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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 1:
[02:45] All right, welcome in. Hi, I'm Sarah. This is a new TSFS. And if you are here, welcome. I'm so glad you're a Frisian. That's what we call ourselves. It's kind of like Howard Stern's The Whack Pack. You know, we're a little off. We are obsessed with pop culture. And you know, if you don't have anything to say, anything good to say, come kiki and sit next to me. Cause I love a little tea, a little gossip. Now look, we got a lot to get to today. David Yontef Behind The Velvet Rope is here. If you're new to my show, I've collabed with him for probably four years. He is a Bravo expert, kind of became really known in the podcast world for all of his information. He is like real tea, real info on Real Housewives of New Jersey. That's his specialty. So he joins my show on Thursdays, sometimes on Fridays, and definitely always on Saturdays, okay? So we will get to David and we will get to some tea, Margaret Joseph's delusion around her casting or firing from Real Housewives of New Jersey. And then does Boz from Rhobh, does she want to be Kyle Richards? Does she want to step into Kyle's shoes and dethrone Kyle Richards? We'll talk about that. But we have two news updates about the Duggar family, this bizarre, weird, like sick, sick, sick family. They're just so strange. So, Josh Duggar, very interesting. The Sun, many news outlets have had this, and a lot of speculation out this morning. Josh Duggar's prison date has been pushed back for a third time. A third time, meaning he's getting more time added to his sentence for the third time while he is trying to mount enough, I guess, evidence to be granted an appeal, which so far hasn't happened. But this is an exclusive from The Sun that broke just today. Duggar is now going to spend an extra, Josh, who's the creepy one, who possessed child corn, who also essayed his own siblings, sick, sick, sick. Now, of course, we have Joseph Duggar, who's going to go to jail for a significant amount of time as well. Again, innocent till proven guilty, but he's apparently on tape with a cop and the dad of the victim admitting it. So Josh Duggar now, a lot of speculation, will spend an extra Christmas behind bars as his release date has been pushed back for a third time. He's 38 years old. He's serving a 12 and a half year sentence for possessing and receiving child, you know, corn material, and his arrest happened and all went down in April of 2021. Now, very interesting. He's housed in a low security federal prison in Texas, 10 miles south of Dallas. New details from the Federal Bureau of Prison show that his release date has been moved from December 2032 to now February 2nd, 2033. And the reason added is most likely due to rule breaking because Josh has done that before. Now, the son reached out to the US. Attorney's Office in the Western District of Arkansas and Josh's attorney for comment, a spokesperson for the Federal Prison of Bureau said they could not comment on the case. They couldn't deny, confirm anything. However, generally, there are lots of reasons why an inmate's projected release date may go up or down. Most likely, it can be first step act, time credits, program credits, loss of good conduct, time for disciplinary reasons, and additional sentencing. His sentence already had been extended twice. In 2023, he spent roughly two months in the special housing unit, commonly known as The Hole, for possessing a contraband cell phone. His release date then was moved from August 12th, 2032 to October 2nd, 2032. This guy likes being behind bars, I would say. It was then pushed back again, as the US Sun previously reported, for disciplinary infractions that can lead to loss of good time. He was removed from the honors dorm, which offered perks like microwaves and dryers, and moved to standard housing. A source previously told The Sun, They finished painting the walls and getting flowers put into dorm 6, where Josh lives. It's been turned into an honors dorm. They get special privileges and building updates because it's an honors dorm. There are washers, dryers, there are microwaves. As I mentioned, the insider added how inmates living in those dorms can have any disciplinary action in a certain amount of time. If they have a disciplinary action in a certain amount of time, they could have that housing taken away, which it appears he did. His last projected release date, of course, was December 23, 2032. But he will now miss, yes, another family holiday. Now, if you heard my podcast earlier this week, he did do another attempt to appeal his child-corne conviction. Previous appeals have been rejected, including a denial by the US Supreme Court in June of 2024. Sweetie, it's your right. I don't know if he has a public defender or if he's got a private lawyer. I think he has a private lawyer. According to people, he provided eight arguments as to why he should be granted a new trial and have his conviction vacated. In court, one of those includes that a prosecution witness manipulated forensic data, lied under oath, and the status of the computer images. One of the things he said is that his computer, where the child-corne was found, that another person had access to that and therefore they were doing it. This is the other story that's ruffling a lot of feathers because I believe this victim's name is going to be coming out very soon. The Joe Duggar alleged victim is not scared and doesn't want to hide, a source says. She's just 14 years old. Well, we're getting closer to knowing her identity. Us Weekly dropped this story yesterday. The victim refuses to live in fear and keeping a brave face amid the attention surrounding the case. It took a lot for her to come forward, but she is not scared, a source exclusively tells Us Weekly. She's strong and she doesn't want to hide. Last month, Us Weekly confirmed that Joe Duggar was arrested in Arkansas for essaying a girl who was nine years old at the time and she is now 14. While the identity of the alleged victim has yet to be revealed, a source told Us Weekly that the accuser is very close to the family of Joseph Wife's Kendra Duggar. Christina and Paul Caldwell are not hiding the fact that Joseph's victim is close to the Caldwell family. All right, you, people get all wound up. Don't be speculating about who it is, okay? I'm going to say this. This is an Us Weekly story. This victim is allegedly very, very close to the Caldwells. You can use your own genius mind to come up with who this victim is alleged to be. An insider shared that Christina has told other members of their church, but she's not sure she wants to talk about it so publicly. That is what she's struggling with, but she's not hiding it. As for why the alleged victim waited to come forward and report the crime, the source said that she may have taken time to process what transpired when the alleged sexual assault happened. Joe was on vacation with Kendra and her family, the insider claimed. No other Duggar family members were there. As years passed, the alleged victim understood more and got the courage to tell her family. Just like the police report says, when she told her family, they acted on it. Us has reached out to the Caldwells, an attorney for Kendra and Joseph Duggar. So I'm just going to say I believe their identity is going to be revealed. And I think at this point, you can pretty much put two and two together as to who this alleged victim is. Okay, not my story. I know people get very upset about this, but revealing the victim actually creates an opposite effect. It doesn't encourage people to come forward that are victims of SA. It creates hiding because, of course, nowadays with the internet, everybody has an opinion. And as sick as it is that people will try to defend Kendra and Joe, they'll have thoughts about the Caldwells. So a lot of people feel keep the identity of someone underage private. It reminds me of having Drake Bell on my show after Quiet On Set Doc, and Drake Bell, you know, he kept his identity very private for a long time. There's a lot of speculation. And then he came forward and talked about being essayed by a producer. I think the guy was a producer. Anyway, he was associated and employed by Nickelodeon. 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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[13:25] Okay, here's David Yontef behind the Velvet Rope.

