title FULL SHOW: Snoop Dogg Faces Backlash After Parents Brought Child on Stage During Performance + Julius ‘Dr. J’ Erving Interview

description Today on The Breakfast Club, Julius ‘Dr. J’ Erving talks the Soul Power docuseries, the ABA vs. NBA era, the evolution of basketball, and Larry Bird. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to an officer relieved of duty after going on a racist rant on social media. Listen for more!
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Speaker 1:
[00:03] Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2:
[00:37] I am really, really excited. This book is going to amplify everything else I got going on. And then it's gonna, it's just another not to worry about. Shut up, it's gonna sell, shut up. It's a great, it's, yeah, it's the truth, but it's going to sell, and it's going to change lives. I think it's gonna impact a lot of women, a lot of men as well. It's co-parenting, you know what I mean? So, I think it's really dope.

Speaker 3:
[00:58] Well, I just want to tell the people out there, you know, with this new world of lawsuits, I am going to do a lawsuit today.

Speaker 4:
[01:05] Why?

Speaker 3:
[01:05] Who are you going to sue it? I am suing Charlamagne tha God, Lenard. And I am going to tell you why. This morning as we were walking in the building, Jim Kerr, who is the radio host for Q1043, which is the white station, rocks in New York City. He says, I want to tell you guys something funny, right? Me and Charlamagne walked in together, kind of close. He was like, as I was taking my Uber in, he said that the guy was like, I listen to The Breakfast Club every morning. And he said, my favorite part of The Breakfast Club is when Charlamagne tells Envy he's Dominican. And Envy tries to tell him, say, he's not Dominican, I'm really black. And people are really believing that I'm Dominican. And that is the fame of my character.

Speaker 5:
[01:38] Why is that the fame of your character? What's wrong with being Dominican?

Speaker 3:
[01:40] Because I'm black.

Speaker 5:
[01:41] No, you're transracial. And you need to stop pretending to be something that you're not. And ever since the days of racial dozol, that has been hilarious to see transracial. So you're a Dominican who identifies as a black man. You're actually Afro Latino, but you just don't want to claim it. And I don't understand why. But you do at certain points, they book you to do these little Latino parties. You ain't got no business pretending to be Dominican then and be all on the fly as holding the flag. But then when you get on the radio, you want to pretend to be black. That's corny. So I don't have a problem going to court for that.

Speaker 3:
[02:12] It was funny at first, but people are believing it.

Speaker 5:
[02:15] Now you've got to prove you're not Dominican. Let's go to court.

Speaker 3:
[02:17] Anyway, today on the show, a legend, an icon, Julius Dr. J Erving will be joining us this morning.

Speaker 5:
[02:26] We say special guests for every damn body. This is really an icon living in the form of Julius Dr. J Erving. Seventy-six years old, by the way.

Speaker 3:
[02:36] Yes, he is.

Speaker 5:
[02:36] Cat Daddy, still making the ladies moist. What? Man, salute to Lauren's mom. Dropping the clues bombs for Lauren's mom. Not just Lauren's mom. Lauren's mom was up here yesterday. Oh, for real. Lord have mercy. The pins wet, moist. Uh-uh.

Speaker 2:
[02:50] I want to do not wet the pins yet.

Speaker 5:
[02:52] Oh, but still, I'm saying they all ruined. You know what I mean? I said, why are you licking your lips? She said, I seen that good-looking man.

Speaker 2:
[03:02] Is Dr. J married? What? Is Dr. J married?

Speaker 3:
[03:06] Oh, yes, he is.

Speaker 2:
[03:07] Oh, wow.

Speaker 6:
[03:08] I was just saying.

Speaker 3:
[03:11] So Dr. J will be joining us. You know, he's originally from Long Island, played on the Philadelphia 76ers. He was in the ABA for a little bit. He has a new documentary. We'll break that all down. So Dr. J will be in the building.

Speaker 5:
[03:22] According to AI Overview, he's been married since 2008. Yes. I know in the interview, he said he had a couple of marriages.

Speaker 3:
[03:28] A couple of marriages, yeah. Yeah, but we'll break all that down. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Me and Me will be joining us. Let's start the show. All right.

Speaker 5:
[03:37] Ooh.

Speaker 3:
[03:38] Salute to the baby. It's about to be a number one record. Salute you, brother.

Speaker 5:
[03:41] Oh, OK.

Speaker 3:
[03:42] It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 5:
[03:43] I would love to see it. You said the baby about to go number one?

Speaker 3:
[03:45] Yeah, about to go number one. They got a top five record right now.

Speaker 5:
[03:47] That's fantastic.

Speaker 3:
[03:48] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[03:48] OK.

Speaker 2:
[03:49] That whole album is fire. That last album that he put out is fire.

Speaker 5:
[03:53] I just like when people count folks out and then they like boom, here you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[03:57] He's doing amazing right now. All right. Well, let's get in some front page news. Start off with some quick sports and NBA, of course, is the playoffs. The Pistons beat the Magic 98-83, Thunder beat the Suns 120-107.

Speaker 5:
[04:10] I don't even know why we're playing. Let's get an Oklahoma City Thunder the championship again this year.

Speaker 3:
[04:14] Yeah, they busting ass. What's up, Mimi?

Speaker 7:
[04:17] Good morning, Envy, Jess Hilarious. How y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 5:
[04:20] Peace, Mimi Brown.

Speaker 7:
[04:21] Good morning. So we started this morning in Virginia where judge has blocked a redistricting plan that voters had just approved. We've been talking about this for the past couple of days. And that measure would have allowed state lawmakers to redraw the state's congressional map shifting control away from bipartisan commission. Now that vote it passed 51% to 49% but a judge says that it cannot move forward, calling it unconstitutional and ruling the ballot questions were misleading and it didn't follow proper notice rules. So that decision is now stopping the state from certifying the results and putting those maps into place. The state's Attorney General, Jay Jones, he says that he plans to appeal, arguing that voters have already made their decision. Let's listen to him.

Speaker 8:
[05:06] At the end of the day, the right to vote is sacred. It's what makes us special as Virginians and as Americans. And I'm really proud of the fact that Virginians stepped up and participated yesterday. Turnout was incredibly high. It was robust. And our elections were safe and secure. And the result was that yes prevailed. And we will go and uphold that in the court of law, whether it be at the Court of Appeals or at the Supreme Court of Virginia. When all the votes were counted, yes won. And so we will continue to take that result as far as it'll go. Because that's my job as Attorney General and we are ready and willing and able to go.

Speaker 5:
[05:38] And this is why yesterday I should not have had a case for optimism. God damn well, them people are not going out without a fight. And this is just a glimpse of things to come for the midterms.

Speaker 7:
[05:48] Yeah, for sure. Republicans were really upset about this yesterday. And now a Republican-backed judge has overturned those election results. And so those new maps, they would have shifted several House seats towards Democrats in a chamber where control of Congress is already razor thin. But all of that is, of course, part of this bigger national battle that we're seeing over redistricting with both parties trying to redraw maps ahead of the midterm elections.

Speaker 5:
[06:14] So the question I have, you know Republicans are going to attempt to cheat and steal the midterms. So what are you going to do about it? If you know what the offense is going to be, what defense are you going to prepare? Or do you go on offense now? But you just know that they're going to attempt to do this, come to midterms. What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 7:
[06:33] In every state. They did that here in California too. So they're going to keep trying to do it. They don't like the results of these elections, I say, as we move forward. And a new development in the Epstein investigation, and it's raising serious concerns this morning. Lawmakers on the House Oversight Committee, they are split over whether Donald Trump should consider pardoning Giselle Maxwell, Gallane Maxwell, in an exchange for her testimony. Now Maxwell, she is the only one who's been convicted as an accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein. And so far, she has refused to answer any questions invoking her Fifth Amendment right. Now her legal team says that she would be willing to talk only if she is granted clemency. But that's where the divide is. So some Republicans say getting information is the priority, even if that means cutting her a deal. But Democrats say absolutely not, calling it disrespectful to victims and a step backwards. Now a pardon would have to come from President Trump, who has not ruled it out. Let's remind ourselves about what he said when he was asked about this a couple of months ago.

Speaker 9:
[07:36] Well, I'll take a look at it. I will speak to the DOJ.

Speaker 10:
[07:40] I wouldn't consider it or not consider it.

Speaker 9:
[07:42] I don't know anything about it, but I will speak to the DOJ.

Speaker 11:
[07:45] Why would she get handed over the phone safe, sir?

Speaker 10:
[07:47] I don't know.

Speaker 9:
[07:48] I mean, I'd have to speak to the DOJ. I'll look at it. I have a lot of people have asked me for pardons.

Speaker 5:
[07:56] I don't think she should get a pardon. Like you were charged with conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse minors. If she decides to talk and speak out about what she knows, it should be because she's trying to get her soul right before she go to hell.

Speaker 3:
[08:08] Yeah, but this is the thing. What is she gonna say that's not in the files, right? If they didn't want to release the files, they redacted the files, they pulled things out the files, you really think they're gonna put her on the stand and say things that they don't want to be said? No way.

Speaker 5:
[08:22] She can't be trusted, and we also know that she's probably gonna go up there and try to clear people's names, including the president.

Speaker 3:
[08:29] Of course.

Speaker 7:
[08:31] Which may be the reason why, to your point Envy, he may rather have her talk than have all the files come out, right? Because he can control what she says versus what's in those documents.

Speaker 5:
[08:41] That's the only thing he's even considering apart.

Speaker 7:
[08:43] Yes, for sure. And really quickly, a major shake up at the Pentagon, Navy Secretary John Phelan, he was fired. He is out effectively, effective immediately. Now Phelan, he has no military experience. He had no military experience before taking the job. He was a business man and a major donor to President Trump. He was brought in as an outsider to shake up the Navy. But the Pentagon, they are not giving us a clear reason why this morning he has been fired. We do know that there was growing tensions with Defense Secretary Pete Hessek and other leaders over shipbuilding and strategy. But the move is catching many off guard with some of the reports saying that he may not have even known that he was getting fired before it went public on social media. So all of this happening as the US ramps up its naval presence in the Middle East, raising concerns about leadership changes and at a tense moment overseas. So some shake ups now in the Middle East with that top Navy individual being fired. So there you have it. And coming up at 7, the war in Iran, speaking of that, is already pushing up gas, flights, groceries. We've been talking about that. But now it's hitting something more personal. I'll tell you what's getting more expensive and how it may impact your sex life.

Speaker 3:
[10:01] All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now. Here's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 2:
[10:13] This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 3:
[10:15] 800-585-1051.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 12:
[10:20] Hello. Who's this?

Speaker 13:
[10:22] This is Neil, the blind runner.

Speaker 3:
[10:24] Hey, Neil. What's up, brother?

Speaker 13:
[10:27] Charlamagne. Just wanted to call and then tell you that I qualified for the Boston American I told you about. And I did a personal record.

Speaker 5:
[10:35] What's the record?

Speaker 13:
[10:37] 5 hours 48 minutes and 41 seconds.

Speaker 5:
[10:39] Congratulations, Neil. How does that compare to people who can see?

Speaker 13:
[10:43] Well, it's hard. It's a difficult course. You know, with hills and everything. There's a lot of hills in the race.

Speaker 5:
[10:49] Okay.

Speaker 13:
[10:51] I want to shout out Megan and my boy Ben. They guided me in the race.

Speaker 5:
[10:58] I would love to see how you did against people that can actually see. I just like stories like that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 13:
[11:05] Yeah, bro. I got you. Well, congratulations, bro. A lot of people left to right was just like cramping off in the race.

Speaker 5:
[11:12] How you know? Oh, you can hear him?

Speaker 13:
[11:13] My guys was telling me.

Speaker 5:
[11:14] Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. It's how you know. Well, congratulations, bro.

Speaker 13:
[11:17] Yeah, because Megan was telling me that it basically they were cramping off in everything. So she had to save and give them capsules and everything.

Speaker 5:
[11:25] Got you. When you find out exactly where you placed in the race, I'd like to know that too.

Speaker 13:
[11:29] That's all. I'll try to find that out.

Speaker 5:
[11:31] My man.

Speaker 3:
[11:31] All right, bro. Well, congratulations again.

Speaker 5:
[11:34] You know, they have like 15 out of 1,000, you know what I mean?

Speaker 13:
[11:37] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[11:38] Well, Boss Marathon has a lot of runners, but the fact that he finished it is amazing. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 14:
[11:42] Hi, this is Shontay Jahayman. He's calling from Madison New Jersey.

Speaker 5:
[11:46] What's up, Shontay Jahayman?

Speaker 3:
[11:49] Get it off your chest, mama.

Speaker 14:
[11:51] Yeah, I just want to say I love my mother, Beatrice Hyman, out of Wayne Garage.

Speaker 15:
[11:56] My father, I just want to let you know you mean the world to me.

Speaker 16:
[12:00] And my boyfriend, Jahmere, welcome home.

Speaker 15:
[12:03] I already know I got your back.

Speaker 5:
[12:04] Oh, Lord. How long you was down for?

Speaker 16:
[12:06] Six years.

Speaker 5:
[12:07] Oh, okay. That's what's up. What did he do, though? It don't matter what he did. I'm just curious. What is he going to do?

Speaker 3:
[12:13] I'm going to get to that later.

Speaker 14:
[12:14] I'm going to just say he was in his age.

