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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[00:37] Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show. From the Relief Factor Studios, this is Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 3:
[00:57] All across America, we are Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 4:
[00:59] He is Eric Harley and I'm Gary McNamara. You ready for my favorite audio? All right, all right, let's go to The View. All right, now listen to what Sonny has to say, all right? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3:
[01:12] Sonny. Ever since I saw this audio cut yesterday, I can't get that song out of my mind and it's driving me crazy. All right, here we go, all right?

Speaker 4:
[01:21] All right, all right.

Speaker 5:
[01:22] You know, I just read that this war is estimated to have already cost us $50 billion. $50 billion, which is more money than this country has spent since World War II.

Speaker 6:
[01:37] I'm sorry, what? It's more money? Yes, more money than this country has spent since World War II.

Speaker 7:
[01:45] Oh my God.

Speaker 6:
[01:46] Is it?

Speaker 3:
[01:47] Ignorance really is bliss.

Speaker 6:
[01:48] Wow, $50 billion, huh?

Speaker 7:
[01:50] Yeah, $50 billion is since World War II.

Speaker 6:
[01:52] So we haven't even reached the trillions yet?

Speaker 3:
[01:54] No, no.

Speaker 6:
[01:54] Because I was mistaken, I guess.

Speaker 3:
[01:57] We haven't reached the hundreds of billions yet.

Speaker 6:
[01:59] I guess I was mistaken. Did we, all of us who are concerned about the national debt, just inadvertently put in too many zeros, Gary?

Speaker 3:
[02:11] This blows my, you know, you remember it goes back, what, 15 years ago? Yeah. Where I was swimming in my pool and I said, let's simplify it. Let's simplify the situation that we're in. Maybe me taking eight zeros off of everything in order to simplify it. Because what I said was, and again, I don't have the figures right here, what I was always looking for a way to simplify and within 30 seconds, give people an idea of where we are with the budget. Yeah. You know, and I would say, right now, we have a, it would be like somebody who makes roughly, because I haven't looked at the numbers here in the last six months, that makes $45,000 to $50,000 a year, is going to spend $74,000 next year. All right. That person has roughly $370,000 in credit card debt on a $45,000 to $50,000 job, adjusted gross income, I guess I would say on that one, adjusted gross income. It would be, and they have obligations over the next 10 years of $1,000,000 to $2,000,000. Yeah. And so we did that to simplify it, to show that if anybody was in that situation, you'd file bankruptcy right now. You're done, you can't. There's no way you can handle that kind of debt. But when she said $50,000,000, I'm like, Well, maybe me taking the eight zeros off was actually accurate because we have spent less than $50,000,000,000 as a country since World War II.

Speaker 7:
[03:59] Look, Elon Musk spent more for Twitter. Exactly. So, all of our problems are solved.

Speaker 6:
[04:12] Maybe Obama was right. The national debt isn't a problem because we were wrong on the numbers all along according to Sonny on The View. Can you imagine going into a serious conversation with real political wonks, you know, you're on a panel or something and go, well, no, I just heard today that, no, it's much less. What? It's, yeah, what was your source? Sonny on The View. What?

Speaker 7:
[04:40] But wait a minute.

Speaker 6:
[04:41] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[04:42] That's as good as The New York Times.

Speaker 7:
[04:45] Sure.

Speaker 3:
[04:45] That's as good as The Washington Post. Why not?

Speaker 7:
[04:48] Why not?

Speaker 6:
[04:48] I mean, The View airs every day. ABC keeps it on the air for a reason. We don't know what reason. I mean, they're getting viewers apparently. Or is it a Colbert thing? Have they been losing money, too? I mean, I know Colbert CBS, but. Man, I just would love to get in and look at the books.

Speaker 3:
[05:09] That's a great point. If Colbert is exiting stage left and he's losing what?

Speaker 6:
[05:16] He was losing $40 million a year.

Speaker 3:
[05:18] Was it $20 to $40 million? Something like that?

Speaker 6:
[05:20] Yeah, $20 to $40 million a year. $20 million a year? How do you stay on the air that long? How do you lose? It's a late night show. By the way, there's nothing good on the air late night. Our boss tells us before the show every day.

Speaker 3:
[05:33] Well, you know what I found interesting was the fact that they're like, well, they're just putting on some type of comedy show. No, they're not.

Speaker 6:
[05:41] No, no.

Speaker 3:
[05:42] What they're doing is they're basically, it's Byron Allen's company, right?

Speaker 6:
[05:47] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[05:48] And what a success. Man, what a success story he is.

Speaker 6:
[05:52] Oh man, you could just take that and set it aside. The Byron Allen story is unbelievable. He's achieved unbelievable things because of his persistence.

Speaker 3:
[06:03] But it's actually paid programming. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6:
[06:06] He's buying that time from them. And they've talked about that. They did say that there is a plan after his deal is up. They're working on something to replace whatever, his shows that are gonna be on.

Speaker 3:
[06:21] I don't buy it.

Speaker 6:
[06:22] What? You don't buy that they're gonna replace it?

Speaker 3:
[06:24] No, I don't buy that they have a plan for after his deal is done.

Speaker 6:
[06:28] Oh yeah, that they have a plan.

Speaker 3:
[06:29] Yeah, I think it's just a way to... To save face, because if you're doing it now...

Speaker 6:
[06:35] That's a good point.

Speaker 3:
[06:36] Because if you're doing it now, you believe it's throwaway. You believe that time period is throwaway.

Speaker 6:
[06:41] Well, if you're doing it and you... It's not like this happened overnight. It's not like Colbert came in and said, I'm done at the end of this season. And you're just learning this. They've known this for a while, and so that's a very good point, that if you're in the... Because we always take it down to the meetings, right? I mean, the meetings in accounting. Who's looking at the ledger at CBS going, oh, we got a 40 million, up to a $40 million deficit every year that is the Colbert Show, used to be Letterman Show. I don't know. I would love to go back and compare the books back in Letterman's day at CBS and see what they were like. I don't know. But then to say, okay, we've got nothing. Because think about it. You could come in with another comedian. Or are they creating some kind of buffer? Because if you come in with another comedian, I think late night television, that type of late night television talk show is limited. It's the one area where I agree with Jimmy Kimmel, where he said, yeah, it's, look, it's dying. Because people just do different things late night. It's not the same thing it used to be when mom and dad would, you know, basically close down shop for the night. And then before they go to sleep, turn on Carson or whatever. It's a very different dynamic. And they have many other choices. And that's true. I think it is, I just think it's a kind of a dying type of program.

