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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 3:
[01:39] Do I, really?

Speaker 1:
[01:40] You do.

Speaker 3:
[01:41] Really?

Speaker 1:
[01:41] Like you're wearing a Timepiece shirt, and then you said, yo, I'm gonna go put on a hoodie. And then you throw on a Timepiece sweater.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[01:59] He's been doing that since day one. That's an easy play. No Freezer this week.

Speaker 3:
[02:05] What the hell does he have going on?

Speaker 1:
[02:07] He typed in our chat and he said, yo, guys, I can't make the pod tomorrow because he lost to a hater in golf.

Speaker 2:
[02:14] What is that happy with anything?

Speaker 1:
[02:16] DoD's thing is he plays haters in videos, right?

Speaker 3:
[02:19] No, I understand the concept, but what does that have to do with today?

Speaker 1:
[02:22] I guess, I mean, you know Freezer when he loses. He probably got absolutely obliterated last night, like tanked. Yeah, that's... Well, I guess, I guess DoD plays haters all the time, but DoD found a Freezer hater. I feel like the difference between like a DoD hater and someone that, like, if you hate Freezer tarps, you probably really like hate him. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, 100%. What did you guys get up to this week? Santa Cruz, I saw you were training with Sugar Sean.

Speaker 4:
[02:53] Yeah, I was out in Arizona, popped into Sugar Sean's gym, trained with Tim Welch, played pickleball with the boys. It's a super dope spot. They have like this crazy gym, all these MMA fighters there, and then directly connected to it. It's like the pickleball dojo, they call it. There's just a bunch of pickleball courts, ping pong and shit.

Speaker 1:
[03:12] So what'd you guys do for training? Did you get your ass whooped or no?

Speaker 4:
[03:15] Got my ass whooped, bro. I trained with Tim Welch, his coach, and well, dude, I was like worried because he was like, yeah, like MMA sparring is at 1030. And I'm like, bro, I don't do striking. I'm like, fuck, I don't know what he expects. But we rolled up there. I'm like, we'll see what happens. But we just basically did jiu-jitsu with Tim Welch and these other black belts there and just got worked. But not in a bad way.

Speaker 2:
[03:37] You didn't do any of the striking?

Speaker 4:
[03:40] No, there were dudes in the cage while we were doing jiu-jitsu, full on fist fighting. And all of them have fights May 2nd.

Speaker 2:
[03:49] They'll go easy on you. They'll match your energy, probably.

Speaker 4:
[03:53] Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[03:54] Did you work with Sugar at all?

Speaker 4:
[03:56] No, he's in fight camp. It's all scheduled out, super dialed in. I don't think he's trying to train my dumb ass while he's in camp. But we played pickleball.

Speaker 1:
[04:06] How is their pickleball game? Are they nasty?

Speaker 4:
[04:09] They're nasty. He had Joe Riggs on his team, who's a legend in the sport of MMA, but he's older, he retired. And so it was me and Tim Welch first, Sean and Joe Riggs, and so we were just targeting Riggs, and we won. But Sugar Sean's nasty at pickleball.

Speaker 1:
[04:28] Yeah, you kind of forget that Sugar Sean is fighting on the fucking White House card. I know.

Speaker 4:
[04:33] Bro, it's crazy, dude. Like, on the White House, that shit's coming up.

Speaker 2:
[04:37] Is it June?

Speaker 4:
[04:38] It is. And he's fighting, yeah, he's fighting Farrasahabi's brother, Farrasahabi. He's like this legendary coach. He was like GSP's coach. I want like just legendary. And that's going to be an amazing fight. And Sean was saying to us, like we interviewed him and he's like, he's like, I want to get like one of those sugar show wins, bro. Like, I want to remind people like what the fuck is up. And you look at his record, bro, it's insane. And it's like, sure, Merab, those fights are kind of not the best like stylistic matchup, but everything else, bro, is what 15 and two, 16 and two. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[05:12] Yeah, it's fucking.

Speaker 1:
[05:13] How's the hobbies?

Speaker 4:
[05:15] How's the hobbies? Good, man. So it's a hobby like for us, hobby is one of the most legendary, like rappers and jujitsu artists. And so like, but I don't know, man, I do think like Shug could get this win and then they'll make Marab, Pyotr Jan probably. And then we'll see how maybe like they make that fight again. But they could do Shug versus Pyotr Jan for the belt.

Speaker 3:
[05:37] That should be happening at the White House.

Speaker 1:
[05:38] That should have happened at the White House.

Speaker 4:
[05:41] Well, I mean, Shug's gonna hopefully knock out the hobby at the White House.

Speaker 3:
[05:44] Neon was streaming with the hobby yesterday in Canada. That guy's Canadian.

Speaker 1:
[05:49] I was supposed to link with them when I went to Montreal too, but just to meet them. But I was only there for a few hours for my green card. But also, Shug is my boy too, so I got to support the Canadian MMA, but Shug is probably my closest friend in MMA, someone I would actually consider a friend too. So it's like a sticky one night.

Speaker 3:
[06:11] That's all you got?

Speaker 4:
[06:12] Yeah, I'd be super chill. It's weird, bro. I just started filming with more UFC fighters and shit, and it does get weird. I'm like, oh shit. Like Cheeto Vera is fucking dope, right? Jesse, you've kicked with Cheeto. I'm like, shit, like I'm rocking a Sugar Sean shirt, you know, and that good. But I don't think a lot of those guys view it like that. I think they're they view it like, bro, we're trying to promote the sport and get more people into the sport, which makes them all more money.

Speaker 1:
[06:37] So I know because I've met probably almost every fighter now, too. So sometimes it's tough to say how you actually feel about what you think is going to happen in a fight knowing, oh, fuck, I'm going to run into these guys.

Speaker 4:
[06:51] Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 2:
[06:52] Should we talk some shit?

Speaker 3:
[06:54] No, I had Armand here at my house. He's here this weekend.

Speaker 1:
[06:58] How is that?

Speaker 3:
[06:59] He just talks so much shit all the time. He's like, yo, let's go play tennis. Let's go play. Let's play backgammon for money. And I know this chick who's like super hot and she plays backgammon and she's really good. And so I brought him back here and I was like, yeah, I don't even really want to play. She'll play you. So we hustled him for 5K. He paid and then he like tilted and walks in with 200K cash and like just slams it on the kitchen counter. And I was like, dude, I'm not playing you for that. And he's like, you don't even have this here. You don't have this here. And so I just went and grabbed, I have a Conor McGregor rookie card. And I was like, this is worth probably like 30. And then I grabbed just random shit. And he just freaked out. He's the funniest guy of all time. And while he was playing me.

Speaker 1:
[07:49] Armand's walking around with 200k cash.

Speaker 3:
[07:52] Yeah, he brought it in my house and slanted on my fucking thing. And I was like, because him and Ryan Garcia have a whole feud about how he beat Ryan out for something and Ryan didn't pay him for 40k. And he just kept talking to me about that. And I was like, dude, I'll pay whatever.

Speaker 2:
[08:06] What was that? Was that like, there was like boxing, but body shots only or some shit?

Speaker 3:
[08:10] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[08:11] I thought I saw something. They like in like some guy's living room, they were like, yeah, that's something happened. Like, how do you even pick a winner?

Speaker 3:
[08:17] I was a little like I had a few drinks, so I was like acting like a dumbass. And I had her playing Armand. And I would sit behind her and I'd play the clip on repeat of Dana saying, like, I'm not very happy with Armand right now in the UFC and just kept like trolling him. And he got pretty heated. So he left a little pissed. I don't know if we're supposed to put up. It was pretty funny. He paid. So it was good. Yeah, that was the night he came over.

Speaker 2:
[08:43] You guys kind of look alike.

Speaker 3:
[08:45] No, he was shitting on me. He's the fucking coolest guy ever, though.

Speaker 2:
[08:49] Same body style.

Speaker 1:
[08:50] He definitely robbed one of your any bird you were trying to wheel to. You probably left that out. That chick you invited over to hustle him.

Speaker 4:
[08:58] Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[09:00] She wasn't with me. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4:
[09:01] You see, he got kicked off a flight. Armand and his crew went on like an American Airlines flight or something and they ended up getting kicked off. I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 3:
[09:11] Yeah, I saw that. That's like his dream, though, to be like, get the jet ready.

Speaker 4:
[09:15] Yeah, yeah. Then he's like on a fucking private jet with like the lie down couches and shit. And he's like, all right, I'll take this. I don't know, man. I kind of feel what he's saying.

Speaker 2:
[09:22] That was like a marketing angle.

Speaker 4:
[09:24] Sometimes you get on.

Speaker 2:
[09:25] Like they just wanted this shot to like then cut to a jet.

