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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Here's their poster boy in Maine. The headline, Maine Democrat Graham Platner, who we've talked about before, he's called Jesus a zombie and the Virgin Mary a skank. This is from, he's the Nazi tattoo guy, by the way. All bestsellers.

Speaker 2:
[00:17] Yeah, they were all bestsellers.

Speaker 1:
[00:19] So I think you've been good to them boys.

Speaker 2:
[00:22] I've tried to be.

Speaker 1:
[00:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[00:24] I've always tried the golden rule, Jack. Do unto others as others but do unto you. Or my mother's rule. Be careful, Victor, if you have any success, be careful as you ascend to be nice to people because as sure as the sun rises, you will descend in a cycle.

Speaker 1:
[00:41] I don't know if you've ever given us an opinion about John Brennan.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] But please do. I mean, there's so much culpability. We got to remember that this is a man that went before Congress under oath as head of the CIA. And had the CIA under his direction spying on US. And he said, no, we wouldn't do that. That was a complete abject lie and he had to apologize. But that was under oath. He should have been charged immediately with perjury.

Speaker 1:
[01:17] Well, hello, ladies and hello, gentlemen, and welcome to Victor Davis Hanson In His Own Words on The Daily Signal Network. Victor is not the only one around here that gets to wear a daily signal hat, Victor. You're showing me up all the time, and I felt the obligation.

Speaker 2:
[01:34] We're going to have to ask our sponsors for more of them, because I only have one, and I keep misplacing them.

Speaker 1:
[01:39] I'm sure Rob can-

Speaker 2:
[01:41] Rob can do that for me, Rob, if you're listening.

Speaker 1:
[01:44] Yeah. Well, we are talking on Monday, April 20th, 2026, and this episode will be up on Thursday, April 23rd. If you're a new listener or watcher, viewer, Victor is the Martin and Elie Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College, and a Senior Contributor at The Daily Signal, and four times-

Speaker 2:
[02:11] And, I'm going to add, I just had a meeting with Basic Books, and the author of the forthcoming, The Counter Revolution, The Fall and Rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA Movement, which starts with January 6th, and when Trump hit rock bottom, and it goes over his dismal prospects, and then it talks about his miraculously successful war against the lawfare that was waged against him, Mar-a-Lago, get him off the ballot, and second impeachment, and then it goes to the campaign, a little lot on Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, and then it finishes the third part with the first year of his administration. Yeah, that came up today on It's in Galley. It's all done. And the question some of them said is, everything is so volatile, you could say something right now. I mean, if I said the left is attacking Trump as Hitlerian on Monday, on Tuesday, they were saying he was Chamberlain Taco chickened out by having negotiation. So it's all volatile, but I don't know how that's going to happen. My friend, longtime friend, Glenn Hartley of 35 years, who represents me, always has done a wonderful job, a wonderful person, he wants me to update it. And I think the basic team feels that it's in Galley's now, it's really good, it covers the whole. And if you keep updating it, it would be endless, you know. So I don't know what will happen, but I'm willing to do whatever they want. They've been very nice to me, the basic books, Laura Heimert, the editor-in-chief who is now retiring. She's edited, this will be the fifth book, and I think it's 10 years.

Speaker 1:
[04:06] All bestsellers.

Speaker 2:
[04:08] Yeah, they were all bestsellers.

Speaker 1:
[04:09] So I think you've been good to them more so than I've been good to you.

Speaker 2:
[04:13] I've tried to be.

Speaker 1:
[04:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:14] I've always tried the golden rule, Jack. Do unto others as others have been doing to you.

Speaker 1:
[04:19] Well, you do do that.

Speaker 2:
[04:22] Or my mother's rule. Be careful, Victor, if you have any success, be careful as you ascend to be nice to people because as sure as the sun rises, you will descend in a cycle.

Speaker 1:
[04:36] Well, you told me, and I don't know if this is fair to reveal, but when you had one of your traumatic surgeries, specifically in Libya, you got a sense that I did that was reinforced, that I did a Pakistani nurse who was interpreting for the Egyptian surgeon.

Speaker 2:
[04:58] And he was all by himself. There were no nurse attendants. She was just there watching the ether cable and making sure the Iranian didn't the Iranian tech didn't smoke.

Speaker 1:
[05:08] Just step on it.

Speaker 2:
[05:09] And I woke up three times during the ruptured appendix surgery. But she said, if you pray right now, you look at the minarets and pray. And I said, it came out of my mouth. I mean, I just, I'm not an overtly demonstrably, you know, pious person. But I said, nothing will happen to someone who's been good. And I trust my soul into the hands of Jesus Christ. And I'm, I'm ready for anything. And she said, yes, he was a prophet. I wanted to argue with her and say, well, yeah, you say he was a prophet, but then your apocalyptic religion at the end of the world, he's not there. But I thought this wouldn't be wise.

Speaker 1:
[05:50] Yes. Somebody had a scalpel in there.

Speaker 2:
[05:53] Somebody had a scalpel and I had a gangrene colon and a vascular appendix in Libya.

Speaker 1:
[05:58] Well, maybe the, maybe the surgeon was Coptic. You never know, Victor.

Speaker 2:
[06:02] But I woke up, it was completely dark. They didn't, I didn't know where I was. And all of a sudden, I thought, oh my gosh, I'm in Dante's Inferno. I'm sorry for my sins. And then they turned on the light.

Speaker 1:
[06:13] Let that be light. Well, my friend has a, the aforementioned and talking here, Victor Davis Hanson also has a website, The Blade of Perseus. If you go there, you'll find the book Victor's talking about, Counter Revolution. It's on the homepage. Click on it and you can order it now. Pre-publication and it comes out sometime in August, I think, September?

Speaker 2:
[06:37] September 8th, 2026. I plan to be healthy, cured and ready to answer questions about it. Even from the anti-Trump people.

Speaker 1:
[06:50] Yeah. We'll have David French on the show.

Speaker 2:
[06:55] Send what copy to the Bullwork. I'm sure they will be interested.

