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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dax Shepard, and I'm joined by Buck Rogers. Hello. Today we have crazy bar stories. Bars are very fertile grounds.
Speaker 2:
[00:10] I mean, nothing, well, I shouldn't say nothing good happens.
Speaker 1:
[00:14] Don't people find their soulmates at bars?
Speaker 3:
[00:16] Me cute.
Speaker 1:
[00:17] Yes, but alas, that's not these types of stories. You know, we have every version of depravity happening. So please enjoy crazy bar stories.
Speaker 3:
[00:47] You guys see me?
Speaker 1:
[00:49] We can see you, we can hear you. What is this sound dampening you've put up? Are those trifold mattresses? What are those?
Speaker 3:
[00:55] No, it's a nugget. I don't know if you guys know what those are. It's for kids. You can basically make little shapes for them to climb on. Each one is about 18 inches thick.
Speaker 1:
[01:04] They're big cubes.
Speaker 2:
[01:06] That's fine.
Speaker 1:
[01:07] Oh, wow. Where are you, Justin?
Speaker 3:
[01:09] I'm in Central Wisconsin right now.
Speaker 1:
[01:11] When did you move there?
Speaker 3:
[01:12] I moved here about three years ago, I'd say.
Speaker 1:
[01:14] From where?
Speaker 3:
[01:15] Minneapolis, where the story takes place.
Speaker 1:
[01:17] Okay. You have a bar story. Please walk us through it.
Speaker 3:
[01:21] All right. To set the stage, this is back in December of 2018. I was working in downtown Minneapolis as a head of security, and I was head of security for about six months at the time at a bar. At that time, it was more of like a college place where kids would come from the U of M and go party. So it was pretty busy. I broke up a lot of fights, literally almost daily. One time I had to go to the hospital due to another injury.
Speaker 1:
[01:42] Can I ask really quick two questions? How common is it to have to have a head of security? Is that just because it was a college town, do you think, or is that common in Minneapolis?
Speaker 3:
[01:51] It's pretty common.
Speaker 1:
[01:52] Oh, okay. And then second, how do you qualify for the job? What's the interview like? How are they determining whether or not you can handle your business?
Speaker 3:
[01:58] They've seen me before. I've broken up quite a lot of fights.
Speaker 1:
[02:01] Okay, great, great.
Speaker 3:
[02:02] So one night at about 2.30 in the morning after the bars closed, me and one of my security guards, we take one of the barricades and we're gonna go around the building to put it into the garage where we put all the barricades and heat lamps. When we go around the corner, I see two men punching one woman.
Speaker 1:
[02:18] Oh my god. Oh boy. Oh boy.
Speaker 3:
[02:20] I hesitated for a second because I remember my boss constantly told us, do not break up fights that are outside because liability issues, only do it inside. But I'm not gonna let two men beat up a woman. So I dropped the barricade and I ran over there and tried to pull off one of the guys. He tried to punch me, but I was sober and he definitely was not. So I kind of just stepped back. He missed. I kicked him in the stomach and I punched him in the face and I pushed him over. My other security guard went over there and held him there for a minute. And then I turned to the other guy. He has a handful of her shirt just holding it and he's about to punch. And he kind of looks to my way and he sees me and he starts going towards me to punch. And I saw that coming. So I put my head down and he hit right on the top. So I don't know if you know that would hurt him a lot.
Speaker 1:
[03:03] Yeah, his hand's broken for sure.
Speaker 3:
[03:05] Definitely. Yeah. After that, he can let go of her. I punched him two more times. I used my left hand and the temple and then I hit him right below the nose. I also heard something crack. Oh, okay. He goes down and he has blood everywhere. He's looking at me and I see that he's missing a tooth. So that was the crack. So I turned to the girl and I say, we should go and I'll never forget the way she looked at me. She turns to me and she has two swollen eyes. She's looking at me and she goes, I want to stay here with my boyfriend.
Speaker 2:
[03:33] Oh, that makes me so sad.
Speaker 3:
[03:37] Yeah. I didn't quite know what to say to that. I felt really bad but then I look over and I see my boss, he's outside the door and he's like, get back in here Justin right now. I told her I was going to go call the police so I ran in there and I get my phone. I called 911 and I talked to them and they said they were going to come away. When I got off the phone, I looked out there and all three of them were gone. I had quite an adrenaline rush so I couldn't really feel my body at the time. One of my coworkers said, hey, you're chipping blood off your hand. I looked down and I have about a half inch cut on my knuckle and I'm like, oh great. I go find the first aid kit which is empty. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to put some cold water in this. Another coworker said, you should probably go to the hospital because getting saliva or something like that.
Speaker 2:
[04:20] Yeah, you could go rancid. You could get that cat disease.
Speaker 3:
[04:23] So I ended up going to HTMC, which is the Hennepin County Medical Center. I got there, it was pretty busy. After about, let's say, an hour or so, I got to see a doctor. They washed it out for me a little bit and then they gave me two different antibiotics because I'm allergic to amoxicillin. They not nearly sent me home but they drew a circle on my hand. They said, if it gets past this, you need to come back. I go home and go to sleep and when I wake up at about 11 o'clock in the morning, I can feel my hand is throbbing. It feels like I could feel my heartbeat in it. It was pretty bad to look at it and the circle was down low, but the infection was higher.
Speaker 1:
[05:00] Had gone up past your wrist?
Speaker 3:
[05:02] Yeah, only about eight hours after all that happened.
Speaker 1:
[05:04] Oh my God, what was he carrying? A rabies.
Speaker 3:
[05:06] I wish he was drinking more alcohol, it might have disinfected. Yeah. I decided to go back to the hospital and when I walked into the door, to the left was the emergency room, to the right was urgent care. I was like, I'm going to go to urgent care because the emergency room is packed right now. I walked in there and I talked to a nurse and she's getting all my information and I told her I was there earlier today, technically. She looks at my hand and she goes, oh, and she drops everything and she brings me into the emergency room and then I get to the top of the list. So I go in right away. When I see a doctor, he looks at it and he goes, okay, you're probably going to need surgery. What? Whoa. So they got me hooked up on IV antibiotics and a little bit later, I had a surgeon come in and talk to me and he looks at it and he goes, okay, so this is what we're going to do and we're going to put you under. You're probably going to stay here for a night or two. About an hour later, they bring me down to get surgery. I think the surgery is about an hour and a half. When I woke up, the surgeon was there and he was talking to me. He goes, you're very lucky that you came in when you did because you could have had a finger or your hand amputated from how bad it was infected. I sent pictures.
