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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we're going to talk to Hyman Roth about running molasses to Canada with his friend Vito. We'll also talk to Peter Clemenza about how to make a really good meat sauce, and we're hoping to talk to our old friend, Sal Tessio, but I'm being told now he may be unavailable. We'll wait and see. But first, commerce.

Speaker 2:
[00:19] Previously on The Tony Kornheiser Show.

Speaker 3:
[00:23] But I do think that ultimately, most people believe Rogers will end up back there. When? Who knows? Maybe he'll do some triumphant thing on Thursday night or Friday night at the draft.

Speaker 2:
[00:33] That theory is out there.

Speaker 1:
[00:34] Maybe he'll take a helicopter right into the middle of it or dive out of a building. Yeah. I mean.

Speaker 3:
[00:39] Never know.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] The Tony Kornheiser Show is on now.

Speaker 1:
[00:46] Can't get enough Aaron Rodgers. Jason La Canfora will be on later. We're going to ask him about Aaron Rodgers, who he hates.

Speaker 4:
[00:53] Yes, he does.

Speaker 1:
[00:54] He hates Aaron Rodgers. That should be fun. The draft starts tonight. We are off PTI tonight and tomorrow, which spares me having to talk about the NBA playoffs at ad nauseam. Wilbon and I differ so much on the NBA. First of all, he loves it beyond comprehension, and I think it's OK.

Speaker 4:
[01:14] Wants a nine game series.

Speaker 1:
[01:16] Yeah, I think the best conference finals and the finals finals are OK. Yeah. But I don't think they should all be four out of seven. Wilbon has this thing where he wants everything to be a good series. He'll say, well, that'll be a good series. They can take two or three. I go, so what? Are they going to win? He goes, well, they're going to take two or three. I said, but they're not going to win. You keep score to find out who wins. It's who advances because they win four games. I don't care how many games it takes them to win their four. I don't think you get points for that. In Mike's world, you do. In Mike's world, if it's a good series, you get points and you're able to say at the beginning of next year.

Speaker 4:
[01:55] It's the game inside the game.

Speaker 1:
[01:57] Yes, it's fascinating possibilities. Then you're able to say next year in October before the season starts, who might go to the playoffs and how well might they do? Because nobody cares about the regular season. Nobody cares. The evidence of this, the Washington Wizards. Nobody cares. Just if you can get to the playoffs, fine. You're in the tournament and then you see what you can do. But this is not the same in baseball. It's not the same in football. Every day in baseball and football is not spent worrying about the postseason. It's not. You care about what happens during the regular season. The NBA, nobody cares. Just what's going to happen in the playoffs. In the playoffs last night, the Detroit Pistons beat the Orlando Magic, avenging an upset in the first game in Detroit. They beat them 98-83. It was tied at the half, so they beat them by 15 in the second half. That's a message. We beat you by 15 in the second half. You thought you were good, you stink. So we'll see what happens there. The Thunder beat the Suns 120-107 to take a 2-0 lead in that series, because Thunder is better. They're defending champions and the Suns were a play-in team. The Suns are now complaining about officiating. And officiating didn't do that to them. They didn't lose because of officiating. They lost because the other team is better. The other team is at the moment the best team in the league. In hockey, Philadelphia is beating Pittsburgh. This was 5-2. This is 3-0 in the series. Philadelphia won the first two in Pittsburgh and the third last time. That's over.

Speaker 4:
[03:37] It feels like it.

Speaker 1:
[03:38] That one's over. Although hockey is the one sport where teams come back from 3-0 more than-

Speaker 4:
[03:44] No, it feels like it's over, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:45] Because they're winning the games by a lot.

Speaker 4:
[03:46] Phillies fans happy for the distraction.

Speaker 1:
[03:50] Yes, because the Phillies stink. We'll get to that in a second. Dallas beat Minnesota in two overtime and the Ducks beat the Oilers 6-4.

Speaker 4:
[03:59] Quack, quack, quack, Mr. Ducksworth.

Speaker 1:
[04:01] Yeah, to tie that series. Edmonton doesn't do well when you think they're going to do well. Now, they get to the finals. They've gotten to the finals two years in a row. Is Dry Saddle out for them? Dry Saddle is back. Oh, he's back now. They won a game the other day. Conor McDavid had no points. During the course of the year, I remember the statistic from the PTI show, when Conor McDavid had no points at all, they were 0-12 and 2, and then they won. So you think, okay, they've got momentum. Then they lose. Then they lose 6-4. You're giving up 6 goals. Maybe one was an empty net goal, but still then you're still giving up 5. Yeah, that's a lot. Shohei Atani last night, I feel like I'm doing a sportscast.

Speaker 4:
[04:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:39] Shohei Atani last night went 6 innings against the Giants, gave up 5 hits, no runs, no walks, and struck out 7, and he did not lose. Dodgers lost 3-0, but they were not his runs. He also did not get on base for the first time in like 80 games or something.

Speaker 4:
[04:55] 53.

Speaker 1:
[04:55] Yeah, whatever it was. It's just remarkable.

Speaker 4:
[04:57] Going back to August 24th.

Speaker 1:
[04:59] The last time he pitched, the last time he pitched, he did not bat. This time, he batted. You said he went 0-4, right?

Speaker 4:
[05:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:08] So maybe he shouldn't bat. Probably should trade him now, right? No, shouldn't trade him.

Speaker 4:
[05:12] I always just love when he jumps off the mat and immediately has to start getting the armor on for his at bat. He's always ready.

Speaker 1:
[05:18] Just great. He's great.

Speaker 4:
[05:19] He really is.

Speaker 1:
[05:20] Mets win. Mets break a 12-game losing streak. Mets win at home 3-2. Do you think the Mets have dropped out of the division race? No, they're tied with the Phillies. They're both 8-16 at the moment. Phillies lost last night, right? That's eight in a row for them. The Phillies are the best team in that division, and the Mets are the second best team you would think, but now the Braves are way ahead. The Nats are ahead of the Phillies and the Mets.

Speaker 4:
[05:45] Hard-hitting Nats.

Speaker 1:
[05:47] Nats scored a bunch of runs last night, scored enough to win.

Speaker 4:
[05:49] Just to rewind back to the Mets, did you see what they did in the eighth inning? It was bases loaded again. They actually got out of it this time. It was bases loaded against them.

Speaker 1:
[05:57] It was Devin Williams in there pitching? Okay. That would have been a mistake. He didn't get anybody out the other night.

