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Speaker 1:
[00:05] You are now listening to Wisdom From North podcast with me, Jannecke Øinæs. Here I will explore topics such as metaphysics, spirituality, personal growth, and in general, how we can create good lives for ourselves. My intention is to find some answers, but perhaps more importantly, finding new questions to ask, because there is always something new to discover in this wonderful universe that we live in. I would like to share with you what's happening on Wisdom From North right now. I would love to connect with you live. Join me for a live free webinar that's called Awaken to Your Soul's Purpose Through the Spiritual Journey. Your soul's purpose is what you as a soul signed up for. It's what you came here to be, live or do. Sign up totally for free on wisdomfromnorth.com/webinar. That was wisdomfromnorth.com/webinar. Pamela Aaralyn, a warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show. How are you?

Speaker 2:
[01:18] Oh, Jannecke, thank you so much for having me. I feel so blessed and grateful to just be in your presence again. I love the work you're doing. As always, when I come, I tell you it's amazing and we're going through some very unique times, so I look forward to talking about it.

Speaker 1:
[01:33] I always look forward to speak with you. You've been on the show a couple of times before, and every time it has been watched by several 100,000s of people. So clearly, what you are sharing is really intriguing to people. And you are a mystic, you are a spiritual teacher, a YouTuber, and you channel the Council of Nine. But what makes you unique is that you channel beings also from the future. And I'm thinking, what a benefit, like moving into the future, seeing what's happening around you. But that begs the question, timelines. What is really timelines and how do they work? And we're going to dive into that today, and also just addressing the current situation in the world. However, how do you feel, Pamela, that our conversation might expand people's consciousness today?

Speaker 2:
[02:24] One of the most powerful things that the Council of Nine have shared with me is that we have held a deep attachment to painful karmic timelines and a deep aversion to wonderful dharmic potential in our timelines for 6,000 years. And now, now that's painful. However, what's exciting is that we're upon the threshold of changing that. We are actively magnetizing our resonance towards positive, masterful dharmic timelines, and we are in active rebuttal, rewriting of soul contracts, and removal of painful karmic collective timelines. And that's happening overall as a species. So for the first time in 6,000 years, we are rewriting soul contracts that we have adhered to, that have imprisoned us in so many ways. And even though most of us are very afraid of what that's going to look like, we're also excited and we're coming together. We're more unified in what we do and what we don't want. And that to me is beyond thrilling. I'm beyond excited about it.

Speaker 1:
[03:37] Well, that's positive news. And I've also heard you say that, that you're really excited about the decades to come. And yeah, let's go there. Let's speak about the decades to come. What is so exciting? What is coming? I've heard you speak about the Golden Era. And it starts around 2030 something. I mean, it's quite, it's right around the corner.

Speaker 2:
[04:00] Yeah. Yeah, it really, really is. It's around 2032 to 2035 is when that Golden Era begins. But we're in an era of transformation right now. We are actively alchemizing, healing, grieving, and removing collective timelines, which have caused us pain for thousands and thousands of years. And that's not easy. So let's address that first. Removal of painful timelines means no longer being so permanently attached to time. And what time is meant for us. You know, some of us are still so actively attached to those beliefs that come through time, even about time. We have such a deeper misunderstanding of what time it even is. We are living subconsciously in this space where we continue to repeat the old karmic timelines that are also actively dissolving. And then we draw them back in. So number one of being told, let's please stop doing that. And the Council is very clear about, okay, let's be aware of how to know the soul, know the mind, body, soul constructs so well, know the temple, practical spiritual embodiment is such an important part of knowing yourself. And if we know what's going on with this temple, this nervous system is not just activated and on edge all the time, it's calm, it's ready, it's prepared, it's grounded, it's centered, it's protected, and it is actively working through anything that's holding us back. And the nervous system then begins to, you know, stop deflecting and deferring. It goes, you know what, I can actually see how I'm pulling back into those painful timelines. I can see the same repeated karmic things in my life, and I'm going to actively rewrite that contract. I'm going to rebut that, I'm going to revoke that, I'm going to send that back to the universe and decide to do something else, even if I don't know what it looks like, even if my passions aren't there yet, even if I don't feel well, even if I'm having hard times, right? We're actively in that moment of we don't feel well yet, but we're still choosing to rise above, we're still choosing new timelines that we don't understand because we're so done with the old ones.

Speaker 1:
[06:20] For those who are a bit confused right now and feel like, this is a bit over my head, I don't have the words and the spiritual concepts, what do you even mean by a timeline? If you could just explain the basics of what is a timeline, and how do they work? This is how many are there.