Speaker 3:
[09:28] No, he's really about his content. I'll tell you that. Like that guy right there who has the camera that's Tom's best friend.

Speaker 4:
[09:36] Is that Pooch?

Speaker 3:
[09:36] He films everything with the little camera that... You know the camera is not where you walk around and it looks like it's just a little tripod? They bring that everywhere.

Speaker 4:
[09:44] I think they got on the flight and some people were just like rude to them. Sometimes like whatever, flight attendants or someone will just be kind of rude. And I just think those dudes don't play that shit. And they know that they can get off and be on a private jet. Did you guys see Ilya?

Speaker 1:
[09:59] Ilya did an interview with Ariel Hawani. I watched the whole thing. It was dope.

Speaker 3:
[10:04] I back Ilya on that. He's right, dude.

Speaker 1:
[10:07] What did he say?

Speaker 3:
[10:08] He talked a lot of shit. He's just like, this guy's so fucking st-

Speaker 1:
[10:11] He said like 30 different things.

Speaker 3:
[10:13] No, he was like, yeah, well, dude, it's your daddy's money. Quit fucking flexing it. Like, I don't know, a lot of that shit. You act like immature.

Speaker 1:
[10:21] You're saying that about Armand? Even though he was just at your house?

Speaker 3:
[10:24] Yeah, I agree with the flex. That was not his personal 200k, I don't think.

Speaker 2:
[10:28] He's a retard. He's dumb as fuck. Everything I saw about him on the internet is embarrassing.

Speaker 3:
[10:32] You agree with that? No, not that part. Just that you're not even rich. You're spending your father's money. That segment, I agree with.

Speaker 1:
[10:41] I mean, you and Armand are kind of similar though, no? Like, daddy's money thing?

Speaker 3:
[10:45] No, I don't get that. I don't flex that. And he can run away and do whatever he has to do. I have to show up and work. I actually was... I would say this to his face, like I love Armand, but I do think he kind of is missing that like killer mentality. Like, Temporia has that.

Speaker 4:
[11:02] I don't think so.

Speaker 3:
[11:03] I disagree with you. And I think you're wrong, Cedric. I'm going to cut you off because he's waiting for something he doesn't necessarily deserve. Like, he hasn't even really fought that many times in the UFC to fight Temporia. Temporia has knocked out Volk, Olivera and Max Holloway. Like that resume alone is like goaded. That's a goat sadist resume. Knockouts like that? What the fuck?

Speaker 4:
[11:26] It is.

Speaker 3:
[11:27] And I'm only saying that too, because I'm in a Temporia edit for saying that, and I'm really stoked. I'm going to send it to you guys actually right now.

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Speaker 4:
[13:02] The fact that he does have all this money and still does this is crazy. Because most professional fighters are fighting to make it. Like, that is a weird thing. It is unique, bro. You know, they say it's hard to grind when you wake up in satin sheets. So that's why fighters, when they start to make a bunch of money, oftentimes fall off. Because, like, bro, you don't want to wake up and go do 6 a.m. conditioning, 9 a.m. grappling, fucking 3 p.m. striking and all that shit. And he, Armand, does that. Like, you know, I think, like, there's a social media side and he goes and, like, has fun and gambles away his money, the stiny. But he does appear to, like, go back and do, like, extremely hard training, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 3:
[13:38] I thought about that. I thought about that a lot, too. And it is, there is a sense of every fighter in the UFC you can think of is fighting out of pure hunger and desire and need for money.

Speaker 4:
[13:48] Yeah, McGregor was a plumber in Ireland and he was like, he had a HBO series.

Speaker 3:
[13:53] It's the fucking sickest thing when he's in the ghettos in Ireland. But every every fighter like that.

Speaker 1:
[13:57] Ilya's got one coming out too.

Speaker 3:
[13:59] Yeah, his is going to be super sick.

Speaker 1:
[14:01] That'll be sick to watch. I wonder if it covers like any of the like relationship stuff that he obviously went through. I wonder like how raw it is.

Speaker 4:
[14:11] Yeah, to have all that money like Armin and still just grind is weird. It's different. It is. It's like, well, yeah, why didn't you just like, whatever, start a business and just kind of chill? Like he's like, no, I want to fucking fight the hardest dudes on the planet. It's kind of crazy. So there must be some dog in Armin that's just like, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[14:28] Well, he's a fucking beast.

Speaker 1:
[14:30] Yeah, he's a beast.

Speaker 3:
[14:31] His fucking conditioning, everything. He's strong as fuck.

Speaker 1:
[14:34] It's true. Ariel Hawani said too, like he asked him kind of about Justin Gaethje. He asked him about Islam. And Ilya's responses were kind of not too emotional, but when he asks him about Armon, Ilya starts going off. So they kind of said on the panel too, like I feel like the Armon-Ilya fight is potentially bigger than the Islam-Ilya fight. I don't know if it's bigger because I think Islam is such an international superstar, but I feel like personally me as a fan, I'm down to see the Armon fight just as much as the Islam fight.

Speaker 3:
[15:12] I think, well, dude, well, you just explained it. There's tension between Tupori and Armon. There's not really that tension there.

Speaker 1:
[15:18] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[15:19] That's what people, that's what the UFC is lacking a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[15:22] Ilya says some crazy shit about Islam, though, too. Like saying you're going to bring them in front of Khabib and submit them is like, that's what makes Ilya such an entertaining persona, I think.

Speaker 3:
[15:34] That's cool.

Speaker 1:
[15:34] He says shit that no one else is saying.

Speaker 3:
[15:36] That's cool, but I kind of like that you're a fucking retard type shit talk as well. I think that makes it funnier.

Speaker 1:
[15:43] He said, Patty the baddie would have to die and be born again to have a chance of being champion, which is like, Ilya just says some cold shit.

Speaker 4:
[15:54] Yeah, he does. Strickland Homsot is going to be a lot of shit talking, dude. That's in two weeks, I think.

Speaker 1:
[15:59] We got to get Strickland. I'm going to try to get Strickland on next week for us.

Speaker 2:
[16:03] What do you think happens to Tupori if he gets one really bad loss?

Speaker 1:
[16:09] It's all in the way you lose too. Are you saying if he gets knocked out?

Speaker 2:
[16:12] Yeah, because he's not huge. He's huge, but it's because of his talent. I wonder if it's one of those... He reminds me of Izzy. It's unstoppable, but then also massive fan base. And then once he goes on the losing streak, it really fucking hurts him. And I don't think it's going to happen to him. He's so fucking talented. But let's just say something insane happens. Like H, he knocks him out. And then he goes against Armand and he loses. Does he have a massive fall off? Because it was all leveraged on his talent and unbeatable?

Speaker 4:
[16:55] That would cause a massive fall off. People would just say, oh, all the personal issues took their toll, and Ilya was never the same. I think in MMA fans, we all have a very short memory. Like you were saying with Izzy, bro, Izzy ran through the division. They literally brought in Alex Behera because Izzy at one point, he was like, who do we give this guy next? There's no, let's bring in somebody from an obscure striking organization that beat him in the past.

Speaker 2:
[17:23] There was a time, try to find someone that hated Izzy. Like remember when he was on top? Like I didn't know what, he was everyone's favorite fighter that I would talk to too. And it's like, it happened. You know what it is? Like he shifts so fucking shit shifts so quick. And then all of a sudden the person that everyone loves and is like on top becomes like, besides like, I don't think anyone's, I mean, obvious, such an obvious statement, but like Connor McGregor is like, no one's had the full package that like with the plot, the fucking just like made him like such a, because like I look at like to pour in, I'm like, like how much of Connor McGregor is like him in those like conferences and what he would say and fucking all that shit like if anything like Strickland's been the closest I've seen to like kind of having both, but his shit talking is really good. I think he is going to do numbers.

Speaker 4:
[18:20] If Ilya knocks out Gagee, if Ilya knocks out Gagee in a huge way and then he starts, you know, doing what he's doing talking mad shit about Armin, that fight gets made. It's one of the biggest fights ever. And then let's say Ilya beats Armin. I think we do see one of the biggest stars ever in sports history. And you're right that it won't be McGregor-esque where McGregor...

Speaker 2:
[18:45] It's entertaining to the casuals. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[18:48] It will be, but he'll have to do more in the cage than McGregor because Ilya does have more of that respect, obviously not kind of towards Armin, but like he's not going to just... Conor McGregor would just talk shit about everybody in front of him, like he doesn't give a fuck. But Ilya could potentially do more in the cage and have a bit more of that skill. So we'll see. But those two wins right there?

