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Speaker 1:
[00:00] The Southern Poverty Law Center is an important cog in the wheel of the Democrat machine because it plugs in to so many things that allows them to exert control.

Speaker 2:
[00:10] They would work hand in glove with the Biden administration to be like, this is an extremist group, this is an extremist group. And Biden's FBI was like, oh, okay, so you're telling us that these moms who show up to school board meetings are extremists? And SPLC was like, yes, go get them.

Speaker 3:
[00:24] And in this case, allegedly funding a Ku Klux Klan in order to actually convince people of all of this.

Speaker 2:
[00:32] Well, white supremacy wasn't the problem. The problem was SPLC needed to raise some money.

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Speaker 3:
[03:13] Welcome back to the Ruthless Variety Program. I'm Josh Holmes, along with Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook, left to right across your radio dial. Been an eventful week here in our nation's politics. We're going to get to all of it here in this particular program. But there's one thing I think that happened that was actually super significant that you're just not going to read about, because it's, well, it's problematic for Libs. Yeah. You know, I mean, everybody, I don't care where you are at, you have surely heard about the Virginia special election ballot question that made a 6-5 congressional delegation a 10-1 outcome by the skin of their teeth, because that's good for Libs. So you've heard about that. There was an other side of the story that happened the very same day that happens to deal with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 2:
[04:08] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[04:08] So the Attorney General, Todd Blanch, Acting Attorney General, Todd Blanch, announced an indictment. And I was like, wow, that's really interesting. This is one of those outfits that has operated under the guise of being an old school civil rights organization. It was developed in the early 70s, sort of a corollary to Martin Luther King, the legacy of Martin Luther King, founded by attorneys that were charged with the idea of exposing and either prosecuting, litigating in one former fashion, white supremacy, where it existed at the time. Under the guise of a lot of things that were sort of agreeable at that point in time, it had become over time more and more partisan, where at some point it just straight up became not just a tool of the Democratic Party, but like a fringe tool, that even the Democratic Party was like a distance, right? They didn't send out press releases from the Southern Poverty Law Center in the same way that they do like the ACLU, for example. They're not touting endorsements from the Southern Poverty Law Center. They're just there to do the dirty work. This became more prevalent when we got into the era of them breaking the internet.

Speaker 1:
[05:42] Yeah. This is really important for people to understand, because we have talked on the Variety program ad nauseam about the Democrat NGO complex and how those two things work together. The Southern Poverty Law Center is an important cog in the wheel of the Democrat machine, because it plugs in to so many things that allows them to exert control. Holmes, you just mentioned censoring on the internet. They were a major part of that. They would go to huge multinational conglomerates and pressure them to stop ad revenue from going to sites or personalities or organizations or media companies that they didn't like what they said. It was a way to stifle free speech. And if anybody ever asked about it, it was like, well, Southern Poverty Law Center says this. This is a hate group.

Speaker 3:
[06:38] It's not me that's saying it. It's the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 1:
[06:41] You want to fund hate groups? Of course you can't allow ad revenue to go to this, you know, YouTube channel or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[06:48] That's the thing is like, so if you look at the modern left right now, how they exist and how they exert their force, whether it's organizing boycotts via companies, being like, well, your ad revenue can't go to the Daily Caller because the Daily Caller is a hate group. They listed Charlie Kirk and TPUSA as a hate group. Think about that. So they used their original reputations being like, oh, you know, this is continuing Martin Luther King's legacy. This is a civil rights group. And they eventually became a center cog in the entire left machine of being able to smear anything to like the right of Bernie Sanders as being a hate group and a Nazi and someone who's dangerous. And they'd pressure companies to have nothing to do with it. They pressured Amazon into being like, you can't carry books by this individual because this is a hate group. They were the group that's responsible for labeling moms in Northern Virginia as being radicals. And after you attend a school board meeting and saying that Catholics are, that's a hate group. What they're doing out there, they labeled the number of group moms for liberty, the number of groups that the Southern Poverty Law Center acted to smear that then they'd have pressure on media companies to be like, call these people a hate group, call these people a hate group. And you have folks like CNN, MSNOW, all of these groups that jump on and be like, well, the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated this person a member of a hate group. And it gets even worse.

Speaker 3:
[08:23] And a very important tool when you can't argue the merits of your support or opposition for policy of the Democratic Party is just to simply label everything racist or sexist. But the weapon by which they use to support that claim is the Southern Poverty Law Center. And this has been the case forever. Now they don't, again, they don't go throwing out press releases about it, they use it in the backdrop for censoring purposes or labeling purposes. The Charlie Kirk thing is a perfect example. It was what two, three, four months before he was assassinated, that they labeled him an extremist and part of a racist hate group. I mean, think about that. Think about that. Insane. I mean, that's a wild accusation to make about somebody who was running a really pretty mainstream. And what they said at the time was that anti-government extremist group, anti-government extremist group. Well, they were anti-Biden administration. So that's where they hang their hat on.

Speaker 2:
[09:31] And that's the other thing is, eventually the Southern Poverty Law Center, whenever you had these elected Democrats, especially the Biden administration, is they would work hand in glove with the Biden administration to be like, this is an extremist group, this is an extremist group. And Biden's FBI was like, oh, okay, so you're telling us that these moms who show up to school board meetings are extremists? And SPLC was like, yes, go get them.

Speaker 1:
[09:52] The FBI, again, just to put a finer point on it, Biden's FBI was leaning on this organization, which had become incredibly partisan, to be investigating crimes in this country. Think about how whacked that is.

Speaker 3:
[10:07] It's just the wildest thing of all time. And just to enforce that point, the White House logs during the Biden administration showed that they had visited the White House 11 times during the four years that the Biden administration was in there. Eleven times, right? I mean, look, if you get 11 meetings in the White House.

Speaker 2:
[10:31] That's huge.

Speaker 3:
[10:33] You got a lot of swat. And so it all came to of great interest to us who've followed this over the years and various iterations that this group had presented itself when Todd Blanch showed up and announced an indictment yesterday. Well, clip one.

Speaker 8:
[10:52] I just want to make sure I understand. You're alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue their operations. Is that...?

Speaker 9:
[11:05] I'm not alleging it. The Grand Jury returned an indictment that says that. And so what the investigation found according to the indictment that was returned today is that they were paying it. So the Southern Poverty Law Center is raising money, asking folks to give them money to dismantle racism. And over a very long period of time, they were using some of the money they raised from donors to pay to... They called them field, you know, basically to informants to... For information, for access, to just pay them for certain... To do certain things. And so, yes, that's exactly what the indictment charge is.

Speaker 3:
[11:43] So let me just cut to the quick on that. What an indictment is now that's been returned by a grand jury is saying, is that the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is raising money under the guise of eliminating racism from our country, was actually taking that money, or at least a portion of it, and repurposing it to hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Because if you're trying to solve a problem that you'd have a hard time finding, you're certainly gonna have to create the problem.

Speaker 2:
[12:17] This is something I've been saying for a long time, it's probably been over a decade, but at least for a decade, the media has been regurgitating and saying, the biggest problem that we have in America is white supremacy. You had Biden's FBI director say the biggest threat that we investigate is white supremacy. The problem with white supremacy in this country is that the demand for it far outstrips the supply for it. So if again, you're one of these NGOs, I talk about the same thing with homelessness in California, where they spend enough, these homeless NGOs have spent enough to be able to buy every single homeless person in that state of house. They're not trying to defeat homelessness because the checks stop coming. So if the SPLC is like, oh no, white supremacy is down yet again, well, we'll create it so then we can get donors.

Speaker 3:
[13:03] When you're a professional revolutionary, there's not a great business model when the revolution has been settled. And that is basically what we're finding out about this, more from the press conference clip too.

Speaker 9:
[13:16] The SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred.

Speaker 3:
[13:29] Think about that. I mean, that's just right straight from the Department of Justice. You know, and there's an indictment that's been returned on that. One that I can't imagine you'd get a pool, a grand jury pool to agree with unless you had the sum and substance of it. And we'll find out in a trial what all else is there. But I mean, look, we're not done yet. Next clip, please.

Speaker 9:
[13:52] Between 2014 and 2023, SPLC paid at least $3 million to eight individuals at least. After SPLC paid members of these extremist groups, it created work product that reported on these activities that the members participated in or contributed to. And to that end, it was doing the exact opposite of what it's told its donors it was doing, not dismantling extremism, but funding it.

Speaker 2:
[14:22] That's insane.

Speaker 3:
[14:23] You know, I mean, look, it was hard not to be a conspiracy theorist in an awful lot of iterations of political activism over the years. But you saw it pop up from time to time. I think we talked about the Virginia stuff when Governor Yonkin was first elected, where there were people who showed up with signs like racial signs, where they would get the media to report on it and be like, oh, look, all these hate groups are there. It doesn't seem like there's a bunch of people in Fairfax.

Speaker 2:
[14:53] In one case, it was the Lincoln Project. I guess the folks who that they paid should have been with SPLC. They're getting more money. They're getting millions.

