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Speaker 3:
[02:02] Come on, baby.

Speaker 5:
[02:04] Yes, sir. It's The Fighter and The Psycho Mike.

Speaker 3:
[02:09] Let's do it.

Speaker 5:
[02:10] Is that fair?

Speaker 3:
[02:11] The Fighter and The Male Model today.

Speaker 5:
[02:13] Oh, facts.

Speaker 3:
[02:13] Let's just go with that.

Speaker 5:
[02:14] Thanks for doing this, pal. Bryan's in Florida, where all old people go to die. So we had to grace him that exemption.

Speaker 3:
[02:22] Plane shuffleboard.

Speaker 5:
[02:23] So I sent out the bat signal in Austin. You answered, bud.

Speaker 3:
[02:26] Yes, I did.

Speaker 5:
[02:26] What's going on, brother?

Speaker 3:
[02:28] I've been having the beauty slash the demand of farm life. Our goats, there was like a dozen pregnant female goats, obviously female.

Speaker 5:
[02:40] And is it one male goat doing all the, damn, it's just one male?

Speaker 3:
[02:43] They bring in, they bring in, it ended up being two because like one guy, he like his dick got tired. But the guy brought in his billy goats and he's just started fucking.

Speaker 5:
[02:56] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[02:56] And he started fucking to the point that they tried to fence off the women to make sure, and they would, he would jump a fence or they would jump a fence to get some sweet dick.

Speaker 5:
[03:06] Damn.

Speaker 3:
[03:06] And he impregnated so many and then they get bigger, they get bigger, they get bigger, their nip, their teats would start to protrude. And I'm like, man, when's this going to go? And then all of a sudden, once one started giving birth, it just started, and I had 11 in the last four days.

Speaker 5:
[03:21] And how long are they pregnant for? Like regular pregnancy?

Speaker 3:
[03:26] No, no, no, not like human. But it's not like, it's not like a kiddie. It's like four months or something like that.

Speaker 5:
[03:30] Oh, wow. So a good amount of time.

Speaker 3:
[03:32] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[03:32] Then what are you going to do with all these? You just have an influx of goats.

Speaker 3:
[03:35] Yeah, just keep them and just like figure out how to keep them alive and assimilate into the thing.

Speaker 5:
[03:42] Just let them run wild. Do you run into the wilderness? Do you ever kill anything on your farm? When you say farm, I mean, when I hear farm, I'm like, yeah, you got to make some tough decisions.

Speaker 3:
[03:53] Yeah, I only-

Speaker 5:
[03:54] Cow gets a runny nose. See you.

Speaker 3:
[03:58] Chickens mostly, but yeah, like livestock, they get certain forms of sickness and you got to do what the most humane thing is. I actually talked about this in detail on a podcast. I did the Gameplan pod. I was like, the one thing that farming has done and it's taught me about life as a whole, is that in order to have a meaningful life, you have to do a bunch of shit you don't want to do.

Speaker 5:
[04:25] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[04:26] Especially the younger generations, I'm not going to be that guy, like old man, like you kids don't understand. But I think because of the access to the internet and things, like this hedonistic addiction, it's like, yeah, but I don't want to. I see that guy who's like really blowing up on the internet right now, he wears glasses. He's like a financial advisor. And he brings people on and just talks shit because they'll be like, I have four kids and no job and I buy clothes every day on Tmoo. And he just literally just rips them. I forgot, he's blowing up right now in like the digital sphere.

Speaker 5:
[04:59] But I feel like those guys come and go.

Speaker 3:
[05:01] They do. They do. One guy gets hot. Caleb Hammer. Yeah, that fella. He's like really popular. And a lot of his videos that I see, because I don't really watch the show, but I see a lot of the highlights. A lot of them are, he goes, okay, you're $75,000 in debt. And you're a professional macrame animal maker on Etsy. Why don't you get a nine to five? And to a T, they'll all say like, but I don't want to. And I'm getting back to my point is like, I don't want to chop a chicken's head off. I don't want to put a goat out of its misery, but it's what needs to be done for everyone to thrive. It's what has to, you just gotta, I don't want to do a lot of things. I don't want to fuck one woman. I really don't, but it's what I do. I made a commitment and that's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just dim the rules. It'll be a net positive in the end.

Speaker 5:
[05:55] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[05:55] But that's.

Speaker 5:
[05:56] Well, with that guy, it sounds like he's kind of doing, from what I've never seen him, but from what I hear, it sounds like he's kind of doing great work. Hold on, you're in debt for $75,000, you have four kids, and you just want to keep making fucking clay models on Etsy?

Speaker 3:
[06:12] What are we doing? And then it'll be a lot of people who, like 35-year-old dude who's really healthy and like no disability or anything like that, and he'll be receiving government assistance. The guy said, go to a construction site right now. Why are you on food stamps?

Speaker 5:
[06:31] Yeah, I kind of dig this guy now.

Speaker 3:
[06:32] He's great. He is.

Speaker 5:
[06:33] He's a 27-year-old with more debt than anyone should ever have. It's like, hey, we got to figure this out, man. The route you're going, it's not good.

Speaker 3:
[06:41] And I think-

Speaker 5:
[06:42] Let me see a clip of him chin to make sure I'm cool with it.

Speaker 3:
[06:44] He's also good on camera. He's like a charismatic fellow.

Speaker 5:
[06:47] I can't imagine with 3 million subscribers doing something right.

Speaker 6:
[06:50] Let's go with the one you just mentioned. My name is Rachel Justine, and I'm 27. I'm based out of Austin, Texas, and this is Financial Audit.

Speaker 7:
[06:59] Thank you for living in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 6:
[07:02] My main thing is I am a spiritual coach. Okay.

Speaker 7:
[07:06] Interesting. Yeah. How does that go?

Speaker 6:
[07:09] How does that go?

Speaker 7:
[07:13] It's like therapy or?

Speaker 6:
[07:15] It's not therapy. It's a hybrid between online coaching, online courses, and yeah, and also now that things are opening back up, I'm doing in-person things, and it's a hybrid of like yoga, meditation, life coaching, upliftment, and so she's not making money, essentially guiding people into feeling good and fulfillment in their life.

Speaker 7:
[07:43] Okay. And how successful are you in this?

Speaker 6:
[07:46] Um, not, it's a work in progress.

Speaker 5:
[07:50] Hey, good for her for having the balls come on.

Speaker 3:
[07:52] I agree.

Speaker 6:
[07:52] Making, you know, 40K months and $40,000 a month. Uh-huh. That'd be nice.

Speaker 3:
[07:58] I know, right?

Speaker 6:
[07:58] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:
[08:00] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[08:01] So that was like, that's where the head was at. My head was at.

Speaker 7:
[08:05] And how much are you bringing in a month?

Speaker 6:
[08:07] It varies.

Speaker 7:
[08:08] Average. Give me an average. Let's work with an average here. Break it down between the low months, high months. What's the average across? Just a brief pause to ask you to please consider subscribing.

Speaker 6:
[08:18] A low month could be anywhere from 2,000, 3,000.

Speaker 7:
[08:24] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[08:24] To an average is, I would say 6,500.

Speaker 7:
[08:30] Okay, that's... That's not bad at all.

Speaker 6:
[08:31] 6,500.

Speaker 7:
[08:32] That's your average. That's not your high. That's your average.

Speaker 5:
[08:34] Do you think she's lying?

Speaker 7:
[08:35] Okay, 6,500. Fantastic.

Speaker 5:
[08:38] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[08:38] What's the complaint about that?

Speaker 3:
[08:42] Because I spent 16 a month. My nuts, 25.

Speaker 7:
[08:45] How long have you been doing this full time?

Speaker 6:
[08:48] I mean, in the last few years.

Speaker 7:
[08:50] Okay, so a couple years bring in personal business to pretty much $80,000 a year. People would love that. I mean, you're $5,000 over the median household income in Austin and well above the median in the United States. And it's just you.

Speaker 6:
[09:06] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[09:07] Debt.

Speaker 7:
[09:08] Why are we in this debt in the first place? We haven't even talked about it. We'll go into it. But why $80,000 a year?

Speaker 6:
[09:14] Why?

Speaker 7:
[09:15] Yeah, why are you in this debt? But you get into it. Why are you not out of it? What is happening?

Speaker 6:
[09:21] That's a question. I mean, it's on my vision board to have all my debts be cleared. So I think that's where, yeah, I didn't really understand the nature of having a credit card.

Speaker 5:
[09:37] So yeah, you can start making a lot of the problem. And you almost feel bad for it. But nowhere in school, like my dad teaches finance in college currently.

Speaker 3:
[09:48] Really?

Speaker 5:
[09:49] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[09:49] Nice.

Speaker 5:
[09:50] But he never talked to me about it. Never, because it just wasn't, no one really goes through that stuff. Like, you know, I have a double major. No one ever told me like, hey, man, interest rates, credit cards, debt, like this is how this breaks down, property taxes, state taxes. Like, it's kind of this foreign thing, which is by design, I think. So like this young lady who's an entrepreneur, granted, she's a little earthy, and I don't think it's her thing. She opens up this business, she's taking credit cards, she's getting loans, you just don't know.

Speaker 3:
[10:24] You don't know.

Speaker 5:
[10:25] So then, by the time you realize, you're like, oh shit, I don't know what she's in, $50,000 in debt, and she's like, oh my God, it's like, yeah, that's how this goes.

Speaker 3:
[10:33] She's way less shitty than most people, because at least she was nice and honest and kind of open, she wasn't equivocating. But you were saying, like, no one teaches, I think that's by design, and I said, absolutely. But now I think about it, it also may just be by circumstance, in the sense that schooling kind of came about in this country, reading, writing, arithmetic, and people get into arguments about the system and why it was created to make better factory workers. Maybe, okay, fine. Reading, writing, arithmetic, the end. Grades K through 12. Somewhere along the line, there was a transition from only guys like Andrew Carnegie had credit, but the average guy didn't have credit. You had a savings account, and you paid for your rent slash mortgage, and you paid for your family's food. Pretty black and white. I had money, I spend money. Let me save some. And it was like a pretty clear balance sheet. Things transitioned to now you have loans and like refis and that all, and the schooling system didn't change. And I'm not necessarily sure if it was on purpose or if it was just like, this is now our existence. This is our real reality. This is what really matters to the average adult. And we're not talking about shit in the school.

Speaker 5:
[11:50] No one's doing it. So it's on the parents and it's like, man, parents are busy, dude. They're busy and they're assuming when they send their kids to school that they're going to get them ready for life in the workplace. But it's really not like, even I ask my kiddos all the time, like, what'd you learn today? What'd you guys go through? Things haven't changed in how long? Like the school system is one of the only systems. Now there's some examples where they have adapted and made some changes. But the school system really hasn't adapted or changed in fucking 50 years. We're just going to keep doing the same shit over and over. It's wild to me.

Speaker 3:
[12:28] It is wild, especially when you consider how, I don't know shit about education, but I do not mean, look, I went to school and I have a child. I think back, the real valid lessons from traditional schooling, most of them were kind of latent benefits. It wasn't stuff I learned in class. Obviously, there was the having a good basic fundamental understanding of arithmetic and obviously literacy and being able to write and speak. That's very important. That's probably the most important, but outside of that, learning how to socially interact properly, learning how to meet deadlines, and a lot of it too was in school. I mean, sorry, in sports.

Speaker 5:
[13:10] In sports.

Speaker 3:
[13:11] And-

Speaker 5:
[13:12] That's why it's so, I don't mean to interrupt you, but that's why it's so important to put your kids in sports. The, your kid doesn't have to have a future at a Division I college, doesn't have to play for the, or the dark, our Dodgers. No, that's not the goal. The goal, if you put your kid in sports and don't let them quit, force them to do it no matter what, is because you got to have carry through, but also you learn a work ethic, you learn how to communicate with teammates, you learn discipline, commitment, like, and then also to your point too, you learn, like, in the dugout or in the locker room, how to relate to people from different perspectives of life. It just, it goes so much further. And even if you look at, like, the, it's like 70% of CEOs have a sports background, in some facet. Now, I'm not saying they played Division I or even D3, but they played high school.

Speaker 3:
[14:03] They know what it's like to, I think the biggest thing for me with team sports, especially, was always, there's so many avenues in life where you don't have, literally, don't have to figure out a way to make it work with people that you think are fucking tools or assholes or dicks. But there were people that were really close teammates of mine that I was like, this guy fucking sucks. Especially upperclassmen, when I was a freshman or a sophomore, I was like, this guy genuinely makes my life shitty. But then there was those four hours a day during, and then the two hours on Friday nights, we were like, this is my boy. You got to figure out, together we symbiotically have to make success. And I think it's really important.

