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Speaker 1:
[00:00] David Dobrik recently said that he peaked in high school. He's like, I'm glad I was successful after high school, so that way, at least I had success, he goes, but I definitely peaked in high school. And I was like, it's giving Matt, it's giving he peaked in high school. I think probably because he just had more hair and stuff back then, he probably, you know what I mean? He's like, I was better looking. Hello, welcome to the Just Trish Podcast. It's Cool Girl Thursday. I love a Thursday. I love a Thursday, the most relaxing day of the week. Bolognese night. Today's episode is brought to you by Peppuccinos. Oh my God. Is that what they're called? Peppuccinos? The one that they squirt everywhere. It's like a jalapeno, but it's not. Is it a peppuccino?

Speaker 2:
[00:55] I think you're right.

Speaker 1:
[00:56] I think peppuccino. Cause we talked about them before. They're so, I can eat peppuccinos now. Seriously, like 10. I had 10. I had 10. That's why it took me a minute.

Speaker 2:
[01:03] You went to the drive-thru and ordered 10 peppuccinos.

Speaker 1:
[01:05] No, I went inside and got 10 peppuccinos. And I was like, well, cause you, okay, new hack. Okay, not sponsored right now, but new hack for that. Usually I had to wait till 10.30 to order. But like, I was like 10. It was like 10, 10 when I got there. And like people were already going in, like me and all the construction workers were going in at 10 and 10. And it was like, we ordered at 10.15, the food came out at 10.20. I would have been here like way faster but I was on a call. But I had like 10 peppuccinos cause you can just like take them yourself there. I had so many peppuccinos. They're so good. They're kind of like a little spicy, a little tangy, a little sweet. Oh, I feel like it gave me a little high. I feel a little rush. You eat a peppuccino? Have you ever had them there?

Speaker 3:
[01:41] I like them.

Speaker 1:
[01:41] You had them?

Speaker 3:
[01:42] Are they called banana peppers? I don't know, they have different names.

Speaker 1:
[01:45] Maybe it's a banana pepper. We did look this up. I don't know. I can't remember.

Speaker 2:
[01:48] I remember we talked about it because put some in the pizza box.

Speaker 1:
[01:52] Yes. Oh yeah. That's kind of a sign.

Speaker 3:
[01:54] Yeah, I do love them. Oh my God. If you eat something spicy, I like those.

Speaker 1:
[01:58] Because it's just subtle. It's like burning my mouth. It's like just a little of the juices.

Speaker 3:
[02:02] It's something between a pickle and a jalapeno.

Speaker 1:
[02:05] Never.

Speaker 2:
[02:05] It is a peppuccino.

Speaker 1:
[02:07] I thought so because I stuck in my mind and now I'm like on a peppuccino kick. You like peppuccinos over there?

Speaker 2:
[02:12] No, but-

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Can you try? We need a Patreon where you're just trying things.

Speaker 2:
[02:17] Oscar tries things?

Speaker 1:
[02:17] Yeah, because I feel like-

Speaker 3:
[02:19] The Fear Factor episode.

Speaker 2:
[02:20] That is kind of giving that.

Speaker 1:
[02:21] Can I say? Because I was like you and I am like you. I am picky. I am like picky. But then it's like when you just try a peppuccino, like it's crunchy. You like it. Like you like a crunch.

Speaker 2:
[02:31] You're right because I've never tried it. I just assumed it's something I wouldn't like just by looking at it. So, you know, maybe this is the year of the horse, the year of getting on up and trying things, I suppose.

Speaker 1:
[02:45] But by the Peppuccino, there was another thing I was going to have you try.

Speaker 2:
[02:48] Was it something fishy?

Speaker 1:
[02:50] No. Oh, like a fish, like a fish, tin fish.

Speaker 2:
[02:53] Yeah, something from the tin fish.

Speaker 1:
[02:55] I mean, that one is diabolical. I'm trying to steer you in the right direction. Was there a healthy one? Something I ate and you like never had it was like peanut butter on celery or something. Remember one time I was like, I have never had that either. Yeah, I've never had celery. Not even peanut butter, like the ants on a log where you put like, Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[03:12] Celery on its own, just like a snack.

Speaker 2:
[03:14] No, I mean, I feel like I'm going to have a Trisha moment. Someone's going to find a clip of me eating celery somewhere, but I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[03:20] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[03:21] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[03:22] That is crazy because like I don't love like veggie, even veggies, but like celery is like refreshing. And then like back in the, you know, when you're a kid, you put like peanut butter. You're not a peanut butter person.

Speaker 2:
[03:32] It depends on the circumstance.

Speaker 1:
[03:33] What's the second chance you like peanut butter?

Speaker 2:
[03:35] I like a PB&J and I like apples and peanut butter. I get down with apples and peanut butter.

Speaker 1:
[03:41] Well, then celery and peanut butter is even better. It just hits better. It's a better combination. I never heard of apples and peanut butter, but like if you like that, then you'll like celery and peanut butter. It's just so good. I just am so much happier when I just have some food in me.

Speaker 2:
[03:53] That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:55] You already know. You know, yeah. It's like if anyone, it's actually, we talked about this in it, but it's a real trigger. It's like, what is it? Like almost like a real disease, like maybe not disease. That's like the wrong word. Like what is it? Like it's a real problem when I don't eat what I want to eat. Like it's so weird. It's like a really weird, I wonder if it's like mental illness or if it's like eating something, like something I have with food, like a problem with I have with food. Cause it's like, I do get like angry. It's like really weird. I mean, I can handle my triggers now. Obviously, I just eat what I want now, but like, it's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[04:31] I think just when you put so much weight on food.

Speaker 2:
[04:34] So much what?

Speaker 1:
[04:35] Yeah. How much weight? Who has weight?

Speaker 3:
[04:39] Then when the food is not right, then it's a big trigger.

Speaker 1:
[04:44] I know.

Speaker 3:
[04:45] Like if I have a day where I'm going to have one meal that day because of whatever work and things, that meal has to be perfect. And if it's not-

Speaker 1:
[04:52] Oh, you get like that too then.

Speaker 3:
[04:53] It ruins, it just ruins it. Like I was just like, I just write it and I eat it all kind of thing.

Speaker 1:
[04:58] Very me. Oh, I'm very much like if it's wrong, like just don't even think about giving me any other food. But then when I have something wonderful like yesterday, your charcuterie board of steak and asparagus and watermelon eggs, it was like, and cloud eggs, it was like the dream meal. Like I was on cloud nine all day, even at night when I went to bed, like I had nothing else. And I was just like, I'm so happy. Like I'm so happy and I feel that way right now having those 10 pepper chinos. I just feel so like life is worth living. Like that's it, depression gone, depression cured.

Speaker 2:
[05:26] Halleluja, pepper chinos.

Speaker 1:
[05:27] Pepper chinos, halleluja. Oscar halleluja, getting furniture at a discount, halleluja. Did I say it right? Is that how he says it?

Speaker 2:
[05:36] Honestly, I see the little trend and I keep it scrolling. No offense to the believers out there. I respect it, but I'd mind my own business, you know?

Speaker 1:
[05:46] I don't know what it's from either. Tana did, we did that TikTok and Tana was like doing it, the sound and she, you know, we're like being cute. But it sounded like really sad. I'm like, is this like a sound? Is this like when they're like that or something? But then she's like, no, it's like a trend. And I was like, oh, it's just a bunch of things.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] Yeah. I think it's like almost like a, I am thankful for kind of thing. Cause I know he did it at Coachella when he was performing the song and he was like, Haley, hallelujah. Yeah. So.

Speaker 1:
[06:09] I like gratitude. I like that.

Speaker 2:
[06:10] Yeah. I think it's kind of a gratitude moment.

Speaker 1:
[06:12] Let's do your hallelues.

Speaker 2:
[06:18] There's just so much.

Speaker 1:
[06:19] Oh, that's good. So that goes with the trend.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] Oh, yeah. It would just be like a lot of tasks.

Speaker 1:
[06:23] So you have.

Speaker 2:
[06:24] I have my house. Halleloo. A good plumber. Halleloo.

Speaker 1:
[06:30] Halleloo to that.

Speaker 3:
[06:32] When you have a house, you need a good plumber.

Speaker 2:
[06:34] You got to have the plumber on standby. Trisha, Moses, halleloo. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:
[06:38] We're high up.

Speaker 2:
[06:39] Yeah. Before Darien. Oh. Darien, halleloo. Ted Nivison.

Speaker 1:
[06:45] Oh, you just have people in your house. CB2 down in Seal Beach. Halleloo.

Speaker 2:
[06:49] The Craneville Outlet Stores in general. Halleloo. Yeah. I've been having so much fun with finding furniture for cheap.

Speaker 1:
[06:57] Oh, I was getting excited for you. He was telling me all the what he saw at full price and what he got at discount. And I'm like, that's a talent to find that. Like, dupes. You should read your own Facebook markup. But I'm like, that's a talent.

Speaker 2:
[07:07] I'm all in on this little game that I find furniture that I like and it's at a price that's kind of unbearable to me. And then it's like a challenge. Like, find it cheaper somewhere somehow. And it's been a lot of Facebook marketplace, a lot of reverse image searching on Google, a lot of just typing in adjectives that describe the furniture I like. I need to be surprised what comes up. Like, I just type in the keywords, like the color of the wood and whatever element is there, like a fluted, bleached wood.

Speaker 1:
[07:39] Wow. Nice.

Speaker 2:
[07:40] And then you'd be surprised what comes up.

Speaker 1:
[07:41] I wouldn't even know a fluted wood. What does it look like? What does fluted mean?

Speaker 2:
[07:44] It's like there's little ridges on the wood, like this little design on the wood.

Speaker 1:
[07:48] I'm learning a lot. Are you someone who needs to... Have you ever wrote a book?

Speaker 2:
[07:53] Have I wrote a book?

Speaker 1:
[07:54] Yeah. Or do you write? Do you publish articles? You're a writer, right?

Speaker 2:
[07:59] I have published articles in the past. You have.

Speaker 1:
[08:01] You're so good with words. You should write a book. Every word you say, I'm like, how do you even know that? That's insane. You should definitely write a book. You're so smart.

Speaker 2:
[08:09] I almost minored in English, but then I didn't want to do an extra semester. So I'm like, I'm just good with the one major.

Speaker 1:
[08:15] Oh, you don't have to do a minor if you did a major?

Speaker 2:
[08:17] Yeah. You can pick one thing. You can add a minor when you graduate, but you have to get the credits to qualify for a minor. And I would have had to do an extra semester. And I was like, girl, just get me out of here at this point.

Speaker 1:
[08:29] How many years did you go?

Speaker 2:
[08:31] Four and a half.

Speaker 1:
[08:32] And why would someone want to put extra work on their degree? A degree is a degree, right? Like, does anyone know? Like, oh, I have a minor in English.

Speaker 2:
[08:39] Let's see. I guess for the accreditations, I'm saying that word wrong. But now that I am a working adult and I have never been asked once about like my degree, I'm like, girl, thank God I just got out of there.

Speaker 1:
[08:55] Yeah. Sounds like a good plan. I had another question for you. Oh, furniture. Are you someone who wants to move? Are you someone? Okay. Me and my brother are complete opposites. My brother will move into a house and he has to get everything done in two weeks. All the renovations, all the move in. We're someone who's been here five years in this house and we still haven't got Beetlejuice cabinets. You know what I mean? We're very slow to move in. How are you?

Speaker 2:
[09:12] What's going on? I went in thinking, I'd be like, girl, just take your time. And then as I started finding stuff, now I'm like, girl, let's get it all done. The big stuff done and then you can focus on the little stuff and just relax. Because I'm also a hyper fixator. So when I like am trying to fill in the gaps or whatever, like it's all I can think about. So even though I have all this other furniture, I'm like, but I'm still missing this. And then it like takes over my brain and it's like all I think about. And I'm also off on medication right now. Disclaimer, I should have said at the beginning, not because of free will, but because there's an Adderall shortage.

Speaker 1:
[09:44] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[09:44] So disclaimer in case I'm very sidetracked this episode.

Speaker 1:
[09:49] Maybe, no CD, last episode we had no CD. I thought of you when we did the Adderall readout, right?

Speaker 2:
[09:54] It is.

Speaker 1:
[09:54] OCD is like you could possibly think about something.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] Yes, yes, yes. So, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:00] Well, not to say that's a substitute for your medication, obviously.

Speaker 2:
[10:02] Yeah. Oh, yeah, true. But it is a good resource, I think, for real.

Speaker 1:
[10:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:08] And I made like a list, too, of like things to focus on at the beginning, things to focus on somewhere down the line, things for way in the future.

Speaker 1:
[10:15] What's a way in the future thing?

Speaker 2:
[10:18] This is actually really relevant. Does anyone care? I don't know. But my dream, besides the house, I always envisioned a saltwater tank. You know, because I try to make you guys get one for the longest time.

Speaker 1:
[10:28] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] The concept of having just a big saltwater tank, that was everything to me.

Speaker 1:
[10:33] Put it out there.

Speaker 2:
[10:34] So that was at the end of my list. And I already had the exact one on my Google Slides presentation where I put the dream furniture and everything. And I had the exact tank. And then yesterday I found it on Facebook Marketplace for half the price, but it's still kind of expensive. So I'm still like, oh, I don't know. So I might have one foot in the door, one foot out the door on it. Because I'm talking to the seller who seems a little eccentric. But I guess that's the fish community.

Speaker 1:
[11:01] Yeah. Anyone who has a big fish tank of saltwater in their house. What do you walk with me? And why do you have that much in your house? That's so interesting.

Speaker 2:
[11:10] Yeah, I think that's just the fish community.

Speaker 3:
[11:12] But then you can have Nemo.

Speaker 2:
[11:13] That's why I'm like, I kind of think I should just... And I know exactly where it's going to go. And it's the exact tank I wanted. And it is literally half the price. Because it also comes with all the equipment that I would have had to get eventually. Like, it's all ready to go.

Speaker 1:
[11:28] Kind of meant to be. Honestly, you should treat yourself. Especially if you're thinking about a lot. You did see it. Like, sometimes you just got to...

Speaker 2:
[11:34] It does feel kind of like a sign. It feels like divine intervention.

Speaker 1:
[11:38] Wow. Start with that first and the furniture later.

Speaker 2:
[11:41] I do have the basics at least. So that's good.

Speaker 1:
[11:43] That's all you need.

Speaker 2:
[11:44] Yeah. And I figured too, last time I was down, it was like no furniture places have responded to my pitch emails. And then I keep seeing them give every white girl with 5,000 followers on TikTok, like a whole lifestyle living room makeover. And I'm kind of like...

Speaker 1:
[11:58] You do have them?

Speaker 2:
[12:00] They actually have forms. Like on their website, they're like influencer program. So I'm like, sure. And in my little pitch, I was like, you know, I've always name drop you first sentence.

Speaker 1:
[12:10] I'm like... I know it's good or bad, but maybe they're like, ooh, not her. I haven't been offered it. What is the company? I guess we can believe it or we can say it. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[12:19] There's actually a lot of them. The one I'm after right now is called Tove. And they're also at Coachella. So I was like, TOV. And they had a whole Coachella activation when I applied. So I was like, maybe they're a little sidetracked. So maybe I'll throw my hat in the room again. But I'm also in the mindset of like, do the work now and everything else will follow. That's a good mindset, right?

Speaker 1:
[12:38] Yeah, and I would also like, you know, put like a house, doing a house series. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[12:43] Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1:
[12:44] And then be like, anyone looking for furniture, product placement?

Speaker 2:
[12:47] I know, I'm literally just gonna like, show, like I'm gonna put all the work into it and the effort into it. And I'm just like, kind of like Moses Cooking Channel. He's doing the work and everything's kind of following, you know, like the followers, the subscribers, the brand deals. Yeah, he gets more- So I'm just Moses mentality.

Speaker 1:
[13:02] It is actually amazing, like all the brand deals he's getting for this cooking channel that just started literally two weeks ago, the views, the, what is it? The ad sense is better than mine. I was like, how are you? His Facebook is getting like 80,000 views just ladling up some soup or whatever you were doing the other day. It's kind of crazy. I was like, he's like, oh yeah, I get paid for that. I was like, how do you get paid for that? Like, I'm so confused. He was showing me all the like levels of income as an influencer. And I was just like-

Speaker 2:
[13:27] I love him schooling you.

Speaker 1:
[13:30] I'm like truly gagged by it. And I think it's everything, but I'm just like-

Speaker 3:
[13:34] Cooking is a niche. It's a place where-

Speaker 1:
[13:37] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[13:38] We feed you pop culture and you feed you food. You know, we take care of you. Like, yeah, food is important. A lot of people go, like that's how we do it. Like if I need a recipe, if I need something, I go either on Instagram or on TikTok and I look for what people are making, you know? So it's not even necessarily somebody following me. They're just looking for a recipe.

Speaker 1:
[13:58] I think they're following you. You're in the thumbnail. How are you? Moses Cooking Videos. Subscribe.

Speaker 3:
[14:04] Good, good. I was just showing my mug.

Speaker 1:
[14:07] Oh, that mug. I thought you were going to use another mug. Did you already show the other mug or that's for another time?

Speaker 3:
[14:10] For another time.

Speaker 1:
[14:11] I love this mug, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:12] Because I like this one. It comes with a coaster too.

Speaker 1:
[14:16] What does it come with? I think they're sold separately at the show. There's more seats that just opened up at the Royal Upper Hall. They released some of the Royal seats and I guess they're opening up some seats at home.

Speaker 3:
[14:25] Yeah, because I mean they have so many seats that are.

Speaker 1:
[14:27] Blocked off for the Royals. I guess the Royals aren't making it.

Speaker 2:
[14:30] There's a lot of Royals. Maybe Princess Eugenie, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[14:34] Who's that? What's she Princess of?

Speaker 2:
[14:36] One of the cousins. I think she's Prince William and Harry's cousin.

Speaker 1:
[14:40] What, Fergie?

Speaker 2:
[14:42] Oh yeah, Sarah Ferguson.

Speaker 1:
[14:43] Yeah, and she had Duchess.

Speaker 2:
[14:44] Duchess, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:45] She still a Duchess?

Speaker 2:
[14:46] I have not kept up with her, but I would assume. I feel like it's kind of hard to lose your title. Wasn't she in a commercial for something?

Speaker 1:
[14:52] Yeah, like Weight Watchers or something.

Speaker 2:
[14:54] I think it was.

Speaker 1:
[14:55] That's what I know her too. I feel like O'Brad are on or something. I was like, oh, I love that you know her. We're very aligned.

Speaker 2:
[15:01] I think we grew up with Weight Watchers.

Speaker 1:
[15:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:04] And it's like fast.

Speaker 1:
[15:06] Oh my God. Diet culture was crazy. Well, I feel cool. What do you think of my look with my sunglasses in my purse?

Speaker 3:
[15:14] Well, I thought you're leaving.

Speaker 1:
[15:16] Oh, does it look like that? It does.

Speaker 3:
[15:18] I do feel like I'm ready to go. You're ready to wrap it up.

Speaker 2:
[15:21] It looks like you're ready to go play like a game of cricket with Holly Madison.

Speaker 1:
[15:25] Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2:
[15:27] Pickleball with Holly after this. It's kind of what you do.

Speaker 1:
[15:30] I'm in my pickleball era for sure.

Speaker 2:
[15:32] I do.

Speaker 1:
[15:33] Yes. Have you played? Oh, I'm a pickleball queen right now and I love it so much. I should do a TikTok on it. It's just like awkward to ask someone who's teaching you to film you.

Speaker 2:
[15:44] Oh, I feel you.

Speaker 1:
[15:45] They're probably like, are you just doing this for content? It's so funny. At morning, there was like nobody there. There's like four construction workers and then there was like an influencer couple. I'm assuming influencer or maybe they just really love taking pictures and videos of each other, but they were like filming everything. And anyways, then nobody was sitting down because the workers were waiting for their food to go. And then like I had my stuff at the booth and there's like six booths and then they put their stuff right next to my booth. So then I moved over and then I started overthinking it. Then I was thinking like, what if they are like, oh, Trisha moved away from us or something. You know what I mean? And then I just was, the only reason I was thinking is I wanted to film and I don't want to be distracting them because I was going to talk. And then they were also filming everything. So I was like, well, I don't need to be in the back shoveling food in my mouth if they're filming. Because they were both filming each other. And I don't know if they were influencers or just people who like to film themselves, but I was worried that they were influencers and they might be like, Trisha just moved seats when she saw we were sitting next to her or something like that. I don't know. I just, I overthink it a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[16:40] Well, at least you got it out here.

