title Survivor 50 | Ep. 9 Recap: Rewriting The Rules

description No Buffs recaps the ninth episode of Survivor 50: In the Hands of the Fans. Topics include: Devens catching heat for his idol shenanigans at Tribal Council, whether Christian got screwed by Jimmy Fallon, The Rice War of Manulevu, Cirie's mist, Jeff competing in the challenge, Survivor compliments, what to expect from MrBeast next episode, and more.
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pubDate Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:43:26 GMT

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Speaker 1:
[00:14] Grab your torch and dip it in to the sexy St. Jeff candle. No Buffs is back. I'm JD Skeets here in the Classic Factory, along with my fellow Tribemates, three people who shall be named. It's Nora Artinian, it's Trey Kerby, and it's super producer JD.

Speaker 2:
[00:30] Hello, everyone.

Speaker 3:
[00:31] Hi. Thanks for the name.

Speaker 4:
[00:32] Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1:
[00:34] Thanks for joining us, everybody on YouTube. We love it. Hit the like button, subscribe, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. Share the show. We've gotten some recent reviews. Very kind reviews.

Speaker 4:
[00:45] Yes, we have a few really kind ones and one real mean one.

Speaker 1:
[00:49] Oh, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 4:
[00:51] What's that?

Speaker 3:
[00:52] How was it? How bad was it?

Speaker 4:
[00:53] It was like one sentence. It called us holier than thou and a bunch of clowns.

Speaker 1:
[00:58] Facts.

Speaker 4:
[00:58] Shout out to you. Here to entertain.

Speaker 1:
[01:02] See, you're focusing on the one bad review. Well, I've talked about how many other good ones.

Speaker 4:
[01:07] Words of affirmation are important to me. And I love that some of the people are writing wonderful reviews.

Speaker 1:
[01:11] I know. It's very nice.

Speaker 4:
[01:12] Number one, the most recent one, was very thoughtfully written, as opposed to Allie J., who wrote the mean one.

Speaker 1:
[01:19] Oh, no, that's a he or she who shall not be named. Come on.

Speaker 4:
[01:23] That's nice.

Speaker 1:
[01:24] We are here to recap the ninth episode of Survivor 50, titled, I Deserve All of This. Jeff Probst, getting credit for the actual line said in the episode. I wonder how many times that's happened. Can't be the first, but it's pretty rare. Usually going to somebody actually playing the game. No, Jeff sort of was last night. Let's break it down, because there's a lot to discuss. There's another celebrity to discuss in Jimmy Fallon. But we start night 16, post Tribal Council, Chrissy and Coach just went home. Rick is getting scolded by his one-man idol show.

Speaker 4:
[02:04] They're so mad at him.

Speaker 1:
[02:05] The first 20 minutes of this episode, they're gonna be like, what the hell was that, Rick?

Speaker 4:
[02:08] Yeah, Rick.

Speaker 1:
[02:09] That was a lot, Rick. What were you doing, Rick?

Speaker 4:
[02:11] They're so upset with him.

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Yeah. Jonathan tells Devens, didn't look good. Steph does ask for some clarification about this idol, which we know is a fake idol. Rick says, it's a real idol, but I didn't play it, you see, because it doesn't activate until I actually leave Tribal Council and get back to camp. Not a bad lie. Not a bad lie. It's not bad, right, in trying to convince people that it is real, and that's why you didn't play it at that particular Tribal Council.

Speaker 4:
[02:42] I thought it was pretty smart. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:45] Joe's mad. Well, actually, Joe's not mad. He's just disappointed in Devens with this again, this flashy showy idol play. Rick tells Emily that he planted the idol at Tribal Council days ago. It's all bullshit.

Speaker 4:
[02:58] Yikes.

Speaker 1:
[02:59] And we were like, oh God, why are you telling her? Not Emily.

Speaker 4:
[03:01] Oh, no. Oh, no.

Speaker 1:
[03:03] But, you know, Emily, at least from what we could tell from the other, doesn't tell anyone else that it is a fake idol.

Speaker 4:
[03:09] Yeah, from what we saw.

Speaker 1:
[03:10] Yeah. But she's a little peeved.

Speaker 3:
[03:12] She's peeved.

Speaker 1:
[03:13] At Rick putting their alliance in jeopardy with his antics. So again, yeah, there was a lot of just being upset at Rick Devens.

Speaker 3:
[03:21] A lot of people mad at Rick Devens saying, why did you do that? Pretty much. You know, why did you do that? You didn't need to do that. And it's hard for us to know. All the votes went towards Coach and Chrissy for the most part. You know, a couple here and there that were not. But Devens certainly felt like the pressure was on and he needed to make a move. I guess it won't be until after he's eliminated or until the show ends that we know just how in danger was this guy. Did he need to do this at all? Because if he didn't need to, then it was kind of just like showmanship for no reason.

Speaker 1:
[03:52] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[03:53] But thank you for the great TV.

Speaker 1:
[03:55] And he even admitted it as such in this episode. He's like, I'm just here to make great TV. And we're like, yeah, that's what we sort of thought was going on. You came up with this great plan, the fake idol, put it there in advance, and then at some point make this big, dramatic move where you go and get it.

Speaker 4:
[04:08] Yeah, I'm glad he wasn't disheartened by all the feedback he got from everybody. He was like, I'm loving this. Totally unbothered. I need to learn more from Devens and be more unbothered about people coming for you and saying not nice things.

Speaker 2:
[04:21] Well, let's be fair. I mean, his name was being thrown around.

Speaker 3:
[04:25] It was 100 percent.

Speaker 2:
[04:26] So he was the level of the danger. Who knows by the time they got to travel council, but they were all shook by it. So mission accomplished. So they're just pissed off that it was something that they did not see coming. Yeah, really. At the end of the day.

Speaker 1:
[04:44] So they were also making it seem like it was so much more dramatic than we saw in the episode. Like, I don't know, from what we saw, he's like, OK, I'm in danger. I'm getting up. I'm marching right over to where this clue has told me where it is. I got it. OK, suckers. But like they made it seem like it was like a song and dance that Rick Devens put on for 25 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[05:07] I think this speaks to how much pressure they are feeling. Like, it's just high stakes. They're all desperate to stay in the game. And something this unexpected just... And, you know, he's a chaotic player, as we know. So, you know, they're all just like mad at him because you scare the shit out of me, man. Like, every time I walk into a room, Rachel fucking jumps and says, she's mad at me because I walked into the room. Like, because it's chaotic. It's not what she expected. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[05:35] She doesn't expect her husband to...

Speaker 4:
[05:38] That is a universal experience of women who live with another person.

Speaker 1:
[05:41] Yeah, you jump from time to time.

Speaker 3:
[05:42] Women be jumpy. Am I right, fellas?

Speaker 2:
[05:46] Fellas, come on.

Speaker 4:
[05:49] Jumpy AF.

Speaker 1:
[05:50] So explain it for those that have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 4:
[05:53] What? I'll be in our bedroom getting ready or getting dressed and all of a sudden you'll walk into the room and I'll go, ah!

Speaker 2:
[06:00] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[06:02] Women are thinking of a jillion different things at once. We multitask in different ways. I'm not always very present in where I am.

Speaker 1:
[06:08] You should be thinking, what room is my husband in now? What room is he in now?

Speaker 4:
[06:13] Also, I will say, I do think the technology of AirPods are so bad for this because I often will be listening to something and then all of a sudden I turn around and you're there and I obviously don't hear you approach. So that's definitely part of it.

Speaker 1:
[06:25] Yeah. You got to turn off the noise canceling part on the AirPods. Look, I'm guilty too. Steph, Joe and Jonathan, they talk about being blindsided at The Last Tribal Council. Ozzy does saddle up there as well. He's in on the mix. Steph tells us in a confessional, she's going to play Miss Nice Girl, but she's going to slit some throats. So Steph, you know, working on her plan here, moving forward in this game. Otherwise, not a lot from Steph in this, not a lot from Tiff in this episode. Day 17 though, Ozzy and Rizzo talk about how dumb a move it was by Devens at Tribal Council. So they were talking about it at night, they were talking about it on Day 17. He did too much. They're saying, but those two are like, you know what? This is maybe good for our game because others are now less worried about our actual idols that we do have and that we know are real. So maybe it's a blessing in disguise for them. Ozzy, Cirie and Joe though, they keep piling on here, Devens. They're like mocking them. This is where Joe is doing some physical humor now. I gave Joe credit the other day on an episode of No Buffs. Like, oh, that was a funny thing he said at a Tribal Council. Yeah, this was pretty funny, him doing like Devens reenactment at Tribal Council.

Speaker 4:
[07:40] For sure. Again, I mean, I feel like from what we watched, it didn't seem like it was like that. But maybe there it was a more drawn out thing where he dug through the rocks and found his thing. It seemed only a few seconds when we watched it.

Speaker 1:
[07:54] His energy, Rick Devens' energy is always like that, I find, you know? It's sort of like frantic, spastic. But yeah, they're like, at least be chill about it.

Speaker 4:
[08:03] At least be cool, like me. What are they talking about? Cirie was enjoying it, though.

Speaker 1:
[08:11] Yeah, she's like, do it again, John, do it again.

Speaker 4:
[08:15] Dance for me, come on.

Speaker 1:
[08:16] Cirie then notes how Rick has just made a bullseye on his back. So more talk about this. I guess what I'm getting at is here, it's not probably looking good here for Rick Devens. Of course, in this episode, you get some votes, but moving forward here immediately, probably not great.

Speaker 3:
[08:31] Oh, definitely not great.

Speaker 1:
[08:32] Although I guess some of them think it might be a real idol.

Speaker 3:
[08:34] Some of them do. I mean, to me, the only one who's convinced it's not is Stephanie. Like she seems to be, she was asking questions about it immediately. She was following up like the fallout portion of it. But yeah, I mean, he was at least under fire before pulling the fake idol. He loses an ally in Christian in this episode. We don't know what's going to happen with Emily with regards to the whole fake thing. And she didn't spill the beans yet, but yeah, you know, there's still episodes to come. Yeah, not great for Rick.

Speaker 1:
[09:03] Yeah. So Cirie then gets a quick scene here about her talking about her position in the game. And just like she's cooking because she sort of has an in with every faction of this game. She goes through it. She lays it all out. And it's like, okay, well, this was an interesting inclusion here.

Speaker 4:
[09:21] She's like, hey, look how cool I am. Yeah, everybody likes me. So good. Everyone likes me that I mentioned they're all gonna be on the jury.

Speaker 1:
[09:28] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[09:29] It's just pretty a great position to be in in this game.

Speaker 1:
[09:34] Yeah. I mean, it's either the edit hitting us over the head that Cirie is going to win this game. And here's just a nice friendly reminder because of her position in the game. Or I think much more likely it's like, this is why she's going to go, everybody, at four or five or whenever, because, yeah, she'd win the game if she's sitting there. I don't know what your read on this was or this scene, this inclusion of this scene.

Speaker 3:
[09:56] Yeah, she's basically being set up as the final boss. Like, you get Cirie out, you probably are going to win. Like, if you're in charge of doing that because she's just so in with everybody. We've had back to back episodes of the person who ends up getting voted out going up to Cirie and being like, we should get rid of your number one. And she's like, yeah, we should. Because they don't have any idea that she's tight with everybody. Everybody thinks they're Cirie's number one, except for her actual number one, who as soon as she gets information about Ozzy, she's like, let me tell you something.

Speaker 4:
[10:25] It is pretty amazing that nobody seems to know her, Ozzy and Rizzo are affiliated.