Speaker 5:
[12:16] Okay, so you're selling drugs. Some drugs, okay. That's right. He be all right.

Speaker 8:
[12:21] Y'all so extra.

Speaker 15:
[12:23] Hey, Jess.

Speaker 2:
[12:24] Hey, girl.

Speaker 15:
[12:25] What's going on?

Speaker 2:
[12:26] Not much. Just getting ready for my book to drop, girl. You got some kids? Yeah, you already know I got to get that.

Speaker 7:
[12:32] Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:
[12:32] You need to co-parent effectively.

Speaker 7:
[12:34] I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 15:
[12:36] I just want y'all to know that I listen to y'all every morning and I'm so happy that y'all did finally accept my call. And rest in peace tomorrow out of Patterson, New Jersey.

Speaker 3:
[12:45] All right, mama.

Speaker 5:
[12:46] Peace. Thank you for calling.

Speaker 15:
[12:47] Have a good day.

Speaker 3:
[12:48] Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 9:
[12:55] Ray, Ray, Ray.

Speaker 13:
[12:56] Yo, Charlamagne.

Speaker 3:
[12:57] Envy, what up?

Speaker 16:
[12:58] Are we live?

Speaker 3:
[12:59] This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 16:
[13:01] We got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.

Speaker 9:
[13:03] We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 16:
[13:05] We can get on the phone right now. We can tell you what it is. We live?

Speaker 3:
[13:09] Hello, who's this?

Speaker 16:
[13:10] This Santana from Texas.

Speaker 3:
[13:12] Santana from Texas. What part of Texas, mama?

Speaker 16:
[13:14] Beaumont.

Speaker 3:
[13:15] All right. Get it off your chest.

Speaker 5:
[13:16] Is that near Houston?

Speaker 16:
[13:17] It's, yeah, like an hour away.

Speaker 5:
[13:19] Oh, okay, okay. So you're listening to us on 93.7 to beat.

Speaker 16:
[13:22] I'm really listening to y'all on I Heart.

Speaker 3:
[13:25] All right.

Speaker 5:
[13:26] I Heart radio app. Okay. All good.

Speaker 3:
[13:28] Talk to us. Get it off your chest.

Speaker 5:
[13:29] It all counts.

Speaker 16:
[13:30] I just want to put it out there. I got, supposed to get my food stamps on the 18th. Checked my card that morning. Stamps were there.

Speaker 2:
[13:40] They weren't?

Speaker 16:
[13:41] Next thing you know, three o'clock, I'm trying to go make my grocery run. Why did I get two transactions from two companies? And way in California, they hacked my card. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[13:51] No.

Speaker 16:
[13:53] Yes. Wow.

Speaker 5:
[13:54] Well, there's a special place in hell for people who hack an EBT card, y'all.

Speaker 2:
[13:56] I just need to know that you could do that. What the hell?

Speaker 16:
[13:59] Then, they tell you to call the fraud hotline with the attorney general for Texas. They tell me, oh, it's nothing we can do. We just advise you to change your card and your PIN number. I said, so my kids have to be hungry for a whole nother freaking month because somebody in another state took my stuff? And she said, yes, I just hung up.

Speaker 5:
[14:22] How much did they get you for, man?

Speaker 16:
[14:25] $400. Two transactions for $200.

Speaker 3:
[14:28] What's your cash? Put your cash out, man.

Speaker 5:
[14:32] I'm going to put a little something in your cash out, man. God damn.

Speaker 2:
[14:35] That sounds so sad. That only sounds like somebody took it. That sounds like they took them back.

Speaker 3:
[14:41] No, they scam that. They scammed her card.

Speaker 16:
[14:43] No. That's crazy too. I said the same thing. I looked up the companies where they were laying in California.

Speaker 5:
[14:54] What's your cash out, man?

Speaker 16:
[14:56] S.

Speaker 5:
[14:57] S? What now?

Speaker 16:
[14:58] M.

Speaker 5:
[14:59] Uh-huh.

Speaker 16:
[15:00] A.

Speaker 5:
[15:01] Uh-huh.

Speaker 16:
[15:02] B.

Speaker 5:
[15:03] Uh-huh.

Speaker 14:
[15:04] T.

Speaker 10:
[15:05] P.

Speaker 3:
[15:06] T as in Tom.

Speaker 10:
[15:07] T.

Speaker 14:
[15:08] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[15:08] Santana Brassard.

Speaker 10:
[15:10] That's me.

Speaker 5:
[15:11] You joined November 2022.

Speaker 3:
[15:13] S-M-A-B-T. I don't see that. Where you see that?

Speaker 5:
[15:15] What you mean? I'm looking right at it. Santana Brassard. S-M-A-B-T. Don't say mean nothing. I don't know nothing about no Apple Pay.

Speaker 3:
[15:22] S-M-A what?

Speaker 5:
[15:23] I don't know how to pay with no fruit. What do you say?

Speaker 3:
[15:25] You said S-M-A-B-T, right?

Speaker 11:
[15:27] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[15:28] I'm looking right at it. Santana Brassard. You look like my cousin a little bit.

Speaker 11:
[15:32] Well, it probably is. Look. What's up?

Speaker 5:
[15:34] No, it ain't really. I'm just saying. You look like my cousin. Look at my cousin, Kayla. Okay, I'm gonna send you a couple of dollars right now.

Speaker 3:
[15:40] I ain't gonna. S-M-A-B-T, I do not say.

Speaker 5:
[15:43] I'm gonna put four crab legs.

Speaker 16:
[15:46] Thanks. My kids love crab legs.

Speaker 2:
[15:48] Okay, that's the sign. That's amazing.

Speaker 14:
[15:53] Somebody go get it.

Speaker 16:
[15:54] Look, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5:
[15:56] Let me see if it came through.

Speaker 3:
[15:57] Let me see.

Speaker 5:
[15:57] It's going through. See it? It said it got sent. You see it?

Speaker 3:
[16:00] I don't see the name.

Speaker 16:
[16:02] Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 5:
[16:03] You got it?

Speaker 3:
[16:04] I'm going to say it too.

Speaker 16:
[16:05] Oh, my God. I appreciate it.

Speaker 14:
[16:06] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[16:07] I'm trying to send you some money.

Speaker 5:
[16:09] I'm going to send Envy your cash out right now.

Speaker 3:
[16:11] Yeah, please.

Speaker 2:
[16:12] And I'm sorry that happened to you, babe.

Speaker 14:
[16:17] And I love y'all so much.

Speaker 5:
[16:18] I love you, too.

Speaker 3:
[16:19] You say that to me, Charlotte?

Speaker 5:
[16:20] I don't even know how to share it. Boy, how do I share this thing? How do I share this to you?

Speaker 3:
[16:24] I don't know.

Speaker 6:
[16:26] You copy the profile.

Speaker 16:
[16:28] Hey, Mom.

Speaker 14:
[16:29] I love Lauren, too.

Speaker 6:
[16:31] Hey, good morning. I'm sorry to hear about what happened.

Speaker 5:
[16:33] So give us some money, then.

Speaker 16:
[16:34] That's okay.

Speaker 2:
[16:37] I ain't nobody steal her, Stan. Government took them back. That's what happened. Two approximate charges for $200, and you got $400? Yeah, all right. They took them back. That's what they owe her. I heard somebody go through this.

Speaker 5:
[16:50] We got you, Santana.

Speaker 3:
[16:51] And give it to one more time, because maybe people out there can help you a little bit as well.

Speaker 16:
[16:54] Okay. It's S-M-A-B as in boy, T as in Tom, A-N-A.

Speaker 5:
[17:04] That's right.

Speaker 3:
[17:05] A-N-A. Yes.

Speaker 5:
[17:08] It's like Santana. Oh, I see it right there.

Speaker 3:
[17:09] I got it. We good. I got it right now, mama.

Speaker 5:
[17:11] I got you. I was about to say it's like Santana with an M and a B, but that doesn't even make no goddamn sense.

Speaker 16:
[17:15] Yeah, because my name is Santana.

Speaker 5:
[17:17] I know. I see it. Santana Versace.

Speaker 3:
[17:20] All right, mama.

Speaker 5:
[17:21] Thank you, Santana.

Speaker 3:
[17:22] Thank you so much.

Speaker 16:
[17:23] I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all, Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5:
[17:25] Yes, ma'am. Go buy them kids some food. Absolutely. Yo, you going to hell for hacking people EBT, man. You know people that got EBT is barely making ends meet. Now go hack somebody with some goddamn real money.

Speaker 3:
[17:38] Yes, since you just paid Santana Versace. Yeah, I got mine. I just sent mine. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, you can hit us up at anytime. We got the latest coming up.

Speaker 6:
[17:48] Good morning, Envy. I almost wore that today. That Milano. Yes, I have that same hoodie.

Speaker 5:
[17:53] Why you call that man a Milano? Now, see, first of all, I don't even know what the meaning is. The blacks are Milano. I think white and black is a Milano.

Speaker 6:
[17:58] Why you call that man that? No, he has a Milano DeRouge, and we have the same hoodie, and I almost wore that today. I'm trying to be comfortable today. Good morning, y'all.

Speaker 2:
[18:06] Salute to Milano. Morning.

Speaker 6:
[18:07] Did you ask me already?

Speaker 2:
[18:08] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[18:09] Oh, I didn't hear. Yes, we do have the latest coming up. So, Complex just released their 100, the top 100 best rappers right now, this list.

Speaker 5:
[18:17] I wish we wasn't even giving that no attention. Not because I just said.

Speaker 6:
[18:21] No, I know there's going to be some argument, at least with the unks in the room, at least about the top 10.

Speaker 5:
[18:25] I ain't even debating it. That's Complex business. Let them do their thing. I ain't even debating it. I know why they do that, though. They do that for this, for rage bait people.

Speaker 6:
[18:33] We're going to talk about it. We'll get into it.

Speaker 3:
[18:35] We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 6:
[18:39] Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down, I'm beating myself.

Speaker 10:
[18:43] That source is my story.

Speaker 6:
[18:45] I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

Speaker 2:
[18:49] The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

Speaker 3:
[18:54] Where is she going?

Speaker 12:
[18:55] The latest with Lauren Olos. On The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 6:
[19:02] All right, y'all, so quick congratulations to Michael B. Jordan. It was announced yesterday that him and Austin Butler are officially going to be starring in the new Miami Vice film, Miami Vice 85. So this is a big deal. It was already reported, and conversations have been happening about the fact that the movie was gonna happen, and that Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler and talks to star in this film. But there was conversations about budget, not budget, but about salary for Michael B. Jordan. It was reported that he was asking for $18 million at now following his Oscar win, and they only wanted to give him $5 million. There was no green light. But now, according to Deadline, it has officially been green lit. They will be starring in it, so I'm assuming he got whatever he wanted. Production was originally not supposed to begin until fall of 2026, but it will be beginning sooner than that.

Speaker 3:
[19:54] They wanted to get that movie out fast.

Speaker 5:
[19:56] They started these talks, I think, last year, so they didn't have the budget secured. So of course, if the budget isn't secured, I win an Oscar, the price goes up. That's just common sense, guys. You just didn't know that.

Speaker 6:
[20:07] 100%. So congratulations to Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler. Now, shifting gears a bit. So Complex released a list. They released their top 100 rappers out right now. And like I said earlier, I'm sure this is going to spark some conversation. So I printed out the list for you guys. Now, I do want to make it clear that this list is right now. Their plan is to do this every month and say that things change. They also note that this list was recorded as of March 24, 2026. It focuses on cultural impact, output and anticipation, not just pure lyrical skill or the quality of the music of these artists. So top 10 on the list, we have J. Cole, we have Drake, we have Kendrick Lamar, NBA Young Boy, Yeats, Don Toliver, Travis Scott, Jay-Z, Kanye West and Baby King.

Speaker 3:
[21:05] And what is this based off of?

Speaker 6:
[21:06] So it's based on...

Speaker 3:
[21:06] Because they're going to do it every month, right? And this month, the baby has a huge month. Cardi B had a huge month selling out all those shows. J. Cole released a project, so he had a huge month. So what is it based on?

Speaker 5:
[21:17] It's based off trying to get clicks, trying to get engagement, trying to get people to talk about it. That's what this is based off of.

Speaker 3:
[21:22] CI has had an amazing month with this record.

Speaker 6:
[21:25] CI is on this list. He's at 21.

Speaker 3:
[21:27] All those people on the list that I named are just positioning.

Speaker 2:
[21:30] I haven't heard of any women.

Speaker 6:
[21:31] Cardi B is number 11 on the list. There are women on the list, so Cardi B is number 11 on the list. Doja Cat, I'm sorry, Dochi is on this list. She is number 20. There are women on the list, but when I listened because there was an actual interview they did with The Game where they let him re-rank his top 10 and in the interview, Jordan Rose, who's the journalist that is talking to him, he leans in heavily on the fact that this is about the music that they've dropped, the success right now and the anticipation. To that point, I do think CI should have been a bit higher on this list because the time period matters. This was when, remember we did the Jay-Z interview conversation, that interview had just dropped. J Cole was still riding around in the car, so this is the time period that this list was released.

Speaker 5:
[22:14] I don't care about this list. I think this, like I said, it's just for click bait, it's just for engagement. There is not, first of all, there's not 100 rappers that are hot right now. If you're just talking about hotness, if all you're talking about is hotness, heat, there's not 100 rappers that are hot right now.