Speaker 5:
[13:29] Evan Ross.

Speaker 1:
[13:31] Evan Ross. I mean, Hollywood royalty, darling. Hollywood royalty. Diana Ross's son. I did. I mean, I will say, does it peeve you as a... I'm not going to... I've said this a thousand times. There's some top interviewers in the world. David Yontef is on that list for me. Howard Stern. Joe Rogan. I like Rogan's style. You know, I love my girl Heather, a juicy scoop. I love him. I'm a scooper. I'm a juicy scooper. I love my Heather. You are one of the greats. Oprah used to be awesome for me.

Speaker 6:
[14:06] She's had her moment.

Speaker 1:
[14:07] With long form, she's not as powerful, I don't think. Anyhow, you're up there. Your interviews are so good. Now, but what I wondered if you were irritated. Evan Ross did part of the interview, I believe, in his car. That always gets me when the guests are on their phone in a vehicle. It's like, could you? I guess this was a top priority for you.

Speaker 6:
[14:32] Well, I think it was, first of all, I think Mr. Evan Ross did the entire day of press junkets in his car. This was in part, this was the entire day. I thought you were going to say something totally different. You know, the Diana questions couldn't flow so freely. We had a little bit of a limit. We had a little bit of a limit on the Ashley Simpson questions. But I understand you're a human being. Interview should be about you. But I really do enjoy Evan Ross. But yeah, the son of Diana and wife, husband of Ashley, that's a person that we'd like to speak to, you know?

Speaker 1:
[15:06] Amazing. Amazing. He's a person. Yes, everything. Yes to all that. And I mean, I'm sure, I don't know, did you care about Michael Jackson's stories? But I mean, isn't Michael Jackson?

Speaker 6:
[15:15] We asked about Michael Jackson. We asked about Mr. Jackson. Yes, he grew up. Well, you know, there's a lot of, you know, yeah, no, he, Michael Jackson was in the house. And I mean, you know, Diana, Michael, Lionel, these are the people, girl.

Speaker 1:
[15:29] I know. That was so good.

Speaker 6:
[15:30] So we had a Michael Jackson question. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:33] But it was just one, right? What was it about? Was it, hey, Michael, did Michael molest you? Or what was it?

Speaker 6:
[15:39] No, I wasn't able to ask about the molestation questions. I think it was like, what did you learn, if anything, from Michael?

Speaker 1:
[15:46] Oh, you know, and then I don't think this one was approved by your manager, but were you molested by Michael or what?

Speaker 6:
[15:54] The managers are very, you know, the managers run a tight ship when we do these interviews, guys.

Speaker 1:
[16:00] So I fucking hate the interviews now.

Speaker 6:
[16:03] They're all they're all a little something, aren't they?