Speaker 1:
[16:42] Yeah, I guess that's what I want to say is it was literally not you. It was me. I'm already embarrassed. Also, I was underneath the fan. It was like this whole thing. I really is just like I just didn't want to be in the background shoveling food in your mouth. But also, I don't think they knew me. I don't think it was even like that because I think if they were filming and people are not shy, they'd be like, oh, can I have a picture? I think they literally might have been just filming themselves. But you guys were wonderful and you were giving. It made me sad because it was a couple and I was like, oh, the boy was taking pictures of the girl and then the girl was taking pictures of the boy. The boy was giving and I was just like, oh my gosh, he was doing poses, they were standing up serving.

Speaker 2:
[17:15] He sounds gay. Are you sure it wasn't like a girl and her girl?

Speaker 1:
[17:22] I don't think so because he didn't know me. He didn't know who I was. So it was very giving like they didn't know me. But then also I felt like, oh, they were sad that I moved because it was one of those things where it's like, you know, why are you moving away? So I kind of felt-

Speaker 2:
[17:35] The concept of thinking everyone with an iPhone knows you. I live for that. I know.

Speaker 1:
[17:38] I know. I didn't know. I know. I didn't know.

Speaker 3:
[17:41] It's just a journey of the thoughts of like, instead of just doing what you're doing and being in what you're doing.

Speaker 1:
[17:46] But I would have been right in the background because I brought my tripod, my-

Speaker 3:
[17:50] No, but that's what I'm saying. It makes all the sense in the world to move over.

Speaker 1:
[17:53] Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 3:
[17:54] Because of noise, because of pictures. Yeah. Sometimes you don't want to have-

Speaker 1:
[17:58] Because they have their tripod and I also just didn't want to be like shoveling food in the back. I would have been like, if they were like fans, like, can you be in this? I would have been like, yeah, but I don't think they were like that vibe. But then I was just thinking like, yes, I don't want to be like shoveling food and be like they wanted to just, maybe they felt safe with me. You know what I mean? Maybe they were like, well, like this is another person we can sit next to. So I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[18:15] Every scenario you possibly thought of.

Speaker 1:
[18:17] I know. I felt very safe in there. Everybody in there was very nice. Like even the guys who probably didn't know who I was, they were very much like, oh, I love the pink. And then one told me I looked like Barbie. Like everyone was very friendly in there today. So.

Speaker 2:
[18:29] I suppose I should go over there.

Speaker 1:
[18:31] Yeah, that would never happen. Oh my God. I never, it was the same scenario. Like I was in the booth. That is a crazy, I guess we can talk about it now. I don't know. No, I guess I can't. Anyways, but the fast food chain that she was in, it is crazy that happened because it was just like a person that knew her, that just recognized her.

Speaker 2:
[18:50] I guess so, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:51] Like she knew and she came up to her because she knew. And then what happened?

Speaker 2:
[18:55] I wanted her to twerk. Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1:
[18:58] Oh, okay. That gives more context. I thought the girl, I thought the girl explained that she was just like a fan talked to her and she was like disrespectful to her or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[19:06] No, the girl in question who went up to Ice Spice in that fast food restaurant told her side of the story that was a complete contradiction to the security footage that we all saw. She was like, I just went up to her. I was a fan. And then, but I'm like, girl, we saw the security footage. You like went up in her face and then you were the instigator. Like you're the one that started, started swinging.

Speaker 1:
[19:29] But knew who she was. Wasn't just like a random.

Speaker 2:
[19:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:31] Yeah. Because like originally asked her to work on this. Because, you know, I spy that's her thing. Oh, but yeah. And then some people like on TikTok, I think were like, well, she should have asked her to come sit down and have have her meal with her. I was like, what?

Speaker 1:
[19:46] Like, how are you guys a fan to do that?

Speaker 2:
[19:48] They're like, I spy should have just if she just like was nice and asked her to sit down to eat with her. Now this would happen. I was like, how are you going to blame the girl? I'm not going to invite no stranger.

Speaker 1:
[19:57] Why would you do that with anybody? But also someone that's a weird. People are sometimes insane online. What do you mean? Well, if you just did that, it'd be fine. Like it's so okay. I don't agree with that at all. That's so weird. Well, that was a great situation. It's all on camera too.

Speaker 2:
[20:14] I know.

Speaker 1:
[20:15] I guess it's kind of wild. I suppose just in a fast food restaurant.

Speaker 2:
[20:19] That was my first thought. I was like, I don't think I've even done that since the playhouse is worth it.

Speaker 1:
[20:25] Yeah, the playhouse is.

Speaker 2:
[20:26] When I had a little bit more motivation to actually go in and eat my little meal in there.

Speaker 1:
[20:32] Yeah. To just sit in there. I guess it's like a vibe. I guess if you want to catch up with someone, just a random place because was it in LA or where was it?

Speaker 2:
[20:38] LA, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:39] There's so many places to catch a vibe with somebody.

Speaker 2:
[20:41] I know, especially when you're ice spice.

Speaker 1:
[20:44] Yeah. But you know, love that humble queen.

Speaker 2:
[20:47] Yeah. She got the last laugh though because the brand deals started rolling in after that because she really handled herself well. She was funny throughout the whole thing. She held her own.

Speaker 1:
[20:55] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:56] It was fierce.

Speaker 1:
[20:57] I like her.

Speaker 2:
[20:58] Me too. Love that queen.

Speaker 1:
[20:58] We were so close to getting her on the podcast, remember?

Speaker 2:
[21:00] Yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 1:
[21:01] In 2023.

Speaker 2:
[21:02] You got to get that little cosplay back out.

Speaker 1:
[21:05] That was a good one. I know. She has blonde hair now. I saw her with blonde hair and I was like, oh, she looks kind of cute. Zara Lawson also, too. I was like, oh, we were so close. She sent me a DM a couple weeks ago. I was like, wow, we were so close. She was busy, schedule, but I'm coming on the pod girl. And then I saw her on Call Her Daddy. We really do be missing out.

Speaker 2:
[21:21] Alex Earl, I've always had to had your back, girl. Team Earl on God, A-L-I-X-E-A-R-L-E. Love the whole family. Ashton with an I, that dad.

Speaker 1:
[21:31] Okay, block, block. Our show is just called Hypocrites.

Speaker 2:
[21:37] The second I saw Zara Lawson on the Call Her Daddy couch, I said, oh no, I'm flipping the script. I'm going to go on a stripper poll with Alex Earl. I'm going to say, you know what? She doesn't have to speak on anything. Yeah, we don't need to hear her side of the story. You know, believe women, believe women, believe the repost.

Speaker 1:
[21:50] Alex Cooper is a woman too.

Speaker 2:
[21:52] But she's not making any accusations. Alex Earl is the one making them.

Speaker 1:
[21:56] So, you know, Oh wait, what's her accusation?

Speaker 2:
[21:58] I guess just all the reposts. I honestly don't know, nor do I care that much.

Speaker 1:
[22:02] Current one, current repost or like the old repost?

Speaker 2:
[22:04] The old ones, pre Alex Cooper.

Speaker 1:
[22:06] I did see a blind item that said a certain blonde girl with the same name as her enemy is gonna do a tell-all about another podcaster's husband. Because you sent me and now I see the hit pieces are coming in about the Unwell Network.

Speaker 2:
[22:21] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:22] Okay, now when you call it, you said hit piece, right? Or did I just make that up?

Speaker 2:
[22:26] No, I said it. When I sent it to you, I was like, oh, this hit piece.

Speaker 1:
[22:28] What is a hit piece? Is it like a hit piece is something where like someone is strategically trying to take someone down?

Speaker 2:
[22:34] Yeah, it's basically feeding publications negative information about an adversary to get more coverage for it. It's like the publicist of the dark side, I guess, you know what I mean? It's like people have publicists to promote good things that someone does. And then the dark side of that, the negative is you have a publicist to promote negative things about your enemies.

Speaker 1:
[22:58] Wait, but can you ever find out who the dark side publicist was that leaked it?

Speaker 3:
[23:03] Sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[23:03] Sometimes, but journalists have a code where you can't clock your source, basically. You can't really expose your source.

Speaker 1:
[23:12] What if it's lies? What if you're like, that's not real? They're like, oh, look at these text messages. You're like, those are not real.

Speaker 2:
[23:18] Then they can get sued. You have to be careful with it, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[23:23] Can they reveal the source in court then?

Speaker 2:
[23:25] I think it would have to be subpoenaed or something. Even then, it's like the law kind of protects journalists and their sources and stuff. So it gets a little nuts. And then that's why it goes to the jury to figure it out.

Speaker 1:
[23:37] So can you just go to a publication and be like, I heard this about Trisha and I'm close to her, so I'm a source. And then you can't tell her who I am.

Speaker 2:
[23:43] It depends on also on the outlet because different outlets have a different standard of journalism. So you do have some outlets where you can get away with like one person claiming they're a source and then they'll publish it. And it's like very much like allegedly, and it sounds very kind of crazy and fan fiction-y. And then there's like the People magazines and stuff that are known to be like very reputable. And they have to go through a lot of like checks before they publish information. Like they'll check with other sources to back the claims before they go and publish something, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[24:17] So the person with the Alex Cooper, they went to it was a variety.

Speaker 2:
[24:21] They originally went to Bloomberg.

Speaker 1:
[24:24] What is that?

Speaker 2:
[24:25] It's more of a business financial outlet.

Speaker 3:
[24:28] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:28] I think of like Bloomberg Television. My dad used to watch and was like stocks every morning.

Speaker 3:
[24:33] They do everything.

Speaker 1:
[24:33] They're like a variety now?

Speaker 2:
[24:37] I think they...

Speaker 3:
[24:39] But isn't that like what happened between... Like Rebel Wilson is now in court about trying to do PR about people, the whole thing that happened.

Speaker 2:
[24:50] She is.

Speaker 1:
[24:51] She's the epicenter of everything. She's always battling something. I love it. Why? Why is she the father of that? Like what slanderous things about her?

Speaker 3:
[24:59] It's kind of the same thing. She was trying to create some story. We don't actually don't know. But she had a fallout with a producer from the show and then she was trying to create.

Speaker 1:
[25:08] What show?

Speaker 3:
[25:09] Her movie, a movie she made.

Speaker 1:
[25:10] Rebel Wilson?

Speaker 2:
[25:11] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:11] Oh, separate from the Sasha Baron Cohen thing.

Speaker 2:
[25:13] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[25:13] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[25:14] Yes. This was recent.

Speaker 1:
[25:17] It's ongoing now. You can tell me this. I love Rebel Wilson.

Speaker 2:
[25:18] It was a hot topic at one point.

Speaker 1:
[25:20] We talked about it?

Speaker 2:
[25:21] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[25:23] Rebel Wilson and she wasn't in the thumbnail? I love Rebel Wilson Hot Topic. Can you give me a rundown, a quick debrief on it?

Speaker 2:
[25:29] It's basically what Moses said. Yeah. There was creative differences with her and the producer, I think, right?

Speaker 3:
[25:34] Yeah, the producer on the movie.

Speaker 2:
[25:35] On her film, yeah. And she was, there was like a leaked voicemail between one of the publicists that was sent to, I think, Variety that detailed running a smear campaign against that producer and saying that she was-

Speaker 1:
[25:51] Oh, she was trying to do the smear campaign.

Speaker 2:
[25:52] Allegedly, claiming, claims. There's claims that she was trying to-

Speaker 1:
[25:56] Now she's trying to battle and be like, we hate these smear campaigns. Is that what you're saying? She's trying to be like, stop these smear campaigns?

Speaker 3:
[26:02] No, I'm just saying what you were talking about. Sometimes it does get exposed that somebody did talk to a PR company and tried to do that. And that was also just recently, Jane the Virgin, I forgot his name.

Speaker 2:
[26:16] Justin Baldoni.

Speaker 3:
[26:17] Yeah. So Justin Baldoni, I mean, that was the whole ordeal. It's like, who is smearing who? And both sides are trying to prove who is the one leading the smear campaign. At some point, it becomes that. But somebody is telling some truth, somebody is telling some lies. So if both sides are claiming the other side is telling the lie, until they really find out the truth.

Speaker 1:
[26:36] I guess like, what's the point? Why were they, who was, who even started this smear campaign against each other for the ends with us people?

Speaker 3:
[26:42] For the public opinion.

Speaker 2:
[26:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:45] Public opinion, what though?

Speaker 3:
[26:47] Whether you're a good person or not.

Speaker 2:
[26:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:49] But what started that?

Speaker 2:
[26:51] You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[26:52] Like, why don't we just start smear campaigns against each other, you and me? It's like, what's the point? Like we're on the same team, we're in the same movie.

Speaker 3:
[26:58] Oh, but they had a falling out. That's why.

Speaker 2:
[27:00] It's like getting ahead of it. So they already had the falling out and already the claims of sexual harassment and stuff. So it was like the getting ahead of it. The movie was coming out. They were about to go on the press tour. Blake was doing her press tour separate from Justin Baldoni. Like it was kind of like bubbling up. So the claims are that Justin Baldoni's PR firm were planning the smear campaign, which would involve like bots and stuff. Basically just like resurfacing old Blake Lively clips and interviews and having these accounts just post negative stuff. And it's like, I mean, you get that all the time, but like with TikTok, you see so many TikToks of like someone in a negative light, like look at the brand flakes thing, right? That's not a smear campaign, but I'm just saying like, if you see so many posts of like pointing out the negative things about someone, you're like, oh, this person sucks. That's kind of bad.

Speaker 1:
[27:52] Right, I see.

Speaker 2:
[27:54] And then they have no credibility. They have, like their cache is just like wiped away.

Speaker 1:
[27:59] And that's why they're suing each other, because they're like, you smeared me so much that I can't do anything.

Speaker 2:
[28:04] Blake, yeah, is suing.

Speaker 1:
[28:06] Justin.

Speaker 2:
[28:07] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] He's not suing her back.

Speaker 2:
[28:08] He filed a counter suit, but that was tossed out a couple of months ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[28:13] It's like at the end of the day, like I feel like everyone, it's like the Dakota and Taylor thing, everyone's awful. And I feel like even if you're both right, or even if you're both awful, or even if you're both doing smear campaigns or whatever, there's a saying, I just looked it up the other day, or I just saw it the other day, it came up on my Instagram, my little memes. People said it was AI. Someone's like, oh, those things are AI. Anyways, it's like, if I take your eye, and you're like, I'm gonna take your eye too, it's like, well, then now we're both blind. And guess what?

Speaker 2:
[28:37] I think that's from the Bible, no? Oh.

Speaker 3:
[28:39] Eye for an eye. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[28:42] Okay, me quoting Jesus and not knowing. Oh, it was a meme that was so gruesome. It was literally someone ripping out someone's eye, like, I would take your eye. And then it's like, well, now we're both blind. What do we do? And it's like, now you're both blind. So you're both, like, why don't we just keep our eyeballs in our heads? Unless it's like something bad. Obviously the sexual harassment thing is yes, but then like to be like, let's do this and like ruin their reputation. It's like, well, if you already did that, your reputation is starting to be ruined. You don't think you need to like go above and beyond to ruin it more and like hire people. I see it with, I guess I don't need to say it, but I'm on a TikTok side where people are like, oh, there's a smear campaign. I see it with, I guess I can say it, I don't know. I'm always a little scared to talk about any of these people, but do you remember Nicole Arbor?

Speaker 2:
[29:23] I know that name sounds familiar.

Speaker 1:
[29:25] She was Dear Fat People.

Speaker 2:
[29:27] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:27] And then she went on that tour and everyone just came for her and like, you suck. Cause she's like, Dear Fat People, just exercise. You remember she was like that millennial cringe? I guess.

Speaker 2:
[29:35] Yes, yeah. Okay, yes, I do remember.

Speaker 1:
[29:36] She was on Bunny and Jolly Rolls podcast and now she's accusing them of doing a smear campaign, but she's accusing them of paying people to like talk badly about her. I don't know. Nicole seems like she might be on the wrong list. I don't, I'm not really sure, but that's my whole TikTok. And it's like, she's basically accusing them of paying people to do TikToks about her and be like, she's like discrediting her or whatever. I don't know, but like, I guess that sounds like it could actually be a thing. Not with them. I'm not sure. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[30:05] But yeah, there's like packages. I mean, it is really crazy. There's packages when you do a smear campaign of like, you pay this amount, you can get this number of bots on these platforms. If you get the next level, the next tier, you can get more bots and then you get more coverage on Reddit, on Twitter, and then you also get TikTok comments. Like they go by tiers. And then, yeah, it's like a whole thing. Um, I mean, that's why it gets into like the lawsuits and stuff. So I guess, no, everyone goes broke with that.

Speaker 1:
[30:33] Then we're all broke again.

Speaker 2:
[30:35] I know it's messy. It's messy for sure.

Speaker 3:
[30:37] That's the whole world of politics. I mean, that's how politics is run.

Speaker 1:
[30:41] Ugh, I know, after my one month announcement of Congress, all of a sudden, I was like, all these Twitter accounts that I've never seen before are just like coming from me. It was like literally a day of me announcing it. And I was like, I was just kidding. Everybody like just calm down. It is actually so scary. It makes me scared for like Spencer Pratt, not like in a weird way, but just like, damn, you really are going to just like get harassed.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] And I think if you look into his politics, you'll realize that is the not a good one to endorse.

Speaker 1:
[31:09] Oh, really?

Speaker 2:
[31:09] Let's just say Joe Rogan just endorsed him. Oh, wait, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:15] I would think it would, yeah, it's shocking or not shocking, Hasan?

Speaker 2:
[31:18] I didn't know that much about it, but I would just assume because like they seem so like girly pop.

Speaker 1:
[31:22] So yeah, super girly pop, that's so weird. Oh, OK. Well, no one has been talking about him, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[31:28] Yeah, very odd. Actually, there's a whole thing that came out yesterday, too. I think the Hollywood Reporter published an article. You remember Alexa Nicholas?

Speaker 1:
[31:40] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[31:41] She just filed the whole thing. I get about like she did her own investigate and she hired like a third party to investigate. I'm paraphrasing very loosely because like I couldn't get to in the weeds of this because it was really confusing, a lot of legal jargon. But her claim was that like when she traced the smear campaign against her, mostly her husband, I guess her husband's like very, it's like a financier guy, so he had like a lot of connections and stuff. But she claims that all came back to Scooter Braun, like from back in like 2016 is when like he started doing the smear campaign kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:
[32:16] Against her?

Speaker 2:
[32:17] Allegedly. I think against other celebrities, I think she listed like Selena Gomez, his name she found and stuff. But it's all alleged, obviously.

Speaker 1:
[32:25] Oh my God. But why is she in the middle of it? Because he didn't come for her.

Speaker 2:
[32:29] I think she is claiming that there was a smear campaign against her and her husband. And then when they hired like a third party and to track down like the origins at some point, Scooter Braun was kind of like in the epicenter of it. Not necessarily against her specifically, but like proliferated down to.

Speaker 1:
[32:48] It's the author in you.

Speaker 2:
[32:49] I think I used that wrong. That was good.

Speaker 1:
[32:51] Oh, that was smart. When you say words like that, I'm like, wow, that's so good. Awful. This sounds like bad news all of it.

Speaker 2:
[32:58] I know. It's pretty crazy. And then all the articles with Alex Cooper. There's like two sides to this that I think are interesting. There's one where like, is it Alex Earl's team? She has a really good team. Is it her team kind of like planting the stories? Or the other thing that I heard is like a pretty popular strategy is, it's called the bridge and block PR strategy. Like when you know bad stuff is gonna come out, like you redirect and shift, it's very like, look over there, like shifting it to something else. So before all this press started coming out, did Alex Cooper called out Alex Earl to make this the focus of all the headlines? Cause she knew-

Speaker 1:
[33:42] She knew it was coming. Maybe.

Speaker 2:
[33:46] Possibly. It's like two scenarios, right? It's either like she knew something was coming, like the bad press was coming. She already had the Winter, Unwell Winter games, like controversy.

Speaker 1:
[33:55] Oh, I see.

