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Speaker 1:
[00:25] Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Thursday. That kind of feels like a Friday, because we already recorded this episode 20 minutes in, and we realized that one of us wasn't recording. So having said that, welcome back to The Toast, happy Thursday. I will say, it wasn't the most amazing 20 minutes. It was really good, but it was fine.

Speaker 2:
[00:42] It was solid, and we could do it again. Here's what you missed. Claudia and I are very simpatico today. We are both wearing pink sweaters, cream pants, and the same colored shoes. Mine are from M. Jemmy. We took a walk down memory lane with some of our first sponsors here at The Toast.

Speaker 1:
[00:59] Shout out to M. Jemmy Thursday booths, you Cora, for being some of the first brands to sponsor us, and shout out to stamps.com for being one of those OG brands still with us today.

Speaker 2:
[01:07] Right, we noted that Bruno is here.

Speaker 1:
[01:10] We did. I rattled off all the TV I watched. Here, I'll just give a quick recap. I watched Your Friends and Neighbors season two, and I came to the conclusion that it should have been a limited series. It's still a fine show, but whatever. I watched my King Jamie on Jeopardy, slaying it again and embarrassing everybody in his wake. Three, I will be reading Copper's Spellburden, I haven't gotten there yet, and I do also wanna watch, since my Apple TV subscription is currently valid, thanks to Your Friends and Neighbors, the new Elle Fanning show based on the book, Margot's Got Money Troubles.

Speaker 2:
[01:37] Which, if you forgot, we did read for The Redheads. I do feel like Copper's Spellburden is not gonna happen.

Speaker 1:
[01:44] Reading it?

Speaker 2:
[01:45] Yeah, like I just feel like-

Speaker 1:
[01:46] But I have a physical copy in my nightstand, I absolutely am.

Speaker 2:
[01:48] No, I know, I just feel like the more that we talk about it, like the further away we are from you reading it.

Speaker 1:
[01:55] Jackie and I also put together that it has been, we actually had did a lot in that 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[01:59] We did a lot, it's actually hysterical now that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1:
[02:02] So we realized that yesterday was the first day of the podcast in probably 10 days that we haven't had a story about Alex Earle versus Alex Cooper. And so we drew up this little whiteboard that says one day without talking about Licks vs Lex in a formal capacity, meaning making it a story. Because sometimes, we probably talked about it yesterday just in the pre-pass five, but having a story about it. Today we do have a story about it, so we will have to erase the whiteboard, but for now, we have the whiteboard.

Speaker 2:
[02:23] We do, and we took a picture with it. We did a cheese, you wanna show everyone?

Speaker 1:
[02:27] Thumbnail.

Speaker 2:
[02:29] So we are one day clean from Licks First Lex, but I think we are gonna ruin all of it today.

Speaker 1:
[02:35] I have something new to share that I wasn't able to share in the previous show. So I learned two things. You know, I do a morning scroll on TikTok while I'm doing my makeup, and I learned two really interesting factoids that you probably don't know about that I'd like to share. The first is kind of like huge news, is that Tana Mongeau is leaving OnlyFans.

Speaker 2:
[02:51] Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:
[02:52] She says she's in her brand safe era. I think she's documented her sobriety. She's just like doing really well. And she was like, I look back on the time fondly. I'm glad that I didn't have like bad experiences like I think other people have. And it was able to like help me financially take care of my friends. And now I'm just like not in that era and I don't want to be doing it anymore. So I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2:
[03:10] That's so great. Like that, you know, but I mean, normally it's just changing and evolving. Like that sounds like nothing is forever.

Speaker 1:
[03:18] And then another thing I learned that you will find really interesting is like just random trivia fact is that the AI revolution is actually having an enormous like benefit for the island of Anguilla.

Speaker 2:
[03:29] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[03:30] Do you want to know why? It's so random.

Speaker 2:
[03:31] Cause like that's their initials AI?

Speaker 1:
[03:38] Yes. But on, okay. So like, you know, when you shop on a website, but you're in Canada, it's like sephora.ca. Theirs is like sephora.ai. And people are buying websites like chatgbt.ai, not.com. And when you buy a domain that ends in.ai, you have to pay Anguilla $140 for the registration every two years. And there's over a million websites that are currently ending in.ai, which means a million people have paid $140 every two years to the island of Anguilla. And as of last year, it was half of their entire economic GDP.

Speaker 2:
[04:09] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[04:10] Fun fact that I learned on Tik Tok.

Speaker 2:
[04:12] Maybe Reese Witherspoon should share that.

Speaker 1:
[04:14] Yeah. Maybe with the women of Anguilla and their local communities.

Speaker 2:
[04:18] Yes. So this is good news for the women of Anguilla.

Speaker 1:
[04:21] Yeah. I just thought that was interesting.

Speaker 2:
[04:23] That is very interesting.

Speaker 1:
[04:27] What else did we talk about in the PFFB? It was 20 minutes. Yeah. So obviously we're doing like an abridged.

Speaker 2:
[04:32] It wasn't like any need to know information. No. It was just like Jackson Claude, Jackson Clauding, which I guess we could like Jackson Claude again.

Speaker 1:
[04:41] Let's Jackson Claude again. We were talking about my wild side. Should we dive into that? Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[04:46] We recounted a conversation that we had yesterday. That is need to know information. It is.

Speaker 1:
[04:52] So Claudia, you have such a wild side that everyone should get to know, which was my big sister Olivia's dream for me. I think that we don't talk enough about how that dream has come true.

Speaker 2:
[05:03] It's been realized. I do feel like the world has gotten to know your wild side.

Speaker 1:
[05:09] I think they've actually gotten to know all my sides. I'm extremely dynamic.

Speaker 2:
[05:13] You are, you are, but as far as Olivia, she wanted the world to get to know your wild side. And they have, and I feel like we should close that loop for her and let her know like your dreams have been realized.

Speaker 1:
[05:23] Your dreams have come true. But it's really beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[05:28] There's more to you than your wild side.

Speaker 1:
[05:31] I mean, like I said, I'm extremely dynamic. Actually, I was talking about this yesterday because I went to Times Square, which I would normally never go to, but I was asked to be on the free press podcast hosted by Susie Weiss called Second Thought. It comes out tomorrow where we did a lot of pop culture. It's actually very similar to The Toast where we did Swirly pretty fast five, 20 minutes just talking about me, and then we did pop culture. She had just read my book, so it definitely felt like we were sort of, it was like a highlight reel of my life. We were talking about my different sides. Obviously, I was cracking jokes. I was actually on one. Everyone in the room was just, it was like silent laughter. I was really crushing it. But then I was talking a lot about my relationship with God. I'm actually extremely dynamic.

Speaker 2:
[06:08] So do you think we're going to see another side to you on the podcast, on that podcast?

Speaker 1:
[06:12] I will say you'll mostly see my wild side. Like I was most, I was mostly being like, you know, turdy leo, but there was a dash of my sensitive side. Yeah, I was talking about, you know, I actually have a very strong relationship with the Lord. And I speak to him on a daily basis. And that's just like an unexpected fact about me. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:35] And then is there any other sides of you that you want to share here, like instead of giving someone else the exclusive?

Speaker 1:
[06:41] Well, I do prefer my left side. Do you have a side?

Speaker 2:
[06:44] No. Well, the thing is I would have had a side, but like you took my side on the show, like when we first started, the side that you sat in, like would have been my preferred side. So I just like moved on from that.

Speaker 1:
[06:55] But I had a mole at the time. And so like the mole kind of trumped everything.

Speaker 2:
[06:58] Yeah. So then that sort of like cured me of sides. Cause I'm like, I sit on my bad side every day and that's my life. Like, so that's my side now.

Speaker 1:
[07:06] There are two types of people in this world. People who don't have a side that they prefer and people who prefer their left side. There is nobody on this planet who I've ever met whose side is their right side.

Speaker 2:
[07:18] Yeah. It's very true. But for me, it feels less about like whatever each side of my face looks like. And just like more about like angles and how I want to like be in the world. Like I remember like even in a classroom, say you're going into a classroom. What, and all the chairs are empty. What seat are you taking?

Speaker 1:
[07:37] How many rows are there? Four. Four by what? Six?

Speaker 2:
[07:41] Four by six.

Speaker 1:
[07:43] I'm taking row two, seat two.

Speaker 2:
[07:50] Oh, so you're like almost center. You're just like five seconds, five feet from start. I'm taking first row all the way in the corner.

Speaker 1:
[08:02] In class? Oh, I'm not.

Speaker 2:
[08:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:04] Oh, in the corner. That's unique. I like this question. We should make one of those gifs. Like which seat are you taking? You know, it's a classroom.

Speaker 2:
[08:11] I feel like it says a lot about you. Cause I feel like that makes sense with me. It's like, I want to be in the first row. Like I want to learn. I want to participate, but I don't want to be in the center of the attention. Like I want to be like, you're actually not to see me.