Speaker 3:
[22:30] But what's the definition of hot? You know what I mean? Does it mean they have to have a project out because Jay-Z's on the list?

Speaker 5:
[22:35] It doesn't make any sense for Jay-Z to be on this list. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 6:
[22:38] It says it for Jay Cole.

Speaker 3:
[22:40] Jay-Z? Jay-Z's on the list is number eight, but he hasn't had music out in years.

Speaker 5:
[22:45] It makes no sense. I'm totally confused. This is just to get people talking. Who did the list? What's the guy's name?

Speaker 6:
[22:51] Well, Jordan Rose did the interview, but it's a group of people at Complex that get together to do this, like to actually, you know, put things together.

Speaker 5:
[22:57] And you don't have none of the youngins on here, you don't have no Marco Plus on here, you just have a crazy freestyle on the LA.

Speaker 6:
[23:02] Or JID, they got him on here. He is number 36. They have, I mean, Yeet would be considered his one. He's a younger artist. To me, his music is more like youth culture. I know you guys wouldn't know who he is. I don't listen to Yeet, but I know who he is. I think we give this one to more people.

Speaker 5:
[23:18] You're telling me Wale, Wale not on the list at all?

Speaker 6:
[23:20] No. I thought it was crazy.

Speaker 5:
[23:21] Once again, there's not 100 rappers that are hot at one moment. This is just something to get people talking. I don't know why we even fell for it.

Speaker 6:
[23:33] Well, I mean, it's a music conversation.

Speaker 5:
[23:35] Not really.

Speaker 3:
[23:36] No.

Speaker 2:
[23:36] Damn, I don't even know some of these people. They just got regular names, Shay, Dave. Who is that?

Speaker 3:
[23:45] It don't make no sense. It doesn't.

Speaker 5:
[23:46] It makes zero sense. So look at my guy B.Dot. At least when B.Dot does his hottest list, you know what I mean? It makes sense of who is actually hot for the moment. It's only like 10 people. That makes more sense. There's not a hundred people hot at one time.

Speaker 2:
[23:59] Yo, LaRussell is 100?

Speaker 5:
[24:01] Y'all about to make my quarters all.

Speaker 6:
[24:02] Stop playing. No shade is sexy. They got Pusha T, number 34, Sexy Red, number 27.

Speaker 5:
[24:10] I'm growing.

Speaker 6:
[24:11] Yeah, please. And I think that was game's argument as well, too. So yes, in the next hour, we'll come back. Speaking of rappers, in the next latest, we're gonna get into Snoop Dogg and some of the backlash that he's getting right now about the show.

Speaker 3:
[24:22] All right. That's the latest. Now when we come back, we got front page news and Julius Erving, Dr. J, the legend, the icon, will be joining us. We'll talk to him in a little bit. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. Some quick sports. The Pistons beat the Magic last night in NBA games, 98-83 and the Thunder beat the Suns, 120-107. What's up, Mimi?

Speaker 7:
[24:48] Good morning. How y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 3:
[24:50] Good. Peace, Mimi Brown.

Speaker 7:
[24:52] Good morning. We start this hour with Dave Chappelle, sounding off on politics. Of course, he's never shied away from the tough questions, and he's continuing to do that in a new interview with PBS NewsHour. In that interview, he raises concerns about the overall tone of the country, the political division to the war in Iran, and whether the president is bringing people together. And when asked directly how Donald Trump is doing as president, Chappelle didn't hold back. Let's listen.

Speaker 12:
[25:23] He's joking, right? He's, man, come on, man. Nobody wants to feel this way. And I don't think anybody wanted a war. They definitely didn't want to arguably lose one.

Speaker 17:
[25:35] But when you're asking him to please do better, what was it in that moment that you were asking the president to do? And to do differently?

Speaker 12:
[25:43] Well, I believe in that same myologue. I reminded him that everyone on earth is counting on him. I think I made the point that the presidency is no place for a petty person and not cultivating a broth of confusion, which I believe is, I believe he's doing that, you know? But I don't understand this methodology. But I just know that Americans, I think, everyone wants to have some semblance of peace. And they get there different ways, some people think. But being a president seems like an opportunity to be a very unifying force. And I feel like perhaps he squandered that opportunity.

Speaker 5:
[26:27] I mean, Dave didn't say one word wrong. Like, you know, are they talking about his monologue from 2016 on SNL? Is that what they're talking about? Yeah, I mean, like, why wouldn't we want the president to do good? Why wouldn't we want the president to do better? Nobody wants the situation that we're currently in. If you're an American, I don't care what political party you are, what race you are, you don't want the president to be doing what he's currently doing. So I don't have a problem with, you know, I didn't have a problem with Dave saying that back in 2016. We were all hoping for the best.

Speaker 7:
[26:57] We were all hoping for the best. And that was the point that he was making. And just being unifying and bringing everyone together is something that we are not seeing right now. And so he continues to talk about that. And he just says that people are looking for direction, right, in the entire world, and they are just not getting it out of this president. So a very good interview with PBS NewsHour. And a change to age limits is coming to who can join the army. So do you guys know how old you have to be or the age limit, should I say, in order to join the army right now?

Speaker 5:
[27:27] I thought it was 18. I thought it was 18.

Speaker 7:
[27:30] OK, the age limit. That's, yes, so you have to be 18 to join it. But do you know how old you are?

Speaker 5:
[27:37] I thought it's 25, right?

Speaker 7:
[27:40] I thought it was 29. It was 35. It was 35. Yes, it was 35. But starting this week, the army is raising its enlistment age from 35 to 42. So they tripping.

Speaker 5:
[27:54] They want to lose wars. They ain't even trying to win. America, we ain't even trying to win no wars no more. I love that, the kids.

Speaker 3:
[28:00] And 40-year-old needs naps.

Speaker 2:
[28:01] Mimi, why is that? Why is it?

Speaker 7:
[28:03] Well, because it's an effort to bring in more recruits after struggling in recent years to meet the number. So, you know, they've been having a hard time recruiting people. And not only that, here's another change that they're doing. So people with a single marijuana possession charge can now join without needing a waiver. You used to have to have a waiver. You know, talk about why you had that marijuana charge. Now they're just taking you at 42, and they're taking your We Charge as well if you want to join the Army. So this is separate from the automatic draft registration, which is set to begin in December. And that system doesn't send anyone to the war. It just will automatically sign you up the moment you turn 18. That's what you guys were talking about. So that's the draft list in case it's ever needed. Now that list would have to go to Congress. Congress would have to approve it. If there were a war, you can't be automatically signed up unless Congress says we are going to war. So just those two differences there. But that change, this change is only expanding who can volunteer to join.

Speaker 5:
[29:04] That is a waste of time. Okay? What they need to do, they need to go get all those young boys in those shiesty masks with all those military style weapons, all them choppers in any hood USA. Go get those white boys who want to be part of these, these militias. Okay? Go get people doing life in prison for violent crimes and sit on the wall.

Speaker 7:
[29:23] Yeah. Well, or if you're in your early 40s.

Speaker 5:
[29:27] No, Mimi. No, no, no.

Speaker 7:
[29:29] You want it to do. They got your opportunity.

Speaker 3:
[29:32] Once you get about 35, you start going to bed early, you need naps.

Speaker 5:
[29:35] It's just too much.

Speaker 3:
[29:37] It is a waste of time. You ain't going to be running this fast. Nah.

Speaker 5:
[29:39] Fighting a war.

Speaker 7:
[29:40] Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you have it. There's that. And lastly, speaking of war, and I ran it already. We've talked about this driving up gas prices, flights, even groceries. And now you can add condoms to that list. So, the company behind Trojan and Durax said it is getting more expensive to make them, especially with the cost of rubber going up. And that's going to push prices up about 20 to 30 percent. And it's not just the price. Shipping delays tie to disruptions. In the Strait of Hormuz, that could also mean fewer options on the shelves. And so, on top of all of that, demand is already up. It's already really high. It's hard to find right now. And so, safe sex might cost a little more these days, just like everything else.

Speaker 5:
[30:23] Man, so get married so you can go raw. You know what I mean? All you're going to have to bring back old school methods, like the earwax test. You know what the earwax test is? You put your pinky in your ear, right? Put your pinky in your ear, get a little wax on your finger. And then, you know, you put your finger down there. And if the young lady jumps, she got something.

Speaker 2:
[30:42] I think that is disgusting. If the young lady jumps, she makes sure she doesn't want earwax on her vagina.

Speaker 5:
[30:46] How about, that's not true.

Speaker 2:
[30:47] Why are you trying to put earwax on somebody's vagina anyway? That sounds dirty.

Speaker 3:
[30:50] Because somebody listening will try that and be like, oh, I'm good. And then, no, it's not true, guys.

Speaker 2:
[30:54] It's somebody in their right mind. Who in their right mind would do that? Like, don't ever dig in your dirty ass ear, get no wax out and try to insert it into my vagina to see if I got something. Because now I got something.

Speaker 5:
[31:04] Do you think back in the day, I'm talking about way, way back in the day in the caveman days, you think they had actual tests, the test for STDs? There were natural ways to test for STDs, and that was one of them. So you and the young lady can have a conversation, and you can say, hey, I can't afford condoms right now, so let's do the earwax test. You put a little earwax on your pinky, you put it down there, because y'all already having sex, so that's consent. You put it down there. If she jumps, she got something. Y'all don't do nothing.

Speaker 2:
[31:27] Have you done that?

Speaker 5:
[31:28] I haven't, but I read.

Speaker 3:
[31:30] Thank you, Mimi.

Speaker 5:
[31:31] One quick Google search to help you out, Jess.

Speaker 2:
[31:34] I'm not Googling that, show me. I'm not Googling that.

Speaker 5:
[31:37] Yes, the earwax test. By the way, we're gonna have to do something. I don't see y'all presenting no solutions.

Speaker 2:
[31:42] And n****s are already raw dogging anyway. Like, so it don't, this ain't gonna affect no damn body, to be honest with you. That's not a good solution. I mean, I'm just saying.

Speaker 5:
[31:50] Telling people just to go raw dogging.

Speaker 3:
[31:52] Yeah, the pullout solution ain't good either.

Speaker 5:
[31:54] You can still catch an X to do the pullout. I can't just tell people to go raw dog.

Speaker 2:
[31:56] No, I'm not telling people that. That's what people are already doing.

Speaker 5:
[31:59] That don't mean it's right. I'm giving them better methods.

Speaker 3:
[32:02] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5:
[32:03] You can all, okay, what about using dual things? Like going to get a Saran wrap, or a sandwich bag, or a piece of a garbage bag. Piece of a garbage bag. There's other things that you can do.

Speaker 3:
[32:15] Thank you Mimi.

Speaker 2:
[32:16] People have a medical issue.

Speaker 3:
[32:17] Thank you Mimi.

Speaker 7:
[32:18] I cannot. This went down another lane. All right y'all, well that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV and for more stories, follow The Black Information Network.

Speaker 3:
[32:28] Thank you Mimi. Now when we come back, Dr. J, Julius Erving will be joining us, of course from the Philadelphia 76ers. There's a new documentary out and we're going to talk to him next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRouche is here with us as well. We got a special guest in the building, a little legend.

Speaker 5:
[32:48] We say special guests a lot, but boy, sometimes a legend or icon walks in the door and in your mind you're like, I never thought I'd be sitting down having a conversation with this person, but boy, I'm glad it's happening.

Speaker 3:
[32:57] That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. J, Julius, Dr. J Erving. Welcome brother.

Speaker 9:
[33:02] Good morning gentlemen.

Speaker 3:
[33:03] How are you feeling?

Speaker 9:
[33:04] How are you?

Speaker 3:
[33:05] How are you feeling brother?

Speaker 9:
[33:06] I feel great. I feel great. You know, so it's good to be back in New York. So in the last three days, I've been spending time in Philadelphia and New York, you know, two of my favorite places. Obviously New York where I was born and raised, Philadelphia where I made my name.

Speaker 3:
[33:22] Now it's so crazy hearing you say that because for so many years, people would assume Dr. J is from Philly just because of the amount of work you put in in Philly, but you're originally from New York.

Speaker 9:
[33:33] Yeah, yeah, absolutely. First 26 years of my life, I was a New Yorker, so that's always going to be my home base. Philadelphia is more of an adopted home, and I played my whole NBA career there. I played 11 seasons after five in the ABA, and that's where things really began to cook internationally.

Speaker 3:
[33:56] I want to go back. I know we had to talk about this documentary, Soul Power.

Speaker 5:
[34:01] The Legend of the American Basketball Association.

Speaker 3:
[34:03] But I want to start off with younger Dr. J, right? What made you want to play basketball and to take it professional? Because watching Soul Power, the legend, when you talk about the ABA, it didn't seem like it was fun watching the NBA at first. There was a bunch of white boys playing basketball. It looked like it was all over the place. They could barely dribble, barely shoot.

Speaker 5:
[34:22] And then they came to ABA?

Speaker 3:
[34:24] So what made you want to get into basketball, even take it as a professional career?

Speaker 5:
[34:29] His legs. His legs.