Speaker 4:
[06:02] I just love the production work where they just start panning out to the crowd to see their reactions as the count gets two strikes early and then it's a foul, foul, foul.

Speaker 1:
[06:10] At least you haven't heard any Mets players saying the fans are treating us unfairly. They haven't said that. They have not said that. And the manager is still the manager, which surprises me.

Speaker 4:
[06:20] April baseball.

Speaker 1:
[06:22] It's just, I know, in 138 games to go. So they're not out of anything, especially with the Phillies in the same misery that they're in. Nats lose. Nats get six runs. Nats get three home runs and lose the game, because not because of their relieving this time. Yeah, the bullpen actually did well, right? Zach Little and did Little when he came in. Zach Little gave up, I believe, eight runs the last time he was there. Started him again and let him give up eight. This manager must hate this guy, must hate him. Because his ERA, what is his ERA? It's got to be over 15.

Speaker 4:
[06:57] It's only seven, five, six.

Speaker 1:
[06:59] Really? The last two games, he's given up eight each.

Speaker 4:
[07:03] That must be very efficient otherwise.

Speaker 1:
[07:04] Yeah, it must be. So the manager.

Speaker 4:
[07:07] Were you watching the at bat against Olsen? So I'm listening on the radio coming back from sports. I've got-

Speaker 1:
[07:11] When Olsen hit it out?

Speaker 4:
[07:12] Yeah, Booster is listening to Ninjago as we're coming back from baseball practice. I've got the soft sounds of Charlie and Dave. And like Olsen is 0 for 9 since game one when he hit the home run. There's two walks right- I think it was two walks, right?

Speaker 1:
[07:23] Two walks.

Speaker 4:
[07:24] Immediately, he hits it out.

Speaker 1:
[07:26] So I wrote a note to Chris and to Chuck and to you because you're on the text chain as well saying, you know, if he didn't walk the first two batters at the inning, that's a solo home run, doesn't kill you. But he also had two strikes on both those guys, ahead of three balls on both those guys and ended up- and the pitches were not close. It was not like you could challenge. The pitches weren't close. So he puts himself in jeopardy and then Olsen ends it. Olsen's numbers are probably almost-

Speaker 4:
[07:54] Better now. I think they're better.

Speaker 1:
[07:56] Than Freeman's?

Speaker 4:
[07:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:57] And Freeman's going to the Hall of Fame. And Freeman is the-

Speaker 4:
[08:00] The Nats killer.

Speaker 1:
[08:00] The Nats killer of all time. And Freeman's great. He's great. Yeah. Right? I'm not taking anything away from him, but Matt Olsen's really good.

Speaker 4:
[08:09] It's just amazing how that whole deal ended up with Freeman going to the Dodgers. The numbers, age, everything made sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:16] And he's won two in a row. And he's a big part of it. The Grand Slam against the- That's right.

Speaker 2:
[08:21] Yeah, it was just-

Speaker 1:
[08:22] He's a big part of it.

Speaker 2:
[08:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:23] Okay, here's the news of the day. My dog is sick. Chessie, the dog is ill. Chessie has diarrhea. Chessie had diarrhea about a month ago. Then it got better. We gave her certain medications from the vet, Dr. Pearl, and it got better. Then she got diarrhea about a week ago, and I didn't bother to call the vet because I thought maybe it would get better. And indeed it got better. Didn't get good, but it was getting better. And then it went the other way yesterday, went the other way yesterday. One of the things she did was she whined to Nigel. You got her out in the backyard. She had diarrhea then. On her walk, her late afternoon walk, she had it three different times. She woke me up three times in the middle of the night, at 12, at 2 and at 5. Three different times to go out and had it again. It's all liquid. So I got to call the vet today. I have to call the vet who makes house calls.

Speaker 4:
[09:16] When did this first start happening? Because it was when the streets were still covered with snow, so there was some thought that the dog was unearthing bones or something that was buried. Have we pinpointed?

Speaker 1:
[09:26] I feed her curry. She got better. Is the curry that I give her every day? She eats rice and chicken. Now, we mixed in some dog food the last two days and maybe that was a mistake. I don't know. I'm not the vet. I don't know, but I'm hoping the vet will come over. Her temperament is fine.

Speaker 4:
[09:45] She seems right after.

Speaker 1:
[09:46] Other than that.

Speaker 4:
[09:47] Yeah, she's like, I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1:
[09:48] Let's play. Yes. So, you know, Finn was here this morning and Chessie wanted to play with Finn. You know, Finn's cutting on her.

Speaker 4:
[09:57] She has her energy.

Speaker 1:
[09:58] Yes. So, it doesn't appear to be terribly debilitating, but I can't talk to her. I don't understand what she's feeling. I feel terrible about this and I'm losing sleep.

Speaker 4:
[10:11] She's not sneaking snacks when you're going to bed, right?

Speaker 1:
[10:14] No, I don't think so. The refrigerator is in the bucket.

Speaker 4:
[10:16] The chute, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] No, I don't know what she's doing.

Speaker 4:
[10:18] Now, is this going to impact her status in the draft? Do you think she will slide for this? No.

Speaker 1:
[10:23] They'll fix her up and she'll be the best safety in the league. She'll be the best safety in the league. So that's the open. That's all I've got. We'll come back with Jason La Canfora. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

Speaker 2:
[10:34] You're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show.

Speaker 1:
[10:48] This is a really optimistic song. It's called The Universe is Hungry. This is sent to us by Todd Hart, who says it is Todd Hart. Yes, that Todd Hart. From Kohler, Wisconsin, where the guy that brought you post-sex nachos was at a house party where damn tall buildings were playing, and they are good. They were in between gigs between Madison, Wisconsin and Minneapolis, Minnesota. My friend hired them to play at his home for about 40 friends. I reached out to see if they wanted me to submit a couple of songs for your show and they agreed permission below. There are a trio of musicians that were all trained at the Berkeley College of Music. They're currently in Brooklyn. They've played all over the world. This song is The Universe is Hungry. It's very nice. It is. Damn Tall Buildings is a great name. They play in Jason La Canfora. Of course, we will talk about want to bet. We will talk about that eventually. But let us start because we got to talk about the draft. The draft is upon us. ESPN has a countdown clock. They've had it for two days. Everyone has Fernando Mendoza going number one. Do you have him going number one? What is the scouting report on him?

