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Speaker 1:
[00:24] Zaz, I need your help with something. I don't totally trust 100% Jeremy's judgment, and he's been bothering me for about four days. I've got a Marlins stat of the day. I got a Marlins stat of the day. And I haven't gone to it because I don't 100% trust that it's going to be a 10, that it's not going to be like a 6 or a 5, that it's going to be a 10. Is that misplaced? Am I doing that incorrectly?

Speaker 2:
[00:51] My first reaction is, what a week. If we're on Thursday and Jeremy's been hounding you all week.

Speaker 3:
[00:57] So glad to be back.

Speaker 1:
[00:58] What do you have, Jeremy? Here's your big chance and we'll judge afterward what the stat of the day was, how good it was.

Speaker 3:
[01:05] How about this, I've got two Marlins stats of the day now.

Speaker 1:
[01:07] Well, you've started poorly because it's one stat of the day.

Speaker 4:
[01:09] You know what they say, nope, when you have two.

Speaker 3:
[01:12] The Marlins have three of the top seven hitters in baseball and batting average. Also, they're the only team in the history of baseball to never lose 12 straight games.

Speaker 1:
[01:27] That look from Zaslow was shock. And so I would say that you deem that worthy of the stat of the day. The second one more than the first though, right?

Speaker 2:
[01:39] The first one I did not care about.

Speaker 3:
[01:40] Well, the first one was three of the top four two days ago, but then I wasn't here and I didn't get to it on the first day.

Speaker 2:
[01:47] The second one, though, you got something there.

Speaker 3:
[01:51] Thank you.

Speaker 5:
[01:51] I like the first one. I like how the Marlins play. The Marlins are kind of like an old school team. They need a better base running coach to be like a full old school team, because that was disastrous yesterday. And apparently this is a thing with the Marlins, but station to station baseball. I like it.

Speaker 1:
[02:08] Have you watched Chandler Simpson at all with the Tampa Bay Rays? Like everyone else in the sport is going power lift and exit velocity, all he does is hit the ball on the ground. His career, his career, still a race guy. He's got one minor league home run. It was an inside the park home run and one spring training home run. And that's it. Four year career. He all he does is hit the ball on the ground and run crazy fast. And it's going to be a double if you don't if you let him have first.

Speaker 5:
[02:36] He's Walt Weiss.

Speaker 1:
[02:38] No, he's an incredibly fast Walt Weiss. He's like Vince Coleman, but Vince Coleman hit home runs. It's actually, he's faster D Gordon. But D Gordon hit home runs. No, he hit, D Gordon in his professional career has home runs plural. Chandler Simpson does not. He does not have a major league home run. He's got a spring training home run and he's got a minor league inside the park home run. I can never get you guys interested in the race.

Speaker 6:
[03:08] This is The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz Podcast.

Speaker 1:
[03:16] He's the only expert NFL draft guest we've had on in years. We got a draft party tonight. Dr. Fred Johnson will be our draft analyst. We don't usually cover the draft. We're going to cover it this year. Please get me a photo of Dave Damishek and his-

Speaker 2:
[03:38] Oh, Dan. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[03:40] Deformity.

Speaker 2:
[03:41] Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[03:42] Dave Damishek, somebody explain to me, because Lucy and Damishek are in Pittsburgh, because we're really going to cover the draft. We're going to do this tonight. We're going to do a live stream. I don't like the draft. That should be interesting. But Lucy and Damishek love the draft. And this photo that we have on your screen, apologies to the audio audience, his right arm, and he's in the Pittsburgh office. He's in the headquarters of Pittsburgh right now. That is the, if you're not in the Steelers offices, that is the headquarters of Pittsburgh. Looks very much like a coach's office. That left arm goes down to his knee. Nobody understands why it is that this deformity is happening. He could not look more uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:
[04:26] Why is his arm so heavy?

Speaker 1:
[04:28] It's weird, right?

Speaker 2:
[04:29] It's weird.

Speaker 1:
[04:31] It's a prosthetic.

Speaker 4:
[04:32] I think this is just him not wanting to go arm around Coach Pat. And he's just like, that might be awkward. He thought it would be awkward to go arm around the coach. So he's like, I'll just let this thing dangle.

Speaker 1:
[04:43] Are you sure he doesn't want to put his right arm either around, like he seems to be hiding?

Speaker 3:
[04:47] It's clearly his left arm.

Speaker 1:
[04:48] No, but he's hiding his right arm. Like it looks like he has only one arm. It looks like he's the guy who would make an argument on behalf of the one-legged punter.

Speaker 3:
[04:58] No, this is a classic. I'm a little nervous about the midsection and the way it's going to stick out if I put both arms behind people and that shirt bunches up. I've been here before. This is just insecurity.

Speaker 2:
[05:11] That's interesting because it is a button-down shirt, so what you're saying could happen.

Speaker 1:
[05:16] We will get answers tonight.

Speaker 4:
[05:17] I think it could be just trying to feel young. He's doing content this weekend with a lot of young people, with Lucy, with Rose. Like this is like, I got to feel young here.

