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Speaker 1:
[04:48] What's up? Welcome to The Confused Breakfast podcast. Do you remember the pure joy of a trip to the video rental store as a kid?

Speaker 2:
[04:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:56] Sure, it's hard to beat the ease and the convenience of the modern streaming era, but the experience of a Friday night trip to Blockbuster to make the big and sometimes tough decision of what movie was coming home with you was a truly magical experience. We're all part of the last generation that knows the joy of the search, snap of the plastic clam shell, smell of a Blockbuster, and we're here to revisit the movies that shaped us and defined our childhoods. My name is Mike Schulte. Joining me, as always, two dudes who are hiding behind their diplomatic credentials. Sean Prior and AJ Vence, how the heck are you?

Speaker 3:
[05:30] It's just been revoked.

Speaker 1:
[05:35] Do you want me to hit the button?

Speaker 2:
[05:37] It is him. It might be of all time. I'll be honest. We'll get there.

Speaker 1:
[05:44] Today's episode is powered by our friends at Big Grove Brewery. We've got some delicious Easy Eddies at our hands, which is truly the perfect way to talk about classic movies with your bros. Drink some Big Grove, watch some movie, drink some Big Grove in that order. Bam, bam, bam. Check out our friends, Big Grove. And on today, guys, today's episode is 1989's Lethal Weapon 2. We're going to do a scene-by-scene deep dive analysis on the entire movie. But first, we need to talk about nostalgia, fun facts and reviews to set the stage. Sean, I'm going to start with you, man. What's your first memories of Lethal Weapon 2? And what was your nostalgic rating of it?

Speaker 2:
[06:26] Honestly, this kind of runs together to me kind of like Wayne's World and Wayne's World 2. This series runs together for me unless Jet Li is in it. But rewatching it this time, it made a difference. But when I watched it the first time, it was like, that's more Lethal Weapon. That's fun. I like I like car chases. I like Mel Gibson saying funny stuff. I'm going to have to say 6.3.

Speaker 1:
[06:52] 6.3. AJ, what about you?

Speaker 3:
[06:54] Oh, man. Nostalgia. If you guys remember, I grew up on Lethal Weapon 3. Like that was my Lethal Weapon. And then I saw Lethal Weapon 1. And then I saw this other thing that was like, I think this is Lethal Weapon. And I didn't know what it was. But it turned out to be Lethal Weapon 2. And I was like, oh, I guess they're just doing Lethal Weapon stuff. You know what I mean? They're doing diehard stuff. And so Lethal Weapon 2 is the one that got lost in the weeds for me the most. And since I couldn't pin anything to it, there was no standout. There was no point of like, oh, there's Gary Busey, there's Jet Li, you know what I mean? There was nothing like that to almost latch on to. So Lethal Weapon 2 was for, nostalgically, was my least favorite seeing it for the first time. I'd probably just give it a 6.1.

Speaker 1:
[07:58] 6.1, I talked about it during Die Hard with Vengeance. This was, all of these action R-rated movies were owned on VHS by my cousins down the street. So like, when we go there, they'd be like, let's put on this. And I'd go, whatever. And they all like, all R-rated action movies are sort of the same to me when I was a kid. They're all just like, wow. Every once in a while, there's a booby and there's some killing. And I just don't really care. But I do remember, I gave Die Hard with Vengeance a five nostalgically. It's a 5.1, I would say, just because I did like Mel Gibson and Danny Glover better than I liked Sam L and Bruce Willis as a kid, nostalgically. So we gotta go to executive producer Starling. He says, while this definitely feels like something my dad would have shown us, he only ever rented action movies, Faces of Death, Death Wish and Home Alone. I only faintly recall this movie because of the iconic scene with Danny Glover and a commode, mostly because I'm pretty sure that clip cycled endlessly through the late night circuit in the late 80s. I also barely remember starting Lethal Weapon 4 about three times in 99 just to see Chris Rock, only to never finish it. So for me, this movie and honestly the entire franchise is kind of an NA. So not too great here, guys. We're a 5.97 on the grand scheme of movies we have done. 5.97 ties in 177th spot of all the movies we've done with Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

Speaker 3:
[09:23] There you go.

Speaker 1:
[09:24] Just going to hang out right there and sort of like, who cares?

Speaker 3:
[09:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:27] Who cares? But we are going to change that. We're going to give it a modern day review and rating. But we believe we got to talk kind of pertinent information from Sean first. What do you got on this one?

Speaker 2:
[09:37] Produced by Jill Silver and Richard Donner. Story by Shane Black and Warren Murphy. Screenplay by Jeffrey Bohm. He also did the screenplay for Lost Boys.

Speaker 1:
[09:51] What a stud.

Speaker 2:
[09:52] Cinematography by Stephen Goldblatt. He did the first Lethal Weapon, Batman Forever and Joe versus Volcano. Fun movie.

Speaker 1:
[09:59] Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 2:
[10:00] Ed by Stuart Baird, music by Michael Kamen, David Sanborn and Eric Clapton. Yeah. Oh, Smooth Hands, what they call it? Slow Hands. Slow Hands. Directed by Richard Donner.

Speaker 1:
[10:10] Speaking of cocaine. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:
[10:12] Cocaine. Cast Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, Joe Pesci, Joss Ackland, Derek O'Connor, Patsy Kensett, Darlene Love, Tracy Wolfe, Steve Cahan, Mark Ralston, Jeanette Goldstein, Dean Norris and Mary Ellen. Trainer.

Speaker 1:
[10:29] Hey.

Speaker 2:
[10:30] After the success of the first film, Joel Silver was gunning for another money-making juggernaut, so employed Shane Black once again to pen the script for the sequel. Black along with a partner wrote what he thought was his best script that he had ever written, and at the time it was called Play Dirty. However, Joel Silver and director Richard Donner loved the pure Shane Blackness of the script. They did not like the script whatsoever. They thought it was way too dark and the script actually killed off Riggs. So, they rejected it.

Speaker 1:
[11:01] Probably should have, but that's fine.

Speaker 2:
[11:03] Black was devastated but also felt like he failed them and even offered his payback, but his agent rescinded that, for sure. The team brought in script doctor and writer of The Lost Boys and The Last Crusade, Jeffrey Boehm, to revise the script and Black left the production. Leo Getz was only supposed to have only a minor role but was added in a lot more scenes to add more comedy to the film. Danny DeVito and Joey Pant were originally in mine for the role, but Joe Pesci won out.

Speaker 1:
[11:34] I like all of them. I like all of them. I mean, obviously, we'll talk about Pesci in this, but like, Joey Pants?

Speaker 2:
[11:42] Yeah, man.

Speaker 1:
[11:42] Danny DeVito?

Speaker 2:
[11:43] It's like a role made for them, to be honest.

Speaker 3:
[11:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:47] The film was shot mostly in Los Angeles, California, and director Richard Donner was known to improvise on set as far as set pieces went. The director would go off the cuff and create different and creative ways to get the shots they needed. They did actually shoot the ending of the film in two ways, one with Riggs dying in Murtaugh's arms and one where Riggs survives. Test audiences wanted Riggs to live. Another ending was filmed where Rika survived and comes to the Murtaugh's with Riggs for Thanksgiving dinner. You can see those clips on the internet.

Speaker 3:
[12:17] Yep, you can see those clips on the internet.

Speaker 2:
[12:22] Lethal Weapon was released on July 7th, 1989. Is that like your birthday, AJ? What's that? July 7th, 1989.

Speaker 3:
[12:29] It's really close. Yeah, basically.

Speaker 1:
[12:31] Birthday present for you.

Speaker 3:
[12:32] I'm a cancer.

Speaker 2:
[12:35] And on a budget of 30 million dollars.

Speaker 3:
[12:37] Not survivor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stars, you know.

Speaker 2:
[12:41] We're all rooting for you, man.

Speaker 3:
[12:42] Oh, you mean all the Sagatarians.

Speaker 2:
[12:45] The film, the budget was 30 million dollars. And then and then when it came out, people saw it and it made 227.9 million at the box.

Speaker 1:
[12:54] I was thinking, is that good?

Speaker 2:
[12:56] Taking the third spot that year, just behind the Indiana Jones, The Last Crusade and Batman.

Speaker 3:
[13:01] Batman.

Speaker 2:
[13:02] It beat out Ghostbusters 2 and Back to the Future 2.

Speaker 1:
[13:05] The year of sequels, apparently.

Speaker 2:
[13:07] Yeah, I guess so. It would also go on to spawn two more sequels. Oops. And a television show.

Speaker 1:
[13:12] Thanks, Sean. We gotta go to AJ now. We gotta find out what the fans and the critics have to say about this movie before we dissect it. What do you got on this one?

Speaker 3:
[13:20] We're back. We're bad. You're red. I'm mad. It's the Tinnado Theater. 82% certified fresh.

Speaker 1:
[13:31] All right, so the critics believe that this is a better movie than Lethal Weapon 1. Lethal Weapon 1 was an 81. This is an 82.

Speaker 3:
[13:41] I thought Lethal Weapon was an 82.

Speaker 1:
[13:43] It might have come down since.

Speaker 3:
[13:45] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[13:45] It might have just teetered.

Speaker 3:
[13:46] It might have teetered? No, not the teeters.

Speaker 2:
[13:49] You should have tottered.

Speaker 3:
[13:51] No.

Speaker 2:
[13:52] Kind of fun, right?

Speaker 3:
[13:53] Good one, man. Yeah, it's fun. 78%, yeah. 78% for the popcorn meter. And then 7.3 on IMDb.

Speaker 1:
[14:05] Interesting to note that is.3 lower than Lethal Weapon 1. So the critics like 2 better, fans like 1 better. That's what we're looking at here.

Speaker 3:
[14:12] Okay, see. Let's see, Washington Post gave it a 90 out of 100. Lethal Weapon 2 is no artless auto-piloted waste of precious movie theater air conditioning. It's fun stuff. Crackling playfully escape a summer fare that doesn't make you feel taken advantage of later. Roger Ebert, 88 out of 100. He was a big fan, big fan of this movie. Lethal Weapon 2 is that rarity. A sequel with most of the same qualities as the original. I walked into this movie with a certain dread, but this film, but this is a film with the same off-center invention and wild energy as the original. All right, guys, Letterboxd Grooveman gave this four and a half stars. He said, I wish when I did anything cool or dramatic, some smooth sack shit would start playing.

Speaker 2:
[15:05] No shit.

Speaker 3:
[15:06] Yeah, right? Just, we got to go. We got to go, Riggs.

Speaker 2:
[15:15] Just like you drop the Pringle case off of the counter, and then you catch it before it hits the ground.

Speaker 3:
[15:20] You're like, did you just recently drop some Pringles?

Speaker 2:
[15:24] I did.

Speaker 3:
[15:24] All right. Nice. Let's see. Four stars, the toilet bomb scene is the peak of this series. The silent look of love Murtaugh gives Riggs before his ass blows up is beautiful and well-earned.

Speaker 2:
[15:38] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[15:41] We had diplomatic immunity. It's just been revoked. There you go.

Speaker 2:
[15:44] It's a line from the movie.

Speaker 3:
[15:45] It's a line from the movie. I think that's where they got it from. So, in this review. Warning spoilers coming through here. Four and a half stars, guys. There's a scene in this where Riggs is sitting in his Winnebago Beach Palace, flipping through the channels, and when he stops on the three stooges, he just tosses the remote over his head like it never mattered, and nothing will ever be better than that in that specific moment.

Speaker 2:
[16:10] Absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[16:11] Kind of the same thing I do when I turn this movie on.

Speaker 1:
[16:14] Brilliant.

Speaker 3:
[16:15] 80s sequel law raises the EQ faders on almost everything, and Lethal Weapon 2 might do that better than most 80s sequels. Tons of fun, great sets, great set pieces, the Rubbers gag, the toilet bomb gag, fucking Pesci, the monolithic cast of characters and actors. If they had Davy in this, my head would have exploded. Davy? Davy? I don't know who they're talking about. Sorry. And I see you on the TV Tales from the Crypt. Diplomatic immunity.

Speaker 2:
[16:50] Yeah, I really don't even have to say anything. He just said it all for me.

Speaker 3:
[16:54] Okay. All right. Perfect.

Speaker 1:
[16:55] So modern day ratings, guys?

Speaker 2:
[16:57] Yeah. 8.8, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[16:58] Yeah, 8.8. Yeah, he's four and a half stars, so yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:02] Just about.

Speaker 3:
[17:03] There it is. Last one here, guys. Okay, okay, okay. It's got one of the, it's got one of the cinema's best duos doing bad shit, crazy on some South African neo-Nazis. It's got Joe Pesci as a goofy little hothead. It's got a sweet, soft rock soundtrack. It's got hot sex. It's got an exploding toilet. It's got everything I could want. Banger sequel and the perfect action movie. Okay? And just a reminder, everyone, they fuck you at the drive-thru. Okay? They fuck you at the drive-thru.

Speaker 1:
[17:33] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[17:34] There it is. That's also another quote from the movie.

Speaker 2:
[17:36] Oh, yeah, I remember that. That was a good one.

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Speaker 1:
[18:24] Here we go. Scene one, the movie begins with Riggs and Murtaugh chasing a car full of suspects through LA. Despite their efforts, the suspects escape via helicopter. After some time at the police station, the two go to Murtaugh's house to watch his daughter appear in her first commercial on TV.

Speaker 2:
[18:54] Right into the action.

Speaker 1:
[18:55] Dude, how does it, I thought for one second that I somehow missed the beginning. Cause they were just like, no, we're driving.

Speaker 2:
[19:03] I legitimately rewound, I'm like, wait. Like I thought I missed, like I thought like maybe like I had watched it before and it started a little later. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[19:13] No, it gets right into it and you see I'm surprised at how much this man has shown up in our five years of doing movies.

Speaker 3:
[19:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:22] Dean Norris.

Speaker 2:
[19:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[19:23] Dean Norris, man.