Speaker 5:
[14:46] Like there's a kid on one of Tiger's teams where he's just gifted. He's just different, he's gifted. He's so gifted, you can guess his ethnicity. He's so fast, so explosive football. And he's probably the best 10-year-old receiver I've ever seen. But he doesn't have to do the same work that the other kids do. Sometimes he'll miss practice, sometimes he'll run the wrong route, but skills scores touchdown. And he's like, I don't get it, man. I'm like, yep, you're getting the hard lesson. Sometimes there's going to be outliers, man. There's going to be things where guys have this advantage and it's just sports isn't fair. It's just, it's not fair. I said, now, as you go along, he's good right now, you keep grinding, you keep grinding. Because eventually, T has a lot of talent, but eventually that talent, everyone, you're going to need to spot where everyone has talent. And then everyone's also going to work hard. So when people go, hard work beats talent. It's like, that's not true. Cause I know a lot of talented kids who work just as hard as your kid and then your kid's fucked.

Speaker 3:
[15:57] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[15:58] So for T, I think he's like dealing this like, well, I did whatever five batting practices a week. That kid did none, but he's still hitting home runs. Like, yeah, dude, that's sports.

Speaker 3:
[16:08] Yeah, it is. It is. And that's also like, it's really interesting that you brought this up. Cause it's very serendipitous in the last week or so. I've not only been having this conversation, but I had come across all these. And I think that maybe it's secretly how algorithms work, but I've been having these conversations. And then also, I've seen, whether it be serendipity or like a machine force, I've seen these clips of, god damn it, I wish I could remember this guy's name. It's not Matt Barnes. But he's a former, he is great, he's a really cool guy. But he's a former NBA player that does a podcast now, and he's really good.

Speaker 5:
[16:51] Gilbert Arenas.

Speaker 3:
[16:52] It was Gilbert Arenas. Thank you.

Speaker 5:
[16:53] He's big in the space.

Speaker 3:
[16:54] And interviewer asked, who's the guy who had all the gifts, but didn't put in the effort to become a GOAT? And Gilbert Arenas goes like 99% of people who were in the NBA, because all the guys who make it, if you're in the NBA, you have all the gifts. You're more gifted than anyone. But then he broke it down, he's like, that's all guys. We all could, but then there's the killers. But the number one that comes to my mind was Vince Carter. No one was more physically gifted than Vince Carter. He just didn't have the killer instinct, blah, blah, blah. Then I watched that, I see another clip from Charles Barkley, who talks about, I was as good, if not better than anybody else in the world. And he was. Charles Barkley was no argument in the top three greatest basketball players in the world for a certain period of time. For a certain period of time. His first year, his last year with Philly and his first year with Phoenix. Charles Barkley was fucking amazing. But he said, anyone who becomes an All-Star, certainly you get to Hall of Fame level, everyone has crazy gifts. He said, you have to have the combination of the talent. He said, people talk about hard work and it beats talent. He's like, no, talent and hard work together crushes all. And then, again, the same thing. Just yesterday, I'm watching an interview with Jay Cutler, not the quarterback, the bodybuilder. And he's like, he talks, the thing about Ronnie, what was different about Ronnie was that all of us, if you have your IFBB card, you're gifted. And it's true, if you had to get to even to like high level amateur bodybuilding, you have crazy levels of genetic. So the difference with Ronnie is Ronnie and I would go do guest posing, he'd get off the plane, it's two in the morning. He's like, let me go train now, let's go do hip leg day. And I'm like, Ronnie, and of course Jake Cutler works hard. Jake Cutler was a fucking animal. And he's like, this guy's next level. And then you hear the stories of Kobe and Jordan. There's a different thing. There's talent and this insane instinct to be better.

Speaker 5:
[18:57] It's a weird mix. Yeah, you got to have that killer instinct. It's like one of the guys I coach with on the football team, AJ, he's the all time leading scorer at Texas for basketball. He played with Kevin Durant. He was in Camps and had to defend Derrick Rose, and I asked him, because I saw a video of Kevin Durant and this dude, I forget the dude, but he's an all-star. He plays for Toronto. He's talking shit to Durant, but he's miked up, and Durant goes, this is the middle of the game. Durant's trying to post him up, and the guy's talking shit to Durant, and Durant goes, buddy, your best year was my worst year. He goes, what the fuck are you talking about? And the guy's like, you ain't shit, you've lost step. He goes, oh, and Durant goes, you're about to learn today. He goes, give me the ball. Jukes him out, dunks it, and you're just like, what the fuck? So I brought up that video to AJ. I'm like, hey, Durant was just different. He's like, dude, when he came on campus, he goes, we're in the weight room. And it's kind of a famous clip of Durant, Camp Bench 135. Can't. He cares. They show him just like, so they said, he said, they're in the weight room and he's weak at everything. And one of the, he goes, one of the captain team were like, man, you weak. And he goes, excuse me? He goes, you weak in here. And he goes, wait till we get out there. And he was like, okay. And he goes, we went out there. He's like, dude, we're like, oh shit. He was like, I mean, literally did whatever he want to whoever he wanted at any given moment. He's like, it was just, you're just like, oh, there's, there's levels. There is no fuck how much you bench. What you know, what your power cleaner snatches. Durant was like, oh, cool.

Speaker 3:
[20:39] I can't bench whatever 135, especially with basketball, because you're talking about like change of direction and explosive. And like people lose. And I'm not world's authority on sports, sports science. But I was really fortunate to work with literally some of the best in the world, watching them train some of the best athletes in the world and being there and being a part of it. And people overlook the nervous system. There is clearly obviously like muscle contraction and speed. That's a thing. And like the length of your bones is the some people have more advanced nervous systems. And they're, you know, they just can react quicker. They can move their brain sees things faster than and processes things faster than we do. And like, I guarantee, like, that's what that's kind of what was going on there. It's like, yeah, sure. I can't do 10 push ups. I'm going to fucking embarrass you.

Speaker 5:
[21:27] Yeah, and what I'm here for, and we're all here for, I'm the best.

Speaker 4:
[21:31] I'm not a power lifter, by the way.

Speaker 5:
[21:32] I don't give a fuck about the weight room. I spend my time in a basketball gym, you know? But it's just these outliers. I love hearing those fricking stories, man. I'm like, he was that good. He was never seen anything like it. AJ was top recruit of his class, monster, monster.

Speaker 3:
[21:48] I've heard you do this, that clip, I even heard Matt Damon talking about watching that clip. But that clip of you talking about the one time you were lucky enough to train with John Jones. And he's like, he just comes in late, he doesn't warm up, and he just fucked people up. There's a difference.

Speaker 5:
[22:03] Yeah, I think for some guys, if you get to that level and then you see those guys who it's like, ah, he's just that gifted? But I always knew, I was blessed with some gifts, but I was in Tony Gonzalez. So I knew in order to get my foot in the door, I have to outwork everyone. So that was like my thing. And I knew that shit, especially when I got to college. When I walked on to the University of Colorado, I was like, all right, they gave me a shot. Now the only, there's a lot of good guys, some are faster, some are bigger, some are stronger, but I'll just be the guy where like, that dude fucking works. So I knew that I could separate myself with that, but then eventually you're going to run into a guy who's bigger, faster, stronger, better at catching footballs and works just as hard as you. And he's the starting tight end in the NFL, and then you're selling supplements door to door. But that work ethic, you can take that and apply it to other shit. And that's where, that's the benefit of it. Let's take a little break from chat with my boy, Mike Catherwood, because this episode of The Fighter & The Mic is brought to you by O-O-O'Reilly Auto Parts who are in the business of keeping your car on the freaking road. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly, helpful service and parts knowledge you need for all your maintenance and repairs. All right. They've got thousands of parts and accessories and stock either in-store or online, so you never have to worry if you're in a jam. The team at O'Reilly Auto Parts tests your battery, whatever you need to replace your windshield wipers. It's super easy, super easy to get done. And you'll find the people at the O'Reilly Parts shop near you is your one-stop shop for all things auto. Do it yourself and you can find what you need in-store or online. Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today. Visit them at oreillyauto.com/fighter. That's oreillyauto.com/fighter. O-O-O-Riley Auto Parts.

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Speaker 3:
[25:47] Especially the real, like the, when we're talking about, I'm not trying to say what sports harder or better, but when you're talking about the living on the edge sports, combat sports, football, American football, I would imagine Rugby, NASCAR F1, where it's really, you kind of, everything else in the world gets the volume turned down. Like if you can make it in that world, you can kind of transition if you want, if you put your mind to it, to transition it.

Speaker 5:
[26:13] Yep, that's where baseball's a little different. I think-

Speaker 3:
[26:16] Baseball players are just crazy.

Speaker 5:
[26:18] It's twofold. It's like the reason why baseball in America is the most participated sport amongst kids is because at a young level, you don't have to be athletic and you can still contribute and play the game. In football, right away, you got to be pretty athletic. If you want to find out how athletic a kid is, go ahead and run track and then you'll be like, oh, my kid's not that athletic. But in baseball-

Speaker 3:
[26:45] Track and gymnastics are the best display of athleticism.

Speaker 5:
[26:49] Pure raw-ness athleticism. But with baseball, it's like you and I love the Dodgers.

Speaker 3:
[26:54] Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5:
[26:55] I don't miss a game. I was watching Max Muncie whose hand-eye coordination is freakish. But when you look at his build, he-

Speaker 3:
[27:04] It's exciting because you're like, that's my fat uncle.

Speaker 5:
[27:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my fat aunt. So it's like he's not a professional athlete in any other capacity. But in baseball, he built his hand-eye coordination. He was born with it and the coordination and all that. But in his glove works amazing, especially at third. But baseball is different where, say, Kevin Durant want to play baseball, it ain't happening. Derek Rose, it ain't happening. But it's just not their thing. But baseball is a thing where you can't just pick up the bat and be instantly the stud right away. It takes a lot of reps, a lot of dedication in order, especially if you start moving like travel ball teams. Like right now at 10, there's some kids who are outliers. Are they bigger than Tiger? No. Stronger? No. Faster? No. More athletic? Nope. But their dads have them hitting every single day, working with a coach, doing glove work every single day. They've put in the hours where maybe the kid's not the most athletic, but when it comes to dedication and glove time and cage time, they're in there more than anybody. So right now, they're balling. But eventually, those athletes, if they stick with it, because I think baseball and MMA are similar, where even if you're a great athlete, you're just not going to come in and beat up pro-level guys.

Speaker 3:
[28:31] No.

Speaker 5:
[28:31] It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 3:
[28:32] Look at Greg Hardy. Yeah, so he's a really, really exceptional athlete.

Speaker 5:
[28:35] All pro. So you have to put in the time for the technique and the execution. You're not just going to be like, well, I ran a 4, 4, 40, so I can beat Tom Asselman. I was like, no, you can't.

Speaker 3:
[28:46] No, I remember training.

Speaker 5:
[28:48] Do you see what I'm saying? I know it's a long one. Those are two of the sports where it's like, you can be a freak, but you have to constantly work on it. And the technique is different than the other sports.

Speaker 3:
[29:03] American baseball is because I understand as a huge fan, I still understand if you're not going to a baseball, you're like, this is fucking boring. NFL on Sunday, you're like, I don't even like football, but Jesus Christ, that was amazing. What I just saw was, and of course, NBA basketball, the athleticism and the excitement that can do. Baseball can be very, very boring, but if you love it, you love it. And here's one of the aspects of what I love about baseball is, like you said, I mean, Fernando Valenzuela is the perfect example. He was a great human being on top of being a Cy Young level pitcher. He was a freak. But also, it was awesome that your fat, out of shape uncle was dominating.

Speaker 5:
[29:41] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[29:41] There was something you connect with.

Speaker 5:
[29:42] Yeah, super smart.

Speaker 3:
[29:42] There's something that disconnects you from seeing Francis Ngannou, because you're like, well, I'm not.

Speaker 5:
[29:47] You're like, oh, it's not for me.

Speaker 3:
[29:49] Like Fernando's fucking torching dudes, and he looks literally like the guy who just delivered tamales.

Speaker 5:
[29:54] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[29:55] But also, there's all these stories in other sports. There's the Christian Okoye's and the Hakeem Olajuwon's, where they find freak athletes. And I would put Ngannou in that category as well. They find really talented athletes and they make them football players. They make them basketball players. They make Dikembe Matumbo. They're like, I know you've never seen a basketball. We can do this though. We can't play baseball. I can't play baseball.

Speaker 5:
[30:18] There's nothing we can do.

Speaker 3:
[30:20] Either you got it or you don't.

Speaker 5:
[30:21] You got to pick up, you got to put the time in and it takes a lot of timing and technique and repetition. And some kids are like, and that's why 75% of kids quit baseball at the age of 13. Because at 13, that's when it gets really serious. And it's like, oh, I haven't put the time. And it's like, those other kids did blah, blah, and there's nothing we can do.