Speaker 1:
[16:05] Because they all have a ball and the manager's on and they all say after the interview, oh, this was so great and they loved you. And then three days later, Mr. So-and-so was wondering if you could edit out the entire part about blah, blah, blah. And then he makes a reference to his penis at the 22th. Could you remember? I'm so done. I don't care. I don't care about these people anymore. I just don't. I want to rant and rave like a lunatic. A pop culture reporter and whatever they want to edit it out.

Speaker 6:
[16:40] I had something recently. You're like, oh, nobody cares about this.

Speaker 1:
[16:43] No one cares. Nobody cares. I literally and sometimes the worst are the comics. I've had comics on TikTok, TikTok comments or TikTok comedians, TikTok comedians.

Speaker 6:
[16:55] No one.

Speaker 1:
[16:56] Nobody knows who you are. Even if you have a million followers, nobody knows. You walk into a Walmart, honey, they're scratching their own butt cracks. They aren't even looking twice at you.

Speaker 6:
[17:08] Those are the worst.

Speaker 1:
[17:09] They want all this stuff out. They think that people care because they're creating, they're crafting this TikTok brand. No one gives a shit. OK, sorry.

Speaker 6:
[17:17] No, people that, yeah, I mean, I don't care if you say anything. That's why people need to come to our live show because you get to ask any question. And it's on the 28th of May at 7 p.m. EST, 4 p.m. PST. It's going to be a small group. Get your tickets. It's going to sell out. We cannot plead the fifth. You could ask us literally anything. You could think of the most vile, heinous questions to ask us. We cannot plead the fifth. Don't limit it just to Bravo. And most people do.

Speaker 1:
[17:48] There's going to be so many good ones, though, with everything with Margaret Josephs up there talking.

Speaker 6:
[17:53] Margaret Josephs.

Speaker 1:
[17:55] Desi, fessy, desi, desi, fessy.

Speaker 6:
[17:58] Margaret, you lost me at Margaret Josephs. You lost me at Margaret Josephs. Can I tell you something, though? Speaking about Margaret, since you brought it up, I feel Margaret is a little bit delusional. She's a little, I think she's starting to not be able to tell the lines of reality versus, like, if you make up a story and you just stick to it enough, I think you start to believe it. Right? So Margaret is talking. She's on doing some interviews and she's talking. And she's talking about that she was test filming with people back. You know, listen, they really were thinking maybe of going with Margaret Delores and Melissa. That is true. Way back.

Speaker 1:
[18:44] So that part's true.

Speaker 6:
[18:45] That part's true. She was test filming with the newbies. That part's true. Also, here's where the Marge, who's still doing interviews, is getting me. I think she's like a little delusional. So she also says during the time she was test filming with Melissa and Delores, that Teresa was like reaching out. Teresa was texting and was like, I'm interested in reconciling. Like, you know, doing what you have to do to save the show, which to save her own place on the show, which she actually eventually did when she made up with Melissa. But I mean, do we believe that Teresa was texting Margaret Josephs, not not Melissa and saying, let's make up. The show's going forward without me. I made a mistake. By the way, I'm going to text you all this so you can show it to everyone in the world because we all know that that's what people do. They reveal texts.

Speaker 1:
[19:43] Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 6:
[19:45] Right. So do we believe because I'm not so sure, Margaret, I believe that Teresa did this. She's a little delusional this Margaret. What do you think?

Speaker 1:
[19:53] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[19:55] Just my opinion.

Speaker 1:
[19:56] I think that's probably true. I think you're correct that she's probably delusional. Yes.

Speaker 6:
[20:01] I don't think Teresa said, hey, Marge, instead of trying to make up with my sister-in-law, Lucille, whose family, I think you're my new way in. And New Jersey is going forward without me because it was at one point for a minute. And I really want to make up with you because I'm sure you're going to be open to this. And I'm just going to text you and you can put this out to all the bloggers. You I don't care. I don't think Teresa went and did this. Do you?

Speaker 1:
[20:28] No, I don't think so. And you know better. And it's interesting that you're saying because I've actually seen from other bloggers, they don't even believe that Marge was test filming because Marge again seems to say she quit because of Teresa. She wasn't fired. She recently did a panel. She's she's so a lot of people are saying she's Delulu about the even test filming. But you're seeming to confirm. No, she was test filming.

