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Speaker 1:
[00:03] Hey, come see us doing live shows, May 7th in Burbank, California. That's a Thursday, May 16th, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Then we'll be in Oklahoma City, Spokane, Washington, and Tacoma. Go to jimmydore.com for a link for tickets. Let's move on to Iran because it happened again. If Trump were a geyser in Yellowstone, he'd be called old unfaithful. He says Trump is extending the Iran ceasefire now indefinitely, but he's going to maintain a blockade of Iranian ports. So here's his tweet where he talked about it, based on the fact that the government of Iran is seriously fractured. Let's just stop there. Do you think the government of Iran is seriously fractured? I don't think so.

Speaker 2:
[01:09] No, all we got to do is read the statements. We've had statements today from the foreign minister, from the head of the parliament, and from the IRGC. And they all said the same thing. So they're singing from the same sheet of music. It's the United States that has got the... We don't have a conductor in charge of an orchestra.

Speaker 1:
[01:27] Okay. So upon the request of field marshal, Asim Manureh and Prime Minister Shabazz Sharif of Pakistan, we have been asked to hold our attack on the country of Iran until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal. I have therefore directed our military to continue the blockade and, in all other respects, remain ready and able and will therefore extend the ceasefire until such a time as their proposal is submitted and discussions are concluded one way or the other. President Donald Trump and, of course, there's their foreign minister, says blockading Iranian ports is an act of war and thus a violation of the ceasefire, striking a commercial vessel and taking its crew hostage is an even greater violation. Iran knows how to neutralize restrictions, how to defend its interests and how to resist bullying. What do you make of Trump's statement and the response?

Speaker 2:
[02:33] Well, Trump is off in La La Land. Some have described it. Robert Barnes, they did an interview with him the other day and he's got pretty good information from inside the administration. Trump is exhibiting demonstrable signs of early dementia. Everything from threatening to end civilization for Iran, followed up by these vicious, vile attacks on Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, Riley Gaines for God's sake and the Pope. It's like you want to come up with a list, come up with a short list of people he hasn't attacked. It'd be one thing if he was going after it on a substantive basis saying, they said X, Y and G and this is why it's wrong. But no, it's the kind of crap you saw from 12 and 13-year-old yelling insults at each other and talking about each other's mother's sexuality. To call Tucker and Candace, well, Tucker, low IQ, Candace, low IQ, excuse me, and then to compare Candace is not being as attractive as Mrs. Macron in France. Deliver it mistake. It can't even be taken seriously. So there's real questions about Trump's mental status. If he wanted to go out of this, why do you impose a blockade when Iran has said, hey, we're willing to open the Strait of Hormuz, just meet our conditions? Plus, he says, we're waiting for them to give us a coordinated plan. They already did that. They did that 14 days ago. So that plan was delivered to the White House. JD Vance, my understanding, was the one who handled it in terms of getting it from Pakistan. Just, Trump doesn't want to accept it. The deal is there to be had. Iran will agree to basically go back to the old JCPOA, allow restrictions on how much enriched uranium they have, allow inspections of its sites. But more and more, it looks like we're using the nuclear issue as just an excuse to attack Iran, as opposed to that being the actual issue.

Speaker 1:
[04:55] So, on Sunday, Biden's former cabinet member in charge of negotiations with Israel said that if Biden had been re-elected, that he foresaw that they were going to have to do the same thing Trump did and bomb Iran because of their nuclear program. Do you, what do you make of that?

Speaker 2:
[05:19] Yeah, that's just, again, it's nonsense. Iran was willing to make the deal. Iran, in fact, made the deal. It was Jcpoa. And then Trump tears it up. And Europe never fulfills with removing the rest of the sanctions. So then Iran embarked on, okay, we're going to enrich uranium up to 60 percent to see if they would bring them back to the table. But Iran has maintained that they were, they never had the intention to build a bomb. And we actually, we have historical evidence for this. Because if you go back to the 1980s, when the United States backed Saddam and starting a war against Iraq, and then the United States under Ronald Reagan, with Don Rumsfeld leading the charge, supplied Iraq with chemical weapons. We supplied him with the precursors. And starting in August of 83 until August of 88, Iraq launched a total of 20 weapon of mass destruction, chemical weapons, against Iran. And during that entire period, Iran never sought chemical weapons, never used chemical weapons, even though they could have said, hey, you did it to us, we're going to do it to you. Why? Because of their religious belief that it was a sin. There is a novel concept. We actually have a country in the world that believes there are certain things you shouldn't do because it's wrong.

Speaker 1:
[06:41] What do you say to the people we just had on someone who was saying that Iran has been the number one chief sponsor of terrorism in the world for the last 47 years?

Speaker 2:
[06:53] It's a lie. It's a bald-faced lie. Go back to the, just check it. Don't take my word for it, folks. Go look up. Every year the State Department publishes, it's now called Country Reports on Terrorism. When I was there, it was called Patterns of Global Terrorism. Since, and do it on whatever AI search engine, since 2000, the number one sponsors of terrorism have all been, you could put it as the United States or Saudi Arabia or Israel, but not Iran. Most of the terrorist acts, 90 percent of them had been carried out by radical Sunni groups that have carried out attacks against Iran. That is one of the biggest lies out there. Oh, Iran is a sponsor of terrorism. But here's the other point. We say, well, they've been killing lots of Americans. Okay, let's go with, that's through their proxies. So they fund Hamas and Hezbollah. All right, let's use the proxy test. Hamas and Hezbollah combined have probably responsible for less than 3,000 American deaths over the last 46 years. And actually, because Hamas didn't start until 1987, Hezbollah started in 1982. So, okay, we'll go back 44 years. But the United States backed Iraq. The United States provided chemical weapons to Iraq that were used against Iranians that killed over 350,000 Iranians. And then we get people saying, well, they chant death to America. No kidding, we're pissed at them for killing 3,500 Americans. And we up the scale a little bit, but not only that, we have continued to fund, organize and arm a terrorist group. It's called the Mujaheddin al-Qaq, M-E-K. It was a designated foreign terrorist organization in 1997 by my old office at State Department. And then in 2012, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama said, never mind, as long as you're attacking Iranians, it's okay. And they carried out assassinations. My old outfit, the CIA started funding them, training them, and organizing them in 2004. So like I said, this crap from American politicians and leaders trying to figure Iran is this big sponsor of terrorism, sorry, it's a lie. I'll debate anybody about it, anytime, anywhere.

