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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 4:
[02:12] I'm Rob Cesternino. Keep that music going.

Speaker 5:
[02:15] It's cut it off too short.

Speaker 4:
[02:20] How's it going tonight, Canada?

Speaker 1:
[02:27] Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:
[02:29] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[02:29] I got to sit down. Are we okay?

Speaker 4:
[02:36] No. And who are we mad at?

Speaker 1:
[02:42] Is this going to be like a new Mike White thing?

Speaker 4:
[02:44] Like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:47] Well, I am so thrilled to be here with a thousand people here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We have a great show here for you tonight, and I'm so excited to talk about all this survivor, even though we didn't love the outcome. We have a lot to break down, and so we are blessed here to have one of your great Canadian winners here with us. My great friend, Marian Okich, is here.

Speaker 4:
[03:31] Sit next to me.

Speaker 6:
[03:33] Perfect.

Speaker 5:
[03:36] Marian, how are you?

Speaker 6:
[03:37] I'm devastated. You know, for some lore, my first season was David vs. Goliath, and I immediately fell in love with Christian, and then I've got to know him, and now he's gone in such a brutal way. Oh my goodness, I am so sad.

Speaker 1:
[03:54] Yeah, it was tough on a number of different levels that Christian looked so sad, that he had the indignity of having to vote for himself, and then ultimately went out, and it did seem like a blind side. Let me start off by asking you that, do you feel like that the Jimmy Fallon twist caused this?

Speaker 6:
[04:17] Oh my goodness. I think that, and to go a little bit sciency on you, I think the Jimmy Fallon twist was the enzyme, you know? So enzymes from people who don't know, it kind of speeds chemical reactions. So instead of something taking five minutes, it takes five seconds. So I think that the pieces moving for Christian to be booted were already being put in place, but with the Jimmy Fallon twist giving him this vote that everyone knew he had, it made it maybe from happening maybe at the next tribal, or the next two tribals to this tribal.

Speaker 1:
[04:52] Yeah, that's a good theory. My thought on it is that, and maybe right, maybe that they were going to put more of the votes on Rick, and he was going to be the backup vote, and then Rick Devins when he doesn't have an actual idol is going to get, is going to get out of the game, and people are going to be like, stupid Devins didn't play his idol, tried to bluff us. But maybe the extra vote on Christian helped make it be him. But I think even if he did that puzzle on the journey, and he puts a vote in the urn for Ozzy, I think he probably still goes home in this episode.

Speaker 6:
[05:32] You know, I'm going to be like an American, and when I hear something I don't like, just pretend it actually never was heard.

Speaker 1:
[05:40] Wait, we do that?

Speaker 4:
[05:41] We do that?

Speaker 6:
[05:43] I hear, I hear-

Speaker 4:
[05:44] When did we ever do that?

Speaker 1:
[05:46] We never did that.

Speaker 6:
[05:47] But I do have to-

Speaker 1:
[05:48] I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.

Speaker 4:
[05:52] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[05:53] I can't say that. I can't say with my full conscious that, if the Jimmy Fallon twist didn't happen, Christian could be here another day. But I also can't say, the Jimmy Fallon twist wasn't a catalyst for a part of this, you know?

Speaker 1:
[06:07] I just don't think that this was necessarily like, I don't think that this was a game breaking to say, and we just watched the episode, I don't know what the response is going to be. I know the audience, you didn't like it, right? But if somebody you didn't like, if a person you didn't like, and I'm not going to say names, ended up, if that person got voted out, would you like this? So it's hard to say because you're biased.

Speaker 6:
[06:37] I like a self-aware audience.

Speaker 1:
[06:38] Yeah, but it's okay.

Speaker 6:
[06:40] It's like we were, because I can't lie, I was like, I love the Phoenix coconuts, I love the coconut sari with the coconut twist, you know? So you love it when it happens to the people you love, you hate it when it happens to the people you love. I think I mixed it up, I got lost somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[06:55] That's okay. I'd love to just talk a little bit about Christian as we look back at what he did in this season, because he had a great run, right?

Speaker 6:
[07:06] Oh, so.

Speaker 1:
[07:08] And only one person is going to win the game, but I really think that he came in and he did so much, and I think that he really elevated his status as a survivor player to go from one of the great quirky characters to, I think he's really on that like elite level of, not necessarily as one of the greatest players of all time, but just like a top of mind all time character that's ever been on the show.

Speaker 6:
[07:35] I agree. I agree completely. Yeah. Clap if you agree.

Speaker 1:
[07:42] Not everybody can be an all time character and the winner too.

Speaker 6:
[07:46] He was, oh thank you. No. Question was great and then I think that a blessing as well for us, the viewers was that he went to every single Tribal and pre-merge. So we got to see a lot of him, which I know that was at least for me, I'm like, I get to see him every week and now even though he's gone, it's like when you finish a piece of cake and it was a perfect size. You're like, I wish I had more cake but I'm happy with the cake that I've had.

Speaker 1:
[08:13] Yeah, or a macaroon, yeah, in honor of Christian. You know, his story I think also bookends in like a very poetic way because we first meet Christian in Survivor David versus Goliath on the boat in the opening challenge and what does he do in the introduction to us? A puzzle and ultimately a puzzle in a way is part of the ending to his story. So I do think that there is some some symmetry there in terms of like how he came into Survivor and how he probably goes out. But you never know if he plays again. But for now, certainly a bookend to his story. And it was such an emotional moment for him when he didn't end up doing it. Because I think that we all thought when he walked on to that barge and you saw a puzzle and you were like, yes, this is in Christian's wheelhouse.

Speaker 5:
[09:15] He's got this.

Speaker 1:
[09:17] I bet he was thinking that too.

Speaker 6:
[09:19] Yeah, I know walking. I'm like, oh yeah, I mean, what advantage is he going to get? I'm like, oh, it's Jimmy Fallon. I'm like, oh, he's going to get this vote. I wonder how. And I was already in my mind thinking about, oh, who's he going to vote for? Is it going to be Ozzy? Is he going to do another shot of the dark thing? And then, in my mind, he already won. And I think it was that sadness of him losing as well, too. And I know, and I'm assuming that everyone in the audience here wasn't like, Christian, you idiot, you lost. It was like, oh, I'm so sorry, but I understand how it can happen.

Speaker 1:
[09:48] Yeah. Well, you don't lose things. But I could tell you, I could tell you as somebody who's lost a few times, like, I know that I really resonated with that so much about that lesson that he wants to impart on his son, Michael, and he talked about it in there and in his closing words of, you know, it's not what happens to you when, I wish I could remember exactly what he said, when the bad things happen to you, it's how you respond to it that really he wants to impart. I think it's just a great lesson to take away because so much of survivor is defeat and pain. Again, you don't know, but it is, it is. And so many of these survivors are dealing with these wounds and scars from their other times. And it is, how do you respond to it?

Speaker 6:
[10:37] Yeah, I never want to challenge, so I have experienced loss.

Speaker 1:
[10:42] You were on Jonathan's tribe also.

Speaker 6:
[10:45] But yes, thank you, Jonathan, thank you. But what I do feel and really appreciate is when you have that rock bottom, because you have rock bottom on Survivor. And then with Christian, it's like he hit his rock bottom and the camera zooms in. And it's like, you have, and it's like now it's not just you feeling that, it's like you are feeling it and experiencing it and know that what, five million people are going to be seeing that experience and the way he was able to articulate himself being like, oh my goodness, this is the worst feeling ever. I just lost and now it's going to be bad for my game. But now I'm also thinking about how people are going to see the loss. He handled that so well.

