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Speaker 1:
[00:09] Welcome back to the Peptide of The Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Cross the way, Mr. William T. Haas, ready to drop some knowledge on us. What's up, dude? Busy day.

Speaker 2:
[00:22] Always a busy day, man.

Speaker 1:
[00:24] What, past 12? We never record past 12. Generally 10.

Speaker 2:
[00:27] Right now.

Speaker 1:
[00:28] So, busy's good, though.

Speaker 2:
[00:29] Busy's good, it's a busy day. Yeah, I have a lot on my mind, I guess. Lot of my mind, so we're trying to focus.

Speaker 1:
[00:36] I was listening to you with, what's his name, the new guy?

Speaker 2:
[00:40] Kinsey.

Speaker 1:
[00:41] Yeah. Will's good at that. He has patience. I'm not. I was thinking that. You know, you're just good at it, man. Like, I'm just a dude. I don't like explaining shit.

Speaker 2:
[00:50] I don't like explaining stuff at all. But I guess so I was raised by two school teachers, so that may be helped. Right. Maybe I just have that in my jeans to like teach. Teach. But as you get, I guess, busier and owner of business and get higher up and have more employees, I feel like all I'm doing is explaining how to do things. But, which is a huge pain in the ass, like it sucks because God is just 10 times faster if I just do it. The problem is if I just keep doing it.

Speaker 1:
[01:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:24] And then now I have so many damn tasks that only I can just do. And it's impossible to do all of these things. So it's a necessary evil, right? You got to train people. To know how to do it. And I have the right people that are quick learners. And he's a damn quick learner, actually. Like he's impressive. And that's great when you teach somebody not even that thoroughly and then they nerdy know it. Stereos like that too. And brandy. But like, yeah, people. It's nice. Some people just get it. But yeah, I've been having to do a lot of that.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] Well, we've talked about it many times. It's hiring the right people is key to everything. Everything.

Speaker 2:
[02:06] We were at the beach this weekend, and one of our good friends, my buddy's wife, was like, oh, she's an accountant. And she's like, oh, tell me about the things. You know, what are you guys dealing with? And I was like, honestly, I don't want to. No. Answer is no. Like, I explain these things all day long. And think about it. I don't want to explain it to you. I just don't want to talk about it. It's like, I understand. It's okay. Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[02:31] I do it every day.

Speaker 2:
[02:33] I don't know. Shout out to people who I saw. I saw somebody who I used to play volleyball with when I was a single man and out there just like having fun in life every weekend at this beach party that we went to. And he's like, hey, man, I haven't seen a long long time. He's like, I watch you and Jay, you know, every week. Right. I feel like I know you guys. He's like, man, you look at you. You've changed so much. You got a girlfriend. You got that. You got a girl. You're about to make your wife.

Speaker 1:
[02:59] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[03:00] Yeah. Super nice. From Oklahoma.

Speaker 1:
[03:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:03] Like a thick accent. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:05] So shout out to everybody who. Yeah. Everybody who watches and appreciates this. So that's just it is cool. And I guess if you see us around, like, feel free to say hi. I guess. Yeah, I do. I like. Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 1:
[03:21] I was telling Will when this kind of started, because I was ahead of the curve. I had my channels and it was happening to me quite a bit. And I'm all, it's coming. Just be ready. It started happening. I told you. Everybody's cool, man.

Speaker 2:
[03:32] Everybody's cool. That's for sure.

Speaker 1:
[03:34] It's super cool, man. When people just know about you and they listen and like, it's flattering and it's super cool, man. It's just all kind of just happened. Here we are. But I was talking with Liz. So Dr. Scott, I've been dealing with the sleep thing, dealing with this, dealing with that. So Dr. Scott, I've been working with him and he ran some tests. This is kind of gross, but blood test, obviously, which he dug in, which is man, Scott just goes deep. I've never had a doctor go that deep. So I was dope. And then I did for, there's no soft way to say this, the fecal test.

Speaker 2:
[04:06] Fecal, fecal test.

Speaker 1:
[04:07] And it's gross. It was seriously gross. Which made it even worse as I sent it in, they never got it. So I had to do it again. And I was like, bro, only me. But that stuff's crazy, dude. So anyways, long story short, he's working with fixing my gut. I've had some gut problems for ever. I think it was the Vicodin that I used to eat, like 50 Vicodin back in the day. I will do it to you. But I've had this, as you know, this autoimmune forever, forever, ever, ever. And I'm just so freaking ready to just get rid of this son of a bitch. He thinks he can fix it. So he's got me on all these. Do you like how this just this box now of supplements taken morning and night. I just started taking for the last few days. And yeah, it's a little weird, bro. Yeah, you release toxin. So I'm like a little weird right now. I'm like, am I supposed to feel weird? He's all yes. You're releasing toxin. I'm like, OK, because I got so. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting because the reason I even bring this up is just it's important to do this stuff. You know what I mean? And like people that like he does that for a living. It's interesting. And I've had numerous MBs think that they can fix it. They don't even come close. So give the holistic man. Yeah, give him the reigns, baby. Let's see if he can do this round. So either way, it's going to reboot my gut. And that will be great.

Speaker 2:
[05:27] You'll be taking a lot of time.

Speaker 1:
[05:28] I remember nine week course.

Speaker 2:
[05:31] OK, so that's a good amount of time to change that. Remember when I was a little kid watching ESPN or they did like this. They spotlighted Spotlit, Bill Romanowski. And they're like, let's, you know, he was a badass and obviously he liked his supplements. Now, I'm not even going to say he was doing steroids because, I mean, there is a point, like people in the NFL, people don't understand this. But I've met plenty of people who are like, oh, NFL players, they're all on steroids, guaranteed. None of them are on steroids. Guaranteed. You cannot play that athletic of a sport. Baseball is about it, and now they're even testing there. But the testing is so effing strict. Now, they can take some other things, but they're not taking straight up anabolic steroids. Anyway, the whole point of this I brought up was they covered, Bill Roaner asked you, what do you eat in a day? This dude had trays of pills.

Speaker 1:
[06:24] Oh, really?

Speaker 2:
[06:25] This is breakfast, these seven trays. This is my snack. This is lunch.

Speaker 1:
[06:32] That's me now. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:33] That's a lot. That's what it sounds like. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:36] We'll see. Yeah. I'll keep you posted. Hey, this is what we do. We love nutrition. We love it. I'm ready to dig in and fix it, baby.

Speaker 2:
[06:44] And the reason that none of them can be used in steroids is like, they're just running too much. Like it may make you really strong, but your connective tissues cannot, you will get injured. That's why like you'll see all the big names who we knew were doing steroids in the NFL, they got hurt.

Speaker 1:
[07:03] In college, when I was playing in college, always got hurt.

Speaker 2:
[07:05] Always got hurt. You're gonna pull your muscles too strong, few tendons, your endurance just cannot, you know, yeah, you just can't do it for a long time.

Speaker 1:
[07:16] They definitely inject you with like cortisol, just absolutely. I had a Eben Britton on, he's an NFL star, he was telling me it was kind of fun to just dig into just man, they just blast you. You're getting your ass on that field, dude. You are getting your ass on that field, dude, and like you are shamed if you don't. I was like, wow, that's intense, man. But dude, you are at the top echelon of the top sport ever. I think football even outweighs soccer in every other country where soccer is huge in other countries.

Speaker 2:
[07:51] Well, yeah, soccer wins. Soccer wins in the university. There's no hands down because guess why? Any kid from Ghana, no offense to Ghana, but like any third world country that has no money, you can play soccer. What do you need? A ball. You need a coconut, basically, to kick around. To play football, you need, it takes money, right? You got to organize that many people. You got to buy them all pads. You got to go organize all the plays. It's just a, yeah. So like, basketball, soccer is probably a bigger university. Big world out there.

Speaker 1:
[08:20] Soccer, man, let's put those guys make cash.

Speaker 2:
[08:22] And they make cash. But you're right. I mean, it's, yeah, you're up at the very, very, very, very pinnacle. And the end in an NFL career is very short. And you want to maximize it, but it's a business, too. It's all business. You can go to college, right? Like, high school football was fun, right? It was still a game.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] Next level.

Speaker 2:
[08:41] You go to college and the first realization was, yeah, I'm okay. This is a business. Coaches, this is their career. They are yelling at you because this is their career and their whole family is on the line, right? Or as your high school coach, he's a teacher, you don't really care. Like, you know, but yes.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] Get out there and enjoy yourselves.