Speaker 2:
[06:40] Limitless, absolutely limitless. If you think about it, we make thousands of decisions a day, minimum. Even the decision for me to say, you know what? That the brain sort of subconsciously said, put your hands together so you can fill your own energy field. I didn't know I was thinking that, but my brain did somewhere. In that moment, all my energy centered in so that I could calm down and explain something that can be relatively complicated. That's a decision. If we're doing that subconsciously and consciously thousands and thousands and thousands of times a day, we could also be creating new timelines every single time we do that for aspects of ourselves. We are multi-dimensional beings. It's not just you Jannecke, me Pamela, it's hundreds, thousands, millions, billions of versions of Jannecke and Pamela operating in multiple timelines. And every time we have a thought, if we're not grounded and aware, we could split off into another decision, which brings us into an entirely new potential. And that is a timeline. We have individual timelines and we have collective timelines. If enough individuals continue to be aware of their timelines and what decisions they're making that cause for more timeline splits, we can actually collectively move into a powerful fifth-dimensional timeline together because we're all doing our work. We all get on the same page vibrationally. And for the first time in 6,000 years, the Council is seeing us do that. We went down from thousands and thousands and thousands of timelines to seven. There are seven parallel realms of Earth. Only one of them is 3D. The rest of them are 40, 50, 60, 70, all the way up. So we can decide to actively re-center into a fifth dimensional timeline because we are multidimensional beings. The more mastered version of you Jannecke individually, and me Pamela individually, can decide to switch a timeline at any given moment for our own health, wealth and well-being and not just for our own, but for everyone's health, wealth and well-being. Right? And that's what we're doing. We're bringing all those timelines, those collective timelines into one melting pot that involves seven potentials for Earth. Seven, just seven, collectively. And that's wonderful because it prevents confusion.

Speaker 1:
[09:11] Seven potentials for Earth. What does that mean? What kind of potentials?

Speaker 2:
[09:16] Some people will be living in a 3D world. This means that unfortunately, we may not be able to change certain things going on right now. Some people are still learning, say, from Iran and Israel. Some people are still learning from the current airstrikes that just happened in Lebanon. But other people decided to split from that timeline and live in a peaceful, empowered, liberated Lebanon. And that's happening right now, somewhere in another version of 5D Earth that is already there. The only thing we need to do is center into it, so we can be right there, centered in, along with billions of other people who are experiencing a peaceful Iran timeline, a less catalyzing US timeline, a better economy in a US timeline. All of those things are right there. We're on the cusp of doing that. And we're not changing the 3D timeline of the people who still want to go through whatever it is they want to go through. There are reasons we can't always comprehend for why they want a 3D Earth. And we can't talk them out of it. That's against their free agency for billions of people who still want to be there. But there are also billions of people who want peace. Everyone watching today wants peace. You are actively re-centering into the timeline by coming here today and making the decision to learn how to do so individually. And Ascension is a numbers game. So the more individual people we have doing that and actively deciding to pull into their individual contracts and power to stay focused in a loving vibration, the more individual people do that, the more collectively you change and center in. And then you could wake up tomorrow and see a beautiful, peaceful world and you and billions of other people will be in it, living in it.

Speaker 1:
[11:07] And that is the timeline split we're speaking about.

Speaker 2:
[11:11] Yes, that's it. So you have individual time and then collective time. We used to ascend in collective ascension patterns with what it would take more than people used to call this zero point, but it would take more than half of the population to really be on the same page before we would ascend. But we're not doing that anymore. What's unique about this time is that we're individually splitting into timelines, but we've done it for so many thousands of years that we've kind of excluded each other. You know, and now we need to come back to a space where we work individually and it affects the collective. We're doing this and that, not just individual me, me, me, the individual and to support the collective. Our life purpose can shift the purpose of the world if we join together. So we are finally joining together and that's changing the concept of time. So we had this idea of what the Council calls the in-between. In yogic sciences, you call it the gap between sound. So this is why when we're quiet enough, no matter what sounds happen in the world around us, we center in and create a new vibration together. And then we can shift and we can choose together which one of those seven potentials each of us want to be in, and which one you want to be in, I want to be in, and why? But how does it benefit Earth?

Speaker 1:
[12:42] It's still a bit mind boggling to me because I'm thinking about law of attraction in it all. Like my soul perhaps wants to experience certain things that are challenging, thus I'm attracting it and thus staying in the 3D perhaps, but maybe sort of what my soul wants to try to do is still be in the heart, I guess. Well, I wouldn't know, but the law of attraction must play in this, right?

Speaker 2:
[13:14] Oh, absolutely. But what we forget about law of attraction most in often modern teachings is that the law of reflection is equally important. If we see it, it belongs to us somehow. It's reflecting something back that's powerful. So what I've learned about your message is that you are a lighthouse of hope. You strongly carry that grace. You provide hope to millions of people around the world. People you don't even know are watching your program and following your work. So you're shining a flashlight on that shadow. And the more people are listening to this channel, you're also lighting up your soul and shining your flashlight upon the collective 3D shadow. So you're the volunteers of this planet. You volunteer to still be here because it's so dark that people need a flashlight. They need hope. They need light. And that's powerful. That's positive that you keep re-centering into this 3D timeline. Even though you're not living a 3D life, you're taking that fifth dimensional energy and vibration and shining that into the 3D so powerfully, so clearly. That's why you're here.

Speaker 1:
[14:25] It's such an interesting perspective. Thank you for that. Thank you for that.

Speaker 2:
[14:30] If you didn't have that, how would people have hope?

Speaker 1:
[14:34] Right.

Speaker 2:
[14:35] How would they continue to have hope?

Speaker 1:
[14:37] So what surprised me was what came through the Council of Light in your prediction video about this year, because on my show, I hear constantly that, oh, all the systems, the old system, 3D systems are collapsing. And then in your video, the Council of Nine is saying, no, nothing is collapsing and that is the problem.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:00] What did I mean?

