title Episode 484 | Ice Breakers

description The ice has thawed, and the guys are here to talk about it! The crew makes some predictions on Iceman, Drake’s press roll out, potential features, and who’s getting dissed. Michael Jackson’s biopic was met with mixed reviews, by both fans and critics, and Ye pays a visit to  The Jewish Human Rights Center in Beverly Hills. Rory discusses the status of his music, and recaps his night at Kehlani’s album release party. Speaking of Kehlani, Bryson Tiller reveals some new insights on his song “Sorrow”, and the guys give some guidance to a caller who needs advice on his first date.
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pubDate Thu, 23 Apr 2026 08:00:00 GMT

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Speaker 1:
[00:35] Get the morale up.

Speaker 2:
[00:35] I'm so excited. Oh man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We are back.

Speaker 3:
[00:43] You think was like clapping for you?

Speaker 2:
[00:45] Yeah, that's what it felt like. When I walk in the room, they start clapping, baby.

Speaker 1:
[00:49] When was the last time that happened?

Speaker 2:
[00:50] Just now.

Speaker 1:
[00:52] But you were already in the room.

Speaker 2:
[00:54] I know, but we waited till the camera started rolling.

Speaker 1:
[00:56] Well, I was getting the morale up.

Speaker 2:
[00:57] Oh, I thought you was clapping for MAL. My bad.

Speaker 1:
[01:01] No.

Speaker 2:
[01:03] Good to see you too, man.

Speaker 1:
[01:04] I'll let you get clapped up, and then...

Speaker 2:
[01:06] No, no, no. We don't want that.

Speaker 1:
[01:07] And then when you walk in, we'll all give you a round of applause.

Speaker 2:
[01:08] What's worse, when the teabag breaks or when the condom breaks?

Speaker 1:
[01:12] Teabag, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[01:14] It's such an inconvenience. Like, you make a good cup of tea, and then you start stirring it and realize all of the fillings, the tea, is just now all in the water. Like, what am I going to do?

Speaker 1:
[01:26] Especially green tea.

Speaker 2:
[01:27] Drink sand?

Speaker 4:
[01:28] It's really bitter.

Speaker 3:
[01:29] You can just filter it out with a strainer. You can't filter out comedia.

Speaker 2:
[01:34] Yes, you can. You can.

Speaker 1:
[01:36] I've had it, yeah. It takes like a week and it's gone. You should take penicillin.

Speaker 2:
[01:41] Filter it out.

Speaker 3:
[01:42] Penicillin is not what you take for comedia.

Speaker 1:
[01:44] Oh, whatever they gave me, I don't know. I thought it was penicillin. This was the night.

Speaker 3:
[01:48] Quindamycin or something like that. Penicillin is for gonorrhea.

Speaker 1:
[01:53] Oh, well, maybe I had gonorrhea.

Speaker 2:
[01:54] You're very informed on this topic.

Speaker 3:
[01:56] I'm allergic to penicillin, so I know what penicillin can and can't care, but I'm allergic to penicillin.

Speaker 2:
[02:02] Good way to clean that up, baby D, I like that.

Speaker 1:
[02:04] It's like that girl that says she's allergic to latex.

Speaker 2:
[02:07] Remember her? Where is she at right now?

Speaker 3:
[02:09] Pregnant.

Speaker 2:
[02:11] Where is she at?

Speaker 1:
[02:12] What, a seventh kid?

Speaker 2:
[02:13] Where is the girl that's like, I'm allergic to that. It irritates me. Where is she at? How is she doing?

Speaker 4:
[02:18] We've been checking on her.

Speaker 1:
[02:19] You're far older than us. You were probably around for lamb skin condoms, right?

Speaker 2:
[02:24] For sure.

Speaker 1:
[02:24] Damaris and I are latex era. What was that like? What does it even feel like?

Speaker 2:
[02:29] I've never used a lamb skin condom in my life. Never. Because I always felt like lamb skin condoms was like.

Speaker 1:
[02:36] Because you're vegan?

Speaker 2:
[02:37] No, I thought it was like the intestines, like the, you know, like chitlins.

Speaker 1:
[02:41] Yeah, no, you're getting in their intestines.

Speaker 2:
[02:42] Yeah. I never was like lamb skin. I was like, I'm cool. Just give me those.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] Do they still sell like lamb skin?

Speaker 2:
[02:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:48] Of course they do.

Speaker 2:
[02:49] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[02:50] I mean, I'm from the.

Speaker 2:
[02:52] For the woman that's allergic.

Speaker 1:
[02:53] NYC subway condom days.

Speaker 3:
[02:55] Oh, they have PrEP for like chlamydia now. You know, they have PrEP for HIV. So like you can take it before you, so that you don't, you're less likely to catch HIV. They have it for chlamydia.

Speaker 2:
[03:07] They're slowly rolling out.

Speaker 1:
[03:07] If you gotta take PrEP for chlamydia, don't fuck that girl, man.

Speaker 3:
[03:11] But it's not just the, it's not like, it's for people to take like regularly, not like just before they go fuck one person. Cause like PrEP is.

Speaker 1:
[03:18] You're a certified hoe. Yeah. No matter what gender you are, if you're taking, if you're fucking that much you need to take PrEP for chlamydia. You're fucking that many strangers.

Speaker 2:
[03:26] Like if you take your vitamin C and your black seed oil and then take your chlamydia PrEP, like, come on, fan. How you living right now?

Speaker 3:
[03:34] Yes, it's called DoxyPEP.

Speaker 2:
[03:36] Doxy?

Speaker 3:
[03:37] DoxyPEP, STD prevention.

Speaker 1:
[03:39] Dox the people that are taking that. We need to identify that.

Speaker 3:
[03:41] Cause the cure for chlamydia is doxycycline.

Speaker 2:
[03:45] Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:
[03:46] I had not cleaned the mice and I had it wrong, but yeah. That's crazy. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:
[03:50] They slowly, they're slowly rolling out the cures while they cook up the new batch of things that will kill us and, you know.

Speaker 1:
[03:59] I'm actually kind of shocked. Well, knock on wood. I'm glad there hasn't just been like new STDs popping up the way there's just like new diseases.

Speaker 2:
[04:07] Oh, it's on the way. Remember Monkeypox?

Speaker 3:
[04:09] I literally just Googled, what happened to Monkeypox?

Speaker 2:
[04:11] Remember that? You were scared to smoke hookah? They had all you in Atlanta scared to smoke hookah. They showed that one picture of that black dude. was like, hell no. I do not want to catch that.

Speaker 1:
[04:27] Yo, hookah being the leader in the spread of Monkeypox is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2:
[04:31] I remember they were saying like people smoke hookah. So, you know, everybody in Atlanta, they eat their French toast and wash it down with hookah. So, they was like, y'all better be careful down in Atlanta with that passing that hookah around.

Speaker 3:
[04:42] They said it so circulates at low levels, a new, more severe strain caused a renewed ongoing emergency in parts of Africa starting in 2024.

Speaker 1:
[04:53] But that's not an STD though, right? Like it didn't come from sex, right?

Speaker 3:
[04:58] No, I think that's just a no.

Speaker 1:
[05:00] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[05:01] Yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of what it is.

Speaker 2:
[05:04] Listen man, just be careful out there and wash your hands. Remember that? Wash your hands, stand six feet away from each other.

Speaker 1:
[05:13] Look what it took to get people to wash their hands.

Speaker 2:
[05:15] Yo, they had us in a blender in 2020, bro. They had us in a complete blender.

Speaker 1:
[05:21] I knew the world was going to shit when washing your hands became trendy for the first time in 2020. And remember in like 2012 when drinking water became trendy?

Speaker 2:
[05:30] Oh yeah, when I just was saying.

Speaker 1:
[05:31] Yo, water being trendy is freaky.

Speaker 2:
[05:35] Yo, drink your water, all right? Like I've been doing that like, fine, all right.

Speaker 1:
[05:41] I was just bragging on Instagram about drinking water. It's like, yo, what have you been doing the last 20 years of your life?

Speaker 2:
[05:46] People are crazy, man. It's crazy times, bro.

Speaker 1:
[05:49] Yeah, well, I'm happy to say I got my prescriptions. I don't know if they work for my physique, but at least I don't have to look like a douchebag and wear sunglasses on a podcast anymore.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[05:58] But these are here to protect my eyes. Maybe I'll find some other styles, but.

Speaker 2:
[06:02] They look good.

Speaker 1:
[06:02] Thanks, man.

Speaker 2:
[06:03] Look a little waspy, but, you know.

Speaker 1:
[06:05] Listen, man.

Speaker 2:
[06:05] Yeah, looks good.

Speaker 3:
[06:06] You could never be an Anglo-Saxon.

Speaker 1:
[06:09] Well, first of all, I'm a devout Catholic, so. I would never fuck with the Protestants like that.

Speaker 3:
[06:15] That's what I said. You could never be a wasp.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] You think you and Northern Ireland can stay the far fuck over there? No, I would. They are a little waspy, though, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[06:23] Like, where are the wasps now? Are they Connecticut? Like, where did the wasps end up?

Speaker 3:
[06:27] Definitely Connecticut, Boston.

Speaker 2:
[06:29] Maine, the Maine area.

Speaker 3:
[06:30] Maine.

Speaker 1:
[06:31] Boston's too blue collar. That's Catholic all day. But yeah, maybe I've never been to Maine. That's on my bucket list.

Speaker 4:
[06:37] Yeah, we got to go to Maine.

Speaker 1:
[06:38] These glasses fit right in.

Speaker 2:
[06:40] Maine is nice. Beautiful, beautiful place. Especially in the fall.

Speaker 1:
[06:44] Anyways, May 15th. I feel like DiMera sells me dinner, but it's cool. We did the prices right.

Speaker 2:
[06:51] What did you say? May 1st?

Speaker 1:
[06:53] I said May 8th.

Speaker 3:
[06:54] Oh, you couldn't go over. I win. Remember, remember we said he couldn't go over.

Speaker 2:
[06:58] He didn't go over.

Speaker 3:
[06:59] He did go over.

Speaker 2:
[07:00] He said May 8th.

Speaker 4:
[07:01] Oh, you're right.

Speaker 3:
[07:03] You're right.

Speaker 2:
[07:04] That Syracuse school system cooked you dinner.

Speaker 3:
[07:07] I mean, we both podcasters.

Speaker 4:
[07:09] They cooked you dinner.

Speaker 2:
[07:11] She said he went over.

Speaker 3:
[07:12] We got the same job.

Speaker 2:
[07:13] I'm like eight, nine, ten. How did he go over?

Speaker 1:
[07:19] Well, I'm happy that we will be getting a Drake album very soon. But listen, man, I had to push my shit back. I was putting out my single and video on May 15th. No fucking way now.

Speaker 2:
[07:29] Oh, really?

Speaker 1:
[07:30] May 15th was my day. It was in the DSP system.

Speaker 2:
[07:33] Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:
[07:33] I called Britt so quick. I said, let's push that to the 24th.

Speaker 2:
[07:36] No, you leave it. Why not? You want to be on DSPs when everybody is downloading the Drake album? No?

Speaker 1:
[07:44] No.

Speaker 2:
[07:44] Why?

Speaker 1:
[07:46] It's going to be Drake day. I don't think that I'm at a level where I would compete to begin with. I'm just saying, everyone is just going to be focused on that. I don't want to put out my narrative script music video on the day that everyone is just listening to Iceman. Put a lot of work into this.

Speaker 2:
[08:04] But why not?

Speaker 1:
[08:05] A lot of money, a lot of hours went into putting this video together. I'm putting it out the day fucking Iceman comes out.

Speaker 4:
[08:13] No, I'm not.

Speaker 2:
[08:15] Yo, put your song out, man.

Speaker 3:
[08:20] Oh, a terrible friend.

Speaker 4:
[08:21] What?

Speaker 3:
[08:22] Day by the tree.

Speaker 1:
[08:23] Put your little tune out.

Speaker 4:
[08:24] Yeah, put your...

Speaker 1:
[08:29] Put that little number out.

Speaker 2:
[08:30] You know why I'm laughing? All right, so what's the new date?

Speaker 1:
[08:33] I'm probably going to do it on the 24th.

Speaker 2:
[08:35] A week later?

Speaker 3:
[08:36] are still listening, actually.

Speaker 1:
[08:37] For sure, but at least it won't be the day of like... That's going to be... Bro, no one's even going to talk about I ran that day.

Speaker 3:
[08:43] Why don't you put out May 8th?

Speaker 1:
[08:45] The only thing people are going to be talking about, whether you love him or hate him, is Drake.

Speaker 3:
[08:48] Why don't you put out May 8th?

Speaker 1:
[08:50] Because the 15th gave me the runway I needed to get everything and put together the plan.

Speaker 2:
[08:58] No, OK. So the 24th.

Speaker 3:
[09:01] Just push it to June, bro.

Speaker 2:
[09:03] Just get out of May's way.

Speaker 1:
[09:07] Maybe just step on the hard drive and never put it off.

Speaker 2:
[09:11] Oh, man.

Speaker 1:
[09:11] You don't think I should do like a Thursday night, midnight premiere with Iceman?

Speaker 4:
[09:16] Yeah, I think that's a great idea.

Speaker 2:
[09:18] Go ahead.

Speaker 5:
[09:19] We see you do that.

Speaker 2:
[09:23] Yo, but I'm laughing.

Speaker 1:
[09:24] They'll be like, hey, I put something out, too.

Speaker 2:
[09:27] I'm laughing because how many artists you think we had something coming May 15th as well, doing the same shit Rory is doing, like, I don't think there's any shame in it. Of course not.

Speaker 1:
[09:36] Artists don't lie about like, what's wrong with saying no, I don't want to drop when the biggest artist is dropping.

Speaker 2:
[09:41] I'm just laughing because it's you. And I just know when you saw that day, you was probably like, you got on the phone so fast. Oh, man. Great times, man.

Speaker 1:
[09:53] I called Aristotle. He was in the editing session for the videos. Why do we have to push?