Speaker 2:
[09:01] Do your best, you know?

Speaker 1:
[09:03] Get your ass on that field, dude.

Speaker 2:
[09:05] No, I need you to feed my kids, right? That's just an college.

Speaker 1:
[09:08] They're making millions of dollars. Yeah, so what was the statistic that by NFL players ago broke within a few years? Yeah, pretty crazy amount.

Speaker 2:
[09:18] Like really high.

Speaker 1:
[09:19] It's like almost all. I mean, you know how to you don't know how to deal with money.

Speaker 2:
[09:24] You don't know how to do with money.

Speaker 1:
[09:24] I could make good money in my early 20s and I had no clue about anything.

Speaker 2:
[09:30] No, absolutely. Next round, I was smart.

Speaker 1:
[09:34] I'm going to invest this bitch.

Speaker 2:
[09:36] I started a company when I was 21 and then so ended up selling it will be forced to sell it. And had to sign take a letter that says I'm banned from the industry. Okay. I had a drug problem. But like absolutely. When I got when I first had a taste of money, because like growing up, I couldn't get Nike shoes, right? It was always like, you know, we got to go to pay less to source. And so I always wanted things, but never could have them. And then when I finally started making my own money. At one point, I literally had two apartments, like a boat and an avalanche. And we're staying at two apartments for no reason. No reason, right? Just like buying out the bar when I'd go out. And yeah, that was dumb and not right. But I didn't know how to, yeah, didn't know what the hell to do. Wasn't responsible. I was young too, and young people are dumb.

Speaker 1:
[10:21] Yeah, dude, so think about guys making millions in their early 20s.

Speaker 2:
[10:25] Shit, and they're young and dumb. Yeah, in their early 20s. And they're making serious money. I wasn't making like nothing close to millions.

Speaker 1:
[10:30] Yeah, buying like whatever.

Speaker 2:
[10:31] And all these friends who say, yo, let me get some, right?

Speaker 1:
[10:35] Business.

Speaker 2:
[10:35] They don't realize taxes, right? They're taking half of their money. Yeah, so it makes sense. Same thing, lotto ticket winners, right? Yeah, like within five years. They're like, oh, he's broke because they don't know how to deal with it. The mob has known this. They have a saying like, never make a poor man the boss, right? Because the poor man, when he gets some money, he gets a little greedy and he wants to keep it, and he does dumb things, and then he gets violent. That's true. So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:05] Those mob guys know what's up.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:08] Moms. My mom was from Brooklyn, New York. Go ahead. Finale. Done a finale. Cool, man. So today, my friends, it is a Q&A. It's these are good questions. I thought they were great. So we're going to enjoy this. Remember to jump onto school. School is growing. It's going well. People are loving it. So if you haven't joined our school platform, jump on there. There's been some great information. Not just the stuff that we're posting, but just everybody's kind of posting. I posted something yesterday, just kind of curious and it did well. I said, you know, here's our, Will and I talk about our favorite compounds, or what are your top three? And so many people commented, so I thought that was cool. And it's a wide range of stuff out there, man. There's people are educating themselves. You could even tell in some of the questions they've changed and people are growing. And it's been a cool experience, man.

Speaker 2:
[12:04] And to those people who have questions to me that are complex ones, I know and I'm working on it. It's been a few days since I've been asked, like a few of these people and haven't got back to them. But yeah, it's coming. This is a lot. And they're like, yeah, like, yes, some loaded questions. And school is still like, folks, it is under construction. It's still there. But we are just be patient as we're re-branding and upgrading. We got a lot of cool stuff to coming, including a whole new just private Q&A forum section. Different, different, same platform, but like different actual, I don't know, ownership, actual platform, still made on school, but not the Peptide of The Week school. It's going to be dope. And that's the spot to be. But yeah, more to come, okay?

Speaker 1:
[13:01] Yeah, VIP a little bit more direct access to us. We can't answer every single email.

Speaker 2:
[13:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:05] No, it just would not, can do it.

Speaker 2:
[13:08] So we're going to call it like this, the JD and Will VIP forum. Really original, but that's what it is.

Speaker 1:
[13:15] Make it very easy.

Speaker 2:
[13:15] We're trying to go as simple.

Speaker 1:
[13:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:17] And yeah, no fancy.

Speaker 1:
[13:20] We'll do this honors, big dog. Here we go.

Speaker 2:
[13:23] First one. I hope that's not the right one.

Speaker 1:
[13:27] Hold on one second.

Speaker 2:
[13:28] I need to go here. Okay. Why the peptide companies, right? That's what we're talking about, right?

Speaker 1:
[13:34] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[13:34] Okay. Why are the peptide companies not testing for endotoxins, TFA, sterility, heavy metals, etc. They all mainly seem to focus on mass and purity. Interesting on your interested in your take.

Speaker 1:
[13:48] Great question.

Speaker 2:
[13:49] Good question. Okay. So here is, I guess, you know, the main answer is just an economic answer. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[13:57] Money.

Speaker 2:
[13:57] I know that like we, I guess, consult for some different companies and the way to go is here is the realistic thing. I'm gonna do some math for you. Okay. So a basic test for just purity and content averages about $200. Okay. A company that I know about is intimately is testing, sends out samples, okay, to three independent labs, every sample, and, you know, starting from scratch and just going, all right, hey, let's revamp quality control, blah, blah, blah. We're sending out every single peptide, but to three different ones. So you got 75 peptides, right, times $200 each, all right, times three different spots. So there's $45,000 for testing, for your quality and purity testing. Now, if you do for the heavy metals and all the endotoxins, etc., it's about 600 bucks a test. So 600 times 75 times three. Look at about $135,000 to test basically one batch of every peptide, and that needs to be ongoing, right? Every single new batch that you get in, you're doing it again, times three. Now, obviously, that's the upfront initial expense, and then it gets a little bit easier. But economically, these research peptide companies, they are not bound by all these regulations that force them to do all this stuff. This is why you get to buy these peptides cheap. I'm talking cheap like fraction cheap compared to buying them prescribed right from Eli Lilly. They are bound to do all of these CGMP testing procedures, and that is why you will be paying 15 times the price. Also, I have some doubts, and personally, I guess maybe just because I'm a gym bro and I've put enough stuff in my body that weigh the consequences on financial rights. Basically, if you want them cheap and a real good price and to do it, you just can't complain. Beggars can't be choosers, or you can pay 15 times as much. I personally, yeah, cool, I don't want my endotoxins to be just off the charts, bad, heavy metals, but man, you should see what the acceptable level of arsenic is in a daily allotment for people. People don't really know how to read these things. They don't really know and it's too much for me to explain right now because we got to talk about every single different compound and every single different heavy metal or potential toxin and what the allowable limit is. We consume this stuff every day, breathing. I guarantee that you're like the Big Mac or like Coca-Cola that you drink is in Doritos is way worse for you with all of that shit than doing a peptide that hasn't been tested. Now, you shouldn't ever buy some stuff that hasn't been tested at all. And what you will see, you're going to see test companies more and more have have these further, further expensive tests, right? As people are realizing, like peptides are great, they are working and more money is going to come into this, right? Bigger money players who so the standard is just going to go up and up and up and up, which is good. It's great. It's just really good. But that, I mean, that's going to go up. That's the reason why. And hopefully, they all get to this really high standard.

Speaker 1:
[17:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:47] Right. And are somehow can keep cost down.

Speaker 1:
[17:50] Well, if you've heard the podcast with Jay Campbell, whether you believe it or not, but what he said is about 70% of those smaller research companies will be bye-bye because they're not going to be able to do those types of testings or the ones that actually are literally like testing them properly are going to be the ones that kind of make it through. So whether that's true or not, we kind of think so, which is good for you. I mean, yes, is it is a cost going to increase a bit? Sure. But you're getting safe products and you're still going to get them a butt load cheaper than you're going to get them from those higher companies. So they'll still be cheaper. They will be tested. So there will be some type of regulation to a degree. It's a good thing. It's a good thing there. It's improving, man. You don't want to get it from John that has it out of his back of his truck because he got it from China for 16 bucks. That's great. You can literally find that. But the reason these companies pass the cost on to you is because they test them. They just went over the cost. It cost a shitload of money to test these damn things, man. So that gets passed on to you. That's why the companies that charge a little bit more, charge a little bit more, is to test them. Simple math.