Speaker 7:
[05:25] It's a classic Ricky Bobby situation, where he didn't know what exactly to do with these guys.

Speaker 1:
[05:31] They're in Pittsburgh. MetalArk is covering the draft tonight. You should be a part of our live stream tonight because we intend to have a lot of fun around all of the ridiculousness. Mike Ryan is now a human being who regularly attends Marlins matinees. They're undefeated when he goes. He tried yesterday, Zas, that I'm not going to call it a sandwich. It's a quesadilla, sort of burrito-ish, el machete. It is how much? How much does that cost, Mike?

Speaker 5:
[06:02] Only $26. Oh my God.

Speaker 4:
[06:05] You can feed a family, honestly, with that thing.

Speaker 5:
[06:06] For $26, this is actually in the bargain bin in terms of baseball food because you could legit feed a family with this.

Speaker 1:
[06:15] And so what? Is it a quesadilla?

Speaker 5:
[06:17] It's a quesadilla kind of taco thing, yeah. Yeah, but with ropa vieja.

Speaker 8:
[06:22] What?

Speaker 1:
[06:23] Oh, Trysta doesn't know what ropa vieja is.

Speaker 5:
[06:25] Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 1:
[06:26] It's like a shredded meat.

Speaker 5:
[06:27] Shredded beef.

Speaker 8:
[06:28] Oh, so it's like birria, but without the consomme.

Speaker 5:
[06:31] Kind of like a birria, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:33] My father's favorite food is ropa vieja, and I regret that Tony is not here today to help us with the ingredients and the sauces because I don't think, this is a, it's a cheaper meat, and it's something that is super, super tasty.

Speaker 5:
[06:48] Yeah, post-communism came in cans.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] Right, it's, yeah, it's, I'm not gonna say it's spam adjacent, but it's the, I think, I believe it's like viewed as the cheaper of the meats, but when people in Cuba, you know, had trouble getting meat, this was an affordable kind of meat.

Speaker 5:
[07:04] I think I have that right. It's not close to spam, it's actual beef, but the communist version, there's actually like this banger Cuban restaurant in Louisville, because Kentucky has a huge Cuban population. I think it's like the second biggest one in the United States outside of South Florida. And their post-communism Cuban restaurant, the Robe of Yeha comes in a can.

Speaker 1:
[07:24] I did not mean that it is like spam in terms of contents. I meant in sort of reputation. You think of spam, you think of cheap meat. Yes, generally speaking, put it on the poll at Lebatard Show, is the meat always cheap when it comes in a can?

Speaker 8:
[07:40] So, okay, when I get a mechete in Portland, it's the same shredded beef that comes in the baria tacos, only it's a larger tortilla and it's flattened and sort of crispy and the cheese is melted. Is this different?

Speaker 5:
[07:55] This is different in that don't expect melted cheese.

Speaker 1:
[07:58] Well what she said though sounds like the same, it sounds like they're serving the same Latin thing, the allegedly same Latin thing in Portland that they are in Miami, but what are they calling it in Portland? Because that sounds like the same thing, Mike. It doesn't sound like it's any different.

Speaker 8:
[08:11] Machete, but the beef is just the same quality beef as the baria.

Speaker 5:
[08:15] There's a little salsa verde on it and like I said, unmelted cheese.

Speaker 8:
[08:18] Need the melted cheese.

Speaker 5:
[08:19] You do, but they get it out of this big like, you know when Vince Wilfork was dancing around the ribs, like that kind of meat locker. But the meat locker is set to maybe 84 degrees and they bring it out. I went there early because I wanted to make sure they didn't run out, and I had like four friends with me and we couldn't even finish it. It was huge and not bad for something without melted cheese.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] I really don't like what it is that just happened in the middle of that because I don't think you noticed it, but I actively have an executive producer who's secretly taunting me during the show. And while there's a glass here that is soundproof, I could see and read his lips so that while you were talking, as soon as you said Vince Willfork, I heard my inner monologue, which then made an appearance on Chris Cody's lips as I'm looking straight ahead. And he's like, I have a new wife now. And that's not helping me. That's not aiding me to do this show. You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you. And that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you have no problems whatsoever professing your love.

Speaker 8:
[09:29] Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now.

Speaker 3:
[09:32] You know, me and Bianca didn't make it.

Speaker 8:
[09:34] What?

Speaker 4:
[09:36] That was our interview with Vince Wolfork.

Speaker 1:
[09:38] The me and my wife didn't make it. I remember it as a plane crash. That's how you would describe it. If you were in the afterlife wandering around and you were just talking to other dead people and that's how you'd perished in a plane crash.

Speaker 8:
[09:52] So on the scale of one to Dr. Fred Johnson, where are we at on that interview?

