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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Now, the Shotgun Start in golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So, I'm gonna demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a Shotgun Start here.

Speaker 2:
[00:40] Greetings, and welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotgun Start. It is April 24th. Andy, how are we doing?

Speaker 3:
[00:47] Brendan, I'm doing good. I feel like I'm coming back to life here after a good few days of sleep.

Speaker 2:
[00:57] Slowly working our way back in. Back in, this has been a while. I have my monitor here. Feels like I'm looking at a movie screen just in my face after essentially being on the road for the last two and a half weeks. We're back in the saddle here. First podcast where both of us are at home, and I guess Friday of Valero Texas Open Week, maybe. Maybe that was it. It's been a while, so good to be back.

Speaker 3:
[01:23] Should we get to Pillow Talk?

Speaker 2:
[01:28] We get to Pillow Talk. We get to Pillow Talk. You're talking about a couple of good days of sleep. It felt like you were trying to lead me there. Let's just do it. We're at the 56 second mark, not the 56 minute mark, second mark according to my timer. And let's do a little Pillow Talk. Pillow Talk presented by our friends, our new friends at 8 Sleep. That's spell it out, E-I-G-H-T, sleep, 8 Sleep, where you can use our code friedegg. That's one word, all caps, friedegg at 8sleep.com. That's not the numeral. That's 8 Sleep, spell it out, 8sleep.com/friedegg. Promo code is friedegg for up to $350 off their Pod 5. You can look into what that is for this segment. We don't have to give you all the details on that. PJ expertly wove that in last Friday with Garrett, which a great Pod, PJ. Good job there running the show there. Look into the 8sleep.com/friedegg, $350 off their Pod 5 with the promo code friedegg, and you can get 30 days to try it. 30 days to try it at home. You will enjoy it. We're excited about being with our friends at 8sleep. They've got the Pillow Talk here, presented by 8sleep. What did you want to go for?

Speaker 3:
[02:47] We heard talking about sleep. I figured we'd get there. Let's talk about our trip to Scotland. I feel like a lot of people think it's arduous because of the time change, and for a day or two, I think that can't be a real factor.

Speaker 2:
[03:04] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3:
[03:06] It is.

Speaker 2:
[03:06] I got to be honest with you. We did this live podcast in the theater, and I was on my red-eye. Man, I didn't come in till the middle. I was struggling there. It was a 730 local tip in Scotland. I'm off the red-eye, hadn't slept, so I'm trying to get through the first day.

Speaker 3:
[03:23] BP was falling asleep in the front row. I would look at him. I would look at him, and he was like this, and then I'd look, and he'd go...

Speaker 1:
[03:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:35] I mean, I was doing the shuffle in my chair. Every little thing I could do, like, lean forward, lean back. You know, nothing against the substance of the pod. It was just the red-eye deal. So we had... that's it. Just that first one in, and then last one back. I, you know, but otherwise, you had good sleep. Thanks to our friends at the Russics. I had a nice little room. I would just crash hard there. By night one, I was off and running. It was good.

Speaker 3:
[04:01] I'll tell you a little bit about my routine. Obviously, I came from Augusta, which made it a little bit easier. Usually, I'm going to the UK, eight hours, eight hour time zone difference, and that could be tough. It could be tough coming back too. I dealt with that the last couple of days. But the key here to it is I've found, and it's challenging, is you just cannot sleep the first day. You get your hour to three hours on the plane, and you just go as hard as you can the first day, and you just neglect your sleep until it is a proper time to go to sleep in the UK, in Scotland. So I landed, I played 36 holes at Crayill, which was delightful. It was...

Speaker 2:
[04:52] Sounds great.

Speaker 3:
[04:53] The weather was... That was the worst weather we got, though. It got... The conditions got very rough.

Speaker 2:
[04:59] Really?

Speaker 3:
[05:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:01] Cold? Rain?

Speaker 3:
[05:03] Well, it was so nice when we landed. It was just like pure sun. But anyways, then had a dinner, stayed up till 10.30, and then slept basically for a very long time.

Speaker 2:
[05:20] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[05:21] That got me set up. Likewise, I came back. I had a brutal flight back and then slept. Just stay up. You just stay up as long as you can, and you just try and reset your clock.

Speaker 2:
[05:35] You had 24-hour travel day, essentially. You left at 6 AM, you left our flat in Scotland, and then I think you were home at essentially 5 AM, the following day, Scotland time. That's about right, or 5 or 6 AM and through your door.

Speaker 3:
[05:51] Basically, when I woke up to leave for the airport, it's when I got home.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] It's not that bad. It's West Coast makes the challenge. I'll tell you what, my re-entry yesterday was the worst possible youth sporting event you could get to, re-entry. A track meet where your kids, it's like three and a half hours and your kids are on stage for 25 seconds. And my kid ended up running the very last race of the entire thing. We left at 5.15 and got home. He ran at nine after nine o'clock. And I was just dying, like falling, nodding off like it was your podcast again, in the stands, compounded by, look, bad gift for the wife coming back home. Bad gift. The kids are easy to get the British chocolates, the little stuffy here or there. It's like, I'm going to get Amy something, my wife. So I'm shopping at the airport, which is just a miss. You're doing last minute deals at the airport. I've got this cashmere scarf. I'm like, this is going to be good. This is nice. I go to the play and the first time I check, oh, it's going to be like $300 or over $300 for a scarf. I'm obviously not doing that. So I get two bars of Scottish soap, Highland Soap Company. It looks like fancy bullshit soap. This is bullshit soap that they do at Gold Foods and stuff and I'm like, oh, this is fine. I'm at the Registrar Audibling. It was just a whiff. I bring it home, two Scottish Highlands, whatever, Raspberry Wild, whatever the hell it is. She's like, getting nothing would have been better than just calling my attention to these. I don't even use bar soap. I don't know what this is. What are you doing? That's been my reentry, was the soap and a track meet. But I did get a great night's sleep once I got through that track meet. I crashed hard.

Speaker 3:
[07:46] My wife, we've been doing a ton of stuff around our house. Reentry has been tough, but the other night, I finished doing something. It was 8 PM, so if you fast forward, that's 4 AM Scotland. My wife's like, I sit down on the couch, my wife's like, do you want to watch something? I'm like, okay. By the time she's using the TV, I'm already asleep on the couch.

Speaker 2:
[08:20] You're done. You're tough.

Speaker 3:
[08:22] I literally fell asleep in 30 seconds of sitting down.

Speaker 2:
[08:29] I'll tell you what, though. Once you get there, those are some of the best sleeps ever. When you finally get through that first day in Scotland, or I got to 10.30 last night here, it's just a great sleep. You can get it too at eightsleep.com/friday. Go check it out. Yeah, that's Pillow Talk, the segment. We're told that's going to be clipped for social, and the marching orders were, pull effort, make sure they actually put effort into this one. So there you go, a little BTS. We put it there at the top.

Speaker 3:
[09:01] They didn't want BP to just make fun of it.

Speaker 2:
[09:05] Yet. Let's see. All right. I do have to make fun of something. I have to call you on to the carpet. I've got many listeners after your putter appeared in social posts, maybe even in the background. A lot of eagle-eyed listeners, like you got to call Andy on the carpet. You are now Spider-Man. Andy, full-fledged Spider-Man. You had some statements on the record while we were there that every court in the land would convict you of. You said, I just hit it and it goes online every single time that I want. You just said it's basically like a magic, it's just apparently a pen for your performance. It's a performance-enhancing putter, a pep of some sort. You basically said you have no agency in it anymore. The ball just goes in because you have this weapon in your bag. You were like, couldn't go to anything else. You got a putter cover for it, doesn't seem like it's going anywhere. You're out there spending ample money on a putter cover. The putter you said should be banned is now your putter of choice.

