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Speaker 1:
[00:31] Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop. You guys, there's been a lot of rumors going around that I may have lost two friends. And it's not true. They are back. We are good friends. They never hated me. Brandi and Julie from Dumb Gay Politics back with me in the studio. And so excited to have you guys here. Welcome to do the show. We're going to talk some shit. We're going to get a cute lunch after. Let's go.

Speaker 2:
[01:01] So happy. And I want to just do the reveal now that I know that it's been a thing and you just floated it. But we are two cunts from Two Cunts in a Zoom. It's us.

Speaker 1:
[01:15] I was afraid there might be a mix up. But yesterday I did mention Two Cunts in a Zoom and sadly, some people went to go look for it and their eyes will never be the same because it takes you to three cunts in a Zoom.

Speaker 2:
[01:32] I would imagine.

Speaker 1:
[01:33] And no, Two Cunts in a Zoom. Yeah, it's taking over. And for those people that got it, that's great. And if you didn't, I'll explain on Patreon later, but it is not Brandi and Julie. Some people might have thought that, but it is not.

Speaker 3:
[01:47] Well, we don't do our podcast on Zoom. I don't know why people couldn't figure it out or find it. Cause I know my favorite episode is, I cheated on my husband with a horse trainer.

Speaker 1:
[01:58] Oh yes, the horse trainer. By the way, Shanna and I just did a Juicy Crimes that's available right now about Equestrians. And I got all excited thinking it would be involving a girl, you know, that gets off, kicked off of a reality show about Real Housewives and then pops on her horse trainer's face. But it's a whole other crime and that's on Juicy Crimes. And make sure you subscribe to that everybody. And you can also watch that on the YouTube channel with everything else. So you just type in Heather McDonald YouTube. But no, it was about some, it was a very juicy crime about Equestrians, but not about former Real Housewives that go after horse trainers who are married with two children.

Speaker 3:
[02:42] And that wasn't us. I had like a minor crash out that did last over two weeks. It has sort of ended, but I did get home from filming our Patreon yesterday at our drug den studio, which is at Julie's house. And I walked into my bathroom and I had done my makeup like the lady with baby Jane or whatever. I was like, and I go, maybe I'm not better.

Speaker 1:
[03:10] Whatever happened to baby Jane?

Speaker 3:
[03:11] It was like blue. I was wearing blue.

Speaker 1:
[03:23] For the kids watching, that was, of course, my mother's favorite movie. Oh, wow. Which was about two sisters. One was a child star. One was the older one that made it. And the child star got jealous and ran over her in a car. And did her lipstick like you yesterday.

Speaker 3:
[03:42] Yeah. Like a little piece.

Speaker 1:
[03:44] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[03:44] It was, I tried to overline my lips. It was red. I had blue eyeshadow on. And you can also watch it on Feud. You can see because they-

Speaker 2:
[03:51] That whole story. Have you watched the Feud with them?

Speaker 1:
[03:53] I cannot believe I have not watched the Feud.

Speaker 2:
[03:55] Oh my God. You should.

Speaker 1:
[03:56] That is that a Ryan Murphy. I think that's a Ryan Murphy.

Speaker 2:
[03:59] Obviously, we're not. However, that one was quite good.

Speaker 1:
[04:04] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[04:05] Because it gives you the whole, it's them and it's about that movie.

Speaker 3:
[04:10] I'm not over exaggerating because you know how when your makeup is done, Heather, and you know this, once your makeup is done in the day, you're trying to figure out other things to do. Totally.

Speaker 1:
[04:19] I save things around, cameos.

Speaker 3:
[04:23] Yeah. All the cameos.

Speaker 1:
[04:24] By the way, Mother's Day special coming around the corner.

Speaker 3:
[04:28] Yeah, for us too. I wiped my whole face. I washed my face. I was like, I can't even leave the house. I couldn't believe it. I literally couldn't believe it. I was like, okay, well, I'm going to continue trying to get it together. So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:41] Well, you look beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[04:42] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[04:43] Thank you for telling me.

Speaker 3:
[04:44] Don't look at the back of this.

Speaker 2:
[04:46] You're doing great.

Speaker 3:
[04:46] Just front.

Speaker 1:
[04:47] We don't have a back camera. This is just a podcast that we filmed.

Speaker 3:
[04:51] We've been walking in front of Drake. I was like, Drake, look away. Don't look at the back of my hair.

Speaker 1:
[04:56] Drake would be the last person that would be like, you know what I'm concerned about? Normally, Brandi's bun is looking better from the back.

Speaker 2:
[05:03] Do people have hair on the back of their heads? I was just imagining. I always thought people had hair on the front.