Speaker 9:
[34:32] No, it was, you know, my batting average in baseball was about 160. And then I tried a few other sports, but, you know, football, there was too much time laying on the ground, you know, especially, I mean, flag football was one thing. Tackle was another, you know, and they always wanted to make me an end, run out, catch pass, get tackled. I was like, nah, I don't like this. So, you know, hoops was different, you know, moving, grooving, taking people to the hole, blocking shots, running a fast break, whatever, I mean, it was just like free flying. So I think basketball chose me.

Speaker 3:
[35:16] And when did you realize you were good at basketball? Because everybody growing up in the park swear they had the best thing in the park. When did you realize you were really good?

Speaker 9:
[35:23] That's true. I think, you know, watching TV, seeing Elgin Baylor, then eventually, you know, a lot of people start calling me Little Hawk, Little Hawk, Little Hawk. What the heck they calling me that for? Then I saw Connie Hawkins play. And he used to do a lot of one hand stuff and tricky stuff. So I'm playing with the Globetrotters or whatever. You know, what a smile to my face. I said between those two guys, if I can get a game, anything resembling what those two guys could do, then I'll be all right.

Speaker 5:
[35:58] For me, it was like, when I looked at you, it was like the swagger, right? Like you made the Afro, the dunk, like the whole vibe of like what was going on in the streets at the time, mainstream. Did you know you were shifting culture or you were just being yourself?

Speaker 9:
[36:12] I think I was being myself, you know, as much as I was allowed to be myself. You know, I come from Long Island. So Long Island is a little different than the urban experience. But I spent a lot of time in the city when I was young, decided to go to school up in New England. So I went to UMass and when I came back from UMass, you know, I had grown three inches, had gained 30 pounds. So I went from 6'3 to 6'6, you know, 160 to 190. And, you know, so I was actually developing physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, you know, all at the same time. And in the Rucker League, that was my coming out party.

Speaker 5:
[36:56] What happened at the Rucker League?

Speaker 9:
[37:00] They started trying to give me nicknames other than the one I had. And they started calling me The Claw and Houdini and Black Jesus, you know, all these names. If y'all call me anything, just call me The Doctor, because I got the doctor. I had the doctor since like middle school. And in those five years, I played five seasons. And it was really funny, because there are a lot of people who say, that's a different guy than I saw in high school or in college. You know, and I didn't think I was different, but the observers from the outside, you know, they knew that my confidence had risen. And I guess the creativity associated with my game, you know, was showing as opposed to just kind of being there late. And even in college, I mean, I remember my point guard threw me a lob pass and I caught it and I kind of finger rolled it in. The coach got upset. He said, no, that's not how we gonna play. And you know, that's how we play. You know, that's how we play street ball. And you know, that's how people play now. So, it was probably a little ahead of its time.

Speaker 5:
[38:26] You said something, you said you were being yourself as much as you were allowed to be. What did that mean?

Speaker 16:
[38:31] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9:
[38:33] Just what I said, you know, about the coach. He shut it down. He's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[38:37] He wanted you to do a regular layup. No finger roll.

Speaker 9:
[38:39] We're not gonna stand out there, throw the ball over the defense, have somebody catch it and put it in. We're gonna work it around, you know, five or six passes and then create an open shot or get a layup. And so, so that that's where they allowed to be. And then, you know, I had a curfew.

Speaker 5:
[38:58] I thought you were talking about your style and your...

Speaker 9:
[39:04] Yeah, and the coaching is really significant because I've had multiple coaches over the years. And one of the things I tried to do was celebrate all of them. So, you know, once I made it to the pros, you know, I had a nice little party at this hotel in Hempstead, Long Island, where, you know, I lived from the first, through ninth grade, and through eighth grade. And I got all the coaches who I had, you know, my Don Ryan, who was my Salvation Army coach, and Ray Wilson, who was my Roosevelt Senior High School coach, Earl Mosley, Chuck McElwain, and got them all together just to say, hey, thanks, you know, I don't know. Dope. There's something happening that's really good for me, and it wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for you guys.

Speaker 3:
[39:54] And when the ABA started, the NBA was there as well. Was there a choice of where you wanted to go, or at the time, ABA was the only place you could go?

Speaker 9:
[40:01] ABA was the only option.

Speaker 3:
[40:03] Why was that?

Speaker 9:
[40:03] The only option. If I had stayed in school another year, because I left after my junior year, so if I stayed in school another year, then I would be eligible for the draft into the NBA. So they had a draft system. And, you know, their situation was tighter than the ABAs. But I signed early, because as an underclassman, the NBA wasn't taking underclassmen. They didn't have any avenue for underclassmen to go into the pros now. I come out of high school. So, you know, evolution is what it is. So I signed with the ABA. I eventually got drafted after the first season by the NBA. And my agent had worked out a deal with the Atlanta Hawks that after my contract expires with the ABA team that I planned for, that I'd become an Atlanta Hawk, because Atlanta is really where I wanted to live. And Atlanta got in a scuffle with their commissioner, because Milwaukee had my draft rights. If I had really been on it, as opposed to, you know, kind of listening to what the agents and business managers had to say, Milwaukee might have been a great place to go. That's where Kareem Abdul's bar was, Oscar Robertson went there, or whatever. So, you know, players who I admired, and, you know, I think we could have accumulated some championships. But that didn't happen. So, I spent two years in Virginia, then three years as a net, playing basically in my hometown, you know. New York Nets back then. Yeah, New York Nets back then. They were based in Long Island, playing in the Nassau Coliseum.

Speaker 3:
[41:47] That was fun, I'm sure.

Speaker 9:
[41:48] You know, those three years, I was a two-time champion, three-time most valuable player in the league. So, that was the coming out party.

Speaker 3:
[41:57] What was your check back then? Do you remember how much you made back then, when you first got drafted?

Speaker 9:
[42:01] $125,000.

Speaker 3:
[42:03] Okay.

Speaker 9:
[42:03] Lot of money, man.

Speaker 3:
[42:04] That's a lot of money back then.

Speaker 9:
[42:05] Yeah, my contract. Well, that's why I left school. Because, you know, because mom was doing, you know, she had a hair salon, and then my stepfather was the garbage man in the community. So, you know, he was with, so between the two of them, we were probably making between 10,000 and 15,000, or whatever. When I got off at 125, I called my mom. Something's going on. She said, what? I know you ain't leaving school. I was like, well, I am leaving school, but I'm going to finish, you know, because she was into the academics, because in her early days, she had taught school. So I promised her I would finish college. But, you know, I'm a full-time student, part-time basketball player. We're going to flip that. We're going to be a full-time basketball player and part-time student.

Speaker 5:
[42:56] I think you made the right choice.

Speaker 9:
[42:57] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[42:59] If the ABA never existed, does the modern NBA even look the way it does today?

Speaker 9:
[43:04] No. I don't think so. Well, it would have evolved, because, you know, when you look at the ABA now, I mean, there's a lot of what was going on in international circles before what was going on here. And then you look at, you know, I mean, half of the top 10 players, five of them are from someplace around the world other than the United States of America. So the game was gonna evolve. And, you know, I have a role now as a vice chairman of the board of governors for the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. So I take it very seriously. And the game was invented by a Canadian, Dr. James Naismith. And he happened to reside in Springfield, Massachusetts. So in my history, you know, Springfield is a part of it because UMass is right down the road from Springfield, even though it's in Amherst, Mass. And so honoring that is very important, but that's where the brown ball started. That's where the peach basket stories about that started. And so, you know, it's going to come back there in some in some regard, because I think the footprint of the Hall of Fame is going to get really huge. And hopefully I'll have a say so in that as a vice chairman, maybe eventually become the chairman. And, you know, it's the game, the game needs the story needs to be told from its beginning to to present day. And certain things, I mean, obviously, certain things don't last forever. You throw those out. But, you know, the new things that come, I mean, the shaking and the baking, the moves, the play of the playground game, the international influence, you know, all those things need to be talked about in the right perspective. So, there's a story there. There's a book to be written.

Speaker 5:
[45:06] Yeah, I mean, the ABA, you know, when you look at the doc, it felt more black. It felt more expressive.

Speaker 9:
[45:12] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[45:12] You know what I mean? Like, was that intentional? Or that was just the reality of the place?

Speaker 9:
[45:15] I think, I think in terms of, let's say, the ABA was the true integration of the workplace, you know? Yeah, so, so, so that's where, that's where it happened in abundance. And, you know, come on, let me see, it was 1960s when you were still a semitatist society. So middle 60s, 66, 67, we had integration in the school system. Before that, blacks were going over here, whites were going over there, Latinas were going over there or whatever. So, you know, the coming together happened in the 60s. And, you know, that's when the ABA started.

Speaker 6:
[46:04] At that point when everything is integrating and y'all are, you know, playing together, what were some of the things that you still, like as a black man in the ABA, like what were some of the things that y'all still were feeling even though integration was like happening is right there?

Speaker 9:
[46:17] So one thing for me, my introduction to integration was well before 66, you know, and before it happened nationally and nationwide. So when I chose my college, I mean, you know, I went to University of Massachusetts, I was the only black guy on the team, you know. I wasn't even recruited by HBCU colleges, you know, and I mean, I don't necessarily know why, but as it turned out, I was either going to St. John's or I was going to UMass. And St. John's probably had a couple more brothers there that I would have been playing with, but UMass didn't have many, it was just me. So, it was the story. Everybody got their own story, right?

Speaker 5:
[47:12] When people say things like, Dr. J changed the game, what does that actually mean to you personally?

Speaker 9:
[47:19] I take it as a compliment. I think the reference is into maybe elevating the attention given to the game, make people want to watch, you know, the whole fan experience. And then I think from a contract standpoint, you know, when I went from the Nets to the Sixers, you know, it was reported as being one of the biggest contracts ever, six million dollar contract. I got three, the Nets got three, and then I got, you know, five years of hard labor playing basketball.

Speaker 5:
[47:59] I don't understand that. Why did the Nets get three million?

Speaker 9:
[48:02] Because they lost their best player. And they actually, the Sixers bought my contract. Got you. So it wasn't a trade and it wasn't a draft or whatever. It was an acquisition. So I got sold just like they did back in the days of slavery. Wow. You know, but, you know, I ain't get beat up. But the contract was sold.

Speaker 3:
[48:27] I think you were one of the first players I would, I think that, I think so many companies took advantage of it. And I don't, and I'm asking because when I was a kid, you would see the Dr. J kicks.

Speaker 9:
[48:37] Everything.

Speaker 3:
[48:38] Jerseys everywhere through the roof. I think as a kid, you were the most sold Jersey because everybody had a Dr. J. Did you ever get paid off of that? Did the NBA take care of their players when they sold all those jerseys back then or that contract was the contract?

Speaker 9:
[48:51] Both. You know, I think the endorsements and the endorsement scenario, your agent, your business manager did that. You know, now I got my nephew doing it or whatever. So it still exists today where we get opportunities to market our brand. And we have the Dr. J brand and we have Irving Global Opportunity LLC, whatever, so we still do deals. I consistently say that the beginning of all that started with, you know, the PSAs. I used to do PSAs, public service announcements. I did that for the Salvation Army because I love them. And I did it for Mother's March against cancer and, you know, just different things that let people see me out in the public, know that I can speak, you know, I can articulate the language. And I'm, you know, probably some people think I'm a pretty good salesman. So that's what opened that door and, you know, it was the team effort going in that broke down the door and the barriers and gave us that look and I get credit where I don't deserve it because there was a retail operation here in New York for a long time called Dr. J's. It had nothing to do with that.

Speaker 3:
[50:14] It had nothing to do with that.

Speaker 9:
[50:15] It had nothing to do with that. But people always say, oh yeah, I was in your story the other day. I wish you were.

Speaker 5:
[50:23] You know, I know you got to go, so I just got a couple more questions. Speaking of the sixes, Alan Iverson, he always says you were his role model, right? Like a father figure and I feel like you probably understood him more than most because of how people looked at you when you came in the league. Was that the reason you embraced him?

Speaker 9:
[50:39] Not only in the league, but in Philadelphia. Because Philadelphia is a unique city. You know, it's one of one. And you know, they love you or they hate you. They love me and they loved Alan. Continue to do so. So anytime I see him, I grab him like he's a little brother. And you know, we arm in arm all the time and understand that, you know, we've gone through the Philadelphia experience and we'll continue to enjoy the benefits of it as well as understand the downside. You know, it was really funny. Doug Collins was a teammate of mine. And he said once, he said, one thing I'm glad about people in Philadelphia, they never booed me. And the crowd went, boo. They said, we're going to take care of this right now. So I said, I ain't going to say that.

Speaker 3:
[51:31] You know, I guess people were upset when you did your NBA list. And you omitted LeBron James. And people were like, well, what's Dr. J's beef with LeBron James? Did you have a beef with him?

Speaker 9:
[51:44] I don't have a beef with him. But I don't list guys till they retire. You know, so Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, and Will Chamberlain. That's my team. I made the time. I decided on them when I was 15. And they were still playing. So that was the last time I did active players. So now, that's my first team. For my second team, guys retire. They get a chance to make my second team. That's just me.

Speaker 12:
[52:15] That's just the way I feel about it.

Speaker 5:
[52:16] Who's your second team now?

Speaker 9:
[52:18] The retired team? I got to take Magic, Michael, Bird. Might not like this one, but Carl Malone, Tim Duncan, maybe Isaiah. All retired.

Speaker 5:
[52:34] That's classy to put Bird in there after y'all jumped them like that, man.

Speaker 9:
[52:39] You ain't gonna let that go, are you?

