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According to the report, according to Ian Rappaport, the Cowboys extended an olive branch to agent David Mulligeta of Athletes First. Jerry and Stephen Jones called Mulligeta with both on the phone to discuss the franchise tag, why receiver Pickens future. The call was professional and cordial. I'm just trying to figure out why wouldn't it be? You said, this is what Jerry said. Jerry said, whoever Mulligeta represented moving forward, it would have no bearing on what transpired with Michael Parthen. So why would you need to call and extend the olive branch if you are true a man of your word? Take off, Ocho. Did Ocho froze? Ocho is frozen right now. For me, I don't understand why Stephen Jones needed to let the cat out the bag, says we have no intentions on working on a long-term deal. Basically, saying George Pickens is going to play on the franchise tag at least this year. Remember, Chad, they also have another franchise tag, so if they deem necessary, they can franchise them again next year. Now, they did franchise Dak twice, Dak got it done, got his long-term deal done during the second franchise tag. Also, D. Lawd, Demarcus Lawrence, he had a franchise tag for the second time and they got a long-term deal done. So that doesn't mean that they would. It also doesn't mean that they're not going to trade him. I don't know what's going to happen, but I just don't understand why Stephen Jones felt he needed to put that caveat out there. We have no intentions on signing George Figgins to a long-term deal this year. It made no sense to me. I get why basically probably Jerry and Stephen said, look, without him signing the tag, there's really nothing for us to talk about. So unless he signs the tag, then we can potentially talk about maybe trading him or signing a long-term deal. Ocho, I was saying, the caveat, what I didn't understand is why Stephen Jones needed to say, we don't have any intention of signing George Figgins to a long-term deal this year.

Speaker 2:
[09:05] Well, obviously, for those that are watching, you understand there's really no reason to come out and say anything like this. But the understanding to me is with having the common sense and the knowledge of an owner coming out and saying we have no reason to sign him to an extension, he's going to play on the franchise tag and just let me know, we have a chance of trading him away. We're letting teams know that if and when he signs his franchise tag, which he's done, reported by Adam Schefter, now we have opportunity to trade him away and get some pieces for him while the value was high. And Unc, I said it a long time ago, we talk about George Pickens staying with the Dallas Cowboys, right? And even though George Pickens and CD. Lam are good friends, they're good friends, they're hanging out together in the off season, I just don't see in any scenario where George Pickens gets the value that he deserves and overleaps in leapfrogs, that of George Pickens, I mean, that of CD. Lam, who is the number one wide receiver for that team. It just, it just, it's never happened in the history of the NFL, and I didn't see it happening there in Dallas. Now, I know Pickens deserves, I mean, he deserves a deal on, he deserves a deal, and there's no way in hell David Muller getting, gonna let him go out there on that goddamn franchise tag and bet on himself when most of his compadres have already been paid. We've seen what he can do. We saw flashing what he could do in Pittsburgh. We saw exactly what he could do when he's the number one guy here in Dallas. If you don't want to pay him, and you know CD. Lam is your number one receiver going forward, allow Pickens to see grace somewhere else. Like I said a long time ago, I said Browns, I said Raiders, and maybe even Buffalo. So those are my three teams. I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I doubt, I think George Pickens will be happy today before this night is over.

Speaker 1:
[10:56] Well, and I agree with you. All that could be true, Ocho. George, they could have quietly handled this behind the scenes. You didn't have to come out and say, because all you did was stir up something. All you did was make him up sad. So you mean to tell me there's nothing we can do? There's nothing really to talk about? You could have kept that to yourself. That didn't have to become public.

Speaker 2:
[11:16] Wait, they have to.

Speaker 1:
[11:17] So that's the situation. And I think the thing is this, go ahead.

Speaker 2:
[11:20] It's the Cowboys, Unc. It has to be public. Because whatever headlines are going on, we have to steal it. And that's what they do best. And they did exactly what they want to do. That was the plan all along. Okay, there's so much stuff in the news cycle, but it ain't us.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] Ocho, the pick is in. Hold on just a second. We'll get back. The jet's on the clock now. With the first pick, no surprise here. They, the Raiders select Fernando Mendoza with the first overall pick. I don't think that's any surprise there, Ocho. They would, they need a quarterback. They need a lot of things, but it all starts with the foundation and that's the quarterback. You get that guy, you can build around him. As long as you got a strong foundation, Ocho, I can erect any type of house that I want to and it will stand solid. But without that guy, I don't care what, I don't care where you build it at, it's structurally unsound and it's not going to be, it's not going to do what you need it to do. But the Raiders select Fernando Mendoza. He's a six foot four, 236 pound quarterback out of Indiana University. They won the national championship. He's the Heisman Trophy winner and they believe they have their franchise guy, the guy that they've been, the franchise quarterback, that they've been looking for for a long time. They thought they had it with Derek Carr. He played great for a while, but for whatever reason, him and Gruden just seemed to never mesh. I don't know why, Ocho, and maybe we can talk about that at another date and time. But the Raiders have their guy. What do you think about this selection? Do you like this pick?

Speaker 2:
[12:53] I love the pick. I love the fact that they're going to allow him to sit also. I love the fact that you got Fernando Mendoza, you're going to allow him to come in and you're going to allow him to develop. I'm hoping that's, you know, Mark Davis and the rest of that staff's intent. Obviously, you're bringing Kirk.

Speaker 1:
[13:07] Clint Kubiak's the head coach now.

Speaker 2:
[13:08] Yeah, okay, yeah, Clint Kubiak as well. But I'm hoping you bring him in, allow him to sit, allow him to watch, allow him to learn and become a sponge behind Kirk Cousins, who's a proven veteran quarterback. Maybe not in the playoffs, maybe not playoff success, but just being able to do what he needs to do and being able to have someone he can learn after. They need many more pieces. They need many more pieces. They need a receiver. They need a dog. You know exactly what I mean. We need someone that we can actually count on and other pieces obviously defensively. You want to also shore up that offensive line, but it's a great pick. I've been watching, I've seen Mandela play when he was down here in Miami, played at Columbus High School. He was a very good quarterback, very good quarterback. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for the Raiders. They're gonna be all right, they got a whole lot of hold of field, boy. They got a whole lot of hold of field. Don't allow this to be another draft cavity. That's the number one pick. Do right by your player, man.

