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Speaker 1:
[00:00] California Democrats face off in the first gubernatorial debate to determine who will hammer the final nail in the coffin of the Golden State. Then The New York Times promotes Hasan Piker's calls for the murder of conservatives, and UFO researchers suspiciously keep turning up dead. I'm Michael Knowles, this is The Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. Have we discovered the resting place of Noah's Ark? An explosive new report going viral all over the media that we have found Noah's Ark. I am bringing on a man who is expert in all sorts of odd, eccentric, quasi-mystical ancient religious claims, the very great Dr. Jeremiah Johnston. We'll be joining later in the show. First though, I want to tell you about Leaf Filter. Go to leaffilter.com/knowles. Knockoffs are one of the great lies of modern life. We convince ourselves that the cheaper, flimsy version is basically the same thing. Then we act surprised when it falls apart and costs us more in the long run. That's very annoying when it comes to a phone charger. It's a lot more serious when it comes to protecting your home. Your gutters are not a DIY experiment or a place to test drive bargain bin gutter solutions. Clogged gutters don't just look bad. They can lead to serious water damage to your roof, your walls, even your foundation. If you're going to do something about it, you do it once, you do it right, and you go with a system that is engineered to work like our sponsor, Leaf Filter. Leaf Filter is the best of the best. It is not a random knockoff guard. It is America's number one rated gutter protection system with over 20 years of engineering behind it and 50 plus patents. Leaf Filter is built with surgical grade stainless steel micro mesh. It channels water in, keeps debris out. With every installation comes with a lifetime clog free guarantee, Leaf Filter Pro will clean, realign and seal your gutters before they install it. So you're not just covering up a problem, you're fixing it. This is a great investment folks. Highly, highly recommend. Start protecting your home today with Leaf Filter. America's number one gutter protection system. Schedule your free inspection at leaffilter.com/knowles. Up to 15 percent off at leaffilter.com/knowles. Minimum purchase required, restrictions apply. See rep for warranty and promotion details. Swalwell is out of the California governor race. Democrats realized he just didn't have what it takes. It looked like they were going to throw California to Republicans. The Democrat Party couldn't handle that, so they smacked him with a constitutional challenge. Then a financial corruption scandal. Then they finally, they pulled out the big card, they pulled out the weird sex scandal. He's out, which means that the Democrats are much more likely, almost certain, to take the California governor's race. And the remaining candidates are actually probably worse than Swalwell. We'll get to that momentarily. So what do we have? We have Tom Steyer, the billionaire. He was the guy who was really pushing Swalwell out. We also have Xavier Becerra, who was the head of, wasn't it HHS, over at the White House? And then we have Katie Porter, most famous or infamous for berating her staff and pouring scalding hot mashed potatoes on her ex-husband. Take the personal stuff aside for a second. Let's get to the issues that actually matter. Let's start with an easy one. This is not just an 80-20 issue. This has got to be a 90 or 95 to 5 or 10 issue. Should illegal aliens who do not speak English be allowed to get commercial truck driver licenses after the many, many occasions when these non-English speaking commercial truck drivers have rammed into American citizens, killing them because they can't read the road signs? This is pretty easy, right? This is a layup. Democrats, they want to run moderate in the midterms. They want to run moderate in these gubernatorial races. So, okay, here we go. I'm going to underhand pitch this one to Tom Steyer. Tom Steyer, certainly, we shouldn't let these homicidal foreigner truck drivers keep killing Americans, right?

Speaker 2:
[04:22] Mr. Steyer, where do you draw the line on this? Should language proficiency for truckers be strictly enforced, even if it means that some of them will probably lose their jobs? You have 60 seconds.

Speaker 3:
[04:32] Look, I agree with what was said, which is we don't know the context of this stop, but what I can say is this, racial profiling is illegal. And in fact, picking on people based on the color of their skin in the state of California is illegal.