Speaker 1:
[05:12] Let's get into some juicy stuff. I have talked about the Alex Cooper caller daddy. She has her own network and then called Unwell. And she runs that with her new husband. She's only had one husband. She's only been married like a year or two. And there's some stuff that now is being talked about. Now, this all came about because people loved that two years ago, Alex Cooper seemed to be taking Alix Earle under her wing, who was a great influencer that everyone loved, that just would like, you know, talk about her outfits and just kind of show her heart on Instagram and TikTok. And, but then something happened and they broke up and she no longer had her podcast at Unwell, and nobody really knew what happened. So then Alex Cooper did a video and addressed the fact that Alix Earle had reposted some not nice things about Alix Cooper and commented and liked things. And she was like, bring the receipts. And then Alix Earle hasn't responded. And everyone's like, what's going on? And then yesterday, a pretty explosive article from Bloomberg came out that was kind of an expose of where they talked to people, anonymous people, and some people that have left the business that were criticizing how working at Unwell was for them as an experience and that the husband of Alix Cooper, who had many jobs and high-profile things in media prior to them joining forces, I guess yells at people and that kind of thing. So I have heard some things. Oh, okay. And that appears to be true. But one person was like, yeah, I don't mind working there. Doesn't bother me. Now, that was a guy. Another person did tell me and she said, take it out of the show because my friend is a girl and she doesn't want to lose her job or she doesn't know she'd already left but she didn't want to come it to come back to her. And that was a few months ago. I think you have a lot of employees. It could be true. Now, the juicy part, and if it is, it is, I'm sure someone would still love to get a job there. Okay. In this job market, I don't think people are going to now not want a job there, but high execs and stuff have left. And then the other part is the sluice realize that this particular video that Alex Cooper put out, based on when she put it out, it looked like it was the day after the first weekend of Coachella, they noticed that her nails were not the same. And they're like, that was a video that she filmed prior to dropping. Did she drop it knowing this article was coming and she wanted to distract and get Alix Earle to come after her and for that to distract from this or for Alix Earle to come back, come at her and people to go, is this article and this stuff happening because it's Alix Earle's PR company or her spin to get bad press on Alix Cooper? And other people say, there's no way Alix Earle is doing this. And then the final one is, is it because they have different politics? Some people think seem to think that Alix Earle is more on the right and Alix Cooper is on the left and therefore she, Alix Earle was unhappy that Alix Cooper interviewed Kamala Harris and that started it all. I personally don't think that's the case. I think that she accepted a deal, realized she was making so much money doing videos for 350,000 a pop that this podcast was too much work and not worth it. And then there was maybe some other little competitive bitchy stuff between them where they just like ended it. But you know, this is not a great week for Alix Cooper. It seems to be the majority of the people are kind of team Alix Earle. What do you guys think?

Speaker 3:
[09:17] Well, I also did hear that, I mean, she sold that deal or did that deal with serious and it was for 160 million and it was part of the overall deal was that they had Alix Earle. And then supposedly, Alix Earle was only making a million. So her dad, who's, you know, super business savvy as a lawyer or something, Alix Earle's dad was like, she's not going to make 160. Even to be fair, she's running this huge whole staff, but while you make a million. So it was definitely first and foremost about money. And if I'm sure it did have to do with politics somewhat because Alix Cooper wants that network to be pretty progressive, I think they definitely were yelling at people. And I know one thing, if they were, Sirius won't do anything to protect anyone's employees.

Speaker 1:
[10:03] Well, three of the shows that were under the umbrella at Sirius went away. Either it was canceled or the person left or we don't know. But there were three other shows that were going to be part of that thing on Sirius that are not there now. So, but they have the YouTube show, like, you know, with the winter games and stuff in which she was criticized for that because Dakota of Warm and Wise was featured and also the guy that the dancer that was dating Brooke Nader was there and they're playing pool and there's between the two of them he says Brooke Nader was the worst sex I ever had. And they're like, how could Alex Cooper keep that in the show?

Speaker 3:
[10:47] In terms of Dakota, I did think that they filmed that before this fallout. So at that point, it's a testament to the bachelorette. Keep it on in. Keep it on. Put it up.

Speaker 1:
[11:00] I mean, here's the thing. You have all these shows, it might not be like, I got to make sure no one speaks badly about women. She was probably like, this is Juicy and Brooke Nader is fucking gorgeous and it's not gonna bother her and who cares? But other people can read into it how they like. But, you know, I mean, and speaking of Alex Earle, I mean, you know, her stepmother, who's been married to her dad for a long time, they have a couple of kids together, was the first like sugar baby that became famous because she was one of her clients as a sex worker, was the former governor, right, of New York.

Speaker 2:
[11:42] Elliot Spitzer.

Speaker 1:
[11:43] And so she knew her worth and she didn't shy away. She went on Howard's turn. She was like, yeah, it was me. She was not ashamed. And then she went and married a great business man. And now, you know, they have this great family and they're going to have a, they're all going to be featured on the Netflix reality show. So good for them.

Speaker 3:
[12:02] I did want to suggest to you because Sophia Franklin, who's Alex Cooper's former podcast host from Call Her Daddy, that, I like Alex Cooper, but that whole scenario gave me the itch from minute one. Like she dropped her best friend and then took Call Her Daddy, took the IP, even the word unwell, that thing came from Sophia Franklin. It did not come from Alex Cooper. So now her whole company, all the merch, all the unwell stuff is from the girl she dropped and kicked to the curb. However, Sophia Franklin is coming out with a book called Daddy Issues. I insist she come on the show because if Alex Cooper can be with a comedian named Heather, then so can Sophia Franklin.

Speaker 1:
[12:44] Well, Sophia Franklin did come on my show. We did, it was during COVID, I think, and she was living in Utah. I had followed the whole story and I empathized with the Sophia Franklin of the deal. Because I was like, I didn't like how the audience was coming after her because she met a boyfriend who knew the business and was like, you guys are worth more, which they were. But in the end, I said, both are going to do great and it's sad that you're no longer friends. But that's the thing. This is a classic two cunts in a Zoom. Sometimes they can't laugh.

Speaker 3:
[13:25] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[13:25] Sometimes they can't laugh. Not everyone is Brandi and Julie.

Speaker 3:
[13:29] So anyway, that's true.

Speaker 1:
[13:30] That is true. The longevity is hard between two cunts.

Speaker 3:
[13:34] But anyway, do you think that you'll ever do the her come on?