Speaker 1:
[14:06] It's being reported that privately Mendoza had been working with Brian Greasy, who's very familiar. He played in the Gary Kubiak system. He played in this system. Kirk Cousins is very familiar with this system. This is the system that he grew up in in Washington. It's a very similar situation to what he had in Minnesota. So he's very, very familiar with this system. So he can offer some tutelage and some understanding to Fernandez of how this system, the reads in this system. I like this. I like this. He had a private workout in Bloomington. Typical install. So this, I like this. I like this. They have to get a quarterback. They had to. Ochocinco, they've been searching. They've been searching since 2000. They thought they had it with Jamarcus Russell. That didn't work out. And they've had a lot of guys since then. I thought Derrick Carr played well. He had moments. But like I said, I don't know why he and Gruden didn't mesh really well. They tried it with Geno Smith and that didn't work. So now, hopefully, they've got a guy that can take them for the next 10, 15 years and get them to where they need to be. Because everybody in that division, you got Patrick Mahomes, you got Bo Nicks, and you got Justin Herbert. You've got to be able to compete with those guys. You got to, your quarterback has to be able to stand across the field and go toe to toe with Mahomes, toe to toe with Nicks, toe to toe with Justin Herbert. They believe they found their guy, Ocho. Only time will tell. But like you said, they need some more pieces. But this is a great first start.

Speaker 2:
[15:42] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[15:43] We'll see. The Jets are now on the clock. The betters were really torn between Arville Reese and David Bailey. The guy, the big edge guy out of Texas Tech. We know Reese out of Ohio State, inside linebacker world, got crazy speed, got 4'4 speed. But hey, okay. The Jets selected David Bailey with the number two pick. The New York Jets select David Bailey, a six foot three, 251 pound out of Texas Tech. Premier Edge, you see the type of havoc that the Miles Garrets, the TJ. Watts, the Michael Parsons, the Brian Burns. If you're defense, you gotta be able to have a guy, Ocho, and say, son, you gotta go get it. I can't dial up nothing exotic. I ain't got nothing for you. I just want you to be you man. You go beat that man and go get the quarterback and drag his ass down. And they believe they have the guy in David Bailey. He tested out of his world. You look at his tape. You look at the way he played the game. He looked like a can't miss, but there's no such thing as a can't miss. But he damn looked good on the football field and he looked good at testing. I like when those two things mesh. Only time will tell again.

Speaker 2:
[17:00] And this is what it comes down to when it comes to watching a college player's film and you watch him test well. That's what we call an impact player. Now, there's no such thing as you can't miss. But based on what you have to go off of is your eye test and your goddamn film, you expect a draft player this goddamn high to come in and make an immediate impact right away. I'm sure he's probably going to be a day one starter. And that's a good look for the Jets because that's something they need, a premium rusher on the edge to make a goddamn difference.

Speaker 1:
[17:31] Yeah, when you take a guy this high, you guys that went this high, Miles Garrett went number one overall, a two-time defensive player of the year. Von Miller went in this very spot in 2011, an impact player, defensive rookie of the year. He was also a Super Bowl MVP and helped lead the Rams to another Super Bowl, over 130 plus sacks. So when you take a guy this high, he needs to be a game record. He needs to be a game changer. In three years from now, Ocho, we need to be talking about him, here's a guy that's making 50, $55 million annual value. That's what he needs to be in order for the Jets to get to where they need to be. He has to be that because you took him number two overall. Guys in the top five, they got to be Impact. They got to be day one Impact. This ain't no a year from now, two years from now Impact. I need you tomorrow to go bust ass. Julius Peppers was another one that went second overall to Carolina. Yeah, I like this pic. I thought, like I said, Arva Reece, you could see the suddenness watching him because you had to, we got an opportunity to watch a lot of their games because they're on TV a lot, because they're a really good team. And then you watch them at the combine. You see how fluid he is. He can swing his hips. He can drop. He's relentless on pursuit. He can chase down. Six foot four, 241 pounds. He can run like that. Now, they're going to try to put him in space, Ocho, because I don't want him having to take on guards, Quint Nelson and all those big time men and Donald Booker and all those guys.

Speaker 2:
[19:12] He better learn to fit. He better learn to fit. He better learn to fit.

Speaker 1:
[19:16] You got to share, Ocho. You got to share them.

Speaker 2:
[19:18] Because listen, every great player, as great as he tested, as great as he looked on film, there's always a weakness, Unc. There's always a weakness. So you want to make sure you don't expose your player, but find out what those weaknesses are. It makes sure you don't expose them. Now, most D.A.s, you-

Speaker 1:
[19:34] And try not to put him in that situation. And try not to put him in that situation.

Speaker 2:
[19:38] Please don't. Just make sure you play to his strengths.

Speaker 1:
[19:45] David Bailey transferred to Texas Tech after spending his first three seasons at Stanford. He tied for the FCS lead in sacks with 14.5, while adding 19.5 tackles for loss, and he had 81 pressures. He's reportedly benched 405 pounds, squatted 550, and ran 22.16 miles per hour.

Speaker 2:
[20:07] What did he bench?

Speaker 1:
[20:09] 405. I mean, look, listen, I've seen guys that wasn't weight really strong, but you couldn't move their ass on the football field. I've seen guys that go up there and do 225, 42, 43 times, bench 500 pounds. And guys have more of the damn sideline.

Speaker 2:
[20:46] Hey, that's funny.

Speaker 1:
[20:47] Just driving it.

Speaker 2:
[20:48] You got to be able to put the two together, though. You got to be able to put the strength in the football. I mean, strength in the ability to play football. You got to be able to put it together. Some people can't put it together at the same time.

Speaker 1:
[21:02] You look at a guy like Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald bench 500 pounds.

Speaker 2:
[21:07] And he plays like he bench 500 pounds.

Speaker 1:
[21:11] Exactly. Exactly. And that's what you want. You want that to mesh. You watch Aaron Donald college tape, and you watch his college tape, and you watch him at the combine, and you say, boy, the Rams got to steal.