Speaker 1:
[11:22] I thought he was going to be safe. I really did. I thought it was going to be the kind of thing where this was going to be a blessing in disguise, where he was going to have a vote on him and he came back and I thought in a way it was an advantage that rather than him coming back with a mystery item of like, what does Christian have? What is he up to? And that we got a pile of votes on him because he has something. He was able to come back and say, look, guys, I lost my vote. Or I'm voting for myself tonight. And then I think that when everybody was looking Christian, I thought that there was maybe an opportunity that they were going to go in a different direction. And I think he thought that too. And I think he got played hard ultimately by certainly Suri, probably Tiffany, probably Aubrey. I think he was acting at that Tribal Council in a way like he felt like he was safe.

Speaker 6:
[12:10] Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:
[12:11] He was being a little silly at Tribal Council.

Speaker 6:
[12:13] He was being angry with Jimmy Fallon, understandably so, talking and then also the Tribal Suri and Aussie were great where it's like, oh, we can go for the low-hanging fruit or we can play Survivor, but too little did Christian know that Survivor was the low-hanging fruit today.

Speaker 1:
[12:30] I got faked out. I thought this was going to be Emily Flippen going home.

Speaker 6:
[12:35] Yeah, I was just discombobulated because every name that came out of someone's mouth was someone I was rooting or liked. So it was like either it's Emily's bad, Christian horrible, Devon's bad, Ozzy horrible. So I'm like, no matter what happens, I will be sad in some sort of level. And I think for me, we got the saddest option.

Speaker 1:
[12:57] Yeah, this was tough to see him go. I think ultimately it's Christian who pays the price after the Rick and Christian idol fake. I think that last week, I think that Coach and Chrissy were going home anyway. And while it was great theater that they did that, I think ultimately we might say that there's a lesson to be learned and the other survivors don't like it when you do these types of things.

Speaker 6:
[13:26] Yeah, especially when in a returning season, I know that some people are also thinking about not just the game, but the air time as well too. And so that might have been a factor for some people that were playing the game and might not have loved that theatrics because it might have been interpreted as you're playing for screen time.

Speaker 1:
[13:44] Right, right. I think that for Rick and Chris, I think in hindsight, I think that it's sort of like the Jurassic Park question of you asked yourself whether or not you could do this, but you didn't ask yourself whether or not you should do this. And I think that they were safe. I think that coach, I think that Suri had flipped the vote and then they made it about them in that moment. Again, we loved it. It was great theater. But the other players all didn't like it.

Speaker 6:
[14:11] Yeah, I think it's really about that. Are you willing to go and take a step back in your game? And then Rick, especially if we look at 38, he loves playing from the bottom. He loves going and for a lack of better term, he's like a power bottom. He's able to go, have his theatrics. And this was the first time in the season when he felt like he was on the bottom, and he just went right back to his 38th.

Speaker 4:
[14:50] I didn't know you knew what that was.

Speaker 6:
[14:54] I'm well learned.

Speaker 1:
[14:56] You are. Okay, all right. What? It's getting hot.

Speaker 4:
[15:09] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[15:11] We have here no better person to eulogize our fallen friend, Dr. Christian Hubecky, than his longtime partner in crime. Please welcome Gabby Pascuzzi is here.

Speaker 4:
[15:33] Gabby, how are you?

Speaker 7:
[15:36] Not good, Rob. Not good.

Speaker 1:
[15:41] You don't think Mike White is celebrating tonight, right?

Speaker 7:
[15:44] I heard he's throwing a party to gloat about.

Speaker 1:
[15:46] He's throwing a party, and we know who's not invited. All right, so Gabby, how are you doing tonight?

Speaker 7:
[15:55] I have never hated a late night host more than I have. I hate Jimmy Fallon tonight.

Speaker 1:
[16:06] You blame Jimmy.

Speaker 8:
[16:08] I'm blaming Jimmy.

Speaker 1:
[16:09] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[16:10] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[16:14] Wait, I just want to get the record straight. Wasn't your season, and you guys can fact check me, the first season without swimsuits.

Speaker 7:
[16:21] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[16:21] And wasn't that also Jimmy Fallon?

Speaker 1:
[16:23] No, no, no.

Speaker 4:
[16:24] I think that was Tyler Perry. I think that was Tyler Perry.

Speaker 7:
[16:26] Tyler Perry. Easily mixed up. Easily mixed up.

Speaker 4:
[16:30] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[16:32] That was Tyler Perry. I'm fine if we want to blame Jimmy Fallon for everything bad that's ever happened on Survivor.

Speaker 6:
[16:37] I hear he cut it to 26 days.

Speaker 4:
[16:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:41] You know, Jimmy Fallon did invent one thing previously on Survivor, that he invented the Robin Sandra booth in season 39.

Speaker 7:
[16:52] I don't get it.

Speaker 6:
[16:53] He did.

Speaker 4:
[16:54] That's not a joke.

Speaker 1:
[16:54] He did. He did?

Speaker 5:
[16:55] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[16:57] He's just full of great ideas.

Speaker 5:
[16:59] He's got a lot of ideas.

Speaker 1:
[17:01] He's got a lot of ideas. I thought this was supposed to be in the hands of the fans. This is like a lot of celebrities.

Speaker 10:
[17:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:09] Okay. But Gabby, back to you.

Speaker 10:
[17:14] Is there a question?

Speaker 1:
[17:16] I just take us through your emotions tonight.

Speaker 7:
[17:20] I've got notes. My emotions today, I don't need notes for this.

Speaker 11:
[17:26] I'm actually pissed.

Speaker 4:
[17:28] I'm pissed.

Speaker 7:
[17:29] No one can come for Christian Hubecky except for me.

Speaker 11:
[17:33] Yes.

Speaker 7:
[17:33] Certainly not Jimmy Fallon. I am very disappointed that we don't know whether his game would have turned out better if this twist hadn't happened. I loved your analogy with the enzyme. Yeah, it was really good. And I definitely knew how an enzyme worked before you said that. I think Christian played a great game. I'm really proud of him. And I'm glad that he seemed like he had fun most of the season until the incident. And then I'm glad that he got to...

Speaker 1:
[18:08] Which incident?

Speaker 7:
[18:15] I'm glad that he got to tell his son really good advice. Like, in case this ever happens to you, a puzzle being dragged into the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 1:
[18:27] Listen, Christian's story this season has been all about trying to save face in crappy situations and recover. Remember, do it with a smile.

Speaker 7:
[18:40] He's really good at recovery.

Speaker 1:
[18:42] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[18:43] No, he did great and I took a video of everyone booing Jimmy Fallon to send to him.

Speaker 1:
[18:51] Do you think that Jimmy Fallon will give Christian that apology?

Speaker 7:
[18:59] I actually saw that Jimmy Fallon had tweeted and that's why I took out my phone.

Speaker 1:
[19:03] Yes. He tweeted in a formal apology?

Speaker 7:
[19:06] Yes. He said, There is no excuse for this. I am very sorry for making this unquestionably offensive decision and thank you all for holding me accountable.

Speaker 1:
[19:18] Wow. Was that on Twitter or Blue Sky?