Speaker 3:
[08:25] But, you know, I go back to the late 70s, early 80s. You know, again, I was paying attention to Carson. But when you think about when Letterman, you know, it was Letterman and Carson, and there was a big debate, you know, who the young kids watched, Letterman. And I remember watching Letterman. And it was actually you. Now, again, we only had three or four TV. Well, I mean, cable existed at that time.

Speaker 6:
[08:48] Yeah. But the fact is, it didn't really have much program. And cable didn't have the same kind of program it has today. And also, there wasn't streaming.

Speaker 3:
[08:57] Yeah, a lot of movies.

Speaker 6:
[08:58] Yeah, a lot of movies. There wasn't streaming. A lot of infomercials.

Speaker 3:
[09:01] Comedy specials.

Speaker 6:
[09:03] And reruns and, you know.

Speaker 3:
[09:05] Not cable. Well, cable, a lot of times, I mean, I remember thinking you had MTV that was relatively new. I mean, there were things out there. But still, it was extremely entertaining. You know, the one, what is it? Antenna TV runs Carson. Right, yeah. And it's hilarious because I'll wake up at 10 o'clock and I'll flick it on. And I won't keep it on long, but I'll have it on just for a few minutes because of the memories it brings back. And then I sit there and say, all right, what year was this? And I have to go and research it on my phone. Okay, he's got this guest, you know, what day? It's like, wow. And then some of the jokes are just corny. I mean, they're not, they're not precise like you see a lot of stand up, you know, comics, but it's still hilarious because you don't, you didn't view it as, I didn't view it as a Johnny Carson, the comedian, I viewed it as him getting together with Ed and the band and just, you know, just sort of hanging out with people who came in. And when I think about it because of his style, and you think about, you know, that remember the Morton Downey Juniors came in and that kind of show, whatever, but I've always, the more I watch it, I'm like, wow, it's sort of like a sit down almost podcast where you just hang out with the people.

Speaker 6:
[10:29] It really was because there were, and it was almost like, not everybody was in Johnny's Circle. You know, he had his own version of the Rat Pack, you know, but a lot of them were. There was a common thread, you know, so you would have, Dangerfield would come on, and, you know, whether he was in Johnny's Circle or not, it kind of seemed like he was. Buddy Hackett, these types of people, Rickles, Don Rickles, you know, these people were part of a group in the same era of Hollywood, and were also very good friends. And so that kind of, you know, built that, it was almost hanging out with him. So that's a good way to put it. It was almost like a podcast.

Speaker 3:
[11:09] Yeah, and when I look at it, I look back and I go, the jokes weren't that great. And you had somebody like, you know, the shtick of a Don Rickles or Ronnie Dangerfield was the same. But it was hilarious. But it was hilarious.

Speaker 6:
[11:24] And when they'd go to the couch, it was even better.

Speaker 3:
[11:26] Right, because of their personalities out there. I, you know, you look at what it's become, you know, you see Kimmel, he's not happy.

Speaker 6:
[11:36] No.

Speaker 3:
[11:37] It's not like, you know, he's got a grin on his face and it's like, okay, we're going to have fun tonight. You know, it's like, I need to make political points and I need to make political points.

Speaker 6:
[11:47] I need to tell you what I'm angry about.

Speaker 3:
[11:49] Right, and the same with Colbert. I just don't view that. You know, it's the same thing that you view your, you say that you're a entertainer, yet you're a political activist.

Speaker 6:
[12:01] Right.

Speaker 3:
[12:01] And I look, and that's what the brand, people don't buy the brand. And I've said this about, you know, the network news for the longest time. And whether it's, you know, any of the journalists, any of the political activists out there, they claim that they're journalists. And I've said the first problem that people don't understand is the fact that the brand that they're selling immediately, you know, is false. When they say we're fair journalists, nobody's buying it. They don't buy it. So the brand, the brand you're selling right at that point, forget about the substance or whether people like your personality or whether your story is, the actual story is biased. Once you've done it for a number of years and you keep insisting, you know, like with the Washington Correspondents Dinner coming up this week and Dan Rather, we're about journalism. Shut the hell up. No, you're not.

Speaker 6:
[12:57] You're political activist.

Speaker 3:
[12:59] You know, and they're putting this whole thing. And the public has recognized that. A significant portion of the public has recognized you're not journalists. Stop pretending that you are. So the brand right when you turn it on, the brand is false.

Speaker 6:
[13:14] Yeah, it is. Well, it's like you've hired a clown for your kid's birthday party. And instead of juggling and making animal balloons, they just show up and complain. Which I would probably find pretty funny, but the kids would. You know, it's the whole purpose of it is totally side.

Speaker 3:
[13:36] Okay, you've got me now thinking of the Seinfeld with John Fevro as the, as he goes, Bozo, who's Bozo? I never heard of Bozo. You never heard of Bozo the Clown? The Clown? You got to get yourself out of the 60s. I think that's one of Fevro's first appearances.

Speaker 6:
[13:55] Right, right, right.

Speaker 3:
[13:57] As the Clown. That was hilarious. But that's the first thing I thought of. You know, he wasn't a good Clown to be around.

Speaker 6:
[14:04] Yeah, right.

Speaker 3:
[14:05] And so, I mean, it was, you know, he did, the brand wasn't a Clown brand. And so, and I've always viewed that, that you can do a lot of different things, if you're honest with the public. You say, here's what I am.

Speaker 8:
[14:18] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:18] And for some reason, you know, whether it was, you know, you can look at Dan Rather, you can even look at Walter Cronkite, because Walter Cronkite admitted later on, yeah, we were biased, we were just biased in a more subtle way.

Speaker 8:
[14:31] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:33] But if they just came out and said, look, we're political activists, I'm here because of this. I'm not going to be fair.

Speaker 8:
[14:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:40] You know, I'm going to give you my opinion on it. At least you're being honest. At least you're owning it. And there is something that people will say, okay, this person's owning it. I'll listen for a while if I disagree with it, but they're being honest with me about where they stand. They're not lying to me right up front.

Speaker 6:
[14:58] Right. To take my clown analogy further, Damon Wayans, homie the clown, and living color. You know what I mean? Imagine in a serious tone that that actually happened because that was the funny in homie the clown, is that you've hired a clown, he comes out and he's, homie, don't play that. Homie, don't play that. Oh, man. It was brilliant. But that's-

Speaker 3:
[15:23] What a brilliant comedic family when you think about it.