Speaker 2:
[21:27] That's one of those situations, Unc, too. When you talk about you can't miss, most of the time, you never want to say you can't miss. But when you watch Aaron Donald, you can see everything. You see the foundation. You understand once you get ahold of that and you sharpen the tools he already has, this is what you get.

Speaker 1:
[21:43] Yes. Yes. You could see he could get skinny. He could bull you. Oh, he could wax on, wax off. He could rip. He could dip. I mean, man, he could stop. He was the total package. Three defensive players of the year, DPOY, Defensive Rookie of the Year, eight first team All-Pros, 10 Pro-Bows.

Speaker 2:
[22:06] That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[22:07] I think that says it all. What are we discussing? Wow, with the number three pick, the Arizona Cardinals select, Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame. Top five picks since Saquon Barkley went number two in 2018. Remember, that was the same year that Baker Mayfield went number one, Saquon went number two. But we see this kid, this kid was moving up. He kept moving up because he had home run speed, Ocho. You look at those long touchdown runs that he had against Notre Dame. And you saw a guy that could run with power. You saw last year, they had him in the backfield and he broke four, five, six tackles and got the ball in the end zone. I believe this is one of the reasons why the Kansas City Chiefs went head and jumped out there on K-9. Because they realized where they were sitting, he wasn't going to be there. And I don't want to have to trade any more draft capital to try to move up because we still have too many holes to fill. I believe this is why they did what they did. But Jeremiah Love, a guy that ran what? 4-3, he was moving. 4-3-9, something like that. He was a big kid.

Speaker 2:
[23:19] You know what I do like about him too, Unc, is he's not one-dimensional. He's not just a big kid. He's not just a home run hitter. He's also running back. He can run between the tackles. He can run outside. But hell, you can use him in the pass game. So he's much more valuable, especially while he's going at that number three pick to already crowded quarterback room. I mean, already crowded running back room. Already crowded running back room. They still don't have the answer at the quarterback position. I love Jacoby Brissette. I love what he was able to do last year with those receivers. Marvis Hammons Jr. We need you to come to the party. We need you to play like the first round pick that you are. Is it Mike Wilson? Am I saying his name right? The receiver that showed up last year?

Speaker 1:
[23:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:57] Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:
[23:58] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[23:58] Well, I think it's gonna take some of the pressure off Jacoby Brissette bringing in someone like this, like Jeremiah Love, who is a home run hitter from anywhere on the field and make that team exponentially better. And this is another impact player, day one starter again.

Speaker 1:
[24:16] You know what, Ocho? I don't think this pick happens unless we see the resurgence from the running back over the last five years. We saw what Saquon did. We saw what King Henry did. We saw what Jameer Gibbs did. We saw what Bijon Robinson did. We saw what Christian McCaffrey has done. So you see a resurgence. And all of a sudden, because remember, you'd be crazy. With a lot of talk, you'd be crazy to take a running back in the first round. You'd definitely be crazy to take one in the top five, top 10 picks. But with the resurgence of the running back and teams starting to lead a lean heavy, no, maybe an ordinary running back. But they believe this kid is in the same breath as a Saquon or Derrick Henry, a Bijon Robinson, a Jameer Gibbs, a Christian McCaffrey. So I like this pick. I don't think this is a reach because I don't think this is a reach. If you take the quarterback at the third because you said they need a quarterback, I thought that would have been a reach. Now, if Mendoza had a slid, okay, I get all of that.

Speaker 2:
[25:13] But nobody else.

Speaker 1:
[25:14] But I personally don't think this is a reach. I think the kid is unbelievable, 6'2, 2'12. And hey, you saw what Jameer Gibbs has done for the Lions offense. They're hoping this kid could give them something like that.

Speaker 2:
[25:30] Absolutely. I like it. I like the pick a lot. I mean, that's one of those, you can't pass, you know. Every team, every team, especially by the time we get to maybe to pick five, at that point, it becomes your wants and your needs. Do you want to take the best player that's still left on the draft board, or do we go get what we actually need based on position? So now it gets a little tricky by the time we get after that fifth pick. You know, it's going to be some really good players that are left. I'm talking about very, very valuable players. But is it a player that we need or is it a player that we want? There's a huge difference between the two.

Speaker 1:
[26:09] Unless there were some red flags that we didn't hear about Ocho, I don't think anybody thought these guys would be there when they're selecting 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I think the guys that's come off the board now, I think everybody thought they would be off the board. So I remember talking to Ozzy. I was like Ozzy, talking about Andrew Luck. He said, man, what am I going to work Andrew Luck out for? He ain't going to be that whippy. What am I talking to him about? Ask him how his dad do it? But I agree, Ocho, and that's a decision as a general manager that you have to make. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, I have a situation where I think I can get one, max I'm getting two, but maybe one. I think it's kind of like the Trent William situation. The 49ers have kept kicking the can down the road and they find themselves in a situation, they had to give them another two years at $50 million with 37 guarantees because they have refused to try to go out there. And I'm not saying it has to be a first rounder, but at some point in time, you got to start eyeing. Yeah. You know what? We hadn't had a storm in a while. I might need to stack up on some paper towels, some toilet paper and some water just in case. A lot of times, what do people do? The storm hit and now you ain't got two rolls of toilet paper and a roll of paper towels, and you got one jug of water, and all of a sudden, you try to go to the grocery store, and the shelves are bare.

Speaker 2:
[27:41] You know what else is a hard thing? You're talking about kicking the can down the road. But we talk about Trent Williams. We talk about one of the better left tackles, if not one of the best left tackles in the game. We're talking about top two, maybe top three, depending on who you ask. It's hard to replace that. Also, I think bringing in another left tackle, I don't want to use the word piss off, but I think it's more so quarterbacks are more worried about bringing in someone else as their competition. But I just don't see anybody that has been that good where they say, you know what? This is going to be the successor to goddamn Trent Williams in our offense. Who's gonna protect the quarterback, take the blind side for our quarterback for the future?

Speaker 1:
[28:19] What you do is that you bring a guy in and you play him at guard. And that's what they did with Jonathan Ogden.

