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Speaker 1:
[00:16] That's the extent of my Spanish. I can't really speak much of it.
Speaker 2:
[00:21] I wish I spoke better. I actually spoke better Spanish when I was younger.
Speaker 3:
[00:25] More cerveza, por favor?
Speaker 1:
[00:28] Have you ever thought about doing one of those...
Speaker 2:
[00:29] Donde es el baño, por favor? Do it.
Speaker 3:
[00:32] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[00:33] You ever thought about doing one of those like, what are they called? And I want to say Udemy, but it's not, it's somebody else. There's a...
Speaker 3:
[00:39] Rosetta Stone or something?
Speaker 1:
[00:40] Duolingo or whatever. The courses where you learn a language like...
Speaker 3:
[00:45] Edit that out. We're not being paid by them.
Speaker 2:
[00:47] Oh, yeah. Okay. We'll invoice them. I mean, I've thought about it, but I have members of my family that speak Spanish, so it's like... Or I can just hang out with them more.
Speaker 1:
[00:59] It's when they look at you, then look at somebody else and they both speak Spanish together and you know they're talking about you, Brian. That's why you need to...
Speaker 2:
[01:08] This is the beauty of AI. All you have to do is have it listen and you can translate it real quick on spot.
Speaker 1:
[01:14] Real quick maybe, but yeah. I had an AI story for you, but I wasn't going to share it because we're not supposed to talk about it, but...
Speaker 2:
[01:23] You know what George Washington said about that?
Speaker 1:
[01:27] He definitely made lots of statements about AI, Brian.
Speaker 3:
[01:29] He said, I'm hammered and we're crossing that river.
Speaker 1:
[01:33] I read a story this week about, and I think it was Claude shutting down an entire company just like that. Like literally it was like... What do you mean close? So there was a company that was using Claude to make money. Now, I don't know how, whether it was making reports or whether it was gaming the stock markets. Maybe it was inside of trading, a little bit too close to home. But whatever it was doing, it overused whatever limits there were on Claude. And Claude just arbitrarily went, you've broken the terms of our agreement, so we're shutting you down completely. And this business had like 60 employees and it's just gone like instantly. No, much like Facebook, no real way of kind of like talking to a human and making it come back anytime soon. There's like an email box that you send an email to, so.
Speaker 2:
[02:32] I can't, it still floors me that companies can have a business that runs like that.
Speaker 3:
[02:38] It's interesting, right? Cause like nobody in consumer products can get away with that. Not one company.
Speaker 2:
[02:44] No one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[02:45] Well, you say that Blake and Brian, but this week I have launched my new Oil of the Snake Company. It's a special oil that is derived only from the finest tone snakes. And if you rub it into your scalp and your fretboard, your hair will turn to guitar strings overnight.
Speaker 2:
[03:11] I'm missing my oil.
Speaker 3:
[03:13] Where's my oil?
Speaker 2:
[03:15] I mean, how much customer service issues can you have with something like that, though? None, because it's a perfect product.
Speaker 3:
[03:24] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:24] It basically sells itself. I mean, it obviously works, you know.
Speaker 3:
[03:28] What do we need a customer service department for? Our product is perfect.
Speaker 2:
[03:32] Right.
Speaker 1:
[03:33] Said no company ever.
Speaker 2:
[03:35] Except for Facebook and apparently Anthropic.
Speaker 1:
[03:38] Well, yeah. I mean, again, we live in new and rapidly changing times, gentlemen.
Speaker 2:
[03:45] I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1:
[03:47] I don't like it.
Speaker 2:
[03:49] I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1:
[03:52] We've got Martinville Brian with us this week.
Speaker 3:
[03:54] This whole country's gone state to hell.
Speaker 1:
[03:57] I mean, maybe. Yeah. So that happened. Anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about the tone, the chase and the new gear. And there is some new gear. I'm happy to report.
Speaker 3:
[04:13] New gear? I love new gear.
Speaker 1:
[04:16] Do you?
Speaker 3:
[04:16] I do.
Speaker 1:
[04:17] How much?
Speaker 3:
[04:18] I built a whole shed for it.
Speaker 2:
[04:20] Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3:
[04:20] That's a lot.
Speaker 1:
[04:22] I bought some new gear this week, but not guitar gear. So we won't talk about it. And also, not steroids.
Speaker 2:
[04:31] So, welcome to the Chasing Muscle Podcast. Today, we're going to talk about bench pressing and dead lifting and squatting.
Speaker 1:
[04:40] Oh, I will talk a little bit about the bench pressing and the dead lifting.
Speaker 2:
[04:44] Can we talk about Strymon first, maybe?
Speaker 1:
[04:47] How about... Screw those guys. You are right on the creatine. That's helped me, definitely. I'm bulked in all kinds of areas. So, Strymon have released a two knob fuzz, which are words that I did not expect to be saying this week. And it may have been leaked, but I saw a video from... I think it was Jason Mays who put out a video. So, I'm guessing it's not really a leak anymore.
Speaker 3:
[05:14] Yeah, maybe it got leaked. Well, this is nine hours ago. So, a lot of most people in the US were asleep at that point. So, I guess maybe it kind of got leaked. That happens sometimes, right? Right, guys?
Speaker 1:
[05:26] Oh, it's been known to happen.
Speaker 3:
[05:29] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[05:29] It always happens whenever like we're sleeping, you know, and then it's a critical accident. Sorry, sorry about that.
Speaker 3:
[05:40] I don't want to be this guy, but I'm going to be this guy for just a minute. So, when I was at NAMM, and I think I've told you guys this off the mic, but now I'm going to tell the audience.
Speaker 2:
[05:50] Oh, man.
Speaker 3:
[05:50] I went to this thing that was, it was basically a dealer event. It was really fun. We had a good time. And they had some dealers doing presentations. And one of the things the dealers said that brands could do for them is be better about letting them know ahead of time with product releases. Totally understand their perspective on that. I agree that that would be easier for them if they did have more advanced notice. But as a slight counter, I will argue, every time a product is leaked, maybe not every time, but 80% of the time, when a product is leaked early, it's because a dealer listed it before they were supposed to. Right.
Speaker 1:
[06:34] 99 and 100%.
Speaker 2:
[06:36] And it's never the dealer, it's always somewhat like their web guy or something that, oops, accidentally put it online.
