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Speaker 1:
[00:00] On this episode of Football 301, we got a four-man weave post-Round 1 recap. Matt Harmon, Charles McDonald, Andrew Siciliano, and me. Recap Round 1, some superlatives, favorite picks, least favorite picks, bullet predictions for Day 2 of the Draft. Very fun show with the guys after we just did a marathon, a bar burner of Round 1. It was so much fun to talk about. Ty Simpson, really, Pick 13? We talked about that and more. Football 301, see you guys in a sec.

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Speaker 3:
[03:15] Guys, long time listener, first time caller.

Speaker 4:
[03:18] This is awesome. It's good to be here.

Speaker 3:
[03:21] Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:
[03:22] I know. I didn't know we had a contest out. Someone got to spend four hours with us to watch the draft, but it was great that Andrew won. It was like I got to actually know the person. Chuck, how are you doing, man?

Speaker 5:
[03:33] I'm fine. You know, it's been a long day, but a good day. We're just a little different covering the draft on the East Coast and the West Coast. We've had a little more time, so I'm good. But I'm a little sleepy, too.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] It's like when the draft was in Vegas, I drove home from the Superbowl, the Vegas and the draft. I drove home from the Superbowl. You get to drive home from the draft or somebody over.

Speaker 5:
[03:59] You know, it's like when you're at home, it's like, man, I could just get out right now. But when you're at another, when you're in another city, I'll stay out until four o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1:
[04:08] When the Superbowl was in Vegas, that was kind of annoying. It's a lot of nine o'clock shows. I have to go home. I have kids at home. I have to wake up to Matt. How are you doing, man? We got the receivers off the board. We got five of them. They said play the hits, but a lot of other picks, too.

Speaker 6:
[04:21] It was fun, man. It was a good night. And like I always say, I sometimes really enjoy the post draft analysis more than the pre draft analysis because we don't have to deal with the hypotheticals anymore. Like now we know where these guys are actually going to be playing and we can judge whether we like it or not.

Speaker 1:
[04:34] We start doing on it. Let's do it right now. We're going to get into the biggest surprise of night one of round one. Matt, I'll just start with you. What was your biggest surprise of round one?

Speaker 6:
[04:44] Yeah, I think Carnell Tate going to the Tennessee Titans was a surprise to me because I just didn't really hear a lot of buzz that that would be their pick, especially considering that Arvel Reiss was on the board. I thought, like, all right, makes a ton of sense. Get a guy that can play multiple roles, can rush the passer for Robert Salah's defense. That surprised me. They go with a different Buckeye. They go on the offensive side of the football. And I mean, I do kind of have mixed feelings about it because I don't think that Tate is your prototypical. We talked about this like fourth overall pick at wide receiver, but this is also not a prototypical draft where there was that guy available. I do think like he helps out the quarterback. There's no question about that. Like Cam Ward last year, you just found you had a great ad about this Nate about how he just spent an ungodly, long story short, spent an ungodly amount of time throwing a bunch of day three receivers. And you felt that. And I think Cam Ward's naturally going to be a guy who's always a risk taker, pushes the ball outside the numbers. And Tate, while again, he didn't have that prototypical alpha wide receiver role or production in college. He has a lot of alpha wide receiver one traits when it comes to working outside the numbers, eating up man coverage. So that was a surprise to me just because I didn't really expect that coming. You know, they were buzzed obviously to take Jeremiah Love who went ahead of their pick. They could have gone offensive line. They could have gone defensive line. But I do like, hey, our quarterback is our priority right now. And we had a just dearth of anybody who could win outside against man coverage and in the contested catch game. I mean, we're talking about like Wondell Robinson, Shamir, DK, these guys, Alec Ioman or another guy who's just not a contested catch wide receiver whatsoever, or really a man coverage beater. What would you say you would have done?

Speaker 1:
[06:31] You got through life, son.

Speaker 6:
[06:33] Other than that, now you got a guy who can who can really do both for you and grow with your young quarterback.

Speaker 1:
[06:39] It's once I saw the totality of the Titans night. Yeah, I liked it a little bit more.

Speaker 6:
[06:45] Feels a lot better after the walk pick.

Speaker 1:
[06:46] Yeah, it's kind of Corey Davis ish, where it's like, is this a guy that's a top 10 receiver? But it's also that's what draft class is. I know that this whole off season, they've been saying we want to prove it. We want to give Kim Ward weapons. We want to help him out. Jeremiah Love was probably that player that came to mind for a lot of people. But Cardinal Tate, this was kind of the consensus top receiver. Again, I've compared him high into Reggie Wayne. Like that's the high, high end. But even Reggie Wayne was a high end number two in a perfect world. You know, had a great career as that player. But Tate's just a steadiness in his hands, I think are going to be really great for Ward. So I know what your answer is for biggest surprises. I'll get to it. So I'm going to go to Andrew's first. What was your biggest surprise?

Speaker 3:
[07:24] So I would have taken his biggest surprise.

Speaker 4:
[07:27] However, I think we all like truth be told, would have taken his.

Speaker 3:
[07:35] We'll get to his in a second. So I went with Kenyon Siddique. They took Mason Taylor in the second round, they being the Jets last year, in what, like 52 or something like that. So you come back and take a tight end at 16. Is he best player available? Maybe. He is not your prototypical made in a lab, Colston Loveland or even Tyler Warren for that matter. The tight ends that went in the first round, he's more Harold Fanon than he is those guys. Harold Fanon turned in a fantastic season, by the way. And if you were to redraft, you might take Harold Fanon in the first round. Yeah. Right. If you do it again from last year. It's just one of those picks you're like, OK, that's fine. But like we talked about when that pick came up, they don't necessarily have to go offensive line here. I think any defensive player would have helped. They have so many aging pieces on that defense. They went out and they threw money at DeMario Davis and they threw money at who else was it?

Speaker 6:
[08:38] Minka Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 3:
[08:39] Minka Fitzpatrick. Like all these veteran pieces where when they do get to 2027, they're like, they're all gone. They have the three number ones next year. These are like they're they're placeholders seemingly for next year's team. You draft David Bailey, who is allegedly a win now. I mean, I think that's probably overplayed a little bit, but they they bypass Arville Reese. The city kick just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 6:
[09:04] Yeah, we kind of even though we like him as a football, yeah, most part, especially because they came back and took Omar Cooper at the right. That was kind of a and it's just like now you've got a lot of pass catchers for a team. It's really not never been able to maximize the guy they already have.

Speaker 1:
[09:18] The Colts just took receiver after receiver and pass catcher of pass catchers.

Speaker 6:
[09:22] I think you're setting yourself up to have disgruntled players. I mean, Adonai Mitchell is a guy that came from that Colts.

Speaker 1:
[09:27] Yeah, he was one of those guys.

Speaker 4:
[09:30] I forgot that he was there.

Speaker 1:
[09:31] Yeah, I know. And even had flashes last year with the Jets. I knew they had to improve pass catchers, but I thought there in 16 was a weird spot in this draft. The guards already kind of went. So maybe if they want to get away from that and maybe it was before they wanted to start, maybe the corner run or maybe look to address that position. So that's why we kind of reverse engineer, right? Oh, they want best player available. Then you look at it, you're like, huh? It's like the Raiders, they took Michael Mayer around too. The following year, they went Brock Bowers. Bowers is a super version of Sadiq, you know? And yeah, and even Sadiq, we kind of came to and you're on the Fantastic Forecast, Matt. It was like, oh, he's kind of actually, his usage might be more Duncan-Kate-ish. I think Sadiq is a more gritty blocker, more physical player, but it's more like he's going to be a specific player. I don't know, it just felt, yeah, I don't know, it just didn't feel like the landing spot.

Speaker 6:
[10:16] Frank Reich is the one at the controls here, and I hate to keep picking on Frank.

Speaker 4:
[10:21] You did pick on Frank a lot.

Speaker 6:
[10:22] He seems like a nice guy.

Speaker 1:
[10:24] I think there's more Frank Reich mentions on our show than probably all the other shows.

Speaker 6:
[10:27] But at the same time, what's he cooking up here based on the last time we saw him in the NFL, and even Charles, you made the point at Stanford.

Speaker 1:
[10:35] Last year, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[10:36] What do we see there? So just, I don't know. A lot of guys that I'd be a little concerned about if you're looking for maximum output on this Jets offense, unless Juno Smith's about to have a 4,500-yard season out of nowhere.