Speaker 1:
[13:37] I would love to have her come on. And also, I don't think Alex Cooper is a fan of mine because after she got her big first Spotify deal for like 60 million, which is like chump change for now, I listened to it and I remember I was listening to it while I was like driving to my son's Catholic all boy school and I'm listening to it and it was back when she was still dirty before she thought she was like the White Oprah with the note cards and she was like, you're having a moment. Tell me what you were thinking. You know, that's how our interviews are now, which is fine. She gets good people, people like it. But and I thought that is the way you should go because you can't talk about sucking dick forever. But when I listened to it, I did this impression on my show and I sometimes think, oh, I wonder if she ever heard that she probably hates you, you'll never be on the show. But now that I'm in this place, I think I'm doing fine and I can say what I think of everybody from two cunts in a zoom to to call her daddy. But it was like this. She was like, hello, daddy gang. I'm sucking dick so hard. I walked in and there were all these executives and they were like, yeah, I thought I had to get on my knees, get on your knees, you motherfuckers, because I got the fucking Spotify. It was insane what I heard. So I immediately went and I had never even listened to her show before. Some people were like, oh my God, Heather, that was the funniest thing I ever heard. She's doing great. She's gorgeous. She got married. She's going to get through this. She's still going to be rich forever. Hopefully, this doesn't affect her relationship with her husband and they can work it out so that, you know.

Speaker 3:
[15:20] Hopefully, it doesn't affect our relationship with her because we definitely don't want it. We're not like you. We don't have it like that. We're like, hey, we can come sleep the floors.

Speaker 2:
[15:30] I love sucking dicks.

Speaker 1:
[15:31] I'll suck all the dicks. I still go on Caller Daddy and say, I like that you changed. You're smart. You can only give so many dicks sucking tips in so many episodes. You run out. There's only so many things of drink some hot water. Do this thing. Tickle the both. I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[15:51] Do the pineapple.

Speaker 1:
[15:52] There's only so many.

Speaker 3:
[15:52] Put the mint in your mouth.

Speaker 1:
[15:53] Exactly. I mean, you know, Julie.

Speaker 2:
[15:55] I do. How many? Eat the cherries. Drink some coffee laced with other tea. Cue the thing where you go, where you jump up and down. One arm to the right and then slap. Who doesn't like that move?

Speaker 1:
[16:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:12] Ball balls. Yeah, very creative. Ball balls. Create a cavern.

Speaker 1:
[16:17] I mean, in anything I have defended Alex Cooper along the way and saying, you know, maybe she is a hard worker. She's done the show for 10 years. Maybe Alex Earle just wasn't into doing the work that it takes to be creative and funny and interesting every week. So anyway, but then, of course, we get to hear from the person that knows when I see this on a TikTok, my butthole clenches because we've all been on a plane before. Okay. And when I see a flight attendant who's like, Hi, I've been on a plane with on one time it was Alex Cooper and one time it was Alex Earle. And I'm going to tell you about it. And reality check, please found her. So they were the one that put it on here. So thank you for that. But so this girl, I'm like, Oh, God, this girl is going to like tell on them. Like, what is it? But she had a pretty compelling story. And it wasn't your typical, they didn't look me in the eye or they were rude or whatever. So she shows this photo of her behind and she's very cute blonde young thing. And wearing her little conservative, you know, flight attendant outfit. And she said one time, Alex Cooper was on the plane and Alex Cooper was like, you're so cute, can I take a photo of you? And took a photo of her and then posted it and mocked her looks and said, what do you think this girl's name is? Is it Karen? Is it Franny? Is it Jan? Is it? And she goes, and I woke up the next day to like complete cyber bullying and people mocking my looks and my face and everything. And she goes, and then there was another time when I was on a flight and Alex Earle came. And it was the morning that my grandmother died. And I was like wiping off tears. And I was like, Oh, hello. And Alex Earle is known for being very sensitive and vulnerable and sweet. And she was exactly that. She like said, Is everything OK? And she goes, Oh, my God, it's like I know who you are. And she's like, Are you OK? And so then she gave her a hug and she was sweet and even wrote her after and responded. And so she's like, so that's her story. But I think there's probably tons of stories of people who can say that, you know, Alex Cooper saved their puppy that was crossing the street. I don't know their stories, but, you know, I can't believe the poor judgment of taking a photo. Remember that one girl that like took a video of a girl who was like in the gym bathroom?

Speaker 3:
[18:58] In the locker room.

Speaker 1:
[18:58] In the locker room and was like posted it and said, I had to see it, so now you have to see it. And she like was like a sportscaster. She lost everything. And I'm like, and, you know, to think that you can do that, to just somebody that's like working. And that was really, really poor judgment. Now, I don't know how many years ago it was. I think she's probably mortified to like know that she did that. And hopefully she reaches out to this girl and. Offers her a podcast.

Speaker 3:
[19:27] One of the things that Alix Earle does is, I mean, sorry, Alix Cooper, is that she'll go like, I saw this girl at the other table, like, don't send your steak back, Courtney. So she'll make up names.

Speaker 1:
[19:38] Oh, so that's kind of her mocking thing.

Speaker 3:
[19:41] Yeah, to make fun of women doing bad things, to put herself above them. Like whatever it may be, like nice Honda, Linda or whatever. So she was.

Speaker 1:
[19:52] Oh, okay. So that was her little funny shtick, but that's someone else's experience.

Speaker 3:
[19:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:57] That's what you do in private.

Speaker 3:
[19:58] That's really dark.

Speaker 1:
[19:59] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[19:59] That really, if it's true, that really is dark.

Speaker 2:
[20:02] That is dark. That's what you mean.

Speaker 1:
[20:03] That's what you do on two cunts in a Zoom and then you don't put it in the show.

Speaker 2:
[20:08] Yeah, even an even a bigger cunt knows to edit that.

Speaker 1:
[20:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:13] The producer cunt says cunts, you can't do that.