Speaker 1:
[09:58] Well, I was just going to ask you guys the same question because that was a Sui Award winner. It's one of the most awkward sounds in the history of our show. It might go on the Mount Rushmore of awkward. It's why Chris did it to me. And again, not helpful. I've got a long day today. It's the draft. I don't really care about the draft. Generally, I've never cared about the draft. Decide to have a draft expert on yesterday. You saw how that went. Where does that rank in terms of awkward? Because we can't put that in the Wilfort class. We can't put what happened yesterday in the Wilfort class, can we?

Speaker 8:
[10:30] I think it's a cut above. I have a new wife now. It's just a vulnerable admission.

Speaker 4:
[10:34] Well, I have a new wife now. It makes me happy. What a fun mistake that was.

Speaker 7:
[10:38] I think the funniest part is me and Bianca didn't make it. Like he put Bianca on it. That's what's hilarious.

Speaker 1:
[10:45] We didn't make it though. Like that's not divorce. That's not separation. That's people dying at the end of a horrible, tragic thing. We didn't make it is unbelievable phrasing there. The Dolphins. This is a day of great hope for the Dolphins. But I'd like to talk about the University of Miami because if you are on Cal she, you should, if there was prediction market stuff that you could do. Which you shouldn't be. No, you should not be.

Speaker 5:
[11:16] Let's use another name for prediction market.

Speaker 1:
[11:20] If you were doing something that was trying to predict.

Speaker 3:
[11:25] TK predictions available now.

Speaker 1:
[11:28] This one's not available because. That's right.

Speaker 3:
[11:30] Because we have a partner with integrity.

Speaker 1:
[11:32] That's right. With licensing, with rules and regulations, so that you can believe in everything. But if you can take a bet tonight on Mike Ryan and whether or not he has an emotional investment in the Hurricanes needing to have two top 10 picks. That Mike Ryan is going to be crushed. Not like he was when they lost against Indiana, but is going to be crushed if they don't have two top 10 picks tonight. Would you bet that the Hurricanes are going to have two top 10 picks tonight?

Speaker 2:
[12:05] Yeah. Yeah, I think they will. I think Bain and Maui Goa will both go top 10. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[12:10] Yeah. Maui Noa has had the back thing, which has him sliding according to some mocks, and we all know the Olly Connolly story, that the perception is that Bain might fall over there, but I still think Miami gets to, and I think they will.

Speaker 2:
[12:22] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[12:23] It's good for the narrative.

Speaker 1:
[12:24] Didn't your father, Greg Cody, who will be with us tonight have Maui Noa to the Dolphins?

Speaker 5:
[12:29] Yes, he does.

Speaker 2:
[12:30] A lot of people do.

Speaker 5:
[12:31] Maui Noa. For everybody. Well, there's a G in it. We ran into this with Tuah.

Speaker 1:
[12:37] What is it that your father has him at 11, right? Your father has the Dolphins. So what do you want to happen tonight? Does anyone here have some rooting interests in this?

Speaker 2:
[12:48] Dolphins related? I don't really have a rooting interest, Dolphins related, because I don't know how these guys do business. Like, I don't know how, like, we're gonna get a sense of what this front office is about tonight, but we really don't know. It also kind of feels like that with the entire draft. Like, we know that Mendoza's going one, and then after that, even with someone who has high profiles, Jeremiah Love, we really don't know what's happening after number one, which actually makes this draft tonight potentially fun.

Speaker 5:
[13:13] Locally, it makes sense because there's a nice little chunk in that Venn diagram of Hurricanes, Dolphins fans. A lot of people are hoping.

Speaker 2:
[13:19] There should be three Hurricanes in the first round.

Speaker 5:
[13:22] Yes, yes, with an outside shot at four, a lot of Dolphin fans are hoping Ruben Bain falls. That seems to be the consensus.

Speaker 2:
[13:30] That'll be interesting though, like if Ruben Bain were to fall, which I don't think he will, but if Ruben Bain falls to number 11, is the Dolphin fan gonna be mad when they don't select him?

Speaker 5:
[13:39] An interesting storyline too that I saw yesterday on DK Sportsbook was that the team most favored to select Carson Beck was actually the Miami Dolphins at plus three.

Speaker 2:
[13:48] Really?

Speaker 5:
[13:49] That was yesterday.

Speaker 8:
[13:50] Well, I was looking at the odds market and it looks like Malanoa's over eight and a half is actually minus money. So some of the mouth drafts actually have Ruben Bain going before him.

Speaker 5:
[14:02] Chatter that I was hearing around the spring game was Bain to the Saints, Malanoa to the Chiefs. I know Nick Wright is hoping that the Saints pass up Ruben Bain so he can get it. And I don't think Nick Wright is going to be super happy with an offensive lineman.

Speaker 7:
[14:14] Yeah, I think where Jordan Love ultimately goes, is going to basically determine the rest of the draft. You dig? So, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[14:21] Jeremiah Love is, and he's being tossed around as a smokescreen at number three. Number three is an interesting pick. Ty Simpson is favored to go to Arizona, but not at number three. Everyone's assuming Ty Simpson may fall out of the first round or that Arizona may secure a deal that gets another pick back into the first round to go draft Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 5:
[16:40] Hey Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody altogether in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike. Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Quervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Quervo, man, it's that high five a random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Quervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Quervo effect. Keep it, Quervo.