Speaker 9:
[19:22] Wait, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 7:
[19:24] That's actually what he tweeted after videos resurfaced of him doing blackface. It was Lorne Michaels' fault. It was Lorne Michaels' fault. It was on SNL in the year 2000. They didn't know about racism back then.

Speaker 1:
[19:52] We're learning.

Speaker 7:
[19:54] No, I'm finding all these notes on my phone now. Just a couple of things I wanted to say while I was up here. This twist made me sicker than the 4D motion simulator ride Race Through New York, starring Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 1:
[20:10] What theme park is that at?

Speaker 7:
[20:12] Universal. Better than Disney Adults, Universal Adults. I'm one of them. It's a really bad ride. It will make you motion sick. What are my other notes? Jimmy Fallon, I'd say stick to your day job, late night job, I guess. But I don't really want you to do that either.

Speaker 4:
[20:52] I don't know where to go next.

Speaker 1:
[20:55] You know what? Yeah. You know, I wanna talk about, this was a historic night that we all worked together here for, because this was, tonight was, the first time ever that Jeff did a challenge. And I loved it. Marianne, what was your reaction to Jeff doing the challenge?

Speaker 6:
[21:22] I loved it. And I loved how, immediately when you saw him locking on the challenge, he completely forgot how to host. Like, he's like, wait, wait, who dropped? Oh my gosh, what's happening? What's going on? He got really into it. And I think it was cathartic to see the players finally roast him the way that this man, like, I wanna tell you, he roasts still as mean as in the earlier seasons. They just kind of, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. That man is still mean. So to see it, I was so, so happy. And you got a shout out.

Speaker 1:
[21:54] Yes, that Christian, I could have sworn that I heard him say to Jeff, and I don't know if this was binding, but he was, Jeff was really going through it. He said, Christian said, I believe, hey, Jeff, every, at the end of the season, I get to do an interview that is going to be over an hour long, and if I beat you, I get to go as long as I want. And I don't know if Jeff agreed to that. Is that binding? What do you think?

Speaker 6:
[22:28] I think, and you know, if there was a lawyer who was Canadian from Winnipeg who could help me, but I think, I do think that contracts under coercion are allowed, at least in Survivor.

Speaker 1:
[22:44] Because you are the last deep dive that I've ever did.

Speaker 6:
[22:48] It's true. And I was like two of them.

Speaker 1:
[22:51] It is true. So, look, I mean, it keeps my schedule better, but I would love to talk to Christian for as many hours as possible. Gabby, what do you think about the Jeff doing the challenge?

Speaker 7:
[23:02] It was more entertaining than I thought genuinely. The perception of time on Survivor is so wild. Like, and you hear players say this, they're like, we felt like we were out there for 45 minutes. And I feel like we just got that debunked tonight because Jeff was like, how long have I been out here? And the producer said seven and a half minutes.

Speaker 1:
[23:22] Yeah. He was, I think at one point he was like, like six minutes. He's like, what?

Speaker 5:
[23:26] It's six minutes.

Speaker 7:
[23:28] And it seemed like 10 minutes had passed between when he said six minutes. When they checked back in, it was like, it was seven and a half minutes.

Speaker 1:
[23:35] I thought Jeff was going to come in and kick the Survivor's asses. Like I thought Jeff was like, I'm really good at this.

Speaker 7:
[23:45] He's fully fed.

Speaker 1:
[23:47] He's fully fed.

Speaker 7:
[23:47] He probably, he had time to practice. He had time to probably get tips from the dream team. And he got beaten by Suri?

Speaker 6:
[23:57] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[23:57] No, he beat Suri. He beat Suri.

Speaker 6:
[23:59] There was 11 people and he beat four. So that means that seven, is that the math?

Speaker 1:
[24:04] Yes, he beat Rizzo, Emily, Rick and Suri. I think Rick kind of dropped out though, because I think that Riz God was trying to host the challenge. And even Jeff was like, I think we need Rick Devens to host the challenge. And Rick's like, okay, I'm going to drop out.

Speaker 4:
[24:21] Oh, I slipped.

Speaker 1:
[24:23] And then he just wanted the hosting audition.

Speaker 6:
[24:27] Maybe just Jeff doesn't have good grip strength. Like he might be, like he might physically have it, but that's a very grip strength challenge, where if you're not able to-

Speaker 1:
[24:35] That's what Charlie said.

Speaker 6:
[24:36] Yeah. So Charlie would have beat Jeff.

Speaker 1:
[24:39] You don't think Jeff tanked it, do you? No. No, the other thing- He would have wanted to win. The only thing that makes me think that is that then, I think that he was probably like, okay, I'll do this in the beginning of the challenge, because that's the boring part when everybody's just standing there. But then when it gets down to where I have to actually call it, I'll already be out. But maybe he thought that like, okay, well, there were four people that were going to probably outlast him anyway, so he would have been out. Because then he jumps in towards the end. He's like, all right, now we're being serious. Okay, now fun's over. I gotta call the end of this. So I thought maybe there was a chance, but it was just so fun. I loved it.

Speaker 7:
[25:15] It was definitely better than negotiating for who's gonna sit out.

Speaker 12:
[25:19] It was a fun twist.

Speaker 1:
[25:20] You were at the first Rice negotiation.

Speaker 7:
[25:23] Oh, I was, yeah. We got a great deal in hindsight.

Speaker 1:
[25:28] Nobody had to beat Jeff in the challenge.

Speaker 7:
[25:31] No, and only one person sat out. Honestly, people dragged Angelina for her negotiation skills, but it ended up being pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[25:38] It's still a part of the show. It's baked in now.

Speaker 7:
[25:42] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[25:42] Okay, all right. Well, Gabby, thank you so much. Is there anything else you want to tell us?

Speaker 7:
[25:53] No, I think I'm good. All my homies hate Jimmy Fallon.

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Speaker 13:
[29:10] K-Pop Demon Hunter's Saja Boys Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

Speaker 2:
[29:19] It's not a battle.

Speaker 14:
[29:20] So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

Speaker 8:
[29:24] It is an honor to share.

Speaker 15:
[29:26] No, it's our honor.

Speaker 16:
[29:28] It is our larger honor. No, really, stop.

Speaker 13:
[29:31] You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

Speaker 11:
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Speaker 19:
[30:39] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[30:40] We've got some more friends here with us. They're not here to do charades. They're here to talk about it. Franny Baron, Omar Zaheer and Kevin Jacobs.

Speaker 19:
[30:54] Hi.

Speaker 1:
[30:54] Hey, everybody. How are you doing?

Speaker 19:
[30:56] Great. How are you?

Speaker 1:
[30:57] I mean, we're having fun.

Speaker 19:
[30:58] Why are you dressed like a 70s couch?

Speaker 1:
[31:00] 70s couch?

Speaker 5:
[31:01] This is what I'm giving?

Speaker 16:
[31:02] I think the cardigan looks good.

Speaker 19:
[31:03] All right.

Speaker 5:
[31:04] All right.

Speaker 19:
[31:04] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[31:05] Okay. Is it because everybody was roasting Jeff?

Speaker 1:
[31:10] You come in and roast the host of the show now? Is that what happens? We turned it around?

Speaker 19:
[31:15] Always.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] Omar, what did you think about Jeff doing the challenge?

Speaker 19:
[31:20] I could have kicked his ass. Just saying. No, it was great. I actually thought it was a grunt. That's my favorite 50 twist so far. I have to say. Yeah. Yeah. Hot take, but true.