Speaker 2:
[09:56] I was like, we got time. Take the night off. Take the night off. We don't have to meet that deadline anymore. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[10:05] Yeah, that was fine. On Thursday, you know what? I'll bring like an ice tray out. Yeah. Right out front. We can do a live stream.

Speaker 2:
[10:12] Yeah, so it's all good. But the release date is May 15th for Iceman, the album. One of the streamers, Kishka, is his name?

Speaker 1:
[10:24] Yeah, my first time hearing him, but I'm out the loop.

Speaker 2:
[10:26] Yeah, one streamer, Kishka, he found the bag at the Ice Sculpture in Toronto. He was able to break through some of the ice, get the bag, and then he had to go to Drake's crib and open the bag. And there was a booklet inside and it was a bunch of the little...

Speaker 1:
[10:43] You don't think he took a peek in the crotoms? You think he waited to... He definitely looked at it.

Speaker 2:
[10:49] I don't think he could open them until he got them. I think it was one of those type of bags that was locked. Yeah, I think so, at least that's the way it seemed. But it had a lot of little breadcrumbs in the book, a lot of little, I guess, hidden messages.

Speaker 1:
[11:05] They weren't so hidden. It's just a photo of Sexy Red and Pinocchio in a scope.

Speaker 2:
[11:11] What does it mean?

Speaker 1:
[11:12] You didn't have to overthink that.

Speaker 2:
[11:13] What does it mean?

Speaker 1:
[11:14] Sexy Red's on the album and he's still mad at Kendrick Lamar. Pretty obvious. I don't think we needed...

Speaker 2:
[11:20] Is that what you think?

Speaker 1:
[11:22] I don't think we needed What's the Dirt to break that one down. I think that one is just straight up what it is.

Speaker 2:
[11:30] All right. Well, we got to wait and see who's on the album.

Speaker 1:
[11:32] Or he just likes Sexy Red.

Speaker 2:
[11:33] Yeah. Or it could be like, I'm a rich baby daddy. It could be cold for that. I don't know. No, you don't think so?

Speaker 1:
[11:43] May 15th, man.

Speaker 2:
[11:44] I know. That's what I'm saying, man. I'm just trying to figure out what some of this shit means. He also gave Kishka 50,000 in cash, which is pretty cool. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[11:53] How much money does this guy have? Every time I look up, it's like Drake gifts someone a hundred million dollars. Drake buys streamer 10 billion subscribers.

Speaker 2:
[12:05] Yeah, man. You know, he wants to give back. He's in the giving mood. So he gave the streamer $50,000.

Speaker 1:
[12:10] No, he's in the gambling world where he's trying to get that money off his books. He'll take some of this.

Speaker 2:
[12:17] Just get it out of here. Get it out of here. Get it out of here. Get it out of my house.

Speaker 1:
[12:24] But no, this was a cool rollout. I think it was a really cool social experiment just to see how far we've all come as a society.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] I think it was cool to get people engaged and have all the streamers come out. People were getting haircuts on top of the ice. Somebody shot, somebody created I think a song, like some music out there. Give the fans and the streamers something to just come together collectively and share in that moment.

Speaker 1:
[12:49] I saw some girl tweet, imagine your man ignores your calls because he's chipping away at ice downtown Toronto.

Speaker 2:
[12:58] Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I got to go break that ice, man. Let's go break the ice. It would have been great to have like a speed date out there. Break the ice?

Speaker 1:
[13:04] Yeah. Oh, I see. I see what you're there.

Speaker 2:
[13:06] Listen, this is where I'm here.

Speaker 1:
[13:07] Well, there's still time.

Speaker 2:
[13:09] No, I think they melted. I think they, the fire department tore it down, right? Yeah, I think they tore it down. So it's not there anymore.

Speaker 1:
[13:18] Well, I mean, you could be part of the rollout then, like it could be speed dating with MAL to break the ice. Like that could be part of the official rollout. Like maybe they do it at the embassy, like in the backyard with you and some eligible bachelorettes.

Speaker 2:
[13:33] I think the rollout is done, though. Like we got the date.

Speaker 1:
[13:35] You think it's dead? Yeah. It's like three weeks. You think Drake's gonna be quiet for three weeks? I don't think we get a record. I think we're just gonna get the album, but I definitely think Drake's gonna be doing a lot of rollout shit.

Speaker 2:
[13:47] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[13:48] Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[13:48] What are some of the things you think he'll do?

Speaker 1:
[13:51] I think he'll do a little streamer run. Like interviews? Okay. I do think he had that great idea, which I don't think we're snitching, but a long time ago before COVID, was when he wanted to do that like media day room where he invited everybody and like each person got like 10 minutes to interview. I think he'll do something along those lines again. I can see that, but I just don't see him being quiet for three weeks after the ice sculpture thing.

Speaker 2:
[14:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:16] Do you think we'll get music?

Speaker 2:
[14:18] No.

Speaker 1:
[14:19] I'm on the side of, he's just going to drop the album.

Speaker 2:
[14:21] I think we get another Iceman episode and then the album. This is my guess. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that's, I could see that happening. Because he didn't tie it all the way in the last episode. We got an Iceman, kind of him in the room with the bag. You know what I mean? So it's like, I think that he'll probably tie all of that together and then give us the album.

Speaker 1:
[14:47] Gotcha. Who do you think is going to get the most bars on this? UMG, Cole, Ross? Who's going to be in the line of fire besides the Pinocchio tidbit that he gave us?

Speaker 2:
[15:04] I mean, I'm sure he's going to address, you know, as he should, any of the last two and a half years, what happened, what he's been through, his experience, his life, which is what any artist is supposed to do. If you take some time off in between albums, you know, when you come back, you usually give us an update on what's going on, what you've been doing, life, experiences, moments. So, you know, his last two and a half years has been, you know, kind of, well, no, very publicized as far as, you know, certain things go. But I think we'll get some of that. We'll get some of his feelings and emotions behind certain things that happen, which is what I think an album is supposed to be, right? Supposed to be experiences like what did this artist experience? Tell us what you've been up to. Tell us what you've been doing and things like that.

Speaker 1:
[15:51] So do we think LeBron posts a video on his way to the arena? Bobbin said his own diss record. Bron's getting bars.

Speaker 2:
[16:04] Bars? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:06] He got a whole freestyle.

Speaker 2:
[16:09] Yeah, but I don't think that's... I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, if it's good music, I think LeBron is, you know, he's... If he likes music, he's...

Speaker 1:
[16:18] I think he's a historian. He'll put personal shit aside for the love of the game.

Speaker 2:
[16:22] And he's going to do Iceman Deluxe as well. So, you know that. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think if LeBron does it, he knows it'll be looked at as trolling, just off of their relationship now. No, I get that part, but you know how it's going to come across if we see LeBron in the back of the back and he's bobbing to one of the records on Iceman. It's going to be like, come on, bro.

Speaker 1:
[16:44] I mean, listen, if I got Bars, I'd probably still listen to the record.

Speaker 2:
[16:48] Yeah, of course you would.

Speaker 1:
[16:49] It's good. Yeah. Dance my own diss track.

Speaker 2:
[16:53] Why not? Dance T.O.'s diss track sometimes. It's okay.

Speaker 1:
[16:56] But yeah, do you have any more inside information while we sit here and wait? You said that pretty quick, I didn't like. Did you know the May 15th date when we were doing this bet?

Speaker 3:
[17:07] Yep. That's some whack shit. You could have text me.

Speaker 2:
[17:13] Text you what?

Speaker 3:
[17:14] You could have text me like, what, like now I bet like bet higher. Like you could have.

Speaker 2:
[17:20] Can't do that, man.

Speaker 3:
[17:21] That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[17:23] Well, just let me know when your homegirl is free, for you to take us to dinner.

Speaker 3:
[17:27] Yeah. She's slim right now, but she's free and I definitely got you.

Speaker 2:
[17:32] She's slim.

Speaker 4:
[17:32] I definitely got you.

Speaker 2:
[17:35] She's slim right now, but I definitely got you.

Speaker 1:
[17:37] When is she free?

Speaker 2:
[17:39] She ain't never free.

Speaker 1:
[17:40] Put us in the group chat now.

Speaker 3:
[17:41] Spring, summer.

Speaker 2:
[17:42] When women say that, I'm never free. I make time.

Speaker 3:
[17:45] I make time. I'm never free. I'm very expensive.

Speaker 2:
[17:49] I know that's right.

Speaker 3:
[17:51] Why y'all be hating on women in their photo captions? Shit be getting off.

Speaker 2:
[17:54] I didn't hate. Where did the hate come from over here?

Speaker 1:
[17:57] He put a money bag under that caption.

Speaker 2:
[17:58] Yeah. Me? Hate? Come on now. You know, I'm not hating on no women. You know that. I love it. I love when they put captions like that.

Speaker 1:
[18:06] We can go to your home, girl. Maybe make it easier.

Speaker 3:
[18:10] No, like she's like training for like the marathon.

Speaker 1:
[18:13] Well, she has to eat then. I mean, food is fuel.

Speaker 3:
[18:21] She said food is fuel.

Speaker 2:
[18:24] She has to eat if she's training.

Speaker 3:
[18:25] She has to.

Speaker 2:
[18:27] She can't train and not fuel her body for sure.

Speaker 1:
[18:30] Do you remember when they did the doc on puff running the marathon of how dramatic that was? Like, dog, you're running around the city. They put dramatic music behind an ice bath. Like he was going in for surgery.

Speaker 2:
[18:46] He was, man. He said his toenails fell off.

Speaker 3:
[18:50] Wait, what?

Speaker 2:
[18:51] You remember that?

Speaker 3:
[18:52] I never saw that.

Speaker 2:
[18:53] Yeah, he said his toenails fell off after the race. You know that happens, like when you run long periods of time.

Speaker 3:
[18:59] No, I never ran that long of a period of time that my toenail will fall off.

Speaker 2:
[19:03] Like just constant pounding on the pavement. Yeah, sometimes your toenails, not all of them, but sometimes a toenail will fall off.

Speaker 3:
[19:11] Rory, you did cross country?

Speaker 1:
[19:13] I was a sprinter.

Speaker 3:
[19:15] Oh, but you didn't do cross country at all?

Speaker 2:
[19:16] I told me those fell a little faster.

Speaker 1:
[19:20] Well, actually, the side of my left foot on here got very bad from running.

Speaker 2:
[19:25] Oh, because you ran like...

Speaker 1:
[19:26] Because we were on the curves. I had to, you know, I had to turn. Yeah, you hit the turn, you got to lean into the bobsledder.

Speaker 2:
[19:31] Yeah, you got to lean into that.

Speaker 1:
[19:36] Well, anyways, can someone please explain to me why Stevie Wonder was at a movie screening?

Speaker 3:
[19:41] Mal said to check to make sure the soundtrack was right.

Speaker 1:
[19:43] He's heard the songs before.

Speaker 2:
[19:44] Yeah, but Stevie had to make sure they got it right. To make sure the music was tight.

Speaker 1:
[19:49] No one else found that odd.

Speaker 2:
[19:51] I'm just saying.

Speaker 1:
[19:52] Why is Stevie at the screening?

Speaker 3:
[19:54] Because you can still hear the movie.

Speaker 1:
[19:58] No, for sure. It's a screening.

Speaker 2:
[20:02] He makes a good point.

Speaker 3:
[20:03] No, the movie has dialogue.

Speaker 2:
[20:06] I love Stevie, but I'm just saying, he had to go to the screening.

Speaker 1:
[20:11] I saw Chance post a picture with Stevie. If I ever ran into Stevie, I would definitely want to get a photo as well. It was amazing. But do you think at the after party, like with banter or whatever, anyone was like, Stevie, what you thought of the movie?

Speaker 2:
[20:24] Sounds good. It sounded great.

Speaker 1:
[20:30] The sound design was impeccable.

Speaker 2:
[20:31] Yo, what was this, IMAX?

Speaker 3:
[20:33] Like, this is the... Y'all ain't shit.

Speaker 2:
[20:36] You know, Stevie can hear everything. He's like, yo, one of those speakers is out though. One of the speakers over here was out, but sounded amazing.

Speaker 1:
[20:44] But yeah, I was very jealous of everyone that went to the debut. It looked like a lot of fun. It's been weird. Everyone that's seen it has said it's great, except for actual movie critics. For some reason, it feels like they've all been paid to shit on this movie.

Speaker 3:
[21:00] I don't know about paid to shit on this movie. I don't know about paid to.

Speaker 2:
[21:04] I just, I just don't think people be paid to shit on it.

Speaker 3:
[21:07] Sure, but I don't think Rotten Tomatoes has given it a 27% because someone paid Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 2:
[21:14] Well, it said it's only what 40 or 50 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, so.

Speaker 1:
[21:19] I mean, but either way, like, can it be that?

Speaker 2:
[21:22] That's crazy, though. 27% is crazy on Rotten Tomatoes. That's wild. I wasn't expecting to see that. Like, that's like, I'm going to see it. I don't care what Rotten Tomatoes gave me. Yeah, I'm going to see the movie, but that is kind of like disappointing to see that. Like, damn, like, I hope they got it right, man. I hope that, you know, Rotten Tomatoes is just wrong, or, you know, people just hating. I hope this movie is not terrible. It can't be no worse than what Flex Alexander gave us years ago, his version.

Speaker 1:
[21:54] That was a cult classic.

Speaker 3:
[21:55] You know, for the longest, I really thought that that was just like a sketch, because I never saw the movie. So when I would see like the clips or whatever, I always thought it was like a sketch, like the jokes. I didn't know that people were serious about that.

Speaker 1:
[22:06] I still don't know if they were serious about it.

Speaker 2:
[22:08] You have to watch that movie. Like, you have to. It's one of those where it's like just watch it. Like, it's terrible, but you have to be able to say, yeah, I saw that movie. That shit is terrible. And this movie can't be no worse than that.

Speaker 1:
[22:23] That's probably, yeah, it's probably number one worse.

Speaker 2:
[22:26] It is the worst Michael Jackson shit we've ever had.

Speaker 1:
[22:28] I'm just thinking of Biopic's period. The Aaliyah one was rough. That was on, what was that? FX did that?

Speaker 3:
[22:35] It might have been Lifetime.