Speaker 3:
[20:15] And I just want to like full disclosure, Julie and I did on a Patreon. It was not video on a plane, you know, with one of those dumb fuck. I hate those tiny, you know, the tiny, you know, the little microphones where everyone's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're on a plane, right. So we have those. We look like, hey, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:34] Hey, guys. Welcome to my channel. What a day it's been. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[20:38] So the woman is gorgeous and she's French or Belgian or something.

Speaker 2:
[20:42] The flight attendant.

Speaker 3:
[20:42] Yeah. So we're already like, her hair is in this most beautiful, like French twist. When I tell you this woman was beautiful. So like, first of all, it wouldn't matter what two cunts on the airplane are saying with their tiny dumb mics. And that was before those mics even took over. People were like, what is that furry bullshit? Like ours has a furry thing on it.

Speaker 2:
[20:59] Why are there two drunk hags talking into a tiny furry hole?

Speaker 3:
[21:02] So we're talking and like we she was not into us. You know what I mean? Obviously, I was drinking like alcohol out of my purse. And so we did somewhat like, well, one of our friends like classified it that we were mocking her, but we didn't think of it that way because she could not hear. She was French and didn't even really speak English. And she was gorgeous and beautiful. And we were just making fun of how she thought we were gross.

Speaker 2:
[21:29] Right.

Speaker 3:
[21:30] So but no one could hear.

Speaker 2:
[21:31] Those two pigs in the back, what are they doing back there? Are they eating off the floor? They're disgusting. Like, I am so beautiful. Like we were, yes.

Speaker 3:
[21:41] Yeah. But we were also laughing. But someone did classify it as mocking and it like kind of stuck with us like forever.

Speaker 2:
[21:46] And then we felt bad.

Speaker 3:
[21:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:48] Because we were having laughing so hard and thinking we're making fun of ourselves.

Speaker 3:
[21:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:53] Knowing how beautiful she was or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[21:55] That's interesting because that was the next video I saw. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[21:59] It turns out it was the same woman. But she meant was it was us.

Speaker 2:
[22:04] We know. The thing was going on the plane. Though I will say Brandi is the creator of this. If we ever get recognized on the plane and if we have magazines, that's been the thing. Us magazine, People magazine, any kind of magazine though I'm sure nobody travels to magazines anymore. She gives the magazine to the flight attendant and they are so like they love it. Like, Oh my God, thank you, because it's like you gave them something for the next two hours to look at. And it's just like a little thing that Brandi sort of came up with.

Speaker 3:
[22:36] But I only do that to get free alcohol.

Speaker 1:
[22:40] I have been lucky enough to. Yeah, but you're doing it at the end of the day. You got to do it at the beginning. I mean, the end of the flight, you got to do the beginning of the flight.

Speaker 3:
[22:47] Once we're done, because Julie buys all the magazines and then she's like, I'm done.

Speaker 1:
[22:51] Mid-flight when your drink is empty, why? I have gotten given an entire bottle of Chardonnay as I leave. Where some guy is just like, I got you, girl.

Speaker 3:
[23:05] That's good.

Speaker 1:
[23:07] Speaking of which, there is this guy, Jacob Higgins, who has taken off on TikTok because he was staying at the Marriott in Westbury, New York. And he would do these stories where he'd go in the bathroom and he had a big glass, a huge glass of Chardonnay. Oh no, it was Chardonnay, it was Sauvignon Blanc. And he was like, hey, everybody, you know, and he does this intro and people have used his sound now about going to the courtyard Marriott in Westbury and getting a bigger pour than normal at the hotel bar. Like find that bartender that just like pours it to the brim. And one of his videos, he quoted me. Like he said, Heather McDonald once said that a lobster is not as delicious to eat with an iced tea unless that iced tea is from Long Island. So, you know, this is why I'm drinking and whatever. So it's very lovely. It was very lovely. Love him. But in the end, both of them are gorgeous. Both of them are ridiculously rich and successful and well known and great personalities.

Speaker 3:
[24:10] And I do think that Alex Cooper is just going to have a little bit, a little bit more of a dip when that book comes out. I think she'll obviously she's going to come out on top. But her kind of like crappy little like situation this year, I don't think it's over yet.

Speaker 1:
[24:28] Yeah. I think it's a bit of a pile on it too. And it's all kind of coming out. And yeah, I don't know what the advice would be to do it. If you just ignore it and keep putting out, you know, her show is now just like one on one interviews with big names. So you can just keep putting those out. She's not someone that overly like talks about herself or cares about herself. So maybe you just keep doing to keep. I would just maybe I would just like not address it, you know. And but who knows? But it's juicy to talk about. It's interesting. OK, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives are resuming production. Thank God. You know, I thought that they were maybe going to move to Newport and keep just a few girls and get some Newport Mormons there and do the whole thing. But according to TMZ, no, they're going to be back in Utah filming it. And and they also said Taylor Frankie Paul will eventually return. So I don't think she's doing it right now. I think they want her to do better. She did a video recently where she was playing piano and she had a hoodie on. And she was like, just started playing piano and whatever. And I was like, it was the second time I saw it. And I'm like, show your face. This isn't you.

Speaker 3:
[25:50] And it was good playing the piano.

Speaker 1:
[25:51] Yeah, it was like, like you can't just start playing. And there's no way when we've covered your whole life that we wouldn't know that you are like an accomplished pianist. Like, there's just no way. So I just was like, this is so good, but let's see your face next time. And she was kind of like, and I go, you know, we all remember when you when you made it famous on TikTok because you said you were a grandma with a 20. The way she popped off is her with all the hair came out. And one of those girls, one of those Mormon girls was, and it was like two girls. She's like, these are my daughters and this is my granddaughter. And someone was holding a baby. And between the filters and them being Mormon, I was like, maybe she is like 45. I don't know. Everyone was just like, you look amazing. And so that's really what popped her off. So I'm like, I remember when you did that. And she just was like, ha ha. So she's back to like doing her fun thing. But another video was that she was really quite thin and the stress is taking a toll on her. So obviously she is on some supervised visitation with her younger son, which could be really hard. So I hope they work that out.