Speaker 6:
[20:52] There was a little bit of testimony. But to your point and everyone's point, that is the second area in which she's Delulu. It's not just that Teresa is texting you. She's sticking to the story. Yeah, she's doing interviews and really doubling down. I got to give her credit. She's like, no, we've been talking since December and I let Andy know and I let the network know and I'm like as you know, important in life as like Taylor Swift or as you know, popular and like big as like Kim Kardashian. So I reached out to the network and it was during Christmas and they took my call and I told them my very bad news. I know you're a huge network, but the network can never go on without the barge. We had a several three month negotiation. She's doubling down. No, Marge, no, you didn't do any of this. You didn't decide to leave the show. You were fired. So you are delusional. So to your point, when all these people are saying this, yeah, I think you're delusional about she's tripling down. Yep. Stick it to the story. Not like not like not like backtracking and oh God, they're still asking this question and let me just skirt around it. Oh no, she's happy to talk about it all you want. We may be negotiating since December and there was a phone call and an email and a lunch and I took Andy to this and that and of course, they would never live without me. She's delusional this Margaret.

Speaker 1:
[22:09] I look, that's what I was reading and looking at the recent interview and everything. That seems like it. Yeah, she left. She left because of try. That's what she's sticking to. She was not fired, darling. It was a personal and mental health choice.

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Speaker 6:
[23:35] Well, you were fired. And so the good news is your mental health is going to be better. I agree with you there because you're not on the show and you won't have to deal with Teresa. But girl, you didn't leave on your own. Come on now. Come on.

Speaker 1:
[23:50] You're about to be so good.

Speaker 6:
[23:51] Yeah. Can I tell you something else? Speaking of people that are acting a little wild. You know, well, two things. Now that Beverly Hills has come and gone and we're on to other seasons and Erika still is like she is sad. She still wants to read back after all this, after this horrible reunion and Dorit is just so horrible to you. I mean, and Dorit is out of there with a smirk on her fate. Every time Erika spoke, every time Amanda spoke, Dorit couldn't even like, I don't know. But Erika still hurt. She still wants to read back after all this.

Speaker 1:
[24:32] EJ. Well, does this surprise you? EJ did not have girlfriends until she joined Rhobh. She said this. I think her life was very much, you know, I've said this, I believe she's still madly in love with Tom, with Tom Girardi, wherever, whatever jail he's in or state of dementia. I think she loves Tom, she'll love him to the end. And I think her life was dedicated probably to Tom, her son to some degree. And you know, she traveled the world with Tom to all these law conventions, all these things.

Speaker 6:
[25:06] So she was a big wig, a big wig.

Speaker 1:
[25:09] I think she didn't develop female friendships until Rhobh. And there's probably a level of, you know, like attachment that she can't let go of. I could see that.

Speaker 6:
[25:21] She's hard. She's really hurt. Meanwhile, Dorit is just like, I don't know. I mean, listen, I have to give Dorit credit because that is the job. Like I said this before, I would just show up on day one and be like everybody here who's so thrilled with me and who loves me, like I will actually hate these people and they will hate me. Like I will not leave here with one friend because that's the job. And it is what it is. And I will be friends with certain ones and then not friends with certain ones. And I will just be like whatever friendships fall out, like I actually don't care. I don't because I've never let myself think these were my real friends. Maybe Dorit understands that. Maybe she's great at the game.

Speaker 1:
[26:07] I think well, maybe maybe Dorit is like one of the greats at the game.

Speaker 6:
[26:11] Because she's sitting up there. She rolled her eyes at that reunion. She resolved nothing. Now, go on.

Speaker 1:
[26:19] Well, no, but while we're talking about it, I sent you because your friend Ronald Richards, the attorney. Unfortunately, Ronald and I had a falling out. So I'm not.

Speaker 6:
[26:28] You really did.

Speaker 1:
[26:30] I'm not on his good list.

Speaker 6:
[26:31] No, you're not. He hates you. He hates you. Okay, go on. It's okay, baby. A lot of people hate me. Lots of people hate me. But he despises you. God, I think he's a great guy, actually.

Speaker 1:
[26:46] I know, you're a dear friend. But anyhow, what is this whole update that he posted this past week? Breaking news about the pretty mess. An entity related to counsel in the Marco Marco case, Christopher Pasola case has agreed to purchase the lawsuit. I didn't even know this was possible.

Speaker 6:
[27:04] It's so funny. I am a lawyer, but I haven't practiced it in 900 years. I don't really know this was that I got to call Chad, my lawyer, the one that's taking care of Kelly Dodd. Poor thing. I got to call Chad because I have Chad back on here. I didn't realize this was actually, we never learned this at law school and if we did, I was absent that day. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[27:27] I've never heard of this. This means they will step into the shoes of the trustee if approved. Isn't Ronald Richards, wasn't he representing the trustee?

Speaker 6:
[27:37] Well, here's what I took. I read this quickly. I believe there's good and bad news for Ms. Jane. I believe that the Marco Marco lawsuit, it seemed like that was tossed out and there was good news and that there's no more Marco Marco case against her. That's how I read this. That was the good news and then the bad news was, I guess, yes, Christopher Priscilla is trying to purchase the lawsuit for $2 million and step into the place of the trustees, meaning, I guess, that he will give $2 million to the victims, the trustees, and that will be dispersed, and then if he wins the lawsuit, he keeps the winnings. That's how I read all this, but that the actual case of Marco Marco against Erika was tossed out. You read the first part, so almost like good news.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] That's a huge victory.