Speaker 1:
[19:25] Pre-Breaking Bad Dean Norris. This is one of his first roles he's ever done. It's just such a delight to see that man on camera and to realize like what we would eventually get from him down the road.

Speaker 3:
[19:35] He's so cool. He just is a cop.

Speaker 2:
[19:38] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[19:39] He's just a cop.

Speaker 1:
[19:40] Terminator 2, Lethal Weapon 2.

Speaker 2:
[19:42] Was he in NYPD Blue because I feel like that was made for him.

Speaker 1:
[19:46] I hope so.

Speaker 3:
[19:47] Was it Die Hard or was it Speed?

Speaker 1:
[19:51] Was he in another one?

Speaker 3:
[19:53] Yeah. He was a cop at the top of the elevator doing the thing.

Speaker 1:
[19:57] There's a theory there somewhere, but I think he dies in pretty much every movie.

Speaker 3:
[20:00] That checks out.

Speaker 1:
[20:01] Including Breaking Bad. Spoilers to you guys.

Speaker 3:
[20:04] It's witness protection.

Speaker 2:
[20:05] What? I love that they take such care of the ancillary cops almost, like their division, I guess, like Jeanette Goldstein in Here Too. They're all taking bets on them. It's really funny and he's like, I didn't know he had the station wagon.

Speaker 3:
[20:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:21] Murtaugh's driving, his wife's station wagon, whoa, whoa, no bet.

Speaker 3:
[20:24] Bad bet. No bet. No bet. Bad bet. It's bad information.

Speaker 2:
[20:28] That's really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:30] You're right. There is a lot of just like ancillary characters in this movie that all are so great and get a little bit of time, but not a lot. Like even Mark Ralston plays Hans, the initial guy they're chasing who's Boggs in Shawshank.

Speaker 3:
[20:44] That's right.

Speaker 2:
[20:45] That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:46] Which is coming up. Yeah, he's been in a lot of things and he just sort of.

Speaker 3:
[20:50] Departed?

Speaker 1:
[20:51] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[20:52] He was in that, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:53] He's just sort of here.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] That's what I was thinking. I was thinking like bloody mouth.

Speaker 3:
[20:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:57] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[21:00] He's like, why didn't I say anything? There it is.

Speaker 2:
[21:03] The action here is just so good. I think Richard Donner obviously is like, he's up there with sort of action and kind of adventure filmmaking too. In my mind, taking the time to give us a sense of time and space in action scenes is very important to me. Especially when they're on the bridge chasing the guy, they have split up at this point. And the, I guess, ancillary cops or like the beat cops are down below. And then they're on, they're on the bridge. And then we get like the wide shot of that moving. It's a perfect, like, because the highway curves and then reveals like the cops down below. Just really cool stuff like that just to see like, okay, what's our location? I'm going to get this shot and we're going to have to time it perfectly. You know, it's, it's just really good.

Speaker 3:
[21:49] Well, it's all, it's all done extremely well. But then you have, it's like the chaos factor of Riggs that distracts you, not, not distracts you, but like helps it move along. And like, not that it needs any help, but him just sitting there in the, in the, in the passenger seat, like, woo, man, I love this job. He's just like so stoked to be in a car chase again. When he's probably been done this, like, I don't know, a couple of times a week for the entirety of his career. He's just stoked to be back into another one. But then you get him driving and he's like, and he just has so many of these like little lines. One-liners and stuff, he's like, oh man, you were right, Rog, it wasn't enough for him. He just destroyed half that car. It's just, it's so fun to watch these two play against each other. They are the ultimate buddy cop, you know, the team to me, and they do it so perfect. I mean, yes, there's plenty of other ones out there, just like, you know, call it whatever you want, Tango and Cash.

Speaker 1:
[22:52] Turner and Hooch.

Speaker 3:
[22:53] Turner and Hooch. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. You know, Butch Cassidy and Mozart. You know, lots of them.

Speaker 2:
[23:04] McCabe and Mrs. Miller.

Speaker 3:
[23:06] There you go.

Speaker 5:
[23:06] There's a lot of stuff going on there.

Speaker 3:
[23:07] You see, you know, Stallone and Woody and Mia.

Speaker 2:
[23:18] They were all there.

Speaker 3:
[23:20] Bert and Lonnie. Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[23:22] What they do tell you in this pretty early on is that, like, hey, this is, this is 80s, late 80s action. We're going to give it to you. We're going to give you some funny stuff. We're going to give you some action. But also just don't really worry about the plot. Like, they kind of let you know that in the beginning. Because there's so much in this movie that just doesn't make sense. But they do it so well that you don't care. Like, Riggs chasing him down, running, and then just being there, and being able to get on the car. Him deciding the way to evade gun automatic weapons is to just do a cartwheel.

Speaker 2:
[23:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:59] Like, yeah. You don't care. Them shooting this helicopter shows up. And for some reason, they can't shoot the helicopter. All these cops with their guns, the helicopter just goes, we're here. We're a helicopter. And don't shoot. Nobody shoot. Okay, now we're gonna go away. But that's what I, they do it well enough to where normally my nitpicking would be like, man, fuck this movie. But it's so good. Like even, we'll get to the South African gang. They're like the worst evil villain ever because we don't understand any of it. We don't know why. We don't really know how, but they're just there and we hate them and it's fine.

Speaker 2:
[24:38] That's why it really surprises me that Shane Black left this movie. I know they took his initial script because he did rewrite it for them, but Jeffrey Bohm did the other revision and make it a little more happier. Because this feels like a Shane Black script to a T. Picture of the Nice Guys. Sort of convoluted Detroit gang land cover up going on in Nice Guys. And then this is like South African gangsters doing it because there's... And on top of that, they're racist.

Speaker 1:
[25:16] And they deal in one-eyed Willie's rich stuff. Like out of the trunk is like gold bouillon from a pirate ship.

Speaker 2:
[25:23] It's always like this...

Speaker 3:
[25:25] You expect a stiff of like Mikey falls out of that with all the gold too.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] They kill the kid and get it done.

Speaker 2:
[25:32] Yeah. It's always in a Shane Black thing. It's like a sort of vaguely political ancillary sort of background bad guy. But because it's not the point. The point is Riggs and Murtaugh. That's just trying to stop these guys.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] That's really well said, actually. People will even say like, oh, number two, it's the worst one of the series. It's like, it's not actually. And so the reason I think you get caught up in that is because you don't have somebody so direct to hate or a reason to hate them other than the fact that they're just shitty people. Right?

Speaker 1:
[26:04] We just don't know why they're doing what they're doing or why no one's catching them or what. But it's like you don't care.

Speaker 3:
[26:12] Yeah. Well, and I think, you know, especially back during this during that this time though, like 89 and stuff. I mean, and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if I maybe I should have read this one up, but like this like, like in South Africa, like apartheid and all this stuff that's going on.

Speaker 1:
[26:29] This is for real.

Speaker 3:
[26:30] This is, it's all real stuff. And like, no wonder it's like, let's give Germany a break from being the bad guy.

Speaker 1:
[26:39] Take all the same actors.

Speaker 3:
[26:40] Who else could we get? Yeah, we'll just call them South African. They're in the hot mess right now.

Speaker 2:
[26:45] What's South Africa ever done to like, you know, like make people hate them or whatever? We'll make them racist.

Speaker 3:
[26:51] Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:54] We'll call black people a word that I have to look up on Google and I'm pretty sure I'm a list now.

Speaker 3:
[26:58] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[26:58] I don't think you're supposed to say that word.

Speaker 2:
[27:00] No, I don't think you'll say it either.

Speaker 1:
[27:01] But I thought they were saying gaffer. I thought the English guy was saying gaffer, which means boss.

Speaker 2:
[27:07] Or like the gaffer on set. Yeah, get out of the way, gaffer.

Speaker 1:
[27:10] No, they were saying a different word.

Speaker 3:
[27:12] Yikes. Guys, we're so close, aren't we?

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Yeah, gaffer. Gaffer. You got it.

Speaker 3:
[27:18] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[27:19] Much like prawn or other words you can't say. Grape.

Speaker 3:
[27:24] There you go. Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1:
[27:27] Unalive.

Speaker 2:
[27:30] It's triggering.

Speaker 3:
[27:33] Discontent.

Speaker 2:
[27:34] But that word is probably very trigger.

Speaker 1:
[27:37] The one we're trying to not say? Yes.

Speaker 3:
[27:39] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:
[27:40] Not kill it, not someone died. You can say that. You can say that. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 6:
[30:52] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a free night stay anywhere?

Speaker 5:
[30:57] Anywhere.

Speaker 6:
[30:58] What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris?

Speaker 5:
[31:00] Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby.

Speaker 6:
[31:02] Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum?

Speaker 5:
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Speaker 6:
[31:08] What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives?

Speaker 5:
[31:11] Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties?

Speaker 7:
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Speaker 3:
[31:22] It goes from like kind of them and then we do see like our bad guys in that room. And when he, when that first guy goes down and it's just plastic in the body, dude, my nightmare.

Speaker 1:
[31:35] Brother, just know that you should never walk into a mob boss layer when there's painters cloth on the floor.

Speaker 3:
[31:44] It's like, just don't do it. Oh, don't, don't pay any mind to that. We're having the, we're having the ceilings painted. So anyways, boom. You're like, dude, yeah, I'm not stepping on to that. And they even bring it back as a funny joke later. The guy's like, he's like looking right.

Speaker 1:
[32:01] wish.com Tom Hardy. Just checking to make sure there's no painters cloth.

Speaker 3:
[32:07] There's no plastic on the floor. It's like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[32:11] It's a really well done scene too. I think it's the introduction of that. Because the audience kind of knows. You kind of know walking in. It's just a movie, so you're like, whatever.

Speaker 3:
[32:22] Boggs always dies, man. This guy always dies. He's basically Sean Bean. Yeah. And so, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:29] But yeah, he walks in and plastic where you're like, okay, I know what's going to happen. And I have to mention it every time that happens. There's split diopter shots everywhere here. It's just fucking cinema, dude. It's fucking awesome. It's easy and shit.

Speaker 1:
[32:42] It's awesome. You know that our audience loves this kind of trivia from me. Did you recognize Murtaugh's house? It's on the Warner Brothers' back lot, this house.

Speaker 2:
[32:55] So Monster Squad, right?

Speaker 1:
[32:57] It might have been. I'm sure it's been used in a ton. But the main one that I associated with is Todd and Margo's house from Christmas Vacation. Same exact house. So there was going to be a big theory in there about how they sold it to the Murtaugh's, but it all happened in the same time frame.

Speaker 2:
[33:12] You'll come up with it, man. I believe in you.

Speaker 1:
[33:15] I probably won't. I just wanted to leave it at that.

Speaker 3:
[33:18] Did you know? I halfway thought, and maybe this is where you should take your social media clip, is, did you know that the Murtaugh's house is actually the same house? Do you recognize this house? Lethal Weapon 1. It's like, what the? You son of a bitch.

Speaker 1:
[33:34] I don't need more people hate me, but it sounds fun.

Speaker 3:
[33:37] You son of a bitch, I'm in.

Speaker 2:
[33:40] This is, like I said, the movie's more focused on Riggs and Murtaugh, less of the plot and the bad guy and who they're trying to stop and stuff, until it intrudes their lives, which is what happens a little later. But to get these guys together, they're going back to this house that had blown up right in the first one.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Yes, so that's why the contractor's there working.

Speaker 2:
[34:01] He's like, I'm making a man cave, man. Like, this is going to be fucking awesome. We get the introduction of the nail gun that comes in.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] Jack McGee.

Speaker 2:
[34:10] Jack McGee, yes.

Speaker 1:
[34:12] He's a that guy, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[34:14] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[34:14] Ooh, here's a prop.

Speaker 2:
[34:17] I do want that nail gun.

Speaker 3:
[34:18] That nail gun. It looks nice. And I think it's wireless, too.

Speaker 2:
[34:21] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[34:22] I mean, that's legit.

Speaker 1:
[34:23] So I want a $1,000 bill because we'll talk about that later, but I didn't really think there was such a thing as $1,000 bills, but I did some research.

Speaker 2:
[34:33] There should be million dollar bills.

Speaker 1:
[34:34] We're going to learn some history later on. So that's my prop. I want one of those.

Speaker 3:
[34:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:38] With blood on it, preferably.

Speaker 3:
[34:39] I want Riggs's jacket. It's that Quicksilver jacket.

Speaker 2:
[34:43] Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[34:44] And like, you can't really tell, like the the logo on the back, it looks like it's really washed out or something, like they were trying to hide it almost. But it's a Quicksilver jacket.

Speaker 2:
[34:55] Like he needed a jacket, so he went to the first surf shop he could find on the way to Murtaugh's house.

Speaker 1:
[35:00] You can't wear that.

Speaker 3:
[35:01] He went to Zoomies and picked up a Quicksilver, a Pac-Son.

Speaker 2:
[35:07] Mary Ellen Tranner is in here?

Speaker 3:
[35:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:09] Brother, you know, we don't have track of the Jarrett Layoff actor database anymore because our boy, Jarrett, took some time off. We asked way too much from him. Oh, yeah. The man did so much work for us.

Speaker 3:
[35:20] We, I still say we need to get a candle made of him. Yeah, just a Jarrett Layoff candle.

Speaker 1:
[35:26] But at the point when that, he was keeping track of how many times an actor was in a movie. Mary Ellen, I think, is at like 10 or 11. She was on Mount Rushmore and she's been in two or three since we stopped keeping track of that. She might be at the top and she's just there and gone.

Speaker 2:
[35:44] Richard Donner movies. I think that's because we've covered so many of his movies. I think that's why she's here.

Speaker 3:
[35:50] I always get Richard Donner and Rob Reiner mixed up.

Speaker 1:
[35:53] Oh yeah, me too, man.

Speaker 3:
[35:54] I don't know why. Does anybody else do that? That's fun. Anyways, go ahead.

