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[01:41] This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Speaker 1:
[02:02] Two quarterbacks, two running backs, five wide receivers, and one tight end drafted in the first round of the 2026 NFL Draft. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Are the Jets going to have a good offense? They took Kenyon Sadiq and Omar Cooper Jr. Are we gonna get big time targets for Carnell Tate on the Titans, KC Concepcion on the Browns? Could Jadarian Price on the Seahawks be better than Jeremiyah Love on the Cardinals this season? We're gonna, Dave's like, what? What? You think it's crazy?

Speaker 4:
[02:37] I'm gonna defer to Heath, who is the master at putting out odds for things like this. He did this once upon a time. It might have been, okay, I don't know if it was on Draft Night, but the whole Malik Neighbors versus Brian Thomas Jr. debate, like what are the odds that the underdog will be better than the favorite? And I think it's pretty clear that love is the favorite. So what would the odds be for Price to be better than love?

Speaker 5:
[03:07] I would say that love is at minus 220.

Speaker 4:
[03:12] Yeah, I'd put it there too, which means that we're like at plus 180 or so for Price.

Speaker 5:
[03:16] Plus 180 was exactly what I was thinking. I wasn't sure how much extra juice they're charging these days, I assume, with inflation.

Speaker 1:
[03:26] Well, Jadarian Price went with the last pick. The last pick of the round makes this show a lot more interesting as he goes to the Seattle Seahawks. In his career, he had 15 catches at Notre Dame, so keep that in mind. All right, anyway, welcome everybody. It is Thursday night for us, 1130 p.m. Eastern. If you're listening, it's probably Friday. Good morning, Jamey, or good evening, Jamey. How's it going?

Speaker 6:
[03:48] I'm sure you consider it the morning, so good morning.

Speaker 1:
[03:51] Yeah, there's a lot to that, but we'll get some other time. All right, there was one news item. George Pickens signed his franchise tender. The Cowboys said they're not gonna negotiate with him for a long-term deal. Interesting. So maybe he'll just play this year on the franchise tag and they'll see what happens after that. We have recaps tonight, obviously, tomorrow night or Friday night after rounds two and three, and then Saturday after rounds four through seven. Let's get to some big questions here. Who are the first three rookies selected in Fantasy Drafts? We're drafting right now. Jami, who are the first three?

Speaker 5:
[04:26] Redraft, right?

Speaker 1:
[04:27] Yeah, redraft.

Speaker 6:
[04:30] Who are the first three gonna be?

Speaker 1:
[04:31] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[04:31] Or who am I taking first?

Speaker 1:
[04:33] Who's your top three?

Speaker 6:
[04:35] My top three would be Love, obviously one. I would go Price two and then Lemon three.

Speaker 1:
[04:40] I love the price of Lemons too. Lemon three.

Speaker 6:
[04:44] I knew you're gonna make some stupid joke about Price and Lemon and Lemon and Price, so good job. I mean, come on.

Speaker 1:
[04:50] Lemon three, that's so interesting. Lemon to the Eagles. As the Steelers were getting ready to draft Lemon 21st, I believe, the Eagles traded up to 20 with the Cowboys and took Lemon, snatched them right from the jaws of the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, so Love, Price, Lemon. Dave, how about you?

Speaker 4:
[05:12] Why settle for a sour Lemon when you can have a sweet Tate?

Speaker 1:
[05:16] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[05:17] I will go with Love first, Price second, Tate third.

Speaker 1:
[05:21] Tate to the Titans fourth overall. Love to the Cardinals, by the way, in case y'all missed it, third overall. Heath, we love the Price of?

Speaker 4:
[05:31] Tate.

Speaker 1:
[05:32] Okay. Love, Price, Tate. Lemon, Jamey, Lemon is your number one wide receiver right now to the Eagles. Obviously, we're expecting AJ Brown to get traded.

Speaker 6:
[05:43] Correct.

Speaker 1:
[05:44] All right. Go ahead. Why?

Speaker 6:
[05:46] Well, I just think he ends up with the best quarterback of the group. I like the situation, obviously. Look, Devontae Smith should be the number one receiver there, but clearly they've made a lot of effort to try and replace AJ Brown and not only what they did in terms of the replacements prior to the NFL Draft. Trading two fourth round picks, going up to get Makai Lemon. I thought he slipped in the draft. I thought the Jets should have taken him instead of taking Sadiq, for example. But look, in the discussion prior to the draft, I think Dave was here, number one receiver, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4:
[06:16] He was.

Speaker 6:
[06:17] In the discussion by a lot of draft analysts to be the top receiver. Again, just destination to me is fantastic. I think Tate's in a great spot. I think Jordyn Tyson's in a great spot. I think, hopefully, KC Concepcion is going to be in a great spot when they figure out their quarterback situation, maybe Omar Cooper as well. But I just think Lemon gets the best quarterback and probably the best opportunity as well. 120 plus targets vacated from AJ Brown. If you really love Marquise Brown and Dantavian Wicks and Elijah Moore and those guys, and are afraid that Lemon is going to have a lot of competition, that's fine. I get it. It's very close between him and Tate for me, but I just think Lemon is in the best spot.

Speaker 1:
[06:54] Yeah, I don't know how the Eagles always seem to get the guy that falls. It's crazy. They're good at drafting, but...

Speaker 6:
[07:03] GM from a great college.

Speaker 1:
[07:06] I wonder if Lemon fell to 20 because of... There were the reports that his NFL combine interviews were horrible. He's kind of a different guy. You probably saw his interview after he got drafted. He's just a different guy. But yeah, I mean, look, the Eagles in four seasons with AJ. Brown, here's where they ranked in gross passing yards per game. 9th, 17th, that's really good. Then 30th, then 23rd. They've thrown 24 to 26 touchdown passes all four years, which is solid. They're usually around 13th or so in touchdown passes, but they've been very, very run heavy. So it's kind of interesting. It's like they run so much. They've got a quarterback who usually has 10 plus rushing touchdowns a year, but they do produce good wide receivers. All right. And Heath, why did you say Carnell Tate as number three for you? It's a Lemon Love, Love Price Tate for you and Dave.

Speaker 5:
[08:05] I mean, first off, I had Tate as my number one wide receiver for the draft and Tate was drafted fourth overall. So first off, I think there's just not a lot of reason to change that. Also, well, I think that Lemon definitely landed with the best quarterback. I'm still not sure that the Eagles are going to be a team that throws more than 510, 520 times. And I do think Devontae Smith is going to be the clear number one wide receiver there. And so Tate has a chance to be a number one wide receiver on a team that might throw 550, 600 times. So for next year and for the long term, I just prefer him. But I agree that it's close.

Speaker 1:
[08:47] Okay. Was it tough for you guys to put Jadarian Price second on your list, Dave?

Speaker 4:
[08:54] No, because he's got a clear path to being Seattle's lead running back to start the year.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] It's pretty exciting.