Speaker 3:
[52:42] Who was your toughest player to play against? Who was the toughest?

Speaker 9:
[52:44] Oh, man. The guy who I hate chasing around was Bernard King. And physically the toughest guy, Maurice Lucas, you know, gotta give him his props. You know, nobody wanted to get elbowed by him. Although I did get hit by Buck Williams once. He gave me a good shot. And those are the only two guys I wasn't able to get back. All the other guys, I can get them back. Those two guys, I wasn't messing with them.

Speaker 5:
[53:14] But when it's all said and done, what do you want people to feel when they hear the name Julius Dr. J Erving?

Speaker 9:
[53:21] Ideally, if it was one of one, you know, the other day I was asked about, you know, different players, who do you compare to, you know, X, Y or Z or whatever. And, you know, maybe I kind of slide Drexler in there and Dominique and whatever. But I, you know, in looking at basketball, I don't see myself out there. I don't see anybody who looks like me.

Speaker 5:
[53:49] I agree with that. I was talking even just outside of basketball though. Like when they hear your name, you know, in the future.

Speaker 9:
[53:55] Hopefully it has, we're still at the test of time, because I've been out since 1987. And, you know, I walked in here, you guys are like, hey, you guys are here. So that's out of respect. And also recollection of that period of time, which, you know, went on, you know, well before you were that conscious about what was going on in basketball. So you've seen the videos and hear what people have to say. And then our impact in terms of business decisions, you know, the racing team that I had with Joe Washington, Washington Irving, Board of Sports and, you know, the partnership with Philadelphia Coca-Cola and, you know, being three states back in the 70s, 80s, 90s and to early 2000s, actually, whatever. So those are things that I think are contributions to society, to community and things that enhance my legend.

Speaker 5:
[55:01] Yeah, I think if you grew up in a black household who had a father who liked sports, you heard Dr. J, you heard Muhammad Ali, you heard Nareem Abdul-Jabbar. Absolutely. Even in the early 80s when Michael Jordan came around and how much we loved Michael, your father would be like, Oh, you like Michael? He ain't better than Dr. J.

Speaker 9:
[55:19] That's funny.

Speaker 5:
[55:19] Hey, man, we honor you, Dr. J. Honor you, value you and appreciate you, brothers.

Speaker 3:
[55:24] Dr. J is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you.

Speaker 5:
[55:26] That's right. And listen, we're a couple of days away from the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta. I'm emotionally and mentally preparing myself. It's hosted by DJ Envy and Lauren LaRosa. Drink Champs is going to be on that stage in conversation with CeeLo Green and Kaye Michelle. Crystal Renee Hayslett is going to be on that stage with her Keep It Positive Sweetie podcast. She's going to be in conversation with Young Miami. So as a Carisha, please keep it positive, sweetie mashup. Jeff Teague in Club 520 is going to be there. Mona, Don't Call Me White Girl, Grits and Eggs podcast with Deontay Collin, Big Ice Cup Cat and Carlos King with Reality with the King. So we'll see you on Saturday, man, at the Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta. And anybody that's been knows it's not just a day of watching entertaining podcasts on stage. It's really a networking event. Correct. You know, anybody who's serious about the business of podcasting, this is the place that you want to be.

Speaker 3:
[56:18] Absolutely.

Speaker 5:
[56:19] I could call it podcast con if I want to.

Speaker 3:
[56:21] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[56:22] But I don't see a point.

Speaker 3:
[56:24] Well, if you haven't got your tickets, get your tickets. We're gonna have a lot of fun on a Saturday, all right? Well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.

Speaker 5:
[56:36] That source is my star.

Speaker 6:
[56:38] I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

Speaker 2:
[56:42] The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

Speaker 12:
[56:47] The latest with Lauren O'Nose. On The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 6:
[56:55] All right, y'all, so we are gonna open the latest this hour, celebrating Emma Greed and Chanel Jones. So these two women recently released books, and they made the New York Times Best Sellers List for the How To Advice List.

Speaker 5:
[57:13] They didn't just make the list.

Speaker 6:
[57:14] They're in the top five of the list. Now Chanel Jones-

Speaker 5:
[57:17] They're one in two.

Speaker 6:
[57:17] Yes, Chanel Jones, Through Mom's Eyes is number one.

Speaker 3:
[57:20] She's like, let me finish, let me finish.

Speaker 6:
[57:21] Right, thank you. Through Mom's Eyes is number one. Emma Greed's Start With Yourself, she was here on The Breakfast Club talking about it, is number two. Mel Robbins' Let Them Theory is number three. And then you have Downproof by Andy Stump and Atomic Habit by James Clear. Now-

Speaker 5:
[57:36] Let me tell you something, man. Getting on the New York Times Best Sellers List, Advice, How To, Miscellaneous List is very tough because you are constantly battling against classic advice books. You said Atomic Habit, stepping out for years, okay? To Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins, that's a monster. That's been out for like almost two years now, I think, at least a year and a half.

Speaker 3:
[57:57] About a year and a half, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[57:58] But those type of books rarely leave the list. So you have to sell a lot of copies in a week to make that list. So for Emma Greed to be number two and Chanel Jones to be number one on that list, that's a big deal. Dropping the clues is bountiful for them.

Speaker 6:
[58:11] A hundred percent.

Speaker 3:
[58:12] Very difficult to get on that list.

Speaker 6:
[58:14] I didn't know that this column was so difficult until we talked about it.

Speaker 3:
[58:17] Yeah, very difficult.

Speaker 5:
[58:19] You got to think about stuff like Return to Love by Marianne Williamson or The Alchemist.

Speaker 14:
[58:23] Oh, I had to read that in high school.

Speaker 5:
[58:25] But that's what I mean. Those books like that are always on those lists. So the breakthrough on those lists and to actually be one and two.

Speaker 6:
[58:31] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[58:32] And Chanel, dropping the clues is bountiful for Chanel Jones.

Speaker 6:
[58:34] Today Show by the way.

Speaker 5:
[58:36] Yes. She's a journalist on Today Show. Her husband died of brain cancer last year.

Speaker 6:
[58:40] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[58:40] And now a year later, she's sitting on top of the New York Times Best Sellers Advice List. Trust me, as someone who is in the book business, that's a big deal, a huge, a huge, huge deal.

Speaker 3:
[58:51] Well, the list is low and it's very difficult to get into. And an advice column is very difficult. Now, your book is going to be an advice column too.

Speaker 2:
[58:57] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[58:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:57] It is.

Speaker 3:
[58:58] So if you haven't pre-ordered Jess' book, definitely pre-order Jess' book, Till Death Do We Pair, which comes out on the 28th.

Speaker 5:
[59:04] You got to start some controversy or something. You got to say something to get people.

Speaker 2:
[59:06] Did I just say that out there? You surely did.

Speaker 6:
[59:10] We talked about some things in feeding some of the episodes. She got it.

Speaker 5:
[59:13] But I do. That's a good point, right? Because I want to say to the social media, they spend so much time talking about what they don't like and not enough time amplifying what they should like, okay? Because while y'all was having all these discussions about Emma Greed and what you didn't like about her book rollout, people were still going out there supporting as she debuted at number two. But Chanel was out here turning her pain into purpose. And she put out an amazing body at work called Through Mom's Eyes, Simple Wisdom from Mothers and Raised Extraordinary Humans and she's number one. And that's a book talking about parenting insights and life lessons and personal stories with other mothers of successful celebrities and public figures. I didn't see much conversation about that on social media. Y'all should be talking about what y'all don't like, but she's number one.

Speaker 6:
[59:54] Black woman. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:56] Shout out to Chanel Jones.

Speaker 6:
[59:58] You know how that go though.

Speaker 5:
[59:59] No, I don't know.

Speaker 6:
[60:01] People like the static. Well, you wouldn't know some days. Let's, okay. Congratulations to the ladies.

Speaker 3:
[60:07] Some people like the static, and sometimes the static is what gets people to open their eyes and see certain things. And some people just like the real and need advice with raising kids and having a difficult time. And that's what she was able to deliver. And salute her.

Speaker 6:
[60:20] Yes, salute to Chanel. And Emma. And Emma. Now moving on, speaking of the static, so Snoop Dogg, so Snoop Dogg was performing at a show. It was a 420 show that he did. This 420 show was a major concert at Red Rocks Amphitheater. And Ice Cube performed, Too Short. It was, you know, celebrating 420, the weed holiday, for those who don't know. And he's performing on the stage. And at some point, because there's a stripper on the stage, which is a part of his set. And at some point, there's a little girl who makes her way on stage, right? Now this video of this little girl, and she's just there dancing. He's performing, dropping like it's hot.

Speaker 2:
[60:56] She's dancing like she's dancing to Hip Hop Harry.

Speaker 6:
[60:58] Yeah, but you know how little kids, they just be jumping around? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[61:01] Yeah, she was jumping around doing her thing.

Speaker 6:
[61:03] So the little girl's on stage jumping around just enjoying herself. Snoop is like hyping her up. People in the crowd are loving it. And then it starts to go viral on social. And now the conversation is how horrible it looks to have this little girl who looks about maybe six or seven years old on stage while there is a woman on the pole still performing. And right next to the little girl is in the middle between Snoop and the woman on the pole. Was it the strip club? No, it was just a performance.

Speaker 3:
[61:32] During this performance, he has to strip a pole out there and they perform it dropping like it's hot. The girl is sliding up and down the pole.

Speaker 6:
[61:37] Yeah, she's doing her thing.

Speaker 3:
[61:38] I guess a family member puts this girl on stage just to perform and the girl's dancing while the stripper is.

Speaker 5:
[61:43] I didn't see the video.

Speaker 2:
[61:44] And the stripper was big clapping at his and the little girl was big clapping her hands. Yeah, she was just right there rapping.

Speaker 6:
[61:50] But people were upset. They said that the number one, the little girl shouldn't have been at the show. Number two, why would she be on the stage? But I feel like little kids love Snoop Dogg, though.

Speaker 2:
[61:58] No, absolutely. They can love Snoop Dogg, yes. But at the same time, if we know who we're going to see and we know what his act consists of, why would you bring your child there? And then furthermore, why would you push a child up there on stage? Now Snoop didn't touch her, Snoop didn't interact with her at all, but why would you put your child on that stage?

Speaker 5:
[62:16] We didn't see the video, but I think y'all explained it in the first 20 seconds when y'all said it was a 420 event. Everybody was high, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody was thinking, and nobody was in their right mind, clearly, okay? Everybody was out of their goddammit.

Speaker 3:
[62:26] There's a time and a place to like Snoop Dogg, right? And then a 420 event where he's performing Drop It Like It's Hot and there's a stripper on dancing on the pole.

Speaker 2:
[62:33] Dropping it.

Speaker 3:
[62:34] I don't think that's the time to put your daughter on stage.

Speaker 2:
[62:36] Yes, yes. Now Snoop didn't pull up there, her parents put her up there. That's the thing.

Speaker 3:
[62:41] Did Snoop respond?

Speaker 6:
[62:42] I didn't see a response from Snoop.

Speaker 3:
[62:44] I thought I seen Snoop, I'll say allegedly I thought I seen Snoop say, well the parents put her on stage and the little girl just wanted to have fun, you know, Uncle Snoop, but.

Speaker 2:
[62:52] But she was having fun and I'm gonna tell you she did not look one time at the stripper, she was just happy to be on stage.

Speaker 6:
[62:57] She was being a little kid, like, just doing the things, you know, look at me and then they do like a cartwheel.

Speaker 5:
[63:01] Yeah, but y'all should be mad at the parents, like at Snoop.

Speaker 2:
[63:03] I am, I'm mad at the parents.

Speaker 6:
[63:05] But I was trying to find more video.

Speaker 16:
[63:13] Rules are rules.

Speaker 5:
[63:14] See, but then the security would do their job and everybody would be mad.

Speaker 2:
[63:17] And mad at security.

Speaker 5:
[63:17] Y'all should be mad at the parents, not Snoop.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] I'm definitely mad at the parents.

Speaker 6:
[63:21] I was just trying to find more video of how she got to the stage, like how that happened, but yeah. That's it for this hour and the latest.

Speaker 3:
[63:28] Yeah, definitely be mad at the parents, but like Charlamagne said, since it was the 420, they're probably high as a kite.

Speaker 2:
[63:32] But wait, I'm mad at the parents, but at no point Snoop couldn't be like, all right, nah, get her out of here. Nah, come on. Get y'all child. Come on now. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[63:42] Yeah, he should have.

Speaker 5:
[63:43] Snoop might have been super high. I was like, is that a little kid? You rapping, you trying to perform. I think I see a little kid, but cuz, I think I'm tripping, cuz.

Speaker 2:
[63:54] You know what, I was going to say, yeah, it might have been a little midget dancing. They dance like kids, too.

Speaker 5:
[64:01] You high on 420 and you're Peritho, you just see a little person on stage, like, you know, let me just mind my business. I'ma just look straight. I'ma just look straight.

Speaker 3:
[64:07] Because Snoop didn't go nowhere near the little kid.

Speaker 2:
[64:10] He didn't, that's what I said.

Speaker 3:
[64:11] That's why we're happy.

Speaker 2:
[64:13] That's why it looks like everybody's in their own place.

Speaker 5:
[64:15] Like, I was tripping, I was tripping. I gotta stay off this mood, I knew I shouldn't have smoked this goddamn mood.