Speaker 2:
[35:57] I can see why, but no.

Speaker 3:
[36:00] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[36:01] I have to say the condom commercial when they're all in there to see the screening of the condom commercial. What's on TV is Donner's Christmas Tales from the Crypt episode. That's the one I've talked about for all these years, all through the house with Mary Ellen Trainor. So she's in this movie twice, basically.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] That counts as twice.

Speaker 2:
[36:21] Okay. One of the best Christmas specials ever made. I mean, it's horror, so you guys might not like it, but you should really check it out. But I'm glad it's in here just in the background. He's like, because I think he's really proud of it, and I think he fucking should be.

Speaker 1:
[36:37] Well, and for future reference, if any of my daughters are going to get into acting, they're going to do their first acting thing in a commercial, I'm going to ask a few questions. I'm going to be like, man, what's the commercial for? How was it on set today? How many lines? Do you want to practice lines with me? I'm going to ask a few questions so that I'm not completely blindsided when my daughter ends up in a condom commercial.

Speaker 3:
[37:00] Yeah, yeah, it's important. Did you ever see that episode of Friends when Joey is just going to do some modeling work, and then it turns out, but he has no idea what it's for, and then he gets to a subway, and there's a big thing of him just standing there like this, and it's like, they all don't know, but he's got VD.

Speaker 1:
[37:19] You just got to ask a couple of questions.

Speaker 3:
[37:21] VD?

Speaker 2:
[37:22] VD.

Speaker 3:
[37:23] VD, venereal VDs.

Speaker 2:
[37:25] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[37:26] Which one would you rather have, VD or VD?

Speaker 2:
[37:28] True, true.

Speaker 3:
[37:28] Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[37:29] I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[37:30] Either way, something may go on right.

Speaker 2:
[37:31] We'll discuss that in the Patreon, a full hour episode of that.

Speaker 3:
[37:34] Yeah, lots of detox in the Patreon.

Speaker 1:
[37:38] Good stuff, man.

Speaker 2:
[37:39] You're going to like it. I don't know, man. I would probably see it and be like, oh, I did not know it was for condoms. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[37:47] You could have told me.

Speaker 2:
[37:48] But she's getting there. She's that age, right?

Speaker 1:
[37:51] I believe she's probably over 18, because she talks about, she says, I'll go buy you a beer to her boyfriend, and he goes, hey, you're not 21 yet. Meaning she's probably 20, 19, 20 living at home maybe.

Speaker 3:
[38:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:06] Maybe not even living at home.

Speaker 3:
[38:07] Maybe not. Yeah. I mean, maybe just all excited because it's a family thing. We're excited for her success. That's what supportive families do.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[38:16] Then it turns out it's a condom commercial. So you're like, wow. So you're like one step away from the wrong industry. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:24] Which is really funny. If I didn't have a direct personal very deep relationship with Murtaugh, I would fucking razzle about it too.

Speaker 3:
[38:32] Oh, dude.

Speaker 1:
[38:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:34] I mean, you have to.

Speaker 3:
[38:35] This is what an amazing through line joke. It's his nightmare because it's his daughter and the implications.

Speaker 1:
[38:44] Of course. You don't want to think about that.

Speaker 3:
[38:46] You don't want to think about that. Isn't it the same guy who was there?

Speaker 1:
[38:50] No.

Speaker 3:
[38:50] It's a different guy? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[38:52] It's like Bo Jackson.

Speaker 3:
[38:55] It's like, well, it makes sense here, I guess. But now, yes, that's somehow still not the worst part of it. He's a cop.

Speaker 1:
[39:06] He's going to get razzed for it.

Speaker 3:
[39:07] He's just the endless amount of shit that he's anticipating.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] All because Riggs had to bring it up and tell everybody.

Speaker 3:
[39:14] He's like, don't tell anybody about this.

Speaker 2:
[39:17] Maybe somehow she told Riggs that she was going to be in. Like Riggs knew.

Speaker 1:
[39:22] They're pretty close. I mean, Riggs is very much a part of this family at this point.

Speaker 2:
[39:26] Don't worry about it, Murtaugh. In one ear, out the rubber.

Speaker 3:
[39:32] It's such a great line, dude. And he's just kind of the supportive, like almost like stepdad in a weird way. Stepdad, uncle vibe of just like, it's like, no, you don't have to go. It's like, he's got a gun. He's like, yeah, but it's an old gun. He's not a very good shot. It's like, it doesn't matter. It just stick around. It's like, it's all the same. We're going to go. It's like, all right.

Speaker 2:
[39:56] Was it the first one that she had a big crush on, Riggs?

Speaker 1:
[39:58] Yes, I know.

Speaker 2:
[39:59] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[40:00] So scene two, we meet bad guy, Aaron.

Speaker 3:
[40:02] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[40:03] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[40:03] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[40:03] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[40:03] Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[40:04] Scene two, we meet bad guy, Aaron. Aaron Rood and his goon squad who tries to get the cops off their tail by staging a home invasion at Murtaugh's. Riggs and Murtaugh are assigned to protect federal witness named Leo Getz. They witnessed someone trying to kill Leo. They attempt to confront Aaron, but are waved off by threats of diplomatic immunity.

Speaker 2:
[40:22] Okay. Should we talk about the pad Riggs has? Once again, did we talk about it much? I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[40:29] It was like our third episode.

Speaker 3:
[40:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:31] So it's a long time ago.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] Let's talk about it again. Now, I'm not saying that I don't love my life.

Speaker 3:
[40:36] Right.

Speaker 2:
[40:36] I'm not saying I don't love my wife. But if in a fantasy world, if I was to be a widow and have nothing to live for, this is the dream. This is the absolute fucking dream, Pat.

Speaker 1:
[40:52] I don't know. The whole lack of sand thing kills it for me, but the rocks, I need a little sand.

Speaker 2:
[40:58] I see that.

Speaker 3:
[40:58] You got the beach right there. Salt Life. Salt Life, bro. Salt Life for 2069. You bet.

Speaker 1:
[41:08] Riggs is the first Salt Life guy.

Speaker 2:
[41:10] It's not Riggs, it's Riz.

Speaker 3:
[41:12] It's Riz.

Speaker 1:
[41:14] It's W. Riz, man.

Speaker 3:
[41:17] Hey, Riz. No, dude, you're talking about like this place is just like a Winnebago. Like it's like he could live anywhere, really. But this is true. He's kind of put down some roots, you know?

Speaker 1:
[41:32] Some wheels.

Speaker 3:
[41:32] He put down the sides. So he's here.

Speaker 1:
[41:36] He actually went as far enough to like use the hydraulic lifts to take the wheels off the ground. He's like, we're not going. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[41:41] He's like, let's take some pressure off of the shocks. But he is, he's got the dog, Sam, the dog.

Speaker 1:
[41:50] Great dog.

Speaker 3:
[41:51] Great dog. All this guy has to do is watch the water and the sunset happen, then get up, walk 20 feet, after throwing away that beer, to wherever, because it's LA, it's just litter, man. I think it's LA. And he's like, and then he goes right back in, and he's, while listening to Eric Clapton, basically, 24-7, and then he turns on Three Stooges and has another beer.

Speaker 1:
[42:22] And throws the remote.

Speaker 3:
[42:23] With his dog and throws the remote.

Speaker 2:
[42:24] Perfect.

Speaker 3:
[42:25] Like, I'm not going to need that again tonight.

Speaker 2:
[42:28] That's the, I mean, it's the ultimate, exactly. It's the ultimate man life. I'm sorry, I just, like, it is. That's what I want.

Speaker 3:
[42:35] Yeah. I think you're, I said it, said in the last episode, there's something to be had about the way this dude is just living life. Yeah. And it's pretty great. For Jerry, right? What's that?

Speaker 2:
[42:46] For Jerry in, with the Vengeance, or was that somebody else?

Speaker 3:
[42:49] Oh, no, for, for Wayne and Garth.

Speaker 2:
[42:54] Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3:
[42:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just living in that friggin pad, man. But the, I just have to, I just got to say, though, guys, that episode of Three Stooges looked like it was about over, and I really hate to think it's like an infomercial afterwards. This guy can go find that remote now. It's like, I think it's problematic, more problematic than Riggs actually.

Speaker 1:
[43:14] I just said it next to you. You might need it.

Speaker 3:
[43:16] You know, who are you trying to impress right now? I'm just saying, man.

Speaker 1:
[43:20] But Riggs is, Riggs is a tough character on this one because it is, he is trying to make the best of his life, but then, you know, he's back over at Murtaugh's and him and the wife have that conversation.

Speaker 2:
[43:28] It's a great scene. I think it's my favorite scene in the movie. I love this scene.

Speaker 1:
[43:31] It's incredible, man. The way he, the way he explains it, the way he's kind of even keeled about it, you can tell it's a big deal, but he's got it together. It's been four years or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[43:41] Yeah, she even says, like, oh, I'm sorry to bring it up. It's all right.

Speaker 3:
[43:46] We never really talked about it, did we?

Speaker 2:
[43:47] We never really talked about it, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:48] But there's that really small touch there that I had never seen before. Like obviously later on in the movie, he's on the beach with Rika and he's talking about making chili and he says, do you like that with or without Oreos? So subtle, but during this intense speech he's making, he reaches for a bag of Oreos and you see him crumple them and put them inside the chili without drawing any attention to it.

Speaker 3:
[44:12] I did not notice that. How did I not?

Speaker 2:
[44:15] He's putting cans of Hormel into the pot and cutting onions up and shit and then he's crushing Oreos.

Speaker 1:
[44:21] At the deepest part of his story, his hand goes over, you hear a little bit of rustling and then he goes and puts it in the...

Speaker 2:
[44:31] It sounds good.

Speaker 3:
[44:32] I'm going to try it.

Speaker 1:
[44:34] Is that our next movie?

Speaker 3:
[44:36] It can't. It'll be Dinner and a Movie. We're going to do it for Lethal Weapon 3. Because that's going to be sometime around the holiday, just letting you guys know. Yeah, I will make chili because I do... I don't mean to brag, guys. I make a banging pot of chili. Okay. I'll throw the Oreos in.

Speaker 2:
[44:55] Hell yeah. Because think about it. You have cornbread with chili. It's a little sweet, right? It's like a sweet cake.

Speaker 3:
[45:02] You know, hey, you're not far off from a pretty banging mole sauce, okay? I'm just saying, bro.

Speaker 2:
[45:09] Holy mole.

Speaker 4:
[45:10] Holy mole.

Speaker 3:
[45:12] Chili.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] And I think that night is when they get the first... the kind of jump scare, man, with the duct tape. Like, it's a little intense. But I also had some problems with Murtaugh. Like, is he really that old and feeble to where he just kind of sucks in physical situations? They duct tape their mouth and arms. They don't duct tape their legs whatsoever. And these guys leave and they're in the bed like, can't get up. I can't get out of my bed. Like, they don't... If you duct tape my arms and my mouth, I can get out of bed and stand up and go run somewhere.

Speaker 3:
[45:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:48] They were just like stuck in their bed.

Speaker 2:
[45:50] I think we've demonstrated on the show before of getting up without your hands.

Speaker 1:
[45:53] They say that's actually a sign of you're not old yet. Like, if you can lay on the ground and get up without putting your hands down, you're still an active person and you can do that stuff.

Speaker 3:
[46:05] I just have to say, if that was Riggs, they probably would have all been dead before the night was over. You know what I mean? And he would have, like, Tom Cruise-ed his way at, like, going up the pole. He would have just, like, ninja-kicked up, and he'd be good to go.

Speaker 1:
[46:20] Or, check this out. Or just kind of roll my legs over and then kind of roll over and sit up. It just was weird to me that they didn't at least show them duct-taping their legs or something. They just left.

Speaker 3:
[46:34] I know.

Speaker 2:
[46:35] True.

Speaker 3:
[46:36] It's one of those things, so, yeah, because there was definitely, like, dudes holding them down, holding their legs down, but they were just having this full-on conversation. Again, you're a guy who has the worst accent possible. It's like, oh, anything distinguishing about them? Yeah, this stupid voice.

Speaker 1:
[46:55] Blue eyes and a stupid voice.

Speaker 3:
[46:57] Like, this weird accent, but South African accents are really tough to pin, you know? If you've ever heard, like, anyone from South Africa talk. See you at the Africa.

Speaker 1:
[47:07] It's like Germany and New Zealand had a baby and then had an affair with, like, Arkansas.

Speaker 3:
[47:12] Yeah, with Finland. With Arkansas, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:16] It's a weird accent. One of my least favorites.

Speaker 3:
[47:18] It's a really strange accent, but it's also, once you hear it, you can't unhear it. So it's just like, yeah, that's that guy. He's South African. And it just so happens there's the South African consulate that seems to be doing nefarious shit. I feel like there's something here.

Speaker 1:
[47:36] Apparently, they've been on the trail of for many years because that's why they killed Riggs' wife on accident.

Speaker 2:
[47:42] Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:44] But that's what I'm saying, like, there's no thought at all to this plot.

Speaker 2:
[47:49] Because we don't have a relationship with even Riggs' wife in the first one. She's already dead in that one, correct?

Speaker 3:
[47:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:55] And so, yeah, I mean, you're right. It doesn't, we all, all we need is the more motivation for Riggs to kind of go off the rails like he does at the end of this movie. With the killing of Rika and the re, or the-

Speaker 3:
[48:10] The realization.

Speaker 2:
[48:11] Confirmation, realization that they killed his wife as well.

Speaker 1:
[48:13] It's just so convenient, but it's just like, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 3:
[48:17] It's so convenient, but it's also, it works, but it works really good.

Speaker 1:
[48:22] As long as you don't question it and you're not going, well, why? But why, why is he here? And why is, they just don't and it's fine. Everything's fine.