Speaker 1:
[04:50] Okay, not feeling too hopeful for this old Democrat field here. The question, even the way the question was framed by the moderator was, do the rights of American citizens to live and not be smushed by giant Mack trucks, do those rights trump the supposed right of non-English speaker, possible illegal aliens, to get a license to drive a commercial truck when they can't read the signs on the road? And Starr goes, absolutely not, absolutely not. We don't know the context. I think we do know the context. Just a little rundown, this is certainly not exhaustive. 2017, an 18 year old kid was killed in Florida because one of these guys who doesn't speak or read English rammed into him with a truck. An EMT was killed in 2022, American citizen in Wyoming, same exact reason. Three people were killed in Florida just this year, same exact reason. A 31 year old was killed just last year in Tennessee, same exact reason. This is not just an isolated incident, even if it were, on the principle of the thing, obviously you should not be able to get a license to drive a Mack truck, a commercial license, if you can't read the signs on the road. But we don't even just have an isolated incident to point to the dire consequences of it. We have an endless array of incidents, killing young American citizens. He says, nope, sorry. The supposed right of foreigners to a job, not even to residency, not even to legal protections, not even to social services, which Democrats wouldn't have granted even 15 years ago. Forget about that. No, no, no. The right to have whatever job they want, to get whatever government license they want, trumps the rights of Americans to live. And then notice how he pivots. He says, we can't have racial profiling. First of all, first of all, this is going to be a little uncomfortable, but it's a fact. Not only is racial profiling in the broad sense not illegal, it is essential to all manner of law enforcement. When a guy commits a crime and they call in the cops, the cops hear it on their little walkie-talkies, say, all right, we have a crime, got committed. Over in Palookaville, got a crime. The very next thing they hear is a description of the suspect. And because race is rather visible, they always say that. They always say, it's a 22-year-old black male, suspect is a 35-year-old Hispanic male. Suspect is a 42-year-old white male. When it's the white guy, it's maybe a little more white collar crimes, just as a likelihood statistic. We don't even need to get into that. You obviously have to take into account physical appearance when you are trying to nab a suspect, when you were trying to ascertain the likelihood of crimes, when you're trying to determine where limited police resources should go. That's just a fact. I know it's uncomfortable. We deny it. We even try to deny it as a matter of law, but it's not possible. And all of that is totally beside the point, because the question is not about race, it's about language. There are, in fact, white people in the world who don't speak English. I know it's hard to believe. There are, in fact, Hispanics and Indians and Africans and all sorts of people who do speak English. And so the very limited question here is, should you stop people who don't speak English from killing American citizens? Tom Steyer says no. And if you think so, you're a racist. So okay, you say, all right, this is weirdo billionaire. He tried to run for president once. He's a total joker. Look at this guy. He's wearing a suit with Nike sneakers on. I know he's not a millennial. This is very millennial core. But this guy, his judgments appeared. Okay, surely the other people on the stage. On this most basic, we're not even getting into tough questions. We're not even getting into questions like, I don't know, tax rates or social services or education. This is basic stuff. Surely the other guys on stage have the right answer, right? We turn to a much more serious candidate, Xavier Becerra. Same question.

Speaker 4:
[09:13] Should the CHP be giving English proficiency test to truck drivers? And if not, would US governor push back against the Trump administration on this policy, you have 60 seconds.

Speaker 5:
[09:23] I would definitely push back on the Trump administration on again a reckless policy. I would make sure that that officer understands that he cannot discriminate against any driver without having a basis to do so. I understood a little bit of what that individual was trying to say. I couldn't see the signs, but it certainly sounded like he was trying to describe what that particular sign was trying to represent. And so we have to be very careful that we're not profiling consumers in California, drivers in California.

Speaker 1:
[09:51] I would certainly push back on the Trump administration for saying that you need to read English to drive. Not even just to drive, actually to get a very special kind of license to drive for commercial purposes. Xavier Becerra, Tom Steyer, this whole array of Democrats says American citizens have no rights, up to and including the right not to be smushed by a Mack truck. Foreigners have all the rights, American citizens have none of the rights. We've heard this from Democrats broadly for many, many years. This is a part of the progressive ideology, which says that America is always wrong, America is the cause of all the evil in the world, American citizens are therefore culpable for it. That's why we need to fling open the borders. Every one of these people supports open borders. We need to always prioritize foreigners over Americans. It's like that, it's that graph, that heat graph that you saw going viral, I think it was about a year ago, which is that leftists, liberals, always prioritize people who are far away from them, but they don't prioritize the people who are close to them. JD. Vance spoke to this when he discussed the ancient and deeply Christian concept of the ordo amoris, the ordo caritatis, the idea that we are called to love everybody, but we have special responsibilities for the people who are closest to us. You have a greater responsibility to your children, for instance, than you do to some 35-year-old guy on the other side of the world. That also is biblical. That also is normal, logical. We can arrive at that through natural reason. And surely we would say elected officials have a greater responsibility to their constituents than they do to foreigners. American politicians have a greater responsibility to their citizens than they do to foreigners. And every one of these Democrats says, nope, it's the opposite. A little preview of things to come. If, and very likely when, the Democrats win the midterms, when they win the governorship in California, we are going to see leftism return, basically unimpeded. It was impeded in the sense that Trump won the election with the popular vote. Republicans have a unified government at the federal level. And so leftism took a pause for a second, but it didn't take a step backwards. It wasn't even weakened. It was just put on pause. And it's gonna pick up right where it left off and it's going to accelerate. We'll get to one more question from the gubernatorial debate from Katie Porter, one of the most terrifying people in this entire country. And then we'll get to how The New York Times is promoting the murder of conservatives. First though, speaking of policy, I wanna tell you about Policy Genius. Go to policygenius.com/knowles. Folks, there's a lot in your life you need to keep track of. You've got dozens of passwords stored in three different places, your kid's school and sports schedules, your small business to-do list. It's all never-ending. Well, for all the stuff we do remember, we often forget about something much more important. What happens to your family financially if something happens to you? The responsibility of protecting your loved ones and planning for the future is heavy, and trying to navigate life insurance on your own can be a mess. Our sponsor Policy Genius makes that process dramatically easier by acting as an online insurance marketplace, not an insurance company, so you can get bare quotes from America's top insurers side by side for free and understand what you're buying. Their licensed team works for you, not for the insurance carriers, so they care about your needs, your budget, your family. They help you figure out coverage amounts, prices, terms, all of it. So there's no guesswork, just clarity and peace of mind. It's very important, very important that you have life insurance. Just do it, take care of it. You will sleep easier as I do. Policy Genius will answer your questions, handle the paperwork, advocate for you throughout the process, protect your family with a policy that grows with your life. With Policy Genius, you can see if you get a 20 year life insurance policy starting at just $276 a year for a million dollars in coverage. policygenius.com/knowles. Head on over to compare life insurance quotes from top companies. See what you can save. policygenius.com/knowles. Last question from the California governor's debate. I'm not sure I can take anymore. Katie Porter, who is accused of berating her staff, harassing her staff, sexually harassing her staff, using horribly vulgar language to her staff, and also pouring scalding hot mashed potatoes on her ex-husband whom she would regularly berate. Katie Porter, how do we know you're not going to behave like a complete maniac when you get into office?