Speaker 3:
[30:40] And it becomes unenjoyed. I would say right around eighth grade is where you start to see like the little league crowd kind of die off because it becomes, even if you're not good, it becomes really unfun at that point.

Speaker 5:
[30:51] Yeah, unless your parents kind of know what's up and they're like, you know, just stick in rec and you can still have fun. I would say it's even younger now because travel ball has become such a business.

Speaker 3:
[31:03] Yeah, I was good. That's a good point. I was good.

Speaker 5:
[31:04] Eight, nine, and 10. Like the amount of work my son has to do for the team that he's on and the constant tournaments. It's like, okay.

Speaker 3:
[31:14] Things have changed for sure. That's a good point.

Speaker 5:
[31:16] Things are different.

Speaker 3:
[31:17] I was good. And in high school, I played with a lot of, I played with, on my high school team and then also amongst travel teams and stuff. I played with a lot of Major League Baseball players. I grew up in a part of Southern California where it was really a big deal.

Speaker 5:
[31:31] California's the hub for MLB, by the way.

Speaker 3:
[31:34] And it was still, I played with a lot of guys, really talented baseball players. And I didn't start playing travel ball, like Colt and Babe Ruth and stuff, until I was like 14 or like 13 or 14. And that's really what it should pick up. Nowadays, it's like what soccer was started to become in the 90s, where kids are playing on club teams at like seven. And you're like, oh, well, my whole life, baseball's transitioned into that.

Speaker 5:
[31:57] Yeah, and it's not great. And if you talk to any of the pro pros, like Chipper Jones, who's all time great for Atlanta Braves, even on Tiger's team, there's some big time pros pitching the World Series, stuff like that. And one of the pros' father was there and he was his coach. And so he's so knowledgeable on the game, he coached it. His son was a 10 year pro pitcher monster. And so I talked to him about it. He's small town in Texas, coached baseball all his life, coached his son. And I said, when did you know Clay was going to be a pro? He goes, at seven. I go, what? He goes, I was coaching teams and we put him out there with the older kids. And he goes, I was into the team. I wasn't really giving him a ton of attention. And my wife, he's like, who calls the shot. She's like, you need to start putting time into him. And he's like, all right, well, let's get them out there and see what happens. So he gets them out there. He's doing a drill and like his wife was like, we got one. I was like, at seven? He's like, yes. And I go, and was Clay like on travel teams and like doing it? He goes, no, no, no. He goes, it's a business now. It's a business. So people can take, basically take advantage of these parents where like, oh, my son needs to be on this elite team to play division one. Or my son needs to be in this big, you know, showcase tournaments. Like, no, he doesn't. If you're good enough, they'll find you.

Speaker 3:
[33:20] It's kind of what college became right around our, our era of high school, where you then you had like the specialized tutors and then kids would start prepping to get into college in like freshman year. And like, that's how, like smart people in the sixties, they were just like, well, this guy, this guy's smart. He's going to go to a good college. And then he went to law school if he wanted to go to like, like now they start kind of like preparing for things that are just should be the next logical step.

Speaker 5:
[33:48] And it's not good. It's not good. And then the, the, the, the evolution we're seeing of this is because like there was a kid on, not on our team, on another team, where I know the dad and I'm like, hey, where's, where's, you know, Andrew at? And he's like, oh, he reached his pitch limit for the year.

Speaker 3:
[34:06] That's, that's getting crazy.

Speaker 5:
[34:07] Oh, and we're in, you know, we're in April. There's six more tournaments for the year. I'm like, well, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, he threw over a thousand pitches this year. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, man. He's like, yeah, so this shut him down, only hit. I'm like, this isn't good. So what's going to start happening, we're seeing it now, is the level of participation at the high school level is down because kids are getting burnt out, throwing their arms out.

Speaker 3:
[34:33] You can filter it out early.

Speaker 5:
[34:35] They're burning the candle too hard where by the time they get to high school, like, fuck this, I'm out.

Speaker 3:
[34:39] That makes sense. And that makes sense.

Speaker 5:
[34:41] And scouts don't like it either. Like the pros are like, no, no, no, we don't want a kid who has too many mouths.

Speaker 3:
[34:46] Yeah. And it also like, it also anything much like that, that college prep that starts now in middle school, it also, it's just another thing that's adding to kids, not being able to be kids.

Speaker 5:
[35:00] Agree.

Speaker 3:
[35:00] I was talking to these kids, they go to UT and they're good, I like them. They're good kid. I trained Jiu-Jitsu with them and they're like good kids. And they were talking to me about like, they don't go to parties and they don't go to bars and stuff. And I was like, you aren't you 19? And he's like, yeah. Like now's the time you want pussy.

Speaker 5:
[35:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:19] Like I was walking over broken glass to get to wherever girls would be. He's like, yeah, but I have kind of go on my phone. I'll go on there.

Speaker 5:
[35:27] Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[35:27] And I was making fun of them. Right. And I, and then, but then I left and I was driving. I was like, dude, if I was 19 and I could just take bong loads and sit with my friends and then also interact with chicks and play PlayStation, that's exactly what I do.

Speaker 5:
[35:40] I get it.

Speaker 3:
[35:40] That's exactly what I do.

Speaker 5:
[35:41] It's not good, but I get it.

Speaker 3:
[35:42] But they're not being forced to go. And like talking to my daughter's friend, my daughter's in seventh grade and I was talking to my daughter's female friends. And they were talking, bitching and moaning me kind of jokingly about the boys at their school, you know, and I'm picking on making fun of both the boys and the girls, because I know the boys at my daughter's grade. I was like, they were like getting fist fights or anything? Like, no, like they were like indignant. I was like, no bullies, it's like bullies. And then like a kid draws a line in the sand and they're like, no, and I sure enough, I go, I pick him up and everyone's like this. And I'm like, man, you guys need to be kids, you know, like someone needs to bully somebody here. Yeah. And I'm not by no means am I encouraging violence or but, but there was a thing that's like that guy sucks. And I've been pushed too far. And like, I'm going to stand up and maybe I can ask it or vice versa. Maybe I'm being like complete. I was, you know, like any 13 year old, I didn't have a sense of like how much I might be hurting another kid's feelings. And it's like, dude, you got to cross a certain line. Then you get taught a lesson and you put your foot in your mouth. And that's how you, there's no books that can equate to that.

Speaker 5:
[36:47] You know, but I would say it's more like Tiger had an issue with a bully and he says, what would you do dad? I go out and punch them right in the mouth. And Tiger did that. Now, if this is a back where Tiger went to school in LA, he'd been expelled for the year, kicked out, I'd have to come in. Parents might have filed police reports on this chick. There might be an actionable, yeah. In Texas, they're like, you're good. Kid deserved it. They're like, he's known for it. We're glad Tiger stuck up for himself. I was like, oh wow.

Speaker 8:
[37:15] Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, this is Texas.

Speaker 5:
[37:17] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[37:17] And there's something to that. And I think, look, I was getting asked, I did Shawn Johnson's podcast. He was a really nice guy. And he was in Navy SEALs, he's the macho kind of real alpha Chad, like a real alpha, not like what the internet tries to create.

Speaker 5:
[37:29] You're like a legit tough guy.

Speaker 3:
[37:30] He's a fucking Navy SEAL.

Speaker 5:
[37:32] Yeah, they turned his stone around a little too much.

Speaker 3:
[37:34] Can't really, yeah, exactly. And we were talking about that, and I was saying that, he asked me, why did I move to Texas from California? And I said, I'm not going to be like every other coastal guy that moves to Texas or Tennessee or Florida, and then talk shit about, I love LA. I love it, I love it. It's my culture and my friends and my families, and I love a lot of other things. I said, but the thing I love and the one besides, the people top tier is the reason why Texas is better. The people here are fucking amazing. They're awesome. But I think which is correlated to is like that whole, since the beginning of this state, since it was its own country, is there's this idea of personal freedom. It's like, okay, handle it on your own. Live as you want to live in it. As you're pointing out, a fist fight in school, even if the kid deserved it, in California, there's going to be so much red tape about it. Here, they're like, well, okay, but maybe that kid shouldn't be such a fucking asshole.

Speaker 5:
[38:33] Correct. I was like, oh, fuck, I'm going to have to deal with the dad. The dad literally was like, yeah, man, hopefully my kid learned the lesson. I was like, oh, really? Yeah, no doubt, man. No doubt.

Speaker 3:
[38:45] I have the best example of how, now granted, where I moved from in Los Angeles was a very exaggerated cartoonish environment. I lived in Venice and you're very familiar. It's like Venice is, there's nothing, it's insane. It's an insane-

Speaker 5:
[39:01] It's a special place.

Speaker 3:
[39:02] There's like Berkeley, Venice Beach, California, and there's these little spots, Boise is becoming like, it's just this weird Coeur d'Alene, Idaho where they're peculiar. You feel like you stepped on a set of a movie. But my wife used to go on that next-door type apps where it's like the neighborhoods going on.

Speaker 5:
[39:23] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[39:24] So in Venice-

Speaker 5:
[39:25] I'm involved in that.

Speaker 3:
[39:25] Yeah, it's kind of fun. But my wife would, almost on a daily basis, I'd come home from whatever I was doing and my wife would be like, oh, there's a neighbor on Dell or in Rose. There's a lurker and a suspicious character and the girls are talking about maybe they need to call the police. The week we moved to Texas, my wife was on a Facebook group that the neighbors who welcomed us, they came and they welcomed us. They're like, welcome to the neighborhood, blah, blah, blah, like local farms. The week we moved, she started this Facebook group to be in contact with these girls. There was a suspicious dude walking down Adrian Way. We need to, and every person by it, I just got a new 38. I'd love him to try that. Oh, he needs to step on my property. That'd be fantastic. You're encouraging. No discussion of calling the cops, no discussion of like, my husband's walking out to the street. He's going to take care of it. He's, don't worry. Todd's going to deal with this guy. And I was like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. This is sick.

Speaker 5:
[40:23] I'm on like those citizen apps and all that shit. I just love looking and seeing if there's any, you know, like weird people in the neighborhood or whatever. When we were in LA, I would say three, four weeks before we left, I'm on the app and this guy probably like six, seven houses down gets murdered, decapitated.

Speaker 3:
[40:47] Good times. Okay.

Speaker 5:
[40:48] Yeah. And this is how numb you are in LA, like especially after the fires and after COVID, home invasion in my neighborhood was up 700%. So I'm like one of only maybe two coaches whose houses didn't get robbed, right? And so there's robberies and crime happening nonstop in the hood in our neighborhood, nonstop. But I'm so used to them. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. And it's pretty wild shit, but I'm like, but so common, like, oh damn, damn, that's great. Hopefully he's all right. All right. Damn decapitate. That's wild. And I just keep going, keep going. I come here, I get on the same app, and they're freaking out. Oh yeah. Decapitate. Medieval times. What the? It's gang related. I think cartel shit. But then here, it's like the only thing I see is like, did anybody get the license plates of that cyber, that black cyber truck going way too fast down the neighborhood? I'm like, oh buddy, oh buddy. Where I come from, a guy got decapitated.

Speaker 3:
[41:48] There is the, oh, that's cute, conversation where you have... And I used to get mad at New Yorkers. A very older generation of New Yorker would move to LA, usually working in the entertainment industry. And they were always telling me about like, well, back at home, they don't do that kind of thing. It's easy. It's, you know, if you're from Long Island, that just becomes easy because you don't have to deal with all this pussy California shit all day. But now I find myself doing it. I was in an Uber and we were in traffic on the freeway. And he's like, oh yeah, well, traffic's starting to get so bad out here. I just don't know what to do. And I was like, oh, that's cute. Cause I was coming back from, I was coming from the airport where I just got back from LA just on the 405. And I was like, five seconds later, he goes like, yeah, man, and this homeless problems. He was like, oh, buddy, that's cute.

Speaker 5:
[42:36] But I get it. But that's his, but that's all he knows.

Speaker 3:
[42:38] No, it's true.

Speaker 5:
[42:39] That's all he knows, you know?

Speaker 3:
[42:41] But the homeless problem in LA now has gotten to, I think I'm living in a simulation. Like, what do we do? Like, I remember the first time I saw factory farming, like up close, where I was looking, I was like, what do we, we can't, this can't be how we just live our, like we can't just treat animal like, what the fuck are we doing? And you see Skid Row, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, time out.

Speaker 5:
[43:05] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:05] What are we doing?

Speaker 5:
[43:06] We're all cool with this?

Speaker 3:
[43:07] This is insane.

Speaker 5:
[43:08] It's been that way for how long?