Speaker 3:
[48:31] And so it makes you kind of wonder if like this entire police force is mildly incompetent. Like this department right here, like their whole team, Dean Norris included.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] They're more worried about Poker Night than-

Speaker 3:
[48:44] Yeah, they're super worried about Poker Night. Murtaugh's entire family just got threatened with deep murder and he's going to play poker.

Speaker 2:
[48:53] And they're joking. Yeah, exactly. They're like having jokes and having fun about it. I'm like, this is- That's fucked up.

Speaker 3:
[48:59] You get more- You got more rubber talk happening.

Speaker 1:
[49:02] And it's just like- Let's get back to the jokes.

Speaker 3:
[49:04] Let's start- Let's just bust each other's chops and stuff. Hey, we're cops.

Speaker 1:
[49:07] We're bust chops, man.

Speaker 3:
[49:09] And so you just- It just seems like there's like this kind of weird incompetence because it's like, yeah, this gold Kruger in. And well, where does that come from? Turns out it's south. It's like everything is pointing you here. Instead- And somebody just says diplomatic amenity.

Speaker 1:
[49:27] Instead, we're just going to take everyone completely off this case to be with Joe Pesci.

Speaker 3:
[49:32] Yes, of course.

Speaker 1:
[49:33] Which is one of the best moves this movie has ever made.

Speaker 3:
[49:36] This entire series of movies might have fallen off.

Speaker 1:
[49:41] Without Pesci.

Speaker 3:
[49:41] Without Pesci. If you didn't add in Pesci to this, and because him in number three, he's what makes number three, in my opinion.

Speaker 2:
[49:51] He's such a poster.

Speaker 3:
[49:52] He's such a big part of it, man. Yeah. They kind of wrote his name on it too.

Speaker 2:
[49:56] Yeah. He's like peeking behind their shoulders.

Speaker 1:
[49:59] They wanted to know how to get people back out. And he was such a hit in this movie that it essentially revitalized his career. He was not that big of a star come 1988-89 anymore. His star had fallen. He does Lethal Weapon 2. It's such a hit. His character is so big that he then does Goodfellas, Home Alone, My Cousin Vinny, Lethal Weapon 3, Home Alone 2, A Bronx Tale, Casino in six years.

Speaker 3:
[50:30] What? Man, we talked about massive runs. That's...

Speaker 1:
[50:34] Guys.

Speaker 3:
[50:35] Huge.

Speaker 1:
[50:36] And it's weird to me to see him not, like, to see him getting tossed around like a little fucking nerd. Like, he's just like, it doesn't feel like Pesci to me. The Pesci that we know, which is why I think it's so brilliant that he's, like, acting this way. And it's such a unique character for him.

Speaker 3:
[50:54] Well, geez, and I mean, there's those couple of times, him, when they have him next to Riggs and Murtaugh, especially, he looks so small.

Speaker 1:
[51:04] A little baby.

Speaker 3:
[51:04] And then, like, he's looking around and he's like, well, we're going to take that room. He's like, well, my stuff's in there already. I've already packed. He's like, and you just have Riggs is just, like, staring him down with those Riggs eyes. And you're just like, okay, okay, okay. You guys got that room. I'll take the small. I'm the smallest guy here, right? So I just take the small room. It's like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[51:22] Do I get a gun? You don't get a gun? Okay, okay. You're right. Yeah, okay, okay. And even with the, like, kind of catchphrase, okay, okay, okay, okay, kind of thing, he plays it and he knows, like, when to deploy it, it seems. Or like, I guess the script maybe is.

Speaker 1:
[51:33] It's not every other word.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[51:35] Although I did count them.

Speaker 2:
[51:36] Okay, well, before that, it's, he's like, he's very, like, sniper with it. You know what I mean? He knows when to deploy it, when the situation needs it, I guess. And then only, like, doesn't do all of the okays in one. He's like, okay, so here's this. Okay. Like, he kind of breaks them up too. So like, it's very refreshing. It's not like so annoying that it becomes a catchphrase that becomes annoying.

Speaker 1:
[52:02] Yeah. Like, he starts and ends every sentence with okay and then okay. It's no, he, you're right. He will deploy it. And then there'll be those certain times where there's like eight in a fucking row when he's just excited.

Speaker 2:
[52:12] He's like, cat, cat, cat, cat. Cause I do believe Leo Getz is the less is more. Yeah. With Leo Getz.

Speaker 1:
[52:19] 100%. He can't just show up and just be the main character. But yeah, I counted it. He says okay 132 times.

Speaker 3:
[52:28] It's like, we're like getting into Scorsese's F.

Speaker 2:
[52:32] I was just going to say, what's that compared to how many times he says fuck in another movie?

Speaker 1:
[52:37] It's probably close. We should do that.

Speaker 2:
[52:40] We should look that up.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] Okay. Does Joe Pesci say fuck more than he says okay in these two movies?

Speaker 2:
[52:47] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[52:47] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[52:48] So fun reference here guys, since we brought up this amazing run of movies that he had. Eventually he gets to home alone. Do you know the van that Harry and Marv are driving is Okay Plumbing?

Speaker 2:
[53:04] Oh, no shit. That's great.

Speaker 3:
[53:09] It's a callback.

Speaker 1:
[53:10] Is this on purpose?

Speaker 3:
[53:11] It has to be. Look, Okay Plumbing and Heating.

Speaker 1:
[53:16] Is there a tagline?

Speaker 3:
[53:17] It says, residential work is our specialty. Call JK5 whatever.

Speaker 1:
[53:26] But that's incredible.

Speaker 3:
[53:28] It's definitely, it's okay.

Speaker 1:
[53:31] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[53:33] Okay Plumbing and Heating.

Speaker 3:
[53:33] Okay. Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[53:35] Okay Plumbing and Heating.

Speaker 3:
[53:38] Whatever you need, Leo Getz.

Speaker 1:
[53:43] This reminded me of Die Hard with the Vengeance. Him explaining money laundering was the same way I felt about the water gallons.

Speaker 3:
[53:49] Oh, dude.

Speaker 2:
[53:49] I was just like, Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:51] Fuck, what? I had to rewind it a couple of times. I don't get what you're saying.

Speaker 2:
[53:55] It went over my head. I'm like, I personally do not need this information.

Speaker 1:
[53:59] I don't need to launder my money.

Speaker 2:
[54:00] I know why they're here. I know why they need to protect him. Fine.

Speaker 3:
[54:03] There's a great line in the office. Kevin is saying, because money laundering was happening or something, one of the guys was busted a while back for money laundering. And Kevin's like, I had Oscar explain to me what Martin did three times, and it sounds a lot like what I do every day. It's like, so.

Speaker 1:
[54:33] We'll just pretend like it didn't.

Speaker 3:
[54:34] Yeah, exactly. And the money laundering thing, it doesn't sound like what he, how he describes it, doesn't sound like a smart way of doing it. But I don't understand it either.

Speaker 1:
[54:46] Like when he's like, I take a little cut, what percent, 2%? And I'm like, dude, all right, Leo.

Speaker 2:
[54:50] All I did was launder half a billion dollars.

Speaker 3:
[54:52] All I did, yeah, all I did.

Speaker 1:
[54:54] Half a billion is 1.3 trillion nowadays. That is unfathomable amounts of money. And he's gonna get away scot-free.

Speaker 3:
[55:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:04] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[55:04] Fucking idiots.

Speaker 3:
[55:05] Yeah. He's gonna get off completely as long as he doesn't die, basically.

Speaker 1:
[55:08] Which he might because, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:10] The House on Stilts scene we hear.

Speaker 1:
[55:12] Yes. We're going to their house.

Speaker 2:
[55:14] Awesome. Awesome action set piece again. Like the, it looks like maybe where they even filmed the movie Drive, the car chase scene there. When they get to the House on Stilts and that whole thing happens, but then like the tow truck chase and everything ensues. Just all you, like the perfect LA car chase setting is just like these back like, like winding hills. You know, I love it so much. But the rigs climbing on the tow truck, the threat of he like makes the thing go forward. That freaks me out.

Speaker 1:
[55:50] That's terrifying.

Speaker 2:
[55:51] Just always raising the stakes in these things like the pedestrians driving by and the surfboard, like cutting the dude's head off pretty much.

Speaker 1:
[55:59] Just him as a surfboard.

Speaker 2:
[56:00] This is all fucking awesome.

Speaker 3:
[56:02] It's so good, dude.

Speaker 1:
[56:04] It's incredible. Like what they give us the fun action scenes, then they give us the fun moments of character development. It's just it's so well done. But I also have questions about like, so like this house is owned by the country of South Africa?

Speaker 2:
[56:20] Apparently, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:21] Like I don't think that that means that this is foreign soil. The way he's claiming is this is foreign soil. It's owned by South Africa. I'm not sure that's how that works.

Speaker 3:
[56:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:31] I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[56:32] He's talking about it like it's a consulate ground or something. This is a house. That's just a house.

Speaker 1:
[56:37] This is an Airbnb that you're renting right now.

Speaker 3:
[56:38] Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. This is you, you were in South Africa. You're like, oh, we need a cool place. Like, you know, where a James Bond villain might do business. Well, we can't do that at the consulate. Well, hey, I found this place on Verbo and it's like, it's on stilts. It's like perfect.

Speaker 1:
[56:54] Oh yeah. You don't want to own a house on stilts. We could totally rent one. Don't want that kind of maintenance.

Speaker 3:
[56:59] Insurance is through the roof. No pun intended.

Speaker 2:
[57:01] Oh yeah. This whole confrontation, I guess, is this is why I like these sorts of bad guys are what irritate me the most. I think it's just because it's all about like bureaucratic and diplomatic and government and all these, you know, meaningless words.

Speaker 1:
[57:24] And like loopholes and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:
[57:26] But you can't even get me for a parking ticket, that kind of shit. It's like, oh, I can't wait to see this guy get shot in the fucking head, dude.

Speaker 3:
[57:33] There's also a point where it's like, yes, I can.

Speaker 1:
[57:36] Yeah, that's, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 3:
[57:38] Because if you break the law of the country that you're in, your diplomatic immunity, for lack of a better term, it's just been revoked.

Speaker 2:
[57:47] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[57:48] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[57:49] You're absolutely right. Like, yes, I can't come search you because you are diplomats of a foreign country, but you just committed a murder and we saw it. So I get to now come and investigate.

Speaker 3:
[58:01] We saw murder. We have reason. And that's actually a great note of, like, in the very beginning, when the car is flipped and they don't see the guy, but they hear something in the trunk and Riggs says, he must have crawled into the trunk. And Murtaugh is just like, I'll back you up. That's probable cause to kick the thing open. It's the same idea. It's like, anytime there's gonna be some probable cause, now, obviously they knew the guy wasn't in the trunk. It was just a ploy to say, we can open it now.

Speaker 1:
[58:30] This has been going on forever.

Speaker 3:
[58:31] But dude, yeah, you've been on this chase for how long and you have probable cause, it feels like.

Speaker 2:
[58:38] And these guys are armed.

Speaker 3:
[58:39] Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2:
[58:39] Like, where's your permits?

Speaker 3:
[58:40] If you're just consulate members, like, why do you have all these guns and like, and why are you counting all this money up in here too? I can see it through a window.

Speaker 1:
[58:52] And if these are rules, yeah, they can literally do whatever they want here, then those need to be changed.

Speaker 9:
[58:56] Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 1:
[58:57] We're so worried about people, illegal people coming across the border. It's like, maybe we should be more worried about South African consulate men who can do whatever the fuck they want with 50, $500 billion.

Speaker 2:
[59:08] Dug in bureaucratic bullshit. Like, yeah, undig them.

Speaker 3:
[59:13] Gold hoarding neo-Nazis that are just like, what is this?

Speaker 1:
[59:17] Diplomatic immunity.

Speaker 3:
[59:18] Friggin bridge under, troll under the bridge. What's going on here?

Speaker 2:
[59:22] It's just enough of a bad guy. It's just annoying enough and sort of like, against our good guys enough for you to care that these guys are the bad guys. What they're doing, don't really understand. Don't need to.

Speaker 1:
[59:35] It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:
[59:35] All you need is just like, him saying diplomatic. And you're like, oh. I mean, are we just going to do it? Like, punch them in the face?

Speaker 1:
[59:42] Yeah, I mean, if you want to do it, let's go ahead and do it.

Speaker 10:
[59:44] Hit it!

Speaker 2:
[59:45] If we were on a train to go punch a face, I'm on board.

Speaker 10:
[59:50] That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:
[59:51] It's just the way he says it, man. Like, I just.

Speaker 1:
[59:54] Josh Ackland, who was Hans in The First Mighty Ducks, by the way. I wish he would have gone back to living his quiet life with Gordon Bombay in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2:
[60:03] But he's the, like, he's the shop owner. No shit. OK, fuck me.

Speaker 1:
[60:08] He's the shop owner. There was going to be a fan theory there of how he goes. Come on, man.

Speaker 2:
[60:12] You'll do it.

Speaker 1:
[60:13] OK. So, Aaron, the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 2, survives this final hit. He's wearing a bowl-proof vest. And they know the country is like, well, we can't really. He's still South African diplomatic community stuff, you know, but like, let's just relocate him to the Twin Cities where he can pretend like he's a shop owner to eventually help Gordon Bombay bring District 5 to win the Pee Wee championships.

Speaker 3:
[60:38] Yes, of course.

Speaker 1:
[60:39] He pays attention to the newspaper a lot because he's making sure there's no weird stuff in the newspaper. He's the one that came up with the Oreo line and told the Hawks player.

Speaker 3:
[60:49] That's why he puts Oreos in the chili. And then they're just like, just teach him how to make eggs and house and pepper and then he'll be fine.

Speaker 1:
[60:57] No, that's young.

Speaker 3:
[60:59] Well, it's a family recipe, Michael.

Speaker 2:
[61:01] See, we can one, talk ourselves in anything, and two, we are just middle-aged men talking about a kids movie, which is so stupid.

Speaker 3:
[61:08] We are just the worst people.