Speaker 3:
[10:46] By the way, about the points we got you up in real quick. I got a text from an assistant coach during the show and I looked at it and we had 50 things going. I forgot to mention it. You had the number one overall pick from Cal and the number two overall pick from Stanford.

Speaker 6:
[10:58] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[10:59] Yeah. How about that?

Speaker 6:
[11:00] Look at that.

Speaker 4:
[11:01] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[11:01] No SEC schools.

Speaker 4:
[11:02] No big 10 schools.

Speaker 1:
[11:04] Those do.

Speaker 5:
[11:05] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[11:05] Those schools.

Speaker 5:
[11:07] ACC.

Speaker 4:
[11:08] ACC.

Speaker 5:
[11:09] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[11:09] What do you want to call them? Who knows? They used to sing. They're PAC 10 schools.

Speaker 5:
[11:15] We're right down the street from Pasadena now.

Speaker 1:
[11:17] All right. I don't know if I want to use yours as the main course or if I want to just get mine out of the way.

Speaker 6:
[11:23] Let's save it for dessert.

Speaker 1:
[11:25] Okay. For dessert. Okay.

Speaker 5:
[11:26] Dessert over here.

Speaker 1:
[11:27] I'll be mine real quick. And I know I've already talked a little bit about the chief's two selections as a bit of a surprise. Not that they ended up going with, you know, maybe Delane, but they moved up for him, Mansford Delane, corner from LSU. They also drafted Peter Woods with their second first round pick. I thought maybe that would be, okay, now we can address receiver here. Because there was a couple on the board. I believe it would be Cooper and Boston at that point in time, Denzel Boston and Omar Cooper Jr. But they decided to go, no, we're going to get the kind of volatile defensive tackle. Interesting pairing with Chris Jones. I'm not against it. I think I'm just surprised. I don't think I pictured Peter Woods to the chiefs. I don't think I pictured, Delane, I pictured a little bit because they lost both corners, which we talked about in the show, losing both of them to the Rams. But I don't know, it was just one of those where I thought they would just give one of those spots to be an offensive splash. Like even offensive line was thrown out there because like Josh Simmons, like, uh, sketchiness, but they didn't, of course, but Simmons is good when he's out there. But yeah, I don't know, I think I just may be surprised. Not that I do not like it. I like the moves. I really do. Just surprised that both those guys end up with the chiefs.

Speaker 5:
[12:28] You know the things with Zach Branchman picked out for me.

Speaker 6:
[12:32] Oh, it's so hard. You know, just get arrested.

Speaker 1:
[12:36] Just hey, hey, we are having roughly all the charges.

Speaker 6:
[12:44] I agree. I'm just saying if we're playing the trends, I'm on your side about that.

Speaker 3:
[12:49] My friend, Greg Rosenthal, tweeted, I think is the only time a player has looked better after a place.

Speaker 1:
[12:53] Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what happened.

Speaker 6:
[12:55] I like that.

Speaker 3:
[12:56] And by the way, I'm going to say this as not a large human. When I saw Zachariah Branch at the Combine, I was like, wow, Zachariah twig.

Speaker 1:
[13:04] Yeah, that's really what he's not a big person. He's not.

Speaker 6:
[13:08] But I'm sure he blocked the sidewalk.

Speaker 1:
[13:09] Another thing, a team once in this draft, drafted a Georgia quarterback that did have some trouble. Yeah, Georgia players getting in trouble. That was the Rams. And tonight they selected another SEC quarterback.

Speaker 5:
[13:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:24] And Charles, this was your biggest surprise of the night.

Speaker 5:
[13:26] I think they might have been a little surprised too.

Speaker 4:
[13:29] I think he was too.

Speaker 3:
[13:30] I bet you he wasn't surprised.

Speaker 6:
[13:34] If he wasn't surprised, he could have done better work on his poker face.

Speaker 1:
[13:36] Oh my goodness. You know, like the hands in the pockets?

Speaker 5:
[13:40] No, he was more surprised than like, wow, we just did that kind of surprise, you know? Not that he didn't know what they were going to do, but I don't get this pick. It's so far away from what they have at quarterback and what's been proven to work at quarterback. You know, we were joking about it during the season when Arch Manning was starting to ascend. I was, give me the big athletic guy that's accurate. That's none of what Ty Simpson has, you know? It's an 0 for 3 there. Maybe he's accurate like when he's healthy, but ultimately, it's just not a rare skill set, which is what you're trying to find in the first round. You go to Mendoza at the first overall pick, he's got athleticism, he's got some real arm strength, he's got the accuracy, he's got the size. It's a presentable number one overall pick. This is so far away. Physically, Ty Simpson is close to Stetson Bennett than he is Matt McBaffert. No one thinks Stetson Bennett is the franchise quarterback, and I know that Ty Simpson is a better player, but you have to look at ceiling here. Another thing that I found interesting during the discourse is people say, oh, well, Ty was hurt last year. You're not going to get hurt in the NFL?

Speaker 1:
[14:48] Player in lies the wrong.

Speaker 5:
[14:49] Bigger, faster, stronger players are hard to play against. That's a concern. And the offensive line could use some work with the Rams. We thought they were going to pick a tackle here. So I don't get it from a skill set perspective. I don't really get it from an offensive fit perspective, considering how much Sean has loved to push the ball down fields to God Stafford. You really want to start doing that with Ty Simpson. I'm not sure that I see like a coherent vision between the coaching staff and the front office.

Speaker 3:
[15:16] Well, the difference is too, when they picked Stetson Bennett, they picked him to be a backup. He was going to be your valuable championship-winning backup that we could put in there and not have to go through the John Wolford thing again, the Bryson Hopkins thing again. This is our stable backup that we could rely on. You draft Ty Simpson at 13 as the guy that you're eventually going to toss the keys to. Much, much different scenario.

Speaker 1:
[15:40] Yes. And you can make the argument that, okay, now he gets to sit behind Stafford because his lack of starts is an issue, Ty Simpson's. But like Chuck is saying, this is what we talked about on the show and what I talked about throughout the process. You can find the skill set of Simpson fairly on a regular rate in the draft. Yeah. Then when I say that, I mean, the tier of this type of player, the high end bridge starter, the spot starter, the high end backup types. Mack Jones is a guy that always comes to mind. Jacoby Berset is maybe a name that comes to mind. Those guys, again, don't have those high end tools that lift the ceiling of your team. Yes, when you have a good ecosystem, you can get this work and this is the Shanahan system has had a lot of success with this. The Jimmy G's of the world and you could say, although it could be Brock Purdy, who is Mr. Irrelevant by mind you, you don't take that skill set. Jimmy G, round two, a guy that Simpson can maybe become his Kirk Cousins because of his size and everything. Round four, not 13 because even if you just look at the list, and I did this on the live show of the top performing players, we can do top 10 quarterback hierarchy, whatever. Just even stat-wise, it's a bunch of big dudes, maybe not tall but thick, a bunch of rocket arms and a bunch of good athletes, some guys, all of them. The last thing is that the little scheme fit thing, that is such a dumb argument to me because that's more about athleticism and more about balance and anything of footwork that you can teach as opposed to just like, oh yeah, I can see it. Yeah, it's easily translatable, but it's more about skills and traits that you can translate to that. Even that argument is hogwash to me.

Speaker 5:
[17:14] What do you do here then?

Speaker 1:
[17:15] Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4:
[17:16] That's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[17:17] He's got a good arm, but it's not, again, and he's a good enough athlete because he's a pretty good athlete, he really is. But at 210 max, I'm not running him on designed runs more than once a game and I got a high leverage third down or red zone. I'm not building the offensive.

Speaker 3:
[17:29] Well, I'm a staffer who's not running design runs either.

Speaker 4:
[17:31] Right.

Speaker 1:
[17:31] But again, but now we're getting a lesser version of a pocket quarterback with probably a lesser roster coming up.

Speaker 6:
[17:37] And eventually, yeah, those bills will come due. I think the other part of this, too, like I think from a system fit perspective, the argument probably comes from like when Simpson was on last year, he was really ripping throws over the middle of the field. I say this is somebody who when charting Jeremy Bernardo, I was like, I can watch this guy run dig routes all day long, just like dig route, dig route, dig route. And Ty Simpson was hitting those. He's not the only quarterback in the world that can do that. Like you can find that. And I think if I'm going to read her, right, you say so.