Speaker 4:
[08:59] And if it's him and Emmanuel Wilson until Zack Charbonneau comes back, I feel pretty good about drafting somebody like that. Honestly, I'm thinking like round five, six turn. Let's just get in there. Price is good. The drawbacks to him are that he didn't play a ton, which I don't know. Maybe that's not that big of a drawback, but lack of experience. And he was outplayed by Jeremiah Love. Well, any running back that's in a backfield with love is going to get outplayed by him. You can see what's going to happen to Connor and Algier this year. We know that's going to happen. I think he's a pretty good running back. Top three back in this draft class for sure. Was he worth a first rounder? That's the only thing that I don't know if I agree with, but who really cares about that? When it comes to Fantasy Football, Super Bowl champs have a good offensive line, good offense in general. I think Price is going to be in a position to get our teams off to a good start. And that's why I think he's going to be worth taking with a top 60 pick or so.

Speaker 1:
[09:58] Last year in the regular season, Ken Walker was only the number 28 running back per game. He averaged 11.3 fantasy points per game. He played 17 games and he had only...

Speaker 4:
[10:08] He was sharing with Charbonnet and Charbonnet was taking all the high...

Speaker 1:
[10:11] I'm gonna get there. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4:
[10:14] Well, you're making it sound like it's a terrible spot. I wasn't.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] I was gonna make the point that Charbonnet had 12 touchdowns and Walker only had five, but Walker only also had 31 catches. Heath, go ahead.

Speaker 5:
[10:25] No, I just, I think that it's gonna be weird with Price because you can't really do a full season projection. Like there's a chance that he starts the year with this opportunity in the first four to six weeks. He's awesome. And Zach Charbonnet just comes back and is like a true backup running back that's handling 30% of the work.

Speaker 6:
[10:47] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[10:47] And there's a chance that you get a guy that's a 12 to 13 fantasy point per game guy at the start of the year. And then Zach Charbonnet comes back and he just has his role. And Price really kind of lets you down in the second half. So I might be just a little lower than Dave is, but I still think a guy who's going to be a starting running back at the start of the year for redraft purpose, is going to be the second best rookie pick so far.

Speaker 6:
[11:11] I think the biggest thing will determine, when we get to training camp, we get the Charbonnet reports. So if he's not going to be ready until October, November, I mean, the longer this gets pushed back, the higher and maybe out of control, the Price ADP ends up going, or he gets priced out, however we want to joke with him. But look, there's...

Speaker 1:
[11:31] Come on, Jamey, enough with the puns already.

Speaker 6:
[11:34] There's, unless I read it correctly, wrong, like almost 400 total touches vacated from those two guys, from Charbonnet and Walker. Like, it's a lot.

Speaker 1:
[11:44] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6:
[11:46] There's just a huge opportunity here. The new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak is gone, as we're well aware. The new offensive coordinator, Brian Fleury, was the run game coordinator for San Francisco. You know the last time the run game coordinator became a play caller was Mike McDaniel going from San Francisco to Miami. And Raheem Mostard that year led the NFL in rushing touchdowns. The following season, Devon HN was a superstar and still going. So it's a great tree, obviously. Clearly there's just a huge opportunity for Price. And so again, I think if we get Charbonne early in the season, then Price is probably not going to be worth a pick in round five or round six. But I think that's the right range for him if we're looking at it right now, based on when Charbonne was injured, which was the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.

Speaker 1:
[12:27] Yeah. Okay. And let me ask you real quick. So do you think right now Jadarian Price will have a better year than what Tedarola McMillan had in 2025? He was wide receiver, 23 per game. I think he was like 16 overall. But I just, Dave's like doesn't get anything.

Speaker 4:
[12:50] What the hell kind of comparison is that?

Speaker 1:
[12:51] Because I'm saying, I think Carnell Tate is easily a good comp for Tedarola McMillan. Like he steps into a role where he can have that kind of season. What's that?

Speaker 5:
[13:03] Right.

Speaker 1:
[13:04] I agree with that. Well, you guys ranked Price ahead of Tate and Lemon. I think that you can make the comparison that Carnell Tate jumps into this heavy target role with an unproven quarterback, but could throw up a season like what we just saw from Teterol McMillan.

Speaker 5:
[13:21] I agree with the comparison completely. The only thing that holds me back just a little bit on Tate is the fact that Wondell Robinson is there and Brian Dave was there. And I think that, like, I'm not sure Wondell is going to really matter that much now, but he might still get 125 targets.

Speaker 1:
[13:42] Did you know he had 140 targets in Malik Neighbors Rookie Season 2?

Speaker 5:
[13:47] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[13:48] Oh, and who's the play caller now? Tennessee?

Speaker 1:
[13:50] Yeah, I know it.

Speaker 5:
[13:51] I know it.

Speaker 1:
[13:52] They threw a lot. All right. Next question.

Speaker 4:
[13:55] I thought you were comparing Price to McMillan.

Speaker 1:
[13:57] No, I was.

Speaker 5:
[13:58] He was.

Speaker 1:
[13:59] I was saying, do you, like, do you think he's going to be better than...

Speaker 6:
[14:03] No, I know.

Speaker 5:
[14:04] He's saying Tate is going to be McMillan, so you have to think that Price is going to be better than McMillan to take Price over Tate because McMillan is what Tate is going to be.

Speaker 6:
[14:14] Dave, this is the Bob Barker showdown. Do you take...

Speaker 5:
[14:19] I just want to share my screen and make a little chart to explain Adam's...

Speaker 6:
[14:25] Adam's got a notepad document. Don't worry, he's good.

Speaker 5:
[14:27] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:28] It takes Heath being off the show for a week and a half for him to understand what the hell I'm talking about.

Speaker 5:
[14:32] So it makes perfect sense now.

Speaker 1:
[14:35] All right. How early...

Speaker 5:
[14:36] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[14:37] When are you going to draft Jeremiyah Love? That's the big question. He goes third overall to the Cardinals with 17 running backs. We're going to talk about that after this break on Fantasy Football Today. Jeremiyah Love, Jadarian Price, when are we drafting them? We'll be right back with the answers.

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Speaker 1:
[15:57] All right, Dave. Jeremiyah Love, let's compare him to Harold Fannin Jr. When are you drafting Jeremiyah Love?

Speaker 4:
[16:09] I will draft Jeremiyah Love ahead of Harold Fannin Jr. I will draft Jeremiyah Love in a full PPR league. He's a round two pick. I've got him at 20 right now. If it's non PPR, he's gonna be closer to 12. Can't help myself. I think he's really good.

Speaker 1:
[16:26] Do you like him better in non PPR than full PPR? Oh, just running back.

Speaker 4:
[16:29] I get it, I get it. No, that's overall.

Speaker 1:
[16:33] No, I know.

Speaker 4:
[16:33] It's the running back thing. Because receiver's value, their value goes down, obviously, because the catches don't count.

Speaker 1:
[16:40] No, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 4:
[16:42] And I'm not like, I wouldn't freak out too much over Tyler Algier and James Connor being there. And they might take them off the field 35% of the time.