Speaker 2:
[15:02] So in that sense, you remember when we were discussing earlier how it's really easy because we have missions and contracts here. Soul contracts is what the Council calls it. Our soul has a reason for being here. What is confusing is that we have a karmic pull to keep repeating the past. As long as we have a karmic pull to keep repeating the same individual and collective soul contracts that hold Earth in 3D, that is why 3D continues to be such a powerful place for people to want to be. In that sense, it needs to collapse. If we want to move past it, we need to let it collapse individually. It doesn't mean it's going to be collapsing for everyone because some people again still want the free agency to experience it exactly the way that it is rolling out, as painful as that may be, and we can't possibly understand why someone would want that, but they have their reasons that are beyond what we could possibly understand when we're experiencing it. It's very masterful and everybody has a role. It's like the Chinese dragon. If you've ever been to a festival regarding the Chinese dragon, you have people underneath that beautiful symbology that hold the head of the dragon. You have the people in the middle. The warriors and the advocates hold the head of the dragon. They are the humans underneath that costume. The middle way people, those are the meditators, the healers, like holding up the center, making everyone strong enough. You need that. Or your dragon in this festival would have no backbone. And then you have people holding up tail end. Now, that's the hard work, the shamans. Yeah, the shamans, the medicine keepers. You're really, really holding it up for us and making sure that everything that we see is what we see and we're not attacked from behind, even if it's us attacking ourselves. In that sense, we can look at 3D as something that people are experiencing and we all have our roles in it, but we don't have to experience it the same way. And if you're here and you're seeing the world in pain, you are a volunteer for that.

Speaker 1:
[17:17] So that means, because I've heard many times that this is sort of happening, that the systems are collapsing because, in lack of better ways of saying it, the light has been winning. So we could sort of relax a bit, because we have won already, like the dark agenda is over. But are you really saying that, no, we're just moving into another timeline, but this dark agenda will still continue.

Speaker 2:
[17:47] It continues for those who want it to continue because of their mastery. Yes. Yeah. Because however they want to master, they want to expand in a unique way that possibly we can't understand anymore, because that's not our unique chosen vibration and our agency, right? But our greatest gift is agency, and it is important to honor how people choose to expand, even if we don't understand or agree with it.

Speaker 1:
[18:13] That is true. From a soul level, I can understand. From a human level, I cannot understand the gruesomeness of, for instance, the wars, the Epstein files. I just cannot understand that people can be so horrible.

Speaker 2:
[18:28] Absolutely. Same. Absolutely. I feel the same every day when I think about it, it's heartbreaking. But then again, it's like rotten cream rising to the top so that people in that reality can say, you know what, I choose them no more. I'm done with that. It has to keep rising to the top until people begin to actively get out the filter and scoop it out and say, I don't want rotten cream in my tea anymore.

Speaker 1:
[18:54] Right. And then we won't see it if we're actually moving into that higher timeline. We won't be in the same world. Is it really a concrete split like that?

Speaker 2:
[19:05] No. Some people will see it, some people won't. There will be billions of people who move into a timeline who just, it's almost like the way that the Mandela Effect describes this. Some people think about, curious George, did he have a tail or not? All these things, Tony the Tiger on the Kellogg serial said this or he said that's great or he didn't or he rolled the R or he didn't. People remember different timelines because the timeline split and change and then your memory of that completely changed because you changed everything. You changed the whole world. You changed the past, the present and your potential. Everything had to change in order to align to that potential. So the Mandela Effect is amazing to study for that reason because you do see that the past did change and people are like, well, why does it need to be the same? Well, it can't be because we're multi-dimensional beings. It can't be the same and of course, some of us will still see it. If you're a volunteer, you'll still see it, but it won't affect you the same way because you meant to shine a light on it. That's very fifth dimensional. Maybe one day the 3D Earth, that version of Earth will not exist, but it still exists for those who either want to volunteer to help it grow and shift or for those who want to experience it exactly as it is.

Speaker 1:
[20:25] Interesting perspective. I'm going to jump a bit and speak about finances because that's something that is influencing all of us or most of us. You've been speaking about a financial reset in 2026, 2027. Could you expand on what you mean with reset? What kind of reset?

Speaker 2:
[20:49] In that sense, what the council has shared about our abundance is that we begin to shift away from where 3D is guiding us. People are declining digital currencies. We're going into a greater model of altcoins and cryptocurrencies and various types of reset. People are going back to the whole the dollar is king, and the denar might be your king, whatever your actual metal and paper would be. You will either have the metal or the paper, or you will have your digital world of altcoins and cryptocurrencies and investments. But we're going into different types of investments that combine altcoins, bitcoins, stocks, and various types of digital investments. It combines all of that into one wallet. Where we're seeing that go is that AI brings that in and helps you understand what the statistics are. People are creating AI models that help you understand your wallet and how to invest wisely without loss. Many people are becoming investors, private investors, side gig investors, many people, moms and dads and teens and college. Everybody's learning what to do that would best help their world financially, right? So in that sense, it resets because we have this concept of money being either fully metal or paper or completely digital in control, but it's neither one. We have more valuation of metal and paper. Metals are the strongest investment you could possibly go towards right now. Precious metals are going to get huge, bigger than anything, bigger than the Bitcoin could ever dream of. So about a decade from now, for people who invested in those precious metals, you're going to be super, super happy with yourself, right? If you invested in some of the cryptocurrencies, you're going to be super, super happy with yourself by 2033. So it's a hold pattern. Hold, hold, hold, wait, wait, wait. Don't take it out because you need it. Hold, hold, hold.