Speaker 7:
[31:28] Yeah.

Speaker 19:
[31:29] I feel the same.

Speaker 7:
[31:30] I feel the same. I feel the same. It was so fun. He was having fun. Like it really felt like a moment of joy from Jeff. And I feel like, you know, you got to take those.

Speaker 1:
[31:37] It really did. I think that they perfectly captured what we were all hoping for in season 50. I think it might be if you go back, I think it's maybe Jeff's most likeable moment in the entire run of the show.

Speaker 19:
[31:50] I really think so. It was. I totally agree. He had so much fun and he, I can't believe he lost to Saree. Gabby's spreading that rumor.

Speaker 1:
[32:00] But I think that he let himself be sort of like, everybody was able to dunk on him. And for most of Survivor, it's that Jeff is in such a position of power, the players are down here and that, you know, there's so much respect towards what he is as the umpire and the host and god of the show and for him to sort of like humble himself in front of the contestants, like I think it was a really fun moment. Everybody here was enjoying it. The players there were enjoying it.

Speaker 16:
[32:35] I think there's a moment, like when you're growing up, the first time you realize that maybe, I love my parents very much, that like they're fallible. They have flaws too. Love them more than anything. And there are so many times when Jeff is like this untouchable figure and I think it was very, very compelling that he put himself out there and did that.

Speaker 7:
[32:52] Yeah, well he also like occupied the space of the fans tonight. Like I felt like he went in there with that wonder and that excitement to participate, which we all feel watching. Like I think I could get up there and do that and he said it and he couldn't, which was a little embarrassing.

Speaker 16:
[33:06] Terrible.

Speaker 7:
[33:06] But it was fun.

Speaker 20:
[33:07] It's exciting.

Speaker 7:
[33:08] Like he's excited and he's a kooky guy. I mean, like my experience of Jeff when the cameras are off, like he's a little goofy like that. And so I was glad that we got to see that from him on camera this time.

Speaker 6:
[33:19] He also saw the absurdity of Gabler shouting every single person out in the challenge. When he brought it back, I'm like, oh, I know he thinks about it. He probably thinks about, I'm pissed as well too.

Speaker 5:
[33:29] Yes.

Speaker 7:
[33:30] He had all those queued up. Like he was going to go Gabler right away. Like if he had dropped in a minute too, he was-

Speaker 1:
[33:35] Never go full Gabler.

Speaker 5:
[33:38] Right?

Speaker 19:
[33:39] 100% Gabler. Dwight, where are you at?

Speaker 1:
[33:46] Okay. Let's talk about what's going on in the game right now. And it's really another week where Saree is able to- Everyone's excited.

Speaker 7:
[33:58] Incredible.

Speaker 1:
[34:00] Saree is able to really, you know, do whatever she wants really in this game. It was a great moment where she's talking about how all of her alliances and she's aligned with every single person that's on the beach right now. And she's going to decide which way she wants to go. I thought that she- And this was in the opening. She caught such a break. Marian, the tribal council, the live tribal council, I thought that by Rick and Christian playing that fake idol, that she was really able to hide. It was her move to take out Coach and Chrissy and she was able to get no blood on her hands for that.

Speaker 6:
[34:39] It was so perfect. You know, to go 20% gay, she just went right under.

Speaker 19:
[34:45] Not all the way down.

Speaker 6:
[34:49] It's that thing, it's a chaos as a ladder, you know? People were worried about Saree, Saree, Saree, and then Rick Devins, this is Rick Devins thing that we previously talked about and then now suddenly everyone hates Rick and not only that, no one cares about the public idols anymore. They care about this public-er idol who is even more because they're like, we just need to get Rick out and Saree's like, yeah, sure, whatever.

Speaker 19:
[35:10] Yeah, yeah, and I think that Saree is so good because if you look at Christian, he's had an amazing run. Shout out to Christian. He deserves everything he got. He is the best and he was controlling much of the season, but he made one key mistake of going to the wrong person about Ozzy, but Saree knows who to go to and who not to go to and she knew that Jonathan was exactly the right person and all props to Saree.

Speaker 7:
[35:39] That was insane. What was in the minds of the people who were going to Saree and saying Ozzy?

Speaker 6:
[35:44] What did they think the dynamic was?

Speaker 7:
[35:46] I genuinely don't understand.

Speaker 19:
[35:48] They only watched Micronesia.

Speaker 6:
[35:51] They are not working together.

Speaker 1:
[35:52] It's really wild and maybe Saree in her private conversations with them is really bad mouthing Ozzy because they were on the same starting tribe with Saree, but Ozzy was there too and I don't know why that they seem to think that Ozzy is on the bottom, Saree's not working with him and they just feel like Saree is locked in with them.

Speaker 6:
[36:12] I think it's a pattern we see in returning seasons because this also happened in Second Chances. No one knew that Tasha and Raymond, previously Spencer, were working together. Everyone thought they were just these two people on the season and it's really-

Speaker 19:
[36:27] Including your know it all.

Speaker 5:
[36:33] I don't know what you want me to do with that.

Speaker 6:
[36:37] Yeah and I think it's so interesting that you have Aubrey being like, I am not associated with Rick at all. They didn't even play together, right? They just were on edge together for a bit and that's it. Then no one cares about Suri and Ozzy who they've been playing together since the dawn of time.

Speaker 16:
[36:52] I think it's the main character energy and especially on this season where most of these people were the main character, one of the main characters on their season. It's very hard to empathize and think about what's Suri doing. They're like, oh, she's with me and they all think that. But what she's doing really well with her group is letting Devin take the lead, letting him be the main character, which is really hard when you've seen yourself on TV and you've seen the reception and she is so good at stepping back and letting other people be the main character of their own story knowing that she's playing survivor to win, not to make TV.

Speaker 1:
[37:25] Franny, in your season, there were three people that were kind of in the middle while the other sides were going back and forth.

Speaker 19:
[37:32] Is there any similarities?

Speaker 7:
[37:34] Yeah, I mean, I think there are in that, I was thinking about this when you were talking, Marianne, about Second Chances too. I think at the beginning of the season, you think a lot about, oh, who started on the same tribe, who maybe worked together in a previous season, and you take those relationships very seriously and put a lot of weight into them. But then suddenly you merge, you think you've got good rapport with somebody and then you just get so clouded by your relationship and you lose the weight of the relationships that existed before. That happened to me on my season. I was like, hey, Carson and Carolyn like me pretty good.

Speaker 10:
[38:07] They don't like that Jam Jam guy.

Speaker 4:
[38:09] Give it up for Jam Jam. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[38:14] But it's hard. It's hard. I mean, like when you have somebody.

Speaker 19:
[38:19] Was Jam Jam telling you what a threat Carolyn and Carson were or no?

Speaker 7:
[38:23] What a threat I was?

Speaker 19:
[38:24] No. Was he asking you how big of a threat Carolyn and Carson were? Is that why you were so threatened by Carolyn and Carson, Jam Jam? Okay.

Speaker 7:
[38:35] That's okay. There's a wavelength that I am not on. But yeah, it's hard. I think that especially when you're with somebody like Suri and even Ozzie, he's doing great socially this season, who can make you feel so comfortable. It's just so easy to forget the beginning relationships because that feels like so long ago. It's the starting bag of the game and you want to believe that everybody's flexible and makes new relationships. It's easy to get caught in that trap.