Speaker 1:
[15:02] It's not uncommon for nonprofits to raise money from donors and then produce a product. You hold events, you bring people together, you advance the cause and mission of the organization. You take a lot of photos, you put it in the end of the year annual report, you send that back to donors, look at all of our great work. This takes that entire model and flips it on its head and is like, our work funded creating the problem that we now need more money to solve. It's the self-licking ice cream.

Speaker 3:
[15:32] It is. It's like we would do a lot more business if there was just more racial animus out there. Let's go and see if we can figure out how to create some, which is what this indictment is alleging. He went on Ingram last night and I think put a finer point on some of these things that he's talking about in clip four.

Speaker 9:
[15:49] And it's extraordinarily egregious. You just talked about it, but imagine a donor to the SPLC, if they were told, by the way, we're gonna give the money you're giving us to the Ku Klux Klan. Okay? Like in some cases, over a million dollars. I mean, it's incredible.

Speaker 3:
[16:05] To the Ku Klux Klan? I mean, dude, it's just.

Speaker 4:
[16:10] What is going on?

Speaker 2:
[16:11] So imagine the Ku Klux Klan does their annual donor report. That's the other thing I'm trying to. We want to thank our generous donors at the SPLC, who accounted for what? Like 90% of our annual budget this year.

Speaker 3:
[16:25] How do you find a contact?

Speaker 2:
[16:26] Does SPLC at least get a table at like the annual dinner?

Speaker 3:
[16:31] Hey, who's the guy that we call at the KKK?

Speaker 10:
[16:33] What's his name? What's his name?

Speaker 3:
[16:35] How do you find a contact for the Klan?

Speaker 1:
[16:37] Our Activist of the Year. Everybody stand up and clap for David Duke.

Speaker 3:
[16:43] It's the Grand Wizard himself, ladies and gentlemen. He's here at the SPLC. I mean, it just, it blows the mind, but these are all real things. One more clip from Angrim, clip five.

Speaker 9:
[16:53] All we know is that they set up these fictitious bank accounts.

Speaker 2:
[16:56] Fake names, like the Constitution Group or whatever it was called. Then they had one called Fox Photography.

Speaker 9:
[17:01] Right, they're completely fictitious as far as the investigation has shown. And they were using it simply to funnel money to these individuals. The indictment talks about a situation where they paid an individual to steal documents from the organization and then return the documents. And then when somebody else took the hit for it, they paid that person too.

Speaker 2:
[17:20] My God.

Speaker 3:
[17:22] I mean, dude, this is like the worst of the worst. It's the kind of thing that you just like, when somebody would allege something like this, that doesn't come from a long investigation and a grand jury indictment, I'd be like, yeah, right. Like no way, that's not possible. Like nobody's that devious and horrible. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2:
[17:40] And one thing I think needs to be said about the SPLC is they accomplished one of their missions, which is to have a tremendous impact on the country. Because if you think about what this country has gone through for over a decade, of every day you turn on the news, you could even watch like ABC, NBC, CNN, and you're getting endless lectures about how this country America is so racist and there's so much white supremacy. Think about all these narratives that you've had hammered at you and at your kids in schools. Elementary kids being lectured that, did you know that white supremacy is the biggest problem? And all the white kids in here, I think you should really feel bad and you should think about what you've done here. All of this was a lie. That was manufactured and money's being exchanged hands to ruin this country because that's what this is doing. This is setting Americans against each other. They did this for donations.

Speaker 4:
[18:43] You know, everything that you guys have said is just jaw-dropping, but what really stuck out to me is this whole episode with the Charlottesville.

Speaker 2:
[18:52] Yeah, dude.

Speaker 3:
[18:54] Yeah, so to put a fine point in graphic too, if you want to put this thing up, F37, that's an SPLC informant that they were paying, was a member of the Online Leadership Check Group that planned 2017 Unite the Right event in Charlottesville, Virginia. You'll remember that well. It was a line of demarcation early on in the first Trump administration. F37 made racist postings under the supervision of SPLC and helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees between 2015 and 2023. SPL secretly paid this F37 group more than $270,000. So.

Speaker 4:
[19:41] You know, if you're listening and you're like the rest of us and you wondered where the hell did this Charlottesville thing come from in the first place, now we know.

Speaker 2:
[19:50] And here's the thing is, again, when you go back to the impact that this nonsense had, that created the very fine people on both sides' hoax, that then the media went and they pushed that lie. It's a straight up lie. Over and over again. And then it goes on. You have Biden say, the reason I'm running Jack is because of Charlottesville. This whole thing that was manufactured, paid for under the supervision of the SPLC, that was spread across TV screens across the country of like, look at how bad America is, look how racist America is. Trump is the one responsible for this. All of that was fake. It was all manufactured.

Speaker 4:
[20:29] And while their bullshit was ruining our country, it meant an awful lot to their bottom line. There was one source that said that they raised 63 million dollars before Charlottesville and over a hundred million after.

Speaker 2:
[20:41] Think about that.

Speaker 3:
[20:41] Well, and it also provided the impetus between somebody who has ultimately elected president of the United States, deciding to run for president, according to himself, as you said, Joe Biden. Clip 6.

Speaker 7:
[20:53] I ran for president in 2020 because of what I saw in Charlottesville.

Speaker 3:
[20:59] Think about that.

Speaker 7:
[21:00] In August of 2017, extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches.

Speaker 4:
[21:09] Yeah. Okay. It was F37 on some chat group, ginning up other SLPC or whatever.

Speaker 3:
[21:15] Being paid $300,000 by the Southern Poverty Law Center to provide transportation and some online postings to generate hate in a particular area at a particular time. That then the White House, ultimately, Joe Biden decides he wants to run for president, according to him, because of that event. But at the same time, they maintain really close connections with the Southern Poverty Law Center, meeting with them over 11 times, having the FBI of the Biden administration working hand in glove with them to identify potential problematic actors, like moms in Fairfax County or Tampa, Florida. And it just makes you wonder how much of it is just a complete theater entirely.

Speaker 2:
[22:03] And then like Ashbrook said real quick, how they're fundraising almost doubles as a result of this disaster that they created. Because they knew that they've been doing this for years. This is their formulas. Create the product to be able to fundraise off of. And so they do, they succeed. They get that huge 100 million influx. But that also becomes a springboard for them to go further in corporate America where PayPal, they start having meetings with PayPal where they're like, you can't allow these groups, these individuals. De-bank these people.

Speaker 3:
[22:38] No, it's a real thing.

Speaker 4:
[22:39] But it's not just dem politicians who this group is kind of like meeting with and has ties to on the sly. I think they're very deeply involved with a bunch of mainstream media. Let me just read you a few of the headlines of the way the mainstream media characterize this indictment. Okay, this is from USA Today. The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for paying sources to infiltrate hate groups, a tactic federal agencies have used for decades.

Speaker 2:
[23:08] Real quick, I just want to say, that is not what the indictment is for. The indictment is for wire fraud and making false statements. Number one, the media who has been so dependent on this, I mean, the media is in on the grift too.

Speaker 4:
[23:20] This is a press release. This is published by the USA Today. It's probably written by the USA Today, but it looks indistinguishable from what this organization would put out on their own website.

Speaker 2:
[23:33] And secondly, them trying to put out the message that like, well, this is a tactic that's used by federal authorities. This is a nonprofit group. Yeah, our nonprofit groups are allowed to have SWAT teams because federal agents have SWAT teams. Who thinks that's even a good idea to begin with? But that shows you how deeply enmeshed the SPLC is with today's modern media and why for over a decade, you've heard, America's problem is white supremacists because the media saw it's also a product that they can make money off of.

Speaker 1:
[24:03] I'm not shocked that the SPLC and the liberal media is trying to minimize this by framing it around the idea that they're just paying for informants, but clearly here in the indictment, it's more than that. You're actually funding the mechanism for the people to show up at the rally, right? Like, so you're funding the thing. And look, all of these are allegations. We don't know if they're true or not. We're gonna find that out in the court of law.

Speaker 3:
[24:26] There's an indictment.

Speaker 1:
[24:27] But we have a grand jury, and to your point, it's a grand jury. It's not Trump voters deciding that this case has merit. But I'm curious about maybe even more here. We saw Russiagate. We saw the way the deep state and our intel and law enforcement in this country can be weaponized by the left to take out people. It happened to Donald Trump. Is it possible that SPLC was a cutout for some of these government people to do some of that informant work that they wanted off the books? And maybe the people at the SPLC just got a little loose with the cash they were given. That's all an allegation. I don't know if it's true, but it would make a lot of sense that why they're minimizing it now around the idea of, well, we were just paying for some informants. We were gathering intelligence, just like our law enforcement does. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:
[25:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:23] It's smoke.