Speaker 3:
[10:12] A little back story here. I say probably, I don't know, eight weeks ago maybe I said that the spider should be banned. This was after six of the first seven winners on the tour were using the spider. I say it should be banned. The next day, I get a text from a friend of mine who works in the player agency world. Reps a few big name players, well-known players, few that are maybe TaylorMade players. Says, hey, what's your address? My friend at TaylorMade, that's the tour rep wants to send you a spider putter. One of the tour reps wants to send you a spider putter. I say, all right, here's my address.

Speaker 2:
[11:06] Happy to accept the thing you just said should be banned.

Speaker 3:
[11:09] Yeah. I mean, why not? Why wouldn't I accept it? Somebody offers you a free putter.

Speaker 2:
[11:15] That's fair.

Speaker 3:
[11:15] Putter arrives and it even has a custom fried egg stamp on it.

Speaker 2:
[11:20] It's cool. I like that.

Speaker 3:
[11:23] I hit one putt with it playing around a couple of weeks ago, didn't like it, and I thought I was planning on taking it out of my bag, but I just threw my bag into my travel bag willy-nilly for Scotland. Realized it was in there.

Speaker 2:
[11:40] Essentially, this is like Masters double Scotland pack.

Speaker 3:
[11:44] Anyways, I saw it in there and I was carrying around Crayall and I decided to hit a few more putts with it. I got to say, I understand how Scotty's gotten so much better at putting. I think the work with Cowan obviously has got better, but this thing has magic inside of five feet. It doesn't feel like you can hit it offline.

Speaker 2:
[12:10] We are not paid in any way, shape, or form by TaylorMade.

Speaker 3:
[12:13] Not paid by TaylorMade.

Speaker 2:
[12:14] Quite the opposite, probably.

Speaker 3:
[12:16] But this thing is honestly complete game changer. So much so that I didn't feel like I could putt without it. There's nothing worse than missing short putts. The thing about Scotland, actually, I will say this. The greens, I leave myself more six-footers in Scotland on slow greens than I leave on lightning fast greens. The reason is because if you miss hit a 60-foot putt, you come up 15 feet short sometimes, and you look like an idiot. That doesn't happen when the greens are rolling 14. It'll be another point, again, on my tie rate against fast greens is that it actually is way more skillful to putt well on slow greens because you actually have to make longer strokes and you're more likely to miss hit the putt. But anyways. God. I started hitting this putter inside of five feet. I was like, I haven't felt like this over five footers very often in my life.

Speaker 2:
[13:18] Well, you're a hypocrite. The very thing you said. I'm not a hypocrite. You're now you've run into the arms of it. But while it's here, you're like, you're like one of those college basketball coaches that wants to take this 27 year old who's played like 25 NBA games. Like, it's just the rules. It's I'm we're this. We think it's wrong, but we have to operate with the environment we're in right now.

Speaker 3:
[13:42] That's right, Brendan. I think it's wrong. But contributing, I'm pretty happy with the spider and what it's done for my golf game.

Speaker 2:
[13:50] Good. I, you know, I'm happy for you, but you'd have to be called out for that.

Speaker 3:
[13:56] I thought I putted pretty well with that hickory blade.

Speaker 2:
[14:00] Whatever that was. Yeah, you did fine with that. You did putt well. You did putt. You putt more than fine with that. You were good.

Speaker 3:
[14:07] I had all ends of the spectrum. I had an 1880s hickory little blade putter that I putt well with and I putt well with the spider. I feel like you guys are being hypocrites saying that the only reason I putt well is because I was using the spider.

Speaker 2:
[14:24] Well, I just was using your own testimony. You let your guard down. There was a smoking gutter a few times. You said like, God, this thing just goes online every time. I'm not alleging anything other than what you said.

Speaker 3:
[14:37] It's magic inside of A-Feed. It should... Listen, I only feel more confident with my take. It should be banned. Absolutely should be banned. But for now... Putting with that versus putting with like a 1990s Ping Zing is just world's different.

Speaker 2:
[14:59] I haven't thought about the Ping Zing in a while. That's good.

Speaker 3:
[15:02] You know why I thought of that? Cameron has the Ping Zing.

Speaker 2:
[15:04] He does? Of course he does. That's great.

Speaker 3:
[15:07] I think he's got the Ping Zing 4. The big boy.

Speaker 2:
[15:11] That's good. Yeah. Thick boy. All right. Well, you're a Spider-Man now. Spider-Man, Andy, I don't see it coming out of the bag anytime soon.

Speaker 3:
[15:20] You're just mad because I beat the crap out of you on the Eden course.

Speaker 2:
[15:25] Well, I was one. I was one day. That was not due to putting. Maybe a little bit. I'd left the door open.

Speaker 3:
[15:30] You couldn't bring it. You brought it all these other days and you couldn't bring it. I know.

Speaker 2:
[15:37] I don't think I got good sleep. Stability Shaft let me down. Maybe I need a Spider. I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[15:42] Literally, you didn't do anything of that match. You just handed me over and over again.

Speaker 2:
[15:47] I know. I've replayed it. I was like, God, just make a five. Make a five for God's sakes. Just give it to you.

Speaker 3:
[15:57] I think I made one birdie the whole day.

Speaker 2:
[15:59] Yeah. I just gave it to you there. To your point, I found myself thinking about pace so much more often there. In my head, I'm thinking about pace so much more with slower greens. Like you said, obviously, the wind plays into it. Whereas with the super fast greens, I kind of know what you're doing, right? You just let it die into the hole. Yeah. It's interesting. It's like, am I going to leave this eight feet short or am I hitting it like 10 feet through the hole? It's interesting. So I think you're thinking about it.

Speaker 3:
[16:37] I think it'd be interesting to look at Scotty's punting if he was forced to go back, would it still be as good?

Speaker 2:
[16:45] It's an interesting dilemma.

Speaker 3:
[16:48] You know what would happen though if it did go back? God, PJ took all the, oh my God, there's so much.

Speaker 2:
[16:57] No, you got to scroll down. You guys, I separated them. What are we doing? What is this part? Let's turn. Weren't we talking there for a minute?

Speaker 3:
[17:04] Well, I was trying to find the soundboard.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] Oh, the soundboard.

Speaker 3:
[17:08] Yes. PJ loaded so much music in here for Walk Up songs.

Speaker 2:
[17:13] Hey, do you think how these guys got to play the new driver every year? Should they just make a play the new putter then too? Like, are you forced to do it?

Speaker 3:
[17:23] Honestly, I think putters should be rolled back, maybe more than anything else. But OK, the spider putter is insane.

Speaker 2:
[17:39] Not more than anything else. That's not like the...

Speaker 3:
[17:44] The driver had the ball and the putter should all be just boom, gone and pros should have to play blades.

Speaker 2:
[17:55] There we go.

Speaker 3:
[17:57] They should have to hit the center of the sweet spot on irons. Is that preposterous? Am I crazy for suggesting that?