Speaker 2:
[14:30] Ms. Porter, you've acknowledged that your interactions within aid and with a reporter captured on videos which went viral, were in your words a bad look and that you could have done better. What have you done to address those concerns? As a person who frequently speaks about being a parent on the campaign trail, what would you tell your own kids if they ever faced a boss like that? You have 60 seconds.

Speaker 6:
[14:54] I apologized that day to that staffer four years ago.

Speaker 1:
[14:59] I've done nothing. Even that diction there, staffer. This aid you're working with, this has been multiple instances though, some caught on camera, not to mention your husband. What would you say to your kids? Obviously, that relates to your husband. What would you say? I apologize to that staffer, that staffer, not a human, not an aid, even the way he phrased it, someone who helps you, you know, that you were so mean to people who help you. That staffer, that disgusting peasant, that pig that I ground under my feet. I apologized for gritted teeth when I had to, but I've got a lot of mashed potatoes waiting in the kitchen, kids. And if you cross me even once, oh, so help me. She's learned nothing, the Democrats have learned nothing. They took no lesson away from 2024. They took no lesson away from the rebuke at the polls that they got when they lost the popular vote at the presidential level for the first time in 20 years. The nearest thing to a lesson they took away is they need to rewrite the voting rules in order to ensconce themselves in power to double and triple down on their agenda. That's what they did in Virginia, and Virginia is the model of this whole election. This whole election, we are told by leading Democrats, is going to be modeled on the Spanberger model. Spanberger, who ran as a moderate in Virginia, and then immediately enacted the most radically leftist agenda that we've ever seen in that commonwealth. What was the lesson they learned? The lesson they learned was lie to the voters, win power, and then, in Virginia, we talked about this yesterday, just disenfranchise all the Republicans. That's what they did. They totally re-drew the congressional map, such that you had a state, a commonwealth, that voted 52-47 Democrat-Republican. You had a ballot measure that passed 51-49. It was almost perfectly down the middle. And as a consequence of that, they flipped the actual voting power in the state 91-9. That's the lesson. And we're going to kill the babies, we're going to trans the kids, we're going to flood the country with illegals, and then we're going to encourage the illegals to run you over with a Mack truck. And we're not going to apologize for one second. No hugging, no learning. This is the Seinfeld era of the Democrat Party. You see this in the liberal media as well. The New York Times, not surprisingly but shockingly, has just further elevated Hasan Piker. Hasan Piker is this left-wing streamer who is truly excruble, hates America, says America deserved 9-11, has regularly called for the murder of leading Republican politicians, called for the murder of Tom Cotton, called for the murder of Rick Scott. So the only way to improve things right now is to murder Rick Scott, the most amiable, club-able Republican in the entire US. Congress. And immediately after the murder of Charlie Kirk, which is the apotheosis of the longstanding and growing Democrat calls to kill ordinary Republicans. In the follow up to that, you had mainstream liberal outlets like The New York Times publishing Hasan Piker, saying, well, we really want to hear from this guy. What's he have to say? There was some blowback to that. But The New York Times hasn't learned anything. They just brought him on one of their new opinion podcasts. Here is Hasan Piker making the principled Democrat argument for theft.

Speaker 7:
[18:33] Yeah, no, I'm pro-piracy all the way, like across the board. Would you pirate a car? Yes, you know, if you could.

Speaker 6:
[18:40] What would it mean to pirate a car?

Speaker 7:
[18:42] If it was just a classic thing back in the day, the government-funded anti-piracy initiatives would be like, dude, would you steal a car? I'm like, yeah, sure. If I could get away with it. If it was as easy as, you know, pirating IP, I would do it.

Speaker 8:
[19:00] Would you dine and dash from your local diner?

Speaker 9:
[19:03] Never. Never. Tip 35 percent. Mike's, come on.

Speaker 7:
[19:09] No, I wouldn't do that. And if I saw somebody doing that, I'd probably pay for their meal.

Speaker 6:
[19:14] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[19:14] Would you steal a book from the library?

Speaker 9:
[19:17] Never.

Speaker 7:
[19:19] No.

Speaker 9:
[19:20] Would you steal from the Louvre?

Speaker 8:
[19:25] Yes.

Speaker 9:
[19:26] I would not be logistically capable of executing such a fact, but would I cheer on every news story of people that I see doing it? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:35] I think it's cool.

Speaker 4:
[19:37] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[19:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:38] It's cool.