Speaker 3:
[11:52] Well, look, I think you have to look at all these evaluations through the prism of the evaluator. So what is the marketplace for quarterbacks? Well, there's him and there's everybody else. And if you want to get caught up in the five-cent thing, you can. But there's one quarterback who's worthy of a true first-round great. And even that quarterback, Mendoza, it's really a one-year window that you're sort of evaluating him doing these things at this level. But you can't discount what he helped Indiana do. You can't discount that he's clearly wired for this. And the personality might be a little different and whatever. But like, he's all ball. He produced. He shocked the world. And you've got teams clustered at the top of the draft that need quarterbacks. And you had a free agent class that was bizarre with recent busts going for pennies on the dollar, right? Tua for the vet minimum, Kyler for the vet minimum. Not everybody got what they wanted. And so there's like, yeah, he's the quarterback. And the team that won doesn't want to wait another year to take their quarterback. They want to come out of their tank now. And if you're going to take the quarterback, he's the only one that makes sense really in the entire first round, but obviously, especially at first overall. So this has always been baked in the cake. But because while he's a first overall quarterback, because of these scenarios, like he's not Joe Burrow, he's not Trevor Lawrence, he's not Andrew Luck. So people were not going to fall all over themselves to give this team picking out one. Like, oh my god, what about this offer? What about that offer? And to keep coming back and to sort of get like, it's just he... Yes, really good quarterback prospect. No, you can't sit there and say, he can't miss. You can't say he's generational. That's just not what the film says and the body of work says. It says in this draft, he's worth a shot at first overall for that team, absolutely. But no one was really, you know what I mean? This wasn't going to be like people throwing 3-1s at Mike Brown for Burrow and him having to sit back and say, no, I want to keep Joe Montana. I could never live with myself if I traded Joe Montana, because I think Joe Burrow is Joe Montana. You're not hearing those comps from Mendoza.

Speaker 1:
[14:12] No. You don't have any other quarterbacks in the first round, right?

Speaker 3:
[14:16] I do not. My mark is up at fans side and I just have one. Now, do the Cardinals trade into the first round to get him? I mean, they could, but it really, for where they are as an organization, and how much they are tanking, and how they're willing to roll with Percent and Minshew or whatever this year, and they got a rookie head coach late, and they've never had an offensive line, and they don't really want to win this year. Why would you mortgage any potential draft capital to get a kid with high backup upside, who you're, no matter what he does, unless he shocks the world like Mendoza did last year, he's a spare part a year from now, and you're hoping that you trade him for more than you, I mean, you're hoping the fifth year option on him in the first round, like, helps you trade him? It still doesn't add up. Doesn't mean they won't do it. If they do it, though, the people I trust in this industry will be laughing at them. But then again, the people I trust in this industry have been laughing at the Arizona Cardinals for most of the time, the Bidwells have owned them.

Speaker 1:
[15:15] I understand that. I wondered, is there, I was trying to think, because a couple of years ago, there was so many quarterbacks picked in the first 12 picks, and most of them, if not all of them, have done very well, actually. And then there's only this one this year. It seemed odd to me. I wondered if there was an explanation. I tried to make a case for the transfer portal doing this, but then my second reason, I couldn't come up with a second reason that it was the transfer portal. Is there any reason?

Speaker 3:
[15:45] Yeah, I mean, we're still in a weird window here where we're not that far removed from COVID and kids getting five, six years of eligibility in some cases, maybe even more. So that's, and then you had NIL come in in a wave on top of that. So like, you know, I saw some quotes from, I think it was Riley Leonard with the cult saying, you know, if I'd stayed in school, I'd make more money than I'm making. You know what I mean? As the second and third string back up here, like, you know, some of them stay in school for more money, like it costs them back and it doesn't work out for a minute. And then in the end, it kind of works out. So I think we're still in kind of a weird position in that regard. And then I just think sometimes it's, you know, it's just cyclical. But next year, even if Arch Manning doesn't do exactly what everybody hopes she does, whatever, just the way it's lined up, it'll be a very different top half of this draft. And you know, the trades will be for specific quarterbacks in all likelihood. And there's so many teams that right now are still in that tear it down phase of the tank before they get to build it up. But next year, you know, those teams, Arizona, the Jets, you know, there'll be more. They're going to be angling for a quarterback.

Speaker 1:
[17:01] The one thing I am certain of is that we are now getting slightly older players in the draft because of NIL. Because you stay in college, because you can, in most cases, make more money in college than you ever will in the pros because you're not a pro, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[17:19] I mean, you're, you know, you're taken in the fourth or fifth or sixth round and you know what you're going to make coming in, slotted. And even if you, you know, go crazy, you're kind of, you know, you're locked into that paradigm. And there's like a performance schedule, like there's player performance schedules where you can make more than you're slated to. But in college, if you have one good year, you're always thanking yourself. And you could flip that one good year into a bigger program and even more money. And yeah, the whole thing has has certainly shifted. I mean, there's a kid who will be taken somewhere in the first round tonight, probably later than his play would say, because he's already 25 years old. I mean, the team has just turned 25 years old earlier this month. And there's a lot of teams who are just like for a kid who's going to play near the line of scrimmage for me, who's already 25, you know, if I get him in the first round and I pick up that 5th year officer on, the dude's 30 years old. You know what I mean? He's 30, and he's an old 30, because he wasn't just standing on the sidelines in college. This kid played, so he's a little bit beat up, and he's older. And so how much do I value two contracts with him? Because he may just be a one-contract guy.

Speaker 1:
[18:33] Yeah, that's right. Is there a position that the draft is thick with that you paid attention to?

Speaker 3:
[18:38] I've been on offensive line forever, and I'm just sitting back watching all the people who are the mock draft maven saying, oh yeah, yeah, more offensive linemen. And I'm like, really? Okay. Because I've been writing about that at Sports Boom and talking about that, and telling people at Warnabend that over seven and a half offensive linemen is that number, Vegas set that number way too low. And now that number for any kind of value doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but it's not just offensive line, it's where and when they're going to go. And it's much higher than people were projecting. I think there's three or four offensive linemen who, if any of them went in the top 10, I wouldn't flinch at all. Because again, this is just based on the people I talk to, who I trust and who haven't steered me wrong before. And they're like, yeah, those mock drafts out there are ridiculous. Like Monroe Freling's an NFL left tackle. Like Caden Proctor hasn't been fat for 15 months. They love him in Alabama. Like, you people have Caden Proctor going in there. He wasn't me because I only did one month. But, you know, Caden Proctor at 25 or 27 is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Like, so I'm just going off that information. Like, no, you know, there's going to be, the blue chip players at the premium positions aren't that great. And the best defensive players are all coming off the board in the top five. And there's a lot of teams that are going to default to offensive linemen. So I think there could be 10 offensive linemen in the first round. I think one of the three picks could be. I think there's going to be a run. Like five, I think, could go in the first 14. And then that second wave of, you know, I'd say four to six, there's going to be another group of them who come in into the 20s. Because if it's all things being equal, you know, teams like the Chargers and the Eagles and the Texans and the Bears and the Steelers, like offensive linemen is very much in consideration for any of them. And I think there's going to be a sense that if we don't get in this second wave, it's going to be really took apart by Friday.