Speaker 2:
[33:56] And she knew that she was gonna get more bad press, so does she like-

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:00] Want to get ahead of it by making this the big talk of the town, or is Alex Earle's team trying to like get back at her and plant these like stories?

Speaker 1:
[34:09] Where do you fall?

Speaker 2:
[34:11] God, I honestly don't know. I think it could go either way, truly, it could. To me, I think I'm a little jaded because I've been in the production and interview business for so long that the claims that are coming out in these exposés about Unwell, about just like a hostile work environment, that Alex's husband, Matt Kaplan, would like allegedly yell and berate the crew or staff members. I guess the yelling and berating that definitely crosses a line, but everything else I've heard about the girls come up with about Alex Cooper, like, oh, she doesn't really care about me, she just cares about money, blah, blah, blah. All of that just seems like this is the industry. I'm not saying it's good. It's just the way it is, unfortunately. It's very much like your feelings don't really matter that much. It's like whatever's best for the company, what's going to make this company richer and make profit. I'm used to that and desensitized to that. I guess it depends how, if it's true, it depends how nasty Matt Kaplan was getting.

Speaker 1:
[35:28] Yeah, the recording's coming out about it.

Speaker 2:
[35:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:31] Damn.

Speaker 2:
[35:32] It's very interesting though. And then it's weird though, because then you have people coming out and be like, I worked with Alex Cooper and she was always so nice, never had any problems with her. Jonah. Yeah. Jonah, who was one of your backup dancers.

Speaker 1:
[35:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:44] Went on tour with Alex Cooper.

Speaker 1:
[35:46] What? She had dancers?

Speaker 2:
[35:48] Remember when she was doing the podcast?

Speaker 1:
[35:49] Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[35:51] Where was the dancing? She had a little dance segment. Yeah. And he would like, I guess there was a sexy segment where he would take her knee-high socks off with his teeth. I don't know what that was. I was going down the Call Her Daddy Tour. But he made a TikTok saying like I was on tour with her for months and I spent a lot of time with her and I'm not gonna say that other people's experience is wrong, but all I can say is my experience with her was like she's always very kind, very professional. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] I love that. I do love that. Yeah, I feel like it could be said about anybody. Like people I've worked with, people I mean, half the people will probably be like, well, I would say 90% of people are probably like, Trish is amazing. But then, you know, there's probably like a 10% out there that's like, she's the worst. I don't know. Especially in my hangry days, you know? So I don't know. I think it's just, yeah. It's like what day you catch her on? I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[36:39] Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:
[36:40] I mean, she seemed nice in the one hour I talked with her before and after, but yeah, dealing with employees is so different too. Also too, when it's like a husband and wife, so they both have Unwell and he's like involved. For some reason, I thought he was a movie producer or something. I thought he was not in the podcast world.

Speaker 2:
[36:55] I think this is his main business now is Unwell. I forget who was saying this. Maybe it was SpillSash or something. Someone that went into the Unwell office, like you would think Alex Cooper would have the big corner office because she's the CEO, but actually Matt Kaplan is one that has the biggest office.

Speaker 1:
[37:12] Who put that out there? Or SpillSash?

Speaker 2:
[37:14] I think SpillSash did.

Speaker 1:
[37:16] Who saw it? Who took the picture? Who posted it?

Speaker 2:
[37:18] I guess someone who just visited the Unwell office. Like Alex's office is more out in the open with everybody else and his is like in the corner of the big executive office, so he's pretty powerful.

Speaker 1:
[37:30] I mean, even if he was the big one in charge, I still would be like, I'm in that corner office because I'm the face. You know what I mean? Like I'm the one dealing with all this s**t, like no one really, really cares, even those like hippies articles. I really don't know who.

Speaker 2:
[37:41] Yeah, T, because in the hippies articles they're using Alex Cooper's image, you know.

Speaker 1:
[37:45] Yeah, like give me that big corner office because I'm the one going to take all this s**t. Is the Unwell Games done?

Speaker 2:
[37:53] I think they dropped like all the episodes on YouTube, I believe. And I heard people on TikTok were viewing it and saying that it was entertaining, but I just like, it was too messy for even me to even dip my toe in. I'm like, I'll watch something else, you know, like I'm good. I'm good on that front.

Speaker 1:
[38:10] Yeah, same. I heard that Mormon Wives is shooting again, but Dakota is not a part of it.

Speaker 2:
[38:15] Yeah, T, this literally just came out today from TMZ, that Mormon Wives is back in production. Originally, there was reporting that Taylor was not going to be, Taylor and Dakota were not going to be involved in this season. People Magazine wrote that. I know I literally just said they had to check a lot of sources. Sometimes they're so wrong. Sometimes they're so wrong.

Speaker 1:
[38:36] They went a little too early.

Speaker 2:
[38:37] Yes, and because maybe that was the case at one point then it switched, you know?

Speaker 1:
[38:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:42] And then Taylor commented on Instagram from people and she was like, that's not what I heard. And then TMZ reported that she will be involved later down the line, but Dakota still will not.

Speaker 1:
[38:54] I heard my, what I heard was she was given the option to return and declined is what I heard.

Speaker 2:
[39:00] Oh, is he?

Speaker 1:
[39:01] But I don't know how, which one is the most up to date?

Speaker 2:
[39:04] In the statement from, I don't know if it's from Hulu or her camp. Let me see actually if I do know. There was a statement that she is going to be focusing on her family and healing. Oh yeah, here's the direct statement. Her priority right now is her mental health and her family, she wants to return eventually when she's ready. That was a source to the show itself, Secret Lies of Mormon Wives.

Speaker 1:
[39:23] So it does sound like she was given the option.

Speaker 2:
[39:25] And probably wants to come later down the line. I'm sure she'll appear at some points.

Speaker 1:
[39:31] I like that, I respect that. I feel like, okay, they're going to talk about it. So it's like, I would want to be part of that narrative. But obviously, yeah, I think when people take a step back and we visually see you take a step back, it's like, oh, okay, when people just come back right away, you're like, that seems like a little much, you know what I mean? But I think it's good also for her. But also for the public to be like, okay, she's actually taking a step back. I love that they said Dakota was not invited back.

Speaker 2:
[39:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:52] Actually, he's awful. He is awful, should not be. Taylor was an originator on the show. Her spark in season one, obviously, was such a good light. Yeah, there seems to be way more to it the more you see all this stuff about her and him. And I don't know, something about him really does give me the edge. The more I see, I'm like, I mean, I always thought he was, but everything about him, I'm like, mm.

Speaker 2:
[40:14] Yeah, and I think they were just waiting until the charges were dropped against Taylor from the most recent event, which was, I think, February.

Speaker 1:
[40:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:24] And they also have a Hulu reality event today. So there's also the theory that they're going to be filming at this Hulu event today. So that's why they had to issue this statement today, because they're going to see the girls filming, and then the cat's going to be out of the bag. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:39] Where is the event? Is it in Malibu? Remember, they do that fancy one outside, near the beach?

Speaker 2:
[40:43] They did that last year. It's again this year.

Speaker 1:
[40:45] How do we get to that?

Speaker 2:
[40:46] Tee. That's what I was watching. Did we just drive? Feel free. Guess it were.

Speaker 1:
[40:50] It was like Nobu Malibu last time, and everyone was there for the Hulu. What are they called? Like, announced or something up next? I don't know. Something like that.

Speaker 2:
[40:56] Yeah. It has some reality name. Hulus Get Real House Event.

Speaker 1:
[40:59] Oh. Damn, I want to be there.

Speaker 2:
[41:02] I know. Tee.

Speaker 1:
[41:03] I'm invited to that. Are we not part of the Hulu world? I guess not.

Speaker 2:
[41:06] I guess we honestly just got up to date like three weeks ago. So I don't blame Hulu.

Speaker 1:
[41:11] Yeah, we love Hulu. Wish I was at that event. I would go. I would go to that event. That's why. When I think of us going to an event together, because I really want to, and I definitely want to do the whole stylist video for an event, I see us going to a day event where it's something like that, where we can get some tea, where it's this Hulu up next thing. I think that'd be fun to go to.

Speaker 2:
[41:27] And then we're really in the mix of it. Yeah, I feel like the Kardashians would be there. It'd be us with this Mormon wives.

Speaker 1:
[41:33] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[41:33] We'd be really, even with all the girls.

Speaker 1:
[41:35] That would be so fun. Because I think Ezra was there last year. I remember like everybody was there.

Speaker 2:
[41:39] Oh my god, yeah, Robert Irwin. Yes. That's when they announced him, I think, for Dancing with the Stars. Because they announced him so early.

Speaker 1:
[41:46] I wonder if they're announcing anyone today.

Speaker 2:
[41:48] God. More Mormon wives, I'm sure.

Speaker 1:
[41:52] Yeah, sounds like Jessie was practicing with Sasha. I had heard they had asked Taylor to like coincide with The Bachelorette. I also heard that like, probably just a rumor, but that they were also like gonna release The Bachelorette season.

Speaker 2:
[42:01] Oh, this actually is something that could happen now. From, this is source reporting. I don't know who the sources are, obviously. But there is source reporting that they are still TBD on releasing it. Again, when they quote unquote canceled it, they never said they canceled it themselves. Like ABC never said cancel, they just said they weren't gonna air it, like postponed. Now that the charges dropped, it's like looking better. And also they've been rolling out The Bachelors that were on her season on that Bachelor podcast, the official one or whatever. Oh, like doing interviews? Yeah. And the hosts of The Bachelor, I forget that guy's name.

Speaker 1:
[42:46] Jesse Palmer?

Speaker 2:
[42:47] Yes. He's also been hinting that it still might see the light of day.

Speaker 1:
[42:52] I wonder if he's there today.

Speaker 2:
[42:53] There is a little bit of hope. Wow. There's a little bit of hope. I fear I would be seated.

Speaker 1:
[42:58] I know. I feel like everybody would be too. Yeah. I guess this is her job. Now we see her bruises and she's like, jeez, this whole thing is kind of just like a situation.

Speaker 2:
[43:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] It's not as one-sided. I mean, I just hope they are not getting back together. You know what I mean? I just feel like-

Speaker 2:
[43:16] I pray to God. I guess we haven't seen fully how much Chither's grown. It sounds like she's really on the journey of healing. She is posting a lot of AI photos of Jesus, which I don't know about that. But we're starting somewhere. We're starting somewhere on the ceiling.

Speaker 1:
[43:32] I do see a lot of Bible pages. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] Yeah. And she's with her girls, Jessie and Demi.

Speaker 1:
[43:39] Just those two had her back.

Speaker 2:
[43:41] Those two are the ones she's closest with. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:43] I like to see it.

Speaker 2:
[43:44] Very interesting dynamics going on.

Speaker 1:
[43:48] Man, we missed out on the Hulu. We've got to find out where they're at.

Speaker 2:
[43:51] I know.

Speaker 1:
[43:51] I want to see the tea because the Hulu does seem fun. It seems camp.

Speaker 2:
[43:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:55] Like Disney and...

Speaker 2:
[43:57] It's really weird because they have just a little bit of everything, I fear. They have the shenanigans from Mormon wives and Kardashians and everything, but then they also keep it classy with a scripted drama.

Speaker 1:
[44:10] What's a scripted drama, Anne Hulu?

Speaker 2:
[44:13] Oh my God. Why am I forgetting her name? Is it Highwired? It's not a drama, but I think it's like a dramedy. The... She's from Hacks. I'm forgetting her name. High Potential, yes.

Speaker 1:
[44:22] Caitlin Olsen.

Speaker 2:
[44:23] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[44:24] Love her. I do love that one. She always has blue nails on that show. It always comes up after we're watching. I'm a Shifting Gears girl, so every time we watch Shifting Gears, anyone else watch that?

Speaker 2:
[44:33] Make some noise in the comments, everybody, if you're watching Shifting Gears.

Speaker 1:
[44:36] When I did a general meeting with Hulu, I remember going in there and they're like, yeah, we do Dancing with the Stars and all that stuff. I was like, wow, that's so cool. Then they were giving me a little tour and they're like, Shifting Gears films on the way. I'm like, I'm such a fan. They're like, you are? It's like, love the show. It's on their third season. It's kind of crushing. But after that comes High Potential Night. I really do love that show. You watch it? Is that Hulu original?

Speaker 2:
[44:56] Yeah, I believe so. No, I'm not watching it. But it's on my list of things to watch though, because I really do like Caitlin Olsen.

Speaker 1:
[45:02] They've been on that show, Arrested Development, right?

Speaker 2:
[45:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:05] For like 20 years.

Speaker 2:
[45:08] Crazy.

Speaker 1:
[45:08] It's still going.

Speaker 2:
[45:09] It's still going?

Speaker 1:
[45:10] Yes, they're still filming.

Speaker 2:
[45:12] Didn't know that was happening.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] She met her husband, they have teenage sons, everything on that show.

Speaker 2:
[45:16] That's wild.

Speaker 1:
[45:17] 15 years, is that the one? Oh, no. Is it Arrested Development or Always Sunny?

Speaker 3:
[45:21] Always Sunny.

Speaker 1:
[45:22] That's the one she's in.

Speaker 3:
[45:24] That's still filming.

Speaker 1:
[45:26] The daughter from Hacks is in?

Speaker 3:
[45:28] Yeah, that's still going on.

Speaker 2:
[45:29] Yes, Always Sunny.

Speaker 1:
[45:31] Just saying the wrong thing.

Speaker 2:
[45:32] I just believe you sometimes.

Speaker 1:
[45:33] Kind of the same thing. Arrested Development seems like an Always Sunny. Always Sunny, I think, is still filming, right?

Speaker 3:
[45:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] That's with Dan DeVito.

Speaker 3:
[45:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:42] I love a cast that just doesn't want to end the show. You know what I mean? That they're like, let's keep it going.

Speaker 3:
[45:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:46] That's what I always think. I'm always like, when people leave the show, I'm like, no, keep going forever.

Speaker 2:
[45:53] Keep that paycheck coming in.

Speaker 1:
[45:54] Always. It's so crazy when people are like, let's move on to other things. It's like, you could still move on to other things, like Remy and Michelle.

Speaker 3:
[45:59] Well, usually if they don't enjoy, they move on, but they seem to enjoy it. You know, it's like, there's nothing better than, it's like a band being on tour. They just enjoy making records, going on tour.

Speaker 1:
[46:09] It's us here at Just Trish, we're going to go forever, forever and ever, because it's so much fun. Yeah, I guess, yeah, but it's like a fun, but she's doing three shows. Caitlin's doing Hacks, High Potential, where she stars in High Potential and...

Speaker 2:
[46:22] Always Sunny.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] Always Sunny.

Speaker 2:
[46:23] Yeah, I guess if you could make it work, and Hacks is over, and this is...

Speaker 1:
[46:26] Right.

Speaker 2:
[46:26] Yeah. So...

Speaker 3:
[46:28] Like, for her, Hacks is a small gig. Because it's fast, and you move on.

Speaker 1:
[46:31] Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 2:
[46:33] I show that I'm watching right now, surprisingly on Apple TV, I don't know, maybe he watches it. Bargo's got money troubles. You guys get into it. It is so good.

Speaker 1:
[46:43] It was in it.

Speaker 3:
[46:44] It's an old one, right?

Speaker 2:
[46:45] It's new. Elle Fanning's in it. Michelle Pfeiffer.

Speaker 1:
[46:50] Hello.

Speaker 2:
[46:50] Nick Offerman.

Speaker 1:
[46:51] Love him.

Speaker 3:
[46:52] Yeah. I saw reviews that it's coming, and...

Speaker 2:
[46:54] It's really good.

Speaker 3:
[46:54] People are excited about it.

Speaker 1:
[46:55] Is it on? Oh, it's on.

Speaker 2:
[46:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:57] It's here.

Speaker 2:
[46:57] It's three episodes, no, four episodes now so far.

Speaker 1:
[47:00] What's the synopsis, General?

Speaker 2:
[47:02] I don't know. Okay. The synopsis, you guys, you might not be gagging, but I promise, and execution is actually as good. It is a young girl in college, Elle Fanning, who gets knocked up by her English teacher, who it turns out has a family and two kids, and she signs like she ends up having to sign an NDA that she won't expose him and go after him for money in order to get a trust fund for her baby. But she needs money because she can't work.

Speaker 1:
[47:33] How is she going to live?

Speaker 2:
[47:34] Exactly. So she starts an OF and she starts it as like a peen raider, like she critiques peens.

Speaker 1:
[47:44] And then you censor yourself. You always say the word.

Speaker 2:
[47:51] And yeah, it's like it's a comedy, but it's heartfelt. And the performances, damn, everyone be acting. Everyone is acting. They're putting their whole bodicey into their acting performances. Elle Fanning, baby.

Speaker 1:
[48:07] Emmy.

Speaker 2:
[48:08] I think you're getting the Emmy. The Emmy campaign looks now. I'm hoping it's a limited series so it doesn't go against because it's comedy so that she would go against hacks.

Speaker 1:
[48:16] I think it's White Lotus. It's like limited series, though.

Speaker 2:
[48:19] I don't think it would be out in time, at least White Lotus.

Speaker 1:
[48:21] Oh, I see. I see. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[48:24] So Elle Fanning, baby. I'll be running an Emmy campaign. She's amazing in it. It's so funny. Nicole Kidman randomly makes an appearance.

Speaker 1:
[48:32] Who's Michelle Pfeiffer in it?

Speaker 2:
[48:33] She's her mom. She's her mom who turns to the church just because she wants a husband. It's a key. She's a key in it.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] Who's the man in it?

Speaker 2:
[48:44] Nick Offerman is her estranged dad.

Speaker 1:
[48:48] So who's the only guy she has a baby with? He's not involved? He's out?

Speaker 2:
[48:52] In the first episode, he makes a little- No one famous? Just a guy.

Speaker 1:
[48:57] That's like Nick Offerman or something else like that. I just want Amy Poehler's podcast. I'm really trying to- My best tour, I'm number one is to be on Amy Poehler's podcast. I love her. By me, she gets all the biggest people.

Speaker 2:
[49:07] Maybe there'll be a lull by then. She's like, damn, who we got today?

Speaker 3:
[49:10] When you have a book, we never book it to be true.

Speaker 1:
[49:12] I don't know, but she has all the stars, just everyone from Parks and Rec, and maybe she is or she has kids, maybe they'll get me in. I was talking about, we did not love Aston and Tan, telling me how she got to meet Adam Sandler, and the full story will be on there, but it basically was like Sadie's like I want you to meet my dad, and I was like, that's so crazy. So if Amy Poehler has kids, and you guys want me on the podcast, like let her know, because I love it so much, and I love, I didn't know anything about Nick Offerman, the reason I know is because of that podcast, and I did like a deep, I guess he was in The Last of Us, what's the one?

Speaker 2:
[49:39] Yes, he was in the gay episode of The Last of Us.

Speaker 3:
[49:41] Yeah, one episode.

Speaker 1:
[49:42] With Bartlett Murray, who I also really love.

Speaker 3:
[49:44] I watched, I ended up watching it.

Speaker 1:
[49:46] By yourself, you always watch, you watch all those weird ones by yourself every time I come in, I'm like, there's some weird.

Speaker 3:
[49:50] But there is another show, because when that show came out, there was a bunch of shows people were excited about. We watched Big Mistakes.

Speaker 1:
[49:56] We did? What's Big Mistakes?

Speaker 3:
[50:00] Daniel Levy. He wrote it with Rachel Sennett.

Speaker 1:
[50:06] I really wanted to like it. Did you watch it? No.

Speaker 3:
[50:09] Then we just started. We just started. People love the show.

Speaker 1:
[50:13] I know. I want to love it. I love Rachel Sennett. I love him. I always say you remind me of him. Well, the Schitt's Creek version. Not saying he's not a Zempik, but he is giving a Zempik. His face is so, in a good way, right? Everyone likes to be skinny these days. I don't know. But he looked so different when he was on. And he definitely wasn't fat in Schitt's Creek. So when I said he looked like him, he was also very thin in Schitt's Creek too. But I was just like, it gets younger too. Maybe when you get older, you get a little more.

Speaker 3:
[50:33] Yeah, I think he's just so good.

Speaker 1:
[50:34] He's like a priest, but a gay priest in Big Mistakes. It's very, or preacher, I guess. And he's gay. And I like the idea. I don't love it though. I wish I would have loved it. I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[50:46] I mean, it's developing. It's going somewhere. But if you love him, you like the writing. It's very word heavy. You're just talking a lot and fast and there's a certain pace to it.