Speaker 1:
[08:22] We're also like currently, and when we were in school, like very short, which I do think limits the types of seats you can get.

Speaker 2:
[08:29] So like we should be first row, we're the Elk of first rowers. And that should go for concerts too.

Speaker 1:
[08:35] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[08:35] It should be categorized by height.

Speaker 1:
[08:37] Whenever I've gone to a concert with Brian Kelly, he's like very cautious and of what seats he buys because he knows how tall he is and he doesn't want to be in people's way. It's actually really nice. Even though it's like, you're bored in this way, it's like not your problem.

Speaker 2:
[08:48] Yeah, like everyone's paying.

Speaker 1:
[08:50] He will not do GA and if he does, he stands in the back. I'm like, let's go to the front. He's like, no, it's really nice.

Speaker 2:
[08:55] It's nice for him, but now for his shorty friend.

Speaker 1:
[08:58] Oh my God, I wonder what it's like to watch a concert from Brian's POV. Like it's probably so good.

Speaker 2:
[09:03] Every seat is front row.

Speaker 1:
[09:07] So true. Yeah. We have a lot of stories because yesterday was sort of a big day. We hyped up this like Hulu, like upfront event because every year it really does deliver. And I feel like last night's or yesterday's was so big. There were so much news coming out about all of our favorite shows, new shows, shows we didn't know were coming.

Speaker 2:
[09:25] Spinoffs, sequels, Love Thy Nader is finally coming back.

Speaker 1:
[09:30] Like is it? I feel like of all the announcements, like that was the worst one.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] I agree. No, it was the most disappointing one. They might as well have called it a new show and it's a season one again, because it's literally going to be like a three year jump from what we just saw. And the second half of season one that we were all excited for like Jules and-

Speaker 1:
[09:43] Tom Brady, Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 2:
[09:45] Jules and Mary Holland. Like that's all in the garbage can. Like we're not, I don't want to see that at this point. It's three years ago, like why can't they just like give it to us now?

Speaker 1:
[09:55] I don't know. But like the Hulu conglomerate that includes Disney, A, ABC, ESPN, they're kind of firing on all cylinders in the reality front. I feel like they're sort of becoming like a bigger hub than Bravo. Like they have all these shows that are all connected, Vanderpump, Villa Secret, Lives. It's actually, they very slowly like turned into a monster in the game.

Speaker 2:
[10:17] They did. And I'm actually gonna give them a lot of credit for not saying that like maybe they didn't give us season two of Loving Aider because it wasn't good.

Speaker 1:
[10:25] Well, obviously.

Speaker 2:
[10:26] No, I thought like, I just thought-

Speaker 1:
[10:27] I can't imagine that anything they would do is bad.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] No, I just thought it was like bogged down by like admin and scheduling and like people not realizing-

Speaker 3:
[10:34] But it was already filmed.

Speaker 2:
[10:35] No, I know, but like what if it was going to be like bad and maybe wouldn't have gotten them a season three? And so instead they paused, they brought in a new showrunner and now we're gonna get the season two that we deserve. Like that's how much faith I have in like the Hulu production, reality TV production department.

Speaker 1:
[10:51] Well, what's crazy about the reality TV production department at Hulu is that they have so many good big shows. I literally forget that the Kardashians are there. Like, I feel like they're one of the smaller shows.

Speaker 2:
[11:01] What's so crazy about yesterday is that all the stars were out for the Hulu Get Real house, Get Real house. And I didn't even really, I know that some Kardashians were there but like I haven't even seen them in the roundups.

Speaker 1:
[11:14] Chloe, only Chloe was there. Again, she's the only one in this family who works. Travis Barker was there. So I don't know if maybe Courtney was like backstage.

Speaker 2:
[11:22] He has a documentary coming out.

Speaker 1:
[11:24] We'll talk, I'm sure that's the first story, the big news with Dancing with the Stars, lots of ABC.

Speaker 2:
[11:29] It's so meaty.

Speaker 1:
[11:31] So meaty.

Speaker 2:
[11:33] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[11:36] So that's what you missed on PFFB.

Speaker 2:
[11:39] Yeah. As we said, nothing need to know, but you know, I think people just like the Jackson Claude of it all.

Speaker 1:
[11:45] I will say, like we were due, cause just a part of being a podcaster is not recording.

Speaker 2:
[11:50] Is losing episodes and content, yes. Or like files being corrupted, they're gone.

Speaker 1:
[11:56] It just happens. So we were due. Thank God it wasn't a whole ass episode. It was 20 minutes. We had, I was in the middle of the first ad break.

Speaker 2:
[12:04] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[12:05] TG for that. And now hopefully it won't happen for a while because we just had one.

Speaker 2:
[12:10] Yeah. We just had our hiccup.

Speaker 1:
[12:11] It's just a rite of passage on Farch.

Speaker 2:
[12:14] It is. It happens less and less as like, you know, it becomes more routine. It happened a lot in the beginning on that fucking Zoom caster.

Speaker 1:
[12:21] I wonder if it ever happens to Joe Rogan. Like they forget to press record.

Speaker 2:
[12:25] Oh, for sure. Not now, but like it's definitely happened in all of his years.

Speaker 1:
[12:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] Yeah. And it's like, it's so frustrating. Cause it's like the worst thing, that the person listening, like they don't care.

Speaker 1:
[12:37] I know. I'm like, we keep talking about it. Don't you find?

Speaker 2:
[12:40] I do find. We also had a whole conversation about how Claudia keeps saying, don't you find? It's like her new phrase.

Speaker 1:
[12:47] I did want to acknowledge, like it's happened very naturally, this new thing that I've been saying. And I think it's like really elevated and British sounding. When I'm asking Jackie for validation, which I'm now realizing I do all the time, instead of saying like, don't you agree or right? I say, don't you find?

Speaker 2:
[13:02] Right. Don't you find? And oftentimes, I don't find.

Speaker 1:
[13:05] You don't. And that's like your new phrase. I don't.

Speaker 2:
[13:08] But sometimes I do find.

Speaker 1:
[13:10] Never, like literally, you never find. You're like blind, you can't see.

Speaker 2:
[13:15] I will find today. I'm gonna go out of my way today.

Speaker 1:
[13:18] Oh, you're gonna dig deep within your heart and find the courage to find?

Speaker 2:
[13:21] Find the courage to find and find the courage to agree with your calls because I don't wanna hurt you.

Speaker 1:
[13:28] I'm glad I pointed it out because like it does hurt.

Speaker 2:
[13:34] Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1:
[13:36] It hurts.

Speaker 2:
[13:36] Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1:
[13:37] You find?

Speaker 2:
[13:38] I find. I was gonna argue your point, but I won't.

Speaker 1:
[13:42] Cause it's literally in your DNA.

Speaker 2:
[13:44] No, I was gonna say, I don't disagree with your calls. I just feel like we just refine your calls.

Speaker 1:
[13:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:51] You actually sent me the funniest video yesterday.

Speaker 1:
[13:55] Which?

Speaker 2:
[13:55] The cat stickler one about-

Speaker 1:
[13:58] Oh, like that friend who's just like intent on disagreeing with you.

Speaker 2:
[14:01] Disagreeing with you? It's so funny. It's literally me.

Speaker 1:
[14:06] Okay. And now I have to go find this video.

Speaker 2:
[14:07] It's in our DMs. You sent it to me.

Speaker 1:
[14:10] We DM so frequently. Oh, you know who I was DMing with last night? Jesse Solomon. He must've like heard our episode.

Speaker 2:
[14:17] You mean the one we titled after him? I guess he saw it.

Speaker 1:
[14:20] What's so funny is that I had made a video about Summer House like a week or two ago when he followed me. And then yesterday he followed me again. He obviously un-followed me.

Speaker 2:
[14:31] Maybe he wants to get your attention.

Speaker 1:
[14:33] Well, he got it. I was yamming him. And then I was like, you know, Jessie, I sense a real sense of sadness coming from you on Watch Happens Live.

Speaker 2:
[14:39] You said that?

Speaker 1:
[14:40] Yeah. Is that rude?

Speaker 2:
[14:41] A little, but no, no.

Speaker 1:
[14:43] Let me tell you what he said.

Speaker 2:
[14:44] What did he say?

Speaker 1:
[14:48] Just sad that it feels like the friend group is falling apart.

Speaker 2:
[14:51] Oh, well, I don't really have sympathy for that as much as like the other stuff.

Speaker 1:
[14:55] And then he said his friends who are toasters tell him that I'm a great singer and that we should do a collab.

Speaker 2:
[14:59] Would you?

Speaker 1:
[15:00] Guess I'll start being me.

Speaker 2:
[15:05] You should do like a remix on that. Like you should do a verse.