Speaker 3:
[06:43] And I get it, there's a lot of moving parts, there's a lot of things going on, I'm not even really blaming anybody, I understand how it happens. The only reason I said that is because in this Reddit post where it says New Strymon leak, it is clearly from a European dealer.
Speaker 1:
[06:57] Okay, yeah. I mean, again, time zones seem to confuse everybody. We put on our releases in big bold lettering, do not release this normally before 9am EST. And what 9am EST translates to, roughly 8 to 10am wherever you are in the world, even if you're 24 hours advance of us. So it's always a fun time, but yeah, leaks happen. However, we cannot take away from the fact that Strymon have just released a Silicon Fuzz pedal.
Speaker 3:
[07:33] Yeah, let's not get too distracted with the particulars of the release. This is not what I had on my 2026 Bingo card.
Speaker 2:
[07:43] I saw it and I thought, this looks like a Ross pedal. Kind of. Kind of looks like a Ross. Two knobs and a switch.
Speaker 1:
[07:51] Which I think is kudos to both, in a way.
Speaker 2:
[07:53] I'm not saying it's terrible. I'm saying it's not what I would expect from Strymon.
Speaker 1:
[07:58] No, I did see someone comment on $229 for a Silicon Fuzz. I'm like, pretty sure the Purple Omfuz isn't far off that. But I'm a small boutique guy.
Speaker 2:
[08:10] But I mean, that goes right back to the, well, it's only a handful of components. Alright, well then, go straight to guitarpedalcourse.com, learn how to build pedals, and you can build your own fuzz for, yeah, the price of components. That's very true.
Speaker 1:
[08:23] Or go to olivereffects.co.uk and buy one. Although they're still not made yet. Blake, would you like to get a plug-in now while we're here?
Speaker 3:
[08:33] Maybe Strings. Oh, there you go, stringsjoy.com.
Speaker 1:
[08:37] Sorry, listeners. That was not planned. I just want to say.
Speaker 2:
[08:41] So, I mean, I'm looking at a Reddit thread. The number one comment is, big news for dentists.
Speaker 1:
[08:50] I did see somebody, and I don't know whether this was a trolling post, but on one of the forums today, someone put a post up and it was an all Strymon basically pedal board, except I think it had a Canvas tuner on it and a couple of other dirt pedals and they were like, I gave this pedal board to my friend's daughter and she doesn't want to play it in her indie band.
Speaker 2:
[09:12] Why?
Speaker 1:
[09:13] And I'm looking at it going, well, probably because it's an insurance risk for this. There's like six grand of pedals on that there pedal board. But it is interesting that Strymon are still considered to be the BMW of pedals. Sure, you know, they're high quality, they're really beautiful, but a lot of people will throw you hate if you use one. In the same way, if you own a BMW in this country, people will go, did you know it comes with a turn indicator? It's an optional extra. Oh, geez.
Speaker 3:
[09:53] It's a subscription based service these days, actually.
Speaker 1:
[09:55] It probably is, right? But don't even laugh, Brian, nearly everything in their cars is.
Speaker 2:
[10:01] I mean, that's a good idea. What we could do is we could have knobs on pedals, but to use the knobs, you had to pay for a subscription.
Speaker 1:
[10:07] Oh, Brian, I like where you're going.
Speaker 2:
[10:11] You know, I'm just trying to make a buck here. That's all.
Speaker 3:
[10:17] Listen, if you don't want to pay $229 for a fuzz pedal, listen, we can charge you a hundred bucks, but you're going to be $15 a month to use it.
Speaker 1:
[10:27] This pedal gets louder every time you use it, unless you buy a software add-on for it. So you just can't control the volume.
Speaker 2:
[10:37] We can charge you for just the price of the components. That's totally fine. There is a subscription fee associated with turning it on and off and turning it off.
Speaker 3:
[10:49] That is, unfortunately, the way some auto manufacturers are going.
Speaker 1:
[10:53] That is, and actually in the pedal world, it'd be like, I mean, you can have zero latency if you want, but you're going to have to pay us for it. So otherwise, you've got five milliseconds of latency for every dime you don't pay me.
Speaker 2:
[11:06] All those levels, there's like, do you want the professional level or do you want like the intermediate level or the starter package?
Speaker 1:
[11:13] Adobe, is that you?
Speaker 2:
[11:14] Yeah, the starter package is 30 milliseconds of latency. For the professional, you know.
Speaker 3:
[11:21] So what you're telling me is it's a free delay pedal.
Speaker 2:
[11:24] Basically, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[11:27] 30 milliseconds is perfect for double tracking.
Speaker 2:
[11:30] That's pretty much double tracking territory.
Speaker 1:
[11:33] And I think the conversation here has just illustrated. I feel we offer the most insightful analysis of modern effects pedals in the podcasting world. I am now so well versed in the capabilities of Strymon's new fuzz.
Speaker 3:
[11:52] Yeah, people know so much more about it now than they did five minutes ago.
Speaker 2:
[11:56] To be fair though, I've seen a lot of people who are getting tired of like the pedal demo where companies send in pedals to a YouTuber and they basically demo it and talk about how great it is and there you go. So we're not doing that. We're just talking everything that has nothing to do with the pedal, you know? Like literally nothing that is going on inside of the Strymon like.
Speaker 3:
[12:22] It's fair that we don't really know. We just know it's too not fuzz.
Speaker 2:
[12:26] Right.
Speaker 3:
[12:27] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[12:27] And ultimately we just like making fun of things.
Speaker 1:
[12:30] So yes, we are what you would call goofballs in your country, I believe.
Speaker 2:
[12:36] But yes, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:
[12:37] It looks lovely. But if it's a too knob fuzz, I do worry because that is the magic number of knobs is a minimum of three for me. If there isn't, you know, volume gain and tone, then I'm limited.
Speaker 3:
[12:54] And what about one big knob?
Speaker 1:
[12:57] I mean, someone shouted at me once, but yeah.
Speaker 2:
[13:03] I think that's an ongoing thing on the internet for me anyways.
Speaker 1:
[13:07] With my neighbors. But no, I mean, I know, Brian, famously you are-
Speaker 2:
[13:13] One big knob?
Speaker 1:
[13:16] No. Famously you are the guy that likes to add a three band EQ to a traditional kind of topology and get the most out of it that way. But removing EQ seems seems brave.