Speaker 2:
[19:01] Simple math and also to add on to like, yes, and I agree that she says, you know, 70, 30% of the companies will still will remain because they have good quality control standards. But I also kind of agree with Jay, probably about 75% of the peptides out there on the research websites are bunk. Like, you know, say they're 10 milligrams, but you're getting four and a half milligrams, or you're not getting any and you're getting something else, right? So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:30] This man's been in this game a long time, fellas and people. So he knows what he's talking about. He's throwing away a lot of bumps. It was not tested well. So if you got that company that didn't care, you would get four milligrams of Routier Tide and you bought the 30 MIG.

Speaker 2:
[19:49] I gotta tell you, like a hundred plus suppliers I have purchased things off of and tested them all. And I would say, yeah, probably, I don't know, honestly, to be honest, like I'd say about 15%, 20% of those, like were fully dosed and say what they were. The other ones just threw away. And so the average Joe is going, oh, well, I find a hack, right? And they're like, yeah, they found one of those 100 suppliers I bought. They bought it, they got it, and they sold it. That's what they're putting on the website. And yeah, about 20% of the actually is when it is, or even dosed, right? Not to even mention endotoxins and minerals, et cetera. But that's what you're getting.

Speaker 1:
[20:30] So that's why, well said there. All right, let's see here. Appreciate you guys. Many blessings and continued success. I was wondering if you all monitor IGF-1 before taking IGF-1-LR3, when would your IGF-1 be at a level where you would have concerns? Any other competing peptides you would be concerned taking if starting IGF-1-LR3? Continue to build muscle, cut fat, and I'm looking to add this to the stack. I'm just waiting for blood work to come back to get a baseline. 53 years old, male, stack hunt, consists of HGH2IUs, TRT, 175 megs for a week, KISPeptin, AOD, CJC, IPA, NAD, MOTC, GHKCU. I'm a peptide lover, I guess you should know. You go, dude. Only one I was curious about was the KISPeptin in there. I'm sure you thought that too. I'd kick that out of there. If you're running TRT, you probably don't need that. It's probably going to increase your testosterone to the degree where you might have some issues. I speak with experience. Shout out my testosterone. It's getting gyno. What do you got?

Speaker 2:
[21:45] Well, yeah, so the KISPeptin, here's the deal with that. Like we talked about and I maybe I wasn't listening to what you just said. But so the KISPeptin starts, so it is there to kind of increase your testicular action, right? And both of you like luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating. Yeah, so you're both your testes, okay? It starts though where it naturally starts, which is in our brain with our pituitary, okay? And the research tells us that if you are on TRT, okay? The pituitary is basically, and therefore you have elevated testosterone levels, that means our pituitary is not listening. It will not be told this turn on because it goes, no, I already have enough testosterone. So, kisspeptin is essentially worthless if you're taking testosterone, okay? Because it won't do it. It'll say, hit the pituitary and make some, pituitary goes, nope, I'm not doing it. I already have enough testosterone.

Speaker 1:
[22:44] We are good.

Speaker 2:
[22:44] So as opposed to HCG where it bypasses that loop and just starts here, it just tells it to make, tells testes to make more and it will do it. So that's what I guess stood out to me. The one thing I can't give you an exact answer on what blood levels exactly to look for and make a determination if it's okay to take IGF-1, LR-3, right, or not, sorry. But you, I guess the one worry, so taking HGH or Orasicretogog and IGF-1 is going to increase growth signaling, okay? Taking both of those, great. It will increase growth signaling. All three. Okay, is he taking all three?

Speaker 1:
[23:26] Yeah, HGH or Orasicretogog and IGF-1 is too much.

Speaker 2:
[23:29] I think that that is too much. I think that there is too much of the same thing competing for the same pathways.

Speaker 1:
[23:38] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[23:38] Okay. I would take something like IGF-1, and I would maybe choose two, but just don't do a whole bunch of those two, okay? So, Socretogogs plus IGF-1 or HGH plus IGF-1. IGF-1 would be the one. That's I would either make a choice of Socretogog or HGH. That's either or, and then you can add IGF-1, but don't do a ton of any of them.

Speaker 1:
[24:09] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[24:09] Okay. You really don't want to just overdo it, right? You will see, you know, like hypoglycemia, edema, which is just water excess, water retention. Though that's a sign that we're doing too much, we need to back it off. But IGF-1 is essentially the byproduct of HGH and secretagogues, right? But it's the byproduct that is the growth signaling. So just giving yourself straight IGF-1 or 3 is just telling your body just right now, boom, hey, let's grow your muscles without some of the natural loop that the secretagogues take and not much of a natural loop that HGH takes. HGH is going to give you that IGF-1 increase, but also the other side of it, which is essentially the metabolic side is the fat burning side. It's the growth and fat burning. So be aware that I would cut, yeah, I'd worry about just too much in the same pathway. Yeah, and everything else and do that to think about that with other peptides everybody are taking, like if you have one, two peptides that do the same thing or compete for the same pathway because they're working, their mechanism is basically the same thing. Let's just do one of those. Like, yeah, save some money. Do that for 90 days. Get off that and then do that other one.

Speaker 1:
[25:25] Right.

Speaker 2:
[25:27] That would be my strategy.

Speaker 1:
[25:28] We totally get it. I mean, we totally get it. I've done it numerous times. I've taken boatloads of peptides, you know, like they're easy access for me. So why would I not? But like as I grow and as I evolve and I learn, as I learn myself and how I feel, blah, blah, blah, I think going slow and just easy literally is the best way to do it. You know, you have a lot of these peptides are great. Like you can do them in every 90 days, change it, change the cycle, change it around. You know, SS 31 and MOTC and NID, amazing. So use it for like 90 days, take a big break and then switch it up. Try some CMAX, C-line, whatever. So you definitely obviously have the love for peptides, but just like us, just like everybody, we start to get so trained to take something when the baseline of everything is diet and exercise and sleep and sleep. I've talked about my lack of sleep and it effed me up around, you know, for about a year on three to four hours and I was running on adrenaline for a long time and it eventually caught up to me and whooped my ass. So I fixed it, you know, slowed the hell down and fixed it and I felt great. So get your diet in line. Now, I'll pull out the IGF-1 and the Secretagog. As you know, big fans of HGH here, you got the TRT. I think MK677, if you're trying to bulk up a bit, is way better than both the Secretagog and the IGF-1. I'm talking with the experience. The only negative that people have is they eat a lot. If you can control the hunger, you're gonna be fine. I truly compare MK677 to Anabar, I've done them both. So it does give you that nice round looking fullness when you lift. So if that's what you're looking for, MK677 is your guy. Again, as long as you don't have a problem eating too much, where a lot of people have. But other than that, yeah, I would pull out, you definitely don't want to do all three. You're doing the AOD too, but that's not gonna increase your IGF-1. But yeah, I would go a little bit slower, man, just focus on your diet, focus on your sleep, and make sure that those things are prime too, and generally stay in a pocket of about four peptides. I really think that's a really good space, and then switch it up every few months. But try the IGF-1, but just don't try it with all three.

Speaker 2:
[27:48] Yeah, and on that one, go like eight weeks max, like starting at 100 micrograms a day. I prefer post-workout and always eat a little carbs with it. JD likes to pre-workout, get a bigger pump, pre-workout for sure, especially with little carbs. I think post-workout, you're getting a little bit more muscle actual development because it's the biggest thing, it's a nutrient partition, all right? So it is just gonna every nutrient you eat is just gonna suck right into where your body's asking it. So post-workout, your muscles are sponges, just give me food, I need to rebuild because you just tore me down. It'll suck it back up. But also again, after a big meal, if you want to pig out and not have it show, do some IGF-1, okay, then eat a whole bunch. You're gonna wake up in the morning, like stomach just flax, all those calories, all that food just sucked up into your muscles. Yeah, nutrients. That's if you are an active person and those muscles are getting regular exercise. That's the only way that nutrients will be told to go into the muscles, by the way. Also, we've done this before, but those of you, when JD says MK677 is like Anovar, those of you who say, hell, that's some straight bulker. What's he talking about? Anovar is a cutter. I think that that's from his perspective, because he eats so damn well. Like, if he took Deca, it'll also, he'll stay lean, right? So, those of you who, if you take MK677, you have a little bit different genetics, and you also cannot control your eating, that's a problem. You might not keep you. You might not be lean. Okay, that could be a problem.

Speaker 1:
[29:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:24] Just so, just to put that out there. Okay. All right. Next one.