Speaker 1:
[10:30] Yeah, they keep coming to Cirie about these plans to get out those people. I also love how she handles when she gets that information.

Speaker 4:
[10:37] She's like someone said in the chat earlier, she's like the godfather. She's very calm. They say something, she's like, oh, okay, yeah, sure.

Speaker 1:
[10:44] Yeah, she doesn't immediately like, no, like why would we do that? Or like get like, she's just like, yeah, okay, yeah, I'll think that through and then immediately tells obviously her alliance members. Jonathan is freaking out a bit. He thinks he can still use Ozzy though. I mean, he's freaking out because Chrissy and Coach, two people in his alliance have gone. Aubrey though confides in Jonathan that she'd like to distance herself from Rick Devens here. She wants to shake the game up. She means business. And if there's going to be any nerds there at the end, it's going to be her. Only one dork sitting there. Yeah, it's just sort of weird. But she's trying to make a move here and again separate herself from Rick Devens because everybody can't stop talking about, oh, this guy.

Speaker 4:
[11:25] I mean, I didn't have this combination on my bingo card of Jonathan and Aubrey, but there's a reason they included this scene. So perhaps this is something they are going to build upon and move forward together.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] I mean, Aubrey is always here to play the game of Survivor and is trying to play to win, I think, so starts to realize the lay of the land and maybe her chances in the pecking order of winning this thing, really, I got to do something here. Yeah. So this is why this is here. And once again, somebody's lying in a hammock and somebody else is like, crouched down and talking to them. That's the go-to spot.

Speaker 3:
[12:00] Hammock chats.

Speaker 1:
[12:00] I mean, there's two hammocks too.

Speaker 3:
[12:03] I think they're going to be far enough away from the structure that you can have a covert conversation over there. Aubrey's voted the right way every time, so she's in on the plans. But it feels like she's trying to lead the plans, but not actually leading the plans. So I wonder if we'll get more of her in control in the next couple of episodes here.

Speaker 1:
[12:20] Yeah. Anything to add on Aubrey's episode here, JD? It wasn't a whole lot either outside of that.

Speaker 2:
[12:26] No, I mean, I like how agile she is, you know, and willing to, you know, just go to whomever is willing to work with her. And it sounds like Jonathan is willing to work with her in a way, but who knows? I mean, he seems pretty tight with his old chums, you know? So we'll see.

Speaker 1:
[12:45] Joe tells Rick, hey, look, I didn't vote down. I didn't vote your name. Wait, what did I write down here? Joe tells Rick, that's what I wrote my notes. Joe tells Rick, hey, look, I didn't vote down your name. What a weird way to put that.

Speaker 3:
[12:58] Yeah, he didn't vote it down though.

Speaker 1:
[13:01] He was never going to vote for him, is basically what Joe is trying to tell Rick. And Rick's like, come on, man, you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

Speaker 4:
[13:08] Joe did not like that.

Speaker 1:
[13:09] No, no.

Speaker 4:
[13:10] How dare you?

Speaker 1:
[13:11] Joe's like, if I was going to vote for you, I would have told you I was going to vote for you.

Speaker 3:
[13:14] I believe him.

Speaker 4:
[13:15] Yeah. These two just don't get along. They are truly opposites. Rick is there for the chaos. I don't think Joe knows chaos. This is not going to work. I understand Devens point of view where he's like, I just don't believe you. But then I also think Joe is being honest in that he wasn't ever going to vote for Rick. So I just don't think they will align. It seems like they have this uncomfortable moment of closure, but I don't know how real it is.

Speaker 1:
[13:44] Hug it out? Yeah, dude.

Speaker 3:
[13:48] It's a classic hug it out situation, isn't it?

Speaker 1:
[13:51] Yeah, this is more of Joe and Rick just button heads here. It's almost like Joe, why did you really feel the need to go and I guess sort of apologize?

Speaker 3:
[14:00] He's trying to play the game. He's doing his version of playing the game, but I'm with you, Nora. It's like you understand both of their perspectives. Like Joe, he probably isn't lying because he doesn't lie, but also why would Rick believe him?

Speaker 1:
[14:10] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:10] Because they've been against each other.

Speaker 1:
[14:12] Totally. Emily and Christian, they go for a walk. They laugh about people buying Rick's idol move. And Christian points out, right now Rick is a huge, huge target. And then he goes on to say, but the target finds a way to migrate. And we got to make sure it migrates the right way. I wrote that down because I really liked it. And it's like, wow, that is true a lot of the time in Survivor. Like there's a big target and you think, okay, well, that's a no-brainer. And then sure enough, it like pivots and they overthink it and it starts going another way. Unfortunately for Christian, that's what it does, but it goes to him with a little help from Jimmy Fallon, of course.

Speaker 3:
[14:44] He just wasn't aware that Jimmy Fallon was going to be in charge of the migration.

Speaker 1:
[14:48] That's right. That's right. So we jumped to Christian trying to do a little damage control with Jonathan and Stephanie, but Jonathan's like, I don't know if I can trust you anymore, man. So Christian says, hey, man, to gain my trust, I will give you my shot in the dark. Die. I've done it before.

Speaker 4:
[15:06] It's a new thing.

Speaker 1:
[15:06] I will do it again. I know it really is. And so that's going to come back and play later. The seed is planted here.

Speaker 4:
[15:14] I mean, the most memorable thing through all these interactions between Christian and Jonathan was Jonathan's hand size. When he and Christian later on do connect, it looked like Andre the Giant.

Speaker 1:
[15:26] Oh yeah. It looked like Andre the Giant holding a beer.

Speaker 4:
[15:28] Touching the hand of a child.

Speaker 1:
[15:29] It's so funny. His hand looked 10 times bigger.

Speaker 4:
[15:32] Genuinely terrifying.

Speaker 3:
[15:33] This has been a great season though, I think for the shot in the dark, because usually pretty boring, right? Like it just is out there. Sometimes we forget that it even exists and somebody will bring it up. But this year they're like using it to choose teams. And Christian has used it successfully and unsuccessfully as a way to curry trust with somebody else. So like, they're like, we don't have anything out there, but they gave us this tiny cube. What can we use this for? Finally, somebody found a use for it.

Speaker 1:
[16:00] Yeah, we've seen it a lot more than we've ever seen it. Yeah, a lot of shots of it. This hefty die.

Speaker 3:
[16:06] This hefty die.

Speaker 1:
[16:08] Jonathan takes this info to Joe, JD, and they decide, okay, we're going to take Christian's shot in the dark die and we're going to try and blindside them. Yeah. Well, also trying to draw out Rick's idol, which they think is maybe real. And then there's a very awkward conversation here between John, Jonathan, Joe and Steph. They like call Christian over. They're like on the log or something, right? They call him over. Christian is always crouching. He's always like, he's always down, he's always crouching. But then like nothing is said.

Speaker 4:
[16:39] No, I didn't like it at all.

Speaker 1:
[16:40] It's so weird. I was like, I was like, did Jonathan like think Christian like was in front of the other people, just going to like say, hey, I'll just give you the shot in the dark die now. And maybe he was waiting for it, but he didn't ask for it. Anyway, JD, I don't know if you, it was just odd.

Speaker 2:
[16:55] Yeah, it was like, come over here and face the music sort of thing. And, you know, what would you say, like not take your lashes, but, you know, they basically wanted him to shrink under their scrutiny almost.

Speaker 3:
[17:10] Yeah, come see how mad we are.

Speaker 2:
[17:11] Yeah, exactly. And then he's just like, I don't know. It's hard to tell if it was just edited to be as awkward as possible, but it was pretty goddamn awkward.

Speaker 3:
[17:22] It was.

Speaker 4:
[17:23] He's like, can I go get water, guys?

Speaker 2:
[17:25] Yeah, and Stephanie, she won't even look at him. She's like fiddling with their buff. She's like, I already got my water.

Speaker 4:
[17:32] No, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[17:33] Yeah, it's cringe. It was pretty cringe.

Speaker 1:
[17:36] Day 18 comes. That was all day 17.

Speaker 4:
[17:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:40] And now we're into the next day.

Speaker 4:
[17:41] Great.

Speaker 1:
[17:42] And I got to start by asking you guys, have you ever seen The Man in the Moon or The Rabbit Flipping Pancakes? What a fun little conversation. I just like kick this off with Ozzy and Jonathan talking about, I think, looking at the moon in the southern hemisphere. Yes. How different it looks. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[18:01] I don't, I mean, I saw somebody online has done a side by side of the moon and then they've drawn out the rabbit flipping pancakes. It's not there.

Speaker 1:
[18:10] No, no.

Speaker 4:
[18:11] I don't see it personally.

Speaker 3:
[18:11] Man in the Moon is legit.

Speaker 4:
[18:13] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[18:14] Rabbit is made up.

Speaker 4:
[18:15] I've also never heard of this.

Speaker 1:
[18:17] Rabbit flipping pancakes.

Speaker 3:
[18:18] No.

Speaker 4:
[18:20] Have you ever heard of it?

Speaker 1:
[18:21] No.

Speaker 4:
[18:21] No.

Speaker 1:
[18:22] I didn't know what you were saying. But I loved that they included it. And they're like, oh no. And even Ozzy is like, what? Rabbit.

Speaker 4:
[18:27] I thought they were maybe talking about constellations.

Speaker 1:
[18:30] Yeah. That's what you thought at first. I was like, I think they're talking about things they see in the moon.

Speaker 4:
[18:33] Yeah. Very weird, weird stuff, guys.

Speaker 1:
[18:36] But when they're talking, this is when Christian realizes maybe while he was sleeping overnight though that the perception in the game is that he's a floater in the middle. Well, hold on. Ozzy is the one playing in the middle. This is Christian again. And he's got an idol. Why aren't we targeting Ozzy? You call me a floater. This guy, look at him. He's talking about the moon. He's floating so much. With Jonathan. Yeah. And then he's got all these other connections. So Christian takes this thought, which he calls eventually Ozzy, the he who shall not be named to Cirie and Rick and tells them about, gosh, we should probably target Ozzy, right? Cut to Cirie, damn, why do people keep coming after my allies?

Speaker 4:
[19:18] My husband. Yeah, my husband.

Speaker 1:
[19:20] I got to protect all my husbands. So Cirie calls Ozzy over after Christian leaves, says, look, Christian's trying to blindside you. Don't react. Don't react.

Speaker 4:
[19:30] I love this.

Speaker 1:
[19:31] Yeah, this is awesome. She does it again with Jonathan when she calls Jonathan over and says, you know, Christian's throwing you under the bus.

Speaker 4:
[19:37] Well, she says, don't react. And then Ozzy smiles. She goes, don't smile either. Don't do that face. Be cool.

Speaker 1:
[19:43] Right. So this is the godfather here of Cirie at her hammock, at her desk, whatever, calling people in, telling them what's going on. Don't overreact. We'll take care of it. Again, she does it with Ozzy and then she does it with Jonathan. And Jonathan's like, well, I guess I will ask for the shot in the dark then.

Speaker 3:
[20:01] Yep. Can no one resist her? Can no one resist?

Speaker 1:
[20:05] The mist of Cirie.

Speaker 2:
[20:06] It's the mist.

Speaker 3:
[20:07] Like the first episode, was it Jenna or was it Chrissy?

Speaker 1:
[20:11] Jenna.

Speaker 3:
[20:11] Jenna, she's like, we gotta get Cirie out right now because if not, she's going to go far. And guess what? They didn't get her out, she's going to go far. D is like, we gotta get her out or else she's going to get us and guess who got got.