Speaker 1:
[22:36] Lifetime was Lifetime. That one was really rough.

Speaker 3:
[22:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:39] Like really rough.

Speaker 3:
[22:41] Every Whitney one is bad.

Speaker 1:
[22:43] True.

Speaker 3:
[22:43] They have not had a good Whitney one ever.

Speaker 1:
[22:46] Yeah. I mean, they nailed TLC, I felt like.

Speaker 2:
[22:48] Didn't somebody just do the Whitney one? Or was the Whitney movie coming out?

Speaker 3:
[22:53] They did a Whitney movie. They've done multiple Whitney movies.

Speaker 1:
[22:56] The newest one, I think, is the best one, though. Yeah, well, the ones before that were.

Speaker 2:
[22:59] When did that one come out? The last one?

Speaker 1:
[23:00] I think last year, two years ago.

Speaker 2:
[23:02] I haven't seen that one yet. That one?

Speaker 1:
[23:04] Yeah, 2022. I mean, the trailer looked all right, but.

Speaker 2:
[23:09] What did the Rotten Tomatoes give that? 43? Shit.

Speaker 1:
[23:13] Yeah. Well, yeah, I think they nailed TLC was great, even though they were drinking Siroc in 1995.

Speaker 2:
[23:21] The best one is the Jackson story.

Speaker 1:
[23:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:24] Jackson's an American.

Speaker 2:
[23:26] American Dream. That's probably the best one we've got.

Speaker 3:
[23:28] But that's not a movie, technically. So technically a TV show.

Speaker 2:
[23:31] It was a series, yeah, a bunch of episodes.

Speaker 1:
[23:33] You know, Quiet is Kept, they nailed the new edition one. That shit is phenomenal.

Speaker 2:
[23:38] That was incredible. The new edition one was incredible.

Speaker 1:
[23:41] That was really, really good. I may have preferred that style with a Michael Jackson thing because there's just so much to cover. I feel like you need four or five hours to do that.

Speaker 3:
[23:51] They said this movie stops in the early 80s or stops in the mid 80s.

Speaker 2:
[23:56] But they're doing a part two, correct?

Speaker 3:
[23:58] Yeah, that's what they had said they were going to do.

Speaker 2:
[24:01] They said they're doing a part two.

Speaker 3:
[24:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:04] Not if Rotten Tomatoes is anything to say for it.

Speaker 2:
[24:06] Yeah, I'm going to go see it though. I just, you know, I'm hoping that they got it right. I mean, the cast looks great. I mean, his nephew Jafar, he looked like he, you know, obviously spent hours studying his uncle and trying to get all the moves and the mannerisms together. So, I mean, you know, the attention to detail is there. I just don't know why it's gotten 27 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. That scares me, like, what did y'all see in that premiere that got y'all at 27 percent? Like, what did y'all walk out of this in? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:37] Yeah, I mean, again, like we talked last episode, you kind of can't win for losing on this because it's Mike. Like, no matter what, is it really going to meet the standards that we think of with Mike?

Speaker 2:
[24:51] It's just such an iconic figure that you can't, it's tough to cover that, what is this, two hours and 20 minutes to movie? Something like that. It's tough to cover such an icon and what they've done. I mean, Michael Jackson is probably, no, Michael Jackson is the biggest icon ever. Like, there's no doubt about that. So, when you, you know, two hours and 20 minutes to kind of tell that story, some things are not going to be in there, some things are going to be, you want them to spend more time on certain aspects or certain moments in his life, two hours and 20 minutes is just not, it's not going to cover that.

Speaker 1:
[25:26] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:27] So, I mean, I, that's why I would like a series, how they did an American Dream, but the Jackson story to me would probably do it more, just because you have time to kind of go through the 70s and the 80s and the 90s and then the early 2000s. Like you have time to kind of go through, what's that, three, almost four decades, like, you know, so. Yeah, I don't know, two hours and 20 minutes, trying to tell a Michael Jackson story. Yeah, I don't know if that's enough time.

Speaker 1:
[25:55] Yeah, there was criticism that it didn't cover the allegations, but Demaris, if you're saying it ends in like the 80s for part one.

Speaker 2:
[26:02] Oh yeah, then.

Speaker 1:
[26:02] Wow, like that would not be a focal point at all.

Speaker 2:
[26:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:06] In that regard. And also like, I think it should be covered, but I don't, I don't feel like that should be the focus. Then just make the fucking Michael Jackson allegation movie. Like, yeah, it was a big part of his career, but just focusing on that, I think does it injustice. Like now we're just doing a crime doc at this point.

Speaker 2:
[26:26] I mean, if they're going to focus on that part, or they're going to cover that part in the movie, I would love for them obviously to lean on the family that was around him to know what Michael was saying in those moments and, you know, his emotions and his feelings and, you know, the conversations. Like if they are willing to, you know, obviously expose some of those moments with the public, that would be the only time I would want them to get into that. Like tell me that, you know, this is what Jermaine said and this is what, you know, his brother said, this is what Janet said he was saying and feeling like, don't just put something in the movie and be like, yo, we kind of guessed this is how he felt in that moment. Like, no, no, no, no, if you're going to get into that and y'all going to give us that, let it come from the family and then have them sit with the writers and then put it in the movie. If not, just skip right over that shit.

Speaker 1:
[27:15] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, either way, definitely dedicating my weekend to getting a ticket.

Speaker 2:
[27:20] Definitely.

Speaker 1:
[27:21] Even if I just go by myself.

Speaker 2:
[27:22] You're going to wear some loafers, hot waters.

Speaker 1:
[27:25] I'd do that.

Speaker 2:
[27:25] Yeah, you got to throw on the loafers, man.

Speaker 1:
[27:27] Yes. Wale had the fit down hat. That was, I was also jealous of everyone that went to the premiere because like, you got to dress like Michael. That's just a fun thing to do, not on Halloween.

Speaker 2:
[27:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:38] Of 30 of your friends all dressed like Michael Jackson. Now Wale nailed that shit. Pause. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I'll throw on some loafers and white socks.

Speaker 2:
[27:49] You got to.

Speaker 1:
[27:50] Yeah, go look.

Speaker 2:
[27:52] Try to hit a moonwalk and put the glitter socks on, man. I heard they're selling merch at Select theaters, I think, of the movie. So you definitely got to get some of that.

Speaker 1:
[28:01] Yeah, we definitely need the Kith Michael Jackson collab.

Speaker 2:
[28:03] No, no, no, no, no. I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[28:05] No, I need that.

Speaker 1:
[28:06] You don't want the Ronnie Lovers?

Speaker 2:
[28:08] No, no, no, no. I don't want Kith Michael Jackson. I don't want...

Speaker 4:
[28:14] That shit would be fire.

Speaker 2:
[28:16] No, it would not.

Speaker 1:
[28:17] Listen, I thought the same thing when they announced the Sopranos Kith shit, and I wanted some of that Sopranos shit.

Speaker 2:
[28:24] Yeah, but the Sopranos and Michael Jackson? Come on, man. I don't want to see Michael Kith. I don't want to see Michael Kith.

Speaker 1:
[28:33] Have they ever done Mike Tyson's collab?

Speaker 2:
[28:35] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[28:37] PJ, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:40] I don't remember that one if they did.

Speaker 3:
[28:42] Now, Kith.

Speaker 2:
[28:44] No, that wasn't, that was.

Speaker 3:
[28:46] That was not an official Kith term.

Speaker 2:
[28:47] That wasn't an official Kith. They were saying now Kith. But if Kith was, they should have snatched that.

Speaker 1:
[28:57] Word. No, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[28:59] They definitely should have snatched that.

Speaker 1:
[29:01] But you couldn't see Kith doing like the Michael hat or a glove. Come on. You know, Ah-Mae does the driving glove. They got to do the Michael glove.

Speaker 2:
[29:09] Nah. I don't want that, man. Leave that alone.

Speaker 3:
[29:12] A lot of people won't because of the allegations. They won't touch stuff like that.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] That's not real. Look at the pants. Look at the pants.

Speaker 1:
[29:19] Kids dig into Michael's pants for a salty treat.

Speaker 2:
[29:24] Come on, man. See what I'm saying? You see how they disrespect the legend? Look how they do us. Look. What is like? Come on, man. Who did that? Come on, man. This shit is out of control, man. This shit is out of control.

Speaker 1:
[29:37] No, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2:
[29:39] That's. Look at this, man.

Speaker 1:
[29:43] Is Neverland Ranch still, I don't want to say operating, but does the estate own it? Whatever happened? Are the rides still?

Speaker 3:
[29:51] The rides are not writing, I don't think.

Speaker 2:
[29:53] It's still. You mean is it still there? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:56] They should have done the premiere there. In the backyard. They could do the Ferris wheel and then watch the movie.

Speaker 2:
[30:03] The Neverland Ranch is not open to the public as a theme park or museum. It was purchased by billionaire Ron Burkle in 2020 for 22 million. It is now a private estate known as Sycamore Valley Ranch.

Speaker 1:
[30:14] You can't just rename Neverland Ranch.

Speaker 2:
[30:17] The property was recently restored for filming the 2025 Michael Jackson biopic, Michael. So yeah, they obviously filmed some of it there.

Speaker 1:
[30:24] Obviously, 22 million is a lot of money, but that's not low to buy Neverland Ranch.

Speaker 3:
[30:31] I don't think so. Because like, what are you going to do with it? Like, okay, I bought it.

Speaker 1:
[30:36] But like Michael Jackson's house.

Speaker 3:
[30:38] That's fine.

Speaker 2:
[30:40] That's a stack. you pull up to my game, like you know this is Michael Jack. Man, you know how crazy that is that I bought Michael Jackson's house? That's fucking crazy. This was Neverland Ranch. What? That is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[30:58] I mean, despite the bad press, it still is a very legendary place.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:02] Definitely had some PR problems, but other than that, it's a monument.

Speaker 2:
[31:07] Is Graceland still a museum?

Speaker 1:
[31:10] I think so, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[31:11] Oh, that's real?

Speaker 2:
[31:13] Yeah, well, that was his house, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:14] You just thought Paradise made that up?

Speaker 3:
[31:15] I saw it in Paradise. Yeah, I didn't know it was real.

Speaker 2:
[31:19] Hell yeah, that's real.

Speaker 1:
[31:21] Have you been to the Motown House in Detroit?

Speaker 2:
[31:23] Yeah, that was dope. That was really dope.

Speaker 1:
[31:26] Well, yeah, I'm shocked that they haven't tried to make Neverland Ranch something. I mean, I guess because the allegations, but wouldn't that be a place for a museum?

Speaker 2:
[31:35] Hell yeah. The Motown House was fired, or walking through those different rooms, and that being a room where the Jacksons, and Marvin Gaye, and Stevie Wonder, like seeing all of that, and it's still being like, I mean, it was one room that they took us to, it still had the hole in the ceiling, and they used that because the, they never covered it because the acoustics just sounded better when they was recording there. And I'm telling you, Diana Ross and the Supremes recorded, like you standing in this room where all of this legendary black music was created. This thing, I don't know, and then there's some people that live in Detroit that have never been there. I'm like, how the fuck have y'all never been to this? I'll probably go there every month, like just to like, I've been twice. That's what I'm saying. Like that shit is just some incredible, like this shit is right here in your city, like, and you've never gone? Crazy, if you get a chance to go, you definitely gotta go see the Motowns.

Speaker 1:
[32:25] Have you ever been up in the Empire State Building?

Speaker 2:
[32:27] Yeah, I mean, as a kid, but that was like a school trip.

Speaker 1:
[32:31] I've done Statue of Liberty once with a school trip, and that's the only time. I've never been up in the Empire State Building.

Speaker 2:
[32:36] Yeah, but the Empire State Building and the Motown.

Speaker 1:
[32:38] I'm just trying to think of iconic things in your city. It's not.

Speaker 2:
[32:41] No, but this is Motown. This is like, are you kidding? Michael Jackson recorded here, bro. What are we talking about? How do you not go there?

Speaker 1:
[32:48] No, it puts things in perspective when you go there. Like what the fuck was in the water? Like that all these people ended up in this house. It's absolutely insane.

Speaker 2:
[32:56] We've never seen nothing like it probably since. No. I'm talking about a label had-

Speaker 1:
[33:00] Hell no. Next to Motown? No, it's Motown and then everybody else.

Speaker 2:
[33:04] Yeah, incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:06] But yeah, Demarish, you should definitely go. You would really enjoy it. That's definitely a must in Detroit after Jet's Pizza and Sweet Water Wings and Women.

Speaker 6:
[33:18] You can't show.

Speaker 1:
[33:19] Listen, man, just try this great women. What can I tell you?

Speaker 2:
[33:22] Absolutely.

Speaker 6:
[33:23] No, Rory and MAL.

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Speaker 1:
[34:07] Shout out to Kanye. He really wants to do wireless.

Speaker 2:
[34:10] Yo, why are they doing this today? He already sat down with the rabbi earlier, but late last year.

Speaker 1:
[34:18] With an interpreter, which he didn't really know what was being communicated.

Speaker 2:
[34:22] So Kanye was leaving a Jewish Human Rights Center. This was after he was banned from entering the UK, when he was announced to do a wireless festival. So he had to go to the Jewish Human Rights Center, have a meeting that was part of the agreement. If he agreed to not do wireless this year, and sit down, you know, and talk to, I guess, whoever was in the Jewish Human Rights Center with Kanye, just to have a meeting and I guess kind of like work on, you know, some of the relationships that he may have ruined or people he may have offended with some of his rants and things he's said over the past few years. I guess this was the start of it. This is the start of him, like, you know.

Speaker 1:
[35:07] I know he's thinking, damn, Kyrie got off easy. All he had to do was some homework.

Speaker 2:
[35:12] Which was crazy. Like, all Kyrie did was repost a picture of a documentary. He didn't say nothing. He just reposted a documentary. They was like, yo, suspended.

Speaker 1:
[35:23] What? But I know this is what everyone has to do after they say hateful things.

Speaker 2:
[35:29] Nah, like, nah.

