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[00:39] So something's up. These fallen angels, where these women are unusually brazen and seductive, and they caused among the sons of God arousal, this is creepy. And they took, carried away, caught, seized upon them, and made them wives, forced them into the marriage act. The sons of God came into the daughters of mankind, and they bore to them children. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown, references of giants, that the Bible says they have six fingers and six toes.

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[01:46] Hey, everybody, we're back at it. We are looking at the bizarre things between angels fallen and good. What about demons? There's a difference. And we were making our argument for that. And granted, this is stuff that you're never going to hear on a Sunday morning, probably anywhere, for good reason, because it would blow people's minds. Yet it's in the Bible. And so if it's in the Bible, we need to know it. We're talking about now we're going to kind of shift. If you missed the first part of this from last time, go back and check it out and then come on back. Just pause it, go back and look at part one, and then jump back in now back over with us as we're diving in this. Because we're going to pick it up where we left off. We're just getting out of the good, bad angel world. And we introduced a little bit of the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, the days of Noah, what it's going to be like in the last days. There's going to be demonic deception. And we had talked about how in the Sodom and Gomorrah, with the man Lot, two angels appeared. And they seem to be like men to the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact, so much so that the homosexual community wanted to have relationship with these men, but they were actually angels. And you can read Genesis, I believe it's 19 for all of that. Let's dive in. Let's go into this. What's the next step with our progression of this? Genesis 6, verses 1 through 4. Now remember, we're talking angels, both good, angels bad, which are called fallen angels. Gabriel, Michael, good, angel. Lucifer, Satan, bad, fallen angel. Okay? Now Genesis chapter 6. Now it came to pass when men, that is the descendants of Adam, mankind, began to multiply in the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them. By the way, that's an odd statement, isn't it? How do you have a bunch of people being born, and then all of a sudden daughters pop up? That's not what it means. And daughters were born to them. When you go and research that statement, we're talking about women who are definitely, definitely, I would just say, provocative, brazen. They're daughters born to men, mankind, that are conducting themselves outside the norm. They are abnormally seductive, abnormally brazen. What's the result of this? And daughters are born to men. Verse two, that the sons, the result, that the sons of God, Old Testament, always relating to angels. Always, in the Old Testament. Sons of God, Old Testament are angels. That's called, by the way, the expositional constancy of Biblical interpretation, sons of God, Old Testament, angels. It's interesting. New Testament, sons of God, brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. So, so the sons of God saw, the word saw here means that they stared, gazed upon, they, what's the word? Sons of God saw that these women, they, the sons of God stared at them, a goct, that's the word I'm looking for, goct at them, were fixated on their appearance and or conduct. The daughters of men, that they were beautiful, the word in Hebrew is that they were arousing. So something's up. These fallen angels, or maybe they haven't fallen, well, no, no, no, they're fallen, I believe, or at least they fall in this thing, where these women are unusually brazen and seductive, and they caused among the sons of God arousal. This is creepy. Okay? And, where am I? And they took the word lachach, carried away, caught, seized upon them, and made them wives, brought them into submission, forced them into the marriage act. That's what the Bible translates to the word wives, and means much more than cooking, baking cookies. It doesn't mean baking cookies. It means the stuff that comes after baking cookies. For themselves and for all whom they chose, came upon, seized, or stole. And the Lord said, watch God's response. So the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were arousing them, and they seized upon these sons of, or these daughters of, of mankind and captured them to be their intimate partners. So that's, think of this manifestation. Think about this. So it was so radical that God's response is in the next verse. My spirit will not always strive with man, for he is indeed flesh, yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. In other words, in a hundred and twenty years, from what happened, something's going to happen, something's going to come. Next verse. There were giants on the face of the earth in those days. And also afterward, when, think of this, when the sons of God came into the daughters of mankind, men, and they bore to them children, those were mighty men who were of old men of renown. They're also referred to in numerous places