Speaker 5:
[16:54] But I wish they had...

Speaker 4:
[16:56] Love's gonna be there, dude.

Speaker 5:
[16:58] I wish they had more starting offensive linemen than they have starting running backs. Really nice.

Speaker 4:
[17:04] Their line is a problem.

Speaker 1:
[17:06] Right, and that was part of the reason why I didn't think the question of Price being better than Love was so outrageous. I mean, we've seen a guy in Ash and Gentie go to a team with a terrible offensive line and have the same kind of profile that you look at with Love and Gentie. I mentioned this last week, I think, where they both destroyed bad competition and struggled against good competition in their last year in college. And it was a rough year for him, for Gentie. I think it was RB 16 per game. So, but yeah, all right. So Dave's got him in round two, 20th overall. Heath, where would you have Jeremiyah Love right now?

Speaker 5:
[17:45] I was, I'm embarrassed to say, I was thinking round four.

Speaker 6:
[17:50] I'm close to that.

Speaker 4:
[17:51] I want to hear it. I want to hear it.

Speaker 6:
[17:52] I'm close to that too, Heath, sorry.

Speaker 4:
[17:53] Wow.

Speaker 5:
[17:54] No, I just, and it may be a little, maybe I'm overreacting a little bit to what we just saw from Ash Dundee. But I think he's awesome and was awesome last year also. And the situation was just so bad that it didn't really matter. And I think this could be almost worse because, well, I don't think Tyler Algier and James Connor and Trey Benson and whoever else is still on the roster really matter. I think they're probably going to have a bigger share of the touches than the backup guys in Las Vegas did last year. And so if it's less of a workhorse role on an equally bad offensive line and a run game, which this run game was putrid last year, I'm a little nervous. I'm not for the long term. I'm still very excited for Dynasty, but I'm a little nervous for this year.

Speaker 1:
[18:53] Yeah, and also Jeremiyah Love is a guy who has three games in his career with 20 or more targets, or 20 more carries, pardon me. They were all this year, this past year, whereas Ashton Gentey had over 700 carries, I think, in college. So he was used to a big workload. Love isn't, so if they want to kind of ease him in, they certainly have an excuse. All right, so, Jamey, you said you're close to round four?

Speaker 6:
[19:19] He's round three for me, but like middle of round three.

Speaker 1:
[19:23] So, all right, so that's like Bucky Irving or Jeremiyah Love?

Speaker 6:
[19:28] Love.

Speaker 1:
[19:29] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[19:30] I have Love one spot higher.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] Josh Jacobs or Love?

Speaker 6:
[19:35] Jacobs.

Speaker 5:
[19:36] Jacobs.

Speaker 4:
[19:37] Jacobs.

Speaker 1:
[19:38] Kyron Williams or Love?

Speaker 6:
[19:40] That's the cutoff for me. I have him right behind Kyron right now.

Speaker 5:
[19:43] Kyron for me.

Speaker 4:
[19:45] Love.

Speaker 1:
[19:47] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[19:49] I think, look, I'm hoping, you know, to sort of tie in the receivers as well. Like, I would love to see the Titans move on from Calvin Ridley just to get rid of that headache. I'd love to see the Cardinals obviously move on from one of these guys. Most likely it's going to be James Connor, if anything, maybe Trey Benson. But like, if they go in with those guys and the fact that they paid Algier and Connor's resume is still pretty impressive, it's not like Love is walking in to Genti's role. And that's the scary part. Is Genti walked in to that role last year. Forget about the environment, how bad it was. We thought, okay, he's going to get all this work, he's a special talent, he's going to be awesome. Take him to the first round, no hesitation, right? And mistake. We made the same mistake with Bijan Robinson. Hey, talk about Tyler Algier in his rookie season, right? Bijan Robinson, special talent, he's awesome. Here's Arthur Smith, let's ruin that guy. So I think you look at the situation with the Cardinals and hopefully, it's all Jeremiyah Love. Like Dave was saying, you know, like he's gonna be the guy. And I think that's gonna be the case to the optimistic view of it. But we know how NFL coaches are. If he's not protecting his quarterback that well, well, there's James Connor still being, you know, useful. He's not getting the job down the goal line. There's Tyler Algier still getting the opportunities that we saw even last year when Bijan was awesome. So I think Jeremiyah Love is worth taking as a borderline number one running back. I think he's obviously worth taking as a starting fantasy running back. He obviously has the ability to be a special talent and be the focal point of a Cardinals offense. Has a lot of really good players. You know, they're missing an offensive line that is, you know, substandard, let's just say, and clearly quarterback play is a little bit concerning, especially if of all things, you know, 2026 Jacobi Berset is a holdout. But they used to be the, you know, sticking point throughout the rest of this off season. And then we'll see what they do with the rest of the draft. And they're trying to find that guy. But it just feels like we've been burned by this top rookie running back each of the last two seasons. Now this guy walks into another bad situation in a crowded backfield. Just get one guy out of there. Let's just make it easier on all of us. Get one guy out of there. And again, Conor makes the most sense. I think you're just looking at it as, if you're excited about him as a talent, you're gonna be excited to draft him in those spot where Dave is talking about. I think if you're taking the cautious approach, again, just looking at what this rookie running, what the number one rookie running back has done or lack thereof each of the last two seasons, take a little bit more of where Heath and I are probably coming from.

Speaker 1:
[22:12] All right. We have been burned by the last two, Bijon Robinson and Ashton Genti. Genti got the workload that we wanted though. But before that, I mean, it felt like a layup for a guy to be drafted this early and then be really good in fantasy. Where was Todd Gurley? This is late round one, I think, right?

Speaker 4:
[22:33] No, I think he was...

Speaker 6:
[22:35] Seven.

Speaker 4:
[22:35] Top half of a round. Oh, you mean for fantasy?

Speaker 1:
[22:37] No, no, no, in the NFL draft.

Speaker 4:
[22:40] Why do I think he was 10th?

Speaker 1:
[22:41] Well, he was amazing as a rookie.

Speaker 6:
[22:43] Ezekiel Elliott. You say Gurley or was it Gurley?

Speaker 1:
[22:46] Gurley, Gurley. Ezek was amazing. Fornette, because he got 23.4 touches per game. What was he?

Speaker 4:
[22:53] He was the 10th overall pick in the 2015 draft.

Speaker 1:
[22:56] Okay, so top 10. So Gurley was great. Zeke was great. Fornette was, he wasn't great as a player, but he was the number eight running back for Jadarian.

Speaker 6:
[23:04] He was a great fantasy running back there.

Speaker 1:
[23:05] Yeah, Barkley was the man. So before that, any running back taken in the top 10 was a shoe. It was a surefire stud. And then the last two have burned us. Bijan because of workload, Gentie because of efficiency. And then yeah, I mean, that's like, what's the workload gonna be for Love? All right, let's move on to price though, so we can talk about the wide receivers as well. When Dave, I think you said the five, six turn over Jadarian Price.

Speaker 4:
[23:30] That's where I've got him right now.