Speaker 2:
[28:25] Wait, JO. Big Ass was at guard first?

Speaker 1:
[28:27] Then you kick him out. JO started at guard. Tony Jones was the left tackle. Then we traded for T-Bone in 97 because JO came out in 96 as the fourth overall pick. Then we traded for T-Bone. They kicked JO out. Sometimes you'll start a guy on the right side. Like they did the alt kid.

Speaker 2:
[28:48] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[28:48] Start him on the right side and then they kicked him to the left. Cardinal Tate to the titans. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[28:54] I like that.

Speaker 1:
[28:55] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[28:55] I like that.

Speaker 1:
[28:57] Tate a big play threat out of Ohio State. Averages 17 and a half yards per catch. He brings the stick of a quip hands and not zero drops on 58 targets in 2025. He reeled in 12 of the 14 contested catches last season and went 22 or 32 in his college career on those such situations and he lines up all across the field. You know why I like this pick? Cause what did they select last year, Ocho?

Speaker 2:
[29:23] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:25] And what do we need? What do we need KO. Ward to have?

Speaker 2:
[29:27] Weapons. Another dog, another weapon. Let's see, you got Calvin Ridley coming off injury too. Remember, remember Calvin got hurt last year, right? Now you bringing another solid receiver based on what you saw at Ohio State and we know how Ohio State receivers produce in the NFL. Carl Nelsen, we watched him last year at Ohio State. He can do everything, everything. There is no weakness where there's no weakness that I have seen based on the film that I've watched. It's a phenomenal pick. It's a great pick. I'm sure this will allow Calvin Ridley to come along slow and not rush himself back because now you have another receiver in that receiver room that you can count on. I really like that pick. That's nice. That's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 1:
[30:06] Ooh, I mean, you know what? Now what you call them is going to be the Chiefs are going to be able to get a good player. You got Arva Reese is still on the board. Caleb Downs is still on the board. Sonny Styles is still on the board. The big tackle from Miami is still on the board.

Speaker 2:
[30:20] The left tackle from Miami, the tall one? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[30:26] So I like this pick. I think maybe this is a shock because Arva Reese, he was the number one. He had the number one overall rank. And so a lot of people like there's no way if he gets past, if he gets past the Jets at 2, there's no way he's probably going to get past Arizona. But I'm not surprised Arizona took a running back, especially with like we talked about Ocho, the resurgence of the running back position.

Speaker 2:
[30:54] Also it comes down to what we need, not what we want. We're not taking the best player, we're taking the best player that's on the draft board that we actually need.

Speaker 1:
[31:03] This is a need pick. Sometimes you don't need anything and you take the best available. They need a running back. They need somebody that can take the pressure off of their quarterback. They got wide receivers, they got quarterback and they got a tight end. Forget about Trey McBride. You got Wilson, you got Harrison Jr. Well, you know what that does? You're the running back.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] I'm just thinking about Arizona now. Why did I sit here and forget about Trey McBride? Do you understand how that opens everything up for him as well? Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:
[31:37] And because he can line up all across the field, so they got, and like you said, the Ohio State, it goes back to Chris Carter. Their receivers play really well. You go look at a David Boston, you look at a Terry Dwayne, you look at a Joey Galloway. I don't care. Go back, go back and study them. Their wide receivers play extremely well when they get to the NFL.

Speaker 2:
[32:01] Always. I can't think of one Ohio State receiver that is coming to the NFL and didn't take care of business. I can't think of not one. Now, they might not have been super duper stars, but they were always consistent in everything that they did, as long as they were injury free.

Speaker 1:
[32:19] I'm trying to think. Well, you know, CC is in the Hall of Fame. David Boston was an All-Pro one year. He had 1,500 yards. He just, he was in Arizona and then he went to San Diego.

Speaker 2:
[32:35] Hey, remember how big he got? And he was huge.

Speaker 1:
[32:38] Yeah. And then they told, I don't know how true it is, but they told a story is that he had a couple of days before training camp, Ocho, he got both nipples pierced and say, nah, I can't do no, I can't do no one on one cause I can't get jammed. Okay, Ocho, Arva Reeves to the Giants, 64241, and the Cleveland Browns have traded their pick to the Kansas City Cheese. Hey, it's gonna be edgy. What are the cheese trading? What do they want? What do they want? Are they gonna take Sonny Stiles? Are they gonna take the offensive tackle? I don't see them. So what receiver? You talk about the kid out of Lemon. Are you talking about taking the kid out of USC?

Speaker 2:
[33:27] Or maybe Jordan Tyson? I mean, do you really go?

Speaker 1:
[33:32] The tight, you like the tight, you talking about the tight end?

Speaker 2:
[33:34] No, Jordan. Oh, the wide receiver.

Speaker 1:
[33:36] The wide receiver.

Speaker 2:
[33:36] The really twitchy one out of ASU.

Speaker 1:
[33:39] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:40] I don't know, I'm curious. Especially when I'm gonna, hell, my home's just coming back off injury. You need help on the offensive line. So if anything, I'm not mistaken, I'm probably with that fifth, it's the fifth pick, right?

Speaker 1:
[33:53] It'll be sixth.

Speaker 2:
[33:54] Oh, it's the sixth pick? I'm, they might go off as a line. They might. Damn, this is exciting. I can't even, I can't even watch the draft. My damn TV won't, the internet went out and came back on. And now the TV is not connected to my goddamn, Is it, you got bad weather or something? Yeah, man. Oh, it was horrible today in Miami, boy. Oh, it was horrible.

Speaker 1:
[34:15] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Giants gotta feel good. I think this is the, look, do I think they would have taken Bailey? Absolutely. But I don't think, I think they really wanted this kid here. The suddenness, he can play off the ball and you pair him with Brian Burns. You got, on the other side, you got a dual Carter. You got playmakers. You gotta be twitchy. You gotta be sudden. I need somebody to go hunt the quarterback. I need somebody to go chase down Saquon. I need somebody to chase down Jovante Williams. I need that.

Speaker 2:
[34:48] And correct me if I'm wrong. You would probably know better than I do. Isn't Thibodeau still there or am I tripping?

Speaker 1:
[34:55] He's still there as far as isn't Thibodeau still there.