Speaker 6:
[15:25] Well, the whole thing, if you think just the one show put that on display and it was underappreciated for the time and over the years, that appreciation for the comedic brilliance in that family and people like that they hired like Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey, I think a lot of the shtick kind of went, you know, on maybe some of it a little too long. But being able to pull certain characters off, Jim Carrey actually did a very good job. He did a very good job on that show. But the way in's, my gosh, the talent just never ends.

Speaker 7:
[16:01] And it's generational.

Speaker 6:
[16:02] It's in the blood. They apparently can't get away from it. But I love it.

Speaker 3:
[16:08] So when you look at it, and it all fits in, we're not starting, when we started this whole thing, we weren't talking about the White House Correspondents Dinner, but we never got to that yet this week. But with that whole thing, we're about freedom on the, shut up!

Speaker 6:
[16:22] Shut up.

Speaker 3:
[16:22] No, you're not.

Speaker 6:
[16:23] Shut up.

Speaker 7:
[16:24] It's, nobody believes that for a second.

Speaker 3:
[16:27] And that's one of the problems. When you look at these shows is the fact that you're lying about what you're selling up front.

Speaker 6:
[16:36] Yeah. I have to believe a lot of these activists in newsrooms are very afraid, very afraid of the fact that people are their own fact checkers now, of what Elon Musk said. You are the media, that people have their ability. We've been saying it for years too, in a different way. You have your ability to do your own fact checking. You don't need Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post. You don't need anything, just the will to find the facts.

Speaker 3:
[17:02] Well, as I said yesterday, when you're out, that you think of the Southern, and we'll get to this, the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I mentioned the ACLU, if you've seen those long ads are running during the day, they're not being honest with you.

Speaker 6:
[17:15] Right.

Speaker 3:
[17:16] They're telling you in a broad general thing, we're for voters' rights, we're for women's rights. And when you break it down, actually what they're for, if you said what they were for, the public would reject donating the $19 a month.

Speaker 6:
[17:28] Exactly. By the way, I was out yesterday because, as God as my witness, I thought Earth Day was a company holiday. So, sorry, I apologize for that.

Speaker 3:
[17:38] But as I said, I said, they've become what the fact checkers were. The left sits there and so on. We have the fact checkers, we have the anti-hate groups, where they've become the opposite of what they're supposed to be. We are Red Eye Radio.

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[18:41] Coming up, more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 3:
[19:09] We are Red Eye Radio, he is Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Look, not surprised that the judge in Virginia called the gerrymandering in Virginia and the vote unconstitutional and all. He did it on the process. But as I said yesterday, the one thing that nobody seems to be talking about is the history of how courts have looked at gerrymandering. And you look at what they did, taking basically a. State that was 6 to 5 and making it 10 to 1. That just wouldn't pass muster. And with any court, previous to New York attempting to do it back in 2022 or 2024, I think they did 2022 and 2024 when New York first did it. Because it wasn't Texas that started. It was New York that started it, right?

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Speaker 2:
[21:17] You're listening to Red Eye Radio from the Relief Factor Studios.

Speaker 3:
[21:24] And he's Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Well, this headline scares the hell out of me.

Speaker 6:
[21:29] Yeah, what's that?

Speaker 3:
[21:29] Flesh-eating bacteria found in Long Island waters leaves victims with a 20% chance of dying in 48 hours.

Speaker 6:
[21:36] Here we go. Here we go.

Speaker 3:
[21:40] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[21:43] Often coming from freshwater sources. There's, you know, if you look at the stories over the years, you see it.

Speaker 4:
[21:55] This is in ponds, not in the ocean.

Speaker 6:
[21:56] Yeah, right. So, yeah. So these freshwater sources, the bacteria that can grow, and man, it makes you not want to swim anywhere, except the pool.

Speaker 3:
[22:09] Okay, first detected in Long Island Sound, so it was in...

Speaker 6:
[22:13] It was.

Speaker 3:
[22:13] And also in the Gulf.

Speaker 6:
[22:14] Well, the Long Island Sound may have a brackish water, may have in some cases some freshwater mix, maybe.

Speaker 7:
[22:21] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[22:22] So...

Speaker 3:
[22:24] Originating in the Gulf.

Speaker 6:
[22:25] Yeah, which also has brackish water. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[22:28] Right.

Speaker 6:
[22:29] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[22:29] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[22:31] So, the Long Island Sound, when three people died from the infections back then, the nitrogen runoff from Suffolk County and roughly 360,000 aging cesspools and septic systems are leaching directly into the region's waterways.

Speaker 6:
[22:49] Oh, good.

Speaker 3:
[22:50] Mm. Wow.

Speaker 6:
[22:52] As this kind of report and then coupled with when it starts to become beach season, which we're almost here, then it's basically the bacteria that's found. And you can actually go now to a website and it will tell you the latest reports on levels of bacteria found in the water. And most of it is from human waste. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:18] Well, you know something? You never really, I never really understood until I owned my own pool.

Speaker 6:
[23:30] And you don't even have children.

Speaker 3:
[23:32] No, but about the chemistry in it. When you actually start paying attention, going, all right, oh man, look at all the stuff I got to pay attention to. Now I have a saltwater pool. You know, the saltwater content, the pH, the alkalinity, you know, the pH, you know, and just all this different stuff, the chlorine levels, you know, the good chlorine, the bad chlorine, you know, and understanding all this, and it's like, oh, time to use the oxidizer because you've got the bad chlorine, which is the dead remaining stuff that the chlorine has killed, and you realize, oh, to get water clear like this is a rare, rare thing. You know, when you see it, for example, occasionally in the, you know, in oceans and stuff like that, the beautiful waters.

Speaker 6:
[24:24] Yeah. Natural springs and things like that.

Speaker 3:
[24:27] Natural springs or huge oceans, whatever. But when you start getting to things like ponds, you realize that the...

Speaker 6:
[24:34] Stagnant water, it's not moving much. It's not, it doesn't really have any flow. There's not, quite often, most often maybe, there's not a river that, that, that pours into it and pours out of it. Sometimes there is, but there's not that current that keeps going to keep that water basically refreshed.

Speaker 3:
[24:54] So, so yeah, every, I think twice a year, I get the postcard, you know, from the city.

Speaker 6:
[25:00] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[25:00] You cannot have a green pool.

Speaker 6:
[25:03] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[25:04] You know, it's like.