Speaker 2:
[61:10] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[61:11] I think that are on the Internet right now. I don't know if you could get any worse than just three guys just talking about kids.

Speaker 2:
[61:19] We just can't let it be the movie.

Speaker 3:
[61:21] You know, it's like, you know, it's a movie, right? I don't know if it's not real. Well, we're here to discuss whether or not it is.

Speaker 1:
[61:30] My blood pressure is rising. I want to talk about punchable faces other than the fucking nerds on the Internet. We're talking badly about Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 3:
[61:39] Okay, fine.

Speaker 1:
[61:40] Sean, I'd like to say that it's every... I want to say it's the entire squad. Because this, like, the guy, the long-haired guy that eventually gets in the car door... Squarsh... .has got to be one of the worst-looking faces in this movie. But that whole crew is just so fucking annoying and dumb-looking. Like that whole organization needs punched, I think.

Speaker 3:
[62:00] The kind of main, like, main henchman guy, he's kind of mine. Because you're right, he has this, like, he looks like the combination of, like, three other movie stars.

Speaker 1:
[62:13] Tom Hardy.

Speaker 3:
[62:13] He just couldn't quite get it done. And like, yeah, he's like, he's basically a mix between Tom Hardy and whoever played JP in Grandma's Boy. Okay. And so, and then he dances around at the end there.

Speaker 1:
[62:25] It's kind of tight, dude.

Speaker 3:
[62:27] Whatever that fighting style is. Capoeira. Is that what it is?

Speaker 1:
[62:30] No, but it sure looks like it.

Speaker 3:
[62:31] Whatever it is, I'm just saying, you know.

Speaker 1:
[62:35] And he's British, right? Like, he's an English guy.

Speaker 3:
[62:37] I don't know what he is.

Speaker 1:
[62:38] He doesn't talk like a South African.

Speaker 3:
[62:39] No, he doesn't. I'm just saying, that guy is all over the place, man.

Speaker 9:
[62:44] K-pop demon hunters, Saja Boy's Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

Speaker 4:
[62:53] It's not a battle.

Speaker 7:
[62:54] So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share.

Speaker 9:
[63:00] No, it's our honor.

Speaker 7:
[63:02] It is our larger honor.

Speaker 4:
[63:03] No, really, stop.

Speaker 9:
[63:05] You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

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Speaker 1:
[63:56] Scene 3, after spending some more time with Leo, Murtaugh runs into a bad situation with his toilet. After that is diffused, Riggs starts pushing back hard, harassing the consulate and even romancing Rudd's secretary, Rika. You leaving us, Sean? Oh, he's getting a beer ski. Well, this is also the inclusion of the famous drive-through scene. Leo's absolutely right in this back in the day. You want to avoid fast food drive-throughs at all time back in the day.

Speaker 3:
[64:25] I think so.

Speaker 1:
[64:26] He's implying that they're doing it on purpose, which they don't do it on purpose, but he's right. The minute you drive away, you're not turning around and going back.

Speaker 3:
[64:34] No.

Speaker 1:
[64:34] Especially because you waited in a Taco Bell line at 1.30 in the morning on a Saturday for a half hour. You're not going to go back.

Speaker 3:
[64:40] But he's right. They do fuck you in the drive-through.

Speaker 1:
[64:42] They do fuck you.

Speaker 3:
[64:43] I mean, that's how they get you.

Speaker 1:
[64:45] Also, he is correct. I was a sandwich artist for two years back in high school, and you couldn't pay me to eat tuna or seafood and crab from Subway. If you guys do that stuff, I don't know what you're doing if that's an order that you make.

Speaker 2:
[64:58] I mean, why would you do that? It's either meatball or- Cheese steak. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:02] Or the old chicken patties when they were the frozen big chicken patty.

Speaker 3:
[65:05] I think my brother used to get the tuna from Subway all the time.

Speaker 1:
[65:09] What's the matter with him?

Speaker 3:
[65:10] I don't know. It's- Which brother? David. Yeah, he was the tuna guy.

Speaker 1:
[65:15] David, I just got to say, man, that ain't tuna. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:20] It ain't tuna.

Speaker 1:
[65:20] There's no fish in there.

Speaker 3:
[65:22] Well, that's probably why I like it.

Speaker 1:
[65:23] All right. All right.

Speaker 3:
[65:24] So I'm just saying.

Speaker 1:
[65:26] Leo is so great in that scene and he's also somehow so funny to me when he's cleaning Riggs's, the way he's like vacuuming Riggs's fucking mobile. I don't know, man. He's such a- Sean, you made a great point about they use him sporadically and when he's there, it's just enough and it's perfect and then they move on.

Speaker 2:
[65:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:45] So great.

Speaker 2:
[65:46] Because Lethal Weapon was a little darker than this, obviously because it was Riggs and Murtaugh, they still, throughout the movie, they became partners and then in this one, they are partners. Riggs is coming over all the time and we get that relationship. So it's a little lighter and I think that this movie or the story deserves that lightness to it. So to add this comedy stuff is warranted, I think, and works really well with Leo. But we get to, I think, the best scene of this movie.

Speaker 1:
[66:18] Sean, it's etched in my brain. That's all I think about. When I think of Lethal Weapon, the entire series, I think of the toilets.

Speaker 2:
[66:24] Whoever said that?

Speaker 1:
[66:25] Did somebody say that in the thing?

Speaker 3:
[66:27] It's like where this series probably does kind of peak as far as it goes, on multiple levels.

Speaker 1:
[66:35] I thought this was gonna be a bigger problem in life.

Speaker 3:
[66:37] Oh yeah, yeah. Bomb toilets?

Speaker 1:
[66:40] Somehow you just are stuck on a toilet for 12 hours because there's a bomb that's gonna go off.

Speaker 3:
[66:45] Have you ever sat on a toilet for just a little too long? It's like, man, it just needed to... Yeah, see, there you go. It happens all the time.

Speaker 1:
[66:53] He's too old for this shit.

Speaker 3:
[66:55] Oh, maybe that...

Speaker 2:
[66:57] Yeah, you just like...

Speaker 3:
[66:58] There he goes.

Speaker 2:
[67:00] It was there, but he took it.

Speaker 3:
[67:02] He did. He did. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:05] He said it, right?

Speaker 3:
[67:06] You know?

Speaker 1:
[67:07] But hold on.

Speaker 2:
[67:07] We reported that.

Speaker 1:
[67:08] There's so many questions about this. He did actually make it far enough to have a full-blown shit in the toilet that did not get flushed.

Speaker 2:
[67:18] Maybe a couple.

Speaker 1:
[67:20] Yes, because he shat and then reached for the toilet paper to then find out that he's fucked. Game over, if you will. Game over on the toilet paper. I'm going to write that in there. Holy shit. Dude. Dude, let's go write game over on the toilet paper and then roll it back.

Speaker 3:
[67:38] Let's do it a bunch of times on the roll and then you just roll it back. So it just keeps happening randomly over and over again.

Speaker 1:
[67:46] But nobody talks about the fact that there is probably shit in that toilet that now he's afraid to flush.

Speaker 3:
[67:52] No, I think he flushed it.

Speaker 1:
[67:54] You think that he was a multiple flusher before he went for the wipe?

Speaker 3:
[67:58] I think he flushed.

Speaker 2:
[67:59] Would you be brave enough to try the flusher?

Speaker 1:
[68:02] Well, I... After knowing the bomb was there, I wouldn't touch it.

Speaker 3:
[68:06] I feel like he probably saw the thing and was like, I'm going to be stuck here for a while. Just to make sure. It's like, you know...

Speaker 2:
[68:15] Something all of us have said.

Speaker 1:
[68:17] But his family is gone and they are not coming back. The only reason that generally flushes for the courtesy of other people. I don't care about my own smell.

Speaker 2:
[68:26] I don't want to walk back in there and be like, what the fuck was I thinking?

Speaker 3:
[68:29] I don't like...

Speaker 2:
[68:30] I am ugly.

Speaker 3:
[68:31] There is a point...

Speaker 2:
[68:32] Hey. I mean, I shit and I'm ugly.

Speaker 1:
[68:35] I mean, your body is working good.

Speaker 3:
[68:37] Yeah. All right. Just means it was a good, hearty...

Speaker 2:
[68:39] Thank you, guys...

Speaker 3:
[68:40] .Tuesday. And that's fine. Hey, I like to think that he made it through the flush. He doesn't want to sit and wallow in this. He's already embarrassed enough that you got to have like, you know, hey, Riggs, keep it quiet.

Speaker 1:
[68:54] What is the greatest cuts in movie history?

Speaker 3:
[68:56] Hardcore John Hughes hit.

Speaker 1:
[68:59] It's like there's something about Mary. It's like, we got to bleed her out!

Speaker 2:
[69:01] Yes, exactly, exactly. Dude, I love even the intro to it because he comes in with his gun pointed and he's like, where are you at? And he's like, Riggs, I'm up here. And he gets up there. He comes behind the door. He's like, good morning.

Speaker 3:
[69:14] Morning.

Speaker 2:
[69:15] Like, what's going on?

Speaker 1:
[69:17] What are you doing, man?

Speaker 3:
[69:18] How are we this morning?

Speaker 1:
[69:18] He looks so scared.

Speaker 3:
[69:20] He's like, first time I've had the bathroom myself. No wife telling me to move on, no kids coming and asking for me.

Speaker 1:
[69:26] Reading the edition of...

Speaker 3:
[69:28] First thing, this man just loves his fishing and his boats. You know what I mean? And like...

Speaker 1:
[69:33] Good man.

Speaker 3:
[69:34] It's just, that's his pastime. He's passionate about it. He's excited about his man cave and two car garage that's being built so he can have this boat, you know.

Speaker 1:
[69:44] I never understood these feelings in movies until I did have kids and was married.

Speaker 3:
[69:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:49] Of the like, the precious moments. Yes. Of just taking a shit where no one's there.

Speaker 3:
[69:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:55] Just looking at-

Speaker 2:
[69:55] Precious moment. Looking at, I got this app vocabulary. I'm just like learning new words. That's what I do on there.

Speaker 1:
[70:03] And so you're like, this is so great.

Speaker 2:
[70:04] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[70:05] Yeah. It's great. That's- Sponsors. Sponsors.

Speaker 1:
[70:09] So AJ, how is this the solution, though? Like, we've got an LA bomb squad that cannot fucking diffuse this thing?

Speaker 2:
[70:17] By the way, pun intended, I guess. What a shitty way to kill somebody. Like, you pick this. You pick- I'm gonna bank on he's gonna take a shit today, one. Two, that's the way you try and kill- like, that's- it's just, like, cruel. It's very, like- It's very- not like, I'm trying to get rid of this guy just quick, you know? Because I just don't want him around. He's fucking up my shit.

Speaker 3:
[70:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:43] That's, like- I killed a guy on the shitter.

Speaker 3:
[70:46] And by the way-

Speaker 2:
[70:47] Fuck you.

Speaker 3:
[70:48] Yeah. It's pretty damn heartless. Yeah. You know? It's pretty heartless. And the idea is that Murtaugh- I'm banking on Murtaugh taking a dump that day.

Speaker 1:
[71:02] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[71:02] What if it was his wife?

Speaker 1:
[71:04] They don't care.

Speaker 3:
[71:05] What if- you know, I know he doesn't care, but the idea is to get Murtaugh, not his wife.

Speaker 1:
[71:10] Now you pissed him off. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[71:12] Well, it's just- so then your plan is gone. Your plan is a rye. And to be honest, a lot of the deaths that happened, a lot of the hits that happened to this are just, you know, they're pretty heartless.

Speaker 2:
[71:27] The diving board one.

Speaker 1:
[71:29] That might be my favorite explosion in movie history. That dummy going, ah!

Speaker 3:
[71:36] There's your Mentos commercial right there. Just saying.

Speaker 5:
[71:41] Mentos are not over come.

Speaker 1:
[71:45] But like I said, I mean, how are they not, how can they not defuse this bomb? How is the solution to have them jump into an old tub and put a bomb blanket over them? With, by the way, they don't give them helmets. They don't give them earplugs. This is, they're fucked after this. Yeah. Just from that explosion, they won't hear for the rest of their lives. True.

Speaker 3:
[72:08] I just think it is funny. It's like I was saying earlier, it's like he gets stuck on the toilet for just too long and your legs just aren't working right, that you can't get up off, jump off the toilet. It can't. Yeah, he's been sitting there for, imagine being there for 12 hours. You aren't, you don't feel your legs.

Speaker 1:
[72:23] I would consider just getting up just to die.

Speaker 2:
[72:25] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[72:25] At that point.

Speaker 3:
[72:26] I'd be like-

Speaker 2:
[72:26] The crossword's already finished.

Speaker 3:
[72:28] I mean-

Speaker 2:
[72:28] You know, I just forgot to throw it away.

Speaker 3:
[72:31] The worst part about this is having to sit there after this thing has happened and then having to deal with the blood going back into your legs and feeling the tingles and the, you know, the little pricklies.

Speaker 2:
[72:43] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[72:43] And, and yeah. Like-

Speaker 2:
[72:46] The temptation to get up.

Speaker 3:
[72:47] Oh my God. I just- That might be the worst part of it all, to be honest.

Speaker 1:
[72:52] And the through line of that station wagon just getting demolished throughout the movie. The toilet lands on the station wagon.

Speaker 2:
[72:58] Of all the vehicles outside of his house.

Speaker 3:
[73:00] Maybe don't buy such a shitty vehicle. Got him, right?

Speaker 2:
[73:07] I love- I love the- when the bomb squad guy is like, Riggs, we gotta go. It's time. You gotta go. And he's like, I'm not going. And he just looks at him. The way he looks at him is just like, it's my fucking friend.

Speaker 3:
[73:22] Yeah. There wasn't any explanation about it.

Speaker 2:
[73:26] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[73:26] He's like only looking at Murtaugh. And then he says, we gotta go now. And he just looks at him.