Speaker 1:
[20:20] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[20:20] It's crazy. Jenna says, Jenna says, it's going to happen.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] But they're like, it's fun. Yep. Yeah, I know. It's great to have her around.

Speaker 4:
[20:27] She makes rice so good.

Speaker 1:
[20:29] Oh, well, unless you're Emily. We'll get there.

Speaker 4:
[20:32] We'll get there.

Speaker 2:
[20:33] Yeah, that's the her powers were on display with the don't lick your teeth, Jonathan, as you pointed out, Nora. Like she knows everybody's tell, everybody's tell. So she can she just can get inside everybody's head. And that's why she's able to just, you know, be so great with people, you know, like and make them think that they're the only person on the island with her.

Speaker 4:
[20:57] She should be like an interrogator.

Speaker 1:
[21:00] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[21:00] Like put anybody in front of her, she would clock them so quick.

Speaker 1:
[21:04] True. So I did want to note here, Christian, I saw tell Mike Bloom in his postgame interview that on Survivor, he said, you're only, you're kind of only as good as your worst day. And I think this was my worst day in the 18 days I was in the game. He's talking about this, this blunder in particular, of telling Cirie, hey, I think we should target Ozzy. And he basically admitted, he's like, I sort of forgot how closer they were. And he's like, a lot going on, all this. And like, I just, I botched it in telling her because then I was sort of dead man walking.

Speaker 3:
[21:40] I think Ozzy is being a little underestimated by everybody out there because they've seen him play so many times and if they're not involved in the conversation, they don't know he's Oscar this season. They're giving him no strategy sort of credit, right? They're like, oh, we can get this guy. He does his challenges, but the game has changed. He's made legitimate connections to where somebody, if they're going at him, is actually going to get the information coming back around to him. So he has decided to play a different style of game. I think it's working.

Speaker 1:
[22:07] Yeah, it does. I again, we said this last week, but it's just going to be fascinating. If he's besides Cirie, I don't see what his case is to win the game.

Speaker 3:
[22:16] He's got to get her.

Speaker 1:
[22:17] He has to get Cirie near the end. And that's the move that she helped me get there and I learned from the best. And then I took her out. Now I deserve the million.

Speaker 4:
[22:25] It also seems like Tiffany is sort of joining their polycule a little bit. She's been hanging around with Cirie a lot. And I wonder if Tiffany could maybe be the wedge that pushes Ozzy out a little bit. If her and Cirie can connect. I don't know. It'll be interesting. Tiffany is also very sharp. So maybe if Ozzy starts to try to cook something on his own, I could see Tiffany clocking that as well.

Speaker 1:
[22:55] Challenge time. Individual immunity. Back up for grabs. Players must hold on to a handlebar attached to a heavy bucket filled with 25 percent of their pregame body weight. And Jeff teases the rice bag.

Speaker 2:
[23:09] Oh, yeah. Right.

Speaker 1:
[23:10] This guy pulls out the knife. He's throwing it.

Speaker 3:
[23:12] He's dancing with that knife.

Speaker 1:
[23:14] He's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He eventually gets to the twist of the challenge. And that is five of them need to take a side bet with Jeff and try and outlast him in the same challenge.

Speaker 4:
[23:28] He's so geeked up.

Speaker 1:
[23:29] He is pumped for this.

Speaker 4:
[23:31] Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[23:32] They negotiate them down to four people doing it. As Dalton Ross said, they could have negotiated them down to one. Like, he wants to do it so badly, you could have gotten to do anything. But they get them down to four. It's going to be Jonathan, Joe, Ozzy and Tiff. We need to outlast Jeff for the Rice. We learned this was Jimmy Fallon's idea. He has other ideas that are going to come to play in this episode. But what did we think of Jeff Probst competing in the challenge? Were you a fan or not?

Speaker 4:
[24:00] I was into it.

Speaker 1:
[24:01] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[24:01] I was into it. Mostly because I most often will say, I don't like when Jeff makes himself the focus, which he has done more and more in the last few seasons. I'm usually team less Jeff, but it was really funny to watch the mask totally slip on Jeff and him six minutes in full panic.

Speaker 1:
[24:21] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[24:22] Cannot believe how hard it is asking for what time it is. Is my bucket dropping? Wait, who just left the game? Can't do his job. So I enjoyed it. And also watching all of them trash talk him was really funny.

Speaker 1:
[24:35] I'm with you. I loved this part of the episode. It was funny and they're clowning on him. And he, you're right. He was legit struggling and trying to obviously outlast a couple of them at least. So I thought it was a fun addition here for Survivor 50.

Speaker 3:
[24:50] Yeah, I loved it. Total banger. I also laughed when he was like, how many minutes? Six minutes? Man! He instantly regretted it. And then he decided to do this. Ozzy screaming at him, you gotta dig. Jeff was making me laugh. Jeff, though, the consummate pitch man, he's like, I know I'm going down soon. I'm going Gaebler mode. And then just started plugging every company that has helped out on Survivor.

Speaker 1:
[25:12] The G&A airlines.

Speaker 3:
[25:13] The G&A airlines. Got a shout out from Jeffrey. This was good.

Speaker 1:
[25:19] JD, fan of this part?

Speaker 2:
[25:21] In the end, I was a fan. I was cringe at first. The way it unfolded was the only way it could have unfolded for it to work for me because, it's a little bit cruel because as they point out, and I'm glad they kept that in, like you've eaten, you've showered, you slept out of bed last night, all that stuff, which is all valid points, right? That's me screaming at my TV. But then he points out, I'm older, and I just want to do this, and it genuinely felt like he was having a great time, giving it a go, and he was humbled. And the cynical part of me, which is a large part of me, would go, okay, well, this is just Jeff sort of putting his growth on display anyways, right? It's like, okay, well, I'm humble now, and that's me growing, see, guys? But I thought it worked. I was laughing, and it was nice to see him be like us because I want to try that challenge, and he was an avatar for us, so it was great.

Speaker 1:
[26:28] I mean, his voice was cracking at one point. He's like, this is barbaric, he says.

Speaker 4:
[26:32] He came up with this challenge.

Speaker 1:
[26:34] Yeah, that part was great, and he's doing like, yeah, drop down and try and crank it back up. He says, this is where he says the quote of the episode, I deserve all of this, 25 years of trash talking, and we got the montage of Sassy Jeff. 25 years though, it ain't been 25 years, man. You see where these clips were pulled from?

Speaker 4:
[26:54] Yeah, they're old.

Speaker 1:
[26:54] They're old clips of Sassy Jeff talking shit.

Speaker 4:
[26:58] With the sunglasses on, he's full dirt bag.

Speaker 1:
[27:01] It's so funny. I mean, there wasn't a recent episode at all in this montage because it's only been about 15 years of trash talking.

Speaker 4:
[27:10] Well, now he's like, get up off the couch. You can do this.

Speaker 1:
[27:12] I know.

Speaker 4:
[27:13] It's a different vibe now.

Speaker 1:
[27:14] But it was hilarious, some of these.

Speaker 4:
[27:15] So funny.

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Yeah, bring him back. I know.

Speaker 4:
[27:18] You can't have Jeff do it. It would be someone new doing it.

Speaker 1:
[27:20] I guess so.

Speaker 2:
[27:21] I guess so. I mean, he did say, I'm never gonna do it again, and then walked it back immediately. He's like, until next season. But, you know. Sassy Jeff is the best.

Speaker 3:
[27:32] Do you think that Jeff's favorite deadly sin is pride? Is that what you're saying, JD? Because they were doing those seven what's in the box quite a bit.

Speaker 1:
[27:38] Oh, yeah. Well, it's impossible not to do it.

Speaker 3:
[27:40] How could you not? How could you not?

Speaker 1:
[27:42] That was cool how the box opened up, though. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[27:45] The reveal was very cool.

Speaker 3:
[27:47] Side bet.

Speaker 2:
[27:50] For one horrible moment, I thought Jimmy Fallon was gonna be in the box.

Speaker 1:
[27:53] In the box.

Speaker 3:
[27:54] Jimmy pops out.

Speaker 4:
[27:55] I would have turned it off.

Speaker 1:
[27:57] Yeah. Well, a lot of people heading into this episode when we got wind that Jimmy Fallon was gonna be involved, it's like, oh, he's gonna host the challenge while Jeff competes.

Speaker 4:
[28:07] I was afraid of that.

Speaker 1:
[28:08] Yeah. Hey, look, I felt for Jeff at one part in that, I was like, oh, I've done a few crazy pick and payoffs before on No Dunks, where I've also tried to have to host the show. Very tough, very tough to do both.

Speaker 4:
[28:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[28:22] Which he really wasn't doing much hosting when he was actually competing. But it was funny, everybody mocking him and trying to get him going, targeting him, roasting him. Rizzo and Emily dropped first though, Rick went next. And so yeah, that's then around when Jeff starts struggling and eventually drops at the seven and a half minute mark. Christian and Aubrey fall, Steph goes, Tiff goes, down to three, Ozzie, Joe and Jonathan. Jonathan drops at the 12 minute mark. And then Jungle Boy, Ozzie. It's Jungle Man, Dad!

Speaker 3:
[28:56] That was amazing.

Speaker 1:
[28:57] Ozzie is funny. Ozzie was very funny in this episode. Yeah. Ozzie drops, Joe wins his second immunity necklace of the season. And yeah, that was the challenge here. And then Jeff tells Joe, you got to send one person on a journey. And instead of any strategic thinking whatsoever on Joe's part, he just says, who wants to go? Show of hands. Okay, you guys play rock, paper, scissors.

Speaker 3:
[29:20] I'll run the tournament.

Speaker 4:
[29:21] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[29:22] Come on, man.

Speaker 4:
[29:24] Like, do you know you're still playing Survivor? Like this is the problem. When you have this like honor integrity mindset, you don't think strategy. He's like, okay, what's the most fair way to do this? That's where his brain goes.

Speaker 1:
[29:37] It's unbelievable. Ozzie was pissed.

Speaker 4:
[29:40] Oh, he's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1:
[29:41] At Joe's like weird rock, paper, scissors. He's going like, Christian won, man. What do you do?

Speaker 3:
[29:46] Worst person went. Yeah. The guy we're targeting could have gotten an advantage. Totally. They are so lucky he did it. It worked out perfectly for him, but still.

Speaker 1:
[29:53] Yeah. So silly, Joe.

Speaker 2:
[29:55] This is why we can't have Joe play Survivor anymore. Like, Jeff should have stepped in and said, no, you got to pick somebody. This is what this is part of the game. This is exactly. They set it up like this for a reason. Like they do this multiple times every season. Hey, you get to pick two people to go with you on a reward. Hey, you got to pick somebody to go on a journey. And there's got to be a reason behind it. This fucking rock, paper, scissors bullshit is silly. No, it's got to be against rules.

Speaker 1:
[30:27] Jeff should have been allowed to play Rock, Paper, Scissors. He had just done the challenge. Yeah, I love to go.

Speaker 3:
[30:32] His hands were hurting.

Speaker 1:
[30:34] His hands were hurting.

Speaker 4:
[30:36] My forearms are on fire.

Speaker 1:
[30:38] When your hands are hurting, what would be the toughest?

Speaker 4:
[30:41] What to do?

Speaker 1:
[30:42] Item to throw.

Speaker 4:
[30:43] Probably Rock?

Speaker 1:
[30:44] Probably Rock, I would think.

Speaker 3:
[30:45] Oh, I was thinking Paper. See, I was thinking your hand would be...

Speaker 1:
[30:47] It'd be all clenched up?

Speaker 2:
[30:48] Automatically clenched. So stiff.