Speaker 1:
[06:11] So wait, they went in there and they actually had to cut out the infection. I thought you were about to tell me they extracted the tooth from your hand.
Speaker 4:
[06:18] Oh, gosh.
Speaker 3:
[06:20] Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:
[06:20] The tooth lodged in his hand.
Speaker 3:
[06:22] Oh, that would have been horrible. He probably swallowed it.
Speaker 2:
[06:26] Wait. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[06:26] So they cut out.
Speaker 3:
[06:28] You can see the pictures.
Speaker 1:
[06:28] Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3:
[06:29] They kind of cut it. It looks like an S sort of.
Speaker 6:
[06:31] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[06:32] It looks real gross, like it's going to pop with infection.
Speaker 3:
[06:35] So the first one, then you have right after I got the circle on my hand. And then the other two were after the surgery.
Speaker 6:
[06:41] Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:
[06:43] Did they tell you? Did they send tissue samples away and then tell you what the infection? I mean, I guess it doesn't matter, but I'm so curious. What was it?
Speaker 3:
[06:52] I'm not sure. I didn't even ask that. It was very painful. As you can see in one of the pictures, it looks like they kind of forgot some of the gauze and they kept it in there, but that was kind of like a wick to get rid of.
Speaker 2:
[07:00] Oh, keep sucking up.
Speaker 3:
[07:02] Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[07:02] It's hanging. Look, Monica, it's hanging out of the-
Speaker 2:
[07:05] I saw.
Speaker 1:
[07:05] Yeah, you don't like to stare at it.
Speaker 2:
[07:06] I don't need to keep looking.
Speaker 3:
[07:08] The most painful part was when they removed that. I thought it was just going to be like half an inch. There is probably an inch and a half or something and you pulled it out quick. He goes, this is going to hurt.
Speaker 1:
[07:19] Did you examine it when it came out? I would really want to see what was happening on that.
Speaker 3:
[07:22] Yeah, it was very bloody.
Speaker 2:
[07:24] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[07:25] I called my boss after that and I told him, I'm probably going to be here for a few days. He asked me if it was going to be workers' comp and I said, oh yeah, that'll be workers' comp. He was pretty upset about that. I returned to work about a week later. I was told to do a safety briefing for all the security guards. This is how you break up a fight and this is where you break up a fight, not outside.
Speaker 2:
[07:47] What were you going to do? Not as your job, like as just a person.
Speaker 3:
[07:51] Yeah, they were actually going to fire me, but a few of my co-workers, female ones said that they were going to quit if they did that.
Speaker 1:
[07:58] Okay, now this willingness and appetite to get involved in chaos, I want to know how much the red hair plays into it. I don't know if you've ever heard my theories on redheads.
Speaker 3:
[08:07] We have a temper.
Speaker 1:
[08:10] I have a few rules you don't fight. You don't fight a guy at a stoplight who when he gets out, he casually takes his shirt off. Not to show off, but he's ruined so many shirts that he's learned, just move on, get back in your car. In general, a married guy at the bar, just don't mess with, he's been holding a lot in. Then I don't care what size the redhead is, just keep it moving. I've seen a lot of little redheads in junior high and high school get the best of somebody.
Speaker 3:
[08:35] My friends, they'd say I ginger-stamped. I also have martial arts experience. I got my black belt and karate and some stuff in the military too. The entire thing from when I saw them to him going down, covering his mouth was about 10 seconds. It happened very fast.
Speaker 2:
[08:52] I wonder what was in his mouth.
Speaker 1:
[08:54] He had been eating someone that had flesh-eating bacteria.
Speaker 2:
[08:58] He's a cannibal.
Speaker 3:
[09:00] I took down a zombie.
Speaker 1:
[09:02] How much longer did you have that job?
Speaker 3:
[09:05] Probably for another five or six months. The month before that happened, I also had to go into the hospital due to a slight fracture in my elbow. I was trying to harass some of the waiters and waitresses and stuff like that, and I tried to escort him out. He tried to punch me, so I put him in a rear naked choke, and right then, I kind of fell forward, and his weight and my weight landed on the tip of my elbow. You'd think I would have learned.
Speaker 2:
[09:30] Well, again, I don't know what you're supposed to do when you walk up on that.
Speaker 1:
[09:34] No, you got it. It's time to get down. Of course, I'm having a lot of envy listening to this. This is a job I would have loved to have had.
Speaker 2:
[09:39] I know you are.
Speaker 3:
[09:40] I loved it.
Speaker 1:
[09:41] Yeah, yeah. Aaron ran a bar for 10 years and he didn't have security. He was the security and the owner of the bartender. Yeah, and he got to see a lot of action. I was always quite jealous. Well, Justin, I'm glad that there are people wired like you and I. That would intervene in a situation like that. And then, of course, I'm heartbroken by the girl who wants to stay with the guy.
Speaker 2:
[09:57] It's so upsetting. But also, there's a lot of stats around that. She would have been killed probably if she did not say that or do that. It's a really horrible situation. I don't have any answers. But it's, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[10:12] Can I do a shout out?
Speaker 2:
[10:13] Of course.
Speaker 3:
[10:13] My significant other, Sarah, she was supposed to be here to watch her son while I was doing this. But I got the times wrong. I forgot it was Pacific Time.
Speaker 5:
[10:21] Oh, sure.
Speaker 3:
[10:22] Central Time. She's the one that told me to submit it. She's the one that got me to start listening years ago. And I think Monica would really like her because you guys have a very similar personality, but she's also a physical therapist.
Speaker 5:
[10:32] Oh, I would love her.
Speaker 2:
[10:34] I just add her to my PT collection.
Speaker 1:
[10:37] PT club.
Speaker 3:
[10:38] The two other people would be our friends, Amber and Ethan. They're the ones that got us to start listening to your podcast.
Speaker 1:
[10:43] Oh, thank you Amber and Ethan.
Speaker 5:
[10:45] Yes, we appreciate all of that.
Speaker 1:
[10:47] Keep converting people Amber and Ethan.