Speaker 1:
[19:11] I think Ilya is going to be... He has the potential to be, yeah, the next Conor McGregor for sure. But yeah, I mean, it's all about your fights. If he beats Gachey and then he beats Armand, I think they line up the Islam fight after that. And then if he wins that, that's like, that's goat talk, bro.

Speaker 4:
[19:29] Yep, goat talk for sure.

Speaker 1:
[19:30] Goat, goat, goat, like better than John Jones talk potentially.

Speaker 4:
[19:34] Or there could be like a war. Ilya and Armand could have a war and then they could run it back. You know, you could even see those build up fighters a lot sometimes. Those little trilogies and like the peak of their career. I mean, there was like, yeah, that could really build.

Speaker 1:
[19:46] Ilya moved to Miami.

Speaker 4:
[19:47] He's doing his training camp out there.

Speaker 1:
[19:49] He said he's living here now for the next like three years. Might have to run back a stream, Stani.

Speaker 3:
[19:53] Let's do it.

Speaker 2:
[19:54] Doesn't he own like a fucking mansion in like Spain or some shit?

Speaker 1:
[19:58] He did, yeah. When we went there, he had a fat crib.

Speaker 3:
[20:01] What's that gay thing you guys say the not proud of it?

Speaker 4:
[20:05] Not proud of it, man, I have to say it. That's Big John Galtz.

Speaker 3:
[20:07] Oh, that gay ass shit. Yeah, so I watched the Iceman stream or that kid, the Toronto kid. Did you guys turn it on?

Speaker 1:
[20:13] Why are you hating on Big John, just because he caught the Drake follow before you?

Speaker 3:
[20:17] No, I'm not hating on Big John, he's a hustler, but I don't. I've seen Santa Cruz do that.

Speaker 4:
[20:22] Dude, I did it with Big John. I'm not proud of it, man, I have to say it.

Speaker 3:
[20:25] I'll just say it. I was watching the updates on X, they were really keeping up the updates with the Iceman Drake statue and I guess the release date for his album. It was pretty cool marketing, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 4:
[20:38] Very cool marketing.

Speaker 1:
[20:39] The guy never fucking misses, bro. That guy, he's a fucking marketing genius, bro. Like that guy never fucking fails.

Speaker 2:
[20:48] The ice melts and then he finds the date.

Speaker 3:
[20:50] Yeah. So as an artist myself and as him being an artist, I'm a little pissed that he doesn't see the art that I put in. Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2:
[20:56] Back up. What did you say?

Speaker 4:
[20:58] What art?

Speaker 2:
[20:59] What?

Speaker 3:
[20:59] Just like the creation. Like he's very smart and you don't, but the other thing you don't see any of these other...

Speaker 2:
[21:04] He said as an artist myself.

Speaker 3:
[21:05] Yeah. Well, I come up with some pretty creative things I'd like to think and he doesn't seem to see that.

Speaker 1:
[21:10] Like what? Putting a fucking dick, mechanical dick in your backyard?

Speaker 3:
[21:15] Yeah, was that hard? Can I get to the point? You don't see any other rappers or artists put in much effort at all into their album releases. And this was like a two year thing of stuff that he's put in. But this entire, whatever you want to call this structure in Toronto, he has it, he, you know, live streamers are going to pull up, so he makes a lot of noise. And then the kid finds the little bag that has the date. He pulls up to Drake's house and he opens up this pamphlet that gives you the release date. Like it was just a really smart way to roll out the release date announcement. And so that I was really, like I tuned into the stream, like, cause I was so curious. It really had you thinking. I would never care to do that.

Speaker 1:
[22:06] He knows, too, that the way people are winning now is by user-generated content, too, right? So building that ice sculpture in Toronto, it's so smart.

Speaker 2:
[22:15] Oh, so everyone comes and films a skit or does...

Speaker 1:
[22:17] People are, yeah, people are marketing the album for him, right? Like, what did he do? He did one story post. I mean, he feed posted it himself, too, but all the majority of the clips that went viral were from other people.

Speaker 3:
[22:31] Yeah, well, I have to tell you this. This is something I've never seen in my life.

Speaker 2:
[22:35] There's like massive influencers that were flying there. I follow a few that like shot skits at the ice thing. They got like 300,000 likes and shit like it.

Speaker 1:
[22:43] You couldn't do that in the past, too, because if you didn't have a following in the past, you weren't getting views, right?

Speaker 3:
[22:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:49] But now that the algorithm is just anyone can go viral, you know, basing a marketing strategy on that is...

Speaker 2:
[22:55] That's...

Speaker 1:
[22:56] I thought it was genius, bro. I was like, fuck.

Speaker 3:
[22:58] I didn't really do shit yesterday. So I look into this and he was wearing like a Packers jersey. Dude, people with Drake, I don't know what it is, but like, I love DJ Academics. DJ Academics is sitting there at his computer because Drake was wearing a Packers fucking jacket and he's deep diving. Okay, there was a Packers ice bowl in 1967. That's what he has to be referring to. He's Packers jacket, there's ice blocks. The release date is December 31st. That was the ice bowl of the Packers. And it's just like, dude, what the fuck are you making about, bro?

Speaker 4:
[23:31] Like, it's not that deep.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] I saw a headline, it was shot at Caleb Williams because he calls himself the Iceman or something. I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 3:
[23:40] Yeah, he copyrighted Iceman for his clothing line. It's really funny how deep dive people go into this shit.

Speaker 1:
[23:46] I don't know if that's true or not, but I wouldn't put that past Drake because that's what he does, he's done his whole career, is like little subtle shots like that.

Speaker 3:
[23:53] Yeah, I was thinking about it if I flew there and just fucking went in and grabbed that bag and how pissed off everyone would be if I found the bag and delivered it to his house in Toronto.

Speaker 2:
[24:04] Isn't it crazy how tapped in Drake is? Like with like culture in my opinion, like just everything.

Speaker 3:
[24:11] I think that's how you stay at the top for 30 years.

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Speaker 2:
[25:44] That's so important.

Speaker 4:
[25:45] Yeah, a hundred percent, dude, because they don't think they're like above anybody. They're like, oh, like, yeah, that's like a big thing. Like, if you think you're too good to fucking scroll on social media and see what's popping off, then like, then you kind of lose the plot.

Speaker 1:
[25:57] So yeah, I remember Drake commented on one of my things once, like Kyle started OVO from Ryerson, like the university that I went to. And I was like, what the fuck? Like I even forgot I fucking went there. Like it's, I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[26:11] Stiney, has he ever commented on your stuff?

Speaker 3:
[26:13] I don't think he's commented.

Speaker 1:
[26:14] I saw Stiney drop the comment on Owl on the post, Owl4L.

Speaker 4:
[26:20] I did.

Speaker 1:
[26:22] Cause that's the thing about Stiney, is he'll like shit on someone.

Speaker 3:
[26:26] I don't shit on him.

Speaker 1:
[26:26] Stiney will like shit on someone and be like, no, not him, but behind the scenes, I mean behind the scenes, you'll shit on people and be like, fuck that person. Like, yo, he doesn't follow me and shit. And then you'll see Stiney like really trying to kiss their ass like.

Speaker 3:
[26:39] That's part of the joke. No, I've never said a bad thing about Trusky, but.

Speaker 1:
[26:43] Yeah, no, it's a good tactic. How do you think the album's gonna be? I think it's gonna be one of his best albums in the last few.

Speaker 3:
[26:51] Who would have thought you would have said that?

Speaker 1:
[26:53] Yeah, I don't know, I just think it's gonna be fire. For All the Dogs wasn't my favorite Drake album.

Speaker 3:
[26:59] Yeah, I wonder how hard he goes at all of his ops on this one.

Speaker 1:
[27:02] Or is it dead or not? Cause I guess there's like, he's been referencing like a Pinocchio thing in all of his live streams, and people are saying that's supposed to be Kendrick Lamar, and there's like a Pinocchio in the crosshairs in the book. But I think it's gonna be fire.

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Is that a reference to like, lying or something? Or?

Speaker 1:
[27:19] Lying, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[27:20] Ding, ding, ding.

Speaker 1:
[27:21] I'm gonna be up there in Toronto next week, so.

Speaker 3:
[27:23] Oh, you are? You're a little late to the game, bro. You're gonna go to the, it's gonna be melted, dude. I know.

Speaker 4:
[27:30] Yeah, you should put one fucking ice cube on the ground.

Speaker 3:
[27:31] Yeah, you should, get one ice block.

Speaker 4:
[27:32] Let's get there.

Speaker 1:
[27:33] I'll bring you home a piece of ice, thank you.

Speaker 3:
[27:35] Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1:
[27:36] You can put it in your freezer.

Speaker 3:
[27:38] That actually is what people should have done. You could have taken an ice block.