Speaker 1:
[29:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:28] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[29:29] Hi.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] I love the, I love you guys. Thank you. My question is, I'm a 50-year-old female who had a total hysterectomy with bilateral esophagectomy a year ago. Sorry. I think I'm entering perimenopause and the insomnia. Hot flashes and night sweats are torturous. I've looked into kisspeptin, but having a hysterectomy, I'm not sure if kisspeptin would help. Thoughts? I think you're probably right. So your hysterectomy should involve like removing an ovary. And that is where a lot of those hormones that you're missing are being created, but also estrogen. Like you're, I think that you're losing some estrogen somehow. I just don't think that you have the tools inside of you anymore for kisspeptin to actually work good. Contour to tell things to tell, you know, can tell the ovaries to start making some different hormones, but they're just not capable. For you, I would look at direct hormones.

Speaker 1:
[30:37] I was wondering if you're gonna go there.

Speaker 2:
[30:38] That's what I would look at. Absolutely just like, doctor 100% direct hormones. I just don't think your body isn't, doesn't have the exact capability to do it right after that.

Speaker 1:
[30:51] 50, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:52] So, and mostly just because of that hysterectomy, because of the surgery, because of that. So yeah, like actually, this is a question that needs to be detailed. Look at your, talk to your doctor, okay? Because there is explanation for all, there's a couple of explanations for all these symptoms. And we don't know, nobody knows until we, until you actually do the test to figure it out.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] Yeah, I think it's very simple. You have blood work. Yeah, start there. It's to answer that without seeing your blood work.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] We have a really good doctor we can connect you with that would go deep into your blood work and probably can give you some really good answers and some potential outcomes.

Speaker 1:
[31:30] So he might make you do a poop test.

Speaker 2:
[31:32] He might make you do a poop test.

Speaker 1:
[31:35] Nobody knows, he cares. And that's important to us. And that's why we promote certain people. You know, I won't put Will into this. When I say this, I'm not huge on Western medicine, but I do have a few out there that do care. Because they do truly care, and when they're trying to really help, and we're complicated, dude. They're freaking almost 50 years old, man. And I put my body through some hell, you know, with the drug abuse and all that stuff. And, you know, even though I've been sober for 15 years, there's residual, you know, that stuff comes back around. I'm telling you, I'm going through some of it. So, but we can all age well, and it all starts with blood work. It all starts with doing some things we don't want to do, like poop tests and all that stuff. But when we get to the bottom of whatever it is affecting us, we can fix it. We got to know first. We got to run tests. Simple as that.

Speaker 2:
[32:26] All right, sure.

Speaker 1:
[32:27] All right. Hello. 57-year-old female dealing with 50 pounds post-menopause weight gain. Bummer. Goal is to look and stay as youthful as possible. Join the club. I'm currently on CJC 1295 Vipamerelin, GHKCU, Wolverine, and KPV. Almost four months this go-around. Added MOTC a few weeks ago and experienced ravenous hunger. Well, I'm seriously considering dropping the CJC and going for the HGH. Will it hurt myself in the long run if I have to come off the HGH at some point in the future? At my age, what do I have to lose? Need reassurance of the safety of HGH. Can't do GLPs at all. Hoping this will help me reach my goals to lose weight and look younger. I'm consistent with the gym and macros, but not seeing a lot of results. For my efforts, pre-menopause, weight was stable and I carried good muscle on 5'4 frame for the efforts. Thanks, guys, enjoying being a part of your community. So 57-year-old female, 50 pounds post-menopause.

Speaker 2:
[33:40] So I think that first of all, just like hey, the Matzi, cool. Matzi is going to boost your metabolism. Guess what your body wants after it burns calories. It wants food. So it could be that. Hey, but it could be that maybe the CJC IPA is just starting to work. OK, these things, all these peptides, just take a little while. Take a couple of weeks to start really kicking in. You do notice you may just have started the Matzi and like even though the CJC happened long enough and then now it's really starting to yeah, yeah, kick things into gear. And that's what's causing the hungry because it is a growth hormone secreticog. Also, telling the body to grow. Body needs food to grow. So keep that in mind. The HGH, I am not going to give you confirmation and guarantees that there will be no problems ever from HGH, right? That would be untruthful. But I think that, so at a low dose of HGH, after long-term use, the biggest problem is, I think, is while you're using it is going a little too much, or heck, if you're sensitive to higher blood sugars or dimming down your insulin sensitivity, that's the bigger risk. I'm not really, I don't think it's going to, when you get off it, now your body won't know how to make HGH. I think as far as on that tip, you're gonna be about where your body would naturally be if you never did HGH, as far as your natural HGH levels. It is not really, it doesn't work the same way like a testosterone. If somebody's on testosterone for five years, right, and then they stop, absolutely, their body and their nuts are gonna be like, oh, crap, I gotta start, I got used to not having to make so much, and now we got to restart the factory and it's gonna take a little while. HGH, it can work like that if you abuse it, but taking it in the morning and not very much, you're not gonna have this let down. I think that you'll take it and your body will be making the normal amount of HGH that it always should be making at your age, which is not much, or not enough to make you happy, probably. So I don't think there's an extra bad, there's not, you have to worry about problems being caused when coming off. I just would rather not come off, because it will be better if you do not come off. But I don't think it's causing extra problems when you do come off.

Speaker 1:
[36:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:16] That makes sense. That means lots of words. Yeah, what else you got?

Speaker 1:
[36:25] Well, I was curious when you said you couldn't take the GLP ones. You didn't really say why. I wish you did. You know, gaining 50 pounds sucks for anybody. So I think HGH is great. You're 57. I think most people over 40 do well with it at a low dose. I do think at low dose for women is different. It's a little bit different. One IU, I think that will do wonders. We've talked about it numerous times. It's going to take a while for that to even hit its stride. You might feel a little tired at first because HGH can do that to you. But once it hits, man, it's great. I love it. It's, I've said it countless times. It's up there close to that TRT with me. Now, you ladies going through the menopause stuff, it's a bummer, man. It's part of life though. You know, I mean, there's, when it comes to peptides, there's a lot of peptides that are going to help with a lot of that stuff. What are some of the issues women have with menopause? Brain fog, weight gain, moodiness, thinning hair, sex drive, decreases, dry skin. So if you just slow down and think of that, you can combat that with certain peptides. And I'm not saying you throw the book at it, but you could, you can combat these. Brain fog, you can talk with, give you some cellular energy, NAD, SS31, MOTC. When it comes to weight gain, I would tell you read a True Tide. You said you can't take a GLP-1, but you can try like Tessa Fencing. That might work for you. When it comes to moodiness, C max, C long, both. You can run both of those together. I think they work well. Obviously the intimacy and the dryness down below is the infamous PT-141. And then the dry skin and hair and all that, we all know it's GHKCU. Or just take the clow with KPV and the Wolverine and the TB 500. That's just such a perfect product for older women that are going through this type of things. Now, that's a lot of products. I'm not saying take it all, but you could. You know, I generally just said take maybe four. But you're going through a big change in life, you know, and if you're fighting with your husband and yelling at him and you don't know why and these things can help with that, why not fix it?

Speaker 2:
[38:38] Probably because it's his fault. He's a dick.

Speaker 1:
[38:39] Yeah, your husband's a dick. But yeah, I mean, that's it. So those things are, you know, we have a menopause protocol. So I know we've done that one. It comes up so much. I would say for women, the TRT and the menopause are just obviously the top two. And that will help with that stuff. Again, I wish I knew why you can't take the GOP's, but Reddit True Tide is obviously going to be the king to help bring down that way. But again, Tessa Fensin, that might work.

Speaker 2:
[39:10] I was about to say like, I double down on the idea of Tessa Fensin. When unable to do any of the GLPs, Tessa Fensin is second best.

Speaker 1:
[39:21] They say that it combats Reddit True Tide in regards to the food noise. Do you feel that?

Speaker 2:
[39:27] Yes, it's not like I don't want to eat, but the food noise is the pleasure spike you get from food. For me, it absolutely kills the need for sugar.