Speaker 3:
[10:49] I have a lot of people who are going to start listening because I was like, I'm going to be on there.
Speaker 2:
[10:52] Oh, fun.
Speaker 1:
[10:54] Well, it's great meeting you, Justin.
Speaker 3:
[10:56] It's good meeting you too.
Speaker 1:
[10:57] Yeah, congrats on your family. I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3:
[10:59] Thank you.
Speaker 1:
[11:00] All right, take care.
Speaker 2:
[11:01] Bye. Are you so happy we have such a tough listener?
Speaker 1:
[11:05] Yeah, but also so sweet. Could you hear his sweetness? That's what I love. I doubt he's starting a lot of fights, but he's finishing them when they need finishing. Hello. Hi. Is this Casey?
Speaker 6:
[11:15] Yes, Casey.
Speaker 1:
[11:16] Nice to meet you. Casey, where are you?
Speaker 6:
[11:18] Dax, I know you like to guess, so maybe you want to take a guess from my accent.
Speaker 1:
[11:22] Here's what's going to happen. I already know what I'm down to. It's just down to two.
Speaker 2:
[11:25] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[11:26] I know if I get it wrong, both parties would be very offended, but I'm going to New Zealand on this one.
Speaker 2:
[11:31] Me too.
Speaker 6:
[11:31] I'm in South Africa.
Speaker 1:
[11:35] Triple wrong. Who's offended now?
Speaker 2:
[11:37] Everyone.
Speaker 6:
[11:38] It's pretty close. It gets mistaken now and then anyways.
Speaker 1:
[11:41] What city are you in down there?
Speaker 6:
[11:43] Johannesburg.
Speaker 1:
[11:44] Okay. What's the vibe in Johannesburg? I've never been.
Speaker 6:
[11:46] Johannesburg's got the friendliest people, I would say. Have you been to Cape Town?
Speaker 1:
[11:50] No. I've only been to Tanzania and Kenya and Uganda.
Speaker 6:
[11:54] Cape Town is beautiful as well, but Johannesburg is way friendlier.
Speaker 1:
[11:57] Okay. So you've got a bar story.
Speaker 6:
[12:00] Yeah. So let me set the scene. I was in my early 20s, like 19, 20 thereabouts.
Speaker 1:
[12:07] What's the drinking age down there?
Speaker 6:
[12:08] 18. By the time we're 21, we're veterans. I'd moved up to Johannesburg probably like a year before that from my hometown in George, very small coastal town. So small city to big city, getting used to the vibe in Johannesburg. By this time, I've got a nice group of friends and we're starting to go out and meet people and whatnot. The story starts off at a braai. It's basically a barbecue.
Speaker 1:
[12:32] I love starting something off with a barbecue.
Speaker 2:
[12:34] Yeah, that's really fun.
Speaker 6:
[12:35] I went there with my cousin and I ended up meeting this couple there. Thought nothing of it. A couple of weeks later or a couple of months later, I don't exactly the time, I saw that the girl from this couple ended up being single and I decided to slide into the DMs.
Speaker 1:
[12:51] Okay, lovely.
Speaker 6:
[12:51] After some time, we ended up dating. So that's like the precursor to the story. So after a few months of dating, we decided to go out one night. We went to Hooters, so we also have Hooters here.
Speaker 1:
[13:03] I'm very happy to hear that you have Hooters.
Speaker 5:
[13:05] Hooters is very international.
Speaker 1:
[13:07] They have the best fried chicken sandwich. I maintain that.
Speaker 6:
[13:10] I enjoy their wings. Anyway, so leading up to this, the ex of hers was messaging me now and then on social media and not being very nice, let's say threatening me, but I thought nothing of it, blocked him, carried on with my life. We ended up at this bar and as I walk in, I turn a corner and I walk straight into this guy, like physically bump into him. I taken a back and I moved to the side and carry on walking to my table and we sit down, think nothing of it. I forgot to mention this dude is super big compared to me.
Speaker 1:
[13:43] When you bumped into each other, were there any words?
Speaker 6:
[13:45] Bump in, no words, part ways. Thought nothing of it. Anyway, sit down at our table and we're having a good night, having a couple of beers, ordering food. I see this guy starts moving closer to us and sits at a table adjacent from us.
Speaker 1:
[14:00] Oh, boy.
Speaker 6:
[14:01] He's staring me down the entire time. Is your girlfriend with you? Yeah. My girlfriend's with me. I've got a lifelong friend with me as well. Then another guy, a friend of mine, that's a pilot that was visiting, he flies for Doctors Without Borders in Afghanistan, but he's a British guy. It's the four of us sitting at the table, minding our own business. Every time I glance over to him, he's mouthing off, making as if he's swearing at me. I can't tell what he's saying, but you can see something not good. So we noticed this is a group, and we decide maybe we need to get out of here. It's starting to get a little sketchy. So as we stand up to leave, him and his friends stand up to leave as well. We walk outside, and he starts to try to confront me. Now, I'm more of a lover than a fighter, but I stand my ground. My girlfriend at the time comes in between us and kind of like pushes him back and tries to calm him down a bit. And he's getting more and more aggressive. The bouncers decided to step in at this point. The bouncers at Hooters and Johannesburg are massive, so they kind of defuse the situation. The bouncer then put his arm around me and started to walk me to my car. And the other bouncer was arguing with the guy behind me and just trying to handle the situation. Every time I glance back, another one of this dude's friends arrive. So like it's turning from two people into like four and then six. And then at some point, there was like eight of them. Now the bouncer behind me is starting to get obviously a little overwhelmed and the one that's walking me to my car is like, okay, you need to leave now, get in the car and go. Get in the car. The one female friend of mine, she got in the driver's seat and I was like, I don't think you should drive, let me drive rather, just in case we need to like get away or something like that. I feel like I'm a more evasive driver. This parking lot that Hooters is in, it's like parking lots with parkades on either side, but there's one entry and exit. As we reverse out and we start going down this exit path, him and his entire group of friends block the road.
Speaker 2:
[16:17] Oh, boy.
Speaker 6:
[16:21] So now I'm like, okay, now what? So he's standing in front of the car and he's swearing at me and trying to intimidate me. The friend of mine in the back, the one that was visiting from Afghanistan had his window rolled down, and one of this dude's friends punched him through the window and ended up chipping his tooth.