Speaker 1:
[20:37] That's just on 10, 20, 10 offensive linemen. That's a really big... Is there anyone... You've done this for a long time. Is there anyone out there that you think always drafts well? It's easy to say always drafts badly. We can see that. But is there anyone... And it doesn't have to be the same team. It could be the guy who goes from team to team, where you say, this guy knows what he's doing.

Speaker 3:
[21:00] Well, I mean, there's certainly executives that you really respect. I mean, look, John Schneider, what he did to build that Seattle thing the first time, and yet Pete Carroll had a lot of say in it. And then there was a dip, you know, and they built up a great roster so they could get a little cute, and you know, chasing the value, and they missed on some offensive and defensive linemen, which, I mean, that's going to happen. Like, this whole process is tricky, but then he gets a young head coach, and they kind of flip the script, and it's a different sort of defense, but still a defense of minor head coach. And I just think you look at what they do in their totality. I think John Schneider is pretty special. Like, I think John Schneider is one of the best. And I love what the Rams do, and everyone's like, ha ha, they don't care about the draft. Well, the picks they traded, they traded for known NFL commodities that have mostly worked out for them. And the ones they've kept, they've crushed the middle round. I mean, I think Sean McVay and Les Snead are some of the premier evaluators in the NFL for what they need the draft to be for them. And they're interesting, because tonight's a very different draft for them, because they're sitting on an abundance of picks and they're picking higher than they ever do. And maybe that's a team that throws people a curve ball. Me, like everybody else, has them taking a wide receiver there, and probably the wide receiver from USC, who is a perfect fit for what they do schematically. But, you know, do they sit there at 13 and say, well, maybe we can get into a different crop of players. And yeah, we're mortgaging some of our future, but they've done that in the past and it's worked out okay for them.

Speaker 1:
[22:33] I promised at the beginning of the show that I would ask you about Aaron Rodgers, because the draft is in Pittsburgh and I hate Aaron Rodgers and it makes me so happy.

Speaker 3:
[22:41] No, I just, yeah. Look, I used to be an Aaron Rodgers champion. I was a guy, I think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the league and people would look at me crazy and then a couple years later he's winning MVP's. But yeah, I'm not a big fan anyway. He's worn me out, Tony, he's worn me out.

Speaker 1:
[22:55] Do you expect him to make his presence known tonight?

Speaker 3:
[23:01] Like a WWF kind of thing when he comes running.

Speaker 1:
[23:04] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:04] You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[23:05] Yeah, with a belt.

Speaker 3:
[23:06] Oh my God, the house lights go down and then they change the music and now it's Aaron Rodgers music and Aaron Rodgers is running out of the stage and saying, we don't care about this fifth round pick. I'm Aaron Bleepin Rodgers and I'm back, baby.

Speaker 1:
[23:16] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:17] I don't know if it'd be quite that dramatic, but I mean, the Steelers don't know, no, like they don't know for sure. Like they don't have full certainty here. Like they're sort of, I think, and I don't know that they even call it a wink, because that might be counting it too strong. But like there's a semblance of a mutual understanding that like you're going to make this decision and you're going to make this decision around the draft and more than likely you're coming back. I suspect within a week or so after the draft, before they start their OTAs, that he'll probably say, I'm back. I don't know that he's going to do it in person. You know, he might be on a mountain somewhere and I don't think he's going to be around for a lot of their offseason stuff, even though it's a new coach, because it's a new coach who we played for.

Speaker 1:
[24:08] He played for Minoz, Minoz-McCarthy.

Speaker 3:
[24:10] Yeah, so, but yeah, I mean, it would be funny if he did something during the draft.

Speaker 1:
[24:15] I would like that. It would make for a good show. Okay, plug Wannabet. Plug Wannabet for us.

Speaker 3:
[24:20] Yeah, you can still check me and Boutway, been out seven days a week on Wannabet. We've been very much involved in these NFL markets as well. And look, if you're interested in Baltimore sports at all, a little bit, Orioles, Ravens, you could check me out for now five days a week, but probably soon more on the daily flock. If you go to youtube.com/atbigplaybaltimore. I know that's a lot, but if you just go in the Google machine and put in big play in all caps, B-I-G-P-L-A-Y, and then Baltimore, you will get all the content that I'm doing for them. I'm covering the Ravens for sports on SI. I guess they call it the Orioles for on SI, and I've got a daily digital show. We'll have great guests. Do you eat? It will be fun.

Speaker 1:
[25:08] Do you sleep or eat? Do you have time to sleep or eat?

Speaker 3:
[25:11] I don't eat as much as I used to, thank goodness. I stopped eating the red meat a long while ago, which I never thought I'd be able to do. So yes, I do eat. It's a lot of fish and chicken. I get plenty of sleep. You know, Tony, you got to be hustling. But no, I'm really excited about this project. You can subscribe for free. Get it all there. So, one of that and The Daily Flock, which you can find at Big Play, Baltimore and on YouTube and all those places.

Speaker 1:
[25:40] Thank you, Jason. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 3:
[25:41] Thank you guys. Enjoy the draft. Go Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1:
[25:45] Jason La Canfora, boys and girls. We will come back. John Ourand is going to join us and answer my questions about essentially prime TV and why it freezes up, which it freezes up all the time. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

Speaker 2:
[25:59] You're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show.

Speaker 1:
[26:04] Once again, this is a group with an interesting name, Damn Tall Buildings. This is a group with a song called Can't Slow Down. Michael, if people like Damn Tall Buildings want to send in their original music to get played on the show, how do they do it?