Speaker 8:
[19:39] Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[19:43] Yeah, it's cool. Now, it seems like this is a contradiction. It seems like this is hypocrisy. I'm not sure that it is. In Hasan Piker's defense, I think he has about as coherent a left-wing ideology as ever there was. It's the ideology of the beginning of Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky. It's the ideology of Raskolnikov, who says, I am going to totally transgress the moral order. The book opens, spoiler alert, with the main character committing an ax murder, just to see if he can do it, just to see if his own will really can overcome the moral order. Because all that matters is his personal desire and self-interest. I won't spoil the end of the book, but it turns out he's wrong. So Hasan Piker has asked, would you steal a car? He says, absolutely. I would commit piracy for a car. He's making a little joke here regarding piracy of music online. He says, yeah, I would commit piracy against a car. But it's funny because piracy of music online refers to pirates, like actual pirates who would board ships and kill people and steal all their stuff and commit all sorts of crimes. They were total outlaws. He says, yeah, I would do that to music. I would do that to a car. Then the New York Times lady seems like she gets them in a contradiction, even though she's very cheery about it. She says, well, would you steal from your local diner? He says, no, I wouldn't. Would you steal from the library? No, I wouldn't. Would you steal from a museum? A museum, which is like a library. It's a public entity that has resources that can be used by the common good. Just the Louvre is very rich and famous and the library is local. He says, I would definitely steal from the Louvre. Then even that other lady, she goes, I would totally, I would cheer it on if people stole from the Louvre. It seems like there's a contradiction. Why would you steal from some people but not other people? Why would you steal some things but not other things? That's inconsistent. No, it is consistent. Because what Hasan Piker is saying is, I will do whatever I want. I will do whatever I want. I am not beholden to any moral order. So I like my local diner. So I wouldn't steal from, I might even donate money to it. I like my local library, but I hate the Louvre because he hates Western civilization, because he hates Christendom, because he hates the glories of our culture. So I would do that. I would steal some guy's car because I want the car and I don't care about the guy. But I like my waitress at the local diner because I wouldn't steal from her. But it's all about me, me, me. It reminds me a little bit of the famous Churchill quote, which is that socialism is the philosophy of failure and the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. And so it's the philosophy of a failure in as much as when you haven't built something yourself, you just steal from others. It's creed of ignorance in that it speaks to a total ignorance of the moral order and serious philosophy. But then it's also the gospel of envy, because it's just all about taking and greed and amassing goods for yourself. Totally inconsiderate of anything else. And okay, on the theft point, you say, okay, well, that's bad. But you know, there have always been thieves and robbers and you know, it's okay. It's just property anyway. But then it takes an even darker turn. And this I think shows you, forget Hasan Piker, this shows you the greatest danger of the Democrat Party today. They ask about murder. The answer and the response is chilling. First though, speaking of murder, I want to tell you about pre-born. Go to preborn.com/knowles. Voices of our culture are loud. The truth is often silent. That silence has a cost. 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Speaker 7:
[24:42] Engels wrote about the concept of social murder, and Brian Thompson, as the United Health Care CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder, the systematized forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for-profit, paywalled system of health care in this country, and the consequences of that are tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths. And that was a fascinating story for me, because Americans are very draconian about crime and punishment. They're very black and white on this issue. And yet, because of the pervasive pain that the private health care system had created for the average American, I saw so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place.

Speaker 1:
[25:47] Why this death had taken place? A lunatic LGBT activist, a young ideological leftist, murders a CEO in cold blood. And not just a CEO, by the way, a husband, a father, a guy who worked his way up, made an honest living, was running a company that does good in the world despite what Hasan Piker has to say. And he says, yeah, it was right to murder that guy. Because of what? Well, because really he was committing social murders. What is social murders? He cites Engels, Engels, who was the financier of Karl Marx, Karl Marx, who was a deadbeat. And he says it was a social murder because of poverty. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. The United Healthcare CEO is the cause of poverty? Because of the paywalled system of healthcare in this country? Hold on, the paywalled system of healthcare, you mean that goods cost money? That's what he's saying. The paywalled system of healthcare says goods, finite goods cost money. Finite goods are finite, in other words. And that's this random healthcare company CEO's fault? What? America is a very draconian healthcare system. We have the most generous healthcare system in the world. We have universal healthcare. Foreigner criminal gang bangers who show up and run over American citizens get to show up to American hospitals.

Speaker 10:
[27:12] They will be treated for free.