Speaker 1:
[09:22] So it's always interesting to me that ISIS and al-Qaeda, for some strange reason, never attacks Israel. And now, the head of Syria is the former chief head chopper from al-Qaeda, and just as we predicted on this show, that if you get rid of Assad, al-Qaeda and terrorists are going to take over. That's exactly what's happened. But he says he wants to be in business with Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu. So that tells me, what does that tell you?

Speaker 2:
[09:56] Yeah, we've always used terrorism as an excuse, as a club, as a justification for stripping people of civil liberties, among other things. Let's recall, Hamas has received over a billion dollars from a guy named Netanyahu. And you've got, again, that's not some mythical story. All you have to do is go out and look up former heads of Mossad, former heads of the Israeli Defense Force. They admit that's what they were doing. And they were doing it for the express purpose of trying to prevent the Palestinian Liberation Organization from coming to power. And unfortunately, the truth is, the United States has also funded ISIS in part. You know, by the one hand, we're fighting them, and on the other hand, we're funding them. And we saw that same thing with respect to 9-11. There were certain elements of the CIA that were working to find the hijackers, and there was other part of the CIA that was actually supporting them and protecting them.

Speaker 1:
[10:55] Let's just get back to what's happening right now. Iran TV tweeted out, The Strait of Hormuz is the lock to which we hold the key, and any attempt to break it is your inevitable suicide. We do not threaten. We present you with one choice, depart in peace or leave as wreckage. The decision to close the strait is the decision to erase your presence from our waters forever. Now, what happened most recently is, you know, Trump keeps saying that we destroyed their Navy, yet this is according to Reuters, Iran sees two ships in the Strait of Hormuz tightening its grip on the strategic waterway after President Trump called off attacks indefinitely with no signs of peace talks restarting. So it seems like they have some kind of Navy, and it seems like they are still controlling the Strait of Hormuz. What do you make?

Speaker 2:
[11:51] Yeah, maybe that's why they call them ghost ships, the mythical. Oh, they're supernatural. No, Trump has lied, again, with respect to this. The Iranian Navy, they're not a blue water Navy. They're more like a Coast Guard, because they use a lot of small boats called bog hammers. So they've got a combination of drone boats. But the reason they're able to close the Strait of Hormuz is not by what they have on the shores of Iran and Oman. It's what they have inland. They have drones. They have coastal defense cruise missiles. They have short range ballistic missiles, all of which can be fired and targeted at any ship that tries to go through there. That's why they can keep it closed. That's why if we try to send a naval force in there to try to open the strait, they'd be blown out of the water by those cruise missiles and such. And some of those are 100 to 200 miles inside the interior of Iran, which means if you're going to try to put a ground force in there to go after it, you're going to need probably upwards of 500,000 to a million men to do that.

Speaker 1:
[13:05] And so what is the point of Trump ramping up? I've been told the numbers of 60,000 troops have been sent to the Middle East most recently. What's the point of that if you know you need way more than that to do a ground invasion?

Speaker 2:
[13:21] Yeah, no, it's flexing muscle that we don't have. Go back to our invasion of Iraq in 2003. We did that with 165,000 troops. Understand that Iran is four times the size of Iraq for starters. We were able to, they have assembly points for those troops. And the assembly point is the place where they can be secure. They're not gonna face incoming missiles. Iraq really didn't have much of a scud missile threat back then. So those troops were safe in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. However, Iraq, Iran now has, they have missiles they can fire 2,000 miles. Where do you put troops in an assembly area in a large force where they're not going to be attacked? And then, how are you going to insert them? Let's take the scenario, you're going to insert them on Karg Island. Okay, let's say we want to do 2,000 troops. That means they're going to do 22 to 23 C-130Js, because each C-130J carries 90 paratroopers in combat loads. So just to get 2,000 guys on the ground, you're going to have 23, you know, it's going to look like rush hour at LaGuardia with all the planes in the air. And guess what? Iran still has air defense despite Trump's claims that they destroyed it all. Just ask the pilot of that F-15 that got shot down, just ask the pilot of the A-10 that got shot down, just ask the pilot of the F-35 and of the KC-1, you know, we got 48 aircraft that have gone down. So Iran, you do that, you're going to, you know, they're going to be shot down. So let's say they get to the ground, then how do you protect them against drones and short-range ballistic missiles that Iran has and will fire in on those positions? And again, you come back and say, what's the mission? What's the objective? To just own a piece of real estate? Because Iran is not dependent upon that island for all of its oil shipments overseas, not by any stretch.