Speaker 1:
[30:51] Oh, maybe. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:
[30:52] Yeah, but making the... This...

Speaker 3:
[30:57] Yeah, it's right in between.

Speaker 1:
[30:58] Anyway, I think Christian won with a Paper play at the end, did he not? I think he threw a Paper on Ozzy's Rock, I think. But yeah, Joe, come on, man.

Speaker 4:
[31:07] What are you doing?

Speaker 1:
[31:09] That's so good. But honestly, it ends up working out well for him.

Speaker 4:
[31:14] Yeah, but had it not...

Speaker 1:
[31:15] Oh, I know. It's so silly.

Speaker 4:
[31:17] I'm sure Stephanie was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1:
[31:19] Yeah. So back at camp, this is the rice scene. Emily freaking out over the amount of rice Cirie wants to make.

Speaker 4:
[31:28] She was really stressing.

Speaker 1:
[31:29] Now, it was a little tough to follow how much rice was being made, because there was talks of like 18 cups and 9 cups. And then Cirie's saying 5 cups of rice. I guess they were talking about the water and how big maybe one of those cups they actually had. I don't know. It was confusing.

Speaker 4:
[31:45] The numbers made no sense.

Speaker 2:
[31:46] I broke it down a little bit. I went back a couple of times.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] OK.

Speaker 2:
[31:51] So at first, Cirie says, what do you want to make? Nine cups of rice. OK, so here's what we need.

Speaker 1:
[31:56] Well, there's 10 people.

Speaker 2:
[31:57] There's 10 people. So nine cups of rice was thrown out. Emily doesn't know how to make rice, I don't think, because she's like, she's like, what? That's 18 cups of water. And then they narrowed it down to five. Anyways, so that's where the 18 came from.

Speaker 1:
[32:10] OK.

Speaker 2:
[32:11] But anyways, at the end of the day, it was just Emily being pissed off. Like she she didn't think they should make that much rice, which is like, why not?

Speaker 1:
[32:18] Oh, that's just make this is Tyson has said this before. Hasn't he?

Speaker 2:
[32:22] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:23] You just make you just make it all. Yeah, they'll probably give us more or a chance to win more.

Speaker 2:
[32:28] Are there's rewards and people are leaving? Like, yeah, we're hungry now. Like, let's eat.

Speaker 1:
[32:33] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[32:33] So you think they wanted you think they ultimately wanted nine cups of cooked rice?

Speaker 2:
[32:39] I think that was thrown out.

Speaker 1:
[32:41] I think they made a lot of rice.

Speaker 2:
[32:43] They did.

Speaker 1:
[32:43] There was a lot because Jonathan comes up at one point and says, how much can I take?

Speaker 3:
[32:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:47] They're eating a lot.

Speaker 4:
[32:48] They said one to two of those little bamboo cups.

Speaker 1:
[32:51] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:52] Yeah. So I think they put in too much water looking at the rice for me. But then maybe it makes it more filling, I guess. But I think they landed on five cups of rice and however much water went in there. Either way, Emily was pissed. But finally, it sounds like she shut up right in the nick of time because Cirie was about to lose it.

Speaker 1:
[33:13] Oh, we got a quote from Cirie. And Emily said one more thing about the rice. I was writing her name down tonight.

Speaker 4:
[33:19] Out of here.

Speaker 1:
[33:19] Oh, man, so good.

Speaker 4:
[33:21] She's like Gordon Ramsay.

Speaker 1:
[33:22] And also, it was like a great example, though, of Cirie and how talented she is when she's talking Survivor and playing Survivor and all the strategizing and getting secrets and not and being frustrated with people, but keeping it, you know, cool and close to the chest. Like this was this was Cirie's, you know, sort of this is her version of freaking out. Let me put it that way.

Speaker 3:
[33:43] This is some of the most upset she's been.

Speaker 1:
[33:46] Shut up. I'm making the rice.

Speaker 3:
[33:47] There's one thing I can do out here.

Speaker 4:
[33:49] Cook rice.

Speaker 1:
[33:50] So, you know.

Speaker 4:
[33:51] I'm not even entirely sure. Like I wish Emily would have fleshed out a little bit more of what her problem was.

Speaker 1:
[33:56] Was it her problem was we're just making we're making way too much rice because then we will have enough for later. That's how I thought.

Speaker 4:
[34:04] Or she thinks we're making too much rice. We're going to waste it. No one's going to eat this because I guarantee you.

Speaker 1:
[34:08] No, I think it's we're just we're we're using too much. I think she just thought in her head it was going to be way more rice from the bag than it probably was. That's what I think.

Speaker 4:
[34:18] I always use the finger method when you're making rice where like whatever volume of rice you put in the pot and then you fill the water and then the top of your finger to like the first crease, that's where the water should be on your finger here.

Speaker 1:
[34:31] That's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[34:32] So you worry about. Yeah, thank you. The first little knuckle. But they should be the surface.

Speaker 1:
[34:37] But they put the water in first.

Speaker 4:
[34:39] Yeah, I don't know what they were doing out there.

Speaker 2:
[34:41] Yeah, they did put the water in first.

Speaker 4:
[34:42] Yeah, it was a bit confusing.

Speaker 1:
[34:44] Do they boil the water first?

Speaker 3:
[34:46] And no, you can't do it that way.

Speaker 4:
[34:48] I don't think that would be weird, though. I mean, maybe. I don't know. Who knows what they did?

Speaker 2:
[34:52] They're not rinsing it. That's for sure.

Speaker 4:
[34:54] No, they're definitely not rinsing their ice. Do you think it looked better to eat it in separation of the grains off the leaf or in a cup with a little stick?

Speaker 1:
[35:03] I thought the cup was nice. Yeah, wouldn't mind a little cup and a cup of rice.

Speaker 3:
[35:07] I didn't like when they were eating off a bamboo shoot.

Speaker 4:
[35:09] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:10] They were sucking rice off of a celery.

Speaker 4:
[35:12] Yeah, I didn't like that either.

Speaker 1:
[35:13] Then they sometimes have a little seashell as a little spoon.

Speaker 4:
[35:17] Yeah, I think I would have gone a plate, like a leaf.

Speaker 1:
[35:19] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[35:20] A plate leaf, yeah. But you could tell it was good rice because afterwards they were immediately, it was like a hugging montage.

Speaker 4:
[35:26] Yeah, they were so happy. Come on over here, man.

Speaker 3:
[35:29] You're my best friend.

Speaker 4:
[35:30] Carbohydrates.

Speaker 1:
[35:32] Even Emily had to admit, she makes some damn good rice. We probably too many, too many hurdles. Okay. Tiff tells Devens that she's hearing his name. And if he has an idol, you should play a big guy. Of course, of course, of course. After rice, Jonathan tells everyone he's going to ask for a Christian shot in the dark die. This was a super cut of him basically talking to everybody about this. His only concern is, oh yeah, Christian's on the journey because he's really good at rock, paper, scissors and he might come back with an advantage. So thanks for that, Joe. Cut to Christian. The boat pulls up at Rachel's Season 47 floating platform and he reads the letter there. Hey, it's Jimmy Fallon. Think about the things this guy has had to read on Survivor. Hey, it's Billy Eilish. Hey, it's Jimmy Fallon. Blowing his mind, I bet.

Speaker 3:
[36:22] That was a long write up from Jimmy.

Speaker 4:
[36:24] So small.

Speaker 1:
[36:25] Jimmy Fallon's pretty long winded. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[36:28] Get it out, Jimmy.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[36:30] When he was reading it aloud, it sounded like he was a kid reading a letter that his parents wrote from Santa Claus to him. He's like, I'm Jimmy Fallon and I've been watching you. Jeff told me that you won paper rock scissors.

Speaker 2:
[36:44] I hated that part. I hated it.

Speaker 4:
[36:47] I didn't like a one bit.

Speaker 2:
[36:49] Jeff brought me up to speed on what happened at the challenge.

Speaker 4:
[36:54] Oh, I loathe Jimmy Fallon. So I was not happy with any of this.

Speaker 1:
[37:00] The advantage Christian is playing for is the Jimmy Fallon one in the urn advantage.

Speaker 4:
[37:07] Nope.

Speaker 1:
[37:08] Pretty brutal name. Do not like. It's an extra vote that in theory, Christian would have had to make right on the spot here. So hours before Tribal Council, without talking with his Alliance members or whatever, if he had gotten this puzzle put together before the rope ran out and taken his table and the puzzle into the ocean, he would have had to make an extra vote right then and there.

Speaker 4:
[37:31] Out of context. You have to do a vote totally out of context. Not really sure where the vote's going.

Speaker 1:
[37:35] Right, right. But if you lose the challenge, which of course he does, you have to take this letter back, another Jimmy Fallon letter, back to camp and read it in front of everyone.

Speaker 4:
[37:44] Great. Suddenly Cirie's challenge from last week is looking even better. Absolutely zero downside for Cirie. Christian, you're going to go home and you're going to vote for yourself.

Speaker 1:
[37:57] Okay. One was Exile Island.

Speaker 4:
[37:59] One was a journey.

Speaker 1:
[38:00] He did not need to play Rock, Paper, Scissors. Like Emily said, maybe we shouldn't be going on these journeys because the stakes are high. You never know what celebrity wrinkles come in next. But this is the problem, I think, with the Jimmy Fallon part here in this journey. It's like on one hand, the extra vote in advance. Okay, maybe there's something there. It's sort of unique. But man, being penalized for this loss was rough. Because you got to go back, tell everyone you're writing your own name down. You can't, the whole game is like, outwit. And it's like, yeah, now we're removing that from the table. This is a hell of a knock.

Speaker 4:
[38:37] And you never write your own name down.

Speaker 1:
[38:39] Well, there's that too, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[38:41] There was also a shame element to this, that Christian had to go back and read this letter in front of everybody with this terrible news. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[38:49] Well, it was just because you can't lie at all. We won't see how you get yourself out of this bind.

Speaker 4:
[38:54] No, I understand that. I just didn't like the way it felt.

Speaker 1:
[38:57] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[38:57] It felt yucky.

Speaker 3:
[38:59] Yeah, I agree. It's like a triple punishment. It's like you lose a vote, you get a vote for you and you are telling everybody, there's already one in there for me, so come after me. It was too overpowered on the negative side.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] Yeah, maybe they just thought, it's a pretty simple puzzle.

Speaker 3:
[39:14] Also true.

Speaker 1:
[39:16] He probably will put it together here or someone will put it together, but we do love this platform. Again, we saw it in Season 47 with Rachel. It's a lot better than an hourglass that we can never figure out. Is there 10 minutes left in that or is there two hours left in that hourglass? Those things.

Speaker 4:
[39:32] I love the challenge itself.

Speaker 1:
[39:33] Flying off the platform is very exciting.

Speaker 4:
[39:35] So stressful.

Speaker 1:
[39:37] Yeah, they go off.

Speaker 4:
[39:38] It's a really cool challenge.

Speaker 1:
[39:39] Yeah, and he struggled with the puzzle, JD. And then he collapsed. He collapsed to the ground.

Speaker 4:
[39:45] That's rough.

Speaker 1:
[39:46] But then he picked himself back up.

Speaker 2:
[39:48] He did. Look, I love it. As you say, the anchors are awesome. I wonder if the roughness of the sea that day was a factor because it did seem pretty rough.

Speaker 1:
[39:59] It was blustery.

Speaker 2:
[40:01] You know, and he's good at puzzles, as I remember, right?

Speaker 1:
[40:06] Yeah, when he first came on the scene, he like dominated a puzzle in the first thing. I was like, whoa, this guy's smart.