Speaker 1:
[39:40] No way. That's interesting. I don't even know if I've been told this. We grow from this channel, we talk about these things so much. A lot of conversations just really intrigued me to think through things a little bit differently. Tessa Finsien was something that we talked about. We did a podcast on it, obviously. It's the one podcast that got taken down on YouTube. We don't know why. Anyways, a lot of you might have not seen it if you watch on YouTube, but if you watch on the podcast, it's a good one. Go check it out. We did a deep dive and Will and I had discussed it and he loves it. I hated it. I realized that I didn't give it a fair shake. As I got off peptides in the last month or so, that was the one I tried and I freaking loved it. So obviously, whenever I felt when I was in Cancun was probably not the test of fancy. Now, here's what I don't feel. I don't get any food noise blockage. I still have been craving sugar. Scott says it's yeast in my stomach because I have a yeast problem. So you crave sugar. I've been craving sugar like a son of a bitch lately and he says, that's it. So I'm not on reddit. I have been on test of fancy and here's what I love about it. I feel like it gives me energy. Yeah, I take it right when I wake up. And by the time the coffee is done, I feel like I'm already awake because I have a half cup of coffee and then I do my readings and I'm just ready. So I've been taking it a month and I've been loving it. But I don't feel the food noise blockage.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] How much do you take?

Speaker 1:
[41:08] Just one pail, so 50. What is that, 50?

Speaker 2:
[41:10] Try to take two. So you're, I think that those are either 250 micrograms or 500.

Speaker 1:
[41:18] I'm trying to remember what that is.

Speaker 2:
[41:19] But people can take up to a thousand. I take two pills a day. And yeah, absolutely. It's the energy. Here's the thing with the food, the sugar. I'm so used to eating ice cream every night, like a little pint of ice cream. OK, guys, I just did that forever, years. And my body got used to it, didn't really add any fat or do anything bad. Sorry. But 500 micrograms a pill. OK, so I when I take the way I started taking this, my brain just had a habit. I was like, OK, it's time for the ice cream. Right. And it wasn't necessarily like wanting it. But this is well, I bet I want it. And then when I take a bite, it just is like, OK. That's ice cream. It's not that special. Like before, it was like, damn, like that. Just like gave me a huge dopamine spike in this time. It just and so like I would throw away half of the ice cream.

Speaker 1:
[42:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:16] And then just stop buying them. So it was more out of habit, but it absolutely. I don't know. Yeah. It helps a lot. And energy, the biggest thing is energy. Like I just don't feel like I don't be like taking a nap. And it's because it's getting energy, but it's also boosting your dopamine and happy yet energized and I don't know. I personally want to take naps when I'm like depressed. And I don't say like I get like full depressed, but there are times where I get moods. There I'm like, not happy. This, but when I'm motivated about something, I don't care how little sleep I got.

Speaker 1:
[42:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:48] I'm not tired. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:49] Right.

Speaker 2:
[42:50] So that's kind of the way it makes me feel. It's like damn dude, I'm looking forward to things. Even if there's not a lot to look forward to. Well, there usually is a lot to look forward to, but yeah, the energy and just happiness, which makes you want to be awake and keep doing things.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2:
[43:09] It works. I think it's awesome.

Speaker 1:
[43:11] I stand corrected.

Speaker 2:
[43:13] The last person I would think about maybe switching to CJC and go to take Tessa.

Speaker 1:
[43:19] Definitely.

Speaker 2:
[43:20] Ipah, because your goal is fat loss and especially at your age and all these things like the belly fat. That's where it's accumulating first. And the Tessa is going to really attack that. So I'd switch over to that for sure.

Speaker 1:
[43:33] Yeah. So those are some options that will help you with some of them in a positive stuff and shoot. We've had women that have tried it and it's worked. So I think you're up.

Speaker 2:
[43:42] I'm up. Okay. Hey guys. Thanks for all you do. Wondering if you can clarify to the best of your knowledge, the amount of time peptides last before mixed and also after reconstituted, which is mixed. There is no such, there's so much conflicting and misinformation out there. I would love any updates that you have also for HGH. Also, this is also is the storage of the peptides before reconstituted. I know pieces of this have been covered in the past, so I just even recently heard from a reputable source that a mixed peptide only lasts 30 days, which I know is not accurate and wouldn't fall in line with dosage guidelines of the peptide. So I think it might be worth reviewing again with any updated information that you have.

Speaker 1:
[44:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[44:28] Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[44:29] Interesting. I don't think anybody knows exactly. I think anybody that says that they know, they don't know. It's one, numerous peptides. Some are delicate, some are not so delicate. Some can be out of the fridge and some cannot. So you can't bulk it together and say peptides and like, it's just like, this is how it works. I think I kind of know your answer, but I think we both have changed as we've grown and changed. I'm going to tell you that generally speaking, if we just kind of bulk them together, a general rule of thumb, in my opinion, would be six to eight weeks-ish. And that is going to be structured based upon different peptides. Tessa Morellen, we've learned a lot about that little son of a bitch. If you watch Peptide Podcast from a year ago, we've changed a lot because we've grown, we've seen hundreds and hundreds of people take these compounds. So we've grown too. So Tessa Morellen is in itself, it's changed quite a bit. You can leave it out of the fridge. We would have never thought that a year ago, but that's what you learn because a lot of people have problems with it. So again, I don't know if anybody knows exactly, but my take is six to eight weeks, that's a good rule of thumb.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] I think that you'll see in some literature that, you know, yeah, four weeks, I've seen that also. But I don't know, primary, like actual, like practical use and application has proven to me that that is not the case, right? I think, I don't know, I don't want to just re-explain everything he just said because I agree with basically all of it. First of all, but it also, what matters hugely is the solvent that you mix with it. So there's a couple of different things like A, like sterile water, right? Hey, people want to make sterile water. There's a huge difference between sterile water and like bacteriostatic water. Sterile water is used for only like a single use medication because it has no alcohol in there, nothing to kill or ward off bacteria. So you use sterile water only if you're going to mix something and then do the whole thing right now. Because bacteriostatic water, you put it in there, it's got a little bit of alcohol in there, that's to help kill off any bacteria. And the bacteria is not to keep you, the peptide user, safe. It's not like, oh, okay, good. I'll put this bacteriostatic water so I won't get a little infection. It is there to keep your peptide safe from microscopic bacteria that will get in there and degrade it and eat it and degrade it away. Okay, so then obviously then you got some things. I think that's a huge distinction. Okay, AOD water has benzoyl alcohol in it, right? The no-sting water has benzoyl alcohol in it. So those are no better or no worse, but you just better use them with the right compounds, especially the AOD water. The storage, couple years. So before mixing, before reconstituted, if you also have to look at solvent and like your storage and handling procedures, right? So like cool, dark place or refrigerator, which will not let condensation inside of the bottle. They were good before mixed a couple of years. Sort of HGH in particular is very sensitive. So that one degrades fast, even unmixed if it's in a hot or high light environment. So you need to be careful with that. Like if you get it, like needs to go right in the fridge, okay, and not be exposed to light. You'll actually notice kind of an H, I have noticed this HGH is going a little bit bad if it starts to burn as you, if you inject it and it stings, that's not how it should be. And I've used enough like old things and like put together a pattern. Like I see that pattern. The other thing, I mean, again, I had a neighbor who had semi-glutide and triseptide for six months a year, I think, and she did it and she was like, great, working amazingly, right? People have never even refrigerated them, not knowing that they're supposed to and it worked amazing. Okay, so sorry folks, there is no hard fast rule. Like he said, 30 days, you're going to be ultra conservative, I guess, but like, and that's just in 30 days is not saying, hey, it goes from 30 days, it's working full efficacy, 30 day 31, it does not work at all.

Speaker 1:
[48:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:41] Throw it out. That's not it, right? Maybe this person who told you that is saying, hey, for that specific peptide at about the 30 day mark, it may now start to slowly degrade, okay?

Speaker 1:
[48:55] Which it will a little bit, of course. It's going to lose some efficacy.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] Yeah. Just like you and I have got older. In the last hour. I have degraded in an hour. But noticing, noticeable, not that much, hopefully. So yeah, dude, that's the best thing we got for you.

Speaker 1:
[49:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:14] But be good to your, just be good to him. Something with Tessa, Tessa Merlin, I would not put mixed with cold water. And I wouldn't actually keep in a fridge, especially if it's not too cold. I keep it in a cool, dark place. And I would do it like guys, just use the peptides fast. Only a few things you should be able to use last longer than 30 days.

Speaker 1:
[49:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:33] In the same bottle.

Speaker 1:
[49:34] Seriously.

Speaker 2:
[49:35] And like definitely don't get, hey, I got to take these three peptides for this cycle. Let's mix all three of them.