Speaker 1:
[15:21] So, our friend Sayed Mohammed Mirandi tweeted out, everyone should immediately leave the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi and Kuwait. Sailors on all ships in the Persian Gulf must also be prepared to evacuate their ships. This is especially urgent for ships near the Strait of Hormuz, which will be destroyed first. Time is running out. And what he's referring to is that Trump is going to restart the war after this ceasefire. And if they do, Iran is not going to respond proportionately. They're going to go for the jugular, and they're going to take out the energy, and which means the desalination plants inside the Gulf states, which means it's a crisis immediately, and those people are going to have to leave the country. Isn't that what he's saying? And do you believe that's what Iran will do?

Speaker 2:
[16:16] Yes, I believe that's what they will do. He put that out before Trump came out and did his Taco Tuesday routine, where he said, oh, we're extending now the ceasefire. But you're absolutely correct that when they take, if the power plants in Iran are attacked, Iran is going to reciprocate and retaliate accordingly with all of the Gulf states. Now here's the problem that the Gulf states have that Iran doesn't. You know, Professor Morandi, and he's a good friend of mine, he can look out his window in Tehran and see the mountains in the distance. They're snow covered. You don't have snow covered mountains anywhere on the Saudi Peninsula. And so when the middle of May hits, you'd feel more comfortable inside of a fully heated pizza oven than you would walking around in Qatar or Riyadh or Dubai, blazing hot. And so if the power is out, no air conditioning, those cities are going to have to be abandoned because people, it is intolerable living. I experienced firsthand back in 2006, I was in Qatar at Al Udeid Air Force Base en route going into Iraq. And when I heard that there were Europeans coming there for vacation, I said, these people are crazy. This is like saying, hey, I'd like to go to hell for vacation.

Speaker 1:
[17:42] So here is what at a media tweets out, is expected Trump extends the ceasefire time, this time with no end date. Many have been expecting World War III or nukes, but Iran has already won. And this ends in a deal. The war officially ended, in my mind, when the two-week ceasefire was accepted. That was America's exit from the war. Do you think the war is basically, because there's nothing Trump cannot escalate without completely getting the Gulf States demolished. So is the war basically effectively over, and that's why he's extending this ceasefire?

Speaker 2:
[18:21] I wish the fat lady had sung already, you know, but I'm afraid it's not. And it's up to Trump, and Trump's judgment is so fatally impaired that he has lost control over being able to think critically. Because you're right, the deal is there to be had, and America cannot win that. This is what people are having trouble understanding, that we've been told over and over, we got the best military in the world, we got the strongest military in the world, but we've got a military that really was designed for the 20th century. So we got this great Navy with these huge aircraft carriers. The problem is, if they get within 200 miles of the Iranian coast, Iran is shellacking them with drones and cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. So they had to retreat back like the Abraham Lincoln did, out to about 700 miles, say, okay, we don't want to get in too close. So right again, that's neutralized. As we've seen, you can't get the ground force into Iran in any easy fashion. And frankly, we don't have the numbers. Our current army stands at like 452,000, and the Marine strength is about, I think, 140,000. Well, you're going to need upwards when you're going against a million man army, which all the combined forces of Iran have, you're going to need about 3 million men. And remember, it took us 11 months to build up that 165,000 man force in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia back in 2003. So there's, and while all of this is going on, the shutdown of the Gulf, of Persian Gulf, is devastating the global economy. And those economic problems are going to, they're going to hit like the tsunami wave, once the tsunami wave comes rushing inland. You know, we've had that period, this period of the last six weeks, that's been like the start where the, you know, the water withdraws away and people say, oh, look at all the open beach. But that's just, that quiet is literally the calm before the storm.

Speaker 1:
[20:26] So some people say that Trump is pulling off some 5D chess move where he's trying to starve China of oil. And so this is his way and he doesn't care if the Gulf States get obliterated because then everybody's got to come get oil from us and their liquefied natural gas from us. And that now we've got the petrol dollar back and this is this, it's going to... Any truth to any of that?

Speaker 2:
[20:52] No, no, because he keeps saying, okay, we got Iran blockaded. Boy, we got them cut off. You know, I think there's a country south of us, it was Cuba, Cuba, that would be it, that we've had a blockade on it for like 66 years. Now the people of Cuba have suffered and they've, you know, some economic privation, but it hasn't caused them to collapse. And what Trump and his team of folks seem to fail to understand is to the north of Iran is the Caspian Sea, and they've got a direct boat link to Russia, and to their west or to their east, you got Turkmenistan and you've got Pakistan. And Pakistan's got a port in Lahore, Pakistan is more than willing to work with Iran. So Iran's not isolated in the way that we think we have isolated them. And then China and Russia are, they're flooding in supplies regularly over the railroad and over highways.

Speaker 1:
[21:50] Larry Johnson, my good friend, you always have amazing insight and I appreciate you accommodating my schedule once again. I look forward to talking to you again if you'll come back on my show, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:
[22:00] Absolutely, listen, it was an honor to be invited. I watch you all the time, so this is, I get to come be a fanboy today.

Speaker 1:
[22:08] Okay, well likewise, likewise. Okay, Larry, thank you very much for coming on. Everybody check out, what's the new name of your blog?

Speaker 2:
[22:15] sonar21.com.

Speaker 1:
[22:17] Okay, sonar21.com. All right, thank you so much. See you soon.

Speaker 2:
[22:21] All right, my friend, thank you. Bye bye.

Speaker 1:
[22:23] All right. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show, is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmydore.com, clicking on Join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member, and if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Do you put any credence? So there's a lot of theories out there that COVID was a depopulation agenda, because the international bankers and the WEF types, they realized that they can't sustain the aging populations. And so they did this VAX, which has... It's completely toxic, and it had the negative... It has negative efficacy, and they had to rig all the numbers in the systems. Like for instance, they didn't... If you died within 14 days of getting your VAX, they considered you unvaccinated, even though there could be a correlation between you dying from the VAX. So they had to do all that. So do you put any credence into that theory that there is this kind of... Because it was a global phenomenon that they... It wasn't just the United States, it was everywhere, except for maybe Africa. So do you think that there's any credence to that idea that the people in control, really, the handful of billionaires that run the world, really did want a depopulation agenda?