Speaker 2:
[40:11] Yeah. So, yeah. And, you know, it's different when you're under that kind of pressure and you can hear the anchors and, you know, you're on your own. And he didn't even realize how much was at stake. If he knew, that would be even worse. True. But, yeah. But the, you know, bringing the envelope back was brutal. The fact that he has so little room to maneuver. Yeah. It's like, well, what can you do? Like, you know, you can't even accidentally, somebody steal his vote. You know what I mean? Right. Because it's already cast. I do like the positive side of it. And the conundrum of, okay, if he had won, who are you, whose name is he going to write down? And then he has to go back and sort of play off that he didn't get an advantage. And this is a brand new advantage. And then also pitch whoever he put in the urn, right?

Speaker 1:
[41:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[41:01] Like, there's already a vote cast for he who shall not be named. And then what is Cirie doing that? Like, that's interesting to me what could happen. But the envelope, like, reading it in front of everybody was just bullshit at the end of the day.

Speaker 1:
[41:18] So you're fine even if they just took that part of the equation.

Speaker 2:
[41:21] Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:22] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[41:22] You got to vote for yourself. Okay. Fine. But I don't have to tell anybody that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:27] That's exactly right. Or that's part of the fun. Who you tell, who you don't.

Speaker 2:
[41:31] Right.

Speaker 1:
[41:32] Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Strange. So Christian returns to camp. He reads this letter. And they all learn, oh, my God, he's got to cast a vote against himself. Survivor history. That vote cannot be stolen. They do make note of that, too.

Speaker 2:
[41:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:45] Cut to Ozzy. Oh, Christian, that's got to sting my brother.

Speaker 4:
[41:52] He is so funny.

Speaker 1:
[41:54] Ozzy has learned that Christian is like trying to blindside him. So he's, you know, okay, hey, look, man, that's so bad.

Speaker 4:
[42:01] He loves it. He's eaten it up.

Speaker 3:
[42:02] He got to be coach for a day.

Speaker 1:
[42:04] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[42:05] Sucks for you who does it, but not for me.

Speaker 1:
[42:09] Christian realizes, well, I guess my shot in the dark die is pointless.

Speaker 4:
[42:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:14] Because I got to vote for myself. So, you know, I can't play it by any means. So why don't I just give this thing to Jonathan? Sure. Yeah. So Christian, Jonathan, shake hands and it looks hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[42:26] Giant.

Speaker 1:
[42:27] You rewound it like three times. You're like, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4:
[42:29] Because I was like, are they doing something with the camera and like the perspective to make it look so crazy? And I'm like, no, he's just an insane human being.

Speaker 1:
[42:37] Yeah. You thought there was some gandalf.

Speaker 4:
[42:39] I don't know. They can do all sorts of things.

Speaker 1:
[42:43] He's just a giant dude compared to Christian.

Speaker 4:
[42:44] It's a lot to see.

Speaker 1:
[42:46] Meanwhile, Emily starts scrambling here a little bit to try and keep her alliance safe. And so she goes to Surrey and Tiffany and says, hey, we need to take a shot at Ozzy. He's got this idol. He would not be expecting it at all. And, you know, she pitches her case to them again. Surrey takes it in. Okay. Yep. Sure. Soon as Emily, she must have been eight steps away. They're like, come on, girl.

Speaker 4:
[43:12] I know. I love this.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] Causing a lot of chaos out here.

Speaker 4:
[43:15] I know.

Speaker 1:
[43:16] I think it was Tiff.

Speaker 4:
[43:17] Tiff's like chirping with her.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] She's Emily flipping.

Speaker 4:
[43:21] I love this. I like them together.

Speaker 1:
[43:23] Yeah. And so now they're suddenly like, well, forget Christian, Surrey, Tiff, and Ozzy. They're like, well, maybe we go for Emily instead.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] She's causing chaos.

Speaker 1:
[43:31] But Rizzo's like, no, no, no. What are we doing here? Christian's a sitting duck. He just told us. We have information. One vote is in that or an already that says Christian. And he's not voting for anybody else because he's already voted for himself. And he's good at this game. And obviously all that. Let's just keep it on Christian. So that's Rizzo stating his case. And when we go to the final commercial break, it's basically somebody says, you know, it was Rick, then it was Christian, then it was Emily, but now it's sort of back to Christian. I wish they didn't say that last part because it was like, well, that's ultimately what it ends up being. It should have stopped there. It was Rick, then it was Christian, now it's Emily. And then we should have went into commercial break. But anyway, it's between those three, really between Christian sort of and Emily at this point. Any thoughts before we go to Tribal Council?

Speaker 4:
[44:19] No, I was pretty like when we were going into the tribal, I was like, I think Christian is probably really in trouble here.

Speaker 1:
[44:25] You were, you were. I'll give you that. You were just like, there's a lot of Christian in this episode.

Speaker 4:
[44:29] There is a lot of Christian.

Speaker 1:
[44:30] And then after he loses the whole Jimmy Fallon advantage, and it's like a lot of talk about his son and all that. You gotta make him proud. You're like, oh, I never want to, never want that in the edit. Just trying to make the family proud.

Speaker 4:
[44:42] It just felt like a swan song in that episode.

Speaker 3:
[44:45] So hard for us smart guys looking dumb.

Speaker 1:
[44:47] Oh yeah.

Speaker 4:
[44:47] That was a funny sentence.

Speaker 3:
[44:48] I mean, I'm with him.

Speaker 1:
[44:49] It was tough.

Speaker 3:
[44:52] But still, I do this podcast every single week.

Speaker 4:
[44:54] Sometimes two in a day.

Speaker 3:
[44:56] Right, exactly.

Speaker 4:
[44:57] How do you do it?

Speaker 3:
[44:58] Us geniuses have been looking like idiots on purpose for 20 straight years. How do we keep doing it?

Speaker 1:
[45:03] I don't know, man. I know.

Speaker 3:
[45:05] So selfless.

Speaker 1:
[45:06] Tribal Council we go, here comes Coach, looking like Don Johnson from Miami Vice.

Speaker 4:
[45:10] He does a twirl. He twirled. This guy.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] Oh my God.

Speaker 4:
[45:14] Even from the jury just sucking the attention.

Speaker 1:
[45:17] It's amazing.

Speaker 4:
[45:18] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[45:19] You have to tip your cap to it.

Speaker 4:
[45:22] It's something else.

Speaker 1:
[45:23] It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4:
[45:24] Yeah, it's something else.

Speaker 1:
[45:26] Christian then goes a little crazy, I think, here, explaining the history he'll be making, unfortunately, tonight in voting for himself. And he's like, he's pissed, but he's doing his Christian thing. So even Probst is like, I don't know what you're doing. Are you doing a bit? Are you actually really mad at me and Jimmy Fallon? I was with Jeff, I'm like, I can't tell with this guy.

Speaker 4:
[45:48] I can't either.

Speaker 1:
[45:49] I think it's both, I guess.

Speaker 3:
[45:51] The rice has fueled my rage. It's like, really? Really? But you're full, but you're angry, but you're funny. Yeah, he's mad.

Speaker 4:
[45:59] His staccato way of speaking too. It's sort of, you're kind of going along and it always feels like he's doing a bit. But I think that is just sort of like his way of speaking.

Speaker 1:
[46:09] Yeah, yeah. He's not happy about the situation.

Speaker 4:
[46:11] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[46:13] What did you think, JD? What was your read on Christian there? Was he straight up just like sort of calling out probes and Fallon or was it a bit of both?

Speaker 2:
[46:21] I think he was, especially, well, I was unsure just like everybody else. But then he said, I'm living in a farce or I'm living a farce, something like that. He used the word farce. And this guy is pissed and I'm with him because this is bullshit. This is not fair. I mean, imagine if Cirie, we already said it, but if she had to write her own name down, she's cooked. Like there is no way that she comes back to camp and says, hey, I have to vote for myself and I can't steal a vote and blah, blah, blah. Everybody would just get rid of her because she's the biggest threat in the game. Right. That would flip her game.

Speaker 1:
[47:01] The question is, who could have went on that journey, lost, come back, read the letter and survives the night?

Speaker 2:
[47:07] Great, great question.

Speaker 1:
[47:08] Who pulls it off? And I guess what we're saying, who pulls it off? Because people are like, man, it's okay. We want that person around.

Speaker 2:
[47:16] Aubrey, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[47:17] I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe nobody though, because as Rizzo is sort of saying, like, man, that is, there's no shot in the dark.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[47:23] That's removed from the table. That was a great point he made. Like there's no even one in six chance to worry about one vote. We know where it is.

Speaker 4:
[47:32] Like if Tiffany went, lost and came back, do you still think the heat around Devens would be hot enough that it wouldn't, like maybe Tiffany has not seen as much of a threat?

Speaker 1:
[47:43] I don't know. They're just trying to do kill two birds with one stone. Like get rid of the person, in this case Christian, who already has a vote against him and then get the idol from Rick.

Speaker 2:
[47:54] It also washes a little bit of the blood off everyone's hands, right? It's like you're kind of already screwed anyway. So like Devens is not going to, it's not going to affect Devens. If he makes it to the end, I think Christian still could vote for him. He's not going to hold a grudge against Devens because, you know, it was Jimmy Fallon who's getting all the, he's got all the blood on his hands. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[48:16] I did have a thought, I meant to bring it up earlier, before they were going to Tribal Council, when Christian found out, okay, I'm going to have to basically vote for myself. They haven't shown anything about this or referenced it at all. But since Aubrey played her idol, does that mean there is another active idol back in the game somewhere? Because people don't seem to be looking for it. Or they haven't-

Speaker 3:
[48:36] Nobody's been looking since they merged.

Speaker 4:
[48:37] They haven't referenced it. But I wonder if he had a thought of like, could I, what if he found an idol, essentially is what I'm saying. Would he be able, would that nullify the vote against him?

Speaker 1:
[48:47] Yeah, I think he would have been able to.

Speaker 2:
[48:49] And then any vote cast in the urn would not count. Count towards him, right? So he could have played an idol if he had one.

Speaker 4:
[48:55] I had a thought that maybe he would come back and like try to hunt or try to ask Ozzy or Rizzo if they would give their idol to him.

Speaker 1:
[49:01] But I can't.

Speaker 4:
[49:02] Oh right, they can't.

Speaker 1:
[49:03] That's the one thing we hate about those Billy Eilish idols.

Speaker 4:
[49:05] Damn, these boomerangs.

Speaker 1:
[49:07] I said to you though, during the episode when Christian obviously was in a tough spot, I was like, oh, will they try and come up with something with Rick Devon's idol?

Speaker 4:
[49:15] Right.

Speaker 1:
[49:15] Which I think they were, I'm saying they as the people they're playing, they were a little concerned about that and why they got into splitting the vote as they did. Like where is this Rick Devon's idol going to go? For himself? Is he going to play for someone else? I think that's what their thinking was. But yep, nope. Devon says he's playing his idol at Tribal Council. OK, Cirie has asked about what she's learned playing the game a few times. I liked her quote. People are unpredictable. This is the main takeaway. And then Christian gets up in the voting booth. He's got to write down his own name. Cursive writing.

Speaker 4:
[49:50] Beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[49:50] Very nice writing.

Speaker 4:
[49:51] Classy.

Speaker 1:
[49:52] This is a message for Jimmy Fallon. How dare you? This idea you had is terrible. No more ideas for you. I look forward to your apology.

Speaker 4:
[50:02] You have no good survivor ideas.

Speaker 1:
[50:06] Shut up Jeff. You love your mother-in-law, Jeff.