Speaker 1:
[06:59] Oh yeah. Book burning. Well, we've recorded an episode yesterday for Tuesday. Yesterday was Sunday when we're talking. Today we're talking on Monday. Of course, there's just a ton of stuff happening, including on Iran. But maybe it's best to wait for further commentary on that when Victor and the great Sammy Wink talk next. But we've got a bunch of stories here from hopefully Victor will dispense his wisdom. Mark Kelly, senator from Arizona, is leading an effort to kill this really important tax credit that is going to come into effect in 2027. We'll get Victor's take on that. We have analyses of the 2020 census as a disaster. Trump on Cuba, the John Brennan prosecution, non-prosecution. What the heck's going on with that? These missing scientists also, that's really Trump.

Speaker 2:
[07:58] John Brennan should remember the commandment, thou shall not lie, especially under oath and before Senate.

Speaker 1:
[08:06] He's a commie. I went to Fordham for one year, Victor, and he went to Fordham, I went to Fordham.

Speaker 2:
[08:13] Can I ask you an embarrassing question? Why is it that all these disreputable people all end up being trained at Fordham?

Speaker 1:
[08:20] Yeah, or Holy Cross, or Regis High School. Well, anyway, let's get to all these topics, Victor, when we come back from these important messages.

Speaker 3:
[08:32] Hey, I'm Bradley Devlin, and just like you, I'm a huge fan of Victor Davis Hanson. Whether it's his long-form podcast, Victor Davis Hanson In His Own Words, or his short-form content for The Daily Signal, Victor Davis Hanson In A Few Words, I always leave an episode learning something new.

Speaker 2:
[08:47] I think they forgot the 1982 Falklands War.

Speaker 3:
[08:49] And in the age of clickbait and rage bait, that's a really good feeling, right?

Speaker 1:
[08:54] The media, thank you.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[09:42] And we are back with Victor Davis Hanson In His Own Words, Victor's website. I didn't mention this, the Blade of Perseus go-to. I did say that, but you should subscribe. It's $65 a year, $6.50 a month. victorhansson.com is the address. Victor, before we get to Mark Kelly, I did want to mention this news, there's too many names here, but these, Michigan had a Democrat convention yesterday, Sunday. And then Amir McLeod, who was a lawyer guy from Dearborn, Nehezbollah, Prazer. He defeated, for the Democrats have the right to appoint a regent to the University of Michigan Board. And the incumbent was Jordan Acker, who's, I'm assuming, Jewish, because his house and his car were vandalized with anti-Semitic graffiti. But the Democrats of Michigan nominated this radical guy to sit on the board of the University of Michigan. So this is this party that was the party of Dan Rostenkowski and Tip O'Neill and even Bill Clinton. This is dead and over.

Speaker 2:
[11:00] Yeah, I think they're captive of a very small but apparently very influential group of people who are Islamic and they vote on a straight ticket apparently. Because I say that because Sayeed, the candidate in the same state for the Senate, he had a hot mic on where he said that he had to be careful about expressing any opinion about the death of Khamenei, this cruel, horrible dictator in Iran who had butchered 40,000 of his own people because it might not go well with his constituency, meaning they were pro-Hezbollah. We had that person that rammed, tried to ram the synagogue and he was an active, his family were active, Hezbollah terrorists. I don't know what's happened to the Democratic Party, but one of the worst things that historically that happens to a party or group or a nation when they spiral down into suicidal hatred, tribalism is anti-Semitism is one of the first. It's like a sore throat when you know you're getting very ill. When you see it everywhere and I see it everywhere and it has so many manifestations. Tucker's case, it's just the sheer volume. If he were to do one show every five or every 10 on BB or one and every eight on Israel and B, then you could argue that he's just critical of Israel and the support that it garners. But it's about 70 percent of his shows and they're all negative. He had never done that before. When you see these random attacks on Jews and you have nothing happening, you get the impression that either the majority of the Democratic Party agree, or they're afraid to express opposition or objection because they're going to be themselves targeted. They wanted to cut off aid. Most of the Democrats, with a few exceptions, wanted to cut off aid to Israel, right when it's in its existential war with Iran. I think that Europe is pro-Hezbollah. It's pretty clear they are. France was until they lost a French soldier, and now all of a sudden, they're worried. But if this doesn't stop, this momentum, and I never thought I would say that about the United States, you're going to see Jews that are targeted, just everyday Jews, and it's going to be like at the elite level, it will be like Gentleman's Agreement, you know, the Gregory Peck movie about that you politely don't hire Jews or you don't recruit them. We don't have your reservation at the restaurant. And given Jewish meritocracy that dominated the Ivy League, 30 or 40 percent in some years after the anti-Semitic restrictions were removed, when we went to the SAT, Merocratic Equality of Opportunity admissions, it's down to about, I think the Jewish numbers are way, way down by almost, they've decreased by two-thirds. And so I just don't, I see the, I don't see a new young generation of Jews emerging from this country without having to be targeted by mostly people who are Islamic, but, and the people who aid and abet them. And it's going to be, I predict and unless somebody comes out and stops it, it's going to get worse and worse and worse. And each, all we can do is people, is each person according to your station is to demand that you treat people as, as an individual and not a collective. And you, you don't pander and you don't criticize, but you, when you hear people attacking Jews, speak up against it. If you don't, then you're part of the problem.

Speaker 1:
[15:06] There's a great piece on that. If I just may make a note Victor to our viewers and listeners who are very intelligent people. There's a great magazine called, online magazine called Tablet Magazine.

Speaker 2:
[15:21] It is. It's excellent. I saw that article. Are you referring to the woman who was a PhD?

Speaker 1:
[15:27] I am. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:28] She's a veteran.

Speaker 1:
[15:29] Yes. Megan Mobs.

Speaker 2:
[15:32] What to die for.

Speaker 1:
[15:33] The things worth dying for. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:35] That was a wonderful article. It was so rare to see somebody that was so brave and so persuasive. Right.

Speaker 1:
[15:44] She's also a Catholic. It was an interesting thing about this journal. I'm going to say eclectic, but it's that they allow these other voices to write for them.

