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Speaker 1:
[00:02] Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

Speaker 2:
[00:15] Hey, everybody, it's Dolores Catania here today. And I am so excited because we are in the TWOTS seat with the Real Housewives of Atlanta newbie, Pinky Cole.

Speaker 1:
[00:26] Oh, hi, Dolores.

Speaker 2:
[00:27] Pinky.

Speaker 1:
[00:29] How are you?

Speaker 2:
[00:29] Just to hear you say my name excites me. I want you to know that you speak to me so much, and we're gonna get to all of that. And you should be so proud of yourself. You are doing some job.

Speaker 3:
[00:42] Thank you, I appreciate that. It's been a while, Rhoa, for sure, I'll tell you that. But you know, I wouldn't trade it for the world. I would not trade it for the world.

Speaker 2:
[00:49] You know, there's some times you're gonna say that, and there's some times that you're not gonna say that.

Speaker 3:
[00:55] No, I'm always gonna say that. Even with that. Yeah? Yeah, I didn't do hell and back. I know what hell feels like.

Speaker 2:
[01:01] Well, I was just gonna say, you do know what hell feels like, and you've been very honest, very, very honest about that. And I appreciate that. And, you know, I was reading, I love, I even love the title of your books, Eat Plants Bitch, because I don't want to eat plants. You know, my daughter's a vegan.

Speaker 3:
[01:22] Oh, is she?

Speaker 2:
[01:23] My daughter, Gabrielle. Yes, she's been since seventh grade. She's 30 years old now. She's also a veterinarian. And I didn't know what to do with this bitch when she decided to come home after watching Supersize Me and come home from school in seventh grade and say, I'll never eat meat again.

Speaker 3:
[01:45] Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2:
[01:46] She never did.

Speaker 3:
[01:48] Oh, I love that for her.

Speaker 2:
[01:49] And the more, yes, and the more educated she gets, the less she wants to eat meat. Just really quick, what brought you to that? I want to know because.

Speaker 3:
[02:01] Well, you know, it's interesting because just like your daughter, my mother is a Rastafarian, so I grew up in a household where we did not eat meat, we ate fish, right?

Speaker 2:
[02:10] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[02:12] Can you imagine my mother never shaved, doesn't wear earrings, never wore makeup? So very regal, very natural. Okay, like you couldn't eat pork, you couldn't eat beef, you couldn't eat any of that stuff in our household. So I just adopted her way of life. And I remember going to college. It was in 2007. I was a freshman and I went to college and I had a chicken sandwich and it made me sick.

Speaker 2:
[02:35] Oh, sure did. Your body was used to that. Oh, you got food poisoning. And was your body not used to that?

Speaker 3:
[02:42] I just don't know. I just said that I wasn't ever doing that shit again.

Speaker 2:
[02:45] I wish I got sick from all food.

Speaker 3:
[02:47] Right. And after that, I just completely cut out any meat. And I was still eating fish for a couple of years. And then in 2013, I cut out everything. So this has literally been like a lifelong journey for me. So, you know, some people like they go vegan overnight, like just like your daughter, I've been doing this for a very long time. And I'm also like a master faster. Like I always want to challenge myself to eliminate something that I don't need. And I've been like that for a very long time. But, you know, I never knew that going vegan would allow me to create a hundred million dollar brand would be my storyline on a TV show. Right. Like it really like set the pathway for all of the things that I have going on. So it works.

Speaker 2:
[03:24] Well, there's so much more to you as far as I'm concerned, the way I look at you as a woman who I find to be so internally strong than being this master vegan cook that I'm going to buy your book so I can make my daughter something to eat for the first time in her life. And I also want to read, I hope you fail because so many people are so scared, right? And it's all about failing and then making it back. There was something to be said about, let me see, you know, you can make it, but can you lose it and make it again?