Speaker 1:
[49:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:40] Don't do that. Don't mix all your HGH vials. Mix one, use it. Mix one, use it. And don't let bacteria in. The bacteria will, you know, if not killed by the benzalkyl, will kill that. All right. Next, Europe.

Speaker 1:
[49:56] What causes NAD plus to crystallize? And what can I do about it? Who is with this stuff?

Speaker 2:
[50:03] I don't know. If you actually, makes it with no sting water. Try that. It'll make it, it'll make it crystal less. Depends on how much water I would add. See if you can add more water. I have no idea what the dilution that you're putting in there. I think with NAD, the easiest thing to do is if you have 1000mg NAD+, put 10mls of water in. If you have 500mls, or I mean 500mg NAD, put 5mls of water, right? You want to make sure you have enough water. If it is, now most, you'll see that most NAD is coming in a amber vial, okay? Why is that? Well, that is to help to not have light get into it. Okay, they make that specifically because NAD is particularly, I guess, expensive and susceptible damage through light. So don't, you know, and watch your, obviously your solvent. Let's see. It depends, I mean, at some cases, like maybe your NAD just isn't that good. Okay, maybe it's user error. I don't really know, but if you would, the only I can control is the products that I know specifically. So I don't know. If you got a product that I suggested to you, then you can ask us. I can walk you through that problem, but there's a variance of reasons. It's falling out of solution, so it's crystallizing. But why? To you, Mcdo. Sorry, my printer failed again. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1:
[51:47] I'm 44.

Speaker 2:
[51:48] Yeah. All right. I'm a 44-year-old mother of three, sober 18 years, 5'7, 128, very active, stay-at-home mom, as well as a trained social dancer. I wondered what that was. What does that mean?

Speaker 1:
[52:06] I have no idea.

Speaker 2:
[52:09] Social dance?

Speaker 1:
[52:11] Social dancer.

Speaker 2:
[52:13] Is that line dancing? Anyway. We're both. I don't know. Maybe not to get this out, but four hours a week. So trained social dancer, four hours a week. I only occasionally lift weights at the gym once or twice a week. I had just started taking Tessa Merlin at 500 micrograms daily last week, as well as 1.3 Migs of Reda weekly. And I'm trying to tone up even more. I previously tried CJC, no DAC plus epimerelin, but even at a low dose, my instant and high fluid retention was just too uncomfortable. We didn't look good, so I stopped after two weeks. I've only tried growth hormones at cretogogs but I've heard mention of IGF-1, LR-3, and HGH. What is the difference in the IGF-1, LR-3, and HGH? Should I switch to one of those instead of growth hormone-releasing hormone? PS, please consider providing the same sort of hormone information for women as you give for men. Thank you. Noted. It's been easier for us to research our whole lives about hormones on men because it pertained to us, but I totally feel it. That's a valid request. We're just maybe just a little bit behind the curve on the knowledge of that. Now we're learning. We know.

Speaker 1:
[53:29] We've been bringing people on, though.

Speaker 2:
[53:30] We know more for men.

Speaker 1:
[53:33] Some people on the talk about it. So we'll continue to do that because I know it is increasing, man. And we have heard so story after story of women getting on testosterone or hormone replacement and it changing their lives, man. So it's pretty awesome to see.

Speaker 2:
[53:47] And poor women, they're just so damn complex, like even their bodies compared to us, you know? And so they got a whole bunch more weird shit going on, like it's worse and different, you know, the ovulation thing. I mean, there's just a lot, okay? And so my heart goes out to you, managing those hormones, which are a lot to manage. Okay, so answer is, or I mean, question. So should you take, hey, can I take IGF-1 or IGF-3 instead of the secretagogues or HGH? So I guess think of it this way. Secretagogues and HGH, put those as like, that's the question of an either or, okay? They are both trying to accomplish the same end goal. They are the full spectrum HGH, telling your body to burn fat, have boost metabolism and grow everything, which means heal from injuries, heal muscles faster. Also sleep well, less wrinkles, more hair growth, right? That's the growth portion of it. So the secretagogues, whether it be CJC, epimerellin or testimelan, epimerellin, those are doing it the body's natural way. They are stimulating, they're stimulating the very start of the process and hoping for the end result. Very start of the process is pituitary, stimulated. That gets going and says, hey body, let's make more natural HGH, okay? And then your body, hence the peptides, are just signaling molecules. So it signals the start of the chain, right? And then all these chain reactions occur. And now your body promotes and produces more of that full HGH spectrum, okay? HGH, human growth hormone, the actual like hormone, when injected like exogenously, is the end result, okay? It's not, it's bypassing all those steps. It is just giving you the end result for your body to use, okay? B-set boosts metabolism, boosts growth.

Speaker 1:
[55:53] To that.

Speaker 2:
[55:54] IGF-1-LR3 is the pure, essentially, like end product of the growth portion. It's kind of like AOD, but the opposite, right? Like AOD is just the fat burning part of the chain, right? And IGF-1 is just the growth part of the chain.

Speaker 1:
[56:09] Trying to grow.

Speaker 2:
[56:11] And so, it's just the end result. Now, IGF-1 is more potent for muscle building, 100% than either of those. It also potentially comes with the most, like, side effects, you know, blunting, insulin sensitivity, hyperglycemic. So, you don't want to do this for long term. So, IGF-1 short term, six, eight weeks, stop, break. Growth hormone secretagogues, shit, do them. I mean, I would still do them for 90 days, 120 days, take a couple week break, maybe do the different one, and then just rotate that forever. Or if you're gonna do HGH, you do it and you just do it. You keep going. Both of them are just, are long term, really to get the max full spectrum benefit, long term. Like HGH, I'm telling you people, like, don't even expect it to work for six months. But five years down the road, after very consistent use, you're gonna look like you did when you started, right? Which is five years younger. So long term, IGF-1, just muscle building added in for short spurts when you know you're gonna be trying to build muscle and you know you're willing to eat some good protein and hit it hard and then stop.

Speaker 1:
[57:26] Yep. So for her, no.

Speaker 2:
[57:28] No, it's for her.

Speaker 1:
[57:29] Don't do that.

Speaker 2:
[57:31] I wouldn't do the IGF-1 unless you're lifting. I would, and I don't know, what was her age? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[57:36] 44.

Speaker 2:
[57:37] Okay. Still, I would understand the CJC IPA. It's just really strong and it causes that water retention. Good for you for noticing. Give the, I would do the Tessa IPA. Give that a good 120 days and maybe give that a break, do it again and see how that feels. You can start the HGH. I don't know, maybe wait a little bit to a little bit older. It'll be more effective now. And I guess I'm just not, I really aren't, I'm really not that worried about side effects for HGH. I gotta just kind of tell you what, I'm really not that worried about it.

Speaker 1:
[58:09] At low dose.

Speaker 2:
[58:09] At low dose. Women, one IU a day.

Speaker 1:
[58:12] That's it.

Speaker 2:
[58:13] Seven days a week. In the morning, on an empty stomach. It potentially, you do that thing at night, you'll read up that, you'll read on the internet oftentimes with doctor's offices saying, hey, we administer HGH at nighttime. And then people go, oh, well, I should do it at night. Well, here's the deal. The doctors are giving it to people who are like very low, critically low in HGH. And at night when we're sleeping is our biggest pulse. And so you're not making much of a pulse. So the doctors are replacing that. But if you still have a healthy pulse at night, but then you give yourself HGH, your body will go, hey, look how much I got. Let's not make as big of a pulse. So I do it in the morning where you don't compete, let your body do a good job at night. In the morning, do it when your pulse, not very good. So it doesn't matter if it gets replaced.

Speaker 1:
[59:03] Yeah, I think she just started what she said last week with the red and the Tessa. So I would just keep stick with that. You know, I see, I think a little bit goes a long way, especially you just started it. So give it a shot. I would just very simply add AOD. I've talked about it numerous times, just Tessa and AOD. The experience that we speak of, I just have my wife on it numerous times and it just radically changes her body. So I would just stick with what you're doing. Don't add anything except for the AOD. You could add in some HGH later, but start there, go slow, see how you do. Just keep it easy. Just do that. Let's try more.

Speaker 2:
[59:39] All right. You're up.