Speaker 4:
[26:19] Send us your music by emailing it to jingles at tonykornheisershow.com.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] They play in John Ourand from Puck now. John knows everything about the business of sports, televised sports, radio sports, all of that stuff. He's like the expert that we go to every once in a while. I need to, I'm going to sound, Wilbon is going to laugh at me now because he says, why do you only have one TV? Nobody has only one TV, but I have one TV. That's been the habit of my life to have one TV. The habit of my life is to hold a clicker in my hand, and when one game that I'm watching, and I don't watch news anymore, I don't watch shows, I don't, I just watch sports. When one game goes to commercial, I go to the other channel. I can't do that when I'm on a streaming channel, when I'm on Amazon, Prime TV, or Peacock, or what, I can't do it. First of all, it takes literally five to 10 minutes to get on, you know, and press the button so that I'm watching the game on a streaming service, and then I can't go back and forth, so the second time I try it, I just throw the clicker in the air and go to bed. Can you explain why so many sports now, I'm sure the answer is money, but it's got to be deeper than that. So many leagues now are partners with television services that old people like me, we don't get, we don't watch. I thought at one point, and I'm going on and on, but I thought at one point, Congress actually wrote laws that the average human being with an average television set had to be able to watch certain games. What has happened, John?

Speaker 2:
[28:20] You know, Wilbond has a kid in high school, so he like, he tries to act younger. Like we spent 40, 50 years professionalizing channel surfing, and now like we have to buy five TVs in order to see the games that are on. So the answer does come down to money, but it also, of course, like everything else does. But it also comes down a little bit to reach. So, you know, when, by that, if the NFL sells a package to ESPN or Fox or NBC, it's seen in the USA. If they sell a package to Netflix, it's seen worldwide. And so, just immediately, with one deal, and every league feels like they've hit a ceiling in the States. I mean, how much more can sports grow in the States? And so, the big growth prospects are all international. And so, this is a very quick and easy way to go international, rather than, you know, ten years ago, when you had to go market to market and actually cut different TV deals out there.

Speaker 1:
[29:29] So, let me ask the specific questions that somebody my age would ask. So, you are saying to me that if I was in Belgrade, and I was sitting in front of a TV, I could get prime TV. I could, and I couldn't get CBS, yes?

Speaker 2:
[29:46] Right, you know, I'm not sure about prime specifically, but if you said Netflix, yes, you could get that in Belgrade, and you certainly could not get CBS in Belgrade.

Speaker 1:
[29:55] So, then why, if they want to make it accessible to everybody in the world, why does it take so long? Once you press on this channel, why does it take so long? Why are there these little circles that roam around? And why does it take so long?

Speaker 2:
[30:16] Who is your video provider? Who do you use?

Speaker 1:
[30:19] Comcast, right? Well, I have Comcast. But Wilbon wanted me to go with this guy Derrick. Derrick is Wilbon's guy. And I just felt at this late stage in my life, overhauling my entire viewing habits would be too much. But maybe I should do it.

Speaker 3:
[30:33] It takes so long.

Speaker 1:
[30:35] Why?

Speaker 2:
[30:36] I have become an evangelist for YouTube TV. And this is why, because I now no longer need a Peacock subscription. I don't need to subscribe to the ESPN app because on YouTube TV, they did deals with NBC and they did deals with ESPN that you see all of that sports programming on YouTube TV because we're paying you a big price. So you're still out of luck with Amazon and with Netflix, but you need those apps. But they're starting to do those deals with the broadcast network saying, like, if you're going to put your programming on a streaming app, we want to be able to make it really easy for our customers to see it. And it is a total joy as a viewer, I got to say.

Speaker 1:
[31:20] So if I go to YouTube TV, which I don't know how to do, somebody would have to do it for me, do I stop with Comcast completely?

Speaker 2:
[31:27] I have, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:29] Can you get Nats games?

Speaker 2:
[31:32] That's the unfortunate bit. They do not have a mass in deal, so you can get Nats games.

Speaker 1:
[31:37] Well, now let's see if Nats have their own 1261 on My Care. I have another question, too. I'm sure you get this all the time. They freeze. The games just stop. They freeze, not for 10 seconds, for minutes at a time.

Speaker 2:
[31:55] And the other downfall, Tony, is if I'm watching it on YouTube TV, the delay is so much. I do follow on social media as well, and I see that the guy scored a touchdown a full minute before it actually happened on my TV. It's totally ruined the communal feel of watching a game.

Speaker 1:
[32:14] If I am Adam Silver, and I have sold the rights to playoff games, not just regular season games, playoff games that people might actually want to see, I have sold the rights to prime TV, and then I watch and nothing happens for three minutes except the circles go around, because nothing, everything is frozen. How do you feel about that? Why is that legal? Why can he do that?

Speaker 2:
[32:45] Well, so right now in DC, in Congress, the FCC, the Department of Justice, they're looking into the NFL, because the NFL has an antitrust exemption, which means that, part of that exemption means that they have to do deals to be on broadcast television. And so these deals that they're doing with Netflix, a deal that they're doing, even actually with ESPN, that was a cable, I would have to pay to watch that. And why do you have an exemption for that? And so that's something that's being looked at now in Congress.

Speaker 1:
[33:18] Well, they got around that by allowing local markets to carry that over the air, right?

Speaker 2:
[33:26] That's their argument, is that every single game is available locally. And but it's still, it goes against the strict language of the exemption. You know, the exemption says that it has to be on broadcast television. And if there's any football...

Speaker 1:
[33:43] It's not.

Speaker 2:
[33:44] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[33:45] It's on prime. Uncle Big Al, I love him, but it's on prime. And then again, if it doesn't freeze up, and if I can watch it, when I want to go to something else, it takes five... You can't do it. It's not an easy back and forth, as it is, for example, with, I don't know, the Golf Channel and ESPN. It's easy to go back and forth.

Speaker 2:
[34:09] Here's the problem, though, is that the TV ratings, or I guess I should say streaming ratings, the number of people watching it, they're pretty high on Amazon Prime. Thursday Night Football rated pretty close to Monday Night Football, for goodness sakes. And so everything that you're complaining about is a valid complaint. But what the league see is a lot of other people, they're reaching a lot of other people that maybe aren't connected to cable, or maybe aren't watching broadcast television.

Speaker 1:
[34:40] This is my fear. This is my great fear that it's another example of where I am left behind and I have to sit in a corner and eat pudding because I can't watch sports anymore. They just don't care about us anymore. When did this change? Because I think it's tipped. I think it's tipped over to the streaming services and the YouTubes and all of that. When was it okay to disenfranchise people in their 50s and 60s and 70s?