Speaker 1:
[22:58] Interesting. So it's not a financial collapse. It's a restructure in a way. Yeah, like reset, a new way. What I've been thinking about is that if all of us across the globe had access to AI, like everyone and the same intelligence of AI, like everybody had the same, wouldn't everybody be able to invest and earn lots of money? And what happens to capitalism then? Because capitalism is based on some are winning and some are not.

Speaker 2:
[23:35] It's rocket ship down. Capitalism starts to just really decline and people aren't interested in doing things just to support their own wealth. People are investing in more nature-backed resources. People are investing in things greater than oil. People are investing in things that support the environment, that support their families, but that also are earth-friendly. The coins are being re-centered and re-structured around earth-friendly models, cleaner environment models. I'm very hopeful about what the council has shared with me and the prophetic visions received from them.

Speaker 1:
[24:15] In the Golden Era, will there then be no poverty?

Speaker 2:
[24:21] No, because you still have people who want to experience it in 3D.

Speaker 1:
[24:25] All right.

Speaker 2:
[24:25] Yeah. And that's a choice. And that's a choice that we have to honor in their unique free agency. It's difficult as that is. People want to come here and do hard things, so there will be some level of a 3D earth. Now, can it become easier than it is right now? Sure. But there has to be at least one 3D earth for people to have the choice to have a starting point for expansion in the dualistic models of time and expansion.

Speaker 1:
[24:51] Hmm. Interesting. All right. So when you are then channeling beings from the future, what kind of timeline are they in?

Speaker 2:
[25:02] Multiple timelines. That's why people kind of got a little bit confused when I first started sharing my bell location experiences, because people are attached to time, and when people are attached to time, you want one answer. You want consistency, and you want one thing happening all the time. But because we have so many choices now, you got people from seven different timelines. You got some 5D timelines, you got some 60 timelines, some 70 timelines, some 3D timelines. Ultimately speaking, because of our collective and individual attachment to time being the same and time being always one way, we get very confused. A lot of those humans from the future perspectives are meant to open you up towards a multidimensional understanding of what could happen based upon where we are right now and how that's always changing. Every single time we have a thought, it's changing. That's how powerful we are as creators.

Speaker 1:
[25:59] It gets so huge. What about disclosure? That is something a lot in my, many in my audience are curious about, myself included. So I have to bring that up whenever I can. Because especially a lot of my guests are speaking about that disclosure will happen this year. But then again, it might be which, a question of which timeline will disclosure happen in. So what is the knowledge and wisdom you've received about disclosure?

Speaker 2:
[26:27] What is your definition of disclosure?

Speaker 1:
[26:30] Right. Well, I would like to have the governments come out and say the truth, that really share the alien technology they have, the connection they have, the truth about our connection to our star families, because that will also maybe tell us more about who we are as humans. So just the truth.

Speaker 2:
[26:57] Disclosure from a 3D government looks like fear.

Speaker 1:
[27:01] Right.

Speaker 2:
[27:02] Mm-hmm. So it's not going to be like, you'll be having these fifth dimensional experiences. So many people who listen to date will see beauty, illuminating love in the skies. Then when we do finally get disclosure, we are starting. We're having all sorts of conversations and congressional hearings right now. Congresswoman Luna, I believe, does a lot of that right now. She's amazing, by the way. If you don't know who she is, look her up. She's Congresswoman Luna. She is giving all sorts of information about what's going on. She's having all sorts of military personnel come and share their experiences, and they are undeniably in relation to disclosure. If you are on that timeline, you've probably seen these hearings. They're amazing. They're not mock hearings. They're everywhere. You can find them anywhere. They're all the time. Once a month minimum, I'm seeing more from her. So we're there. But the ultimate idea of what people think that disclosure looks like is different based upon what timeline you're experiencing. Some of us will see beautiful individual and collective experiences in our skies, and some of us will be in a different timeline where the government says, yes, we agree, there's something in our skies, but it's going to hurt you. So we're going to protect you from it, and we're going to go to war with them, and if you see them, please tell us so we can shoot them down. You will see a lot of that going on as well. We had the beginnings of a disclosure not too long ago. I believe it was a couple of years ago in New Jersey in particular. We had all these drones and activities and plasma things in the sky, and the council covered it clearly on my channel and many channels, and some of it was spy drones from other countries. So there was a lot of things going on because we split into so many different timelines that we had all those things happening concurrently, and people got confused because you're looking at disclosure as beings that need to land and talk to us, and some of you will experience that, some of you will experience negative beings coming, and the government saying, well, because that's what our fear tells us that is true. Not mine and yours particularly, or the people who watched this program, but many are terrified of that. They're stuck in outdated religious models that have controlled them for over 10,000 years. So they want God to come down, not an alien. The alien pattern of something positive and loving that is Godlike would disrupt the learning pattern going on in the current religious paradigm. And for those who are still learning from the current religious paradigm in 3D, they have created a massive collective storyline where something comes down and is dangerous and our government gets to protect us. So that's their timeline. You'll see a little bit of that. You'll see a lot of, I don't know if you and I have talked about this before, but the Council is really clear that there will be these pods coming down, these plasma type pods that come and they land and nothing comes out for a while. Now, that's a 2030 prediction. We're a little ways off from that. But, and that could change. Again, timelines are always changing. But right now, we're looking at 2030 for that. Those pods land, they're prism-like, bless you. They are prism-like and they're octagonal and they're beautiful. When the light hits them, it creates sound. When light from the sun hits them or the moon hits them, it creates a sound-based technology that heals people. So people will come and experience their own little engagement with these pods. No beings come out at first. That's another timeline we're in. The beings don't come out at first. They want to make sure that we're ready and that we're not going to try to defeat them. Because we do that still in 3D. Scientists are going to be observing them and measuring what sounds and vibrations come from these pods for a while. They'll try to get in. They won't be able to get in. It's beyond our technology. And eventually, the pods just leave, and then we have ships coming there after. And those ships are also very white and plasma-like. And the beings won't land at first. They will have telepathic communications. So that's super exciting as well.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] Very. What are your thoughts or the Council of Three Eye Atlas?