Speaker 6:
[25:05] Oh no, most cities, yeah, or HOAs, but it is, cause there's, there's that, then it just becomes a mosquito haven.

Speaker 3:
[25:15] Oh yeah, that's the one thing, especially with West Nile and you know, we get that every year. Never been sprayed around where I live though. Never been on the, never sprayed since I've been there for 20 years, it's always north of me where they, you know, they have the traps out everywhere and they test the mosquitoes for West Nile virus and you know, boom. But yeah, I'm, I try to stay away from mosquitoes. I try to stay away from fresh bodies of water. I like the huge chemistry set that I have in my backyard that I may die of chlorine poisoning, but those bacteria are not gonna get me.

Speaker 6:
[25:50] Several years ago, my neighborhood was essentially ground zero here in North Texas.

Speaker 3:
[25:57] For West Nile?

Speaker 6:
[25:57] For West Nile. Wow. So I sold our jet skis to a neighbor who has like at the, still has, but they were younger then, I think seven kids. So you need something to do. He wanted those jet skis because it was a good deal. And also he needed something to do. And he had been recovering for two years and said, I just felt so bad. I haven't been able to do anything with my kids. I've just been basically bedridden. And it was, you know, it was very serious. All of it from mosquitoes.

Speaker 3:
[26:38] Well, it's the other, you know, Lyme disease, you know, the deer ticks and everything else. The thing is, when I was younger, never worried about it. Now that you get older, it's like, okay. I'm going to go hiking. There's mosquitoes out there. You know, there's, oh, what about deer ticks? It's like things I never thought about. It's like, cause if I get it now at this age, how might it affect me?

Speaker 6:
[26:59] I had a friend who eventually passed away from complications of Lyme disease. She got it and got it really bad. I saw the actor Sam Rockwell in an interview recently on YouTube with GQ and he was talking about, they were going through all those movies that he's done. And he says, oh, that was a tough one because as we started filming, I came down with Lyme disease. And he said it like matter of factly. And I'm like, dude, that's a serious... He said, yeah, I got bit by a bug and then, you know, I was in the hospital for a while and he didn't expand on it anymore. But it's a very serious thing, you know. And in Texas, we have plenty of insects. I mean, they're just... The mosquitoes are everywhere all the time. And the thing is, you can spray... There's stuff that you can spray on your lawn and whatever. It only lasts as long as until the next rainstorm or the next watering cycle. You know what I mean? So it really doesn't... It's not gonna... I mean, they're just... They're everywhere because you might be spraying, but your neighbor might not spray. You might take care of standing water. Your neighbor doesn't take care of standing water. I shouldn't speak. I have four rain barrels. But we stay on top of those though. That's something you have to do.

Speaker 3:
[28:22] It's like I always look forward and people say, do you really? I always look forward to the summer nights after the sun goes down in the middle of August where it's still 100 degrees because at that point in the summer, if it hasn't rained, that's one of your very few bugs.

Speaker 6:
[28:40] Yeah, the moisture is kind of gone.

Speaker 3:
[28:43] Except if I turn the lights on in my pool. That's the interesting thing. I've got the light in my pool. Never have it on during the summer.

Speaker 6:
[28:51] Ever.

Speaker 3:
[28:52] Because it attracts bugs like you can't believe.

Speaker 6:
[28:54] Oh, crazy.

Speaker 3:
[28:55] Especially around the June bugs.

Speaker 6:
[28:56] June bugs just decide to have a swimming party.

Speaker 3:
[28:59] And so people said, well, when do you have it on? I said, I actually put it on around Christmas time. I open up the back shades and I have it multi-colored. And so it's almost like it's Christmasy in my backyard. And I can see it from the rest of the house. And I said, but it's 35 degrees out, so there's no bugs. But what a pain in the butt that gets to be. But no matter where you live, as I found out, it doesn't matter where you live, there's challenges. It was funny, because I saw a guy, it was a realtor down in Florida. In fact, down in Key West, and talking about, if you're going to move down here, here are the problems. And it's like, nah, I'm not an island person. I need just in my mind to have the ability to drive as far as I want. And so I've never been an island person, wouldn't feel comfortable on an island. He said, you know, so many people worry about hurricanes. He goes, you know what scares the hell out of me? I don't know how those people up north live through those snowstorms. What if you get stuck and you can't move? Who comes to get you? And I realized stuff that I don't even worry about if there's a snowstorm. Yeah. You know, people, if they're not accustomed to it, absolutely panic. And it's like, well, you know, I'd rather have a hurricane because we've survived hurricanes and yeah, we've got the big legs on our house. So we've never been flooded. And so, you know, that I'd rather deal with that than deal with a snowstorm. And man, I'm just went, okay, but most snowstorms aren't like that. I mean, that's really few and far between. Plus you really have, you have, you notice unless you have those unbelievable snowstorms like the blizzard of 77 that I went through.

Speaker 6:
[30:44] I was just watching a documentary on the 1900 hurricane that hit Galveston September 8, 1900. And, you know, you have to be careful on the documentaries that it's, of what facts, you know, are true. Sometimes if you see them online, you know, there's, the facts can go back and forth. There's a lot of information to find, but Galveston Island at that point, I mean, barely above sea level, and it wasn't in 1900. They had a meteorologist on the island, and he, according to this documentary, didn't make the right call, didn't make it soon enough. When they finally sent the word to Washington, it wasn't, you know, they believe it was probably too late. He went door to door to some of the beach houses, telling people to get out of the way. But they talked about how Galveston was this thriving because of the ports, just thriving, had more millionaires per capita than some of the major cities. And it was just, I mean, the good times were rolling and then this storm comes in and then the horrific aftermath, killing thousands of people. And they basically had to, they ended up trying to put the bodies on a barge to sink them in the ocean. That didn't work because the ocean brought them back to the shores. They ended up having to burn the bodies in masses because they were afraid of disease spread. They thought that would kill even thousands more. So you look at a situation and the technology is vastly different, vastly different. I watched another one about Hurricane Harvey. How many people were killed in that one? Estimates are anyway, the reason they can't get a solid estimate or solid number is because entire families were killed and there was no one to report them missing. So they don't know, but it goes from anywhere from 6,000 to 12,000.

Speaker 3:
[32:51] Yeah, that's what I heard. I've heard 12,000.