Speaker 3:
[25:24] No, I mean, look, you're right, and it's scary. But I mean, look, if you just take a step back and you realize that there's not a single Democrat policy that has been promulgated by this Democratic Party when they were in power at any point that has worked for the American people in the last 50 years. When you consider the fact that at no point other than a brief amount of time after the election of Barack Obama, were they ever popular whatsoever, the only time they were over 50% was in that period of time. So you would think their electoral chances would be pretty low. You've got to work pretty hard to try to win elections. We're going to talk in a bit about their redistricting, their gerrymandering over the years and how they've maintained power just simply by consolidating voters in different blocks and whatever, but this is part of it. They have to do the most nefarious shit on the face of the planet in an attempt to try to hold power in this country. It would never occur to any Republican to get involved in something like this. It just wouldn't. This is absolutely insane, and yet you have the Biden administration meeting with this outfit that's doing this shit and the guy who ran the impeachment proceedings against President Trump, Jamie Raskin. Let's hear from him. Clip 7.

Speaker 10:
[26:39] Now, in other times, Democrats and Republicans alike would rely on the Southern Poverty Law Center to help us keep track of the movements of violent white supremacy in the country. The Southern Poverty Law Center has been a vigilant voice in civil society against radical white nationalist violence and extremism, neo-Nazism, and other forces across the political spectrum that spread organized hate from any quarter. The president, however, wants to undermine civil society organizations and to reduce our ability to defend ourselves against the virus of racial violence.

Speaker 4:
[27:24] Oh, they're the ones paying the Klu Klux Klan.

Speaker 2:
[27:27] That's a thing.

Speaker 4:
[27:29] I mean, what the hell are we supposed to?

Speaker 2:
[27:31] It's all fake. It's all fake and it's all been fake. This country was in such a great place. You constantly talk about how growing up is like, in America, racism is solved. Everyone treats each other cordially. We had unity in this country. And that's the other thing is like, you'd hear people say things like, I don't see color because that's how it was. You actually accomplished the whole Martin Luther King thing of judging individual by their character, not the color of their skin. And Dem said, not on my watch, not on the SPLC's watch. We're going to judge people by the color of their skin.

Speaker 1:
[28:05] And Smug, you sort of eluded to it. But in the era of Donald Trump, from the moment on election night in 2016, when Van Jones declared this election was whitelash, from that moment, they then needed the supply of racism to be able to call Donald Trump a racist every single day. The only way they could perpetuate that for four years, and now another four years, is if they had that supply of racism out there in America, they could point to, that the liberal media that's now running interference for this organization reported on and got paid on.

Speaker 2:
[28:40] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[28:41] That's really well said.

Speaker 2:
[28:42] That's it. That's it right there.

Speaker 3:
[28:43] So our guy, Brandon Gill, who's just extraordinary on all issues, but I think he encapsulates a lot of this well in Clip 8.

Speaker 11:
[28:53] The FBI utilized a so-called hate map from the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, as it was going after traditional Catholics and labeling them domestic extremists. Do you think that that's an appropriate source?

Speaker 4:
[29:10] Absolutely not.

Speaker 11:
[29:12] Do you know some of the other groups that the SPLC labels as hate groups or extremist groups?

Speaker 4:
[29:18] No, I don't off the top of my head.

Speaker 11:
[29:20] I can name a few. They also named the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Family Research Council and Moms for Liberty as hate groups as well.

Speaker 4:
[29:29] Moms for Liberty, notoriously terrible. I'm just getting the kid out of here.

Speaker 2:
[29:35] And that's the thing is, they had that reputation that they've been leaning on of like, don't you know, SPLC, we're the civil rights group. And we have like members of Congress, like Jamie Raskin say that like, we're a trusted source for fighting white supremacy. Well, white supremacy wasn't the problem. The problem was the SPLC needed to raise some money. And so they created it and they funded it.

Speaker 3:
[29:57] Yeah, I mean, I think we've seen this for a number of years in that you do have a supply and demand problem when it comes to making a living, accusing every American of being inherently racist. Remember structural racism?

Speaker 2:
[30:10] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[30:10] Remember we went through that period in the George Floyd era? But you find out that these groups are doing basically what the ham handed version of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were doing in the late 80s by creating the racial animus in and of itself, convincing everybody that this was omnipresent. And in this case, allegedly funding the Ku Klux Klan in order to actually convince people of all of this. I mean, we all talk about this at Nozze, and we talk about it a lot on the show, but we grew up in an era where like, dude, I have four posters on the wall. It's Kirby Puck, I had Daryl Strawberry, I had Michael Jordan. They were all, I never thought once about whether my heroes were white or black. It's just the society that I grew up in. It wasn't until I became a professional adult deep into the Obama years that I was like, what the hell? Why is everyone just talking about race? And like now you find out that there is an institution within the Democratic Party and the far left, that their whole business model is to try to create racial division in this country in order to get paid to solve the thing that they start. That's a hell of a allegation. And this is a big deal. It's not just a one-off, like we wouldn't cover the top of our show if it was some random lefty group that got themselves in trouble. I mean, fuck, that happens every day. This is, you don't understand the significance that the Southern Poverty Law Center has had on American politics and in particular, the left's ability to label everything that they don't like as racist.

Speaker 2:
[31:47] And dangerous and harmful. Like you hear anything that they disagree with, they're like, well, this could be harmful. This is an issue of safety because they want the public writ large to think anyone who disagrees with us is evil. They need to be taken out. So, you know, I'm going to change up actually the question of the day for today. Oh, go ahead. I want to reiterate how important this is. And we've been hearing about like these NGOs and how Doge tried to crack down on it. For our listeners, you're out there, you see it across the country. Do you think this is going to have an impact? Do you think we're going to be able to begin dismantling the NGO problems? We see the fraud in Minnesota, we've seen the fraud in California. This SPLC is one of the center spokes of all of this, for their whole left-wing machine to work, being able to label their enemies and to have the media run with it. For 10 years, everyone in this country has been told that you're a racist. All of it was lies. Do you think anything will come of it? You think we're going to see people in handcuffs?

Speaker 3:
[32:46] That's a good question.

Speaker 2:
[32:47] Because I would like to see them.

Speaker 3:
[32:48] When you like and subscribe to the Ruthless Friday program, we read all of your comments. We're going to do that, in this case, on Fun Time Friday. Make sure you like and subscribe. Leave your comments on the discussion that we opened up with. And when we come back, your comments from last episode where we asked, what's your favorite Democrat humiliating themselves moment? There was a lot that we were reminded of that I had totally forgotten. All that coming up next. Okay, when you like and subscribe to the Ruthless Friday program and leave us a comment on our discussion, we'll read them right back to the very next episode. I think we've come up with some great ones here to our question of what's your favorite Democrat humiliating themselves moment? To start with your comments, we always start with a voice.

Speaker 4:
[33:31] First one comes from Fat Sonic. Fat Sonic submits, for me, it's gotta be the Howard Dean scream. Let's pull up Clip 9.

Speaker 3:
[33:40] Deep cut.

Speaker 5:
[33:41] And then we're going to Washington, DC to take back the White House!

Speaker 2:
[33:48] That ended him. That really ended it.

Speaker 3:
[33:50] That was it.

Speaker 1:
[33:51] What an era.

Speaker 3:
[33:52] It was all over after that. He was the front runner. He was the front runner for President of the United States in 2004.

Speaker 1:
[33:58] Kind of like Bernie before Bernie.

Speaker 3:
[34:00] He was. No question about it. Just, but he just had a special anger about him. And weird.

Speaker 4:
[34:07] Yeah!

Speaker 2:
[34:07] Now, everyone was dropping that too. I know. That we actually had late night comedy.

Speaker 4:
[34:13] Yeah. I know it.

Speaker 1:
[34:14] We should get that in the board, by the way.

Speaker 4:
[34:16] Good idea. Good idea. That's good.

Speaker 3:
[34:19] All right, comment too.

Speaker 1:
[34:21] This is from madlibs07. They write, my favorite moment of a Democrat humiliating themselves has to be Biden playing Despacito from his phone into the mic during the 2020 presidential campaign to appeal to Hispanics.

Speaker 4:
[34:39] Clip 11, five people clapping.

Speaker 3:
[34:46] I mean, literally, there's no clapping. I just have Ukrainian flag in the middle.

Speaker 2:
[34:54] Hang on here.

Speaker 9:
[34:56] All right.

Speaker 3:
[35:10] Dude, I forgot how awkward that was.

Speaker 1:
[35:12] That was so insane. I forgot about it too. It was the whole thing. Do you, I mean, this was the COVID election. Do you remember the honking car rallies? How pathetic the whole thing was.

Speaker 3:
[35:23] But dude, he had a staff member that convinced him to go out and appeal to Hispanics by playing a Justin Bieber song.

Speaker 1:
[35:32] Are you sure? Are you sure that wasn't just Biden himself freelancing?

Speaker 3:
[35:36] Because if you were an aide, I would like to think I would never work for anybody who would think that that was a good idea. But if you did, you'd be on a train track to stop that.

Speaker 1:
[35:47] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:48] Wouldn't you?

Speaker 2:
[35:48] Well, that's the thing is like we've discussed this of like, is there any normal Democrat? No, because they're all like way too online. They're on TikTok way too much. And they're like, yeah, voters will think this is cool. And you saw there were like five claps at the beginning when he's walking up. There were no claps when he started doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[36:07] And he's bobbing his head and everybody's like, Oh God, what is this?