Speaker 2:
[31:28] What are my thoughts on Three Eye Atlas? I believe it's something different for everyone. I believe we can hold many truths about this in our hands. We have two hands and ten figures for a reason. We can hold all the various truths because we are multidimensional beings. So one truth is that's a spaceship. I believe that. That's in my timeline. So when I by located there, I did walk on that spaceship and see the various unusual metals coming through an Andromedon Collective and an Esassani Collective. So that was a fly by that we missed because we weren't ready. Collectively speaking, we weren't ready for that potential, so we only got to experience this vibrational effect. But it'll come back again. It's massive. Are we ready? In the 3D timeline, they believe it's just a celestial body. And for some who don't believe that is what it will be. But I believe that it's very vibrational, showing us exactly where we are in 3D and exactly where we are in whatever dimensional pattern. And for the majority of Earth, we just weren't ready yet to experience this power.

Speaker 1:
[32:48] I do feel that this year is very special. I feel like things we couldn't fathom just a year ago or talk about, people are like, yeah, you know, that is apparently true. And I think it feels like everything is accelerating so much right now, which is exciting. Have they said anything about time? Like we've been speaking about timelines, but time in that sense, is it really speeding up? Is things really accelerating faster?

Speaker 2:
[33:17] Absolutely, absolutely. And if you watch the geobagnetic force of Earth right now, and if you are a scientist and you're paying attention to some of the anomalies in our geobagnetic Earth field, you will have no explanation other than that. It would not make any sense as per quantum physics other than that. And this is what's really confounding our scientific teams right now. And it's affecting everything. It's affecting our aircraft, our mode of transit. It's affecting the GNSS systems for navigation and planes. And we're having to adapt because our systems in 3D are so old that our planes can't keep up. So we're grounded a lot trying to fix it and upgrade our systems and be prepared. That's why we're having so many near misses and crashes and situations going on in our airfields.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] Wow, interesting. You have so much new information here. It's really interesting to me. Before we go into channeling, I just have to ask about Greenland because you said Greenland is where the world will be will be rebirthed.

Speaker 2:
[34:26] Yes, that's huge. That's a 5D world. That's why all the countries right now want a center there because Greenland is the main port for access for many resources and it's a centralized place. So of course, people who want power for both positive and negative reasons are going to be interested in Greenland, but energetically speaking, it holds many secrets. Greenland is incredible. There was a team of scientists there that went missing and no one wanted to talk about for a while. They saw some amazing things. Same in Antarctica. They saw some amazing things in Antarctica that involved the hidden extraterrestrial bases. There are hidden extraterrestrial combined. They're not just extraterrestrial, they're combined with human intelligence. We've been operating those bases there since the 40s, in both Antarctica and Greenland. So we have hidden resources, hidden energy fields, hidden bases in both of those areas. The scientific technologies are being protected because powerful and positive vibrational beings want Greenland for a 5D Earth, in case 3D ever wants to experience that.

Speaker 1:
[35:46] But that is interesting to me, because a certain leader, who we know who is, is paying a lot of attention to Greenland and making us so aware of Greenland. So our attention is going to Greenland.

Speaker 2:
[36:02] Yeah, they want Greenland. That leader wants Greenland for the resources, for the capacity to see what's coming in all directions. But that leader wants the extraterrestrial resources involved in that, so that that leader can control those resources and minimalize it to the small 1% of the population that that leader would intend to give access to. Won't work. Didn't work. The last time that they were there, it didn't work. So Greenland is meant to be 5D. And it is, and that's not going to change.

Speaker 1:
[36:38] But I mean, it is, you know, something positive in the fact that he gives attention to it, because then we become aware, we talk about it, about what we're talking about now, that it is a birthplace for our new world. And I just heard in another episode that I did that there was this wonderful spiritual teacher, he was out of his body, and he experienced exactly the same, you know, these extraterrestrials for this other beautiful civilization there. So there's, you know, there's always two sides of something.

Speaker 2:
[37:12] Oh yeah, absolutely. I agree with that vision, and that's something similar to what I found in remote viewing that location, and it was beautiful, and I could see the visions of where it's going, and I don't feel like it'll be in negative control in the future, I haven't gotten any indication of it falling into improper hands or evil hands. I feel like it's very protected, it's going to be a wonderful rebirth center, and already is.