Speaker 2:
[73:33] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[73:33] It's like, I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to find a way to tell you to get out of this room, am I? And he just realizes it.

Speaker 2:
[73:40] If someone was like, you should leave the room while we put your dog down.

Speaker 3:
[73:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[73:43] Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 3:
[73:46] So somebody did that. Somebody did that to when like my childhood dog. And they said, you should leave the room. It's easier for them because they aren't trying to hold. You know, and like I believed him at one point. And then I was just like, that's the worst fucking decision ever.

Speaker 1:
[74:02] Leaving the room?

Speaker 3:
[74:02] Yeah, leaving the room.

Speaker 1:
[74:03] You left the room?

Speaker 3:
[74:04] Yeah, we had to. Like the vet like asked us to leave.

Speaker 1:
[74:08] Get a new vet.

Speaker 3:
[74:09] I know.

Speaker 1:
[74:11] What the?

Speaker 3:
[74:12] Oh, I know. And then like so we and we've we've had a dog we had to put down and they they like made it like a moment for us.

Speaker 1:
[74:19] That's what happened when you hold on as long as, you know, Sergeant Mallonstein was the it was the saddest thing I've ever done in my entire life. But yet somehow it was like the thing I'll hold on to for the rest of my life was being able to be there.

Speaker 3:
[74:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:33] And I as the pain fades a little bit, you're like, I'm just so glad I was able to be there.

Speaker 3:
[74:38] Yeah. And like I was I was like, I was coming back and it's just and I wish I would have had the wherewithal to say like, no, I'm just staying here. But like even my parents left and like, so I just thought it was the right thing to do. I don't believe that anymore because it sucks.

Speaker 2:
[74:57] He's like, guys like you don't die on the toilet. But this is like this is like a reiteration in like the culmination and like the best representation in a scene of these guys' relationship.

Speaker 3:
[75:07] Correct.

Speaker 2:
[75:08] Because he even looks at Riggs. He's like, I know, man, we're tough guy cops. You don't say I love you. But me too. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[75:16] And the way he says it is like, guys like you don't die on the toilet. We don't die like this. This isn't how we're going out. And it's kind of the nice thing because it's the opposite of the I'm too old for this shit mentality. You know what I mean? And so it's just like nice reminder. It's a nice way to that they represent their bond that they've that they've built. And if kind of the if you are going down somehow, then I'm going with you.

Speaker 2:
[75:46] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[75:47] Well, and then obviously you get to what I thought was an incredible scene. You get to the bank, the South African Bank or something like that. And Murtaugh goes in there. By the way, that's Jim Piddick. He was the announcer in Best in Show, the straight man.

Speaker 2:
[76:00] Oh, nice.

Speaker 1:
[76:01] He's so good. He's such a versatile guy, but I love Pesci bringing in the black man into South African Bank and how kind of amped up Murtaugh gets on this whole thing. It's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[76:14] I love this scene.

Speaker 3:
[76:14] My friend, he wants to go. He's like, you gotta help me talk. You gotta help me talk him out of it. It's like, why would I talk him out of it? It's like, oh, it's Sully or whatever he is in here. He's like, ugh, but you're black. The way that they're laughing about it afterwards is maybe the best part and is what makes Joe Pesci such an amazing addition to this guy. These guys are buddy cop. That's what these guys are. But the lightheartedness of Joe Pesci like is squeezing in between them when he can is just what makes this so golden.

Speaker 2:
[76:53] It brings them closer together.

Speaker 3:
[76:54] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2:
[76:58] Before I knew that they were more racist people, I was like, their logo looks like the Iron Eagle, Nazi logo or whatever, and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 1:
[77:06] Oh, wait, that's what it was. Yeah. You don't really tend to get it in this movie until about now is when you start really realizing the racism involved.

Speaker 3:
[77:15] Then you start to realize it's like, oh, this is all happening because these assholes are just like the cream of the crop, like racist.

Speaker 2:
[77:24] When he walks in their office, he's like, well, well, it's the master race.

Speaker 1:
[77:28] Calls Aaron Arian or whatever your name is.

Speaker 3:
[77:30] Yeah, Arian or whatever your name is.

Speaker 1:
[77:31] Shooting the fucking fish tank was so great.

Speaker 3:
[77:33] Pick them up with your hands.

Speaker 1:
[77:34] Pick them up with your hands.

Speaker 2:
[77:36] I love when he is driving around and with them. Oh, God. Like he gives him that look.

Speaker 1:
[77:43] Just unhinged.

Speaker 2:
[77:44] I fucking love it.

Speaker 3:
[77:45] We get the best Riggs looks in this Lethal Weapon.

Speaker 1:
[77:48] This is the best Riggs.

Speaker 3:
[77:49] Yeah, you think so? Dude, that might be a good call.

Speaker 1:
[77:53] It's interesting about, I think Riggs, interestingly enough, Mel Gibson, I think if they would have done a Christopher Nolan Dark Knight back when they did the Burton movies, I think Mel Gibson could have been Joker.

Speaker 3:
[78:08] Joker.

Speaker 1:
[78:08] His unhinged nature in this movie. Mel Gibson is unreal as an actor. He's so good and it sucks because who Mel Gibson is, I mean, it sucks to go back to these movies, be like, I love Mel Gibson because he's just, man, if you listen to Howard Stern like I did, they went off on Mel Gibson for a year with those voicemails that he was leaving his wife and the recordings of like, blow me, Mel Gibson is a piece of shit. He is one of the worst humans to ever live, but my God, is this man an actor.

Speaker 3:
[78:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[78:45] And he's so fucking good in this movie.

Speaker 3:
[78:47] As we might find out. He was on Joe Rogan, you know.

Speaker 1:
[78:50] Was he?

Speaker 3:
[78:50] Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2:
[78:52] I'll have anybody on. I'll talk to anybody.

Speaker 3:
[78:54] Hey, he wasn't in the Epstein files. All right.

Speaker 1:
[78:57] The man is a terrible person and weird. He was fighting racists in this movie and he's a pretty big racist.

Speaker 2:
[79:02] Yeah. Master race, huh?

Speaker 3:
[79:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[79:08] Hey, Hollywood changes people, all right?

Speaker 2:
[79:10] It really does. Yeah. They kind of forgave him for when he did Hacksaw Ridge, but then he fell off a cliff again.

Speaker 1:
[79:16] Listen, I saw Science. I loved it.

Speaker 2:
[79:18] That's great. He's a good director, as we might find out when we do Braveheart.

Speaker 1:
[79:21] Oh, when we do Passion of the Christ?

Speaker 2:
[79:22] We do Braveheart. That's fiction.

Speaker 3:
[79:25] Hacksaw Ridge fell off a cliff again. Great. Good.

Speaker 2:
[79:28] Thank you. I really worked hard.

Speaker 3:
[79:29] That was a good one.

Speaker 1:
[79:30] Scene four. Aaron's crew begins systematically killing anyone, investigating them. Leo's kidnapped. Murtaugh fights them off. And Riggs and Rika escape a helicopter attack, but they eventually capture them and kill Rika. We talked about the pool dummy flying through the air. Unreal. That is Jeanette Goldstein, who we must point out, we must point out, was Vasquez in Aliens and Janelle in T2. We got to point that out for the friends out there.

Speaker 2:
[79:57] She's one of the goats.

Speaker 1:
[79:58] Looking pretty good in that swimsuit too, that one piece. She looking good.

Speaker 3:
[80:00] She working it.

Speaker 1:
[80:01] She working it. She getting her laps in every day?

Speaker 3:
[80:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[80:04] I'm going to have to ask...

Speaker 3:
[80:06] It's a swimmer, it shows. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:
[80:10] The person we had on the show who I really love. Jean Lajoie.

Speaker 1:
[80:13] One of my biggest idols, I can't remember his name.

Speaker 2:
[80:15] Yeah, like fucking Quentin?

Speaker 1:
[80:18] Quentin.

Speaker 2:
[80:20] If she smells good, that's all I was going to say. That's really all I was going to say.

Speaker 1:
[80:23] Yeah, kind of a weird comment.

Speaker 2:
[80:25] It is, it is. That's how they said it. I'm glad.

Speaker 1:
[80:28] Sean, did you get slasher movie vibes a little bit in this? Like when Murtaugh backs up against the Saran wrap? That's a Halloween Friday the 13th kill.

Speaker 2:
[80:38] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[80:39] Like slasher vibes to the nines.

Speaker 2:
[80:41] Because it's like a jump scare, too. He backs up and then the guy comes after him, right?

Speaker 1:
[80:45] And punches through it. It feels like Michael Myers is reaching through a window to kill somebody.

Speaker 3:
[80:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[80:51] Beautiful moment. Covered up in a blanket. Yeah. And shoots him with a nail gun. The nail gun comes back.

Speaker 3:
[80:56] There we go. Great reference there, right? It's just a perfect callback. This is, again, they're doing such a great job of giving the subtleties of the little bit of context and here and there. Because he even says, yeah, sent the kids and wife up to their sisters or whatever, and even gave the carpenter guide the week off. So he's not there or anything. And so you just get those little pieces, but he was going to come back for his nail gun.

Speaker 2:
[81:26] You would think.

Speaker 3:
[81:27] I would think so. You come back for a nail gun like that.

Speaker 1:
[81:29] That's police evidence now.

Speaker 3:
[81:31] Oh, shit.

Speaker 2:
[81:33] You fucked up. The whole shootout at the beach with them. Well, first of all, I guess they were both married at this time. The lovemaking scene. Were they? Well, what's your name? I can't remember her name. Mel Gibson. They were both married, so it was very awkward for them. And apparently she says, well, at least I wanted to see his dick and balls for real life. I'm like, but you said you were married. I don't know. It was a weird interview.

Speaker 1:
[81:57] She's saying, but they got to see my, I'm assuming vagina. It was the late 80s. Saw my boobs in my vagina.

Speaker 2:
[82:02] Very true. Late 80s.

Speaker 1:
[82:03] I think they actually did penetration on scenes.

Speaker 2:
[82:06] Oh yeah, they had to for contracts.

Speaker 1:
[82:08] They're like, well, we have to do this. We have to make it real. How else would you believe it?

Speaker 3:
[82:12] Like, look, we're doing everything else. Everything else is practical effects, all right? I think it would be the most practical thing to just go ahead and, you know.

Speaker 1:
[82:21] Yeah, just go ahead and do it.

Speaker 2:
[82:22] Take note, Nolan.

Speaker 3:
[82:24] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[82:25] I believe this. We just talked about Wayne's World. We talked about Mike Myers and Tia Carrera. Like, there's no chemistry there. There's chemistry here between these guys. And I love her. It's truthfully brutal to me that she dies.

Speaker 2:
[82:40] It's bad.

Speaker 1:
[82:41] Like, and I don't know why I care so much about her. I know nothing about her.

Speaker 2:
[82:44] She's just so sweet.

Speaker 1:
[82:45] She's just a sweetheart. And she's just trying to make it in LA, taking whatever job she can. And it's fucking brutal when you see her dead in that. It is. Kind of wish that alternate ending would have been there where maybe she does, he saves her, and she's now a part of the family.

Speaker 3:
[83:00] Right.

Speaker 1:
[83:01] And they've got a bit of a happy ending. But, Ouch.

Speaker 3:
[83:05] You do. You really want that. But the fact that you don't get it is what makes it so impactful.

Speaker 1:
[83:12] He finally found somebody, bud.

Speaker 3:
[83:14] Yeah. And that's the big thing, too. It's like you almost love her so much because Riggs found her. And it's like when your buddy gets like a girlfriend and it's like, no, she is cool. I'm glad she's not like some weirdo.

Speaker 1:
[83:28] I wouldn't mind having her hang around.

Speaker 3:
[83:30] It's like, you know, I'm really stoked for this, actually. This is, this is, this is great stuff.

Speaker 2:
[83:34] She died? Go to a baseball game or something.

Speaker 3:
[83:37] She just seems like one of the guys, you know? Like she like, she comes over, she ate his chili with the Oreos even, man. Like she thought that was a joke until he whipped him out. But man, she's just, she can eat wings and drink beer.

Speaker 2:
[83:50] She's got a DraftKings account.

Speaker 3:
[83:51] Dude, dude, I'm saying like, she's legit. She, she gave me a referral code.

Speaker 1:
[83:57] So like, she got killed by South African racists.

Speaker 2:
[84:01] So excuse me, when, what did you say?

Speaker 1:
[84:03] She's at the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 2:
[84:05] Well, why? Drowned? Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[84:07] She's, she's white.

Speaker 1:
[84:09] She fell off a cliff. She's dead.

Speaker 3:
[84:11] Why the racists?

Speaker 2:
[84:12] What happened to that girlfriend of yours?

Speaker 3:
[84:13] Why'd the racists kill the-

Speaker 1:
[84:15] It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:
[84:16] But she was perfect in their eyes.

Speaker 3:
[84:19] In their eyes.

Speaker 1:
[84:22] She was perfect. She was of the master race. Oh, she's a woman.

Speaker 3:
[84:26] If we can't have her, no one can.

Speaker 1:
[84:29] You can suspend your disbelief on this even more, too, because there is no surviving this helicopter attack.

Speaker 2:
[84:35] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[84:36] There is just like, they not only took two different helicopters with automatic weapons to just destroy that thing-

Speaker 2:
[84:42] Two helicopters.

Speaker 1:
[84:43] Yes. Then they got on the ground and walked around and started shooting it. And somehow her running to the truck was not a- We were all reloading at the same time. We didn't see it.

Speaker 3:
[84:54] The lights over here and our eyes didn't really adjust for the darkness over here where she was going to the truck.

Speaker 2:
[84:59] You played video games?

Speaker 3:
[85:00] It's like, you know, she opened the truck door and like those lights popped on, right? Like that's just the way cars are.

Speaker 1:
[85:05] Not old cars.