Speaker 2:
[18:08] No, you're not. But Andy, the one thing about being in Scotland and then returning home is that we are so far from whatever this thing used to be. They're just different worlds. Andy, Tuesday, I was just batting it around, getting crafty up on the cliffs of Anstruther, and just kind of putting it around and making shots, a hard win, having fun. I go from that on Tuesday into Wednesday, a debate and furor over a pool at a professional golf tournament. I couldn't tell you how far apart those two worlds are in experiences. Talk about just jumping head first into sometimes the hell of our own making. Going from playing some Scottish slicks for a week into this pool controversy at a professional golf tournament. There's no more slap in the face re-emergent news story than that. Is that we are debating or discussing, there's defenses of the pool, there's debate about the pool, there's obviously condemnation of the pool, that this has overwhelmed the first women's major of the year. I can't engage with pool discussion anymore, quite frankly. I know you and Shane talked about it a little bit. It's casual water or whatever it is. It's not, yeah, you just get relief from it. The whole thing is just amusing. There's no actual defense for it. There's no real defense. The LPGA is mounting an admirable one. I just can't believe this is what your major has become, pool debate, and that's all it is. But it makes me want to run back to Scotland. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 3:
[20:05] It's going to be, that's all it's going to be all weekend too. I can't wait for somebody to hit it into it and then they get a free drop.

Speaker 2:
[20:12] Somi Lee from Korea is your early leader there. She shot a 67, five under, a lot of rain down in Houston this week.

Speaker 3:
[20:21] What a surprise.

Speaker 2:
[20:22] Yeah, what a surprise.

Speaker 3:
[20:25] If you were going to pick a locale, this is not, actually it is. It is just a shot at my friends in Houston. I'm sorry. If you were going to pick a locale in America to have a regular women's major where you wanted to have great golf conditions, where would Houston rank on your list of locales?

Speaker 2:
[20:51] Pretty low. I'm trying to think, when is it good? October?

Speaker 3:
[20:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:56] Right?

Speaker 3:
[20:58] That's a no-go.

Speaker 2:
[21:00] There's not majors in October. Yeah, it'd be very, very low. Nothing against the city itself. Just not a good time and place for good conditioning.

Speaker 3:
[21:11] Definitely nothing against the city, and I would echo, they're at the best place they could be at in the city now, with Memorial Park, like accessibility or how many people play there, so people just know. That being said, I just feel like if this is arguably their marquee event of the year, the LPGA, would you say?

Speaker 2:
[21:38] Well, it's the one they own. Yeah, it's the LPGA's event of the year. They have Solheim in Netherlands, but they only have, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[21:45] This is your best event of the year? You got to look at yourself in the mirror. I mean, the whole organization needs to look at themselves in the mirror.

Speaker 2:
[21:52] Just as a group, go stand in front of a big mirror.

Speaker 3:
[21:57] The whole team is a team building exercise where the entire staff gets in front of a big mirror. But they need to look in front of a mirror and be like, what are we doing as an organization? We put a fricking pool in. Think about the moments of relevance of the LPGA this year, is when they called off the tournament because of somebody might get injured because it's cold out.

Speaker 2:
[22:31] Suboptimal playing conditions or whatever, reasonable playing condition.

Speaker 3:
[22:35] Now, because they installed a pool on the eight teeth hole. These are the two moments. I'm sorry. I didn't expect to get this upset.

Speaker 2:
[22:49] I don't want to yell about it. It's on serious.

Speaker 3:
[22:54] You host your major championship in Houston. It's the one you own. There's not good golf in Houston.

Speaker 2:
[23:03] That's a Chevron issue. Chevron wants it at home.

Speaker 3:
[23:06] Don't let the tail wag the dock.

Speaker 2:
[23:11] I agree.

Speaker 3:
[23:12] I know that this contract was done with the previous regime. I know you can't make huge change in the course of six months of the Kessler era or year, whatever it's been. But think about the two big moments the LPGA has had this year. It's just sad for women's golf.

Speaker 2:
[23:38] I just, yeah. The defense of it is just amusing to me. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining like puppies pond is this thing that it's not that anymore and that's fine. Congrats to Chevron for supporting the game and coming in, but ditch the pool. I don't know. Whatever. The women want to do it and the players like it. It's fine. This is going to be the discussion of your major. Putting in a permanent pond, by the way, doesn't make it any better going forward. That's as laughable, looks a little bit better than a pool. But four feet too. Don't you just wait into that? Don't you step down into that? I'd be worried about just kneecap shattering as you hit the bottom of the pool jumping into that.

Speaker 3:
[24:23] If you have a young kid, you jump into shallow pools occasionally. It's terrifying.

Speaker 2:
[24:31] Why did they make it at least like seven something? I mean, four feet is ridiculous.

Speaker 3:
[24:35] It probably cost them much money to make it seven.

Speaker 2:
[24:38] That was where they drew the line, building the freaking pool to begin with.

Speaker 3:
[24:43] How much do you think this cost to install this pool?

Speaker 2:
[24:47] I have not a pool. 100 grand? Whatever it cost to put a pool in your backyard, a little bit less than that, it seems like. Let's see what AI says. Which AI do you use?

Speaker 3:
[24:58] I use ChatGBT. I don't know what to use.

Speaker 2:
[25:01] I don't, yeah. What do you use? I put Claude on my computer, but I haven't used him really that much. I was trying to figure out Jonathan K Fax from Claude. He didn't have much for me that one time when K got in that corn fairy tour and I haven't gone back to it since. I don't know how much it cost to put a pool in, but this has to be-

Speaker 3:
[25:20] Would you say it's about 10 by 15?

Speaker 2:
[25:22] Yeah, it's something like that. This is probably 70% of the cost to put the pool in your backyard because it's a smaller guy, not very deep. I just, I don't know. It's insane. This is what the conversation is around that. And to defend it with a straight face is stupid. What is Chad thinking right now? So not the swiftest thing. You know, Google's faster. It was Google's worthless now. All right. So me Lee is your early leader. What else do we have?

Speaker 3:
[25:58] They say their guess is roughly 20 to 50 grand. That's 30 to 40, feeling like the best middle estimate.

Speaker 2:
[26:10] I mean, rough is too generous. A term 20 to 50? Like for God's sakes, what a range is that?

Speaker 3:
[26:15] 30 to 40. 30 to 40. All right.

Speaker 2:
[26:18] I mean, come on.

Speaker 3:
[26:21] Here are the things that I had to do. Excavation and haul off. Liner or shelf, pumps and filtration. They had to fill it with water.

Speaker 2:
[26:33] Electrical work to get the pump working.

Speaker 3:
[26:35] Site restoration and turf repair. I mean, this doesn't include the little fence they put around it.

Speaker 2:
[26:42] I mean, they had to do all landscaping. They put it next to the green. They had to dig it out. Yeah, it's insane. It's so dumb. I'll get this jump. Anyway, whatever.

Speaker 3:
[26:54] They just need to run ideas by an independent party. Like, is this a good idea?

Speaker 2:
[27:00] That was my whole thing.

Speaker 3:
[27:01] I can't imagine anybody being like, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2:
[27:04] That is my whole thing. There's probably some cowboy down there that thought this was a great idea. But where were the other like 35 people at the LPGA that said, no, we will be mocked incessantly for doing this. I mean, you're not a major.

Speaker 3:
[27:20] Everybody on the Internet is talking about this. This is golf.

Speaker 2:
[27:23] Not in good way. Maybe they've succeeded then because no one would be talking about it. The Chevron. You'd have fewer people talking about it. I don't know. Someone who is talking, or should I say tweeting, back on the bird app is Ian Poulter who has entered the chat. PJ, get in here. I watched this clip. Good pie. I listened to it on the flight yesterday. Bouncing around with bacon. You're putting asterisks on Stu Sink's senior PGA win.

Speaker 3:
[27:57] Clearly, people agree with me.

Speaker 2:
[28:00] I got a push notification that Ian Poulter had followed us. Little did I know when I opened it a few minutes, like 30 minutes later, what would I would find?

Speaker 3:
[28:10] Well, I can tell you how I found out. I was on the phone with Andy coming up with Walk Up Songs, and I just yelled, oh my god, Ian Poulter replied to the SGS tweet.