Speaker 2:
[15:55] Yeah. I think I told you once I was at my graduation, and there was a person at this, I had won this award and the awardees were at the table with the provost. This woman was attacked in the United States in World War II. She kept going, going, going and saying we were war criminals. My father and my mom watched him drink one glass, two glasses, three glasses and then I said to my mom, a mom, I think the fuse is lit and then he got up and said I didn't, I didn't fly 40 missions over Tokyo and my first cousin didn't get killed in Okinawa for me to sit and hear this. Now you're going to hear something and then he let loose. So I feel that way about all the people who fought. That's what her point was in the article. They didn't fight and die and risk everything that, so the University of Michigan could select somebody whose principle qualification was that he hated Jews and he was pro-ISIS and Hezbollah and the whole bunch and was not shy about it. And so why I always think that given our ethos that a person who comes from a different country, if he qualifies for citizenship, he or she, and he's a citizen, then they have as much right as somebody that I've been here, on my mother's side from the 18, I don't know, 20s. My father's from 1870, 80. But my point is, they are just as much American. That being said, if you do come over here, and then when you arrive and you go full Ilion Omar and you call it a trashy country and a dictatorship, then that allows people who have been living here to say to them, we didn't die on Iwo Jima, we didn't die at Belleau Wood, we didn't die at Gettysburg for you to come over here and tell us that we're no good. We're not going to take it. I'm sorry. We need that attitude a lot more. The immigrant has really changed. When we had Max Nikias, he's the ideal immigrant. He loves the country, contributed so much to it. And yet, that profile that he and millions had once represented is under attack now. I think it's because of the indoctrination in the university and the DEI component that if you're a DEI qualifier, you feel that you're exempt from criticism and you have a right or duty to trash your host country as white, racist, heterosex, a whole bit. And I think it will continue to people say, you know what, you're absurd, we're not going to listen to you anymore. If everybody would say that, no matter what your particular background is, I think it would stop very quickly.

Speaker 1:
[18:50] Someone was mentioning at the Philadelphia Society meeting which I was at in Tampa this past weekend about Peter Schramm, who I think you must have known.

Speaker 2:
[18:58] I met, yeah, I knew him a lot. I spoke in Ohio. I said, Ohio, where was that?

Speaker 1:
[19:04] He was at the Ashbrook Center. Yeah, he ran that. Peter was born in Hungary and his family escaped during the 56 Revolution. But he asked his father why here? Essentially, the father said, we were always Americans, we just weren't born there. I do think there are a lot of people that think like that and feel like that. But there are many, many more, like Ilyan Omar and others who are still Somalians and still Pakistanis and Afghanis and whatever the heck, and do not like this place yet. They're a big wealth recipient.

Speaker 2:
[19:37] I'm really upset though because I was looking at some of the- Steve Hilton now claims by the way that the fraud in California has gone up to 400 billion. I mean, that would almost cut 25 percent of the deficit. When you look at that and you look at the names that are coming in, a lot of them are naturalized citizens. Are there here a green card? I don't know. But the reason I mentioned that is the immigrant has a special onus on him that his host was generous and allowed him to come in, just like a guest into somebody's home. You have to behave extraordinarily well. So when these people say, well, he only had a DEI, you shouldn't have any crime. You should be exemplary because this country bent over backwards to allow you to be a guest. Then when you come in here as a Somali community did in many cases and you defrauded the country, then you should be deported. Get a fair trial, adjudicate the evidence and get out because you have abused the hospitality and you rewarded our magnanimity with contempt. And so I'm getting really sick of all of this and immigrants. Immigration has been the backbone of the country, but there was a demonstration that said, immigrants built the country. Well, they did in the sense that we only had a small population and we were immigrating here from 1820, 1810 even before, but that's not what the sign meant. It meant that only people who were illegal had built the country. And that's not true. It's not true.

Speaker 1:
[21:23] Well, let's take a look, Victor, get your take on two Democrats. Mentioned Mark Kelly, and then I also want to go to Maine. So Mark Kelly, the Senator, Democrat Senator from Arizona, he is leading a group of 31 Democrats to try to repeal the section of the big beautiful bill that created a $1,700 tax credit. Doesn't kick in until next year that you and I and everyone here who pays their taxes, instead of paying that money to the federal government, can send that to what's called an SGO, Scholarship Granting Organization. And the way that works is your state, your governor in your state has to check the box. And about 30 governors have, a lot have. In my state, Connecticut, Ned Lamont has yet to say, yeah, we'll let that apply. I'm going to send my $1,700 bucks somewhere. It should be sent. And what's the point of this is to supplement scholarships for private schools, charter schools, even some public schools. But Mark Kelly, the sainted Mark Kelly, really likes to portray himself as kind of a martyr. Yeah, he's leading this effort to undo this. I don't think it's going to prevail, but a sign of the Democrat Party's beholdenness to the teachers unions. Any thoughts about him?

Speaker 2:
[22:45] Yeah, I do. He is kind of iconic of what's happened to the Democratic Party because he was in a conservative state that traditionally had two Republican senators, and at least for a long time. He ran as a decorated Navy pilot that had served in the first Gulf War, and then he was an astronaut. When he came on, he was well below the radar, nobody married to Gabby Geffords who was tragically shot. That was another story blaming Sarah Palin because she had an ad with a cross hairs which was nothing compared to what Biden said when he said take them out. But nonetheless, now he has a new stature as a hard leftist. So he knows that the data is there. We have a task force at the Hoover Institution that has looked at vouchers and charter schools, and the evidence is overwhelming. They serve, they're so much more effective in teaching children, but more importantly, they have a deterrent effect on the public schools. When you have a successful charter school, then the public schools feel that they have to reform, in other words, to not drain or bleed students. And yet, when you see these types of legislation, it doesn't take a brain to know who's behind it. It's these state and national teachers unions who don't want any examination that all the rest of us have. All the rest of us have. Anybody who's in the real world other than the academic world and the teacher can be fired at any moment. They're either based on their ratings or their performance. But the teachers, once you give a person a lifetime tenure, it's very hard to remove them. And the result is complacency and we spend far too much money for the results that we get. California spends, I think it's number 10th in the country on expenditures per student and we're 45th in test scores. So then that and then he also, you remember Jack, he made that embarrassing video as a veteran. And he was subject to the Article 82 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, where he ordered, not ordered, but he suggested to uniform military personnel that they should, if they felt that the Trump was going to issue an order that was, in their opinion, unconstitutional, then they should resist. Well, you can see how that would work. Obama says, we're going to bomb Libya. And then a pilot in the air over Libya says, well, this is week seven, Mr. President. I was thinking, you never got the War Powers Act after 90 days. Or a guy's at a consult doing 500 Predator drone missions. And he says, you know, did you have a warrant for that last mission when we killed American citizen? So you can see what would happen. It would be, and those are accurate with cause, but you can see everybody would think that way. And yet he was promoting that. And as a lot of people pointed out, Mark, and then when he said he reappeared again, when Trump said, well, I'm going to take out the bridges and the power plants and he said this was basically a war crime. And then people pointed out that he had as a naval pilot, his squadron was tasked with taking out civilian infrastructure in Gulf War I. So should we go back and say you are a war criminal? He's not a war criminal. He obeyed orders and the orders were logical to get this maniac out of Kuwait and stop the slaughter of the Kurds, etc. So I think he's like Chuck Schumer and all the rest of them. They are an aging group of Democrats that once were partly sane and they're not anymore. They are terrified of the Mondawmi wing, the two new governors in Virginia and New Jersey, the Seattle nutty mayor, and they see this. Karen Bass type people and they feel that this is the new Democratic Party and when they get all together, they think they're a majority. But I want to assure them that they're not a majority. They may win some midterm seats because of anger at a current president which is historically common. But the idea that the American people are going to vote for that agenda, I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[27:21] Here's their poster boy in Maine, the headline, Maine Democrat Graham Platner, who we've talked about before. He's called Jesus' zombie and the Virgin Mary a skank. This was from-