Speaker 2:
[34:58] Well, that's a very crowded room now.

Speaker 1:
[35:04] I don't think he...

Speaker 2:
[35:09] Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:
[35:13] Do they go somebody, maybe Mesadour from the Canes?

Speaker 2:
[35:17] I like that. Wait, you talking about Kansas City? Go defense? Another end?

Speaker 1:
[35:21] Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2:
[35:23] I like that. Somebody to pair with Chris Jones. You didn't like Kurt Loftus? No?

Speaker 1:
[35:29] He tailed off, man. He got that big money and it weighed down. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to drag money and get the quarterback. You gotta play with empty pockets, Ocho. Or at least think you got it. You gotta play like you got it in your pockets, man. And that's what I tell guys. I say, when you get this big contract, you still gotta play like you're starving. That's what the greats do. You didn't know Peyton Manning or Tom Brayden. Tom didn't really make no money, so he's the outlier. So we shouldn't use him. But Peyton Manning and some of these big time guys, Miles Garrett, you wouldn't know Miles Garrett make the kind of money Aaron Donald was the highest made. You didn't know that because they played like they were broke. And that's how you have to look at it. And I love guys. I think the thing is, Ocho, that I love most of the guys. Oh yeah, this right here, this contract you gave me, in a year or two, I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna underpay. I'm gonna make you want to come back to the table and give me a lot of things.

Speaker 2:
[36:24] A lot of people don't think like that, especially players. They get that one big one and they...

Speaker 1:
[36:29] Oh, Ocho, they took the cornerback out of LSU, Mansour Delaney.

Speaker 2:
[36:35] Hey, he nice. He nice, he really nice. Real savvy, real technical.

Speaker 1:
[36:40] Hey, you know the LSU corners now, the LSU, every once in a while, you get one, but you know, hey, but ever since...

Speaker 2:
[36:48] Honey Badger and Pat P.

Speaker 1:
[36:50] Stingley.

Speaker 2:
[36:52] Every last one of those LSU corners that come out.

Speaker 1:
[36:56] God, wait, the Chiefs go from nine to six, so now they swap, the Browns get nine, 74 and 148. They really like it, but you know what? I think they really had to do this. You know why? They lost both of their starting corners. Both of those guys went to the Rams. Wait, remember? Watson and McDuffie. They traded Watson. I mean, excuse me. They traded McDuffie and Watson went via free agency. So I don't think they had a choice.

Speaker 2:
[37:24] So they had no choice but to go up and get something to replace them. That's a need. That's a need pick again, but it's a good need pick. That's really solid, really solid corner.

Speaker 1:
[37:38] I like this for the Browns. I like this. Let me tell you, Ocho, why? Because they need so much. They need so much. Hold on. And remember, they got Jacksonville's first round pick. They got their own first round pick. They got Jacksonville's first round pick. Hey, they got now, look at it. They got 74, they got 148. So they got two second round. They're going to have a second round, two third rounders. What else did they give up for Travis Hunter? Because I think they swapped with Travis Hunter and they got swap picks and they got a first this year and maybe something else.

Speaker 2:
[38:15] And when you talk about the Browns needing so much Unc, and it's not even on the defensive end of the ball. It's not even on the defensive end. Everything that the Browns need is on the offensive end. They need help at the offensive end. And I mean, I just don't, you know I want a receiver. I've been preaching that for a very long time. The Browns need a goddamn receiver.

Speaker 1:
[38:37] I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry. I ain't gon spoil it no more, no more.

Speaker 2:
[38:40] Oh, what, you hit everybody else?

Speaker 1:
[38:43] Yeah. The chicken, pick a bit. Hey, you know.

Speaker 2:
[38:49] Man, I'm mad.

Speaker 1:
[38:50] I'm sorry, Chad. I shot the cable guy a couple of dollars. He said, bro, look here. It's gon be like you right there with him. You gon be on the phone. You be eavesdropping. So, I'm sorry, Chad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's...

Speaker 2:
[39:10] Man, I'm trying to forget how to...

Speaker 1:
[39:16] Hey, pretend you guys didn't hear what I said. I didn't say nothing. I'm sorry. I don't know who the Chiefs gon pick here, Ocho. I really don't. All I know is that they traded with the Cleveland Browns, and they get the number 9 pick, number 74 and 148. So, I'm not sure who they're gonna...

Speaker 2:
[39:34] I think they're gon offense. They're gon offense the line.

Speaker 1:
[39:36] You think they're gon offense? I think they go defense. I think they might go corner.

Speaker 2:
[39:41] Well, maybe...

Speaker 1:
[39:42] They lost both of their corners, Ocho. They lost McDuffie and they lost Watson. And in that pressure style defense that's fast like a run, you got to have an exemplary. Not good. Exemplary. And they lost the safety.

Speaker 2:
[39:57] Trying to think who... I can't see the board.

Speaker 1:
[40:06] The pick is in. I think they're gonna go defense, Chad. What y'all think they're gonna go?

Speaker 2:
[40:10] I bet I'm right.

Speaker 1:
[40:12] I'm not really sure. I kind of like the I kind of like the corner of LSU.

Speaker 2:
[40:17] Be nice.

Speaker 1:
[40:24] No, but I look, six foot, 187 pounds, nice size, position rank, he was the number one in the rank corner in the draft. Number eight overall, he had an 89 grade. So, did the cheese come, the one thing we know about the Kansas City Cheese, they don't give a damn about them picks, they're moving, hey, they like the rams, the rams and the cheese, F them picks, F them picks. Because we've seen, we know the rams and trade picks.

Speaker 2:
[40:58] Quick.

Speaker 1:
[41:00] You see what they did with McDuffie? You see all the picks that they gave up to get, excuse me, Matthew Stafford? Damn them picks.

Speaker 2:
[41:09] They understood, they understood.

Speaker 1:
[41:11] I want a show thing, I want to kill them.

Speaker 2:
[41:12] They understood the vision, and the vision working, it paid off. The pick ain't in yet, huh?

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Chad, Chad, let me ask you, do y'all want me to tell y'all who the commanders are taking, or y'all wanted a secret?