Speaker 2:
[13:31] I mean, so to me, like I look at this, I'm like, okay, so it's a tone, bend, re, fuzz, face type of thing, right? Okay. And I mean, I'm sure Strymon has done really, you know, done a great job with it, but it doesn't excite me. In the same way that if I would like, I don't do that either. That's why I don't do two knob fuzz pedals, because that doesn't excite me. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3:
[14:13] Rich! Majestic! Utterly glorious! Claim yours now at oliverfx.co.uk That's O-L-I-V-E-R-F-X.co.uk Your pedalboard demands it. The British King of Fuzz insists.
Speaker 1:
[14:42] No, I do like the design. I like what they've done with that kind of black plate on the top there, which is like, I don't know, it's got like Allen Key bolts, bolting it down.
Speaker 3:
[14:53] That looks cool. Kind of an industrial vibe.
Speaker 2:
[14:56] Absolutely, yeah. It looks cool, man. I dig it.
Speaker 1:
[14:59] Canoga sounds a little bit like a cannabis travel firm. It sounds like the kind of place you would go if you were visiting Jamaica.
Speaker 3:
[15:12] Canoga. I believe it is the area of California. I don't know if it's the city or...
Speaker 1:
[15:17] Well, that's consistent.
Speaker 3:
[15:19] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[15:19] Sounds like a river you would canoe down. I went down to Canoga River. We were on our kayaks. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:
[15:27] I was fly fishing the Canoga the other day and I got me a large mouth bass.
Speaker 2:
[15:32] Exactly. Other than that, what else can we talk about that has nothing to do with the pedal? It doesn't have three knobs.
Speaker 3:
[15:39] I think it would make a great golf ball. I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[15:45] It doesn't run off of solar power, so there's that.
Speaker 3:
[15:49] Right. I don't think it's mechanical either. It's not like a Swiss watch.
Speaker 2:
[15:54] That's right.
Speaker 3:
[15:54] It gets powered by electricity.
Speaker 2:
[15:57] It doesn't have a winder on the back of it, that's true.
Speaker 3:
[16:01] I thought I could see anyway.
Speaker 2:
[16:02] What else is completely irrelevant information we can provide here?
Speaker 3:
[16:05] You can't connect an ethernet cable to it.
Speaker 2:
[16:08] Good point.
Speaker 3:
[16:09] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[16:10] Let's see.
Speaker 3:
[16:11] I can. Oh, Richard can. Well, you're a man of technology. I am.
Speaker 1:
[16:15] I can connect an ethernet cable to anything.
Speaker 3:
[16:18] Cat 5 or Cat 6?
Speaker 1:
[16:20] 6E.
Speaker 3:
[16:21] 6E. Okay, good.
Speaker 1:
[16:23] I know, I'm calling you sexy.
Speaker 3:
[16:24] Fast speeds.
Speaker 1:
[16:25] Oh. Yeah, I mean, people are saying it could be a fuzz face. I mean, it could be a fuzz face. It could be a tone bender. They're all in the same basic family, but, right. Again, I'll go the other way with fuzz.
Speaker 2:
[16:44] What if it's a Distortion Plus, though, which is kind of fuzzy. It has a, I mean, they call their game portion drive.
Speaker 1:
[16:52] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[16:54] But I don't think I'd call that a fuzz.
Speaker 1:
[16:58] Well, if only there was some kind of authority on fuzz on this podcast.
Speaker 3:
[17:03] What if we like, it would be cool if we like watched a video before we talked about it.
Speaker 1:
[17:07] Don't be silly.
Speaker 3:
[17:08] Oh, sorry.
Speaker 2:
[17:09] It's so much funner.
Speaker 3:
[17:10] It's about research.
Speaker 2:
[17:11] It's so much more fun just speculating on what it's not.
Speaker 3:
[17:15] Yeah, let's look at the screen grab on Reddit and just talk about it.
Speaker 2:
[17:18] Right.
Speaker 1:
[17:19] That's my methodology. Look, I haven't forgiven Strymon yet for releasing the Olivera oil can delay. That's IP infringement right there. Come on, Strymon, take me on. I've got lawyers. Strymon, do not take me on. I have no lawyers. If you take me on, you will win. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[17:39] We're going to have to extradite you from the UK first.
Speaker 1:
[17:42] Yeah. Good luck with that. I'll write something mean on social media and then they won't be allowed to extradite me.
Speaker 3:
[17:48] Oh my goodness. Not something mean on social media.
Speaker 1:
[17:51] It's what all the kids are doing these days.
Speaker 3:
[17:53] It's a terrible thing. Terrible thing to do.
Speaker 1:
[17:55] It is a terrible thing to do. So another bit of gear that crossed my screen this week and made me go, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, is the new Marshall limited edition Jcm 800 half stack to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Sex Pistols seminal album, Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols.
Speaker 3:
[18:22] I had the exact same reaction. No, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, yes, no.
Speaker 1:
[18:29] Overall, it's a Jcm 800. Of course, what's not to love. But also, I like the pink and yellow. But I don't like the Sex Pistols branding on it. I'm funny about artist branding on musical instruments. It's a bit like every day and then I wear a football t-shirt and my wife says to me, you do realize you're a grown man of 50 years old. Like you're cosplaying a footballer when you put on a football shirt. And I feel like when I'm using an artist's signature gear and I'm not that artist, I'm cosplaying that artist a little bit.
Speaker 2:
[19:06] I do, unless it's like Brent Mason or Andy Wood or Corey Wong or Tom Quill or, you know, unless it's someone like that.
Speaker 3:
[19:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[19:15] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[19:16] Again, Brad Paisley.
Speaker 2:
[19:17] Brad Paisley. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[19:18] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[19:19] Pedals cost 200 bucks, Bri. And you can have several of them. These amps are multi, like this is, I suppose, yes, you have caught me very wisely with my transgression, but this is a lot of money to spend cosplaying, you know? I mean, I guess a lot of people have a lot of money. Hey, look, I guess I'm just an idiot. And this is fine for people who like it. It's not for me, but I like pink and yellow.
Speaker 2:
[19:44] Is it only aesthetic or is there an actual tonal difference?
Speaker 3:
[19:48] I think it's just an aesthetic change, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:
[19:51] Hard pass. Thanks anyways, though. Now, if we did a 21 version.
Speaker 3:
[19:59] It's worth noting that these are some British made Marshalls, so it's not their cheaper line, which I guess it better not be at the price these are probably going to come in. So that's cool. Um, I, you know, punk is a funny thing, right? As much as it wants to be this non-commercial, going against the man thing, even the Sex Pistols themselves, don't get mad at me, but they were created to sell clothing.