Speaker 4:
[18:04] You're ripping those digs, you're ripping those digs.

Speaker 6:
[18:07] God help of what the results were. I mean, now, if I'm to psychoanalyze Sean McVeigh and just the weirdness of the press conference, because it was weird. If you guys have seen it, if you've seen the clips, it's got to be one of the least enthusiastic. Like we just drafted quarterback in the first round, but it's not the whole strange presser.

Speaker 1:
[18:25] That was just thinking that, yes.

Speaker 6:
[18:27] So if I'm to psychoanalyze that, I think that we think about these play callers and as if they want the extension of themselves on the field, like just to get out there and be the joystick and like point, shoot where I point essentially. But I think a lot of these guys really reach their true nirvana when they find somebody who makes the playbook come alive and can create when they don't have to. Like Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams this last year. Even Ben Johnson who is the most like details, stickler, like my playbook type of stuff. He really even would come alive when Caleb would make these improvisational moments like it was a great play call by me, right? And it's like I think these guys want whether they admit it or not, actually do want like someone to bring more life to their playbook. I just don't think like Matthew Stafford has done that. Matthew Stafford did that already for this team after replacing Jared Goff. And it kind of feels like they're going back to their previous version here.

Speaker 1:
[19:26] And I think just dynamic plays and explosive plays are the name of the game. A lot of the explosive plays, they get that and that McVeigh offense. And I don't think it's McVeigh's pick, but that's in structure. It's great, you know, puka-nacula. It's great design. What do you do when you don't have that? And that's why you need the guys that can carry more weight. Yeah, it's just I, and of course we had Charles Robinson who came on and reported also, hey, like that Les Snead made a little promise like to these family that, hey, we like them in the first round. I was like, did you just write a check? Then also he went, oh, I have to cash this now? Like I, I, this buck couldn't cash. And he's like, I got to take him, I guess I made this. It's the Snead Alabama thing is very real. He has, he has a real keenness to players from the state of Alabama that played those schools, not just Auburn, but Alabama. He likes the Scrappy. They had Wolford for a while. They've had Stetson Bennett for a while. I don't know, man. It's very, very rich to me. It's something I thought they could have done.

Speaker 3:
[20:22] He likes SCC guys.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] He loves it. Loves those guys. Yes, I know. There is something to that, but.

Speaker 5:
[20:26] Cause I think the question I have is, you know, people, I've heard people who are in favor of this pick say, oh, well, you know, we tend to treat quarterbacks when we talk about them in drafts, they're kind of all the same. You know, like, if we get this first round rookie, his-

Speaker 1:
[20:41] No, he's a first rounder.

Speaker 5:
[20:43] He's a first round pick. He's a first round quarterback. So we got to give him an O-line receiver. No, sometimes you take a bad player in the first round and it doesn't work out. But what I think is interesting is like when people say, oh, well, he's going to sit behind Stafford and we're going to mold him. Mold what into what is the question? Because right now, the skill set of someone who couldn't beat out Jalen Milrow could not beat him out. Nick Saban spoke about this on College Game Day. He chose Jalen Milrow over Ty Simpson multiple times, even as Jalen Milrow was struggling. So it's not like this is some guy who had walked into Alabama and had the world handed to him. He had to fight and earn it and fail multiple times to finally get a chance and it went, okay.

Speaker 6:
[21:22] Yeah. And the sitting thing is tough too, man, because so we're going to get to the end of 2026. This guy's still going to have just 15 starts on his record. And like, okay, what if Stafford sticks around after 2026?

Speaker 5:
[21:33] Right.

Speaker 6:
[21:34] In 2027, we still got the 15 starts on the record. Like, that's it. It's just like a very limited resume to work off here.

Speaker 3:
[21:40] We're going to have a guy that in essence, if he doesn't play this year at all, would have played like one year in the last four.

Speaker 5:
[21:46] Yeah, since high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:48] I know. And not very now. It doesn't have a frame that you can add more weight to. So it's even like that. I have limitations. And if your coach is kid, you sometimes want to take the wild horse or whatever and go, OK, we can mold this. Like you mentioned to like, what are you molding? All right. Well, he's already tapped out. He's a coach's kid that's been designed in this understanding. So even the things that are appealing, it's already kind of tapped out and everything. But yeah, it's a yeah, I'm very interested to see how this unfolds. And it's a big bet that they made. So we are going to take our first break and we'll come back with a few more superlatives from round one. See you guys in a sec. All right, we are back in a few more thoughts from round one. We're going to get to our favorite fit of team and player selection, however you want to put it. Matt, I'll start with you again.

Speaker 6:
[22:38] Yeah, I'm going to tap into some Panthers home.

Speaker 1:
[22:40] There you go.

Speaker 6:
[22:41] Monroe Freeling, if you didn't have a lot of Panthers, man, I loved this pick for them. Look, Ikea Quanu has flashed the ability to be a good starting left tackle, but still never was a complete player in any sense of the word, and now he's coming off of this major injury. Freeling obviously is still a little bit of a project in some way too. He's still a developing player. You talked about this Charles when he got picked. If you had told me this a year ago, I would have never believed it. At the same time though, he really improved in the back half of the year. Obviously, all the athletic tools are there. This is a team that I think is still really incentivized to surround Bryce Young with no excuses essentially here. If I'm them, I'm still evaluating whether this guy is my long-term quarterback or not. Having a guy that can come in here and potentially be a really high-end left tackle, I think makes all the sense for them in the world. When Dave Canales at the league meeting talked about three positions, which was kind of crazy, he just said, there's like three positions we're looking at in the first round, tight end, wide receiver, safety. I'm like, safety, I get. Again, to come back to the Jets point, they've already got too many guys that they're not maximizing on the roster as it is. They definitely do need some more threats there, but to spend three first-round picks at wide receiver or pass catcher in a row.

Speaker 3:
[23:58] There's no rule against it.

Speaker 6:
[23:59] There's no rule against it.

Speaker 1:
[24:00] But Matt Millen might have taken it right there.

Speaker 6:
[24:02] Right. It's like, well, look at the hit rate so far. It's like Ted O'Rourke and MacMillan. Looks really good. Does they really get? He's not even as good as Jalen Coker, who was the under-drafted free agent in that very same class. So I kind of like-

Speaker 3:
[24:12] And they traded up to get him.

Speaker 6:
[24:13] Yeah. You don't have to remind me. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was not a fan of the pick at the time. So here, just seeing like them prioritize the trenches, which is something that they did when Canales got hired there. I think doubling down on that is a smart move for them. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:28] I liked a lot of the offensive tackle pairings in the second half. Spoilers for mine as well. But I freeload my OT one. Love them. If you get my 19, the guy that I think is the top 10 talent. I like your point about Icky who is injured right now. Serious injury. They have some other guys that can play as well. I tackle right now. But I always thought Icky could be a dynamic guard. You can pump inside too. And you might just kill two birds with one stone. I mean, potentially if all things go right. All right, Chuck, what's your favorite team fit, player team fit in the first round?

Speaker 5:
[24:58] Yeah, I got to go Kayla Banks. I mean, because I was shoulder bad. I was like, oh, I know. Look, I was scared because I was like, man, if this guy doesn't.

Speaker 1:
[25:07] We had it in a mock.

Speaker 5:
[25:08] I have no chance of like not looking like a moron, you know, because you beat this drum pretty hard. Yeah. You know what you ascribe to the Tyler Creator tweet and says, I could just log out.

Speaker 6:
[25:21] You said that you stood on the table from on the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast, which trillions of people listen to. Really, trillions, trillions, trillions, big numbers.

Speaker 5:
[25:31] But I mean, this is a team that I don't like. This might sound crazy just because of how well the Vikings defense has done over the past few years, but I can make an argument. He is like the most talented player on that defense now, just in terms of like raw physical talent and upside for the future, because I think what's so impressed about what Brian Flores has done is, I don't think they have any good players on defense. Like guys, that you could pull from another scheme and just drop them in. What Brian Flores does and how meticulous the game plan is where every single person is, it's incredible, but that's hard to do every week. So it helps to have a guy that at least you can squint and say, man, if we can just teach him how to finish, maybe rush past a little better. Talking about a top 10 defensive tackle, which is something you don't have to meticulously game plan for where every single play he's in the right gap. I think if they can figure that part out, which I bet Brian Flores will be able to at least make progress on it, I think it's a big boom for them potentially.