Speaker 2:
[27:35] Mary's a skank, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:36] Yeah. He's the Nazi tattoo guy, by the way. He described himself as crudely atheist and that he derided Jesus as a zombie, Mary's a skank. This was an uncovered Reddit post. Platner responded to a 2008 lawsuit that claimed, a soldier was denied a promotion for not embracing fundamentalist Christianity. Platner asked, what units is this blank in? And stated that while, I've spent eight years in the infantry, I've been about as crudely atheist as one can be for the entire time. Platner cited zombie Jesus jokes and Mary sucking it, covering up being a skank as example of what he found humorous during his years in the military. And this is the guy who's leading, he's leading the incumbent Democrat in the race for the Democrats.

Speaker 2:
[28:31] Not only leading the incumbent, he's leading in general election polls should he be nominated, Susan Collins. So he came to prominence with his Totenkopf deathhead tattoo, which people have argued was either the third Waffen SS division or it was the Ice Hanson group that were in charge of the death camps. Either way, it's pretty horrific. So then there was all this pressure and he said he was drunk. He didn't know what it was. So then he removed it. He must have had remorse at removing it because then he changed his narrative. Remember he said, well, so he must have thought I looked weak. So I'm going to have a new narrative and my new narrative was, well, I did it because I had been indoctrinated by the military toxic hyper-masculinity, i.e. Nazi and that inflamed my mind. So I went and he didn't realize what he was saying. He was basically saying to the people of Maine, okay, I thought it would be cool to have a Totenkopf, Death had Nazi symbol on me and people at the time said that he knew what he was doing. So I decided to run for office. So I lied and said I didn't know what was doing and I've changed it. So there, it's over. Then he thought, you know what? Everybody's talking about Trump as a Nazi and Pete Hex says, so I can get some mileage if I change my narrative. So I'm going to change my narrative now and say, well, it was because I really thought I was a Nazi at the time basically, and therefore I wanted a Nazi symbol. What he doesn't realize is that nobody wants somebody as a US. Senator who at any time in his life thought it was cool to be a Nazi brainwashed or not. But he's basically admitted that that's what the state of his mind was and nobody likes somebody who lies to the people of Maine as he did. Because he just absolutely flipped his story.

Speaker 1:
[30:36] Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2:
[30:38] And he's leading. And I think the Republicans and Trump and everybody have to get together and they're going to have to have a summit and they're going to say, we have six months left. I think they will wrap up the war within two weeks or three weeks, but we'll see. And they're going to have to say, we have no margin of error. No margin of error. We've got to raise raise money. We've got to hit them on the issues. We've got to get out the vote. If it's still possible, if they're going to block, you know, ID and early mailing, and then we're going to have to outdo them. We're going to have to get every single person out because this is existential. And I think Trump is going to have to be very careful on his true social posts because the Catholic vote came out. I think it was 53 percent. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jack. Yeah. It was almost historic and it really in some states made the difference. And what you do not want to do is get into a verbal quarrel with the Pope. That is not wise or astute as you're given your success, especially with Hispanic Catholics. So they're going to have, they have no margin of error, but they can win. They can, they can stop this if they, if they get serious. Because I think the economy of almost every indication now is the stock market is going to go down, but it went up. Oil is going to go to 150, but it went down. Unemployment is terrible, but it's not that bad. Inflation is hyper, but it didn't get into hyper. So you can see that once the war is over, there's going to be an exuberance and the price of oil is going to crash and the stock market will stay go very even stronger. It's the highest it's ever been. What I'm getting at is all the things are in place for a good economic recovery in the summer if we can just talk about it, and more importantly, inform the public about it. Then we have the boot on the neck of Iran and we don't have to do anything other than play, I can't hear you. You want negotiations? I didn't quite hear you. Then just say, you know what? You're losing $430 million a day. We're incurring more damage on you than we did militarily. You're not going to be around much longer, but you know what? That's your choice. We're not going to attack you, we're just going to blockade you. If you want to send your every ship that tries to intercede, we're going to destroy. If you try to hit Saudis for each one, we're going to hit you twice, but we're not going to start the war again. We're just going to say, you do, it's your choice. At some point, very quickly, they're going to be losing, oh my gosh, they're going to be losing, a billion, what, three billion a week? They don't have a very big GDP now at all. We're in a very good position, they just have to communicate that. We don't communicate that, we get all these different tangents. But all the president has to say is, phase one was to get rid of their ability to make war, done. Phase two was to be magnanimous and show them that we did not want to go to phase three, economic strangulation, we had negotiations. But they negotiated in bad faith as they have for 47 years. So now we're in phase three. Phase three is, you are going to have no national income. We're going to persist until you decide that you want to renounce your war making intentions, abilities, and every aspect from conventional to nuclear. And we're not going to start a war with you, a new bombing, but I guarantee you, we can say that if you start to hit other people, or you're going to get a retaliatory strike five, six times in greater intensity for each one you do. So don't do it because you're broke. And I think you'll start to see the people rise up. I really do.

Speaker 1:
[34:46] Yeah. Well, Victor, now I have to let our listeners know about something. Okay. You have a drink while I do that.