Speaker 1:
[20:29] They were the world's first properly manufactured boy band.
Speaker 3:
[20:33] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[20:33] But also one of the greatest punk bands ever and hugely influential.
Speaker 3:
[20:36] Oh, I love the music. I absolutely do. But there's a lot of double-speak going on.
Speaker 1:
[20:41] I'm definitely going to dig my hole a little deeper here, Brian, because if you're using a signature pedal and getting a signature sound, like I say, no one in front of you, if you're playing to an audience, can see that. And so you're just getting a good sound. If you're taking this half stack or full stack on stage, people will look at you and go, you're not the Sex Pistols, why are you playing this gigantic Sex Pistols amp? Or I just think it's literally for the dentists and lawyers out there who are of an age, maybe in their 60s, remember when it came out the first time and they've got the money to spend on having some cool looking gear in their studio. And I'm fine with that, it's not for me, but I don't think you can take something like this on the stage, I think it's too big and too garish.
Speaker 3:
[21:28] What if you didn't play punk though? What if you were...
Speaker 1:
[21:33] Jazz.
Speaker 3:
[21:34] Yeah, if you're a jazz musician, or maybe even like John Mayer and you brought this on stage, then it kind of works, I think.
Speaker 1:
[21:42] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[21:43] Because it's punk in the way that you're using it in some sort of way.
Speaker 1:
[21:47] I like what you did there.
Speaker 3:
[21:49] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[21:50] I've been schooled by both of you in the stage, like 10 minutes phase, like you've both made me feel stupid, but you're right. The most punk thing to do would be to get up and play jazz through this.
Speaker 3:
[22:02] I would love to see somebody play jazz through this. It would be hilarious.
Speaker 2:
[22:07] I mean, I'm thinking of some chicken picking through it.
Speaker 3:
[22:10] Chicken picking. Let's get Brent Mason playing through the Sex Pistols hashtag. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1:
[22:17] Yeah. And add a BC Rich Warlock just for...
Speaker 2:
[22:21] And there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[22:25] I've just looked at the notes and there's an Anonymous Chameleon icon at the top of it. What?
Speaker 3:
[22:31] An anonymous chameleon?
Speaker 2:
[22:33] What?
Speaker 3:
[22:34] What are you talking about? I don't see it.
Speaker 1:
[22:35] I think it might be Brian, but he's coming out as Anonymous Chameleon.
Speaker 2:
[22:39] You know, it's probably... It is. It's me. Sorry. I haven't signed into it. Okay.
Speaker 1:
[22:47] I quite like who is Anonymous Chameleon.
Speaker 2:
[22:50] No, not incognito, just in not signed in. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1:
[22:55] We had enough of the crudeness last week with all our sofa-based jokes, Brian. I notice you've covered the sofa with amplifiers now to stop for the joking.
Speaker 2:
[23:05] Actually, so that wasn't because of the podcast. That was because we were filming last week.
Speaker 3:
[23:10] So you did a little reorganization of your new office space, I take it.
Speaker 2:
[23:15] Yes, because this was for some of Travis' stuff.
Speaker 1:
[23:18] I see.
Speaker 3:
[23:20] I'm about 50% through reorganizing the shred shed right now. Really? Yeah, it's been quite a project. It probably kind of looks like the same behind me. But if you look, we've got the new string swing.
Speaker 1:
[23:33] I was going to say, there's more guitars per square inch up there.
Speaker 3:
[23:37] Yep. I had to take basically everything you see behind me. It's like there's a line drawn down the middle of the shred shed. This is totally by accident, where this half that you can see is clean and organized. And the half that you can't see is pure chaos. I haven't got to that half yet, but we're working on it. We're getting there. But I had to take every amp except for maybe like three out onto the porch this weekend, clean all the dust bunnies out. Yeah, and behind it. And I figured like, while I'm doing that, I might as well set them up like sun. And then, yes, it was quite a project. I worked on it quite a while. You forget how long this... When you bring an amp in one at a time, it doesn't really feel like anything. And then when you got to haul them all out, you're like, wow, I'm an idiot. I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[24:27] You're like, how did I get so many amps? Yes.
Speaker 3:
[24:31] Yeah, I'm a moron. I should not be buying this much stuff. But am I going to continue to do it? Absolutely.
Speaker 1:
[24:37] I would hope so. Well, while we're on the subject of heavy amps, a well-known and respected artist, a musical artist, was talking to me this week.
Speaker 3:
[24:51] I was talking to you earlier this week.
Speaker 1:
[24:53] Yeah, you were. And so was this other chap. Oh. And he was like, why hasn't anyone ever made a true stereo head? And I said to him, I said, well, most likely, because it would need to be essentially two mono heads in one chassis, and it would be bleeding heavy with all those transformers. But it did make me wonder why no one had made a pure stereo head. I think people have before. There is a diesel one, and it's about four or five grand. And there's one or two others, but it's certainly not something that every manufacturer has. What's your guys, what are your takes on that, I should say?
Speaker 3:
[25:36] The creation music company, The Eclipse. It's been out for a while. They're not as known for amps. They like bought an amp company back in the day. They still make them and they're still available, but they're not as known. I played The Eclipse when they first brought it to NAMM, and it was brilliant. And it's a true stereo amp, which is, you know, it is basically two amps in one. That is essentially what it is.
Speaker 1:
[25:59] But this then dovetailed on from my conversation last week, and just some food for thought for you, Brian. What if it was two lunchbox size amps? Wouldn't that make one regular size head almost?
Speaker 2:
[26:13] I mean, so there's good sides and downsides to that. Most people are going to want to use mono because that's what most stages are. Like usually, you know, if you're playing in a club, you're probably not playing in stereo. But another thing is that, like you said, it's twice as expensive, twice as heavy, you need twice as many cabs, and ultimately it's only for you. And at that point, you might as well just use a modeler. Call it a day.
Speaker 1:
[26:45] I mean, yes, but there are guitarists out there that really want this because I spoke to at least two in the world.
Speaker 2:
[26:56] Definitely not anecdotal, so.
Speaker 1:
[26:58] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[26:59] Yeah, I mean, here's what I would do.
Speaker 1:
[27:01] Brian, have you been taking the sharpness powder again?
Speaker 2:
[27:06] The who? The what?
Speaker 1:
[27:08] The sharpness powder.