Speaker 1:
[23:31] Jamey, how about you?

Speaker 6:
[23:33] Same spot.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] Heath?

Speaker 5:
[23:35] That sounds really good.

Speaker 1:
[23:36] Okay, so looking at the last draft we did, the post-free agency draft, last draft I was in anyway, DeAndre Swift was there, Chuba Hubbard was around there, Javante Williams was around there. Jamey, what do you think?

Speaker 6:
[23:50] Williams over Price, Swift over Price, Price over Chuba.

Speaker 4:
[23:54] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[23:57] Okay, Dave, you agree? Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[23:59] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:02] Who gets more work this year, Price or Swift?

Speaker 6:
[24:08] I would say the totality would be in favor of Swift, but it's close, just depends on when Charbonneur is coming back.

Speaker 4:
[24:12] Right. If Charbonneur really needs a lot of time, it's gonna be Price.

Speaker 5:
[24:18] So I have done a little bit of projections work and I have it at $271 for Price, $270 for Swift.

Speaker 1:
[24:26] Now, that hurts my feelings, because you were obviously doing that while I was speaking.

Speaker 5:
[24:31] While you were what?

Speaker 1:
[24:32] Speaking. Just now, you were doing the projection work.

Speaker 5:
[24:36] No, no, I was doing it during the drift.

Speaker 6:
[24:38] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[24:40] You said it was hard to do a projection, so I thought you did it in the last 10 minutes.

Speaker 5:
[24:43] I was doing it in the 17 minutes from when you texted, I'm going into the room and when you actually showed up on the stream.

Speaker 1:
[24:50] Let me just ask you a hypothetical, just so I get to know how you feel about Price. If Zach Charbonneur were out for the year, where would you take Jadarian Price?

Speaker 6:
[25:03] Four or five turn.

Speaker 5:
[25:04] Rob is going to say very close to Jeremiyah Love.

Speaker 1:
[25:10] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[25:12] I would consider putting them ahead of some of the running backs that we just got done talking about, Javante, Swift.

Speaker 6:
[25:17] Swift for sure.

Speaker 4:
[25:18] Yeah. That's the middle of round four.

Speaker 1:
[25:23] Okay. Well, that's a silly hypothetical because I don't think that's going to be the case.

Speaker 4:
[25:27] But everything that we're talking about on the show is a silly hypothetical. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] Two more nights of the NFL draft for things to change. Was there a destination that you did not like for fantasy tonight for one of the skill position players?

Speaker 6:
[25:41] I loved the Carnells.

Speaker 5:
[25:42] Jeremiah Love.

Speaker 6:
[25:45] Sadiq is the worst one ever.

Speaker 5:
[25:47] Yes. That was also awful.

Speaker 4:
[25:49] I liked it before they drafted Cooper.

Speaker 5:
[25:53] Oh man.

Speaker 1:
[25:54] All you people with Mason Taylor and your dynasty league. It's a bad night for him, I guess.

Speaker 5:
[26:00] Maybe. Remember when Elijah Arroyo killed AJ Barner? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:09] All right. Sadiq, going to the Jets who also took Omar Cooper Jr. Did we really not like Jeremiyah Love that much?

Speaker 6:
[26:21] It's just, again, you're looking at a bad team with a crowded backfield right now. We said this. I think when we talked about our favorite destinations for him, it wasn't the Cardinals, it might have been the Titans. For me, it was the commanders. I wanted to see him on a spot where he can just run away with everything and have at least positive quarterback play. This is not ideal. He's still going to be fine. Like he said, long-term, you got to figure that the Cardinals, if they're as bad as they potentially can be and they could be bad, they get one of the top tier quarterbacks next year and then they have young stud in the backfield, hopefully potential future star quarterback and still a really good receiving core. So I think again, like Dave mentioned, the chat's been great tonight. J-Rob Crete, it'll be fine. Yes, it'll absolutely be fine. Arizona is going to be fine, but it's just not perfect. We want it perfect. None of these situations are obviously perfect, but it just feels like when you started to hear Cardinals third, I don't want to see that. I don't want to see them take love trade out of that spot, let somebody else go get them, and here we are.

Speaker 4:
[27:34] I mean, Price's spot is pretty perfect. Right.

Speaker 6:
[27:38] Right.

Speaker 1:
[27:39] Yeah. I think last year we had a buka going to the Bucs. We didn't love that. I know he ended up being good, but there were a lot of injuries that contributed to that. I don't really think we have that with the wide receivers at least. Tyson going to the Saints is interesting. There is obviously Olavi there, but you've got Tate to the Titans, you got Tyson to the Saints, you've got the next guy. Then you have Sadiq to the Jets. We waited a while until we got our next receiver, Makai Lemon to the Eagles. We've already heard different arguments for whether that's a good destination or a bad destination. Jami likes it a lot. We're obviously assuming AJ Brown is going to be gone from the Eagles. You got KC Concepcion to the Browns. That's an interesting one. People really like him. He went 24th overall. This is an A-plus grade from Mike Renner on CBS sports.com. Concepcion was the best separator in the entire draft class, is what Mike Renner said about him. But, you know, it's the Browns.

Speaker 6:
[28:38] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:39] And you've got Omar Cooper Jr. I mean, I guess I don't really love this for Cooper, right? This is not a great one with Wilson.

Speaker 6:
[28:48] Again, this year, no, but Jets as bad as they are. They still have three picks in the first round next year.

Speaker 1:
[28:53] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How about who is the biggest? You know what, actually, I was going to ask you about NFL veterans, but let's not do that. Let's talk more about the rookies. What's that?

Speaker 6:
[29:04] Without a doubt, Heath.

Speaker 5:
[29:05] Tony Pollard.

Speaker 4:
[29:06] What about Scadaboo?

Speaker 6:
[29:09] Number two.

Speaker 1:
[29:11] Winners?

Speaker 4:
[29:11] I put Scadaboo out of Pollard.

Speaker 6:
[29:13] And Jacori Krosky-Merritt, number three.

Speaker 4:
[29:16] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[29:18] Those were the winners, by the way. I don't think you actually said that. We just gave the answers anyway.

Speaker 6:
[29:24] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:25] And what was I going to say? I was wondering if Devontae Smith was a winner or a loser or what. I think at the very least, we have pretty clear evidence that AJ Brown is going to get traded. And Devontae Smith has been so good without AJ Brown. There haven't been that many games without AJ Brown. But let's see, three games that he's played with AJ Brown, without AJ Brown, the last three seasons. Ten targets, ten targets, nine targets for Devontae Smith. That's actually the last two seasons, but that's been it. And he's been great, like he's been great when he's played without Dallas Goddard. He's played 17 games without Dallas Goddard, but with AJ Brown, and he's averaged a good enough average to be a top 12 wide receiver. So 17.1 PPR fantasy points per game. Anyway, that's Devontae Smith. But back to the rookies. All right, let's rank the wide receivers then. Let's go, we got again, let me just pull it up, make sure I don't miss anything. We got Carnell Tate to the Titans. Just gonna sort by wide receiver. Our draft tracker is very cool. It has a grade for every player. You can sort by position, you can sort by team. Carnell Tate to the Titans, fourth overall. Jordyn Tyson, eighth overall to the Saints. Makai Lemon, 20th overall to the Eagles. KC Concepcion, 24th overall to the Browns. And Omar Cooper Jr, 30th overall to the Jets. Can we put Cooper last? Everybody agree on that?