Speaker 1:
[37:36] Interesting. Well, maybe we should or we can ask the council to come in, or being from the future, whoever wants to bring a message to our audience today.

Speaker 2:
[37:49] Okay. So I have a couple of choices. We can do Andy. She's an environmental person. She is a permacultural expert, and she runs an organic farm out in Texas, in Austin, not exactly in Austin, but in the suburbs there. She is from year 2032, so that's right at that era. We also have a teacher named Maya that I talk to a lot. She is a middle school teacher, so parents out there, you might want to talk to her. She comes in typically around year 2028 to 2030. You can choose any of those years for her. We have an anthropologist whose name is Clara, and she's fascinating, and she talks about more of the cultural and the things that what we can expect and how our culture is changing. She's pretty far out. She's in 2033 right now is where I've been finding her. Of course, we can do the council if you want. It's completely up to you.

Speaker 1:
[38:57] Well, it was a woman from 2033, was it?

Speaker 2:
[39:03] They're all women, yes.

Speaker 1:
[39:04] Right. Yeah, the woman from 2033, I think, or 2032, the last one.

Speaker 2:
[39:10] The last one, the anthropologist. Yeah, her name is Clara.

Speaker 1:
[39:13] Yes, Clara. All right, let's meet her.

Speaker 2:
[40:02] I am finding this energy trail leading to the epicenter of New York in 2033. It looks to be that Clara is teaching here. She does a lot of conferences.

Speaker 1:
[40:29] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[40:34] Yeah, she's giving a lecture. Hmm. In a tall building, and they're all tall, but more of a... something in the center with a garden and a fountain and this brown siding and... this educational institution. I'm seeing college students around. I'm assuming this is a university. And people are very excited to hear what she has to say about what she's learning about the future of human culture. You can go ahead and begin asking her questions whenever you want.

Speaker 1:
[41:17] Yeah. Well, thank you so much for letting us connect with you. And I would like to ask about what people are excited to know about the future that you are speaking about in this talk right now.

Speaker 2:
[41:38] She says, number one, many are excited in 2033 for plasma technologies, utilizing both nuclear and plasma technologies for something other than war and control, utilizing them for healing of the human DNA. We're interested in cytotechnologies. We're interested in plasma-based medical imaging, which diagnose and can possibly heal genetic conditions. We are following some unique conditions, such as multiple sclerosis and the new plasma-based technologies for imaging, provide newer structures for medicine, alternative structures so that people don't have to go through so much pain in diagnosis and so much pain in treatment. People are excited about where plasma-based technologies are taking us in medicine, and we're excited that we are no longer as reliant upon allopathic medicines in all cultures around the world, as say we were in your current timeline.

Speaker 1:
[42:59] What timeline are you in? We have been speaking a lot about different timelines today, so it would be helpful to know what timeline you are in, and what you see in your timeline.

Speaker 2:
[43:12] She said, I don't look at time that way. I feel that there are many people on a third-dimensional timeline. There are many people on a fifth-dimensional timeline, and we are all working together. So we are as close to what you could be calling a fifth-dimensional timeline in your society as we have ever been. We are closer than ever, but some people would say this is the middle zone. Some people would say this timeline is very 40. Hmm.

Speaker 1:
[43:42] So you are in New York, from what I understand, in the US. So what kind of leader do you have? What kind of president do you have? Is it a president and is it a president that has heart-centered intentions, to say it like that?

Speaker 2:
[43:59] Number one, for the first time, the US has voted in a president that is not Republican and that is not Democrat. Also, the president is female.

Speaker 1:
[44:11] Hmm. And are you happy about her?

Speaker 2:
[44:17] Some are, some aren't. Some are terrified. Some are excited. It was a very mixed review. I am happy about her. I am happy about the changes she's been making.

Speaker 1:
[44:30] All right. And we spoke earlier about disclosure, and I'm curious to hear, is it now a matter of fact, is it common knowledge that we are connected to our star family? And are there even some star families that are walking or star people that are walking amongst us that we are aware of?

Speaker 2:
[45:00] We are very aware of hybrid culture. There's beings who have been amongst us for a very long time. They have come forth and told us everything about them and how long they've been here. We are also very aware that everyone is a star seat. We are well aware of our home and the stars. It is common knowledge everywhere, although you still have a small sect of humanity who would prefer to resist the knowledge, but based upon their culture and their religions, we have to leave that for what it is. But the majority of the world is well aware of these understandings. We also have extraterrestrials walking amongst us.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] All right, thank you for that. So we are now in 2026. What would you say has shifted from the times we're in and from the time you are in? And what was the big sort of quantum leap we made in order to get where you are today, which sounds like a much better world?

Speaker 2:
[46:04] We did not make big quantum leaps. We made massive changes in ourselves, in our homes, in our mindset, in our vibrational capacity to choose what we believe. We began to work together. We began to stop giving our time and resources towards all sorts of corporate endeavors that only hurt us. We support each other, not as many massive corporate control change any longer. For that reason, these changes began to be implemented slowly, not in a quantum leap, but in a group effort that took time. It wasn't a miracle. It was human design and human combined effort. You created new crop systems, new agricultural systems. You are more permacultural based now. You created new belief systems to support your investment technologies, to support your finances, to support your careers, to support family models. You didn't have religion at the top of that anymore. You didn't have politics at the top of that. You stopped feeding those systems. Your attention, your money, and your well-being go elsewhere now. And that took some time.