Speaker 6:
[17:23] Dan Lebatard. Football.

Speaker 2:
[17:27] Football.

Speaker 6:
[17:54] This is The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

Speaker 1:
[18:03] Let's entertain what it is that Zaslow is saying there. If Ruben Bain falls to the Miami Dolphins, they can't not select him.

Speaker 2:
[18:14] I will want them to select Ruben Bain so bad if he's available at number 11. It'll be really disappointing if they don't.

Speaker 1:
[18:20] But what you just said, you're gonna go, look, 25 years, okay? The Dolphins, it can be argued, are as bad as anybody in football. No playoff wins. Over those 25 years, they've spent a lot of time telling me and selecting offensive linemen and rarely being able to block anybody. If tonight you're taking an offensive lineman cuz that's the need you have and Ruben Bain's there and that's not the need you have, another offensive lineman after 25 years, I don't think you can do it. I really don't think you can introduce yourself to the Miami market. When we had Jeff Halfley on the last South Beach session, any Dolphin fan who's been here for 25 years might get a little spooked at the idea that if he had one coach to call for advice anywhere in the universe in any kind of crisis, the calls to Dave Wonstadt.

Speaker 2:
[19:09] Yeah, read the room a little bit, coach.

Speaker 1:
[19:11] You cannot have such a lack of history in this market that that's how you introduce yourself, that you're gonna take an offensive lineman no matter what, when for 25 years they've been taking offensive linemen and they can't block anybody. Like, what you just set out for the possibility of happening tonight, I don't believe we will be given that gift from heaven, where the Dolphins, like that'll be as unpopular as we drafted the Ginn family and it'll go on the Mount Rushmore of unpopular things to ever happen on draft day if Ruben Bain falls to the Miami Dolphins and they don't get Ruben Bain.

Speaker 2:
[19:46] Like do they factor that in at all? Like do they say to themselves, all right, you know, there's something that happened with Ruben Bain, you know, that just became public. Maybe he winds up dropping a couple spots. If he is available to us at number 11, do we take him? Like that gets in the good graces of everybody of our entire fan base and he's a really good player. It'd be great value because he's expected to go before number 11, like we kind of have to take him. You know, very similar to where, when the Dolphins selected Laramie Tunsell, no one was talking about the Dolphins being able to select probably the best left tackle in the draft. But because he dropped, it's like, we got to do it. And they did.

Speaker 1:
[20:25] I want to just examine for a moment what I'm asking you guys about. Draft Day, Hope and the drafting of Offensive Linemen. This franchise has done a lot of that, Zas and they can never block anybody. Like this is a day of great hope for fan bases. But the great hope generally revolves around skill players, players I've heard of, players who I feel like I can measure myself how good they are instead of having to read draft reports telling me how good they are. I see it on the field for myself.

Speaker 2:
[21:00] Yeah, playmaker.

Speaker 1:
[21:00] But I mean, you want to go through the list? They've drafted a lot of Offensive Linemen. And it's probably where they'll go tonight as well. That's how you introduce yourself, the new people in charge. That's how you introduce yourself to Miami.

Speaker 5:
[21:15] I understand it's not sexy. Look, I've been there. When I was a Browns fan, they were always picking top five. The year that Brady Quinn actually got passed up on initially by the Browns and then later the Dolphins, I was pissed. You know who the Browns picked over Brady Quinn? Joe Thomas. I was furious. Who's this stiff from Wisconsin on a fishing boat? I want Brady Quinn. I saw Brady Quinn. I actually left that draft for a mail house, went to my graduation, couldn't have my phone on me because George W. Bush was speaking at MDC. And then I later found out that the Browns still got Brady Quinn, and then I knew the franchise was saved.

Speaker 1:
[21:46] We love you, Mike.

Speaker 2:
[21:47] I mean, do they have to pick an offensive, like the Dolphins have three offensive linemen that are pretty good. Do they have to take an offensive lineman in the first place?

Speaker 1:
[21:55] Chris, what happened? You're so busy there looking for Will Fork Sound to embarrass me that you just fired off a Who Make It The Salad for no reason? Who made it the salad? Why'd you do that? Any particular reason? Okay, very good. Excellent work. Tonight at 7.30, we go live, live draft coverage. We can expect some of that as Chris Cody steers our plane into, we're not gonna make it. We didn't make it.

Speaker 5:
[22:15] And we actually have expertise on this. Brooks Austin, a film guy, a guy that knows these prospects inside and out, will be there whenever we actually need to get serious.

Speaker 7:
[22:23] And you guys burying the lead tonight. Tonight is the battle for Zagatos. Greg Cody versus male Kuyper Jr. No sense, no mercy.

Speaker 1:
[22:35] Okay, that'll be big tonight as we, we will have Greg Cody here. It's a very serious night for him and he will be working and he's already told me he wants to be left alone, which doesn't really work for what it is that we're doing tonight. We kind of need his help.