Speaker 3:
[24:16] If that were their plan, I'd be very impressed. I don't think they're that smart, and I don't think they're that strategic. I think that COVID happened because the baby boomers are really afraid of germs. And that's why you have these global lockdowns, because the baby boomers insisted on everyone sitting at home. So the nation that best responded to COVID was Sweden, because the epidemiologist in Sweden said that, you can't stop a virus. It's impossible. So we're not going to disrupt the economy. We're not going to disrupt schooling, but we will protect our vulnerable people, which includes people with diseases, which includes the elderly population.

Speaker 1:
[25:04] Which is basically the Barrington Declaration.

Speaker 3:
[25:07] Basically, basically. And it worked very well for Sweden. Their economy was not as impacted as the rest of the world. But having gone away with COVID, with the COVID lockdown, we can expect that the elite will use the strategy again, the crisis were to emerge, right? So they're not strategic, but they're opportunistic. They don't think ahead, but they see the benefits of certain strategies. So if this war were to continue, we can imagine lockdowns because of the energy crisis.

Speaker 1:
[25:40] Yes. So that's what I'm thinking. So that's why they'll be able to... People have already talked about it, that there's going to be energy lockdowns and that they're going to have surveillance and they're going to let you know how much energy you're allowed to use. And once you exceed that, they're going to cut you off. They're going to stop your car. They're going to stop all that kind of... And do you see that happening?

Speaker 3:
[26:02] Yes, it's all part of the plan, right? The 10-day cost for a technocracy. What is a technocracy? Government ruled by AI. That's why America is building all these data centers, even though they cost a lot of money, they don't really actually make any profit, right? So if you are a company like OpenAI, like the more subscribers you have, the more money you lose, because it actually costs you more money to have subscribers than you can generate profit for them. But you have Operation Stargate in place, $500 billion to build data centers all across America. So why would they do that? And the answer is the tenocracy. The answer is, eventually, you're moving towards an empire, you need to create an AI surveillance state, digital currency, digital ID, and it helps you do a national draft, helps you control the people, it helps you ration energy and food.

Speaker 1:
[27:01] And so, how, do you see a way to turn this around? Or is this over, this is in the cards because history dictates and they, is there, I mean, could there be a charismatic leader who turns this around for the United, but they would just kill him, right?

Speaker 3:
[27:25] Yeah, so, I don't think this plan will work out because the empire is in decline. They're desperate, right? So they want a national draft. They want an AI control grid. This is all part of their plan. But the people in charge aren't that bright and they're not that effective. And I think this is all going to blow up in their face because I think the American people are much more resilient, much more creative than they believe. It's worked out in China. If you come to China, I'll show you around. We have AI surveillance. We have AI digital currency and digital ID. And it's worked out well in China. But the Chinese people are a different breed. The American people love freedom. They love liberty. And I think that the Americans would rather fight than surrender their liberty.

Speaker 1:
[28:15] And so now I'm hearing you say another thing. So there is a chance that the American people, because we do value our freedom, although you couldn't tell, half the country certainly didn't during COVID. They were willing to accept every single restriction on their freedom, including fascist, Nazi-like impositions of making people, forcing people to take experimental medical treatments. So you think that the answer to this lies in the mass of people coming together?

Speaker 3:
[28:51] So, yeah, the COVID lockdowns were bad in America, but they were nowhere near as bad as that in China or Canada, right? In Canada, there was a trucker protest, and these were just people who wanted a meeting with Justin Trudeau because they had questions about the vaccine mandate, and instead, they were debanked. If you actually gave a dollar to the truckers, you also debanked. So Canada is far more authoritarian than the United States. In the United States, if you didn't like the vaccine mandate, you moved somewhere else. You moved to a red state that didn't have these vaccine mandates. You couldn't do that in China, you couldn't do that in Canada, you couldn't do that in Europe. So I think that America is really the best hope for the world. Unfortunately, the people in charge, even though they're not that strategic, even though they're not that smart, they are pretty evil. So we can imagine that they will promote false flag operations, they will promote civil wars, in order to justify the use of a AI surveillance state.

Speaker 1:
[29:51] And so, so you see us, you see our empire in decline, it might work for the next couple of years. And when you say Trump will get a third term, you mean they'll amend the Constitution to make that happen?

Speaker 3:
[30:07] Right, so I actually don't know the legal technicalities here, but what I do understand is that there's actually nothing in the Constitution that prevents Trump from running as a vice president in 2028 and having his son, Don Jr. run at the top of the ticket. And then when they win in 2028 by rigging the election, then Trump can, then Don Jr. can just applicate and then Trump will be the president again for the next eight years.

Speaker 1:
[30:35] I never thought of that. Isn't that funny? I never thought that he would run as vice president. That seems so sinister. So, you don't predict a collapse by the end of 2026 or 27 or even 28, but do you think that we're moving into a multipolar world then, right?

Speaker 3:
[31:05] I mean, you can call it multipolar, but it's really a world in collapse. It's like a branch-age collapse where globalization breaks down and you're going to have like famines all around the world. You're going to have wars. So, the world right now, it's over-leveraged, it's overextended. We've mortgaged the future in order to enjoy the present. An example is that right now, the population of the Earth is about 8 billion people. But that's being supported by fertilizers, by oil, by medicine. So, if the world were to de-globalize and de-urbanize, then people would lack access to fertilizers and cheap energy. And this would mean that we would see a steep population decline over the next 10 years.