Speaker 2:
[27:40] You should put a glass of water in like a glass case, be like, yeah, this is from an ice brick that. You could probably sell those. Sell water bottles from the ice.

Speaker 1:
[27:50] I don't know, maybe the reason Freezer's not here too is because he did hit up, I mean, we all saw in the chat, or was that in a different chat? I think it was in our golf chat. But we have a chat for Full Send Golf. I guess Freezer is, he's an ex DMing assassin.

Speaker 4:
[28:07] Oh, no, that was in the chat. I saw that shit, bro.

Speaker 1:
[28:11] I don't know, what's your guys take on that? And also, Freezer slid in one of my ex's DMs.

Speaker 2:
[28:16] Oh, bro.

Speaker 3:
[28:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:18] So he said he didn't know the Salim one, though. Did he know yours?

Speaker 1:
[28:22] He said the same thing, but I don't know. The defense can only hold up so much, right?

Speaker 3:
[28:27] Yeah, I got love for Freezer, but that's a that's a you're dead to me type shit. You don't go. You don't go after your boy's ex. I think that's fucking bullshit.

Speaker 4:
[28:36] I wonder if he slides in with one of his like videos, you know what I mean? Like backwards, check on your exes.

Speaker 3:
[28:41] My friend cuts off their girl and they're cut off in my life as well.

Speaker 1:
[28:45] Freezer's excuse is that he was running an only fans agency, which I kind of believe. I mean, if he actually did it, that's definitely not cool.

Speaker 2:
[28:54] That's a good cop out too, if it's a lie. It's just an agency, man. It's just a business.

Speaker 1:
[28:59] The DM to my ex was, Hey, Rocket, with a rocket emoji.

Speaker 3:
[29:04] Honestly, well, that's not going to get anywhere. So you're probably pretty safe.

Speaker 2:
[29:07] I know.

Speaker 1:
[29:08] Honestly, if Freezer hooked up with my ex, I'd be like, all right, like it might help you just get over the person, you know? Yeah, I'd be like, all right, I think I'm good.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] I want to talk about this fucking Joe Rogan shit to Trump and everyone hating on him for that. I think it's fucking wack.

Speaker 1:
[29:22] What, that he met with Trump?

Speaker 2:
[29:24] The whole like what he went to go get approved and how it's just overall like a fucking positive and he knew he would get hate for it and he still just did it to help people and people like hate on him.

Speaker 3:
[29:35] I'm like, he didn't benefit from that?

Speaker 2:
[29:38] I thought it was fucking, I saw, I don't know, man. We're in such a weird time where like, we've talked about this before, but like fucking, dude, everyone just hates everything. It's so fucking annoying.

Speaker 3:
[29:48] He went to the Oval Office Trump cast something about opioid addiction.

Speaker 4:
[29:52] Ibogaine, ibogaine is like this psychedelic treatment that has insane use for opioid addicts. There's like a lot of data on it, and people have been curing opioid addiction at ibogaine centers in Mexico and in South America because it's illegal here. And so they want to legalize it here. And yeah, Rogan obviously went to support that, but it just, dude, people have this like derangement syndrome. You know, it's even worse. People want America to do bad when Trump is running it. That's what I really disagree with, bro. I disagree with a lot of stuff that Trump does, but I'm like, I want our country to do well. So it doesn't matter if I disagree with some stuff he does. I want good things to happen. And when you see something like that, or even like little shit like Red 40, RFK wants to attack Red 40 and get it out. And people will be like, but RFK did this and this and that. It's like, okay, can we celebrate a little fucking win here?

Speaker 2:
[30:48] It's about who's getting the win more than about getting the win.

Speaker 4:
[30:52] Exactly, they don't want.

Speaker 2:
[30:53] So Joe Rogan wants to do this. And no one's talking about the fact that he had to stop for a second with his team and be like, oh, I'm gonna get ripped apart for working with Trump or fucking all this stuff. And how many other people that are like, maybe have a connection to Trump, have this, could make a difference, and then go, oh, but it's a bad look for my brand, I'm not gonna do this. I think it's actually like shows courage that-

Speaker 4:
[31:18] Rogan criticizes Trump.

Speaker 2:
[31:20] Like he fucking did it.

Speaker 1:
[31:21] And he's criticizing Trump a lot on his pod too.

Speaker 3:
[31:23] Yeah, so it's like- Rogan said that Trump was chirping him when he was in there. He said, Joe's a huge liberal now.

Speaker 2:
[31:28] He called him a liberal and shit. Like it's like, it doesn't, but even like us talking about this, then it's like, oh, like are they, people's mind are like, oh, are they Trump or are they this or they? It's like, no, I'm just pro of something good happening for the fucking country, dude. Like 90%, 90%, dude, you know how many fucking lives that's going to change? Like, shut the fuck up. Like it's so annoying.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] I've realized politics is just, it's a no win. Yeah. I think it's just, it's tough, man. It's kind of like no matter who's in charge. I think that it doesn't really matter in a sense. I think we're just controlled. We're controlled by the elite and whoever wins is going to be, I don't think it's possible to really change things.

Speaker 3:
[32:12] I also just want to really quick Santa Cruz, just want to say too, just from the journey of politics we've been through, everyone, anybody that asks me, dude, every fucking politician is the exact same. Like, I'm sorry, they're just the same.

Speaker 1:
[32:24] You know what's really interesting actually? Let's just talk about it, conspiracy.

Speaker 3:
[32:27] I just want to say really quick Kyle, that I want, Elan Omar, like she's the congresswoman in Minnesota, just getting exposed, like fucking fully exposed for fraud. And this is like the same people that are trying to tell like the American people, we're looking out for you. You know, we want to look out for the minorities and everyone in equality and at the same time, she's fucking scamming everybody. And you know, people always criticize Trump and stuff for doing certain things. But he at least like wears shit on his sleeve and you have all these other people that are doing the exact same shit. I'm sure Gavin Newsom has some stuff that he's hiding that's going to come out. So it's like, everyone's just the same. That's why I don't even care to argue about this shit anymore. So go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[33:11] I agree.

Speaker 3:
[33:12] And I text Nick Shirley a lot and people give him shit because they're like, oh, he's a fucking autistic, whatever they want to give. They always like want to hate on this guy. And he pulls up to Elon Omar's office, pulls up to her fucking office, camera rolling, confronting her assistant. Hey, is she here? Because I want to ask her about this whole fraud situation, how her assets go from 30 million to 95,000 overnight from an accounting error. That doesn't really make sense. And it's just crazy. People want to give this kid shit, and he's out there doing stuff that's actually benefiting and exposing a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2:
[33:46] Yeah, and the direction is just to fucking attack him.

Speaker 3:
[33:49] And then, yeah, it's like, why hate on this kid? And so why not just learn and see what he's about, see what he's doing? But people just, I don't know, man. It's really the most toxic space ever, and people really just stand so firm. Like I've seen even like the Alex Earl and Alex Cooper shit. All of a sudden, it's like everyone's hating on Alex Earl because she was mad guy or some shit. And now she's taking a huge L. Like this space is fucking toxic as hell. Tucker Carlson saying he doesn't, he wishes he didn't vote for Trump.

Speaker 2:
[34:19] Like, I didn't see this.

Speaker 4:
[34:21] I mean, that's his right as an American to like, you know, that's the beautiful thing about this country. You can like disagree with people, and we should be able to disagree with people more and still get along.

Speaker 3:
[34:30] That's really the issue.

Speaker 4:
[34:31] People are viewing it black and white, like you're saying. Bro, people, whenever it's like, I clip farm with you, Stiney, because when I post you and I talking, people fucking go crazy at Stiney. They hate him, this, that. And I'm like over here like, you know, you and I probably disagree on a lot of things, but like, you're my friend, like I care about you. Like, this is the way America should be. And that's the big issue in this country right now. Like, you need to be able to disagree with somebody and still get along.

Speaker 3:
[34:57] And here's one thing I want to say, Santa Cruz and the people that do come at me for that shit is you could say whatever you want. I'm actually saying real shit and half the people that you guys agree with don't believe in anything they're saying. They're just sheep and want you to fuck and still love them. So you can, I don't even give a fuck. You hate on me as much as you want, but I'm going to tell you how it is while these other people, these comedians out there that want to build their fan bases that supported a different candidate, whatever, probably took money and they've switched sides because they want you to be their audience. They're the fakest motherfuckers out there. So that's what I'm going to say about that.