Speaker 1:
[35:33] Anytime I've heard anyone say something hateful towards another group of people, they have to do this. This is crazy. They're also not allowed in France.

Speaker 2:
[35:40] Did you see Kyrie, how he was walking out of there? He definitely was walking out of there like, some, I'm going to go to sit down and talk this. He didn't look like he was pissed the fuck off. Like, he didn't, look at him.

Speaker 4:
[35:51] Hey, can I ask you, what happened in this class?

Speaker 2:
[35:54] He didn't come out smiling like, that was a productive talk. You know, everything is cool, you know, like...

Speaker 1:
[35:59] Well, he understands he was wrong now.

Speaker 2:
[36:00] Yeah, well, now he gets it.

Speaker 1:
[36:01] Puts it in perspective and understands that what he did was wrong.

Speaker 2:
[36:04] This does nothing but this adds to the allure of Kanye. This is not hurting Kanye in any shape, form or fashion. Like, I don't know if people, like, this is just adding... Who saw my Mystique the other day, was it Damaris? This adds to the Mystique, even though there's no Mystique to Kanye, because he'll get out, he'll tell you every fucking thing. But this just adds to that.

Speaker 1:
[36:25] We even knew who his doctor was.

Speaker 2:
[36:26] Yeah, like this just adds to Ye. Like, this is not, yo, I was banned from the... That's a flex for Kanye. I'm banned from the UK.

Speaker 1:
[36:35] He got one of the most popular music festivals, period, canceled because he couldn't go. They're just not doing it. They're just literally not doing the festival. You know what insane that is?

Speaker 2:
[36:45] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[36:45] If one day was like, you know what? We just, no Coachella next month. That's like, what?

Speaker 2:
[36:49] Because we can't have you perform.

Speaker 1:
[36:51] That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[36:52] That's a flex. That's a flex. I know Kanye really wants, obviously, he really wants to do wireless, but...

Speaker 1:
[36:59] And there was the other, I think it was another show in France that they said he wasn't allowed. And, you know, he realized he has to backtrack a bit. He can't even travel.

Speaker 2:
[37:09] Yeah, but if we know Kanye the way we think we know Kanye, when he finally does get on that wireless stage, because once he's there, he's there.

Speaker 3:
[37:17] Listen, I don't think he's trying to do anything to get back to wireless is not happening. Like, you can't cancel a festival and be like, oh, actually, guys, they unban Kanye, we're going to go back and throw it on.

Speaker 1:
[37:28] I could see that happening.

Speaker 2:
[37:29] Not this year.

Speaker 3:
[37:30] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[37:31] Not this year. I don't think they'll do that this year. Next year, they're going to do wireless and Kanye will be headlining. And when he gets on that stage, he's going to burn it all down. He's going to get on that stage and burn it all down.

Speaker 1:
[37:47] As much as I do make the jokes about they're not, this is the only group of people that you have to do this for, in their defense, we have to remember, Kanye had an iced out swastika chain. Like he was doing a lot.

Speaker 2:
[37:59] No, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[38:00] He went crazy.

Speaker 2:
[38:02] He was going in.

Speaker 1:
[38:05] You have to take a little bit of a time out, I think, after you ice out a swastika and wear it. Like maybe there should be a little bit of a 15 minute time out.

Speaker 2:
[38:12] What was the name of the song?

Speaker 1:
[38:13] It was called Al Hitler.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] I feel like it was another one though he had put out.

Speaker 1:
[38:18] We're forgetting the other anti-Semitic songs.

Speaker 4:
[38:20] He had that many anti-Semitic songs.

Speaker 2:
[38:23] He went on a run. He went on a run. Yeah, I'm never getting my boots, man. I'm never getting my boots.

Speaker 3:
[38:30] Yeah, you can hang that up flat screen.

Speaker 2:
[38:33] Yo, pull up the boots that he was putting out. Hey man, I wanted those, man. The $20 joints.

Speaker 3:
[38:41] Yo, when Kanye put all his merch at $20, fire. Them wet t-shirts wouldn't play.

Speaker 2:
[38:46] Those right there on the bottom left.

Speaker 1:
[38:49] Right, those.

Speaker 3:
[38:50] Oh, those are kind of hard.

Speaker 2:
[38:51] Yeah, I wanted those, man.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] Man, John Elliott got some shit just like that.

Speaker 2:
[38:56] Yeah, but I just wanted to see how comfortable they were. Whatever, $20, fuck it.

Speaker 1:
[39:03] What kind of thoughts you had once you strapped them on?

Speaker 2:
[39:05] Yeah, just wanted to see, man. Just wanted to see what it made me feel like. You know what I'm saying? Fucking Kanye, keep my $20, man. It's all good.

Speaker 1:
[39:13] But you have to, like, did anyone ask what jeweler made the iced out swastika?

Speaker 2:
[39:19] Yeah, that's a whole nother.

Speaker 1:
[39:20] And I'm not here to say that there's a large group of people that are in the jewelry industry.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] No, that's exactly what you're here to say.

Speaker 1:
[39:26] Because it's like Ben Baller and then them.

Speaker 4:
[39:31] Who made the iced out swastika?

Speaker 1:
[39:34] And why was top five wearing it?

Speaker 2:
[39:39] Yo, it was some wild shit going on.

Speaker 1:
[39:41] It's a simulation, bro.

Speaker 2:
[39:42] It was some wild shit going on, man.

Speaker 1:
[39:46] But I actually do see a world where if this apology does work, cause wireless is what, usually July?

Speaker 2:
[39:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:55] They sold out in like a day. They could, I could see them like in June saying, yo, it's back on. I could see that.

Speaker 2:
[40:02] Think so?

Speaker 1:
[40:03] Yeah. Especially if there's like some, you know, anti-Semitic awareness, sponsorship, like, you know how they put like end racism in the end zone? Like they could, if that's part of the set, I could see them doing that.

Speaker 3:
[40:15] Well, no, because you have to book so many, all of those artists, you have to book them out way in advance. Once you cancel, they make other arrangements.

Speaker 2:
[40:22] Oh, what artists?

Speaker 1:
[40:23] I'm telling you, if it's three days of Kanye West. Why was it the festival?

Speaker 3:
[40:25] It's not just him.

Speaker 2:
[40:26] It was going to be just Kanye. Who you talking about?

Speaker 1:
[40:29] They didn't announce any other people.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] That's how Drake had it last year for three days?

Speaker 1:
[40:34] It was Drake in summer, right? It was only two. I think it was only two artists. No, it's not like...

Speaker 2:
[40:40] Drake brought people out. Different days, it was a different... Like different sounds.

Speaker 3:
[40:45] You know, Wireless Festival features around 50 artists performing across three days. Like, it just, they have headliners, sure. And somebody can headline three days in a row, but while people are waiting for the headliner, there's other concerts going on.

Speaker 1:
[41:00] Yeah, this, it had, Drake, Uzi, Lil Sim, Sanfa. Georgia Smith was there? That must have been awkward. But yeah, I mean, either way, I don't think they announced all the other acts though. I think they just announced Kanye at that point and not the other ones, but I still feel like if they do a last minute wireless, you could just have Kanye West for three days. That's why it's sold out. You don't think they could just do a Kanye West performance three days in a row.

Speaker 3:
[41:31] Hell yeah they can. It's a music fest, a festival all day. No one's like.

Speaker 1:
[41:36] Well, put a Ferris wheel in a hot dog stand and call it a fucking festival. Like that's all the festival is now. They just put a fucking Ferris wheel in it.

Speaker 3:
[41:44] Well, yeah, of course, Kanye fans will swarm to do that, but it's a music festival. That's like Coachella, but just Bieber's performing.

Speaker 1:
[41:50] Due to the circumstances, if I'm running wireless, I would be like, well, that's a fair pivot that we have to do. It was just Kanye West.

Speaker 2:
[41:58] You're asking the wrong questions. You're asking the wrong questions. Will Pepsi be a sponsor again?

Speaker 1:
[42:06] They will, they don't stand for that type of talk. So no, of course not. Well, unless Pepsi deems that he's learned his lesson. I'm sure Pepsi was a static and more forgiving once he was at the Jewish Human Rights Center.

Speaker 2:
[42:18] Got it, okay. So, you know, well, we shall see. I don't think it happened this year, but I mean, they got some time between now and July to get it together.

Speaker 3:
[42:27] I just want to let all the listeners know that MAL did indeed give me my birthday gift. So, that's how I know that. Cause I'll always be telling everybody how you don't be giving me shit or doing-

Speaker 2:
[42:38] I know, you try to paint me like that guy.

Speaker 3:
[42:40] I mean, but-

Speaker 2:
[42:41] Nah, I ain't know how I mean.

Speaker 3:
[42:43] You know how when your boyfriend cheat, you got your boyfriend cheating 15 times and the one time he like, no, I really was home. He like, see all the mother times. No, nigga, it's one time.

Speaker 2:
[42:52] Nah, but you can only judge me off my latest.

Speaker 1:
[42:54] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[42:56] What's my latest?

Speaker 1:
[42:58] Showing up.

Speaker 2:
[42:59] Birthday gift, right? Right? Right or wrong? Okay. Damn, they don't know-

Speaker 1:
[43:05] So, you know some bullshit, right or wrong?

Speaker 2:
[43:07] Right or wrong.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] Yes or yes?

Speaker 2:
[43:09] Yo, right? I'm just saying, right? Didn't I give you your birthday gift?

Speaker 3:
[43:12] You did.

Speaker 2:
[43:12] All right then, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[43:14] What was the gift?

Speaker 3:
[43:15] Spa Day.

Speaker 1:
[43:16] Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 2:
[43:16] Okay. See? She said I wasn't going to give her a spa day. She came ahead trying to curse me out. When she told me she was going to look for it and then find the spot she wanted to go to, she still cursed me out. So then she finally went online and looked for it.

Speaker 1:
[43:32] Okay. So you picked it. Cause I would say MAL just got you a fucking rub and tug gift certificate for across the street.

Speaker 2:
[43:37] I told her to pick where she wanted to go.

Speaker 3:
[43:39] I got some nice shit coming up. I'ma vlog it. Well, I can't really vlog cause they don't allow cameras in there, but.

Speaker 1:
[43:44] Well, if you want to clear your debt with me, I'm fine with you re-gifting that to me instead of the dinner with your friend. Just pay it forward.

Speaker 2:
[43:51] What's her debt?

Speaker 1:
[43:52] She owes me dinner with her, with her bestie. The Drake bet.

Speaker 2:
[43:56] Oh, because you were closer?

Speaker 1:
[43:57] So yeah, if you just want to, you know, re-gift.

Speaker 3:
[44:00] No, I'm cool. I really am.

Speaker 1:
[44:02] But I have a birthday coming up too.

Speaker 3:
[44:03] I need the stress relief.

Speaker 2:
[44:04] She'll use the stress relief.

Speaker 3:
[44:05] A man's saying to me, I have a birthday coming up, just eww. I didn't like that.

Speaker 2:
[44:10] But he does have a birthday coming up.

Speaker 1:
[44:12] You see how I crossed out Aries season and put Taurus season?

Speaker 2:
[44:14] He was born too.

Speaker 3:
[44:14] I didn't see that.

Speaker 2:
[44:15] He was born.

Speaker 1:
[44:16] Yeah, I was born.

Speaker 2:
[44:19] No gift for Rory?

Speaker 3:
[44:19] No.

Speaker 1:
[44:21] Don't get me a spa certificate. That do weird things to our relationship.

Speaker 2:
[44:25] I can't send you to the spa? No.

Speaker 3:
[44:27] Why?

Speaker 2:
[44:29] You've been looking a little tense right here.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] I definitely am. You can buy it, but give it to Damaris and then Damaris can give it to me. There needs to be a woman buffer in between a man's spa.

Speaker 2:
[44:39] There needs to be some space in between the intimacy.

Speaker 3:
[44:41] I feel like that's fine. It isn't like he say, yo, we don't do the couple's massage.

Speaker 2:
[44:47] Fam, let me tell you something. If a dude was to ever feel like, yo, I got us a spa day, like my homeboy, what you mean you got us a spa day? Nah, we're going together. We're not friends no more. Like, man, it gives us like, Fam, I think you, if my homeboy gives me a spa day and he coming with me, what you doing? You're not coming with me to no spa.

Speaker 3:
[45:07] Y'all both like stressed. What? Y'all both stressed.

Speaker 2:
[45:11] Fam, you know, your homeboy is, two men cannot go to the spa together, but that's not, life is not designed that way.

Speaker 1:
[45:16] You don't remember when we were in Toronto and someone on our staff hit the group chat and said, do y'all want to go to the sauna?

Speaker 2:
[45:23] What is that?

Speaker 1:
[45:24] In a group chat of only men.

Speaker 2:
[45:26] No, do I have to respond to this?

Speaker 1:
[45:28] If your fellow is on three, there's a steam room if you want to go link.

Speaker 2:
[45:31] No, I don't want to go to the steam room with you. Like, no, the other day I asked Peej, I ordered something on Uber Eats and I was getting ready to leave and then the order came, soon as I was ready to leave. So I'm like, yo Peej, like damn, I was going to go downstairs and wait for him downstairs, but he got here, he arrived earlier than I expected. So I say, yo Peej, is it wild if I take the elevator back down with him? Like he brought the delivery up, I take it out of his hand and get in the elevator and we ride back down. I say, yo Peej, is this crazy? He was like, yeah, that's crazy. So I had to wait, I waited for him to leave. And then I took the elevator down after he was gone. It's just certain things men can't do. I can't ride the elevator with the Uber Eats guy.

Speaker 7:
[46:15] I can't.

Speaker 1:
[46:18] That would be, he just bought me my food.

Speaker 2:
[46:20] Yeah, he just picked up my food and brought it to me. And I'm taking the elevator with him.

Speaker 1:
[46:24] What would be crazier is if you made him still hold the bag while you guys went.

Speaker 3:
[46:28] Now hold it, like if you open the elevator and said, now hold that.

Speaker 1:
[46:32] I'm kidding.

Speaker 4:
[46:34] Give it to me outside.

Speaker 2:
[46:39] Oh man, shout out to all the Uber Eats delivery people, man. Those are our first responders right there.