Speaker 2:
[41:29] Wait, what happened to the Chiefs pick, huh?

Speaker 1:
[41:33] We just told you they took Mesadol.

Speaker 2:
[41:35] Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:
[41:37] Mesadol, excuse me, Mansour Delaney. Mansour Delaney, is that, is it Delaney? Mansour Delaney, out of LSU quarterback.

Speaker 2:
[41:48] That's a good one.

Speaker 1:
[41:48] Remember, remember the Chiefs, they traded McDuffie. They didn't want to pay him that. And the thing is, you know, they don't pay big cards. They don't pay come quarter.

Speaker 2:
[41:55] And they let, they let, oh my goodness, why is his name?

Speaker 1:
[41:58] Jalen Watson left Regency.

Speaker 2:
[41:59] What's his name? That left? Remember, they let Sneed, Lazarius Sneed to Tennessee.

Speaker 1:
[42:04] The Titans.

Speaker 2:
[42:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:05] Yeah. And they had Ward at one time. Wasn't, wasn't Traderrius Ward, Chadavis Ward? No, I can't tell y'all. I'll tell you like this here. The guy that's going to the commanders, he and I have the exact same initials. SS.

Speaker 2:
[42:27] Man, what, what you watching? What you watching on Satellite?

Speaker 1:
[42:34] You don't add him. Hey, Ocho, I just put my, I put my head on this table. I can hear him talking in the green room.

Speaker 2:
[42:48] Hey, the NFL app going too slow.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] What y'all thinking? They laughing. Like I said, the guy that's going to the commanders, I'm not saying it's 100%, but I would give it birth control. 99.9. How y'all just getting on the clock? But no, in all seriousness, I really like this pic, hold on. I really like the pic, Ocho. I don't think the Chiefs really have a choice, considering how Spags like to play defense. You got to have corners that can lock up man to man. There's no other way around it. You gotta have corner, and Spags defense, because when he's threatened, he's bringing, he's coming with zero bricks. Plus, if you get, hey, he gonna try to turn, he gonna try to turn, he gonna try to flip the field on you.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] He got to.

Speaker 1:
[44:00] So you gotta have a corner, you gotta have a cornerback that can lock it down one way or another. So, I like this pick. I like this pick.

Speaker 2:
[44:08] Hold on, man.

Speaker 1:
[44:10] Yeah. For me, I think the only, Chad, I don't know what you think about this, but I think the only really surprised pick to me, I did not have Cardinal Tate going this high. Did I think somebody might move, did I think he would go top 12, maybe?

Speaker 2:
[44:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] But he went top five.

Speaker 2:
[44:33] I mean, they needed it. The Titans needed it. He was the best available receiver for the position that they needed. So, I mean, I expected, I knew he was going to go high. Shit, we needed.

Speaker 1:
[44:47] Yeah, high, but Ocho, he went top five.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] Yeah, he liked that. When it comes to the wide receivers in college that did their thing, he was one of the best, if not the best. Depending on who you ask, they'll probably say Jordan Tyson, they'll probably say Young Bull from USC, but obviously that Ohio State, that pedigree that they put out, if there's one that's going to go first, it would have been him. And the production show is on film too, so you know exactly what you're getting.

Speaker 1:
[45:18] Yeah. And for the most part, like we said, Ocho, there's a history of Ohio State receivers playing really well. They coach really well. They run great routes. And so if you go back and look, like I said, I think CC started it. Because CC came out in the supplemental draft. And so with CC and then you had Galloway, and then you had David Boston. I don't know, I think Aaron Glenn, Terry Glenn might have came out before Boston. I'm not really sure. I think Terry Glenn might have came out before Boston. But if you go back and you look at a lot of it, and you look at Garrett Wilson, Michael Thomas, you look at those guys and they've been exemplary once they get to the next level. Kind of like LSU, for LSU's kind of had a pretty good run. Not Clay, was it Clayborne?

Speaker 2:
[46:03] Maurice, Maurice.

Speaker 1:
[46:05] He didn't pan out as well at LSU, because he was sensational at LSU. He didn't do quite as well in NFL. But if you look at Pat P, and you look at Stingley, and you look at Honey Badger. The Saints, I can't tell you who they're taking, but just picture the initials of a Boston Celtics player that just came back from injury about a month ago.

Speaker 2:
[46:47] Tatum, Tatum, let's see, Tatum. Damn, man, let me see if I got ESPN on YouTube TV.

Speaker 1:
[47:00] The pick is in, Washington. Let's see if my hunch, my gut feeling. The Commanders. Okay, the commanders are selected, Ohio State linebacker, Sonny Stiles, was the number seven overall pick. Drafted linebacker, Sonny Stiles, Owu. You remember Ocho, he was the guy that left Baltimore, had no sacks, go to Chargers and played out of his damn mind, parlayed that into a $100 million contract. Then they added Caleb Onchaison, Leo Chanel, who was also from Kansas City. Nick Cross, Tim Settle, Amique Robertson, and Charles Amenahoo.

Speaker 2:
[47:57] Oh, that's dope, that's live.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] So you see what the commanders are doing. They're going heavy defense, heavy defense. Look at the additions that they added.

Speaker 2:
[48:13] Sonny Styles.

Speaker 1:
[48:15] Sonny Styles and he tested off the charts.

Speaker 2:
[48:19] Him and his brother, man, listen.

Speaker 1:
[48:22] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[48:22] Hey, the dad played for the Rams.

Speaker 1:
[48:25] I don't remember him, but his dad was on that Superbowl team.

Speaker 2:
[48:31] Six, five, two, 44. And you get to pair him up with, what's number four's name that always wear the face paint for the commanders?

Speaker 1:
[48:41] Oh, Lovu.

Speaker 2:
[48:42] Yeah, Lovu.

Speaker 1:
[48:44] Frankie Lovu.

Speaker 2:
[48:46] I think Bobby came back for another year, right? Bobby Wagner came back for another year?

Speaker 1:
[48:50] I don't know. I think he's still available. I don't know if Vaughn is going to be back, because you know they had Vaughn Miller. Vaughn Miller had seven, eight sacks last year. Played really, really well for him.