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Speaker 2:
[36:52] I have no solution, but the fact that anyone that is covering news like that just lets the people know what's going on, being able to monetize that so that then you're leveraged to be like, I'm going to do whatever creates views and because that's when we make more money or having other people like say they sponsor your commercials or pharmaceutical or like being able to control your ad revenue. Like both of those pillars are why like how you get propaganda and how you get all that shit. Like I don't know what the solution is. Like maybe it's all going to be like government funded, but then that's a problem because then who's funding the government, but like those are the two things that cause problems even at a smaller scale when you're like, like you just said, you're a YouTuber, you're this, like you do certain things and maybe you're like, morally don't want to, but it gets views and then you, you're running a business, you're doing what you gotta do.

Speaker 1:
[37:44] Like, you know, what's the new thing now is that, and I find it interesting too, is like, what really happened with Trump's attempted assassination and Butler, right? I mean, people are saying kind of, and it's true, like, you know, Trump, he never forgets, right? Like he's still talking about the election. He's still blaming Biden for everything. Like, you know, Trump is Trump, right? But the one thing he never ever brings up is the assassination. Like, he never says like, yo, they tried to kill me. Like, it's just kind of something that he just kind of brushed under the rug.

Speaker 4:
[38:19] For sure. It is weird.

Speaker 1:
[38:21] Could that have been like a warn, like, could that have been a warning to Trump? Like, you know, maybe there was meetings going on behind the scenes that are like, yo, it's nice you're saying this, like Santa Cruz said, but, you know, that's not really going to happen. And like, maybe that was like a warning shot to Trump where it's like, yo, we can kill you, motherfucker. Like, don't think the Secret Service is going to protect you. I just think no president is like, anybody can get killed. And I think that, I don't know, it's just interesting.

Speaker 4:
[38:49] It is.

Speaker 1:
[38:49] Cause you don't hear Trump talk about that.

Speaker 3:
[38:50] Well, you also never hear about the guy that, the guy that got shot behind him that died, right?

Speaker 4:
[38:55] You just don't hear a lot about it. Yeah, it is strange.

Speaker 1:
[38:57] Like you would think Trump would be saying that every speech, right? Like I almost took a bullet or I did take a bullet.

Speaker 2:
[39:03] What do you think about the conspiracy of that being like rigged to like help him with the election? Like the whole thing being like the flag dropping and the perfect photo that switched a lot of people.

Speaker 1:
[39:16] I don't rule anything out in this world. I think there's conspiracies, but then I also think people take conspiracies too far. It's a case by case situation.

Speaker 4:
[39:27] I used to be way more conspiracy theory. I do obviously believe in a lot of conspiracy theories. A lot of them are true, but there is this kind of new movement where people believe every single thing is a conspiracy. It's just like, dude, crazy shit can happen. It's kind of the same thing if people think all sports are rigged, but anybody who's actually played sports knows that, dude, when you just get two teams that are even, for example, sometimes you get these fucking insane matches, and then people like the Super Bowl or whatever, a playoff game will end that was like last second and people will be like, that shit was rigged for viewers. It's like, bro, no, crazy shit can just happen. Some dude can fucking scale a building and shoot at Trump, whether he was like CIA trained or Mossad trained. Sure, I'm into those conspiracies. Let's hear it out. But like to say, there's this thing of everything is fake out there. And I think it's usually somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 1:
[40:17] I also think that people are naive to think that the US government is the only evil government in the world. Yeah, it's almost like, yeah, a lot of these other influencers or comedians will be like, yeah, the Iranian government is so good. And it's like, how do you not know that there's I feel like every guy, like if Iran could trade places with the United States right now, it would, you know, I feel like every government's evil in the US is just the smartest to play the game.

Speaker 4:
[40:42] Yeah, for sure. I agree. There's like, there's certain ones, there's certain governments that like are clearly like, whatever like Pacifist, I mean, you got like Costa Rica and shit obviously.

Speaker 1:
[40:51] But they have no fucking chance anyway. They're not gonna play the game because they have no chance.

Speaker 4:
[40:55] And like, yeah, Israel appears pretty evil in many regards, but like if you're on the other side, if you're a Ukrainian soldier, Russia is the most evil thing in the world in that moment and vice versa. So yeah, it's crazy, bro. I want less war. I want more money being spent in the United States, bro. In Phoenix, bro, when we were driving out to Sugar Sean's gym, the amount of fentanyl addicts slumped over in the streets.

Speaker 2:
[41:16] Oh my God, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[41:17] Bro, I hate this fucking, I hate this shit.

Speaker 3:
[41:20] It's not gonna happen, Santa Cruz.

Speaker 4:
[41:21] That is compassionate.

Speaker 3:
[41:22] That's what I learned. They don't wanna clean that up because then there's nowhere to blame. Oh, we need money for this. Where's the unaccounted funds gonna go to? I've always like thought about that. Go to downtown LA.

Speaker 4:
[41:33] I'm gonna go to San Francisco in the next month.

Speaker 3:
[41:35] It should be beautiful.

Speaker 4:
[41:36] I'm gonna go expose these fake drug rehabs, bro, because I tried to get a dude, I had a video go viral with a dude in SF who was a fentanyl addict and you know, was back on TikTok page, and he gave me like three or four bands for the video. So I'm like, I'm gonna get this dude this money. So I meet, I find him back in the Tenderloin SF, and I'm like, hey man, if you get clean, I'll give you four racks right off the jump, and then we'll do a little GoFundMe. You'll probably be able to start fresh, like 10 racks. And I take him to different drug rehabs, and I realize it's a scam. Stiney, you bring this dude in there, they go, oh yeah, so he needs an ID, put down his phone number, his social security. I go, hey, all due respect, this dude doesn't have, what are you talking about? And they go, yeah, that's how we run our rehab. And I'm like, wait, so walk around the Tenderloin SF, again, respect to these people, but they don't, some of them, I'm not even joking bro, they don't know their own names. Yeah, like they forget.

Speaker 3:
[42:28] I watched something yesterday, I think it was Joe Rogan was talking about charities are the biggest scam and how he broke down that less than like 10% of the money donated is even going to the kids for like the cancer research or whatever the charity is. And it's just like the charity's fucking stealing money too, it's just like.

Speaker 4:
[42:47] The people that run those drug rehab centers, they make all the money. You'll find out, oh, this lady works there, she makes 300K a year, and there's fucking six people that go in there a month. It should be 50 bags filled, but they're like, whatever, why would they want to do more work?

Speaker 2:
[43:00] I think it's because some people get into this shit because they're actually bad people and they find a loophole to make money, but then there's also some people that obviously are like, I want to make change and do this whole thing, right? But then you're in it for five years, and then you get married, and then you get this, you have problems come up, and then everyone falls into the same thing where you start going, oh, like it'd be nice to not worry about fucking my rent or my paying off this mortgage, or like I want to pool, and I want to, and like people start, like their morals start stretching, and then they start fucking the system up, which is also like, I actually like understand it from their point of view too, of like, everyone is just trying to fucking make their life better, move up, but like, and then maybe they're like, I am doing something good anyways, so they balance it out, but like, I think it's a mixture of that, like how do you get all these things to just run on good faith? It's like, probably impossible. Like, the only thing right now, we're living in a time where everything can be like, exposed, everything can be transparent, and it's like, maybe that's where good is gonna come out of, like, it's like.

Speaker 1:
[44:07] You can never have total good in a human race, though. The human race is fucked, I think. I think as long as there's money, there's gonna be corruption, there's gonna be evil. It's gonna have to go to complete zero before it comes, right? Like, it can never just magically fix itself through politics.

Speaker 3:
[44:24] Should be simpler life, dude. We gotta go Santa Cruz, go join the Amish.

Speaker 4:
[44:29] Yeah, they got good dairy products out there. Well, dude, I mean, you know, our tax dollars, speaking of our tax dollars get spent raiding their farms because they have raw dairy and shit. Bro, I did a post, like, can we stop spending our tax dollars busting Amish farms? Like, let's focus, you know, let's focus on the Fentanyl problem in the United States. And then maybe once we get that cleaned up, OK, if you want to go bust an Amish farm for selling raw milk, like, I just don't, it's frustrating how our tax dollars are spent. Like, come on.

Speaker 2:
[44:55] Because who do you think is pushing that narrative and paying for that? You know what I mean? Like, to, yeah, I don't know. Whatever.

Speaker 4:
[45:01] It's another topic.

Speaker 3:
[45:03] Oh, we could talk about Euphoria. Just the Sidney Sweeney, like, doing like the Oldie fans, like, spread eagle scene.

Speaker 1:
[45:10] That shit just is like, dude, yeah, it's that area because I'll tune in for that.

Speaker 3:
[45:14] I don't even know. See, I don't even care if it's Sidney Sweeney. I have zero interest in tuning into that. It's like so degenerate.

Speaker 1:
[45:19] So Sidney Sweeney is completely naked in the last episode.