Speaker 2:
[35:07] I'm going to suggest to you that it was okay in 1979 when ESPN launched and all of a sudden you had to buy cable TV in order to watch sports. In fact, I think what you're seeing is bizarrely, streaming is happening and a lot of sports is going to streaming, obviously, but what you're also seeing is cable channels are losing subscribers hand over fist and you're seeing a lot of those sports return to broadcast. I mean, we've seen more NBA games on broadcast television this season than we ever have, I think ever, in the history of the NBA. Major League Baseball, Sunday Night Package went from ESPN to NBC, it's on broadcast television. So there is a lot that's coming over to broadcast television but there's also a lot that's going to streaming. So if you want to see everything, I mean, if you're a poor Yankees fan and you just want to see Yankees games, you have to subscribe to, I think it's like five or six different services. But some of those services are over the air broadcast services as well.

Speaker 1:
[36:09] Is Wilbon correct that if you have one TV, you're a loser and then you have to have more than one TV? Is he correct? Maybe he's correct.

Speaker 2:
[36:16] I think he is. I only have one TV. So you're okay. But I think he is correct. I think the kids today, they have four TVs mounted on the wall with it. It's like going to a sports bar almost. My goodness.

Speaker 1:
[36:28] So this is going to get worse because more leagues are going to sell packages to more streaming services because that's their global intent.

Speaker 2:
[36:38] Isn't... I'm not sure if it's going to get worse because if you're these global streaming services, do you care about a Wednesday night baseball game or a February basketball game? What these streaming services really care about are big events and anything that kind of looks like a big event. That's why the focus is on the NFL because really any NFL game is a big event. But Netflix only wants big events. Amazon only wants like that Thursday night football, that one package and big events. YouTube is trying to get in. So I'm not entirely certain that these streaming services are all in to do what ESPN and Fox Sports One and all these sports only cable channels did. I don't think that they're set up that way and I don't think they have an interest in really paying that kind of money for that.

Speaker 1:
[37:29] Is Netflix going to get Sunday night football, take it away from NBC?

Speaker 2:
[37:34] I think not. I think at least until 2030, it's going to be on NBC. I just have a feeling that everything that Tony was just talking about, and everything that's happening in DC right now, I just think that the NFL is going to pause before taking the most watched show on broadcast television off of NBC. That's my guess.

Speaker 1:
[37:58] I could live with the freezing up. I can live with the freezing up. I can't live with the impossibility of changing from channel to channel, which I've been used to for so many years.

Speaker 2:
[38:10] I know, it's terrible, isn't it?

Speaker 1:
[38:11] It just takes forever. It's like you're leaving one state and going through customs to get to another state. It's just, it's so long. You lose your desire, you know, you just lose it. It's just really weird. It's really weird.

Speaker 2:
[38:31] And Amazon Prime always says their post game show raged better than any other post game show. And I'm like, of course it does. You get up and change the channel. Yes. I'm just kind of stuck on it.

Speaker 1:
[38:41] Yeah. No, I think that's true. Well, they picked off. Prime just picked off the NBA playoffs. They just picked it off. I mean, that's where you have to go now. I don't know. It just. Then if I have this great fear, if I sign up for Prime, boxes will come to my house five days in a row, boxes of stuff that I didn't want. Depends. It'll be coming. Depends. Anyway, John, thank you so much for indulging in nonsense. Thanks, John.

Speaker 2:
[39:09] I love coming on any time you ask, Tony.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] John Ourand, boys and girls, we will take a break. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

Speaker 2:
[39:18] This is The Tony Kornheiser Show.

Speaker 1:
[39:38] That is the Zama, Z-A-M-A, Zama, middle school guitar class in Japan. Just the best. Plays that. Love that. Zama middle school, really like that.

Speaker 4:
[39:48] Great rhythm. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:49] Wanna do the Bethesda Bagels ad for me? Yes, Bethesda Bagels, we love them. You will as well. Just go to bethesdabagels.com for the location in the DC area nearest you, then pop on in and you'll be thrilled. Before we get to the Mailbag, let me just say, seems I've got to have a change of scene, because every night I have a strange stream in prison, by the way, it could have been, I've got to leave before I start to scream, if someone's locked the door and took the key. You feeling all right? I'm not feeling too good myself. That's in honor of Dave Mason, who passed away yesterday. Two days ago, yeah. In honor of Dave Mason. That was his song originally, but Joe Cocker did it better. Joe Cocker covered it brilliantly. Did it better. Thanks to our guests today, Jason La Canfora and John Ourand. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Odyssey. If you can't show through Apple, please leave us a review.

Speaker 4:
[40:31] Big shout out and thanks to Kevin Conway, our 2026 Bracket Challenge winner. He has accepted our offer of a polo shirt and maybe we'll throw in a hat as well. We realized it might have been a little bit hard to send my dad's chips to Ireland.

Speaker 1:
[40:45] Yeah, because he won in Ireland. Yeah. And the chips may not work. Yeah, that's tough to get through customs. Going across the ocean. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4:
[40:52] I just want to guarantee the crisps.

Speaker 1:
[40:54] Yeah, so yeah. Yes, thank you. From Shad. Littlest little, not at nine pounds three ounces. This is Miriam. Shad, a grandfather now. Started listening as a 20-something punk and now a 62-year-old grandfather. Long strange trip it's been. Jeff Pigott, our friend Jeff Pigott in West Des Moines really understands golf. He wanted to share some observations and lessons from Matt Fitzpatrick's bag, which now has two wins in 2026. First, the iron set up, Mattie plays two different models of ping irons. The four iron is an I-210 introduced in 2018 and it's five through nine. Our ping S-55 is introduced in 2013. He's playing S-55 since turning pro 2014. Second, he has five different club brands in his bag from top to bottom. Key takeaways, newer isn't always better for every golfer. Play what works and unless you're cashing big checks from the manufacturer, quit limiting yourself to one brand only. Find what works for you regardless of the badge. A good fitter can help you navigate the club selection to optimize your game. Having a kid to play D1 golf is also helpful.

Speaker 4:
[41:57] No mention of the Bettenardi putter? Come on.

Speaker 1:
[41:59] No, it doesn't say that. But it's interesting.

Speaker 4:
[42:01] We need to talk about the lofts on the Mizuno M13s.