Speaker 3:
[43:10] At least 20 years. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[43:11] But now it's gone too fast where I think it's too far fetched to help. It's kind of like, what are you going to do to clean it? Like, what are you going to do? What the fuck are you going to do? To be fair, like, and now California has so many more people, especially compared to Austin and stuff like that. So you're going to obviously just through shared numbers and the odds, you have more homeless. So that makes sense. But also the weather, but the weather too. I remember the last time I went downtown Austin. It ain't great.

Speaker 3:
[43:40] That's true. But are you going to?

Speaker 5:
[43:42] It ain't great.

Speaker 3:
[43:42] But no, I'm more aware. When I talk about the weather, I think with Southern California is an added loop to the homeless, is that you're not going to fucking die.

Speaker 5:
[43:50] You're not going to freeze.

Speaker 3:
[43:51] And that, yeah, that has, that speaks a lot to a homeless person. Yeah, I'm going to not die.

Speaker 5:
[43:57] But either way, like you're not going to, unless you're in the valley, but if you're in like Santa Monica or Venice, it never gets too hot, it never gets too cold. So it's a fucking dream if you're homeless. Florida gets too hot. We're like, dude, I'm going to dehydrate.

Speaker 3:
[44:09] Senior citizens die.

Speaker 5:
[44:09] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So California is literally like home base.

Speaker 3:
[44:13] It's a spot.

Speaker 5:
[44:14] It checks all boxes for homeless.

Speaker 3:
[44:15] I remember when I moved to Jersey, and I like the week I was there and I opened up the New York Times and I saw homeless man froze to death.

Speaker 4:
[44:24] And I was like, what?

Speaker 3:
[44:27] Like I genuinely, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, oh, that's real. If you live on the streets, you can die. Because where I came from, that's not the case. That was so crazy. It's, I also think like, the funny thing about California politics is that they never want to, and I'll defend them, it's ugly, but they never want to actually deal with a problem. No. Homeless aside, that's human life. But like, for instance, like traffic got really bad in the 90s. It started to escalate to the point where, so they go, let's let motorcyclists go through in between lanes. And you go, first off, hardly 1% of California rides a motorcycle. Secondly, that's the most insane, dangerous shit I've ever heard. None of you who just came up with that bill, ride a motorcycle, because that's insane.

Speaker 5:
[45:19] And then the other thing they did, let's create HOV lanes, we got to pay.

Speaker 3:
[45:22] You got to...

Speaker 5:
[45:23] You're like, well, that still doesn't help.

Speaker 3:
[45:25] I go like, wait, isn't anybody, is there any civil engineers that came up with this? Or is it just like my mom's friends who were on city council?

Speaker 5:
[45:32] To be fair to them too, they're like, the other thing is there's so many people here. It's just...

Speaker 3:
[45:36] What are you gonna do?

Speaker 5:
[45:37] What the are you gonna do?

Speaker 3:
[45:38] They talk about like, we're gonna build shelters and we're gonna build homes and we're gonna build, and maybe, oh, sorry, maybe their intentions are good. Maybe they have pure motives. But they, I go like, nah, and maybe, I'm just an idiot. I'm just, I'll be sitting next to Dr. Drew, who offered up his services to the city of LA and the state of California. He's like, no, you gotta start, I know it sounds horrible. You gotta start rounding these people up and forcing drug treatment and mental health services on them because you can take all the, build all the shelters you want. You can open up the Four Seasons Forum. If you're fucking schizophrenic or addicted to heroin or both, which is a lot of time, you're sunk. You understand these people. You're talking about giving people job opportunities and programs to help them. They think they're Jesus and they're eating feces. Like this is not, I'm not trying to be a dick. Like you have lost sight of what's going on. I've been in AA meetings and NA meetings in Venice where dudes are genuinely continuing to talk about how the CIA is following them with drones and stuff. And I was like, Oh, you think you're going to give this guy a room and it's going to help?

Speaker 5:
[46:45] And everything's going to work out? What do you think of Spencer Pratt running for governor?

Speaker 3:
[46:50] I like Spencer personally.

Speaker 5:
[46:51] Is it mayor or governor?

Speaker 3:
[46:52] No, governor.

Speaker 5:
[46:52] It's governor, right?

Speaker 3:
[46:53] No, well, actually no mayor. Mayor of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5:
[46:55] Yeah. Cause he's trying to bass his job, right?

Speaker 3:
[46:59] I think, I got to be honest, I'm not in the business of like just getting on here and talking shit, especially about stuff that I'm not all that involved with, but I, I, I'll do just as good, if not better a job than Karen Bass. She's not qualified at all to do anything.

Speaker 5:
[47:15] Yeah. That's my thing. It's like people are like, oh, he's not qualified to call on. What's your qualifications? What are you talking about? You think what's mayor Bass's background? This, no one's really doing shit. It can't get any worse. Really. And I think this is the same thing why Trump got in. People are sick of politicians. They never fall through on what they're going to do. So I think they're like, let's mix it up, get Trump in there who doesn't have a background in this shit. Let's see how it goes. Now, whatever you say about that, I'm just saying, I think that's a big reason why he won. I think Spencer Pratt's pretty similar. We're like, all right, Bass isn't working. Newsome's a complete piece of shit, even though he's the governor. Why not give this guy a chance who's a man of the people? Now, Trump really isn't a man of the people, but Spencer Pratt is.

Speaker 3:
[47:57] No, but Trump, I just finished reading Andrew Jackson's official biography, and I realized he was genuinely the first Trump, because there's a weird, peculiar kind of detachment that President Trump has, but he's obsessive about effectiveness.

Speaker 5:
[48:16] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[48:17] People will say, yeah, but what about the people who are gonna say, yeah, but will it work?

Speaker 5:
[48:21] Yep.

Speaker 3:
[48:21] Then do it.

Speaker 5:
[48:22] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[48:22] I mean, I'm sure you're familiar with the story about the Ibogaine with Joe Rogan. Like, that's insane that he's like, it's done a day later. And it's like FDA approved. And Rogan's like, what?

Speaker 5:
[48:34] I know.

Speaker 3:
[48:35] It's just all Trump does. And I think that this has been kind of the connection to the success of the right wing in the last couple years is that they double down on, well, what's gonna work? Let's just try to do things that we can safely say this is going to be effective. And the left is still stuck in what's going to be humane.

Speaker 5:
[48:54] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[48:55] And if you give it's terrible to say, but if you give the general public, the American public, the option of this kind of this triple-beam scale of effectiveness and vaguely humane, they're gonna side with effectiveness after a long enough time.

Speaker 5:
[49:11] With Joe too, it's like, people that are upset that Joe got, like this probably doesn't get past if Joe didn't get in his ear about it. So the fact with your left or right, none of this matters. If it's saving veterans for what is it, 22 a day commit suicide, it's like, if this helps one of them a day, this is a home run. So the problem is with social media, everyone gets polarized and it's my team and my team. But remember, we're all on the same team.

Speaker 3:
[49:46] We should be.

Speaker 5:
[49:46] With your left or right, we should all be on the same team. But people get so polarized to the social media that even with Rogan, oh fucking Trump and you know, he's Trump's monkey, it's like, well, hold on, hold on. We're saving lives. We all agree whether you're left, right, middle, liberal, whatever the fuck, that's a good thing, right? Yes. Okay. Then pick something else to be, the war is cool. Let's ride on that. But when it comes to Rogan influencing Trump to pass this law that helps save veterans who fucking keep you free, how that's even a thing is to me, I go, oh God, oh my God. We've lost our way. We've lost our way.

Speaker 3:
[50:24] That's a good point.

Speaker 5:
[50:27] My other thing too is with the White House. I said this on the Schaub show. Is the reason why the UFC is having a fight at the White House because of the relationship between Dane and Trump? Sure. Sure. As a fan who's been around the UFC for fucking ever, and a UFC alumni, and you cut my fucking veins and Bob O'Reilly comes out. I live and die for the UFC. Do you remember, you will, I guarantee you, we've talked about this the other day, in text. You remember when Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonham were fighting and the masses were texting their buddies? That was on Spike.

Speaker 3:
[51:05] Joe will tell that story.

Speaker 5:
[51:06] Do you remember how big of a deal that was for people that love MMA? You know that? Now, if I told you, if I told you a week after that happened, I'm like, hey, buddy, you know, eventually we're going to put one of these fucking cages at the lawn at the White House. You'd go, you're fucking crazy.

Speaker 3:
[51:26] Shut up. Okay, now you're getting out of control. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5:
[51:28] Now, this is my thing. Whether you hate Trump, whether you hate Dana, whether you're left, right, liberal, don't give a fuck. All you need to know is the UFC has pulled it off. They're throwing a fucking human cockfight at the lawn of the White House. We've won. The UFC won, dude. If you're an MMA fan, I'm going to give a you like KSW, Cage Warriors, Ryzen, Bellator, PFL. For the sport of MMA, there's not a bigger sign that your sport has made it. Yeah, but I voted for Kamala. Don't give a. I don't give a. Even if it was Biden, Kamala, if Newsome's in the White House and someone came to me and go, hey, you know there's a UFC fight at the White House this weekend? I go, fuck yeah. I wouldn't be like, well, I voted the other way. I'm going to go ahead and pass on this one. It's like, oh, dude, you've been compromised. They've won because now your favorite sport in the world, you're show upset that the UFC aligns with Trump, that you're going to miss this huge opportunity for you. For you because the Trump, the White House, the UFC keeps going.

Speaker 3:
[52:34] It's totally true. That example is a perfect one. Then the drug addiction where I was like, you're talking about mental health and addiction. You can't, it's really grossly irresponsible in this country to introduce your political feelings. Because that is the worst problem we have is mental health and addiction. By far, it doesn't matter if you're the far left woke, the most extreme liberal, if you're a fucking MAGA guy. That should be all hands on deck.

Speaker 5:
[53:06] Because addiction doesn't care if you voted left, right, liberal. Bernie, you're missing the point.

Speaker 3:
[53:13] I love that. I love that aspect of it. Not only addiction, but recovery itself is like, I've shared rooms with insanely famous celebrities that people bow down and throw rose petals at their feet. I've been in there with plenty of homeless people, gangbangers, dudes who spent most of their life in jail, law enforcement, military, big hippies. It doesn't discriminate. They don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5:
[53:41] They don't care who you voted for.

Speaker 3:
[53:42] The color of your skin, your religion, how much money you make, none of that matters. It goes the opposite direction too. If your kid has a problem, he's going to die unless you get him help, regardless of who you voted for. 100 percent. People need to get past that.

Speaker 5:
[53:59] Because we're on these teams and the system has won. That's what they want. They want to divide it. And if you're, again, it's a small example because there's much bigger issues, but if you're going to skip the UFC White House card because you are anti-Trump, you're missing the point. You're missing the fucking point. But then there's people that don't talk to their parents because they're left or right. It's like, do you know how... Hold on. The woman that gave life to you, because she voted for Kamala Harris, you decided not to talk to anymore? I hate to tell you, Bubba, no matter who the fuck's in there, it's going to be a shit show. You've lost your way, man. You've lost your way.

Speaker 3:
[54:43] Anybody who would genuinely want to be president wouldn't want to do it.

Speaker 5:
[54:47] No.

Speaker 3:
[54:47] Anybody who's wildly mature, emotionally intelligent and smart, they'd be like, well, fuck that. No, that sounds insane.

Speaker 5:
[54:54] That's insane. You don't have your shit together run for politics, dude. It's not good.

Speaker 3:
[55:01] That concerns me the most, too. I have many, many close friends, not many, four, I can think of off the top of my head. Some of them, like celebrities, used to come on Loveline pretty frequently that are politically active. And then my friends, close friends, who took a step back in the private sector because they wanted to get into politics to make a difference. And every one of them, whether they're extreme, like the entertainment industry people I know, that they're extremely liberal, or they're extreme, like pictures of Reagan on their wall, like Wally George, they all say the same thing. They're like, oh, there's no hope. If you really want to do good, there's no hope. It's not for you. This is how you do it.

Speaker 4:
[55:41] What do you mean, this is how you do it?

Speaker 5:
[55:43] Wait, what? Yeah, the system's so compromised, it's so dirty. It's like you, and even if you want to get on your podcast or social media and rant and rave, you're not going to do shit, dude. It's just, it's not going to get it done. You're barking into the ether. It's not, you're focused on the wrong thing, man. And like, I'll see, especially some of these baseball dads, where I'll go, man, do you see, you see, they always ask me about Rogan. I go, do you see him at the White House? And they'll be like, no, what happened? Like, they're not, they're busy, they're construction workers, they're blue collar. No, what the, no, what happened?