Speaker 3:
[04:05] Yes. And I feel like showing us that. That's the biggest thing. Like I've had so many losses in my life, but I've also had so many lessons from those losses. I don't know if you know this Dolores, I had a Jamaican restaurant in Harlem, New York, okay? Popping, lying down the block, people loving the brand, everything. I know what the hell I was doing, right? And then one day I had a grease fire and I lost everything. I got kicked out of my house, evicted, okay? My car got repo, went flat broke at the time I was in a relationship. He ended up going to jail. It was just a mess, okay? So my life at that point felt like it was falling apart. I found myself trying to get food stamps. I fell into a depression for the first time. And you got to imagine, Dolores, this is me. I was Miss Carcalana, Miss Junior, competed in a local Miss America pageant system. Like everything that I've ever touch turned to gold until now. So I had to navigate what failure by society standards look like. But when I tell you that's the best thing that could have ever happened to me, because what it did is it repositioned me to do what God called me to do, right? And that was working on a TV show that drove me to Atlanta to create Slutty Vegan and now having this hundred million dollar brand. So like, I don't take anything for granted. And I believe that failures are not failures at all. It's finding the aspiration in the losses.

Speaker 2:
[05:28] I want to thank you for that. And you don't know how many people need to hear that.

Speaker 3:
[05:33] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[05:33] You know, your strength is such an inspiration. Do you feel like, because I was thinking when I meet people, the first thing I want to know, and you just told me so much about your mom, the first thing I want to know is how were you raised? Because that takes a place, a big part in how you're going to survive when life hits you hard. Now, do you give that credit to your mom from being able to pick yourself up and brush yourself off and say, okay, I had a minute to be depressed. I had a minute to be in this position. But now I know who I am and I know where I come from. I'm going to get out of it.

Speaker 3:
[06:08] Let me tell you something about mindset. My father served 22 years in prison, but you would never tell because every time I got on the phone with that man, he was in good spirits, he had a positive vibration, his frequency was always elevated, he was making my bad days better. You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:
[06:25] Yes, I do understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3:
[06:26] Can you imagine somebody physically trapped behind bars, but being mentally free? I believe that I learned a lot about mindset from my father because he didn't stay stuck to his circumstance. Yeah, he did over two decades in prison, but he was teaching me stocks. He was teaching me about books and teaching me about Napoleon Hill and how to be an entrepreneur and how to be the best. When I walk in a room, I own that room. That was my father teaching me that. But then my mother, what I got from my mother is, she's always been consistently loyal. That's why I don't play with friendships. My mother worked at the same job and still works at the same job, 39 years.

Speaker 2:
[07:05] I love everything about you, Pinky.

Speaker 3:
[07:07] I just have to tell you.

Speaker 2:
[07:08] I love you back. Thank you. I really do. I think everything that belongs on Housewives.

Speaker 3:
[07:15] Thank you. You know what's crazy, Delores? I don't even fit, and that's why it's a perfect fit.

Speaker 2:
[07:19] You think you don't. For me, you do. Why do you think you don't?

Speaker 3:
[07:23] No, what I'm saying is, it's like sometimes people have this misconception that everybody is supposed to look the same. That is not what makes a all-star ensemble cast. What makes-

Speaker 2:
[07:36] I have to tell you, right now, you're looking like a housewife. I'm not looking like a housewife, right? Most days, Pinky, I do not look like a housewife.

Speaker 3:
[07:47] Me neither. But you know what? What I will say is, I believe that I filled a gap that was heavily needed on this show. Shout out to all of the women. Some of them get on my nerves, Dolores. They all are God's children. They all have great qualities about them that qualify them to be on such an amazing show as this. But as for me and mine, I come with my quirkiness. I come with my positive attitude. I'm optimistic in all things. Yeah, you're going to see me crying, but I may get back and here I am. What's up?

Speaker 2:
[08:33] You know, I see you crying over real stuff, Pinky. See, I'm not a crier, but I'm not a crier. But you know, you came into this with a lot going on in your life, and you're willing to talk about it. So I don't feel, and I do have, I have to ask you, were you hesitant? I don't feel you were, but I don't think.

Speaker 3:
[09:01] You know, it's funny, Delores, I wasn't a crier too. I wasn't a crier either. But when you lose a hundred million dollar bread, you're going to share some tears. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[09:09] Pinky, I'm afraid to lose what I got. Okay. No clothes, nowhere close to it.