Speaker 3:
[45:23] I don't know about completely naked. I just saw pictures of her, like, spreading her legs and like wearing like a dog collar and shit. And I'm just like, yo, this is not even like I watched the episode.

Speaker 4:
[45:31] What made me super uncomfortable was the baby. She at one point is dressed up like a baby with a pacifier and a diaper. I thought that shit was absurd. I think there's no reason to do that. And you know what, man, it's fine if the director is like kind of like creepy and he wants to have like Sydney Sweeney in like outfits and get her tits out. Whatever, dude, like that's always been a thing in the United States, like a blonde girl with tits, Pamela Anderson. Now it's Sydney Sweeney where I really didn't like it. My wife for watching it and we're like, this is so fucking weird right now was this baby scene. And it even goes deeper in it where it's not just showing it, but like the girl, like ask her, like, wait, what are you doing? She's like, oh, like, it's like a huge niche or something. I'm like, what, why? No, it's not a huge niche.

Speaker 2:
[46:15] That shit is disgusting. What's the niche, pedophile?

Speaker 3:
[46:18] Yeah, that's pedophilia. There is a niche for that. Literally, bro. And I remember.

Speaker 4:
[46:22] There's no reason to put that in.

Speaker 3:
[46:23] I remember I talked to like this, like a little person and she was making 20 million a year. And I was like, why? Like, I didn't get it. And she was like, well, guys, ask me to wear like a baseball cap and have a baseball mat. They want me to look like a little boy. And I was like, what the fuck is this shit? Like, this is just terrible.

Speaker 4:
[46:43] And there's no reason to put that in. You want to show Sydney Sweeney's tits, put her in a lifeguard outfit or whatever.

Speaker 3:
[46:48] No, I just think it's trash. There's zero fucking creative. Like, honestly, you're two years late to this OnlyFans trend. That like two years ago, yeah, maybe people would have been like, oh, like, you know, like it's just fucking.

Speaker 1:
[47:01] That's the problem with these series is though, too, is they probably have to now that I'm learning about it, they probably wrote that script fucking. Yeah, well, you're at least a year or two ago.

Speaker 3:
[47:10] Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[47:11] Oh, dude, I mean, the first the first episode of Euphoria was horrible.

Speaker 2:
[47:15] Yeah, like, are they doing it to expose that like that is a niche on OnlyFans and how fucked up it is? Or is it more like we're trying to normalize this?

Speaker 1:
[47:22] Whatever it is, it's not fucking working. And listen, Euphoria, Euphoria at the end of the day was a chick show. The first two seasons, it was known as a chick show. But as a guy, I was down to defend it. And I would argue with people and be like, yo, the directing is actually fantastic. The writing is great. But now it's just fucking garbage. Whatever the fuck they did, it's just bad. And Sydney Sweeney is whatever. She's hot, but it's just not cutting it.

Speaker 3:
[47:47] I lost attraction. I don't even, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[47:50] Fucking Scooter Braun's hitting that, eh?

Speaker 3:
[47:53] Oh yeah, that's true. What the fuck?

Speaker 2:
[47:56] Tobacco's out.

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Speaker 4:
[49:19] So what, they're raising the age? Is that what's going on?

Speaker 2:
[49:21] No, they're saying never.

Speaker 4:
[49:24] Oh, never?

Speaker 1:
[49:25] Good.

Speaker 4:
[49:25] Let's fucking go, dude. I think tobacco products are horrible. I mean-

Speaker 2:
[49:29] I might disagree with you.

Speaker 4:
[49:33] Well, so it is, I do have like this kind of split mentality of like, I believe in freedom. You know what I mean? So like freedom of choice. So I guess like, honestly, I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily support like people like you. We should ban soda. I'm like, no, we shouldn't. I think we should have freedom in the United States. But I don't know, man. Yeah. Cigarettes are absolutely fucking horrible. When somebody legit smokes a cigarette, I just think it's a form of self-sabotage, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[50:00] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[50:01] But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[50:02] I would rather have some weird ass shit's going on in the UK. Right.

Speaker 2:
[50:05] I feel like I just heard of this last like couple years, even just friends I've made from over there. I didn't even know UK was so like crazy like that.

Speaker 1:
[50:13] Dude, it's dangerous. Like when you go there, everyone's like, don't wear your watch out and shit. Like we went there last summer and it's like London sucks, bro. The people are cool, but there's a lot of just weird shit that I see going on there.

Speaker 4:
[50:26] Yeah. If you don't enforce fucking law, then people are going to act lawless, bro. And this is what happened in the fucking Bay Area, bro. It was the same shit Kyle. Like you, you're told like, bro, if you're in Oakland or San Francisco, like a car might pull up, dudes might get out with guns and ski mask and they're going to take everything you fucking have.

Speaker 2:
[50:43] Yeah, let's make it illegal to have a cigarette. How's that make sense? Like, you know what I mean? I hear you, but like freedom and safety. Like it's, it's like, it's kind of like we said earlier, like worry about this first, like before you're fucking attacking the Amish for raw milk. Like there's people dying of fucking overdose every three seconds.

Speaker 3:
[51:01] That's insane by the way, if that's true. Like let the Amish have their fucking sell their raw milk, dude.

Speaker 4:
[51:06] Raw milk is one of the most like controversial things in the health world ever, because like you can get sick from raw milk. It's dumb to say that it's like a very, very safe food.

Speaker 3:
[51:17] They saw it on the low.

Speaker 2:
[51:18] Yeah, but you can get sick from alcohol. Like, I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[51:21] Oh, bro, people die from sushi every year. And it's like, I think I created like a fucking solution to the raw milk debate. Let's put a little sticker on it that says this food can cause foodborne illness. Done. I guess if a state wants to make you be 18 to buy it, like those fucking kombuchas that have alcohol, I guess you could do that. But like, let's move on from there. Let's not spend, Stiney, like our tax dollars are getting spent like fucking going and enforcing stupid.

Speaker 3:
[51:44] That's my biggest question I always ask is how come when Cali has a state income tax, Florida doesn't, Cali has this homeless problem in every major city that seems to be unsolvable. Like I just never wrap my head around that.

Speaker 4:
[51:58] Bro, because they view it as the nice thing to do.

Speaker 3:
[52:00] How is this homeless problem this serious? You go to fucking Florida, even Miami, you don't even really see, I haven't seen one fentanyl lean in Miami. I see it in San Diego, San Francisco, LA, every time I go there.

Speaker 1:
[52:10] Bro, when I came to LA this week, I was walking around, I was kind of scared to be in LA, bro. I saw some people wearing ski masks and shit. Like, yeah, I was like, yo, what the fuck?

Speaker 4:
[52:20] Yeah, that's the size of a fucking hockey puck. That thing probably has 150 grams of corn syrup.

Speaker 2:
[52:25] I love Reese's species, but that looks kind of gross.

Speaker 4:
[52:27] Over a thousand calories. Yeah, that does look fucking disgusting.

Speaker 2:
[52:30] Because you know that chocolate's bullshit, too.

Speaker 4:
[52:32] Bro, and then people eat three of these. They drink five energy drinks. They fucking do ten zins. They rip a geek bar. And then they're literally astonished when they have some debilitating disease. Like, this is this is the United States of America.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] That looks like shit.

Speaker 4:
[52:46] Yeah, it looks like shit.

Speaker 1:
[52:48] Don't try to recreate the Reese's peanut butter cup.

Speaker 3:
[52:50] Perfect.

Speaker 1:
[52:51] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[52:51] Also, don't be a guy in your fucking 20s that freaks out when you lose your vape. Like straight up. Sorry. Just like you're a fucking loser, bro. If you're fucking 24, that come from because he said vaping. And I'm just like, sorry, Jimmy Gambles, I love you. But when that guy loses his vape, it's like a fucking search party, search warrant all over the house. It's like, dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 2:
[53:14] I don't know. I'm in my 30s. If I if I lose my 10, I'm fucking freaking out.

Speaker 3:
[53:18] That's a little different. But like a 20 fucking five year old looking for a guy looking for a vape, like, dude, you're fucking pussy.

Speaker 2:
[53:25] So I think it's because it's a vape or something about like, you got to charge it and shit.

Speaker 1:
[53:29] It's like, dude, it's really gay.

Speaker 3:
[53:31] Yeah, that's just beta.

Speaker 2:
[53:33] Do you think like 20 year olds are fucking? I don't think it's probably cool to smoke a vape.

Speaker 3:
[53:37] Yeah, I think if you're like 15, when I think of vaping, I think like 15 year olds in the hallway is trying to get away with it. That shit's for kids trying to like fucking be deviant.