Speaker 5:
[30:46] Yes, yep.

Speaker 1:
[30:47] This is a 2026 conversation, by the way, not Dynasty. All right, let's rank the top four then. Tate, Tyson, Lemon, Concepcion. Heath, you go first.

Speaker 5:
[30:56] Tate, Tyson, Lemon, Concepcion.

Speaker 1:
[30:58] Dave.

Speaker 4:
[31:00] Tate, Tyson. Concepcion, Lemon.

Speaker 6:
[31:08] Tate, Tyson, Concepcion. Lemon, Concepcion.

Speaker 1:
[31:13] Lemon, Tate, Tyson, Concepcion. All right, let's let's talk about Carnell Tate and our expectations for him with Tennessee. Dave, you can start.

Speaker 4:
[31:26] He's an awesome pass catcher. You start with that good size, big hands, great hands, big catch radius catches anything near him. He's not like Malik neighbors stylistically. Neighbors, you know who's closer to neighbors, at least in terms of speed is Love, which is part of the reason why I'm so bullish on Love, is because I just think that that's a differentiator that'll help him out, but I digress. Tate should still see in the neighborhood of seven targets per game. I think he'll lead all rookies in targets per game. And Cam Ward's no slouch. I do agree that having Wondale there is going to stink, but very, very clear path for Tate to be either first or second in terms of targets, should be right up there, if not a little bit behind Wondale, but with better efficiency. And maybe even he finds his way into the end zone five or six times on top of it.

Speaker 5:
[32:20] I think it's as simple as like if Cam Ward makes the year two leap and is good, Carnell Tate could be almost anything.

Speaker 1:
[32:30] It could be really good. This is right.

Speaker 5:
[32:32] This could be this could be just the home run of all home runs. But we also don't know if Cam Ward is going to be good. And there's a risk that the Brian Dable offense has too many Wondale Robinson targets in it.

Speaker 1:
[32:46] Jamey, how do you feel about Jordyn Tyson to the Saints eighth overall?

Speaker 6:
[32:50] It's a huge opportunity. You know, I mean, we talked about this. The guys after Chris Olave, clearly not inspiring. And look, if Jordyn Tyson stays healthy, that's going to be the knock on him, you know, until he proves otherwise. But clearly had a great pre-draft work out, clearly, you know, inspired a lot of people, you know, in the NFL draft world that, you know, I didn't know if he was going to go eight. I think a lot of people thought 10 to the Giants. But here we are, and we know the Saints had a need. And so it's a great scenario for him if Tyler Shuck takes that year to jump, and Olavi, who's had a hard time staying healthy himself. I mean, if Olavi ever misses any time, but we've seen it with Olavi, outplayed two years ago by Rashid Shahid, you know. So it's not unlike this guy can't come in and automatically be the number one guy. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think we'll still see him be the number two guy, maybe third if, you know, Joanne Johnson still has a significant role. But, you know, you're talking about a Kellanmore offense. Tyler Shuck looked really good the second half of the season. It's a big opportunity for him to, you know, be that second guy. So wouldn't shock me if Tyson's the best of this bunch, just based on, you know, Shuck continuing to mature. And, you know, Kellanmore's offense allowing him to flourish.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Since the 2014 NFL draft, that was one of the best NFL drafts ever for wide receivers. Not necessarily the guys that went, or the first one was Sammy Watkins. It was good, but the rest of the class was insane. Since then, so that's 12 years before, you know, going into tonight, there were 16 wide receivers drafted in the top 10. And only five of them finished top 24 per game. So five out of 16 wide receivers in the last 12 drafts who were drafted top 10, finished top 24 per game in Fantasy. And those five were Mike Evans, Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Malik Neighbors, and believe it or not, Tedarol McMillan, who was 23rd in a bad year for wide receivers. So, you know, we wrote up little articles about these guys, these skill position players. I wrote the, only one I wrote was on Tyson going to the Saints, and I kind of felt like because Olave is there, because I'm a little concerned about Shuck going the Bow-Nix direction. I feel like he's going to have to be a really special player to be really good for Fantasy this year. You know, I just don't think he's not going to dominate targets like McMillan did. I think he's going to have to really surprise us like, like neighbors did or something like that, too. That's going to be his path. He's just going to have to be an awesome player. Heath.

Speaker 5:
[35:21] I yeah, I think that's probably true. The one thing I would say that works in his advantage is like how one more offense if Tyler Schuck doesn't go backwards and is maybe even a little bit better, like they only threw 13% of their passes to running backs last year, close to 60% for wide receivers. And I project them with their almost 600 passes this year. So there could be an opportunity for Olavi to maybe be at 150 targets, and there's still 110 or 120 for Jordyn Tyson.

Speaker 1:
[35:52] Yes, actually in seven seasons as a offensive coordinator or a head coach, Kellen Moore has produced 10 top 30 wide receivers per game. He's had multiple years with two top 20 wide receivers per game. He's been really, really good for wide receivers. All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about Makai Lemon, and KC Concepcion to Cleveland, and Omar Cooper Jr to the Jets. We'll give you rounds for all of these guys. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1:
[37:41] Well, we heard Jamie talk about Makai Lemon and he's really excited about him. Right now he's his number one rookie wide receiver for 2026. Dave, how do you feel about Lemon to the Eagles?

Speaker 4:
[37:54] I don't love it as much as Jamie. I think that he's got a shot to be the number two target getter there. He probably will be thinking it through a little bit, but Heath nailed it. This isn't a team that's going to throw a ton. Even if their defense takes a step back this year, I still don't think the MO is going to be put the ball in Jalen Hurts hands and let him throw to win. I think they almost go back to Saquon a little bit more this year. And Philadelphia will look a lot like the Philadelphia team that we knew before, which is one that doesn't throw a lot. And so I'm worried about the volume.

Speaker 5:
[38:31] Did you think Dave, watching Lemon, was he more successful over the middle of the field or on the outside?

Speaker 4:
[38:38] He was successful everywhere, but definitely over the middle of the field. He's great for the scheme that they're about to run. If they're going to do more West Coast stuff and he's going to attack the middle of the field, he's a really good route runner. He's got good enough size. He's thicker than Devontae. He's not necessarily taller, maybe a little bit taller. But he's going to be a good complimentary weapon. I like the fit for the Eagles. I don't know if I love the fit for Fantasy, at least for this year. That will change if Dallas Goddard somehow wins Powerball, goes to Hawaii, doesn't come back. Now it's a clear path for Lemon to be the number two target getter. On top of that, just more volume for both him and Devontae Smith.