Speaker 2:
[36:11] Is it going to die?

Speaker 3:
[36:12] Despacito. Unbelievable. All right, comment three smuggles.

Speaker 2:
[36:17] This is from Nautius Maximus. Question of the day, it's a pretty low bar, given how seriously Dems try to take themselves, how out of touch they are and what lengths they will go to to pander to voters. With that, the most humiliating moment has to go to the queen pandering Hillary Clinton and her hot sauce. She was dragged by everyone. Let's run that clip.

Speaker 6:
[36:38] What's something that you always carry with you?

Speaker 2:
[36:40] Hot sauce.

Speaker 3:
[36:43] Really?

Speaker 4:
[36:44] Are you getting information right now?

Speaker 10:
[36:48] Hot sauce in my bag, Swag?

Speaker 3:
[36:50] Hot sauce.

Speaker 2:
[36:51] Really?

Speaker 4:
[36:51] Yes. Now listen, I want you to know, people are gonna see this and say, okay, she's pandering to black people.

Speaker 2:
[36:55] Exactly.

Speaker 4:
[36:58] Okay. Is it working?

Speaker 8:
[37:01] Oh, jeez.

Speaker 2:
[37:03] Oh, that is incredible. I forgot she had the, is it working?

Speaker 8:
[37:08] Unreal.

Speaker 3:
[37:08] And by the way, she's sitting there at the Breakfast Club, which is where all the Democrats went and continue to go. And she says something that outrageous, which absolutely nobody, like, mayonnaise is too spicy for this gal. I mean, but-

Speaker 2:
[37:25] My theory actually is, I bet she actually does. I bet she actually has the hot sauce. Cause think about it, if you're Hillary Clinton, you've got a reputation, sometimes you leave a place and there's like, it's like a crime scene, there's bodies found. She can be like, no, it's not blood, it's hot sauce in my house.

Speaker 6:
[37:42] What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:
[37:43] Parody, parody, we're laughing.

Speaker 2:
[37:44] The bottle of hot sauce is in his left hand.

Speaker 4:
[37:47] The bottle is in his left hand.

Speaker 3:
[37:50] I thought you were going to say she'd use the hot sauce, like, mace on the hill.

Speaker 1:
[37:54] Yeah, yeah. In the eyes.

Speaker 3:
[37:55] A little pepper spray, action. But I mean, like, she's sitting there, nobody asks, like, all right, let's see your bag.

Speaker 2:
[38:02] No. She's actually got a gun.

Speaker 1:
[38:05] She's literally just sitting right there.

Speaker 2:
[38:06] I've seen this model.

Speaker 1:
[38:07] Or like, what type of hot sauce?

Speaker 3:
[38:09] Yeah, what kind of hot sauce are we talking about?

Speaker 1:
[38:11] No, we didn't get any. No color.

Speaker 3:
[38:13] Wow. Okay. Interesting. Thank you for that. Like, while you're pandering, she's like, yeah, is it working?

Speaker 12:
[38:18] That's the best part.

Speaker 3:
[38:20] She's like, I really have no regard whatsoever.

Speaker 2:
[38:24] Can we just get this over with and give me the White House? All right.

Speaker 3:
[38:28] So we got to touch on somewhat of a more uncomfortable topic, which is the fact that Republicans got absolutely jammed in the ass on Tuesday. I mean, the worst possible ass beating.

Speaker 1:
[38:42] So graphic.

Speaker 3:
[38:43] I mean, it just did, dude.

Speaker 1:
[38:45] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[38:45] And so Virginia had this election with a single question on it in every county, every precinct across the Commonwealth of Virginia, which was the question was basically a redistricting or you would take a state that's 45, 55 Republicans to Democrats. It's a six, five delegation. One of the most currently, one of the most fairly drawn congressional representations of anywhere in the country because Democrats have not had these kind of super majorities in Virginia where they can just sort of like take liberties the way that they do in Illinois or Massachusetts, where they just jerry manor the shit out of it. And they changed it to 10-1. 10, some six, five to 10-1. That was the question that was on the ballot. Now, Democrats have been running ads on this bad boy since the Super Bowl. At high level, to the tune of 95 million dollars, 95 million dollars was spent in their wager was that the entirety of the case for a Democratic majority in the House of Representatives was right there in Virginia. If you can win that one, you've got yourself a majority. So they went all in, pushed all the resources into it.

Speaker 2:
[39:56] For them, and they played it this way, is they considered the Tuesday night election, the midterms right there for the House. Yeah. And they played accordingly.

Speaker 3:
[40:06] They did, and it was a little bit, for those of us in Virginia, it was a little bit startling knowing the stakes of all of that and watching Indiana in particular refuse to take up a similar partisan effort there. You had the Texas and California redraw of the district maps that basically canceled each other out. Other states were involved, plus one, minus one. So it comes down to Virginia, and it wasn't at all evident that anybody in the Republican Party was focused on this until like maybe two weeks.

Speaker 1:
[40:37] I mean, we've talked about it maybe six times, different times on this show.

Speaker 2:
[40:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:42] I don't feel like I heard very much of it anywhere else.

Speaker 2:
[40:45] I had guests on, but to me, it was, it's, it's, it's pathetic. You had Virginia Republicans who saw, oh shit, we took our, we took our either ball and Abigail Spanberger won. And we see she's just like left wing is all hell. It makes Mumdani look like a centrist. We're like day one, she's like, police in Virginia no longer cooperate with ICE. You know, our elections are going to be crooked as shit. They're going to allow like mail in ballots. We'll accept them if you get it a month later. It's fine, that works. As far left as you can go, and Virginia Republicans are like, wow, maybe we should do nothing. And so they did nothing. And it's pathetic to see these numbers when, like I said, the Democrats saw this as the house midterm is Tuesday night. Play accordingly. And you did not see that kind of a concentration. Like, this is, we're talking about four house races in one night. I understand, Smug. The NRCC should have been out there in force. They should have gone ham. They should have treated it like the Democrats did of this is a midterm race. But also, I want to go back to a grievance of something that I've mentioned is Indiana Republicans are traitors, not cowards. They're traitors. It's pathetic what they've done. And for so long, and this is very endemic to Virginia Republicans of being like, now, now, come on now, you can't just exercise power when you have it. Are you crazy? You have to respect the norms, which Democrats never will. Please let that election be a lesson in your heads. Get through your thick skulls. Democrats will never, ever, ever restrain themselves. Never worry about, well, if we do something, then Democrats are going to do it. Because look, Indiana didn't do it, and Virginia still did it. So get that through your heads. Democrats will stop at nothing.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] Okay, so I got to disagree with you, Smug. I don't think it's fair to say they did nothing. Like I saw Governor Youngkin out there doing events, doing media, organizing grassroots activists to vote no. A lot of stuff, there were people that were working in Virginia on this, obviously, very hard. But the disparity between the way the Democrats were committed to this and the way the national Republicans were committed to this is just embarrassing.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] Barack Obama was rolling through Virginia.

Speaker 1:
[43:04] It's embarrassing. But I mean, you know, close doesn't work unless it's horseshoes and hand grenades, but it was very close. Two points. I mean, like, that's like the closest we've gotten since, like, Yonkin's election, right? Back in, what was that, 2021?

Speaker 3:
[43:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:20] Here's my complaint. Is I'm 100% with you on these Indiana Republicans. Like, hopefully this is a very important lesson that Republicans finally learn is that Democrats are never going to stop seeking power. And you have to do everything in your power to get power when you can. But if we're, if national Republicans are going to spend money trying to unseat these state senators and state reps who opposed the redistricting in Indiana, but not spend money to save four seats in Virginia, what the hell are we doing? What the hell are we doing, guys? And I saw also the other thing that really bothers me is we can't get one day from an election that is demoralizing for the Republicans before nobody takes accountability and just starts pointing fingers at everybody else. And I fucking hate that shit. Everybody get on the same page and start winning.

Speaker 3:
[44:12] Yeah, well, there's also just stupid shit, right? I mean, what we aim to do in the Ruthless Variety Program is give you like real information, you know, and I did see Glenn Yonkin out doing stuff. And I think people in Virginia were sufficiently motivated to do it, but you didn't have the national cover. I'd love an explanation for that because there was a Democratic full weight of the National Party behind that. And I've seen this very week, nothing but these triumphant fundraising numbers from every group, committee, Super PAC, everything on the Republican side, six to one fundraising against Democrats, all that. Like everybody's running victory laps. Meanwhile, they shove this thing up your ass with a hot fire poker. Like, okay, somebody explain to me why four seats in one election isn't worth pursuing at like a Mach 10 level. Because it seems like it was. Maybe there's a reasonable explanation for it. I just haven't heard one.

Speaker 4:
[45:10] Well, you know, you guys make some very, very good points. And in the department of silver linings, very, very small as it may be.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] Bro, I don't want to hear a silver lining. I want us to move on this. It's time to jail Dems. We got to go play hardball.

Speaker 4:
[45:26] That's the point of the silver lining. And that's in rural parts of the state, the turnout was a little bit better than 2024 for Republicans. So that means-

Speaker 3:
[45:37] Better than the presidential.