Speaker 3:
[85:06] Oh, well, no, no. Yeah, the old cars, no, they were notorious for it. And they were notorious for blowing up too when you started them.

Speaker 1:
[85:14] And-

Speaker 2:
[85:14] It's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[85:15] NL, super weird.

Speaker 1:
[85:16] And they make the note to show that somehow a glass gets knocked over and starts the fire. Does that mean they were drinking like 151 or something like that?

Speaker 2:
[85:28] Because that's all he has.

Speaker 1:
[85:31] You have to be over, what, like 105 proof or something like that to like be flammable.

Speaker 3:
[85:36] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:37] So I just like that they took the time to show that like, watch, this glass fell over and started a fire.

Speaker 2:
[85:44] I hope you like jet fuel.

Speaker 3:
[85:45] That's all I got. Can I get you something? Water or jet fuel?

Speaker 2:
[85:51] Well, they're driving away and the whole action scene happens. They both survive or whatever and he's like, so what are you doing Saturday?

Speaker 3:
[85:56] Yeah, I know. Well, and by the way- He's in love, man. Okay. This all happens. The last thing you do is take her back to her place.

Speaker 2:
[86:04] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[86:05] You take her to the station. You take her to anywhere else. Why on earth would you think that this is the play?

Speaker 2:
[86:14] I couldn't remember. I thought they were setting us up because we've seen so many bombs go off and so many unnecessary locations. She was just going to open the door and boom.

Speaker 1:
[86:23] Now, I guess they're not actually in the apartment to capture her. They were just following them. But at the same time, just stay together.

Speaker 3:
[86:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[86:31] You found a good one.

Speaker 3:
[86:32] Stay together.

Speaker 1:
[86:33] You found a real good one. Let's keep her. It's not like you just found somebody at a grocery store and you're in love with them now. It's like, no, she has intimate knowledge of the bad people. Yeah. She filled out a W-2 for taxes. Yeah. They know her address.

Speaker 3:
[86:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[86:49] That's where her paycheck gets sent.

Speaker 3:
[86:51] Yeah. They've got her information. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[86:54] It'll be great for even our show. If she survived, then we could maybe interview her and be like, so what does the W-2 look like for goons?

Speaker 1:
[87:01] Do they tax your earnings or is there some sort of diplomatic immunity from taxes?

Speaker 2:
[87:07] Is there wage garnishing?

Speaker 1:
[87:11] Do they have good 401K plans?

Speaker 2:
[87:13] I want to know.

Speaker 3:
[87:14] Dude, the goon temp agency bit is the greatest thing that might have ever come out of this show. A temp agency specifically for goons to work for goons. Hey, we just need more goons. It's LA. We need lots of goons.

Speaker 1:
[87:30] We just went to the wrong place. She's like, I'll take anything. They're like, well, this is like a goon thing.

Speaker 3:
[87:34] You just seem too nice for...

Speaker 1:
[87:36] Good?

Speaker 3:
[87:37] It's like, look, I've been in town for three weeks. I'm almost already out of money. Okay, I got to have something. All right, all right. Well, we got these South African guys. Oh. And I believe they actually pay most of their wages in gold. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[87:53] I mean, unbelievable. I picked a better spot.

Speaker 3:
[87:55] Yeah. So as long as you're good with money laundering, murder and lots of explosives, you're good.

Speaker 2:
[88:04] LA. This is LA.

Speaker 3:
[88:05] Here we are. We're done, son. Yeah. My favorite thing about this, though, is how they take out Riggs outside the house. Like they knock him. But then you see the dog kind of pop up. And he's just like, okay.

Speaker 1:
[88:24] I forgot that you see the dog at the end. I thought for sure that like the dog never reappeared. But now you see him on the beach later on. I'm like, thank God.

Speaker 3:
[88:31] I know.

Speaker 1:
[88:31] Don't fuck with this dog.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
[88:35] Sam is a good boy.

Speaker 1:
[88:36] Sam understands you don't fuck with these people right now. You hide, you live another day.

Speaker 3:
[88:41] Yeah. It's like he's got his own plot and plan to make. He's got the shifty eyes, the shifty dog eyes, but he's going to lay low for now.

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Speaker 1:
[90:18] Final scene, Riggs and Murtaugh essentially abandon protocol, destroy Rude's house, rescue Leo and go rogue. Riggs and Murtaugh single-handedly take down all of Arden's crew, foiling the plan and saving the day. I'm not a structural guy. I don't know much about cars, but I don't think that a truck can pull the steel girder from a house.

Speaker 2:
[90:42] From the margin of the New York.

Speaker 1:
[90:45] I've checked specs on rotary girders before. I don't think he can do that.

Speaker 2:
[90:50] You put your meter to him or something? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[90:53] I built a plague house the other day, so I know a lot about stuff.

Speaker 2:
[90:57] You know about structural integrity.

Speaker 1:
[90:59] I just don't think it's possible, but I also don't care because I've been watching this movie from the start and I just love how just, he's like, fuck it.

Speaker 2:
[91:07] Yeah. I mean, you have to believe at this point, because we're watching this movie and we've seen so many quote unquote unbelievable things that you're just like, it's the truck power and his rage power.

Speaker 1:
[91:17] It's like, there it is.

Speaker 3:
[91:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[91:18] It's he somehow is able to get more torque out of the truck than a normal guy because he's got rage.

Speaker 2:
[91:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[91:24] It's like he poured a thing of liquid Schwartz into it, but it was liquid rage.

Speaker 2:
[91:28] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[91:29] And that's what got into the tank. And you're right. He's just so rageful.

Speaker 1:
[91:33] He brought his hat down. You know he's serious.

Speaker 3:
[91:35] He's like, they killed her. They killed her, Rod. They killed her. They killed both of them. They killed them both. And he's talking about his wife, but he's talking about Riggs.

Speaker 1:
[91:42] Murtaugh has no clue what he's talking about.

Speaker 3:
[91:44] And he's like Ron Burgundy in a glass case of emotion. He's just like, would you just please take a second? But no, that moment is so, so good. You know what? That's a Ford 350 Power Stroke. I think it could do it, man. I think it could do it.

Speaker 1:
[92:04] All right, I'm fine with it. I just want to mention. I just don't think that can happen.

Speaker 2:
[92:07] And I'm happy that it's for real. They built this, I mean, obviously, it's kind of like a facade.

Speaker 1:
[92:12] Of course.

Speaker 2:
[92:13] A lot of it's balsa wood or something, I imagine. But at least we see it on camera, and it's fucking sick as hell.

Speaker 1:
[92:19] It's so good, man.

Speaker 3:
[92:21] This is also one of those peak moments that I think about all the time when I think about the Lethal Weapon movies, is him pulling those stilts out.

Speaker 1:
[92:29] How excited he is, jumping in the air, that he did it.

Speaker 3:
[92:32] Yes, he's so jazzed. And Leo and Murtaugh, were they in the house?

Speaker 1:
[92:41] They got out. They were inside the house, but he didn't take care to think if they had made it. He's like, we're just gonna pull this down.

Speaker 3:
[92:46] And at first, we're like, oh, Riggs, you crazy son of a bitch. And then they're out there just like, dude, that was awesome, man. That was so cool. It's like Tommy Boy, where he's just, that was awesome. Sorry about your house, though, man.

Speaker 2:
[93:02] It sucks. Beautiful, beautiful house. Leo Getz, kind of his final send off here too, he's like, can I put the siren on when I go back? He's like, fine. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[93:14] He's like, you bet.

Speaker 1:
[93:14] Yeah, you're right, he disappears after that. He's gone.

Speaker 3:
[93:16] Yeah, he's like, oh, really? Really, I can do it? It's just like, yep, you can do it, man. You do you, all right? Just get out of here.

Speaker 1:
[93:23] And they do go into that container then in the shipyard. And like, I did have to look, is there such a thing as $1,000 bills? I thought they were fucking with them. But from 1861 to 1934, they made $1,000 bills featured President Grover Cleveland.

Speaker 3:
[93:39] That's right.

Speaker 1:
[93:40] And they made them essentially for large transfers of money from like bank to bank kind of a thing. In 69, they announced the discontinuation of them and didn't have them circulating anymore, but they're still legal tender and are very rare. Banks are required to send any of them that they received for destruction. So if you had one, you can take it to the bank and they'll give you $1,000, but then they will destroy the bill.

Speaker 2:
[94:05] Why? Wow.

Speaker 1:
[94:07] You would think nowadays we need it more than ever, like even higher things of denomination.

Speaker 3:
[94:12] They got rid of the penny, so like...

Speaker 1:
[94:14] That means we got room for the thousand.

Speaker 3:
[94:15] We got room for a $1,000 bill.

Speaker 1:
[94:17] Move some decimals.

Speaker 2:
[94:17] Couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[94:22] I used to keep change back when we had cash, and I used to put it in a giant jar so that every time we went on a trip, I would take it somewhere and have like $500 of spending money on a vacation. Now, anytime somebody's like, do you want this? I'm like, no.

Speaker 3:
[94:36] No, I don't.

Speaker 1:
[94:37] take that. No. Don't give that to me. Would you like to donate your extra seven cents to a snarfing for dollars? No, I don't.

Speaker 3:
[94:46] No, I don't. I don't want to cover your tax write-off, okay? Please, I'm not contributing to it. If you had an old peanut butter, plastic peanut butter jar with a picture of a kid who said, hey, would you like to donate? I'd give you $20 into that, but I'm not paying your tax write-off, okay?

Speaker 1:
[95:08] So that you can look awesome.

Speaker 3:
[95:09] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[95:09] Do you want to give any of your nickels to Diving for Ibis, perhaps?

Speaker 1:
[95:13] How do you remember that? Holy shit, what a poll, dude.

Speaker 3:
[95:17] That's a hell of a poll.

Speaker 1:
[95:18] How did you pull that?

Speaker 2:
[95:19] I'm a good listener.

Speaker 3:
[95:19] He's a good listener. He is. Hey, he may be a professional talker. He's also a professional listener.

Speaker 1:
[95:25] All right. Well, you're also a professional movie watcher. So tell me how in the world this truck drives out of the cargo ship exploding. What makes this truck explode driving out of the sea?

Speaker 3:
[95:36] Well, he's that rage, man.

Speaker 2:
[95:37] Me being a movie expert, they have some special- Okay, okay, okay. So they have special cannons right there. Much like Desperado where they just had the LP tanks blow up behind them. It dissipates very fast. So they just had those in there.

Speaker 1:
[95:52] That's all I wanted.

Speaker 3:
[95:53] Yeah, perfect. I thought this is pretty great. Guys, I have always thought that shipping containers were going to be a bigger problem in my life.

Speaker 1:
[96:03] Yeah. They made a house out of shipping containers here in Cedar Rapids. I sold it and I was nervous the whole time I was inside of it.

Speaker 3:
[96:09] I can't imagine you wouldn't feel claustrophobic, but at the same time, I see that stuff all the time on the Internet and I want to build houses.

Speaker 1:
[96:15] It was awesome. It was incredible. Way ahead of its time in Cedar Rapids. People were like, what? You can't do that. And then in about 10 years, they'll be like, we have a whole development of cargo containers. It's the coolest thing.

Speaker 3:
[96:25] When the day comes that I have like whatever tiny plot of land that is just mine someday, right? I'll get there. I'm going to build a container house on it. That's what I'll do.

Speaker 2:
[96:34] And then fantasy life when you're widowed and like, yeah, everything has gone to shit or whatever.

Speaker 3:
[96:39] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[96:40] You just have one.

Speaker 1:
[96:40] It's got to be near a body of water. You have to be able to longingly stare out over the body of water.

Speaker 2:
[96:45] It would be Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 3:
[96:46] Nice. C&Dubs. Anyways, guys, back to change. Why haven't they figured out to not ring it up for pennies to be included? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:
[96:55] What's a better kill? Are Tom Hardy at wish.com, Tom Hardy here with the thing falling on it or the diplomatic community are getting finally his demise?

Speaker 2:
[97:05] It's got to be diplomatic community. I mean, it's just such an iconic line.

Speaker 3:
[97:08] Well, and the fact that it was Roger that did it is, because Roger is the one who's a little bit more of a straight laced. Yeah. He's the straight cop where Riggs is the loose cannon. So it's good that it's great because he's the one who did it.

Speaker 2:
[97:27] But also, yes, you're right. I was going to say, what the fuck, Mike? But no, you're right.

Speaker 1:
[97:32] He's the black guy. This guy's been holding up his stupid little fucking card for 10 years going, I'm racist.

Speaker 2:
[97:42] I wear these suits so you don't see all my tattoos that say fuck your kind of people.

Speaker 1:
[97:47] And finally, somebody, like it doesn't work. Someone kills him. But this is a little interesting, right? Because like, you can't just be like, we're not cops for tonight.

Speaker 3:
[97:58] I love that line, though. I'm not a cop tonight, Raj. I'm not a cop.

Speaker 1:
[98:01] I love it. And I love the sentiment of it.

Speaker 3:
[98:03] God, so good.

Speaker 1:
[98:03] But like, no, you are, you are a cop. And a lot of people just got killed. Mega destruction in Long Beach shipping port. That's gonna cause some big problems. You killed, albeit a piece of shit, you killed a diplomat from South America. And all of his workers, a woman is dead. A lot of the cop force is dead. They're just like, next time, you drive.

Speaker 3:
[98:32] Next time, you drive.

Speaker 1:
[98:33] This is not a happy ending.

Speaker 3:
[98:35] No, it's not a happy ending. I mean, it's a, it's an ending to, that is, like, we're happy it's resolved.

Speaker 1:
[98:43] These guys are fucked.

Speaker 3:
[98:44] But this is a-

Speaker 1:
[98:44] They destroyed a house?

Speaker 2:
[98:47] Paperwork later, man. Fuck, I mean, like-

Speaker 1:
[98:50] It's okay. We put our badges in the car. We didn't bring them with us.