Speaker 1:
[39:02] All right. I want to complain about our friend Christian for a minute because I felt like that he had a golden opportunity. He becomes the only survivor ever to be able to vote for themselves. I didn't love what he did with his vote for himself, asking for an apology for Jimmy Fallon. I'd love if we could go down the panel and I'd love to hear everybody cast what they would say if they were going to vote for themselves.

Speaker 5:
[39:32] You want me to start?

Speaker 1:
[39:43] This kills me. It hurts me more than it hurts you.

Speaker 21:
[39:54] I had to do it.

Speaker 5:
[39:56] You're such a threat.

Speaker 1:
[39:57] This is why you're the greatest player to never win.

Speaker 6:
[40:05] You've been sitting on that all night.

Speaker 1:
[40:07] That was great. Vote for yourself, Marriott.

Speaker 6:
[40:12] Finally, we'll get some sleep on this island. All we do is hear you talk and laugh and talk and laugh. And finally, there will be some peace because you can't speak as a jury member. Love you and hope I get your vote.

Speaker 7:
[40:34] Franny, I'm voting for you, because there's a hot piece of ass waiting for you at Ponderosa.

Speaker 1:
[40:45] Get it, girl.

Speaker 19:
[40:49] Omi, you've built a career putting things down. It's time to do it to yourself.

Speaker 16:
[41:03] Kevin, I can hear your every thought, and I've had enough.

Speaker 4:
[41:14] Wow, this is great, great job, everybody.

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Anything else from the episode that any of you guys want to say here?

Speaker 19:
[41:24] I have two things to say. One, Mr. Rob. Jonathan did a great job tonight.

Speaker 4:
[41:29] How is Jonathan doing?

Speaker 19:
[41:30] He's really good. I thought that he did a great job tonight as well. You know, he really, Saree did start the ball, but that was in his best interest too, and I think we have to give him props for that. I think that might have been Jonathan's best move over two seasons. Would we agree on that? Oh, okay.

Speaker 6:
[41:44] No, I'm thinking about what he's done. I think it was good. And he finally got to do his stealing move he's wanted to do since our season.

Speaker 19:
[41:52] Yes, exactly. And then the other thing is... You guys a bit jealous?

Speaker 6:
[41:55] Actually, no, the longer he's there, the ego part of me is like, thank God, 42 is still relevant when he's here, you know?

Speaker 19:
[42:02] I'm not jealous of voting out Christian. Look at this, this tepid response to that. And then the other thing is that, if you look at Jimmy Fallon, you're like, fuck Jimmy Fallon, right, Gabby? Where are you at? Jimmy Fallon killed a national treasure in Christian. Billie Eilish killed a Canadian national treasure in Genevieve. Zach Brown, is that his name? Whatever. He killed our ears.

Speaker 1:
[42:30] Oh, I think you're going to say that fish, but no.

Speaker 19:
[42:32] Yeah, Zoom. Zoom killed Camilla, our queen. And what is Mr. Beast going to do? I'm not ready for it.

Speaker 7:
[42:40] Celebrities have to be stopped. This is out of control.

Speaker 1:
[42:45] Who killed Camilla?

Speaker 19:
[42:47] Zoom.

Speaker 4:
[42:48] Zoom.

Speaker 19:
[42:49] That's a corporation.

Speaker 4:
[42:52] The web conferencing tool. You said the zoo.

Speaker 19:
[42:57] More of a WebEx guy.

Speaker 7:
[42:57] Remember when they brought the zoo onto the episode?

Speaker 19:
[43:00] I'm on Teams.

Speaker 4:
[43:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:04] Teams is undefeated this season. All right. Franny and Omar and Kevin, thank you so much. Are we having fun so far, right?

Speaker 4:
[43:21] Yeah, yeah, still into it. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[43:26] We're due to have more people come, but it's like... Seems like the team is having a live tribal council. So, let me go back to Marianne. Okay. Oh, okay, are we ready? Okay, let's be joined by our contingent from Survivor 49 is here, it's Sophie B.,

Speaker 4:
[43:53] Jeremiah and Christina.

Speaker 11:
[44:01] I purposely didn't sit beside Sophie because last time I sat beside her, she voted me out, so.

Speaker 1:
[44:08] Kind of rude when you think about it. Yes. How's everybody doing?

Speaker 22:
[44:12] This is fun. I like Canada.

Speaker 4:
[44:14] Yes. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[44:16] Is this your first time here?

Speaker 22:
[44:18] It's not, but it's my first time with like a local.

Speaker 1:
[44:21] A local.

Speaker 22:
[44:21] Yeah, showing me the local things.

Speaker 1:
[44:23] Yeah, you're giving the tour.

Speaker 11:
[44:25] We went to Financial District, we went to the Gay District, it's my favorite. Where did we else go? Chinatown for foot massages.

Speaker 20:
[44:32] Chinatown, we got foot massages.

Speaker 11:
[44:34] Distillery.

Speaker 1:
[44:35] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[44:36] All right, well, let's talk about it.

Speaker 1:
[44:37] I guess the question for the 49ers is, boy, another week, Rizgad keeps moving through this.

Speaker 6:
[44:44] No, no, no, no, you have to say the full thing. We'll start with the man on the count of three. One, two, three. The man, the myth, the legend, R-I-C-G-O-D, Rizgad, baby.

Speaker 4:
[44:56] Wow. He, yes.

Speaker 20:
[45:00] He's keeping 49 relevant right now for us.

Speaker 1:
[45:03] Yes, yes. Now, Christina, I couldn't help but notice that you appeared to be covering your ears.

Speaker 4:
[45:09] Is that because it gets too loud?

Speaker 22:
[45:12] You know, we had, I had 24 days with him, so I love Rizzo so much, but I'm good on that. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[45:22] But you know what?

Speaker 1:
[45:23] It's interesting because I kind of like took from your season that the people that were coming on The Jury and I would do the exit interviews, people are like, yeah, we weren't really liking what he's putting down, but so far this season, I'm not really getting that from anybody in the 50 cast. It seems like that he's real. I don't know if he took something away from playing in 49, but it seems like that he's like universally beloved by the people that are out there.

Speaker 20:
[45:48] Yeah, he's also a power bottom, I think.

Speaker 1:
[45:50] Whoa.

Speaker 5:
[45:52] I didn't know that.

Speaker 11:
[45:53] Marianne, what is a power bottom? What is a power bottom?

Speaker 20:
[46:01] Yeah, he's doing great.

Speaker 22:
[46:03] Rizzo does a really good job when you're one-on-one. I remember on my season, I was like, Rizzo, you're kind of annoying. Then for the first time when I sat down and actually talked to him, I was like, you're actually really likeable. So I think he's doing a good job with the social piece there.

Speaker 1:
[46:20] Yeah. I know that we have some big Saree fans on the panel and in the audience. I'd love to get the perspective on what you've been most impressed by, whether she's been doing this season.

Speaker 20:
[46:35] I mean, everything. I feel like right now, she deserves to win out of everybody that's there. She's done the most. She's moved the most votes so far, and I feel like they didn't show that much of Rizzo, but they showed one clip before Tribal that made me think he might have been the reason why Christian left. So the Sir Rizard of Oz Alliance is doing pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[47:01] It did seem like that there was some movement towards Emily, and Rizzo was like, no, why are we doing that? We have to vote Christian. It's hard because we can't tell if it's just one conversation or what the whole day on the beach is like, but I feel like that the Jonathan, Stephanie, Joe people, I think that they really had their eyes set on Christian. They wanted a pound of flesh because they felt like that Christian lied in the live Tribal Council.