Speaker 2:
[16:39] Oh boy.
Speaker 6:
[16:40] His famous quote from that is, he spends his career in a war zone, but comes back one night in South Africa and gets punched. Exactly. This guy starts pushing on the bonnet of the car, trying to stop the car. At this point, I've had enough, so I started to edge forwards, and as I moved forward, he jumped onto the bonnet of the car and smashed a massive hole in the windshield.
Speaker 5:
[17:02] Oh my God. Oh my God.
Speaker 6:
[17:04] Hammer fisted it.
Speaker 1:
[17:05] He's lost it.
Speaker 6:
[17:06] Yeah, I used pretty cray cray. So at this point, I just floored it, and he rolled off the car, and we got home after that. That's not where the story ends though.
Speaker 1:
[17:16] Were police called?
Speaker 6:
[17:18] That's what I'm getting to. So we got home, and the friend whose car it was went to go lay charges at the police station. The next day, this guy contacted us, and they were trying to negotiate so that she would drop the charges and he would pay for the damages. But it turns out he was contacting us because he tried to charge me as well. So he also went to the police station, and he tried to charge me with attempted murder.
Speaker 2:
[17:43] Oh my God.
Speaker 6:
[17:47] When he was charged with malicious damage to property. So we ended up getting contacted by a detective, and now I'm super nervous. Like my first run in with the law, I'm like, what's going on? Am I going to get arrested for this? I go to the police station, make my statement. The detective has taken both of our statements, and he says, even a blind man can see this dude's not telling the truth. So I shouldn't worry about it. So I was like, okay. He said he'll let me know if I need to come in for anything again, and that was the end of that. Then about a week later, he phones me, he's like, I need you to come to the police station today. I'm like, okay. So I get my friend to go with me in case he can arrest me or something, that they take my car home. But turns out that wasn't the case. He just wanted to tell me that they had actually arrested the other guy and he wanted to confirm some of my statements. So that's kind of where it ended. I ended up being a witness.
Speaker 1:
[18:40] For his trial.
Speaker 6:
[18:41] Yeah. I have no idea if he was convicted or not. I wasn't there for the sentencing or whether like he was guilty or anything like that. So it was just stand as a witness and that was kind of the end of that.
Speaker 1:
[18:52] And did he ever reach out to your then girlfriend about it?
Speaker 6:
[18:57] I don't think so. I ended up moving back to my hometown and back to Johannesburg again. So a few years later, I bumped into him at the gym.
Speaker 1:
[19:04] Oh, you did?
Speaker 6:
[19:05] He didn't say anything. He didn't do anything. So I think he'd learned his lesson, whether or not he got charged or not. Like he was super young. So I don't know if he would have gotten a criminal record or anything from that. I'm sure the judge would have been lenient if it was like a first time offense.
Speaker 2:
[19:21] People cannot control their temper.
Speaker 1:
[19:23] You know, young men are wound up a little hot.
Speaker 6:
[19:26] Yeah, especially when the legal drinking age is 18.
Speaker 2:
[19:29] Oh, true.
Speaker 6:
[19:29] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[19:30] Alcohol, jealousy, massive size, maybe he was juicing. Who knows what's in the mix?
Speaker 5:
[19:35] Yeah, lots going on.
Speaker 2:
[19:37] Well, I'm glad you made it out of there.
Speaker 1:
[19:39] And I hope that didn't taint your feelings about Hooters.
Speaker 6:
[19:42] No, not at all. I still regularly go to Hooters for their All You Can Eat Chicken Wing Special.
Speaker 1:
[19:47] Oh, they've got an All You Can Eat Wing Special?
Speaker 6:
[19:51] Yeah. Oh, baby. It's pretty good. And you'd love the exchange rates for it as well.
Speaker 2:
[19:56] Surprised they don't do some sort of like chicken brass special.
Speaker 1:
[20:01] You're more perverted than us.
Speaker 2:
[20:02] All You Can Eat Brass Special.
Speaker 1:
[20:04] Oh my God, Mom, you're so perverted. I will say I hated this about Hooters. They were very ethical about serving people because my friend Scotty and I used to go and watch basketball in the Santa Monica Hooters location, eat wings. They would only sell you two pitchers of beer.
Speaker 5:
[20:19] Yeah, because of the pandemonium in the parking lot.
Speaker 1:
[20:23] But we would always be a little frustrated with what they wanted us to consume. But again, very ethical of them. So I guess I am applauding them even though I was frustrated. How about down there? Is it willy nilly? Will they over serve you or are they pretty tight?
Speaker 6:
[20:35] The portion sizes are pretty big. I have been to the US before and South African portion sizes don't really compare. Like US portion sizes are insanely huge.
Speaker 1:
[20:44] I know we're so gluttonous. It's crazy. I'm guessing you don't have 64-ounce drinks at the gas station either.
Speaker 6:
[20:51] No, none of that.
Speaker 1:
[20:54] Well, Casey, it's lovely meeting you. We're so flattered you're down in South Africa listening.
Speaker 6:
[20:59] I think I might be a first for South Africa.
Speaker 5:
[21:01] I think so.
Speaker 2:
[21:03] Please spread the word.
Speaker 6:
[21:04] All right.
Speaker 1:
[21:04] Well, lovely meeting you, Casey.
Speaker 6:
[21:06] You too. Have a good one.
Speaker 1:
[21:07] Take care.
Speaker 7:
[21:09] Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes.
Speaker 1:
[21:12] Is it Leah or Lee?
Speaker 7:
[21:13] Lee.
Speaker 1:
[21:14] You just never know what these spellings.
Speaker 2:
[21:17] That's tough.
Speaker 7:
[21:18] I was excited for you guys to guess. I get Leah a lot. I get Lay a lot.
Speaker 2:
[21:22] Lay is inappropriate, but Leah and Lee, that's tricky.
Speaker 1:
[21:28] How do you spell Leah? Leah, Lay, Leah.
Speaker 2:
[21:32] Lay?
Speaker 1:
[21:32] Leah. No, Leah. How do you spell Leah?
Speaker 7:
[21:35] L-E-A-H usually.
Speaker 1:
[21:36] Where are you at, Lee?
Speaker 7:
[21:37] I am just a stone's throw away from some of your many references in Northville, Michigan.