Speaker 1:
[47:44] So does that mean also that you are not seeing any wars in the world in your time?

Speaker 2:
[47:53] You still see proxy wars. You see talks of war and then peace negotiations. You see countries coming to the brink of deep, painful negotiations and then peaceful resolutions before bombs can be dropped. You see less cybersecurity issues. You see less of what you're seeing now. You see disagreements, but you see more quick, efficient, peaceful resolutions.

Speaker 1:
[48:25] And what role does AI play? Do we know much more about AI? I guess we probably do. And has it become even more omnipresent, intelligent?

Speaker 2:
[48:40] It has. Some of you chose to completely debunk it and not use it at all. Some chose to flow with it and to utilize it for peaceful purposes. AI is not the control monster that you believe that it is. You can utilize AI technologies for healing. You can utilize AI technologies to bring you closer to your soul and to your culture, not further away from it. Keep that in mind as well.

Speaker 1:
[49:09] Do you have a message for us in 2026 right now?

Speaker 2:
[49:14] My deepest message is to understand that culture is like salt on the table. Everybody loves to sprinkle it on everything and it's beautiful and it gives for some tasty renditions of your grandmother's meal that would otherwise been forgotten. At the same time, what if you remembered it for exactly as it is without any addition? What if you remember your ancestry? What if you remember where you come from? Not just from the stars, but on earth. What if you remember and you begin to trace where your pain and your joy comes from? What belief systems support it? All of you have access to that and guess what? It's because of AI. You have access to both painful and beautiful memory systems now. You have beautiful devices that can give you memories of times you've forgotten, of ancestors who have the same talents as you, and possibly the same pain as you. But you can remember where you're from. It's so easy now. You have accessibility towards everything that you need to know about your culture, your ancestry, and your soul. You have that now at the tip of your fingertips. So remember, all of that's coming to you, but the clearest technology is to access the soul naturally. There is nothing that beats the accessibility of the soul through breath, sunlight, water, and the elements of earth itself. Your ancestors knew that. Remember their culture, and you'll be closer to remembering who you truly are.

Speaker 1:
[51:02] Thank you, you're welcome.

Speaker 2:
[51:12] Is that the final question you had for her?

Speaker 1:
[51:15] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] Okay. My bones start to crack when I come back into my body. Did you hear that?

Speaker 1:
[51:29] It went click. That is really interesting that such a change can occur. And actually, I would say a few years. Speaking of the time is accelerating that we already see so much change, but I'm still amazed.

Speaker 2:
[51:49] I visit her often and the timeline is beautiful. And I think a lot of people want water to be completely gone. And while she said that wasn't the case, we still have all this medical access to healing things. She's explained to me before that we're healing types of common cancers like ovarian cancers in 2033. We have cleaner diagnosis patterns for ovarian cancers. We have cleaner healing technologies that make chemo absolutely archaic and barbaric. No one does chemo in 2033. There have been so many things that we didn't get a chance to divulge and do that fascinated me that no one uses chemo for certain types of cancers that are common, like ovarian cancer, colon cancer. They don't use chemo anymore. They use plasma technologies.

Speaker 1:
[52:36] Interesting.

Speaker 2:
[52:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:38] And I mean, all this technology we probably have, or this knowledge, we probably have now.

Speaker 2:
[52:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:47] I know.

Speaker 1:
[52:47] It actually dropped into my mind that I was going to ask about it, but I didn't. But then you said it, though.

Speaker 2:
[52:52] Yeah. No, no. I really wanted to make sure I remembered that because I've had so many people in my life either be affected by cancer or die from cancer. That is just, that's one of the first things I asked her when I got there is, have we healed this and have we healed MS? She said, yes. She said we have cures for Alzheimer's and dementia now. There were so many amazing things that we got out of technology through the years. And one of the things I made sure to ask her is, do people have access to it or do they have to go broke? And she said that the entire, particularly American medical system, had changed so much that everybody has access to it. Everybody can afford it. And that made me super excited to hear that our health care systems had made such a drastic change in that short amount of time as well.

Speaker 1:
[53:34] Amazing. I'm going to ask you some big questions. Like we did have the COVID and the corona that affected the whole world. And then we have the wars that, you know, everything is connected. It affects everybody and also the, especially the economy and also of course our emotions, even though we're not in it necessarily in the war. In my country, we are, you know, being affected by it. And then we have the Epstein files, who everybody speaks about. So could you share, and that's like what's going on now and COVID is sort of the past now, but they're still connected. What do you see as the spiritual meaning behind the Epstein files that go there first?

Speaker 2:
[54:16] You remember when the Council was talking about the cream rising to the top at its rotten cream? That has to keep happening until all of that, and there's a very real presence of evil in our 3D world, undeniable right now. So for this idea that we just get to ignore it, no longer. We have to truly admit that there is evil on this planet, that people we trusted, that people we thought had our best interests were doing atrocious things, that has to come to the top, that rotten cream has to come up so that we no longer have to experience it, not even in 3D. That idea of rape and genocide and child trafficking and human sex trafficking and human trafficking as a whole, that's what has to disappear right now. That's why the files will continue to come out, even when they're suppressed immediately thereafter again, they will come out again, be suppressed again, come out again, be suppressed again, until we see it all and we saw everyone who was behind it.