Speaker 2:
[27:10] Oh, oh, oh.
Speaker 1:
[27:12] Yeah, you've been cutting across me like a katana, my friend. Yeah, every time I say something, you put me down so well.
Speaker 2:
[27:21] I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:
[27:22] You should be a professional comedian. No, no, I love it.
Speaker 2:
[27:25] No, I don't mean to. I really don't. No, what do you mean to? Listen, I've had a rough day, you know, there's some things going on that I just, I don't know, I'm not meaning to.
Speaker 3:
[27:37] Listen, I do it because I care. Okay.
Speaker 2:
[27:42] Yeah. I'm doing it because you're an idiot.
Speaker 1:
[27:46] We have established this.
Speaker 3:
[27:49] So I think there is a use case for it, but it's specific.
Speaker 1:
[27:52] That's slim.
Speaker 2:
[27:53] I've always just taken two amps, you know, because it's about like, it's going to be about the same price if you get a stereo amp, because you need two of everything, two literally of everything.
Speaker 1:
[28:04] Two transformers, two sets of tubes.
Speaker 3:
[28:08] This creation one for the head, it's not cheap. Don't get me wrong, but it's currently listed at 17.99. So, I mean, depending on what kind of amp you're buying, that's in the ballpark of some high-end single amp prices. So, depends on what you're trying to do exactly. And if you want that sound, that's the other thing.
Speaker 2:
[28:30] I mean, I think the pedal head is actually... I didn't double check, but I think the pedal head is actually stereo as well. I think so. I know it is on the outputs going to the board. I don't remember if it is on the outputs going to the cabinets. But I know the inputs are stereo. I need to double check. I think that actually might be stereo as well, because I know the IR is stereo.
Speaker 3:
[28:54] That would make sense.
Speaker 2:
[28:55] That makes perfect sense, my buddy.
Speaker 3:
[28:58] It makes perfect sense to me. Listen, the only stereo I have is this Alpine in my 1994 Honda Civic, isn't it?
Speaker 2:
[29:12] Yeah, you know, it's been a minute since I've ran stereo, actually.
Speaker 3:
[29:16] Oh, well, I don't know about you, Brian, but every time I do plug in stereo, which is actually I do it kind of on the regular basis. But sometimes I have a nice gap where I'm just playing mono and I go back to stereo. I'm like, well, this really is this really is nice.
Speaker 1:
[29:35] So and another thing that crossed my timeline this week was, oh, is it third power amps that made the triangular cabinets?
Speaker 2:
[29:46] Yes, the third power.
Speaker 1:
[29:47] Yep. And I was thinking, hey, stereo head, triangular cabs. Then you're talking some kind of crazy thing that's going to cost a lot of money, but would be very cool.
Speaker 3:
[30:00] Yeah, I think they did the triangles, if I remember correctly, it was like two triangle cabs flat on the bottom and then another one in the top.
Speaker 2:
[30:07] One on top, upside down. So one big triangle basically.
Speaker 3:
[30:10] So you got like a three speaker thing.
Speaker 2:
[30:12] It was cool. I played one at NAMM. It was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[30:16] Yeah, kudos for that idea. That's a difficult sell. Heavy as hell. Yeah. I'd imagine that's kind of hard to handle as well. No kind of reference to Black Crows, threading all the Black Crows. But because like you pick one up, like you drop that on your foot. If the pointy bit goes down, you're going to know.
Speaker 3:
[30:37] You don't have a foot anymore, I think is how that works.
Speaker 1:
[30:39] I think you're right. But yeah. So yeah, and the conclusion of all learned friends that I spoke to about this was it's never happening. No one's making a stereo head ever. Because I think I'm with you, Brian. You're better off just buying two heads. Two heads are better than one.
Speaker 3:
[30:58] And again, it's all about like what are you trying to get it to sound like? You know, because I like to run sometimes like one super saturated head and one clean head.
Speaker 2:
[31:06] Exactly. I kind of like two different heads, two different flavors. Yeah. Same.
Speaker 1:
[31:12] I think that's a really good shout too. So it was a stupid idea and I am a moron.
Speaker 3:
[31:17] It's not a stupid idea. There's a cool amp that exists that does it. It's just not for everybody.
Speaker 2:
[31:22] Who is this artist? Let's get him on here. Let's talk to him.
Speaker 1:
[31:26] How do you know we haven't already? No.
Speaker 2:
[31:27] Slash?
Speaker 3:
[31:28] Oh, hi Slash.
Speaker 1:
[31:30] Joe Bonamacer.
Speaker 2:
[31:33] I like it when my wall pedals in stereo. Yeah, that's what he said.
Speaker 3:
[31:36] You got to have a stereo wah for that sweep. That's right. Sweep across the speakers.
Speaker 1:
[31:41] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[31:42] If I was Slash, that's what I would do. Stereo wahs.
Speaker 1:
[31:46] Stereo wahs all day long. I was thinking the other day, I don't use a wah at all anymore. Then the other day, my random guitar playlist that I jam along to, put Maggot Brain by Funkadelic on. I remembered that to get that tone, it was always the cocked wah. It was always like, I need some kind of treble booster for this now.
Speaker 3:
[32:10] A filter of some sort.
Speaker 1:
[32:12] Or a filter, yeah. Or just more funk in my hands, but something.
Speaker 3:
[32:18] Hey, we gotta talk about some funk stuff on the Patreon.
Speaker 1:
[32:23] We sure do. I think I know what you're talking about. I got sent some amazing gifts by one of our listeners the other day, and I think these may be the best I've ever been sent. So I got sent some lovely T-shirts, including this leather face T-shirt here. But the best thing was I got sent a set of three Bob Ross car air fresheners. My dudes. You like the happy trees, but they weren't. It's Bob Ross' face holding a brush. I'm telling you, you probably shouldn't laugh as much inside your car as I now do, because I just look at that thing and it cheers me up.
Speaker 3:
[33:04] That's one of those things that you need in your car, actually. We probably all should have them. I bet having a Bob Ross bangling from your rearview mirror would reduce road rage by 40%.
Speaker 1:
[33:16] I think it would, you know. So, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:
[33:24] You know how people get the truck testicles? I like to have them hanging off my mirror. That's what I do.
Speaker 3:
[33:29] I feel like that does something else.
Speaker 1:
[33:31] Yeah, I feel that might be a signal. You know when you go to that green space and suddenly a load of other gentlemen approach you. They almost come out of the woods and be like, oh, hey there, I just saw your car and I was wondering.