in scripture, most famously, Nephilim, Emim, Zemim, Anakim. They all mean the fallen ones, the fallen ones. When a male and a female get together, no matter how bad the relationship is, no women give birth to giants, fallen ones. Remarkable. Deuteronomy, chapter 2, verse 10. The Emim, E-M-I-M, had dwelt there in times past, a people as great and as numerous as the tall of the Anakim. They were also regarded as giants. This is Deuteronomy 3, 10 through 12. Like the Anakim, but the Moabites called them E-M-I-M. The Horoites formerly dwelt in Cyre, but the descendants of Esau dispossessed them and destroyed them from before them, and they dwelt in their place, just as Israel did in the land of their possession or the promised land which the Lord gave them. References of giants, giant, strange people. We know in other parts of scripture that the Bible says they have six fingers and six toes. Let me get rid of this. Continuing on. More on this. I read to you Ezekiel 28. I read to you Isaiah 14 in our previous gathering on part one of this. Check this out. Luke 17, verse 22. Luke, New Testament. Chapter 17, beginning at verse 22. Then Jesus said to his disciples, The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. For they will say to you, Look here or look there, do not believe them, and do not go out and follow them. For as lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven unto the other part of heaven, so also shall the coming of the Son of Man be in his day. But first he must suffer many things and be rejected of this generation. And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it also be in the days of the Son of Man. They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage until the day that Noah entered the ark and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise, as it was also in the days of Lot, they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built. But on the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so, it will be in the day when the Son of Man, that's Jesus Christ, is revealed. The days of Sodom and Gomorrah and the days of Lot know all that stuff. They have a lot of things to describe them of and to define them of. But Jesus says in the last days it's going to be like that. But what was going on in the days of Lot? Bizarre sexuality and what was going on in the days of Noah? Bizarre sexuality again. Homosexuality in one part and what the Bible calls the going after strange flesh in the other. It's very, very remarkable. I'm going to save this particular thing for the end. You say, Jack, I've never heard this stuff before. I know, but listen. The reason why you never heard it before is because either you read parts of the Bible and you forgot or you were not taught about the difference between angels and demons. Watch this. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, they did not stay within their confines or the parameters for which they were created, but left their dwelling place. He, God, has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Wow. Interesting. Verse 7. Jude, chapter 1, verse 6 and verse 7. As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in similar manner like these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. So Jesus said, in the last days, it's going to be like Sodom and Gomorrah. Jude tells us one of the defining prominent sins is that there was something of strange flesh that is being consumed, if I can put it to you that way. Genesis 6 verse 1, as I read earlier, listen to this. Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply in the face of the earth, remember that, that daughters were born to them, that sons of God saw that the daughters of men, that they were beautiful, and they took them to be their wives of all they chose. And the Lord said to them, my spirit will not always strive with man forever, for indeed his flesh, yet his day shall be 120. There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore to them children, those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. So I read that portion to you twice for context. Watch what we have here. Jesus said, regarding the demons, remember the man that I mentioned earlier, the demoniac who was possessed in Gadara, the demons said out of that possessed man, Jesus, we know who you are. Have you come to torment us before the time? And Jesus said, what is your name? And out of the man's mouth came what is probably the sound of the collective voices, Legion. The name is Legion, for we are many. And they make a strange request of Jesus. Whatever is inside of this man, this demon host, they said, will you send us into those pigs right there? Will you send us into those demons? I mean into those those pigs right there? And Jesus grants them their request. Why? Because the time had not yet come for their damnation. But Jesus delivers the man, but the demons go right into the pigs. Stop right here. Nowhere in the Bible do we see angels, holy or fallen, having the need to possess people, things, statues, idols, or animals. But we do see this of demons. Okay, listen, a demon is always looking for a place to live. It seems as though they need to be invited in, though. It appears that they need to be invited. Open door could be pornography, could be drugs, could