Speaker 1:
[21:43] Oh, I know. Northville, inside and out. Do you cruise Hines Park?
Speaker 7:
[21:47] Of course. I'm like a mile away.
Speaker 1:
[21:50] Wonderful. Yes, we would go cruising in Hines Park quite a bit. My very good friend went to Novi High.
Speaker 7:
[21:56] My husband went to Novi High.
Speaker 5:
[21:57] Wow.
Speaker 1:
[21:57] He did. Then we would cruise downtown Northville. That's the story, Monica, that I met the girl and I was lying about my age, and she tooted when we were hooking up. Remember that famous story?
Speaker 5:
[22:08] Jesus Christ, Dax.
Speaker 7:
[22:09] I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:
[22:09] That's all from Northville. Bringing back all the memories. Lee, did you grow up in Northville?
Speaker 7:
[22:16] I grew up in Northville and I met my husband at Michigan State, where this story takes place. Then we moved all around. I was by Wobby Wob in Chicago, down in Dallas, and now back in good old Northville.
Speaker 2:
[22:28] No stints in Atlanta? What do you have against Atlanta?
Speaker 7:
[22:32] I worked for United Airlines, so they're a very Delta country. Maybe my only rivalry there.
Speaker 1:
[22:38] Do you still work for them or no, you don't?
Speaker 7:
[22:40] Now I'm a stay home mom and a personal trainer.
Speaker 2:
[22:43] I have gains.
Speaker 1:
[22:44] Monica's worked out 1.2 times, 1.1 times.
Speaker 2:
[22:47] My muscles are huge. I'm sorry to scare you.
Speaker 1:
[22:51] How often are you working out? We're so off track, but I'm curious.
Speaker 7:
[22:55] Probably five to six times a week.
Speaker 1:
[22:57] There we go.
Speaker 7:
[22:58] Always a rest day, sometimes two.
Speaker 2:
[22:59] How about five or six days rest days?
Speaker 1:
[23:02] I like the six day workout.
Speaker 5:
[23:04] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[23:05] Sometimes seven on accident.
Speaker 5:
[23:06] Let's hear our story.
Speaker 7:
[23:08] Okay. As we reference Michigan State, sort of known as a party school, which is where this story takes place. This is January 2014, which would make me a 18-year-old freshman at Michigan State. We are back for second semester, and I was on a sports team at MSU. I actually want you guys to guess what team you think I was on.
Speaker 1:
[23:30] I think you were a soccer player. Lacrosse.
Speaker 7:
[23:33] We're going to go lacrosse because my husband was lacrosse. So I'm going to keep that part honest, but I like lacrosse.
Speaker 1:
[23:38] Okay, so neither.
Speaker 7:
[23:39] Neither. Because I'm on the lacrosse team, there are girls who are a lot older that I've become friends with over summer trainings, and we have this big age group of friends. All the girls who are 21 obviously are going to the bars on Friday night, and that gave a big incentive to the younger girls to find a way to also go to the bars. So there are two ways at the time it felt like you could get a fake ID. The first one is the one I opted for, which was to take some sort of very sketchy passport-like photo to send to who knows what country via whatever boy on the dorm floor was willing to take on this endeavor. Get all of those fake IDs back in like a necklace box from, again, who knows what country and who knows when, and he would kind of go and pass them out. Terrible, very clearly fake from Connecticut. Not great, but worked at the bars you knew it would work at. The more ideal way to get the idea was a cousin that turned 21, pretends they lose theirs, you look enough like them, you use a real Michigan driver's license, you know, more of a surefire.
Speaker 2:
[24:39] The real ID was always preferred. I didn't get to have that, obviously, because nobody looked like me. One time I used Callie's ID, we've talked about that. Anyway, go on.
Speaker 7:
[24:48] So I've got my fake ID. I'm 18, feeling good, getting into the bars I know I can get into with my older teammates. But as some of the other girls in my grade, we're still looking for an ID. Well, it turns out, feels like Fate, one of the older girls on the team is at a party and sticks her hand down because she drops her phone in the couch cushion and pulls out a driver's license.
Speaker 1:
[25:09] Oh, bingo.
Speaker 7:
[25:10] For someone, we don't know, but immediately she looks at it, blonde, blue-eyed, could have been any one of our teammates. So she holds on to this morsel and she decides that she is going to night one of my best friends, another freshman, Janine, with this fake ID. Now Janine is about 5'1, 5'2, cute as a button, and this ID does say 5'10. But other than that, we're going to roll with it. So Friday night comes around January, it's freezing cold. Monica, as you know, the best part of going out is the getting ready. We're getting ready in the dorms, skater skirts, peplum tops, big chunky Charlie's necklace. We're ready to go. We're hyping each other up. Janine parts her hair the way that Haley, the fake ID name, has her hair parted. She wears it straight, which she never does. We're trying to make Janine Haley. She is living the role. We get to the bar, and this is the bar on campus. Hey, Rick's American Cafe for all my fellow Spartans.
Speaker 1:
[26:21] I'm going to ask my sister about this. My sister is a MSU graduate.
Speaker 7:
[26:25] She will know. It is a basement bar, is all good, college bars are. The way it's set up is you can see the front door and that's it, because you immediately go down the steps. The line goes out and around the corner, and you have to wait outside until you get to the bouncer and go in. We've got our group of all my teammates, and we are strategizing here. We've got someone who's 21 with a real ID first, then me, then someone else who's 21. We're intermingling the fakes. We think this is going to help us.
Speaker 1:
[26:53] I co-sign on this.
Speaker 7:
[26:54] Thank you. I appreciate that. We're there and we are strategizing, and while we're in line, we're all studying. Everyone who's underage is studying their info. Address, what's your date of birth, what's your full name, what's your middle name, what's your hometown, all the things. Janina is locked in as Haley. She's ready to go. We decide because this is her first time using fake, she's going to go very last, because the rumor is like, if you're cool with the bouncer, even if he turns you away, usually they'll give you your ID back and just say, I know this is fake, scurry off. She's like, I'll just go back to the dorms if I don't get in. We get up to the bouncer, somebody goes, they get in. I go, I get in. Next person goes in and then we look at Janine and we're all trying to creep down the steps so that we can hear what's happening. Sweetie Petey, little farm town. She's been peer pressured into using a fake ID, really is what's happening here. She hands over the ID and immediately the bouncer looks at it, smirks and goes, how do you know Haley?