Speaker 1:
[26:29] It's the same discussion of where we were just saying with Ty Simpson going, well, I want a quarterback that can do things outside the scheme. You're talking about like Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson. That's Caleb Banks for four is going like, yeah, I can get these guys slanting and doing this crazy stuff and we get these TFLs and all that. But sometimes you need a guy that you can just win. It's nice to day. You can just sometimes, I don't have to scheme this up, I can just run them straight. So we thought D Tackle is more alive for the Vikings, I think than some other people and the Banks is a guy. I had him, I think at 28, 29, you had him even higher, super talented player. That's what they even are talking about. He's a top 10 guy when he's healthy. So we'll see how this foot is and everything. Andrew, what about you? Favorite player, team fit?

Speaker 3:
[27:07] I'm going to go with Caleb Downs and it's more favorite player. It's more safest pick than it is team fit necessarily. Jerry Jones said afterwards that there were two guys that he would have traded up for. He refused to name the second, but he said one of them obviously was Caleb Downs. It was a small move, modest price. You go from 12 to 11. He's the safest guy in this draft. If Nick Saban and Ryan Day are both telling you, he could have played in the NFL as a freshman and sophomore in the SEC and in the Big Ten. He could play in the NFL at whatever age he is now, 21. He's a leader. He's sharp. He's got a football family. He's going to make your run defense better as well. It is a safe pick for a team that badly needs any defensive contributor it can get. He has star power as well, which is significant there in Dallas. He was one of the few total star names in this draft. Even though Arville Reese went higher and Sonny Stiles went higher and and Cardinal Tate went higher. This was the keep it in the fairway guy. And they kept it in the fairway. It's a beautiful shot off the tee. And I don't think he can go wrong.

Speaker 5:
[28:23] One of the most striking Caleb Downs moments that I remember, and this is a Georgia fan bias. But after Alabama beat Georgia in Nick Saban's final year in the SEC title game to go to the playoff where they lost to Michigan. After the game, Kirby Smart makes a beeline to Caleb Downs because he knew obviously he and Nick are close. So he knew Nick was about to retire. So he makes a beeline to Caleb Downs. He's like, hey, you and me, we're in this together. Kirby was looking at it like, man, I might have Caleb Downs and Malakoff Starks in the same weekend as for a season. And then Ohio State dropped the bag right at the last second. And but you get to see, like even in the moment where Kirby had his playoff dreams dashed, he's like, where is Caleb Downs? I need to find him. And I think that speaks to his talent level.

Speaker 1:
[29:08] He's got to interview him. But I mean, just watch him. He's so smart. He solidifies them. And like they need, if they couldn't get a linebacker, which I think Styles is maybe the other guy they're interested in, Sonny Styles, someone along that spine of the defense. And I think he's a great fit for this defense coordinator, too. How they rotate the safeties down. He gets to stay between the hashes or stay between the numbers. I just like this a lot because even like you can argue how, oh, what are his high end traits or anything? It's like, I don't care. This guy's going to make everyone else around him better. It's like drafting a really high drafted center for your own line. It's like, yeah, OK, this isn't sexy, but he's going to just really just make everyone else better and just calm everyone down. And I think with this defense coordinator, what this defense is going to do, that's just going to help them outside.

Speaker 3:
[29:47] Do you think he would have fallen if he worked out of the combine?

Speaker 1:
[29:51] I think no, I think this is kind of where his range was, no matter what he didn't put up.

Speaker 3:
[29:54] He wasn't you look, he's not Kyle Hamilton, right? Kevin's a fancy call. Kyle Hamilton wants Wemby playing nickel. He's not even here. He's not doing James. No, if he and he chose not to.

Speaker 1:
[30:05] But if you go to the combine and it was kind of like, you know, I mean, Hamilton ran a four six and change, but he was also six. Like you said, gigantic and everything.

Speaker 3:
[30:15] Remember the preseason when there was that maybe the first preseason or was it a joint practice where there was a coverage bust and somebody was running behind Kyle Hamilton for a touchdown? And oh, yeah. And Ravens winner went nuts.

Speaker 1:
[30:27] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[30:28] About.

Speaker 1:
[30:28] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[30:29] Why on earth did we draft this guy?

Speaker 6:
[30:30] I was like weak to get the Dolphins game. Yeah, we're getting fried at the second half.

Speaker 1:
[30:36] And now Mike McDonald is the Super Bowl champion defensive play caller and everything with the Seahawks. And after that game, I was like, oh, boy, can I even guard him on this year? But I even said this on the show is that when going through the history of first round safety is like Minka Fitzpatrick is one he's a little bigger than Downs, but I think as far as athleticism and everything and the intelligence, like that's the guy I compare and he went pick 11 as well. So it's like, I don't know, this felt like his range also former Saban disciple on top of that. Another guy that started as a true freshman for Nick Saban. So there's some parallels, I think, to that. All right, as a mind, my favorite fit, you know, it's going to be offense alignment. I actually thought I had Caleb Lomu here, but I have Max Yiannichor to the Steelers.

Speaker 2:
[31:14] You've got to have Caleb Lomu.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] I both I can't see right now. It's on my head. It's late. Yeah. So I got Max Yiannichor to the Steelers. I got Caleb Lomu to the Patriots. Again, even I'll throw in Blake Miller here to the Lions as well. I think these guys, it's I love the landing spots for all of them. I like what the teams are doing. The Patriots makes sense with AJ Brown pending trade. That'll happen June 1st. It seems like it's pretty locked in stone now. Thank God I finally used a source and reported something that actually came out. All right, good. Can talk to you guys again. But also I think Yiannichor, I was curious, know that Jordan Tyson getting sniped by the Eagles just before, I thought this was a great pivot. They should just go, no, this was our original plan. I was going to say, Jordan Tyson. I said Jordan Tyson, Mikhail Lemon. I've heard of both ways. A receiver, Mikhail Lemon, and that's why they moved up. The Eagles did with the Cowboys. But man, I just, I thought this was great. They have a young, talented offensive line. They have three guys I really like. They're all under 25. And now whatever happens with Jones, they either have Fondue out here, they have Yiannichor, they have talent. They have a lot of talent there. So like that, I like that for Lomu and the Patriots, who I feel like, other than what's going on with variable, I do think the Patriots have had a really nice off season. Yeah, other than the head coach doing his thing. I really do think that the Patriots have had, I really like the free agency class, a bunch of kind of, you're talking about keeping it in the fairway. I think that's what the, they just have nothing but fairway and regulation over and over and over. I really do think that.

Speaker 6:
[32:46] I get why the Steelers would want Mackay Lemon, but I think this is a way better pick for them. I'm a big fan of Mackay Lemon's game, but you just traded assets and signed DK Metcalfe to an extension. You just not really traded assets, but you pick swap to get Michael Pittman, but you gave him an extension. You bring in another receiver. Again, it's one of those crowded rooms. What are the roles? I think that just leads to disgruntledness and a lack of true identity and a guiding force as an offense. But what is a guiding force? Potentially, it's an offensive view, a kick-ass offensive line. And they've added a lot of resources to that unit here. And Broderick Jones definitely been up and down and is now dealing with an injury. So getting an Ihanichwer in here, I think, is huge. And for the Patriots too, like, yeah, you might just stick low mood guard and kick everybody down a spot. Like, I think that makes a ton of sense too.

Speaker 5:
[33:36] If you're going to do the Aaron Rodgers thing again, you needed to draft him off of the line.

Speaker 6:
[33:41] Not another rookie receiver. He can't move.

Speaker 5:
[33:43] He can't move. You got to draft him off.

Speaker 6:
[33:46] It is also insane that it's what, April? I mean, God knows what.

Speaker 4:
[33:49] I can't believe they let them still get drafted around like this.

Speaker 6:
[33:52] Now it's April 24th. And we still don't know the...

Speaker 1:
[33:54] Apparently he came out, he was upset about the owner or the president was talking so much that he was assured that, oh my God, it's just like, you're 41 years old, bro.

Speaker 3:
[34:03] Just stop.

Speaker 1:
[34:03] Just sign. And then we will be good. It will be good. You'll be able to talk.