Speaker 4:
[45:39] That means-

Speaker 3:
[45:39] Interesting.

Speaker 4:
[45:40] That rural Republicans are motivated to get out and cast their ballot under the right circumstances when Trump's name is not at the top of it.

Speaker 2:
[45:49] And now they're all going to get Dem congressmen for it.

Speaker 4:
[45:52] Well, you know, like that's, I mean, that raises a question. It raises a question about whether it was winnable in the first place.

Speaker 1:
[45:58] Can I say something that's kind of funny? I'll add a little levity to this segment. That has been pretty graphic, by the way, Holmes. How dare you?

Speaker 3:
[46:05] Yeah, I feel like it's all warranted.

Speaker 1:
[46:07] It is.

Speaker 3:
[46:08] I feel like it's warranted.

Speaker 1:
[46:09] I appreciate it.

Speaker 2:
[46:10] It is warranted, man.

Speaker 1:
[46:11] What I thought was kind of funny and ironic in all of this is like, you know, when Democrats accuse Republicans of gerrymandering, they're always like, this will disenfranchise black and brown voters. Minorities who are not going to get representation.

Speaker 3:
[46:28] Just look at this release from the SPLC.

Speaker 1:
[46:30] Exactly, right?

Speaker 3:
[46:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:31] And then you look at like actual turnout in this referendum. And yes, the gerrymander plan of the Democrats did better with black voters, Asian voters and Hispanic voters than Kamala Harris did.

Speaker 3:
[46:47] Oh, really?

Speaker 1:
[46:49] So the people that they hold up as the victims of gerrymander were like, give me the gerrymander.

Speaker 3:
[46:56] Give me that thing.

Speaker 2:
[46:57] I want it.

Speaker 4:
[46:58] I want it. I want that.

Speaker 2:
[47:00] And I think like looking forward, I think Florida has essentially become like the last stop, the last chance.

Speaker 3:
[47:08] To just even the map.

Speaker 2:
[47:10] Let's get everyone to make sure that the ducks are in the row. Like, let's not be like, okay, let's just open it up again and let's see what happens. We can't do this kind of half-assed roll the dice. Let's see where shit lands kind of thing anymore. If you're going to do something, do it to win it and play to win.

Speaker 3:
[47:27] Dude, that's exactly right. But I mean, it raises a larger question, which is, the fuck are we doing in the first place? Like, you go to war with a bunch of Democrats in a gerrymander contest? They're literally the authors of the gerrymander.

Speaker 2:
[47:45] This is like Obama and Eric Holder's full-time job now. Like, the Netflix is the side money. The real money is on this shit.

Speaker 3:
[47:51] This is the only reason that the Democrat Party exists. They have done this since the beginning of time. And when they couldn't do it, they got the Supreme Court to intervene to make sure that they could do it in Southern states. They are literally the best of the best. The absolute gold medal winners at a gerrymander contest. It's like challenging a serial killer to a murder contest. Like, you are going to lose that. But we started this whole thing with Texas, and then it immediately was canceled out by California. And at that point, I was like, okay, right? Maybe this wasn't a great idea. But everybody was like, all right, if Republicans just gerrymandered to the max here, you can get another six to seven seats out of it, hypothetically, without ever just sort of thinking about whether or not Democrats were going to try to do the same fucking thing. Like, never occurred to anybody that the people literally authored the fucking gerrymander were going to try to do the same thing.

Speaker 2:
[48:50] And I don't think it's a great argument to try to be like, no, no, no, you don't understand. It was like New York did it first, and it doesn't matter who did it.

Speaker 3:
[48:55] No, but this is what happens when you don't think that fucking shit through. This is what happens.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] It does not matter who started what. What matters is, are you willing to go out there and win it? And if I actually can give a real silver lining to this, if you want to finally-

Speaker 4:
[49:10] I think Trump voters-

Speaker 2:
[49:10] Not your fake silver, I want a real silver- Buddy, Trump voters matter.

Speaker 4:
[49:14] I'm sorry, you're gonna run over Trump voters and say they're insignificant? You can say that if you want, I just disagree.

Speaker 2:
[49:20] Here's the real silver lining, and what folks should focus on is, what we need to do to end all the gerrymandering shit is get illegals kicked out of the census, because that's how we actually do it. You're actually right. We focus, we get that done, and it's a wrap, it's a wrap.

Speaker 4:
[49:36] Getting illegals kicked out of the 2030 census would have done gangbusters for last night's election. I mean, it would have made a big, big difference if we get them out in 2030, it would have made the difference in Virginia in 2026.

Speaker 2:
[49:47] I wanna say this again and again, the fact that illegals are allowed in the census is why blue states have these members of Congress begin with and why they created these sanctuary cities because they're like, well, if our city is a sanctuary for illegals and we fill this place with two million illegals, that gives us four more congressional seats. That's how they've been playing.

Speaker 4:
[50:05] We gotta win in 28. Yeah. If Democrats win the White House in 28, illegals will have two votes for every citizen's vote.

Speaker 3:
[50:13] No, I mean, look, that's right. I've said from the beginning, I can't believe that we've ever even had an argument about the census and whether it counts legal and illegal. I mean, it's literally in the Constitution. Like, it's to count American taxpayers and they get apportionment and representation because of their citizenship. And that is the end of the story. There is no other interpretation of all that. It ought to go right to the end of the mat to try to figure that out. My only point on the redistricting thing is, if you are going to pick a fight, and listen, I've been in a lot of them in 20 years, if you're gonna pick a fight, you can't just pick what the first punch looks like. You can't. You just have to think through and line up the counterpunch, the counterpunch, the counterpunch, and what this ultimately ends in, what you think a reasonable end goal would be. It's not as if the most corrupt party in the history of American democracy is going to lean back and say, ah, I guess we're fucked this year. They're not gonna do that. And as evidence, they took one of the most purple states in the Union from six, five to 10, one. And they're just lookin at it like, what else you got? What else you got, you bitch? I mean, that is literally what's happening right now. They're all runnin circles. Abigail Spanberger couldn't be happier. You got Barack Obama sending out press releases. Hakeem Jeffries is literally taunting the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, like, what else you got, bitch? I mean, that's literally what happened this week.

Speaker 2:
[51:38] Alex Soros was doing a victory lap on Twitter. Yeah, dad gave me money, we made this shit happen.

Speaker 3:
[51:42] Exactly. So if you're gonna get involved in that, you need to think about, one, Indiana, if you're gonna go beyond the Texas, California cancel out, you better make sure you can fucking haul that thing in before you make a public case out of it. You better make sure that Missouri gets more than a seat. You better make sure you don't lose one in Utah, which they did. You better make sure that all of these other states that are trying to kind of work through the mid district bizarreness, have something more than what it is that you've produced. Now you're counting on Ron DeSantis, which is a, it's a difficult law down there, from what I understand, to try to figure it's not the same.

Speaker 4:
[52:19] As apparently a 60% threshold.

Speaker 3:
[52:22] Yeah, it's not the same as what you just saw in Virginia in order to get this done, but that's just to even the score?

Speaker 11:
[52:27] Not a fight you picked.

Speaker 3:
[52:30] And like, look, I know retrospect, I hated it when I was an operative and you're making these kind of high profile calls and everybody does the Monday morning quarterback routine and whether you were smart or not. So I look, I don't question whether or not the intentions were correct. I'm certain that they were. And I like being aggressive versus passive when it comes to take the power when you can, because they're going to do the same thing. But you can't put the country through a $300 million experiment and end up in the minus column. You just can't fucking do it. Midterms are hard enough. They are hard enough without putting yourself in this kind of position. And that's where everybody finds themselves today. So anyway, great news out of Virginia. It's Thursday and when it's Thursday means we play King of the Hill, fellas.

Speaker 1:
[53:25] Yeah, that's right. You're defending champion.

Speaker 3:
[53:27] Yeah, I got boot.

Speaker 1:
[53:28] You got maximum boot and I'm challenger today and I'm bringing Adam Kinzinger.

Speaker 2:
[53:34] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[53:35] Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 4:
[53:36] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] Of all days too. Yeah. Like his story ties into gerrymandering so well. It does.

Speaker 3:
[53:42] I'm actually nervous about this. I didn't know you were bringing that.

Speaker 1:
[53:45] A little bit of foreshadowing there from Comfortably Smug, who will be our bailiff today.

Speaker 2:
[53:49] Bailiff, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:50] And Judge Ashbrook. Let's go ringside.

Speaker 4:
[54:21] Maximum boost.

Speaker 2:
[54:25] There's such a goofball hat, dude. People have told him, why does he still do it?

Speaker 1:
[54:33] Defending champion must go first.

Speaker 3:
[54:35] All right, so he's still deeply involved in war, as he always has been, he has a very different take. This one, I just, I love it, I hope you love it, too. He is tweeting out a link from the Center for Strategic.

Speaker 2:
[54:51] What's the number on this?