Speaker 6:
[28:33] I mean, this is how I read it, and that's why they're true. They don't have anything to do with each other, but I think that's why he's trying to buy it, because the other case is gone. Now, they're two totally separate cases.

Speaker 1:
[28:44] That's a huge loss for him and for Marco Marco.

Speaker 6:
[28:48] Right. That's how I read it, and that's why I think he's trying to buy this case, because it's a way to still get back at her. That's what I read. So I thought the good news was that, like I said, good and bad news for Erika, I think.

Speaker 1:
[29:01] This is mind-blowing to me. And so is people. You know, this post has over 100 comments. People are writing things so like, so we're buying lawsuits like companies, but debt now?

Speaker 6:
[29:12] I honestly never knew this was case.

Speaker 1:
[29:15] He responds, lawsuits have always been for sale. They're called claims, are chosen actions. People are like, explain this to me like I'm a five-year-old. I'm the same way.

Speaker 6:
[29:24] Me too. And I'm a lawyer, but I suck.

Speaker 1:
[29:27] Seem to do.

Speaker 6:
[29:29] Maybe I was outback sucking dick the day we taught this in law school. What do I know? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[29:34] So confused, someone writes, will this case get yet another delay? Ronald Richards answers this one, it may cause a short delay. So I mean, not only she got a victory now in the fact too, like, okay, what are we going to delay this? So many delays, years of delays. People are saying she's going to get another year of delay.

Speaker 6:
[29:55] Erika, just save the money from the show. Save it, just get interest and save it, girl.

Speaker 1:
[30:01] This is very fascinating. I do think you're right. I think the other one was tossed out, right?

Speaker 6:
[30:08] Right. And that's why I think they're trying to buy this, which I mean, look, if there's real money, it's like, I guess, and then I guess it's like a gamble. It's like you could take the 2 million and divide it and run. And then maybe they'll get 10 million and you wish you didn't sell it. Kind of like Vegas, you know?

Speaker 1:
[30:23] Someone says, we don't understand and I'm not stupid. Explain this in English, please. Ron Richards says, another party has bought our lawsuit for $2 million to finish it up. So he's been bought out. So he's like, done?

Speaker 6:
[30:37] I don't know, but we can do more than I do.

Speaker 1:
[30:41] Very interesting, Ron.

Speaker 6:
[30:42] I'm telling you, I think I was out back that day. I think I had my knee pads and I think I was on my knees because I don't remember that from law school. Really? I really don't remember it, babe. So there you go. Can you imagine that? You know what the problem also I have with Beverly Hills, now that we're moved on from the season. First of all, a lot of people agreed when we talked about it. I said, I can't stand Boz's noises. She even did that at the reunion. Now, Kyle, if you were to sue Mauricio for the divorce, will you get half of it? Will you ask for half of the agency? Well, it's mine. Does he know that? Kathy Hilton says from across the couch, she's making the noises again, very passive aggressive this Boz. But it finally dawned on me. It's really simple. Boz wants to be Kyle, period. She came in with an agenda. What? Oh, she wants to be Kyle. She wants to be number one on the call sheet, honey. She wants to be Heather Locklear, Amanda Woodward on Melrose fucking place. Larry Hadman, JR Ewing on Dallas, baby. She wants it. She is used to that. It just dawned on me. She's in that C-suite, just used to that corner office. And she came on wanting to be top dog. And she don't give a fuck about Dorit. That's just, you know, that was the way in, because she has to overthrow the person whose show it is. I think Boz wants to be Kyle. So bad. I really do think this.

Speaker 1:
[32:20] Really?

Speaker 6:
[32:21] I can't unsee it.

Speaker 1:
[32:22] She can't be that delusional. She's a smart woman.

Speaker 4:
[32:25] And I like the Boz.

Speaker 1:
[32:26] I think the Boz fits in. And actually, wait, you're also like, you are much more on things, because right now my life is chaos. Is Boz preggers or she's just continuing the IVF journey?

Speaker 6:
[32:38] I don't think she's preggers. I'm not so up on it. I don't think she's preggers.

Speaker 1:
[32:43] Let me look at this.

Speaker 6:
[32:44] I think she's got some things going on. You know, I'm very mixed on Boz. I mean, in a way, I can't stand her. I cannot stand her. The little noises, what the fuck? If you have something to say, speak up. I'm from New York. Aggressive, aggressive is my style. I don't like passive, aggressive. Oop, oop, oop, oop, oop. Shut the fuck up. A Bozoma, a Bozoma. But I also don't mind her, and I think she's an interesting addition to the franchise.