Speaker 2:
[28:20] And we got to do experience it. What did he say?

Speaker 3:
[28:25] I said that Ian Poulter was going to be a problem, all caps, on the Champions Tour. Ian Poulter replies, not tagged, not anything, just somebody sent him the tweet.

Speaker 2:
[28:37] He seems to be tweeting in active right now.

Speaker 3:
[28:40] Well, you know, you effing bet your ass I will be a real problem. Laughing emojis. Can't wait to play the US. Senior Open in June. It's in July. And catch up with some old friends. Can't wait to see who's been eating all the pies since the last time I've seen them.

Speaker 2:
[28:58] Pie emoji. I mean, this has to just be have major year.

Speaker 3:
[29:04] I think I don't think I mean, I think it probably did, right? Like realistically, how much better are we going to get from this? I immediate reply replied within like 45 seconds asking if he'd like to come on lunch with the boys to discuss his impending Champions Tour domination. I just hope I don't really know if England uses the term problem like we do. I hope he understands that it was not an insult.

Speaker 2:
[29:31] There was actually the highest possible compliment.

Speaker 3:
[29:33] I absolutely understood.

Speaker 2:
[29:34] Do you think he got there? That's what I was worried about.

Speaker 3:
[29:37] Completely got there. He knew what you were throwing down.

Speaker 2:
[29:43] I have high expectations. That was good. I can't believe he's ready. We got to get him on lunch. As far as I could tell in the clip, you did not go at him at all. He seems to be popping off at the head.

Speaker 3:
[29:54] We were talking about how he's going to dominate. I legitimately called him a problem.

Speaker 2:
[29:59] Yeah, there was nothing critical about him tweeting too much. He said, Skechers World Champions Cup, he's going to dominate out there.

Speaker 3:
[30:05] He's going to be, I mean, this is the greatest Ryder Cup player of all time. If he comes on lunch, you got to make sure to wish him a belated happy birthday. Of course.

Speaker 2:
[30:14] Just doesn't matter when it is. Just say it. Just, you know, happy birthday. Love that. Other news on the Swip Around Friday. I don't believe you guys hit on PJ Tour being out of Hawaii. So that is official now. I believe. I don't know who hit that first. Josh Carpenter did get notes of a, notes that layoffs were coming this morning. I guess the memo hit sometime around lunch. 56 people who worked for the PJ Tour now were let go. And I believe it was, I have it. Let me check my text or maybe it's public now. 73, was it? 73 people or 73 open positions were just eliminated or not filled. So 56 human beings, which is sad. You don't want to see people lose their jobs. I did get an inside the moat image of spitballing on a company wide Zoom, which would just be among the worst ways to go. So yeah, they're cutting people.

Speaker 3:
[31:14] Man, we sure are spitballing, aren't we?

Speaker 2:
[31:16] Cutting costs and cutting Hawaii, which sticks. I think we've come to enjoy Hawaii, but see the whole chessboard they're trying to create with this different schedule.

Speaker 3:
[31:31] It should open up. Maybe we could get another week in Sea Island now that we got rid of Hawaii.

Speaker 2:
[31:39] That would be gross. We don't need any more Sea Island golf.

Speaker 3:
[31:43] I can't believe there's an event in Sea Island and Hilton Head.

Speaker 2:
[31:51] Yeah. What's another one we should add in there? Kiowa. Just throw Kiowa in there. Just get the whole ring up the way. Yeah. Could do Congaree.

Speaker 3:
[32:00] I think they could host probably like six events in South Carolina if they wanted.

Speaker 2:
[32:05] Yeah. PGA Tour done with Hawaii, which is sad. You mentioned-

Speaker 3:
[32:12] Did you read the Brody Miller piece about LIV?

Speaker 2:
[32:16] I read it on the flight yesterday. Spending $100 million a month, $30 million an event. Is that right? Without purses included.

Speaker 3:
[32:24] Insane. There's no bailout here.

Speaker 2:
[32:30] You mean like fundraising does replace the PIF?

Speaker 3:
[32:34] There's no world which you raise the funds to run the tour the way you've been running it. If after reading that article, it's just like they have been so negligent financially. Even, okay, we have this money, the PIF is backing us. This is financial negligence, what they've been doing.

Speaker 2:
[32:59] Well, I wouldn't say they started with a lot of good actors. They started with some bad actors who had an endless war chest and just started pissing money down the drain. It's very logical to see how this happened. And now they've gotten to a point where in year four where they're used to the status quo of like, this is what we spend on an event. And it's just, yeah, it's insane. And you know what? You could see a world where it persists. I think like not at the $30 million of an event. And everyone's like, they told us LIV would be dead. Luke Alvey will come on to Twitter. They said, the CGM said it was going to die and here we are. But it's going to be like, you know, who knows? Could be 15 guys playing in St. Apoor for 150 grand. I don't know, but it's still a lot.

Speaker 3:
[33:53] I can't, I can't wait for the the the Kieran Vincent, Kieran and Scott Vincent era of LIV Golf.

Speaker 2:
[34:01] I don't, you know, I don't know if it's like that. It might be bad for golf that this like failed so poorly and there's nothing pushing forward, pushing the tour forward anymore.

Speaker 3:
[34:11] Honestly, here's two things can be true. Golf needed disruption. It needed to evolve. LIV Golf is also the worst possible disrupter that golf could have ever had because they basically just blown a bunch of money. And now anybody that ever is going to like think about doing something unique is be like, well, LIV Golf failed with $5 billion. No, LIV Golf failed because they have a bunch of dipshits running the business and bad act.

Speaker 2:
[34:47] Yeah, and people who are having to just cash in personally without actually wanting to build anything of substance. They want to just personally cash in. And I'm not even talking about the players.

Speaker 3:
[34:56] But I don't know who all these people that are huge LIV fans. Again, I feel like, yeah, LIV fans probably hate us. But I think there's a lot of PGA Tour people that hate us too.

Speaker 2:
[35:13] Well, they hated us from the start. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:16] So I think like, we've pretty much called balls of strikes for this whole thing. But there is no possible way that this league operates at all like the way they're operating currently post-new investor. If they're able to get anybody to invest in this thing. The only way it keeps going the way it's going is if the PIF decides to keep pouring and lighting money on fire, which they obviously seem to not be interested in doing anymore.

Speaker 2:
[36:02] Yeah, it's sad to see it peter out in the way that it is, but it's not unexpected. It's not unexpected at all. You mentioned Harbor Town. Did you see the ratings?

Speaker 3:
[36:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:18] I think it's insane that golf happens like four days after Rory putts out or Scotty putts out to win a Masters. We did this in your review. It came up. I think for golf, diehards were tapped out. No, thank you. The Travelers ratings seem to be monstrous. RBC Heritage continues to be a monster. This was, I believe Josh Carpenter had it. Who else with ratings? Final round was biggest of the year. Just barely, just barely behind the Players Championship. Just barely down from last years, which was a 23-year high. I don't know. Maybe just the casuals get in, watch the Masters and then they come back to the comfort of it the following Sunday. I can't do golf like with any, take it seriously after you do the highest stakes possible. But it does seem like it works from a television ratings standpoint, which seems to matter to the current regime. What else do we have? Ryder Cup tickets going way up at a dare manner. I think there are a lot of dipshits in charge, not just at LIV. I think a lot of people are motivated by a lot of the wrong things these days, and you see it across different sports. It was interesting that talking to some people on our team as we were waiting to board our flight, they're like, there's just too much golf, it's on too many platforms. I just don't watch any of it now. I don't give a shit because you have so many people motivated to quote unquote innovate and grow their own little lane, and what you end up with is just a lot of different overly overcooked properties. No, it's not surprising. They'll probably get people to pay, which was the Bethpage status or at least corporations to pay. Yeah, I don't know. It sucks for the Irish golf fan or European golf fan. What's the total? 575 bucks or something for a ticket to one of the worst golf units here?