Speaker 1:
[31:54] Yeah. I mean, I've seen videos recently of people from the Club of Rome talking about this decades ago, that we can only sustain maybe one or two billion people on this planet. And I just can't believe that like this day. So how come this stuff doesn't get taught in schools? How come people don't talk about this in colleges? How come it's taking Donald Trump to make these kinds of conversations come to the surface? Do you have any theory on that?

Speaker 3:
[32:28] Well, I mean schools, public schools were created to brainwash you, to indoctrinate you. I know because I've worked in education reform for the past 20 years. So I know how screwed up the school system is. There's one word you're never allowed to say in education reform. I've been to a lot of education conferences around the world. And no one ever talks about the elephant in the room, which is the idea of a meritocracy. Why is it that you have a hierarchy in the school system where if you're smart, you're allowed to go to a good school, but if you're dumb, you're not allowed to go to school at all? And the reason is control. The reason is indoctrination. The people who graduated from the Ivy League, and I know because I went to Yale, are the biggest ass kissers in the world. They're not smarter than you. They're not better than you. They just happen to stick up to authority better than you. And that's just the nature of the school system that we have today.

Speaker 1:
[33:18] That is true. Yes, I have noticed the people. They came from Ivy League schools to Hollywood, and they excel quickly. And it's through ass kissing. They know exactly how to do it. They know exactly who's asked to kiss. And I've noticed it in my own little corner of Hollywood.

Speaker 3:
[33:41] Sorry, Jimmy, you used to spend like a week at Yale going to classes, you'd be shocked by the level of education at Yale and Harvard. You'd be like, oh my God, these are the smartest people in the world. Oh my God. This is the level of elite education that we have today. You'd be shocked.

Speaker 1:
[34:03] Yeah, I mean, again, I always claim that I was a C student. I was because I wasn't interested in school at all. But yeah, when I meet these people, I'm not as impressed as I should be. That's for sure. And especially the people...

Speaker 3:
[34:24] But you know, what I admire about you, Jimmy, is that even though you're a C student, you're still curious, you're open minded, you appreciate debate, you ask good questions. And that's a secret to learning in life.

Speaker 1:
[34:41] So the only way to kind of save Western civilization, or the world right now, is for the American people to wake up to this, right? And do you think they will? Or what do you think? What does history tell us?

Speaker 3:
[34:56] So the only hope for the world right now is the American people. Because the people in charge, the elite, they've colonized so many different parts of the world. Like China is a colony of the elite, of the national elite. People don't recognize this. But China is very subservient to the global elite. Europe, Canada. So the best hope for the world is the American people recognize what's happening and they resist. And quite honestly, there's one movement in America right now that has the most promise and that's MAGA, right? So if Tucker Carlson were to run for President of the United States, and MAGA were to fully unify behind him, then I think there's hope for the world.

Speaker 1:
[35:42] Yeah, I would, I don't know if I would call it MAGA because the MAGA has been completely flipped on what it was when Donald Trump became President. It was made up of people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and Dave Smith and even Joe Rogan and Theo Biden. That's all gone. Now it's all the people who were never MAGA are now what Donald Trump refers to as MAGA. So I wouldn't, I would say the former iteration of MAGA which Tucker Carlson could very easily lead. And he's very good at bringing people together now, which is crazy. And now looking through the, looking backwards, you see how he was demonized only when he started to do the right thing. The establishment loved him. The left always hated him because divide and conquer is what the establishment does. But now he got in trouble with his bosses when he started to see through it. And he saw through the, you know, the empire and he saw, he saw through the war machine and you can't do that. And that's why he's got, he got kicked out of, you know, his establishment position. Do you, what do you, so do you, do you think that that's, let's say Tucker Carlson ran for president, wouldn't they just kill him?

Speaker 3:
[37:09] You know, I'm most impressed with Tucker Carlson and not only do I think his heart is in the right place, as you say, he's been the most consistent anti-war voice in mainstream American media for the longest time. And that's very brave of him. But I also think he has a very good read on the political winds in America. He's also like an American patriot. He loves America deeply in his heart. And so I think there are a lot of people in Washington DC who sickly support him, right? I mean, like, I don't think that everyone in Washington DC is corrupt and willing to sell out. I think there are a lot of people in Washington DC who are just hoping that a leader emerges that can represent the true America, who restore America to its former greatness. And I would not be surprised if there were a lot of people in the deep state itself who are very supportive of a resurgent America under Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 1:
[38:17] And you say that the... You think that the original MAGA coalition, the people like Tucker Carlson, the Candace Owens, that if they can somehow find a way to organize and come together, but doesn't that involve... You need labor, right?

Speaker 3:
[38:35] What do you mean by labor?

Speaker 1:
[38:36] By you need unions.

Speaker 3:
[38:40] Right. Yes. But unions have been decimated in America, right? I mean, they're no longer as powerful as they used to be. Is that correct?

Speaker 1:
[38:50] Yeah, 100 percent. Less than 10 percent of the workers are in unions, and most of them are government union, government workers. But, you know, I said, like, if the railroads... We almost had a railroad strike here, and then Joe Biden and the Democrats interceded to make it illegal for them to go on strike. And if they would have, they would have won that strike immediately, and it would have empowered workers across the country, which is why they had to make it illegal. And so, if you get... So, let's, for instance, if you got the railroad workers to actually not go to work, that would cripple capitalism in America if you got the port workers to do the same. If you got the people who work at the Amazon fulfillment centers, or if you got the UPS drivers... Even one of them, but if you got them all together, that would be it, and that's how you have to take over the country. That's what I think. You have to stop capitalism, and that's how you gain power. It's kind of like...