Speaker 3:
[09:16] You're going to share some tears. What was I nervous to share? No, and I'll tell you why. Before the world knew about my bankruptcy, I suffered in silence. I crumbled all by myself. I had to navigate alone. I had people turn their back on me in private. God was really putting me in position to test me like, listen, this is going to hurt, but I'm going to build you like a skin of armor that nothing is going to affect you after you get over this hump. What the world is seeing now, I'm already healing from. You understand what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[09:51] Right. I do, of course I do.

Speaker 3:
[09:54] It wasn't hard for me to just be my, and I've always just kept it real. I don't know how long you've been following my journey, but for the people who have followed me.

Speaker 2:
[10:02] I've been following you since you're on.

Speaker 3:
[10:04] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:04] Now that I know you, I want to know more about you.

Speaker 3:
[10:07] Thank you. But I've just always just genuinely kept it real because I didn't have many examples of realness in entrepreneurship. People will show the highlight reels. They're going to show you the things, the pretty edited photos. But is somebody going to tell you about what happens when failure is on the horizon or when you're losing it all in real time and you got million dollar problems and not hundred dollar problems? Nobody's really going to have enough power to talk about that because we have so much pride as a people and there's a fear of judgment. But I know who I am and I know whose I am. So at the end of the day, like no judgment. You know, there's a saying, sticks and stones can hurt my bones. You know that?

Speaker 2:
[10:47] But names can never hurt me.

Speaker 3:
[10:50] So I'm so self-aware in who I am.

Speaker 2:
[10:54] I see that and that resonates.

Speaker 3:
[10:56] That really does. Yeah, but you know, I am, this is all a part of the testimony and I'm just happy to be, I'm not in the driver's seat this time. I'm actually in the passenger seat. God is in the driver's seat. I told God, if you ever get me through this, I will always say your name in every single room. So I hate to be preachy, but God really is the only thing that got me out of my hardest time.

Speaker 2:
[11:14] You can never get too preachy with me, just so you know. But what, you know, when you, this is when I fell in love with you, I'm gonna tell you. I don't throw that word around much, and you can ask around about me, but I'm gonna tell you, when you said you cried alone because you didn't want to put the burden of what you were going through on your husband, by the way, I like him.

Speaker 3:
[11:36] Well, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[11:37] I like him. And I think he's a good guy. And I thought so much of you for that. Because so many times I see women crying over things that don't really matter. And very pettiness. And I feel like, don't waste the tears on that, because it's getting on my nerves. Like, I get actually annoyed. I'm known for that. Like, you're not allowed to cry in front of me. But when you did, I got, like, choked up. Because that's been me so many times, crying to myself, not even telling my best friends. Because I internalize it. I think about it. I figure out I'm also considerate. Like, I don't want to put that on somebody else.

Speaker 3:
[12:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:20] I get you.

Speaker 3:
[12:21] Yeah, I'm considerate. You know, people are like, well, you don't communicate with your husband.

Speaker 2:
[12:26] I'll stop.

Speaker 3:
[12:26] Please, just suck it, right? Like, the reality of it is, is I'm independent. And what makes a great entrepreneur is you're a really great problem solver, okay? And I know how to solve problems.

Speaker 2:
[12:38] Making it back again.

Speaker 3:
[12:39] Yeah, like, and it may be hard to solve this kind of problem, but I can solve this problem. And I don't want to be anybody's burden. I just, whether in this setting or anybody else, I don't want to be nobody's burden. I don't want to be nobody's victim, nothing.

Speaker 2:
[12:51] No, and that's just the way it is. Like even, I was going for a heart ablation. I didn't tell my family. I didn't tell my sisters. Paul knew because he drove me. I show up in the lobby and there's my brother at five o'clock in the morning. I'm like, I did not want this. My friends are like, but you didn't tell me. You just went for a heart ablation. I'm like, so I get it. And finance, like, it'll wake me up at night. What am I doing with this? Did I read this contract right? It wakes me up, Pinky. But I get you in working on it yourself. And I don't condemn whoever doesn't. But I'm like you more, and I like that about you.

Speaker 3:
[13:31] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[13:31] But you're getting to know the Housewives world, and you're getting to know the girls, and you know they like to dig. But I don't think you're afraid of that.

Speaker 3:
[13:41] No, I'm a big girl.

Speaker 2:
[13:42] You wrote books on your stuff.