Speaker 3:
[54:52] Exhibit two. So it's a CSIS link.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:
[54:58] And it's talking about missile inventory, right? CSIS says the US has used as many as 1,400 Patriot missiles against Iran, while Ukraine received roughly 600 of them since the start of the Russian invasion. Talk about misplaced priorities.

Speaker 2:
[55:17] It's an insane take.

Speaker 3:
[55:18] Dude, think about this. We have literally thousands of troops in theater. I mean, they're firing missiles at Americans.

Speaker 2:
[55:27] He's like, we got to send the ammo to Ukraine now.

Speaker 4:
[55:30] Dude, that-

Speaker 3:
[55:30] I mean, it is, dude.

Speaker 4:
[55:33] It's going to be hard to beat.

Speaker 3:
[55:34] His commitment to Ukraine has now gone beyond the American soldier, which I think is just something.

Speaker 1:
[55:47] Well, I see Ukraine and I raise you Iran itself. Adam Kinzinger, exhibit number 13, please. Kinzinger writes, Trump announces an indefinite ceasefire because Iran called his bluff. Everyone knows Trump is all talk and a scared little boy. The consequences of his failure will be with us for ages, even after he's mercifully out of office. And Magga will say he's tough because he tweets.

Speaker 4:
[56:21] Now, I do think that that is a pretty ridiculous take. Can we put that back up? Because I wanted to point one more thing out that caught my attention. He retains the Slava Ukraine in his name. However, this just seems a little bit typical for a guy like Kinzinger. And I know that he has a lot of other great stuff. And I am not going to rule for Kinzinger here because of Max Boot saying that the Ukrainian army matters more than the American. So Max Boot wins round one.

Speaker 3:
[56:59] Happy to pocket it. Wise decision making as always.

Speaker 1:
[57:04] Ashbrook court. We know.

Speaker 3:
[57:07] I find it fancy.

Speaker 2:
[57:08] More crooked than SPLC. All right.

Speaker 1:
[57:13] Fine. I think you guys all know what I'm going to play. So just go ahead and give up Holmes. Adam Kinzinger, exhibit number nine, please. This is in the aftermath of the gerrymander vote in Virginia. He goes, hey guys, I was gerrymandered twice. It was done when all states redistrict. I don't like it. But when Trump started pushing states to do it mid-cycle because he's afraid he will lose, the only way to fight back is to make it backfire. Then maybe we can fix the system. He's literally out of Congress because Democrats gerrymandered him out of Congress. He has now become a Democrat to defend gerrymandering.

Speaker 4:
[57:55] Counsel, it looked to me like he was quote tweeting somebody. Is that correct?

Speaker 1:
[58:00] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[58:01] What's the nature of that?

Speaker 1:
[58:04] It's a Stephen Miller, not White House Stephen Miller.

Speaker 2:
[58:06] Red Steves was clowning on him.

Speaker 1:
[58:08] Yeah, he was clowning on Kinzinger for basically the point here, that he's being a huge hypocrite, he was gerrymandered out of Congress.

Speaker 2:
[58:15] He's literally cuck.

Speaker 4:
[58:16] So then, Kinzinger?

Speaker 1:
[58:17] Literally cuck. But it's like multiple-

Speaker 3:
[58:19] Steves said, the rare triple cuck.

Speaker 4:
[58:24] It doesn't get that name from nowhere.

Speaker 1:
[58:27] I call it, I call it cuckception, you know?

Speaker 3:
[58:31] It's a good tweet. Let's toss up exhibit seven, please. This is Boat. And he says, Trump might be more cautious now that he has seen in Iran, what can go wrong with a little excursion, but he might also be eager for a diversion from the Middle East mess. Cuba is much weaker than Iran and therefore, an inviting target for a bully like Trump. What I find so fascinating about this is that here's a guy who's called for war with Iran for 25 years. And as soon as Trump does it, now I would argue one of the most successful military excursions, if that's what he wants to call it, that we've had in my lifetime is currently happening in Iran, where you've got basically full control over the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. And he's like, now that you've seen what's gone wrong, what exactly has gone wrong here? What exactly has gone wrong here? And so he's suggesting that Cuba is next on the list.

Speaker 4:
[59:37] Yeah, that's what stood out to me, because he always does that thing where he has to let you know that he's paying attention. He's trying to call the next thing to look smart. But it just in no way stands up to what Kinzinger making himself the story about Virginia. And I was gerrymandered and whining because Red Steez gets in his kitchen. Kinzinger wins round two.

Speaker 3:
[59:58] I'll accept that. And once again, win or lose, I find this judge to be credible.

Speaker 4:
[60:03] No, I wonder why.

Speaker 3:
[60:05] Full of integrity.

Speaker 4:
[60:06] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[60:08] At this time, I'd like to call exhibit four, where Max Boot is re-tweeting a tweet from the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, where he announced that they're not going to mandate the flu vaccine. I didn't know that that, I forgot that that was a thing that we actually mandated that to, like in addition to the COVID thing, like we did that. So anyway, he now makes that announcement this week and Max Boot says, is he also going to make body armor optional?

Speaker 2:
[60:37] Amazing.

Speaker 4:
[60:37] Oh, man.

Speaker 2:
[60:38] Incredible. I thought, same thing, right, Max? Same, same. Amazing tape.

Speaker 1:
[60:45] Same, same.

Speaker 2:
[60:48] The Washington Post runs this kind of shit. I can't believe they pay this guy. It's incredible.

Speaker 1:
[60:55] I'm gonna put the judge in a tough spot here. Exhibit number eight.

Speaker 2:
[61:04] Oh boy.

Speaker 1:
[61:04] In this tweet, Kinzinger is quote-tweeting.

Speaker 3:
[61:07] He's going after Whitlock?

Speaker 1:
[61:08] Great friend of the Ruthless Variety Program, Matt Whitlock.

Speaker 2:
[61:12] Dude, shut up, Whitlock, for getting under Kinzinger's scale. It's hilarious.

Speaker 1:
[61:15] Great dude. Again, Whitlock's tweet here is about the gerrymandering and the hypocrisy of Kinzinger. Okay. Kinzinger quote-tweets it, Your party became a cult, and you dropped to your knees in obedience. And I will work overtime to defeat the cult. And I love how you guys are panicking that the thing you started is going to backfire. The rare triple cuck. The rare triple cuck. I mean.

Speaker 3:
[61:44] Whitlock. Like one of the nicest people in all of politics.

Speaker 2:
[61:48] It's hilarious how he got it under his skin. I got to text him and be like, it's an outstanding work.

Speaker 1:
[61:52] Well, don't only text him if Ashbrook sides with Hoyas.

Speaker 3:
[61:56] No, I will not have supplemental.

Speaker 1:
[61:59] Here we go. Ashbrook didn't stand up for you.

Speaker 2:
[62:00] Here comes the crooked court.

Speaker 3:
[62:02] I would, yeah, that's crooked court stuff right there. I don't care for it. You can tweet whoever you'd like, Bailiff.

Speaker 8:
[62:11] I love this game.

Speaker 2:
[62:13] It all hinges on Ashbrook. Was he awake?

Speaker 3:
[62:15] I trust him.

Speaker 1:
[62:16] Was he awake?

Speaker 2:
[62:18] What do you think, Grandpa?

Speaker 4:
[62:22] Listen, Max Boot is similar to other stuff that he said Adam Kinzinger went through.

Speaker 10:
[62:27] Wow.

Speaker 4:
[62:29] Let's go.

Speaker 7:
[62:30] I take it all back.

Speaker 4:
[62:31] Matt Whitlock.

Speaker 1:
[62:32] What a fair court.

Speaker 4:
[62:33] Tweet something and all of a sudden he's like, you dropped down to your knees on Trump and now we're going to get you in the end. Like, get the hell out of here, dude. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[62:43] Flu vaccine and body armor?

Speaker 4:
[62:45] Ridiculous.

Speaker 1:
[62:45] It was good.

Speaker 4:
[62:47] Also ridiculous.

Speaker 1:
[62:49] Fair court.

Speaker 2:
[62:51] The rare fair judgment from Judge Huffman.

Speaker 3:
[62:54] I feel like, you know, when every once in a while you get worried about Roberts because like the left is attacking the court too much.

Speaker 4:
[63:01] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[63:01] And you feel like, you know, there might be a part of it where he feels the pressure, where he has to like give the other side a win.

Speaker 1:
[63:07] Just give them something.

Speaker 3:
[63:09] I feel like maybe some of that leaked in here.

Speaker 4:
[63:11] Just balls and strikes.

Speaker 1:
[63:12] Well, doesn't matter because I'm the winner.

Speaker 9:
[63:15] A lot of balls. I don't know about the strikes.

Speaker 1:
[63:20] Big ones. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[63:23] We got a big interview. Fellas, you talked to Mike Watley, who is our great hope in North Carolina. If the Senate Republicans are going to hold the Senate, they're going to need Mike Watley in North Carolina to win and retain that Senate seat. Let's go to that interview.

Speaker 1:
[63:42] Well, you've heard him here before and he decided to come back because this race is so important. The former RNC Chairman and current United States Senate candidate from the great state of North Carolina, Michael Watley.