Speaker 1:
[15:09] Absolutely. Guess I'm going to fucking start, you know?

Speaker 2:
[15:12] No where it's like you come in with like a little a little ballad.

Speaker 1:
[15:16] And then he invited me to his show, his concert, which I'm obviously going to go to.

Speaker 2:
[15:21] So you have a best friend. Did Ben ever reach out?

Speaker 1:
[15:24] Oh, and then I said, he's like, I'm headed off on tour, but like come to the show in July. And I'm like, great. And in the meantime, like I do think you should get dinner with my husband. I can't explain why, but like, you just sort of need to.

Speaker 2:
[15:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:33] And he was like, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[15:34] Okay, great.

Speaker 1:
[15:36] So back to this Kat Stickler video. Isn't it sweet?

Speaker 4:
[15:40] Mm, mm, mm, sugary. Just been feeling kind of off, you know what I mean? Yeah, like a little bit of anxiety or? I wouldn't call it anxiety. It's kind of like worry and uncertainty combined with like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, you know? It sounds like, yeah, a little bit of anxiety. No, it's just not, it's not that. I'm going to do Cabo this summer.

Speaker 3:
[16:04] Oh, like summer tropical?

Speaker 4:
[16:06] Like beachy, like a beachy.

Speaker 1:
[16:08] Like that's literally fucking you bitch.

Speaker 3:
[16:10] Who the shit is me?

Speaker 2:
[16:12] I can own that. I can own it.

Speaker 1:
[16:14] Yeah, okay, good, good. That's the first step is admitting you have a problem.

Speaker 2:
[16:18] Even though like beachy is not tropical entirely.

Speaker 1:
[16:23] Not entirely, but like if you're feeling like you need to correct, like you're the fucking problem.

Speaker 2:
[16:29] I just, I operate in entireties, you know?

Speaker 1:
[16:32] Entireties?

Speaker 2:
[16:33] In entirements.

Speaker 1:
[16:36] Entireties.

Speaker 2:
[16:37] Yeah, so I feel seen by Kat Strickler.

Speaker 1:
[16:42] That's really beautiful. I heard her and John Mayer broke up.

Speaker 2:
[16:44] They did.

Speaker 1:
[16:47] That's just what I heard.

Speaker 2:
[16:48] Well, I guess we stopped seeing them together.

Speaker 1:
[16:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:51] Maybe he was one of those people. He would so be one of those people that like disagrees for disagreement sake, like loves disagreeing.

Speaker 1:
[16:58] Sounds like you two are a match made in heaven.

Speaker 2:
[17:00] No. Well, I guess you like him.

Speaker 1:
[17:02] You don't think that you guys are a match made in heaven? You don't find?

Speaker 3:
[17:06] Oh, no, I guess we aren't match made in heaven.

Speaker 1:
[17:08] Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 3:
[17:09] So I should go out and pursue him.

Speaker 1:
[17:11] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[17:12] Okay, I'll do that.

Speaker 2:
[17:16] Let's get into the stories now, shall we?

Speaker 1:
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[18:03] I went to Myrtle Beach. I had an amazing time. It was a very formative experience. And so I would say if you're looking for like an amazing formative experience. We went to the beaches, we went to the town, we hit up a couple of bars, clubs, like the local scene. It was just so awesome. There was something for everyone because some people, they like to stay home and be by the beach and pool day. We had some pool parties, but other people, like they want to get out, see the local culture, maybe like souvenir shop. And there was just really something for everyone. I was with a lot of girls, like a very big house because I'm a very social girl. I have a lot of friends and we all were able to find something that we love to do. So I would totally recommend Myrtle Beach for anyone. And I imagine now as someone with a family, it would be an amazing destination for a family vacation.

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Speaker 2:
[23:19] Thank you slash turdcast.

Speaker 1:
[23:20] You're welcome. Now is like every, now everything is new.

Speaker 2:
[23:23] Now we're caught up.

Speaker 1:
[23:24] Yeah, right.

Speaker 2:
[23:25] Also, you know what I realized? We take notes on the show as we're doing the show. You know that like we have people transcribing it, so we could have just read through our notes.

Speaker 1:
[23:35] We could have, but then that wouldn't be authentic, don't you find?

Speaker 2:
[23:38] It wouldn't have been authentic.

Speaker 1:
[23:41] And because of my wild side.

Speaker 2:
[23:42] Actually, it would have been so authentic.

Speaker 1:
[23:45] Because of my wild side, authenticity is key.

Speaker 2:
[23:48] It would have been so authentic, like a little too authentic.

Speaker 1:
[23:51] I just want to say I'm tired of being authentic.

Speaker 2:
[23:54] I know, I know, but I think ultimately it's the right move.

Speaker 1:
[23:59] 2027 is like the year I start lying.

Speaker 2:
[24:01] Yeah, this year is the year of authenticity, truth, but maybe next year we can set different intentions.

Speaker 1:
[24:06] Could be like the year of lies.

Speaker 2:
[24:08] Yeah, I wonder how that would go for us. I don't think it would go well.

Speaker 1:
[24:12] It would go well for everyone else.

Speaker 2:
[24:13] It does and then it doesn't. Like I don't, I think ultimately it would be the wrong move.

Speaker 1:
[24:17] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[24:18] To start lying. But what do I know? Our first story, major reality TV news as Hulu's Get Real house, their Get Real event was yesterday, which is pretty much their up-fronts where they tell all of the new shows that they have premiering and coming out. So here is what we're getting in no particular order.

Speaker 1:
[24:39] Okay, I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.

Speaker 2:
[24:42] First, we have a Secret Lives of Mormon Wives spin-off, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Orange County. And they've revealed their cast list with so many familiar names. I'm very, very surprised.

Speaker 1:
[24:54] I am too, especially because of course, everybody's now doing like a deep dive on all these people. Almost none of them, besides Macy's sister, are Mormon. Some of them were never Mormon. Like I don't even know how they're like a part of it.

Speaker 2:
[25:07] I don't know why they would call it Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Why not Secret Lives of Beachy Wives or something?

Speaker 1:
[25:12] Of OC Bitches.

Speaker 2:
[25:14] Right, here is who's on it. So I think the show is like really the, you know, the Sheena Shay to Brandi Glanville pipeline is Macy to her sister, McCall.

Speaker 1:
[25:23] Which is great.

Speaker 2:
[25:24] Great.

Speaker 1:
[25:25] That's a good connection.

Speaker 2:
[25:27] We thought it was gonna be Jen Affleck. That's what like the rumors had been.

Speaker 1:
[25:30] Oh yeah, what happened to her? She wasn't even there. Like Miranda, Layla, Macy and Jessie were tapped for the event to like show up and do press and then announce the new show.

Speaker 2:
[25:39] Like a little announcement on stage, like a little sketch and then they announce a new show. And here are the cast members. You're gonna recognize a lot of names. First we have Bobby Althoff.

Speaker 1:
[25:50] Oh right. She just went on Good Guys. She's that girl who interviewed, she had the podcast that showed up out of nowhere and had like Drake and Mark Cuban. And then there was like rumors that she was hooking up with Drake and then her husband and her got divorced. Like she's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[26:02] Yeah. So now she's gonna be on this show, which sounds like great and interesting casting. She also, yeah, she got divorced from her husband. She was two kids. So now we're gonna see more about her personal life. Aspen Ovard.

Speaker 1:
[26:15] Yeah. I know you don't know who that is. I barely do, but she had a big scandal on TikTok, which was like, she was like a family channel. She married someone Mormon, but I don't think she ever became Mormon, but there's a Mormon connection. And they had like, you know, family channel, whatever. And then she got divorced and everyone was like, what? It was so confusing. And now she's a part of a throuple where like, she is the third in a married couple. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[26:37] I've heard the name before. I've seen her around the internet.

Speaker 1:
[26:41] She had like a big moment on TikTok when she got divorced. People were, and she was like making all these TikToks, like alluding to what her husband did and like never told anyone, which was so fucking annoying. And now I guess she's a part of the threeple. Now I guess she's on crack.

Speaker 2:
[26:53] I wanted to just confirm something. Cause I feel like she was friends with Jacey Marie, which, and now thinking about it, like Jacey and Chelsea would be so good for the show. I bet you they got asked.

Speaker 1:
[27:04] Chelsea lives in OC.?

Speaker 2:
[27:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:08] And is she Mormon? But I even know that's not a prerequisite. Oh right, I did know that. Oh yeah, she definitely said no.

Speaker 2:
[27:14] And Chelsea too, they definitely said no, but they would have been really great for this. And she doesn't follow Aspen. So they were either nether friends or they're beefing.

Speaker 1:
[27:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:22] Then we have Avery Woods, the unwell of it all.