Speaker 3:
[39:49] You know what?

Speaker 1:
[39:49] Go ahead.

Speaker 3:
[39:50] Sorry, sorry. Yeah, I didn't think of this before, but you convinced me. The key is labor, right? Because AI can replace actually the white-collar class, teachers, professors, accountants, lawyers. They can be replaced actually pretty easily, but you need labor. You need essential workers. You need people to actually do the real work. We know this from COVID, right? Where during COVID, these people still have to work, but everyone else could just at home on their lap and display on their laptops. So, I mean, you're absolutely right. I think the key is to galvanize the labor movement.

Speaker 1:
[40:27] And you know, of course, they know how they've infiltrated the labor movement. So, just like everything else is infiltrated, just like the Democratic Party, the Green Party, the Republican Party, the DSA, they're all infiltrated by the deep state and control that it's all divide and conquer. And so, just like the union, so it's going to be very hard, but that's the only way we can set, you know, and the template is there from the truckers, right? So the truckers did it on even a small scale and it worked. If we could get the AFL-CIO, which is the truck drivers, just them to do it, or if you just get the railroad workers, or if you get them in conjunction with the port workers, that's it, game over, the people win. And of course, they'll try to do things like assassinations and again, more infiltrations, but that's the, to me that, because people like to say this, they say this a lot. You'll hear people say, oh, we need a general strike. Okay, that's a great idea. Stop saying that, right? Say something specific and constructive. And what I'm saying, I think, is actually more specific and more constructive and actually something more likely to work. It's, go ahead.

Speaker 3:
[41:40] Yeah, the comment would be illegal immigration, right? So you ask yourself why the Democrats have let in, you know, millions of illegal immigrants when Biden was in power. And it could be a possibility. I mean, like, I'm speculating, but it's just to dilute the power of labor in the future.

Speaker 1:
[41:56] Of course. And to keep the people from coming together to fight the oligarchs, what they do then is you have workers fighting people who are in a more desperate situation than them. And look at that. And the immigrants who we overthrew their governments in their country and made their life unlivable who come here. So now we got the people at the bottom fighting instead of people at the bottom coming together and fighting the people at the top. And it works perfectly. It's working, still working. People are cheering on what ICE is doing across the country. And again, we need to have immigrate. We need to have a strong border and all that stuff. But the demonization of the person... I have always said this, if you find yourself angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, it's a good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you. It's obvious.

Speaker 3:
[42:48] Yeah. And also, we have to remember that ICE is also part of a technique plan, right? Because you want to create an AI surveillance state. So you need an enforcement mechanism, that would be ICE. So what's happening is that they're using illegal immigration in order to normalize ICE on the streets everywhere.

Speaker 1:
[43:02] That's exact. And so, yeah, they don't need $80 billion to run an ICE, it's an immigration program. What they do is if you want to create another authoritarian police state, and that's what you would do. And you're exactly right. And that's what the job of ICE there isn't really immigration. It's there to normalize this kind of authoritarian takeover of our life, this technate state. That's exactly what's happening. All right. This is always good to talk to you, and it's always so depressing. But it's good. You've got to see it first. You've got to have the scales fall from your eyes, so then you know what to do about it. Let me... What gives... Does anything give you optimism? And what off ramps are there do you see for these worse outcomes?

Speaker 3:
[43:53] So people like you, people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, give me tremendous hope for the future because you're still allowed to say what you believe, you speak from the heart, you have tremendous audiences, your audiences love you, and you know this for yourself, but your voice is resonating all across America and the world. So that's what gives me hope. The other thing that gives me hope is that the people in charge aren't that smart, they're not that strategic. We shouldn't give them too much credit. They're going to make a lot of mistakes, they're going to miscalculate, they're too arrogant, they're going to create opportunities for other people. The third thing I will say is that the elite themselves are not unified. If they were, they could just do what they want. There are different factions of the elite fighting amongst themselves. And so this creates opportunity for new global movements that could possibly galvanize labor, can galvanize 99 percent.

Speaker 1:
[45:00] Now this is my favorite story. This guy who was the head of the nuke program at the Pentagon got honeypotted. James O'Keefe sent a pretty girl to bat her eyes at him and he started spilling all the secrets. UFG's chemical nuclear caught on a hidden camera. Want to watch some of it? Let's watch. It's fun.

Speaker 4:
[45:24] I lived in Ukraine and worked there with the government. That government is so corrupt. They stole our money. I worked on Obama's tax money that he said. They just stole it and they bought houses, cars, $100,000 cars. They're officials in the government. So they get their hands on the tax money from you and me. And they're like, oh yeah. And then now that it's $100 billion, $200 billion, they're like, stealing it all, so.

Speaker 5:
[45:50] Okay, so why would they use that money for that? Wouldn't they need it for like, to use their weapons? Exactly.

Speaker 4:
[45:57] Well, yeah, exactly. But if they can get themselves rich and leave and go live in Dubai, that's better than... Yeah, they don't care about the people. No, they couldn't care less about the people.

Speaker 6:
[46:08] Andrew Hug even details that he personally witnessed 10 Ukrainian officials steal a million dollars each and immediately spend it on luxury cars.

Speaker 4:
[46:16] Like you can tell about Ukraine and how corrupt they're like when I was there, they stole a million dollars one day. That's the first thing I saw stolen was a million bucks. And they bought these guys that make 350 bucks a month for their political job. Each guy, 10 guys stole a million. They each bought a hundred thousand dollar car. Like BMW 7, Range Rover, all 100,000 dollar cars from the money Obama did.