Speaker 6:
[32:54] And so they believe the 12,000. These days, they believe the 12,000 based on information of who was living there at the time and those records. They assume those people, because they didn't hear from them, were lost. So that's where the 12,000 number got up to in recent years. But it's, they came in and basically raised the island. They brought in, I don't know how many tons of sand to raise the island. They built the seawall, which is it's 17 or 18 feet tall, 16 feet, 17 feet thick. And at the time was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, infrastructure plan and effort our country had seen to date. It was massive. Again, this is 1900. So that's helped save a lot of lives, but still those hurricanes can be deadly. And houses were on stilts back then, not all of them, but beach houses. But it basically wiped Galveston off the map. And the question rebuild or not, and rebuilding was something, I don't even know they would think of today. I don't know what the cost would be of rebuilding it if everything were similar in the numbers. They probably wouldn't, I'm guessing.

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[34:41] We are Red Eye Radio, he's Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. I was thinking, thought just popped into my mind in the last segment when you were talking about, you gotta be careful with videos you see on YouTube, and AI and their accuracy and everything else. It brought back, just a recent memory, it was a few days ago, and I just, I don't, like you, I don't pay for commercials. Or excuse me, I pay not to have commercials on YouTube, and it completely changes the experience, and I just let it roll. And all of a sudden, whatever algorithm came up, it was a thing on 50 things you didn't know about Western New York, which is basically Rochester, Buffalo, that entire area of Western New York out there. So you know it's AI, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna look for the mistakes. It didn't take long. They called Irondequoit, a suburb of Rochester, Iron Dequoit, Iron Dequoit, Iron Dequoit, and the Allegheny Mountains became the Allegheny Mountains.

Speaker 6:
[35:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:41] And it was hilarious. I'm just like, I mean, it's just like, wow. Who's putting these together and not editing them?

Speaker 6:
[35:48] Well, I saw one just yesterday on some of the best engines that have been made for pickup trucks. And the LS is legendary. It's a GM engine in Chevy and GM trucks from back in the day. But instead of the AI voice, it was clearly AI. It sounds real, but it's clearly AI. Instead of V8s, it said V8S. Because if you were to write in the script V8s, it would be V, the number eight, and then a small S, V8s, right? And plural V8 engines. And it said the V8S. And I was like, nope.

Speaker 3:
[36:32] To those under the age of 40, a V8 engine was actually eight cylinders.

Speaker 7:
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Speaker 6:
[36:39] I got a 5.3 liter. And it's great. But it's, you know, those are the things that, where you can tell, it's quite often a mispronunciation. And ad agencies are dealing with that. I actually had an advertiser tell me that recently that they're dealing with that. They got, they got kicked back because it wasn't saying things right. And they couldn't program it to say it correctly.

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Speaker 3:
[38:36] One of my favorite stories from the week was billionaire Tom Steyer getting the endorsement from Bernie Sanders and his anti-billionaire group. He's a billionaire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's CNN talking about it here. Here we go.

Speaker 14:
[38:53] Well, on the Tom Steyer of it all, he was endorsed this week by a progressive group. It's a group that was founded to oppose billionaires by Senator Bernie Sanders. They did so really openly despite the fact that Steyer is a billionaire.

Speaker 6:
[39:13] It never stops. Of course, when you're flying to the No Kings Rally, you get on a private jet like a king would have. It goes beyond hypocrisy. The hypocrisy is just the manifestation of the fact that they don't buy into their own BS. Yeah, they don't. They don't. I mean, he would love, no doubt, Bernie would love to take all the money from the billionaires or select billionaires because there's the other thing too, the no oligarchs thing. That's the no oligarchs tour, I think, that's actually the one where he was flying in the private jet. Same principle applies here. And that's exactly what you would build out because the organization, by putting an endorsement behind a billionaire, says we're okay with certain billionaires.

Speaker 3:
[40:19] Right. Because there are other people running that aren't billionaires. You would think that they would have a rule now that if you're going to run for public office, you need to give up your billions.

Speaker 6:
[40:30] Right. Hand it over.

Speaker 3:
[40:32] Right. Hand over your billions.

Speaker 6:
[40:33] Right.

Speaker 3:
[40:34] Because they're blatant. When you get to the point, remember the interview that Mark Kelly was doing? He was talking to some influencer.

Speaker 7:
[40:43] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[40:43] And she said, there's no need for billionaires. We should get rid of billionaires. She goes, you're right. There's no need for billionaires.

Speaker 7:
[40:49] There's no need.

Speaker 3:
[40:49] And it's like, you're an idiot. It shows that astronauts can be complete idiots that are completely clueless on so many things.

Speaker 6:
[40:59] Right.

Speaker 3:
[40:59] They may be good astronauts.

Speaker 6:
[41:00] Right.

Speaker 3:
[41:01] Doesn't mean they're good at economics.

Speaker 6:
[41:02] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[41:03] No, it doesn't mean they're good at any type of common sense.

Speaker 6:
[41:06] It's and it's exactly how a communist like Bernie Sanders would believe, look, we're going to have some oligarchs. We're going to have some wealthy people. It's just not going to be the you or the ones that disagree. Sorry, if you get out of line and speak against the state, comrade, we're going to take your billions.

Speaker 3:
[41:29] Soros, has there been a billionaire more involved in a political party over a consistent period of time than Soros?

Speaker 6:
[41:37] Not just giving money, but also funding protests. We know this, which puts the organization in place and gets it and keeps it at the top of the news by the other activists in the newsrooms. It's so apparent, yet people show up to these protests as if they're genuine.

Speaker 3:
[42:08] You see, in the California debate yesterday, they've held one again, I guess, because Bechera was in it. So many people have dropped out where he got the number of votes. It's like, all right, we got somebody that we can call a minority here. So we can have the debate. It's not all white people, but all the Democrats gave Gavin Newsom a B or an A for his fight against homelessness. And I think it was Bechera who said, well, I give him an A for effort. All right. Bianco and Hilton did not agree with that, the two Republicans there. But I watched part of that debate. Nothing came out of it. You can't separate yourself because you all believe the same crazy things. The only thing that you could separate is if you came out and talked like Bill Maher.

Speaker 6:
[43:11] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:12] If you came out like Bill Maher, that would separate. But there's nothing that separates any of the Democrat candidates.

Speaker 6:
[43:18] No. Well, I think... And... See, because it makes you wonder like a Rahm Emanuel, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[43:28] All right.

Speaker 6:
[43:30] Same thing. If they... Once they officially jump in, do they believe they can get away with talking like Rahm Emanuel or Bill Maher?

Speaker 3:
[43:40] Well, let me... One thing I was thinking the other day, how long are people on the left going to continue to do Bill Maher? They won't do any conservative shows, as we know.