Speaker 3:
[34:07] He could have said yes by now.

Speaker 1:
[34:08] Yeah, easily. Easily, free agency started a month ago and they were on the same team. You could have done it before that. I know the rules, Aaron.

Speaker 5:
[34:14] Aaron, you watched LeBron James in his play house. That's what you need to do. If you want that money, let's go.

Speaker 4:
[34:21] Be 41 with LeBron.

Speaker 3:
[34:22] There was also some awkwardness, too, if you're a henna chore.

Speaker 4:
[34:25] Like they were on the phone with another girl. Yeah, but they didn't know.

Speaker 1:
[34:30] He just came to football five years ago. They're just like, yeah, sure. Yeah, they had two first rounders. Yeah, exactly. No, I and whoever the quarterback is of the future, 27 and beyond, it could be a really sick offensive line. Like you have Metcalf and whatever you want to say with Pittman and everything, but you have, that's a really nice base to drop in a young off, a young quarterback, or if they want to move for a guy.

Speaker 6:
[34:51] There's a few teams that did that, honestly. Like, I mean, I was skeptical of what the Jets did. And obviously the Browns taking Casey Concepcion. Sorry, Andrew, but, you know, not my favorite landing spot in the entire world.

Speaker 4:
[35:03] No, but he's also your number two wide receiver. So stay true to your board.

Speaker 6:
[35:07] Listen, I'm staying true to my board. I'm just saying, when we're drafting for fantasy, I'm going to be bringing him down the board a little bit. But my point is saying that is like, whoever Cleveland's next quarterback is, is going to benefit from Casey. Whoever the Jets next quarterback is, is going to benefit from those guys in there. And same thing with Pittsburgh too. Like, now you're setting up a nice ecosystem and you eventually do move to the next phase.

Speaker 3:
[35:28] Or maybe they could just make it like, you know, when Dave Grohl had the broken leg and they just put him in the throne back there and he played guitar. Remember that? The Pooh Fighters, anybody?

Speaker 1:
[35:37] Yes. I'm picking up where you're dropping.

Speaker 3:
[35:39] Just put Roger's in a chair back there.

Speaker 1:
[35:42] That's it.

Speaker 6:
[35:42] I mean, he basically puts himself in the chair. He's not moving in the chair.

Speaker 3:
[35:44] I mean, he does.

Speaker 1:
[35:45] And once it's two minutes around, then all of a sudden you see him move a little bit. But yeah, I know, it's frustrating. Speaking of frustrating, let's get to our least favorite picks of round one. Chuck, I'll start with you.

Speaker 5:
[35:54] Malkai Lawrence of Dallas, I just, especially with Keljer Falk still on the board. That's what made it, like, I understand, like kind of getting enamored with the size speed. But man, I thought Falk was just a bit of a better player. And the else is this, when you look at who, like the kind of players that Dallas already has on edge, I just felt like a bigger body there might have been served better for just for what they have, especially after you trade away Odegi Zuwa to the San Francisco 49ers. You're pretty thin, like in terms of bigger bodies up front. So, you know, Malcolm Lawrence, he's got a lot of work to do, I think in terms of being a consistent pass rusher and just a player that consistently affects the game. Because how I would describe him is like, you know, he's a 140 hitter in baseball, but he's hitting home runs, you know? But a lot of the times when he's not making an impact, he's nowhere near making a play. So I think that his success this year probably relies on how good Quinn and Williams can be, which is true of a lot of Dallas players, which is a tough spot to be in ultimately still.

Speaker 1:
[36:54] He's lucky he's going to the Cowboys, who also should have a good offense. So the other team has to pass the ball. If you went to a team that's not with a lot of leads, I think he does have some run defense stuff that I, that's why I have some more questions. That's why I was more comfortable on day two. I thought he's more of a supreme DPR type. Even then, he's a little stiff. I thought if they want to say that, oh, he's the Nolan Smith of this defense, I don't trust Lawrence to drop in coverage. There's just a lot where I just, again, I'd be more comfortable with him a little bit later. I know this was the range of the draft class this year or the talent and everything, but I agree with this one where I was just like, oh, especially with Falk there, Falk made more sense to me, especially with the Nate.

Speaker 5:
[37:34] The Nolan Smith is composition because no one ran a four or three, you know? That was different even from what this is, that was a different jump.

Speaker 1:
[37:43] And Georgia production and was younger. Lawrence is a fifth year guy, doesn't have a lot of run production. I don't know, just a very, he's a supreme role player as opposed to a guy that would be more comfortable in the top 25. So Matt, biggest or least favorite team player fit of round one.

Speaker 6:
[38:01] Yeah, mine was a key Mezador to the Chargers. A lot of different things at play here. I don't know that there's necessarily like one pick, like, oh, I would have rather them taking this guy or that guy. At that point, some of the interior offensive linemen weren't on the board anymore. But my worry with Mezador is just that there's a lot of red flags in this profile. He's 25 years old. And as we said on the show, it's not about how long he's gonna play or how long his career is gonna be, but it was the film last year when he finally had a massive season was that overinflated because he's older and more physically stronger and developed than the guys that he's going against. I'm sure that you can line up rep by rep and be like, oh no, this is actually another guy who's close to his age. But still, when you start like nitpicking like that, that makes it complicated for a first round profile. Plus he's coming off of an injury. Plus it's not as if he's like an overwhelming physical specimen anyways, you know, sub two sixty six three. I do just wonder if there's not a clear role for him in this defense anyways, because this is a deep, this is a team that plays with some of those bigger bodies on the edge, Khalil Mack, Tui is a bigger body as well. And like that's allowed them to not have to dedicate extra bodies in the box to stop the run. I don't think Macedora is doing that for you at all. Like he's almost not purely, but almost mostly a pass rusher. So from a fit perspective, I thought it was a little weird and just again, overall profile wise, there are some red flags here that I think this will be pitched as like a, oh, this is a safe pick for the Chargers to make. And it's not really if you actually look at the full profile.

Speaker 1:
[39:31] Yeah, you agree with that Charles?

Speaker 5:
[39:33] Yeah, this is a really risky pick. And also I would say, or what I would throw out there as a question, is there a chance the Chargers defense attack room is like the worst in the league this year? They have no talent up there.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] They have Tart and they have, they got Thomson too. They got him, but Thomson's always, there's a reason Thomson's always on a new team.

Speaker 5:
[39:50] Hey, TR. Tart is my guy.

Speaker 4:
[39:53] A little finale, you know? That's my buddy, you know?

Speaker 1:
[39:58] That's my goon, man.

Speaker 2:
[40:00] He's my goon.

Speaker 5:
[40:03] I feel like Mezodur is walking into a situation where he's kind of gotta be an anchor against the run right away.

Speaker 1:
[40:11] And that was a weakness for them last year.

Speaker 5:
[40:12] Right, right. I just don't know if that's possible. Like, you're really light on the edge now with Thule.

Speaker 6:
[40:18] I always just think about that one. That Washington game.

Speaker 1:
[40:20] I was gonna bring it up too.

Speaker 6:
[40:21] JCM's like only big game last year when he just raked it up.

Speaker 1:
[40:24] Every edge. I did a highlight of it. I think I did even a video of it. It was just like every edge got pinned and pinned and pinned.

Speaker 6:
[40:31] And that's why I was sick. And you knew exactly what I was talking about.

Speaker 1:
[40:34] Mezodur is a heat seeking missile for the ball. And that's good and bad. Like because he's blind, doesn't really fit the hold up against the run at the point of attack. Do like the past Russian chops, but I thought they could use more of a run plugger, especially how they play defense. Yeah, I, that one was interesting to me. I was, I didn't like that too much, especially with Falk on the board. Andrew, your biggest.