Speaker 12:
[63:54] It's great to be back with you guys.

Speaker 1:
[63:56] Yeah, you know, it's important because we got Smug to do this interview.

Speaker 12:
[64:01] It's all about North Carolina.

Speaker 2:
[64:02] Exactly, you gotta show for the home state. And this is, a lot of people are saying, the most important race of the cycle, possibly the one where Democrats are going to spend the most money because they know how important this race is. How are things looking out there so far?

Speaker 12:
[64:16] Things are looking great. You know, you're absolutely right. This is going to be the top of the ticket nationwide. Democrats are going to be putting hundreds of millions of dollars in and we know it, right? But it is great on the ground, I gotta say. You know, we've been in for several months now. We've been moving around the state and the response has been very, very good. The fact is people don't want to elevate a guy like Roy Cooper. They don't want somebody who's gonna raise their taxes. They don't want somebody who's soft on crime. They don't want somebody who's gonna denigrate our military and our veterans. So yeah, this issue set in this race really does very well for us and I love the response we're getting around the state.

Speaker 2:
[64:57] I mean, real quick, just it feels like in North Carolina where I live, folks are starting to get the message when it comes to Roy Cooper, especially on the soft on crime. You know, how that tragedy that happened with Irina Zaruzka and that's just part of Roy Cooper's legacy. The last time he was in office is he let habitual criminals out who went on and committed more crimes. They kill people, they hurt North Carolinians and it's starting to sink in with people of this is who Roy Cooper is. Because for so long, he's been able to be slippery and get away with dodging his record. It's really coming back.

Speaker 12:
[65:32] Yeah, look, you think about it. What is the number one priority for any government? State government, local government, federal government is protecting its citizens. And this guy is an abject failure. Back in 2020, when Antifa and BLM are burning down our cities, he's out there marching with them. And then he released 3,500 hardened criminals out of North Carolina prisons because he didn't want them to get COVID. He sealed the list. He said, oh, trust me, none of these are violent felons. Wrong. The guy lied through his teeth. The fact is hundreds of them had committed sexual assaults and rapes. Hundreds of them violent assaults. He had 51 who had been convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison that he let back out there. So yeah. And then he also vetoed legislation to force sheriffs to honorize detainers and get criminal illegal aliens out. I mean, this guy truly has fought harder for criminals throughout the course of his career than he ever did for the citizens of the state.

Speaker 1:
[66:31] So just to put a finer point on it, I know the Republicans in North Carolina are leading the effort on this commission to sort of investigate a lot of these early releases during the COVID era when Roy Cooper was governor. What more can you tell us about that?

Speaker 12:
[66:44] Well, I think it's really important that you've got the House and the Senate, both in the legislature, are going to be conducting hearings into this. Because Roy Cooper did, as soon as he signed off on this settlement to let these guys out of jail, sealed the list, hit the list, right? Put it under court order and said, hey, trust me, none of these are violent felons. And you think about the number of them that have gone on to commit truly atrocious acts. Decarlos Brown Jr. is probably the most famous guy on the list, right? So he gets released, gets re-arrested and re-released 13 more times, 14 total, before last summer he gets on a light rail car in Charlotte and murders Irena Zyrotska, beautiful young Ukrainian refugee in cold blood, right? How many other instances like that are there? And how did that guy get on that list? Who put him on the list, right? You know, it was clearly a settlement and a lawsuit with the ACLU and NAACP. Did Cooper pick the people? Did they pick the people? How did that happen? And I think that he owes North Carolina a lot of answers.

Speaker 4:
[67:48] Yeah, he really does. And I mean, that case is the most famous one. But as you said, it's not the only one. There was a Marine who was murdered, right?

Speaker 12:
[67:58] Yeah, just on Easter, right? You know, 21 year old Marine down in Wilmington, North Carolina got killed. And the guy who killed him had been arrested 60 times and released 60 times on Roy Cooper's policies.

Speaker 1:
[68:12] Yeah, I mean, who's doing the vetting on this? You got these criminals with a rap sheet as long as a CVS receipt, you know? I mean, is it the ACLU is being driven out by liberal national interests? And then the governor is just signing off on it? Or is it, I mean, that's the thing that's wild to me is like, why would anybody, any reasonable person, a guy who says he's a moderate Democrat, right? Represents a purple state, be doing the bidding of these far left groups that want to open our prisons with violent criminals?

Speaker 12:
[68:41] Yeah, and it's not just on this issue. I mean, we can take any other issue when we talk about taxes, or we talk about transgender issues, we talk about him vetoing the Parents Bill of Rights. I mean, we've got, you know, a laundry list, like you said, as long as your arm to talk about the places where he is clearly not a moderate. You know, this guy was was auditioning for a slot in the Biden administration or something, you know, because he very clearly was following the far left of the far left of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1:
[69:09] Yeah, I mean, that is the double edged sword of being a two term governor is everybody knows your name, but you got a long record now.

Speaker 12:
[69:17] Right.

Speaker 1:
[69:17] And so part of your job is obviously exposing that record. What is it you're doing to help build up your profile across the state as you're traveling and all that sort of stuff? Give us a little insight on what you're doing.

Speaker 12:
[69:29] Yeah, look, I mean, the biggest thing that we want to do is make sure that we just introduce me. Right. You know, because most people know that I was the RNC chair. Some people know that I was the Republican Party chair. Maybe a few people know I was Elizabeth Dole's chief of staff. But people don't know, you know, I grew up in Blowing Rock, tiny little town up in the mountains on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Five hundred and thirty four people. Right. We had one stoplight in the Hardys today. They got three stoplights and an outback. So I guess that's gross. You know, and, you know, worked, right? I got my first full-time job at 14. I paid, you know, worked all the way through high school. I paid my way through college, paid my way through graduate school, paid my way through law school. You know, I graduated from Notre Dame on a Sunday. Monday morning, I drove south, got to Tennessee, turned left, went back to North Carolina. Three weeks later, I met, you know, Susie on a blind date. We've been together 28 years since. Well, I was lucky. Absolutely, I worked out a lot. You know, so I've really lived the North Carolina version of the American dream, you know, to get an education, get a job, get married, buy a house, have kids, raise them in a safe environment. That's the American dream. I got to live that in North Carolina. I want every other family, every other kid, every other grand kid to be able to have that same opportunity. So that's the story that we're talking about when we're going around the state. You know, we've got 100 counties in North Carolina. We've already been to 81 of them in this campaign. When I was the state party chair, I went to all 100 every year. And it just really, truly matters that you have the boots on the ground. Roy Cooper's running from the basement. It's Joe Biden 2.0 kind of campaign where they're hiding him. And so we're going to go out and be everywhere and talk to everybody about the issues that they care about.

Speaker 1:
[71:07] It's very typical of a Chuck Schumer recruit, by the way.

Speaker 4:
[71:10] It sure is. And you know, it's such a big state. And you mentioned you've been to 81 of the 100 counties for this campaign and you're from the mountains. But it is such a big state. And I know that you mentioned the crime issue and everything else, but I'm wondering, what are you hearing most from the people you're talking to when you're out there on the trail?

Speaker 12:
[71:29] Yeah, you know, it's economy, economy, economy, right? And crime obviously is going to continue to be a big factor, you know, but it is about jobs, right? And it's about not just more jobs, it's about better jobs, right? People need to take home more money. We need lower taxes, so they're going to keep their money, you know, and what are the jobs, you know, and the issue sets that really matter there? You know, it's tax policy, it's regulatory policy, it's trade policy, you know, to help our small businesses, to help our manufacturers and our farmers. You know, these are the things that really are going to matter when we talk about it. Affordability is a very real issue, right? And that cuts on both sides. If somebody takes home more money, somebody gets to keep more of their money, then things are more affordable, right? But we need to move forward on those policies. And that is something that we hear, no matter who we talk to, it's always going to be kitchen table issues. You know, you think, go back to, you know, 24, you know, Trump really ran on, you know, making sure that we're rebuilding our economy. You know, restore the border and keep our kids and our community safe. Make sure America is the strongest country in the world. And, you know, honor our veterans and make sure that our men and women in uniform have what they need. Those are the issue sets that he carried that state in three times. Those are the issue sets we're going to carry in 26.

Speaker 4:
[72:49] Yeah, there's such a great culture in the state. You know, that's probably why Smug and his lovely wife and oncoming son settled there, right? I mean, it's just a beautiful place. Your mom is there. And that's where you want your family to be. And the thing that, if I could just finish, the thing that really stands out to me about what North Carolina has done in coming back from that terrible hurricane and the way that everybody has come together to rebuild communities in the western part of the state. You see Amish people out there rebuilding homes. You've got Samaritans purse. You've got locals who have really come together as a stopgap to what Roy Cooper refused to do, which is help in the weeks after that.