Speaker 3:
[26:56] But that's awful.

Speaker 1:
[26:56] I mean, we might as well. I mean, we might as well see it all. We're all watching it on the internet. So they might as well keep filming and make their money and have us see it as long as the kids are not being affected.

Speaker 3:
[27:08] Look, I don't want to get political, but I'm just going to say this. I think the moment that, you know, grabbing them by the puss, puss, made it, I just think in this day and age, just like Alex Cooper keeping the YouTube games on with a lot of like dubious characters. I think it's the age of like, roll the bachelorette. You've already filmed it. I heard they're not doing that because it's boring.

Speaker 1:
[27:33] I know that's a good rumor too. That like that, that it might have kind of sucked anyway, and it might have buried them, the franchise even further than it's been buried, you know, because it was like, Oh my God, even with a major star, this is just not what people want to watch anymore.

Speaker 3:
[27:49] And you deviated out of Bachelordation. So now the fans are mad, but I'm like, if they, I heard rumors they were going to cancel this. And I was like legitimately upset, like on the phone with my therapist. I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do because another thing that they do is their turnaround is so fast. That's another like thing that has changed the industry.

Speaker 1:
[28:08] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[28:08] They talk about the show. They talk about their fighting over their salaries. And I'm like, if they keep just being innovative, like, yeah, we don't care. We literally don't care.

Speaker 2:
[28:18] There's 17,000 episodes of Duck Dynasty, which are not to get political, but lean in or get in or deal with it.

Speaker 1:
[28:27] I came across this girl in my feed and she was sitting on a private plane. And she's like, so a lot of you have been asking me what some of my things about me that you wouldn't know are. I am a fan of designer bags. No shit, you're on a plane. I have exotic bags and you should ask my husband about why he's building me a bigger closet. And it was so, it was all about the wealth. But guess what? I started to watch a lot of it. And I'm like, and I, because I'm like, I don't know anyone like this. I don't know what this kind of wealth like is in Dallas. And she's attractive. And I'm like, that is what Real Housewife Reality was. It's for you to see someone that, whose life you are not living yourself. So if that is that you gotten some shit or you're a teenage mother.

Speaker 3:
[29:27] Teen mom. Look at teen mom.

Speaker 1:
[29:29] Yeah, a teen mom. You're like, what is that like? Are you a teen mom? Are you a Duck Dynasty person?

Speaker 2:
[29:34] Are you?

Speaker 3:
[29:35] Honey Boo Boo. Yeah, honey. I like great one.

Speaker 2:
[29:37] Toddlers and Tiaras, even the Tiger King.

Speaker 1:
[29:39] So the reality shows are not to show exemplatory lives of how you should live and fashion your family after. They are escapism and you're watching real people and you get to go inside their home and watch it. So that's why people don't care when criminals come back out. And they will watch it, even if they hate them, it doesn't matter, even if they're like, you're wrong, you stole from those people. I mean, I think probably the only thing where a person would not be re-accepted back on TV is if they did a deliberate murder, like not a car accident murder, and also a pedophile. Yes, those are like the cheaters. But everything else, you can be a grifter, you could be a hooker, you could be a massive cheater, you could do a Ponzi scheme, you could do it all.

Speaker 2:
[30:32] Look at The Bachelor, one man choosing out of 26 women or ever. It's the most sexist, grossest thing, but we love it. We want to, why are we moralizing?

Speaker 1:
[30:42] From day one, that first guy, we were like, he's gay, the San Francisco one. Heather, can you look up at the first Bachelor from San Francisco, if he ever did marry? He's got to be like 50 now.

Speaker 3:
[30:55] I mean, at this point, how long?

Speaker 1:
[30:57] Oh my God, I totally remember where I was. Like, what year was it? Look at that up. It was definitely after 2000, because I was married.

Speaker 3:
[31:04] I thought it was 2002, but let's see, because it was right after American Idol, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:
[31:09] Okay. And is he married? And what is his husband's name?

Speaker 3:
[31:18] I mean, what about Anna Delvey? I mean, bring it on.

Speaker 2:
[31:21] Oh my God, bring all of it. I want to watch all of it. I am not one.

Speaker 1:
[31:24] I feel like we are over Anna Delvey. I personally am. I don't know what else there is to do.

Speaker 3:
[31:28] What if they did a reality show?

Speaker 2:
[31:30] Yeah. Like a reality show. I don't believe in the idea of not, I don't like, or I should say I'm against this idea of like, censoring or not platforming something that you don't agree with. Or that maybe even like this, which, you know, I just don't agree with it.

Speaker 1:
[31:48] The great thing about me is that I do change my mind. So I really was like, I did not think at that time that they should air The Bachelorette. I really didn't. I just thought we all just saw the throwing of the bar stool. Do I think they could play it later when she's better? And we're watching it, like bring it like on in like three months. And we know that, you know, she's back with her kid and she's done her work and she's, you know, doing much better. And she's like, now let's show me dating this guy. Then I think we could. I just don't think it was right to show it like that week. And that's when it was going to premiere. Yes. Is he married? He's not gay. He's married with kids. To a woman, though.

Speaker 2:
[32:30] To a woman.

Speaker 1:
[32:32] Good for him.

Speaker 2:
[32:33] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[32:33] Good for him. See, I'm not right about everything.

Speaker 3:
[32:36] We still could be gay, to be fair.

Speaker 2:
[32:39] And we don't have to be right about everything. And that's also the great thing about reality TV, which we say all the time. I'll literally change my mind about someone from one hour to the next.