Speaker 1:
[27:13] They'll receive the best healthcare in the world. Draconian. Plenty of ways to fix American healthcare. But there is a reason everybody comes here for healthcare. Nobody goes to Cuba. Nobody who can go to America goes to Cuba. Nobody who can go to America goes to China. And he says, yeah, that's why murder was justified in this case. It's good to murder a husband and a father who's committed no crime, done nothing wrong, because I hate him. So Hasan Piker is just a total reprobate. That's in part part of his shtick. He tortures his dog on camera and he talks about how 9-11 was good. And he talks about how much he hates America and he wants to kill Republicans. And he's kind of a shock jock and he gets clicks for that. Okay. My issue is more with The New York Times. Because they're just not only are they platforming this, they're nodding along and agreeing. Which is a lesson that I really want conservatives to take to heart, especially as we look at the midterms in 2028. The only difference between Antifa and The New York Times is the smile. That's the only difference. Antifa, with their masks on, with their angry faces, they say, we're going to kill you. We're going to steal your stuff. We're going to kill you. We're going to burn you down. If we hate you, no moral considerations. We're going to murder you in cold blood in the street. And The New York Times says, well, you know, if we hate you and we consider you an enemy, even if you've committed no crime and no immoral action, we're going to murder you in cold blood in the street. That's the difference. That's the only difference. This dynamic does not exist on the right. Indeed, Charlie Kirk's raise on debt in many ways. The thing that Charlie Kirk did better than anybody was he managed a coalition that included people who kind of hate each other. So he brought a big coalition together and he told them to pipe down and stop fighting each other all the time. But he excluded the genuinely bad and toxic and wicked elements like Hasan Piker, like the Hasan Piker equivalents on the right. New York Times doesn't do that. The Libs don't do that. The California governor candidates don't do that. There is no limit to radicalism on the left, no limit whatsoever. And we should look at The New York Times with the exact same kind of contempt, trepidation, and prudential caution that we consider antifa. There's no difference between them. Hasan Piker is going to become the op-ed editor over there pretty soon. There's no difference whatsoever. Here's a perfect example. The difference between antifa and The New York Times is just the smile. Here we have James Tallarico going on CNN with Jake Tapper, who's trying to play the moderate. And Tapper says, hey, Mr. Tallarico, you're running for this Senate seat in Texas and you've said some pretty wacky stuff. You've defended castrating little kids and killing babies. And you've not only defended it, you've defended it in a different way than Hasan Piker does. Hasan Piker says, I do what I want. I'm a pirate. I'm a criminal. Screw you. I'm going to let the streets run red in your capitalist blood. Almost a direct quote. But you, James Tallarico, you try to justify it on the basis of a moral order, on the basis of Christianity. In many ways, much more wicked than what Hasan Piker does. At least Hasan Piker is honest. So, hey, do you want to walk back some of your crazy claims? You called God non-binary. That seems a little weird. You want to walk back some of your claims? Here's Tallarico's response.

Speaker 10:
[30:54] National Republican Senate Committee is already highlighting comments that you've made as a state representative. For example, they're highlighting this.

Speaker 11:
[31:06] God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God is non-binary.

Speaker 10:
[31:16] What is your response to them using that and explain what you were talking about?

Speaker 11:
[31:23] Well, I understand that that comment is a little provocative. I said it on the House floor when the extremists in the Republican legislature were picking on school kids who were different. But I don't think it's controversial theologically. Most Christians would acknowledge that God is beyond gender. In fact, the Apostle Paul, in his letter to the Galatians, said that in Christ there is neither male nor female. And so, if someone's got a problem with that statement, they shouldn't take it up with me, they should take it up with the Apostle Paul.

Speaker 1:
[31:54] I'm the Apostle Paul. I'm basically the Apostle Paul, I, James Tallarico. Because you see, he's the gay Pete Buttigieg, as I say. James Tallarico is the gay Pete Buttigieg. And Tallarico comes out, he says, well, you see, I know it was a little bit of a provocative statement to say that God is non-binary. But you see, that was only in response to these radical Republican extremists who wanted to get me to stop chopping off the genitals of little kids. So I said, look, if you let me keep chopping off the genitals of little kids, I won't have to break out my soaring theology. But you asked for it, Republicans, and so I'm gonna make the dumbest claim you've ever heard in your life. And so what's the claim? The claim is that God is non-binary, a crazy enough claim that even Jake Tapper had to bring this up on CNN. This is, guys, we really wanna win this Texas Senate seat for Democrats. Please stop saying crazy stuff. Telerico said, I'm gonna keep saying crazy, really crazy stuff. I'm St. Paul. You know who else they called crazy? St. Paul. But what of the claim? Republicans are missing this, conservatives are missing this. We're all right to say that it's absurd to call God non-binary. But I don't think people understand why. Because Telerico is not totally wrong when he says that. He's not, he's not. Telerico is not totally wrong when he says God is non-binary. He's perfectly wrong, but he's not totally wrong. By which I mean, God is male. God is a man in as much as Christ has a human nature. Ours is not some floating, ethereal religion. God is male in as much as Christ has a human nature. But God is beyond sex in as much as he is pure spirit. God the Father, the Holy Spirit are not incarnate. And so sex is something that pertains to human nature, to the body. And therefore, if you don't have a body, you don't have sex. Now, the central mystery of the Christian faith is that God is triune, three distinct persons in one divine unity. And God enters into history through the incarnation. And God is a man. But he's right to say, yeah, in as much as God is pure spirit, he transcends sex. But non-binary doesn't describe that. In fact, it's totally the opposite. When we say, in recent years, it's obviously a neologism, it's a relatively new way to pretend to understand human nature, to say, well, I'm not a man or a woman, I'm non-binary. What that is, is in fact, the attempt to appropriate to human beings a quality that belongs to God and to angels and to spiritual creatures that are not bodies. That's what's going on. That's why it's almost plausible when Talarico says God is non-binary, is because the very concept of non-binary gender applied to human beings is an attempt to appropriate a quality that belongs to God and to the angels, to human beings. But human beings are not angels, and human beings certainly are not God. We are bodies. Our bodies are part of who and what we are. That's why a man can't become a woman and a woman can't become a man. And indeed, the very attempt to do so is an attempt to break beyond the limits of human nature and to make ourselves into gods, which is the original sin. When Eve bites the apple and Adam bites the apple, that is an attempt to become like God. That's what the serpent is pitching. So it's not that he's totally wrong. There's a kind of a point to what he's saying, but it's perfectly wrong. Indeed, it is satanically wrong, which is why James Tallarico is as close to an antichrist figure as I think we've ever seen. He's not an antichrist figure in that most people don't like him, and he's not charismatic, and he's the gay people to judge, and his shtick doesn't work all that well. But if he were more charismatic, he would be as antichristic a figure as ever I have seen. Okay, I'm very excited to get to two things. UFO scientists and researchers are going missing, turning up dead. This is taking over the internet, lots of questions. Are the aliens kidnapping people, murdering people? They all said they're not suicidal. And another story, also a little mystical in nature, have we found Noah's Ark? There's a big claim that we found Noah's Ark on a mountain in Anatolia, and I have an expert coming on to discuss that, because I was kind of persuaded by it, but I don't know, my mind is open. First though, do you want to sneak peek of the newest Michael Amb before anyone else? Hear hilarious behind-the-scenes stories from your favorite Daily Wire shows, pitch your own segments directly to the people who make it happen, watch Professor Jacob Lee McAlum May stranded in the woods as he sprints to safety in what may have been a tornado. Then you have to watch Behind the Wire exclusively on Daily Wire Plus. Check out this teaser.