Speaker 3:
[40:57] Is Kaden Proctor actually, and those, the two picks back to back, 12 and 13, Proctor to the Dolphins and Simpson to the Rams at 13. Those are the two who were collectively when we're on the air, we both went, OK, wow. Yeah, I am always leery of a player for whom a coach does not stand on the table. DeBoer went on the radio in Cleveland a couple of weeks ago. This didn't get a lot of pub, but it was a big deal in Cleveland talking about Ty Simpson. And he certainly said nice things. But the the consensus after listening to the interview was he didn't exactly stand on the table for the guy. And Nick Saban this morning on TV didn't exactly stand on the table for Caden Proctor. When he was mocked, a lot of people mocked him to the Browns. There are a lot of things that obviously Andrew Burr might like in the guy fits a lot of boxes that he likes to check. I kind of got a pit in my stomach. Not that he may not look. He may be a very good player, but I feel there is a boom or bust quotient or possibility to this guy. And to go boom or bust at 12 as your first pick with the new administration there. Yeah, it takes some stones. He could turn out great. Obviously, you have a quarterback that you paid now. You want to protect said quarterback. The quarterback is going to move around a little bit. This guy, even though we caught a touchdown last year, he's not exactly your move tackle.

Speaker 1:
[42:18] No.

Speaker 3:
[42:19] So I don't know. As a Browns fan, I'm glad they didn't take him. Right. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[42:27] Yeah. Just his red flags. Wait. You can be too big. You can actually be too big in the NFL.

Speaker 5:
[42:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] And man, I actually even just said, Oh, you protect the quarterback. And I realize we close runs a lot.

Speaker 5:
[42:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:42] That's not that's not usually great for a big tackle that lets a lot of speed around. And also he's playing on the right side now, which is in the end of the world. I do like Patrick Polat on the left side, but I don't know. It's just especially with the availability, like they really got their pick of the litter there. Like they started the new run of offensive linemen, more or less, you know. But it's that's that was the guy that was who you determined. It was like this is no as opposed to maybe waiting for their second first round pick and then taking Lomu, you know, who have been like Miller or Blake Miller.

Speaker 3:
[43:15] I don't think anybody would know.

Speaker 1:
[43:16] No, that's yeah. It's just a guy that has so many red flags. The fact that Nick Saban said really there are certain words that scouts and coaches use that at first you're like, OK, but really they're more damning than they really come across. Not a self starter is crushing, crushing an NFL terms. He might as well just said, like, this guy should be in jail. Like you like I could not.

Speaker 3:
[43:40] He wasn't suggesting he's a criminal, to be clear.

Speaker 1:
[43:43] No, no, but he's not a self starter. I was like, OK, and he has weight issues.

Speaker 5:
[43:47] No, that's that's the equivalent of a football coach cursing you out.

Speaker 1:
[43:53] Yeah, and you say that and you still scouts right down. And again, now you're going to a Dolphins team that is truly rebuilding. Yeah, it's going to be a total tear down. Total tear down. Look how many picks they have. And those guys are going to be playing a lot of, I was about to say minutes, but a lot of plays like they're going to be playing a lot. And now they got it suffers from not being a self starter. It's going to deal with Miami Heat, not the basketball team, just the Heat of Miami. Like, ah, this is, whoo, whoo, whoo. Just a lot of red flags going on right now. This was mine too, by the way. We doubled down on this one. So yeah, I was ready to ran on this one. Do you have any silver linings here?

Speaker 6:
[44:28] Silver linings, I don't know. But if it all comes together, I suppose it could be a pretty cool looking road to go.

Speaker 4:
[44:33] If it all comes together. If it all comes together, every draft we can nest to.

Speaker 6:
[44:37] If it all comes together, it could be pretty cool. I mean, I heard Brewer obviously come off a great year. You mentioned Paul was awesome. Like again, if Proctor works out and they've got Devon Aitchin back there, Malik Willis doing some cool stuff. But at the same time, I'm also looking at like, this could just be a really weird, bizarro offense, more whale than dolphin.

Speaker 2:
[44:54] Yeah, it could be that.

Speaker 5:
[44:56] But I think that at least like Caden is a good cultural fit for the city of Miami. Because if you remember, Caden transferred from Alabama back to Iowa for about five minutes, for about five minutes, five months, be precise, he went back for spring ball, but he did take that NIL money. And when he left, he went back to Alabama with that NIL money in his pocket. Iowa fans. Yes, he was getting Venmo requests from Iowa fans. Tell him, give us that damn money back. He said no. So I'm going to root for him just for that. It's probably a red flag with a green flag over here.

Speaker 6:
[45:28] Why does that make him a good fit for the city of Miami?

Speaker 5:
[45:30] Because it's the city full of scammers. I'm from Atlanta, OK? That's what makes it beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[45:41] And topping off, the OC is Bobby Slug, who what was the one thing that happened in Houston? His last only time calling plays was the old line deteriorated.

Speaker 6:
[45:49] Felt apart, and they couldn't. And this was the crazy thing, too. And obviously Slug was on the staff at the time. But like Miami leaned into some real like gap concepts, like getting these guys on the move and stuff like that, which has never happened when he was in charge in Houston. They just basically could never get off the Shanahan. Like that was it. So now are they going to keep some of those tenants play when he was the past game coordinator on the staff last year? Or is it going to look a lot of like in Houston, where it's a lot of zone?

Speaker 1:
[46:19] And I don't think Proctor fits in the old line coach is a college guy slash 49ers experience under Shanahan.

Speaker 6:
[46:25] So you always hit the college guys.

Speaker 5:
[46:29] We're probably better if he stayed in Iowa.

Speaker 1:
[46:32] Oh, yeah, in a fair way. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I know it's well, that's actually the old line coach. That was the guy that had the one, the worst coach lines last year under Seahawks. Yeah. Anyways, we're going to take our last break and then we'll come back with a few more draft thoughts, superlatives, all that good stuff. See you guys in a second. All right, we are back. We're going to round it up with a few thoughts for day two. Matt, who's the most intriguing player on the board for day two, I should say.

Speaker 6:
[47:06] I'm just going to play the hits the rest of this show. Denzel Boston is the most intriguing player. I thought there was a chance that he could go in the second round and not the first. I thought there were six wide receivers in the first two tiers in this class. There's just a chance that one of those guys was going to slip, whether it was, I think, the three most likely candidates were probably Casey Cooper or Denzel Boston. It ends up being Denzel Boston. I think that makes the most sense. I would have taken him in the first round. I thought he was a worthy first-round player, but some people don't like those bigger body, what they see as non-separation X receivers. I think that Boston gets open. I don't think he is in the same class as a Drake London or a Tetero McMillan. These other guys be like, oh, he can't separate. I'm like, those guys could get open. I think Boston can too. Again, he's not that level of prospect, but he is in that family of wide receivers to me. There's two teams at the top of the second round, now that they've traded back in Buffalo and San Francisco, not in that order. I think either one of them would be great fits for him. I don't think he will last long into day two. There's a lot of good parts of his game.

Speaker 1:
[48:10] Yeah, the two players that I came to compare Boston, I did like him, was as the high comparison. It was Corwin Sutton, who went round two, and Moussa Mohammed, who went round two. This is the player profile and I get it, he's not a burner.

Speaker 6:
[48:24] Other people compared to Michael Pittman, another second round.

Speaker 1:
[48:27] Another second round, guys. I think these are the same family. They are, they're all the same kind of similar archetypes. It didn't totally shock me and we did so many mocks. After every mock, there was always one receiver not in there. We've had Tyson not in there, Cooper not in there, and Mikhail Lemon. Just every time. That's also what started leading to me. I was like, man, I think a lot of offensive linemen are going to go. We started doing them, you start seeing the team needs. I wasn't shocked, like you said, that one maybe didn't end up. I agree with Boston is a good one to look at for day two early. Chuck, what about you?

Speaker 5:
[48:57] Kaden McDonald, nose tackle, Ohio State. I thought he was going to go around one just because he had a rare profile for a nose tackle prospect. He hit 65 tackles last year, nine TFLs, three sacks, a couple of forced fumbles. That's really unusual when you're just talking about this rare counter production. He had almost as many solo tackles as Arville Reese did last year, 35 to 31, which is crazy for a 331-pound player. Two-gap. Right. So I think this is a guy who's got crazy, crazy upside and the fact that he didn't go around one, man, this could be a real seal for someone.

Speaker 1:
[49:34] I was surprised. I actually was kind of like, I won't say offended, but when people are like, it's a down defensive tackle class, I'm like, what? There's two in the round one. I thought McDonald was the one that was going to go around one. And actually, I talked to a couple of people of teams and McDonald was their defensive tackle one. So I kind of was surprised to be a three, not totally shocked, but I agree. I think he's a good player too. I'm excited to see where he ends up. Andrew, you?