Speaker 1:
[59:40] Me? All right, guys. I started to listen to your podcast for the past couple of weeks and now I love it. You guys do an awesome job at breaking down quality knowledge. Keep it up. I'm 28 years old, six to seven days a week. I train six to seven days a week. I eat four to five meals a day, super clean and do cardio four to six days a week. I was on SSRIs for about seven months due to having severe anxiety and depression. My mental health wasn't the best. I decided not to take anymore due to giving me bad brain fogs, which I couldn't cope with anymore. My testosterone was at 315 and pre-testosterone was at 15. I've just ordered Ceylonc and C-Max and just can't wait to try it. I think those would do well for you. I just wanted to know your best choice for boosting mental clarity and permanent energy throughout the day. I own my own business and work six to seven days a week. I just didn't want to find an alternative peptides, but I would love to hear from you guys. Thanks for keeping it up. Keeping it real. Cool. Keep killing it, guys. I think that's great. I've never been on SSRIs. I don't know much about that. But I know a lot of people are. I love that you're off it. For me, I think abstinence is always the best, but I do know some people need it. My wife needs a tiny, tiny bit. You've seen her on and off it, and trust me, she's better on a tiny, tiny bit. She does a tiny, tiny bit. I have changed with my idea on that. So some people just need it, but dude, here's the thing. You're 28. This is crazy. But this is the epidemic going on into the world that we live in. You have 315 testosterone and 15 free testosterone. Dude, you must be tired.

Speaker 2:
[61:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:38] Like, let's talk about the SSRIs and brain fog and all that stuff, which is probably the genesis of the problem is your testosterone. You're not supposed to have 315 testosterone. You're not supposed to have 15 free testosterone. That's not how God created us. I think if you just fix that problem, even though you're 28, holy shit, whatever, you need to be on testosterone, dude. The jury has come back and that alone will change a lot of your problems. Now, if you're anxiety driven and depressed, I don't, the C-Long and C-Max will do good with that. Russians used it for that. But dude, testosterone alone is going to change your life, bro. You're going to be feeling vigor. Brain fog should be gone. You're going to feel like a man. And just, you work six to seven days a week, and you work out a lot. You're probably, because you're so young, you're able to do that. If you were 20 years older, you're probably going to do that at those levels. But just changing your testosterone, dude, is going to change it. I would start there. You can still do the C-Long and the C-Max, but start with just getting your testosterone, dude. And then we can adapt from there.

Speaker 2:
[62:45] Right. It'll change your life, dude. That will probably. Maybe you might be 28, but those scores just scream that you have to have it. Some people can put it off like you really should, and that will probably just solve all of these problems.

Speaker 1:
[62:59] Literally.

Speaker 2:
[63:01] Also, though, here's some other testing that we were talking about. Okay. I have been on SSRIs before, and serotonin reuptake inhibitor, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, and basically serotonin is our neurotransmitter that makes us happy but calm. And I, too, had I got on it like after I got a detox at one point. I was like, I'm so depressed. Duh. I've never been a depressed kid, you know? But like, hey, when you do drugs, then you stop them. You're depressed. So I started taking it, and I didn't take them for a while. And then I was like, I'm so tired all the time. Like, so that's your brain fog. Also, long-term SSRI and drug use just will kill, will hurt your testosterone, you know?

Speaker 1:
[63:50] There you go.

Speaker 2:
[63:51] So I feel you, dude, get off of that. Now, I mean, I don't want to sound too hypocritical, but like Tessa Fensi, guess what? It's a triple, it's an SSRI. It's a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, which is what Wellbutrin is. And it's a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, but is like the best of all of those worlds, and actually made at different concentrations. This stuff's cool, man. It's also, but it is something that you don't want to just stop. You want to, if you're gonna stop doing it, you probably should wean down a little bit from Tessa Fensi, so if you start and you make a habit, just know that. You may not need that at all, though. I would probably, I would go with the testosterone first, see if that solves all your problems, then go on. There's another one coming out, Peptide Illuminera, which is going to be a whole new tropic blend. I'm excited about that. We'll tell you when that stuff comes out. Okay. And that's it, bro. Keep going, man.

Speaker 1:
[64:51] Keep going.

Speaker 2:
[64:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[64:51] Get on the testosterone for a month and then let us know how you feel, dude. Yeah. I feel like Superman.

Speaker 2:
[64:57] Yeah, for sure. Give it a month. Give it a month. Let us know if you got questions. Okay. And yeah, you have a lot of hope in the future. All right. I'm up. Hey, guys. Love the podcast. I'm 26 years old, weighing in at 70 kilos. Very recently, I dialed in and fixed my diet training with the help of Reta. Early January, weighing in at 86 kilos. I'm now currently cycling on and off. Cloh, as I suffered years of inflammation from poor mobility, which I struggle as I play rugby in the rugby league. Duh. Since starting this journey, I'm now running pain free and playing well. I'm also stacking with Reta, Tessa Morellen, one meg a day, fasted before bed. I was wondering, is there anything I can take without having to branch into the steroid world to build my lean muscle mass but still lose fat? Keep Up The Good World would love to hear from you guys. I'm a massive fan of From The Land Down Under. Whoop, whoop, whoop.

Speaker 1:
[66:01] I'll see you, baby.

Speaker 2:
[66:04] Cool, man. Rugby is a rough sport. Good for you. You guys like that stuff.

Speaker 1:
[66:06] 26.

Speaker 2:
[66:08] Did you say he's 26 years old? Oh, shit. All right. My dad played rugby. And my dad also, he pitched from the Oakland A's in the farm. He ran track. And you, dad, but I was a little kid. And he would teach me, well, it's just one-on-one, just rest like scrumming. We'd put the ball in the middle of us and just like, you know, push against each other. And then tough to play rugby with one-on-one because you have to kick the ball to somebody else. But anyway, so we have blast. But he said he played some some guys who were tough. And it was like, yeah, not built for this. I thought skinny. So I think that what can you do to so sloop SLUPP, you're an athlete, you want some fat burning. Like, I mean, I can't believe that the rugby doesn't burn all the fat you need, but sloop. What the cool thing here is like, it's going to boost your endurance. It's going to help nutrient partitioning. So you're not going to like lose as much muscle when you're eating, because the food that you eat, your body's going to go, oh shit, nutrients, vitamins, minerals, protein, let's go to the muscles, okay? And it will boost your endurance and it will help burn fat. And it's not a steroid. Carburetine, getting a little closer to steroid-y. GW501516 is awesome. That will just boost the hill of your endurance. And you'll be running circles around people. And it will prioritize fat before sugar. So it kind of puts you in the state of ketosis. So you're going to burn some good belly fat with carderine, but you're also going to kick ass on the field. And yeah, that's about based on what you're doing. Well, like I wouldn't do any more reddit because you're not going to have enough energy to run around. Because you're not going to eat enough food. I would try one of those men and go. Yeah, tell those.

Speaker 1:
[68:00] Yeah, I think that's good, dude. I mean, there's many options. Sleuths, great. You can use card. Yeah, I mean, you got it. MK 677, like I said, IGF one, obviously AOD. These are just some that you can try. Nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, diet, diet, diet, lift, heavy, eat a lot. You're young. You're obviously running a lot. You can, if you're 26, dude, so you can throw on a little bit of fasting like me and it'll go a long way for a 26 year old. If you could like three days a week, maybe just cut out breakfast and just eat from like 12 to 8. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You'll see a huge, huge, huge difference for sure, because you're 26. It'll work really well. So, you know, as I said before, that supplements are great, but you know what? If you get back to the basics and just do some of the things that God gave us, which is nutrition, lifting heavy shit and fasting, you're 26. It's going to work really well.

Speaker 2:
[68:56] I would say creatine also, dude. That's a good over-the-counter, like good performance enhancer that...

Speaker 1:
[69:01] Love creatine.

Speaker 2:
[69:02] It is, it really friggin works. And so people say, so here's going to be the thing, is people go, oh, well, creatine like makes you pull your muscles. Okay. Okay, that can happen, but it's not because it makes your muscles weaker. That's the general thought, is it makes your muscles weaker or it starves them for water. It actually kind of does the opposite. The problem, here's why people pull muscles, is because it literally makes your muscles, so it's a ATP, ATP is our cellular energy, right? So it's making us do this really fast. You know you've burnt out your ATP when you feel your muscles burn. So ATP for energy, then it converts into ADP, which is the lactic acid. Now muscles are burning like, shit, I just exhausted my ATP, right? Well, creatine tells it when it drops the ADP, whoop, pushes it back up to ATP. So your endurance is longer and you are stronger and you have better output and for longer. So you give a person who has a muscle, whose now muscle is working is stronger without building any more extra infrastructure, right? It's just stronger and it thinks it can go longer. And now you're going to put more stress on to it. And it's not used to that, right? It's going to contract harder. And there is when we get muscle pulls, right? Because it's basically like working too well. It's not strong enough to do what it's mentally trying to do. And that's where we get some kind of muscle pulls. So it's not crazy. It's not going to just, you're not going to flex and your bicep tends to just, muscle's going to snap off of your forearm. So if you're taking creatine and running and being athletic, you know, just drinking up water and warm up like a person should and just take care of yourself and you should be just fine. But it really will help and will help keep muscle on and keep weight on you. Yeah, B12, I don't know, for you and the dude in the last question, just like vitamin B12 injections, a thousand micrograms a week. I don't know, that gives me, that'll help some brain fog, help some energy, et cetera.