Speaker 1:
[50:54] I mean, I can keep up with fast talking.

Speaker 3:
[50:56] No, not for you. I'm just saying to the audience. What is the kind of a show?

Speaker 2:
[51:01] Almost a Guinness Book.

Speaker 3:
[51:03] Because a lot of shows are designed to be a secondary screen. They're very easy and slow. So you can be on your phone and watch a show. But this show is not one of those. This show is like-

Speaker 1:
[51:14] Oh, yeah. I agree. Because yeah, maybe I missed, I feel like I was tuned in. Because also the lady that's in everything, she was in Big Bang Theory. I think she's Sheldon's mom in Big Bang Theory. She's in everything. She was in Roseanne.

Speaker 3:
[51:26] Yeah, she's his mom.

Speaker 1:
[51:28] Yeah. I love the cast. I feel like everyone in the cast is so good. I don't know what's missing for me in that one.

Speaker 3:
[51:36] Once we finish that, we'll try and watch this show.

Speaker 2:
[51:39] It's good. It's a nudity though, so be warned, I suppose.

Speaker 1:
[51:45] I guess we won't be watching that show.

Speaker 2:
[51:46] Elle Fanning's younger, jugs out.

Speaker 1:
[51:47] Oh, okay. I do have a problem with nudity, the older I get. I do feel uncomfy, but I think it's just age or something. I don't know. Or maybe because I have kids. There is something so weird. I used to love anything grouchy, or even just anything sexual. I guess Bridgerton doesn't show nudity too much, but anytime we see boobs on a screen, I'm always just like, turn it off, turn it off. I don't know why. I don't know what it is. It should be normal. I mean, the human body is normal. I'm all about I wish everyone could go topless, but now when I see people topless, I'm very much like, I can't.

Speaker 3:
[52:15] Also, we end up watching it when the kids are napping. So it's like in the middle of the day.

Speaker 2:
[52:18] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[52:19] It's not like we watch it at night. Just boobies in the daytime. Big jugs in the middle of the night. You watch the movie and suddenly somebody's outside, doing something.

Speaker 1:
[52:30] We have people doing construction.

Speaker 2:
[52:32] We're like, are they walking?

Speaker 3:
[52:34] No, you see through the windows. You see the TV.

Speaker 1:
[52:36] Yeah, they're right out there.

Speaker 3:
[52:36] It's just funny.

Speaker 1:
[52:37] That was very much like Righteous Dems. I loved it, but oh my God, the amount of pain that would be showed. I'm like, turn it off, turn it off. It's so, I don't know. There's something that makes me uncomfortable about it, but I don't know. But anyways, the house, what was it? The handmaid? The housemaid?

Speaker 2:
[52:53] The housemaid.

Speaker 1:
[52:54] I like that. Nudity is good. I think it's mild. It's moderate.

Speaker 2:
[52:57] Yeah, and I guess it was, you saw it in the theater, or no, you saw it here at home.

Speaker 1:
[53:01] It was hot here. Oh God, if I saw it in the theater, I would die. I would go.

Speaker 2:
[53:04] Oh, I thought it would be easier because it's like dark and.

Speaker 1:
[53:07] Oh, no, the opposite. I'd be like, what are people doing in the dark? Like, let me leave. I don't know. I don't know. I guess it's a thing. I think with age, you just become approved. So enjoy that wild adolescence. Just running free. It's great when you're young and then now you're old and you have kids and you're just like, oh, my gosh, I can't be seen. We're just crazy. And honestly, I say that I hate that too, because I do hate that. Like America is conditioned to be like, oh, my God, nudity is sexual. We should be ashamed and embarrassed by it. I hate that so much. That's what I'm conditioned for now because it is just a body. Everyone has a body, but damn, they really sexualize everything. And now I'm uncomfy because of it. I hate it. I hate it. But don't be ashamed of your body.

Speaker 2:
[53:47] Well, speaking of big boobs on screens, Sidney Sweeney's cameo in The Devil Wears Prada 2 was cuts. And that was a big headline.

Speaker 1:
[53:54] That's real news.

Speaker 2:
[53:55] It is real news. She had a quick cameo playing herself. Basically the scene, it was going to be like a little montage of celebrities in, I guess, like coming in and out of the magazine. They were going to be like dressed fiercely. But that whole scene ended up being cut.

Speaker 1:
[54:13] Oh, the whole scene is not just her.

Speaker 2:
[54:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah. The headline is like a key because everyone, you know, everyone's got it out for Ms. Sweeney. So that's like a key is kind of funny. Like, damn, they wanted nothing to do with her. But it kind of happens all the time. So when you actually like read the article, it does kind of lose some of the humor and allure. But she was like photographed on set filming it. And I think people were like expecting to see her. So when she wasn't in the film at all, it became like news pretty quick.

Speaker 1:
[54:42] You said there was a celebrity, so why the celebrities weren't there?

Speaker 2:
[54:44] They didn't say who else was in the film.

Speaker 1:
[54:45] Why would they cut a scene like that? That's so weird. Like if you have cameos like that.

Speaker 2:
[54:49] They said it just didn't really make sense for like the story. Like it was a creative decision to mix the whole thing all together.

Speaker 1:
[54:55] Well, why did you write it?

Speaker 2:
[54:56] Well, I guess sometimes on paper you think it's good, but then when you see it in the movie, you're like, oh, it's not giving.

Speaker 1:
[55:02] It sounds like it fits in. I mean, the world is vogue in Met Gala. Like how does it not fit in? Like celebrities, like what do you mean? Sidney Sweeney is at the Met Gala every year with Anna Wintour. Like I don't understand. Like that doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2:
[55:13] That's so funny. I mean, it happened. Obviously like Simone Ashley. Thank God she made the Devil Wears Prada 2 cut. Thank God she has a pretty big character arc in this as well. Thank God. And she's doing the junket with with Caleb here on.

Speaker 1:
[55:27] Oh, they're doing it together?

Speaker 2:
[55:29] Yes. So they're really putting them out there. So I guess they, they play the new assistants, I believe. And they have pretty big roles. So they're not just like little cameos.

Speaker 1:
[55:37] Who's the assistants?

Speaker 2:
[55:39] Caleb and Simone Ashley. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[55:42] That's okay. I love that. That's kind of crazy though, right? The only scene I remember and for the record, I don't love Devil Wears Prada, Sorry Dollar Family. I don't love it. And the reason I don't love it is cause they were calling Anne Hathaway fat. So that's why I like, but I'm not even shading at all. Obviously, like obviously Caleb would like talks about being bigger. Like, yeah. Well, also it's okay for a man to be bigger.

Speaker 2:
[56:04] Anne Hathaway is still giving, she's standing strong in the 2020 body positivity movement that has vanished in 2026. But she, even in the movie, like her and Meryl and all the fashion sequences, they wanted like body diversity in like on the runway.

Speaker 1:
[56:20] In the new movie.

Speaker 2:
[56:21] In the new movie. Yeah. So now they're really pushing. They're like the media landscape has changed. And that's kind of the plot of the movie too, is about like how the magazines are having to adapt to the new media. Because when the first one came out, there was no iPhone. So everything has changed.

Speaker 1:
[56:36] When did the first one come out?

Speaker 2:
[56:37] Is that crazy to think about? Like 2000, it was 20 years ago, 2006.

Speaker 1:
[56:40] So, okay. So the plot is like they have to adapt. Is she like pushing against it? Like, I don't want fatties in this magazine. Or is she just like-

Speaker 2:
[56:47] It's kind of just-

Speaker 1:
[56:48] It just exists.

Speaker 2:
[56:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like-

Speaker 1:
[56:51] They need to explain.

Speaker 2:
[56:52] They need to explain why there's fatties on the runway.

Speaker 1:
[56:54] Yes. What do you mean? We just- If you're watching them back to back and you're just like, wow, you're fat, like that fat girl-

Speaker 2:
[56:59] I think they will establish it's been 20 years.

Speaker 1:
[57:05] Miranda Priestley didn't age or what? She's the exact same age as she was 20 years ago?

Speaker 2:
[57:09] No, the time jump is like a big part of it. Because now Anne Hathaway's character, she's like the big girl in charge of like a PR company. And everyone else is trying to like catch up to her. She's like a seceded Meryl Streep's character. She's more influential and powerful than her now because she's kind of washed.

Speaker 1:
[57:24] But Meryl Streep looks exactly the same.

Speaker 2:
[57:27] And then Gaga and Anne Hathaway looks younger. But that's the story. We're knowing that. We're knowing the characters. The characters are going to be 20 years older.

Speaker 1:
[57:36] I love it. I love it. I love it. We're going to allow for change in growth. I was going to condemn it. I was like, no, don't try and walk back your fat phobic.

Speaker 2:
[57:46] 2006 is a very different time, mama.

Speaker 1:
[57:48] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[57:49] Yeah. They were just going along, riding to the time. That's all you can do, I suppose. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[57:54] Yeah. I love Caleb. I do love him on the red carpet. I love him. I think he's very well spoken. He does seem like a star. He said he was 11 when the first one came out. I just watched an interview with him today. 11. He's like, I was 11. I was a closeted gay boy in Missouri.

Speaker 2:
[58:06] Oh, wow. Yeah. 20 years ago is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[58:09] How old were you? 30. You were 13. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:11] I was 12 or 13 when it came out.

Speaker 1:
[58:13] How old was I? 10 years ago.

Speaker 2:
[58:15] 20 years ago.

Speaker 1:
[58:15] Oh, 20 years. Oh, my God. I was 18.

Speaker 2:
[58:17] Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1:
[58:18] Oh, my God. I'm like an adult in California who's doing drugs already. Like, that's crazy. That's why I missed the first movie. I'm like, in the ditch. You know the story.

Speaker 2:
[58:27] A pick-up truck somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[58:29] Yeah, literally. One-Color Daddy, get the kidnapping story.

Speaker 2:
[58:32] Crazy.

Speaker 1:
[58:33] Yeah, I think that's maybe why I didn't miss out on that because I remember I missed that whole era.

Speaker 2:
[58:37] Do you hate the Devil Wears Prada, though, if that's any consolation? It must be a toy thing. He hates it.

Speaker 1:
[58:41] I do, too, and I hate to say that because I really hate it. I hated everything about it.

Speaker 2:
[58:45] I haven't gone back and watched it in a long time. I remember watching it with my mom. I don't know if we went to the theater, but we definitely owned the DVD. Wow. And that DVD was getting put to use. We watched it a few times. So I was heated for it at some point, but I haven't watched it in at least 15 years.

Speaker 1:
[59:03] So you don't know how awful it's up. We watched it recently. We watched it maybe four or five years ago, and I was like, this is awful.

Speaker 2:
[59:07] I'm intrigued to see how the Devil Wears Prada 2 goes. They kind of lost me a little bit because I feel like we lost the essence of the film because they did a collaboration with the Old Navy, No Shade to Gap, Inc., big fan. But Devil Wears Prada.

Speaker 1:
[59:23] My Old Navy is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[59:24] And it's like white t-shirts with text on it. And it's not giving fashion. It's not giving fierce.

Speaker 1:
[59:30] It's not giving couture.

Speaker 2:
[59:31] It's not giving couture. It's giving couture. I want to see the collection. It's going to be in landfills.

Speaker 3:
[59:37] That's kind of the vibe I get.

Speaker 2:
[59:39] Like a tote bag with like, that is all. I'm like, girl, what? That's a little, I know. No offense if you live for it. If you're gagging for it, more power to you. Me personally, I was gagging in the wrong way. I was like, no, I'm like, this kind of goes against the whole vibe of the movie.

Speaker 1:
[59:54] Yeah, I agree on that point. I think they're actually going to get me to go to the theater because I actually do like now that they have body positivity. Now that I know that. Yeah, OK, I like that. I like it a lot.

Speaker 2:
[60:07] Anne Hathaway was really talked about at the premiere that she was like, no, we really push for that. We want to adapt to where the landscape is now. It's like, that's fierce. And I love that, again, when we're really losing the body positivity movement.

Speaker 1:
[60:21] We are losing. It's vanished. That she's holding it down. That one is so, they really are so skinny.

Speaker 2:
[60:28] Granted, Anne Hathaway looks amazing.

Speaker 1:
[60:29] She looks amazing, she's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[60:31] I love that she's trying.

Speaker 1:
[60:32] I do have a skinny girl for the body positivity movement. You know skinny people want to keep some fat people fat. They're like, because everyone is getting skinny. You just got to get skinnier and skinnier, because now who's like who, yeah, it's just so hard.

Speaker 2:
[60:44] And Caleb did say Anne Hathaway was a key on set too. Okay. Yeah, and she would, he would go up to me and be like, Anne, how are you doing everything? And she would always have a little joke for everything. Like she was a key.

Speaker 1:
[60:55] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[60:56] I think she lives for the gays, so I'll give it to Anne.

Speaker 1:
[60:58] I feel like you guys are doing an anti-smear campaign. The opposite of a smear. What is it? What's the opposite of a smear campaign?

Speaker 2:
[61:03] I guess just a regular smegular PR campaign, baby.

Speaker 1:
[61:06] Yeah, you're trying to bring her back.

Speaker 2:
[61:07] Yeah. Annie, I got you, girl.

Speaker 1:
[61:09] I like it. I do like that. I did hear Anne Hathaway news. I do like, I think I'm going to go back on that train. I was never on the Anne Hathaway train, but maybe I'll get on it. I saw the book she bought the rights to about the influencer tradwife. Did you see that?

Speaker 2:
[61:21] I did see that in passing.

Speaker 1:
[61:23] So she bought rights to this, I guess it's a book. And I love the concept of this. It's like literally like an influencer tradwife, because the whole thing now is like the Nara Smiths of it all. And obviously other people like Ballerini Farms, who like take it more extreme and have like 20 kids in there, like on a farm, and they give up their dreams to do this life. And they take care of your man and bake everything and whatever, which is like, I'm not against that, whatever. But in this book that she is adapting into a movie is like, she gets transported back to like the 1800s and has to actually be that tradwife. And obviously like the influencer tradwife probably would not survive as a tradwife in the 1800s.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] That's gaggy.

Speaker 1:
[61:55] I like that. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, does she get back with like a cell phone? Is she like an influencer in that era? Like that's kind of like, yeah, I'm really excited.

Speaker 2:
[62:01] I'm pretty seated for that. Narsmith ironically was at the Devil Wears Prada premiere too.

Speaker 1:
[62:05] Maybe she has some involvement in that. Maybe she'll be one of the, you know how like Stepford wives, there was like all the Stepford wives, maybe the tradwives will be. Narsmith is, is she in the movie?

Speaker 2:
[62:14] I don't think so. I think they have a lot of influencers though at the Devil Wars Prada 2 premiere. It was everyone who was like a model with some followers was there. It was big.

Speaker 1:
[62:24] In New York?

Speaker 2:
[62:25] They went all out, yeah, in New York.

Speaker 1:
[62:27] She's beautiful. Maybe she has a cameo in it.

Speaker 2:
[62:30] Maybe because I think why would you be there? Tea, but they did have a lot of influencers. But I mean, they have so many fashion show sequences and it wouldn't make sense to see Nara and Lucky Smith either walk in the runway or in the fashion show somewhere seated and watching it.

Speaker 1:
[62:46] That would be fun to see.

Speaker 2:
[62:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[62:47] Yeah. That's like we went to the Hacks where we saw, I saw Justin McCartney at the after party and I was like, Oh, that's so random, Justin McCartney is here. And then like, it's on the episode. I was like, who is that?

Speaker 2:
[62:56] Darien said that too.

Speaker 1:
[62:57] Darien! At least Darien is like this generation that should know. I guess not. I guess he's too young.

Speaker 2:
[63:01] Too young to know about Justin McCartney, really.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] I feel like he's kind of a cultural icon though. I feel like he goes, spans the decades.

Speaker 2:
[63:07] Yeah. I guess Darien wasn't in America when Justin McCartney also was like popular.

Speaker 1:
[63:11] Was he not international?

Speaker 2:
[63:13] I don't know if he was big in Costa Rica. Might have to do a little, might have to check the demographic.

Speaker 1:
[63:18] How about you? Do you know if he is international?

Speaker 3:
[63:21] I don't know. I mean, I would remember songs but not a person.

Speaker 1:
[63:24] I don't want another pretty face. I don't want just anyone to hold.

Speaker 2:
[63:39] I want the moon and the moon go to waste.

Speaker 3:
[63:47] No.

Speaker 2:
[63:48] Oh. That song got me. I was like, oh, he's looking at my soul, baby.

Speaker 1:
[63:52] It's so good. It is so good. Even when they did it and everyone was singing in the episode, I was like, singing, because I was like, this is good. Me too.

Speaker 2:
[63:58] I lived. It's timeless.

Speaker 1:
[63:58] It's timeless. It's so good.

Speaker 3:
[64:02] I thought it was like Ed Sheeran or something. Oh.

Speaker 1:
[64:04] You thought it was Ed Sheeran?

Speaker 3:
[64:05] This song. You were just singing like if I had to guess.

Speaker 1:
[64:07] Oh, okay. I thought you went and you saw it happen. I thought it was Ed Sheeran.

Speaker 2:
[64:12] okay, Ed Sheeran cameo.

Speaker 1:
[64:13] It was like Ed Sheeran. Okay. Do you have a trailer for Meet the Fockers or Fokker in Law?

Speaker 2:
[64:19] Yeah, it's Fokker in Law. I'm excited. I thought Ariana was going to have a small role, but it looks like she's kind of one of the main characters.

Speaker 1:
[64:26] She's on the poster.

Speaker 2:
[64:26] Yeah, she's on the poster. She's like lead credit. So I'm excited. I didn't really care about the other movies. I only watched the first one as a kid with my parents.

Speaker 1:
[64:35] People loved Meet the Parents when I came out.

Speaker 2:
[64:36] They would live for that.

Speaker 1:
[64:37] My brother bought that on DVD. Every boy was like, this is such a funny movie. I guess it was the time I haven't watched it since. Ben Stillman only stands by the first two, he said. He said he stands by those and the little he had said to them happened. Sounds like a bad concept for a movie.

Speaker 2:
[64:53] I'm excited for Ariana.

Speaker 1:
[64:55] People are divided that she looks just like Ariana Grande.

Speaker 2:
[64:58] I've seen a lot of TikToks of this too. And I'm like, ladies, let's wait until we actually see the film. Because when I see Jacob Elordi in any old project, besides Frankenstein, where he literally had a suit of skin on, I do be seeing it. When I saw Wuthering Heights, I did see Jacob Elordi.

Speaker 1:
[65:15] That's a good point. That's a good point, right. I guess because he's right. I think Ariana has such a distinct look with her hair and her brows and her skin. I feel like it makes her look like a character because she's more charactery as opposed to maybe a Jacob Elordi or even a Mark Robbie who always looks the same. They kind of just look like a person. Not to say she doesn't look like a person, but you know what I mean? She looks more charactery.

Speaker 2:
[65:36] I think.

Speaker 1:
[65:37] I don't know. I'm here for it. I love Ariana.

Speaker 2:
[65:39] I see the argument. I think she gets it. And I feel like maybe, did Lady Gaga get it? Definitely not in A Star Is Born, but maybe later on. But I feel like you know them differently. So it's kind of like you, I guess, right? I feel like when people see you in anything, like granted the character that you're playing, but I feel like even if you were playing, the Fokker in Law, I'd be like, oh, it looks like Trisha.

Speaker 1:
[66:03] Well, I probably would be playing Trisha Paytas, the influencer in that. Like, oh, here's my girlfriend. She's been an influencer for 20 years. You eat on camera? Yeah, that's what I do, sir. Like I would just be playing myself. But Ariana, when she's on SNL and she does like the one where she did Bow and Yang and she was like the mom that was homophobic and she had the girl, you didn't see Ariana. So I kind of like get it. Maybe they should have done like a little bit different because everyone's like, oh, her voice, because her voice sounds different. She's not doing the like Glinda voice anymore. So it's like, it's almost there.

Speaker 3:
[66:30] Also, why are they like, I'm looking at the poster. So like is Robert De Niro doesn't look like Robert De Niro or Ben Stiller?

Speaker 1:
[66:37] Well, that was like Oscar's argument.

Speaker 3:
[66:39] They literally. But I guess what I was saying is like, and she's so funny, like I'm wicked. She's such a great comedic actor. I think she's going to be great.