Speaker 6:
[47:28] But there's also something important as well with putting your foot down and having the social capital to do so without people getting annoyed that you're putting your foot down. And Rizzo, it was clear to me that he's like, I know we're going for Christian and Christian we're going for, but it seemed that he had the social capital where people were like, Rizzo really wants this and he's annoying. They're like, oh, okay. They were amenable to that. Even if the Emily movement was happening, he was fine swinging it back and it seems that they're not mad at him about it.

Speaker 22:
[47:55] Yeah. I think it's also when someone says a name that you secretly really want, it's also like, oh, okay, well, if someone else wants it, then now I can feel more confident like, okay, I'm going to write this down. So if the three of them wanted Christian and you have Rizzo saying like, well, what about Christian? Then you latch on to that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:12] Jeremiah, tell me that horoscope-wise, who do you think is looking good in season 50? Have you studied this yet?

Speaker 11:
[48:22] Who do I think is looking? No, I agree with you guys. Like, Suri, she's the queen. Is it her six-time plus, six-time?

Speaker 1:
[48:28] Fifth-time US survivor, yes.

Speaker 11:
[48:30] US survivor, okay.

Speaker 1:
[48:31] Jeremy says five-and-a-half times of survivor.

Speaker 11:
[48:37] Yeah, so I think Suri is killing it right now. I actually think Rizzo is actually doing really well. So I feel like he's blended in with all of the icons, and I feel like he's flying under the radar, and everyone seems to really enjoy him.

Speaker 20:
[48:51] I do think it's crazy that him and Ozzy have public idols, but they're all looking at Devin's, and his is fake. So that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[48:58] Yeah. Marianne, I think that there's something to be said with the new era, where I really think that you played, listen, I can go on and on and on, but you played your idols so perfectly in your season, where you really showed that the best move you could make in the new era is to have the idol that's a secret, and be able to hold it up at the end. I didn't even need to use this. And for people who are making these big shows, the other players don't like it.

Speaker 6:
[49:31] Yeah, I think it also is important to say that they, those idols were de facto public idols, right? So for Rizzo and Ozzy, everybody had their idol, but in future things, you almost did it with the, and this sounds really shady, I'm so sorry, but with the, with the knowledge of power, where it's like you have, no, it's all good. You did the best, you have the information.

Speaker 22:
[49:55] We are one season away. We still have PTSD.

Speaker 6:
[49:57] Yeah, that's why I said, that's why I said, but I think it's like a lot of times, especially like you, depending on how flash, if you're going to be flashy, it can't just be flashy for flash. There's got to be substance too, you know? So it's like, if you're for, Rick Devins, I don't know why I brain farted there. For Rick, if he goes, gets flashy with this idol, be like, I got it, ha ha ha ha, and it actually was a real idol, and then he played it, or he played it and it was fake, and he said, I did this to move my folks on me. I think people would be less annoyed than if he did this big thing, and in their mind, he now has this real idol, right? Or like when I went, told my idol in the end, it had flash about like, this is it, this is it, ha ha ha, but now the idol is done, it's dead. So there was a purpose to the flash.

Speaker 1:
[50:41] Yeah, and I think that that's probably part of the reason why people were frustrated with Rizzo in your season, right? Because he would always have the idol like, maybe I'm going to play it, maybe I'm not going to play it. Like people don't like that.

Speaker 22:
[50:54] Yeah, I don't know if it flew well with the jury.

Speaker 1:
[50:58] But this time he has an idol, and he's not really like flashing it to everybody. It's just like, okay, people know he has the Billie Eilish boomerang idol, and if anything, he's trying to make people forget that he hasn't.

Speaker 22:
[51:10] But I think that's good. It talks to Rizzo adapting to the situation as well. I think that he's a super fan. He can tell you the final three of every single season. So I think that him really reading the people that he's playing with, I think he realizes he can't do that. He's already playing with a jury that's what primarily OGs. So I think this is a really good social read on him.

Speaker 11:
[51:36] Christina, I've never asked you this question, but how long did you hide your idol in your hair for? Tell us about that.

Speaker 22:
[51:44] Two seconds, I put that in here when I was voting.

Speaker 11:
[51:50] Where did you hide it throughout? Did you hide it in your backpack, in your pocket?

Speaker 22:
[51:53] I hid it in my bra and then I also hid it in my bag, but somebody on this stage went through my bag and found it. But we're on season 50, right?

Speaker 20:
[52:03] Where did you hide your idol?

Speaker 6:
[52:05] I hid it in my bag and then going to Tribal.

Speaker 22:
[52:12] Yes.

Speaker 6:
[52:14] I would loop it in my underwear and like a tampon string. So if anyone saw it, no one would ask about it if they saw a string. Then I would then put it in my pocket for Tribal.

Speaker 22:
[52:30] That's amazing. And that's why you're the winner of Survivor 42.

Speaker 11:
[52:35] I just have to say for anybody, for any future players, I would suggest to always keep your shot in the dark in your pocket or like in your sock. Because sometimes when you're at Tribal Council and you can kind of feel as though things are like going down a slippery slope, but then you have your shot in the dark in your backpack, and you are kind of like, I don't want to cause a scene and pull my shot in the dark out of my backpack. So always keep it in your pocket when you're going to Tribal Council.

Speaker 1:
[53:00] Yeah, it's sort of an awkward moment when you're like, I just need to get something, you know what? I need to check, did I pack everything? Feeling very like, I might go home. Yeah, all right, I've got one more panel to get to here tonight. Anything else from the 49ers?

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Speaker 22:
[53:36] And on that note.

Speaker 1:
[53:38] Okay. All right. Thank you so much, Sophie, Xena and Jeremiah. All right.

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Speaker 1:
[56:37] And then, let me see, we have our next panel here. Here we go. Here is Dwight and Caleb and Brandon. Yes.

Speaker 10:
[56:53] Can I say something?

Speaker 1:
[56:54] Please.

Speaker 10:
[56:55] So, we got Mary Ann, Dwight, me, Brandon. There's so much melanin on the stage right now. Like 10 out of 10. What a panel.

Speaker 1:
[57:06] What a panel.

Speaker 25:
[57:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:08] Dwight, how are you doing?

Speaker 25:
[57:09] Doing great, man.

Speaker 1:
[57:10] Yeah. Were you excited to see the Gabler challenge? Get a shout out tonight.

Speaker 25:
[57:16] You know, I saw that challenge, and I was wondering if anyone was going to reference the Gabler again. And the fact that Jeff brought it up all people, I was like, oh dear God, we're going through this again. Because I remember getting out of the challenge, I'm like, how long is Gabler going to keep doing this for? There's no way. And then it goes on and on and on. We're shouting out states and people's cats and their dogs and their babysitter and their aunt from like Kentucky. I don't know anymore. So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:42] Yeah, your season though really was a turning point for that challenge. I don't think it really became iconic until that season. And now it's kind of like a new era staple where they do it almost every single season and it's become like a whole thing.

Speaker 25:
[57:56] Yeah, I saw the challenge and I was excited to do it and I realized how bad I was at it. So I'm kind of glad it's a staple now because I can see people do worse than me at it, which makes me feel a little bit better. I think Jeff did worse than me. Hopefully, I don't really know. So I need to ask how long I'd last than that one. But it was fun. It's fun to see a recurring thing now this.