Speaker 3:
[38:33] Yeah, I think it's 585. For the worst spectating experience in maybe all of sports. I think that was, I forgot who. I was talking to somebody Super Bowl week that's like a fan of it, that covers another sport who said, yeah, I went to the Ryder Cup. It was the worst spectating experience I've ever had at a sporting event.

Speaker 2:
[38:57] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[38:58] So, there you go.

Speaker 2:
[38:59] It sucks.

Speaker 3:
[39:01] And it costs maybe more than, more than almost any sporting event.

Speaker 2:
[39:08] Other news, we'll quickly whip around, we'll get to Walk Up Music here. It seems like Lytham is getting the 2028 open. I think this is a report from James Corrigan. A lot of people, even just when we were over there in Scotland, were hoping and thinking Muirfield would make its return to the Rota that year. Seems like 29 is a lot of people saying Portmarnock in Ireland, Dublin, which would be the first venture outside of the United Kingdom, I believe. 29 for Portmarnock, Muirfield 28. And then 30 is, I think, Liverpool. There's an anniversary for Bobby Jones there. So if that sort of layout goes according to plan, Muirfield seems to be out now for 28, let them in, and Muirfield not on the horizon again, really, maybe until 31, which stinks.

Speaker 3:
[40:02] But. Yeah, 31 might. Yeah, because it can't be 32 either, because that's the old course.

Speaker 2:
[40:08] So think about.

Speaker 3:
[40:10] Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2:
[40:12] About a while since Litham was in the spotlight, I should say.

Speaker 3:
[40:16] You know the last one they hosted?

Speaker 2:
[40:20] Big earn, right? Adam Scott. Tough Adam Scott finished there. Yeah. So that's a little surprising. You know, I saw Renaissance has re-upped with the Scottish going through 2030. I doubt that like played specifically in the RNA decision, but not official yet. It's not out yet. Litham will get the women's open this summer there. So get a peek at it then.

Speaker 3:
[40:45] Pretty good list of winners at Litham.

Speaker 2:
[40:48] Yeah, I agree. And someone was telling me-

Speaker 3:
[40:52] Bobby Jones, Bobby Locke, Peter Thompson, Bob Charles, Tony Jacqueline, Gary Player, Savvy Twice, Tommy Dockers, Tommy Lehman.

Speaker 2:
[41:03] Big earn.

Speaker 3:
[41:04] Duvall and big earn.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] You know, someone was telling me this about another one. I think it might have been Burkdale. Where is there a bad list of winners for Open Championship Road of It? Like they say this about everyone. Muirfield's list of, like it is, it is an incredible old course. Incredible. Is there a bad one? Like it's kind of a limited universe. There's like eight to 10 courses depending on the era. And they've been playing it for 150 years. So like, is there a bad list of winners at a road? I don't know. It just, every course says that. But let them, another one has a good list of winners. So I think that does it. I think we've hit most of the news I want to touch on.

Speaker 3:
[41:48] Is this, you know, I love, I love this place. But could you maybe argue that the old course has some stinky winners?

Speaker 2:
[42:02] I thought you might go there. Who are the bad ones?

Speaker 3:
[42:07] I mean, John Daly, not like the greatest career.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3:
[42:14] The course of nature, though.

Speaker 2:
[42:15] Got Tiger, it's got Seve, it's got Jack.

Speaker 3:
[42:18] I mean, Louie isn't going to go down as like, you know, this great, but Louie who stays in capital P problem in majors.

Speaker 2:
[42:28] Zatch.

Speaker 3:
[42:29] Zatch.

Speaker 2:
[42:31] Cam.

Speaker 3:
[42:32] And Cam, the, the, the Cam Smith's gonna look bad because then he went to LIV and didn't give two shits about golf.

Speaker 2:
[42:38] He was done. That was it.

Speaker 3:
[42:40] So I don't think the old qualifies, maybe.

Speaker 2:
[42:44] It might be worse than the ones we're talking about. I don't know where Trune sits. Trune had, has obviously some prominent winners, but some Todd Hamilton's been in there.

Speaker 3:
[42:54] You know, I think a big mark against the old is, is back to back winners of Jack Burns and Hugh Kirkaldi.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:03] And in 1888 and 1891. I don't know much about those guys.

Speaker 2:
[43:13] Well, they probably PGA Tour will count them as one of their 1,000 unique winners to get Kamiyan. It's fraudulent. Mr. 1000.

Speaker 3:
[43:21] Why you got to go at Kamiyan?

Speaker 2:
[43:22] I'm not going at it.

Speaker 3:
[43:23] That's uncalled for. Uncalled for. Absolutely no reason to go there.

Speaker 2:
[43:29] No reason to go there. All right. That does it for this Whip Around Friday. Let's get to Walk Up Music. The Zurich Classic is ongoing. Zurich. As we record, Alex Smalley and Hayden Springer are your leaders by A Shot. Went low 14 under. I would assume that's the best fall format if we're going 14. So we're going to go alt shot Friday, Sunday. I mean, it's just the Mule Parade down there. If I'm just being honest, it's just Mules on Parade in New Orleans. But that's great. That's what it's there for. So I love the Billy Horschel, Tom Hoagy pairing at T4 right now, sitting pretty. Let's do some Walk Up Music.

Speaker 3:
[44:13] All right. Let me get this thing dialed up here.

Speaker 2:
[44:15] GPC Louisiana. Sounds like the boys have put in a lot of the work, and you've sort of pumped it. Have you outsourced this from your earliest days, growing up as a company?

Speaker 3:
[44:24] I got a lot going on right now.

Speaker 2:
[44:25] I know you do.

Speaker 3:
[44:27] I didn't. I got us going, though. I did the most important thing. I called PJ up last night. I said, we got to start working on some Walk Up Music, and I got him cooking, and next thing I know, he sent me a list of like 12.

Speaker 2:
[44:42] Wait. Jeff Ogilvie is playing this, and he's in featured groups on PGA Tour a lot.

Speaker 3:
[44:47] Him and Cam Davison, Brandt and Keith Mitchell.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] They're doing reconnaissance. You love that when a real tour event just serves as reconnaissance for the exhibition match play at the end of the year.

Speaker 3:
[45:00] I know that Jeff needs to scout out, scout Keith Mitchell and Brandt up close. They should get some advantage. Whoever wins, Brandt or Ogilvie, should get some advantage in the matches. I don't know what that would be. All right, ready to start.

Speaker 2:
[45:22] This field stinks. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3:
[45:26] This isn't going to be on YouTube, right? For anybody listening in YouTube, you're going to have to head over to Spotify. No, I mean, we put it on YouTube last year and it did not get taken down. So I'm going to attempt, if you're watching this on YouTube, congratulations.

Speaker 2:
[45:40] If this video does not go on YouTube, sorry, I don't know what to tell you. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[45:46] All right. Are you ready?

Speaker 2:
[45:48] Let's do it. You're getting sloppy.

Speaker 3:
[45:51] Where are we going to start here? We'll start with this one.

Speaker 2:
[46:17] Who sings that? What was that?

Speaker 3:
[46:18] Angus and Julia, I think. Big jet plane.

Speaker 2:
[46:22] Yeah, the plane, I immediately went to Oleson, Piss Bear. Just assuming that was where the reference being made there, but he's not in the field. Take you for a ride on a big jet plane. Who could this be? Jet plane. Steve Marino, Ernie Ells. I'm all over the place here. Is it Jacob Skaab Oleson, the other Oleson, PBJ?