Speaker 1:
[46:45] Absolutely. We were talking on the phone. I think with my spare time, I just want to do Uber like for social experiments. Like just to get to know, I'm not outside like that anymore. Like I need to get to know people.

Speaker 3:
[46:56] You would be the most annoying fucking Uber driver.

Speaker 2:
[47:00] Uber driver? Wait, wait. Uber driver or Uber Eats?

Speaker 1:
[47:04] Uber driver.

Speaker 2:
[47:06] Nah, hell nah. I could do Uber Eats. I could do that. I could go pick up food and drop it off. I could do that. No problem. Picking people up and driving them around and like conversating. No, I can't do that.

Speaker 1:
[47:16] Well, I mean, I would necessarily like talk to everyone, but just like the things like I would want to do it on a Saturday night at like 1 a.m. Like just to see the people that come in.

Speaker 2:
[47:27] You want to do taxi cab confessions. That's not even a problem. You try to get this taxi cab confession.

Speaker 1:
[47:32] You don't think that would just be interesting in the city at 1 a.m.?

Speaker 2:
[47:35] Until somebody throw up in your backseat. Yeah. Yeah, then you tight. See, it's different when it's a Morris throw up. When it's Mandy's throw up. Then you mad, like, then you gonna be...

Speaker 1:
[47:46] Like the Mandy we know.

Speaker 2:
[47:47] Yeah. That would be crazy.

Speaker 3:
[47:51] Shout out to Mandy. Did you guys see her get her dance from Spectacular?

Speaker 2:
[47:55] From who?

Speaker 3:
[47:56] Spectacular from Pretty Ricky.

Speaker 2:
[47:58] Oh, she got a dance from him?

Speaker 3:
[48:00] Like a lot.

Speaker 1:
[48:00] I never knew all of them at first name.

Speaker 2:
[48:02] I've never, yeah, I never knew.

Speaker 1:
[48:03] Pleasure P and probably as far as it went.

Speaker 2:
[48:05] Yeah, I just call all of them Pretty Ricky.

Speaker 3:
[48:08] All of them is Ricky?

Speaker 2:
[48:09] All of them is Ricky.

Speaker 3:
[48:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:11] So Mandy got a dance from him?

Speaker 3:
[48:13] I'll send Ryan a link. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They did like a sexy.

Speaker 1:
[48:21] Is he spitting in her mouth?

Speaker 3:
[48:22] Yeah. Well, it's honey. She said it was honey. He put honey in his mouth and spit it in her mouth.

Speaker 2:
[48:27] Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Speaker 1:
[48:31] Wait, wait. Why did no one inform me that my friend participated in this? Mandy, what's this man's name?

Speaker 2:
[48:41] Mandy let's spectacular spit honey in her mouth?

Speaker 3:
[48:46] Yeah. He was grinding on her and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[48:48] Where is this?

Speaker 3:
[48:51] The Millennium is tour they're doing now. Bow Wow is on tour right now.

Speaker 1:
[48:55] And all the members of Pretty Ricky are a part of this?

Speaker 3:
[48:57] If I'm not mistaken, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:00] Nah, Mandy Trippin.

Speaker 3:
[49:01] Boys for Life Tour would be 2K.

Speaker 2:
[49:03] Mandy Trippin.

Speaker 3:
[49:05] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[49:06] That being her one less lonely girl moment, that's the one less lonely freak shit at the Pretty Ricky.

Speaker 3:
[49:12] She said middle school me manifested this.

Speaker 2:
[49:15] To have spectacular spit in her mouth.

Speaker 1:
[49:21] We all have dreams.

Speaker 2:
[49:22] No, we do. That's a fact. We all dream. Some of us hit that rim sleep and really, you know what I mean, get some good sleep.

Speaker 1:
[49:27] Did they talk about that before? That's a bold move to spit honey in a stranger's mouth on stage.

Speaker 3:
[49:33] Well, I think that's what he does, though.

Speaker 1:
[49:36] Everyone knows when they go up on that stage.

Speaker 3:
[49:37] Yeah, it's like the Chris Brown thing, like you're going to be on the chair, you know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1:
[49:40] That sounds like your victim.

Speaker 2:
[49:41] So hold on, Spectacular is going city to city, spitting in women's mouths.

Speaker 3:
[49:45] I think, yeah, I think he's done the honey thing most of the time.

Speaker 1:
[49:47] He needs that chlamydia prep for sure.

Speaker 2:
[49:50] This niggas going state to state, spitting in women's mouths. Yo, women are so fucking dumb at times, bro. Why don't y'all just admit it? Like, who is signing up for this shit? Who's going to the show like, nah, I'm going to let Spectacular spitting in my mouth tonight. Usher got the cherries, right? Very like, you know, playful, you know, okay, cool. The girl wants to have fun with her tongue and the cherry. That's on her, but Usher's just, cherry in the mouth. Chris, he likes to dance, right? Go up there, give a little dance. Cool, you know what I mean? A little clown in here.

Speaker 1:
[50:27] Goes a little extra when Caelan calls up there.

Speaker 2:
[50:28] He gets a little close, he might give a little-

Speaker 1:
[50:30] Depends who's up there.

Speaker 2:
[50:31] He might give a little peck on the lip. You know what I'm saying? Cool. Spectacular was at home the whole time.

Speaker 4:
[50:36] Like these-

Speaker 1:
[50:37] Hold my beer.

Speaker 2:
[50:38] Yeah, these ain't doing it, right? I'ma spit in 47 mouths.

Speaker 4:
[50:44] How many shows these keep?

Speaker 3:
[50:47] Let me know. I don't know if he's doing it to everybody, but there's no way-

Speaker 4:
[50:51] So he only did it to many ideas, Chris. I don't know which one is worse.

Speaker 3:
[50:53] That's what I'm saying. I don't know which one is worse.

Speaker 1:
[50:56] How many bodies is he spitting honey in your mouth?

Speaker 2:
[50:59] No, we got to find out.

Speaker 1:
[51:00] That's 15 bodies, easy.

Speaker 2:
[51:01] Yo, if Manny was the first one, yo, that's crazy. You can't let Spectaculous, is his name? You can't let him spit in your mouth, man. You can't let no name Spectaculous spit in your mouth. That sound like a male stripper.

Speaker 1:
[51:15] You know how mad everyone in that green room probably is anytime they're about to get some tea? Like, yo, who took the fucking honey?

Speaker 2:
[51:21] Spectaculous.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] John Thomas in Spectaculous pocket.

Speaker 2:
[51:23] And you know he had it in his mouth for like two songs because he ain't had it. It wasn't, he didn't have a, he didn't have a verse on the last record.

Speaker 3:
[51:32] It was on stage and they poured it in his mouth.

Speaker 4:
[51:35] He had that mid hotline. They poured it in his mouth?

Speaker 3:
[51:37] One of the, probably like somebody that works for their team. Yeah, came over and put the honey in his mouth and then, you know.

Speaker 2:
[51:43] And then he put it in Mandy's mouth? Yo, I don't know, man. I just, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[51:50] You know what? Mandy, a different type of freak. That's a different type of freak. You think? That's a different type of freak. Cause everybody, you could be the call her daddy horrible decisions girl and talk all that talk. But for a nigga to come to you with his mouth and you open your tongue and stick your tongue out, it gets, you really about that. Salute. Salute.

Speaker 1:
[52:11] Can we see that footage again, please?

Speaker 2:
[52:14] I have a baby.

Speaker 4:
[52:15] That honey didn't have a lot of consistency.

Speaker 1:
[52:17] That looked like straight up spit in my opinion.

Speaker 3:
[52:19] Nah, that was, nah, you can see how thick it is. It's honey.

Speaker 2:
[52:22] Or he got a cold.

Speaker 1:
[52:23] It's a loogie.

Speaker 3:
[52:25] Or he got a cold. Shut up.

Speaker 1:
[52:27] He's on tour. That's honey, but.

Speaker 2:
[52:33] Yo, hold on. It wasn't just spit. He like, he licked her mouth and all of that.

Speaker 1:
[52:39] And now you're just sitting on stage with honey in your mouth.

Speaker 2:
[52:42] Yo, nah, I ain't going to lie. That is different. That's next level. That's wild. That's some, that's some freaky shit right there. Yeah, the honey in the mouth is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[52:54] Red shorts and red socks is fucking nuts. Look what he's wearing.

Speaker 2:
[53:02] Well, shout out to Mandy, man.

Speaker 1:
[53:04] Can we hear a testimony? Yeah, shout out to Mandy. We love Mandy.

Speaker 6:
[53:07] And instructed Spectacular to spit the honey in my mouth because I am disgusting. If you know anything about me, you know that I am disgusting. It was all consensual. Spectacular was an upstanding gentleman, made sure I was cool, walked me off the stage, like thanked me for my participation. He is a performer.

Speaker 1:
[53:33] He was such a gentleman when he was spitting honey into my mouth.

Speaker 3:
[53:35] Well, he asked her beforehand.

Speaker 1:
[53:37] No, I think this is great. I love man. This is, if this was Mandy's dream, I'm glad it was fulfilled. Just, it's, you know, it's a lot.

Speaker 2:
[53:46] Shout out Mandy. She listens, she nasty. She letting it be known. She bought that life. She spit in my mouth.

Speaker 3:
[53:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:54] So how's Bow Wow going to top this one?

Speaker 2:
[53:58] Bow Wow is backstage looking at that n***a. I got something for these n****s tonight.

Speaker 1:
[54:05] I'm going to piss on a bitch.

Speaker 3:
[54:06] Yeah, like a dog. He got to get out all fours and lift his leg.

Speaker 2:
[54:10] Treat you like a fire hydrant.

Speaker 1:
[54:13] Spectacular is dressed like one.

Speaker 3:
[54:17] What y'all going to do at y'all next live show?

Speaker 2:
[54:20] Yeah, I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 1:
[54:23] It's a dub now.

Speaker 2:
[54:24] No, we got to up it. Spectacular spitting in mouths, we got to up it. We got to figure something out. We got to figure something out.

Speaker 1:
[54:32] Also, who's hired to actually pour honey in his mouth? Imagine that's your gig. You've been working all your life. You wanted to be on tour so bad and now your job is to-

Speaker 2:
[54:43] Yeah, I don't know if Baby D got it right. I don't know if somebody poured honey in his mouth.

Speaker 3:
[54:48] Yeah, one of the team members put the honey in his mouth.

Speaker 2:
[54:51] Like one of the dancers?

Speaker 3:
[54:52] Probably. Or it could have been like their version of Ryan.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] The DJ? You think the DJ? These got the DJ. Yo, listen, I'm a team player. If I'm the DJ, cool. I'm going to make sure the sounds are... You niggas can't hand me the honey. Like, yo, after this song, when I walk over, just pour the honey in my mouth. Like, if you don't pour your own honey, pour honey in my mouth.

Speaker 1:
[55:22] What if what if they had cues? No, what if there was like they put tape down exactly where it should be?

Speaker 2:
[55:26] Yo, that is crazy, man. That is what, tall life is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[55:32] But then also what happens like, cause of course he was a gentleman and it was consensual. What happens like when you have the honey in your mouth and she's like, no thanks. Now you just got a mouthful of honey.

Speaker 2:
[55:44] You got to sing. You got to hit the neck of your mouth.

Speaker 1:
[55:45] Now you got to sing on the hotline.

Speaker 2:
[55:49] Oh man.

Speaker 1:
[55:51] Is Pleasure P in this as well? Cause I know he like love.

Speaker 3:
[55:54] I'm sure Pleasure P is there.

Speaker 1:
[55:56] Didn't like, did they have a bad breakup?

Speaker 2:
[55:58] They need to join the group back again? Yeah, they kind of was like on the house. But listen man, you know how that shit go? Man, when that offer come in for the whole group and that y'all sitting back looking at mortgage and bills.

Speaker 1:
[56:09] Listen.

Speaker 2:
[56:09] You get on the phone with like, yo fellas.

Speaker 1:
[56:11] I always love boyfriend number two. That was always my shit bro.

Speaker 2:
[56:17] Yeah. It turned into that in the group chat. Like, yo, listen man, let's give them what they want. Y'all better.

Speaker 1:
[56:22] Start saying shit like, yo, let's do it for our families.

Speaker 2:
[56:26] Yeah. Y'all know how to put all that shit to the side when that mortgage start piling up and that offer come in. Like they trying to give us what? Man, we out of here. We on the road. Fuck this.

Speaker 3:
[56:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:38] I'm fucking trying to sell real estate in Florida right now.

Speaker 2:
[56:40] You better get your ass on that stage. Fuck that.

Speaker 3:
[56:43] Yeah. Pleasure Pete is there. Oh, he did. Bow Wow. A. Marie's on some stops. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:51] Have they come to New York yet?

Speaker 3:
[56:52] The Boys For Life Tour.

Speaker 7:
[56:53] Yeah, they were here.

Speaker 2:
[56:54] They was in Jersey. They did Jersey.

Speaker 1:
[56:56] Damn.

Speaker 2:
[56:56] They did The Prudential.

Speaker 1:
[56:58] Are they coming back? Can we look up?

Speaker 2:
[57:00] Are they coming back?

Speaker 1:
[57:01] Not like I'm...

Speaker 3:
[57:02] Hey, yo. Rory want his mouth spit in.

Speaker 2:
[57:04] He mad he missed the boys.

Speaker 3:
[57:07] He want his mouth spit in for real.

Speaker 2:
[57:08] Rory, you missed the boys? It's over, man. You got to catch them in another city, man. They gone.

Speaker 1:
[57:13] Just have to live vicariously through Mandy.

Speaker 2:
[57:14] Yeah, that's it. You should have lived with Mandy.

Speaker 1:
[57:17] No, I didn't know all of them on the tour.

Speaker 2:
[57:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:20] That's a great lineup. That's a really good lineup.

Speaker 2:
[57:24] I mean, listen, all jokes aside, I mean, all three of them, because it's B2K, Bow Wow and Pretty Ricky, right?

Speaker 1:
[57:32] And Waka? Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[57:35] They got hits, man. They got records.