Speaker 4:
[50:11] You have to marry your mother-in-law. He didn't mention his mom.

Speaker 1:
[50:17] He mentioned his mom.

Speaker 3:
[50:20] Biggest Survivor fan there is.

Speaker 4:
[50:21] You love your mom, Jeff Rums! Truly a terrible idea. I'm on the record as not liking Jimmy Fallon. Those fans of Summer of Champions will remember me raging about his coverage during the Olympics. I do not enjoy his shtick and now he's ruining Survivor. So add it to the list, Jimmy.

Speaker 3:
[50:42] Apparently, Christian's going on Jimmy Fallon tonight.

Speaker 4:
[50:45] I saw someone share that.

Speaker 1:
[50:47] Okay, good for him.

Speaker 4:
[50:48] I mean, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[50:49] Totally.

Speaker 1:
[50:50] Wow, okay. I wonder if...

Speaker 2:
[50:52] Odd that he's an NBC guy, though, no?

Speaker 1:
[50:55] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[50:55] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[50:56] I thought that's why we never saw a Jimmy Fallon clip.

Speaker 2:
[50:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:59] That did cross my mind. I was like, why are they not showing Jimmy Fallon? Just a tiny clip even.

Speaker 2:
[51:04] Good call.

Speaker 1:
[51:05] In the end, Christian gets five votes. He gone. Excuse me, six votes. I mean, his own.

Speaker 3:
[51:12] His own, yes.

Speaker 1:
[51:12] It's a 6-3-2 vote, and we had three votes on Rick. That was Jonathan, Ozzie and Steph. Two votes on Ozzie. That's Emily and Rick. So 6-3-2, Christian gone, though Jonathan does make sure to give him back his Dungeons and Dragons die.

Speaker 4:
[51:29] Do you think he thought that was a nice thing to do?

Speaker 1:
[51:32] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[51:33] Is that what he thought? Because Christian's face was not giving thank you.

Speaker 1:
[51:36] Yeah. I think that's what Jonathan in his head thought. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:38] I mean, take this home.

Speaker 1:
[51:40] It's a nice keepsake. Your baby boy is going to love playing with this. He doesn't know he has a kid at that point. Right.

Speaker 4:
[51:47] What do you think Christian thought about it? Because his face was like, I can't believe you're giving me this right now.

Speaker 1:
[51:51] I mean, I don't think he thought anything of it.

Speaker 4:
[51:54] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[51:55] I don't think it's going to win or lose a vote. That's not going to decide Christian's vote for Jonathan if he's there at the end. I don't think. You gave me back my shot in the dark.

Speaker 3:
[52:04] He was upset at the time. He was upset at the time. But I think today on April 23rd, he's happy to have it back.

Speaker 1:
[52:11] Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. It'd be fun to have on a mantle, right? Totally. Yeah. It's pretty big too.

Speaker 4:
[52:18] I'll get you a shot in the dark.

Speaker 1:
[52:19] I don't want them. You get me. Do you think you can buy these?

Speaker 4:
[52:21] Of course I can.

Speaker 1:
[52:22] You should be able to customize these. That's very smart.

Speaker 4:
[52:24] I'm sure somebody on Etsy is making shots in the dark.

Speaker 1:
[52:27] Probably.

Speaker 4:
[52:28] Call at me.

Speaker 1:
[52:29] I mean, we got a sexy St. Jeff can.

Speaker 4:
[52:31] If there's an artisanal shot in the dark maker, I'll get one.

Speaker 1:
[52:34] Okay. That is the episode. Lots more still to discuss. Let's do it in Tremel. Okay, this is from Max. He wrote in, not a question, but that was one of the top three worst twists in Survivor history. Brutal. Now he did add, the winning half was actually pretty good, but what the hell were they thinking for the losing part? So we've talked about this a little bit already. I saw Mike Bloom tweet, this would have been much more entertaining if Christian wasn't forced to announce he was voting against himself. And we got to see who he told and how that information got manipulated over the course of that day. If information is currency, Christian basically was forced to empty his pockets. Well said there from Mike Bloom. That's right.

Speaker 4:
[53:20] Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1:
[53:21] We didn't really love it.

Speaker 4:
[53:22] No, I did not love it. I was really upset about it.

Speaker 1:
[53:25] And I do say this, like it's not just because Christian went, which you know, great character and all that. Like I think I would have felt this way about anyone in this situation. It's just too penalizing.

Speaker 4:
[53:34] Yeah, it's more when you feel like the person has no agency at all to do anything in the game, like really to pull any trick of any kind out of their backpack of ideas. Because it's like you are laying it all out there. I have to be totally transparent.

Speaker 1:
[53:49] Yeah. Yeah. The half the fun is the lying part and whether people believe them or not and all that. So probably nothing else to add to that one. Oh, how about this?

Speaker 3:
[53:57] Tell me if this is true. This is good for Christian's long-term survivor legacy. Not his fault he got voted out. It's Jimmy Fallon's fault.

Speaker 4:
[54:05] Do you think he'll play again?

Speaker 3:
[54:07] I think if he was asked, he would.

Speaker 1:
[54:09] I gotta say it's good. If you're not winning the game, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[54:13] And was he gonna win this one?

Speaker 1:
[54:14] Yeah. No, probably not.

Speaker 3:
[54:17] Better to go out this way. People think you still could have won.

Speaker 4:
[54:19] That's a good point.

Speaker 3:
[54:21] Cirie, she's the best player to ever to not win. And the closer she got, she got unlucky because she didn't have an advantage and everybody else did.

Speaker 4:
[54:30] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[54:30] It's funny you brought that up. I was thinking in the drive over today, I was like about Cirie potentially winning this game or not, right? I'm like, of course she wants to win. And a lot of people want her to win because she's played so many times and she is one of the best. But it is a little bit like the best player never to make an All-Star game. You know, it used to be like Mike Conley for the longest time. And it's like people remember you for that. Your name is always brought up. Cirie, always brought up. Best player on Survivor to never win. And she gets a win. Let's say she gets a win.

Speaker 4:
[55:01] You think it's over?

Speaker 1:
[55:01] Well, it's different. I don't know. It's just like, she's not at the top of that list anymore. Now people might go, well, she's one of the best winners of all time. If she goes right to that, then we'll see. I don't think she will though, in that hypothetical. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, just a thought.

Speaker 2:
[55:19] I'm sure she would enjoy a million dollars.

Speaker 1:
[55:22] I know, I know. No, I think she would rather be known as the woman as the best Survivor player ever to never win. Yeah. Boscos wrote in, Cirie was justifiably upset when Emily, of all people, was nitpicking her rice cooking. What's one thing you know that you can do without a problem and you would lose your shit at someone if they tried to tell you how to do it differently? Great question.

Speaker 4:
[55:47] So this is top of mind because I'm actively doing it right now, but it's plan a vacation. I am expert level planner. I've got the flights, the hotel. I'm mapping routes. Somebody is like, oh, you're going to this place. Have you been to this restaurant? It's already booked. The reservation three months in advance. So I hate when I'm on a trip with someone. I'm not going to name any names. But then they complain about something going on on the trip when it's really been on the itinerary for several weeks.

Speaker 1:
[56:16] It's not me.

Speaker 4:
[56:18] It's happened before. Oh, but anyway, where are we going? Croatia.

Speaker 1:
[56:23] All right. Just found out right now.

Speaker 4:
[56:26] You literally have no idea. What's it like going on a trip and having it totally planned?

Speaker 1:
[56:30] It's nice.

Speaker 4:
[56:31] It's nice, right?

Speaker 1:
[56:31] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[56:32] You're like, well, what are we doing today? And I'm like, oh, we're going to this island.

Speaker 1:
[56:35] Sounds great.

Speaker 4:
[56:36] Cool.

Speaker 1:
[56:37] Here's my credit card. It is awesome.

Speaker 3:
[56:39] It is awesome because I have a full vacation plan for you.

Speaker 1:
[56:42] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[56:43] But you got to be so quiet when you're sneaking around hotel rooms.

Speaker 4:
[56:45] Yes. Do not surprise me.

Speaker 1:
[56:47] Yeah. I'm just, yeah, exactly. I can't even live in my own house. That's the payoff. You got a book of vacation. I can't comfortably live in my own house. I have to announce when I walk into a room.

Speaker 4:
[56:58] You like clap when you're coming.

Speaker 1:
[57:00] I have to wear a bell. She makes me wear bells around my ankles at the house.

Speaker 4:
[57:04] That'd be good.

Speaker 1:
[57:05] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[57:05] And I know.

Speaker 1:
[57:07] What about you, Trey? What's one thing you know you can do without a problem and you would lose your shit if someone tried to tell you to do it differently?

Speaker 3:
[57:13] I was only thinking like survivor specific. If I were out on the island, what would I have a Cirie like moment? And for me, it would be making fire. Even though I don't consider myself an expert fire maker. If I'm out there scraping, chopping, trying to get my magnesium onto my husks, and somebody is trying to tell me when to add stuff, I know! Okay? Even if it's not going well, I would still be upset if you're trying to tell me how to do it better, even if it would work better. I'm like, let me do it this way. It might take us a little bit longer if I'm doing my way.

Speaker 1:
[57:45] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[57:45] One way to build a fire, okay, Joe?

Speaker 1:
[57:48] Which way did you go about this, JD? Survivor related or not?

Speaker 2:
[57:52] Oh, it's a it's pickleball. And it's the same thing where, you know, I don't know what I'm doing this. You know, my dad always used to say there's the right way, the wrong way and my way. And that's sort of how I do things. So, you know, when my partner is telling me, you got to go over here. I'm like, I know where to stand. I know where to, I know what I'm supposed to do. I'm just not very good at this.

Speaker 1:
[58:14] Doing it, right?

Speaker 2:
[58:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But don't tell me, right? You know, that's all. Cause I'm not good at anything. I think the most stressful thing that you could ask me to do on Survivor is to make rice.

Speaker 1:
[58:27] I mean, you can mess up food. Yeah, exactly. You could waste it.

Speaker 2:
[58:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:32] That's true. I wouldn't want to be doing it.

Speaker 2:
[58:34] I'll do anything. Like I'll go get the, anything physical. I'll go get the just, I'll be like Eva and just, I'm firewood guy. That's all I'm doing. I'm just going to get firewood or whatever.

Speaker 4:
[58:44] How do you think you would mess up rice though?

Speaker 2:
[58:47] Burn it?

Speaker 1:
[58:47] Yeah, burn it.

Speaker 2:
[58:48] Not enough water.

Speaker 1:
[58:48] They have burned it before. That's happened before.

Speaker 4:
[58:50] It's like right there though. You think they'd be watching it?

Speaker 1:
[58:53] Yeah, I'd find a way. I remember one season somebody messed up a pot.

Speaker 4:
[58:56] Yeah, before it fully burns, it can be good. Like crispy rice is scary.

Speaker 3:
[59:00] Sure, let's scoop it crispy.

Speaker 4:
[59:01] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[59:01] It's highly sought after in Survivor worlds. I mean, you could just make rice by just literally throwing water on it and letting it sit for what, 24 hours? It'll be fine.

Speaker 4:
[59:10] It'll absorb.

Speaker 1:
[59:11] Croutons writes in, What would be the best compliment you could be given by a Survivor player? Jeff's new ringtone out of the immunity challenge has got to be Ozzy saying, Oh, he's super fit. That was the one nice thing they did say about Jeff in the thing. They should have negotiated with Jeff. You got to do this challenge. You got to take your shirt off.

Speaker 4:
[59:31] Whoa, HR violation.