Speaker 1:
[27:26] She is a TikToker turned podcaster on the Unwell Network. She also has like myriads of scandals. Cause she said to Harry Jowsey her vaginas intact cause she had a couple of C-sections and she was like being really flirty with him on her podcast when she's literally married. And yeah, she's interesting to me. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[27:44] Oh, and she said something about Jesus.

Speaker 1:
[27:48] Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:
[27:49] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:50] She was making the point that like a lot of her haters, like, you know, who sent her like really mean messages have like, you know, Corinthians in their bio, which like happens a lot. But then she said something like Jesus would like.

Speaker 3:
[28:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:01] She said something really crude and offensive.

Speaker 1:
[28:04] Yeah. And what I kind of think of when I think of her is that she was really, really, really like best friends with Emily Kaiser. And last year when Emily Kaiser lost her son, like her and Avery, like we're spotted, not spotted, we're together once and then never again.

Speaker 2:
[28:23] Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that. Does Emily Kaiser live in Orange County?

Speaker 1:
[28:27] She lives, no, she lives in Phoenix. Okay, Salaam alaikum, Phoenix. Like I love Emily Kaiser, actually just give Emily Kaiser a show. But yeah, like Emily was still like completely offline and Avery, I guess had gone to visit her and Avery also went offline. Avery was like, I just like, she wasn't posting. And when Avery came back, she made a get ready with me and she was wearing a necklace that said Emily's son's name. And then she removed the video and they were never like seen together again.

Speaker 2:
[28:57] Well, that's very odd.

Speaker 1:
[28:59] Yeah, very strange.

Speaker 2:
[29:00] Very strange, okay.

Speaker 1:
[29:02] I love Emily Kaiser. I need Emily Kaiser to become a toaster. I just, I feel like she would love the show. I know that's like obnoxious to say, cause it's my show, but I just feel like she would love it.

Speaker 2:
[29:11] You're saying it objectively.

Speaker 1:
[29:13] No, like I don't say that about everyone. I don't think Stephen Colbert would love the show.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] You know, like he loves our sound.

Speaker 1:
[29:18] He does. He used our TikTok sound last night, but I do think Emily Kaiser would.

Speaker 2:
[29:21] Yeah. And I just want to say, we've named like three names so far and there's so much lore here already. Like it bodes really well. The rest of the names, there's not as much. Salome Andrea, McCall DePran, that's Macy's sister, Chandler Higginson, Ashley Peace and Maddison Fisher. So I saw photos of these girls. I don't know them, but like just from the photos, I'm like, oh, they're the elk.

Speaker 1:
[29:41] I will say the reception on TikTok has been so overwhelmingly negative.

Speaker 2:
[29:45] What?

Speaker 1:
[29:45] And it just, yeah, only because I don't think that like the TikTokers they tapped are like beloved right now. You know, it's highs and lows when you're an influencer. People love you, they hate you. Having said that, like they're also the ones that I've heard of, like are like lightning rods. Like I just said, there's so much lore. So whether people like it or not, I do think it'll be successful.

Speaker 3:
[30:03] I think it sounds so good.

Speaker 2:
[30:04] I'm sad.

Speaker 1:
[30:06] I'm glad we're finally tapping influencers for reality TV. Like there's a reason why millions of people follow them. They're interesting.

Speaker 2:
[30:12] Yeah. And reality TV stars become influencers. It's just like a very clear pipeline and a perfect match. So that's very exciting to hear about. We'll drop later this year.

Speaker 1:
[30:25] Parjee.

Speaker 2:
[30:26] Then we also got Stassi Show confirmed title and trailer for House of Stassi, which is the show about Stassi and Stassi's world. House of Stassi is such a sickening name now, of course. It seems it's very high fashion, but also it's very Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1:
[30:42] Yes, exactly. Khaleesi.

Speaker 2:
[30:43] It's sick.

Speaker 1:
[30:45] Yeah, we've known that Stassi is getting a show for like four years because they announced it four years ago and they said she would also be like a Vanderpump Villa person and she's done three seasons of Vanderpump Villa. We haven't gotten a season of House of Stassi. So finally our time has come. And I actually think all in all, Stassi's star has risen so much that the show will be so successful now. Maybe three years ago, it would have been smaller. So them having waited actually works.

Speaker 2:
[31:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:07] And I just want to say, where was my friends Taylor and Taylor in the trailer? Like there, where was Taylor and Taylor?

Speaker 2:
[31:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:13] I know Satchel Katie Maloney is in it.

Speaker 2:
[31:15] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[31:15] And Christina Kelly.

Speaker 2:
[31:16] Yeah. Katie Maloney, Christina Kelly and Stassi's sister are like big cast members.

Speaker 1:
[31:22] So are Taylor and Taylor.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] Not according to what I saw yesterday.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] I know. Like put that bitch in the trailer. I know Taylor Strecker was starting stuff. I know a little bit about the show, but like honestly not a lot. And I am going to watch it like pretty blindly. I don't know a ton, but I know that they lived in LA for a couple of months filming it and I know it was wild.

Speaker 2:
[31:38] Well, I can't wait to watch.

Speaker 1:
[31:39] Like Taylor Strecker, she just can't help herself. Like she's a perfect reality star.

Speaker 2:
[31:42] Yeah. Yeah. Satchel, I mean, if Katie Maloney brings Satchel to House of Sassy, I'll be more open.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] She's bringing her other boyfriend who's not Satchel.

Speaker 2:
[31:54] Satchel, come on.

Speaker 1:
[31:55] I know it's funny that like the characters that were plucked from Vanderbilt rules that come to House of Sassy, like you couldn't have picked two people that I like less.

Speaker 2:
[32:02] Yeah. Christina Kelly is not, I mean, she's just like always like a good friend to Satchel. So I think she's like a good supplemental character on the show. And I don't feel like that's like a controversial casting.

Speaker 1:
[32:13] No, when I think of Christina Kelly, like I definitely think of her worst moment. She did nothing on the show really besides that. So it's all I always think about when she's like not invited to Sheena's wedding and so she's like sitting scrolling, making fun of her dress. Like it was so mean. And it was just, it was like genuinely the textbook definition of mean girl. And then she was not really a main character on the show. So I don't really remember anything else. Like nothing she ever did stuck with me.

Speaker 2:
[32:38] She was actually always around, but like she just never could come back from that.

Speaker 1:
[32:42] Yeah, and she was always around.

Speaker 2:
[32:42] Which is like sad because you shouldn't be like your worst meanest moment.

Speaker 1:
[32:45] I know, I know. And so I'm sure she's grown from that. But like it's all I think about.

Speaker 2:
[32:50] Yeah, no.

Speaker 1:
[32:51] I can't move on.

Speaker 2:
[32:51] Maybe we'll get something new from House of Stassi. Like some new association of her.

Speaker 1:
[32:57] Hopefully.

Speaker 2:
[32:58] Then Khloe was the sister to go to the event because of course Kardashians are on Hulu. But there's a new show coming out, The Girls, which is all about Khloe's best friends. So we have-

Speaker 1:
[33:09] And Kim.

Speaker 2:
[33:10] And Kim. Natalie and Olivia from Wags and also Kim and Khloe's friends. We have Nicole-

Speaker 1:
[33:16] Malika and Khadijah.

Speaker 2:
[33:17] Malika and Khadijah, Nicole Williams English, who's also from Wags and she was on Sports Illustrated this year. Then there was-

Speaker 1:
[33:27] Iris Palmer.

Speaker 2:
[33:28] Iris- And she starts with Kylie.

Speaker 1:
[33:31] Yeah. I have a hot take.

Speaker 2:
[33:33] What?

Speaker 1:
[33:35] I don't think the show is going to be good. These are women who have had a decade of Kardashian exposure, and they haven't really taken off in a meaningful way. They're just like hanger honors. So I just think if the Kardashians put me on their Instagram, I would be gone. I feel like I have the goods. We know all there is to know really about Malika and Khadijah. Maybe not so much Khadijah, but I don't know. I'm not feeling inspired by this.

Speaker 2:
[34:02] I agree.

Speaker 1:
[34:02] You know what?

Speaker 2:
[34:03] I was just thinking about this. I feel like there are so many instances where a show is good. I like it. I think it's a good idea. I like the people on it. And it just never gets to be successful. I feel like there are a couple of people who have had a couple shows at this point and they've gone nowhere. And at a certain point, maybe it's not good and maybe it's not a good idea because it's not happening.

Speaker 1:
[34:24] Last year, Chloe and Scott announced a show called Beyond The Gates that they were executive producing that never came out.

Speaker 2:
[34:30] I feel like this is it.

Speaker 1:
[34:32] Right. Reiterated?

Speaker 2:
[34:34] Yeah. And they just like pivoted to being the girls. So it's about Chloe's friends. They don't all live beyond the gates, so that title doesn't work. But I feel like this is that.

Speaker 1:
[34:43] Got it.