Speaker 3:
[56:20] A lot of times, especially nowadays with social media being what it is, you see these people who are very vocal, and by the way, this isn't a partisan statement, it goes in both directions. The people who are so adamant and vocal and putting up 55 posts on their Facebook page or their TikTok, and then you see these people getting assaulted at college campuses, it's like 19 year old kids or people with no life. Because people typically would like their own children or like jobs and life, you kind of can only get caught up in so much shit because...

Speaker 5:
[56:54] The problem is the monetization of it. So, you know, on TikTok or if you're on YouTube and you're getting that dopamine release where you're getting all these views and interactions, not only that, which is gonna make you down, just be more down and do more content, but then you're also making money off of it, that's getting attention too.

Speaker 3:
[57:15] Attention.

Speaker 5:
[57:16] That's the problem. So, hold on, like, and I get it. I'm not blaming these people. These people that do that stuff, I agree. You know, they're giving these hot takes and they're fucking posting nine times a day and it's you Trump this or Kamala that and all that. I get it, but it's also, that's how they're making money. That's how they're staying relevant. And it's like, we've created this monster. And then people are like, God, I can't believe someone would do that. They need to get a life. It's like, man, the system kind of set them up where they can make more money doing this than working their ass off at a construction site. It's not good.

Speaker 3:
[57:47] Just like with the not going to parties and the college kids, all I ever did good in life was because I was so scared that I'm, I didn't, wasn't scared. I knew I was a fucking loser. And I was so scared that I was gonna continue to be a loser. And I had to do anything to not do that. If I had a fucking phone with the internet and social media and I could make something of myself where people would give me attention and a couple bucks How can you not do it? By going, these woke idiots. And then clip farming and finding other people's clips. And then just sitting in my bedroom and doing that. That's all I, Eric, that's all I would devote my life to is talking shit.

Speaker 5:
[58:25] And that, and that's what's going on with it. And it's like, you know, people do clips and they take things so out of context and all that like horrible shit about me. And people send to me like, man, do you see this? And like, man, you should shut this down. I'm like, I get it. That's how that guy makes money. It's just, he's a, he's just a part of the system that we've created where it's not good.

Speaker 3:
[58:48] And then on top of that, here's a, there's a very, very, very narrow margin up the creme de la creme who are actually really good at it. Who make like shit talking videos, whether it be comics or actors or woke celebrities or politicians. And I was like, bro, I mean, that's almost like artwork.

Speaker 5:
[59:06] Dude, with a lot of them, I'm like, clearly you have skills, Bubba. But if you go to them, you're like, man, just do something positive or give a take on this. Because they clearly know how to edit and put it all together and thumbnails and all this shit. I'm like, man, if you just do this for good. But if you go to them, they're like, if I, if it's something positive, I'm not making money. I make money. It's really good if clicks. I'm like, I get it. That's the game. I get it.

Speaker 3:
[59:28] And it's by the way, because if it's something positive, you don't make money, you don't get attention. Totally true. But I think that that tricks us into thinking, if it's negative, that's more, more representative of how the world is.

Speaker 5:
[59:43] Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3:
[59:44] No. Both mainstream media and social media is driven by negative stories because that's what intrigues us. And I'm guilty of it saying, I love, you know, if I see a video, if there's a video of firefighter saves drowning, dog from drowning, and there's, watch this one punch KO from fuck around and find out, guy gets knocked out. I'm like, almost always I'm leaning towards guy gets knocked out.

Speaker 5:
[60:10] But I think to your point too, it's like if your YouTube algorithm, you know, I watch a lot of baseball shit. So if it says, Otani, greatest player ever, I'm like, yeah, I know most of that shit. And then the next one pops up and Otani, it's him and he has like red eyes and it's like the dark history of Otani why he's a piece of shit. I'm like, I better check that out. And I know it's not, I know it's click baiting, it's propaganda, but I'm like, let's just see what the fuck this is. Cause it's different and it's dark.

Speaker 3:
[60:38] You're totally right. And it's not good. But that tricks us into thinking that that's the way the world is.

Speaker 5:
[60:42] Correct.

Speaker 3:
[60:43] But do this for me, any of you who are watching or listening, like really go back and think of when someone, a stranger was genuinely outwardly mean to you. And unless you're, okay, unless you're living at home, it's happened. But I can think of maybe one hand worth of it. Now, if you really tried to take notice on a day-to-day basis, how many times someone holds a door for you, how many times a random stranger would be like, oh, that's a nice shirt.

Speaker 5:
[61:12] Or let you in when you're kind of hurt.

Speaker 3:
[61:14] Or when someone, everyone has these bad, horrible things in their head, meatheads like us, in the back of the mind of when someone was a fucking asshole at the gym and they took up too much space. But I've lost count of how many times people will be like, would you like to work in? Or let me wipe that down for you or kind of help you with the plates and you're just like, oh, thank you, stranger.

Speaker 5:
[61:34] But to your point, I think that's what's wrong with the younger generations, because when they're coming up and it's so negative, everything's so dark and negative, like, oh, I guess this is the world because they don't have the perspective. They haven't lived and had as many years on the planet as us and gone out in public and all this stuff. So if they're just in their basement or they're talking to their friends online, they're like, man, the world's just negative. It's like, no, buddy, you got to touch grass. Go get off of here. This isn't this is a small sector of what's really going on.

Speaker 3:
[62:01] Kevin from Kevin and being Kevin Rider and I used to do a show called Great News. And it was because we got so upset about the fact that that seemed to drive all forms of news mainstream to social media and we were going to do we're going to do a new show, but only positive stories. And of course, as we mentioned before, doesn't drive a lot of engagement, so it didn't end up being very successful. But at the same time, there was something else that I noticed that if you go online with the intention of searching happy uplifting stories, there was literally too much. If you do the work to get past the what's on the front, I couldn't feasibly narrow down the stories to do one show because I had too many amazing stories. But I got to tell the story about the guy who laid down on a broken bridge to save a senior citizen. No, I got to do the person who walks around for free cleaning up disabled veteran's yards.

Speaker 5:
[62:58] But there's so many people doing it. But I'm a victim of it too. It's like, I don't set the description of the thumbnails like on the Schaub show. We're doing this whole relaunch into the Big Brown breakdown, going back and doing all this extra stuff. And I go through the titles and it's all negative. It's like, the issue with Dana White. Why Rhonda should stop fighting?

Speaker 4:
[63:21] I'm like, the corruption of the UFC.

Speaker 5:
[63:22] Yeah, it's like the UFC has fallen. And I'm like, that wasn't my take.

Speaker 4:
[63:28] That's not what I said.

Speaker 5:
[63:29] Maybe I brought attention to it, but overall the message is how great everything is. And then Nick, he's like, that's your views have never been higher.

Speaker 3:
[63:39] I'm like, I see it in a negative way, too. No, no, no, it's all kind of like, but I get the game. I get the game, but I see like I've seen video as some like a real passionate fan. I see that now with even the most successful kind of content creators. It's like, was Khabib really a fraud? And it'll show him like getting smashed in like a like a like a blurry video of him, like in bottom position. And then I watched a video and I was like, that's not even what this is about at all. Like once you pulled one clip of Chael saying, well if there's any flaw in his game, it's his takedown defense, not against the cage or so. And that's what they built this, he's a fraud. It's like, wait a second.

Speaker 5:
[64:20] But as soon as you click that, they've won.

Speaker 3:
[64:22] Yeah, they win.

Speaker 5:
[64:22] That's all because if they're like, well, you know, even in all the videos, when it goes to like, it's like why John Jones is the biggest cheat of all time. You click on it and like the first 30 seconds is the guys like, well, it's not that. And they don't have examples, but you clicked on it, they got paid. So they're based like, gotcha. It's a snake oil.

Speaker 3:
[64:43] There's a dark metal group named Cradle of Filth, and they're successful in that genre. They're not the Foo Fighters obviously, but Cradle of Filth is like a successful band.

Speaker 5:
[64:51] I've heard of them.

Speaker 3:
[64:52] And they used to have a shirt that said, Jesus is a cunt, because the death metal grindcore world, they all do the extreme logos and extreme. And I heard the lead singer talk about it. He's like, I know that that's probably the most offensive. He's like, but I was going for that. He's like, if I get you to even take click on that and notice it and have a new story, and then that new story feeds to someone, and then someone goes out and buys that shirt because of it, because they were never fucking aware of it, but because Bill O'Reilly talked about it on Bill O'Reilly show tonight, he's like, I win.

Speaker 5:
[65:23] And our people find it.

Speaker 3:
[65:24] I was like, dude, you're ahead of the game. This is like 1998 or some shit, you know?

Speaker 5:
[65:26] Well, it's like MC Hammer, you know, he got so famous last, he also had a lot of haters. He said the number one selling shirt he had his entire time touring, they didn't know it, but he created shirts that said MC Hammer sucks. He was my number one selling shirt.

Speaker 3:
[65:41] By the way-

Speaker 5:
[65:41] He goes, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3:
[65:42] MC Hammer, very nice man. By the way, do you know why you got his name? You're a sports fan. MC Hammer was-

Speaker 5:
[65:50] He was a ball boy for the Oakland A's.

Speaker 3:
[65:51] He was a bad boy for the Oakland A's, and he looked so much like Hammer and Hank Aaron, that they just started calling him Hammer. That is true. You can see that too, by the way. But he stole that from Primus. Primus has been doing Primus Sucks since 1989.

Speaker 5:
[66:04] Really?

Speaker 3:
[66:04] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[66:05] Still.

Speaker 3:
[66:06] Good move.

Speaker 5:
[66:07] I just don't have that image. People have over the Reddit making a Schaub Sucks shirt. I'm like, would I like the extra money? Sure. That's just not what I do. I don't want to contribute to that, man.

Speaker 3:
[66:19] I agree. It gets really bad to when I see content. Now, I will take a partisan sign on this because I remember when Bill Clinton had a heart attack, a pretty serious one, and it was right after he was not in office. I think it was like 2001 or so. And Rush Limbaugh stopped what he was doing and flew to his bedside. And he's like, listen, I made a career out of talking shit. And he was like, but this has crossed the line. He'd be the president, he'd make sure. Sent flowers to Hillary, the whole thing.

Speaker 5:
[66:57] But also, he made his money off that. And also, he should be grateful to Bill too, like, thank you.

Speaker 3:
[67:03] I have seen a handful of extreme shit posters who are doing the Rob Reiner shouldn't talk shit about President Trump, he deserved it kind of thing. I'm like, whoa, what do we do? But I've seen thousands of videos of people making fun of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5:
[67:21] And I'm like, you can compromise. Oh, you lost your-

Speaker 3:
[67:25] Feel free to have your feelings about policy, but what are we doing?

Speaker 5:
[67:28] You've lost.

Speaker 3:
[67:28] What are you doing?

Speaker 5:
[67:29] Yeah, you've lost the game. You know, if there's a thing like, you're out, that's you. If you're celebrated as death of a father, no matter what-

Speaker 3:
[67:40] And by the way, he's not Osama Bin Laden. He had opinions you didn't like. I get that.

Speaker 5:
[67:45] Sure.

Speaker 3:
[67:46] But what are you doing?

Speaker 5:
[67:47] Death?

Speaker 3:
[67:49] In public, like crazy, vogue, horrible assassinations.

Speaker 5:
[67:52] Anyone who's like, man, glad that happened, it's like, oh, you've lost your way. And anybody doing that or celebrating that, it's like nobody I know who's worth shit talks like that. And I know people that didn't like Charlie Kirk at all. I listen to the show. I like Charlie. But it's like anybody that's up at that, most of the time they're unhappy in their own shit. They're just, you've lost it, man. And that's the biggest red flag to me. Whenever anybody celebrates anything, like let's say you have this TV show and for a reason they get picked up and somebody goes, fuck yeah, glad that thing didn't get picked up. It's like, you've lost it. You've lost it. You've lost your way. There's no way you're doing good in life.

Speaker 3:
[68:33] I think people transitioned from like how they feel about Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. And like I said, like off the ran of like Osama bin Laden or something, like now they're doing that for people that they're just not that into.

Speaker 5:
[68:45] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[68:46] Like, I don't like his music. I was like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 5:
[68:49] When people were like Taylor Swift sucks. Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 3:
[68:53] Sure.

Speaker 5:
[68:54] You know that you don't have to play her music on Apple, right? I could understand if it was a law, we have to listen to Taylor Swift, then man, there's going to be some backlash. When you have the freedom to literally choose what the fuck you want us to do, but you decide to just make comments about this, whatever is podcast or comedian, you don't have to listen to it. No one's forcing you.