Speaker 3:
[32:47] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:48] It's okay.

Speaker 2:
[32:49] Because who cares?

Speaker 3:
[32:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:50] Yeah, we're not. It's like, you know, that's a thing. And everything in life, you gain more information, you can change your mind.

Speaker 2:
[32:57] And I fully support and stand by Taylor, Frankie, Paul. That was in 2023 what happened. I think Dakota is a manipulative, abusive, horrible pig. And what she did was wrong, obviously, but she did do her work. And I do think that she didn't do her work.

Speaker 1:
[33:13] She attacked him after. She just attacked him in February.

Speaker 3:
[33:16] But that was not the video from February. That was not the video.

Speaker 1:
[33:19] But the other one was a physical attack.

Speaker 3:
[33:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:22] Listen, she has a problem with being physical and having anger. And I do think that takes a very long time.

Speaker 3:
[33:29] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[33:30] To get over. And, you know, but could it, you know, listen, there are people that are toxic couples and then they go on to marry other people and they actually do have a good marriage. There are sometimes when two people are just fire and fire or whatever. And it is really bad. And I mean, there's been text messages we've seen and stuff. And, you know, he was like, you know, come over and there was something that she even said, it gets me hot to think of him screwing somebody else. Right. It's a very sick thing.

Speaker 3:
[34:00] Because that incident with the Barstool, which was horrific and awful after he locked her in the garage until she was revved up away from her kids, he locked her in the garage. He still wouldn't had a baby with her. She didn't have that baby yet. That was prior to him having a baby with her.

Speaker 1:
[34:16] Right.

Speaker 3:
[34:16] He never, he did this to her right before she went to film. And I'm not excusing any of it, but, you know, you know, toxic love.

Speaker 2:
[34:25] But she got the brunt of it and he didn't get anything. He was seen as some sort of victim. And we know you're not a victim, Dakota. We know you're not a victim.

Speaker 1:
[34:34] Well, speaking of the brunt of it, have you heard about this Patriots coach that was married with kids and he was seen like cuddling with this sports reporter? Do you know about this, Drake? He was cuddling with a sports reporter in Sedona. No, he's, he's like pretty cute, normal looking and like has a wife and kids.

Speaker 3:
[34:55] Like canoodling or cuddling?

Speaker 1:
[34:58] Like holding hands, like kissing and holding hands in Sedona. And she immediately got fired from her sports reporting job. And then he just said, hey guys, like, I'm talking to my family. I need to apologize to some people. I know I'm supposed to be someone that you all look up to. And then he's not fired, which is fine that he's not fired, but it just, once again, it's the woman who's like burned at the stake.

Speaker 2:
[35:22] Always, always, always, always, always. Even sex work, when you think about it, why does sex work even exist on the planet? Why?

Speaker 1:
[35:30] Because there's a market for it.

Speaker 2:
[35:31] Which are what?

Speaker 1:
[35:32] Men.

Speaker 2:
[35:33] Correct. And yet, who gets arrested?

Speaker 1:
[35:37] The hooker.

Speaker 2:
[35:39] Who gets...

Speaker 1:
[35:39] Which I always thought if I was ever going to be a cop, I only wanted to be doing undercover vice because of the outfits. Though I know I'd be very gay.

Speaker 3:
[35:47] Oh, so you could dress like a hooker?

Speaker 1:
[35:48] Yeah, I always thought that I could do. I'm not running down the street chasing someone climbing over a fence. But I could go, hey, hey, you lonely tonight? Back when hookers had to walk on the street?

Speaker 2:
[35:59] Street walkers.

Speaker 1:
[36:00] Yeah, street walkers. And then try to entrap a John.

Speaker 2:
[36:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:04] That's how I was going to get back to society if I was going to be a cop. But I knew I just couldn't pass the test.

Speaker 2:
[36:10] I feel like that might be your next TV show.

Speaker 3:
[36:13] Yeah, scripted.

Speaker 2:
[36:15] I think that's it. I think I'm a little old.

Speaker 3:
[36:17] It takes a place in the 70s. Downtown LA and Heather would be getting the men.

Speaker 1:
[36:24] That's what I think about. The fact that we all went with like, smiles on and wanting the life of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. She was sucking dirty dicks of Sunset Boulevard, living and it was like, I remember watching it and she's like, yeah, my mom said, remember she's like in bed with her. She's like, my mom said, if there was a bum, I'd find him from a mile away. I'm like, aren't you only 21? How many bums have you met? Then I'm like, really, you came to Hollywood and you had to go straight to being a hooker, like you couldn't be a stripper, you couldn't be like a cocktail waitress, like straight to just meeting that other girl about how to, what do we say, no kissing on the lips and whatever, take your money. But it made for a good movie and we all just thought it was fine.

Speaker 2:
[37:14] Oh, thought it was fine. Then with the thing and the pearls and how cute and hilarious that is.

Speaker 1:
[37:20] I don't know why she had to be, you know what? I know it was like a My Fair Lady modern day hooker story, but I don't know that she had to be a hooker. I think if we were to redo it today, I guess she would just have OnlyFans.

Speaker 3:
[37:33] She has OnlyFans.

Speaker 2:
[37:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:34] Which is great. It's like stay in your house.

Speaker 2:
[37:36] But you know what, if she's an OnlyFans, we don't need Richard Gere at that point. She's making more money than him. So she can stay right in her home.

Speaker 1:
[37:44] Who has no class, eats pancakes with her hands.

Speaker 3:
[37:47] But I love that part. It's my favorite part of the movie.

Speaker 1:
[37:49] I know. I was like, why have I never thought. I do it every time. But there was a time when I was making pancakes and I was like, just eat them with your hands. It's good enough for Julie Roberts. It's good enough for you.