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Speaker 1:
[37:28] Oh no. Watch the latest episode on Daily Wire Plus every Friday at 5 p.m. Eastern. Get a full rundown of what to look forward to this weekend and what's coming next from your favorite hosts. This week, the DOJ announced the federal grand jury decided the SPLC, after allegations it was funneling donor money to informants tied to the KKK, Aryan nations and neo-Nazi groups, including one allegedly involved in planning the Charlottesville rally. Every major news organization in this country had that story. All of them buried it because when the left commits a scandal, this grotesque, the media forget how to report. Daily Wire did not forget. We kept digging. We kept reporting. We kept telling the truth. That kind of journalism only happens because our members make it possible. If you want more of it, become a member right now, right this second, dailywire.com/subscribe. My favorite comment yesterday is from Ponce Prince Z or Ponce 413 who says. He says, and I'm going to put on my perfect boomer voice. Democrats are just going back to their roots. After all, they did start the KKK. You know, it's because a lot of younger conservatives have made fun of this kind of rhetoric in recent years. You heard this a lot 20 years ago from Gen X and Boomer Conservatives. You know, Democrats are the real racists. Democrats are the party of the KKK. And the younger conservatives kind of made fun of this. Like, all right, man, it's like, yeah, sure. But it's a little more complicated. It's kind of a cope. And like, I don't, you know. But then we get the SPLC scandal, where the SPLC is spending three million bucks funding the Klan. And you say, man, maybe the boomers were right. Were the boomers right? Where they are, Democrats really are the real racists, I guess. Isn't that crazy? Maybe they actually, they're literally the party of the Ku Klux Klan because they're paying for it. Wow, I have to re-examine my priors, I guess. Okay, before we get to Noah's Ark, this is a weird story. It involves UFOs. We'll go from UFOs to global cataclysms. David Wilcock has died. David Wilcock was in the show Ancient Aliens, if you ever watched that. And apparently he's billed as a UFO researcher. This in the context of a story where all sorts of scientists are supposedly working on UFOs and anti-gravity. They're dying. They're going missing. People see some kind of conspiracy here. So here is David Wilcock shortly before he was discovered dead.

Speaker 12:
[39:49] Every day that I have on earth is a gift and a blessing. And I'm very grateful for that because frankly people are disappearing. Scientists are going missing. Now they're saying they're going to investigate this. The president himself is saying they're going to look into this and see if anything's going on. It's a little bit scary. I got to say, it's a little bit scary. But you guys knew that I might still show up even though it was last minute. And I've had a really rough week. Like, you know, that's kind of like every week. But somehow we keep on making it through all of this.