Speaker 3:
[69:18] That's another thing, too, is that people have lost society and this is, I do think this is not their fault. I think this is the kind of the modern trend of media. People have lost the ability to kind of stay on topic. And what I mean by that is like I was talking to a look, I'll show you that this isn't a partisan thing. I was talking to a friend of mine at Jiu Jitsu who's very right wing and he's kind of a well-known, not Tim, he's kind of a well-known personality. So I remember many names and he was like talking about Kamala Harris and we were talking about the failure of her campaign. I was on board, I'm listening, interesting and he's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, ugly woman or ugly bitch. I was like, bumpy brakes. He's like, she's pretty attractive. Yeah. I was like, she's actually a pretty beautiful.

Speaker 5:
[70:04] Top 10 of all time.

Speaker 3:
[70:05] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[70:05] She's a moron.

Speaker 3:
[70:06] She would be the best looking president ever if she had won. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[70:09] Not even remotely close.

Speaker 3:
[70:12] And I actually made a clip about this one. Don Lemon talking shit about Megyn Kelly. I go, okay, you're a news broadcaster. You don't like Megyn Kelly. Talk shit. And then he goes, yeah, she's chopped. Because it was like young hip interviewers. They were young, like college age. And they're like, do you think Megyn Kelly's chopped? We think she's chopped. And he's like, what does that mean? They're like ugly. But she's like, oh, yeah, she's super chopped.

Speaker 5:
[70:35] He's a gay man.

Speaker 3:
[70:36] Pump the brakes. If you disagree with her or you don't think she's good at her job, I'll listen to you. Megyn Kelly's a lot of things.

Speaker 5:
[70:44] Gorgeous.

Speaker 3:
[70:44] She's so fucking hot in person. Like you're uncomfortable.

Speaker 5:
[70:48] She's stunning.

Speaker 3:
[70:49] Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:
[70:50] That'd be the worst take you can do.

Speaker 5:
[70:52] Like you can beat her up on some of her politics of it. That's fine. But when you start going for looks, like, oh, buddy. But again, you've lost your way. You've lost your way. You've lost your way.

Speaker 9:
[71:02] That's not real.

Speaker 5:
[71:03] Kamala Harris, I think she's... I mean, her campaign should be studied on what not to do.

Speaker 3:
[71:10] I agree.

Speaker 5:
[71:11] As far as physical attractiveness, as soon as you go, oh, she's this ugly, you're out.

Speaker 3:
[71:16] No need to...

Speaker 5:
[71:17] I'm not even going to talk with you. You've lost it. You've lost the narrative.

Speaker 3:
[71:20] I saw it in the opposite direction of where these college girls... Now, granted, maybe they were motivated by other things, and I'm trying to be nice about it, but they were talking about how Michelle Obama is this elegant, amazing queen, and that Melania could learn things because she's... And I was like, okay, listen, Michelle Obama is quite smart, and I have nothing negative to say, but if we're going to talk looks...

Speaker 4:
[71:50] Oh, buddy. What are we doing here? Like, why are we...

Speaker 5:
[71:56] But it's so crazy.

Speaker 3:
[71:57] You just can't stay on top of it.

Speaker 5:
[71:58] You can't have that...

Speaker 4:
[72:00] Oh, wow.

Speaker 5:
[72:00] I can't talk to you.

Speaker 3:
[72:01] Oh, wow. It's like we're playing Street Fighter II, and I fucked you up. I'm crushing you. I'm doing like quadruple all you kids. And I was like, this is like how I'd fuck you up in the ring. Like, why do we have... Like, why are you extrapolating to stuff that this doesn't apply, and that's not true. Like, I understand. Michelle Obama was much more charismatic and intelligent than Melania Alcid, and she's more beautiful.

Speaker 4:
[72:26] And you're like, this is where I get off the bus.

Speaker 5:
[72:30] This is where I get off the crazy bus.

Speaker 3:
[72:31] But it destroys everything else you just said, which might have been true.

Speaker 5:
[72:34] I know. You're fucked up.

Speaker 8:
[72:35] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[72:36] You're fucked up. What do you got, Chinster?

Speaker 8:
[72:39] All right. The first one is this marathon thing with Nike.

Speaker 5:
[72:45] Oh, Nike.

Speaker 8:
[72:47] So this is what they put on their slogan for the marathon. Runners welcome, walkers tolerated.

Speaker 3:
[72:54] What is bad about that?

Speaker 8:
[72:57] People are upset about it saying it.

Speaker 5:
[72:59] So remember, like Nike, when they came out the gate, go to Nike's old running marketing. So this is very Nike, how they came out where it's like, runners welcome, walkers tolerated. It's the Boston Marathon.

Speaker 4:
[73:14] The Super Bowl of Marathons.

Speaker 8:
[73:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[73:16] The Boston is the, that's what Marathon runners compete to be.

Speaker 5:
[73:20] The people who join it just to walk are like, man, this is discrimination against walkers. You make your money.

Speaker 3:
[73:25] off.

Speaker 5:
[73:26] So Nike took it down. So if you notice this, so Nike's not doing well. They're not doing well. Their stock's low because Nike decide to side with kind of this woke agenda shit and go that direction. And so they changed it. Boston will always remind you, moving is what matters. Like, whoa, what happened to just do it? Like, they used to be pretty hardcore in that sense. And then also kids are, our business has changed, we're on offense all the time. You can go to some of their old stuff. There's a ton of examples.

Speaker 3:
[73:59] Nike being, you know, in the early, by the way, the whole brand of Nike founded on running. So it's not like they don't have a stake in this. They were built on track running and distance running. And they were known, you remember when we were little kids, they were the edgy, aggressive in your face, like the spiky Michael Jordan aspect of Just Do. That's what Just Do was. And we're not going to talk a lot. It's like, go, go hard or go home. That was there. And I feel like it's almost insulting that they would allow their company to kind of take, because walking tolerated.

Speaker 5:
[74:42] It's a race.

Speaker 3:
[74:44] It's talking shit on people who are showing up to a race to go slow. It's not talking shit about people who enjoy walking.

Speaker 5:
[74:51] No.

Speaker 3:
[74:51] Do you understand that? This is getting out of fucking control.

Speaker 5:
[74:55] It's just softening society. As long as you finish, no, bitch. This is one of the biggest marathons in the world. And the guy that's finishing, what the fuck, that's pace shaming.

Speaker 3:
[75:10] If you and I went to gaming with their team, by the way, Austin area is very well known for like endurance sports. There's probably people that I think Lance Armstrong led to that. But there's a lot of people training in biking, biking rowing and running out by Zilker Park probably. And you and I were like, hey, guys, let's, let's go. And they were a really competitive running team. And within 400 yards, we're pulling behind them. I would hope they'd be like, what the fuck with you meathead? I know, slow ass fox.

Speaker 5:
[75:38] I would hope. But the thing is, but then Nike, they blame, they've done this more, they've gotten more woke than anyone and they're an athletic brand. Athletes in general, I hate to tell you guys, your favorite football player, baseball player, UFC athlete tend to lean more towards the right. It's just what, it just makes sense. So Nike went away from that. So you have less guys signing with Nike. You have more competition in the space with New Balance and all these other brands. And then Nike, because of their lower stock and all this shit, they blame it on basketball. Like, well, basketball doesn't have the same stars. That's why we're not selling as many shoes. It's like, no, there's more competition in the market. And these other brands aren't bending the knee to the woke mob, who A, isn't buying your shoes anyways. Because most of the, you ever seen a woke person in shape? Very rare. So it's like, the people that you're satisfying by taking this down aren't even buying your fucking product. All you're doing is pissing off the masses that actually buy fucking shoes. Now they're sure as fuck not buying them.

Speaker 3:
[76:40] I will say though, basketball does drive sneaker culture. Basketball, 100%.

Speaker 5:
[76:45] And the NBA, not lately.

Speaker 3:
[76:47] The NBA, no, not lately. But because I don't think it's not because of like, Nike not making good sneakers or this or that.

Speaker 5:
[76:54] No.

Speaker 3:
[76:54] I think it's because basketball as a whole has lost its understanding of how to connect with the fans. So some, who was it? God damn it. It may have been Gilbert Arenas again, but I saw another one of these clips where they said, what's, what do you talk about? Like Jordan used to talk about how he loved Magic, but he's like, I don't want to be on Magic's team.

Speaker 5:
[77:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[77:16] I want to compete against him.

Speaker 5:
[77:16] Correct.

Speaker 3:
[77:17] Cause I like seeing the best.

Speaker 5:
[77:18] I'm not going to go join Magic. I'm going to beat Magic.

Speaker 3:
[77:21] Bird used to talk to him. He's like, I love Urban Magic Johnson. I love him. He's a great man. I want to beat his ass. I don't want to be on his team.

Speaker 5:
[77:28] These super teams change the culture.

Speaker 3:
[77:30] They've turned it into like being on the Avengers, where it's like, let's get Thor and let's get the shit out of him.

Speaker 5:
[77:35] Like it's the rec league.

Speaker 3:
[77:36] And there was something to being a kid and watch, it's watching Bill Lambeer and Isaiah Thomas come in and watching those Knicks team and certainly the Celtics. You would see, I'm not talking about like, they'll bring in a goon off the bench. Fucking Michael Cooper, Magic Johnson, James Worthy, would get in a fucking fist fight with Larry Bird and Robert Parrish, and they're boys, and everyone's going crazy. Like the crowd was, and there's a clip of Kobe hitting a game winning shot and he pulls his jersey like this and he points to it. And after the game in the press conference, he was like, it's all about, he's like, I'm in charge out there, but it's about the Lakers. I'm in charge because I want the Lakers. This is the front of my jersey, not the back. And I just think that that's, can we realistically, I'm a diehard Laker fan, but can we realistically be like, LeBron bleeds gold and purple. No, LeBron bleeds LeBron.

Speaker 5:
[78:34] Yeah, LeBron. Yeah, as long as LeBron gets 50, he's good.

Speaker 3:
[78:38] Michael Jordan might assassinate someone if they got in the way of the Bulls win. Like he might kill a person.

Speaker 5:
[78:46] But it's just, I think it's the changing of the culture where it's like, including pro sports, where it's like that one on one, that the dog, that competition, people are kind of shying away from like, as long as he's participating, it's like, no, bitch, no, no, no, we're here to win, man. But it starts in the youth sports. Like I see it all the time.

Speaker 3:
[79:06] That's why baseball has increased, by the way. Clearly, global, Otani and other Asian countries, Korean and Japanese players.

Speaker 5:
[79:13] Baseball is rocking right now.

Speaker 3:
[79:15] Another reason why baseball has gone is that, believe you me, if you hide the microphones and go in the Dodger locker room and talk about the Padres or the Giants, like they'll be like, fuck those guys. And they might do some chin music and it might come inside. They might plug a guy.

Speaker 4:
[79:30] You see the fight like two weeks ago?

Speaker 5:
[79:32] What was it? Angels in, I forget who it was.

Speaker 3:
[79:36] Washington. Yes. No, Cleveland. Cleveland. The Indians.

Speaker 5:
[79:40] Well, it's the Indians to us. I refuse to call them the Guardians. Nope.

Speaker 3:
[79:43] By the way, because they had the sickest fucking logos.

Speaker 5:
[79:46] The best. I still have two other brands.

Speaker 3:
[79:48] Like the Cleveland Indians was sick. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[79:50] The best.

Speaker 3:
[79:51] But that was a thing. The 70s and 80s, like the teams mattered. And Dodger fans fucking hated the Giants. Like it was a legitimate Giants project. But the Dodger players hated the. And now it's like, wow, I might get traded next year.

Speaker 5:
[80:10] Did you see rushing for the Dodgers last night?

Speaker 3:
[80:12] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[80:13] Yeah. Well, so Russian.

Speaker 3:
[80:15] I saw, I saw him break down.

Speaker 5:
[80:17] So Russian's balling.

Speaker 3:
[80:19] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[80:19] So he's the backup to Will Smith, who happens to be probably the best catcher in the league.

Speaker 3:
[80:23] So offensively for sure.

Speaker 5:
[80:24] Rushing's a beast. If I'm rushing, I think his salary, he's making like 750 grand a year. He's on a low salary. He could be a starter anywhere else and be a superstar. So they got to figure that out. He's such a good player. If you really go down the rabbit hole, look at that motherfucker lifting in college. You're like, holy shit, he's one of my faves. But last night, they lost three to one. Yoshi, the first ending, gave up three runs.

Speaker 4:
[80:47] Unheard of.

Speaker 5:
[80:48] I was thinking to my brother, I'm like, is it upside down day?

Speaker 4:
[80:51] What the is going on?