Speaker 6:
[43:51] Right. How long before they start calling him an all-out conservative?

Speaker 3:
[43:56] Well, when does it come to the point where they say, you know, I would have never... Because I bet you Rahm Emanuel, because he was challenged by Bill Maher twice.

Speaker 6:
[44:05] Right. Right.

Speaker 3:
[44:05] I wonder if he's thinking, I don't need to go on Bill Maher because I keep talking about the things that my party does not endorse.

Speaker 6:
[44:14] Right.

Speaker 3:
[44:15] And I call them... I'm implying that they're crazy. And if I wish to run for president, I can't continue to do it. I just have to be quiet on it. And if I talk about it, put out my own statement that is never fully complete as to what I believe on the issue. It's like the broad brush. And I give the... Because we're talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center and I mentioned to you and I talked about it yesterday, the ACLU ad.

Speaker 6:
[44:42] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[44:42] Watch if you're watching. And it's on during daytime.

Speaker 2:
[44:47] Right.

Speaker 3:
[44:48] You know, it's on during the daytime. And I don't know if they're attempting to... I don't know what demographic they're attempting to hit on it because I've looked at the shows. They'll be like a Colombo on and the ad will be on.

Speaker 2:
[45:01] Right.

Speaker 3:
[45:01] And it's the... These are paid ads now. These aren't, you know, they're not like... They don't run them for free. These are paid ads to get you to donate to the ACLU. And when you look at the actual presentation of it, it's a much broader stroke, a much broader brush, which sends you in the complete opposite direction of what the average person would think the ACLU is about. We're the American Civil Liberties Union. We're concerned about the liberties, the liberties of people, people's voting rights, women's rights. And they just get to that particular point and went, well, the voting rights is about voter ID. You're fighting to get rid of voter ID. You want fraud in elections. You're fighting against voters. You're saying, voters' rights. I'm for voters. Who isn't for voters' rights? Voters' rights. I'm for voters' rights. I believe voters have rights. Well, what are you specifically talking about? We don't believe there should be voter ID. On women's rights, what's the women's rights? The women's rights is, men, the biggest issue for women, in the last election, was the radical transgender movement. Women's rights is men dictating to women that women shouldn't place, that women are weak, and the men should be playing sports, and men should be able to expose their genitals. I mean, it's like flashing, exposing, men playing against women. I mean, that's what their women's rights are. And when you go through all the things that they're saying, it's a very, you know, very umbrella, this is what we're about, rights, rights, rights, but they never talk specifics about why you should donate the $19 a month. And why don't they? For example, if I'm in a gun group, and I'm running ads for you to donate, National, whatever, Rifle Association, whatever, we defend the Second Amendment. We believe that you have a right, and here's what we're defending, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this. You can be very specific on it. You're not going to sit there and say, we're about gun rights, yet the people know, we wish to defend Second Amendment rights, and the purpose of you existing is to put in more gun control laws. You're not gonna get away with it. And so, I mean, that's, but that's when, when you look at whether it's, you know, I can take everything that I've seen this week from those ads to what's going on, you know, with the gubernatorial race and the debate they had last night. Democrats just don't talk specifics. Oh, immigrant rights, immigrant rights, immigrant rights. No, you're saying illegal immigrants have rights, but you'd actually tear apart what the ACLU is about. You know, what they are actually doing, they're the opposite. It's the reason that Dershowitz doesn't associate with them. I mean, the ACLU used to be Dershowitz.

Speaker 6:
[48:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[48:20] You would think Dershowitz when you heard the ACLU.

Speaker 6:
[48:22] Right. He was the face of it back then.

Speaker 3:
[48:25] And then they talk about the fact, we wish to protect constitutional rights. No, you actually don't. You don't believe. You know, we've, I've seen so much, it's getting me a little sick again because you've got the, I don't know, the people who don't want to offend anybody coming out and saying, well, you know, we need both sides to come together. And if we can come together, and if we can come together, both sides, both sides, both sides. And as we've said, let's actually talk the issues, and then you tell me where the compromise is.

Speaker 6:
[48:52] Right. Where's the middle ground?

Speaker 3:
[48:54] Right.

Speaker 6:
[48:55] Somebody define that middle ground. What's that going to be?

Speaker 3:
[48:58] What is, and they can't do it.

Speaker 6:
[49:02] Only some men and women's locker rooms will limit the number. I mean, where's the middle ground? Right.

Speaker 3:
[49:11] But it's the fact that, and it's frustrating because I think the Republicans could do a much better job. The Democrats cannot actually promote what they believe. Liberalism and the ACLU ad is what the evidence is to me that proves it, cannot actually tell you, this is why you should donate $19 a month. You need to donate $19 a month because we wish to protect, through sanctuary cities, criminal illegal immigrants in your town.

Speaker 6:
[49:41] Yeah, right.

Speaker 3:
[49:42] That on the women's movement, we believe that if a man says they're a woman, they are, and men should compete against women in sports, and men should be able to walk around naked in front of women if they claim that they're a woman. Be honest with what you're selling and then see what the donations, what kind of donations you get. On voters' rights, say on voters' rights, we believe that voter ID is wrong. We believe that no ID should be necessary to vote. We believe that fraud is an acceptable consequence of not having voter ID because we believe the state should never ask for ID in any way because we're the American Civil Liberties Union and you have a right not to prove who you are to anybody that you don't wish to prove who you are, including to vote or anything else.

Speaker 6:
[50:40] Right.

Speaker 3:
[50:42] Be honest with the people. Sell what you truly believe.

Speaker 6:
[50:47] They won't do it. They won't do it, no. No, they can't own it. They can't stand on their convictions. Because they know the moment they do that they'll be telling the truth to the people. And the willfully ignorant is who they count on. They count on willfully ignorant individuals to go along with what they're doing. Yeah. That's the unfortunate part right now of our society is the willfully ignorant are giving people too much power without even looking in to what it's all about.

Speaker 3:
[51:25] And it's really interesting because I don't know why, but I talked about the couple I met a few weeks ago, then I met a few other people this past weekend who talked, you know, who were clearly were on the left. They have no idea what's going on. They have no idea. I brought up, you know, that the whole Russia collusion was a hoax. They looked at me with glazed eyes. What are you talking about? I go, it never happened. Hillary Clinton is the one who funded. Remember the dossier? Well, yeah, that thing that we put together. Yeah, that was all lies. Hillary Clinton paid money to...