Speaker 2:
[34:54] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[38:11] Well, I mean, there's so much culpability. We got to remember that this is a man that went before Congress under oath as head of the CIA and had the CIA under his direction spying on US senators. You should look at the tapes of Diane Feinstein of all people who was furious about it. He said, is the CIA spying tapping into our staffers' computers? He said, no, we wouldn't do that. That was a complete abject lie and he had to apologize, but that was under oath. He should have been charged immediately with perjury. He came in another time and to a federal investigators that were in this testimony, and he said, are there collateral damage on CIA targeted drone assassinations on the Afghan border? He said, no, there were lots of them. He knowingly lied. He was in the Oval Office when Barack Obama said, we have to pursue, after the election, the lame duck Obama, we have to pursue this Russian collusion, and he and Clapper and Homey gave the impression to Obama that their subordinates couldn't find that. And he said, go back and find it. So they fabricated it. Fourth, he was very, when Anthony Blinken was working as a henchman for the 2020 campaign, and they were very worried that Trump was catching up, and they were going, it was on the eve of the second debate, and they had a disaster on their hands. The Hunter laptop was under the FBI control, but people had known what was in it, and they had exposed it. The FBI had run forensics on it, and knew, knew that it was genuine, and they kept quiet under Christopher Redd. They did not tell anybody that this was a genuine, and they watched as Anthony Blinken, working for the Biden campaign, called up the ex-in-term director of the CIA, Mike Morell, as I recall this, I'm doing it by memory. And he said, we've got to round up some experts. And they said, well, we can't get CIA people now. We'll get retired. So get Brennan, get old Brennan and Clapper. And they got Leon Panetta, of course, who always appears in these situations. And they lied to the American people that this had all the hallmarks of Russian. They meant disinformation, that they took the dis out of an information campaign. So when they got caught, they can say, well, we didn't say it was Russian disinformation. We considered it Russian information, which is crazy. But that, according to one, albeit conservative poll, that affected the way people voted. Because when Trump went in and he raised that, what did Joe Biden do? Just as the script provided. Fifty-one former CIA experts, Mr. Trump, that say you're lying, that this was all cooked up by your friends in Russia. It was all cooked up by Hunter Biden. It was true. That affected an election. So he has a lot of culpability. His whole attitude is to go on CNN or MS now, and take the offensive, and call Trump a liar, a collusion, all that. But he has so much culpability. The fact that you have a grand jury in Florida might mean that you're not going to have a legal circus, as we saw with Latita James and the E. Jean Carroll case, and Alvin Bragg in left wing New York. So I don't know the particulars why Thune is holding that up, but it's something he has a destiny. He has a rendezvous with an accountability, clapper to. Comey, I think it was handled poorly, but the director of the FBI can't go before the House Oversight Committee and under oath say 245 times, I don't remember. If I don't pay two supplements for the IRS, and the IRS investor comes to my house and say, Mr. Hanson, why didn't you? I don't remember. I don't recall. That's something that wasn't in my purview. I had no responsibility for that. I'm going to go to jail for that.

Speaker 1:
[42:39] Yeah. Put your hands behind your back.

Speaker 2:
[42:41] Yeah. They've all been treated with kid gloves, and they think now they've run out the statute of limitation. I don't know, but they should really pursue this, because what he did really affected the country and an election.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] Well, Victor, we're going to take a little break. When we come back from that, we're going to get your views on Trump's utterances about Cuba. We have something about Nike, and if we have time, these missing slash dead scientists. That and more when we come back from these important messages.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[45:20] What was the outrage about?

Speaker 1:
[45:22] Well, because if Nike's saying, walkers, runners welcome, walkers tolerated. So, oh, does that mean you're making fun of people who can't run?

Speaker 2:
[45:34] Well, I mean, it was a marathon. I guess what they're saying is that there's able-bodied gawker. That's what I thought it meant. Gawkers, you know, that want to just say, I was in the marathon and I want to walk it and they clog up the lanes.

Speaker 1:
[45:44] No, I think they immediately took to saying by, there are people in marathons who, for all I know, people do it on crutches and, you know, I know.

Speaker 2:
[45:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:56] So, they pace shamed them. Anyway, I just think the knee jerk to become victims, maybe it couldn't happen to a nicer company than Nike, which has been so-

Speaker 2:
[46:10] Well, I can say to you that I'm offended by your attitude as a cancer survivor.

Speaker 1:
[46:15] I'm sorry about that, Victor. Did you do your paces today, Victor? I don't want to pace shame you.

Speaker 2:
[46:21] Somebody in the hospital told me that and they said, well, you can say no, I bet you're a cancer survivor. I said, for how long? So anyway.

Speaker 1:
[46:29] Well, you are. All right. Well, to me, it was an interesting cultural matter. Donald Trump vows a new dawn for Cuba. So he was in Phoenix last week talking to Victor. He says, here's what the president said, we're going to help them out with Cuba. He told the crowd, we have a lot of great Cuban-Americans, not too many in this audience. I don't think, but you can go to Miami. We have people, Cuban-Americans, people who were brutally treated, whose families were killed and brutalized, and now watch what happens. Cuba is next, by the way. But pretend I didn't say that, please. I love when Trump does that stuff. Anyway, do you think by the end of the year, Cuba is going to be a la Venezuela?