Speaker 3:
[64:20] That's the latest one, Lord.

Speaker 6:
[64:21] Yeah, coming up in the next latest, we'll talk about Russell Brand and you know why he says he is able to sleep with a 16 year old.

Speaker 5:
[64:28] I mean, that was such a hard one. That was one of the most disgusting segues I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 3:
[64:32] But you want to play next, huh, Kelly?

Speaker 6:
[64:35] Oh my God!

Speaker 2:
[64:37] You know you can always count on them to make it worse.

Speaker 5:
[64:39] My God.

Speaker 6:
[64:41] Sorry, y'all.

Speaker 5:
[64:41] Before after the hour, we need a woman named Ashley Gonzalez to come to the front of the congregation.

Speaker 3:
[64:46] This mad Ashley Gonzalez is out there.

Speaker 5:
[64:49] I bet you don't want to play a game of wrestling. Guess what race it is? I think you can figure this one out.

Speaker 3:
[64:53] We'll get to that next and don't forget, Jess fixed my messes up next too. If you have any relationship advice or any type of advice, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 5:
[65:02] All right. Peace to the planet. Charlamagne tha God here. It's time for our Shopify story segment. Today, I'm sitting down with Lauren LaRosa, LL Cool Bay, and we're talking about what to expect at this year's The Black Effect Podcast Festival. Now, if you've ever been, this isn't just panels. It's a family affair. It's not just live shows either. This is really turning into a full ecosystem for creators, entrepreneurs, and people who are serious about building something of their own. Now, Lauren, I know you're hosting this year. Every year, the Black Effect grows. Every year, the festival grows. But this year, it feels different. When people pull up, what are they actually walking into?

Speaker 6:
[65:37] They are walking into intention. So this year, we're really focusing on making sure that experience goes beyond just the content. So yes, you're going to see your favorite podcast, your favorite voices, but you're also stepping into a marketplace of small, Black-owned businesses that are building real products and real brands.

Speaker 5:
[65:53] And that's important because for a long time, we've been the culture, but not always the owners of the culture. So to actually walk into a space where you can see ownership, you can touch ownership, you can support ownership, that is different.

Speaker 6:
[66:06] Yes, exactly. And we're talking about brands in beauty, wellness, apparel. My brand will be there and more. Talk about what your brand is. Brown Girl Grinding. We'll have all the Brown Girl Grinding merch there as well. People who started with an idea that I'm one of the people and turned it into something tangible.

Speaker 5:
[66:22] And I love that people are being intentional about who is in that room, too. You've got brands like Be Rooted, who are all about intentional living and journaling, helping people slow down and really tap into themselves. That's very important to stay mentally and emotionally healthy. You've got Justin Ruff Candle Company, bringing that luxury candle experience, creating a whole vibe and atmosphere. And then Stars and Mixes, taking something like cocktails and turning it into a creative packaged experience, people can actually take home. And what I like about that is it shows range. This isn't one lane. This is creativity meeting business across the board.

Speaker 6:
[66:56] That is exactly it. We wanted to mix a bunch of brands that reflect how diverse we as creators and entrepreneurs are. And now they're in a space where thousands of people can discover, support them and grow with them.

Speaker 5:
[67:07] And let me say this too. This isn't just come buy something and leave. This is networking. Okay, it's relationship building. This is I met somebody at a table and now we're collaborating on something six months later. That's how ecosystems get built.

Speaker 6:
[67:19] That's really what the goal is. We want you guys to get out, talk to people that are there. We want people to leave with real connections, not just content because content inspires you, but connection is what sustains you.

Speaker 5:
[67:29] Speaking of sustainability, we've got to talk about Shopify because they're playing a big role in making sure their businesses don't just show up, they level up.

Speaker 6:
[67:36] Absolutely. Shopify is coming in with real tools, real support, and real education. If you're a business owner or even just thinking about becoming one, you're going to have the access to information that can help you actually build and scale.

Speaker 5:
[67:47] That's key because a lot of people got ideas, a lot of people got talent, and not everybody knows how to turn that into a business. Shopify is helping bridge that gap, okay? You've got the vision, now here's how you execute.

Speaker 6:
[67:59] Right, from setting up your storefront to understanding your customers to actually converting attention into revenue. It's about making entrepreneurship actually feel accessible, not intimidating.

Speaker 5:
[68:08] And that's why I want to challenge the creators listening right now because we're in a time where everybody wants to go viral, everybody wants views, but views don't equal ownership, all right? You've got to start asking yourself, what do I own? What am I building? The algorithm disappears tomorrow, what do I still have? And that's what spaces like The Black Effect and partnerships like Shopify are trying to teach.

Speaker 6:
[68:27] And being at the festival, you can actually feel the shift in real time. You're surrounded by a bunch of people who look just like you, who started where you are and now they're running businesses. It makes it real. It makes it feel actually possible.

Speaker 5:
[68:39] When you say look like, you don't mean physical. Don't call me Twins, you ugly.

Speaker 6:
[68:42] Yeah. Oh, we're going to be in Atlanta. They're going to love to call you baldhead self-twin.

Speaker 5:
[68:45] Now, because sometimes all people need is exposure. Sometimes you don't even know what's possible until you see it up close. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Speaker 6:
[68:52] Exactly. It's like planting a seed. Whether you're ready right now or not, you leave thinking bigger.

Speaker 5:
[68:58] For anybody pulling up to the Black Effect Podcast Festival this year, don't just come as a fan. Don't just come to take pictures and post. Come with intention. Walk the marketplace, talk to the founders, whether it's BeRooted, Justin Ruff Candle Company, Stirs and Mixes, Lauren LaRosa with Brown Girl Grinding, whatever it is, okay, any of the incredible businesses that's going to be in the building. Ask questions, learn something, because this is bigger than a festival. This is about building ownership, building legacy, and really stepping into what's next for black entrepreneurs. So salute to Shopify for helping make that possible, turning ideas into businesses and businesses into something that can actually last.

Speaker 16:
[69:37] Till I made it!

Speaker 2:
[69:38] Don't be out here acting like a donkey.

Speaker 14:
[69:40] Tee-haw, bitch!

Speaker 16:
[69:41] Tee-haw!

Speaker 9:
[69:42] It's time for Donkey of the Day.

Speaker 3:
[69:44] I'm a big boy, I can take it.

Speaker 5:
[69:50] If you say something you may not agree with, doesn't mean I mean it.

Speaker 9:
[69:56] Donkey of the day, right here.

Speaker 5:
[69:59] The Breakfast Club, bitches.

Speaker 2:
[70:00] You can call me the Donkey of the Day, but like, I mean no harm.

Speaker 5:
[70:04] Yes, Donkey of the Day for Thursday, April 23rd, goes to a Houston police officer named Ashley Gonzalez. Ashley was also confirmed to have served in the US. Marine Corps between 2019 and 2023, where she attained the rank of corporal, okay, E3. So a cop and a Marine, Ashley is, okay. Keep in mind, police and Marines are both considered public servants. They are supposed to serve the needs of the public with no bias, no discrimination, but Ashley Gonzalez, who is clearly Latino, we have no need to play a game of guess what race it is this one. This young lady decided to go on Facebook and go live in a black spaghetti top, and express how much she doesn't like black people. Because of an off-duty encounter she had with someone who she accused of trying to steal her wallet from her purse. Would you like to hear what happened? Let's go to KHOU 11 for the report please.

Speaker 11:
[70:54] The amount of times that I will always and forever say that I f**king hate n*****.

Speaker 4:
[70:58] This is video of what police say appears to be their officer Ashley Gonzales going on a racist rant. The Instagram post was clipped and shared by community activist Dr. Candice Matthews Monday night. The officer is heard saying a racial slur at least 25 times. Since the post has gone viral Gonzales has been relieved of duty. And in the social media video references being in the Marines.

Speaker 11:
[71:23] I feel like I was back in the Marine Corps.

Speaker 4:
[71:25] According to the Houston Police Department's General Order, officers must comply with the Code of Ethics that mentions acting without prejudices. And they have a social media policy that prohibits them from posting anything that would harm the reputation of the department or city. The HPOU president Douglas Griffith said in a statement, quote, In no way does the HPOU or its leadership condone or tolerate racist behavior from any of our officers, end quote.

Speaker 5:
[71:54] 25 niggas in a minute and a half? I've never even heard a rapper do that. OK, who in the hell says, let me record my racism and then hit send? Can we hear it? Can I hear just the sum of just her ranting? Can I hear some of that, please?

Speaker 11:
[72:15] Like, I hate y'all, like, you, like, I don't f***ing... Oh, we were slaves this entire... I don't give a f***ing... Like, for a f***ing reason, you guys were f***ing slaves. You guys don't know anything better than to f***ing steal. Like, dawg, like, let me get a f***ing black person on a 911 call tomorrow, especially. F***, you're going to f***ing jail. I don't give a f***. You're getting treated like a bunch of f***ing s***, because why the f***, as you as a small as f***, are you learning how to f***ing steal already? Like how the okay, okay.

Speaker 5:
[72:45] I don't need to hear no more.

Speaker 17:
[72:47] Jesus Christ.

Speaker 5:
[72:48] No more. Ashley, I know you are a cop. I know you are former Marine, but please don't think for one second that you can't get racially profiled to. Okay. I just got to picture you up right now. All right. I don't understand how y'all think systemic racism works. They don't care that you serve this country. They don't care that you are a cop. You are brown girl in America. You can and will get profiled and discriminated against too. There is data that shows that black Americans report higher levels of frequent discrimination in police profiling while Hispanics face distinct high levels of profiling regarding immigration status and language usage. Ashley, with that accent, that last name Gonzalez and that Spaghetti Top, you are guaranteed to be ICE's next top target. You know I'm all for thoughts, just staying thoughts. But not when people are in positions of power like this. This woman said she couldn't wait to take a black person to jail on the next 911 call simply because one black person allegedly tried to steal her wallet. I'm glad that she decided to say how she feels openly because we need to know who's who. Her actions can turn into consequences. She has a badge that gives her power over people's freedom and that badge with a gun and her racist energy can lead to very very very very bad things happening. She's not just racist, she's not just ignorant, she's dangerous. Systemic racism in a spaghetti top. Ready to ruin another person of colors day. This woman has to be fired. There is no rehabilitating this. When someone shows you who they are, especially in law enforcement, believe them the first time. And the fact that she thought that she was bigger than the program. She doesn't need to have the job as a police officer because she doesn't even care about the job. Because if she did care, why the hell would she go live and say these things? As I said earlier, why would you record your racism and then upload it? You are a former Marine and current Houston police officer and you think it's okay to get on camera and tell the world how much you don't like black people? Either you think very little of your job or you believe people think that little of black people that you could get that off. If she can profile all black people because of one black person trying to steal her wallet, then police should understand why folks profile all police when something like this happens. Ashley Gonzalez is why there is no trust between communities and police. How does someone with this kind of bias get the job in the first place? How can you have this type of bias? When your last name is Gonzalez, you have an accent and you're wearing a spaghetti top. Ashley, if you talk like this when the cameras are on, what are you doing when the cameras are off? Especially the body cameras. Behavior like this destroys public trust. You cannot wear badge to protect people you openly admit you hate. That's not law enforcement. That's a liability. Please let Remy Ma give Ashley Gonzalez the biggest hee-haw.

Speaker 4:
[75:47] Hee-haw, hee-haw.

Speaker 2:
[75:49] You stupid mother f**ker. Are you dumb? She knows definitely dumb.

Speaker 5:
[75:54] Crazy. Yeah, she shouldn't be suspended. She should be fired.

Speaker 2:
[75:58] Absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[75:59] I think she'll be fired soon. I think they got to do a proper investigation, but there's no way you bring her back.

Speaker 5:
[76:03] Yeah, they're waiting on a final ruling.

Speaker 3:
[76:04] Yeah, there's no way.

Speaker 2:
[76:05] She's one of the people that you drop off in the hood for the most gulliest black people. Just let them do whatever they want to her. And let's see if she still talks like that. Since you hate her so much, you know.

Speaker 3:
[76:16] Well, she probably wouldn't, but it's still in her heart. She still feels that way.

Speaker 2:
[76:19] But you gotta be racist with your chest, though. Not in your car.

Speaker 5:
[76:23] But how can you? It's so crazy to be racist like that. You are also a Gonzalez. You are a brownie.

Speaker 3:
[76:28] Makes no sense.

Speaker 5:
[76:29] Your people out here getting profiled right now. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[76:33] Makes no sense. And you got a spaghetti top on. That really bothers you, huh?

Speaker 5:
[76:39] No, I mean, it's not a stereotype if it's true.

Speaker 2:
[76:41] I wonder what happened before that. Somebody made Shorty mad.

Speaker 5:
[76:43] I just told you that she thought that a black person tried to steal her wallet.

Speaker 2:
[76:47] Yeah. Oh, no, not bad. I was listening like you. I wasn't listening like you do sometimes. Damn, that's crazy. I didn't know that. But Shorty was mad.

Speaker 3:
[76:56] You know she was a police officer, right?

Speaker 2:
[76:57] Yeah, I heard that. The only thing I didn't hear was why she did that.

Speaker 3:
[77:02] She's Latino.

Speaker 2:
[77:02] I know, yeah, I heard that when you said Gonzalez. I was like, damn, I didn't expect that story from a Gonzalez, but okay.