Speaker 3:
[46:51] No, no, no. With RNP? You're thinking too hard about this.

Speaker 2:
[46:54] All right.

Speaker 3:
[46:54] This is our beautiful boy that got his pilot's license this year.

Speaker 2:
[46:58] Oh, the Toast Man, Toasty.

Speaker 3:
[47:01] The Toast Man's taking his partner on a ride on a big jet plane.

Speaker 2:
[47:05] I love that. He's got a little mini guy. He likes to land on water because he's paying for the airport landing space. It's too expensive. All right. Toasty and Tampus.

Speaker 3:
[47:17] For those that have never listened to this, they used to have Walk Up Music. They might still have Walk Up Music.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] We can never confirm or deny it. They still have it. They don't promote it like they used to.

Speaker 3:
[47:27] We make up what their Walk Up songs should be for these teams. All right. Up next.

Speaker 2:
[47:32] If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son. Sudarshan? No, he doesn't. He needs a girl. He doesn't. Girls are a problem for him right now. 99 problems. God, I'm rusty here. Who is it?

Speaker 3:
[48:04] It's two guys that were major problems in the era when this song was very relevant.

Speaker 2:
[48:12] Who's that?

Speaker 3:
[48:14] Nick Watney and Charlie Hoffman.

Speaker 2:
[48:17] Nick Watney is playing this event? God. The Running Rebs, Watney and Hoffman, are they still the Running Rebels? Has that been canceled? I don't even know. God, Larry Johnson and Stacey Ogman coming out of retirement to play for the Knicks this weekend. You've got Hoffman and Watney on playing real PGA Tour events. Love that, okay.

Speaker 3:
[48:44] All right, we'll go with this one. I know I can see.

Speaker 2:
[49:00] It's just a matter of when, not if. This has to be Sudarshan Yelamaraju making another plea in his cording of the great Sidney Sweetie, right? Who's he with? Ryan Gerard. Love that. Is that Sudarshan Yelamaraju?

Speaker 3:
[49:18] Yelamaraju say that he could treat Sidney Sweetie better than Scooter Braun.

Speaker 2:
[49:23] As anyone could, hopefully. Scooter. God. Can't take somebody named Scooter, seriously. Okay. That was a good one. All right. One for three.

Speaker 3:
[49:33] All right. This player recently collected a trophy.

Speaker 2:
[49:55] Recently collected, I was, it's, it's, I mean, I was wondering if it was the Canadian do of Pendy and Hughes, since that seemed to be the only Drake fans left are the Canadians just claiming them as their own, but it doesn't, the, they don't line up that well. Is it Tom Kim being player of the year on the TGL collecting trophies? Hell yeah.

Speaker 3:
[50:16] It's just up in here, you know, you could be a part of this.

Speaker 2:
[50:18] Yeah, please be a part of this, PJ. It's some commentary in here.

Speaker 3:
[50:22] Again, I'm happy you got that one.

Speaker 2:
[50:25] That one is pretty happy with. I love it. Andy's hint helped me there, collected a recent trope.

Speaker 3:
[50:31] All right. Up next.

Speaker 2:
[50:45] Okay, so it's obviously not Talor Gooch, but that's where you run to. It could be.

Speaker 3:
[50:53] Could be Talor.

Speaker 2:
[50:54] Are there any burly boys in the field? I just haven't looked at this field deep enough.

Speaker 3:
[51:02] I mean, that's a problem. That's kind of the first thing you need to understand. I understand.

Speaker 2:
[51:07] I understand. Is it somebody from Oklahoma? And are there any burly boys? Obviously it's somebody from Oklahoma.

Speaker 3:
[51:13] It's the other Oklahoma team.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] Oklahoma State.

Speaker 3:
[51:16] Zach Boschew and Sam Stephens.

Speaker 2:
[51:18] Sam Stephens, Zach Boschew. Love that. Two Oakey State legends.

Speaker 3:
[51:23] Zach Boschew was fantastic. He is best.

Speaker 2:
[51:29] We need a full lunch with Boschew, I think. I have it confirmed that clearly he and Hovland were roommates and Hovland's English intonation, cadence and tone is like a dead reiner of Boschew. They talk exactly the same because that's how he kind of came into English. It's crazy if you look at Boschew now because everybody knows how Hovland talks. You just see Hovland. So, all right. Ain't no love in Oklahoma.

Speaker 3:
[51:56] Here's a late submission from a friend of the pod, John Ezekiewicz here.

Speaker 2:
[52:15] Someone with anger and self-flagellation problems, really hates them, like kind of beats themself up too much. Is it Wyndham Clark? All right, there we go. Taylor Moore, Wyndham Clark are walking up to that classic. Love it. I'm hitting these, all right.

Speaker 3:
[52:35] Let's do this one.

Speaker 2:
[52:45] What song is that? What a shitty song. What a terrible lyric that is. I mean, honestly, I was listening to that as I looked at the pairing of Bryce Garnett and Lee Hodges, which is just like two made up country musician names, which doesn't necessarily fit. Somebody from the South.

Speaker 3:
[53:10] No, it's the Gentleman in Trading. Oh, come on, it was on a T. It was right there.

Speaker 2:
[53:19] I was like in Southern more than anything.

Speaker 3:
[53:21] Well, he went to Arkansas.

Speaker 2:
[53:23] That's true. That's fair. PBJ, now known as the Gentleman in Trading. Sorry.

Speaker 3:
[53:31] No longer Pissfair Jr. Well, still Pissfair Jr., but he's improved.

Speaker 2:
[53:36] With RNP, I love that pairing, the two Danes. Good pairing.

Speaker 3:
[53:41] All right, here you go.

Speaker 2:
[53:58] Hogs, I was thinking razorbacks. Writing a book. Boats, I'm like going in a couple of different directions. What should I drill down on, PJ?

Speaker 3:
[54:08] The book.

Speaker 2:
[54:09] The book. Who wrote a book? What's the answer here?

Speaker 3:
[54:16] Dan Brown, esteemed author.

Speaker 2:
[54:21] Playing with John Perry in the band Perry. That's a good pairing. Did you see the two of them were bouncing around New Orleans? Yeah, Bourbon Street. That's good.

Speaker 3:
[54:30] Good contact.

Speaker 2:
[54:32] The Euros just have all the personality, and these Americans just come up like total AJGA dial tones. It's ridiculous. Those guys are funny. Perry and Brown. All right. Gordon Lightfoot, the wreck of the Edmonds Fitzgerald. Here we go. Here we go. We're no longer, we've lost John Robb, Scottie Scheffler, Jordan Spieth. Who else? We've lost the tugboat. The tugboat, Ryan Palmer has been wrecked and he's now with Shan Kim. He's still a hugger.

Speaker 3:
[55:20] The boat has been capsized.

Speaker 2:
[55:29] That was a proper lake. Proper lake. There's no boat getting wrecked on Lake Erie.

Speaker 3:
[55:35] I had multiple options for this and I said, I'm going to Edmonds Fitzgerald because I know Lake Erie will come up.

Speaker 2:
[55:42] Yeah. That was a good one. Lake Erie.

Speaker 3:
[55:45] Up next year.

Speaker 2:
[55:46] Superior. Is that like from some Saturday Night Live skit, like the Polar Bear Arms one? That's not a real song. It is apparently a real song by AJR, if anyone's interested. Tom Kim's already off the board for Thirsty. Who is it? Which Thirst Bucket are we pointing a finger at with Thirsty?