Speaker 2:
[47:12] I don't know. There's a disturbing column in the Wall Street Journal, which I take with a grain of salt given that it's not the old Wall Street Journal that I remember, but that the post-Maduro apparatus is starting to backslide, and they still have political prisoners, and they think that Trump might be preoccupied. The good news is that the oil now is transparent. It's not going at discounts to China or free to Cuba, and they're making a lot of money, and the people are better off. But right now, before the midterms, I would cool the rhetoric and work more behind the scenes, because he's right. If you were to get a change of government in Iran, followed by a change of government in Cuba, there would be, even though foreign policy doesn't take a major role in a midterm, it would. It would be sort of like the fall of the Warsaw Pact, and the fall of the Berlin Wall. And because it's so close to us, the key here, the key warning is, you don't want to threaten military force openly and publicly. You just want to say to them, there are forces in motion, and we are going to accelerate them by a blockade or a cutoff of oil, because we are on the side of the long-suffering Cuban people. And we call on them to take their government back in their own hands, and we call on the ossified Castroite government to understand that your days are over with. It doesn't work. Communism does not work. And we're offering you a way out, and we'll have a reconciliation we urge. There won't be reprisals for all the thousands that they've killed. And just then, if they open the door for one month, the Cuban government, some member and said they're going to be, this is a free market and we welcome Cuban Americans to come back, that would be the end of it because they would come back with billions, billions of dollars. They're very entrepreneurial gifted people. And they were the middle and upper classes that left. They have all that expertise and they would go back and make that state, that country, boom, it would be the jewel of the Caribbean in, I don't know, 10 years. And they know that. So they're in a very weird position because the poorer than poorer and poorer, they get both people in government and the people themselves say, 90 miles away, there's a cure, there's a booster shot and all we have to do is let these people come in and make us rich. And we can cut deals where we're still in power before we get overthrown. But the longer we stay and the more unpopular, the odds increase that we're going to be in a Nuremberg trial and broke because they're going to come sooner or later. And that's the message they have to send. But Trump should not say, I took over Venezuela, I took over Iran, now I've took him over. Because that's not what the mega base necessarily wants to hear. It is what he needs to say is, I stopped seven wars like he did say the other day. I went in and Kosovo and Serbia, India and Pakistan and go through all of them. And then say, and I've added to that collection, I've stopped the violence in Venezuela and we've, we basically have helped the people. We've stopped the killing in Iran and we're helping the people. And now we're going to try to help the people in Cuba. And that's all he needs to say. But don't do it in a, in a, you know, a braggadocious, I'm going to be taking out the Cubans, just like I took out them, you know what I mean? Or bomb, bomb, none of that. It doesn't go well with his base. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:19] Maybe at our age, we all have a particular animus to Cuba and its proximity, et cetera. But also for me, their role in the Hanoi Hilton, is torturing Americans on behalf of the Vietnamese government. They were leaders there. That's, that's, that's-

Speaker 2:
[51:37] Absolutely. Everywhere in the 60s and 70s, whether it was Vietnam or Angola or Granada, whenever there was a role for torture and killing, they called in the Cuban. Maduro called them in, Chavez called them in to Venezuela. And they need to be held to account. They're really bad people, but they're a vast minority of the Cuban people. But they need to be held accountable. And it's a chain reaction. That's what's weird about human nature. If Trump can hold out and not do an Obama deal or an Obama 2, and give them 10 years to not enrich, just say, you know what, we feel for the Iranian people, but we're going to keep blockading to you until you meet these demands. And when you do, all good things will happen. But if you don't, you're going to go broke. And if you think you're going to revive your military card, it's not going to go well for you. And that will have a force-multiplying effect on Cuba, like Venezuela did on Iran. And that will help him at the end.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] Victor, we're going to, well, you know, let me ask you one other topic, and then I got to talk about a sponsor. But this is a growing story. It used to be six, then seven, eight, now we're at 11. Eleven high-level scientists in America, they're dead or they've disappeared. And it seemed like a conspiracy theory at first, or just a coincidence. But when you get to certain numbers, what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 2:
[53:15] I didn't know. Some of them had warned that they were in danger. Some of them go back many years. I don't think you can adjudicate it until somebody can say, they can take all the people that are included in the pool of people that were killed, 11 or 12, and say these are the fields that brought them into danger. And then give us a figure, a denominator of how many people were in that field. In other words, is it UFOs, is it NASA type projects, is it military, ballistics, whatever counts as a qualifier of these deaths. And then see how many people, were there 100,000 of them or 50,000? And then see what the annual death rate is in that pool. Is it 12, 15, 20? I mean the death rate by suicide or violence or missing. And if it's aberrant, it shouldn't be very hard to find out if it's aberrant. But when somebody says, this person killed themselves three years ago or this person got lost, I don't know how often that occurs. And I don't know if all of them in that pool had exactly the same type of research interest. Because if you just say it's outer space or military related or UFO, that could be 100,000 people working on that. So, and if it is, it does seem that someone might, if you find out that that is a aberrant statistic, that many people in this particular field dying mysteriously or through violence, then find out what exactly they were working on and what its import was to national defense. And then you would think that there would be three, four likely suspects, Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.

Speaker 1:
[55:16] I'll throw Cuba in just to help.

Speaker 2:
[55:18] Well, Cuba, but Cuba has been, it has the will, but it doesn't have the wherewithal of the other four.

Speaker 1:
[55:27] I still don't know what the hell they were doing with the- Our diplomat, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:33] That was real. I mean, they had terrible damage. I think that was a Russian-Cuban project. I really do. And they were trying to do that. But that happened under Obama at first. And they should have taken reprisals right away.

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Speaker 2:
[58:58] It comes on top of all these other stories. If you'd mentioned, people after January 6th were mentioning this, and they were being tarred and feathered just to mention it, because the Democrats had mastered the narrative. Remember, there were those tens of thousands of mail-in ballots, I think, in Georgia that weren't properly signed, and then they said, well, this was pro forma, it happens all the time. But the general rule is, if you have two parties and one party wants no ID to be presented whatsoever, anybody can just vote, and one party wants early voting as long as possible, and one party wants not absentee ballots but mail-in ballots. One party has engineered this new process to such a degree that the final tally will not come out in California for weeks. When that tally comes out, usually the Democratic candidate wins, at least here. Then you just should expect that result. What is the intent behind all of that? The intent behind all of that is A, we don't have confidence that the trans agenda, open borders, mass amnesty, radical green New Deal will appeal to 51%. So we have to bring in people who will not be audited or we have to use machinations to get more people to vote than actually exist, people in quotation marks. It's kind of what James Carville said the other day. He said Spanberger was kind of a model that she ran like a moderate and then she turned out to be a good radical. He's very schizophrenic. He complains about the Democratic Party, that it's too radical, but he doesn't mean that he disagrees with the radicalism. He just means that they're too overtly like Mondami radical. But if they would just shut up about it and delude the electorate as Biden did in 2020 when he ran as good old Joe Biden from Scranton and then let the Obama puppeteers run the country into the ground, that's his model. And so he said to a private group, albeit that got out, that we should pack the court. That's 167 years at nine justices. We should let in New Jersey and Washington, DC as states. That's 67 years, 50 states. And we should eliminate the filibuster. That's, depending on how you adjudicate, that's 220 years. And destroy all those traditions because it'll be useful for us when we're in power. And of course you think, well, why are you saying that now? Because the Republicans control the Senate, they could destroy this filibuster. If you're going to do it anyway, they might as well get some enjoyment. And then you think, well, Republicans play by the rules and that tradition and they're not going to do it. That's what he's thinking. And he's right about that. But again, it's re-engineer the system because the system does not give you the intended result. The balloting system does not. They're almost got this awful national voter compact, you know, where the state legislatures in blue states are voting, that they, when their electors shall represent the national vote and not the state vote, basically overturn the constitution without an amendment. I think it's absolutely unconstitutional, but they're getting up to the crucial majority that if they all, I think there are only 70 electoral votes away, maybe 50, that you could see blue states picking their electors on the national vote, and those states that did so would be the majority of the electors and they could fill an election. Again, it all shows a lack of confidence in the message. You have to do all of these shady things and untoward things because you don't have confidence of the American people. If they had full knowledge of who you are and what you were doing, they would support you, and they know that. That's why they always cheat.