Speaker 5:
[80:53] They lit him up. I'm like, what the fuck? Then he shuts it down, right? But one of the, and this is why I'm like, yes and no, like me and my son were watching the game, I'm like, yes and no. Like you need some of that dog in you. Russians are young, full of fucking vinegar player, balling right now. One of the guys slides in and gets hurt. And I think Russian tagged him out. And he walks out and he looks back and the guy's like, hold his knee, he goes, fuck them. And walks the dugout. Now, now that's warsmanship. Sure. Was that meant to be hurt for everyone? No, but if you want that motherfucker on your team is my point. And by the way, I told my son, he's like, dad, what did he say? I go, he said, fuck them. Because they're in the middle of a game, dude. And by the way, it's fuck all of them, Bubba.

Speaker 3:
[81:38] Let me make this very clear. He didn't slide into second cleats up and take a guy out.

Speaker 5:
[81:43] No.

Speaker 3:
[81:43] And then he's like, fuck them. I mean, all right, what are you, a Bond villain? The guy slid fucked up and he was just trying to make it and hurt himself.

Speaker 5:
[81:50] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[81:51] He's not on my team. Fuck him.

Speaker 5:
[81:52] Yeah, he went.

Speaker 4:
[81:52] I go, yeah, good for you.

Speaker 7:
[81:53] You see him walking back to the dodger dugout.

Speaker 5:
[81:55] You see him, fuck him.

Speaker 3:
[81:57] I'm like, yeah, him.

Speaker 4:
[81:59] He's like, him.

Speaker 10:
[82:00] He gives me chills.

Speaker 5:
[82:01] I'm like, yeah, his ass.

Speaker 3:
[82:03] I agree. There was a thing about that. I was really lucky where, especially at the time, like Love Line in Southern California, I got to do things way outside of my celeb level grade. One of the things I got to do was I got to play in the Dodger slash Angels celebrity games.

Speaker 4:
[82:19] What a dream.

Speaker 5:
[82:21] I do.

Speaker 3:
[82:22] It's awesome.

Speaker 5:
[82:23] That's the only good thing about fame. I hope someone reaches out and like, hey man, you want to play in this baseball all-star game? Not at the MLB level, but just whatever it is. The Savannah Bananas, where the fuck it is?

Speaker 3:
[82:34] I have two.

Speaker 5:
[82:35] So I can bring my kids.

Speaker 3:
[82:36] I have two games in particular at Dodger Stadium that I could tell you, and we could do a whole episode about the stories. Michael Clarke Duncan, who God rest his soul. He's a really nice guy, but he's fucking huge. And he's not huge and gawky. He has great posture. He looks like this amazing, like a linebacker from a comic book. He never played. He was the worst baseball player I've ever seen. He literally couldn't throw, couldn't put his mitt on.

Speaker 4:
[82:58] I was like, that's baseball, Bubba.

Speaker 3:
[82:59] There was a Spanish, untouchably hot female Spanish, like telenovela soap opera. Yeah. Spanish, the hottest. She was a star there. And like, of course, all the dudes in Dodger Stadium are like going crazy.

Speaker 5:
[83:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[83:15] And she's wearing like a teeny little skirt with a Dodger jersey. She hits the ball and runs to third base.

Speaker 4:
[83:25] And I'm like, skips first and second.

Speaker 5:
[83:27] Just no, like it's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[83:28] Instead of going to like, it's crazy.

Speaker 5:
[83:30] Kickball goes the third.

Speaker 3:
[83:31] And I and Kevin from Kevin to be in our standing there. I was like, you would think, by the way, she's not from fucking Zimbabwe. Like you would think in Mexico, she's at least seen baseball enough to know that.

Speaker 5:
[83:43] But also see the people in front of her.

Speaker 10:
[83:45] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[83:45] Was she batting first?

Speaker 3:
[83:46] And everyone was laughing.

Speaker 5:
[83:48] She was like, eight.

Speaker 1:
[83:48] No, no, she was like the batting.

Speaker 10:
[83:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[83:50] But she was so fucking hot that no one, no one was like.

Speaker 10:
[83:53] No such thing.

Speaker 3:
[83:54] Safe. All the Dodger players and everything were like, oh, we go this way. But there was another.

Speaker 5:
[84:00] Oh dude, I meant to take you if I forget. This popped up on algorithm. You know, there's leagues in Austin, like big time leagues that have the backings of like big companies. Like I want to say like Yetis behind it, like the big vodka companies out there, they have leagues with dope jerseys and they get together on Sundays in a competitive.

Speaker 3:
[84:21] Baseball?

Speaker 5:
[84:22] Baseball.

Speaker 3:
[84:22] Oh, it's on.

Speaker 5:
[84:24] I'll send you the thing. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. You and I get out there, Bubba?

Speaker 3:
[84:27] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[84:28] Whenever you go. Yeah. And I saw the thing that got me is they're showing the fields. It looks like Sandlot, but for adults. And then there's kids playing. And then the families are in the back and they have sewn in jerseys. And it's like proper downtown Austin. I'm like, holy.

Speaker 10:
[84:43] I'm in.

Speaker 3:
[84:44] I'm so in.

Speaker 5:
[84:44] Right?

Speaker 10:
[84:45] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[84:45] The thing that got me in was the jerseys. I'm like, sewn in jerseys?

Speaker 3:
[84:49] Dude, you're such a hype beast. The thing that got you in was the fucking jerseys.

Speaker 10:
[84:53] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[84:53] Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:
[84:53] Oh, I don't fit perfectly on the lower. Some nice jeans.

Speaker 5:
[84:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[84:57] Awesome. I'm in.

Speaker 5:
[84:58] Yeah, right. Look, look it up. Look it up, dude. It's mind blowing.

Speaker 3:
[85:02] Yeah, for sure. Well, I'm in like I know we could chin come out and get some video. Yeah, I'll throw some sweet chin music out.

Speaker 5:
[85:08] I'm coming in like fucking Miller from the Padres fucking corn.

Speaker 9:
[85:11] Are you Ray?

Speaker 5:
[85:13] Have you seen his walkout? I'm not Padres fan Dodgers.

Speaker 3:
[85:16] What that homies got the got mother from Danzig. It's also, but yeah, I mean, oh, that's good. Yeah, blind from corn is buddy because the stadium I dude I was and how dominant here I've been at fucking bananas concert. I've been to a countless layers slipknot. I saw Dillinger escape plan. There's a video of Dillinger escape plan and playing it Virgin Atlantic records somewhere in the Eastern Seaboard, and I went to see them the night after at this small club, and I saw dudes getting their heads broken. I've been to wild shows corn hitting blind at Woodstock 99. I don't know if I already that looks AI and it's not that shit but it is awesome.

Speaker 5:
[85:56] Boom, boom, boom, and the cuddle, the chain.

Speaker 3:
[85:59] It is so, like it gives me goose bumps, like whoa.

Speaker 5:
[86:02] Bring up Miller walking out to corn for the Padres. Dude, I mean Diaz for the Dodgers when he walks out, he's hurt so he hasn't been blowing the doors off anybody, but Miller is, dude, I don't think he's given up a run in 50 games.

Speaker 3:
[86:20] No, this guy's pretty good.

Speaker 5:
[86:21] Mason Miller is, you know he played Division III baseball, didn't get recruited, nothing, dude. His story's fucking bananas, dude. And also, I know, maybe it's for the patronage and I don't know, play that and you tell me you don't fucking, this is why baseball's so fucking-

Speaker 3:
[86:40] It's winning.

Speaker 5:
[86:41] Winning, dude.

Speaker 3:
[86:42] The performative aspects.

Speaker 5:
[86:44] Dodgers, love the fucking Dodgers. There's not a better moment in sports when this motherfucker walks out. Do-noo, do-noo. Can you imagine him?

Speaker 3:
[86:52] Gagne at his peak with Welcome to the Jungle.

Speaker 10:
[86:54] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[86:54] Especially when Gagne with I got you with Cy Young as a remember.

Speaker 10:
[86:57] Yeah, true.

Speaker 3:
[86:59] And the crowd goes, oh!

Speaker 8:
[87:00] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[87:01] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[87:02] Is this it or no?

Speaker 5:
[87:03] Yeah, this is it. Rewind it. Rewind it, dude. Look at him warming up. Imagine him.

Speaker 1:
[87:09] Imagine him.

Speaker 3:
[87:10] He's ready to run through a wall.

Speaker 5:
[87:12] Bro, I'm ready to run through a fucking wall. Play this, Tim.

Speaker 11:
[87:15] You know what time it is? It's time for Basian Miller.

Speaker 3:
[87:25] The crowd goes, it goes to dark? Oh, look at the crowd.

Speaker 5:
[87:28] Watch. Back to dark, look at all the cameras. Not just the batter.

Speaker 4:
[87:46] You're like, what the?

Speaker 5:
[87:49] He doesn't give up a fucking hit, mother.

Speaker 3:
[87:53] He deals. Look at how tall he is, dude.

Speaker 5:
[87:57] Division III player. Dude.

Speaker 3:
[88:02] That's how weird baseball is, too, though. Bro.

Speaker 5:
[88:06] Nothing in sports. Well, buddy. But this is why baseball is killing it. Because baseball has always been like they have the unspoken rules. It's a little slower. So now they have the pitch clock, right? To speed things up, which is great. But this is what, if you're a young kid, like my son's a pitcher, I'm like, buddy, watch. Look at this. When he comes out, WWE has a walkout song, buddy. It's so dope.

Speaker 3:
[88:37] What was your walkout song? Did you have one?

Speaker 5:
[88:38] Square Dance by Eminem.

Speaker 3:
[88:40] Sick. All right.

Speaker 5:
[88:41] Boom, boom, boom. And I play for my son as we're driving. It's his favorite song, right? Because he knows I walked out to it. But before we got out of the car, I crank as loud as I can. And if I know he's starting pitcher, put that on, people feel so good to be back. That shit is fucking spicy, bro.

Speaker 8:
[88:59] Is it on YouTube at all?

Speaker 5:
[88:59] No, I have no clue.

Speaker 8:
[89:02] I don't know, man.

Speaker 3:
[89:03] Do you know the Roy MacDonald walkout music song? Their story?

Speaker 5:
[89:08] His walkout song, I'm trying to think what Roy walked out to.

Speaker 3:
[89:12] It's one of those stories where you go like, oh, we're living in a city, this isn't real.

Speaker 5:
[89:15] Uh-huh, what?

Speaker 3:
[89:16] So Roy MacDonald changed his phone. He got it.

Speaker 5:
[89:19] Oh, that's right. And the fan was communicating.

Speaker 3:
[89:21] And some guy who is awesome, by the way, and he needs to come out and take credit because he's the best. They get whatever, who's ever in charge of marketing for the UFC and be like, and what's your walkout song?

Speaker 5:
[89:31] That's actually the week of the fight.

Speaker 3:
[89:32] And the guy, instead of going like, I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about, he's like, it's fucking Cotton Eye Joe. And then the next one, it's like, I actually, I want to do Macarena. And took Roy MacDonald like four fights to finally, he's like, what the fuck? It was like, what is this?

Speaker 4:
[89:47] Why?

Speaker 5:
[89:47] Dude, did you ever see Mike Perry? He wanted to come out to the Halo song from the video game.

Speaker 3:
[89:52] And it was the Halo.

Speaker 4:
[89:53] It was Beyonce.

Speaker 1:
[89:53] It was Beyonce, Halo.

Speaker 5:
[89:55] What the fuck is, fuck it. Just start singing with it.

Speaker 3:
[89:57] It's perfect because it was Mike Perry, too. He didn't get all upset.

Speaker 4:
[90:00] He's like, oh, whatever. Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 3:
[90:02] I can't believe, unless someone does it, I'm a pretty attentive fan. How does no one use Hell's Bells from ACDC? That's the greatest walkout song.

Speaker 5:
[90:12] Someone has.

Speaker 3:
[90:13] I get pumped in my car. I'm not even walking out anywhere.

Speaker 5:
[90:16] The one group you can't use is Metallica.

Speaker 3:
[90:19] Metallica, yeah. I heard that.

Speaker 5:
[90:20] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[90:21] Haybury, too. Matt, really tough fucking maniac with crazy elbows. Matt, god damn it, retired.

Speaker 8:
[90:31] I know what you're talking about. Damn it. I can't think of his name right now either. Matt the Immortal.

Speaker 5:
[90:35] Oh, Matt Brown.

Speaker 3:
[90:36] Matt Brown, thank you. Matt Brown used to come out and he was like boys with Jamie from Haybury. He used to come out of Haybury and I was like, that's hard to.

Speaker 5:
[90:44] Dude, the lead singer from Tool text me how he got my number. I don't know. He texted me before.

Speaker 3:
[90:50] I'm sure.

Speaker 5:
[90:51] One of my, it was a huge fight. He texted me before and then my buddy who knew him was like, oh dude, you got to come out to the song. I was like, I can't. There's no, it's too much of a-

Speaker 3:
[91:02] Who's the little proggy to do like-

Speaker 5:
[91:04] Yeah. I was like, I love him and he's great, but it'd be tough for a walkout.