Speaker 1:
[58:13] Yeah. Marianne, I just want to know from you, did you make rice in your season?

Speaker 25:
[58:18] No.

Speaker 1:
[58:19] They didn't have any?

Speaker 6:
[58:20] I think it was Tory and Lindsay. Lindsay was the big rice maker. Yes, but we did get rice.

Speaker 1:
[58:26] Was there fights over the portions?

Speaker 6:
[58:29] No. We did it by seashells. I don't know where they got the mug. And people had a process and I didn't really care about what it was. It was food, you know?

Speaker 1:
[58:40] Yeah. I just feel like if you have it, just eat it. You don't know how many people are going to be left. It's like day 18. There's like seven days left. There's going to be only a couple of people there soon. Just eat the rice. All right. Brandon, what did you make of all this tonight?

Speaker 21:
[58:55] I really liked the montage of Jeff yelling at people.

Speaker 25:
[58:59] Yes.

Speaker 21:
[59:01] Nobody has ever been more thrilled to not be included while I'm doing my job. Would have gassed the night out, but it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:
[59:08] Yeah. Jeff didn't trash talk you when you were trying to get back onto the boat, right?

Speaker 25:
[59:14] No.

Speaker 21:
[59:15] He had empathy at that point. But I think within 48 hours from them, he was kind of like...

Speaker 1:
[59:20] Yeah. Because I think in the montage, all of the shots that they showed of Jeff were all like young Jeff from like the teens and 20s of Survivor.

Speaker 25:
[59:31] Yeah.

Speaker 21:
[59:31] We had an Alicia Rosa mention. Exactly. That's appropriate. And then we had, I guess, a couple others.

Speaker 1:
[59:38] There was a multiple from one world. It was like, I guess that might have been one of Jeff's most crankiest seasons.

Speaker 21:
[59:45] Can I also...

Speaker 1:
[59:46] Who would have thought? Who would have thought?

Speaker 21:
[59:48] Can I also say, can I go through, can we go through together, community, the people that Jeff shouted out doing the challenge? Because I think it's a wide array of people.

Speaker 1:
[59:56] Sure.

Speaker 21:
[59:56] Ends with his mom, which is very, very nice. We start with a woman who does the laundry, is what he says. Unclear.

Speaker 1:
[60:04] I thought that was his daughter.

Speaker 10:
[60:05] Quick on the clip.

Speaker 21:
[60:07] What, he said his daughter who does the laundry?

Speaker 1:
[60:10] I think that the thing that he says previously to that is like Gaebler and he shouted out his kids. And so I'm going to do that. And I thought the first person he said, I assumed, I think that that was one of his kids.

Speaker 21:
[60:23] Oh, I heard somebody who does the laundry.

Speaker 1:
[60:26] I took it as he has a child who does a lot of laundry.

Speaker 21:
[60:31] Listen, and then we get, we get Zach Brown.

Speaker 1:
[60:35] Yes.

Speaker 21:
[60:36] Next to whoever does the laundry in the sequential league of importance. And then we get Coach Ralston, little league baseball coach.

Speaker 1:
[60:45] Yeah.

Speaker 21:
[60:46] Which sounds like an idol phrase that perhaps you had to read at some point. And then we get to, I think that might be it.

Speaker 1:
[60:53] He said the state of Kansas.

Speaker 21:
[60:55] Kansas, and shout out to everybody from Kansas here.

Speaker 1:
[60:59] Fiji Airways.

Speaker 10:
[61:00] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[61:01] Thank you.

Speaker 10:
[61:03] Shout out Billy Eilish, am I right? Yeah. Solidarity. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[61:13] Do you think Jeff almost...

Speaker 10:
[61:14] Out of the celebrity twist so far, Jimmy Fallon is my favorite. You're not going to do Genevieve like that. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[61:25] Marianne, what are you saying?

Speaker 6:
[61:26] I was going to say, do you think Jeff almost shouted out Mr. Beast, but realized, oh no, that's tomorrow. Shout out, what's his birth name?

Speaker 1:
[61:33] Jimmy Donaldson.

Speaker 6:
[61:34] Jeremy?

Speaker 5:
[61:36] Jimmy.

Speaker 6:
[61:36] Oh, he's also Jimmy.

Speaker 21:
[61:37] He's also Jimmy.

Speaker 6:
[61:39] Maybe he almost messed up and did both the Jimmies. Shout out to G, Jesus.

Speaker 5:
[61:44] Yes.

Speaker 21:
[61:53] There's a couple people who would have been thrilled with the Jesus mention, I think, in that challenge.

Speaker 10:
[61:57] Mr. JF. Hey, honor and integrity, right?

Speaker 1:
[62:07] Caleb, are you annoyed that the survivors are just passing around these shot in the darks and not using them like God intended them?

Speaker 10:
[62:20] I will say the first thing I noticed when Christian was passing around Jonathan's shot in the dark was the hand size discrepancy. I don't know if anyone else has to relook at it, but what a mitt that that guy has. And then Christian's got like the pianist fingers. So in short, it was kind of, I was shocked when Jonathan gave it back.

Speaker 1:
[62:47] Yeah, was that a nice moment?

Speaker 10:
[62:48] You know how good that is?

Speaker 1:
[62:49] Yeah.

Speaker 21:
[62:51] Can he still, though, can he use it?

Speaker 1:
[62:52] He can, right?

Speaker 5:
[62:54] Who?

Speaker 6:
[62:56] Jonathan?

Speaker 5:
[62:56] Yeah, Jonathan could still use the shot in the dark, right?

Speaker 25:
[62:59] I think they're attached to the player.

Speaker 6:
[63:00] Oh, they're now non-transferable.

Speaker 25:
[63:02] I'm pretty sure they are.

Speaker 6:
[63:03] Were they non-transferable for you?

Speaker 5:
[63:04] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[63:05] Ours were transferable.

Speaker 1:
[63:07] Yeah, I think they, we talked about this, and I feel like that you waited on it also. Now, I'm like doubting myself. But I asked Rachel on chat BCC, and she said they were transferable, and I think that you just, you can't use two the same night.

Speaker 6:
[63:24] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[63:25] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[63:25] I feel as if they were transferable. We had questions about if we could use multiple shots, and they said no.

Speaker 1:
[63:30] This was Jury Pandering by Jonathan.

Speaker 10:
[63:35] Can we write some fan fiction?

Speaker 1:
[63:36] Yeah, I would, let's start it. Yeah, what's the fan fiction?

Speaker 10:
[63:40] So, I...

Speaker 1:
[63:41] It's not like Fifty Shades fan fiction, because we don't do that.

Speaker 10:
[63:45] Okay, I have a different fan fiction then.

Speaker 1:
[63:47] Okay.

Speaker 10:
[63:50] Okay, one of the, so obviously, everyone here is a big fan of Tony Cagayan.

Speaker 25:
[63:56] Okay, sure.

Speaker 10:
[63:58] Yeah, when he goes to the other camp, and he gives Jeremiah the fake clue in front of everybody to put a target on his back.

Speaker 1:
[64:04] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[64:05] And I was thinking, man, it would be so sick if he comes back to camp with Christian's paper wrapped around his idol, saying, I have to give this idol to somebody, and gives it to somebody else in front of everybody. That would have been a fun way to put a target on someone else's back with a fake idol.