Speaker 8:
[22:50] How do you factor in the time management that it takes to make a list like he does with the catchphrases and also go so in depth on these mock drafts?

Speaker 1:
[23:00] He works very hard. I keep asking him, when are you going to retire? Like are you thinking about that? And he's, the Miami Herald will go down before he does. He just wants to keep picking, wants to keep consulting an imaginary bird to help him with his selection.

Speaker 8:
[23:17] Oh yeah, what about the parrot again? What was that? I just kept going back.

Speaker 1:
[23:19] No, that's a different thing though. The parrot that he goes, very good, out of the side of his mouth with, has nothing to do with the Upset Bird, which he consults and has consulted for 30 years on his picks every week. Two different birds. Get your shit together, Trysta.

Speaker 2:
[23:30] I've mentioned before that the Upset Bird, you know, Sunday morning, Miami Heralds, the Upset Bird when I was a kid was my absolute favorite.

Speaker 5:
[23:39] Was it on Friday? I would always look forward to it.

Speaker 2:
[23:40] Oh, you know maybe it was Friday.

Speaker 5:
[23:41] It was Friday. You would see his dog of the week, his game of the week.

Speaker 2:
[23:44] My absolute favorite thing.

Speaker 5:
[23:46] Same, same.

Speaker 2:
[23:47] I loved it. I loved it so much.

Speaker 1:
[23:48] You know what?

Speaker 5:
[23:49] I would flip the paper over and here's this athlete apologist.

Speaker 1:
[23:51] He just gave me a treasure. Help me do this tonight, okay? Help me give away. Greg Cody just gave me a treasure fished out of his garage. I believe it's my brother's original work was the Upset Bird bumper sticker that he did for Greg Cody and he gave me like 40 of them the other day. We should give some of those away tonight. Not too many of them, but like just some of them as part of what it is that we're doing because the Upset Bird is a local icon.

Speaker 5:
[24:18] It would talk as a bird in print.

Speaker 2:
[24:20] Yep, it would give its opinion on the on the Upset of the week. The Upset Bird would tell you why.

Speaker 4:
[24:24] Wouldn't it start with like a written, ahhh, yes.

Speaker 5:
[24:27] Yeah, and then it wouldn't even be like, it would really force the ox.

Speaker 1:
[24:31] No.

Speaker 5:
[24:31] Yeah, it would force the ox. It would be like Jeff Hawksnettler.

Speaker 1:
[24:35] Yep. There would be ox at the beginning and at the end to signify that it was a bird, but it was a bird that talked and he consulted it on his picks. That is correct, Trist. Ricky Hawksnettler. Stay off the weed. I believe he really enjoyed spelling the name Carl Macklenburg. Mocklenburg would have been better. You guys think it was always an ox. It was, there were different.

Speaker 5:
[25:00] No, it was crudely forced in.

Speaker 1:
[25:02] It was just-

Speaker 5:
[25:02] Which made it funny.

Speaker 1:
[25:03] It was Ws and Ks. That's correct. Something else that's funny. I wanted to ask you guys this. Carson Beck, when he identifies publicly with a school, which school is it?

Speaker 5:
[25:17] I have a pretty good idea of what he will identify with. I think the interesting question is what other people do. He didn't have the greatest breakup with Georgia, and he went to the National Championship game. Granted, he did win National Championships as a backup with Georgia, but he played in the National Championship game with Miami. So I think if he ever has a Sunday Night Football treatment, then he probably introduced himself as a Miami Hurricane.

Speaker 1:
[25:40] But that's what, and so Dylan Gabriel, what does he introduce himself as?

Speaker 9:
[25:44] Oh, that's tough.

Speaker 5:
[25:46] So if you check the Browns website, he's listed under Oregon. I do think that this is player preference. Now usually they just end up going with the school that they most recently played with because that's the one that they had their best memories with. But that's, Dylan Gabriel's a spicy one. Trissa, you're an Oregon Ducks fan. Do you consider him an Oregon Duck?

Speaker 8:
[26:06] I do, but I don't claim him. So that's what I wanted to know when we were chatting about this is like, do you claim Carson Beck? Like, is he one of the great Hurricanes? Biggest game in 20 years. Like, he gave you that over and over and over again. So is he a Kane?

Speaker 5:
[26:27] It's weird. I don't claim him as much as I claim Cam Ward.

Speaker 2:
[26:30] I mean, he played for Georgia for five seasons.

Speaker 5:
[26:33] He won SEC Championships with Georgia. When I think of him, I still think of him in that red Georgia jersey. But also, Carson Beck with his legs. That's his most iconic moment.

Speaker 2:
[26:45] Why do you claim, is it because he went number one overall? Is that why you claim Ward before Beck?

Speaker 5:
[26:49] Also, I mean, I was a big college football head. I was well familiar with Cam Ward, but I think most people were introduced because he played out on the West Coast with Wazoo that you couldn't really find their games all that much. I think most people were introduced to Cam Ward playing football as a Miami Hurricane, and yeah, he went number one.