Speaker 2:
[66:49] No, I have seen a lot of people on TikTok say that. And I kind of get the argument. I think it's like people also pointed out like her makeup is the same in real life as it is in the movie as the character.

Speaker 1:
[67:02] Right.

Speaker 2:
[67:03] And I could see something like that too. But I'm like, let's just wait until we see the film before you know, we really jump on and make some commentary. Because the film I thought was going to be good was Michael. I just assumed it was going to be good because it's a biopic.

Speaker 1:
[67:15] Did you watch it?

Speaker 2:
[67:15] I didn't watch it. And I didn't really plan to watch it, to be honest. I just don't really like a biopic like that. I don't really get it.

Speaker 1:
[67:21] You and Allie and AJ, when they're like, I don't like a biopic, I'm like, what? That's my favorite genre. I love, even if I have no idea who it's about, I'm like, I'm going to watch a biopic.

Speaker 2:
[67:31] You do live for it. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[67:32] I love a real story.

Speaker 2:
[67:34] I was just going to let people have their fun in passing from over here respectfully. And I just assumed it was going to be good because it's a biopic and then I thought it was pretty hyped up.

Speaker 1:
[67:46] Yeah. His nephew's playing him.

Speaker 2:
[67:49] Yeah. Jafar Jackson is playing him. I heard he was amazing in it. But yeah, so far, he's sitting under 30% on Rotten Tomatoes. And the reviews have not been super favorable.

Speaker 1:
[67:59] What are they saying? What are the reviews saying?

Speaker 2:
[68:00] I think the big criticism is, positive first, Jafar Jackson, everyone's saying he's amazing in it, saying it's not even a nepotism thing. He's just that good where he loses. When you're watching him, you do think it's Michael Jackson because the way that Jafar Jackson studied the performances and the choreography and the musicality and the voice, he even slept in Michael Jackson's childhood bedroom to really immerse himself in the vibes. So he was dedicated. He went all the way in.

Speaker 1:
[68:28] That's like 95% of the movie is like that, then that's good. What's the problem?

Speaker 2:
[68:31] Well, the problem, I think it comes to the writing is kind of what it seems. Overall consensus is because the Jackson estate was involved in the production of it, that it's kind of like a very sanitized PR friendly surface level view of Michael Jackson and his childhood. It kind of hints at things like the beginning of the film opens up with him reading Peter Pant like hint that is like arrested development and stuff, but it doesn't really get in to the deeper levels of Michael Jackson. It doesn't obviously touch at all on like all the allegations and any of that stuff as well. And at one point they were going to include that not fully either kind of like touch on it to show the audience that yes, it's kind of addressed, but then that ended up being scrapped too. So none of that is even in the movie as of right now because there is a part two that's in pre-production, but I guess we'll see how well this does.

Speaker 1:
[69:27] Same producers and everything. Because they've done movies on Michael's Life. They've done biopics where they show that stuff. So it's like, I mean, there's already pictures out there like that. It's just like all the Elvis movies. I mean, some show them in a great light, like obviously, you watch Baz Luhrmann vs. Sofia Coppola's like, Brasila vs. Elvis. It's like two different Elvis's. Like which one is this? That's the problem with a biopic is like, and also when you're dead, you really don't get to say, Elle and John did it right. He had a living biopic. He's like, I'm going to be on set. I'll let people know.

Speaker 2:
[69:53] And I think because the family was pretty involved, minus Janet and I think one other Jackson wasn't involved. But I know like Michael's mom was involved and like loved the movie. The rest of the family really loved it and said Jafar was amazing. But maybe the problem was they were just like too involved where they wouldn't. Even if you don't go too deep into allegations stuff, they said like even with, what is it called? Wonderland? What is it called? His estate?

Speaker 1:
[70:22] Oh, Neverland.

Speaker 2:
[70:23] Even with Neverland, they don't really go that deep into that either. Like they don't really explore why he sees the animals as his friends and stuff. So like they just don't really get.

Speaker 1:
[70:34] I mean, they had to make a 20-hour movie to get for all of it in there.

Speaker 2:
[70:37] Like basically five hours because you got the two-parter movie. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[70:40] Is Bubbles in there? The Chimp?

Speaker 2:
[70:42] A CGI Bubbles. The Chimp is in there.

Speaker 1:
[70:44] Oh, I love that. Right? We love that because they're not animal.

Speaker 2:
[70:47] I think that's better than getting a real animal.

Speaker 1:
[70:49] I love a CGI. Did you ever watch the movie, not the Jack Black one, the original Anaconda in 1997?

Speaker 2:
[70:55] Yes. And that was my fear was big nicks coming out of the pipes.

Speaker 1:
[70:58] That's so terrifying. I just watched the ending of it this morning. Spoiler alert, I guess, when John Voight gets eaten, and they show it from inside. As it's inside, so you just see John Voight's face up, and you're just seeing it from inside the snake, and it's just like, what the f**k was that? Why do they do that movie? It's like JLo and Ice Cube are wrapped up in him, and then he's eating John. Why do they do that? And is the new Jack Black movie like that?

Speaker 2:
[71:27] I believe more comedic because it's Jack Black and Paul Rudd, I don't think it's a survival animal horror film tale. I think it's more-

Speaker 1:
[71:35] But same concept.

Speaker 2:
[71:36] I would assume a big ass snake is involved, but I think it's mostly for laughs.

Speaker 1:
[71:42] I want to watch the Jack Black one, but I'm like really scared.

Speaker 2:
[71:44] You know who else was in another animal horror film was... Why am I forgetting a real name?

Speaker 1:
[71:52] What's the name?

Speaker 2:
[71:52] Bridgerton, season one, Daphne Bridgerton.

Speaker 1:
[71:55] Oh, Blunt, is her name Blunt?

Speaker 2:
[71:58] Why am I forgetting her?

Speaker 1:
[71:58] I know, Daphne. Phoebe, Phoebe.

Speaker 2:
[72:02] Phoebe Denever, I think?

Speaker 1:
[72:04] Oh, that sounds like the right one.

Speaker 2:
[72:05] Yes, Phoebe Denever.

Speaker 1:
[72:06] Love her.

Speaker 2:
[72:07] This Netflix one with sharks, like...

Speaker 1:
[72:10] Oh, a sharkado?

Speaker 2:
[72:13] Almost that, where like a town gets flooded and there's like, it's their big export is meat. So it gets flooded and then these sharks from the river come in. And because there's so much meat from all the butchers, they go crazy. And then Spoiler Alert, I guess, for this random Netflix movie that is new. It came out last week and it actually did really, really well. Like I didn't watch it, but it's like the most viewed by a lot.

Speaker 1:
[72:36] Oh, I want to watch it now.

Speaker 2:
[72:38] I think you got for the ending.

Speaker 1:
[72:39] I do. Oh, what is it? Tell me.

Speaker 2:
[72:41] Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1:
[72:51] Spoiler warning.

Speaker 2:
[72:53] I don't even know what it's called, but for the shark movie on Netflix. So she's pregnant in the movie, and in the end, she gives birth, like, in, not the ocean, in the town that's flooded. A shark, she just gives birth, so all the blood is out. So the sharks are starting to come for her. She puts her little baby infant on, like, this floating door, I guess, and it was like, hold on, mom's got to fight some sharks. And then, because she has, like, you know, she has all the hormones and everything, and she's in, like, protector mode for her infant or her newborn, she just, like, beats these sharks up.

Speaker 1:
[73:25] With her bare hands?

Speaker 2:
[73:26] With, like, debris, like, wood and stuff, like, she stabs them. It's like, yeah, it looks pretty fierce. I saw a clip on TikTok and I was like, this actually looks kind of crazy.

Speaker 1:
[73:34] That's my new goal. I was thinking about manifesting new dreams because I've, like, achieved all my dreams. Like, what's my new one? I would love to be in, like, a Sharknado or one of those. Like, I would love to just battle some, not the Anaconda, but maybe all the other ones, too. There was, like, a scary one, a Stephen King book, a movie about a dog. Do you remember that one?

Speaker 2:
[73:50] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[73:50] I, like, I was, like...

Speaker 2:
[73:51] It was, like, a black dog, right?

Speaker 1:
[73:52] Yeah, so, Cujo, maybe?

Speaker 2:
[73:54] Cujo, yes.

Speaker 1:
[73:54] I was so scared of that movie. But I would love to be in a movie where I'm just, like, I guess I don't want to attack a dog. Maybe I'll attack the sharks or something. That might sound better. Maybe an Anaconda. I guess I... What happens at the end? Does someone kill the Anaconda?

Speaker 2:
[74:04] I would assume, right?

Speaker 1:
[74:05] They stab his neck or something?

Speaker 2:
[74:07] Probably.

Speaker 1:
[74:07] It's a huge Anaconda.

Speaker 2:
[74:09] It is big.

Speaker 1:
[74:09] CGI. It was pretty good back then, 1997 CGI.

Speaker 2:
[74:12] Uh-huh. I think those films back then used a lot of practical effects, though, so that's why they hold up better.

Speaker 1:
[74:16] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[74:17] Like Jurassic Park, they used practical dinosaurs. Jaws, obviously, is a practical shark.

Speaker 1:
[74:22] How do you think they did the snake?

Speaker 2:
[74:25] I'm sure some of it is CGI and VFX, but they build parts of it to look real. I'm sure they built the face or something, and the body to make it slither a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[74:35] It looked really real. It was so crazy at the end. I was like, damn, that's a crazy movie.

Speaker 2:
[74:40] That's why a lot of older movies kind of hold up more, because they're less CGI-y.

Speaker 1:
[74:43] That is a good point. I really wish Universal would bring back their old attractions. I miss all that. We got to go do the tour before they change it again. We got to plan a date and do that. I'm seated for Universal's city lot.

Speaker 3:
[74:54] Yeah, it says they used a combination of large-scale animatronics puppets.

Speaker 1:
[74:59] Oh, for Anaconda?

Speaker 3:
[75:01] Yeah, they had a 40-foot and a 25-foot models.

Speaker 1:
[75:06] That'd be fun to be in a movie like that, though. That's why I always think they should do The Ten Commandments as a horror movie, because that'd be so crazy, right? There's like, what has happened to the flies or lice? What does he battle? Moses, the biblical Moses? Is that what it is? Locust?

Speaker 3:
[75:19] The ten plagues?

Speaker 1:
[75:20] What is Locust?

Speaker 2:
[75:21] Like a little grasshopper?

Speaker 3:
[75:23] Oh, yeah, that'd be crazy. But he didn't battle the plagues. He was putting the plagues on the Egyptians.

Speaker 1:
[75:30] He was putting the plague. Right, but that'd be a crazy scene to film. It's just like grasshoppers just attacking everybody. They have done it?

Speaker 3:
[75:37] There's definitely movies that-

Speaker 1:
[75:38] About the ten plagues? No.

Speaker 3:
[75:40] I mean, they have the bigger story and in that they show the ten plagues.

Speaker 1:
[75:43] Like the Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston doesn't show. What are the other plagues? Anyone know? Bible study here?

Speaker 3:
[75:50] We got frogs.

Speaker 1:
[75:53] What were the frogs supposed to do? God sent the frogs to do what?

Speaker 3:
[75:57] I think, I mean, each one affected, like let's say their agriculture or it affected their water or everything like caused basically that they couldn't, it interrupted their life so they couldn't work, they couldn't eat, they couldn't drink.

Speaker 2:
[76:09] You were right, one of them was lice.

Speaker 1:
[76:12] Like everyone's gonna itch their head for eternity. Why did God send that?

Speaker 3:
[76:15] Well, also the animals and the livestock, all of them, everyone.

Speaker 1:
[76:20] What was the point of that?

Speaker 2:
[76:21] I think it has to affect the livestock, like to make it uninhabitable.

Speaker 1:
[76:25] So there's lice, locust, frogs.

Speaker 2:
[76:27] Water to blood was one, frogs two, lice, slash gnats was three, flies was four, flies. pestilence was five, so like the livestock just dying off completely. Boils was six, seven was hail, eight was locusts, nine darkness, and 10 death of the firstborn.

Speaker 1:
[76:46] Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[76:47] Literally, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1:
[76:49] I know, why did he do that? That's crazy, God did it? That's crazy, that's Old Testament God. Moses always said he was the mean one. He's like, New Testament God seems a little nicer. Why the hell did he do that? It's a fake, right? Right? That's not real. Or is it?

Speaker 3:
[77:06] It's like mythology, it's mixed.

Speaker 1:
[77:09] But you know, okay. But everyone knows that, that reads the Bible. They're like, well, this is like symbolic, right? It's not like an actual thing that happened.

Speaker 3:
[77:17] Part of it, but for example, when they talk about them walking through the water, they said that they knew of a place where the water, the tide will go down and they were able to cross and then the tide will come back up. So some things are mixed.

Speaker 1:
[77:31] So Moses sent Partizy.

Speaker 3:
[77:32] But you know, like Moses was a pharaoh. And some people believe Moses stole basically knowledge from the Library of Egypt, and he and his entourage left Egypt with that knowledge. So there's many ways to look at it.

Speaker 1:
[77:51] Let's see you Partizy. Do people tell you that growing up? Or like, let's see you Partizy, Moses? Did people ever say that?

Speaker 3:
[77:57] Not really.

Speaker 1:
[77:58] Really? That's the first thing I thought when I heard your name. I was like, hmm.

Speaker 3:
[78:01] Go Partizy.

Speaker 1:
[78:02] Yeah. Whatever he's part of the sea. I feel like, OK, people were nice to you then as a kid. You never got bullied. Pretty cool. I love your name. I think it's great. We have Aquaman Moses.

Speaker 3:
[78:11] Yeah, that's for my name, I think. OK.

Speaker 1:
[78:14] As you shouldn't be. I don't know why that thought of me. But you know, you got, I got made fun of for my name. I always got made fun of for my name.

Speaker 2:
[78:20] I got called Oscar Mayer Weiner.

Speaker 1:
[78:22] Yeah, as I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[78:23] But I don't know the context now that I'm thinking about it. Like, were they saying go suck a wiener? I don't think we were there yet because it was like, early. Yeah, I was really early. Or was it like, go eat some lunch meat, fatty? Like, I don't know what the context was.

Speaker 1:
[78:37] Or was it just like, just the name?

Speaker 2:
[78:39] Yeah, just the name.

Speaker 1:
[78:40] Mine definitely was fatty. Mine was Trisha Fatass.

Speaker 2:
[78:43] Sorry. Meet it with that. That's pretty funny, you speak.

Speaker 1:
[78:48] I think they were trying to be mean about my weight. And I wasn't even fat. I look back, I always show pictures. I wasn't a skinny girl, but I wasn't even fat back then. It's so gaggy. I was like, damn, I kind of looked like a normal little kid.

Speaker 3:
[79:02] Yeah, but that's how kids are.

Speaker 1:
[79:04] Kids are.

Speaker 3:
[79:05] They'll just put something on you that you don't have. It makes it even more annoying.

Speaker 1:
[79:10] I know. That's why I'm a helicopter parent. Anywhere in dance class, I'm sitting there by the window just making sure everyone is nice and everything. Because I'm like, no, these kids can be vicious. Where do they learn it to? Because the kids are so young. And it's like, where do they even hear fat five? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[79:24] Everything comes from home.

Speaker 1:
[79:26] Crazy.

Speaker 2:
[79:27] That is diabolical.

Speaker 1:
[79:28] Wow. The two of us were made fun of and one of us was not.

Speaker 3:
[79:32] Because the root word of my last name is smart. So even if they try to make fun of it, it usually was not a negative, it was a positive.

Speaker 1:
[79:45] OK, damn. Never, ever gotten made fun of for anything in your life. That's crazy. I mean, that's good.

Speaker 3:
[79:51] I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1:
[79:52] I'm happy for you. They know drama.

Speaker 3:
[79:55] Not from that, I mean, kids. I was one thing I would say to kids, teachers, people were always nice to me. They were like, I would say the life outside in the world was nicer and brighter. So I was always, so it's always like that was my pool is to the outside world.

Speaker 1:
[80:16] So if you wrote a memoir and they ask you about your childhood, you're going to be like, it was wonderful and perfection.

Speaker 3:
[80:21] Like I said, outside the world.

Speaker 1:
[80:25] Love that. I do. I love it. That makes me happy that people have just happy childhoods too. I like that. That gives me hope. Everyone seems to have a traumatic childhood, which everyone does to this extent. But you are kind of like that, though, too. You think you have very little trauma in your life.

Speaker 2:
[80:38] Yeah. As a child, I didn't have that much trauma, just the usual fatty baggage. But nothing is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[80:44] I guess I didn't know you got made up on it for a way. Because you were kind of popular in high school.

Speaker 2:
[80:50] I didn't really get bullied that much for being a biggie, really. I think it was just kind of like, yeah, there he is, big boy. You know what I mean? So it wasn't really that much of a talking point. Even though I was thinking about this, ironically, because I saw someone from high school at the gym this morning who was one of the cool guys who definitely called me gay at one point, but he kind of spilled. But he was kind of like stronger. And he was like the jock. He was like one of the jocks, the football players and the cross players. And he was a little flabby. I was a little stronger than him. So I felt good. Did you go tell him, hey, flabby.

Speaker 1:
[81:25] Yeah, look at the little flabby.

Speaker 2:
[81:26] What now?

Speaker 1:
[81:27] What? I went a thousand percent. Anyone who called me, I don't look it up too much, but anyone who called me fat, I love to see them be so much fatter than me. I was like, you are so much fatter actually. So like what? I went a hundred percent. That is crazy that you like live where you grew up. That's so weird.

Speaker 2:
[81:43] I know, because I do see people in the area pretty frequently, I think. But I think, because the guys were kind of debauchers, like the jocks in my high school, but I think the girls like me and they all, there was like the cool girls and they all dated the same group of boys because it was a small school. So I think the girls kind of shielded me from like any hate crimes. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[82:06] I like that.

Speaker 2:
[82:07] Yeah. But it's weird because other people at my school, like one time when I posted my yearbook photo where I was like voted most unforgettable and I thought it was like, I thought it was like, yes, like we're never going to forget him. But then it was like me and the other like really weird girl who stunk and I was like, oh, maybe they were being a little shady. And I was like, wait, I think they're being a little shady with this. And everyone who had like a bad experience in high school was like, did f that school, f that school. And I was like, oh, it wasn't that bad for me, y'all.

Speaker 1:
[82:33] But yeah, that was me too. Me and the Homecoming King, we both were like chubby and awkward. And I was like, it feels very much that I hate high school. But if you're going through high school, it is such a small blip in life. When you look back, when I think about it now, I'm like, God, high school truly, when I go to my book too, it's like it feels like it's not even my life. Like I feel like I never went to high school or school ever. Like it's like a blip. It's like so quick.

Speaker 2:
[82:55] I was thinking about it too, because it's like four years back then seems like so long. Like when you start high school, you're like, oh my God, four years here. How am I going to survive? And then now as an adult, four years is like literally nothing. Like 2021 or 2022 to now, like I feel like flew by in a little blip. But it's crazy back then. It's like the longest period forever.

Speaker 1:
[83:17] I just never thought I was going to be 18. It was like the slowest moving thing, but it goes so fast. David Dobrik recently said that he peaked in high school. He's like, I'm glad I was successful after high school. So that way, like at least I had success. But I definitely peaked in high school. What? It's giving that. It's giving he peaked in high school. I think probably because he just had more hair and stuff back then. He probably, you know what I mean? Like he's like, I was better looking, you know? And he always says it. He says it, not me. He's like, I peaked. And I'm like, I think you're right. And he's like, well, now I have money. And so people could be like, oh, he has money. But yeah, he always talks about like that was his heyday. And I'm like, what a loser. Like you're 30 being like, high school was my heyday. Like you're such a loser.

Speaker 2:
[83:56] That's so odd.

Speaker 1:
[83:57] And you're like, and he just recently said that like a couple of weeks ago. Like he said, I was in my car and I was listening to a podcast and he did say that. And I was like, that's so weird. Like, and he does make a lot of money and he's rich and stuff. And I'm like, and you still think you peaked in high school and that was your glory day and you wish you could go back to that? That is so weird.

Speaker 3:
[84:11] Well, it never ended for him. He just kept going.

Speaker 1:
[84:15] He's 30 and he's still acting like that.