Speaker 3:
[33:48] I was wondering if you made guitar pedals.
Speaker 1:
[33:53] That would be amazing.
Speaker 2:
[33:56] Oddly enough, not to change the subject, but I did find those little dangly bits for an e-bike.
Speaker 1:
[34:04] Chester Claes.
Speaker 3:
[34:05] Yeah, you got me that.
Speaker 2:
[34:07] Did I tell you that?
Speaker 1:
[34:08] Have you stated them?
Speaker 2:
[34:09] I mean, what am I stupid? Of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[34:14] Dude, you got a retro film with some red glowing LEDs inside so they can be seen at night. That.
Speaker 2:
[34:18] Oh, they glow. They glow.
Speaker 3:
[34:20] Yeah. For safety.
Speaker 1:
[34:22] Yeah, for safety.
Speaker 2:
[34:23] Yeah, it's like a tail light, but it's dangly bits.
Speaker 1:
[34:27] Safety nuts. I like it. On the subject of the Jcm 800, last week I did hint that Synergy were releasing something and they have. They've released their new Marshall Jcm 800 module, which has three tubes in it and it does the whole high, low, imputty thing, which I think is a really nice touch. Obviously, I was privy to this information because I put the website up. And obviously I am biased. But I got to say, like they are knocking it out of the park at the moment at Synergy, because you've got the Tone King module. You've now got two actual Marshall modules. You've got Soldano modules. You've got like Mesa-alike modules. That's a seriously well-equipped amp ecosystem now, Brian.
Speaker 2:
[35:22] I love this stuff. I have one of the enter modules coming to me. So I'll let you know what it sounds like.
Speaker 1:
[35:28] Oh, I see how that happens. Oh, yeah, Mr. Big Stuff over there.
Speaker 2:
[35:33] I had to have one. I had to have one. I mean, you know how I feel about 800s. I've talked about this for a while now. I do know how you feel about 800s. When Synergy put one out, I thought, this is an opportunity I must seize upon. And I must just do whatever it takes to get it now.
Speaker 3:
[35:54] I saw a photo of Jim Marshall. He obviously really believes in the Jcm 800 because he had a Jcm 800 license plate on his car. That was quite cool.
Speaker 2:
[36:06] That's a good idea. I wonder if I could get one in Indiana for that. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1:
[36:12] What would you have? If you could have any personalized plate, Brian, What would you say?
Speaker 2:
[36:16] I'm thinking Jcm 800.
Speaker 1:
[36:19] I mean, I'm thinking more like Goat Lord or...
Speaker 2:
[36:24] I think I only have seven characters or something like that.
Speaker 1:
[36:27] Womp Daddy. Oh, that's a shame. Womp Daddy would be pretty good.
Speaker 2:
[36:31] Womp Dad? We got Womp Dad on there.
Speaker 1:
[36:35] I forgot to update the name of one of our executive producers. He pointed out a very obvious error in something we said last week, Brian. Shouldn't it be called Wampler Learn? It should be called Womp Learn. See what he did?
Speaker 2:
[36:51] Womp Learn.
Speaker 3:
[36:55] Womp Learn.
Speaker 1:
[36:57] Yeah, let's register that one, boys.
Speaker 2:
[37:00] I like it. Let me just type that in to go in there real quick.
Speaker 3:
[37:02] When you come out with a wah pedal, you can call it the...
Speaker 1:
[37:06] The...
Speaker 2:
[37:07] Wampler wah.
Speaker 1:
[37:08] I don't know. Wampler wah.
Speaker 3:
[37:09] Wampler wah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[37:10] On the same page. Did you know you're talking to a best selling book editor?
Speaker 2:
[37:18] That's gonna let you know that right now. Congratulations on number one, man. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:
[37:25] It didn't have to sell as many copies as I'd like to get somewhat, but the Taste the Pain, the making of the Red Hot Chili Peppers Mother's Milk album was released last week.
Speaker 2:
[37:36] This is the second time you've done this.
Speaker 3:
[37:41] Yes, he's been a number one seller.
Speaker 1:
[37:43] But this is the first time I've been a number one editor, Brian.
Speaker 2:
[37:46] When we did the e-books, remember we did the e-books a couple years ago.
Speaker 1:
[37:51] Yeah. And you know what? I need to get an author profile now because I need to, because I've actually published quite a few books on Amazon. If I had time to write my own, then I could make some money out of them. But at the moment, I just help other people. But I need a little author profile on there, Brian. I need to come and claim my editorship of all your lovely books. And then I can get my lawyers to run away from you. Rapid speed. But no, it feels good to see your name next to the number one on Amazon thing. Again, I will enjoy spending both dollars of commission that I've earned from that. I might even buy a coffee.
Speaker 3:
[38:31] I remember, was it Tim Ferriss? I think he's like a known, he's been on the internet since the internet was internetting basically. I think he like published, yes, that guy. I think he published a like a how to like get on the bestseller list guide, but it was more about the like New York Times and stuff. And I wonder if that pertains at all to Amazon anymore. That was a weird thing that triggered in my brain when you said bestseller, I'm on the bestseller. There was like a guide to that, I think at one point.
Speaker 2:
[39:05] I remember people talking about that quite a bit. There was like a method to doing it. Yeah, that apparently still works very well. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[39:13] And I don't know how much that like really moves, like the needle. I mean, my sister was a USA Today bestseller and she still lives in the same house she did when, when she did that. So I'm not sure if that like translates into great financial success, but it sounds cool.
Speaker 1:
[39:29] I mean, that's all I'm going to get out of this. I guarantee I will not get great financial success in this project, but it kind of sounds cool. It's actually, I told you guys as I was editing it, but you know, live, it's actually a really interesting book because, and we're hoping to have the author of it on here in a couple of weeks, but he's actually a super well-connected guy who's produced nearly everything that's good, but he's also really detailed. Like he talks about the amps in the way that guitarists talk about amps. He talks a bit about how John Frusciante really loved the Soldano tone. And I'm like, yeah, even back then it was the king of tones. No pun or trademarks violated as I say that. But yeah, so that's pretty interesting. It is cool. Oh, and I nailed it at a rehearsal this weekend. Like I literally, I played Animal by Def Leppard Bray. Every dive bomb, every harmonic, every squeal. I was even wearing tight fitting leather pants. Ooh, there you go.