Speaker 5:
[27:51] Fuck yeah, see, this is the risk you run.
Speaker 1:
[27:55] Oh, the bouncer knows Haley.
Speaker 7:
[27:56] We're on a campus of 50,000 just undergrad, but Janine is fast on her feet and immediately, instead of trying to be the I am Haley, which is what I would have done, I would have doubled down, panicked, gone with it, immediately doesn't miss a beat, goes, we're really good friends, like all my friends just got in, can you just give me the ID back? And she was just, I think, trying to get the ID back. I don't even know if she wanted to get down the steps, but he kind of like rolls his eyes, gives it to her and lets her down.
Speaker 6:
[28:22] Let's her in, yes. Good job.
Speaker 7:
[28:24] And once they reveal her at the end, she's too cute to let her go home. So Janine gets down the steps and we are celebrating like it is Super Bowl Sunday and we have won. We are Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce high-fiving. This is the greatest thing that's happened to our freshmen selves. The bar is split because you go down the steps, you go to the left side, we call the dark side, that was the dance floor, the booty bumping of it all. And then the right side was the light side, and that's where you would go to watch the game, order a drink. It's a big oval, so you can walk kind of all the way around. So we're into the bar, we are there for probably 45 minutes, just enough to get a couple of vodka crayons in us.
Speaker 5:
[29:02] Yeah, that was my drink too.
Speaker 7:
[29:04] Oh yeah, it's every 18-year-old's drink.
Speaker 2:
[29:06] Actually, my 18-year-old drink was Amaretto Sour.
Speaker 1:
[29:10] Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:
[29:11] That's what we were to all get. And then I worked my way up to vodka.
Speaker 1:
[29:14] I like that you're also always like, it's a twofer, you're getting drunk and also kind of buffeting yourself from a UTI.
Speaker 2:
[29:21] Exactly, you're being healthy.
Speaker 7:
[29:22] It's the wellness choice. We're having a good time, we're booty bumping. Now, the manager of this bar, we're going to call him Hank because I'm pretty sure he still works there, and I want to be in good graces as an alumna. But he is exactly what you think of when you imagine a Midwestern bar manager, like big, burly, he's wearing the Rick's East Lansing t-shirt. Everybody knows his face in East Lansing. We spot him walking over to Janine. There's a couple of us that are all hanging out, and Janine is near the bar getting a drink on the dark side. Hank walks over, steps right in front of Janine and just puts his hand out, palm up as if to say, hand it over. I know you're using a fake hand it over, but he's saying no words. From the opposite corner of the bar, I am watching this go down, and immediately I clock that the person standing next to him is Haley.
Speaker 6:
[30:11] Okay.
Speaker 7:
[30:13] The reason that the bouncer immediately recognized Haley is because they're coworkers, and she's a bartender at Rick's.
Speaker 1:
[30:21] Oh my gosh! What are the odds?
Speaker 2:
[30:24] That is a bad, bad sim.
Speaker 7:
[30:27] Bad luck is what that is. As she's fumbling through her cross body to get this ID out, she goes to give it to Hank, and Haley snaps it out of her hand and just turns and walks away. Kind of drew the conclusion that at some point in the bouncer shift, he ran down the steps and said to Haley, I just let your friend in with your ID, and Haley said something like, what do you mean my friend, I lost my ID at a party?
Speaker 1:
[30:50] You're right, and that's why he let her in. He's like, oh, it's one of Haley's buddies. She works here. We're going to let it slide. I'm caught up now. That makes sense.
Speaker 7:
[30:59] So now we've pissed off Hank, we've pissed off Haley, and we've pissed off the bouncer. There's a lot of lies happening here, right? From far away, I just see Haley get her ID, and Janine turns immediately and walks the other way. So I'm like, we're good. I've got three vodka crans and I'm booty bumping. Come on back and join the party. I think we're fine. She comes to join the group and is like, we got to go. They're mad. This is bad news. Now, truly like out of a movie, cut to the next thing we see is we're trying to get up the steps, and at the top of the steps with the bouncer, are two East Lansing police officers.
Speaker 2:
[31:37] that.
Speaker 5:
[31:37] No, we're going all the way.
Speaker 2:
[31:39] MIP.
Speaker 7:
[31:41] They were known to send the police officers in and have a good relationship and say, oh, we don't know who's using fake IDs, but if you want to come down, you're allowed to go and ask people to see their IDs. We're at the top and we just hear the bouncer say to the police officers, yeah, blonde in the big pink necklace.
Speaker 2:
[32:01] Oh, describing, oh my gosh, she just pull off the necklace and throw it.
Speaker 7:
[32:06] Literally. So we are walking the steps. Our walk turns into a full blown sprint. We turn the opposite way from the police officers. And at this point, I don't know if it's the adrenaline. I don't know what's happening, but there are no words being said between the group of the three of us that are sprinting away from this bar. We are just like all somehow telekinesis going the same direction and getting out of there, end up running away from the police officers. They do not chase us. In my mind, I was like, we're now going to be on a foot chase. That did not happen. We ran around the corner, went into the drunk food spot, ditched the pink necklace in the bathroom, and all was well. Scary.
Speaker 1:
[32:44] That's exciting. All's well that ends well.
Speaker 7:
[32:47] The full circle of it is she obviously got her fake taken. I was like the young one. I didn't turn 21 until well into senior year. And I got very cocky with my fake ID because it had worked for so long. So for her 21st birthday, I tried to use my fake ID in Vegas. Not a good idea. And that's when I got mine snatched.
Speaker 2:
[33:08] Happened to the best of us.
Speaker 1:
[33:10] Two things. I used Ken Kennedy's at times when I needed to, but mostly we lived in downtown Detroit and they did not give a flying fuck what age you were in downtown Detroit in 1993. They didn't care at all. You go to the liquor store and buy whatever you want and they're like, great, you got cash, you're good.
Speaker 2:
[33:24] Mine got taken my senior year right before I turned 21. It ended up being okay. I got three years out of it.
Speaker 1:
[33:34] What was yours? How did you get yours?
Speaker 2:
[33:36] I had the bad kind, obviously.
Speaker 1:
[33:38] You bought it off a freshman in the dorm?