Speaker 3:
[37:56] I still do it to this day. I eat it like that. So good. It like changed the whole experience for me.

Speaker 1:
[38:01] And then she's like sitting on the table. Like she doesn't know how to sit on a chair. I'm like, she's from Georgia.

Speaker 2:
[38:05] She's not Tarzan. We didn't find her. Like, oh, what is this? Like she's a human woman.

Speaker 1:
[38:16] I can't believe it. Your dream coming true. That's the whole sequence where she goes up in the plane and goes to San Francisco. Mine are broken. Mine are broken. These glasses are broken.

Speaker 3:
[38:30] Oh, there's a band.

Speaker 1:
[38:33] Oh, did you like it dear? Oh, yeah, it was so good. I was peed in my pants. She said it was better than Pirates of Penzance. Oh, okay. You can see how many times I've watched it because I wanted to be a hooker. I don't want I didn't actually want to have. I never wanted to have the sex. Yeah, I wanted to be the hooker that said, Oh, most of my clients, they just go to dinner and they I talk to them because I'm like, I love to eat. I love to talk. I can talk to any fucking loser and if it meant a meal. And I did that in life. I would just meet guys.

Speaker 3:
[39:05] Your mom was a hooker drink.

Speaker 1:
[39:06] Go get meals and then go home.

Speaker 3:
[39:10] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] I'd drive my own car. I wouldn't drink very much. I would get an appetizer, a salad and an entree. And I never just got a pasta. It had to have lobster on it. I could hear my mom get that shellfish before you leave. You know how much that costs. And I'd eat my face off. And then I would say goodbye.

Speaker 3:
[39:33] Lovely to meet you, warmest regards.

Speaker 1:
[39:35] Goodbye.

Speaker 3:
[39:36] Best of luck in the future.

Speaker 2:
[39:37] All women wanted to feel with Pretty Woman was that you're an underdog and then you're taken seriously. Somebody finds you beautiful. You fall in love and you get to get revenge on all the bitches who treated you like shit. Big, big, huge, big mistake. Bethany even did it.

Speaker 1:
[39:54] Huge, two cunts in a zoo.

Speaker 2:
[39:55] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[39:56] Huge. I gotta go shopping now.

Speaker 2:
[40:00] I mean, Bethany did it. Big mistake, Chanel. Big mistake, Chanel. It's like the level that Pretty Woman got into the heart and soul of women for that feeling of like, you will not demean me. You will not treat me like shit. I am worth something. Big mistake. Goodbye.

Speaker 1:
[40:19] And don't forget. What was the big mistake? It was that she was with a guy who had a credit card. It wasn't. She wasn't Bethany Frankel who could afford it. She was just like, I had a $3,000 gig this week and I get to go shop.

Speaker 2:
[40:36] But that's the feeling that you're left with, which is made for a great movie.

Speaker 1:
[40:41] All right. Now let's talk about the Summer House. I want to get your opinion of Kyle, his soon to be ex-wife, Amanda falling in love with Amanda's best friend's former boyfriend, West, and they recently said, this is serious, we are in love, and we are going to really try to make a go of this. This is not a one-time small fling that we regret. We don't regret it. What do you think?

Speaker 3:
[41:13] I feel first and foremost, I mean, I'm not finishing Summer House. I find it really triggering and unannoying. I know that Tom Sandoval, and I wanted to say this with love, we worked with Tom on a whole TV show. We just saw him recently with you. He's been humbled and he's very nice, and he always has been nice to us. He had a reputation as a douche. I'm sure himself could admit he leaned into that. He was the big douche on the show. I mean, and so at times he came across very unlikable, like when he was straightening his hair and putting makeup on and stuff and shaving his forehead. And I think that just lent the whole the whole scandal all hinged on the fact that I guess he was unlikable to people. And Ariana was never really a very liked person on the show either simply by her relation to Tom. In this case, it really, really bothers me that Summer House is not as popular as Vanderpump, but it really bugs that she's not, that he is not, Kyle is not getting the treatment that Ariana got. Because he is a nice guy and he has been working hard. He has a great work ethic. He has stayed consistent who he is from the beginning. We've watched it from the beginning. And a lot of people are acting like Ciara is the victim and she is because her friend fucked her over and so did West. But the real victim in all of it is Kyle. And his friend fucked him over because they were good friends. They were living in the same house. He was close with him and his wife cheated on him with his friend. Kyle to me should be the main person that, and he still is being talked bad about. Amanda is still getting like she's giving people make excuses for her. People make excuses for West. And I'm like, I disagree.

Speaker 1:
[43:06] I think they're very mad at both of them. I feel like the fans are mad at Amanda and West.

Speaker 3:
[43:12] I hope they are because I just don't see enough like about what I see a lot about what Amanda did to Sierra. And that's true. But I don't see enough about what West did to Kyle as a friend and what Amanda did. You know, and also she's a hoarder.

Speaker 1:
[43:29] Who's Amanda? Amanda's a hoarder?

Speaker 3:
[43:30] That's what Kyle said.

Speaker 1:
[43:32] Oh, really? Well, I think, well, Kyle was seen this past weekend with Megan King Edmonds, formerly of Real Housewives of OC in New York. And she's quite tall and they caught them kissing. And, you know, so she's like taller than he. And then I also saw that she's like getting a real estate license in New York.

Speaker 3:
[43:54] Where doesn't she live in the OC?

Speaker 1:
[43:56] No, I think she moved. I don't know, because then that awful thing happened where she lost custody of her kids, except for the summer. So maybe she's just living in New York and is going to live her life in New York. And then the kids will spend New York in this. They'll spend the summer in New York. I don't know what she's doing.