Speaker 3:
[77:09] Okay, all right. Well, that was, thank you for that Donkey of the Day, sir. Yes, ma'am. Now, when we come back, Jess Fix My Mess, 800-585-1051. If you're having relationship issues or problems, call Jess now at The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 2:
[77:22] Relationship problems? You need to beat your coworker's ass. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix it.

Speaker 3:
[77:36] Warning, everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Jess Fix My Mess. We have Aisha on the line. Aisha, good morning.

Speaker 14:
[77:46] Hi, good morning, guys. How are you?

Speaker 3:
[77:48] Good morning, love.

Speaker 14:
[77:49] How are you?

Speaker 3:
[77:49] Why are you laughing so crazy?

Speaker 14:
[77:50] She's pretty chipper. Oh my God, I'm so happy. I thought I was going to get through.

Speaker 2:
[77:57] Well, you are through. What's going on?

Speaker 14:
[78:00] Yes. So, Jess, so I've been with my boyfriend for almost three years. He cheated on me in the past. I forgave him for it. But the same girl that he cheated on me with, he moved to Virginia and he cheated on me with her again. But I don't know. He told me he loved me and all of these things, but I don't know what I should do.

Speaker 2:
[78:21] Okay. So you're saying he cheated on you before with someone, and then he went to Virginia and cheated on you with the same girl.

Speaker 14:
[78:29] With the same girl.

Speaker 2:
[78:30] Yeah. I mean, and you don't know what you should do?

Speaker 15:
[78:33] I mean, he told me he loved me and he wants to be with me, but he's like, I can't lose you. I don't want to lose you and stuff, but I'm like, I don't, I can't, like, I just can't seem to get over it.

Speaker 14:
[78:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:44] What do you think he's telling her? That's all, that's what they're supposed to do, to keep you, you know, especially if you fall for it, my man. Come on. The manipulation is crazy, but you don't seem like you're a tough cookie to crack, though. You don't seem like a tough nut to crack. Like, you seem like all he got to do was tell you what you want to hear, and then you back in it, you know? You back to seeing the sunshine and rainbows again. But you're still hurt, though. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 15:
[79:09] He tells me like that he's like, I don't know, he's just like beating me live and just telling me everything that I wanted here. But it's like, and then he's like, Oh, I can't, I can't, I can't be without you.

Speaker 14:
[79:18] I can't live without you. And I'm just like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't believe it.

Speaker 15:
[79:23] Like I just, I don't.

Speaker 14:
[79:25] Right.

Speaker 2:
[79:25] So he does he live with you?

Speaker 14:
[79:28] No.

Speaker 2:
[79:28] Do you take care?

Speaker 14:
[79:29] I live in New York.

Speaker 15:
[79:29] I live in Virginia.

Speaker 2:
[79:31] Do you? Where do you live?

Speaker 14:
[79:32] In New York.

Speaker 2:
[79:33] And he lives in Virginia?

Speaker 15:
[79:34] Yes. No.

Speaker 2:
[79:35] Do you, do you give him money? Like, do you take care of him? Like, what is it? Like, what do you do for him?

Speaker 15:
[79:40] I don't, I don't know what it is for him. Like, we, we just, like, he just moved out there because he's still trying to figure out his life and stuff like that, apparently. But I don't, like, it's, I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[79:51] All right. Now look, what does he do for you? Seriously, like, do not give me no BS. What does he do for you? Honestly, what does he do for your confidence? What does he do for, for your intelligence? Do you learn anything from him? Do you feel like this is the person you want to live the rest of your life with? Like, what does he, are you in love? What does he do for you?

Speaker 15:
[80:12] Most of the time, I did. Yeah, I did. I felt like that. But now I don't, I don't feel like that anymore.

Speaker 14:
[80:17] And he doesn't make me feel secure. And I feel like he's going to cheat every chance that he gets.

Speaker 15:
[80:21] And this is the same girl that, like, I found out about before and we broke up about it before. And it's like, he's just like, oh, I'm just a man. Like, I can't, I can't stop. Like, it's just, I'm like, that's not it.

Speaker 2:
[80:33] All right, stop right there. He already told you what it was, right? So he basically gave you walking papers, but you're not taking them. Girl, he just told you, he told you, I can't stop, I'm just a man. That's some bullsh**. But I'm saying, that's all he could come up with?

Speaker 6:
[80:49] Seriously?

Speaker 2:
[80:50] Girl, he does not care because he knows that you're going to fall for anything he says. He doesn't have to work very hard to get back into your good graces. He does not have to work hard. That's on you. So, now that he told you that he's not going to be able to stop, you have to love yourself enough to keep it moving. Yeah.

Speaker 15:
[81:08] And I found out through her Instagram, she posted it.

Speaker 14:
[81:11] He didn't even post it. He wasn't even going to tell me if I didn't find out. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[81:15] All of this?

Speaker 14:
[81:15] She was posting it.

Speaker 2:
[81:18] Okay. Wait a minute, she was posting what? Him?

Speaker 14:
[81:21] Yeah, on her Instagram.

Speaker 15:
[81:22] Like, the podcast show that she was over there.

Speaker 2:
[81:24] Yeah. Girl, that is his girlfriend. That's his other girlfriend. That's what it is. Ain't nobody that I'm just sleeping with. You know what I'm saying? If I'm a dude, ain't nobody I'm just sleeping with posting me. And then this is, they have a history. Girl, they are together while he's in Virginia. Like, that's what that is. He's trying to figure himself out. No, he's trying to have a girl and every, he's trying to create convenience everywhere he goes. And you're convenient for him when he comes to New York. She's convenient for him while he's in Virginia.

Speaker 14:
[81:57] No, but she lived in San Francisco. She came from San Francisco to visit him.

Speaker 2:
[82:01] Day together. That's who to relate. You the side bitch at this point. That is who he's with. That's who he's with. So I'm not playing. This is some tough love, sister. Kid, keep it moving. And I loved how you sound when I first answered, when we first answered the phone. You, oh my God, your energy. You sound like a bowl of energy, a fresh breath of air. Like you have, you are such a vibe girl. You don't deserve that. He does not deserve you. Keep it moving.

Speaker 15:
[82:29] Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[82:30] Yes, love on yourself. Yes, love on yourself.

Speaker 14:
[82:33] Thank you so much. Thank you guys.

Speaker 3:
[82:35] We're in the middle of Jess Fix My Mess. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 15:
[82:38] This is Josephine.

Speaker 3:
[82:39] Hey Josephine, what's your question for Jess?

Speaker 15:
[82:41] Okay, so I've been dating this guy since January, 2024. And we dated for two months. And he asked, well, the first date, he asked me to be his girlfriend. And he was my boyfriend. And so two months in, he goes to get a haircut. And we kind of got into a fight before he started getting his hair cut. So I walked in, because he wouldn't answer my calls when I was driving off to try to talk to him. And I interrupted his haircut.

Speaker 14:
[83:07] So he broke up with me.

Speaker 15:
[83:09] So after that, we still like talked and whatever. And then like a year later, he asked me to be his girlfriend again. We started dating while we were together. And then he asked me to move up to North Florida with him. So I didn't want to move up to North Florida with him, because the reason that I moved to South Florida is because my father was here. And I have no family up there. So we just kind of kept dating, kept in touch or whatever. But now we're back to like dating again. And it just feels like we're starting over from scratch. And I just don't feel like we should be, because we have like history. And so I'm just trying to decide in my waste of my time. Or should I just walk away? Or should I just kind of like let it play out?

Speaker 2:
[83:54] I just can't get past him the first time, breaking up with you because you interrupted his haircut.

Speaker 15:
[84:01] No, like literally. But my dad, so I talked to my dad about it. My dad was like, oh, OK, Josie, you don't interrupt a man's haircut.

Speaker 2:
[84:10] Daddy, please. Daddy, chill. Like, that is not what we're doing here. So your dad might be a little player player too.

Speaker 15:
[84:17] Anyway, he's he's Haitian.

Speaker 14:
[84:19] He's like so like intense.

Speaker 2:
[84:22] Oh, so he wanted to zoos, honey. Oh, yeah, I understand. Oh, my gosh. OK, all right. All right, Papa Bear. But listen, this ain't about him. This is about the guy. Is he Haitian?

Speaker 15:
[84:33] No, but he's Caribbean, but he's not Haitian.

Speaker 2:
[84:36] OK, I can't get over the fact that he broke up with you because you interrupted his haircut. I don't even know what that means. Like, what are you talking about? Did you walk in the barber shop and make a scene? Like, I can't get past that.

Speaker 15:
[84:48] No, I just I because what really happened, and I didn't realize this until a while later, was he didn't want to have this conversation in the chair, but he could have just answered the phone when I was outside. But when he walked, when he got up to walk outside with me, to talk to me, the guy took the next person I was waiting for him, and he had to wait an hour to get his to finish getting his haircut. So I think that's really okay.

Speaker 2:
[85:10] That's still very extreme to break up with a bitch because you had to wait an extra hour to get your haircut. All you got to do is text me. We'll have this conversation later. I can't talk right now. I'm in a barbershop. We're going to get to you right after this girl. Hell no. Do not move from South Florida to North Florida to deal with a dude that broke up with you because he blamed you for somebody else getting to see you on your feet. You lose your seat. That's it. All he had to do was tell you, I'm going to talk to you later. He doesn't have patience right there.

Speaker 15:
[85:40] That's all I was saying. You could have entered the phone and said that.

Speaker 2:
[85:43] He does not have patience. He has a control issue and that is a red flag. So no. Let me ask you something. Your father is single too?

Speaker 15:
[85:54] No. My father was married to my mom for 10 years. Then he's been married to his wife now for 20 years.

Speaker 2:
[86:00] Okay.

Speaker 15:
[86:01] All right.

Speaker 2:
[86:01] Because I was about to die.

Speaker 14:
[86:03] But he is a player though. So don't let that...

Speaker 2:
[86:04] Absolutely. Absolutely. He sounds like a player. You don't interrupt a man's, you know, haircut. No, no, no. Absolutely not. The fact that he vouched for him is hilarious. But no. No. Don't move. That's my sentiments to you. Don't move. You'll regret it. You'll regret it before a year. You'll regret it as soon as you get there. Because if you allow yourself to do that, then that actually is showing him that you're willing to do anything for him.

Speaker 15:
[86:30] Seriously, and he worked for an artist. At the time he asked me to move, he had stopped working for the artist and then got a job for the city where he's living. But two months later, he went back to work for the artist. So he's out of town 75 percent of the time. Yeah. I was like, if I would have moved there, I would have been there by myself.

Speaker 2:
[86:49] Exactly. No, no, no. It's okay. Then it doesn't sound like he has too much stability either. He needs somebody else that's fit for him. You need to stay your ass in South Florida with your father and your stepmother. Go ahead and do that. All right. Thank you. No problem.

Speaker 3:
[87:07] All right. That's Jess Fix My Mess, 800-585-1051. Don't forget, pick up Jess' book, pre-order it. It comes out April 28th.

Speaker 2:
[87:16] Yes, it does.

Speaker 5:
[87:17] It's Tuesday. Yep.

Speaker 2:
[87:18] Co-parenting memoir.

Speaker 3:
[87:20] All right. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 16:
[87:41] Brought to you by Top Dog Law on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 6:
[87:47] So real quick before we get into the latest, Floyd Mayweather just announced another fight. Maybe this is like a warm up for his fight against Pacquiao, but he's fighting someone in Athens, Greece on June 27th. It is Iron Mike Zambides that he'll be fighting.

Speaker 5:
[88:03] What happened to Iron Mike Tyson? Is that still happening?

Speaker 6:
[88:06] I believe the Tyson fight. Hold on. Did they put that on pause?

Speaker 5:
[88:09] Is the Pacquiao fight still happening?

Speaker 6:
[88:11] The Pacquiao fight is happening, I know for sure. I haven't seen anything about that not happening. I know they tried to say it wasn't, and then Pacquiao's team came out and said it was, but there were some issues with things going on behind the scenes. But this fight just came out of nowhere.

Speaker 5:
[88:21] Well, you know what else came out of nowhere when they said that he had got a $7.3 million IRS tax lien for unpaid taxes.

Speaker 3:
[88:29] I seen somebody else put online that he owed them allegedly $30,000 for something for a venue. So yeah, he probably got to make that break.

Speaker 5:
[88:39] Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, I don't care about it then. If I owe the IRS $7.3 million, y'all, that $30,000, you'll get that back in blood, man. I gotta kick it out of that.

Speaker 3:
[88:49] I mean, if it is true, they're probably gonna sue him. But the thing with the IRS, at least you could make a payment plan with them if worse comes to worst. But you gotta pay them back.

Speaker 2:
[88:58] That's a lot of bread.

Speaker 6:
[88:59] I'm starting to believe you guys now that he's on the money chase. Because I just asked someone who's really into boxing in the room, Ray, like were we expecting this? Like, you know, sometimes the fights be like rumored. He's like, no, I don't even know where that came from.

Speaker 5:
[89:12] Lauren, Lauren, this man has a $7.3 million tax lien. Yes, he's on the money chase.

Speaker 6:
[89:16] Yes. But you know, Floyd Money Mayweather, you always feel like he got it. Right.