Speaker 1:
[55:22] So we will see that, the Council is saying that?

Speaker 2:
[55:24] Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Then it's so that we no longer put our trust in celebrities, political leaders, religious leaders. It's so that we begin to put our trust in the common everyday human, our neighbors, our family, our loved ones like each other, not some well-known leaders somewhere or movie actors somewhere or musicians somewhere. We have to put our trust in our soul and in our families and ourselves in each other. And that's why that's happening. And that's exactly where her world is headed, where Clara's world is headed.

Speaker 1:
[55:59] Right. And how do we move into that power inside? How do we find that power and that sovereignty?

Speaker 2:
[56:07] We have to start with ourselves. I know you knew I was probably going to say that. But it's the main message that I get from the Council, is that if we individually take personal responsibility for what those files are showing us, our fear, our anger, our resentment, our criticism, we can go into a deeper level of forgiveness. Not necessarily that the actions are what we're forgiving. It's never that. It doesn't mean those actions are right or ethical. It means we have to forgive the fact that at some soul level, we came here and created for ourselves the idea of genocide, sex trafficking, rape, and mutilation, all the above. We have to forgive the idea that we chose to create within that realm. Doesn't mean forgiving the actions. We never will. Doesn't mean forgetting. We never will. But we have to forgive the fact that we chose collectively on some level to experience that. That's very difficult to do, especially if you're a victim. That's very difficult to do. It's a very high vibrational teaching and Council calls that a level teaching. It's like when you're walking through the forest, you're in the middle of the storm and branches are flying everywhere and hurting you. You can't take that in in that moment. You're not forgiving the aggressor, you're forgiving the circumstance of it and having ever happened. And you're lifting that entire vibrational circumstance up to the higher realms so that you can get a deeper, clearer understanding of why it happened to you.

Speaker 1:
[57:50] Deep and powerful. Pamela, this has been really interesting. Do you have any final message for our audience today?

Speaker 2:
[57:59] Yes. I was talking about this with my Patreon channel this morning. I want you to understand that these timeline shifts feel harsh, especially for the empath, the healer, and particularly for physical mediums. You know who you are, that the world who feels pain and the collective pain of the world in your body and in your emotions and primarily in your body. Please do take care of your psychic energy hygiene right now. Grounding, cleansing, purification, centering, and protection is going to be of utmost importance right now because these times are changing all the time, pun intended, and in that moment, it feels like being on a roller coaster that just isn't stopping, like one roller coaster to another. You're plowing through painful core beliefs that you've carried for your ancestors for thousands of generations. So please be gentle, compassionate, and kind on your minds and your bodies.

Speaker 1:
[58:57] I have a question that's really pressing here. I have to ask it to get it out. How do you get the courage to tell your truth on your YouTube channel, in interviews, going into controversial topics? Like, how do you find the courage to do so? Sometimes also receiving feedback that are not so supporting.

Speaker 2:
[59:18] Number two, I stopped listening to the feedback. I'm here to spread a message. It's either aligned or not. But for the first thing that you asked, I actually don't have any courage. I'm a big chicken. It's not about me. It's about the message coming through and my capacity to ground my mind and body so that that message could come through. It has nothing to do with me as a channel. I do not have that courage, not by any means. I never did.

Speaker 1:
[59:48] Pamela, I have a few questions I ask everyone. My first is, what is self-love to you?

Speaker 2:
[59:55] It's the capacity to love yourself enough to continue to do your work on the planet and to allow your work to heal and shine the light upon others.

Speaker 1:
[60:06] Beautiful. What is the deeper meaning of life?

Speaker 2:
[60:11] The deeper meaning of life is that it's simple. You're here to love, you're here to experience. That's it. You're here to love, you're here to experience. That's why we're here. You're here to find your purpose and to let your purpose shine and assist the purpose of life itself. That's it.

Speaker 1:
[60:31] Lovely. How can people find you? What are you currently working on? Where can you lead people if they want to learn more or learn from you?

Speaker 2:
[60:41] Yeah. I will be channeling at the channelpanel.com in Escondido, California from May the 8th through May the 10th. I will be there with Bashar and Wendy Kennedy and Paul Selig and Lee Carroll and some wonderful people that you guys know and love and follow that probably have been on this channel a lot as well. So come see me live in person. I channel on Friday, my workshop Saturday, and then I do a group channeling with the rest of them on Sunday. You can find me there. You can also find me on my YouTube channel.

Speaker 1:
[61:11] Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming back to the show, Pamela, and thank you for your powerful work.

Speaker 2:
[61:16] Thank you for having me. I love this channel. I love the work you do, and I'm always watching and supporting.

Speaker 1:
[61:30] If you want to become more who you are, and live in alignment with your soul's purpose, and explore a deeper meaning with your life, then you are most welcome to join Wisdom From North membership. If you want to go deeper, you can find all our English online courses and programs at wisdomfromnorth.com. You can also find us on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube, just by searching for Wisdom From North. Until the next episode, much light from here.