Speaker 2:
[84:18] He looked like a loser back in high school. Like he didn't look anything special. It was just like a schmuck.

Speaker 1:
[84:22] Let me see.

Speaker 2:
[84:23] I just know cause he posted this photo with...

Speaker 1:
[84:26] Is it a high school picture of him?

Speaker 2:
[84:27] Yeah, he's like high school prom, I guess. He doesn't look like a cool guy. He looks like kind of a nerd.

Speaker 1:
[84:33] Such a nerd, but that's what he looks like now and people think he's cool. So I don't know. He's always been a dweeb. Is that Natalie with him?

Speaker 2:
[84:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:42] I do not care for them.

Speaker 2:
[84:45] Breaking news, everybody.

Speaker 3:
[84:47] Was there a picture or rumor that they're together or something?

Speaker 1:
[84:50] No, I did not hear that. I did not. But he does look... Okay, David, you did not peak in high school. Like you... Maybe when you were like 20.

Speaker 2:
[84:58] I think he peaked in like 2019 when I loved you.

Speaker 1:
[85:00] That's a good one. Yeah, you looked a little better.

Speaker 2:
[85:02] I thought he was so cute. I still can't get over it.

Speaker 1:
[85:06] More charmed back then. Yeah. He's the only one that had like the glow up and like lost weight and got shard and was like, ew. It says a lot about personality.

Speaker 2:
[85:14] Actually, I keep saying like a lot of guys who are like, not junky, I guess dad bod, you would say. And they're all getting so skinny now.

Speaker 1:
[85:24] And I'm like, I hate that. I love a dad bod.

Speaker 2:
[85:26] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[85:27] I think a lot of people do. I think girls like it. I think gay guys like it. I think the only people who don't like dad bods are guys.

Speaker 2:
[85:34] Yeah, T. That kind of reminds me randomly.

Speaker 1:
[85:37] Who are you thinking of that has the dad bod that got skinny?

Speaker 2:
[85:40] I'll censor the name. But he was like, his thing was eating, actually. Weirdly, he would go and eat and he was like a food influencer, but he's so skinny now.

Speaker 1:
[85:51] Is he problematic? Why are you censoring and whispering?

Speaker 2:
[85:53] Because I feel bad because he's like a nice gay guy.

Speaker 1:
[85:55] But he's like, yeah, he's just nice.

Speaker 2:
[85:57] Yeah, I'm not trying to be mean or body shame, but I thought he was like attractive, like people were thirsty for him because he was bigger.

Speaker 3:
[86:05] You're right. That's why I was like, what's happening?

Speaker 1:
[86:12] I'm scared. I'm like, do you want the folks to hear you?

Speaker 3:
[86:19] That was so funny.

Speaker 1:
[86:21] Okay, he's a good person. And he just don't want to get hate.

Speaker 2:
[86:25] But like what I feel like what made him stand out, what made him stand out and like what made everyone thirst for him.

Speaker 1:
[86:30] That was the dad bod.

Speaker 2:
[86:31] Yeah. He had like just a little bit of belly and it was like, it was hotter.

Speaker 1:
[86:36] I love a little belly. Yeah. I love a little belly. Like I love it.

Speaker 2:
[86:39] It's a little shocking.

Speaker 1:
[86:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[86:41] That's what I read too. It was like girls aren't into like the shredded look anymore. I read that girls aren't into like abs anymore and they also want their men a little fruity. Like that's kind of the trend right now. It's just like you want a little in your street man, which I think is true.

Speaker 1:
[86:54] Oh yeah, because like there is nothing worse than like toxic, masculine, fight club, Jeff Wittek. I love Brad Pitt. Why is Jeff Wittek in it? Because he is the epitome of that. He is the epitome and it's so cringe and I hate it so much. I need a little bit of that too. That's yeah. Well, you guys answered that question on that love line. You and Mako, you guys answered a little question. They were talking about being like, you know, having some femininity and it's like that is attractive. The most secure you can be, the abs I never liked. I never liked abs and then or emaciated tummy.

Speaker 2:
[87:27] Not emaciated tummy, it's just crazy.

Speaker 1:
[87:30] Moses, he would forget to eat. I would always ask him, oh my God, your show, when I met him, his tummy would go in. It was an in belly and I was like, where's your belly? It was like in and he didn't eat and you didn't. I would call him and be like, oh, it's 7 o'clock at night. Oh, I forgot to eat dinner. Maybe I'll eat something. What do you mean? You didn't eat anything all day? He's like, no, I've been busy. I'm like, that's so insane. It was the opposite. It was just like in your belly. It was literally like Jesus on the cross. It was so insane. And now I love everything about to break because you're very strong. You have your thick thighs and you always say you have like a little bit of belly. Like after you eat, which everyone does, like after he eats, he's like, I got a belly. I'm like, well, you just ate. You know what I mean? But it's like, which is a very skinny thing, actually. Skinny people, because you know me, I don't blow as Mrs. McCarthy says in Bridesmaids. Like when you're big, you really don't blow. You could eat a meal and you're just fine. But when you're skinny or have a tight tummy and you eat, it pops out a little bit. I love it. Our kids love it because you just have a little place to rest. It looks good. It looks nice in a shirt. Like it just looks good when it's in. No offense to people who are so skinny, but it looks like Jesus on the cross. And you're like, what is happening right now? Are you okay?

Speaker 3:
[88:33] It looks different because it's a real dead body. Like there's a reason it's called that, because it is the life of being a dad.

Speaker 1:
[88:40] Yeah, you're just eating when you can and what you can. And you look great. It's so crazy. Moses will be like, I need to lose weight. I'm like, it's so, so insane. It's under 200 pounds now. Can I say that? Is that offensive? You're under 200 pounds now. Can I say that? You were 199.

Speaker 3:
[88:55] I don't think anyone cares, but.

Speaker 1:
[88:57] I cared. I was so excited because I'm on the side of TikTok. It's like the first time you reach under 200 pounds. I was 229. I haven't been into my 220s in a long time. I was 229. I was so excited. I was 265 when I gave birth to Aquaman. I was so excited. My dad was like, I'm 165. I was like, oh, okay. I was so excited because I told my dad. I rarely tell my dad, but you know, both my mom and dad are obsessed with being skinny. I was like, oh my God, I'm down to 229. This is so exciting because it happened that morning when he came up. Then he's like, oh, I just hit 165.

Speaker 3:
[89:23] I was like, no.

Speaker 1:
[89:27] He said it to you too, right? When you're like, did he ask you how much you weighed?

Speaker 3:
[89:30] No. One time, I was sitting with Malibu, we're drawing, so I sit on her little chair next to her. He was trying to figure out if he can sit on the chair, because he always stands or comes comfortable. So he's just like, look at me, he's like, how much do you weigh? I was like, wow, nobody ever asked me that question.

Speaker 1:
[89:48] It was a crazy question to ask somebody.

Speaker 3:
[89:50] Also knowing how much he cares about it.

Speaker 1:
[89:53] What's the right answer?

Speaker 3:
[89:54] I told him, I was like, wow, I didn't know you weighed that much. I weigh this and this.

Speaker 2:
[89:58] I can definitely take a seat. I can carry a few bags of potatoes with me.

Speaker 3:
[90:07] He's underweight for his height.

Speaker 1:
[90:09] No, he does not.

Speaker 3:
[90:13] Most of my life, I was underweight for my height. Now, I'm the right weight for my height.

Speaker 1:
[90:17] Oh my God, your wrists were disappearing when I met you. I was just like, and I never dated anyone that skinny. I almost thought I was going to crush you at any moment. Even laying on you, I was holding my body weight. I'm like, let me just not. Which is fine again if you're naturally skinny, whatever. But yeah, my dad had to go to the doctor. And they're literally like, he's like, yeah, now I eat three meals a day. I was like, why? He's like, the doctor told me it's actually worse to not eat. And I was like, yeah, you gotta go to the doctor to do that. So now he eats three meals a day. And I was like, OK, well, probably should have been doing that for a while. Explains why. I always tell him, I was like, do you see how I am the way I am now? It's like me. And they're harmless. They don't mean anything bad by it. But they're just so conditioned, that generation. You know, my mom, too, they're just so conditioned to be skinny forever. That's fine. I suppose you can't, you know, change your habit. But I was excited for my 229.

Speaker 2:
[91:05] You know, what I saw that made me laugh, too, is Vanilla Mace is back to streaming. And she was telling her viewers that she now has to, like, medically lose weight because she got diagnosed with Diabetes 3. So she's not diabetic, actually, but could.

Speaker 1:
[91:22] What's Diabetes 3?

Speaker 2:
[91:23] It's like just like a higher blood sugar. Like you do have to just like look out for your weight and stuff. And then also she was like, I did some blood work and they said I had fatty liver disease. And she was really got like fatty, fatty liver. And usually she was also gags. She's like, usually that's from drinking. She's like, I don't even partake in that. So I got it for nothing. But anyway, so she's like, kind of gave the warning. She's like, okay, so like, I actually have to do lose a little bit of weight. And then like immediately one of the first comments she read was, damn, everyone in LA getting skinny. And it's like, girl, like, okay, she actually for her well being.

Speaker 1:
[91:56] It's very, no, people do need it. But Remy was also, she was also that shit. I actually do have PCOS and I need to do the Ozempic. And I'm like, you know, it's sad. It's kind of sad you have to give a warning for it. But at the end of the day, like people, yes, everyone wants to be skinny. I've been saying this for so long. Like every big person, like I feel like wants to be skinny. I don't know if there's any big persons like, just also like comfortability. I think a lot of people are fine with being big. Like obviously me, like I'm fine with it. But if you are given a miracle pill and you could be skinny, why wouldn't you, like you would try it, right?

Speaker 2:
[92:31] I mean, I think it's everybody. It depends on how skinny I guess.

Speaker 1:
[92:37] Right. I mean, there's levels to it, but like someone who's, if I'm 265 at five foot three, I think it's okay if I lose 60 pounds, you know? I don't think it would be.

Speaker 2:
[92:46] Yeah. I think it's just like the judgment. I think almost like the Meghan Trainor effect, like, you know, someone like big girl who does lose weight. I feel like people are almost meaner to big people who lose weight versus like skinny people who get even skinnier. You know what I mean? People are meaner to the fatties who become skinny.

Speaker 1:
[93:03] Well, Nikki Glaser says, cause it's like, they don't want people to be fat. Like it was such a gate keepy thing. It's like, oh, we're skinny and now everyone's skinny. And like, no, no, no, we need some fat people out there still. I mean, there's really none. Like Melissa McCarthy, like Rebel Wilson, like no one is fat anymore. It is so insane. And I know Caleb hates the comments too, cause he's like, I hate the Ozempic comments, stuff like that, but everyone is getting sick. I don't think it's bad. I think like it is healthier to not have weight on you. Your knees feel better. Your back feels better. I'm not like against it, but it is, it is a crazy thing that we are losing fat culture. Like, I don't know. I love it, but I'm, if I get skinny, like, you know, like I, no, I don't think I ever could be skinny. I think we talk about this where it's like there is like, you know, yeah, you want to feel a little better, but I just don't think I could ever be like skinny, skinny.

Speaker 2:
[93:53] Yeah, T.

Speaker 1:
[93:54] But I don't know if I really, really need to be. They look good, though. Kudos to you being skinny.

Speaker 2:
[94:00] Are you still eating the cloud popcorn or the cloud protein chips?

Speaker 1:
[94:04] Jimmy, we're talking about it. He just said there was a new flavor out. He texted me.

Speaker 2:
[94:08] Have you had the chips, too?

Speaker 1:
[94:09] No, I want to try it. I think he was telling me about those chips. He was telling me about some flavor or it was like birthday popcorn, like birthday flavor or something. He's like, it's so good.

Speaker 2:
[94:17] That sounds crazy, but love that for you guys.

Speaker 1:
[94:18] I know. I need to find the exact way. Give me my phone. I want to find the exact Jimmy quote. Because I love that he was texting me about cloud popcorn. Because I was like, I love it, too. I love it. And I wanted to get those protein chips. I think it was the day my sister was here. I was like, oh, let's try Kardashian projects. It was just me wanting to get the cloud. Why are you not? I love it. I'm so seeded for it.

Speaker 2:
[94:36] I'm seeded for Khloe's Cloud Billboard. That's kind of what got me gagging.

Speaker 1:
[94:40] The blackfishing. Can I say that or no? Yeah, that's so crazy. Yeah, that was, who was that?

Speaker 2:
[94:45] I know who was that? Who is on this billboard?

Speaker 1:
[94:48] Khloe Yancey.

Speaker 3:
[94:50] We have to look it up.

Speaker 1:
[94:51] You haven't seen it?

Speaker 2:
[94:52] I have it here if you can see from there. Can you see that from there?

Speaker 3:
[94:55] Oh, that's Rihanna or Beyonce.

Speaker 1:
[94:58] It does look like Beyonce.

Speaker 2:
[95:00] It does.

Speaker 1:
[95:01] Okay, real quick, Jimmy said on Tuesday, he said, closest to a real chip of all the protein ones, I can barely tell the difference and it's buffalo-flavored Khloe chips. He said, oh, gee, I said they have birthday cake ones too. He's like, I hope they make a salt and vinegar. That's my favorite chip flavor. We are seated for a cloud. It's so good. Anyways, all right, me and Jimmy like it. Everyone else is like, it tastes like dust.

Speaker 2:
[95:23] The popcorn, yeah, it did taste a little dusty to me, but you and Jimmy can very easily influence me though, I will say. My libubu psychosis was induced by Jimmy Wetzel for the record.

Speaker 1:
[95:35] He's very influential, yes.

Speaker 2:
[95:36] He's very influential because he's so enthusiastic about things.

Speaker 1:
[95:40] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[95:41] When he's just passionate, he's a passionate speaker. Yeah. When he talks about something he likes or is hyperfixated on, it sounds like the best thing in the entire world.

Speaker 1:
[95:50] Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 2:
[95:51] For him, it is. It's a genuine thing. So that's how it is.

Speaker 1:
[95:53] I watched Sonic the Hedgehog, a horrible movie, but I was influenced. And then he's like, no, it's so good. I can't wait for the new one. So I'm watching five Sonic the Hedgehog movies and I'm like, yeah, all right, maybe this one's good. Nope, they're all bad. But I watched all of them because of him. So yes, this Billboard. Did she comment? She was like...

Speaker 2:
[96:10] She did end up commenting on an Instagram of the Billboard because it was causing so much commotion and everyone was saying, baby, that's Kiki Palmer. Girl, that's Beyonce.

Speaker 1:
[96:22] The comments are crazy.

Speaker 2:
[96:23] Khloe jumped in there, she said, I'm crying. What is going on? And everyone's like, girl, you approved the photo. So why are you acting? Don't come in here acting confused. Like you don't know how he got so dark skinned on the Billboard.

Speaker 1:
[96:35] So tanned. You know, as a victim of like a too dark... I've been too dark a spray tan before too. Like it can be a problem, but it does look like they almost like darkened her more because it's seen her some spray tan and it was very dark. The dysmorphia with tanning is a crazy one. Like it is a weird thing that we can't tan and it's like socially acceptable. And everyone's like, yeah, let's tan ourselves to be darker. But I guess it's like she grew up bigger and like when you grow up bigger, like they tell you like tanned fat is better than like pale fat.

Speaker 2:
[97:02] Yes, I heard that a lot too.

Speaker 1:
[97:03] Yeah, like it makes you toned. It makes you look a little healthier. So maybe that's where she was like in that addiction. That's how I was too. Like even when I start getting pale, I'm like, oh my, you can see my cellulite, this. So I guess the tan is supposed to like cover it up, but it is sad.

Speaker 2:
[97:15] It's a little nutty. I mean, it's also not just her, like at the Vanity Fair Oscar Party that some white girls be coming through. And I was like, OK, what? We're giving like ethnically ambiguous all of a sudden. I know you're Caucasian as they come. So I'm like, what's going on? My favorite thing that people on Twitter do to like clock someone is they'll like they'll do like a screen recording of the computer screen in Photoshop and they'll have the photo of the celebrity and do like the paint dropper tool and then get like the hex code of their skin color and then put it to like an actual like either like a biracial person or a black person and compare skin tones and be like, how are you darker than Zendaya? You know what I mean? Like how are you darker than Manon? Like how are you like Lori Harvey? It's like kind of crazy.

Speaker 1:
[97:59] It is crazy. And it's just like the fact that they made her like, yeah, I don't know. Unless that's what she, she is, she can be tan sometime. I love how she just denies.

Speaker 2:
[98:08] Just laughing. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1:
[98:10] Okay, but she looks very different. She looks like, also like a different person, but I guess it's like Kardashian.

Speaker 2:
[98:15] You know she be facing, which I don't clock a Khloe tune. I kind of live for a Khloe tune.

Speaker 1:
[98:20] Oh my God, back in the, a couple of years ago, she used to have a tune so much. Remember when it was like her kids, it would just be like a different face.

Speaker 2:
[98:25] Oh my God, I forgot she could do the kids too.

Speaker 1:
[98:26] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[98:27] Like relight them and everything.

Speaker 1:
[98:28] Yeah, I'm like, do we, and Khloe's my fave, but that's, I don't want that.

Speaker 2:
[98:32] Yeah, they were doing the most. They were always doing the most.

Speaker 1:
[98:34] But I love those, I want to get those. I'm trying Buffalo. That sounds really good. Jaclyn Hill, she was showing her skinny, it's so funny. She was like, here's my skinny snack. And it was like a Buffalo protein chip. And then she made like a dill cottage cheese dip and she just took the big, and I don't like any of this, it all sounded nasty to me, but it looked good. And she was just like dipping it in the Sting shot. Oh, so good. And I was like, oh my God, it kind of does make me, Jaclyn Hill has never influenced me on anything, but it kind of influenced me on that. I was kind of like, that actually looks pretty good. I like her, she seems nice, but people, do we talk about it off camera, the champagne pop, or would you talk about it last time?

Speaker 2:
[99:06] Maybe in Patreon, we talked about the makeup, like what makeup I was buying from the influencers, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[99:12] And you were buying?

Speaker 2:
[99:13] Oh, I definitely bought the Becca.

Speaker 1:
[99:14] Oh, for your mom, you were saying you'd give the cosmetics?

Speaker 2:
[99:16] Highlighter and bronzer and concealer I would get for me, but eyeshadow, like lip stuff, I would get. I would buy it so I can feel like a part of the movement and then give it to my mom.

Speaker 1:
[99:26] You were influenced.

Speaker 2:
[99:27] Yeah, I did love for the Becca champagne pop. I still remember it fondly to this day.

Speaker 1:
[99:31] So great, people would go so gaggy over it. I do wonder how much money Jaclyn made with like Morphe and all them.

Speaker 2:
[99:37] Enough so she could kick it.

Speaker 1:
[99:39] Two houses, literally just like living your life, never working again.

Speaker 2:
[99:43] Making TikToks.

Speaker 1:
[99:46] Yeah, doesn't have to worry about YouTube or anything. So she hasn't been YouTubeing like a YouTuber until long, like full time, but it's Harry Gates, Harry Lipsticks, Kendall.

Speaker 2:
[99:55] Kind of, yeah, full time. She would occasionally release a product every now and then like a blanket, etc. But now she's kind of locked into whatever she's doing now. So mama kudos.

Speaker 1:
[100:03] I'm living in California in a big house too. I'm like, damn, they really.

Speaker 2:
[100:07] Some Mormon Wives news just broke about the spin-off and the cast is kind of gaggy. So I did want to address it because finally something comes out as we're filming. But the Mormon Wives, Orange County cast, Aspen Ovard, Bobby Althoff, Avery Woods, Salome Andrea, I don't know her, McCall DeProne, Chandler Higginson, Ashley Pease, and Madison Bon Tempo. So the names I immediately recognize obviously Aspen Ovard, Bobby Althoff, and I think I know Avery Woods. That sounds familiar.

Speaker 1:
[100:40] Avery Woods. Yes. She was a, she's a mommy vlogger. She was, used to do content with the Heming-Kaiser. Yeah. She moved, I guess, to LA.

Speaker 2:
[100:51] I don't know. Bobby Althoff was Mormon.

Speaker 1:
[100:54] I didn't know that either, but I guess that, maybe I did. That kind of makes sense. She's like, yes, I did. She was married really young. She had kids like when she was like 19 and she married, she talks about it. Like she was married at like 18 or something. That makes sense. Oh my gosh. What a cast. Is any of the Mormon wives in it? Like the original?