Speaker 1:
[71:04] Hell yeah, I love you.

Speaker 2:
[71:06] Okay, I'm up.

Speaker 1:
[71:08] I think me.

Speaker 2:
[71:08] Okay, good.

Speaker 1:
[71:09] Just discovered your podcast and have really been enjoying it. I am trying to recover from a chronically dislocated rib in my back at my T-spine that I have ignored for too many years. Physical therapy is going well, and my doctor gave me Wolverine stock to help recovery. Wow, good doctor. But I live alone and have trouble reaching that spot in my back to try to inject locally near the injury is injecting my abdomen, just wasting the BPC 157 or will it have some benefit? Or do I need to try to figure out a way to get into that spot in my back no matter what? I think you're good, man.

Speaker 2:
[71:48] It's not a waste of time. It's not a waste of time. And it's not a waste of time, so I keep doing it. But if you can find a girlfriend who can inject you in the back, that's a little bit better. You know, we always say that BPC is not going to help structural problems. You know, it's not going to, if you have a dislocated rib, it's not going to put the thing back. But what it will do is once it's set back, how do things stay in socket? Well, they have connecting tissues. They have ligaments and tendons that connect to them and hold them solid. So that's why whenever you dislocate anything, you get tons of swelling because you've torn all those ligaments and tendons. But it's the only way that it got dislocated out of the joint. So it's actually a very good idea. If we can set it and we know it's set back in the right place, then fill that stuff up with BPC-TB and to help rebuild all those connective tissues and that strength so it doesn't dislocate again in the future. So smart doctor. Good job.

Speaker 1:
[72:45] Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2:
[72:46] Keep doing it. All right. Hey guys, love the podcast and the new community. So thankful for your knowledge on peptides. Finding reliable info on the Internet can be challenging and it's often conflicting anyway. 51 years old, male, currently on reddit, 8 Migs a week. That's a lot. Does that say that? AOD 0.25 Migs daily, AM fasted, GHK, CU, 1 Mig nightly, and Tessa, 1 Mig nightly. My question is when to start TRT and HGH? My goal is to lose more weight. I started my journey at 250, I'm currently 215, 13. That's awesome. Trying to preserve muscle while losing weight. Mainly making sure I get enormous, enormous, yes, GH protein. Should I start TRT and or GH now and when I get closer to my goal weight? Undecided where that is or what I wanna look before I gain some lean muscle. Okay. How old are you?

Speaker 1:
[73:47] 51.

Speaker 2:
[73:47] 51.

Speaker 1:
[73:48] Start it now.

Speaker 2:
[73:49] Do it now.

Speaker 1:
[73:52] Easy answer.

Speaker 2:
[73:52] It's gonna help.

Speaker 1:
[73:53] Yesterday.

Speaker 2:
[73:54] So like you've done a lot of really good work. Good for you. You know, you've lost a ton of weight. And through that, you have obviously guaranteed you've built some habits and you've learned a lot about yourself, right? Nobody loses 60 pounds or whatever. We're not learning new habits, new ways of doing things and yes, doing things consistently. So the worry that would be the 51-year-old before you lost that weight is that you're just going to keep up with those same bad habits that got you that heavy weight. And now you're doing tests and now your cholesterol is going to go up and now you're just going to gain a bunch of bad weight, right? And be lazy and horny and that's it. But you've proven it. I think now is the time. And now you're probably starting to plateau, okay? Because it just is what it is, right? The extra weight is easy to get off at the beginning. Then it becomes harder and harder. The test is not do nothing but like boost your metabolism. And how do we boost metabolism? We add muscle. So that map fat and everything is going to just even come off even easier and faster. Plus, your age is telling us you're ready.

Speaker 1:
[74:58] You need age. You're probably need it too, bro.

Speaker 2:
[75:01] Yeah, do it now. If you want to take a blood test and tell that, have that tell it to you, go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[75:07] Yeah. Whatever your goal weight is, you're down to 213 from 250. I mean, dude, you're doing a lot of Reddit too. I would try to start to bring that back and just really focus on healthy habits, diet. You're obviously sound like you're there. That's a lot of Reddit, man. I think Reddit goes a really long way. I'll pull that back a little bit, start to titrate that back and get on the TRT and HGH. That will help you on the AOD. You can replace it with other things if you want, like Sloop, like 5-amino-1MQ.

Speaker 2:
[75:42] You can increase your AOD to 500 micrograms daily.

Speaker 1:
[75:45] Yeah, you definitely want an AOD. AOD and I think Reddit work well together. But again, I think you're running a lot. I think you can get away with a little bit less, in my opinion. This is going to be a little bit cheaper for you, why not? And watch what the TRT does for you, dude.

Speaker 2:
[75:59] Yeah. And wean down from the Reddit.

Speaker 1:
[76:02] Wean down.

Speaker 2:
[76:02] Don't just stop, don't just drop from eight to four, right? Drop from eight to seven and a half for like two weeks and then go maybe down to seven. So just slowly, be easy on yourself. You know, it's not, it is not killing you right now, but it's a good idea to do less, especially if you want to be able to eat enough to add some muscle.

Speaker 1:
[76:22] Do that.

Speaker 2:
[76:23] So, but, and yeah, that's it, dude. That's it.

Speaker 1:
[76:28] Good stuff, man.

Speaker 2:
[76:29] These are good, these are good, good educated questions. I guess what I do like is like, most people nowadays who are sending, tell us what they're doing. Like, it's all actually smart.

Speaker 1:
[76:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:40] Like the dosing wise, like, okay, cool. Like even, even AM, PM, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:
[76:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:45] It's all good. We're not like, oof, boy, we're missing the mark on everything on this question, no?

Speaker 1:
[76:50] When did we start doing the Q and A? How long have we been doing the Q and A?

Speaker 2:
[76:56] Six months, right?

Speaker 1:
[76:57] Has it been six months? I don't know. It's actually, I think the biggest hit, people like the Q and A. It's great, man. The questions are getting amazing. Everybody's listening, everybody's growing. People are getting good at peptide. So, man, it's been awesome. We got the Peptide of The Week. We will probably record it on Friday. We got Paul back, TR coming next Tuesday. That's generally when we record the Q and A. We'll probably do Q and A Monday, Paul on Tuesday, just what's going on with the markets, blah, blah, blah. But we'll let them know on what we want to do. Maybe we'll do Tessa Fencing again on Friday. Should that one didn't get through. Maybe that's something we could do. We'll think about it. But join school, get enjoyed, hear them in the community. People are just getting so much information and trust us. In the next six months, it's going to be leaps and bounds. You're going to be loving it. We're going to have so much rad content on there. Obviously, it's controlled a little bit, but it's controlled mainly by us. And we had some cool stuff on there. Will and I even threw out a steroid cycle that we have a cutter and a bulker, because we can. You know, some people do that stuff, and they wanted to know, so we did it. So that can only be on those platforms. And we'll put a lot of that type of content on there. If you don't like that stuff, don't watch that stuff. But if you do, then you have that stuff. We're trying to really like, we love all this stuff. You know, we loved studying it. And you know, we've done that stuff when we were in our youth and we know about it. So it's just fun to, I don't know, I think this is really fun to like this push.

Speaker 2:
[78:24] Let's just like see what your, what my genetic potential is.

Speaker 1:
[78:27] Right.

Speaker 2:
[78:29] You know, guys gave me all, we give us this cool ass thing to like the try and we know how to make it function. Just way better. Just be careful at what risk, at what cost. But it's fun.

Speaker 1:
[78:44] Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 2:
[78:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[78:45] So awesome. We appreciate you. We will catch you on the next round.

Speaker 2:
[78:49] Good night.

Speaker 1:
[78:49] Take care.