Speaker 2:
[34:44] And it's like the show really needs Chloe and Kim for it to work.

Speaker 1:
[34:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:48] And Chloe and Kim already spread thin on their own show. They already don't have enough to share about their personal lives week to week. It's like you can feel they're really scraping.

Speaker 1:
[34:58] So I actually and the girls are dropping like flies, the sisters.

Speaker 2:
[35:01] So while I do initially get really excited by this news, because those are my girls from WAGs and I loved WAGs.

Speaker 1:
[35:08] Yeah, of course. I know you're like OJ.

Speaker 2:
[35:10] I guess I do have to express concern as well and I have to do find.

Speaker 1:
[35:15] Yeah. I actually don't know if I'll be watching this unless I get to a place where everyone's like, have you seen the girls?

Speaker 2:
[35:22] Yeah. I agree. I can't waste my time on things that only I like.

Speaker 1:
[35:26] Yeah, right.

Speaker 2:
[35:28] Then we also, hold on, there's so much more.

Speaker 1:
[35:31] Million Dollar Nannies.

Speaker 2:
[35:32] Million Dollar Nannies, which is a show about-

Speaker 1:
[35:34] Which is a reality show about a lot of young women who moved to Ibiza because there's a market there for luxury nannies and so they're just these young hot nannies who get paid a lot of money.

Speaker 2:
[35:44] Yes. Then we also have the next pro, Dancing With The Stars, The Glee Project Competition.

Speaker 1:
[35:50] Right. Searching for their next dance pro hosted by Robert Irwin.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] And I feel like we had heard whispers of that, but now it's confirmed.

Speaker 1:
[35:57] Yeah. I don't remember if they had said that Robert Irwin was going to host it, even though that's a great host. It does make it, he definitely was giving industry plant on his season.

Speaker 2:
[36:05] He's hosting. Yeah. It is Robert Irwin hosting.

Speaker 1:
[36:09] Industry plant. Of course he won. He's hosting their next big show.

Speaker 2:
[36:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:12] You know?

Speaker 2:
[36:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:14] I feel like with Carlton, he was such an underdog. And it was so genuine. People just loved him and he is a professional host. So when they needed to tap someone, it didn't feel so, this feels really planned.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] Oh wow. I didn't even think of it, but it's so true. Especially when you think about the legacy of this season of Dancing with the Stars, it's so not about Robert Irwin.

Speaker 1:
[36:36] It's about Whitney and Alex.

Speaker 2:
[36:38] Yeah. Yeah, it is. Next, Parker Posey is hosting a new competition show called The Mob, which will feature the likes of Joe Gorga and Demi.

Speaker 1:
[36:49] Wait, what?

Speaker 2:
[36:51] A new competition show called The Mob.

Speaker 1:
[36:54] Hosted by Parker Posey of Josie and the Pussycats fame.

Speaker 2:
[36:56] Yes, and White Lotus.

Speaker 1:
[36:58] It's a competition show?

Speaker 2:
[36:59] Yeah. Joe Gorga and Demi.

Speaker 1:
[37:03] And it's people in the Mob. Demi Lucy May?

Speaker 2:
[37:06] Demi Lucy May is gonna be on it.

Speaker 1:
[37:08] In the Mob with Joe Gorga.

Speaker 3:
[37:10] Are you saying English? The Mob.

Speaker 2:
[37:13] The Mob.

Speaker 1:
[37:15] By the way, of all the, I didn't see this one. I was watching all the Hulu stuff, but I got like excited and sidetracked with Stassi and Taylor, but like.

Speaker 2:
[37:21] So I guess it's gonna be like another reality TV competition, like, you know, alumni show.

Speaker 1:
[37:24] Another Traders. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:26] I guess it's like Traders and it's like a Mob.

Speaker 1:
[37:29] I thought it was like people who are in the Mob. So it was gonna be like Caroline Manzo and the Mob. Why did you say Joe Gorga first?

Speaker 2:
[37:35] It's gonna have like Mob vibes.

Speaker 1:
[37:37] Did you say Gorga or Judiche?

Speaker 2:
[37:39] I said Gorga.

Speaker 1:
[37:40] Oh yeah. Cause it was Judiche that can't film in the States.

Speaker 2:
[37:43] Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:
[37:44] Even though I'm saying Joe Gorga, even though I'm saying it, I'm seeing Joe Judiche.

Speaker 1:
[37:49] Yeah, right, right, right. But he can't, he's like restricted.

Speaker 3:
[37:52] I'm sorry, this show is far more interesting with Joe Judiche.

Speaker 1:
[37:56] What's the premise of like the competition? Are they like all in a house together?

Speaker 2:
[38:00] Let me look, but it's definitely feels like Mob.

Speaker 1:
[38:04] And then last year they had launched a bunch of shows that weren't brought up this year. So it's safe to say they're not getting another season. Like that Colton Underwood and Caitlin Bristow dating show about virgins, remember?

Speaker 2:
[38:17] Oh no, I don't remember, thankfully.

Speaker 1:
[38:19] Yeah, I don't even know if it ever came out. I'm curious if Alex Cooper's love overboard is gonna get another season.

Speaker 2:
[38:24] The, oh, she was like a big, she's a big hulu.

Speaker 1:
[38:30] Yeah, maybe she was planning on being there, but pulled out otherwise.

Speaker 2:
[38:33] Oh my God, all of these articles about describing the show, the mob are like have under behind paywalls.

Speaker 1:
[38:40] Oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 2:
[38:40] But wait, here's what I could see before the paywall. The mob follows a group of stars in an Italian villa as they compete for up to $250,000 in challenges inspired by.

Speaker 1:
[38:52] I want to say the mob, like you have to take a horse head and put it in the bed or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[38:56] Okay, that's a little crazy.

Speaker 1:
[38:58] Oh, the theme, actually, so Joe Giudice could go because it's filled in Italy.

Speaker 2:
[39:03] Yeah, exactly. So, okay, here's more.

Speaker 1:
[39:05] We're living traitors, but instead of all the challenges being Ireland themed or Scotland, excuse me. It's so offensive when I say that. I'm sorry, you guys. And now I guess it's like we're going to be smashing grapes.

Speaker 2:
[39:15] Yeah. Okay. Here. Thank you. tvinsider.com. Contestants will live in a lavish Italian villa where they will shake down, hustle and whack their way to win cash prizes.

Speaker 3:
[39:24] Oh, this is offensive.

Speaker 1:
[39:26] This is stereotyping.

Speaker 2:
[39:28] Every episode they will tackle mob inspired movie jobs to survive. Sure, movies. But every mob family needs a don, and whoever they choose will have absolute power, deciding who makes money, who stays and who ultimately gets whacked. Oh, it's traitors. In a game where power demands absolute loyalty, can the don stay in control or will the family rise up and overthrow them?

Speaker 3:
[39:49] I'm obsessed. It sounds so good. I'm fucking cracking up. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[39:53] I had no idea. I saw all the shows announced and I did not see the show.

Speaker 2:
[39:56] It's giving back in the early 2000s when all these dating shows and transformation shows, we're spinning out and then we got the swan and then we got like...

Speaker 1:
[40:04] It was the same premise but like a new outfit.

Speaker 2:
[40:07] And it's just like they went so crazy with it because it was so successful. They just wanted to make more and more. This is giving like traders becoming like we're trying to make a million traders and like we're getting a little crazy with it.

Speaker 1:
[40:17] A thousand percent.

Speaker 2:
[40:19] OK, back to the slate of programming that has been announced. We also have hold on. I just lost all my tabs.

Speaker 1:
[40:31] Oh, that's good.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] Yeah, yeah, I love losing. Well, of course, we said Love Thy Nader Season 2 in the winter. The Love Thy Nader Winter Games. OK, here we go. Then Travis Barker, why he was there. He's documentary film Louder Than Fear is premiering on Hulu.

Speaker 1:
[40:47] That's great. He has such an interesting story. Obviously, like he's a prolific drummer, but he was also in a plane crash. And he is like a lot of lore tied to like Hollywood.

Speaker 2:
[40:55] Yes. Then Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Runway Show special will air on Hulu.

Speaker 1:
[41:00] Oh, I didn't see that either. Wait, that's kind of major, like very much taking over Victoria's Secret.

Speaker 2:
[41:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:07] And the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Show like has become a real spectacle. Like they've done a good job of like tapping models and influencers, reality star celebrities. Oh, that's fun.

Speaker 2:
[41:16] Yes. Then a weekly Get Real Reality TV podcast hosted by Amanda Hirsch, not skinny but not bad.

Speaker 1:
[41:22] Oh, I didn't see that it was hosted by her.

Speaker 2:
[41:24] Yes. This is from Gibsonoma. He like sort of summed up everything.

Speaker 1:
[41:28] Thank you, Gibsonoma.