Speaker 6:
[51:55] Perkins-Cooey.

Speaker 3:
[51:56] Perkins-Cooey, who then transferred the money to Fusion GPS, who then hired a former British spy and others to create just made up stories about Trump.

Speaker 6:
[52:08] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[52:09] You're ridiculous. Where'd you get that from? They have no idea. They have no idea. And anything that you bring up, and I saw somebody out there, out in the streets talking to, about, they were saying, basically saying, this is what he said. What do you think? And it was not Trump talking about Iran. It was all Democrats.

Speaker 6:
[52:29] Right.

Speaker 3:
[52:29] And they're all going, well, he's an idiot. He's, and then she told them, no, that was Kamala Harris and that's Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 6:
[52:36] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[52:36] And they were furious.

Speaker 6:
[52:37] Right.

Speaker 3:
[52:37] Well, yeah, I have it right here. Well, I don't believe anything that I read. Well, I got that again this weekend. I don't believe anything I read. And I said, well, then how do you form your opinion? And they look at you. They haven't even thought that out. They haven't even thought that to the point. They look at you with the blank, and then they change the topic. Yeah, but what? I go, no, no, no. You said you don't believe anything that you read. How did you come to your opinion that what I'm saying is false? Do you know what I'm saying is false? Do you have the evidence? No, I just don't believe anything. Well, then how do you come to your opinion? And it's a circle. It's this ridiculous circle of totally delusional thought where no dots are connected at all. And you're like, where do you start the base discussion with that? For all the people saying, we all need to come together. How do you start a discussion when the people that you're talking to have no idea what the truth is? In order to have a debate, you've got to agree on some things that are truthful, right?

Speaker 6:
[53:41] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[53:42] In order to start the debate. When you've got the truth behind you, and they just deny that it exists, where is the basis to start a negotiation? It's like trying to negotiate with the Iranians.

Speaker 6:
[53:54] No, it is. And they're not going to change. No. There will be no changing for the radicals. And the willfully ignorant, by the way, it's not like, as you just pointed out, when they learn the facts, they just go, oh, well, I guess I'll change my opinion. It doesn't work that way because now they've already carried the flag. They've already carried the torch. They can't give that up. Once you've invested that much in it, you're in.

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[56:02] We are Red Eye Radio. He's Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and just a couple of audio cuts here concerning the California gubernatorial debate yesterday and how they can't even answer simple questions. But this was one of my favorite things on X yesterday. I don't know if you've heard this, but, because I know you've been busy this week, but the New York Mets had a 12-game losing streak. Apparently, they won yesterday. And it started after Mamdani embraced Mr. Mett, who was like the mascot. Jonathan Turley. New Yorkers are blaming the 12-game losing streak on the curse of the Mambino. After the mayor embraced Mr. Mett, of course, spending $253 million without a win is still better. That's, you know, their... their salary cap. Spending $253 million without a win is still better than $30 million on a grocery store that will not be built for years. At least the Mets are currently playing. Exactly. Yeah. And I...

Speaker 6:
[57:11] I love that.

Speaker 3:
[57:12] I guess they won... I guess they won yesterday, but that was just pretty hilarious.

Speaker 6:
[57:16] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[57:17] The curse of the Mambino. I think we can use that in other areas, can't we?

Speaker 6:
[57:23] I think we can.

Speaker 3:
[57:24] That's just great.

Speaker 6:
[57:27] Wow.

Speaker 12:
[57:52] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a free night stay anywhere?

Speaker 13:
[57:57] Anywhere.

Speaker 12:
[57:58] What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris?

Speaker 13:
[58:01] Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby.

Speaker 12:
[58:03] Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum?

Speaker 13:
[58:06] Hilton Honors, baby.

Speaker 12:
[58:08] What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives?

Speaker 13:
[58:11] Are you gonna do this for all 9,000 properties?

Speaker 17:
[58:15] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. Book your spring break now.

Speaker 18:
[58:23] K-Pop Demon Hunters, Saja Boys Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

Speaker 9:
[58:31] It's not a battle.

Speaker 17:
[58:33] So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

Speaker 11:
[58:37] It is an honor to share.

Speaker 18:
[58:39] No, it's our honor.

Speaker 11:
[58:40] It is our larger honor.

Speaker 12:
[58:42] No, really. Stop.

Speaker 18:
[58:44] You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

Speaker 12:
[58:51] I participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