Speaker 2:
[98:53] Technically, we weren't, we were off the clock.

Speaker 3:
[98:56] Yeah, we were off duty.

Speaker 2:
[98:59] This is just our extracurricular stuff. And we happened to kill some bad guys. So yes, killing is bad, and we can't do that while we don't have badges on, but are we going to miss them? Yes, there's going to be lots of paperwork, and we're going to have to deal with South African whatever-

Speaker 1:
[99:16] They're still coming.

Speaker 2:
[99:17] Coming down on us.

Speaker 3:
[99:18] Look, guys, okay, first off, they've killed a bunch of cops, and I believe they have the proof of such things.

Speaker 1:
[99:24] I don't think they do. Everyone's dead to confirm now. Who did the shit?

Speaker 3:
[99:28] Please, please.

Speaker 2:
[99:30] There's some ballistics experts who can see the bomb at Murtaugh's house and compare them with the bomb.

Speaker 1:
[99:36] They couldn't even figure out who did the bomb at his house.

Speaker 3:
[99:38] So let's just continue on with the idea that, oh, you killed a South African. South Africa ain't coming for us. Are you kidding?

Speaker 2:
[99:49] It's the US of A.

Speaker 3:
[99:50] It's the US of A. Come on. Oh, they're going to take their old shipping routes to bring it, come on over? What the hell?

Speaker 1:
[99:59] That means they got to go around South America.

Speaker 3:
[100:02] They got to go around the horn. They got to go over. They ain't doing that.

Speaker 2:
[100:06] They're not doing that.

Speaker 3:
[100:07] They ain't going through the Panama Canal.

Speaker 1:
[100:09] Sorry, I brought it up.

Speaker 3:
[100:10] Okay, to come and get us. They ain't doing it, brother.

Speaker 1:
[100:14] I'm sorry I brought it up.

Speaker 3:
[100:15] Well, you should.

Speaker 2:
[100:16] So they did shoot this ending in two different ways. Like I said in the beginning of this, but the shot that's fading away from them, like helicopter shot that's going away, that was supposed to be the ending where he dies. So in that shot, Riggs is dead in Murtaugh's arms.

Speaker 1:
[100:34] Man. Do you, if this whole thing had ended after this and Riggs dies, are you okay with it? I kind of am.

Speaker 3:
[100:45] I'm not, because that means you're left, that would be, you know what? Here's the thing. That's the reason that we got gone fishing with fucking Joe Pesci and Danny Glover. Because Riggs is no longer around.

Speaker 1:
[101:02] Riggs is dead, man. And they have to go once a year to like talk about him and keep his memory alive.

Speaker 2:
[101:07] I think I would like it if they built that kind of sentiment up better throughout the whole movie. I don't think they wanted to do that. They just tried it at the end to see if like maybe it would work. You know what I mean? So like the story that they filmed had Riggs living at the end.

Speaker 1:
[101:28] Yes, there was not enough implications of like this might be, he might die today.

Speaker 2:
[101:32] That's what I mean.

Speaker 1:
[101:33] Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2:
[101:34] The only time that comes when he starts to get unhinged.

Speaker 1:
[101:37] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[101:37] Because other than that, you're like, man. OK. As an audience member, you have to have a tinge of like a poetic outing of like your hero.

Speaker 1:
[101:46] I'll let him live, but I did want Rika to survive and show up. That's my one problem.

Speaker 3:
[101:50] Well, see, and that's the thing is like because there was discussions. You said earlier there was also discussions of them all living and going back to Murtaugh's for another holiday dinner, probably of some kind, right? But it's like there had to be some sort of a sacrifice there to make this to make the end so much more important and dire for Riggs. That connection for him. If she had survived, then it would have been like a James Bond kind of love interest where she's not coming back in the next one.

Speaker 1:
[102:27] Correct.

Speaker 3:
[102:28] You know what I mean? There's going to be some shot story of why she's not there anymore. We would have just gotten that in the first 15 minutes of the next one.

Speaker 1:
[102:38] Karate Kid 2 and Elizabeth Shoe, Vanna Shoe, and you're like, fuck this.

Speaker 3:
[102:42] Then you really would have been pissed.

Speaker 1:
[102:44] Fuck this.

Speaker 3:
[102:46] No, but I wanted her to live too. Riggs not living seems like it's like a non-negotiable. Like number two, you have Lethal Weapon 2, comes out to be a massive hit again, and you know there's going to be a number three. You can't just have two Lethal Weapons. A trilogy is necessary. A trilogy is necessary, and we'll discuss that this holiday season.

Speaker 2:
[103:16] Man, it's like he's good at this. Holy shit.

Speaker 1:
[103:19] Well, anything you guys want to say about this movie before we give it a review? No, no.

Speaker 3:
[103:25] Said it all, man.

Speaker 1:
[103:26] My friends, we have dissected this movie scene by scene. It's time to give it our modern day ratings. It'll be etched in stone forever. You can see the ratings of all the movies we've done at confusedbreakfast.com. See how this one stacks up? Also, please support us directly at patreon.com/confusedbreakfast. Perks like voting on upcoming movies, bonus audio episodes, direct access to Discord, all kinds of cool stuff. Sean, I'm going to start with you, man. Modern day rating of Lethal Weapon 2.

Speaker 2:
[103:57] I think this movie is really fun. I think it's quite much like the best action movies of this era. Firstly, the weapon is a little darker, and then you get this. I think they, much like I think about Wayne's World 2, they refined what Lethal Weapon is in this movie. So now these guys are like the ultimate buddy cop, and we get the best of them in this movie. And like we discussed in the episode, we don't really need to know much about the villainous plot, the kind of diplomatic, governmental kind of whatever bullshit's going on. We just know that they're a bad guy. And all we want to see in Lethal Weapon movies, all I want to see in Lethal Weapon movies is Murtaugh and Riggs defeat the bad guy and figure it out together and go through shit together literally in this movie. And you add Leo Getz as a comedic kind of relief, it's fun. I don't actually really need it. It's just a fun welcoming. I had so much fun with this movie. Every time an action scene got over with it, I was like, fuck yeah, dude. It's just so much fun. I do like it better than the first one. I'm going to give it an 8.8.

Speaker 1:
[105:09] 8.8 for Sean. AJ, what about you?

Speaker 3:
[105:12] All right. Well, here's the thing. I really did like when I was like nostalgically and up until this current watch of it, I thought I had it in my brain that number two was like the worst one of all of them. And it's so funny. It's like the Rocky movies, you know? Like you watch them all and you have your favorites that you like to watch, but there are ones that are, they are better than the others, right? And this is the same exact thing. I really did think that, you know, I was just kind of blinded by nostalgia for what this series is and what I didn't maybe catch and really pay attention to in this one. I don't think that this movie is as good if you didn't get Joe Pesci into it. He's such an important part of like this series from here on out and just gives us some great comic relief. And again, Sean, you made the great point of the, like, there's no, it's hard to like pinpoint the bad guy to a degree. It's like, it doesn't feel like the big bad. It just feels like this bad thing that's happening. But that's not the point. The point is Murtaugh and Riggs, you know, and their chemistry and what they're doing. And it's no, it's no telling why they made like a TV series out of it and they wanted it to do well. So that being said, originally Lethal Weapon, guys, this was one of my higher movies, I think. According to this, I gave that a 9.5. I think that this is, that might have been too generous. It's tough. I'm going to give this, though, I'm going to give this a 9. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[107:14] A 9 yes.

Speaker 3:
[107:15] I'm going to give it a 9.

Speaker 2:
[107:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[107:17] Yeah. I like, the Lethal Weapon series to me is better than the Die Hard series, I think, now that we've dove into two each. Lethal Weapon is almost perfect. It's almost like the perfect buddy guy dynamic with like the action, with the fun stuff, with the cool kind of things happening. I don't know, like I'm excited to go back to Lethal Weapon 1 because I only gave it a 7, but that was so early in this.

Speaker 3:
[107:45] It was so early.

Speaker 1:
[107:46] I mean, like we were all just like, ah, it was like, you're making a stand.

Speaker 2:
[107:50] It's like the fourth movie you've ever watched.

Speaker 3:
[107:52] Yeah, I know. It was, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[107:54] Basically.

Speaker 3:
[107:56] Well, you know, it was so early, like I wanted to be really excited about Lethal Weapon, my pick. Sean was like, hey, yeah, hell yeah, Lethal Weapon, whatever. And Mike's trying to be reserved and cool.

Speaker 1:
[108:07] I'm just establishing a baseline. Lethal Weapon and Hocus Pocus, same movie, okay? Yeah, basically. So we may have to revisit that score on Lethal Weapon 1, but I do think this one's better. I think this is an 8.1. And we gotta go to Starling. Starling says, this movie opens right in the middle of a car chase, making the bold assumption that if you're in a theater, you're here to see your old pal Riggs and Murtaugh. And if you're not, well, fuck it. Who cares? Backstory not required. This is a Mel Gibson movie and everybody loves Mel, right? If this is your go-to background movie, I can see why. You can look up every now and then and enjoy a few chaotic scenes. The iconic toilet scene is one of the fun ones, but I couldn't stop thinking, did he manage to wipe or flush at any point overnight? There are a lot of people crowded into that bathroom. Sniff, sniff, ew, gross. And while I don't want to overthink the physics of a movie like this, I'm not sure how he managed to pull Riggs off the toilet and get him under a blanket, or how that blanket would fully protect you from the debris of a full explosion. That said, I did notice there were a few bit of lag between the yank and the explosion, giving him a few seconds to make it happen in what was supposed to be a hairpin trigger detonation. That is because of the nitrogen.

Speaker 3:
[109:16] They did the nitrogen and that is what gave them the few seconds.

Speaker 1:
[109:20] Which is science, don't you think?

Speaker 3:
[109:22] It makes perfect sense. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1:
[109:24] While that scene is admittedly an eyebrow razor, the moment when the mobster walks in and is told, we are painting, only to immediately be shot to make a cleanup easier, now that's a stroke of genius. The most charming part of this movie isn't Riggs for me, it's Murtaugh's family. The kids are great and the condom commercial was genuinely funny, especially when it paid off later with Getz. The only time I actually laughed out loud during this movie was when he watched the commercial and said, she made me want to go out and buy rubbers right now. Overall, this movie is a bit scattered. We have a villain who shouts like He-Man, yelling, I have diplomatic immunity, as if it's a defensive spell from Hogwarts. Thank you. There's also an Eva Braun-like secretary we're supposed to believe is completely innocent who Riggs instantly falls madly in love with after sleeping with her once. Okay, make that six times, but still one night.

Speaker 2:
[110:11] Eva Braun-like dude.

Speaker 1:
[110:13] It's true. But hey, he got himself a slice of that South African. I guess he really A-parted her hide. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[110:22] Why are you so on fire, dude?

Speaker 1:
[110:24] That's Starling, dude.

Speaker 2:
[110:25] You're ripping it.

Speaker 1:
[110:26] Well, she is very beautiful. The moment he realizes she's been murdered, he goes full Wolverine berserker rage, killing everyone in sight. Come on, guys, nuts. And that's when it hit me what feels so odd about this movie. It wants to sit in the same category as Die Hard, but at least with Die Hard, the insanity feels like something a cop might plausibly do in defense of protecting people. These cops, however, are in full offensive mode, more commando than cop movie. Riggs tying a truck to the stilts of a mansion in the LA Hills, pulling it down is completely bonkers. Gibson's charming, but there's something about someone who knows the audience loves him that doesn't work here for me. It's giving, I know you ladies want to fuck me, wink, wink. Whereas Glover really is genuinely lovable along with his entire family. My overall assessment is that I get, while this was fun in the 80s and Gibson and Glover are fun to watch, I shan't to be hitting play again. But if it was on in the background, I might leave it on a 6.15.

Speaker 2:
[111:22] Wow, dude.

Speaker 1:
[111:23] A little low, but that's why we do this as a group in 8.01. That's going to take this movie tied in 72nd position with Dawn of the Dead. We gave Lethal Weapon 1 an 8.2. This is going to fall a little bit underneath regular Lethal Weapon. My cousin Vinnie is better than this, and Home Alone 2 is worse than this, to tie in a few characters there.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
[113:31] How about that?

Speaker 1:
[113:32] In the Joe Pesci universe.

Speaker 2:
[113:33] I mean, what can you do there, man? Like it's any given day.

Speaker 1:
[113:37] It just depends on how you're feeling when you watch it.

Speaker 3:
[113:39] The Pesci-verse, baby.

Speaker 2:
[113:40] I mean, don't know that it's better than every single movie we've ever covered, but what do you got there?

Speaker 1:
[113:44] Well, we hope you enjoyed the episode. Thanks for being here. Tune in as we end our month of sequels next week with Two Towers, followed by a fun month in May, starting off with After Hours, Rhymes with Towers. Yeah. If you're new to this episode, go back this time last year, The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Speaker 2:
[114:01] Great movie.

Speaker 1:
[114:01] That was a fun movie to revisit, fun movie to talk about.

Speaker 3:
[114:05] God, don't you just want to fuck everything you see just once?

Speaker 2:
[114:08] Yeah, and we were in the midst of great characters, in the midst of Damon, May of Damon.

Speaker 3:
[114:15] Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2:
[114:18] That's exactly what we were.

Speaker 1:
[114:19] Thanks to Logan on the controls, uploadmediagroup.com here in Cedar Rapids. Check them out.

Speaker 2:
[114:25] I'm Logan.

Speaker 1:
[114:28] He'll probably overdub me again.

Speaker 3:
[114:30] I just unrevoked it. It's been re-revoked. That's Logan trying to quote a movie.

Speaker 1:
[114:36] Check out our network, Cloud10 at Cloud10.fm. That is it for us. Goodbye.

Speaker 2:
[114:41] Goodbye.

Speaker 3:
[114:42] Deuces.

Speaker 2:
[114:43] Your listener chip will never be revoked.