Speaker 1:
[39:26] Goddard had 82 targets in 15 games. So I think Lemon should get over, I would think over 100 targets. But to Heath's point, Jalen Hurts has a reputation of not being so good over the middle of the field. So I do think people will-

Speaker 5:
[39:40] I don't even know if it's not being so good, it's not being so willing.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] Right.

Speaker 5:
[39:44] Like he just does not like-

Speaker 4:
[39:45] This is a nod to that for sure.

Speaker 1:
[39:47] I mean, this is not the catch radius that AJ. Brown has. It's a very different receiving corps of Devontae Smith and Makai Lemon. Two smaller guys than AJ. Brown for sure. All right. Then KC Concepcion to Cleveland where he- I mean, is it easy to say? Well, probably not. Easy to say he'll be the number one target getter, Mr. Fanning over everyone, Heath?

Speaker 5:
[40:12] Well, I think it's hilarious that the team that all year long struggled with drops drafted the elite separator that struggles with drops. He will- has a great mentor in Jerry Judy. They're kind of the same guy. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he will lead the team in targets. I think he's certainly one of the candidates, and there's a little bit of what I said about Tate that's true about Concepcion. Like it's all there for him. If they could have a decent passing game, it's just harder to believe that Deshaun Watson or Shadour is going to be decent next year than it is Cam Ward.

Speaker 1:
[40:54] Okay. Deshaun Watson, in four seasons with Houston, had the third best passer rating in the NFL, or fourth best maybe.

Speaker 6:
[41:03] That guy's long gone, man.

Speaker 1:
[41:04] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[41:04] Yeah, right.

Speaker 5:
[41:05] I was gonna say, how long ago was that? Was KC Concepcion in middle school then?

Speaker 1:
[41:09] In three seasons with Cleveland, he's had the third worst. He's one of the worst quarterbacks in the world. Shadr Sanders, actually, I think he averaged about the same yards per attempt as Jackson Dart and much better than Cam Ward. Yards per attempt as a rookie is not gonna tell you that much, but for what it's worth, his biggest issue was just the interceptions. So that's...

Speaker 4:
[41:32] His completion rate was under 60%.

Speaker 1:
[41:35] That's not good either, but if you throw interceptions...

Speaker 5:
[41:40] Some of both the interceptions and the completion percentage were the fact that they could not catch the football. Like, do you remember Joe Flacco in that offense last year versus Joe Flacco playing for the Bengals?

Speaker 1:
[41:51] Yeah. I'm just saying if you count interceptions as completions, I bet his completion percentage wouldn't be that bad. Someone caught it. Jamie, anything to say about Concepcion?

Speaker 6:
[42:03] Just a terrible destination right now. Again, another team that hopefully has a chance to improve its quarterback situation in 2027. Then we see the best of this. But again, you're looking at a receiving core that's terrible. Jerry Judy was as bad as anybody could be in the NFL for what the expectations were in 2025. So hopefully, unless he has a resurgence like we saw in 2024, then you're looking at Concepcion and Harold Fanon as the building blocks of his passing offense. And Fanon was awesome at the end of the season when he was getting featured, and I hope that's still the case. But now there's a little bit more of a guy that has some target opportunities away. I think Concepcion, to me, is behind the other three guys and should easily be, at least right now, we'll see what happens with the rest of the draft. But at best, would be fourth.

Speaker 1:
[42:55] All right, and then Heath, Omar Cooper Jr. going to the Jets.

Speaker 5:
[43:00] Pretty gross, but it's pretty great for Gino. Like I was thinking in a couple of dynasty leagues, I might see if I could trade a second round pick for Gino. He's got a good set of weapons around him now. I don't think you're going to see Omar Cooper drafted in the first 10 rounds of a redraft draft.

Speaker 1:
[43:21] All right, let's go through when we're drafting these guys. Give me a round in a 12-team PPR league for Carnell Tate.

Speaker 5:
[43:27] Six.

Speaker 6:
[43:28] Six.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] I've got them in seven.

Speaker 1:
[43:33] Okay, how about Jordyn Tyson?

Speaker 6:
[43:37] Seven.

Speaker 1:
[43:39] Eight.

Speaker 5:
[43:40] Seven.

Speaker 1:
[43:42] Okay, Makai Lemon?

Speaker 6:
[43:45] Six, just ahead of the other two. Eight.

Speaker 4:
[43:49] Eight, nine, turn.

Speaker 1:
[43:52] Okay, six, eight, nine. How about KC Concepcion?

Speaker 6:
[43:58] Nine. Ten.

Speaker 4:
[44:03] I might regret this one. Put this in pencil, Adam. Round eight in full PPR.

Speaker 1:
[44:09] Do you think I have a pencil anywhere near me?

Speaker 4:
[44:12] You might have a mechanical pencil.

Speaker 5:
[44:14] I kind of do.

Speaker 1:
[44:16] I do have a pencil?

Speaker 5:
[44:18] I feel like you should.

Speaker 1:
[44:19] I mean, my kids, you know, Andrew does his homework with pencils.

Speaker 4:
[44:22] You probably have crayons.

Speaker 1:
[44:24] Well, we do homework with the pencils.

Speaker 4:
[44:27] I think there's a chance Concepcion leads all rookie receivers and targets. That doesn't mean he's going to be efficient with them. But after a fan and what do they really have? And they can scheme him up in a bunch of different ways. Yeah, his drop rate isn't going to be great. He'll probably drop 5% of his targets. That sucks. But if he's getting seven plus targets per game, because the Browns are either going to be trailing or competitive in their games. They've done a nice job rebuilding their offensive line. Maybe Concepcion will be okay. Plus he is the type of receiver when he does catch the football. And we can't really make it like his hands suck because he's had some bad drops. The problem with him is that he jumps for the ball, like every single time. And that's not a good thing. He's got to keep his feet on the ground. But when he does catch the ball, he does have the speed and the quickness to take it to the house. There will be explosive plays. I'm good with him in round eight as a bench receiver, full PPR.

Speaker 1:
[45:22] Okay. So that's KC Concepcion. And then finally Omar Cooper Jr. What round? 12.

Speaker 4:
[45:31] I'm not sure I'm drafting him.

Speaker 1:
[45:33] Okay. So to recap, Carnell Tate, round six or seven, Jordyn Tyson, round seven or eight, Makai Lemon, anywhere from round six to the eight, nine turn, Concepcion, round eight through 10, Omar Cooper Jr, borderline draftable. I did have this note just to give you some references. Every year, you know, we get excited about anybody being drafted into the first round. What else are we gonna do this time of year? So, I was gonna look at wide receivers drafted between 20 and 32 in the first round over the last five seasons, but Abouka was 19th, so I'll go wide receivers drafted from 19 to the end of the first round. 12 wide receivers have been drafted 19th or later in the last five NFL drafts. Only three of them averaged more than 11 and a half PPR fantasy points per game as rookies. Five of them averaged 11 or more. But the three guys who had really good rookie seasons being drafted 19th or later in the first round in the last five years were Brian Thomas Jr, Zay Flowers and Jordyn Addison. Yeah, Flowers and Addison were good. They didn't win you the league or anything. But Thomas Jr is the only one who's come out of that range in the last at least five years, probably longer and been like a league winner for what that's worth. Abouka averaged, I think, 11.5 PPR fantasy points per game. Xavier Worthy was at 11. But we've had guys like Matthew Golden, Xavier Worthy, Ricky Pearsall, Xavier LeGette, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Quentin Johnston, Zay Flowers, Jordyn Addison, Kaderius, Tony, Rashad Bateman. All right, tight end, Kenyon Sadiq to the Jets. Jamey, is he worth drafting?