Speaker 3:
[40:40] You buried the lead there.
Speaker 1:
[40:42] Dude, I tell you, I nailed it. And it feels really good when you nail it. I nailed every song I played actually, because I'm a little bit good. No, I'm shit. But yeah, it feels good when you do that, right?
Speaker 3:
[40:57] Yeah, I think, I imagine it probably does.
Speaker 2:
[41:00] The downside was that you were playing Animal from Def Leppard.
Speaker 1:
[41:05] I mean, it's a fun song to play, Brian. It is a fun song to play.
Speaker 3:
[41:10] What's wrong with Animal by Def Leppard?
Speaker 1:
[41:12] It's got the third easiest guitar solo in the world.
Speaker 2:
[41:15] George Lynch did not play on that song, so sucks.
Speaker 3:
[41:20] George Lynch didn't play on most songs.
Speaker 2:
[41:22] They suck. If he didn't play on them, they all suck.
Speaker 1:
[41:26] So we started to put some more songs together. We need to get our repertoire up to 50. And I said, I have three-
Speaker 2:
[41:32] Have you thought about Duckin, Gwichemob?
Speaker 1:
[41:35] Well, I told them I have three rules for 1980s songs. If the solos were by Adrian Vandenberg, Eddie Van Halen or Steve Lukather, I am not covering that song, all right? It's that simple.
Speaker 3:
[41:53] That's fair, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[41:55] Which buys me a lot of time, especially with like the Michael Jackson music, they keep saying we should do, but yeah.
Speaker 3:
[42:03] If you're not going to do any Lukather, how are you going to play Africa?
Speaker 1:
[42:08] We're taking Africa off the set list. What? We did put it on the set list. It's kind of a bummer of a song to play.
Speaker 3:
[42:15] Bless the ruins down in Africa.
Speaker 2:
[42:18] Yeah, but if you're in the audience, it's kind of just a chill song. You can't really dance to it. It's just like, I guess I'll just listen, bob my head.
Speaker 3:
[42:28] Which is fine.
Speaker 1:
[42:30] Yeah, that's fine, but that's not the vibe of this band. We're about the high energy 80s.
Speaker 2:
[42:35] You gotta sell alcohol, man. How are you gonna do that with Africa?
Speaker 1:
[42:40] This is true. This is very true.
Speaker 2:
[42:43] That's what I go for anyways. I'm up there, I'm like, I mean, you're basically pushing alcohol on unsuspecting people in a tavern.
Speaker 3:
[42:53] Yeah, they're totally unsuspecting. They didn't just go to a bar. I wonder what's in here. What could possibly be in this fine establishment? Oh, Martha, did you see they're serving alcoholic beverages? Can you believe it? Oh, do you hear that beat? I feel like tomorrow's not going to be very fun.
Speaker 1:
[43:18] It is funny though, because there is a magic mix between good music and alcohol. Like, you need the right level of alcohol and you need the right level of music, but there is a kind of perfect point where the alcohol and music meet in perfect unison.
Speaker 2:
[43:35] Zach Todd has a song about this, actually. It's called Cold Beer and Country Music.
Speaker 3:
[43:41] I was thinking that what you meant was like the embodiment of Slash in 1989. It's like where alcohol and music meet. It forms a perfect thing.
Speaker 1:
[43:52] Dude, like 1989, so we're trying to find more songs from the late 80s to do. And 88 to 90 were dark times for pop music in terms of stuff that isn't cheesy.
Speaker 2:
[44:06] Switching over a bit, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:08] Right, that's when the techno started and you had some of that going on. But there was also a lot of mass-produced boy band guff out there. And yeah, just terrible, terrible music.
Speaker 3:
[44:23] The number one band when I was born was Huey Lewis and the News.
Speaker 1:
[44:27] I mean, they're not a bad band.
Speaker 3:
[44:29] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:30] They're not a bad band, to be fair.
Speaker 3:
[44:32] August 1988, it was the number one song in America. It was by Huey Lewis.
Speaker 1:
[44:38] What was the first song you can remember, Brian?
Speaker 2:
[44:40] The first song I remember? Yeah. Probably Will's On The Bus, Go Round and Round.
Speaker 1:
[44:45] I mean, do you really remember? Okay, what was the first song that wasn't a children's song that you remember? The first pop rock song?
Speaker 2:
[44:53] Well, that's kind of not fair because my brothers both, like one was a musician and the other one just loved Van Halen. So my earliest memories of hearing my brother cranking up Van Halen, like as a little kid, before I played guitar.
Speaker 1:
[45:07] Yeah. That's impressive though.
Speaker 2:
[45:09] Four or five and yeah, he was always, he loved all that kind of stuff. Scorpions. Scorpions was my first concert. I was like seven.
Speaker 3:
[45:19] How about you Richard?
Speaker 1:
[45:21] So the first music I can remember, there's three songs and two of them belong to bands that I've since become really, really into. So Space Oddity by Bowie, which was number one when it got re-released in 75 when I was born. Mull of Kintyre by Wings, which is a terrible song that everyone hates, but it was very catchy, came out Christmas 77. And Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick by Ian Dury and the Blockheads, which Brian still refuses to believe is a real song or indeed a real act.
Speaker 2:
[45:53] Totally, that's a made up name.
Speaker 3:
[45:55] That's a made up name.
Speaker 1:
[45:56] Wow.
Speaker 3:
[45:56] Invented.
Speaker 1:
[45:57] Just wow.
Speaker 2:
[45:59] Jump low with your rhythm sticks. Yeah, that's not what I love.
Speaker 3:
[46:03] Now that's a real Martinsville special.
Speaker 1:
[46:05] That probably is a real Coyote special. What was your first musical memory?
Speaker 3:
[46:11] Oh boy, that's tough other than like kid stuff. Like probably the first grown up music.
Speaker 2:
[46:17] Like 182.
Speaker 3:
[46:18] No, that was later. But not much later. I think the first song I can remember being like, I kind of dig that, was the Garth Brooks Rodeo. I was pretty young when that came out. And I remember hearing that coming back. It's kind of got that kind of driving riff to it.
Speaker 2:
[46:37] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[46:38] I remember thinking like, that's a cool sound. I don't know what that is, but that's a cool sound.
Speaker 1:
[46:42] Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:
[46:44] It's more of a rock song than a country song, but it was on country radio.