Speaker 2:
[41:28] Thank you. Reality TV recap podcast. Oh, so it's a podcast on Hulu. Great. Do they have other podcasts?

Speaker 1:
[41:38] Well, no. You know, this is the eternal thing. Like streamers starting podcasts, so they can be non-union projects, but it's just a TV show.

Speaker 2:
[41:44] But I don't think it's about the union at this point. I really don't. Look how many union projects they're doing. They're scared of the union.

Speaker 1:
[41:51] Just saying.

Speaker 2:
[41:52] I just think that's a conspiracy. I think they just want to like people like a reality TV recap podcast. They don't like a reality TV recap TV show.

Speaker 1:
[41:59] Well, no, it sounds like we were saying earlier, it might have been on the recorded episode that went up in the garbage. But that Hulu is really becoming such a hub of reality TV. It's kind of eclipsing Bravo where they have all these shows that are connected. They date from Vanderpump Villa to The Secret Lives. Like it's all the stars are connected and they need a watch to watch what happens live.

Speaker 2:
[42:20] Yeah, and Manda Hirsch is a good choice for that. Agreed. I feel like when it comes to the people who like are the reality TV recap people, it would be like her or the Viles.

Speaker 1:
[42:29] Nick Viles, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:30] I can't imagine that they have like the bandwidth to do a show like that.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] No, also they did the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives first reunion. And I don't think the fans liked him.

Speaker 2:
[42:43] But they do like other reunions on their show.

Speaker 1:
[42:45] I know, they host Temptation Island reunion. Yeah, very cool. I was just saying, I think like the Q score came back. I'm sure he was considered.

Speaker 2:
[42:52] Then a Christian college dating show called Ring by Spring Break.

Speaker 1:
[42:56] Which like is in pre-production. They were like asking for people to submit their profiles.

Speaker 2:
[43:00] Yes, and then like season 22 of Project Runway, like seriously, who gives a?

Speaker 1:
[43:04] Oh, I kind of like didn't know. I'm like, why is Heidi Klum there?

Speaker 2:
[43:07] Oh, that's funny. But anyways.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] Oh, and then, no, Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2:
[43:10] Oh, Dancing with the Stars. So two confirmed cast members, we have Maura Higgins and Sierra Miller. Confirmed.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] Okay, so let's just talk about the two. We knew Maura, she was sort of rumored. I think everyone thought it was gonna be Maura and Rob, and maybe it would have been. Has it not been for the two week long Sierra Miller renaissance?

Speaker 2:
[43:29] And maybe Rob is still on the season, but they just announced Maura confirmed, and then Maura cut to Sierra. She was remote from New York saying that she's excited and she's gonna be on. I think that's really a great casting.

Speaker 1:
[43:42] It's a great casting because one, she's having a moment, two, she's having a moment. Like it has exploded beyond the Bravo Universe, but like this really does make you so globally known, not globally, like nationally known. People who don't watch reality or don't watch, it's just, it's such a big show. And maybe there was a time, because I remember when Alex Earl was announced last year, I remember I said, and I was wrong, that like this feels so lowbrow for her. But the show is now, I would say it's the biggest reality competition series, and it's like it's such an attractive show to be on.

Speaker 2:
[44:10] She needed highbrow.

Speaker 1:
[44:12] Agreed, like I actually agree that now it seems like a natural next step for Ciara, whereas maybe last year I would have thought if Ciara was like having this moment, I would have been like, no, she should go somewhere else. But I don't consider it lowbrow anymore.

Speaker 2:
[44:24] Yeah, I agree. I think this is gonna be really fun in another dazzling season of Dancing with the Stars. I'm excited to see who they also cast.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] I feel like with all this Dancing with the Stars stuff, it's a great time to download Polymarket because I have a lot of predictions. Obviously, I think I could have predicted Ciara and Moira. I also would have predicted Rob and I have a good prediction that I'd like to share.

Speaker 2:
[44:44] A prediction for?

Speaker 1:
[44:46] Who's gonna be a contestant of Dancing with the Stars?

Speaker 2:
[44:48] Who you think?

Speaker 1:
[44:50] Everyone's saying a lot of the same people, but I have something unique. Ashton Earle.

Speaker 2:
[44:55] That's a good one. They do love siblings.

Speaker 1:
[44:57] They love siblings and they have this big TV show coming out, so they're doing a lot of promo. She's kind of an it girl at the moment. I just saw her do an ad with Chanel. I'm telling you, I feel like I have a lot of pop culture knowledge. You should put it in the market. I like to see my pop culture knowledge at Polymarket. I spend all this time thinking of things, predicting. Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right, and I feel like Polymarket is kind of where I need to be.

Speaker 2:
[45:20] We literally do this for fun on the show, guessing. I also think if you're going to be making some predictions on Polymarket, I think Miranda from Secret Lives and Mormon Wives would be a very good prediction.

Speaker 1:
[45:31] I like that. Download Polymarket, P-O-L-Y-M-A-R-K-E-T, and use Co-Toast to get $20 free upon deposit.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] Okay. Well, that's all the stuff that we can look forward to in the next year, which is ultimately good news for The Toast because we love watching great television and recapping it and this sounds like great television.

Speaker 1:
[45:48] Shout out to Hulu for doing that.

Speaker 2:
[45:51] Shout out to Hulu for doing the most, for hiring people, for thinking big and small. Don't forget about our little small friends who we could get on a show.

Speaker 1:
[46:01] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[46:02] So I think it's really great and exciting for the landscape.

Speaker 1:
[46:05] For the landscape, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[46:07] Our next story, exciting news for the landscape, Josh Allen praises his rock star wife, Hailee Steinfeld, as he opens up about balancing football and being a new dad.

Speaker 1:
[46:15] Have they ever said the name of their baby?

Speaker 2:
[46:16] Not yet. He did a press conference on Monday and answered questions about how becoming a father has changed his perspective on football in life. He said, I mean, I think it definitely changes mindset a little bit. I'm very excited. I do think this is going to be the best version of myself, you know, in all aspects of my professional career and my personal life. It's such a blessing. And I've got an absolute rock star of a wife that's doing so many things right now and allowing me to be here right now and be with my teammates, noting that it's a special time.

Speaker 1:
[46:45] I can't even report on these two anymore because I have nothing to say other than the fact that I just love them so much.

Speaker 2:
[46:49] It's and like it just could bring a tear to the eye. And that's a sensitive, turdy, the side of you that's right.

Speaker 1:
[46:54] Not my wild side. And I also want to say something crazy about your sense of sound. I want to say something crazy about Josh and Hailee. OK, I feel like they're this generation's Tom and Giselle.

Speaker 2:
[47:09] I agree like they're on their way. I agree.

Speaker 1:
[47:15] You fucking better, bitch, OK?

Speaker 2:
[47:17] But I also, additionally, additionally.

Speaker 1:
[47:20] I see how you're going to use language to disagree, go.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] Additionally, I feel like they're placing a new path.

Speaker 1:
[47:31] I additionally feel like they're blazing a new path as well. Don't you find?

Speaker 2:
[47:34] You know, a path that's never been blazed before.

Speaker 1:
[47:37] A new path.

Speaker 2:
[47:38] A new way forward. Right.

Speaker 1:
[47:40] A new way. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:43] But yes, they are in the sense that they are like the biggest celebrity.

Speaker 1:
[47:47] I guess like Tom and Gisele is more like Travis and Taylor.

Speaker 2:
[47:50] But it's not. No, like-

Speaker 1:
[47:51] I know, because they're just, they have a clip set. He's not even a football player anymore. Like he's so many other things.

Speaker 2:
[47:55] I also think that like being a part of Tom and Gisele made each of them even greater.

Speaker 1:
[48:00] Right. But also they became Tom and Gisele, whereas like Hailee and Josh are going to become Hailee and Josh.

Speaker 2:
[48:06] In the time that he was married to Gisele, like that's when he became really goaded. So when he started, like he wasn't the goat. And then same for her. But when they started, it was just another football player dating another model. They built that brick by brick.

Speaker 1:
[48:21] It's true.

Speaker 2:
[48:21] And they blazed a new way.

Speaker 1:
[48:24] I find that. Yes, I do find.

Speaker 2:
[48:27] So just mazel tov to the Allens per usual. Like we stay sat for any information and crumbs that we can receive.

Speaker 1:
[48:33] Absolutely. Tell us the name of your baby. I heard it's Harper.

Speaker 2:
[48:36] You heard it's Harper Allen. Oh, we talked about this textbooks.

Speaker 1:
[48:40] Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:42] Sounds like textbook company.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] McGraw Hill, Harper Allen. No, and I said and I said it's Harper Allen, attorney at law. Like it's such a law firm.

Speaker 2:
[48:50] Yeah. Or it's Harper Allen. Beautiful baby girl.

Speaker 1:
[48:54] Works for me, too.