Speaker 6:
[47:12] Second tight end with Upside, sure. I mean, you know, you're hopeful that his talent allows him the opportunity to produce, but I think if anybody was looking at him and hoping for the chance to draft him as a starter, this was not the destination you wanted to see him go to. So it's, again, long-term, hopefully great spot for him. I think we'll see, you know, hopefully a scenario where he and Mason Taylor can coexist. Sadiq, clearly the draft capital suggests that he should be on the field more and playing a lot, getting opportunities. But you know, you're looking at Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, you know, Sadiq, that's the trio of past gassers that the Jets are going to build around. I don't think the quarterback that they're going to be having success with is on the roster, you know, based on Geno Smith and where he's at in his career. So to fully evaluate him, we'll probably have to see what happens at the end of the season going into next year and what their draft stock will be. But I think for this year, redraft, you know, see what happens early in the season, pick him up off the way more.

Speaker 1:
[48:08] Okay. Omar Cooper Jr., by the way, he didn't do anything. Did he play four years? I think he played four years, right? He didn't really do much for the first three years of his career. He had a great fourth year.

Speaker 4:
[48:20] He wasn't terrible in 2024.

Speaker 1:
[48:24] Yeah, but he had a big change.

Speaker 4:
[48:26] He didn't do anything as a freshman, barely played as a sophomore, played a lot more as a junior, scored seven touchdowns. He had a completely different role.

Speaker 1:
[48:33] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[48:34] And then last year, he was pretty much a slot receiver for the Hoosiers and went bonkers.

Speaker 1:
[48:39] That's what I wanted to bring up. He became a slot receiver, Omar Cooper Jr. He had a much, much lower ADOT than he had the previous year. And he had a great season with Fernando Mendoza. So I just wonder how that fits in. Garrett Wilson will play outside, Cooper in the slot. Does that hurt? Kenyon Sadiq, how many good tight ends are there that have good slot receiver? I don't know. A lot of things going on.

Speaker 6:
[48:59] You know, it could be fun if it happens, if the Jets would trade Mason Taylor to the Dolphins.

Speaker 5:
[49:04] Oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 1:
[49:07] A little homecoming. Okay. We haven't talked about the number one pick. It's the second year in a row where the number one pick feels like, no one really cares that much. But Fernando Mendoza is the number one. And then fun, surprising, stupid. Ty Simpson to the Rams. You know, people call the Rams draft trades picks like stupid all the time. They always seem to know what they're doing, right? But Dave, give me your thoughts on the quarterbacks. Mendoza number one overall, Ty Simpson 13th overall to the Rams.

Speaker 4:
[49:42] You're not going to draft either of these guys in redraft leagues. Mendoza, maybe you'll pick up off the waiver wire. It's assuming it's a 1QB league. Superflex 2QB, you're definitely drafting Mendoza, but you're going to be waiting a long time for him to make an impact for your fantasy squad. I think Mendoza is a good prospect, dude. He's really accurate when he's not pressured. It's kind of a problem behind that Raiders offensive line. It has gotten better, but there's still going to be pressure more than your typical NFL team. He'll see a lot of it. He's not going to play the first half of the year, potentially. Could be longer, could be shorter. And the receiving corps isn't that great. It's Bowers and Jalen Naylor, who's kind of an interesting sleeper, I guess.

Speaker 5:
[50:26] Don't disrespect Trey Tucker.

Speaker 4:
[50:28] Yeah, I'm disrespecting Trey Tucker. He's not going to help us.

Speaker 1:
[50:32] Denzel Boston is available right now.

Speaker 4:
[50:36] I mocked him to the Raiders, but I thought they'd trade in to round one to do it. Maybe they can get him in round two. That would be cool. That would help out Mendoza.

Speaker 6:
[50:44] Adam just saw his Shepard tweet with Denzel Boston as the first name on the list.

Speaker 1:
[50:49] I didn't see anything. What are you talking about? Well, you think he takes a genius to think that the-

Speaker 6:
[50:54] Isn't it funny that that's the first name that he has on the list and that's the first name you say?

Speaker 1:
[50:58] I swear I am not looking at any Adam Shepard tweets. The Raiders have what, the fourth pick of the round? Third pick?

Speaker 4:
[51:05] Fourth.

Speaker 6:
[51:07] It'd be a good selection for them, 100%.

Speaker 1:
[51:09] Yeah, but the Niners could use them, the Bills could use them. So the Raiders might have to trade up to get Boston.

Speaker 4:
[51:16] Or they can just get a different receiver. There's a bunch of good receivers, not great receivers that they could get. Or they can draft some linemen.

Speaker 5:
[51:24] You know what they're going to do.

Speaker 4:
[51:26] What are they going to do?

Speaker 5:
[51:27] Elijah Sirot.

Speaker 4:
[51:29] Yeah, but they don't have to do that in round two. I don't think. That'd be cool though to have that reunion.

Speaker 1:
[51:35] Yeah, so what do we think, Heath, about Ty Simpson in Dynasty?

Speaker 5:
[51:45] What I wrote was that if you're in a Superflex Dynasty League and there's a quarterback that goes in round one and it was already a weak rookie class, that guy is going to be a first round pick and rookie dress. So I talked to several people throughout the last month on FFT Dynasty and it seemed like the consensus kind of was that people liked this more for Simpsons Dynasty value than being drafted to Arizona or Cleveland or the Jets at the end of round one and maybe being forced into a bad situation. I think he's a number three quarterback. I think I had him like 31 in my Dynasty rankings. He's probably going to be drafted somewhere between pick eight and pick 11 or 12 in Superflex rookie drafts. Listen, if you're a guy that maybe needed to sit for a little while and could be a good game manager and you land with Sean McVey and sit behind Matthew Stafford, that seems like pretty decent opportunity to learn.

Speaker 6:
[52:45] It's a great opportunity for him. I think the thing you got to think about when you're drafting him is, is this it for Stafford or does this get played out for another couple of seasons because they're still in a good spot, they're still winning, he's still having fun, all those things. He's coming off of MVP season in his late 30s. It's not unprecedented for him to continue to play well, especially what we've seen from Brady and Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, sliding scale on obviously all those guys. But I think in terms of what Simpson will eventually inherit, that's the thing you're hoping for. It just feels just so, and I know they basically used their first round pick on McDuffie, their second first round pick on McDuffie when they made the trade with the Chiefs. So they got their player for the president to help their officer, and they got their player for the future. I just would have liked to see them trade down if they were going to make this move. That's the only reason I don't like it is Simpson at 13 just feels like a reach.