Speaker 8:
[27:05] I claim Cam Ward and Jaden Daniels for the Pac-12.

Speaker 1:
[27:10] Am I a fool in being ignorant about not knowing the history of how Washington State becomes Wazoo? Am I the one who doesn't? I'm asking you guys because he said that rather casually, and I've heard it referred to as Wazoo. I just don't know why it would be.

Speaker 5:
[27:28] I think it's WSU, Washington State University.

Speaker 1:
[27:30] So they're spelling it the way Greg Cody's bird talks?

Speaker 5:
[27:33] A little bit.

Speaker 7:
[27:37] What do we consider Jalen Hurts? Is he a Sooner or is he Crimson Tide?

Speaker 5:
[27:41] That one's difficult because his last act for Alabama was getting benched in the National Championship Game, and he kind of rebuilt himself at Oklahoma. What does the Eagles website say?

Speaker 3:
[27:53] The uniforms are the same color, though, so I just picture just like the same exact thing no matter what, right?

Speaker 5:
[28:00] Also, do we go by the website or do we go by what they say on Sunday Night Football?

Speaker 2:
[28:05] It's a great question because I click on Jalen Hurts profile on espn.com, College, Oklahoma.

Speaker 5:
[28:13] That's interesting.

Speaker 3:
[28:14] It's always going to be wherever their last stop was. That's what is going to happen on a website. It might not be where they introduce themselves from. Like Dilla Gabriel? UCF.

Speaker 5:
[28:22] Yeah, and that's harder to answer without them here. I know what Russell Wilson used to do.

Speaker 2:
[28:26] That's what I'm looking up right now, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson on ESPN, College, Wisconsin.

Speaker 5:
[28:31] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[28:31] The last place he was.

Speaker 5:
[28:32] That's right. Well, when he introduces himself on Sunday Night Football, it's Wisconsin Wolf Pack or something corny like that.

Speaker 8:
[28:39] Well, with Dante Moore, because of how things went in Dante Moore's college career where he wasn't getting burned, and then now he's a top five pick and stays at Oregon, I think he's solidified himself as an Oregon duck.

Speaker 7:
[28:53] Also Dion Dawkins, he went to You Are Ready Snow University on Sunday Night Live, so I'm not sure what we do with that.

Speaker 9:
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Speaker 6:
[31:41] Dan LeBatard.

Speaker 7:
[31:42] I ain't never met nobody in the world that's done hate on blues clues, bruh. Like who don't like blues clues, bruh? If you don't like blues clues, you're a loser.

Speaker 6:
[31:50] Stugotz.

Speaker 7:
[31:51] Look, you get one paw print, that's the first clue. You put it in a notebook, now what do you do? Blues clues, blues clues.

Speaker 4:
[32:00] Sit on the chair and think about it.

Speaker 6:
[32:02] This is The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

Speaker 1:
[32:12] So you guys are doing two different things, and I'm doing two different things. How does a player introduce himself? Because there's a Key and Peele sketch in here somewhere of the next player who's gonna have seven schools that he introduces himself with. But where Carson Beck identifies or how he identifies as a player, and where other people look at him and say, I consider him this, those being two different things is interesting, right? Because I don't know, the audience at large, I would think, associates Carson Beck with, I've watched him for five years in important games around, important games or, you know, you didn't play in some of them, but still, he played in a lot of big games in a Georgia uniform, more, more, I dare say, than he did in a Miami uniform. So it's one year. Does Miami get to claim him as our guy if he spent five years somewhere else and he had one year here?

Speaker 8:
[33:01] What if he becomes a dolphin? I think then you can automatically claim him as a cane.

Speaker 1:
[33:05] Can you? What does that have to do with anything?

Speaker 5:
[33:08] It does help. It does help.

Speaker 1:
[33:10] So he's just stayed in the market playing football and therefore I'm going to grandfather him in?

Speaker 5:
[33:15] Not a falcon.

Speaker 1:
[33:16] The way that things change, do you remember, Zazz, the report, how quickly things change around here and how they stay the same? So Jeff Haffley says that the one call that he makes in a crisis is to Dave Wonstadt. Dave Wonstadt, like we called him Wonstache. We made fun of the beginning of the end that started with Wonstache. We had chicken fingers at a restaurant. We had the Wani McStashes that were moustache, fried moustaches. Vanilla offense with no nuts was the dessert.

Speaker 6:
[33:42] Punctu-tizers.

Speaker 4:
[33:44] That's why we can't book them.

Speaker 1:
[33:45] Yeah, Wonstache was something that we made some fun of. But I don't think that anyone here remembers that when Wonstache was in good graces with the Miami Dolphins, it was reported that the University of Miami offered him a 20-year contract. Do you guys remember this?

Speaker 5:
[34:02] No, I do.