Speaker 2:
[89:20] I'm just shocked that we're even sitting here talking about like that part of it. Because man, I mean, you would think you got everything paid up. I mean, you know.

Speaker 6:
[89:26] Or at least in control. Things can happen.

Speaker 3:
[89:29] Things can happen. We don't know what bad investments are, or what happened that went left. I mean, because Monday you could be good, and then Tuesday you could be on the money chase.

Speaker 2:
[89:37] I know, but if you got the right financial team, and you got that much money, you get It can still happen.

Speaker 3:
[89:43] It can still happen. You don't know what happened with his financial team. You don't know the ins and outs, but like Charlamagne said, you never laugh, you learn, because you could be in that situation.

Speaker 5:
[89:51] It is unpaid taxes from 2018 to 2023, so you don't know what was going on. You don't know if he had a bad financial advisor. You don't know what it was.

Speaker 3:
[89:58] Or the accountant did something wrong, you just don't know.

Speaker 6:
[90:00] There's that lawsuit with Showtime, still. Remember where he was saying that things were going wrong with how money was being paid out to him. So, there it is.

Speaker 3:
[90:07] He should be just grateful that he can get a fight and get a couple million to pay his bills off, right? Because not too many people, if they all get into that situation, be like, you know what? I'm going to do a fight next week or next month and be able to get a couple million. Most people can't.

Speaker 6:
[90:17] Yes. All right, y'all. That was just something I saw real quick. Switching gears. So, Russell Brand, get him to the Greek actor, comedian. I don't know why he did this, but he was accused of rape and sexual assault in the UK back in 2023. And he's been battling these accusations, which he's denies. But he decided to sit down with Megyn Kelly for the Megyn Kelly show to talk about it. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 10:
[90:43] In Europe and in the United Kingdom, where I'm from, the age of consent is 16. And I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30. But when I was 30, I was a very different person. I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30 year old. Consensual sex, actually, with a variety of people, when there is a strong power differential, as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had that time, I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative. I recognized that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish. And I did not apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people.

Speaker 5:
[91:27] What was the point of that conversation? What was the context?

Speaker 3:
[91:29] Yeah, why did he even bring that up?

Speaker 6:
[91:30] So he's talking to Megyn Kelly on her show. And what she brings up is, at one point, people were listening to, because he also podcasts as well too, people were listening to different things, the different takes that he had during the pandemic. And then there was a documentary that dropped back in 2023. And this documentary went into a conversation about him dating underage women. The documentary that was revealed was an investigation that was done by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4 over in the UK. And it talked about him dating an underage woman. Now this woman, her name, she's known as Alice. She, you know, because there's also allegations at the same time. There's like four plus women who have accused him of different things from rape to, you know, predatory behavior, which he's actually in court for. So he's basically trying to clear this up because Megyn Kelly asked him, you know, we were angry and we upset, we were upset at you. You have some explaining to do basically, like why are these things coming up in you? Like we want to hear from you.

Speaker 5:
[92:27] That's not clearing it up. You know, even when you say the legal age of consent is 16, it's still a matter of, I guess, ethics and morals versus what's legal. Because I would ask, why is the age of consent 16? Like the age of consent should not be 16 anyway. In America in certain states, the age of consent is 16. Why?

Speaker 6:
[92:45] What is it in New York or was it?

Speaker 3:
[92:47] I think 17.

Speaker 5:
[92:47] And I remember that because of the Seinfeld situation.

Speaker 6:
[92:49] Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[92:51] Or Seinfeld was allegedly dating a...

Speaker 5:
[92:53] It wasn't no alleged.

Speaker 3:
[92:54] He was dating a 17 year old?

Speaker 5:
[92:56] He was like 38, 39, dating a 17 year old.

Speaker 3:
[92:58] She was in high school?

Speaker 10:
[93:01] She was 17, yeah. Jesus.

Speaker 5:
[93:02] And people were cool with it?

Speaker 3:
[93:03] Nobody said nothing?

Speaker 5:
[93:04] Because the legal age of consent is 17 in New York.

Speaker 3:
[93:08] That's just not right.

Speaker 5:
[93:09] Once again, it's ethics versus what's legal.

Speaker 6:
[93:12] Yeah, that's what he's trying to argue in a bunch of other things. The interview is now live. And he also talks about consent itself and how celebrity and fame garners you that. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 10:
[93:23] What I'm obviously not only queering, but violently or aggressively or assertively opposing is the idea that this is a judicial criminal matter where consent was overridden. Actually, what happened was consent was directed. That's what being famous and being, if I may say, forgive me, charismatic affords you, is the ability to direct consent. That doesn't mean it's right. It's actually not right. It's wrong. It's a sin. It's an expression of selfishness and false idolatry. I provided a lot of material through my foolishness and my selfishness around women that meant that when I became not a person that was celebrated by the culture as a representative of individualism, hedonism, you're the most important thing in the world, there's no essentially acting like if there is a God, you're it.

Speaker 5:
[94:11] Yeah, the age of consent should be raised because the power dynamic between 16 and 30 is ridiculous. Definitely can manipulate what is considered consent.

Speaker 3:
[94:20] And he was married to Katy Perry too, right? At one point.

Speaker 6:
[94:23] Yes, he was at one point.

Speaker 3:
[94:25] But why don't people dive in to his relationship or like Charlamagne says, Seinfeld's relationship, like they dive into all these other relationships.

Speaker 6:
[94:31] Like, I mean, well, first of all, I feel like the fact that he's white.

Speaker 3:
[94:34] They didn't crucify Seinfeld, the fact that he was dating a teenager.

Speaker 2:
[94:37] Because it was illegal.

Speaker 3:
[94:38] It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:
[94:39] It's still disgusting.

Speaker 5:
[94:41] It's legal. I mean, New York is 17. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2:
[94:46] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[94:46] You're not wrong. But once again, it's a matter of what's legal versus what's ethical. That was crazy. I was considered moral.

Speaker 6:
[94:52] Now, as we... Listen, I don't want to cut you all off by the Russell Brand, but I wanted to switch topics as we wrap. Segway in a bit to bring up the energy. I guess, yeah. Bring up the energy, have a different conversation. Lil Nas X sat down with TS. Madison for Outlaws. And people debate all the time about Lil Nas X's sexuality and if he's really gay. He cleared that up with TS. Madison. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 1:
[95:17] I'm gay, but if something happens, I'm not going to stop myself. You know what I mean? I 99% lean towards men. Yes.

Speaker 3:
[95:26] But you will have sex with a woman.

Speaker 1:
[95:28] I'm not saying I wouldn't. I'm saying if there's a drunk night, I'm having a good time.

Speaker 5:
[95:33] Okay, if something happens.

Speaker 1:
[95:34] And something happens, yeah, maybe. I've had feelings, but they're mostly emotional when it comes to women and not sexual use.

Speaker 5:
[95:42] It made me laugh because Lawrence said, people debate all the time Lil Nas's sexuality.

Speaker 1:
[95:45] They do?

Speaker 5:
[95:46] Yes. I just thought he was gay. People debate all the time LeBron versus Michael Jordan. People debate all the time Kendrick versus Drake. I ain't sitting around like, man, Lil Nas is gay, yo.

Speaker 10:
[95:57] No, he ain't.

Speaker 5:
[95:58] I ain't never had that one.

Speaker 14:
[95:59] A lot of it is people in the community.

Speaker 6:
[96:02] A lot of it is people in the community. They think that it's a gimmick. Let's take a listen to the second clip.

Speaker 1:
[96:07] With how I present myself and how I go about things, a lot of people can see me as very gimmicky. And I don't mind being called those things. I do like to put together gimmicks or schemes or whatnot. I think that makes fun. I can't be the darling girl for a lot of the community who wants me to be this perfect representation of what we look like. I mean, cause that's not even true for anybody. That's not even true for straight people. There is no like, straight person.

Speaker 8:
[96:34] Perfect representation.

Speaker 1:
[96:35] I mean, if anything, I should be the perfect representation cause I'm not perfect. Cause that's very much people pleaser energy. You know what I mean?

Speaker 5:
[96:43] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[96:44] And I want to preface this too. This interview was recorded a year ago. So this was before Little Nas X had the incident where he was walking alongside the road.

Speaker 5:
[96:52] By the way, he's not even, if you want to have a debate, he's not even really like a top five flamboyant gay. Like you don't look at Little Nas X and be like, that's gay.

Speaker 6:
[97:01] He's leaned into it a bit more.

Speaker 5:
[97:02] He's not Liberace out here. He's not Elton John with it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 6:
[97:07] I feel like I wanted to ask you if you're top five, but I don't know if that's right.

Speaker 5:
[97:10] I'm just saying. He ain't boy George with it. See, I'm older, so I'm born in 1978.

Speaker 3:
[97:17] The latest of both two vibes.

Speaker 5:
[97:18] So I feel like I seen top tier flamboyant gays.

Speaker 6:
[97:20] Top tier, top dog, dog.

Speaker 5:
[97:21] I used to work with Wendy Williams. I've seen some gays, all right.

Speaker 3:
[97:24] I'm sure. It's the breakfast club. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Salute to the New York Giants. Today is their draft party. I'm going to be DJing today at her two yards. They have two first round picks.

Speaker 5:
[97:44] Poor guys.

Speaker 3:
[97:44] A sixth pick and a tenth pick, I believe.

Speaker 5:
[97:46] So to those young brothers that's going to make it to the NFL, I'm so sorry that you have to make it to the NFL via the New York Giants.

Speaker 3:
[97:52] That's fine. We have a great squad this year.

Speaker 5:
[97:54] Immediately all your money gone, just taxes, I mean, immediately, tax crazy. Whatever you think you're getting paid, you're a rookie.

Speaker 2:
[98:03] God damn.

Speaker 5:
[98:04] Forty, fifty percent of that gone.

Speaker 3:
[98:05] It don't matter. You're playing for a great team and a great organization. So that's tonight and then tomorrow I'm going to be at Pittsburgh for their draft party. So I'm going to be traveling.

Speaker 2:
[98:14] Go all over the place in the next week.

Speaker 3:
[98:16] Yeah, that's right. And then Saturday, of course, we're in Atlanta for the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

Speaker 5:
[98:20] That's right. Hosted by Envy and Lauren LaRosa. And some of your favorite podcasts are going to be on that stage. Drink Champs and Conversation with Kaye Michelle and CeeLo. Keep it Positive, Sweetie with Crystal Renee Haslett and Young Miami. Carisha, they're going to be on that stage. Jeff Teague with the Club 520 Podcast. A lot of different people, man. Mona with Don't Call Me White Girl. So yeah, we'll see you out there Saturday. Go get your tickets, blackeffect.com/podcastfestival. All right, let me see who else got it. Oh, Dominique Morgan is going to be with Mona on the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast. Stormy Steele is going to be with Carlos King on the Reality with the King podcast.

Speaker 3:
[99:02] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[99:02] So go get your tickets, blackeffect.com/podcastfestival.

Speaker 3:
[99:05] Salute to the legend, the icon, Julius Erving, Dr. J for joining us this morning.

Speaker 5:
[99:09] Let me tell you something, that's one of them interviews that I never ever thought about doing. But boy, when he walked in the room, I'm like, yo, that's Dr. J.

Speaker 3:
[99:17] Let me tell you how stupid Charlamagne is, right? So Dr. J has been on the schedule for a couple of weeks now. Charlamagne had no idea it was the basketball player, Dr. J.

Speaker 5:
[99:24] They just said Julius Erving. No, they said Dr. J. I know, but I'm thinking Julius Erving. When I saw Dr. J, I thought it was my guy, J Barnett, cause we call him Dr. J. You know what I mean? And there's a lot of people who be taking that moniker, Dr. J, and don't be giving it up for the real Dr. J. Never in my mind that I think the actual Dr. J, Julius Erving, would be coming to The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3:
[99:47] I thought about it, I'm like, damn, I could have bought a jersey for him to sign. I mean, he signed a basketball, though.

Speaker 5:
[99:51] I had him send a video to my pops.

Speaker 3:
[99:53] Are you there?

Speaker 5:
[99:54] Yeah. Dr. J, that's a triple OG record.

Speaker 3:
[99:57] Absolutely. All right. And then don't forget, this Tuesday, your book comes out.

Speaker 2:
[100:01] Yes, this Tuesday, my book comes out, so I have a lot of press stops, and I also have Black Writers Weekend. I'll be attending Rutgers University Black Writers Weekend in Newark this Saturday at 4 p.m. And the next Thursday, April 30th, in Brooklyn, New York, Dumbo, I'll be having a book launch for Till Death Do We Parent, which is my co-parent's name.

Speaker 5:
[100:22] Finally, you say the title!

Speaker 2:
[100:23] That is out Tuesday, April 28th. Moderating the conversation is Tee Whitlow from Fox. She's a Fox News anchor. So I'll be, I'm just really excited for it. It's a lot, a lot of work and a lot of press, but welcome to the book world, right? I'm excited for it.

Speaker 3:
[100:38] All right. Well, you got a positive note Charlamagne.

Speaker 5:
[100:40] I do man. We've been talking about morals all morning and I just want to tell y'all that without a moral compass, the human mind will justify anything. Okay. You got to have a moral compass y'all. Have a great day.

Speaker 1:
[100:52] Breakfast Club bitches.

Speaker 13:
[100:53] You don't finish or y'all done.

Speaker 1:
[100:58] Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.