Speaker 2:
[46:47] So actually not to name drop, but my buddy Chris Lusinger played on all that Garth stuff. And that's his style. He's just, and he'll admit like, I'm not like a flashy Brent Masony type of guy, but he just has a groove that just fits with that stuff. He's a great player. He played for everybody.
Speaker 3:
[47:06] That's a groovy song. That's like, that's a good song. I like that song still. You should listen to it, Richard.
Speaker 1:
[47:13] I probably do need to get into some Garth at some points cause I've only got the songs that made it big over here in my Garth Brooks songbook. And they are probably not his greatest moments.
Speaker 3:
[47:25] I mean, he had so many big songs. It's hard to really know which ones you're talking about.
Speaker 1:
[47:30] I also confuse him. I also confuse Garth Brooks with Billy Ray Cyrus and Achey Breaky Heart.
Speaker 2:
[47:37] How in the world? Two totally different things.
Speaker 1:
[47:41] That's all the same music to us over here.
Speaker 2:
[47:42] It's not. Have you ever heard Shameless? Like you can't, you can't listen to Shameless and not have a tear. Just, just one streaming down your face.
Speaker 3:
[47:53] The Beaches of Cheyenne. Come on. Every night she walks the beaches of Cheyenne.
Speaker 1:
[47:58] What?
Speaker 3:
[48:00] They say she just went crazy streaming on his name.
Speaker 1:
[48:01] My daughter buys a lot of clothes from Cheyenne, but I think it's a Chinese dropship.
Speaker 2:
[48:05] If you don't hear Friends in Low Places and want to drink a good bud light, then you're not American.
Speaker 1:
[48:12] I hate to break it to you, Brian, but I am not American.
Speaker 2:
[48:17] That's part of the joke there, Rich.
Speaker 3:
[48:21] Wait a minute. Brian, you're not an American on this show. You didn't tell me about that.
Speaker 1:
[48:28] I was doing some reflecting about some childhood friends recently. Oh yeah, I got a story. I'll save it for patron. I realized I've always really loved American things, and it comes from when my family, like my cousins left in 83 or 81, and I love my cousins very dearly. In fact, Paul listens to the show. They left and went to Florida and then New York. I felt like my whole family had gone to America, and American TV and culture was just starting to come on the UK TV. I've realized I've always really loved all things American. It's part of my DNA.
Speaker 2:
[49:05] Especially that Billy Ray Cyrus song that's pretty low place.
Speaker 1:
[49:08] Especially that one Billy Ray Cyrus song. Achey breaky heart.
Speaker 2:
[49:15] I ain't going down till the sun comes up, Billy Ray Cyrus. Oh yeah, bub.
Speaker 3:
[49:20] I know Brian, you gotta get out of here, but I do wanna do one quick plug. This is a funny thing that happened. So Scott's got a buddy named Joseph, who I've met and hung out with a few times. And Joseph.
Speaker 1:
[49:31] Hey Joe.
Speaker 3:
[49:32] Has a Uncle Greg. Uncle Greg came to Nashville and asked Scott for some tours around, what guitar shops do I need to hit? He was looking for amps to fix. He's real into that kind of stuff. And apparently Uncle Greg is a listener of Chasing Tone. And I was like, wow, small world that is. So I wanted to give a shout out to Uncle Greg. Hi Uncle Greg.
Speaker 2:
[49:56] Awesome. Hi Uncle Greg.
Speaker 1:
[49:58] I apologize Uncle Greg. I didn't realize people listened to this show. I thought it was just the three of us in a room. I've been horribly misled.
Speaker 3:
[50:07] So that's all.
Speaker 1:
[50:08] That's awesome. That is awesome. Paul Bigsby Pedal Steel and Mandolin. Who wrote that?
Speaker 3:
[50:13] I did, but it's kind of we'll have to say that for another time.
Speaker 1:
[50:16] Okay.
Speaker 3:
[50:17] Yep.
Speaker 1:
[50:18] Good.
Speaker 3:
[50:19] It's longer than Brian has.
Speaker 2:
[50:21] Yes, sirs. Yep.
Speaker 1:
[50:24] That's not what I wrote.
Speaker 3:
[50:27] Is it my turn to read out the fabulous patrons of this podcast?
Speaker 2:
[50:32] Sure. Let's go for it.
Speaker 1:
[50:33] It definitely is.
Speaker 3:
[50:34] All right. Well, good. Thank my throat's all scratchy all of a sudden. That's good. I'm going to give a big shout out to Bill Bays, David Tindall, Dave Tromp, Betty, Shannon Weaver, Eric Wilson, Vedar Frostad, Michael Freer, Sean Arbove, Gunstree Wiring, Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks, Patrice Fournaise, Dylan Talkstone, Missouri Electrical Box Company, Kevin Harrington, Barry from Grez Guitars, Tom Kelly, Jake Young of Man the Helm Podcast, Pigsy, John O'Neill, Robert Carr, Hunter Hudson, Rob Stokes, Nick Spano, Sasha Sur, Jay Stratton, Harry Post, Grumpy Mike, Harvey Pedals, Allison Carroll, Bum Laser, Anthony Stevens, Add A Play's Guitar, Philip Carter of 40 Watt Podcasts, Christopher Logan, Jason Engelhardt, Dylan Lewis of Leeward Sound, Josh, James Thompson, Colin Littlejohn, Machete of Odin, Derek Lyons, Darth, here we go, Darth Bagel, Dustin Romero, Wizard of Woz, Crappy Tom, Simon Ferocious from Wampler Inc., DJ Farnes, Kyle Viana, Robert Hahn, John Hill, Nick Call, Kyle Ray, Your Face, Dave Evangelista of the Guitar Dads Podcast, Roxy Gwynn, Derek Howe, Old South Guitars, Churchill from Cam Girls Plus and Ross Edwards.
Speaker 2:
[51:46] All right.
Speaker 1:
[51:46] Wonderful people.
Speaker 2:
[51:48] Absolutely. And one more thing. You have to call me Dragon from now on.
Speaker 3:
[51:55] What?
Speaker 2:
[51:56] You have to call me Dragon. That's my new name.
Speaker 1:
[52:00] Okay, Dragon.
Speaker 3:
[52:01] All right, Dragon.
Speaker 1:
[52:02] See you later, Dragon.
Speaker 2:
[52:03] If you're not first, you're last.
Speaker 1:
[52:08] I'm so confused right now.
Speaker 3:
[52:09] I'm going to climb up on you like a spider monkey here.
Speaker 2:
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