Speaker 1:
[63:23] Yes. Well, when if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat is a comment by somebody I know. Not you. Victor, one last quick thing I want to recommend since I've been recommending certain articles to get today. Again, the last one was by Benjamin Osborne in Chronicles. Matt Labb, who's at the CollegeFix, and he's been an editor there, not the editor, Jen Kabani is, but our friend John Miller is the founder of the CollegeFix. But he has a piece on the Truman Scholarships, and this is a federal scholarship. They have these boards. We're used to it. We're not going to win the Academy Awards. We're not going to the Tonys. We're not going to get MacArthur grants, etc. But these scholarships should be a little more 50-50. Well, Mac's story is Democrats dominate their scholarship 17 regional review panels. Long story, there are 60 Democrats on these panels and only 10 Republicans. The vast majority over the years of these scholarships have gone to discernible Democrats, very few to discernible Republicans. This is the kind of thing John Thune and others should put their foot down and the administration also have more say so.

Speaker 2:
[64:43] Been going on for a half century. This is what, when all these people shriek and cry about DI, affirmative back, people have gone on it for 50 years. I can remember 1980, I was at the American Philological Association. There was about 150 applicants for 17 jobs and the best one I thought was the US. Naval Academy and I was about the only person who applied that was a military historian, one other person. And I had a wonderful interview and this very kind person said, would you come over to me? I want to talk to you. And he said, you're not going to get this job. You did the best interview, but you're not going to get this job. We can't afford to hire a white male. That same year, I had applied to go, two years earlier, I had applied to go to the American School of Classical Studies for Fulbright. And I had a project which became a book, Warfare and Agriculture in Classical Greece. And I outlined it. That was my Fulbright proposal. And it had every little catch in it. You know, you're going to be out in the countryside. You'll meet the people of Greece, ethnographic, historical, linguistic, philological. And I was leaving and I got into the elevator and a person was in there and he said, I left early because you're not going to get this Fulbright. You're just not going to get it. And it's not right for me to tell you, but we're not going to give it to white male. And that there was a whole generation of white males. And people will say, well, yeah, you're crying because you guys had privilege. No, they didn't have privilege. They didn't. And they were completely eliminated from all of these government fellowships, positions, universities, everything. And it was very unfair. And when Trump did that and eliminated DEI along with help with the Supreme Court, don't think it's going to end. They were very insidious. And the final wrinkle to all this, Jack, is that you would think that so-called liberal white women and liberal men would not want to be discriminating against their own children. But the people who enact these policies find ways to navigate around it. Their attitude is, this is going to affect some stupid idiot in Fresno or Bakersfield. But my kids, I know the dean, I know the fellowship officer, I know a guy in the White House. So they all feel that they can finagle around it. And they do. If you look at the progeny of Senator Barbara Boxer or Diane, you know, any of these Bay Area politicians, they always have privilege, always. They get around it. And it's really disturbing what they've done to the country because then they make fun of these people. The white male is a dance, a clinger, a deplorable. But part of the anger of the white male is that for over a half century, if they applied on an even playing field, white males who may or may not have had privilege in the past and white women said that they were privileged when they had no privilege. And they used them as sort of a shield to protect their own position from the DI. Frankenstein monsters they created. And so I saw that at one of the things I pledge to do, if I ever got a tenure track job, and I did finally at Cal State Fresno, I said every single qualified white male who's turned down, I will try to help. And I helped two people, and one in philosophy, one in foreign languages, one in history to get a job. And I complained and complained that these people were very, very good and they were and they all ended up very good. But it was so the biggest problem with these white males from the 60s that were hired sight on scene when the universities were expanding ABDs without theses. And they were worried about their position and they wanted to ingratiate themselves with women and minorities. And they were mediocre and they used a new generation of white males as their sacrificial land. Final thing, Jack, did you see that poll about, I'm trying to remember who did it, about marriage and political outlook? They polled how many men have children or married and how that are Republican, Democratic men, Democratic women, and Democratic men. It was very interesting. The men were about half were married over the age of 18, Democrat and Republican. There wasn't a wide difference. Where the difference was, was women. It was just astounding that 63 percent of women who identified as Democrats were unmarried and Republican women were way up there in the 58 percent. I mean, it was just like an outlier. When I saw that, I thought, wow, I'm looking at the people on the barricades in Minnesota, or Minneapolis, or Los Angeles. It's nine to five and what are they doing? They're out there and they're very unhappy people. We know that people who are not married, I'm not saying that everybody should get married or stay married. There's reasons not to, but we know that they're less happy. And I think a lot of it, what I'm getting at is I think the Democratic parties moved to the left, that we need to have new exegesis for why they are so crazy. And I think a lot of it is having to do that they're inordinately represented at these left-wing universities that get brainwashed. They've been sold a bill of goods that you shouldn't have children, as AOC said, because the planet's too hot. That your whole fulfillment in life, there is no transcendence, there is no hereafter, there's nothing. Is your career and your status and your appetite's being gratified and you have to be powerful and you have to adopt the customs and attitudes of competitive men. And you define your own sexuality in the way that, you know, da-da-da-da-da. And it doesn't make them happy, but their own prescription for happiness is a prescription for unhappiness. Right.