Speaker 1:
[33:21] I cannot believe she's so delusional as to be wanting to be or think that she could be Kyle Richards.

Speaker 6:
[33:26] I think she wants to, I think she wants to, she wants to hijack this whole show.

Speaker 1:
[33:31] Well, good luck. Good luck, please. We've got more of a chance of discovering a UFO at Area 51, sweetie. It's not going to happen. Kyle and Kath run the franchise.

Speaker 6:
[33:43] They run the franchise. They run it.

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Speaker 6:
[35:01] I don't know, Boz, just you're not the worst, but you're kind of annoying me at the moment. I got to be honest with you, she's really just gotten under my skin. And listen, it's nothing personal, Rachel, you too, I don't know. Now she's not going to be about Roger next season. Everybody, that's the good news. If everybody's back, Rachel ain't going to talk about Roger and Amanda, who they are so horrible to her. They were so horrible to her at the reunion. Every time she spoke, Dorit can barely jump. Amanda's not going to be manifesting next season, but Rachel, I'm sorry, I thoroughly enjoyed Amanda way more than Rachel. I found her just, she's like Stacey Rush to me. She sticks to the story. Well, it's true. I mean, what's the big deal? Women could do anything men could do. I bought the house. It's all my money. Yeah, okay. I mean, yeah, saying I make more in a month than my husband makes in a year. No, that wasn't though. But I mean, it's actually true, everybody, by the way. So I mean, I find her very interesting. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[36:08] Look, do we still think she's coming back? I like her too.

Speaker 6:
[36:11] I don't like her.

Speaker 1:
[36:13] I like Rachel Zoe. I do.

Speaker 6:
[36:17] I liked Rachel better on the Zoe project 10 years ago.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] You know what I mean? I like her now better. And, you know, I love having someone like people can universally crap on. She's a great one. I don't think she cares.

Speaker 6:
[36:28] But here's the thing, that's no one has crapped at her. That's the problem I have with Rachel. Rachel? What do people have to say about Rachel besides Brie Jacobi, Roger's girlfriend? I mean, I don't think that's the problem I have with Rachel. Girl, you can sit up here on your high horse and Erika said, oh, she fit in so well. That's how you do it. I don't think Rachel understands what show she's on because guess what, sweetie? It happened to everyone. Beloved Garcelle, Lisa Rinna, it's girl Lisa Vanderpump. It's coming for you. It may not come for you next season, but Rachel, you Kyle, you ever Kyle Richards? They people love that Kyle Richards. Oh, they turns on her. They want her gone. So I don't think Rachel realizes this isn't the Rachel Zoe project with your name on the door. Like you had, she has an experienced Housewives, Amanda. Amanda is ready for anything after this fucking season, right? I mean, she's like, can't get much worse for the poor girl. I don't think Rachel realizes the show she's on. Oh, she came in, she had it so easy. They went to the Hamptons. Everybody loves Rachel.

Speaker 1:
[37:38] I love her. Like she's actually, I feel like she's actually going to date men on the show. Like, I love it. I love like, she seems way more of a flirt, aggressive out there. People ragged on her about pushing her boys for information and trashing Roger. Like she really wanted them to crap all over Roger and, you know, how Roger moved on and he's in the tabloids. I, I, I like so.

Speaker 6:
[37:59] I don't think she understands the game. I don't think she knows what show she's in.

Speaker 1:
[38:04] I have to take it back. We got to keep Tilly.

Speaker 8:
[38:05] You know, at first, I was like, all right, we got to lose the Tiltster.

Speaker 1:
[38:08] But I know now I love the Tiltster.

Speaker 6:
[38:10] When she, when she in the finale dropped that thing on the phone.

Speaker 8:
[38:13] Kitty, mommy, kitty, kitty.

Speaker 6:
[38:15] By the way, I'm thinking of going and visiting the Tiltster. The Tiltster is bopping around off Broadway right here. I'm still stuck in the New York area, guys. The Tiltster is bopping around. She's off Broadway. She's off Broadway through May.

Speaker 1:
[38:29] Okay, I like the Tiltster now.

Speaker 6:
[38:31] You want to fly to New York and go see the Tiltster?

Speaker 1:
[38:33] I wish, baby, but I got a dementia mama and I got an eight-week-old.

Speaker 6:
[38:39] Did you hear the saw in the background here?

Speaker 1:
[38:42] No, actually it's quite quiet.

Speaker 6:
[38:43] You don't hear that?

Speaker 1:
[38:45] No, we now know why you have a shark background because you're going to be revealing, darling, a higher-up view of Central Park, baby, in a new apartment.

Speaker 6:
[38:54] I can't believe there's literally sawdust flying everywhere. I can't believe you can't hear that construction. That's more power to us.