Speaker 1:
[59:34] He's doing the challenge.

Speaker 4:
[59:34] You want brownies out?

Speaker 1:
[59:35] I want to see it.

Speaker 4:
[59:36] You want to see Jeff's brownies?

Speaker 1:
[59:37] I think they should have.

Speaker 3:
[59:39] He's been nude on a CBS show before. Remember, like, you were here or something like that?

Speaker 1:
[59:43] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[59:44] Jackson found that clip disgusting.

Speaker 4:
[59:47] I don't like it at all.

Speaker 1:
[59:48] What are you allowing your son to look at on the internet?

Speaker 4:
[59:50] I wash my eyeballs. Searching for sexy naked Jeff Probst.

Speaker 1:
[59:54] He should be put in jail.

Speaker 4:
[59:55] Yeah, he's on our list for sure.

Speaker 1:
[59:57] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[59:57] You want to see his brownies, eh?

Speaker 1:
[59:59] But...

Speaker 3:
[59:59] Take a look.

Speaker 4:
[60:00] Yeah, it's right there on the candle. You're right, you're right.

Speaker 1:
[60:03] But what would be the best compliment you could be given by a Survivor player? You got one?

Speaker 4:
[60:07] I mean, I've spoken at length about my lack of athletic prowess. So if I was good or competitive even at a challenge and somebody remarked upon that, that would be nice. So I don't get that very often.

Speaker 1:
[60:20] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[60:20] So it would be nice to hear.

Speaker 1:
[60:21] Okay. Mmm.

Speaker 3:
[60:23] This is good rice.

Speaker 4:
[60:25] It's all about the rice.

Speaker 1:
[60:28] But the fire was really... It took 25 hours, man. Holy crap. I'm starving. The rice is good, but that took a long time. You really should have listened.

Speaker 3:
[60:39] Rice is coming. Rice is coming. But the fire is the problem.

Speaker 1:
[60:43] What about you, JD?

Speaker 2:
[60:44] On Survivor, you got me. Yeah, you got me.

Speaker 4:
[60:49] You got me.

Speaker 2:
[60:50] Nicely played.

Speaker 1:
[60:52] I thought for you, for sure, I thought like an Aussie or somebody else really good in the water would have been like, damn, you're a really good swimmer.

Speaker 2:
[61:02] Yeah, I'm at the edge now.

Speaker 1:
[61:03] You say you're a good swimmer.

Speaker 2:
[61:04] I am. I'm at the edge now, though, where I would assume it's just being patronizing.

Speaker 1:
[61:10] You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[61:11] It's like, man, well done, old guy.

Speaker 1:
[61:13] Yeah, you're a good swimmer for an old guy.

Speaker 2:
[61:15] Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I want to beat them with my brain.

Speaker 1:
[61:20] That would be nice. Yeah, somebody just getting blindsided. Go on, looking at you.

Speaker 4:
[61:24] Wow. That was you.

Speaker 1:
[61:26] Well played. It was me. Yeah. Brandon writes in, looks like our final celebrity next week. You don't know that, Brandon. But MrBeast, JD, in the promo.

Speaker 2:
[61:37] Happy to see it.

Speaker 1:
[61:38] I told you.

Speaker 2:
[61:39] Yeah, I would have roasted them for being cowards if they hadn't. But it turns out maybe they shouldn't have put them in.

Speaker 1:
[61:46] Yeah, maybe not. But Brandon asks, what's the dumbest, goofiest MrBeast twist you can come up with that might actually happen on next week's Survivor? Now, we have already wondered. I guess we learn a little bit more. This is the super beware advantage in this briefcase.

Speaker 3:
[62:03] He's got a case.

Speaker 1:
[62:04] That he's holding.

Speaker 4:
[62:05] Creeping up in his shorts, a little briefcase.

Speaker 1:
[62:09] Ever seen MrBeast's legs?

Speaker 4:
[62:11] I don't know. I don't engage with MrBeast.

Speaker 1:
[62:14] I know. I don't either. But he's on your social media.

Speaker 4:
[62:16] No, he's not.

Speaker 1:
[62:17] Oh, wow. He pops up.

Speaker 4:
[62:18] He's blocked.

Speaker 1:
[62:19] I just can't remember if we've seen his legs.

Speaker 4:
[62:21] I don't know. I would imagine not likely because he's not really like in warm climates doing things.

Speaker 1:
[62:28] Yeah, I just think he's wearing pants a lot.

Speaker 4:
[62:30] And the shot is almost always like, you know. He doesn't want you to see his knees.

Speaker 2:
[62:35] In his show.

Speaker 1:
[62:36] Yeah, I did watch a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[62:37] He gives away an island and they go to the island.

Speaker 1:
[62:41] He must be wearing shorts then.

Speaker 2:
[62:43] He must be wearing shorts. I don't recall specifically, but.

Speaker 1:
[62:45] Oh, wasn't this whole thing? This is why in a weird way he's there even. Oh, is it?

Speaker 4:
[62:49] Because he was filming the other show.

Speaker 1:
[62:51] His show, maybe on another island nearby.

Speaker 2:
[62:54] That's possible.

Speaker 4:
[62:54] What are you googling, Trey?

Speaker 3:
[62:56] I'm just looking at photos.

Speaker 4:
[62:57] What words did you put in?

Speaker 3:
[62:58] I put in MrBeast Island. And there is a photo of him on the private island with his legs out.

Speaker 2:
[63:04] Okay, his legs out.

Speaker 3:
[63:05] When it comes to an island, he'll flash the leg.

Speaker 4:
[63:08] He'll go cast out.

Speaker 1:
[63:08] And look, man, I flash legs on a podcast.

Speaker 2:
[63:11] Sorry, it's Survivor. It would be weird if he showed up in pants.

Speaker 4:
[63:15] It would be.

Speaker 3:
[63:16] He's going leg for leg with Jeff here.

Speaker 1:
[63:17] But some people are not short people.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Speaker 1:
[63:20] So they're like perma-pant people.

Speaker 4:
[63:22] Yeah. It would look funny if he showed up in like a linen suit or something.

Speaker 1:
[63:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:28] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[63:29] Well, so I was going to say, we've talked before, and JD, this is really, you hypothesize this, that maybe Mr. Beast, at this point of the game, because he's coming for the auction, which we knew, was going to sort of have, for $100,000, you could leave right now. Yeah. So we've already talked about that.

Speaker 2:
[63:47] I think that's in play, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[63:48] You think that's still in play?

Speaker 4:
[63:49] I don't think Jeff would like that.

Speaker 1:
[63:50] Yeah, I don't know now. I don't know. The super beware advantage? Oh, boy.

Speaker 4:
[63:54] Yeah. I think it's going to be like, something to like, you've said before, JD, that it's going to increase the pot. It's going to be something about that, increasing the winning amount, potential. Yeah, something along those lines. My concern is that it's going to be like, you can do this, but then Mr. Beast has to play for you as something. Like, he will be the surrogate for you. So, he's going to compete. Only because we saw Jeff compete and it went off so well, according to the people making the show, they probably thought it was great. It's like, what if Mr. Beast does it? What if he's in there competing as you and he has to do the thing? Or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[64:34] Okay. Wow.

Speaker 4:
[64:34] It's my nightmare.

Speaker 3:
[64:35] Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1:
[64:36] I mean, Cirie might be like, yeah, hell yeah, let's go. I can sit here and watch this guy do it.

Speaker 2:
[64:41] This guy's a beast.

Speaker 4:
[64:42] Do you think it's?

Speaker 3:
[64:43] Challenge Beast.

Speaker 4:
[64:43] It's the auction?

Speaker 2:
[64:45] It looked like.

Speaker 4:
[64:45] Just based on how they were sitting.

Speaker 1:
[64:47] Oh, it's 100% the auction.

Speaker 2:
[64:48] The set up was, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[64:49] People are going to be betting on this super beware advantage.

Speaker 4:
[64:53] Yeah, or is it something that's truly disgusting? Because it's the auction, like is it something horrifying?

Speaker 3:
[64:59] Like he takes a page out of Zach Brown's book. He's like, I will make you food. But the only food he makes is a Mr. Beast Lunchable. I get to eat my moldy pizza.

Speaker 1:
[65:08] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, these are all in play. These are all dumb and goofy. And potentially real.

Speaker 3:
[65:14] But he's showing the leg, okay?

Speaker 4:
[65:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:16] Yeah, yeah. Is he gonna, is Jeff running the auction and then Mr. Beast is called in at one point here? That's what it looked like.

Speaker 4:
[65:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:23] The way they're like, whoa.

Speaker 2:
[65:25] Next item, Mr. Beast with a briefcase. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[65:28] Do you think they all pass? Do you think they know who Mr. Beast is?

Speaker 1:
[65:31] You have thousands of dollars. Nah, I'm good.

Speaker 4:
[65:33] Do you think the players know who Mr. Beast is? Like, does Stephanie know who Mr. Beast is?

Speaker 1:
[65:38] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:38] Some.

Speaker 1:
[65:39] Some, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:40] Rizzo's young enough to know.

Speaker 4:
[65:41] Rizzo for sure.

Speaker 1:
[65:42] Like, does Joe know?

Speaker 4:
[65:43] Like, does Cirie know who Mr. Beast is?

Speaker 2:
[65:45] Yeah, I don't know, man.

Speaker 3:
[65:46] You think Jonathan will call him Mr. Mr. Beast?

Speaker 4:
[65:48] Mr. Mr. Oh my God, that's good.

Speaker 1:
[65:53] Mr. Mr. Beast.

Speaker 4:
[65:57] In his stupid robe.

Speaker 1:
[65:58] Any other crazy ideas, twists, that Mr. Beast is coming up with here?

Speaker 3:
[66:02] Nah, nah, I'll show his legs.

Speaker 1:
[66:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:05] I mean, if there's gonna be a reveal of a higher prize, it's gonna happen here, right? And it has to.

Speaker 3:
[66:12] I would think so, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:13] Did what is it, war, was that $2 million?

Speaker 1:
[66:16] Yep, it was.

Speaker 2:
[66:17] So it's gotta be higher, right?

Speaker 1:
[66:18] But they haven't said anything about it.

Speaker 2:
[66:20] I know, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[66:22] It's a little weird to me that they would announce it, like nine days left in the game. Yeah, it's sort of strange.

Speaker 2:
[66:29] But MrBeast has a way of throwing a wrench into everything, right? That's his brand, right? Yeah. It's like, okay, you think $1 million, how about $5 million? But it's like, but three of you have to leave, allowing people to have $5 million instead. These are the things.

Speaker 1:
[66:52] These are the things that MrBeast thinks of. Okay, we'll see. It's next week.

Speaker 2:
[66:56] We called it too. Guys, get excited. I can tell that you're not excited about MrBeast.

Speaker 1:
[66:59] I'm not excited.

Speaker 2:
[67:00] Get excited. Because I think, I'm saying it's going to be good. It's going to be good.

Speaker 4:
[67:05] He gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Speaker 2:
[67:07] Well, that's fine, but you know, that's part of it. That's part of the tension. That's part of the drama.

Speaker 4:
[67:12] It's part of it.

Speaker 2:
[67:13] It's this creepy guy's coming in. It's like the devil showing up and going, tantalizing people with, you know, crazy amounts of money or prizes or whatever.

Speaker 4:
[67:22] You think I jump when we're at home and you show up? I'm on that island. MrBeast turns a corner. I'm out. I'm later.

Speaker 1:
[67:29] He's got it. You're right. He's sort of like a mixture of Willy Wonka and the devil.

Speaker 4:
[67:34] He has 100% sinister energy.