Speaker 2:
[49:03] That boy could play, boy. Hey, they, they.

Speaker 1:
[49:13] But the Saints, you see the Saints, they lost Rashid Shaheed. So now they're getting somebody to go play with Alavi. I like it.

Speaker 2:
[49:22] Wait.

Speaker 1:
[49:22] Like it a lot?

Speaker 2:
[49:23] Wait. Wait.

Speaker 1:
[49:24] Who they get? Oh.

Speaker 2:
[49:26] Why you ain't, come on, keep me up, man. Keep me up to date it.

Speaker 1:
[49:30] I told you he got the initials of the guy that just came back from the Celtics.

Speaker 2:
[49:34] Hold on. Hold on. Wait.

Speaker 1:
[49:36] Who is the guy that just came back from the Celtics, from injury a month ago? Okay. What's his initials?

Speaker 2:
[49:42] JT.

Speaker 1:
[49:44] Okay. What's the receiver?

Speaker 2:
[49:48] Jordan Tyson. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[49:51] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[49:51] Okay. Oh, see your TV, man. How the heck your TV so fast?

Speaker 1:
[49:57] You know what I'm saying though.

Speaker 2:
[49:58] Listen, Stiles is still walking. He's still walking up to get his hat.

Speaker 1:
[50:04] Oh, he go ahead and walk. I already gave it to him.

Speaker 2:
[50:09] Okay, Stiles, he hugging the commissioner right now and your pick already in.

Speaker 1:
[50:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:16] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[50:17] All right. I ain't gonna spoil it for y'all. Look.

Speaker 2:
[50:19] Come on.

Speaker 1:
[50:20] We're gonna let him have it. Well, we know, we know the pick up. We already know. So that's it. Y'all ain't get no more picks. Y'all gonna find out when everybody else find out. But see when you come to Nightcap, y'all want the good, y'all want the no. That's what y'all coming for.

Speaker 2:
[50:35] This is dope. This is dope. I see, I see Gadiel. Gadiel dressed like the mob tonight. Got the shirt button open. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[50:52] But no, look, I like this pick. I like this pick by the commanders. You know, they're loading up on defense. Ocho, you gotta have defense. You guess what? You end up with the other cowboys. If George Pickens stays there, boy, you gotta go get the quarterback. You gotta get back on the ground. You gotta get back on the ground. You look at the Eagles. Now, we believe that come June 1st, AJ Brown is gonna be playing elsewhere.

Speaker 2:
[51:17] New England. No, we ain't gonna say elsewhere. I'm gonna tell you where we gonna be at.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] Okay, do it.

Speaker 2:
[51:21] I've been telling y'all for three months. AJ Brown will be in New England, but go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[51:27] And so, you know, Smitty and they signed Hollywood Brown. They just made it for Wicks, Green Bay. So, you're gonna have to get the quarterback on the ground because you can't always rely on your coverage is gonna be so strong in the back end that you'll be able to hold up. Go put the quarterback on the ground and don't worry about anything else.

Speaker 2:
[51:55] Hey, that's dope.

Speaker 1:
[51:56] No, no, no, we ain't gon spoil it. Y'all gotta wait. Because NFL, NFL gon be mad at us. They already know, they already know give us no perks on show. They're not gon really give us anything now. See, if y'all let us come to the combine, we wouldn't have did this. I mean, the draft.

Speaker 2:
[52:23] Oh, we was going, but we had a sketching conflict.

Speaker 1:
[52:28] Man, I'll tell you about it one day.

Speaker 2:
[52:31] Man, we take...

Speaker 1:
[52:33] Let's just say we don't get some of the perks the other part did.

Speaker 2:
[52:37] Hey, we still the best in the world.

Speaker 1:
[52:40] But they can't stop progress. Progress must progress.

Speaker 2:
[52:44] Again, we still the best in the world.

Speaker 1:
[52:47] With or without you.

Speaker 2:
[52:49] Period.

Speaker 1:
[52:49] We're gonna roll. You roll with us or we're gonna roll over you?

Speaker 2:
[52:52] Hey, like my daughter say, clock that.

Speaker 1:
[52:56] Okay. They tweeted it?

Speaker 2:
[52:57] Yeah, Spencer Fanno, the Browns.

Speaker 1:
[53:00] Uh, what is he? Spencer Fano, he's offensive lineman. Utah, yeah, the big Utah, yeah. The tackle. Hey, that's what Shadour need. Because they lost a lot of guys. I think, what's the right tackle? The left guy, I think, they lost like two offensive linemen, Ocho.

Speaker 2:
[53:30] So Cleveland went offensive line?

Speaker 1:
[53:31] And so, Cleveland went offensive line.

Speaker 2:
[53:34] That's a good thing, that's a good thing. That's a great thing.

Speaker 1:
[53:40] Yes, but hey, guess what, okay? Now, get you a receiver.

Speaker 2:
[53:48] No.

Speaker 1:
[53:51] Cleveland?

Speaker 2:
[53:51] From where? Not in the draft.

Speaker 1:
[53:55] You don't like the kid from USC?

Speaker 2:
[53:58] Unc, they-

Speaker 1:
[53:59] Linemen?

Speaker 2:
[54:00] I like him, unc, but I'm talking about coming in right now and make an impact. I'm talking about coming in and turn Cleveland upside down. I need somebody that will come in right now and turn it upside down. Jamar Chase came in and turned Cincinnati upside down. Justin Jefferson came in.

Speaker 1:
[54:14] I don't believe any of these guys in the draft for Jamar Chase. Hell, I don't believe the guy that went far is Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase.

Speaker 2:
[54:20] That's why I was giving an example. Justin Jefferson, I need somebody that will come in, my team right now, and change the trajectory of my franchise. That's not in the draft. I don't want you to just go get a guy. I'm not a Cleveland Brown fan. I'm just telling you what they need. And I've said it all last year.

Speaker 1:
[54:41] But here's the thing that you have to understand. Justin Jefferson had a veteran quarterback throwing him the ball. Chase had Joe Burrow, somebody he was very, very familiar with throwing him the ball. So they started out ahead of the curve. Chase and Burrow, Joe, already had a working relationship. Cousins, a veteran, he knew this offense back was in forward.