Speaker 1:
[57:36] Just missed, April 5th, just missed it. God damn it. I need to like add these things to my calendar.

Speaker 3:
[57:42] So if that wasn't your calendar, I'm not going to hold you.

Speaker 2:
[57:45] Yeah, we'd have to have a conversation.

Speaker 1:
[57:48] The boys are back in town right on April 5th.

Speaker 2:
[57:50] Yeah, you can't have that in your calendar.

Speaker 1:
[57:51] Why not?

Speaker 2:
[57:52] You can't do that.

Speaker 1:
[57:53] I'm at that age now, if I don't put things on my calendar.

Speaker 2:
[57:54] I know, I know, but just that doesn't need to go on the calendar, though.

Speaker 3:
[57:57] Rory was outside last night.

Speaker 1:
[57:59] Oh, I was a little outside.

Speaker 2:
[58:01] Where you was at?

Speaker 1:
[58:02] I went to the Kehlani listening.

Speaker 2:
[58:04] Oh, OK. How was it?

Speaker 1:
[58:05] It was good. It was really good.

Speaker 2:
[58:07] She got an album coming?

Speaker 1:
[58:08] This Friday. Oh, yeah. Clips is on there. She played the Cardi record. There's some shit on there. OK. I like it. I mean, and it was just a great. I went for the music, of course. Of course, it just is a plus that Kehlani brings them out. Just a bunch of pretty, pretty studs. Just just all there, just for Kehlani. Yeah. Not going to talk to anyone else, just swarm her. But no, it was a good time. Wayne T. Payne, Cardi B, Brandi, Big Sean, Usher, Missy. Little John Clips and Leon Thomas out on Friday. But no, it was a good time. And then it turned into a party. And, you know, Kehlani has very, very dedicated fans.

Speaker 2:
[58:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:46] So it was a good time. It was a very good time.

Speaker 2:
[58:49] I saw that Bryson Tiller had dropped something and had told the fans that his song Sorrows was about Kehlani. I never knew that. You knew that?

Speaker 1:
[58:59] No, I had no idea.

Speaker 2:
[58:59] Now listen to that song. I'm like, oh, okay. Interesting.

Speaker 3:
[59:04] I love when a n***a say interesting.

Speaker 2:
[59:05] Interesting. No, because that song is one of Bryson Tiller. That's probably the best song on that anniversary album. But I didn't know it was about Kehlani, though. I had no idea. So that was kind of cool.

Speaker 3:
[59:19] Girl, that used to be my homie. Left me with a dream. She sold me. Even the dreams get lonely. Left me here at three in the morning, questioning all the things you told me.

Speaker 2:
[59:28] Kehlani did the B-tiller, man. Look how she did Pen Griffey. Look how she did him. Did him bad. Bryson got to have my thing coming too, right? They didn't announce new music? I think they announced some new music or new single coming out. The Dream announced his album is done and he got a release date. I'm looking forward to that. Him and Tricky Stewart back together. Anytime Dream and Tricky work, like, I'm there. Sign me up. I'm there for it.

Speaker 1:
[59:55] I was talking with Bryson because I obviously would love to have Bryson on my album. And he sent me his calendar of all the features that he owes. And he put he slotted me in for 2027. No, I appreciate it. Like he really had each month of the features is doing. And then he's like, well, I mean, I could rush it and get it done. But I don't want to like charge you for it. Like if you want to pay my fee. And I was like, well, what's your fee? I'm not going to say what his fee was.

Speaker 4:
[60:22] He was like, 2027 is great.

Speaker 1:
[60:24] You said 2030 is fine with me. Bro, when he told me his feature fee.

Speaker 2:
[60:33] Yeah, it get different.

Speaker 3:
[60:33] Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2:
[60:34] I know. It get different.

Speaker 6:
[60:35] It get different.

Speaker 3:
[60:37] I think he said, now, give me your, I'll do the homie date. That's fine.

Speaker 2:
[60:41] Rory got real busy. He said, you know what, now, I'm looking at my calendar for 26. And I'm like, I'm slam Bryson. So we could just circle back to 27. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1:
[60:53] Yo, I was crying.

Speaker 2:
[60:55] When that fee gets sent through, right? Yeah, I know. Then all of a sudden, get patient when that fee hit the line. Like, no, we could wait. We can push some things back. Yeah, we could wait.

Speaker 1:
[61:04] So let's just wait. I don't want to feel like I got to half ass something for a fee. It's blank. You're casually telling someone. I just want to tell you, Bryson Taylor has a lot of money.

Speaker 3:
[61:21] Yeah, Bryson Taylor has a lot of money. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:24] Holy shit.

Speaker 2:
[61:25] Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[61:26] No, that was like one of the more humbling text messages I've ever got.

Speaker 2:
[61:29] Yeah, listen, man. No, Bryson, we... Listen, man, we're in no rush here. We have.

Speaker 1:
[61:34] Let's let the song come to us.

Speaker 2:
[61:36] Let's wait for the inspiration.

Speaker 1:
[61:37] Open the door. Let God in. Let God in.

Speaker 2:
[61:41] Yeah. Yeah, that VK. Listen, we... You know what? 26, let's take some time off. Let's spend time with our fans.

Speaker 1:
[61:48] That's my entire recording budget.

Speaker 6:
[61:51] I'm not even joking.

Speaker 1:
[61:52] That's my entire recording budget. I guess the album's just one Bryson Tiller verse.

Speaker 2:
[61:59] Shit, that's all you need for a... Yeah, it's an EP.

Speaker 3:
[62:02] It's an EP?

Speaker 2:
[62:05] Oh my God, that is so fucking funny, man.

Speaker 1:
[62:07] But shout out to Bryson. And I do appreciate people, especially at the level that Bryson is, to actually give transparency and not industry run around bullshit.

Speaker 2:
[62:15] Shout out to BTOP, man.

Speaker 1:
[62:16] Yes, I look forward to eventually working with Bryson for the homie record.

Speaker 2:
[62:21] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[62:22] When we be having interviews here, you be sneaking them to the back like, yo, I'm working on this music thing and playing them stuff. It's okay if you do, like, we're not going to judge you.

Speaker 1:
[62:32] Um, I mean, I don't know, maybe after. But like, I mean, I had already talked to Chance about it before he even came here. Bryson, I talked to him recently and he, when was he on? Like last year? No, not in person, like when we're doing the pod. I feel like that would be kind of weird.

Speaker 3:
[62:51] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[62:51] But I have no shame in that, of wanting to work with people and asking them. Like this is what I'm working on. If you think it's good, cool, if not great.

Speaker 3:
[63:01] But I love that for you. I would be terrified. Why? I don't know. I'm shy. I would be shy to ask people stuff like that.

Speaker 2:
[63:09] All they can say about that shy.

Speaker 3:
[63:10] When it comes to work stuff, I am very shy.

Speaker 2:
[63:12] You ain't shy.

Speaker 3:
[63:13] Okay, Mal.

Speaker 2:
[63:14] You're not shy.

Speaker 3:
[63:15] When it comes to work stuff, yes I am.

Speaker 2:
[63:17] No, shy is the wrong word. You're not shy.

Speaker 1:
[63:19] You were twerking at an Ice Spice show.

Speaker 3:
[63:21] Yeah. That's not what I said.

Speaker 2:
[63:22] Shy is the wrong word is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:
[63:25] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[63:25] Maybe something else is not shy. No, not scary.

Speaker 3:
[63:28] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[63:29] But you're not shy. It's not shy is what I'm saying. Because you're not, like I know you're not a shy person.

Speaker 3:
[63:36] That's my personality. Are you talking about, you know me as a friend, like a personality. When it comes to asking people for shit work wise or do anything like work related.

Speaker 2:
[63:44] I don't ask people for shit. I'm not shy.

Speaker 3:
[63:46] That's because you don't want to ask them for shit. That's the difference. I could want to ask somebody for something and be like, no, like I'm scared. Like I can't. Like, it's like a very, very uncomfortable, like small feeling. You don't have that. You just don't want to ask nobody for shit.

Speaker 2:
[63:59] Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So it's the same. You don't ask for shit. I don't ask for shit. But it's not shy. It's not. I don't think it's a shy thing with you.

Speaker 1:
[64:06] You don't want to be a bother?

Speaker 2:
[64:08] It's not even that. I just don't. I just don't ask people for shit. I don't know what it is. I can't. You know me. I can't really answer. I don't know what it is. I just never ask people for anything. Like, I just don't.

Speaker 1:
[64:18] I mean, I don't mind to ask people because I'm very confident in the stuff that I'm going to send them. No, I really mean that where I think guests that we've had or like associates, I wouldn't say like friends, but artists that we've had on, I think just out of us doing the pod or having some type of back and forth relationship, they'll listen to it just to be nice. So because I know they'll do that, I'm confident that they're gonna like it as well. I know they'll give it a pity, like a pity.

Speaker 3:
[64:49] Listen.

Speaker 1:
[64:50] All right, let's see your little mixtape. But I know it's great. So usually I get the reaction like, oh, I didn't know he was making shit like this. So yeah, it usually is a pleasant surprise for people and they tend to want to be a part of it. It's okay.

Speaker 3:
[65:04] That's dope though.

Speaker 1:
[65:05] Yeah, like, I mean, when I was, I want to say harassing, but when I was trying to track Lucky down with everything, I was very confident in the record. It's like, just listen to it and I promise you want to get on it. And that's what happened. If I was sending whack shit, I would be like, kind of like, nah, I'm not.

Speaker 3:
[65:19] Well, nobody thinks their shit is whack though.

Speaker 1:
[65:21] Nah, some people should.

Speaker 3:
[65:23] They should, but they don't.

Speaker 2:
[65:25] Yeah, some people should think their shit is whack.

Speaker 1:
[65:28] No, you need that. Like, you need that self-awareness, I feel like. That whole confidence, Kanye confidence, happens when you make stuff like Kanye West. You shouldn't have Kanye confidence and sound click beats. Like, that should, you should have self-awareness. Cause I know when my shit is bad, it takes 15 beats to get to one good one. But I'm not sending those other 15. You should have self-awareness of like, nah, this ain't it.

Speaker 2:
[65:56] Self-awareness, very important these days.

Speaker 3:
[65:59] Is it aware, is it?

Speaker 1:
[66:00] Self-love is important. Self-awareness is more important.

Speaker 3:
[66:04] Nah.

Speaker 2:
[66:05] Self-awareness is definitely more important.

Speaker 3:
[66:06] Nah, I think self-love is more important than self-love.

Speaker 2:
[66:09] You got to, self-awareness, you need to be aware.

Speaker 3:
[66:12] It was, but plenty of people be aware of who they are and don't change. So like that, that don't mean shit. You aware of some shit, what that mean? If it's mad people, that's me and Rory talk about it all the time, that we're terrible people who are aware that we're terrible people. Like that don't mean shit. If you're, unless you're trying to change it.

Speaker 1:
[66:27] Yeah, but it's worse if you're walking around with this blindness of self-love and you're an asshole. Like that's worse.

Speaker 3:
[66:35] It's worse for other people. It's not worse for you. That's the thing. It's not worse for you. There's plenty of people who think everybody loves them. They love themselves. They think everybody loves them and they skate through life. Like, but there's plenty of people who are so stuck in being self-aware and in double thinking and double checking and double thinking too much about everything they do. And they never accomplish anything because they're too busy being self-aware instead of just doing. So I think that there is a happy middle, but.

Speaker 2:
[67:01] But what does it got to do with?

Speaker 3:
[67:02] Some people are too self-aware and they're stuck in their head too much. You won't accomplish anything if you're too stuck in your head being aware of every single thing you do. You ever seen people who are dumb and they float around life and they're so happy because they're so dumb?

Speaker 1:
[67:13] Ignorance is bliss. I hear you. But I'm saying specifically in creating art, you should have self-awareness of when your shit is not good. Like the best artists that I know personally hate 99 percent of the shit. That's why they're so great, because they only put out the one percent. Those fucking self-loving artists are. There's a reason why they're trash.

Speaker 3:
[67:32] Now that we circle back, we're revisiting the J. Cole conversation, where he was self-aware enough to know that he's not better than Jay-Z. His self-love didn't beat out his self-awareness, but y'all were trying to convince me that as a rapper, as a creative artist, like you just said, you should just have that confidence and think that you're better than everyone.

Speaker 1:
[67:49] That we were talking in regards to the sport of hip-hop. When you walk onto a football field, you should feel like the best because you're in a competition. I'm not talking about alone in the studio by yourself trying to create art. I'm talking about in the sport of hip-hop. I think every battle rapper should walk on stage thinking that-

Speaker 3:
[68:06] Every battle rapper. Battle rap is a sport.

Speaker 1:
[68:09] Rap is a sport.

Speaker 3:
[68:11] So rap is the only music genre where everybody has to look at each other and be competitive?

Speaker 1:
[68:15] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[68:15] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[68:17] I hate to tell you. It's part of the essence of the art form, is competition.

Speaker 6:
[68:24] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[68:25] I mean, it's the only art form. I mean, I'm sure there are like jazz musicians that are quietly competing with the horn next to them, but it's not embedded in the DNA of the genre where hip hop is born from battling in a park.

Speaker 6:
[68:39] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[68:41] I don't think Slick Rick was like, yo Dougie Fresh, you're better. No, he was in the Bronx trying to tear everybody's head off. Oh man. But I mean, that we were saying in that regard. No, I think there's plenty of rappers that know they're not the best, which is fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Cole though, I think should have the confidence. There's a lot of rappers that should say, hey, Jay-Z is much better than me. And that's fine. Cole to me is a peer of Jay-Z's now. I think they are both legends. Yeah, you got to have that confidence because you should think you're just as good because you're right there with them. Now, if just a fucking, I don't know, a little perp, whatever. No, you shouldn't think that. But Cole is up there.

Speaker 2:
[69:31] No, the problem is Jay Cole said he doesn't think he's better than Jay-Z. You don't have to say that. You could feel that. I'm sure a lot of rappers feel like they're not. They ain't going to say it. You don't say that. Like that's in rap. You don't do that. You don't say, nah, I don't think I'm better than him.