Speaker 2:
[33:40] I had a friend who was making them.
Speaker 1:
[33:43] Handmade.
Speaker 2:
[33:43] It was literally glued to the back of a Blockbuster card. You couldn't take it out of the wallet. You had the wallet with the clear thing and you would just give them that. If they said, take it out, then you're like, actually, I got to go.
Speaker 1:
[33:58] Actually, I have diarrhea. I got to go home right now.
Speaker 2:
[34:00] Yeah, that's what would happen.
Speaker 1:
[34:01] I just remembered I have diarrhea.
Speaker 2:
[34:02] So he made me and I cry.
Speaker 1:
[34:04] This is a fugazi. You cry?
Speaker 2:
[34:06] Yeah. I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 7:
[34:11] Janine's coming out. Someone over here is dabbing my behind too. Hold on, I'm giving my earpods.
Speaker 1:
[34:16] Oh my God.
Speaker 5:
[34:18] Look at this.
Speaker 8:
[34:19] Hi.
Speaker 1:
[34:19] You're still friends.
Speaker 4:
[34:21] We're mates, top us friends.
Speaker 5:
[34:23] Oh, that is so cute.
Speaker 1:
[34:25] Who's the third member?
Speaker 8:
[34:26] I was not a part of the story. I met them after, but I'm just a huge Armchair-y. Lee and I text all the time when episodes come out where I was just like bonding over it and she was like, okay, you have to come over, subversive moral support for the story and sneak in and say hi if you can. Just wanted to say I'm a huge fan. Oh, we love it.
Speaker 1:
[34:43] All right. Well, nice meeting all of you. Yes.
Speaker 6:
[34:45] Yeah, nice meeting you too.
Speaker 8:
[34:47] Thank you for wanting us to talk.
Speaker 5:
[34:49] So fun. Bye.
Speaker 1:
[34:53] Katie, where are you camping?
Speaker 4:
[34:54] I'm currently camping in my living room.
Speaker 1:
[34:58] I love it.
Speaker 2:
[34:59] Are those rosettes?
Speaker 4:
[35:01] No, this is part of a fort kit that my children own.
Speaker 1:
[35:04] Yeah, we had the same one and I come across big tubs of the poles in the joining pieces all the time and think, are we really still ever going to play with this? Can we please get rid of it? We don't.
Speaker 4:
[35:17] Well, now they're also weapons.
Speaker 1:
[35:19] Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 4:
[35:20] Multi-use.
Speaker 1:
[35:21] Yeah, I mean, look at it. It's just dying to be swung at a sibling. Where are you at in the world?
Speaker 4:
[35:26] Outside of Washington DC and Northern Virginia.
Speaker 1:
[35:29] Oh, okay. Wonderful. What kind of weather do you have over there right now?
Speaker 4:
[35:33] It's a little chilly, but the sun is starting to come back out, so I'm slowly getting out of my seasonal depression.
Speaker 2:
[35:39] Oh, good. I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1:
[35:41] Driving with the windows down yet?
Speaker 4:
[35:42] Yes. Sunroof wide open.
Speaker 1:
[35:44] Oh, it's a big, big moment.
Speaker 2:
[35:46] In my planner, I have to write down what I'm grateful for every day.
Speaker 1:
[35:49] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[35:50] Yesterday, I wrote Sunshine.
Speaker 1:
[35:51] It's a good one.
Speaker 2:
[35:52] Because it's a real good one.
Speaker 1:
[35:53] So you have a bar story.
Speaker 4:
[35:55] I do. This story takes place in a small college town in Virginia. I am a college sophomore in this story, and I am not yet 21. So I am going to the bars with a fake ID that is pretty bad.
Speaker 1:
[36:12] Where did you get it?
Speaker 2:
[36:13] Tell us the variety of this.
Speaker 1:
[36:15] Yeah, we're learning a lot about fake IDs in this episode. I'm learning a lot about fake IDs on this episode. What was your variety?
Speaker 4:
[36:22] We found some guy that did fake. It wasn't like a real ID. It was created for me. So I basically traded a Kate Spade bag that my aunt gave me for this ID. Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:
[36:34] That's pretty expensive. Better be a good fake.
Speaker 4:
[36:36] It was bad.
Speaker 1:
[36:36] Did you have to take a picture or did you use an existing one? How was it constructed?
Speaker 4:
[36:40] They took a picture and then it was horribly laminated and then they didn't even like stand down or round it. So it was pointy.
Speaker 1:
[36:48] Oh, sharp, dangerous to retrieve out of the wallet.
Speaker 3:
[36:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[36:53] And how successful was it as a fake ID? Did it work?
Speaker 4:
[36:56] If they ever used the scanner, which they started using as I was getting closer to 21, I would not make it in. But for the most part, it did its job.
Speaker 1:
[37:05] Okay, great.
Speaker 4:
[37:06] I love that. It's a Thursday night. It's the local bar that everyone goes to. It's only college students. And it's one of those special college bars that has this big open space where you can dance and it's like a club. But then as soon as you enter these other doors, it's just like a restaurant and bar. So it's picture night. It's two for one. And I have two pictures and I'm going to meet my friends. I'm already wasted. We're already making our way towards this club space. So it's like a different feel now. I am hammered. And as I'm walking, I'm in my heels and my black lacy going out top. I'm strutting my stuff. I slip on a puddle of something and I fall face forward and I catch myself with my mouth.
Speaker 1:
[37:57] You break your fall with your teeth.
Speaker 4:
[37:58] I did. I broke my fall with my teeth.
Speaker 2:
[38:00] Because you couldn't let those pictures go.
Speaker 4:
[38:02] I didn't. I needed to. It was a priority. I had to get them to my friends. So I fell and I knocked all four of my friends.
Speaker 1:
[38:10] Oh!
Speaker 5:
[38:11] Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:
[38:13] This is really a serious tumble.
Speaker 4:
[38:15] It was in a, like, crescent moon shape across all four.
Speaker 1:
[38:18] Oh, Oh, wait, they broke off? The roots didn't come out.
Speaker 4:
[38:23] No, the roots didn't come out. But they all broke off, which was actually pretty fortunate for me later, that they didn't all actually come out.
Speaker 1:
[38:33] Wait, can I ask you quickly, like, what's the pain of your teeth cracking off?