Speaker 3:
[13:44] Yeah, I mean, you can't dig nothing that I haven't dug up myself, right? Like, all the dirty laundry I've dished out on my own so that I can share my own narrative. You can't give me a narrative that I haven't given myself.

Speaker 2:
[13:57] You know, that, well, that's the other thing. But online, they were making a lot of content about like what you didn't want to talk about. Wasn't there something I just, what was it? You closed the records, was it, or something?

Speaker 3:
[14:11] Well, I just didn't want to, who wants to openly talk about their finances? Do you want the world in your bank account? No, for what?

Speaker 2:
[14:17] Do you, we're not talking about, there's three letters we don't want bothering us. You know who I'm talking to.

Speaker 3:
[14:22] Yeah, I've already given you enough of me.

Speaker 2:
[14:25] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:
[14:26] I'm about to get my money. You asked me to get inside of the crack of my ass, too? Like, what do I think you want?

Speaker 2:
[14:31] You know, that's fair. You're talking about your feelings. You're talking about what you failed, what you lost, what you made, what you've been through, when you cry. There needs to be a boundary. I'm not against that.

Speaker 3:
[14:43] There needs to be a boundary, yeah. And, you know, my attorney asked the judge and fingers crossed, we're waiting for them to, you know, fulfill that request. But I've been such an open book. Like, I just want some people to myself. You understand what I'm saying? Like, that's literally what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[15:00] And that's not a big ask, Pinky. It's not. And I respect that. But there was a little thing. I saw a little tea on a teaser. You and Angela had a little something, something.

Speaker 3:
[15:13] Oh, tell me, tell me. Well, you got to watch it first.

Speaker 2:
[15:17] I know.

Speaker 3:
[15:18] I'll give you a little highlight.

Speaker 2:
[15:20] Give me something.

Speaker 3:
[15:21] So she called me Mr. Clean. We know that. And I'm the cleanest, as you can see. And we had some back and forth. But what I will say is, you know, me and Angela got more in common than we don't, right? And as I even watched the show and the episodes, and I'm like, hmm, you know, there's a lot of insults hurling, but we definitely got a lot in common and we should have more conversations than we don't. But, but when you watch it, you know, listen, there's nothing wrong with a little healthy banter on the show, right?

Speaker 2:
[15:52] Like, no, I mean, that's what it's all about. Healthy banter, not toxic.

Speaker 3:
[15:56] As long as you can come back and like come back around, it is what it is, right? Like the girlies are going to fight sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[16:03] Angela's known for her ones, her one-liners. She's known for her good one-liners.

Speaker 3:
[16:08] Yeah, she has a good one-liners, whatever. And so do I.

Speaker 2:
[16:11] I know. Well, we're getting to know you, and I'm so excited. But what about the one thing that you were just, I just saw the lunch between the girls, and K. Michelle was pissed off, of course, at Porsha. She was going in on it. Cynthia's in the middle, which I've been in the middle so many times, Pinky, of something going on. It's like a few sandwich because you know you got to go back and now tell your friends what they said. And then you come up and you go, Phaedra's eating dead people. And I'm like, oh, Cynthia wants to run out now. I know, because now it's fair game. Cynthia has to repeat what you said when she wasn't on the day. But I know, I don't think you cared. But where did you get that from?

Speaker 3:
[16:53] Where did that even come from? Well, you know, she was according to what I was told. She was going around telling people I eat meat. So if I eat meat, you eat dead people.

Speaker 2:
[17:02] Well, that was a, that was a comeback. Oh, now I get it. Okay, you weren't just, okay, you're right, because that was in the scene. Okay, now I know. Okay, well, you know, Tushay. I don't think you're going to be sitting there and letting people say nothing.

Speaker 3:
[17:19] Oh, absolutely not. Like, no, yeah, I might be new to this show, but I'm an OG. So like, you're not going to like, you say something about me, I'm going to say it back.

Speaker 2:
[17:29] So I swear, Pinky, I'm not kidding. Like, I'm not kissing your eyes. I'm just saying, like, I'm a fan, and you feel like you've been on a long time.

Speaker 3:
[17:38] You know, people say that.

Speaker 2:
[17:40] I feel that.