Speaker 3:
[49:56] I'm going to go Emmanuel McNeil Warren, the Toledo safety. He's got the high and a narrow framed, plays a lot of the deep post. But if you turn on his turnover tape, which I went down that rabbit hole a couple of nights ago, so fun, the way he gets the ball out and forces fumbles. And it's not just all the peanut punch. A lot of it's like chicken winging guys are coming in with a shoulder. He gets the ball out. So it's not, hey, stand him up and he comes and gets it out. He gets that ball out and you can't you can't teach that. Well, you can either have it or you don't sometimes. And he has it.

Speaker 1:
[50:35] A literal nose for the ball. Like he actually has it. He is again, it's not the pick production. It's the no, no, just being around the ball. He had. Yeah. He hit like his plays. His best plays are so cool. I couldn't decide whether I want him a thing of an hire. I put I kept chickening out, put him next to each other. I was like scheme fit, head drinking, baby. Yeah, that's what it was. And I the comparison I had for him was almost like a diet coke. Cam Chancellor diet coke. Yeah, I can't chance like a skinnier because he's tall too. Right. Cam was 6'3. Same with McNeil Warren. Big hitters. McNeil Warren can kind of get out of control when he's going to come out and tackle us. But I really liked him. I'm not shocked that he lasted till round two. But I don't think that's an indictment on him. If that makes sense. I think it's more just like how the chips fell for these picks and everything. Talking about that, mine most of the trigger players is the Tennessee Corners. I'll put it that way. Jermon McCoy, who fell because of his injury, because I do think his top 15 ability, top 10 ability. I think I'm not just the only one saying that. I think the league thinks that way too. Then Colton Hood, his teammate who did play last year. They'd never played together funnily enough. But yeah, Hood got a lot of talent. I like his ability. I've viewed him more as a man guy, a man coverage player. Again, I think it's just more where these players win. The only couple of corners went round one. I think teams went more beef. But I like both of these guys, and I think they could be nice quality stars. McCoy could be more, just depends on his health, but not shocked that both of them fell to day two. Let's wrap this up. Bold prediction for day two. Andrew, I'm going to start with you. We're going to stink over on this.

Speaker 3:
[52:07] Okay. So this is bold, and honestly, I don't think it's going to happen. But I'm going to roll it out there nonetheless. I'm going to say no running backs on Friday night.

Speaker 6:
[52:19] I think this is live.

Speaker 3:
[52:21] No running backs on Friday night.

Speaker 6:
[52:22] You got two rounds to go through, a lot of picks.

Speaker 1:
[52:25] But over under is like one and a half.

Speaker 5:
[52:27] Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[52:28] You know, compared to last year, any year, I feel like, scouting running backs last year was exhausting because I was watching so many guys. And I was like, man, this is another round three guy. This is another round three guy.

Speaker 3:
[52:38] Don't go spend money on a running back.

Speaker 1:
[52:40] Go get a day two back in an hour.

Speaker 6:
[52:42] And there's really not that many open spots either. Like when I was trying to pair these guys to teams and stuff, it's like the Seahawks filled their need tonight with Judarian Price. And they're like one of the few teams that has a clear runway to a starting running back. Minnesota probably needs a back. Denver might want like a banger back to compliment RJ Harvey for when JK Dobbins eventually misses time. But like, you need depth in the room, of course, but you could maybe just say, hey, kick that down to round four if there's only a couple of guys. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[53:13] It's more complimentary guys, like as opposed to like maybe, oh, yeah, for sure, this guy's a 50-50 split guy.

Speaker 3:
[53:19] Last year, you had two running backs go in the top seven, I think, round two.

Speaker 6:
[53:24] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[53:24] You had a coach round in Trevion.

Speaker 1:
[53:26] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[53:27] 36 and 38 or 36 and 39, something like that.

Speaker 1:
[53:30] Yeah, Caleb Johnson in round three, RJ Harvey in round two. Like guys, like that's what I was going through this year's class, I scoured, because I was like, who's my guy going to be? And I also, this is my or this is a big thought on this whole draft class is I'm not dying on any hills. There will be no takes. You see Nate Tice victory lapping or going like, oh, I meant this. When I said this, I was like, oh, I did Mendoza and I got out of here. But I really do think that like running back wise, it's just a lot of like, oh, he's fine. I have to squint. But like, I don't know, like like an Emma Johnson round four. These guys are all true round four guys, as opposed to last year. Like Scadaboo was like, I want to say it was like my running back 10. And he might have been like three in this class. You know, like it's just just how these kinds of classes go. But yeah, if you needed one, last year was the year to get it.

Speaker 3:
[54:17] So it makes sense why Walker was at before or after drinking out of a shoe on Twitch.

Speaker 1:
[54:23] I knew that going in, you know, with him, you know, you can't. Well, you watch him play just once and he's just got. I know what you're about. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[54:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[54:30] I kind of there's not much to squint at there. So you got that one, Andrew. Chuck, let's go with you. Biggest prize around to our bold prediction. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:
[54:37] In day two, I'm going to go with it because I read a headline once that has stuck in my head where it was after the combine. And there is a headline that said top 10 quarterback green, you know, goes out of the combine, right? And it was top 10 in the sense that Arkansas quarterback Taylor Green is one of the top 10 quarterback prospects in this draft, not a top 10 pick, but headline SEO manipulation is funny. But I do think when you look at this class now, Ty Simpson and obviously Mendoza are already off the board. If you're not a NUS guy or Carson Beck guy, you might just close your eyes and say, let's just take that guy who's 6'6, 230 runs a 4'3 with a rocket arm. Is he good? No, because if he was, he wouldn't pick today. He would have been the first pick of the draft if he had the consistency I needed. But the talent level is really, really difficult to find. And someone's going to squint and say, shoot, we don't have much to develop. Why not this guy?

Speaker 1:
[55:35] Yeah. I mean, he's my prediction. He's got some Kaepernick to him. I have a round four, round five graded on him. Like I went NUS, Simpson and then back in tailing green. But they're wildly different animals. That's like, it's this tier. It's what you want. It's like, yeah, you know, it's like, it's what you want to QB spot.

Speaker 5:
[55:52] Tailing green. My comp for him is like, what if Colin Kaepernick got men in black mind wiped every day when he woke up? That's how it is. Yeah. What's the place? I don't know, but I can run around and throw them.

Speaker 4:
[56:06] Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[56:06] I'm trying to think of some joke on fifty first dates. Fifty first, fifty first place.

Speaker 4:
[56:12] Yeah. Fifty first, fifty first place.

Speaker 1:
[56:14] Oh, man. No, he it's a guy that tools, tools, tools. It's all about that. That's the guy on day three that I've been like, if you want to take a shot, why not? This is something we've come to. We're talking about JJ. McCarthy, nine. And we're talking about, well, OK, what you're doing. And also this is tie Simpson related. So, all right, with this breaks right, this breaks right. We developed this. All right. Then what do you got? Kirk Cousins plus. Yeah. Well, as opposed to like, why don't you take a shot on Richardson? Because if this hits, we know you got something kind of the same thing. Like on day three, do I want like a Luke Altmeyer, who I don't hate or anything? Or do I want Kate Klubnick or do I want Taylor Greene?

Speaker 3:
[56:49] And then did you have Terrell Pryor in three years?

Speaker 1:
[56:52] That's what Terrell Pryor, like, you know, but Joe Webb, Joe, you know, something like that. Throwback.

Speaker 4:
[56:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:58] Right. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[56:59] But Taylor Greene started a playoff game, guys.

Speaker 4:
[57:01] Come on. He did.

Speaker 1:
[57:02] Right. No. And Greene is a guy, like you said, if like he had this stuff, he'd be going way higher. Even me, he was all tools like, and that's a day three guys, because it just has so much to work on. But, you know, it's a fun little dark story. Maybe I'll take Matt. What about you for day two? Bold prediction.

Speaker 6:
[57:17] Yeah. I mean, I guess this is not really a bold prediction, but, you know, the other option was one thing we want to see. I want to see what the receiver run ends up. I mean, listen, just like I said, it's it's almost one o'clock or it is one o'clock. I'm just playing the free bird. We got I got I got 11 guys tomorrow. I was doing on my phone. I was counting. I have 11 guys tomorrow that I think are worthy of being taken on day two at the wide receiver position, and it's all like different types, too, which is the fun part. You have your like kind of glue guy ish players in Antonio Williams, Jeremy Bernard. You have to like perimeter collegiate ball winners. And I think you could kick inside of the slot in Elijah Sarad and Malachi Fields. You've got kind of high upside dice rolls like Chris Bell or Chris Brazile. I kind of think he might slip out of the third. I think he might go on day three, but that's that might be a prediction.