Speaker 1:
[53:41] Okay. Speaking of trading down, the Bills traded down what, three times in the end of the draft, and they did not make a pick in the first round. That's kind of all I got on the rookies.

Speaker 6:
[53:54] How do you feel about the Giants? They had a good night.

Speaker 1:
[53:56] I think they had a great night. I really didn't want them to take Sonny Stiles. I just wasn't a Sonny Stiles guy, but I'm pretty happy about Arville Reese. Arville Reese is going to play some linebacker, like outside linebacker, but not necessarily edge rusher. And Francisco, Francis Maui-Noah is going to play guard for them. So it's a little bit risky when you're-

Speaker 5:
[54:17] Did you draft an edge to not play edge and a tackle to not play tackle?

Speaker 1:
[54:20] That's what I was saying. It's a little risky moving these guys to different positions, but Reese has played different positions.

Speaker 5:
[54:29] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[54:29] I hope he's not Isaiah Simmons. Maui-Noah played every single snap, I believe, at right tackle. He said he played guard a little bit in practice. But no, the Giants did well. And Scadaboo, not only did Scadaboo not get Jordyn Love, the Giants might have a good- Jeremiyah Love, pardon me. Giants might have a good offensive line. Now they were missing a right guard and they just got one. He played tackle, but he looks like a guard. So I liked it for the Giants. I thought it was great. Who else did well?

Speaker 6:
[55:02] Heath, how do you feel about the Chiefs?

Speaker 1:
[55:03] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[55:05] You know, if they just drafted the next $100 million corner in four years, then I think it was a good night. But if they didn't, then they probably overpaid.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] They took Mencer DeLane out of LSU Cornerback. They traded up from nine to six.

Speaker 5:
[55:26] I kind of feel like with what Spags has done with Corners over the last decade, if he says this guy is worth this, then you just trust that.

Speaker 1:
[55:37] Someone said that Styles was my guy. I originally was like, get Styles and Downs, but then I watched some Styles, just some stuff on YouTube, and I just didn't see it. I just don't see it with him.

Speaker 5:
[55:49] Well, and you've always been so good at recognizing Styles.

Speaker 1:
[55:55] Downs, on the other hand, is someone I really wanted them to get. So kudos to the Cowboys. So like the Dolphins did something really risky. The Dolphins could have definitely taken Caleb Downs at 11, but they trade back one spot. The Cowboys move up and take Downs, and the Dolphins take Caden Proctor, who's enormous. And I don't think, sometimes he's enormous, but I don't think there's been a tackle that weighs more than 350 pounds. I don't know what the stat is, but basically Caden Proctor's at the weight where tackles are not good. And that pick scares me a little bit. I don't know if there was any pick that stood out to you guys.

Speaker 6:
[56:35] Ruben Bane.

Speaker 1:
[56:37] Good or bad?

Speaker 6:
[56:38] Great for the bucks.

Speaker 1:
[56:40] Yes. He could be terrible though. I mean, he could be, he could be, he's not athletic and he has short arms. He's not athletic compared to most defensive. I love him. He's a violent monster. But there are concerns. That's why otherwise he would have been a top five pick. Renner loved the pick. We gave it an A plus. We got the Lions taking an offensive tackle. We didn't talk about the offensive linemen. So I guess we can finish with that. Sorry. Okay. So first one off the board was ninth, Spencer Fanno going to Cleveland, Utah, offensive tackle. Then the Giants took Maui Noah at 10th. He'll play guard. The Dolphins took Caden Proctor. He can play guard or tackle. That was 12th. The Ravens, remember they lost their center. So they took an interior offensive lineman. They could guard Venga, Ioane. Ioane, excuse me. And then the Lions took Blake Miller, 17th offensive tackle. The Panthers took Monro Freeling, Georgia offensive tackle, who doesn't need to start right away, according to Mike Renner. The Steelers were all ready to take Makai Lemon. And then they took a guy who's a little green, Max Ihanichor.

Speaker 4:
[57:59] Ihanichor, Ihanichor, Ihanichor, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:04] He's only played football for five years. And then Georgia Tech offensive lineman, Keelan Rutledge goes to Houston. He traded up to get him. He's an interior offensive lineman and the Patriots at 28th overall took Caleb Lomu out of Utah an offensive tackle. Do you guys think this changes anything for?

Speaker 5:
[58:24] The Browns offensive line isn't quite as terrible.

Speaker 4:
[58:28] Might actually be good.

Speaker 1:
[58:32] Two offensive linemen from Utah in the first round. I'm gonna say it's the first time that's ever happened. No idea, but I'm just gonna say it.

Speaker 4:
[58:39] David Bailey looked terrible.

Speaker 1:
[58:41] Did they?

Speaker 4:
[58:42] Last season. Oh gosh, it's the first film I watched of Bailey and he looked pedestrian.

Speaker 1:
[58:49] I feel like the Jets.

Speaker 4:
[58:50] I watched it and I asked somebody, is this really like, is this who he is? Cause that guy sucked. And then I watched other film of Bailey and he was awesome.

Speaker 1:
[59:00] I feel like the Jets had a bad draft. I don't know.

Speaker 6:
[59:04] I mean, look, if you like Bailey, you're gonna be happy about it. If you don't, you would have liked to see them take Reese. And the Sadiq pick was a little bit of a strange selection. And obviously Cooper, you know, he could be good, but clearly a lot of people are skeptical of it. It's just, you know, it's like that Raiders draft when they had three first round picks too. It's like, you know, you wanted to see them come away with studs and it was like, what?

Speaker 1:
[59:26] Oh, Mike in our chat says, Jets did great.

Speaker 6:
[59:30] I like Bailey's. I don't have a problem with that pick. It's the other two that are a little.

Speaker 5:
[59:34] I thought the Browns had a really good night.

Speaker 1:
[59:38] They got an offensive lineman and a wide receiver.

Speaker 5:
[59:41] They picked up significant draft capital to move back and probably take the guy they wanted to take a six anyway.

Speaker 1:
[59:47] People love Concepcion. So he goes 24th. It was a good night for Shador Sanders.

Speaker 5:
[59:54] Great night for Shador Sanders.

Speaker 6:
[59:57] Until next year's draft.

Speaker 1:
[60:00] All right. Well, I was going to talk about NFL veterans that won and lost, but why don't we save that till later in the week, especially the Saturday show. We'll have plenty of, we'll have...

Speaker 6:
[60:11] Did we cover that already?

Speaker 5:
[60:12] Not really. We did the winners.

Speaker 1:
[60:13] We said, we ran through them. We didn't really expand, we can expand. And obviously there'll be very consequential picks on Friday. So we'll talk to you after rounds two and three. Thanks a lot for watching and listening. Enjoy your Friday, everybody. We'll talk to you soon on Fantasy Football Today.

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