. So it's, it's an environmental.

Speaker 2:
[40:16] Yeah. It's an environmentalist. A lady, I think she was a scientist, wrote about, you know, how humans were, you know, ruining, ruining the earth, you know, and making it so the air we breathe is horrible. And, you know, I think it was written in, I think it was written in the late 60s or early 70s. So, and that's when, you know, the Nixon put out the, I think it was Nixon who put out the Water Act, you know, to try to clean up the water. And there was a lot of environmental things going on in the late 70s. And early 80s, because the water and air just got so polluted that we had these. And now the administration that is in office right now is rolling all of it back, all of it. You know, they're not protecting wetlands anymore. They are not protecting clean water anymore. They're allowing, they're not making laws to stop having PFAS. Farmers, the river keepers that I volunteer for in the summer have gone to Virginia to talk to farmers down there about not using this biomass on their fields. Because basically, it's just all filled with PFAS. And it's all going into the food that we eat, the meat and grain. And then the animals eat it, the chickens and the beef and the cows eat it. And it goes into them, and then it goes into us. My husband, he's a motorcyclist, and he wears a full jacket that is GORE-TEX. And he just got tested for PFAS. And it was at eight. It was a medium high level. And we're wondering if it's come from his equipment or if it's coming from the water. We've a couple years ago, we've changed to be in vegetarian. We eat fish once in a while, we very rarely eat meat or chicken. And we don't drink milk and we don't eat cheese. We only eat, I make cashew cheese and that kind of thing because of everything, the antibiotics that they're putting in the meat and the chickens and the hormones that I think they do try to give them hormones to beef them up. And whatever they're giving them, we're getting it. And I think it's not good. A lot of humans are becoming antibiotic resistant, so when we get sick, these antibiotics aren't working anymore.

Speaker 1:
[42:42] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[42:43] And I believe Sasquatch knows all this. I think that they do. I think that they know that our environment is in peril right now. And every single person should be concerned about this. This is a concern that needs to be dealt with quickly and really well, you know. We got solar panels on our house a couple of years ago. And it was great because we got a... We went through a solar co-op, so there was 30 other families that got solar. And we got a big discount on our solar system. And we got a home ecload. And the home equity loan was for, I think, 20 years. And it was only $100 a month, which was less. We were paying over $200 a month for our electric bill. Electric in Maryland is very high. So now we have paid it off. And we are paying $6 to be hooked up to the grid. And we get solar credits because we're overproducing. Now that my kids have moved out, we're overproducing. So we have $6 a month. And a lot of people that I've talked to recently said their electric bills for February were over $1,000 because of how cold it was. And if they had all electric houses, and I'm like, man, you need to look in the solar because even your bill for owning it, if you get a home act loan, it's going to be less than what you're going to be paying every month for your electric bill.

Speaker 1:
[44:14] Absolutely. So if you were to try to connect Silent Spring to today, really the connection is that the things that came about from Rachel Carson back in that time period are being rolled back by current administration right now.

Speaker 2:
[44:33] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[44:34] To put us back to how it was back before Rachel Carson.

Speaker 2:
[44:38] Yeah. During the 70s when we do not want to go back there. I mean, especially now we have wildfires, all these wildfires that are happening, we're breathing this all in. This is all detrimental to our health. You know, humans want to breathe in smoke and weren't meant to take in all these nasty chemicals. We just aren't going to survive it. My sister was 59. She had sarcoma cancer. She got diagnosed in February and she passed away in September. She was 59. She was younger than me. We had no clue why she got sick, but I'm sure it's environmental. You know, I'm sure of it, you know. And my dad was, he had heart issues and he wasn't old. He was 86. So, you know, but, and I think that we're going to see more and more incidences of cancer and we're going to see more and more incidences of asthma and all of these sorts of things that young kids get sick because of what's happening. And they're rolling it back. I just read that they were trying to get to drill some of the BLM land and the National Park land out west. And they want to drill it for copper and whatever else, you know, is out there. I just think this is not a good idea, you know, we need to think about the consequences of these things, you know, and I think that the data centers and the AI are also pushing this forward. You know, you have a lot of mega rich people who are doing whatever the heck they want, they're not going to, they think they can do whatever, and the people that we have in power are not pushing back on them. They're not.

Speaker 1:
[46:19] It's a really wild time. There's a lot of stuff that people need to be aware of, like you're bringing up, but I'm glad that you and others and hopefully more from listening to this are aware of what's going on, and Doris, also thank you for coming on the show and for sharing your experiences. I hope that you're able to keep having them, if that's what you desire.

Speaker 2:
[46:44] Yeah, I hope so. I think people come from all over the world to bike on the C&O Canal, because it goes from Washington, DC., and it goes all the way to Cumberland, Maryland. It's 186 miles, and then it goes on to Pittsburgh for the great Allegheny Passage. And so people come from all over the world to bike from Washington, DC to Pittsburgh, and it's just a beautiful ride. It's full of history, and the outdoors is just so lovely. So if anyone gets a chance, even to come for a day just to bike, bring a picnic luncheon and just enjoy it, it's just lovely. So I will be doing that. And I do think that other people have had some encounters along this area in Maryland, along the C&O Canal. I think there was another gentleman that you interviewed who was down closer to Washington, DC along the C&O Canal on a trail there that was like a Seneca area. And he said he had a encounter there. And he ended up having to spend the night because he had, I think he had blood sugar. I think he had diabetes or something.

Speaker 1:
[47:49] Yes, anthropologists.

Speaker 2:
[47:51] Yes. That was such a wonderful podcast. I mean, just hearing his story. So I do think that there are sasquatch all in this area, but I just think that people just don't report. They don't know what it is. They're just afraid to report what's happening. So, but I hope that other people get out and enjoy nature. And then what strange things happen to them, they can kind of rethink really what it is, you know, how things are going. Well, thank you so much, Jeremiah.

Speaker 1:
[48:20] Thank you so much for coming on the show and definitely keep us informed if anything else happens in your experiences when you're out in nature.

Speaker 2:
[48:28] I'll let you know if I see one. I'm ready. It would be nice to have one peek out from behind a tree. While I'm biking along on the C&O Canal. So I'm not afraid now.

Speaker 1:
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