Speaker 1:
[34:03] It was crazy. The University of Miami was thinking about trying to steal Dave Wonstache from the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 2:
[34:10] So we're talking like around 2000.

Speaker 1:
[34:12] When things were better for when it was all 11 and fives and 10 and sixes before it got to that last, you know, 4 and 12 or whatever happened at the end there. And that was the beginning of the end of Dan Marino, Jimmy Johnson, that relevant, relevant winning franchise important. Now it becomes a regional franchise.

Speaker 2:
[34:28] So it was a takeover after Coker.

Speaker 1:
[34:30] But it, yeah, it's not just a takeover though. It was stealing the head coach of the Dolphins to signal that the University of Miami intended to be good for 20 years by signing Dave Wonstash. You gotta look up for me please what that amount of money associated with that contract was. Because I have it right. It was some, it was a real thing.

Speaker 5:
[34:50] Yeah, it was a real thing, I remember.

Speaker 2:
[34:51] And he ended up going to Pitt?

Speaker 5:
[34:53] He did, he ended up going to the college game after he parted ways with the Dolphins. Did I ever tell you about the most recent conversation I had with Dave Wonstash? It was this decade. And our show made a lot of fun of Dave Wonstad. As Dan mentioned, we did Wanny McSashes. But when I was doing the musical, I wanted him initially to be a part of the musical, and then afterwards I wanted him to promote the musical. And so I had an agent-

Speaker 2:
[35:17] How would he promote it?

Speaker 5:
[35:18] He would, I was like, can I film a video? It'd be great. We have this number one musical that we did. It's a love letter to football. And I had to explain to him that the Dan Lebatard Show, which openly beefed with him, would like, and use him as a punchline, would like to use him, because that would be really funny for our legacy fans as well, if you did a testimonials to how great this musical about the Super Bowl was. And he was on a golf course, and he was very nice, and I do think he kind of forgave us for what we did.

Speaker 2:
[35:47] He's a nice guy.

Speaker 5:
[35:48] He is, and this is like, I'm sorry, we leaned a little too hard on the mustache, but it was all in good fun.

Speaker 1:
[35:52] You apologized to him during this call?

Speaker 5:
[35:54] A little bit, yeah, I had to feel it out.

Speaker 1:
[35:56] And part of your apology was, we leaned too hard on the mustache.

Speaker 2:
[35:59] He's trying to get something done.

Speaker 5:
[36:01] Right, the rumor was that the mustache was there for a reason. That was a rumor, because, I mean, he was doing the mustache well after it had fallen out of favor. The tickler. Anyways, he passed.

Speaker 4:
[36:13] On our show, he's still with us.

Speaker 5:
[36:14] Yeah, in football, he ran, famously. Very rarely passed. He punted.

Speaker 6:
[36:19] Punt, run.

Speaker 5:
[36:21] Le'Shawn McCoy, punt, 45 carries.

Speaker 1:
[36:23] So how are you using past? Because didn't make it like you both can't.

Speaker 5:
[36:28] It was, I probably could have done that conversation a little bit better than that.

Speaker 1:
[36:32] No, no, no. I disagree. Well, this particular conversation you couldn't have done better because there aren't as many words in the English language or any as funny as past being in the middle of that sentence, given everything that we've discussed. That includes the fiery death of Vince Wilfork's marriage. Dave Wonstadt, I want you to just consider that for a moment as they look up the numbers on what that contract is. And Kalen DeBoer just signed in Alabama. And when he signed, and I read this, that I'm reading seven years, $87 million, I'm like, why?

Speaker 5:
[37:09] It's a great question.

Speaker 4:
[37:11] You have the take.

Speaker 1:
[37:14] But wasn't that everybody's reaction on well, that's about as bad an Alabama team as I have seen in a while?

Speaker 2:
[37:21] They won a playoff game this year.

Speaker 1:
[37:22] That's about as bad an Alabama team as I have seen in a while. And I thought they didn't have much faith in DeBoer, except that every once in a while he convinces Georgia, and that's where we are with the, or he beats Georgia. That's where we are with the Alabama program that you've gone from, you need to beat everybody to all you got to do is beat Georgia.

Speaker 2:
[37:41] Well, wouldn't we be using common, not, you know, you just need to beat Georgia, you know, but aren't we using common sense then where, yeah, that's not how this game is anymore. You're not going to beat everyone every year. That game is long gone.

Speaker 5:
[37:54] You get an extension when someone else is interested in your services.

Speaker 2:
[37:58] That's the weird part.

Speaker 5:
[37:58] When your agent effectively curates a marketplace for you. And there was a lot of that talk to some of us, inexplicably so, because we were doing a direct comparison to Xaven's Alabama, to Kalen DeBora's Alabama.

Speaker 2:
[38:11] But this is the end of April. Right.

Speaker 5:
[38:13] It's weird.

Speaker 2:
[38:14] It's weird.

Speaker 5:
[38:14] The timing, like you can understand, like they would announce the extension, and then the other schools interested in his services would find their other candidates. So this took some dialogue, but he got an extension because of other schools being interested in him.