Speaker 6:
[46:41] The branch chief claims he reported it to the Obama White House to which they replied, quote, we don't care.

Speaker 5:
[46:47] Did anything ever happen with that?

Speaker 4:
[46:51] I reported it. Guess what the White House said? We don't care. Don't talk about it. We don't want that in the paper because it makes Obama look bad. Looks like he's not in control. Yeah, they don't care. It's like a million dollars.

Speaker 1:
[47:02] We don't care. So you're telling me that the money we've been sending to Ukraine for soldiers and equipment isn't going to the soldiers and equipment? I mean, oh my God. All of you social media knuckleheads who are so proud to show the yellow and blue flag under your profile pic, you're still using that, are you? Or have you gone back to being proud of being vaccinated again?

Speaker 7:
[47:29] Both. Pretty much both. I wear a mask and I put a Ukraine flag on my profile.

Speaker 1:
[47:34] If you guys were any more ignorant, the universe would just suck you into a black hole because it hates a vacuum.

Speaker 7:
[47:40] It will. Dude, it's amazing that this is coming as an undercover video when how many years of like outright open corruption have we covered on this show, such as when CBS said 70 to 80 percent of the weapons weren't arriving and were just being sold into Africa by Ukrainians.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] Yeah. It just shows you how easy it is to manipulate most of the people in the United States who are for this war. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[48:12] We've been softened up quite a bit with a lot of bullshit, haven't we?

Speaker 1:
[48:15] Yeah. Well, the whole Russian gate thing was to get you ready for the Ukraine War. That was one of it. One of it was also to discredit Donald Trump. The other part was to get you ready to be supporting this war. And you went right along with it. Every stupid fucking friend that I used to have in Hollywood went right along with this stupid war and they probably still don't know that it's stupid. And that it's nothing but a money laundering operation for the international security state and for the military industrial complex. And as Julian Assange told us, these wars are not meant to be one. They're meant to be ongoing. And those stupid asshole people who call themselves liberal fall for it every time.

Speaker 7:
[49:01] Well, you're programmed from birth.

Speaker 1:
[49:03] I mean, they're for Obama's Libya. They're for Obama's Libya war. They're for Obama's Syria war. They're for the Ukraine war. Finally, they found a war they're not for in Iran. Finally. Thank God.

Speaker 7:
[49:17] Yeah, but that's just because Trump's involved.

Speaker 1:
[49:19] That's right.

Speaker 7:
[49:19] A lot of them are for it. See, here's the thing. Like I said, woke died October 7th. I mean, it'll be resurrected. Don't worry. But for now, it's dead because Hamas in Israel and half of the Zionists, half of this bullshit, liberal bullshit came from Zionists. They're not ADL, the left wing spy organization. They're on the same side as Likud, even if they pretend they're not. They're on Israel side. So that's really all. What I'm angry about is this money could have gone to Israel. I guess what I'm saying is, Israel could have...

Speaker 1:
[49:49] It could stand for you.

Speaker 7:
[49:53] I'm going to put blood on my... I'm going to put Ram's blood on my right ear to signal my allegiance, Jimmy.

Speaker 1:
[49:57] So there's way more to this. There's more videos I'm going to share with you from this Andrew Hug undercover from James O'Keefe.

Speaker 7:
[50:08] Look at this. Nuclear and chemical surety.

Speaker 1:
[50:11] What does that even mean? Surety?

Speaker 7:
[50:16] I'm making sure we have enough chemicals and nukes. I don't know. But this is how much they don't have to hide the deep state to everybody. The second these people think they'll get laid, they'll tell you everything that officially you're not supposed to think. Hey, you know, masks never worked and we made the vaccine just to put in people for it and I work for Pfizer. Then they find out they're not getting laid. So that's how stupid America is. That's why calling things AI slop, you're an idiot because America love slop. It's what you live on, you cows. I don't know who I'm yelling at.

Speaker 1:
[50:51] I know who I'm yelling at. I know exactly.

Speaker 7:
[50:54] Jimmy's frenzy isn't mentioning, but I think I know but don't know. Yeah, I know, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[51:00] No, you know, but you don't know, but you know.

Speaker 7:
[51:04] Yeah, it's a bunch of my friends too. I just told Stef before I had three friends texting about the Southern Poverty Law Center. So, which by the way, F them, good. I'm glad that something bad's happening to that terrible organization that has never been good. I'm glad, but really, so now you see that conspiracy, but you can't get it. Boy, if that one makes you upset, we'd hear what happened with 9-11.

Speaker 1:
[51:28] I heard that we didn't have time to cover the Southern Poverty Law Center thing, but I've known they were a suspect organization for a long time, and I heard that they also funded the Unite the Right Rally. Did you hear about that? That's where they had the torches.

Speaker 7:
[51:42] Yeah, and I bet you they're a cutout for Israel because at the end of the day, it was Israel. First of all, every tech company to censor referenced Southern Poverty Law Center. And who runs all the tech? Why, Zionist fucking scumbags, that's who. Who were all Democrat at this time, if you recall. Larry Ellison is an Obama Democrat who now loves Trump.

Speaker 1:
[52:11] Hey, this is Jimmy Dore, who's this?

Speaker 8:
[52:13] What's up, dude, it's Kash Patel.

Speaker 1:
[52:15] Hey, hey, what's up, FBI Director Patel? How nice to hear from you again. You've had quite a week this week.

Speaker 8:
[52:23] You can say that again, dude, quite a week indeed. But it was a week, dude, and I will continue to have weeks, one after another, as I continue to serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States and the Department of Justice in the capacity of Director of the Federal Bureau of 28, 29, 30 fucking investigations.