Speaker 3:
[56:20] He's a man that had an entire full swing episode devoted to him. He continues to have enormous amounts of media. Meanwhile, I think the focus needs to shift to making cuts. Yeah, another piece of media this week even.

Speaker 2:
[56:40] Who's that? Who is it?

Speaker 3:
[56:42] Neil Shipley.

Speaker 2:
[56:43] Oh, God. What did they do this week with them? He was just at a Golf Digest, like another profile for reasons remaining unclear. Is he thirsty or is the media just like absolute saps?

Speaker 3:
[56:58] I think you've got to be putting yourself in these situations, you would think.

Speaker 2:
[57:03] God, between he and Crystal Lampric, it's like a Barclay Manute Bowl situation, 1976ers. Those are two unique. I love that. All right.

Speaker 3:
[57:16] It's a good analysis of that there. All right.

Speaker 2:
[57:27] Oh, a turtle, clear turtle.

Speaker 3:
[57:32] This is dirty what you did to this beautiful boy.

Speaker 2:
[57:35] Absolutely not dirty.

Speaker 3:
[57:37] This is just a statement of fact.

Speaker 2:
[57:40] Who's the slow play? Got publicly yelled at already once this year, very notably recently. Oh, Fitz at Valspar on, God, who was that? Oh, ADDC. ADDC. There we go. Who's he with? Who's he with? They should start. Love that. Avis Chatfield. All right. Love that.

Speaker 3:
[58:05] All right. Up next.

Speaker 2:
[58:22] PJ is just loving himself.

Speaker 3:
[58:24] This is Andy. This is good.

Speaker 2:
[58:27] Fina. Is that Fina? No, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[58:30] You got to go deeper down. Deeper down in the well.

Speaker 2:
[58:35] Duff?

Speaker 3:
[58:36] I mean, that would have been a good choice. You could use it for Duff Daddy.

Speaker 2:
[58:40] Throw it a few back.

Speaker 3:
[58:41] I would say deeper down than Duff.

Speaker 2:
[58:44] What? Jason Duff, what a major.

Speaker 3:
[58:49] Like deeper.

Speaker 2:
[58:51] Bird? Reeve?

Speaker 3:
[58:53] I mean, that would be a good one too. This one fits a lot. We went with James Haught and Kyle Stanley for this one.

Speaker 2:
[58:59] Oh my God. How is Stanley in the field?

Speaker 3:
[59:04] All those were acceptable answers to be completely honest.

Speaker 2:
[59:07] How did Kyle Stanley get in the field? It's not like Han has status.

Speaker 3:
[59:11] I think Han probably had the status if I had to guess.

Speaker 2:
[59:14] Right. Like the peripheral.

Speaker 3:
[59:16] Then he invited Stanley.

Speaker 2:
[59:17] It's insane.

Speaker 3:
[59:19] What do you think they're talking about?

Speaker 2:
[59:22] I mean, probably Roll App. Yeah. I would imagine the Future Competitions Committee is what they're talking about. All right.

Speaker 3:
[59:29] This is a Joseph submission here.

Speaker 2:
[59:50] On the MTV.

Speaker 3:
[59:55] Money is for nothing.

Speaker 2:
[59:56] I know, money's for nothing. Kicks for free. I would say it actually works for both people in this pair.

Speaker 3:
[60:04] Yeah, very well.

Speaker 2:
[60:06] Very well. Somebody who loves their money, wants their money.

Speaker 1:
[60:11] There's one way of saying it.

Speaker 2:
[60:13] Wants their money. Who is it?

Speaker 3:
[60:24] Max Grazerman and Tony Fina.

Speaker 2:
[60:32] That is good by Joseph. Let's make sure we're not going any farther. Let's start legal attorneys intervene here. Money for nothing. Interesting. An interesting choice term to associate with those players. That works for both. That really does work for both. Grazerman maybe wants his prize money in Bitcoin.

Speaker 3:
[60:57] I think I told the story about how my wife and I went and crashed weddings when we were looking for a wedding band.

Speaker 2:
[61:07] I don't think I've heard. No, I don't think I've heard that.

Speaker 3:
[61:11] Well, you talk to these bands and they want, this is now eight years ago, they want $7,000, $10,000, $15,000 and it's like, well, I haven't even heard you play it.

Speaker 2:
[61:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[61:24] So we would dress up on Saturdays.

Speaker 2:
[61:29] This is amazing.

Speaker 3:
[61:29] We would go get a nice meal and then we would bounce, we'd talk to the bands and we'd be like, where are you playing?

Speaker 2:
[61:38] I was going to say, how did you know where they were?

Speaker 3:
[61:41] They told us and we would go and we'd go for three songs. We wouldn't drink anything.

Speaker 2:
[61:47] Okay. So you're not putting a dent in any kind of-

Speaker 3:
[61:50] We would just show up, watch the bands. We would get nice and lubed up before. Go watch the bands.

Speaker 2:
[61:57] Relate conditions for the wedding night. Yes. Where you had a few glasses of champagne or beers.

Speaker 3:
[62:04] And leave.

Speaker 2:
[62:04] All right. All right. That's amazing. How many did you do?

Speaker 3:
[62:08] A few times, like a few days. I mean, we were evaluating like six bands. So maybe that seems like the number of maybe five or six. We did this and it was perfect. We had a perfect record. Nobody, you know, and the last wedding, I ran into a guy I knew in college. He's like, what are you doing here? And I was like, like, listen, do not tell anybody about. We're thinking about this band for a wedding. And we talk and we catch it up. And I'm like, just please don't tell anybody. We're not drinking anything. We're just watching the band. And sure enough, like two seconds later, I look to my left and he's talking to the bride. And like pointing at us. And I just, my wife, I'm like, we have to leave right now. But anyways, the love is-

Speaker 2:
[63:00] Were they playing Dire Straits or what?

Speaker 3:
[63:04] Well, I think this is a segue into the next song. The segue into this song is that when we were, our one rule with any band we hired was under no circumstances could this song be played at our wedding. This is one of the worst songs of all time. Of all time. Of all period the end. The year we got married, this song was just every wedding was-

Speaker 2:
[63:27] It was a modern-

Speaker 3:
[63:29] I probably offended a lot of people with it.

Speaker 2:
[63:41] I agree. That's terrible. That needs to be eradicated. Who sings that?

Speaker 3:
[63:47] Walk the moon. So take that feeling and look at these teams and who needs to be eradicated. Well, that statement could apply to 80 percent of us. However-

Speaker 2:
[64:01] That's in that-

Speaker 3:
[64:04] It's the most generic- The most generic milk toast mayonnaise.

Speaker 2:
[64:09] Shut up and dance with me. Don't you dare look back. I mean, it's in that sort of that cohort or that gaggle of that damn, the stupid song, Kick by the Ocean. Like these all sound the same and they play them at these gatherings. Shut up and dance.

Speaker 3:
[64:25] They're sung by little packers as you would say.

Speaker 2:
[64:27] I didn't say that. You said that. So the cook is people who can just go away forever or don't play this? Yeah, the most like normal, average, Mark Hubbard and Ryan Brem.

Speaker 3:
[64:42] Oh, that's so disrespectful to Homeless Hubs. Homeless Hubs might be the best snowboarder on tour.

Speaker 2:
[64:50] Danny Walker and Jimmy Stanger.

Speaker 3:
[64:52] I mean, that's a good guess. You're getting closer.

Speaker 2:
[64:54] Again, this could apply to a lot of people.

Speaker 3:
[64:56] These are guys that have been around for a long time. We got a lot of tape on them.

Speaker 2:
[65:00] That has not somehow gone away yet. A lot of tape on them.

Speaker 3:
[65:05] A lot of tape.