Speaker 3:
[91:09] That corn is insane.

Speaker 5:
[91:11] In that walkout. Now we're Dodger fans, so we got to bring up Diaz Dodger's walkout. His is pretty good.

Speaker 3:
[91:17] Mother's solid.

Speaker 5:
[91:20] Diaz comes out to the- It's the-

Speaker 3:
[91:23] Isn't it?

Speaker 5:
[91:24] Trumpets? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[91:25] Oh no, yeah. Edwin Diaz?

Speaker 5:
[91:28] Yep, Edwin. He's hurt, but he'll come back. It's good. It's no Mason Miller. But it's funny.

Speaker 3:
[91:36] But you're also playing to your crowd. There's probably a lot of people.

Speaker 5:
[91:39] But this is MLB. Oh, wait.

Speaker 3:
[91:52] Chin and I are gonna come out to Hammer Smash Base by Cannibal Corpse.

Speaker 5:
[91:56] This is pretty gangster. Where the fuck is the trumpet, Lee? Here it goes. Playing that trumpet through her tits, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3:
[92:15] Titties out by her belly. She's got the D cups on her navel. She had to move titties out of the way just to get the trumpet. Damn, son.

Speaker 5:
[92:25] This is pretty good.

Speaker 3:
[92:26] It is good.

Speaker 5:
[92:26] It's no Mason Miller corn. And I want that for him, but as a Dodgers fan, it's just not as...

Speaker 4:
[92:33] It's a good Dodgers.

Speaker 5:
[92:35] But your point with MLB growing, it's like this is walkout shit that... Remember when Sinead O'Connor sang for a cup of coffee? Dude.

Speaker 3:
[92:43] Even my wife, who doesn't care, she was like, God, this is amazing. I was like, I know.

Speaker 5:
[92:48] Yeah, it's that delivery. It's making it special because these guys are special, man.

Speaker 3:
[92:53] The WWE is too... Like they're too controlling of their stuff, right? Because the glass breaking stone cold music, that would be dope. That's next level.

Speaker 5:
[93:03] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[93:04] A UFC fighter could probably do it now, right? With TKO.

Speaker 5:
[93:07] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[93:12] Especially a white heavyweight or light heavyweight.

Speaker 4:
[93:16] I feel like Strickland.

Speaker 3:
[93:17] Strickland. Dude, stone cold music, Sean.

Speaker 5:
[93:20] Let's go. That would be dope. Against Homslot.

Speaker 3:
[93:23] I remember Shane being Trump came out because Adam Ray, who Adam's a great guy. I'm so happy for his success. Adam Ray was being Biden at Kill Tony.

Speaker 5:
[93:31] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[93:32] And Shane came out as Trump to stone cold.

Speaker 5:
[93:34] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[93:34] And it was the funniest. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[93:39] Just the MLB, whoever's running that shit now, they get the pageantry. They get that kind of planning to that. Where for a long time, they just did none of that.

Speaker 3:
[93:49] Well, it's effortless. By the way, effortless diversity, like the MLB is insane. Like 40 countries have like a dominant. You saw the world baseball classic. It's amazing how many dominant baseball players come from all over the globe. You have that. I think that they're silently encouraging the whole team rivalry thing where they're like, gets a little chippy, gets a little violent. Fine, we're good. We're not going to say anything. We're not going to encourage it, but we're not going to. Then also, like you said, the welcoming the Padres, the Dodgers. I don't know about other ballparks. I have to assume the Yankees, it's an organization. It almost transcends baseball. But you go to Dodger Stadium now and it's like the tie ins to like anime and like every player has their own like animated card and the lights and the bobblehead night.

Speaker 5:
[94:36] It's like everyone has a bobblehead.

Speaker 4:
[94:37] It's a rock concert environment. You're like, they've nailed it.

Speaker 5:
[94:40] And I give a little credit to the Banana League, the banana, Savannah Bananas, because I don't know if you've seen what they're doing. Like they'll sell out Petco Stadium, they'll sell out that Tampa Bay State, the Rays in like two minutes. But there's so much entertainment. There's so much pageantry. And I think that's why they're so big now.

Speaker 3:
[95:00] And they're good enough at baseball to have credibility.

Speaker 5:
[95:02] Oh, those guys can fucking play.

Speaker 3:
[95:03] They're good enough.

Speaker 5:
[95:04] So I think MLB is like, OK, what can we kind of get away with that they're doing? We can take a page out of their book.

Speaker 3:
[95:11] Why not? Have you seen, speaking of the Savannah Bananas, have you seen this guy's goat right now? He's my goat. They brought a dude out of the crowd.

Speaker 5:
[95:22] Savannah Bananas? Yes.

Speaker 3:
[95:24] Makes like a diving catcher, like a really amazing defensive play. They did like a raffle, like who thinks they can play? And out of all, and they brought a guy out, just a dude. He's in tennis shoes. And then he hits a bomb.

Speaker 5:
[95:37] Did he have a background in baseball or anything?

Speaker 3:
[95:39] Clearly, but it's not like-

Speaker 5:
[95:41] It's not like pretty set up?

Speaker 3:
[95:43] No, no, no. I mean, he hits a fucking, he corks one. It's so fucking cool. So, that crowd will go, no, no, no. Savannah, but it's too, see, put, maybe put in Savannah Bananas, Fan Hits Homer, or Fan Hits Bomb.

Speaker 8:
[96:06] Bomb?

Speaker 3:
[96:08] Yeah, yeah, Bomb from, Fan Catch, Leads, Epic Bananas, Comeback.

Speaker 5:
[96:13] Yeah, cause it's an out for the Savannah Bananas if the crowd catches a ball, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 8:
[96:19] Yeah, that is cool.

Speaker 5:
[96:20] Yeah, pretty cool.

Speaker 3:
[96:22] You stay active and you'll be able to tell cause he's in, he's literally in street clothes and then he just hits a fucking just like a quark or two. Yeah, you did. And like, like no cool questions. He like flipped his bat and everything. I was like, Oh, this guy's my, this guy's my man.

Speaker 5:
[96:34] Awesome.

Speaker 3:
[96:35] This guy's my fucking.

Speaker 8:
[96:39] Yeah. I don't see it. Sorry, man.

Speaker 3:
[96:41] No problem. Fan out of credit hits. Homer. Okay. Let's just try one. Homer from crowd.

Speaker 5:
[96:48] Homerun.

Speaker 3:
[96:51] God damn it. I'm going to find out. I'm going to send to you.

Speaker 8:
[96:58] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[96:59] Fan kisses, fly ball.

Speaker 8:
[97:00] No. If I find it, I'll put it in the episode.

Speaker 3:
[97:04] You're the man.

Speaker 8:
[97:05] No worries.

Speaker 9:
[97:12] So, Dixie for Jamie McGraw, question mark. If he makes it that far, the two two. Pay off pitch. High five all! Left center field! Are you kidding me? Four letters, one word! I'm standing here watching the replay because I still can't f-ing believe that happened.

Speaker 5:
[98:20] Yeah, I was watching a thing where they had old school, like NFL players taking BP. I think it was that Rocky Sabre All-Star Game, and people forget John Elway is better at baseball than he was football. Have you seen him?

Speaker 3:
[98:32] He was drafted, right? He was going to play for, I think he was going to play for the Yankees.

Speaker 5:
[98:35] He's going to be the number one pick. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[98:37] And wild, dude. That is wild.

Speaker 5:
[98:40] They show him taking BP and you're like, oh shit.

Speaker 3:
[98:42] That is crazy. Crazy. And also, have you seen, you were talking about earlier in the show, we were talking about how there's a special thing with baseball. And I agree completely. But have you seen the video of NFL players trying to hit off, even hit off a tee? Yeah. It's like, if you don't have that thing, or if you didn't-

Speaker 5:
[99:00] You're not just going to be athletic, you're going to jump in and start-

Speaker 3:
[99:02] And then there's video of like, Mookie Betts running routes and like, stunking basketballs. You're like, oh, well.

Speaker 5:
[99:09] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[99:12] Oh, well. There's also something I mentioned that's genetic about that. But I was watching Mr. Beast with my daughter and my wife the other night, and it was actually really cool. There was a bunch of other content creators, and they all competed to give away a million dollars to one of their fans.

Speaker 5:
[99:28] That's cool.

Speaker 3:
[99:28] So yeah, it was really cool. It was content creators from all over the world. One of the contests that they wheeled it, they needled it down to 10 kids, and they got down to, oh, Fanny at Home Run. There it is. They whittled it down to like 10, 12 kids, and they got to a basketball competition. There's three or four kids who are crushing. Let's just assume you know what they look like.

Speaker 5:
[99:55] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[99:55] Okay. But then the next one was baseball and there was some kid from like Chile.

Speaker 4:
[100:00] You know, they just tell me it's like as you just got done fucking scorching people in basketball and they were like, I was like, guys, I'm not going to say much, but they're playing up to stereotypes. This is it.

Speaker 5:
[100:15] And you found it.

Speaker 8:
[100:15] No, it's not showing anything.

Speaker 5:
[100:17] That's just the guy talking about it.

Speaker 3:
[100:19] I wonder if they scrubbed it for some reason, but it was, you saw him walk out from the crowd, then he makes a great play and then just hits a fucking corker. It was awesome.

Speaker 8:
[100:28] Says Pickles intern. What's Pickles?

Speaker 5:
[100:31] That's not what we're talking about.

Speaker 8:
[100:33] I don't know then.

Speaker 3:
[100:35] If I find it, I'll text it to you.

Speaker 8:
[100:37] Please do.

Speaker 5:
[100:39] Yeah, it's just the guy talking. All right. Well, brother, I appreciate you coming on, Big Dog.

Speaker 3:
[100:44] Always my pleasure.

Speaker 5:
[100:45] You're the absolute best, man.

Speaker 3:
[100:47] I appreciate it.

Speaker 5:
[100:48] I love you.

Speaker 8:
[100:49] I want to ask real quick, Mike, have you been, since you have all these connections and stuff to the music place and we have the same taste in music.

Speaker 3:
[100:55] Yes, we do.

Speaker 8:
[100:55] Have you been to any of the new Pantera tour at all?

Speaker 3:
[101:01] I got invited to go. Damn. This is tour, but when it first started, like two years ago, one year ago.

Speaker 8:
[101:06] And then they started touring the Talekah Tuna.

Speaker 3:
[101:08] Right. And I knew some, I have some really close friends who were in like the marketing team for BLL, Black Label Society and Zach's World, who worked with Ozzy and they, and I wasn't able to make it, but.

Speaker 8:
[101:20] Bummer.

Speaker 3:
[101:21] I don't know. I don't know if I want to.

Speaker 8:
[101:26] You don't like, because there's no dine bag or what?

Speaker 3:
[101:28] Not only not, not no dine bag, but like, yeah. And by the way, like I really like Charlie Benanti. I really like Zach, but I just, I was like such a, and I was really lucky. I saw the Pantera. Like for, I'm reinventing the steel on that tour. And then for the Far Beyond Driven Tour, when I was like sophomore and like you couldn't, I keep trying to tell people, even if you don't learn on a metalhead, peak Pantera, when they were really on before, like Phil started to get super deep into drugs. Like you have no idea how good they were, how fucking tight.

Speaker 5:
[102:07] It's a bummer.

Speaker 3:
[102:09] Five star, like Van Halen at their peak, the look, the songwriting, the performance, the technical ability, it was amazing.

Speaker 8:
[102:17] Yeah, at least you got to see them. That's the one band.

Speaker 5:
[102:19] Are you going to go, Jay?

Speaker 8:
[102:20] Do you want to go? Yeah, of course.

Speaker 5:
[102:22] You want to go to the new camp?

Speaker 8:
[102:23] I still want to do, yeah. But they're touring like in Europe or something right now.

Speaker 5:
[102:27] Do they have plans to tour the US?

Speaker 8:
[102:28] They already went to Austin like in 2025. We missed it.

Speaker 11:
[102:31] We weren't here.

Speaker 3:
[102:33] They announced it yesterday, the Slayer show, the special show. It's nowhere around here, but they're going to play Rain and Blood, Beginning to End.

Speaker 8:
[102:42] Sick.

Speaker 3:
[102:42] And Down and Suicidal Tendencies are opening.

Speaker 8:
[102:48] Shit, I've heard from Down and Longasson. And Suicidal too. That's badass.

Speaker 3:
[102:53] I'm into that.

Speaker 8:
[102:54] Sick.

Speaker 5:
[102:54] Hell yeah. Well, Mike, we love you, brother. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for answering the Bat Signal.

Speaker 3:
[102:59] Thank you, guys.

Speaker 5:
[102:59] This is The Fighter and The Mike. We're out.

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