Speaker 4:
[38:37] There's zero pain.
Speaker 1:
[38:39] Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 4:
[38:40] I feel nothing.
Speaker 2:
[38:41] But you're drunk, which helps.
Speaker 4:
[38:43] Could also be a little shock.
Speaker 1:
[38:44] Yeah. And you run your tongue along your teeth and you go, oh, there's a moon shape.
Speaker 4:
[38:49] Yeah, I don't run my tongue along my teeth, I just run my tongue through my teeth.
Speaker 1:
[38:55] Really quick, do you look on the ground for the pieces of teeth?
Speaker 4:
[38:59] So this is where it actually gets bad. My guy friends that lived around the corner from me, they saw this whole thing and they watched me fit my teeth into my hand.
Speaker 1:
[39:10] Oh boy.
Speaker 4:
[39:10] Look at them like really pissed off and then throw them across the floor.
Speaker 1:
[39:16] Gangster move, I like it.
Speaker 4:
[39:21] So they did frantically look for my teeth, but we never saw them again, which was also a blessing because the dentist would have tried to glue them. It wouldn't have looked good. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:32] You make big seam across your smile.
Speaker 4:
[39:34] I'm wasted at this point and my guy friends being guys were like, we want to stay at the bar. So they usher me into a cab with people I don't know. So strangers are now bringing me home. They decided that finding my friends was not the best option.
Speaker 2:
[39:51] Oh my God.
Speaker 1:
[39:52] Well, really quick, maybe they saw what disregard you had for your teeth, and they're like, oh, she didn't care about shit. It doesn't mean they can't care.
Speaker 5:
[40:01] They should care.
Speaker 4:
[40:02] It was just a normal night for me. So I get inside and I'm by myself and I'm not really sure what to do. I'm not really panicking. It could still be that I was in shock, but everything seems fine. I do call my mom and it's probably 11 or 12 at night on a Thursday night. She's sleeping. She's two hours away and I leave her a message and all I say is, they're gone.
Speaker 2:
[40:26] Oh my God.
Speaker 4:
[40:31] And then my roommate comes in and so I hang up the phone and I don't say anything else. My roommate quickly calls my boyfriend who is long distance and she quickly just tells me what's going on before we go to the ER and she says, Katie fell at the bar, which he heard as Katie fell off the bar. So he's thinking I was dancing on the bar.
Speaker 2:
[40:55] He's pissed now.
Speaker 1:
[40:56] He's starting to get jealous.
Speaker 2:
[40:57] Uh-oh, I told her never to do that. That's smart.
Speaker 4:
[41:02] It made me want to actually have danced on the bar. I wish I had done it. So we do go to the ER and the doctor is unfazed by us. We're wasted. He checks me for head trauma. I'm fine. He says, you just need to go to the dentist in the morning. Everything's fine. He does prescribe me Percocet. It was also fun to stay at the pharmacy with my list, so Percocet. So we proceed to go home. Everything's fine. I go to sleep and I wake up at seven in the morning from a phone call from my mom. And she is just like, what is happening? What's gone? So I tell her everything and she says, okay, I'll be there in two hours. So on her way, she does make a dentist appointment for me. And I went back to sleep. I made no effort to clean myself up. I have last night's makeup on. I have maybe like those juicy couture sweatpants on with juicy across my butt, the crop top. I look like a mess. I smell like a bar. My mom is clearly ashamed of my choices.
Speaker 1:
[42:07] The caps off the Percocet bottle sitting at the nightstand.
Speaker 4:
[42:11] She did make me give her the Percocet.
Speaker 2:
[42:13] Yeah, smart.
Speaker 4:
[42:14] She takes me to the dentist. And the minute that I walk in, I realize that my Jesus-loving mother has taken me to the most Christian dentist there could ever be. And I know that she's not acting that disappointed, but that this is her form of retribution for me. And I proceed to spend the next two hours in the dentist chair, smelling like bar and staring up at scenes from the Bible, listening to all the Jesus-lovers there is in the world.
Speaker 1:
[42:46] Oh, so they had adorned the ceiling with Jesus iconography?
Speaker 4:
[42:50] It was.
Speaker 1:
[42:51] Wow. So did this dentist, did he send you out with a smile? I mean, he's got to make fake crowns or veneers?
Speaker 4:
[42:58] It was actually really impressive. So I needed a root canal because I did kill one of my roots. So I had to do that and then they had to grind down all four of the teeth so that they could put veneers on.
Speaker 5:
[43:11] Yeah, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2:
[43:12] See, it's an excuse to get veneers.
Speaker 1:
[43:15] Have you had to have them replaced?
Speaker 4:
[43:17] I already had to have them replaced once. That first time was on my parents' dime and then this last time was not.
Speaker 1:
[43:23] They're pricey, right?
Speaker 4:
[43:24] They are pricey.
Speaker 1:
[43:25] You want nice ones.
Speaker 2:
[43:26] Well, you have nice ones. Your teeth look great.
Speaker 4:
[43:29] Thank you. My husband said that I needed to make sure I brushed them before I talk to you guys.
Speaker 1:
[43:33] That was nice of him. What I'm mad about in these post-apocalyptic shows, is they don't show people whose veneers have fallen out. There should be a good percentage of the people in post-apocalyptic America who have the shark teeth.
Speaker 4:
[43:46] I really need to store up on the dental glue just in case.
Speaker 1:
[43:50] Yeah, you're going to want to be able to put them back in there. Other people will be grabbing water and stuff and you'll be grabbing fix-a-dent or whatever it's called. Well, Katie, it's lovely meeting you.
Speaker 4:
[43:59] Lovely meeting you guys too. Thank you so much for all you do.
Speaker 1:
[44:02] Oh, our pleasure.
Speaker 2:
[44:03] Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1:
[44:04] All right, take care.
Speaker 4:
[44:06] You too, goodbye. Bye.
Speaker 1:
[44:08] All right, love you. Have fun at the bar tonight, anyone who's going out. Try to keep your teeth.
Speaker 5:
[44:13] Yeah, be safe out there.
Speaker 1:
[44:14] Don't get in any fights. Use a high-quality fake ID if you must.
Speaker 2:
[44:18] And condom.
Speaker 1:
[44:19] All right, love you.
Speaker 6:
[44:23] Do you want to sing a tune or something?