Speaker 1:
[39:02] You got a good microphone.

Speaker 6:
[39:04] Thank you, darling. Everyone thinks it looks like a dick. They're always like, what's that thing in front of your face?

Speaker 1:
[39:10] Good to be Ms. Yontef. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6:
[39:12] You're going to suck that dick? No, we have a major construction. This is like we have a whole team here today. There's people are sawing and stamping and, oh, God, get me out of New York. I need, fuck Jeff Lewis. We'll have our own flipping out show here, because apparently that's what I'm doing here with these houses. But just get me out of here. I just need a break. Anyway, what's going on with you? Anything new and exciting? Well, by the way, we have very mixed reviews, lots. We have one of our most popular shows in history. In history, people just loved the other day when we were talking about me and the robe and the old age home and all. But so really, really thousands of people were like, oh, this is amazing. Such a great break from the Bravo shit. Now, we've had two dissenters. One person said, this is all in the comments, one person said, life is so fucking hard. I don't want to hear about the two of you and cancer and dementia and all this. That was just one person. And someone else.

Speaker 7:
[40:18] I don't blame them.

Speaker 6:
[40:19] And someone else. The same day that we went on and on, and you're telling me, I can't wear the robe and expose myself in the old age home. The same day someone slipped into my DMs, I forgot who it was. I'm sorry. That said, the two reasons why I love your podcast more than any other podcast. One, you don't give a fuck. And I'm like, okay, that's true. That's our favorite part. You're like, it's disgusting listening to these Bravo podcasters. They kiss ass. And I'm like, uh-huh. And it's all fake because whoever is in the, they're not mad at Amanda and Wes. Just that's what you have to say. So I'm like, okay, and then they said, and I also love that, you never talk about your personal life. I'm just these other Bravo podcasters. And that was just the day that we were talking about how we're going to get old and all this other stuff and, you know.

Speaker 1:
[41:09] My problems are not, are crazy, are really crazy. My dilemma this week is, should I encourage my mom to think that she has a boyfriend at Senior Living, one of the nurses named Raheem, should I encourage her to think she has a boyfriend so she will like Senior Living and stay going there every single day? Like, should I pretend that?

Speaker 6:
[41:28] Yes. That's brilliant. I could have used that one about two years ago. Where were you with that idea?

Speaker 1:
[41:37] I have dilemmas like that every week. She, because this is the craziness of my house. Senior Living, I have gone back and forth to Senior Living three times. I mean, these people, they must have internal conversations about, here we go. Here's mentally ill Sarah. No, no, no. We keep filling this again. We set her up in Senior Living first of January. She lasted two nights. I picked her up. She had no pants on. She was drying her tears with her underwear. Took her home. I felt so guilty. Then I said, okay, I'm going to take her every day, make her get some friends, then she'll like it. Did that. She stayed for seven weeks, hated it, lost seven pounds, called me crying, delusional every night. It was awful. So moved her back in. But Senior Living said to me, look, you can do what you want. If you pay the fee, they don't care. They just want the money.

Speaker 6:
[42:23] I mean, oh, honey, they don't give a shit.

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Speaker 6:
[43:39] Having gone down this road before, oh, I would get calls like this one, oh my God, like is misbehaving. I would be like, oh my God, you're going to get kicked out. Oh no, nobody's getting kicked out. No, as long as that eight grand clears. Oh, please, honey, I love them.

Speaker 1:
[43:56] So this is what I love about senior living. There are no rules, baby. So they were like, look, if you just want to keep her at your house at night, you can drop her off. We have a shuttle service, we'll come pick her up. So I'm like, okay, great, done. And then when I go on vacation, she's going to hate it, but she's going to have to stay there some nights, right? So anyhow, like she's actually liking it sort of, but you know, with dementia, you know, with your dad, one day they love it, the next day they hate it. So she hated it the other day.

Speaker 6:
[44:21] Mostly hate it.

Speaker 1:
[44:23] Mostly hate it. They mostly hate it even during the day. But now she's convinced that...

Speaker 6:
[44:27] The nights are the worst, yes.

Speaker 1:
[44:29] And well, she's nights with me, so she's doing really well. Like she's doing pretty well for now, right?

Speaker 6:
[44:34] I hope this dementia host places near your house, honey.

Speaker 1:
[44:38] It is, it's a mile away.

Speaker 6:
[44:39] Cause that LA traffic, that ain't no bullshit.

Speaker 1:
[44:41] Oh no, it's super close.

Speaker 6:
[44:43] That's why I put this.

Speaker 1:
[44:44] And... But now she believes this nurse, Raheem, is, has eyes for her.

Speaker 6:
[44:53] Go, just go for it. Just go for it. I mean, just go for it.