Speaker 1:
[52:50] Okay, I see.

Speaker 8:
[52:52] Did you see my press conference, dude? Did you see it?

Speaker 1:
[52:55] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[52:55] I'm not taking this shit from the lion ass media. I'm calling them out for the fucking liars they are. I'm not going anywhere, dude. I'm going to be Director forever. Fuck it. Clutch. Longest serving. Fucking sick. I'll make J. Edgar Hoover look like Anthony Scaramucci, but without all the fucking homo shit. No homo.

Speaker 1:
[53:23] Yeah, tell that to your Las Vegas billionaire room. Anyway, all right, so you continue to deny the allegations made against you by The Atlantic.

Speaker 8:
[53:32] Excuse me, excuse me, I was talking.

Speaker 1:
[53:37] Yes, you were saying no homo.

Speaker 8:
[53:39] That's talking, dude, saying no homo is talking. No homo are words, no homo.

Speaker 1:
[53:54] Sir, can you please address the accusations made about you by The Atlantic?

Speaker 8:
[54:01] Oh, the soon to be bankrupt Atlantic for my lawsuit? Sure, it should be called the Pacific because it's so far to the left. Yeah, why not? Yeah, let's talk about their lies. First of all, the implication that I am drunk or hung over on the job, absolutely a lie. Complete fabrication. I have never been drunk or hung over in any capacity while on the clock for the federal government. Obviously, yes, I drink alcohol sometimes, as the photos of the US Olympic hockey team show, but I've never and ever never been drunk at work.

Speaker 1:
[54:30] Okay, got it. No drinking at work.

Speaker 8:
[54:35] I didn't say that.

Speaker 1:
[54:38] What?

Speaker 8:
[54:40] I didn't say I don't consume alcohol basically constantly. I said I don't get drunk or hung over because I'm not a fucking amateur. President Trump does not appoint fucking amateurs to high positions. He appoints people who know how to handle substance abuse and have zero experience or credential. Trust.

Speaker 1:
[55:00] Okay, I don't understand.

Speaker 8:
[55:03] Because you're a amateur. Once I've had enough Miller Lights or whatever that would make any five foot four, 120 pound man drunk. Well, then that's when you have a key bump or a little adderall or whatever. It surprised me whatever Randy and them can scare up from the evidence blocker that point is I know how to ingest substances in the right amounts and how to balance them so I'm never incapacitated. Always 100 percent locked in heat seeking, pussy racking and crime solving.

Speaker 1:
[55:38] Okay, so I see no hangovers from this activity.

Speaker 8:
[55:42] Dude, I'm the director of the FBI. I can take you to where Jimmy Hoffa is buried right fucking now. You think I can't get my hands on Pedialyte and B12? Bitch, please.

Speaker 1:
[55:54] Okay, got it. Now about this incident where you got locked out of your account and you thought that you had been fired.

Speaker 8:
[56:04] Never happened, dude. Total fucking lie. As if, dude. As if I could ever get locked out of shit. Get locked out of my own shit. I'd like to see them try. My ex-girlfriend tried to lock me out of our place once. Look how that turned out. Not really a girlfriend, I guess, but she had seemed flirty to me and technically it was her place. But obviously, I was going to be moving in soon, just a matter of time. And I still broke in, dude. Okay, I told you that.

Speaker 1:
[56:34] You sure are sniffing a lot. So you never get-

Speaker 8:
[56:40] What, dude?

Speaker 1:
[56:43] So you never got locked out of your account?

Speaker 8:
[56:46] I simply forgot my password, which is me, Khalifa69420, and had a moment of reflection where I thought I may have been locked out, where I smashed some desk decorations and threw over a bookshelf until Randy then brought me my Tiva base. And this is so not a big deal at all, dude. Like, seriously, what the fuck, rolling my fucking ass off laughing, dude.

Speaker 1:
[57:12] Okay.

Speaker 8:
[57:14] Look, forget all the bullshit, dude. Look at me. Look at me, dude. I'm serious. Look at me.

Speaker 1:
[57:21] I can't. I can't really.

Speaker 8:
[57:23] Well, look at the phone, man. Look at wherever my voice is coming from. Read my lips. I am not going anywhere. I am not getting fired. And even if I am, I am not going anywhere.

Speaker 1:
[57:35] You're not leaving your post even if you get fired?

Speaker 8:
[57:38] Fuck no, dude. This is late stage cash. This is the strongest cash. This is five foot four and three quarters cash. And if you can see all the shit that's laid out on my desk right now in little piles, you would know that I am armed for war against the media, against haters, against Jan and the mortgage fraud division on the 14th floor. She fucking knows what she did. And you, dude.

Speaker 1:
[57:59] Me?

Speaker 8:
[58:00] Yeah, dude. You're fucking with the wrong bull, dude. You're one of Kash's enemies. You are no friend of Kash. Well, now you were dealing with late stage cash and this shit is like the third act of Scarface and I'm fucking Scarface. You better watch your ass.

Speaker 1:
[58:14] So you're going to get blazed out of your mind on Coke, get riddled with the machine gun bullets and then die?

Speaker 8:
[58:22] Yes, yes, and no. Scarface only died because he didn't do enough Coke. If he had done more, he would have survived that shit. I won't make that same mistake. And I will be coming after you in the meantime, dude. Trust. Expect that shit, bro.

Speaker 1:
[58:43] OK, well, thanks for warning and thanks for calling it. I'm going to have to let you go. Goodbye, Director Patel.

Speaker 8:
[58:50] I'm coming after you, dude. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1:
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