Speaker 3:
[69:46] There's so many things you don't do in rap that people have been...

Speaker 2:
[69:49] There's some things you don't do in life. But in rap, when you're at that level, you don't say it. You don't say, nah, I don't think I'm better than Jay-Z. But you also don't say, I think I'm better than Jay-Z. See, it's both sides of that. You don't say, I think I'm better than Jay-Z. No, you don't say who you think you're better than. But you also don't say who you don't think you're better than. It's just an unwritten law of rap. You just don't say that. You don't have to say, I'm better than... Cole, I'm not expecting Cole to go up there. I'm better than all of you. But he's done it in his bars before. That's all I'm saying. He's done it in his raps. He said it in his raps. Which is why people was like, yeah, hell yeah, fuck with this dude. Like, you know what I mean? Cause now we believe you. We believe in your confidence. We feel it. We like, yeah, nah, I can see that. But then when you get up there and be like, no, I don't, you know, it's like, what? What you doing, bro? That's my answer there, but Cole is still a very, very dope MC.

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Speaker 1:
[72:19] Before we get to voicemails, I do want to get on my whole venture shit now that we're here. Check it off on your bingo card every episode, I understand. I feel like this week has been, I don't know if it's for clicks, but the Jay-Z hate train amongst podcasters is getting like, it's getting odd at this point. But Monty said he's not inspired by Jay-Z's billion dollar.

Speaker 2:
[72:40] Who said, oh, Monty, Monty Jones?

Speaker 1:
[72:43] I'm not inspired by that.

Speaker 3:
[72:46] I don't think that's, what do you think is crazy about that?

Speaker 1:
[72:49] If you're not inspired by legitimately the American dream, a project kid made it with no education in the worst circumstances in Brooklyn in the 80s to become a billionaire, self-billionaire, marrying to royalty. Five lifetimes, the Carter's will never run out of money. How is that not inspiring if you know the story of Jay-Z? What billion dollars is inspiring to you then? Uber? Something...

Speaker 3:
[73:21] Well, why? Okay, so why did he say he wasn't inspired by it? What is his lack of inspiration coming from?

Speaker 1:
[73:26] He didn't explain his point at all. I'm not sure. He just said he's not inspired by it.

Speaker 3:
[73:30] Because something can be inspiring, but it doesn't inspire you. Like that's not what gets your creative juices going.

Speaker 1:
[73:36] He said specifically, I'm not inspired by that billion dollars. Now, if I'm not saying you need to be inspired by money, but if you're saying specific, all right, what billion dollars does inspire you then? Because if you're using that choice of words, then there must be a billion dollars that does inspire you. I think we're just trying to pick things. And then, what was the one I sent you? Well, Press Boxing, they're on the ringer. They said Jay-Z isn't profound. He's never said anything profound at all. He's just a rapper. Why are we even putting him on a pedestal? He's never said anything profound. You know, LL Cool J has said stuff profound. Rob Deep has said stuff profound, but Jay-Z has never said anything profound about the world that we're currently living. People are just making things up at this point to just say.

Speaker 2:
[74:23] People gotta have shit to say, man. Whether it be crazy, no matter how crazy, we say shit people think is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[74:31] Fair. Right?

Speaker 2:
[74:31] So I mean, you know, I just think that not being inspired by a kid who grew up in the projects in Brooklyn and is now a self-made billionaire, I don't, I just, if you, that story doesn't inspire you on some scale. I'm not saying you have to dedicate your life to trying to do exactly what Jay-Z did, but that's a very inspirational story.

Speaker 1:
[74:54] Like if he doesn't make a billion dollars, it's inspirational.

Speaker 2:
[74:56] Like, yeah, like I just don't, you know what I mean? Like if I'm inspired by Michael Jackson, I'm inspired by Stevie Wonder. Like, how can I not be inspired by Jay-Z's story? Like, I don't know. It's just, you know.

Speaker 1:
[75:08] And not to be Jay Cole of saying someone's better than, if you threw me in the same exact circumstances as Jay-Z, I do not think I'd be able to do what he did.

Speaker 3:
[75:15] Like, most people wouldn't.

Speaker 1:
[75:18] 0.0001% of people have ever done what he did in the circumstances that he was in.

Speaker 2:
[75:22] So when you say that's not inspiring, it's like, how?

Speaker 3:
[75:24] But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[75:25] That does not happen.

Speaker 3:
[75:26] Did he say it's not inspiring or that it doesn't inspire him? There's plenty of shit that people have done that is inspiring, but me personally, it wouldn't inspire. That's what I'm saying. I guess I will have to listen to the clip because I can kind of understand that if that doesn't inspire you, it doesn't.

Speaker 2:
[75:40] I think he said, can you pull up the exact quote, Ryan? I think he said he'd rather focus on his rapping ability.

Speaker 7:
[75:49] I don't care that Jay-Z got a billion dollars. I am personally not inspired by the fact that he got a billion dollars. Whenever I hear him say something that's about something larger than really rap, I'm like, hey, why don't we get back to rap? Which people took his meat saying, are you telling Jay-Z to shut up and dribble? And the answer is, kind of. Look man, there's some people I don't want to hear talk. I'm not saying that you don't have the right to talk, right? I'm saying he's out of his depth on certain topics. I think that's the part that I found wild. I don't care what Jay-Z think about this stuff because of what he's demonstrated to me, he thinks about. I'm not interested in his thoughts on these larger matters. I think we've made a mistake by making him something more than a rapper or...

Speaker 1:
[76:36] Which cool, the latter half of that, you can feel that way and I'm not here to argue. I just think choosing the words of not being inspired by that, his billion dollars is just an odd connection to what he's trying to say.

Speaker 3:
[76:49] I kind of get what he's saying. I think it's leaning into the more of when Jay-Z started getting the critique of he had become unrelatable.

Speaker 1:
[76:56] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[76:57] I think that's kind of like what it's leaned into because you've become one of them. Like you're a billionaire. Like so you're being inspired by somebody being a billionaire. It's so out of reach that it's like this somebody being a millionaire might be inspiring to me because it feels more touchable. It feels more tangible. But a billionaire, that's you become like a Cinderella story. Like that's not inspiring to a lot of people. I understand what he's saying. I still think he's a hater, but I understand what he's saying.

Speaker 1:
[77:22] But I don't care about like the billion dollars specifically. That's not what I'm getting at. What that billion dollars represents. We watched Jay-Z, his whole, like we watched this happen. We watched somebody come from nothing and get to where he is now. To me, that's the inspiration, not the figure liquid billion dollars. Like that's whatever. That billion represents how the fuck could somebody come from this circumstance that we've watched for 20 years get to that place.

Speaker 3:
[77:48] Yeah, but I think you and him are talking about two completely different things. And that's why I wanted to hear the clip. Because I don't think his point is, oh, Jay-Z came from nothing. I think he's talking about Jay-Z's current rap, what he's rapping about, what he connects to now. I don't think he's thinking about his whole total overall from the beginning.

Speaker 1:
[78:04] I mean, I guess I, cause I had some of those critiques with Magna Carta. I was like, there's not a lot of relatable shit on here. And I think Jay-Z heard his fans say that. And then that's how we get to a 444, et cetera. But I still, like when I hear the God did verse and him telling his entire story of the last 20 years, that's inspiring to me. Like everything he's talking about, what he did with Juan, I don't understand how you could not be inspired by somebody who's done all those things. That's just weird. To me, that's hater shit. It's hater shit. And what's funny is the guy that he's talking to is the very guy that said, Jay-Z's never said anything profound. So Bumani's saying, why doesn't he say more profound things? And he's saying he's never said anything profound. So is it Uchi Wally or One Mic?

Speaker 2:
[78:50] No, that statement is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[78:52] Because now he's saying shut up and dribble, but his co-host is saying, well, he needs to say more. He's never said anything profound.

Speaker 2:
[78:58] That's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[79:00] What are some profound lines of Jay's that you guys can think of?

Speaker 1:
[79:04] It's not even a line. It's albums. Like, the entire reasonable doubt. Can I Live is some of the most profound perspective ever in rap history. What is not the first few lines of Can I Live? Becoming an addict of the lifestyle is a custom to the people that you're serving with this like that's profound. That's fucking Shakespeare shit.

Speaker 2:
[79:28] I just don't think people just, you know, well, I guess people don't care. I guess too, that's part of it. Like people, people sometimes just don't care enough to really, you know, pay attention to artists and if they say profound shit or not. I think that's just a part of it. Like I try not to even really like give a lot of that shit any energy because all of us, we could all listen to the same thing and hear something totally different, you know what I'm saying? Like what is profound to you may not be profound to somebody else.

Speaker 1:
[79:56] I mean, is the story of OJ not profound?

Speaker 2:
[79:59] To me, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[80:01] Is the second verse on Smile even specifically about your brother not profound of the state of the justice system right now?

Speaker 2:
[80:07] 1000%.

Speaker 1:
[80:09] Is Moonlight not profound?

Speaker 2:
[80:11] To me, yes. I'm saying to other people, they might hear it and be like, I don't care about that shit. It ain't profound to me.

Speaker 3:
[80:17] Profound describes something with deep insight, intense emotion or extreme intensity.

Speaker 2:
[80:25] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[80:26] I know Jay-Z says profound shit all the time. But a lot of people don't know the words that they're using. They don't know what the fuck they mean.

Speaker 2:
[80:32] Well, that's-

Speaker 3:
[80:33] Jay-Z has been critiqued for being too profound. That's been his critique, people find. Yeah, so whatever.

Speaker 1:
[80:40] And granted, that gentleman, of course, is entitled to his opinion, whether it's misguided or not, whatever. It pisses me off more when he used the examples of rappers that do say profound things.

Speaker 2:
[80:51] That's weird, see-

Speaker 1:
[80:52] Like, listen, he just said that, I'm like, all right, well, he probably just didn't listen.

Speaker 2:
[80:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[80:56] Like, do you fools listen to music that just skimmed through it? Is Renegade not profound? He said, LL Cool J, Mobb Deep. I love Mobb Deep and I love LL Cool J. But to say that they say profound things and Jay-Z doesn't is the wildest fucking comparison I've ever heard.

Speaker 2:
[81:16] That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[81:17] I think Mobb Deep is profound. I think Survival of the Footage is profound.

Speaker 2:
[81:20] What? Absolutely. Shook One is just profound.

Speaker 1:
[81:26] But I just don't think Momma Said Knock You Out is light gears above the intellect level of Jay-Z.

Speaker 2:
[81:33] Yeah, he's wrong.

Speaker 3:
[81:34] Don't pull out Momma Said Knock You Out. That's not fair to LL Cool J.

Speaker 1:
[81:38] Who's more profound, LL Cool J or Jay-Z?

Speaker 3:
[81:40] But that's not fair to LL.

Speaker 1:
[81:42] I love LL Cool J.

Speaker 3:
[81:43] That's like if somebody was using Jay-Z and they was like, I don't think Empire State of Mind is that profound. Like, don't.

Speaker 1:
[81:48] Of course. And yeah, LL Cool J has definitely said profound things.

Speaker 2:
[81:51] For sure.

Speaker 1:
[81:52] But it's just a very, it's a very odd example. That's all. Like I could see if he was on more of the snobbier level where it's like, he's not like Lupe or Black Thought or these guys. He just pulled out LL Cool J out of nowhere.

Speaker 2:
[82:06] Those comparisons was crazy. Definitely was crazy.

Speaker 1:
[82:09] That was, that was like, He didn't even say Nas.

Speaker 2:
[82:11] Yeah, like all the names you could have said Pac, you said Mobb Deep and LL. And listen, we love Mobb Deep and LL, but that was just, no, he missed the mark on that one. It's okay. Sometimes you say things, we've all done it. Anybody sitting in front of mics and cameras, we say things sometimes.

Speaker 3:
[82:28] People want to hate on the cool people is what it is. Anybody people love that people want to hate on for fun, for clicks or attention.

Speaker 1:
[82:38] Sometimes you're Che Guevara with Bling on. It's complex.

Speaker 2:
[82:41] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[82:42] Do we have voicemails?

Speaker 1:
[82:45] Never claimed to have wings on.

Speaker 7:
[82:46] You've got mail.

Speaker 5:
[82:48] What's up, Rory, Mal, Damaris. This is Quan from Dyckman. I just want to get y'all opinion on what do y'all think? This is a good place to take a girl out for a first date. So me personally, I'm very big on watching true crime docs and like serial killer documentary type shit. And I just recently saw in New York that they opened up this like interactive museum called Mind of a Serial Killer. Oh yeah. And it basically take you through a tour of like the greatest serial killers in the history.

Speaker 1:
[83:22] And So where do we work?

Speaker 5:
[83:24] What they was going through in their mind and shit like that. And I want to take this girl there. But I'm also thinking like, what do you think that's kind of sus? What do you think is kind of weird? So I just want to get y'all opinion on it. Appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1:
[83:38] I feel like thinking that it's weird makes it weird. I think it's a really cool date.

Speaker 2:
[83:43] Yeah, I saw that. Now I thought about going. I think it's weird for him if you say that's their first date. First date, you shouldn't take a girl on a serial killer museum experience. That's just not, I mean, not first date. You got to know the person and know their psyche and how they think and how they feel. Because what if this is our first date and her fucking sister was killed by a serial killer? It's like, now the whole date is ruined. Like the whole date is fucked up now.

Speaker 1:
[84:12] Remember in Hitch when he took her to Ellis Island?

Speaker 2:
[84:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:16] By her grandfather. I thought butcher was just an occupation.

Speaker 2:
[84:21] This is what I'm saying. You got to know, get to know her more. This is not a first date experience. No.

Speaker 1:
[84:28] I hate, but sometimes whether if you guys have been on social media or in person, sometimes you text for a few days because you're busy before you get around to the date. And maybe they were both watching something on Netflix. So like, there could be clues that she's into.

Speaker 2:
[84:40] Yeah. Now, if it is, then that's different.

Speaker 1:
[84:41] But no, just out the gate is kind of.