Speaker 2:
[101:12] They originally said Jen Affleck. The release? Gaggy. Okay, so they originally said Jen Affleck was going to be in it. But now they're saying, noting none of the current Mormon wives are listed as cast members.

Speaker 1:
[101:29] Oh, that's crazy. Was she getting a spinoff? Like her own?

Speaker 2:
[101:33] I think she was just supposed to be part of the cast in Orange County.

Speaker 1:
[101:38] Because there's so much speculation that her and...

Speaker 2:
[101:41] What's his name?

Speaker 1:
[101:41] Yeah, I literally don't know his name. The husband is...

Speaker 2:
[101:43] You know, we do love... Straight girls love to have a fruity boyfriend, but like some of them are like, Conner is Whitney's Conner.

Speaker 1:
[101:51] Yeah, Whitney's Conner.

Speaker 2:
[101:51] He's a good amount of fruity. And then you have the ones who are like homophobic, but also a little fruity like Zach.

Speaker 1:
[101:55] Because they're probably gay. It's always those closeted homosexuals that hate gays.

Speaker 2:
[102:00] A lot of them internalize homophobia.

Speaker 1:
[102:02] Always.

Speaker 2:
[102:02] Like, at least Conner's an ally. We love to see it.

Speaker 1:
[102:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[102:07] Zach's fruity, but also like hates gay people. So in my opinion.

Speaker 1:
[102:10] Yeah. It's the closeted ones. I know quite a few closeted gays, like for sure. And they're just like they're homophobic. They've been like homophobic to people I know. And I'm like, because they can't be themselves.

Speaker 2:
[102:19] But I loved Jen. It was a couple of weeks ago. But when she made her TikTok saying there's so much change going through her life and she just kept going, ah, there's so much change.

Speaker 1:
[102:30] With no ring she was showing too, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[102:32] There's so much change. Yeah, yeah. There's so much, my life is so chaotic right now.

Speaker 1:
[102:37] And everyone's like, girl, are you OK?

Speaker 2:
[102:40] My fingers feel so much lighter. She was really dropping hands.

Speaker 1:
[102:43] Yeah, I think they're probably, you think they are? I think they're just like, baiting for the show.

Speaker 2:
[102:47] I think maybe they are because they've had problems before. And also, I feel like what's the one thing, as we've seen with the other Mormon wives now, what's the one thing that can save them from bad press? Dumping the husband, honey. So, I think if she really did dump them, she'd be 120% more likeable, I feel.

Speaker 1:
[103:06] I hope. What if she sees everyone going down that route, like the Jessie, and everyone's like, oh my God, yes, yes, girl. And then her is like, oh, we still don't like you. It's giving David and Hugo Boss.

Speaker 2:
[103:15] I think she could win everyone back.

Speaker 1:
[103:16] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[103:17] Because even me, she's diabolical to me from last season of the show.

Speaker 1:
[103:21] Yeah, mean girl.

Speaker 2:
[103:21] But she's so pretty. And I think I could forget. She does seem like, and she has her funny moment when she's dancing on the table back in the day. Okay, that's cute. So I think if she brings it back to basics, I think she could win the girls over again.

Speaker 1:
[103:34] But okay, there's hope for her.

Speaker 2:
[103:36] It's gaggy. Yeah, that none of them, especially because so many of them were in California recently.

Speaker 1:
[103:40] So that's what I get. That's so weird.

Speaker 2:
[103:42] They're involved.

Speaker 1:
[103:44] Is there a trailer or a poster or nothing?

Speaker 2:
[103:45] It's just no, just the announcement of the cast.

Speaker 1:
[103:48] Bobby, all top joining is random because Aspen and Avery, they're influencers. Bobby, I don't consider her an influencer because she's pretty private. She just does her podcast of her life, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[103:58] Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:
[103:59] Because she didn't like when people comment, she did a whole video crying about how people are commenting about her boyfriend and calling her a slut.

Speaker 2:
[104:04] Kind of good, though, to like, I mean, again, it's almost like going, her audience is so male. I think last time we talked about her, like her audience is so male-centric that they're so freaking mean to her. So it is a smart marketing branding move to now claim a more female a girly gay audience that's actually going to like you and empathize and sympathize and feel for you. You know what I mean? So kind of smart for her to ditch the freaking that podcast fan base and get an audience that like is compassionate.

Speaker 1:
[104:34] That's true. That's true. Because I feel like when she divorced and started going out with like a new guys, they're like, wow, what a slut, like you're with all these, like whatever you like.

Speaker 2:
[104:42] And you're a mom.

Speaker 1:
[104:43] It was like very weird. I was like groomed. I was like 18, my husband was like 10 years older than me. And I was having babies right away. It was just like this whole thing. I kind of had more empathy for her when she told that story. So yeah, you're right. It's a good, it's a good move. I'm kind of seeded. I, Aspen's lesbian.

Speaker 2:
[104:58] I still haven't like kept up with it all, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[105:03] Love that. I do love, I do love this cast. I don't know Avery Woods that well.

Speaker 2:
[105:07] Identifies as bisexual. Love that.

Speaker 1:
[105:10] Okay. We love so many bi representation these days. I love it. And then yeah, Avery Woods, I just know very little about, I do know she's a mommy TikToker.

Speaker 2:
[105:19] I'm kind of excited for a blank slate, I will say.

Speaker 1:
[105:22] You don't watch?

Speaker 2:
[105:22] With a little less baggage. Oh, a hundred percent I'm gonna watch.

Speaker 1:
[105:25] Okay. I'm gonna maybe get into these shows. Maybe I don't watch female ensemble shows cause I'm misogynistic. I don't know. Why don't I watch them? I should maybe. That probably is like my demographic. I should be on Housewives. I feel, oh that maybe, no. There are no gay people on Real Housewives. They have real gays of Hollywood or something. Oh, Todrick did that.

Speaker 2:
[105:45] Yeah, real gays of WeHo.

Speaker 1:
[105:47] And then all the gays were like, we hate this.

Speaker 2:
[105:48] Do they have a gay? I know Kyle Richards entered her bisexual tea era on Beverly Hills. I don't know if they've had a straight up lesbian housewife. Maybe they have.

Speaker 1:
[106:03] But gay couple, because on Desperate Housewives, they brought a gay couple in.

Speaker 2:
[106:06] I mean, there are a lot of gays around, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:
[106:09] But not like a couple.

Speaker 2:
[106:10] I don't know if there's been a full on gay couple since, I mean, I haven't watched in a few years though. So I could be missing, but I don't think so. Some bisexuality though, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[106:20] Love that.

Speaker 2:
[106:22] You were kind of a mind reader, because randomly it came to me what my line would be, if I was a real housewife. They have the little tagline in the intro, and then they hold the diamonds.

Speaker 1:
[106:32] Oh yes, yes. What's yours?

Speaker 2:
[106:35] It's a little not PC.

Speaker 1:
[106:37] Okay. Are we just censor? I wear a Patreon. What are we doing?

Speaker 2:
[106:40] Because I was-

Speaker 3:
[106:40] We're dipping the episode.

Speaker 2:
[106:41] I'll say it and then I'll explain the lore. I was like- I also said it in my head, so the concept of me saying it out loud on a microphone is sending me, I have a loose lips but a tight hole, and then I turn around and then hold the diamond.

Speaker 1:
[106:57] That's not bad.

Speaker 2:
[106:58] Okay, work.

Speaker 1:
[106:59] You're like sensory-wise. That's good. Loose lips and a tight hole.

Speaker 2:
[107:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[107:03] Is it true?

Speaker 2:
[107:04] You know what I was thinking about?

Speaker 1:
[107:06] The loose lips, you don't answer the whole part.

Speaker 2:
[107:08] Both are true. Do we have loose lips?

Speaker 3:
[107:10] It could be more like gossipy, like-

Speaker 2:
[107:11] Yeah, it's tea. How it came to me was- I like it. I keep seeing the icons clip, me saying, I'm so relieved now that I know the cat's IT. I keep seeing that clipped everywhere. And I was like, damn, I really do be forgetting I'm on a microphone and people are going to perceive that. Icons, I'm sorry, I'm giving an apology two hours in. I said I was relieved to be in the know because it's been keeping me up at night. It's been plaguing me. Some girls have been reading into it because they know I love her and are like, he's relieved so this is good news that she's going to come back. I don't know if she's going to come back. I don't know the fate. Harry doesn't even know that to you.

Speaker 1:
[107:47] No, she's not coming back. What we know from Harry.

Speaker 2:
[107:51] No, Harry didn't know the-

Speaker 1:
[107:53] The way he framed it was like, shut is out.

Speaker 3:
[107:57] Vanished from the castle.

Speaker 2:
[108:00] But I was relieved to finally know because it literally, it's been plaguing me. I was like, what happened? I was losing sleep over it. It's all I think about. I just stare at photos and I'm like, I'm buying, they had a record store day, vinyl variant come out of the wig and I bought that. I just look at it. I was like, what happened to the six?

Speaker 1:
[108:18] Now you know.

Speaker 2:
[108:19] So at least gives me peace to know the lore.

Speaker 1:
[108:22] I know. They should tell everybody.

Speaker 2:
[108:25] But this is a damn statement before Harry Daniels does.

Speaker 1:
[108:28] Harry Daniels needs a spell like every detail.

Speaker 2:
[108:31] They're coming to me like, just tell us Oscar. No, go to Harry Daniels, chronically online podcast.

Speaker 1:
[108:36] I'm sure everyone has like, he told me in a corner at Justin Horowitz birthday party.

Speaker 3:
[108:42] You didn't tell me. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[108:44] You don't know the tea? I mean, honestly, I'm kind of confused because I don't really know everybody involved. I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's happening. But what he told me, I was like, okay, I kind of they were like walking in the hallway. I'm trying to keep up. I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's going on. But yeah, he told Hannah, I like Justin's party in the corner. And she's like, we've already talked two minutes. And he just told me the whole tea. I love that so much. And he's like, I didn't ask. I was like, okay. Love that. Yeah, there's tea being spilled.

Speaker 2:
[109:07] Uh-huh. Our gap hoodies. Mine come, my small. My small Manoah hoodie comes today. I'm scared to try it on.

Speaker 1:
[109:13] I ordered like 10, because I got one for Ari, her daughter. I got one for you. I have like so many, so hopefully they're coming in.

Speaker 2:
[109:18] I'm excited for the try on haul. I'm scared for me. I'm scared how small that small is.

Speaker 1:
[109:23] Well, I think I got you a large. Yeah, if you would like a large.

Speaker 2:
[109:26] It's truly a godsend.

Speaker 1:
[109:28] Did you get the Manal one too?

Speaker 2:
[109:29] I got Manal, but by the time I got there, only small and extra small, so I gambled. I was like, well, aspirational.

Speaker 1:
[109:35] Yeah, I didn't know which one you would like. I was like, I think it's the Manal one, but I'm like, is she in the group? Does she still want it if she's not? But then it's more of a collectible, I guess if she's not. I got all of them. I got all of them and more.

Speaker 3:
[109:43] Look on like Facebook, wherever you get furniture stuff, like find like a mannequin, you know, it could be a decorative thing in your house. Like an old fashioned mannequin and put it on it.

Speaker 1:
[109:55] No, no. I talk about the person who kidnapped me in his basement and he had those mannequins and that is so scary and creepy.

Speaker 2:
[110:03] It was giving that.

Speaker 3:
[110:04] You get to put it in a nice bright corner.

Speaker 2:
[110:06] No.

Speaker 1:
[110:08] If you have a mannequin in your house dressed up like run, run, no offense, but scares the shit out of me. I was like, that should have been... He even said to me, wasn't that a red flag? I was like, no, it should have been though, I guess. Like just a mannequin dressed up as Supergirl in the living room. I'm like, okay, that makes sense. The Beast games with influencers start this week filming. Do you know anything about that?

Speaker 2:
[110:28] What? Oh, this is what Tana was texting Mr. Beast about.

Speaker 1:
[110:32] Yes. Well, she's not involved anymore. I was like, thank God. Then she told me, I guess he sent her the list, but I won't say who, but the list is...

Speaker 2:
[110:40] Diabolical?

Speaker 1:
[110:41] Insane. I'm like, what is happening? I got asked for it as well and I had passed, but thank God I did. I don't know. Mr. Beast, he was in the news. Some hit piece on him or something. It was like being accused of something. You haven't seen that? It was like on Twitter. Let me look.

Speaker 2:
[111:00] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[111:01] You see it?

Speaker 2:
[111:01] Yeah. Over harassment claims. Who's harassing?

Speaker 1:
[111:05] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[111:05] Former employee Suze.

Speaker 1:
[111:07] Deny sexual harassment, retaliation claims by... Ex-social media staffer. So his response to women working while in labor. So she has a text. I'm going to see. I mean, why is it all about women and women's needs, like campons and-

Speaker 2:
[111:25] Oh yeah. That was the-

Speaker 1:
[111:26] You know, like labor. Filed on Wednesday in North Carolina. Fired after raising concerns and taking maternity leave. She was the first employee to ask for maternity leave benefits, and she feared she'd be retaliated against if she did not work during her time off under the family leave. She was on a work conference call while in the labor and delivery room. Newsweek had painted screenshots from the day that she gave birth between her and her colleague. A co-worker said they need to connect to discuss the ideas. She says she'll need to cancel and postpone because she's in labor. And then he's like, oh, but of course. Ha ha ha. Crazy.

Speaker 2:
[112:14] That is crazy. She was hired as Beast Industries Head of Instagram in June 2023.

Speaker 1:
[112:22] Sorry. No, it wasn't me. Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[112:26] So she started working there in 2022. In 2023, she got promoted to Head of Creative and her salary went from 100K to 120K. I didn't. Damn. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[112:37] What is that?

Speaker 2:
[112:38] I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[112:39] But is that a C-suite position?

Speaker 2:
[112:41] No, no, no. It's just you're in charge of the social media platforms, I'm assuming.

Speaker 1:
[112:47] Got it.

Speaker 2:
[112:48] Then she was promoted again in 2023 and her salary went up to 250,000.

Speaker 1:
[112:53] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[112:54] Then when she was fired, she had 20 employees and a monthly budget of around 500,000. Damn. She ran a big team.

Speaker 1:
[113:04] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[113:06] She was pretty high up there too.

Speaker 1:
[113:08] I mean, that's kind of crazy because it's not like she's just looking for a quick payout or something because obviously, it must have been a big enough thing.

Speaker 2:
[113:13] But I'm gagged. Okay. In all fairness, for my journalistic integrity here, Beast Industries has denied the allegations. Their statement is sending me and makes me want to literally jump off a building. This clout-chasing complaint is built on deliberate misreportation and categorically false statements and we have the receipts to prove it. This is the official statement from a huge multi-million dollar company. To a variety about a lawsuit, like a legal complaint, you're going to be using the James Charles drama get into jargon by a sister. What do you mean?

Speaker 1:
[113:48] That is a crazy, calling your clout-chasing is crazy for being like, yeah, I was in labor and they wanted me to work.

Speaker 2:
[113:55] We have the receipts to prove. I'm like, this whole company sounds diabolical. Honestly, I need to get on that jury. I need to get on that jury so bad.

Speaker 1:
[114:05] North Carolina, I don't think you're in the draw.

Speaker 2:
[114:07] Oh my God, I need to be on that damn jury.

Speaker 1:
[114:10] It sounds pretty credible. Yeah, she has a good position. Obviously, she wants to get hired again. You know, she's putting her reputation out there too by being the person that sues. It sounds like she probably has some case. What is the actual claim she's making?

Speaker 2:
[114:23] There's a few.

Speaker 1:
[114:23] Sexual harassment or?

Speaker 2:
[114:25] Yeah, so sexual harassment, gender bias and retaliation. The gender bias is what you were just talking about with allegedly being in labor and asking her to be on a meeting. And then the sexual harassment comes from the, allegedly comes from the company's former CEO, James Warren, who allegedly subjected her to meeting her, making her meet him in his home for one-on-one meetings while commenting on the way she looked in her clothes and dismissed her complaints about a male client's unwelcome advances towards her as nothing. So when she complained about getting hit on by another client that they were working with, she complained to the CEO, and the CEO allegedly told her that she should be honored that the client was hitting on her.

Speaker 1:
[115:09] Oh my god, that sounds like a man. I believe it.

Speaker 2:
[115:12] And she says that, or she claims, I should say, that Jimmy Donaldson Beast would not meet with her one-on-one because, quote, Jimmy gets really awkward around beautiful women. Let's just say that when you're around and he goes to the restroom, he's not actually using the restroom.

Speaker 1:
[115:32] Wait, who says this? Who's saying this?

Speaker 2:
[115:33] People allegedly told her, because she's like, why can't I, I'm like the head of the whole department, all of Creative, why can't I meet with Jimmy one-on-one? And allegedly, the CEO told her that he can't control himself, so he can't be one-on-one with you. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[115:49] They need some females, I think, in the C suites of MrBeast at Ink, you know what I mean? Like, this is also why I only work with females. I swear on everything. Every time I meet an all-female team, my publishers, my agents, anything, I'm just like, I'm signing with you because I do not want to ever deal with men ever. I believe all of this because I feel like every female knows this is exactly what everybody says. And they always say weird things and you're like, are you okay? Like, wild.

Speaker 2:
[116:14] That's crazy. The allegations are actually nuts. And girl, take it all the way. What's your name again? Lorraine. Lorraine, keep pushing forward, girl.

Speaker 1:
[116:27] Yeah, I appreciate that. I know, sometimes you're not even aware of what is harassment, sexual harassment. There was a project I was working on and there was this guy, whatever, that sent me my own nudes on this. It was a very professional setting. And then someone obviously saw it and complained because I was like, this is weird. And then they complained and then everyone's like, this is not okay. And you're just like, you don't even think about it as a woman because you're just like, I don't know. I guess those have been out there, whatever. It's fine that they were sent to me. And everyone's like, no, that's not okay. So I love that she's speaking up. I love that we talk about this because people need to know what's okay. Because also being told, oh, you should feel flattered when someone's like kidding on you. It's like so all of it's gross. Obviously, it's like people around Mr. Beast that's being accused of all this, but also he is like the CEO. Did he say anything? He hasn't made a statement. I guess he won't make a statement.

Speaker 2:
[117:09] Just the statement that I read.

Speaker 1:
[117:11] But that's not from him.

Speaker 2:
[117:12] Oh no, not him in particular. Everything's kind of come from the company itself. A statement for Beast Industries.

Speaker 1:
[117:20] Was that just today, right?

Speaker 2:
[117:21] I just saw that today. Yeah, literally came out today. I didn't even know about it until you brought it up. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[117:26] Yeah, I was like, and then I saw the people that was on his little Beast game things. I kind of want to like him because I do love a cultural phenomenon. I love people who's like big wigs on YouTube and stuff. But it's just like, how is he always in some crazy? There's, you know what I mean? There's always something wrong, and it's always female related. There's always some female centric thing happening.

Speaker 2:
[117:46] I'm connected to that. The thing I saw about Mr. Beast that was super inserious to me that I was like, Jimmy, you really just got to get it together, was I saw for the first time ever in one of his videos, he had to change the rules because the gag was locking these people in a grocery store for 67 days, and the winner who lasted the longest would win 250k. They all lasted the 67 days, and they wanted to split the prize, but he needed one winner. So instead, it was now to eat the entire grocery store for a chance. So now yeah, so you made it the 67 days, which was the original challenge. Now it's whoever eats the whole grocery store could win $1 million, and it could take up to one year. So it'd be a full year without seeing their families locked up in a grocery store.

Speaker 1:
[118:42] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[118:43] Is that crazy?

Speaker 1:
[118:45] And it's like, saw, is like, who's gonna eat their way out of this? Like, what do you mean? I'm gonna stay here until we all blow up, I guess. Cause like, what do you mean? That's so insane. Like, let me eat the way through my death. Like, stuffing yourself is insane. Like people die that way, having nothing to do with heaven. Like that's so insane. And so what, is it happening now?

Speaker 2:
[119:03] Yeah, that was, I guess, in one of the new videos, cause it just came out in all transparency. I didn't watch the full video, so I saw a clip, but I read, I both read an article and also saw a clip of it to prove the claim.