Speaker 2:
[48:56] Our next story, Unwell, McGeddon, get out the whiteboard.

Speaker 1:
[49:00] What now? Oh.

Speaker 2:
[49:03] Alex Cooper and her husband skip a team meeting after behavior complaints and Bloomberg article drops. So Unwell hosted in all hands, I guess, to like, you know, voice concerns about Unwell. And the two of them were not in attendance, according to the word on the street.

Speaker 1:
[49:20] I wonder what it's like to work at a company that gets like a toxic workplace allegation. Like what happens at the actual workplace?

Speaker 2:
[49:27] Yeah. Well, I feel like this happens all the time, actually. And apparently the CMO led the meeting. He said that, you know, employee turnover there is actually lower than most startups. So I guess, yeah, if you compare employee turnover to like GM, it's very high. But if you compare it to like other startups where people like work hard, burn out, decide this isn't right for them, like things are moving a mile, a minute, it's more turnover.

Speaker 1:
[49:51] The Bloomberg article was extremely soft. Like there were, I know now for effect, there's a Vanity Fair article currently being like a real hit piece being worked on right now. And this one kind of came out preemptively. I didn't feel like there was anything in the article that crazy except that her husband yells at everyone. So the turnover rate being like the headline, I'm sorry, like that's sort of like the nature of startups, the nature of media. I don't find that to be like a huge red flag. Like the article didn't really have anything new except that her husband yells. So it's like, sure, let's hear from your husband, but he didn't go to the meeting.

Speaker 2:
[50:28] Yeah. Yeah, it was just sort of like a summation of everything they've done and not done in the years since the inception.

Speaker 1:
[50:34] Yeah, it was also a summation of like the online backlash. Like it was not real investigative journalism. It was like, I think sloppily and quickly put together. Yes, but this Vanity Fair piece that allegedly is coming was in the works long before. I think they threw this together when Alex Cooper started like trending at Bloomberg. I think that's what happened. The Vanity Fair one just like bad timing. I've heard is in the works for like weeks and months.

Speaker 2:
[51:00] Well, I guess we'll see what that one entails. No word from Alex or anything regarding.

Speaker 1:
[51:07] No, business as usual. Sarah Larson on the podcast posting clips, posting pictures of the dog, you know, deflect onto the dog.

Speaker 2:
[51:13] Deflect onto the dog. And Bruno doesn't like that. We were talking about it because a lot of people wanted his thoughts on his first flex and he just finds it all to be like animal abuse.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] It's kind of textbook tokenism, you know, like just using your dog, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[51:24] It really is.

Speaker 1:
[51:26] Not cool.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Not cool. So yeah, but I also feel like the rumors are just, the rumors and nastiness.

Speaker 1:
[51:34] The rumors and nastiness.

Speaker 2:
[51:36] And it's like, I can't keep apart what I've seen from like randoms online versus like whispers, like of just like, people really saying like the worst things about them. I feel like it's getting really bad.

Speaker 1:
[51:47] It is getting really bad, but it's all unsubstantiated. I think people take like whenever someone's, you know, in the dog house, they feel like they should make a TikTok about the interaction they had. And I think that they blow it out of proportion a lot of times. So I think in order for it to like, to be in vanity fair, like it has to be pretty vetted. And so I think that'll be like a more of a- A damning. Yeah, if there's real allegations in there, cause everybody keeps saying, and I did this and I heard him and he did this. But it's all very, he said, she said, I don't think any of it is like really verified. So I'll hold my breath until then. I do feel bad for her. Like I do.

Speaker 2:
[52:20] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:21] Like the hits start coming and they don't stop coming. Yeah. I think maybe at a point in this saga, I would have said like she can, you know, get out of this unscathed. But now like we have so many like post marks coming up, like benchmarks, whatever. We have this Vanity Fair article. We have Alex Earle's reality show. We have Sophia's book. It's like six months. Kind of like when Justin Timberlake had such a bad, like every month there was something bad coming out a documentary of him from the 90s. The pictures of him holding a hand of a woman. You know, it just the hits start coming. And I feel like that's what's going to happen to her. It's just going to be sort of nonstop over the next couple of months.

Speaker 2:
[52:54] And it's crazy that as of this moment, it's not even about Licks vs Lex anymore.

Speaker 1:
[52:58] Oh, yeah. And like, trust me, I want to hear from Alex, but it's just like not even the topic of discussion anymore.

Speaker 2:
[53:05] It's really like devolved into Unwell-Mageddon.

Speaker 1:
[53:08] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:09] Yeah. And Unwell. And then, you know, people do also say like the name Unwell, which it's like-

Speaker 1:
[53:14] Well, it is Sophia's word.

Speaker 2:
[53:15] Yeah, which is really crazy. That's really crazy. And if that's true, like, why don't people make more of that?

Speaker 1:
[53:24] Well, I would love to hear from a lawyer, actually, like what Sophia's entitled to. Because Alex selling Sophia's work to Spotify, but I guess Sophia relinquished ownership of that work when she left Barstool.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] I don't think they had a contract in place. So it was anyone's further taking, and whoever gets on the microphone and gets the- Right. There was not a contract, which is-

Speaker 1:
[53:49] It's just crazy. And then, yes, starting merch, products, beverages, tours, networks, with the show. Obviously, that's not like a word. We invented the word pargy. Unwell is a preexisting word in the dictionary, but under the terms and the context was Sophia. Yeah, what are you legally entitled to? I don't think anything. I just think it's this really gray area of unethical.

Speaker 2:
[54:13] No, and it's just like listeners would know that Sophia surfaced the word unwell in one of her stories or whatever. And then Alex went on to co-opt it and make it-

Speaker 1:
[54:22] Right, her thing.

Speaker 2:
[54:23] It's really crazy. But it's like, I can't help but think like if Sophia was the one who went to Dave and took the podcast, there was no way, there's no way Alex would have taken that sitting down. I feel like she would have had some sort of recourse. I guess like she would have fought and Sophia didn't fight. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[54:37] And I think when we criticize, like not we, like when people criticize Alex Cooper for that, like if Sophia had gone to Dave and taken the podcast, like I don't think Call Her Daddy would be now what it is. Like she, and she had said this once that I thought it was like quite self-aware of her. She's like, I'm not a journalist. I'm a marketer. And it's, yeah, because everybody comes at her like, you don't ask any follow-up questions. Like Call Her Daddy is not some like investigative platform. It's not going to get you like the best, most thorough interview. It's a press stop and it's a lot of like fluff and yeah, it's all marketing. And so that's her real skill and like brilliance is what she turned it into. And I don't think if Sophia had taken it, it would be what it is now.

Speaker 2:
[55:15] Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1:
[55:17] I'm glad.

Speaker 2:
[55:19] Are you ready for our next story?

Speaker 1:
[55:22] If it's our next story that's brought to you by...

Speaker 2:
[55:25] I just want to say, I feel like we really didn't talk about Licks vs. Lex and we can put the one back up on the board.

Speaker 1:
[55:31] We didn't talk about Licks vs.

Speaker 2:
[55:32] Lex. So we can put the, cause doesn't the board say...

Speaker 1:
[55:36] Licks Lex.

Speaker 2:
[55:37] Licks Lex, not unwell.

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Speaker 2:
[59:44] Thank you, turd back.

Speaker 1:
[59:46] You're welcome.

Speaker 2:
[59:47] Our fourth story, Nikki Glaser shared a funny anecdote about sending flowers to everyone she made fun of at the Golden Globes. And the only person who responded with a gift of their own was Leonardo DiCaprio, who sent her three baskets of pasta.

Speaker 1:
[60:03] So a class act. I love, first of all, little behind the scenes, like details and logistics like this. This is what I live for.

Speaker 2:
[60:10] Yeah, so she is promoting her new comedy special called Good Girl, which also like, it seems as though she's about to be on Get Real with me with Alex Earl.

Speaker 1:
[60:18] Oh my, the most embarrassing thing is happening to me.

Speaker 2:
[60:20] What?

Speaker 1:
[60:21] So Alex Earl posted a video like teasing her new guest and she was talking to camera. She's like, my next guest is a comedian, a Taylor Swift super fan and like internet, like commentator sort of, and all the comments Jackie, everyone was saying me. And it's like, first of all, kill me. I'm just, I'm humiliated. It's not me.

Speaker 2:
[60:39] Wait, why are you humiliated? Because it's not you.

Speaker 1:
[60:41] Because it's not me.

Speaker 2:
[60:43] Okay. So is that the embarrassing thing that's happening to you? I thought you might've commented on it, something. Do you comment?

Speaker 1:
[60:52] No.

Speaker 2:
[60:52] You should comment something and act like it's you. Be like, can't wait to chat.

Speaker 1:
[60:57] Oh, I should be like, guys, remember when I took that trip to LA last month? Meanwhile, I've like literally never been to LA. You guys remember when I took that trip to LA last month?