Speaker 4:
[58:05] Oh, Chris Brown.

Speaker 1:
[58:06] Oh, Brazile.

Speaker 6:
[58:08] Yeah, Brazile could go on day three.

Speaker 5:
[58:10] I think it's Chris Brown.

Speaker 4:
[58:10] I was like, well, I wouldn't take him on day three.

Speaker 1:
[58:14] No, Brazile, the league is brilliant.

Speaker 6:
[58:17] Bold prediction would be that like Brazile does not come on day two.

Speaker 1:
[58:20] Yeah, there's character stuff there.

Speaker 6:
[58:21] Character stuff. The media is always higher on the Tennessee guys and the Looney Tunes offense than the Michigan.

Speaker 1:
[58:26] Dude, I want to love the traits, but.

Speaker 6:
[58:28] There's a lot there. There's a lot there. And you also have like small explosive separators that I'm going to fall for, like the Cyrus Allens and the Dion Berks.

Speaker 1:
[58:36] So you like Berks a lot.

Speaker 6:
[58:38] I have only a DJ on and you're just like, I didn't pay him to say that either. I know he was into it. So there are dozens of us Dion Berks guys.

Speaker 5:
[58:46] He doesn't do it anyway.

Speaker 3:
[58:48] Shane, I went to Purdue, had Dion Berks, Tyrone Tracy, Max Clair, Dylan Theinamit, Nick Scorton.

Speaker 6:
[58:56] There's like five people I've talked to this year that have been like, oh, you just got to watch the Purdue tape on a bunch of different projects.

Speaker 5:
[59:03] What is going on at Purdue?

Speaker 1:
[59:03] All their film at Purdue was probably better than what they showed in the last year. Like it's got a, that was, Scorton was the craziest watch. Cause you, I remember you going like, why'd you have him so high? I was like, he was awesome at Purdue. I don't know. And that's what he looked like at the Panthers this year. It was much more Purdue than A&M, so I know.

Speaker 3:
[59:22] I did a Purdue, Ohio State game a couple of years ago for NBC for Peacock. And you look back on the roster for Purdue.

Speaker 4:
[59:28] Yeah. NFL guys all over the place.

Speaker 1:
[59:31] Real speed and all that stuff.

Speaker 6:
[59:32] Dionne Burks is the next one.

Speaker 4:
[59:34] Dionne Burks is part of that team.

Speaker 1:
[59:36] That's so funny.

Speaker 6:
[59:37] Matt Harmon, Phil for it again. Small separator.

Speaker 1:
[59:39] Oh, God. Well, Denzel Bosson going around too. I'm sure some people are just going to be big guys. All right. For me, bull take for day two is a QB that's already on the roster gets traded. So that's an Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 6:
[59:53] Trying to get Tanner McKee to Arizona.

Speaker 1:
[59:56] To Arizona, to Pittsburgh. Tanner McKee to the Steelers. They're AFC, NFC trade. I mean, come on, like not to say, don't worry about division or conference there. You know, that's the one right there. No, McKee, something like that. I don't think, I think the foreigners made clear that Mack Jones is untouchable and everything. So, you know, maybe just one of those day two quarterback trades or backup quarterback trades, whatever you want to call it. So full takes day two, round two. It'll be fun. We got sixty four pick. No, six more than sixty four pick a lot more. Let's go say we got comp picks as well. Fitzy will be driving that ship around the ship. I'll be sitting down with Spencer Fano after he comes from the Raiders bar, which was rolling still there.

Speaker 4:
[60:39] Should we go to Raiders bar now? We should go to Raiders bar.

Speaker 5:
[60:41] How far away is that?

Speaker 4:
[60:44] I was going to work this into the show and I totally spaced.

Speaker 3:
[60:48] How about the it's my first time here. You guys have been here before, right? I've been here in New York. You obviously have.

Speaker 6:
[60:53] Not since pre pandemic, like a different world.

Speaker 3:
[60:55] You know, we have live beer taps in the kitchen.

Speaker 5:
[60:58] They're locked right now though.

Speaker 4:
[60:59] No, I mean, they weren't this afternoon before the show.

Speaker 5:
[61:02] They were about after our last one.

Speaker 6:
[61:04] Charles explored it after the show and found they were locked.

Speaker 1:
[61:07] I was wondering where you guys were.

Speaker 4:
[61:09] Before the show they were on, I did not partake.

Speaker 3:
[61:12] I was thinking of leading our show by saying, hey, it's great to be here. By the way, we have beer.

Speaker 1:
[61:15] I don't have two tabs. I know.

Speaker 6:
[61:19] One day too, we'll get a little weird.

Speaker 1:
[61:21] It's almost, what time is it right now?

Speaker 3:
[61:23] One, ten.

Speaker 1:
[61:25] I was watching the LA to Merino, that 30 for 30 doc on the flight in here.

Speaker 3:
[61:30] Marvin and his notebook?

Speaker 1:
[61:31] Yeah. So 1983 draft time started at 8 a.m. East Coast time. They wrapped up, because they go, round one commences at 11:37 a.m. Ends at 11:37 a.m. In the Marriott, in the Marriott Ballroom. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[61:48] We could go to brunch.

Speaker 1:
[61:49] We could brunch after. The Bears almost didn't get their pick in. Like, you got Jets fans hanging over, yelling at them. And then that's not like this. Or you got us in here, in the office watching it.

Speaker 5:
[62:00] Getting soft as a country, you know.

Speaker 1:
[62:03] What is it? 400,000, 300,000 people a night in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 5:
[62:07] Yeah. Well, not too many. Wow. It is pretty crazy.

Speaker 6:
[62:11] Like, I mean, I was thinking about this when the lady, like, was cheering for, like, Peter Woods, like some chiefs, like, there's like no way any of these people know who any of these human beings are.

Speaker 4:
[62:21] And they're losing their mind.

Speaker 1:
[62:22] It's the that's why I love the Lyman picks. It's all these crazy fans. They've been waiting like eight hours. I saw the pictures. They were on Pittsburgh. And then they and it's like someone gives a bad answer on Family Feud. All right. All right.

Speaker 2:
[62:36] Yeah. OK. All right.

Speaker 6:
[62:37] They really got to work themselves into it. And then by the end of the day, they're fired up.

Speaker 1:
[62:41] And they just read and they listen to their pod and they're going to go. But thank you. Everyone that shows interest in the draft for making this possible. So we appreciate it. Everyone that checked out our live coverage of round one. We got more live coverage of day two. Three of us here. Fitzy, more Charles Robinson, maybe I think as well. Yes, we got Charles Robinson as well. Thank you, Andrew, for not only just.

Speaker 3:
[63:03] Thank you for having me. Truly.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] No, no. It was so much fun.

Speaker 3:
[63:06] I really do mean that. Like, it's awesome to work with you guys finally. Listening to you guys is one thing, working with you guys is another thing.

Speaker 1:
[63:13] I had a blast. No, that was an absolute blast. I mean, watching you work was truly special and a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. You're a pro's pro. No, but it's not like the Olympics, huh? You know, Football 301's draft coverage, Olympics, Football 301 draft coverage, you know, post-show.

Speaker 3:
[63:29] What if I told you I love them both?

Speaker 1:
[63:32] The real gold zone. This is the real gold zone. Inside coverage, Yahoo Fancy Forecast, Chuck is falling asleep, Football 301, thanks to the entire production team. Oh my God, scheduling, just keeping staying up with us on the East Coast time.

Speaker 4:
[63:47] Oh, and we're all back together Saturday after we get done.

Speaker 1:
[63:50] Yes, we are. We are back Saturday. We can do a big pod then. Yes. So we will talk even more there about the 500 picks of the Browns. I'll be in Berria. Just doing my job. It's like you should be hosting. No, but I really appreciate you guys are sitting here and everybody here should be rounded up. I'm getting the red light, getting the green light. Let's go. Thank you all. Like subscribe Football 301 Insight coverage. I do fancy forecasts, all that good stuff. See you guys next time. Good night now.