Speaker 1:
[119:16] How could I just split the money? PETA and Katniss did it at the end. Like, let them do it, okay? That's fine. Who is he? Oh my God, he's so scary. Oh my God, he is nuts. I know, I do wanna like him. I do love his like people.

Speaker 2:
[119:30] I know he's so popular, he literally clouds with everyone in the entire world and everyone loves him, but.

Speaker 1:
[119:35] Even when I got asked, I felt like honored for a minute, and I was getting the Pick Me vibes like, Oh my God, he knows who I am. Yeah, Mr. Beast wants me in there, and then when Tana was gonna do it, I was like, Oh my God, what if we did this together? And then I had to like check myself. I'm like, Who am I, girl? Also for no pay. You want me to leave for a week and not get paid? I was like, I don't know about that. Be interesting. It's allegedly OG YouTubers. Oh, oh my God. Is it Joy Graceffa? Blink if it's Joy Graceffa. Damn.

Speaker 2:
[120:06] It's diabolical straight men that are awful to women and yeah.

Speaker 1:
[120:10] Prank versus prank, but one of the pranks, the male prank.

Speaker 2:
[120:15] You're so close. Well, I'll tell you the names and just bleep all of them to me in my mouth too. No, I just seen. I'm like.

Speaker 1:
[120:23] Yeah, come on, Ingrid Nilsson. Come on, Ms. Glamorazi. I would be god with Ms. Glamorazi. He would kind of get me back with Ms. Glamorazi.

Speaker 2:
[120:31] Oh, he would never though, because he doesn't know, he's getting all these diabolical people. But I just got a brand deal for you, Oscar.

Speaker 1:
[120:39] What?

Speaker 2:
[120:40] I didn't actually, my agency hated.

Speaker 1:
[120:42] What?

Speaker 2:
[120:43] And she's like, just yeah, she's like, I have a little offer for, it's a commercial I'm doing. They want you to have a little cameo, and she got you a little range.

Speaker 1:
[120:50] That is crazy. That is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[120:52] We're just talking about that. That's so wild.

Speaker 1:
[120:53] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[120:53] I'm so excited to tell you after.

Speaker 1:
[120:55] Oh my God, that's major.

Speaker 2:
[120:57] It's going to be really fun. It's like a commercial next Tuesday.

Speaker 1:
[121:00] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[121:01] Yeah. And she's like, I got this. Does he have a rep? Like I got him a range.

Speaker 1:
[121:04] You have my rep.

Speaker 2:
[121:05] Yeah, I know. I was like, I think I could just text him, but I was like kind of gay. That's kind of like, oh my God, that's so exciting.

Speaker 1:
[121:10] Whoa, that's amazing.

Speaker 2:
[121:11] Yeah, you were just saying that too. You were like, oh, I just like could use a brand deal. Oh my God, that's fierce. That's wild.

Speaker 1:
[121:17] That's so cool. My cameo era. I kind of know.

Speaker 2:
[121:19] I know, I love that. I don't even know what the concept is, but I was like, oh, I love it so much. That's so fierce. It's going to be fun.

Speaker 1:
[121:24] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[121:25] Yeah, you have to be available next Tuesday. It's cute. It's just a couple of hours. Yeah, it's going to be, it's really, really fun. That's crazy. Oh, I'm so excited. I was like reading it.

Speaker 1:
[121:32] Gag.

Speaker 2:
[121:33] That's really cool.

Speaker 1:
[121:34] I'm so freaking gag. I have a couple of really quick ones.

Speaker 2:
[121:37] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[121:38] We'll do like rapid fire. Okay. We'll call it the celebrity relationship segment. There was speculation that Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are engaged because they stepped out together and they went to Nobu. They did a whole day in Malibu and Zoe Kravitz had a huge diamond on that finger. And it also didn't look sized yet. Like it looked like something fresh because it was kind of like, you know, when it-

Speaker 2:
[122:02] Wobbles.

Speaker 1:
[122:02] Yes. It's like wobbling.

Speaker 2:
[122:03] I don't know that, but I love when it happens.

Speaker 1:
[122:05] It's so, oh.

Speaker 2:
[122:07] So big. Just so big.

Speaker 1:
[122:11] On her petite little finger.

Speaker 2:
[122:12] It's like, we're going to size it down to a four actually. I do see that happen though when girls get engaged. Like, oh, we just got to size it down a little because the finger's so small.

Speaker 1:
[122:23] Yeah. And they were like kissing and stuff before. It kind of gagged me. I mean, I guess he is of that age. They were together, they were last spotted together, like I guess over the summer. So it has been a while, but it's...

Speaker 2:
[122:36] That's cute. I like it.

Speaker 1:
[122:38] I guess I like them together, but I'm like, damn, engaged already is kind of nuts.

Speaker 2:
[122:43] But they're like your age, right? I feel like...

Speaker 1:
[122:45] He's a little bit older. He's my age.

Speaker 2:
[122:47] Oh, and especially if the girl's older, I do feel like biologically, even if you're not going to have kids, you just feel like this is the time to be married in my thirties. Like, I don't know why that is the way it is, but I feel like that makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[122:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[122:57] Just kind of do it.

Speaker 1:
[122:58] For some reason, I thought they were bigger. People were making such a big deal about it that I thought it was a bigger age gap or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[123:03] But 37, yeah, that's like the age that you get married. We knew each other, what, nine months? Oh, no, we got engaged in like five months, actually. And then we got married in like a year and a half. We were also a quarantine couple. Well, they're quarantined. They're traveling all over the world. They're going to Italy. They're going everywhere. That makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[123:22] They probably have also busy schedules.

Speaker 2:
[123:24] I'm sure there's a lot of time that they're not together. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[123:29] And then the second relationship confirmation came from People Magazine reporting that Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi have been dating for months already. So everyone was kind of gagged to hear whispers about them making out at Coachella. But the gag is that they've allegedly been hanging out and getting to know each other the last couple of months. I didn't know about this, and it is Lesbian Visibility Week, but lesbians really are claiming Kendall Jenner and do not want to lessen their grips on her. They're still convinced that Kendall is lesbian. I know that she addressed it before, I think on Owen Thiele's podcast. She was like, what rumors about you do you hear that I'm lesbian? She loves lesbian, but she said she is not one, but the girls are still holding out hope, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[124:15] Yeah. It's very Joey, Shane, David. I'm not gay, I'm not gay. Then it's like coming out video, you know what I mean? I think it just happens on their terms. I think sometimes you don't even know you're a lesbian until you try it, you know what I mean? Until you've gone that route and they're like, oh, I actually am. Chapel had a boyfriend for high school. I think it's you know when you know.

Speaker 1:
[124:39] Now that I see photos with the lesbian lens of her style, and she does wear a lot of ankle cut jeans and the other flats, she loves like a little button up, weirdly, she do be dressing like Jacob Elordi. They have the same exact style. They could change, like they could wear each other's clothes.

Speaker 2:
[125:00] He does lesbian vibes.

Speaker 1:
[125:00] He kind of does, right?

Speaker 2:
[125:01] He does gotagabegs, and in a good way.

Speaker 1:
[125:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[125:04] Didn't see her at the Euphoria after party, so I can't confirm that they were dating.

Speaker 1:
[125:08] Oh, that is some good insider tea.

Speaker 2:
[125:11] I saw no females at his booth, and we were by his booth. It's not only males, actually.

Speaker 1:
[125:16] Well, we do love our men a little fruity, I suppose.

Speaker 2:
[125:18] We love them very fruity, fresh and tutti.

Speaker 1:
[125:22] That was my relationship segment.

Speaker 2:
[125:24] A fact.

Speaker 1:
[125:25] Oh, yeah. Okay. Really quick one too. This influencer, Just Jazzy IDK, on Instagram. People have been coming for her because she did a sponsored post for her wedding. Now, she was sponsored by Capital One, and she was really getting dragged for having her big life event sponsored. But the gag is, it's a year later, she's using her wedding photos as a proof of concept, and she already posted about her wedding. She's just now reposting them as a sponsored post. I don't know why everyone's so upset.

Speaker 2:
[125:59] How is she rebranding it?

Speaker 1:
[126:01] She posted her wedding photos just yesterday, and she said, Hashtag Capital One partner getting married is overwhelming enough before the big day, and there's so much to do. It is so important to talk about your finances. So she's promoting Capital One with the lens of newlyweds. And out of context, people were like, oh, her whole wedding is sponsored by Capital One, kind of tacky. I was like, girl, you might just be at the Capital One table at the Oscar and Daring Wedding.

Speaker 2:
[126:29] I was gonna say, get married. Then show that proof of concept.

Speaker 1:
[126:32] I would take it just about anything.

Speaker 2:
[126:34] Well, you gotta bring any of that out, so. You gotta get that ball rolling.

Speaker 1:
[126:38] If it was Charmin, if it was just about anything.

Speaker 2:
[126:40] I love Charmin, that's my dream. That is my dream brand.

Speaker 1:
[126:43] Sorry, y'all, I take the Starbucks, too. You can crucify me after, but if it's the wedding, that's expensive.

Speaker 2:
[126:49] $200,000, I'm gonna take it. Yeah, that's, it's so funny. I thought, yeah, any more, you should only have a wedding if you're trying to get sponsored, because otherwise it's just a waste of money. I really thought we were, let's get some sponsorships, got nothing. And then we just ended up having all this money. And I could have just eloped, honestly. But you thought for the content, or I thought for the content, not you. I thought for the content and we flopped, we flopped on it. But hey, good for her, honestly. Capital One, if you want to sponsor our wedding photos, I'll bring those back up. I'll get remarried. I'll do whatever.

Speaker 1:
[127:24] And speaking of boys being a little fruity, there is a new side character in the clavicular cinematic universe that I don't know much about. And I've just seen this one clip and I kind of live. There's two clips of this boy, Dylan Latham. And the first one I saw, he was like, my hack, his looks maxing hack was to cry, make himself cry, and then use his tears in his hair to give the texture and the volume.

Speaker 2:
[127:49] I did see this. I did see this.

Speaker 1:
[127:52] You kind of ate with that, actually. That's kind of tea.

Speaker 2:
[127:55] You think that's real? You think he actually did it? I guess it's salty.

Speaker 1:
[127:59] It basically is just like the spray. I guess it is kind of like straight ish, right? I'm not going to go buy the salt spray in the girl section of CVS, like that's a little gay, but I'll cry and put salt water in my hair.

Speaker 2:
[128:12] I'm a gayer.

Speaker 1:
[128:13] Honestly, that's why I would think so.

Speaker 2:
[128:14] What do you mean you're crying?

Speaker 1:
[128:16] I don't know how do they cry, like an onion or what? I just saw the clip of him crying.

Speaker 2:
[128:22] He was sad.

Speaker 1:
[128:23] Yeah. That's actually a good question. That's why you need to learn more about the side character because I don't like clavicular. I know a little bit more of the lore, so I know he's more dastardly. This one, he also looks really young, so I give him a little bit more leeway, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[128:36] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[128:36] Then this second clip I saw of him was someone asked him, how do you feel about being labeled gay or being called gay?

Speaker 2:
[128:45] Clavicular?

Speaker 1:
[128:46] This, the friend.

Speaker 2:
[128:47] The new one.

Speaker 1:
[128:47] Yeah. This new side character. I love this random new side character. I know you do, I've never seen. Here comes this one.

Speaker 2:
[128:54] Why do you like him so much?

Speaker 1:
[128:55] Just because I thought the crying was camp, and this little clip, he was doing an interview and he got asked by a guy. I'm assuming the context was like a little jab, like how do you feel about people calling you gay, to get him to be homophobic, but he said that he finds it a big compliment. He says, when the average person says you look gay, they're saying you look better than average. The gay daddy market is a lot more competitive, so I literally take it as a compliment.

Speaker 2:
[129:19] Period.

Speaker 1:
[129:19] I love this little side character.

Speaker 2:
[129:20] Yeah, I was gonna say, for what we know on this context, the very thing. With that information, we love.

Speaker 1:
[129:25] We'll change opinion accordingly with new information is presented, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[129:29] I mean, that's how I was feeling with Klaviky and then I seen with like Andrew Tate and I was like, okay, I'm gonna pay a woman to raise my baby till they're 18. I'm gonna give her half a million dollars. You said that? Klaviky said that.

Speaker 1:
[129:37] Oh, no.

Speaker 2:
[129:37] He's like, I'm gonna pay someone half a million dollars to raise my baby till they're 18.

Speaker 1:
[129:41] That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[129:41] I was like, what is happening? I don't want to get too involved in that world, but damn, I was kind of like on his side with the Harry Daniels of it all. I was like, okay, I love it. Because when we were asking Harry Daniels, we were like, oh my God, how did you get in the Will Vicki Clavicular thing? He's like, actually, Will Vicki came into me and Clavicular's thing. I was like, okay, so there's a whole lore there. I don't really get it.

Speaker 1:
[129:58] And my last little note is I did apply to be in a Hasan video, and I don't think I got a call back. And now I think I just have to accept the fact that he never wants me.

Speaker 2:
[130:10] Music video? You are in your cameo era.

Speaker 1:
[130:12] I know.

Speaker 2:
[130:14] You saw a casting on Elle Casting.

Speaker 1:
[130:15] I did see a little casting form. Yeah. And like at this point, I didn't get a call or email back at this point. And I'm like, damn, I just have to accept it, I guess. Maybe I won't. I think I'll probably still put up a little bit more of a fight. But like, I know every single one of his friends, like I know and speak to on multiple occasions. Well, text them.

Speaker 2:
[130:36] If someone wanted to get me a video and they texted you, I'd be like, yeah, of course, like bring them in.

Speaker 1:
[130:40] They probably didn't want you to overshadow, you know, they want to just...

Speaker 2:
[130:44] They want to be the only gays.

Speaker 1:
[130:46] They don't want somebody to overshadow them.

Speaker 2:
[130:47] Maybe. You are a stark body.

Speaker 1:
[130:49] I feel like I've dropped hints in like the least subtle way. Like I told Austin, Austin, I love Hasan so much. I told Christian, Christian, I love Hasan so much. I posted Hasan to Entertainment Tonight's TikTok and the Vanity Fair after party. I tagged Christian and Austin and I told them, I was like, I feel like this is sending a message in a bottle. Like tell him, I love him. Cutie knows I love Hasan. Caroline Kwan knows I love Hasan. Will Neff knows I love Hasan. Frogan knows I love Hasan. I'm like, okay, at this point, do I just accept? He also was like not even gagged when like Trixie and Katya talk about him. Like he reacted to Trixie and Katya talked about him and just like looked like he had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 2:
[131:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[131:23] So I don't know if he's, I think the only way I could gag him is if I ran for office. So maybe that's not his stuff.

Speaker 2:
[131:28] Oh, is he into that?

Speaker 1:
[131:29] He loves that. He loves the political.

Speaker 2:
[131:31] Maybe you don't want to get in the world of politics if he's a political.

Speaker 1:
[131:35] Ladies for a man, get into politics.

Speaker 2:
[131:37] I was like, the layer I know of Hasan is a lot of people hate him. And I know a lot of people like him, but I would fear everyone loves you, so maybe don't go where someone is polarized.

Speaker 1:
[131:48] Caleb and Trixie and Katya can handle him then. I feel like that's it. And James Monsoon.

Speaker 2:
[131:52] Thick thighs. And Jimmy, those are his.

Speaker 1:
[131:54] And Laverne Cox. Yeah, I do love a Jimmy.

Speaker 2:
[131:56] Jimmy puts him in doggy for a half a second.

Speaker 1:
[131:59] I'm like, what the hell? The cake be caking.

Speaker 2:
[132:00] What was that? What was that? I always do that when I see it. I'm like, I think it's for your own good. I would be like, let me pull some strings and not that I know them, but I think for your own good. I think it's, they're all protecting you. You don't want to be in the world all of a sudden some people hate you. You're on such a good path. You don't want to catch any strays with the people who hate Hasan and your association. Because even QT, I feel, catches some strays for-

Speaker 1:
[132:29] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[132:31] What was it, a music video or what was it?

Speaker 1:
[132:33] Advice.

Speaker 2:
[132:34] Advice. What were you gonna do, ask my question?

Speaker 1:
[132:37] I did write quite a tale, my application form.

Speaker 2:
[132:40] Were you on video or did you do an email?

Speaker 1:
[132:41] I had to write, but I'm better with words like when I'm writing. I was very much giving Lady Whistledown quill, dipped in ink, writing it down. I was like, I have been trying to get the attention of DL Trade for about a year now. I have messaged him many a times. I have left this DL Trade comments on many an Instagram post. I am acquaintances with many of his friends. I really like so much. This is like deathly serious. You should have showed us before you said that.

Speaker 2:
[133:14] Running by us to squeeze.

Speaker 1:
[133:19] I would be like, too much, too much.

Speaker 2:
[133:23] We need somebody more subtle. Who is the DL Trade? You're in a relationship.

Speaker 1:
[133:27] Hasan Piker is the DL Trade in question.

Speaker 2:
[133:29] He's a DL Trade?

Speaker 1:
[133:30] No, I just thought he would think it was funny if I said-

Speaker 2:
[133:33] I don't think he doesn't get it.

Speaker 1:
[133:34] Maybe you're right.

Speaker 2:
[133:35] I think he's going to be scared. This is why you're not being introduced. He might be like, actually, I support all your endeavors. This is what I may say, not because of anything against him, although you may be right, but anything against him, although you know we had that private jet instance where we did not talk to each other. I would venture-

Speaker 1:
[133:53] They say if you love something, let it go and if it comes back, it was meant to be.

Speaker 2:
[133:58] Well, I don't know if it was ever yours to begin with.

Speaker 1:
[134:01] Okay, gag me with that. You did gag me with that.

Speaker 2:
[134:03] Just honesty.

Speaker 1:
[134:04] That is honesty.

Speaker 2:
[134:06] I like it. I'm here for it. I think if it's meant to be, it'll be. I do think rejection is your protection in this case.

Speaker 1:
[134:12] Period.

Speaker 2:
[134:13] I do see on diabolical Twitter, people love to come for him.

Speaker 1:
[134:16] So literally, no playing basketball with Ted Nivison and Hasan Piker.

Speaker 2:
[134:21] Well, that could happen. Maybe on the DL that. Maybe you don't have to know. Just get a little basketball. I like your quest for this. I don't know if I'm too supportive, but I'm half there. We're there. It's meant to be.

Speaker 1:
[134:33] Yeah, it's here.

Speaker 2:
[134:34] Maybe just stick with me.

Speaker 1:
[134:36] Now that I got a commercial.

Speaker 2:
[134:38] Yeah, I'm really excited for you. I can't wait to tell you. I need to tell you off. I was like, Oh my God. I loved it too. I loved it that there was like an offer. She can see a hand of those are just yet people. And I was like, Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[134:48] Yeah. Yeah. This was me pre commercial. Now he can offer.

Speaker 2:
[134:50] Yeah, we got to keep it brand friendly, brand safe. You know, that's our era.

Speaker 1:
[134:57] But I love that you tried to hold brand friendly.

Speaker 2:
[134:59] Well, period. Censor. Love all of it. Maybe that's the campaign. Maybe that's what they want to do for him. Well, we're all in that era and we love you guys so much. What a fun day this was. I love a Thursday.

Speaker 1:
[135:14] Thank god for those peppuccinos.

Speaker 2:
[135:15] The peppuccinos really held me over. It was really good. It was fun to be out of the house too. I love to get out of the house and just, I did feel sad. That is Malibu's favorite restaurant. I did feel, we'll go there tomorrow with her, but I can't fully eat, you know how I love to eat dirty with my line judgment. And I can't really eat like that in front of Malibu. That's a bad example to set for your kids. Like just devouring food. So when I'm with her, I like to eat cutesy. Anyways, or normal, not even cutesy, just like the normal person. That's it. I love it. You wanna plug anything over there?

Speaker 1:
[135:49] I just hope you had a good happy Earth Day.

Speaker 2:
[135:52] Yeah, I saw that. Conejo Valley's having some Earth Day activities for kids this weekend. Let's go check it out and do something. Go plant a tree. Recycle.

Speaker 1:
[135:59] Reduce and reuse.

Speaker 2:
[136:01] Love. No AI fruits. All of the above. All of the above. We love you guys. This was a key. This was fun. Check out patreonpdra.com/justtrish. Bonus episodes and bonus videos every single week. We never miss. Love you guys. Bye.