Speaker 3:
[17:42] I take it as a compliment.

Speaker 2:
[17:43] You should.

Speaker 3:
[17:44] I'm just being myself. I'm just being real. I'm not producing myself. I'm not like forging any storylines. It's just me. This is my real self. In real life, if somebody come at me, I'ma come back, you know? Like, I'm just doing what I would normally do in my real world.

Speaker 2:
[17:59] So what do you find more stressful? Filming Housewives of Atlanta or building your multimillion dollar company?

Speaker 3:
[18:08] Oh, for sure. I'm building my company.

Speaker 2:
[18:10] This is a hobby for you, isn't it?

Speaker 3:
[18:12] This is light work compared. You got to understand, like, I got taxes. I got employees to pay. Okay. I got workers comp. I got old lawsuits. I got new pending.

Speaker 2:
[18:22] This is nothing.

Speaker 3:
[18:23] This is nothing. Okay. You want reality? Come on over to Slutty Vegan, okay? You can get you a sloppy top or one-night stands of lawsuits at the same damn time. Okay. It's all there.

Speaker 2:
[18:36] It's all there. It's all there. But, you know, I'd love to see you with your own show, going into restaurants and fixing them up. I know that's a show already, but I'd like to see you do it. And I'd also like to see you do it for Kelly. Like, if you could give Kelly constructive criticism, I feel that girl goes through a lot. Sometimes she gets on my nerves because she yells a lot. I gotta be honest. And, you know, she does start things. And I know she does. And that's what we're all about. But I can't take the yelling, but I like her. And I know she's got a lot on her plate. She's got to take care of those girls. She's a single mother. She's got businesses that have failed. What would you tell her?

Speaker 3:
[19:17] So I haven't told her this to her face, but I'll tell you this. I think that Kelly has something so special that she actually should get out of actually owning restaurants and create a product line that will serve restaurant tours around the world. Hit me out. Okay. So Kelly wears heels to the damn bathroom.

Speaker 2:
[19:38] I know.

Speaker 3:
[19:39] The basketball game. She is a healer. Okay. You will never see her in sneakers, but she also owns restaurant businesses, right? So what if Kelly started a non-slip high heel shoe, right? That owner operators could wear in their restaurants. Okay. So that they can wear their heels in the kitchen. It's so on brand for her, right? It's so like on point. And now she doesn't have to worry about doing restaurants. Hell, I don't even want to worry about doing restaurants. But I believe that she needs to create products for the restaurant industry because she has the swag, she has a personality, she's a beautiful woman, and she wears heels all the time. So there is a pocket of women and men who want to wear heels in the kitchen and she can create a product line for them. That is what I would tell her.

Speaker 2:
[20:25] Well, I think that's great. Even me as a person walking through the restaurant, sometimes I'm shuffling. Yes. I shuffle because I feel like I'm going to fall. If one of the Atlanta house sites were deciding whether to invest in your business, who would you trust the least to invest?

Speaker 3:
[20:42] I'm sorry. Who would I trust the least to invest? I would trust the least, Phaedra.

Speaker 2:
[20:53] Really?

Speaker 3:
[20:54] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] Okay. Fair enough. And out of all the ladies on the cast, who was the most welcoming? Because this means a lot to me, and I never forget who was nice to me when I first started. Who was the most welcoming, and who was the least welcoming?

Speaker 3:
[21:21] The most? Everybody was pretty welcoming. Everybody really was. I can't say that there wasn't anybody that wasn't. Everybody, and the least, there was no, like nobody gave me a cold shoulder, right? So, and I don't know if it's because the level of respect that they had for me, but everybody was pretty nice.

Speaker 2:
[21:39] I think everybody starts off like nice. Yeah, they should.

Speaker 3:
[21:43] They start there.

Speaker 2:
[21:45] I'm saying outside housewives, there were a few I met that were a little like snobby. To me, when I first started, I never would treat anybody like that.

Speaker 3:
[21:54] Yeah. It just pays to be a good person.

Speaker 2:
[21:57] You never know.

Speaker 3:
[21:58] You never know. The person that you need to is going to be your boss one day, so stop playing.

Speaker 2:
[22:02] No, it doesn't hurt. Who do you think on the cast is the hardest on the newbies?