Speaker 1:
[38:28] Why?

Speaker 5:
[38:30] You're asking the right questions, dude.

Speaker 1:
[38:32] It is weird, right?

Speaker 2:
[38:33] Like the initial deal he wants to sign with Alabama had to be at least five years, which would tell you he has at least three more years.

Speaker 5:
[38:39] He ended up losing to Indiana. He did go on the road to beat Oklahoma in a college football playoff game, and we're not too far removed from him taking Washington to the National Championship.

Speaker 1:
[38:48] I'm just simply saying college football fans, serious or casual, has Kaelin DeBoer done a good job? Yes or no? I don't believe anyone's answering that question. Yes, vigorously. Yes, for sure. That's who gets eight, seven year extensions. Like that, you don't give seven year extensions to maybe, you don't give seven year extensions to you've shown me a little bit. If I say to everybody who watches college football, the job Kaelin DeBoer has done so far, now that might not be fair because what we expect from that uniform is it's not a regional team, it's a national team. What would they be on the open market? Alabama football, what's Alabama football worth? If I make this the big business, all of this that it is, right? This is the top of the mountain in college football, which is the highest of the minor league professional sports. It's the second biggest sport in this country. If I put the Alabama football team on the market to all the billionaires and said you want a toy, you want something that feels like a professional football team, you want to play over here, you don't have the five or six billion dollars to get into the NFL club because they won't welcome you in. Do you have five or six billion for a college team? What's Alabama worth? Seven billion dollars? Seven billion dollars. Alabama football is worth twice as much as the Padres. It's worth almost twice as much as the Broncos.

Speaker 5:
[40:09] I think if you were to put it in an open market, the state of Alabama may pay $10 billion for it because it's literally their economy.

Speaker 1:
[40:17] So as we see what is an overt and obvious capitalism and commercialization, this is giant sport now, right? WNBA is a business that has a streaming product. Everybody wants to get into the television business with its programming. NFL is reworking all of its deals. Alabama is its own genre. It's the shark movie. It's the only thing. You can come close with Ohio State, I suppose. But what's been built there, the professionalization of it makes it in reputation, a place that has no business having this, by the way. Like just a city that has no business. It has the tradition for it, but it doesn't really make sense that all of the players would go to that city except for that this is what it's been the birthplace of college football for 50 years. The real Notre Dame, but the real Notre Dame, right? Like Notre Dame did it one way. And then over time, the Alabama program has such a prestige because who are the three college coaches for all time? The three college coaches for all time, two of them are there. It's Bear Bryant and Nick Saban. And you take all the rest of college football and two of them are there. And so that program is worth more than the worst of the NFL teams. Is it not? If I just said to you, somehow we are going to combine Ryan Day's thoughts that college football should also have a draft and NFL is going to actually make this its professional minor league because we're going to merge the biggest powers in sports, pro football and college football. In that setting, when everyone's throwing around television dollars, what's that program worth? Why are you giving this man this money to run that program when that's the worth at this time?

Speaker 5:
[42:02] It's tough too because you have guaranteed labor costs are going to be way lower than in the NFL. Also, it's a publicly funded university, and I don't know exactly how that works with a private enterprise. It probably goes away. Be curious to see where all this goes.

Speaker 1:
[42:20] I'll just read to you the recent history. Missed the playoffs in 2024, lost to Michigan in the ReliaQuest Bowl at full strength, upset by both unranked Vanderbilt and Oklahoma in 2024, upset by 2-10 Florida State last year.

Speaker 2:
[42:36] 2-10?

Speaker 1:
[42:37] And you said he won a playoff game and lost 38-3 in the last one that he played. And it has to be shocking. I bear Brian is rolling around in his grave at the idea of, wait a minute, Indiana is that much better than us? How in what world?

Speaker 5:
[42:51] He ain't the only one.

Speaker 1:
[42:52] How in what world is Indiana football this much better than Alabama football? You just gave that guy an extension.

Speaker 5:
[42:58] Well, tune in to the draft tonight and see who goes number one.

Speaker 3:
[43:01] A guy who Indiana can claim, by the way, even though it was just one year.

Speaker 5:
[43:05] Also, the internet has, Dan, I don't think this is a Mandela effect, right? But there's no internet proof that Miami actually offered Dave Wance at a 20-year contract. I have Canvas, the internet.

Speaker 2:
[43:19] You tell them whoppers?

Speaker 5:
[43:20] No, I remember this. This was a thing, but I don't know if it showed up in a Barry Jackson opinion thing.

Speaker 1:
[43:26] No, it was a Miami Herald. It was absolutely a Miami Herald. I remember the headline. It was that shocking?

Speaker 5:
[43:32] Yes, I remember picking up the newspaper and pointing to it.

Speaker 1:
[43:36] Jeremy, I am worried about the ability to get anything from newspapers that existed in 1990 in the modern age.

Speaker 3:
[43:45] I am worried about getting anything from newspapers now.

Speaker 5:
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