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Call 800-4-RELIEF, that's relieffactor.com, or 804-RELIEF-USE-RED EYE in the drop down for your three week quick start at 1995. Gary, before we get back to the topic of the day and other stuff coming up, I want to explain my absence from the show here. Over this past week, I was out last Friday, and then Monday I was out yesterday. I'll probably, in fact, I'll be out tomorrow as well. My brother passed away last week. It was especially difficult as it always is for the family. Both of my parents are still alive. It has been especially difficult. Helping them sort through things, my brother lived alone. I did not have a wife or children, but he was a good man. He was a US. Marine, a national guardsman later in life, loved his country, loved his, he loved his relationship with God and was a very good man. We're still, again, kind of sorting through all of this as a family, but many of us have been through it. You've been through it, Gary, and we all go through it at some point. It was unexpected, and so that was something that really kind of, again, took us by surprise last Thursday morning when I got the call. It was based on a welfare check. We hadn't heard from them in a few days. And so we found out on Thursday morning, and I just wanna say thank you to everybody that's so far been involved in this process, the staff, the crew, and you for supporting my absence. But beyond that, the people who do the work, the first responders who go in and do a welfare check, the company we hired to help us sort through some things, his neighbors, his former colleagues, who have all been supportive over the years, and I know them because my brother had so much respect for them and they had so much respect and love for my brother. We're going to lay him to rest this Saturday. And it's just one of those things that we go through in life. And it's been, again, especially hard. This is the first immediate family member that I've lost. My parents lost a baby before I was born. So I didn't know my oldest brother. But this has been something that, again, it's been especially difficult. And we're certainly working through it. So thanks in advance to, I know our audience has been kind in the wake of your losses, Gary. And I thank you in advance for that because I know many of them have gone through it. And you deal, each circuit, each of those losses has its own set of circumstances. And this is no different. But we're getting through it. Everybody has been, in the family has been doing relatively okay as we kind of sort through it. Because thanks to my brother's organizational skills, there's a lot of it that became easier for us because we need to take care of any business matters, whatever that is left. But thanks to his due diligence while he was around, while he was alive, that became easier for us. But then as we settled from doing the business task at hand and making arrangements, the grief starts to settle in. And so, it became more and more difficult as we got past the weekend, taking care of certain tasks, and then just sitting down for the first time, many of us, several of us in the family, that just didn't really have a time to sit down. I went, starting again Thursday morning, I went for a couple of periods over the weekend where I was up for 27, and in one case, up to 40 hours, awake, without sleep. But it's what's required. I knew that I had to help do this, and my sister's been such a saint in doing so much of this too, where you do have to set the emotion aside in order to sort things out, to make sure that our parents aren't going to have to do this themselves. And that has been the case. My dad has been very involved, as he insists, but there are things on site in the house that, in my brother's house that had to be taken care of and secured, and we're getting through that part. We've taken care of the most important stuff in that regard. So, you know, I pray for anybody that's going through it. It's never easy, but we will have, again, his service will be this Saturday, complete with a 21-gun salute, as it should be. And again, I thank everybody in advance for their thoughts and prayers. Thank you. Marine, right? US. Marine, right out of high school, and then later in the National Guard. He served. He dealt with some issues. He never served directly in wartime, but there were some incidents, and I don't fully understand them, that had happened during his service. And there were some, again, some other things that he dealt with. We believe he died in his sleep, and he was 64. He would have been 65 in August. He had had some health issues in the past, and doctors were looking into that. I was with him as he was going through certain procedures, and some of his neighbors and colleagues were right there with him too. It was just amazing to watch. He's had some great support over the years, and I'm very grateful to know that. That gives us some reassurance, and gives us peace in knowing more about his life, but we knew that before he passed. And again, because you wonder, you wonder and you wanna make sure that everybody in your family's okay, but what their life is like. But he had plenty of friends and neighbors, one neighbor sharing with me as we were at his place the other day, how they exchanged gardening tips to grow vegetables and everything else. And my brother was very proud of the small garden. He was growing okra and he just loves okra. He was successfully growing okra and he was very proud of that fact, very proud of the fact that he worked a simple job later in life making a PVC pipe. But you and I have talked about success stories. Success can be measured, I guess, in many ways, but living below your means and taking care of your obligations, your personal obligations, business-wise. So he bought a truck in 2018. It has half the miles that my two-year-old truck has on it. Paid off, paid off his house a few years ago. And was again, setting it, had set everything up. He was getting some disability from the VA and also getting Social Security. And so he had set up things in life. And I do believe he had, you know, planned and helped. We talked about it, in fact, to live a long and happy life. But you never know. And he was prepared for that, you never know. And I think we all should be. It's something that that does make it easier on your loved ones, those left behind in the wake of a death, that have to make arrangements and figure things out as to what the estate has obligations to and everything else. It becomes very involved. But my brother was... He was the perfect Marine, following a directive, you know, being a good Marine or in the National Guard, a good soldier. And he loved his country. Again, he was very close to God. And, you know, without being a saint, none of us are, you know, was a good man and had respect and admiration for people. He didn't always express it, but for some reason he did around me. And he was able to verbalize it around me. And he would talk about it. And having a procedure here in Dallas one time I was with him, and before that procedure in pre-op, and he said, you know, these nurses and doctors, think about what it takes to become a nurse and a doctor. And then to be one, the job, you know, at hand after you go through all of that very tough educational process. But the experience of that is... And then his neighbors and his colleagues and former service members, and he talked about them again with respect and admiration. You and I have talked about this. In order to have respect and admiration for others, you have to have a true appreciation for their time, their efforts, their life experience. And when you have that appreciation, that comes from a place of love. You're considering what it takes and what that person has been through. And that's who my brother was. On the outside, you may not have, even if you were a friend of his, he may not have expressed that directly to you. But he was, that's who he was on the inside, because he did, for some reason, repeatedly with me over the years. And so we'll miss him greatly. But his legacy will be, again, that respect and admiration and true appreciation for others.

Speaker 3:
[71:28] Well, you know, you have the full support of everyone here on the staff, whatever you need. You know, I remember the movie, and it is true, grief is messy, and it doesn't make sense. You don't know when it's gonna hit. So whatever you need, you know we're here for you.

Speaker 6:
[71:46] Well, I appreciate it. And to that end, I want to say something, because we had a listener, Joe, who one time made us some buttons that say, tell us where we're wrong, what we have said for years, and made us some buttons. He, in fact, invited his wife, his lovely bride, Laurie, one night to stay up and listen to the show. Then they would sit during our breaks and have their own little talk show. Laurie shared this with me after Joe's passing. But being so close to Joe over the years, Laurie had a tough time when he was gone. My next door neighbor is going through the same with her husband passing in recent years. So people say that, well, at some point, you move on and life continues on. Life does continue on, but everyone's grief is different. It's at different levels, and you always feel it, but what you learn is how to deal with that grief. I learned through another person that Laurie had passed, and this goes back almost two years ago, but she wrote me all the time by email. She listened every night from the Detroit area, and she was just a beautiful person, and I know she and Joe are spending eternity together. I have no doubt, but for those who are grieving, we pray for you, and we pray that God gives you strength to deal with that grief. It will always be with you. It's how you deal with it, and we certainly offer our love and prayers for anyone going through it.

Speaker 3:
[73:29] Well, God bless you, and God bless your family.

Speaker 6:
[73:31] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[73:31] We are Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 2:
[73:33] Coming up, more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 3:
[73:52] We are Red Eye Radio, he is Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Eric, reading this from Bloomberg. Bloomberg reports that a potential bailout of Spirit Airlines could result in the federal government owning up to 90% of the airline.

Speaker 6:
[74:06] Okay, is that helping 90% of an airline?

Speaker 3:
[74:15] Mr. President, stop it.

Speaker 6:
[74:17] Yeah, we don't need this.

Speaker 3:
[74:19] We don't need the federal government having equity in any company.

Speaker 6:
[74:22] Right.

Speaker 3:
[74:23] Stop it.

Speaker 6:
[74:24] Right.

Speaker 3:
[74:24] It's a dumb socialistic idea. Stop it.

Speaker 6:
[74:27] Yeah, no bailouts. If they're not viable as a company, I don't want to see people lose their jobs.

Speaker 3:
[74:33] Then do I.

Speaker 6:
[74:34] But it happens in business, and if they're not viable and there can't be a merger or an acquisition involved from the private sector, no. The government taxpayer dollars should not be a part of this taking over an airline. No.

Speaker 2:
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