Speaker 2:
[53:46] I remember when the jewel was cool. We'd go to clubs and get them to cigarettes or chew. it, everyone would have a jewel in their hand.

Speaker 4:
[53:53] Well, yeah, the problem is we made them fucking candy flavored. I mean, Kyle, what you just said, there is some fucking kind of truth to it. It's like if all that was available is fucking like long cut and fucking like American spirits, bro, no fucking soft ass 17 year old would pick that shit up and just inhale a fucking actual hit of tobacco. They'll realize how harsh it is, bro. And now we've flavored it and dumbed it down, yet giving people the same effects. It can taste like bubblegum.

Speaker 2:
[54:18] I agree.

Speaker 4:
[54:18] So it's soft.

Speaker 2:
[54:19] I basically got soil on my lip right now. Like no fucking kid's gonna be like, that sounds fun to do every day. I have to carry around a cup. I do think that is kind of the issue, even though like I have to like fly to Montana to buy my flavored chew. But yeah, making it like fucking popcorn, caramel and shit, kind of an issue.

Speaker 1:
[54:42] So going back to the Sydney Sweeney thing, if your girl was an actress and she had to do a sex scene, would you be chill with it or no?

Speaker 3:
[54:52] Yeah, I'd probably just have to have a chair on set and then...

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Why, so you'll whack off?

Speaker 4:
[54:59] Chair in the corner?

Speaker 3:
[55:00] I don't know how I'd handle that. Like a sex scene?

Speaker 2:
[55:03] If your girlfriend is actually clear that she's an artist.

Speaker 3:
[55:07] Nah, that's a square up right after.

Speaker 1:
[55:09] She's an actress.

Speaker 2:
[55:10] Yeah, that's her job. I don't give a.

Speaker 1:
[55:12] Like Steini, you're always out in LA. You're going up to these actresses and singers and shit. You say they know you every time you tell them your story. When you meet one of them, let's say you finally bag one of them, and she has to do a sex scene, would you be cool with it?

Speaker 3:
[55:26] Yeah, as a professional, yes.

Speaker 1:
[55:28] I guess you have no choice, right?

Speaker 3:
[55:29] Is she going to be okay with me getting my get back behind the scenes and not knowing about it? Probably not. But it's going to go down like that. So I'd be okay with it, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:37] So she does a sex scene and then you go cheat?

Speaker 3:
[55:40] Yeah, that's probably how it's going to be.

Speaker 2:
[55:42] I don't back that.

Speaker 3:
[55:44] That's just how it's going to go.

Speaker 2:
[55:45] One person's cheating, one person's working.

Speaker 4:
[55:47] Steini's an eye for an eye, dude.

Speaker 2:
[55:49] I also think this is different if you're like Lenn of the Plug and you're fucking... I wouldn't want to live that life.

Speaker 1:
[55:54] Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4:
[55:57] Yeah, there's a huge difference between like, oh, she might win an Academy Award for this versus she's just in some trash fucking scene.

Speaker 1:
[56:05] So, it matters about the quality of the film.

Speaker 4:
[56:08] I think that would have to come in.

Speaker 3:
[56:09] If Santa Cruz's Adam 22 hit you up and said he wanted to do a couple's dinner with you and your girl, would you entertain it?

Speaker 4:
[56:16] Absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[56:16] Why? Adam and Lynn are great people.

Speaker 4:
[56:18] I would not do that. I just, I don't know that I would really want to associate with that. I've heard good things about Adam, that he's a nice guy, but a couple's dinner, I think...

Speaker 3:
[56:27] I could set it up.

Speaker 1:
[56:30] I could get a little carried away.

Speaker 2:
[56:31] They are nice. I don't know if I would just agree with that.

Speaker 4:
[56:34] Yeah, I met him at a basketball event briefly or whatever. He seems like a nice guy. I definitely wouldn't live the way he does.

Speaker 1:
[56:43] Lennon's just rolling with the scenes now though, right? Like on her story, it's like a new guy every week now.

Speaker 2:
[56:49] It's became her marketing angle.

Speaker 1:
[56:52] I follow her and it's like a new guy every week now.

Speaker 3:
[56:56] They asked me to do it. I said I couldn't do it. No.

Speaker 4:
[56:59] Oh my God. They asked you to do the podcast and bang you?

Speaker 3:
[57:02] No, not the podcast, just to run a scene. I was like, I'm not, it's not my thing.

Speaker 1:
[57:05] You're lying.

Speaker 4:
[57:07] No, but that's like their thing. They do a podcast with you, Stiney, and then they bang you.

Speaker 3:
[57:12] Yeah, well, it's good that that video would probably bang, but I was like, I can't do it. Of course it would.

Speaker 1:
[57:17] So who asked you, Adam or Lena?

Speaker 3:
[57:19] I don't want to get too into it.

Speaker 4:
[57:20] There's a huge discrepancy on how, watching a few weeks, we're going to be reviewing the clips on this podcast. Like, oh Stiney, what'd you do this weekend?

Speaker 3:
[57:28] Can't do that one.

Speaker 1:
[57:28] I mean, Lena's bad. Shout out to Adam. She's bad though, right?

Speaker 4:
[57:31] There just seems like, I don't know, man, I don't know what to call it. Like kind of a weird energy with that. My Muslim friends that I hang out with, they call it haram, you know? Yeah. I'm always throwing out that term. There's a kind of like demonic energy to it.

Speaker 1:
[57:43] I'm not Muslim, but even I know that's wrong.

Speaker 4:
[57:46] I just, I can't rock with that, but I try not to cast too much judgment, you know? Same thing.

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Speaker 4:
[59:19] I'm not a toe sucking guy. I don't have the feet thing. Foot massage is just like, there's a health component to that.

Speaker 1:
[59:27] Jesse's hundo.

Speaker 4:
[59:27] The fascia of the foot.

Speaker 1:
[59:28] Jesse would hundo suck toes.

Speaker 2:
[59:30] I don't know. I don't think so.

Speaker 4:
[59:32] Wait, but this is his wife, right?

Speaker 2:
[59:33] I feel like this is like a joke though, no? Like for the photo? This doesn't feel like they're like intimately sucking.

Speaker 1:
[59:38] I mean, bro, if some girls have nice feet.

Speaker 4:
[59:43] This is his wife, right?

Speaker 1:
[59:45] Stiney, you actually, Stiney doesn't get freaky.

Speaker 3:
[59:47] No, I've done that. Yeah, as your missionary, you don't put a foot in your mouth a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[59:52] I've done that. I mean, you're not spending like hours doing it, but.

Speaker 4:
[59:55] He's valid for that. That's fine.

Speaker 1:
[59:56] That's pretty primal, no?

Speaker 4:
[59:58] Yeah, that's got to be very primal.

Speaker 1:
[59:59] That's actually as primal as it gets, no? What's the most primal sex position?

Speaker 4:
[60:04] It's got to be doggy style.

Speaker 1:
[60:05] Doggy? So this doggy is that like the best one to increase test or no?

Speaker 4:
[60:09] Yeah, doggy or like prone bone where they're kind of on that pillow. It's a variation of doggy. I feel like that's the most test raising position, you know? I don't know. They haven't done any studies on this.

Speaker 2:
[60:22] Maybe from behind on the couch. That would be the most primal.

Speaker 1:
[60:26] Standing?

Speaker 2:
[60:27] Standing. And she's leaned over a couch. I think that's like.

Speaker 1:
[60:31] That's the best because you never get tired.

Speaker 2:
[60:33] Yeah, you're mixing furniture in.

Speaker 4:
[60:35] You guys know the legendary clip of Shake That Bear, right? Because that's the most primal. That was the most primal thing ever. It was a woman. It was a woman looks like in Canada. She was with her her mans and it looked like they had just killed a bear or it was like a, you know, it was a dead bear. And she was using the bear much like Jesse. You might use a couch.

Speaker 1:
[60:58] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[60:59] You're against the dead bear.

Speaker 4:
[61:00] You can't pull up that clip, but it was some Canadian ass shit. So shout out to Canada.

Speaker 1:
[61:05] Is it true nutting and girls increases your test?

Speaker 4:
[61:08] Dude, there's a lot of things that like temporarily.

Speaker 3:
[61:10] There's no way I'd have a 2000 test. Go ahead.

Speaker 4:
[61:15] There's a lot of things that temporary increase your test that people love to write like articles about and do all the stuff, but they don't actually like increase your test long term. Like there's like studies where it's like chopping wood increases your test. And while it's true that like if we take your blood levels of testosterone, you're going to have like a little increase maybe after chopping some wood and then they do dumb ass ones like they had people take a bite of an onion I think and like oh it temporarily raise their test. It drops back to baseline and doesn't increase long term. Dude, I could take like this supplement right here and smash it against the wall and run around and break this camera equipment. My test would probably go up temporarily, but like long term test is a bit more complex I think than that.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] Yeah, that's like saying if I drink a coffee, I'll have energy longer for the rest of my life. It's like, yeah. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 3:
[62:01] Yeah, that's right, baby. That was in Denver, right?