Speaker 1:
[44:57] When she, I was like, oh my God. Cause I, you know, my dad passed away when I was in high school. Then she remarried my stepdad. They couldn't really live together. My stepdad's such a nice person. But anyway, they got divorced cause they hated living with one another.

Speaker 6:
[45:08] It's hard to live with someone. Yep.

Speaker 1:
[45:10] They hated blending families. But then they went on dates every single weekend until she had to move. My stepfather was very upset to see her move. But of course, he can't take care of her yet.

Speaker 6:
[45:19] I could imagine.

Speaker 1:
[45:19] So now she thinks she wants... So at first at senior living, I was like, do not get a boyfriend. You've had it with men. You've been divorced. You've been widowed, sweetie. It's over. Now I'm sort of like, should I just encourage her to get a boyfriend? Because then I think still like, okay, there we go. That's my life dilemma this time.

Speaker 6:
[45:35] I say yes. Listen, if it makes you feel... I say yes. No, if it makes you feel any better to what you said, I also... What are you up to? Well, my team also does... I mean, this has been going on forever, but especially now that we're doing a remodel and a new purchase, they actually think I'm also crazy. So just like the home thinks you're crazy. I mean, they think... I think they think I'm an alcoholic because at 9 a.m., sometimes I'm like really good. And by like, I mean, like I go down spirals. Like the other day, I'm just like, well, apparently now I think my shower is leaking. And like, what is this? Is it a brand new place? We have to fix this whole leak. I just, you know, things were in that remodel phase and things are... Listen, Sarah, I've always said, the beginning is great, the end is great. The middle process is literally hell. So we're in that middle process. So one day I'm just like, welcome everybody. And the next day I'm like, I'm screaming about the water. At least I know I'm being a nightmare. At least I'm aware of it.

Speaker 1:
[46:42] I think as long as the check clears, as long as the American Express goes through, I don't think the contractor cares. I mean, I think he's probably dread seeing you every day, but I think he's like, you know what?

Speaker 6:
[46:51] Well, last time, I mean, I work with the same team. Last time when we were done, I, you know, the designers, but the contracts, I apologized last time two years ago when we were done. I said, listen, and they said, David, you're not even in the top 10 of nightmares, which I believe. I do believe it.

Speaker 1:
[47:12] That's pretty good.

Speaker 6:
[47:12] They're like, you're not even, you have no idea. They know that I'm a nice, nice person. I'm just OCD about my home, as you know. Because you spilled shit on my fucking floor. You didn't do that here.

Speaker 1:
[47:30] He literally has booties at his place. You have to put the booties on.

Speaker 6:
[47:34] Oh, please. We have the floor covered right now with paper. I heard something like they put down some thing three hours ago and I heard clunk. I'm like, just because there's stuff, paper on the floor, doesn't mean that we're not going to break through it and there's going to be a dent when all this is picked up. Nobody cares. No, don't worry about it, David. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[47:55] There's some life for you. I mean, I got a lot more. I mean, any topic you want to cover, marriage, kids.

Speaker 6:
[48:02] I got nothing. Okay. I just want to get to LA. That's all I'm craving it. Yeah, I'm craving it. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[48:12] Well, wait, save it for the next show because we need to tell people to get a ticket, eventbrite.com, $30, May 28th. It's a Thursday night. We're going to have a ball. Oh, we're going to have a ball.

Speaker 6:
[48:23] Ball.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 6:
[48:45] There's a lot of Kelly Dodd drama. Let me tell you, there are things happening behind the scenes, baby. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[48:50] We cannot plead the fifth. Go to eventbrite.com, search Behind The Velvet Rope, search Sarah Fraser Show, or even better yet, the link to the tickets are in our bios on Instagram, on TikTok. Best question voted on by the audience gets over $100 gift bag. It is filled with makeup, with perfumes, with all kinds of goodies. And it's just a fun night. Oh my God, the last one we had at BravoCon, we spilled a bunch of BravoCon tea. This time, it's going to be the same because they'll be filming Real Housewives of New Jersey. Rory will be wrapping up, and we'll probably have some info about the future of Rhobh, and if it's going on, who was? Don't miss it, May 28th, 7 o'clock New York City time.

Speaker 6:
[49:27] And tickets are close to being sold out because of the slave driver Sarah Fraser. She will not allow a big crowd this time. She's still claiming this after pregnancy bullshit. So everyone hurry and get your ticket because six months from now when we have the next one, we can have a big crowd because then she can't use the pregnancy anymore. It's an excuse. But for now, we'll allow it. You got a couple more months before that. Nobody gives a shit. Move on. So I'll see you next show.

Speaker 1:
[49:56] Love you dolls.

Speaker 6:
[49:57] See you soon.

Speaker 5:
[49:57] Bye.

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