Speaker 2:
[84:43] Yeah. If you could kind of know that this is her bag, her vibe, like she watches, you know, the monster series on Netflix and things like that. This is her shit. Then this is going to be a great first date. But you have to have that information before taking somebody to a serial killer museum, you know, on a date. I just don't know if that's date vibes. Like, this is your girlfriend and y'all both be in a crib watching monsters together. This is dope. You know what I'm saying? But if you just, first day, you're just trying to get to know a little better, spend some time with her. I don't know if this is where you go.

Speaker 3:
[85:14] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:15] You don't think David Berkowitz gets the pussy?

Speaker 2:
[85:17] You don't go there.

Speaker 3:
[85:18] Unless she's into that type of stuff. Cause there are a lot of girls who are into that, to this type of stuff. Like, I got a home girl where if somebody took her here on a first date-

Speaker 2:
[85:23] Well, most of the countries are into this type of shit.

Speaker 3:
[85:25] Yeah. If you took her here on a first date, like, she would give you the pussy immediately. Like, this is all she watches.

Speaker 1:
[85:29] The highest form of podcasting is the crime shit. And which I think- Look up the stats. All those crime podcasts, I think it's like 95% women that listen to them.

Speaker 3:
[85:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:39] And it's the biggest genre in podcasting. So, yeah, women love- That's why Ted Bunny did numbers, not just-

Speaker 2:
[85:46] Off the court. Yeah, away from the sport.

Speaker 1:
[85:48] He was a legend in two games.

Speaker 2:
[85:49] Yeah, come on, man. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[85:51] A legend in two games. And he was ugly. Ugly niggas be getting pussy, yo. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2:
[85:57] That's because women were scared of him.

Speaker 3:
[86:00] Ain't nobody ever scared me out my drawers. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:
[86:04] The Uda scared you out your drawers.

Speaker 3:
[86:05] He did not scare me out my drawers.

Speaker 1:
[86:06] But they went on dates before. They had to have found him somewhat attractive in the beginning. They went on a date with him.

Speaker 3:
[86:12] Yeah. They were like, oh, he- And even to this day, they'd be like, oh, he was such a looker. They do that shit with him and who the president's wife who looked like a hammerhead shark? Jackie Kennedy?

Speaker 1:
[86:26] Don't do that to my family's hero.

Speaker 3:
[86:28] I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:
[86:29] You didn't think Jackie Kennedy was pretty?

Speaker 1:
[86:32] She had some unflattering photos.

Speaker 3:
[86:34] Who was the one that was like known for sucking dick? Her.

Speaker 1:
[86:37] That was Nancy Reagan.

Speaker 3:
[86:39] Nancy Reagan.

Speaker 1:
[86:39] I think.

Speaker 3:
[86:40] I can't remember which one of them it was.

Speaker 1:
[86:42] Jackie Kennedy was, they have some unflattering photos of Jackie out there.

Speaker 3:
[86:46] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[86:47] Nancy Reagan was a hot piece of ass back in her day though. Like the younger Nancy Reagan?

Speaker 3:
[86:53] No, Nancy Reagan was fine. I mean, not fine, but Nancy Reagan was Nancy Reagan. I'm talking about Jackie. What did they call her?

Speaker 2:
[86:58] What did they call her? The throat what?

Speaker 3:
[87:00] Throat goat.

Speaker 2:
[87:01] They called her, no, seriously, not-

Speaker 3:
[87:03] The throat goat.

Speaker 2:
[87:04] They didn't call Nancy Reagan the throat goat. They didn't call her the throat-

Speaker 3:
[87:08] The throatesaurus.

Speaker 2:
[87:09] They didn't call her that, man.

Speaker 1:
[87:12] Was it Laura Bush? She was kind of a looker as a youngster. Was it Laura? There was one, one Republican has a wife that was pretty when she was young.

Speaker 3:
[87:22] One Republican in the world had a wife that was pretty when she was younger.

Speaker 1:
[87:26] Like a real marriage, not like the one with our current president that he ordered.

Speaker 3:
[87:31] No, but Ted Bundy was a little ugly son.

Speaker 1:
[87:33] But I mean, I bet in that time in Utah, like that's top echelon. If you get Zac Efron to play you, I mean, you're kind of a stud.

Speaker 2:
[87:45] Yeah, but we've seen Bundy's-

Speaker 3:
[87:46] Pull up Ted Bundy, bro. He looked like somebody chewed him up, spit him out. God damn, like you ain't no way they was all, he was a looker.

Speaker 1:
[87:55] No, look at that third one.

Speaker 7:
[87:57] Bundy got the undies.

Speaker 2:
[88:00] Bundy got the undies.

Speaker 1:
[88:02] That looks like a cool, beat neck hippie guy. Like, yeah, he probably like would supply the LSD and shit. Yeah, that's a looker in the 70s.

Speaker 3:
[88:12] That was, I think that was him in jail. No, that, no, that man was no.

Speaker 2:
[88:18] No, I wasn't-

Speaker 3:
[88:18] Letting that man just in your house, just letting him in is craziest shit.

Speaker 1:
[88:24] Now you're slut shaming, and I don't like that.

Speaker 2:
[88:27] Ted Bundy. Yeah, but no, don't take on a first date to the Cybrian Killer Museum unless you know that that's her vibe, her bop, because you might ruin the date, man.

Speaker 1:
[88:39] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[88:39] And ask her, like, you should, the first date should always be her pick, like her choosing.

Speaker 2:
[88:44] We can't let y'all pick first dates no more. Why, mom? Because y'all want to go to Cyprianes and shit, places y'all ain't never been all of a sudden. Get out of here, nobody's going there. I want to go to Cyprianes, why? What you about to order? I want to take pictures and vibe.

Speaker 3:
[88:58] Wait, so she can't want to try a new restaurant?

Speaker 2:
[89:01] Not with me for the first time, no.

Speaker 3:
[89:03] Wait, so every date we go on, I got to go to a restaurant I already been to?

Speaker 2:
[89:07] Not that you already been to, but you going, you know, don't pick the restaurants that's on your Pinterest. No, we ain't going there. I'm not here to knock off your to-do list, no.

Speaker 1:
[89:17] But mom, she's a foodie.

Speaker 2:
[89:18] Yeah, fuck out of here. If it's a foodie, you should have been there already. So now you want to go in? No, we ain't doing that, no. We go somewhere nice.

Speaker 1:
[89:26] Women who want a free meal love calling themselves foodies. I'm just a foodie.

Speaker 3:
[89:30] Yo, what type of broke ass bitches y'all be fucking with? I don't know not one girl in the world, well, not one girl around me, who really be dating just for a free meal. That's poor shit.

Speaker 2:
[89:42] Oh, I mean, I don't date women like that. They got something like, what are you talking about? They're out there. You think they're not out there? Like you go to the beach, you might not see a shark, but they out there.

Speaker 1:
[89:52] Yeah. You need the drone to see it.

Speaker 2:
[89:54] They're out there. I promise you, baby.

Speaker 3:
[89:56] I mean, there's poor people everywhere. There's scammers everywhere. Like they exist, but most women I know be out to eat regularly with their friends. Like they ain't nobody going out with you if they don't like you just for a free meal.

Speaker 2:
[90:08] No, those girls.

Speaker 1:
[90:08] You're being naive.

Speaker 3:
[90:10] I don't think that I'm being naive. I'm just saying y'all make that seem like that's a lot of women, like the majority of women. I think that's a very rare case.

Speaker 2:
[90:16] I'm not saying the majority we're saying, it's just some women out there like that.

Speaker 3:
[90:19] Yeah, but why mention them?

Speaker 2:
[90:21] You said by what?

Speaker 3:
[90:22] Why bring them up like in regular conversation when they're not the regular? They're not the standard.

Speaker 2:
[90:26] It's fine to bring up those people. Why not? They need some love too, right? We all God's children. We all haven't sent, all of us.

Speaker 1:
[90:36] Even the son of Sam was having sex.

Speaker 2:
[90:37] Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1:
[90:38] Which is also a hilarious thing to learn about on a first date because he killed people on dates.

Speaker 2:
[90:42] Yeah. But I'm definitely going to that though. I saw that last week. I'm definitely going to check that out.

Speaker 1:
[90:49] Yeah, man. And not justice for David Berkowitz because he definitely did some of that shit, but that son of Sam doc on Netflix, I had no idea that it was like a team. My whole life, I thought it was just David Berkowitz by himself. That was a squad with ties to the Manson fam. Like, bro, that was Orico.

Speaker 2:
[91:08] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[91:10] How the fuck did they only arrest him? It's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 2:
[91:15] Oh, hi, baby D. Don't do that to me. Don't look me in my face and do that. Yeah, don't do that. But I, it's OK. O'Rourke, you got your good glasses on.

Speaker 1:
[91:26] Yeah, I hope I get positive. Knowing our listeners, I'll get a lot of positive reviews. A lot of people saying nice things about me. I'll get a lot of kind mentions of like, hey, man, they look great.

Speaker 3:
[91:37] I'll call you a French cigarette, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[91:40] They called me that all last week. They even called me.

Speaker 3:
[91:42] Mal, I came across like the type like, OK, so you know how you like getting your butt ate. I came across some porn on Twitter when this girl was eating butt, but she was like spitting in it. So when you get your butt ate, do you want like the like, you want her to like make it nasty like when she do it?

Speaker 1:
[92:00] You want to be sitting in a puddle?

Speaker 6:
[92:02] Mm-hmm, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[92:06] You want it like spectacular manly type of box?

Speaker 3:
[92:09] You want her to like spit in your butt like Mona Voight like.

Speaker 2:
[92:14] I got mad towels, baby D. Mad towels and I got my own washer and dryer. We can clean all this mess up at the end. Yeah, because if we ain't here to get nasty, what we here to do baby D? It's Mr. Nasty time. Yeah, let's go and they go and get it. They go find it. Whatever they're looking for. They go find it. I don't know. Rory, I promise you, I don't ask for it. See, it's y'all laughing. I don't ask for it.

Speaker 1:
[92:45] It's such a known thing that they-

Speaker 2:
[92:46] But I don't ask for it. Yeah, this is what y'all not recognizing. Y'all laughing at me, but I don't ask for it. It's not something that I ask for.

Speaker 1:
[92:53] You lift the leg a little bit to let them know it's okay.

Speaker 2:
[92:55] I don't do that.

Speaker 3:
[92:57] That one right there, that one right there.

Speaker 2:
[92:59] Yeah. Peej, I never said I shaved today. See, don't do that. See how Peej got to make you weird? Don't make it weird, bro. I don't say it.

Speaker 1:
[93:10] Yo, a girl trying to pull his pants down at him going, I'm not waxed.

Speaker 2:
[93:15] Imagine that. Give a fuck. Yeah. Baby D, they stay out there.

Speaker 3:
[93:21] See, lots of bitches that want free meals. Dumb the hoes, I'm judging.

Speaker 2:
[93:24] I love them.

Speaker 3:
[93:25] You spread a grown man's ass open and spit in it. You filthy, bitch.

Speaker 1:
[93:29] This is slut shaming and I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:
[93:31] Yeah, don't yuck my yum. Don't do that. Don't yuck my yum. I don't yuck yours.

Speaker 1:
[93:34] Or her yum.

Speaker 2:
[93:35] Yeah, or her yum. Don't do that to her. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[93:38] That's very judgmental. That's actually not really like you.

Speaker 2:
[93:40] That's not becoming of you, Baby D. I didn't take you for that type of mom.

Speaker 3:
[93:43] How you roll over in the morning like, Yeah, man, I was with the podcaster last night, spitting his ass.

Speaker 2:
[93:48] First of all, nobody. I was with a podcaster.

Speaker 3:
[93:53] I will block my friend, word to my kid. You told me you spitted the podcaster's ass last night. I'm blocking it.

Speaker 2:
[93:59] And it be the fine ones too. That's the crazy part. The fine ones is that. You know that, Baby D. You know the pretty girls is nasty. There's nothing. Am I right? Give me something, man. Don't leave me out here taking grenades in the trenches.

Speaker 1:
[94:09] Listen, I'm holding back some of my personal thoughts right now. I don't want to tell y'all the greatest feeling I've ever had. You ever had a girl on top of you riding while the other one is looking at you?

Speaker 4:
[94:25] Man, that's going to be a memory that will never leave my mind.

Speaker 2:
[94:31] Some things you never forget.

Speaker 1:
[94:33] While it was while it was happening in my brain.

Speaker 3:
[94:35] He said you chased that dragon for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2:
[94:39] He's been trying to relive that moment.

Speaker 7:
[94:42] Oh man.

Speaker 1:
[94:43] I'm not even exaggerating for the podcast. While it was happening with both of those amazing angels, I thought in my head, Rory, cherish this moment. Live in the moment. This is probably not going to happen again.

Speaker 2:
[94:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[94:58] I was telling myself to live in the moment.

Speaker 2:
[94:59] Yeah baby D, they get nasty.

Speaker 3:
[95:01] I'm gonna stop.

Speaker 2:
[95:03] They do.

Speaker 1:
[95:04] You'll never shine in the shade.

Speaker 2:
[95:05] Yeah. See baby, that's the problem. That's the problem. You won't know it's raining until you come outside baby D.

Speaker 3:
[95:13] I'm cool in the house. I'm cool in the house. I don't need to know what's outside. I got agoraphobia.

Speaker 2:
[95:23] Oh shit.

Speaker 1:
[95:24] Raze only comes in when the window's cracked.

Speaker 2:
[95:26] That's a fact. You gotta crack the window.

Speaker 3:
[95:27] I bolt them bitches shut.

Speaker 2:
[95:28] You have to crack the window.

Speaker 3:
[95:30] Y'all never looking on me in the ass.

Speaker 1:
[95:31] You gotta crack that crack.

Speaker 2:
[95:38] And if God didn't want to be eaten, why he cut it in half?

Speaker 1:
[95:48] And they say MAL says nothing profound.

Speaker 2:
[95:52] All right, man, we out of here, man. We told you y'all soon, be safe, be blessed.

Speaker 3:
[95:56] I'm that.

Speaker 4:
[95:56] He's just ginger.

Speaker 2:
[95:57] Baby, they don't yuck my yum.