Speaker 4:
[62:03] Damn.

Speaker 2:
[62:04] So is it actually glass? That's so sick. I would have thought it would be like plexi or some shit.

Speaker 1:
[62:09] Biggest thing to happen in Denver.

Speaker 3:
[62:11] Oh yeah. Nope, we at Nuggets won a championship. I think the abs did too maybe.

Speaker 4:
[62:17] Are you guys gonna go to that or Stiney, are you gonna go to the Netflix most valuable promotions fight in May?

Speaker 3:
[62:23] Well, it's in Anaheim and I love Nate Diaz, so I might go to support Nate, but...

Speaker 4:
[62:27] Let's go, dude. I'll go with you. I'm gonna be in LA the 12th to 16th.

Speaker 3:
[62:30] Nate Diaz and Francis, it's not a bad card. I don't really want to support them. I love Dana and hopefully that UFC...

Speaker 1:
[62:40] Francis is on it too?

Speaker 3:
[62:41] I DM'd Dana and was like, can you just let me know now if I'm gonna get that White House ticket?

Speaker 4:
[62:48] I don't know if they're giving those out.

Speaker 3:
[62:49] Should I do it right now and just throw that up on the story? I'm just gonna DM him and be like, hey, my summer's getting pretty busy. I'm just curious if I'm gonna get that UFC White Card seat or not.

Speaker 2:
[63:00] Damn, I want to go to this. This is in LA?

Speaker 4:
[63:04] Yeah, let's go to it, dude. Cause I'll be driving back from like West Hollywood to San Diego, I'll just fucking pop in.

Speaker 2:
[63:10] Do you have a connect to this, Cruz? Or are you just buying a ticket?

Speaker 4:
[63:13] I have no connects to it. No, I would just probably have to just buy a ticket. It'd be sick to DM somebody to let us kind of film some shit, but I'll just buy a ticket.

Speaker 2:
[63:21] I talked to Nate, decent amount. Could try. Just be like, well, I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[63:25] Yeah, yeah, let's hit up some folks. See what we can do.

Speaker 2:
[63:27] Or even, wait, is it Jake Paul's promotion? I feel like just hit him up.

Speaker 4:
[63:31] It's a pretty banger car, dude. But Strickland Homestead is before that. That's going to be fucking insane.

Speaker 2:
[63:36] So they're not doing a face-off, eh?

Speaker 4:
[63:38] I mean, holy shit.

Speaker 2:
[63:39] Now they've like hyped it up. It's like they need to do the face-off, like fuck.

Speaker 1:
[63:42] Who said they're not doing it? They're going to do it.

Speaker 4:
[63:44] Dana said they're not going to do many. I don't know, man. Those dudes will just attack each other. Homestead might just attack him. And it's also Homestead's like his goons, you know what I mean? That's what you got to really watch out for. A lot of dudes there that don't have as much to lose and they don't give a fuck. They see the world a different way.

Speaker 2:
[63:59] Sometimes the most anticipated fights end up letting you down. I'm wondering if this is going to be like, it's either going to be, I'm excited for it, but it also, I could see an aught where it's just like, Strickland's getting held down or I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[64:13] You know, Khabib like held a lot of people down. But like at some point, let's say Hamzat has four wins from here in a row where he holds people down. That does create a crazy lore when you become that dominant at that. It does because people want to see you lose. They don't like you. So that does create a star in its own right. It just takes a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[64:33] Yeah, look at Khabib. Like eventually, it kind of why he's like a legend. Yeah, like the it was Khabib and Connor after all their beef in their fight, but they did it with no commentary. It's called on YouTube. So you just hear the audio. Khabib like has him down and he's punching him in the face, but he's just like, yeah, all like it's but it's like three minutes long. He's like, say something now. He's like, talk now. I'm fucking hams, hams, hams. Like he just keeps saying all this shit. Like, like it's like, yeah, see like my whole take on that.

Speaker 3:
[65:04] Like, yeah, that's promotion. But after the fact that everybody's already watching, Connor made fucking say what you want. He made Khabib fucking so much money off that fight, especially on your paper. But you guys come on now for sure.

Speaker 2:
[65:17] I get you cross the line, nothing fake about that beef. That shit was like, no, no. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:22] But Khabib wasn't sitting there even saying anything. McGregor made that fucking fight massive.

Speaker 1:
[65:28] I got a fucking golf every day, all day after this. Somehow.

Speaker 4:
[65:31] Yeah. How's that going?

Speaker 1:
[65:33] Day by day. It's tough.

Speaker 4:
[65:35] Day by day.

Speaker 1:
[65:36] I'm starting with a coach that I fucking blocked off his afternoons now. He's pretty dope. So I'm going to see his ass after this. And then it's just the most insane mental challenge of all time.

Speaker 2:
[65:46] It's sick though that you're starting like new challenges like this. Stope.

Speaker 1:
[65:50] Yeah, it's fun. It keeps you locked in.

Speaker 4:
[65:52] These two things that you have going right now though, the road to 10% and the golf thing, it's almost a little bit counterintuitive because they say when you get in that like 9 to 10% range, you do experience some like more fatigue, some like mental...

Speaker 1:
[66:05] My perfect is 10, 11%. Yeah, under that, I would look flat. That's what we like calculated up. But dude, I just wake up. I actually love it because it's kind of like my dream life right now. Like when I'm older and retired, I literally just want to work out in golf. So it's kind of like what I'm doing. Like I wake up 6.45, fucking work out, come back home, eat, shower, and then golf, then that's it, and then come home and eat again. And then obviously call. Calls in between.

Speaker 4:
[66:37] Yeah, that is the method. I need to get better at golf for when I'm older, bro, because it is like, I'm like, oh, I can do this shit.

Speaker 1:
[66:42] Oh yeah, you went golfing, right? How was it?

Speaker 4:
[66:43] Yeah, super fun, man. I golfed with Daddy Wellness and Big John. It is amazing how somebody like Big John can give you like little tips.

Speaker 1:
[66:50] Big John's nasty, bro.

Speaker 4:
[66:52] Yeah, it helps the golf game tons. But what I do worry about is the pesticides on golf courses. I'm releasing this video today on YouTube.

Speaker 3:
[66:59] You have one to keep the grass maintained?

Speaker 4:
[67:03] Bro.

Speaker 3:
[67:04] It's a maintenance thing.

Speaker 4:
[67:05] We lab tested the grass at a few different golf courses. They are littered with pesticides. Yeah, but they fuck up your health, bro.

Speaker 3:
[67:11] All right. Well, I'll fucking die in 100 for that.

Speaker 1:
[67:15] I haven't said shit, but this is where I draw the line, too.

Speaker 4:
[67:18] You got to have the golf course immaculate, green.

Speaker 1:
[67:23] I don't want to see no fucking brown-ass greens. Use all the pesticides you want.

Speaker 2:
[67:27] So what are you worried about, like touching the grass?

Speaker 4:
[67:30] Pesticide exposure is not good. There's a 124% increase in Parkinson's for people that live within a mile of a golf course. It isn't good. But I do go over ways in the video that I'll launch to mitigate this. Take N-Acetyl Cysteine, get an air filter in your house. If you live on a golf course, filter your water with a reverse osmosis system. There's things you can do. I'm not telling people to not golf. So you're part of the problem.

Speaker 3:
[67:51] You're trying to get people afraid to leave their house. This is like your fucking play.

Speaker 4:
[67:56] Yeah, don't go outside.

Speaker 3:
[67:58] Golf course pesticides.

Speaker 1:
[68:00] Santa Cruz is part of the elite conspiracy?

Speaker 3:
[68:02] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[68:03] Dude, we just lab tested this.

Speaker 1:
[68:05] Right after becoming friends with Stiney.

Speaker 4:
[68:07] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go.

Speaker 1:
[68:11] Trip to Tel Aviv soon.

Speaker 4:
[68:12] Yeah, then I blow up. Let's go, dude.

Speaker 3:
[68:15] I don't think I'm welcome back here.

Speaker 4:
[68:16] No, but that grass was hot with pesticides, so be careful. Be careful out there. At least take some endocetylcysteine, Kyle, and get a fucking air filter if you're staying in a place right near golf course.

Speaker 1:
[68:28] All right, I got a tea time to make, boys. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 4:
[68:32] Have fun.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] See you, boys.

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