Speaker 2:
[61:04] You could just like, or just like comment some emojis, like the raising hand or something, just like make it about you. Get some eyes on you.

Speaker 1:
[61:11] Wasn't Nikki Glaser just on Call Her Daddy?

Speaker 2:
[61:13] Yes, so I think that's like really crazy. And then she was also on one of the Jimmy's talking about Licks vs Lex.

Speaker 1:
[61:18] Licks Lex.

Speaker 2:
[61:18] And I think she, considering she's about to be on Get Real and was just with both girls, I think she's actually handled it really deftly.

Speaker 1:
[61:24] Yeah, I'm surprised Licks would want to guess that was just on Lex.

Speaker 2:
[61:27] Yeah, I actually am very surprised and that actually makes no sense.

Speaker 1:
[61:32] It makes no sense, she must not have known. I would have seen her canning the episode.

Speaker 2:
[61:36] Yeah, but she's going full steam with the promo and the good girl on the mirror and the guesses. Everybody does like guesses for their podcast.

Speaker 1:
[61:43] And Jackie, like the guessing, like good girl, good guys.

Speaker 2:
[61:46] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:47] It's me. It's literally me.

Speaker 2:
[61:49] You should comment, be like, is it me? You could say, is it me? Because then you're not being a liar acting like it's you.

Speaker 1:
[61:56] OK, hold on. That's a good comment.

Speaker 2:
[61:58] Everyone go like Claudia's comment and hype her up.

Speaker 1:
[62:00] Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK, so get real.

Speaker 2:
[62:02] Tell her that she's beautiful with me and tell her that you've seen her wild side.

Speaker 1:
[62:21] And what am I saying? Is it me? Literally the top comment, Claudia say, is it me?

Speaker 2:
[62:25] Two question marks. I feel like that really connotes the level of questioning we're going for.

Speaker 1:
[62:34] If it's Trudy, I will die. Please let it be Claudia. Tell me it's Trudy. Claudia. Claudia. Claudia. If it's Claudia, I swear to God. Jackie, everybody thinks that it's me.

Speaker 2:
[62:45] That's so great. I'm sure Alex is seeing that and is like, maybe that's giving her the idea just like Craig now has the idea to date Kelsey Ballerini.

Speaker 1:
[62:52] Please be Trudy Lou Freibush. Trudy. Oh my God. Claudia. Claudia. I'm so high. Please be Claudia. Are you a girly swirly?

Speaker 2:
[62:59] Are there any comments guessing Nikki?

Speaker 1:
[63:03] Yeah, like three.

Speaker 2:
[63:05] But more guessing you.

Speaker 1:
[63:06] More. Oh, way more.

Speaker 2:
[63:08] Is it you? Did you go and get real?

Speaker 1:
[63:13] Tune in to find out you guys.

Speaker 2:
[63:15] Wow. Well, anyways, I think it's Nikki.

Speaker 1:
[63:19] It is.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] It is. It's not me. And she shared a story about Leonardo DiCaprio, how he was the only one to respond to her Golden Globes.

Speaker 1:
[63:29] That's really cute.

Speaker 2:
[63:31] He sent her three boxes of pasta because of the joke that she shared about how nobody knows anything about him. But actually in 1999, he did an interview with, in 1991, he did an interview with Tiger Boot sharing that his favorite food was pasta, pasta and more pasta.

Speaker 1:
[63:46] That's really fucking funny.

Speaker 2:
[63:48] So he said the three boxes of pasta, and she said it was pasta, pasta and pasta. She said, it was so funny and so good. And part of me was like, does Lea want to smash? She's seriously so funny.

Speaker 1:
[64:04] And she slays this hosting award show that like jobs so well. And the fact that everybody likes her, like Leonardo's joking back with her, like she's just really assuring that she's going to have this job for the next at least five years.

Speaker 3:
[64:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[64:15] But then she said the type of girl he goes for, he wouldn't send pasta to.

Speaker 3:
[64:20] So fucking true.

Speaker 1:
[64:22] She's so fucking funny.

Speaker 2:
[64:24] Then she said, it was dry pasta. I think the company was Mena Pasta.

Speaker 3:
[64:28] SpaghettiOs, maybe. I would have been more his type.

Speaker 1:
[64:31] Cracking up.

Speaker 2:
[64:32] A crib full of Dunkaroos and Gogurt.

Speaker 3:
[64:34] I would have been like, oh, he's into me.

Speaker 1:
[64:37] She seriously can't help herself.

Speaker 2:
[64:38] She's so funny.

Speaker 1:
[64:40] She's so funny. Give her all the hosting jobs.

Speaker 3:
[64:43] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[64:44] Just hysterical stuff.

Speaker 3:
[64:46] Hysterical stuff.

Speaker 2:
[64:48] Oh, and on Licks First Lacks, she did say that she is Team Alex.

Speaker 3:
[64:57] That's funny.

Speaker 1:
[64:57] I didn't see her say that. That's really funny.

Speaker 3:
[64:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[65:00] She did say, and she made it known that she's Team Alex.

Speaker 1:
[65:03] I just want to say, I am also Team Alex.

Speaker 3:
[65:06] Yeah. I think that's the right team to be on.

Speaker 1:
[65:10] I thought about it a lot.

Speaker 2:
[65:12] It feels right. You know, you have to go with your gut and your conscience too. You have to sleep at night.

Speaker 1:
[65:15] Of course.

Speaker 2:
[65:17] Our fifth and final story is finally making The Fast Five because there was no other fifth and final story.

Speaker 1:
[65:23] Kylie wants to sell Cody to Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 2:
[65:26] No, no. I moved on from that. It's that Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are getting handsy in a PDA packed beach date. So Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are dating out and about showing us their relationship. They went to Nobu. They couldn't keep their hands off each other because they took a dip in the ocean in Malibu. Plenty of photos of them, which in another world, Kim and a man on the beach touchy feely, we'd be gagged.

Speaker 1:
[65:53] If I had a heart rate monitor on, the person monitoring it would think I was dead. That's how little I care.

Speaker 2:
[65:59] But that's how little news there has to be for us to give these to the time of day.

Speaker 1:
[66:04] And it's like, you know what? Maybe you should get your ass off the beach and go to the Get Real with Hulu event because that's where things are actually happening and that's where your sister is putting in the work.

Speaker 2:
[66:13] Like maybe show up to the Get Real Hulu event with Lewis Hamilton and I'll care.

Speaker 1:
[66:17] And then I'll care.

Speaker 2:
[66:18] Maybe, still a maybe.

Speaker 1:
[66:20] No, I would care.

Speaker 2:
[66:21] But they are like frolicking on the beach laughing. They're like literally in a full blown like they're in love, which is all I've ever wanted for Kim like since Kanye and Pete.

Speaker 1:
[66:34] Going to the beach on a date is like means that you're at a really like.

Speaker 2:
[66:41] Intimate place.

Speaker 1:
[66:42] Yeah, because beach is where you're totally stripped down. Obviously, like your body, but also makeup and you know, you don't let someone see that until you're already married.

Speaker 2:
[66:50] And like when you get rocked by a wave, like that's that's what your lowest, most vulnerable point.

Speaker 1:
[66:57] That is the truest thing you've ever said. Like there is nothing more ugly than getting hit by a wave. Like you just lose all sense of confidence and like control. And you just look like a slob, like an octopus.

Speaker 2:
[67:13] Like a wet rag. And they were doing-

Speaker 1:
[67:16] Actually the funniest thing you've ever said. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:
[67:18] They were also doing surfing. So they were like encountering and embracing big waves.

Speaker 1:
[67:24] And have you ever seen somebody surf like unsuccessfully? It's extremely unattractive.

Speaker 2:
[67:28] Yeah, it's very humbling. So this speaks well of the level of comfortability in their relationship. Like she can be herself. And they're like hugging and kissing in the waves. Like that's real love. 100%. That's real love.

Speaker 1:
[67:44] Yeah, and also at least with me when I'm in the ocean, like my nose runs a lot. It's just like, it's really unattractive.

Speaker 2:
[67:48] And I always have to hold my nose when I go under, which is super cool.

Speaker 1:
[67:52] Like I said, unattractive.

Speaker 2:
[67:53] Which is a super cool thing to do.

Speaker 1:
[67:55] Now, not to keep bringing this up, but like we did record basically two episodes. I have to pee.

Speaker 2:
[68:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[68:00] So bad we've been sitting here for three hours. So I am going to wrap up.

Speaker 2:
[68:04] Please do.

Speaker 1:
[68:06] Oh, I have a new wrap up. I forgot. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast, the Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the Fast Five stories every Monday through Friday on YouTube, Spotify and Apple podcasts. The place looks great. Well, it always does. Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[68:20] Love you. Bye.