Speaker 1:
[40:20] OK, shortly after that segment, David Wilcock was found dead. In an apparent suicide. And so now lots of people are saying he didn't kill himself. Just like Epstein didn't kill himself, this guy didn't kill himself. Especially, he's talking about all of these other UFO researchers and maybe some scientists who aren't just working on YouTube channels, they're working for the government, you know, they're turning up dead. And this is a big conspiracy. And maybe the aliens are really getting us. I don't think that's true. It's very sad. He seems like a nice guy. I think this guy killed himself. I know that's going to be really unpopular. You're going to think that I'm part of the cover up. You're going to think that maybe I'm an alien. Maybe I ripped my skin off and it turns out I'm an alien. I think this guy killed himself. You know why I think he killed himself? Because the reporting around this shows that Boulder counter deputies responded to a 911 mental health crisis call and saw him shoot himself. They saw it. This guy's co-host, Corey Good, who's a long time co-host on his UFO show called Cosmic Disclosure, he's already come out. The guy, the UFO guy, the conspiracy UFO guy who worked with this guy came out and said he killed himself. It's very sad, but he killed himself. You know why else I think he might have killed himself? Because he claims to have telepathically communicated with aliens. And I think that would be evidence of a mental problem. And I also don't think aliens are real. And I think in as much as they are a phenomenon, it's either hallucinations or foreign governments or our government or demons. But even put that aside, whatever you think about aliens. I think all the evidence says he killed himself. And that's very sad and we should pray for him. As for the other scientists, I'll try to dig into that a little bit maybe next week, maybe the end of this week. But we need to have a little discipline in how we examine evidence, guys, because people are spinning a little out of control. You're even seeing elected Republicans talking about how ET is about to land from planet Sabulon 5 and take over the world. And I think this is not only kind of dumb, but also spiritually very deceptive. And I think if we're going to be the serious party that is in power, that is actually doing things to correct the very real tangible threats and spiritual threats coming from the left, we need to be serious ourselves and we don't want to be gullible. And we don't want to be taken in by people who are a little off-kilter or who are charlatans. Or this guy, I think, was probably a little more on the off-kilter side of things. We have to be serious. And even when we talk, I'll go back to the are they aliens or are they demons kind of debate that's broken out online. The crazy thing is, for a lot of people in our modern material age, the religious explanation of some of these phenomena is actually much more plausible than the physical ET alien explanation. Every culture for all of human history has believed in spirits. We know that there are spiritual realities. We act as though they exist every day. We also know the speed of light and we know that it's highly unlikely that entities from outside of our solar system that are physical are making it to earth and hiding and they only ever managed to be captured on really grainy footage. And we need to reexamine what is rational and irrational. We're living in a very irrational age. And so we need to kind of reset our standards here for plausibility and credibility. Okay, I have a lot more to get to, especially with my excellent guest, one of the few regular return guests to The Michael Knowles Show about a story that I need to know about. I know I'm running late. I don't care. We're going to go late and then we're going to get to even more stuff in the member of segmentum. I'm talking about Dr. Jeremiah Johnston. Jeremiah, thank you for making time last minute to be here.

Speaker 13:
[44:08] Michael, I couldn't be happier to be with you. And that was the perfect setup because how we evaluate evidence is essential. There's a lot of credulous people out there, a lot of naivete. And that's why I watch Michael Knowles every single day, because you cut through all of that. And there's a story out now that's going bonkers that we have to discuss.

Speaker 1:
[44:28] This story, I'm so glad you came on. You are helping me personally by coming on, not to mention helping the audience. Because I saw this story going viral last night, I said, oh, I got to cover this on the show. They've discovered Noah's Ark. And I had heard a little bit about this, I don't know, six months or a year ago. I didn't pay attention. Now it's going viral again on the Internet. There's this construction. There's this entity, I don't know, either natural or manmade, that is on the top of a mountain in Anatolia. That I guess if you kind of squint, it sort of looks like a ship. And there's this guy out there, this researcher who says it's exactly the measurements of Noah's Ark, described in the Bible. And we think, though we haven't been there, we think that there are passageways underneath. We think there might be timber holding up part of the structure. And we found it, guys. We found Noah's Ark. And I'm there, I'll confess, last night I say, well, by golly, we might have found Noah's Ark. It all checks out. And then a man who spends a lot of time, a man who has doctor before his name, spends a lot of time looking into these kind of things. You say it's bunk.

Speaker 13:
[45:38] One thousand percent inaccurate. I'm sorry, and I want to be kind. I want to be pastoral because there's a lot of wonderful Christians out there who want this to be true. But again, ideal in the world of evidence, ideal in the world of reality. And as you may know, Michael, archaeology is a contact sports. We don't get along a lot in the archaeology world. The one thing all of us get along about is 100 percent certainty. Derunabar, this geological formation in eastern Turkey, is not the spot of Noah's Ark. And we can say that without a doubt. It's very, very important that this site has a history that goes back to 1959. And it's a lot of urban legends. They use something called, if you don't mind, GPR, ground penetrating radar. Now, anyone who's been to an archaeological dig as I have, knows that GPR is famously inaccurate in the hill country, in mountainous regions. Now, if you and I want to go find manuscripts together in the dry sands of Egypt, now let me tell you, GPR will help with that. So they're using something called ground penetrating radar. And here's the fascinating part about this ground penetrating radar. Beyond the fact that they're saying they have shafts, that could be water. There are other mountain regions that look very similar, honestly, in eastern Turkey. And by the way, if you ever fly into Las Vegas, there's one that kind of looks like Noah's Ark there too. These are natural geologic formations. Second, when I say it's a contact sport, the scientific consensus is not even close. I'm talking about conservative, moderate, myself conservative, but even liberal, atheist, agnostic archaeologists all know that this is just to sell books. This is sensationalism that catches fire because Christians want it to be true. One of the gentlemen, I don't want to say his name because I don't want people to Google it because he's also found the blood of Jesus. He's found the Ark of the Covenant. I don't want to say his name because he has no credibility. Even his own team has turned on him. And then the final thing that I want to say is there's no real archaeologists who are part of this. Okay, that's very important to note. And when this was carried on Fox and Friends, they said, Oh no, we don't want to do archaeology because archaeology destroys the site. Can I just challenge someone right now? I have a non-profit. If someone out there wants to give me a half million dollars, myself and my IAA certified archaeologist, Scott Stripling, we will go there for a couple of weeks and we will dig down for, it costs about a half million and we will show you, Noah's Ark is not there, but no one's willing to do that. Does that make sense? Does that help?