Speaker 6:
[64:22] But then he would have had to do two different things. That's, I think that might have worked if it was a secret that he had to vote himself, right? So he comes to camp and has a story, but-

Speaker 10:
[64:32] Rick Devins, I mean.

Speaker 6:
[64:33] Oh, Devins. Oh.

Speaker 10:
[64:34] With his idol.

Speaker 6:
[64:35] Yeah, yeah, that could work.

Speaker 10:
[64:36] Ah, you know. It's always hard, because you never, like, it's, we have all the time in the world to brainstorm.

Speaker 1:
[64:43] Sure.

Speaker 10:
[64:43] So, no, no, but I was like, that would have been so sick to like, hey, Jonathan, I have to give this to somebody. I thought I'd give it to you and just see what happens.

Speaker 6:
[64:53] I don't think that would turn out well.

Speaker 5:
[64:59] Nice, nice.

Speaker 1:
[65:01] Okay. Caleb started writing things. I was thinking that we could, we could do some creative writing here with this team, with this panel here. And you know, that Jimmy Fallon on his show, one of the things he likes to do is he likes to write thank you notes to people. And I thought that maybe we could write some thank you notes to the people, the participants in Survivor for entertaining us yet again here tonight. Are we, are we, are we, are we able to do that?

Speaker 5:
[65:36] Could we, could we, could we, let me, let me see.

Speaker 1:
[65:43] Thank you, Emily Flippin for not keeping the secret recipe for making rice.

Speaker 5:
[65:55] Okay.

Speaker 21:
[65:58] We need more energy for the jokes.

Speaker 5:
[66:00] Yeah.

Speaker 21:
[66:01] We need more energy for the jokes.

Speaker 5:
[66:02] All right. All right. Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[66:05] I think the music is getting a little loud also. It's just like a backdrop. Thank you to the sound team. Thank you to Jonathan's pants for teaching us that you can work together if you're not cut from the same cloth. Because it's many different cloths that come together to make Jonathan's pants.

Speaker 4:
[66:37] All right.

Speaker 1:
[66:38] Are you, you want more?

Speaker 4:
[66:42] All right.

Speaker 1:
[66:43] Thank, thank you to Rizgad Socks. Thank you to Rizgad Socks for being always more high than Ozzy was on 420.

Speaker 4:
[67:04] Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:
[67:05] Shout out to Zayn. Yeah. Uh, thank you, Zach Brown. For not effing over any of our faves with your... You only screwed the fans.

Speaker 5:
[67:26] Okay, last one, last one, last one.

Speaker 1:
[67:29] For everybody here, thank you, Drake, for making big strides to abolish ice.

Speaker 4:
[67:41] That's a Toronto joke. That's how you good people get it.

Speaker 5:
[67:51] All right.

Speaker 1:
[67:54] What else, Mary Ann?

Speaker 22:
[67:56] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6:
[67:57] Those were good thank yous. This was a sad episode. You know what? I would say it was a sad episode, but still a good episode. Do people agree?

Speaker 1:
[68:06] It was a good episode.

Speaker 6:
[68:07] Like, 50 overall hasn't, other than when I, for some reason, started watching Bear Grillis for a second with Zac Brown and some wilderness show, it's been great. I've been really happy, really good. Anything else from you guys?

Speaker 21:
[68:29] No, I Bear Grillis through everything that I had on.

Speaker 25:
[68:32] I did not follow that up.

Speaker 21:
[68:34] I had five thoughts before Bear Grillis, but I'll pass back over.

Speaker 1:
[68:38] It was a sad night, but we were all here together to be part of it. And that's what it's about here in the survivor community.

Speaker 21:
[68:47] It's true.

Speaker 1:
[68:49] We lose our faves, we mourn together. We'll be back next Wednesday.

Speaker 6:
[68:55] I wonder about how Dee was in Ponderosa for this one day with Coach and Chrissy.

Speaker 25:
[69:02] This is why we need Ponderosa videos, guys.

Speaker 6:
[69:05] I know. This is why we need Ponderosa, because I really wanted to see who, what, when, where, why, how in that.

Speaker 10:
[69:13] Do you think the Coach is having the Dragons part too?

Speaker 1:
[69:17] Well, can we talk about that? Did anybody notice Coach's jury silver suit? Looks like he's gonna host Deal or No Deal at some point.

Speaker 21:
[69:30] And not for anything. If you go back and watch it, they do like the tight shot in the jury members as they do every episode, and they go right to Coach. Chrissy's face is half in it. She's not, go back and watch. It's an unfortunate editing choice. It's very intentional, but they go right on Coach. And how could you not when he's wearing a Christmas ornament, that's special?

Speaker 10:
[69:51] I will say, the survivors had a lot of impact on the traders having so many great players there, and the traders starting to have a little bit of impact on Survivor in the jury outfits.

Speaker 1:
[69:59] In the jury, yeah.

Speaker 10:
[70:00] I mean, people are looking hot.

Speaker 1:
[70:03] But I think the actual suit at Tribal Council, I don't think I've ever seen a player wear a suit in Tribal Council on a jury. He wore a vest with no shirt on.

Speaker 21:
[70:15] It's one-eighth of a suit.

Speaker 4:
[70:16] It's the opposite of a suit.

Speaker 1:
[70:20] He was more wearing a birthday suit than a suit. All right. Well, I hate that our time here on the stage is coming to an end. We had so much fun tonight, but there'll be some more fun after this for many of us here tonight. Marianne, any final thoughts?

Speaker 6:
[70:38] Oh my gosh. My only thing which I'm thinking of is that Mr. Beast's super beware advantage. Yes. I don't know how to feel about it, but I'm an optimist and I'm hopefully expectant. That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1:
[70:55] That's all we have to say.

Speaker 21:
[70:56] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[70:57] Anything else from the panel?

Speaker 21:
[71:00] We can ask him about it right now. Mr. Beast, come on out. He's not here. He's busy.

Speaker 8:
[71:06] He's busy?

Speaker 21:
[71:07] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[71:08] All right.

Speaker 1:
[71:09] Well, this was such an incredible live show. This is one...

Speaker 4:
[71:13] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[71:26] I don't know if we're supposed to do that. You know, I have a book coming out. It's called The Tribe and I Have Spoken, and I talked about so many of your favorite Survivor players, all the great moments. I wish I could have written about Jeff doing the challenge. We'll always remember where we were for that. And it's the story of 25 years of Survivor, and I can't wait for all of you to check it out. And it's going to be out in two weeks. So if you like that type of thing, Rob has a book.com.

Speaker 10:
[72:03] Welcome to the new era, right? 14 days.

Speaker 1:
[72:07] Yeah. Yeah, in just one new era pre-merge, the book will be here. Okay. Thank you to everybody here at the Winter Garden Theater. You were incredible to work with. And I have to shout out, Sam Moore, wave hi. Derek also behind the scenes. We have an incredible team that puts on these live shows. And so I can't do it without them. Thank you. Thank you all so much. Thank you for being here. Everybody has been so nice to me here. We got to come back.

Speaker 5:
[72:47] Should we come back? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[72:52] All right, run it back. We'll be back in Toronto.

Speaker 4:
[72:56] Thank you, everybody.

Speaker 1:
[72:57] Good night.

Speaker 4:
[73:01] Thanks, everybody.

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