be the paranormal, it could be witchcraft, white craft, it could be the delving into things like necromancy and Satanism of various types. It doesn't matter, it's an entry. It appears that when people open themselves up to things that are forbidden by God, demons come in through that door into people's lives. And according to the scripture, demons, whenever they're inhabiting a person, certainly we see this in the four Gospels, the demons are referred to as exactly that, demons, not angels, not sons of God, but demons. Here's my take. The Bible says that there were giants in the land before the flood and after the flood. Fallen ones, I should say. They don't have to be giants, but in this case, they are, because that's the need. The key is Nephilim, fallen ones. If the Bible says that they were in the world before the flood and after the flood, before the flood, when the flood came, what happened? Everything died. Where did the giants, where did they go when they died? If the sons of God were angels and they fell by having sexual union with mortal women, human women, and the children born to them were anomalies, they were unusual men of renown. They had six fingers and six toes on each foot and hand. They were huge. Archaeology, by the way, proves this. In, well, I'm trying to think of a word. Gamla. You can look this up. Google it. The tombstones or the sarcophagus, plural, in Gamla, in the Golan Heights. Go look at them. Why would somebody have coffins that are 14 feet long? You can go. You can actually go there. You can actually see them. You can touch them. It's an amazing place. Gamla. That said, if angels had sex with humans, and the human women gave birth to these strange Goliath type of people, Anakim, sons of Anak, which Goliath was one of those, when they die, where do they go? Where do their spirit, where do they go? When their body dies, if they're not fully angel, and they're not fully human, spiritually speaking, their body dies. Their body was swept away in the flood. Where does their soul go? There are oddities, to say the least. And yet the Bible warns us, they were in the world before, because of the union between the sons of God and the daughters of men. They were in the world before the flood, from Genesis 6 forward. And that must have happened again, after the flood, because it says there were Nephilim fallen ones that entered the world a second time after the flood. See Jack, that's insane. Call it what you want. But the Bible says they were there before the flood and after the flood. When they die, where do they go? Spiritually speaking, what is their spiritual destination? I believe this is my personal take. Because angels in the Bible were created by God, and some angels fell, they're still called fallen angels. People will like to try to describe demons as fallen angels, but it's not consistent. Demons seem to be weaker than fallen angels. Fallen angels seem to appear and disappear, like good angels can appear and disappear. The Bible tells us in the Book of Hebrews, be careful how you treat strangers, because without knowing, you could be speaking to an angel and not know it. Wow! Demons seem to need a statue, an animal, or a human to possess, to make a home. And Jesus said, when a demon leaves a man, he goes out looking for another place to live and wanders through waterless places. Why did Jesus say that? Go look it up. Jesus said, demons, when they leave a man, will go look for other hosts in waterless places. It seems to me that they're terrified of water. The pigs ran into the Sea of Galilee, and the pigs drowned. So now these demons lost their possessed hosts. Where did they go? The giants, then fallen ones, were swept away in the flood. When their bodies died, where did those souls' spirits go? After the flood, it continued on. Where have those spirits been going? I believe that when these human hybrids die, I believe that explains the spirit of demons, the demon spirit. I don't believe demons are fallen angels. I believe demons are some sort of suborder of malevolent powers that are described or can be described as the souls of those hybrids. But I don't believe they're fallen angels. Of course, we don't know how many. But isn't it wild that the book of Daniel tells us, and this is where we'll start to end here, Daniel chapter 2 verses 42 and 43 talks about the future, the future from today. This is not in the past. As the toes of the feet, the image, were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. Daniel was shown a vision of the last world governing empire before the return of Christ. This will manifest, by the way, during the Tribulation period. As you saw, iron mixed with ceramic clay, they personal pronoun, not it, they will mingle, they will reconnect, they will weave with the seed of man. But they will not adhere to one another, just like, watch, just like iron doesn't mix with clay. One thing we know for sure right now, we're not talking about iron and clay not mixing. He says, just like iron and clay do not mix together and stay connected, neither will those who reconnect with the seed of man be able to hold it all together. It's going to happen again. Will there be giants? I don't think so. I don't think there'll be giants, but they will be Nephilim. They will be fallen