Speaker 12:
[73:30] Yeah, it was stunning. You know, and the fact that he showed up for one press conference and then he left and he was never back up there. You know, when President Trump got sworn in, you know, he and I talked that night and he said, hey, let's go back to North Carolina. First trip, right? So literally four days later, we were on Air Force One going back to North Carolina. And, you know, he had a conversation with Chuck Edwards and Virginia Fox and said, what am I going to see? And he said, well, you're going to see the same thing you saw when you were down here on the campaign in October. That's unacceptable. You know, FEMA, complete failure. Roy Cooper and his administration were a complete failure, you know. And I think it says a lot that his protege, his successor, Josh Stein, literally the first thing he did when he was sworn in was to abolish Cooper's hurricane recovery program and set up a brand new one.

Speaker 4:
[74:19] That guy's a Democrat.

Speaker 12:
[74:20] That's right. That's absolutely right. You know, when President Trump asked me, you know, help get federal resources down here, you know, to date, $9 billion that the federal government has put into Western North Carolina since Trump got back into office and we've seen 99% of the roads have been rebuilt, 99% of the bridges have been rebuilt. We've seen the wastewater systems, the drinking water systems, the Blue Ridge Parkway, Chimney Rock and Lake Lure just reopened last year. You know, this was a lake that literally you could have walked across with all of the debris that was there after the storm and for it to be reopened is really nothing short of a miracle. So, you know, you're right that the people of Western North Carolina are amazingly strong and those communities are very, very resilient. And I'm just proud that we've been able to play a part in helping to get the resources back there to get them back on their feet.

Speaker 1:
[75:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:12] One of the things that I think is also important to highlight with your record is when you were the chairman of the North Carolina Republican Party, that's when we engineered this like super majority at the state level in the House, in the Senate. And that has been, that's had such a success across North Carolina. Part of what a lot of North Carolinians are worried about is there's been an influx of folks. Word got out that North Carolina is tremendous.

Speaker 1:
[75:38] Just the research triangle. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:40] Everyone who grew up in North Carolina knows what a great state it is. But then the word got out to like New Yorkers and these other folks. And so there's a worry that like, okay, let's not ruin a good thing. That's what I'm most worried about with this race. Because Roy Cooper is a left-wing wacko. He's tried tricking people into believing he's a centrist. Look at his record. He's soft on crime. He'll do anything that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats want. He'll run that state into the ground. He doesn't care.

Speaker 12:
[76:09] Yeah. You know, you think about it, North Carolina, we're true purple, right? So we're 30 percent Republican, we're 30 percent Democrat, 38.5 percent unaffiliated, which is our version of independence, 1.5 percent other. So I mean, we're truly there. And the way that always manifests itself is Democrats win, governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, secretary of state, Republicans win in the legislature. They win the House seats, the Senate seats, and the presidential seats. And all of the things that we've seen have come since we flipped the state house and the state Senate back after the 2010 election cycle. So all of the tax cuts that Roy Cooper vetoed, by the way, six of them, came under Republican control. The infrastructure investments, teacher pay raises, police pay raises, those are all things that Cooper vetoed and is now trying to take credit for. And when we look at that state, the population, we picked up one seat in Congress with the apportionment in 2010. We picked up a seat in 2020. We'll certainly get another one in 2030. There are a lot of people coming. But we need, as Republicans, to talk to them. The way that we win is by actually talking to the voters, understanding the issues they care about and putting solutions on the table.

Speaker 1:
[77:25] And just to go back to the flooding and everything in Western North Carolina, I remember the big controversy at the time, again, under Roy Cooper's watch, was the Biden administration basically stealing all of this FEMA money to house illegal immigrants. Right? And so, it's just such a huge contrast between what I hear from you and how much you care about the people of the state and how obviously, you did a lot with President Trump to bring those resources to people who desperately needed it. But when that was Roy Cooper's job, he outsourced that to National Democrats.

Speaker 12:
[78:00] Well, on Roy Cooper, the night that the hurricane landed, September 27th, was up in New York at a climate change conference, rubbing elbow with all the elites. He wasn't even in the state. People forget FEMA actually had a memo that told their staff, don't go to houses that have Trump signs in the yard to offer them help. I remember that. President pointed me to the FEMA Review Council. Believe me, if there's any agency that needs to be reviewed, that's the one. We're in the process of finalizing the recommendations that we're going to be giving to Secretary Mullen and President Trump in terms of what changes need to be made to that. But since President Trump got in, it has been a whole of government response. USDA, we've seen HUD, we've seen the Small Business Administration, the Department of Transportation gave the largest block grant to North Carolina in the agency's history.

Speaker 1:
[78:53] What is the problem there that people are still dealing with the most? Is it the transportation? Is it just so rural there in the mountains that they're having to rebuild still?

Speaker 12:
[79:03] Yeah, there's a lot of rebuilding. Part of that is going to be insurance issues that they're dealing with in private insurance issues. Part of it is the fact that FEMA did not want to give money out for, they call it the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program, which now they're starting to finally move, that they're doing with it. But it really is remarkable when you go back into the area and you see the progress that's been made. I mean, certainly not ready to hang up a mission accomplished banner by any stretch of the imagination, but the improvement over the course of the last year has been very real.

Speaker 1:
[79:37] Yeah, it's incredible. Well, it's obviously going to be a very expensive race, as you've alluded to, and I saw people are already making big investments and reservations for TV ads in the fall and all that sort of stuff. I imagine Roy Cooper's campaign's going to be well capitalized.

Speaker 12:
[79:55] No question about it. I mean, we think overall, probably $600 to $800 million will be spent in North Carolina. Most expensive Senate race in the history of the country. And we know we got to raise a ton of money because Cooper's going to raise two tons of money. And he'll have the ActBlue machine has already been cranked up to an absurd level. And that's fine. But what we know from 24 and other elections, good policy is good politics. Kamala Harris outspent us on the Trump campaign by a billion dollars. And we won all seven battleground states because we were working very hard to make sure that we were common sense and Kamala was crazy. And it helped that Kamala helped us by being crazy.

Speaker 1:
[80:40] Yeah, that always helps.

Speaker 12:
[80:42] That's really kind of what it's going to come down to in North Carolina. Our voters do not like crazy. They don't like crazy left. They don't like crazy right. They want somebody who's going to put solutions on the table and fight for them.

Speaker 1:
[80:52] Well, yeah. And you know how to do it. Again, those seven battlegrounds. This guy was a part of it.

Speaker 2:
[80:58] That's why President Trump picked him. For folks in North Carolina, even all across this country, if they want to get involved, where do they go?

Speaker 12:
[81:05] Yeah. So michaelwatley.com, a nice, easy website for you. You can follow me on X at WatleyNC. And we've got a really good team that's coming together. A lot of support from the president's team. And we really, truly have the best boots on the ground as we need it. But the issue sets are the ones that are going to matter. And we certainly want people to go to michaelwatley.com and support the campaign because we're going to need the resources to get our message out.

Speaker 1:
[81:36] We will not have a Senate majority without this one, folks. So if you can, go ahead, go to michaelwatley.com, chip in, get involved. Get involved. Michael Watley, thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 12:
[81:47] It's great to be with you guys. Thanks again.

Speaker 1:
[81:49] Thanks so much.

Speaker 3:
[81:53] I'm not 18 anymore. I'm working, raising two kids, and I have little free time. That's why I chose University of Phoenix. I take one class at a time, and log in on my schedule.

Speaker 11:
[82:03] University of Phoenix, built for real life.

Speaker 6:
[82:06] Get started at phoenix.edu.

Speaker 4:
[82:08] I'm glad we were able to get him back in. I mean, it's obviously a very tight race, and it sounds like he is all over that state. He said he's been to 81 of the 100 counties so far, just in this campaign. And I mean, it seems like he's getting a good reception. You can hear him tell it.

Speaker 2:
[82:24] That's the thing is his focus on the message of crime and how his opponent, Cooper, was just like, let any criminal in jail, they go out and they commit murders. We've mentioned what had happened in that tragedy with the ruin of Zaruzka. He is getting the message out. It is getting into voters' heads. They're realizing Ray Cooper, who's been shielded for so long for being a left-wing lunatic because we had a super majority that Watley helped engineer, giving him cover. He can be like, look how successful that is as governor. Dude, they overrode all his vetoes, but he's responsible for the crime and that's what's going to get pinned on him. We need Watley to win that one.

Speaker 3:
[83:01] Yeah, well said. Okay, so don't forget, like and subscribe. Check out some merch items while you're there. We had a great generational war that's still going on, where we still have some things up that we can weigh in one way or another and get a great T-shirt in the process.

Speaker 4:
[83:17] Do your part, thank a boomer.

Speaker 3:
[83:19] That's right. And there's just a whole bunch of really great stuff out there. So like, subscribe, leave a comment on our discussion that we had with your questions.

Speaker 2:
[83:29] Yeah. Is there going to be consequences? Are we going to start seeing NGOs and SPLC? Are we going to start seeing handcuffs because that's what's needed?

Speaker 3:
[83:37] Yeah. No question, Matt. With that, fellas, I think we did it.

Speaker 2:
[83:41] I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thank you so much, Michael Watley, and thank you to the Minions. Remember, if you have not yet, go to the YouTube and hit that subscribe because it's more fun in video. So until next time, Minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you on Friday. Stay Ruthless.