Speaker 3:
[22:08] The hardest on the newbies? Nobody. I mean, you can't be hard on K. Michelle. She's on the newbie. You know what I'm saying? You damn sure can't be hard on me. I've been in the game for a long time. I just ain't been in front of people. No.

Speaker 2:
[22:24] I think that, listen, they did a good job casting.

Speaker 3:
[22:26] Oh, did they ever.

Speaker 2:
[22:28] Who are you closest with currently? K. Oh, you and K. Oh, nice. So the newbies got together. We did.

Speaker 3:
[22:38] It's a great feeling. This is my first time on reality TV, right? So this is so new for me. K has been on the show for a long time. So being able to do this season with her, it probably would be so much different if I didn't have her by my side. So I'm happy that I got to take this journey with her.

Speaker 2:
[22:55] I love that.

Speaker 3:
[22:56] You know, that's my girl, off camera, on camera and off camera.

Speaker 2:
[23:00] I love, so it's authentic and it's sincere and you guys stuck together like people should. And I love that. I love everything about this. I always say the way you start is the way you end, Pinky.

Speaker 3:
[23:11] Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2:
[23:14] I just, there is so much, there's just one thing like, in your opinion, there's so much, since you're so close with K. Michelle, there's so much diversion on who, about the miscarriage comment. Like people think she didn't mean it. Some people think she did mean it. I think it was wrong. I think it was insensitive, but we know Porsha blurts things out. So I didn't think it was intentional. Doesn't make it okay. K. Michelle, I'm letting you know under no circumstances. But how do you feel about it?

Speaker 3:
[23:47] You know, I've seen both sides. I've seen it before it aired. So I was present in the conversations when it happened. And then I also watched the episode. I will say that Porsha lives in her own beautiful state of delusion. Okay. She lives in her own bubble, just like we all do. Right. I totally understand where K comes from, especially because the people who know her knows that she wants to have another child. And they know how incredible difficult it's been to have a child. So to blurt something out like that was super insensitive.

Speaker 2:
[24:19] A hundred percent.

Speaker 3:
[24:20] K has all right to feel like how she felt. But now on the other side of delusion, when I watched the show, I realized that I don't even realize that Porsha knew that the insult was happening in real time. So I appreciate the fact that she apologized and her apology felt genuine. Now you just got to watch the show to see what happens after that. But it was definitely out of line, but I'm happy that she apologized about it.

Speaker 2:
[24:42] Because we know Porsha to have said blurred out things that shouldn't be said.

Speaker 3:
[24:47] Well, that doesn't make it okay because she can blurt out things. But I just think that the conversation was so insensitive.

Speaker 2:
[24:52] It was.

Speaker 3:
[24:53] As a woman who has gone through so much trauma trying to conceive, that is a tough conversation to have. If Porsha would have said that to me, I would have felt the same exact way, but I also would have accepted her apology if she would have genuinely apologized.

Speaker 2:
[25:08] That's fair enough, and I agree with you 100% on all of it. Yes. So nothing makes it okay, but there was the intention behind it. I didn't see it, and the apology was valid.

Speaker 3:
[25:20] The apology was fake. That I don't know, all right, hell no. But the apology was self-denial.

Speaker 2:
[25:27] It absolutely did. And to wrap this, is there any rumors about your business or your finances that you want to shut down or that you want to use this platform? A lot of people listen here, just so you know. So if there's anything that you want to put out, promote or just shut down, we're here for it.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] Whatever you hear, you hear. I ain't correct this shit. That's it. Whatever it is that you got, you got. And you just got to watch the show so you can get the truth.

Speaker 2:
[25:53] Well, I am going to watch the show, and I'm going to watch you. And I am a big fan of you.

Speaker 3:
[25:59] Thank you so much. It was so nice to meet you, and I love your interview.

Speaker 2:
[26:03] Thank you so much. That means a lot to me, and I can't wait to meet you in person, and I'm sure I will, because I think you have a very long life in this business, sweetheart.

Speaker 3:
[26:12] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[26:13] And good luck to you for everything, and we stand behind you. Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[26:16] Talk soon.

Speaker 2:
[26:17] Talk soon.