Speaker 1:
[42:05] You should talk to Jeff about all this stuff. I don't understand any of it. I just think I can't hit this club. David Driscoll in Chapel Hill. As the founder of eQuantum, a name well suited to the horse being named, I am wondering, eQuantum, I guess, I'm wondering if I can be the official thoroughbred naming consultant for the show. Should you or Greg Garcia decide to purchase any foals in the future, I can provide a list of jockey club approved names for you to choose from that will punningly reflect the sire and disdaf sides of the pedigree and or any desired themes or in jokes. We also donate all of our proceeds to various eQuantum, which is knighted additionally as the head rules official for the Northeast Conference Golf Championships. I'm assuming you're already planning to attend the Men's Conference Championship at Turf Valley outside Baltimore this Friday through Sunday to watch your beloved Binghamton Bearcats in action competing for the automatic bid to the NCAA regionals. Anyway, please tell Ariel Helfer to eat it. Zero for lifetime at the plate facing Sam Neal, he writes.

Speaker 4:
[43:04] Love it.

Speaker 1:
[43:05] I'm facing family with David Driscoll.

Speaker 4:
[43:07] Devastating curveball.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] I didn't know that we were in the NEC. I thought we were in the far west regionals.

Speaker 4:
[43:14] I will drive you to the golf course if you show up to the first tee, full set of Binghamton clubs and just say, are you the 848?

Speaker 1:
[43:20] Yeah, I just, wow, the Bearcats, it's this week? Wow, good luck to them. Yes. John, Jonathan, writing from a small town outside London, Ontario, you are correct. John, J-O-N, is short for Jonathan, and the other less classy one is John, J-O-H-N. My father and his brother were the only ones who called me Jonathan, and I disliked the name growing up, but now that I'm older, and when people spell my name J-O-H-N, it upsets me even more. I have been tempted to go back to Jonathan in my adult age, but I am also not classy enough to use that name either, so I will stick with John. Fun fact, in the men's basketball league, there are two Johns and one Jonathan, which goes to show how I play in a classy basketball league. We have a cousin and a nephew, Jonathan, right?

Speaker 4:
[44:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:05] He's always Jonathan, he's never been John. Never John.

Speaker 4:
[44:08] I love that I'm now old enough to see the trends, like every decade, the trends in these names, sort of, you see the ebb and flow.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] What's the new, what's the hot name now?

Speaker 4:
[44:15] Like Owen, big name the last 10 years.

Speaker 1:
[44:18] Owen?

Speaker 4:
[44:18] The ER names. The ER names still going strong?

Speaker 1:
[44:22] Yeah, yeah, the ER names, the British lower class names.

Speaker 4:
[44:26] Thank you. Oh, that was, you're just getting more pointed with that.

Speaker 1:
[44:29] No, that's, I mean, because that's what it is. They're job names, they're job names. Man and the people. Right?

Speaker 4:
[44:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:34] Baker, they're job names. Sure, from Andrew in Bentonville. Sure, Tim and Michael and Mark are fun names, but Blake or Balake, as it is said, Balake, as it is said by some, is even better. I graduated high school with five, yes, five Blakes in a class of just 36 students. Needless to say, creativity was required for our teachers to keep them all in line. Two of their nicknames have slipped my mind, but three remain constant due to how they've been saved on my phone for nearly 20 years. One of these three one Blake was named the Reverend due to his seminary aspirations after graduation. The second's middle name was Robert, so he was obviously Bob. The third, final Blake being superior to them all was referred to as the Colonel, as his last name was Sanders. Alas, he hasn't become involved in any fried chicken business thus far in life. It's a lot of Blakes. That's his name. That's a surprise. Jonathan Boyd, Huntsville, Alabama, dear Captain Shoe Retailer, Potato Farmer, Ron, you think there are a lot of Steve's out there? Please, ask anyone born between 1960 and 1980, just how many other Johns, Johns, Jonathan's, Jonathan's, Jonathan's, they know. As an aside, it once took us five Johns to move my wife's ficus tray. PS., I'm not even going to ask to be the official Jonathan, I figure that's already taken. This comes from what I said about Jody Forrestott's brother, that they were all Steves, and he became Lance.

Speaker 4:
[45:55] I want to know more about that ficus, little ficus connected.

Speaker 1:
[45:57] May I be the official, this is Jamoke Davis, may I be the official Jamoke of the show? I know my name is just behind Tim for most common names. I have a shake at Arby's that people think is my name, and I hear Jamoke said in movies and comedy shows, but alas, that is not my name. I thought Jamoke was an insult. Yeah, I think it's Jamoke, I think it might be Jamoke, is how we pronounce it. Jamoke, so yeah, I don't know. Tim Collins in Amherst, New Hampshire. Tim Collins here, I was dangerously close to being named Tom Collins, a trick my dad played on my mother until she came through in the throes of labor and said, wait, I can't name my kid that, I think I'm a lush. Tom Collins is a famous cocktail. My dad had a vision that I never have to pay for a drink in my life as I could walk into any bar and declare Tom Collins is here and voila, free gin. While my dad's delusion was denied, it affords me the chance to claim my birthright after having my e-mail read on your fine program. While I'm playing my Tim card, could I also ask you tell my lifelong pals, Bonnie Walker and Zach Daniels to eat it? Sure. But how did we get involved in this? Brett Bossy, Lee New Hampshire. Yeah. I'm hoping I can be the official Brett of the TK show. I don't know if Brett Hobbs already laid claim to it. I'm happy to go head to head with him, round the golf, rock, paper, scissors, fight to the death. You can decide the terms. Fight to the death seems extreme.

Speaker 4:
[47:13] Also, Brett Whiskens.