Speaker 2:
[65:06] Damon and Shreelman.

Speaker 3:
[65:08] No.

Speaker 2:
[65:09] Damon's a little bit of a fun little fun. A lot of people. That'll offend a lot of people. Scott Piercy and Taylor Montgomery.

Speaker 3:
[65:16] No, we had a lot of other options. We decided to stay away from that.

Speaker 2:
[65:20] What, the January 6th choir or something for that? Who is it?

Speaker 3:
[65:26] I don't know if there are any songs about True Social.

Speaker 2:
[65:30] I'm sure there are.

Speaker 3:
[65:32] We're going with Rue Knox and Pepe Peter Valdotti.

Speaker 2:
[65:36] What? How is Rue Knox in the field?

Speaker 3:
[65:41] It's from Pepe Peter. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[65:45] That is milquetoast. Yeah. We've had enough. We've had enough of Rue Knox and Pepe Peter. The tour we'll soldier on. They can become a trading card. We put in a merch shipment 25 years from now. That's it. That's their, yeah. Go live a great life, but just not on tour. All right.

Speaker 3:
[66:05] All right.

Speaker 2:
[66:23] Man, it's a good Nelly song. Must be the money. Who could we be referring to?

Speaker 3:
[66:34] Just here to pick up some points and probably a big check.

Speaker 2:
[66:37] I was going to say, they're not Brooks and Lowry.

Speaker 3:
[66:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:40] Yeah. Who needs his points, right? Just literally.

Speaker 3:
[66:43] Little bit of money, little bit of cash.

Speaker 2:
[66:45] Zero point to them being there, really. There's no reason that either of them should be playing the Zurich.

Speaker 3:
[66:51] Well, I mean, he literally admitted it on television.

Speaker 2:
[66:54] Right. He did? Yes.

Speaker 3:
[66:55] He said, I'm just here for FedEx Cup points.

Speaker 2:
[66:57] Got it. He's inching closer and closer to SIG status, correct? He's waiting around at Harbor Town. All right. Must be the money. Love that. Why is Lowry playing this event? That I couldn't tell you. I think he's a Zurich ambassador.

Speaker 3:
[67:10] I think he just wants to get a win. Well, that too, but I believe he's a Zurich ambassador.

Speaker 2:
[67:16] Okay. Must be the money then. Okay. What else do we have? Anything left?

Speaker 3:
[67:20] We got a couple more.

Speaker 2:
[67:22] All right.

Speaker 3:
[67:22] Do you want to give more, Yvonne?

Speaker 2:
[67:24] Let them rip. I'm floundering, but those are still pretty good. All right. I mean, that started, I was like, what is it? I've never heard this song. Is this some new kids theme music of some sort? I'm not familiar with.

Speaker 3:
[67:48] We never discussed this on this podcast, so I wanted it to make it in.

Speaker 2:
[67:52] The Rhino Jive? Is that what it was called? We never talked about this. Is it Casey Jarvis, the South African?

Speaker 3:
[67:59] No, there's a team full of South Africans.

Speaker 2:
[68:01] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[68:02] Yeah, potential Southern Guard replacements.

Speaker 2:
[68:05] I mean, there's going to be a Southern Guard six months from now. But we'll still have that song as far as I'm concerned forever. Where are my South Africans? Who is it? Oh, Van Royen and Bezeydenhout. AVR and Christiane Bezeydenhout. I'm going with that one.

Speaker 3:
[68:24] It's not a platter for you.

Speaker 2:
[68:26] I'm walking through. I think some of these are pretty good.

Speaker 3:
[68:30] I got to be honest.

Speaker 2:
[68:31] I mean, the Christopher, the Christopher pairing is, I love that one. Yeah, I was trying to think of that.

Speaker 3:
[68:38] We should have done a Criss Cross song for that.

Speaker 2:
[68:40] Yeah, there you go. That would have been good.

Speaker 3:
[68:42] Damn. All right. I think that's about it.

Speaker 2:
[68:47] Those are perfect.

Speaker 3:
[68:48] I'm losing track. Oh, here.

Speaker 2:
[69:04] Who is that?

Speaker 3:
[69:06] Ain't nobody do it like it.

Speaker 2:
[69:07] It's Aaron Carter. Ain't nobody do it like Aaron Carter. I was going to say, is that the Backstreet Boys, little younger brother? Aaron Rye? Is that where we're going? Aaron Rye?

Speaker 3:
[69:16] Aaron's party, baby.

Speaker 2:
[69:18] This is a Gen Z collection. Aaron, that song. Aaron Carter is not Gen Z. Way too old for me.

Speaker 3:
[69:25] All right. Up next.

Speaker 2:
[69:42] I love the thought of some crusty vet just pairing with a young up-and-comer. Don't you worry, child.

Speaker 3:
[69:51] That's a way to take it. This is a Joseph submission. This one's really good, I think. Do you know who the artist of that song is?

Speaker 2:
[69:58] No. It's one of these electric folks.

Speaker 3:
[70:03] That would be Swedish House Mafia.

Speaker 2:
[70:05] Okay. Swedish House Mafia. I knew that much. I had the right genre. Ludwig is not in it. Who is the Swedish House Mafia? Is it Pontus, Pontus Nyholm, and Jesper Svensson? Be Dratty, Ambassador. Pontus Nyholm and Jesper Svensson. That's good. Swedish House Mafia. I guess you would need to know that before you go around guessing.

Speaker 3:
[70:35] All right.

Speaker 2:
[70:35] I think I did all right. You're giggly over there. Who sings that?

Speaker 3:
[70:53] I needed to work one Eagle song in here.

Speaker 2:
[70:55] It's the Eagle song. Eagles, oh. Who is it? Who's this for?

Speaker 3:
[71:00] Brendan, I can't tell you why this event exists. I can't tell you why half of these people are in the field. I can't tell you what the point of this event is.

Speaker 2:
[71:09] That is the song of this event.

Speaker 3:
[71:12] I can't tell you why.

Speaker 2:
[71:16] Oh, that's the whole event. I was looking for a particular pair that would illustrate that.

Speaker 3:
[71:22] Basically, any pair.

Speaker 2:
[71:23] The theme song for the event. Shank and Duncan. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[71:28] I can't tell you why. From a friend of the pod, Secondhand News for Shank and couldn't get it in. Shank and Duncan, Secondhand News.

Speaker 2:
[71:39] God, there's so many bad pairings. It's really remarkable. Matthew Pavan and Martin Kuvra. What's going on there? The Frenchman duo. What a bad event. You know what? Here's my hard sell. Go outside this Saturday and Sunday. No offense to the Catalon Zone. No offense to the PGA Tour, who seems to be laying people off. Just go outside. Don't watch this event. It stinks.

Speaker 3:
[72:07] What? It might be a fun finish.

Speaker 2:
[72:10] All right. Maybe it will be. All right.

Speaker 3:
[72:11] I'll think The Shot's fun.

Speaker 2:
[72:13] I would argue it usually is a fun finish. Monitor the situation. Come in Sunday at 3 o'clock, then do that. But don't do anything before then. So all right. That was good. Walk Up Music is hot with the boys' contributions help. Andy, that was one of the great segments you ever invented. So that was a good one. That was a good one. All right. I got close to 50 percent, which is hard.

Speaker 3:
[72:36] You refused to guess on some of them.

Speaker 2:
[72:41] That's not true. I eventually got there. I just took some pondering. All right. That was good. That does it for this Friday episode. Thank you for listening. We'll be back Monday. Recap it all. Watch closely to hope no one breaks their leg jumping in a pool and see who wins all shot on Sunday. We will talk to you on Monday.