Speaker 1:
[48:32] That is a very important grounding conclusion, Jeremiah, because you mentioned the different buckets of researchers. I say, well, yeah, the thing is the libs and the atheists, they're always trying to debunk Christianity. They're always trying to debunk faith. They've done it with the Shroud of Turin for decades and decades now. And if people haven't watched our special, specials, I guess, on the Shroud of Turin, different commentary elsewhere, too, go check it out. Jeremiah makes an incredible case. But I say, all right, well, hold on. If the libs agree with the moderates, agree with the conservatives, and we conservatives, because we're kept out of a lot of the mainstream institutions and because a lot of the mainstream institutions are corrupt, I think we have this weakness, this vulnerability, totally understandable. But we sometimes follow charlatans. We're sometimes a little too credulous. So I'm in some ways sad to hear, but I'm glad to know the truth that, okay, this formation, which I looked at, I said, I don't know, it looks kind of like a mountain to me. I don't like, I guess if I squint and I turn my head, maybe it looks-

Speaker 13:
[49:40] It's a geologic formation.

Speaker 1:
[49:42] Yeah.

Speaker 13:
[49:43] And it's literally called Derupinar. It's a mountain that we could go to. And again, it's never been excavated. All this is is GPR. It's like metal detectors. And then these people do this to get headlines and they sign books. And I'm kind of frustrated. Can I be frustrated on The Michael Knowles Show for a second?

Speaker 1:
[50:00] It's impossible. We try to minimize it, but it happens to me sometimes too.

Speaker 13:
[50:04] I'm trying, you know, and I would have a number one New York Times best seller if someone hadn't just spent 18 days in heaven. It dropped me down to number three. I am tired of Christians. We have the dumbest Christians of all time, Michael. And that should not be because it is the most exciting time ever to be a follower of Jesus. There is more evidence that undergirds our faith than ever before. But instead, we spend our time tracing rabbit trails, quoting people who have no credibility. I've actually held the Bible manuscripts. I've been to the Holy Sepulchre Church. I've seen where Jesus was resurrected. Let's major on the majors. All these individuals that know all these details about the Noah's Ark, can they even defend the resurrection of Jesus? Why don't you spend a little, talking to me about the Book of Enoch, nothing historical. Use that time to memorize Greek and Hebrew and then see how much closer to Jesus you are. Sorry to be frustrated, but I'm a little tired of the naivete.

Speaker 1:
[51:05] I'm with you, I'm with you, Jeremiah, because I think there is a feeling, even among pretty earnest Christians, that at some deep down level, they're not sure. They're a little fearful of new discoveries that might disprove everything. I mean, St. Paul, James Tallarico compared himself to St. Paul just moments ago.

Speaker 13:
[51:23] You did, I heard that.

Speaker 1:
[51:24] But St. Paul says, look, if the resurrection is false, we're most to be pitied among men. Like it is, he's kind of all on that. It either happened or it didn't. So I think there are some Christians who say, I really want it to have happened. I really want the religion to be true. I really want Christ to be who he says he is. But I just don't want too much, no poking around from those scientists. And I say the opposite. I say, no, no, poke around. I love it. Let's go. I mean, let's not forget, the church has been a big promoter of science. They were a little tough on Galileo, mostly because he was a jerk, really not even related so much to his science. And, but the church has been this great promoter of science and discovery, founded the universities. Like guys, we don't need to be afraid of the truth here. We don't need to be afraid of facts.

Speaker 13:
[52:05] Absolutely. And if we're going to give our life to this worldview, we should be skeptical about it. We should be the most skeptical about whatever world view we commit our life to. And what's fascinating about it, I point out in my new book, Michael, we can point out 65 facts about the burial, the life, the death, the resurrection of Jesus, before we ever open the Bible. No other religion can't do that. Islam can't do that. Islam ran a New York Times op-ed that the temple never existed. Again, credulous, naivete, unbelievable. And I just want to encourage Christians who are well-meaning, who are watching. And like this kind of, I hope my mom's not watching right now. This reminds me of the early days of Babylon B, when my mom would send me Babylon B news and be very upset. Exactly. And this is what Christians do. My phone has been blowing up that, Dr. Johnston, we have finally found Noah's Ark. And I know we haven't.

Speaker 1:
[53:01] Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 13:
[53:02] And we have not found the Ark of the Covenant either.

Speaker 1:
[53:05] All right, now I want to talk about the Ark of the Covenant theories in a moment. If you have a moment, I know Jeremiah is like, he's the busiest man. I said this to my producer, Mr. Davies, today. I said, you know, you and I, we hustle. We do hustle around DW, you know, we're holding the whole company up on our shoulders. We move, we're all over the place. I said, we are lazy compared to Jeremiah. Jeremiah is everywhere, doing everything all the time. So I know you're in Washington right now. You hurried over from Arlington over to the studio. I want to get to the Ark of the Covenant. There's also one other thing we need to talk about that. Oh, we got it. There's a lot to get to. But you, Hoi Paloi, who are well, I love you, Hoi Paloi. I love when you're watching on YouTube, listening on Spotify. I love all that. But if you want to get down to that real deep stuff, that chum, do the chum kind of stuff, you got to go to dailywire.com, get the Daily Wire Plus app right now. You get two months free if you use code Knowles at dailywire.com/subscribe. We'll see you in the Membrim segmentum.