Speaker 1:
[47:14] Winn Mossman, who we know from Moscow, Idaho. Dear Uncle Captain Doctor, Tim Mark. Come on, everyone knows Winn's Winn. It's Tim's and Mark's except my uncle Tim and my former law partner and now local jurist Mark. Winn's, I don't know that many Winn's. He's the only one that I know. I know early Winn, but it's a last name. Yes. From Albert Macias. My middle name is Mark. Can I join the auxiliary? From Ted Kinniston in Cincinnati. My first name is Ted, not Tim. Laura Little Sue Hidel calls me Tex, not sure why. I've called the Cincinnati equivalent of Ingleside on her behalf. She'll love standing with a group of people around a piano and singing. It's funny. Trey Watson, Lexington, Kentucky. Can I be the official T-R-E-S, pronounced like Trey but spelled with an S of the show? I know there aren't many of us, but I still think it's prudent to go ahead and lock it down. My sense of Trey is that it usually is short for the third. You are something the third and you are called Trey. I didn't know. T-R-E-S, I have never seen. I assume that's the French. That's the French word for that. I assume that's the French. Mark Hughes in Ashton, Maryland. Hey, skipper. On behalf of all little's name Mark, I would like to thank Mark Feinstein for acknowledging the heated Mark versus Tim rivalry and representing the Mark so well on Monday's podcast. Well done, sir. Tim Kirkton, the ball is now in your court. What do you got to do for the Tims? Blaine, Atlanta, Texas. Atlanta, Texas? There was an Atlanta, Texas. Apparently so. It seems to be Dr. Ron, seems to be a lot of Tims and Marks on the show. To my knowledge, I'm the only Blaine that is emailed. Does that make me the official Blaine of the show? I'm certainly the only resident of Atlanta, Texas to email unless former Packers GM Ted Thompson ever emailed. Can I be the official Atlanta rabbit of the TK show? I never heard of Atlanta, Texas and I think most of us think of Atlanta, Georgia. Yes. Josh Hearth, Cape Coral, Florida. Many years ago, I had requested the title of the official Subaru ambassador. However, this past weekend, I sold my legacy GT and for the first time in years, I'm son Subaru. Please consider this my formal application to be considered the former official Subaru ambassador of the show. For the record, Josh Cromwell is right about our first name. In fact, while listening to the Mailbag, whenever another Josh mails in, as soon as I hear you mention the first name, I briefly perk up and get excited till you read my email, only to realize then that I haven't e-mailed you in months. This is why we named our son Zeke. Not going to see a half a dozen of those in every class he has, is he? He's from, Josh Hurth from Cape Coral, Florida. Zeke always reminds me of the Jerry West nickname, Zeke from Cabin Creek. It was an insult to Jerry West. I know Jerry West overcame all that. Yes, he did. Jerry West, just the greatest career ever in the history of the game of basketball. He's the picture of the league. He is. Paul Nelson, now of Rockville, Maryland. Did I hear the name correctly from a letter on Monday's show, Earl Brewer being a lacrosse coach at Coastal Carolina? I was at McLean High School in the early 80s, and we had a lacrosse club, and the coach my senior year was named Earl Brewer. If that's him, well, I guess as is traditional here, please tell him to eat it. Just kidding, he was an awesome coach. Tell him Paul, Ferd, Russ, and Pat send their regards. I assume he listens. I would guess so, yes. He listens from Brian Sunox in St. Petersburg, Florida. I'm delighted to share that I've started a new job where I'll make more money, work from home, and enjoy better benefits with one major caveat. Can you guess who my new health insurance provider is? That's right, cognitive indifference. It's calculated indifference. Gives no aid. By the way, I have this. Atlanta, Texas is a small town in Cass County, East Texas, known for its rich railroad history, small town charm and proximity to outdoor recreation. I don't know. We're all in proximity to outdoor recreation. Go out the door. Go out the door and run. We're all. Sean Green, WDEL Sports Director, News Reporter, Wilmington, Delaware. After listening to your discussion with Ron Flatter on Friday about Kenny McPeak being excited to name a horse after LeChiserie, I felt I needed to check the Jockey Club registry to see if we could pull off what we all want, the Tony Kornheiser Derby of available names. Imagine LeChiserie breaking out of the gate quickly, only to see Littles bounce to the outside of Chuck and Roxy and do wear white. Connective Tissue leads Mr. Tony's Mailbag at the half mile pole, but surprisingly Nigel has always taken. He finished second in a race in Kentucky two weeks ago. Into the far turn, there's mass confusion as the U of Khan and Marquette suddenly appear and threaten to win everything at long odds. Down the stretch, they come, flush the mouse, lives up to his name yet again, but there can be only one true outcome of a Tony Kornheiser Derby, a Hardy LeChiserie for the win. Unfortunately, there can be no chatter as a horse by that name ran second in a race earlier this month in Kentucky, but we all know that hasn't existed since 2019 anyway. This is from someone signs the name Tokyo Tim. Yet another Tim here and I can assure you as someone connected to the military community here in Tokyo, Japan, there are many others even non Tims who are following your show and watching PTI on the Armed Forces television, Channel 4, we don't go up to 1261. My morning routine while I listen to this high-quality podcast in the car includes a stop at our neighborhood convenience store, a konbini in Japanese parlance. I purchased one of those aforementioned delicious egg salad sandwiches, sando witches, a very nice machine generated cafe latte and a physical copy of the Japan Times English newspaper that includes articles from The Washington Post and other international publications. My total cost for these purchases is 750 yen or about $4.70. Damn good deal as far as I can see. Included are a couple of photos for those watching on News Channel 8. I cannot say how much it means to those of us living abroad that we can maintain a cultural sports connection through PTI and your always entertaining podcast. Do not underestimate your impact on those of us in the military and expat communities overseas. All the best to you, Michael Nigel and the team from all of us in the Far East. Isn't that nice? He also says, tell Paul Lundy and John Theck to eat it. PPS, since I live in Japan, I'll see what I can do about a haiku next time. All due respect to Chad. Yes, and he's got pictures of this with a note, who made the egg salad sandwiches, of course. From Steve Gilmore in San Angelo, Texas. Amazon is freezing up when you're watching the game. Try putting some Neosporin on it, see if that helps. One more, Ted Smith in Pittsburgh. Hearing about Coach Williams' ace reminded me of a hole in one story that I witnessed. I was playing a tune up round with my sons for an annual family golf tournament when my youngest, who was 14 at the time, shanked a hybrid deep into the swamp on a long par three. Upon reteeing, he proceeded to hit a beautiful high draw towards the flag to two hops right into the cup. He threw his hands into the air and immediately ran directly to the green with his club still in his hand in celebration. As any proud father would do, I drove up in the cart, stuck my hand out for a celebratory handshake and said, nice par, kid. Yeah, because that's what it is. Dad goals. Second shot, nice par, kid. As an aside, I'm frequently mistaken as a Tim by casual acquaintances, Ted Smith. That's funny. If you're out on your bike time, everyone is always to wear white. Now, if there's anything I can do for you, then I certainly hope you'll die soon.

Speaker 3:
[56:57] So why don't you pick up the receiver?