ones. But maybe they'll be fallen, and they'll be expert in not building pyramids or not building Stonehenge or not building Easter Island or not building, you name it, weird things. What if they manifest themselves in the last days as beyond brilliant politicians who bring about a governing world empire, brilliant theologians that bring about a one world church, a one world worship system? What about them being brilliant enough to pull off a one world currency, Revelation 13 13? What about these things? What about if they appeared as giants, the Nephilim as giants in the days when giants for war, ask David and Goliath, giants to do extraordinary things that caused them to be men of renown, giants who David's mighty men of valor had names for them in the Bible in my name and killed them? Strange, odd, beans. Where even I think it's 1st and 2nd Samuel could be 1st and 2nd Kings. Forgive me. But among David's mighty men of valor, one of the guys is given a, so to speak, a combat award for having killed 2 men who were lion-like men. And David's soldier killed them both. Very strange stuff. Don't know if we have the answers exactly. For me right now, my theology is this. There's good angels, and there's bad angels. God created all angels good, some angels went bad. So bad that some of them went after unsanctioned flesh, not permitted, not allowed, strange flesh. The result were men of renown, giants who lived in the earth, six fingers, six toes, massive in height, exceeding nine feet tall, easily, Goliath. Evidence? The tombs in Israel, the sarcophaguses of those that were somehow inhabiting the region of the northern Golan or Golani in the area of Gamla. Guess what? In the area of Golan, in your Old Testament, it tells you that giants lived in that region, as well as Gaza in the Old Testament, as well as Gath and Esh-Dahd. Remarkable. So I wanted to bring this up because you wanted to bring it up. I made mention of some of these things some time back, and we had an overwhelming response of you guys asking for more and being more in-depth. It's impossible for me to go in-depth. I can only tell you right now that I've given you enough to get you started. So here's the wrap-up. Go research the sons of God in the Old Testament, and you're going to need to be, listen, you're going to need to be discerning. Don't ask Wikipedia. That's for lame brains. Don't do that. That's lazy. That's for lazy people. You've got to get into some books, and you've got to read various ones, because you're going to hear various interpretations, which is fine. You've got to pick one that's most consistent with the Bible. For example, you are going to be told by some scholars, though I don't care about their names, their logic makes no sense. They will say things like this, well, it's no big deal. The sons of God, they were the holy, happy, godly descendants of Seth. And the daughters of men, those were promiscuous women. And the descendants of Seth, they back sled, and they had sex with these promiscuous girls who were brazenly, around, you know, what's the word? Attractive or seductive. And they had babies. Happens every day. Really? When somebody's back slidden has sex with somebody who's not a Christian, and they have babies that are born giants with six fingers and six toes, that are nine feet tall, when they grow up, I don't think so. Last time, I saw an unbeliever get together with a believer in sex and have a baby. I didn't see any weirdos come out. So that's a strange description. It's a strange excuse that doesn't work. And yet you're going to hear great, great scholars say that. It just doesn't work. It's not consistent. Makes no sense. I want to comment to you a guy by the name of... Oh, I hope I got this right. Robert Gauvet. G-O-V-E-T-T. I think it's Robert Gauvet. Charles Spurgeon loved reading Gauvet. And maybe you can find it as a PDF. It's hard to find. I own a copy, but maybe you can find the PDF. It is Robert Gauvet. Again, if I get the first name wrong, look up G-O-V-E-T-T. Gauvet. Dissertation on the Nephilim. It was written, I do believe, somewhere around maybe like 1812, 1820.

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[32:35] It's in his Isaiah Commentary.

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[32:38] It is found in the back end of Gauvet's Isaiah Commentary, his great commentary, by the way, on the Book of Isaiah. At the end, a particular publisher inserted his dissertation on the giants. Go check it out. It's pretty reliable stuff. Anyway, I've given you enough. We're out of time. Know the truth. Stay in your Bible. Follow Jesus Christ. Know the Word of God. I go like this, in here. Watch out where you go to church. When you go to church, have your Bible open. Judge everything you're hearing from the pulpit. And no matter what you hear from the pulpit, read your Bible for yourself. There's no excuses. I don't care if you're a pastor or a brother of Satan. Whatever that guy is saying, you should be the one judging what he's talking about from reading the Bible yourself. Don't be deceived. Don't be deceived. The truth will be your greatest defense against deception. Stay tuned until next time. May the Lord Jesus Christ come. Amen. God bless. See ya.

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