Speaker 1:
[71:20] And by the way, you can have children, but as long as you're not married. So, I mean, it's the absence of a nuclear family that's-

Speaker 2:
[71:28] I don't know what's going to happen if some people, finally, these truths are going to be so self-evident that there's going to be a collective shrug and people are going to really address it. Right now, there are particular groups that are trying to enlighten the public. Another problem is nobody since Daniel Patrick Moynihan, as you said, has addressed the fact that inner city African-Americans, demographically, in terms of number of arrests, hate crimes, interracial disparities between crimes are way overrepresented. Everybody knows it, nobody will talk about it, nobody wants to deal with it. The extent we deal with it is, it's all a result of victimization. But nobody wants to talk about education, two-parent families, the problem with inner city schools, the lack of police enforcement. But that issue is so egregious now that I think people are going to really say, you know what, call me all the names you want. But when you have foreign countries that list particular areas in the United States as no-go zones, even that, did you see the Chinese have identified particular airports and places they don't want their citizens to come through? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[72:47] Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[72:48] They're too dangerous.

Speaker 1:
[72:50] Yeah. Well, we talked the other day, there's a slice, a segment of black women in America who are unmarried and with children and they seem crazed, just crazed. I don't know if it's drugs, maybe drugs part of it, maybe it's just growing up abandoned by men or dad wasn't there. Who knows?

Speaker 2:
[73:12] I think I told you when I was a professor, there was two very bright African-American, they were a married couple and they had three children that were all convicted of murder and gangs and they were in prison. She was HIV positive and I think he was. These were the early years of AIDS and they needed a independent, they needed a class, a history class that was no longer or, and they came to me and said, would you teach a graduate independent study, which is very hard to do, a graduate course independent study. I talked to the chairman, he said, nobody wants to talk to these people, they're crazy. But I did. Even though I didn't know much about AIDS and she said, you can't catch AIDS and I didn't care really because so they came to my office for 15 weeks, for two hours a week and I tutored them on Persian War, Peloponnesian War, Thucydides and everything and they did fine. Finally, they left and became very, they became truck driving team, a truck driver team. But anyway, she would talk about this topic about black women. She had been a civil rights leader at Sac State and she and her husband had drugs and it all went downhill and I said, and she was, I said, why are you so angry? And she said, well, I'm not angry like a lot of people because of dependency on the government or I'm unmarried, I'm married. But she said, I hadn't thought of this. But she, and she gave a long excursus on it. She said, when black men are very successful and well compensated, they marry white women. And that is a form of racism because then they assume that black men that are not successful or have criminal records. And I think at one point, black males between the ages of 18 and 60, what 40 percent had been arrested one time. So she was saying, and then they expect those people to marry black women, and that's an insult to black women. I had never thought about that. Serious, I had heard that, but never seriously, and she was very angry. And then she went, it was right during the OJ trial, that's how it came up. That OJ was wealthy and handsome and young, and so he didn't want his first wife around anymore. He married this exotic white woman. It was basically telling me, to be frank with you, I don't want to say it was a great story, it's why she deserved to be murdered.

Speaker 1:
[75:47] Well, I mean, that's I think a lot of the animus towards Clarence Thomas was-

Speaker 2:
[75:51] Same thing. Yeah, same thing.

Speaker 1:
[75:54] Yeah. Well, Victor, I have a few comments to read as we're here towards the end of this episode. So we have Karonian Canuck, excuse me, 482. I can listen to BDH for hours and still want more. Thank you, Mr. Hanson. Come to Vancouver, Canada one day. I don't know if you want to go up there.

Speaker 2:
[76:18] I've been to Vancouver. It's a very beautiful place. Oh, sure.

Speaker 1:
[76:20] Yeah. But who knows? You may have said something.

Speaker 2:
[76:23] Canadians, conservative Canadians are like conservative Frenchmen. They're very rare, but when you see one to survive, they have to be especially capable and they're unafraid and courageous. So every time I see a conservative, well, Australians more so now because they seem to be getting more liberal, but Australian conservatives, Canadian conservatives, French conservatives, some of the best conservatives in the world.

Speaker 1:
[76:48] Central Valley conservatives also.

Speaker 2:
[76:50] Well, there's a lot of us here. There's a lot of us here.

Speaker 1:
[76:54] Sheryl Wood, 2690 writes, awake at 5 a.m. to enjoy VDH's empirical logic. Live, VDH, live, continuing to pray. That was an order, Victor.

Speaker 2:
[77:06] It's up to me. I will live. I have, believe me, to my last breath, I will say I want to live.

Speaker 1:
[77:16] Yeah. I'm very happy.

Speaker 2:
[77:17] Life's been very kind to me.

Speaker 1:
[77:19] Well, man, you've got battle scars. Peter Wollack, 585 says, I can't believe what a brilliant man, Professor Victor Davis Hanson is. Thank you for your sanity and your gift of wisdom. That represents so many comments we see on YouTube. Last one here from Jennifer Jones, 1128. Jennifer Jones.

Speaker 2:
[77:38] She was a favorite actress.

Speaker 1:
[77:40] Oh, she was a song by Bernadette. She won an Oscar for that. So the Blessed Mother.

Speaker 2:
[77:44] Very beautiful woman.

Speaker 1:
[77:45] Oh my gosh, she's gorgeous. I love Victor Davis Hanson. We need more people like Victor. I've learned so much by listening to him. He's the best at explaining the entirety of issues, especially love when he talks about certain periods of history and how he adds the nuances of all sides, like various ideologies of people involved in our economic policies of the time, etc. So Jennifer, Peter and others, thanks for all your kind words.

Speaker 2:
[78:12] Thank you everybody for the kind comments.

Speaker 1:
[78:15] As for me, Jack Fowler, Civil Thoughts, I write that for the Center for Civil Society. Comes out every Friday and you should get it. It's free. It's got 15 recommended readings. I know you're going to like it. So go to civilthoughts.com, sign up there, easy peasy. We're not selling your name. Trust me, you'll like it. Victor, thanks for all the wisdom you dispensed and shared.

Speaker 2:
[78:35] Thank you everybody for watching and viewing again. We'll see you next time. Thank you for tuning in to The Daily Signal. Please like, share and subscribe to be notified for more content like this. You can also check out my own website at victorhansen.com and subscribe for exclusive features in addition.