Speaker 2:
[55:09] Right.

Speaker 1:
[55:10] So if you look at Jetta's numbers with first cousins, look at his numbers without first cousins. And we don't think first cousin is a world-beater, but he understands offense. He knows how to let that ball go. He knows where Jetta's gonna be. He knows where Jetta wants the ball. Where do you think they go? You think they go another offensive line or they go defense?

Speaker 2:
[55:37] I don't know. I don't know. You know what? I'm not even gonna say it, but you know who I won't die now. Go on here and get that three over there in Dallas. Get on here and put that brown helmet on him. Give him that money he won't. Trade it, trade the pick. I wish.

Speaker 1:
[55:55] Now, hello. Yeah, okay. I see what you're saying. Trade your pick. This was Kansas City's pick. The number nine pick. Because Cleveland's number nine. That's Kansas City's pick. You still have your pick.

Speaker 2:
[56:14] Let's go.

Speaker 1:
[56:16] No, no, no, no, no, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. Because you was picking six. Kansas City was picking nine. Y'all flop. Oh, they got Jacksonville's pick. They got Jacksonville's pick later. When they traded their pick, and Jacksonville selected Travis Hunter. So they do got another first round pick, Ocho. Where is Cleveland's second first round pick? Where is it at? 24. See, they got number 24, Ocho. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[57:09] Hey.

Speaker 1:
[57:09] Cleveland. Bet this thing. It's about, yeah. The Giants are gonna take the big OT out of Miami.

Speaker 2:
[57:19] Hey, big left tackle. Hey, that's a good thing. Jackson Dart, huh? Come on, man.

Speaker 1:
[57:25] Francis Maui, Goa. Yeah, because you had to, because I can't count on Thomas staying healthy. And the last thing that I want to do, the absolute last thing that I want to do, other than stick nails in my eyes, is put every needle over there on the left side. So I can't count on Thomas, and I refuse, hey, just go ahead, hey, just go ahead and give me a spike nail, and let me put it in my skull. This is, look, I like what the, think about what they got. They got Arvorese and they got a tackle. You come out here and you got two, you feel two need positions.

Speaker 2:
[58:25] Huge needs, especially that goddamn left tackle.

Speaker 1:
[58:30] Okay, oh, Maui, Francis Maui Noah. The G in Polynesian, Ocho is, the G is pronounced Nuh, Maui Noah. So Francis Maui Noah, six foot six, 329 pounds out of you. You is headed to the football Giants. Hey, hey, the Giants, y'all gotta be pleased. If these guys, hey, hey, if these guys hit, the Giants are gonna be straight. You got a quarterback, you get neighbors coming back. Hey, you got a nice, you got a nice little set up. You got a nice little set up. Your defense, I like it.

Speaker 2:
[59:13] I'm trying to think. Hey man, this thing going so slow. I'm still on the Saints pick. Where your TV at? Hey, my thing is still on the Saints pick on my YouTube.

Speaker 1:
[59:29] Oh, no. The Cleveland Browns pick is me.

Speaker 2:
[59:32] God, me. Jordan Tice is still hugging Goodell.

Speaker 1:
[59:38] Oh, no. Fano, the big Utah tackle. He's in Cleveland now.

Speaker 2:
[59:44] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[59:45] Man, that man got on the plane in Cleveland. You're talking about Jordan Tice is still hugging Goodell. Fano on the plane. Fano on the plane. He on the plane to Cleveland. I don't know what kind of service you got. You got the AOL dial-up.

Speaker 2:
[60:04] Hey. I don't know what the hell wrong with this thing.

Speaker 1:
[60:12] The Saint selected Arizona State Jordan Tyson. Remember, he's the guy that transferred out of Colorado and went on to have a stellar career at Arizona State. Playmaker, reliable hands, 136 catches, 1812 yards, 18 total touchdowns in 21 games across the last two seasons.

Speaker 2:
[60:37] Damn, I can't find...

Speaker 1:
[60:42] Wow. Going back to the fourth pick, ESPN drafting a predictor, Ocho. There was a 0.4% chance that Cardinal Tate would go number four. So a less than 1% chance.

Speaker 2:
[60:54] You know what? Those people that are guessing don't understand or know what those teams need. Now that's the difference. That's the difference. It all comes down to what do we need to help improve our franchise? And you're not, if you know football, especially once he tested, once he ran what he ran, even though people will say, oh, we ran four or five, oh, that's a red flag, the hell you say.

Speaker 1:
[61:16] I'm gonna give a damn.

Speaker 2:
[61:17] You better turn on the film.

Speaker 1:
[61:20] Well, who caught them passes? Well, somebody catch the passes for him so they had the four three guy that catching the passes.

Speaker 2:
[61:27] Hey, hey, turn on the film. That's all you need to see.

Speaker 1:
[61:30] All I know is he beat a lot of guys that was running four three and four four for touchdown.

Speaker 2:
[61:34] Every last one.

Speaker 1:
[61:36] I need a guy to play football fast. I don't need a guy to run fast.

Speaker 2:
[61:39] Hey, now if you just happen to run fast and play football fast, I'll take I'll take you. I appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[61:47] But everybody can't there are guys that can run fast but don't know how to run fast, run fast with pads on. There's a difference between running fast with a with a t-shirt and tights. As opposed to playing fast with shoulder pads, helmet, helmet, cleats, thigh pads, knee pads. Those are two different things.

Speaker 2:
[62:08] It's going to be different. Hey, who's up now?

Speaker 1:
[62:14] Who's on the clock now? Oh, the pig is here.

Speaker 2:
[62:20] Hey, what's your, what kind of internet?

Speaker 1:
[62:21] Cleveland, Cleveland, pig number nine. Who's on the clock? Who's number ten?

Speaker 2:
[62:24] What kind of internet you got, man?

Speaker 1:
[62:26] Oh, the Giants. No, Spitz for now went to Cleveland, and the Giants selected...

Speaker 2:
[62:33] The tackle from UM. Okay, what team is next?

Speaker 1:
[62:38] Who's next?

Speaker 2:
[62:47] Somebody in the chat said, you already watched the draft. That's how you knew everything.