Speaker 1:
[67:36] Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Speaker 4:
[67:38] We'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 1:
[67:39] We'll see. Yep. Episode 10. MrBeast is here. Probably the last. Oh, I was going to say, like you're excited about this twist that he's bringing. I did see a clip of Emily getting asked like on Instagram or something about the Jimmy Fallon twist and all that. Right. And she said she believes the biggest twist of the season is still coming.

Speaker 4:
[67:58] You trust her flip flopping ass?

Speaker 1:
[68:01] I do. I do. It's going to probably be this. All right. Zach writes in, will an old school player, Deven, Stephanie, Ozzie, Cirie, Aubrey or new school player, Joe Tiff, Jonathan Rizzo or Emily, win Survivor 50? You have to pick one side of the other to win this game or you go in old school or new school?

Speaker 4:
[68:20] I fear it's giving old school because even looking at these breakouts of who they have in new school, I would argue Joe and Jonathan are linking up with the old school people. And so depending on who remains at the end, I think they will have that same sort of mentality when they're making their choice.

Speaker 1:
[68:38] Okay. So you're going old school, which means Devens, Steph, Ozzie, Cirie or Aubrey.

Speaker 4:
[68:43] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[68:44] I think I'm old school as well because I could see Ozzie, Cirie or Aubrey winning. Whereas from the new school, I think I would put Rizzo probably in the lead for those five. And he's maybe the only one I can really see as a winner.

Speaker 2:
[68:57] I can see Tiff winning.

Speaker 1:
[68:59] Really? Interesting. It's a quiet edit.

Speaker 3:
[69:01] She hasn't done, she hasn't led anything yet.

Speaker 1:
[69:03] Hey, we've had, you're right.

Speaker 2:
[69:04] You're right. You're right. We've had quiet edits before. Definitely. I'm with you. It's weird to think of Devens as an old school player.

Speaker 1:
[69:11] I know.

Speaker 3:
[69:11] I agree.

Speaker 2:
[69:13] But I guess he is.

Speaker 1:
[69:14] I guess he sort of is, yeah. All right. Great questions as always. Thanks for sending them in. Keep them coming for next week. I'm sure there'll be a million questions about Mr. Beast. I cannot wait. All right. Make Your Picks. Our guy Chris who runs Make Your Picks, our No Buffs Survivor fantasy pool. Had a few notes to share. These are fun. One, Christian was the highest picked player this season.

Speaker 4:
[69:35] Really?

Speaker 1:
[69:36] He was on 69 percent of teams.

Speaker 4:
[69:39] I did not choose him.

Speaker 1:
[69:41] Only 23 percent of people correctly predicted his elimination last night. Maybe a little surprising. I had Christian on my team though.

Speaker 4:
[69:49] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[69:51] There you go. There's 75 percent right there. You didn't. Make Your Picks decided to give points to Joe, Ozzy, Tiff and Jonathan for beating Jeff Probst for the Rice. They considered it a team reward win. I think that's fair.

Speaker 4:
[70:05] Makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[70:07] Swaps are now expired so your team is locked for the season. You cannot be swapping anymore. Your team is your team and I lost another one. It's down to like two people on my team.

Speaker 3:
[70:15] I have swapped like every week basically. So I'm cheering for a lot of people.

Speaker 1:
[70:20] Did anybody vote for one Christian Hubecky last night?

Speaker 4:
[70:24] I did not.

Speaker 3:
[70:25] I did not.

Speaker 4:
[70:25] I went Devens.

Speaker 1:
[70:26] I did.

Speaker 4:
[70:27] You did?

Speaker 1:
[70:28] I had Devens and Christian. I just went with those two guys. Over the last three weeks, I got four people right because I had the Coach Chrissy combo last week. So I'm pretty happy with that, but I'm not really climbing the ranks here at all. And my team sucks like I said. I mean, I am down to, oh my god. No, okay, I got Devens. I got two. Devens who scored very little points for me and then Tiffany. That's who I have left.

Speaker 4:
[70:53] I'm still in the high 200s.

Speaker 1:
[70:55] Okay, that's good.

Speaker 4:
[70:56] But I only have Cirie, Emily and Aubrey left on my team.

Speaker 1:
[71:00] Okay, not bad though. What do you got?

Speaker 3:
[71:03] I'm like two thousands. I'm very, very low.

Speaker 1:
[71:05] I mean, I am low too.

Speaker 3:
[71:05] But I got a lot of people left. I got Cirie, Rizzo, Emily and Tiffany.

Speaker 4:
[71:09] Well, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[71:10] I guess you were doing a lot of swapping.

Speaker 3:
[71:12] I've had five people voted out already, so that's not great.

Speaker 1:
[71:16] My god, my score is 247 and the leader right now is 630.

Speaker 4:
[71:20] Damn, big gap.

Speaker 1:
[71:21] Nearly tripling me up there.

Speaker 2:
[71:23] Damn.

Speaker 1:
[71:24] JD, do you have anyone left on your team?

Speaker 2:
[71:27] I don't have any friends.

Speaker 1:
[71:28] Okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2:
[71:29] I'm not a woman. I cannot multitask.

Speaker 1:
[71:34] Nice. All right, next time on Survivor, Rick tells Emily, we're two psychopaths.

Speaker 4:
[71:41] You're not wrong.

Speaker 1:
[71:42] No, and then he says he's ready to blow up the whole tribe. So Rick Devens, he's ready. I think he's probably in a tough spot here. And he's like, let's watch the world burn, baby. I'm going to kill Mr. Beast. Watch this. Someone says they're voting Rizzo. Someone says they're voting Rick. Someone says they're voting Aubrey. Yeah. Right. So a lot of names being thrown around. And then we cut to a shot of Emily, like doing her Emily face and just says, I don't know what's going on. And then Mr. B shows up at the Survivor Auction, in shorts, with the briefcase that Jeff calls the super beware advantage.

Speaker 4:
[72:15] Right.

Speaker 1:
[72:16] What's in the?

Speaker 4:
[72:17] What's in the box?

Speaker 1:
[72:18] What's in the briefcase?

Speaker 4:
[72:19] What's in the briefcase?

Speaker 1:
[72:20] What's in the case? So what are we down to? Nine people left in this game? Is that right? Yeah. It's a two hour episode next week too.

Speaker 2:
[72:31] Oh boy.

Speaker 1:
[72:31] Oh boy. A lot of Mr. Beast. A lot of Mr. Beast.

Speaker 4:
[72:34] A lot of Mr. Beast.

Speaker 1:
[72:35] Two people probably going though, I would assume.

Speaker 4:
[72:37] Oh, you think?

Speaker 1:
[72:38] 10, 11, 12. I mean, yeah. We got to start getting rid of some people here. And then I think we got one more double boot episode. I think it's next week.

Speaker 4:
[72:45] OK.

Speaker 2:
[72:46] Do we know what the finale is going to be? There's a live reunion. We know that.

Speaker 1:
[72:50] Yeah, there is. I forgot about that.

Speaker 2:
[72:52] The fans voted for it.

Speaker 1:
[72:52] In LA.

Speaker 4:
[72:54] That's what you voted for?

Speaker 3:
[72:55] I think I did. I don't know. Jeff keeps telling me the fans voted for it. I didn't even know these were options. I thought I got every vote in, but who knows?

Speaker 4:
[73:02] The finale is Wednesday, May 20th.

Speaker 3:
[73:05] Okay, I'll be there.

Speaker 1:
[73:06] Okay, less than a month away.

Speaker 4:
[73:07] Should we fly out?

Speaker 3:
[73:08] Fly out? Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1:
[73:09] Let's hit the red carpet. Let's ask the hard-hitting questions.

Speaker 4:
[73:13] We all show up as MrBeast. We're shorts, briefcases, unsettling energy.

Speaker 3:
[73:20] No upper lip.

Speaker 1:
[73:21] No blinking at all.

Speaker 4:
[73:23] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[73:24] Okay, so we want to call you a shot. Who's going home next week? I'm going Rick Devens.

Speaker 4:
[73:28] Yeah, Devens. I had said Devens last week, but I will reiterate that it's got to be Devens. There's just too much attention around him.

Speaker 1:
[73:34] In fact, if it's a double boot, give me a Devens and a Flippin. Yep.

Speaker 2:
[73:38] Those are my two little ratings.

Speaker 1:
[73:39] Then we're down to seven and it's a little, we got the, what are they called? Cirie's Rizard of Oz.

Speaker 4:
[73:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[73:46] And you got some of the old schools. You got Tiff there still.

Speaker 4:
[73:50] Do you think Ozzy is going to be pissed that his name was up there again?

Speaker 1:
[73:55] It was Rick and Emily.

Speaker 4:
[73:56] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[73:57] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[73:57] Yeah. He probably is going to be happy about it.

Speaker 4:
[74:00] How funny was, I just remember this Rizzo doing the robot when he was voting in the voting booth.

Speaker 3:
[74:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:05] The quick like slow motion robot. Very good. Oh, and then we missed Ozzy doing his whole clowning on the robotics man. He couldn't even do a puzzle.

Speaker 4:
[74:13] Roboticist.

Speaker 3:
[74:14] That was funny. The double doctorate.

Speaker 1:
[74:17] Okay. So yeah, you said you're agreeing JD, do you have a prediction?

Speaker 2:
[74:21] Yeah, I'm with you. I kind of, I want to say a heavy hitter is going, but Cirie just seems so insulated and she is protecting Ozzie with everything. So it's hard to imagine. So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:36] And the better question for you is, cause you've been calling your shot for a while here, that Mr. Beast is going to try and entice somebody to take money to leave the game. Who is most likely to be that person? If it happens.

Speaker 2:
[74:47] That's a great question. I mean, I would say Devens or Emily, just because they're on the bottom.

Speaker 1:
[74:52] I'd say Devens immediately.

Speaker 4:
[74:54] Do you think after what happened with Christian, people are going to be really hesitant to even engage with Mr. Beast?

Speaker 1:
[75:01] Don't look him in the eyes.

Speaker 4:
[75:02] Well, I mean, like they saw how badly it was, like what Emily said, basically, I'm not trying to take a risk. So do you think they're going to have a hard time getting somebody to even do it?

Speaker 1:
[75:13] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[75:13] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[75:14] It's called the super be aware. You should be very aware.

Speaker 4:
[75:16] Be aware. Yeah, be aware. So maybe someone like Devens or like, someone who's under the pressure the most, probably Devens.

Speaker 1:
[75:23] Yeah. Like he'll do it.

Speaker 4:
[75:25] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:25] Devens is doing it.

Speaker 4:
[75:26] He is chaos agent.

Speaker 3:
[75:27] Yeah, he's got to do it. He's got to do it.

Speaker 1:
[75:29] If he doesn't spend all his money on nachos before MYP. You never know.

Speaker 2:
[75:33] He'll do it just to see the look on their face. It's great.

Speaker 1:
[75:38] Okay, that's it for No Buffs Episode 9 Recap. Thank you so much for joining us. Again, hit the like button, subscribe. Thanks everybody that's leaving very kind reviews. I think we were on, what were we on? Like a Survivor Reddit?

Speaker 4:
[75:49] Yeah, that was really nice. Randomly found that.

Speaker 1:
[75:52] Yeah. People are like trying to share the show.

Speaker 4:
[75:54] Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:
[75:55] Respect. That's what we love to see. So, appreciate it. Thank you so much. We are back, all of us, next week for Episode 10, The MrBeast Episode.

Speaker 4:
[76:04] Oh, God.

Speaker 1:
[76:05] Until then, The Tribe is Spoken.