Speaker 2:
[44:13] I love Kyle so much. Yes, I really love Kyle. Manda, Manda, Manda, Manda, Manda, Manda. I just love him. I think he's so nice and he's like a catch. Like as a person who doesn't, you know, get with men and stuff, even though I love sucking deck. He's, he's such a catch. The man works hard. He's, you know, he has his issues. And I, I understand that he drinks and he goes out and maybe he's had his dalliances or whatever. But I do think that guy is a catch. Like he just, he's, he just is, I just love, I just love him.

Speaker 3:
[44:47] He's very influential on us. We were drinking rosé straight out of the bottle. We were like, let's send it. We come home now. We eat after we're drunk. He eats every time he goes in the kitchen. Yeah. He works out the next day. We like took his entire lifestyle on. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2:
[45:02] I just love it.

Speaker 1:
[45:03] I love it and I love him and I hope he like, There was someone said, oh my God, you know, there was a scene where now they're watching it with a fine tooth, you know, comb or whatever, not fine tooth, but really looking at every scene that they're together. And he hugs her and kisses her cheek. Wes does it a man and they kind of hold each other longer. I think what I've kissed other people other sometimes when men greet me that are not my husband, you know, we'll give you a kiss on the cheek. I don't think that's that way. But so then Andy asked Jesse who's on the show, when exactly did you first know about Amanda and West hooking up? And he said, I had my suspicions, but I did not know until they made their joint statement. And they both denied it to my face when he would ask multiple times. And he did say, West is still his friend because he's always been a really good friend to him. And he's like, I wish he was a little more humble and took a little more responsibility. And he says, I believe he will come with like, come at is going to come with aggression at the reunion. And he was like, really? Yeah, Jesse thinks he will. He's like going to defend himself and not be like all apologetic.

Speaker 2:
[46:18] I love that these guys have any one, even an ounce, even Jesse, who I know he isn't like a monster, but he is a lying little two faced F boy who will do anything to anyone who told Sierra to her face that he wanted to make out with her as a joke. He's constantly undermining. He's a complete little misogynist little pig. And I do think and so is West. And even though West, we, you know, I want to like more because he's like progressive and stuff.

Speaker 3:
[46:45] But like he, we don't like all Democrats.

Speaker 2:
[46:49] But like he's also again, they are users of women to a point that I know they're young and they could change and they evolve and all of that stuff. But right now, in the phase of these men's lives, I find them off putting and I don't appreciate having a take on any of this when they would do this at any point. Jesse would fuck his-

Speaker 3:
[47:13] He probably wanted to give his Amanda.

Speaker 2:
[47:15] Yeah, and I think he would get with Amanda even now. Like they can all just save it.

Speaker 1:
[47:19] Whenever there's an affair type of situation, and I said this during Scandival, the only way that you truly can come back from it and get society to love you again, is if it lasts forever. Yes. Because if they do get married and have kids, whatever or even stay or now kids and stay together like five, ten years, then you're going to go, yeah, you know what? It was a proximity type relationship, and it really did work, and you do date people, that's what they call it, they say, that's a commandment. You do not covet thy neighbor's wife because it's your neighbor. It's right there. It's in the next room in their case. So it's like you shouldn't do it, but you're in the same friend group, the proximity just like a work fuck or whatever happens. So it's like, who knows? Maybe they will.

Speaker 3:
[48:12] Well, I did say that I thought Raquel, I was like, get pregnant right away, make it work you two, Raquel and Tom. I was like, keep it, go the distance, get that baby. And I mean, I think, you know, Raquel's doing sound baths and I will say like, we enjoy sound baths. You can just have Heather do that.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] We were hiring her, like, and probably because it's like you get her and then you get some scoop from her and then there were no scoop and you're like, oh, we got with a sound bath. But she does the sound bath, she's like engaged to somebody that's like a rocket scientist, hope he doesn't go missing. And I just like the 12 others, there's a 12th now.

Speaker 3:
[48:53] I mean, aliens.

Speaker 1:
[48:53] But whatever coincidence has happened. And then, yeah, so she's doing fine. But yeah, that's the situation. Okay, Rhode Island. I am, let's just.

Speaker 3:
[49:05] By the way, your audience is going to like crucify me. They hate when I, because I always go on the guy side.

Speaker 2:
[49:11] I just did.

Speaker 3:
[49:12] Okay, good. Well, they, you know, you're a guy.

Speaker 2:
[49:15] Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but you know I'm not.

Speaker 3:
[49:19] I'm standing by with Kyle. You know, I'm standing by with Kyle.

Speaker 2:
[49:22] I stand by it with Kyle too. And I usually always go with the women.

Speaker 1:
[49:25] But you know, they always say that he was cheating and out late and everything. But we never really had any real evidence that he did, right?

Speaker 3:
[49:32] Like, you know, she always says that casually.

Speaker 1:
[49:35] I like took a photo of herself, like in bed with him or anything like that.

Speaker 2:
[49:40] Actually, what do you mean?

Speaker 1:
[49:40] I think he just like to go out and stay out late and drink and party.

Speaker 3:
[49:43] I think he liked it well before they were married, where he was blackout.

Speaker 1:
[49:47] That's right.

Speaker 3:
[49:47] But that was so long ago. Julie brings it up. There has never been any proof. He just he's a DJ and he's out late. And she was, I guess, on the phone with West all night, smoking her pot or whatever she was doing. I mean, you know, and they were not compatible. So I do get that for her. I just think for West to do that is so I'm not even as mad at her as I am at the fact that West did that. And nobody is the way they crucified Tom. Tom and Ariana weren't even married.

Speaker 1:
[50:17] And here's the thing. If it was happening earlier than they're admitting to, which I think it was, I think they were meeting places, taking walks in the morning. I don't know. It was happening. And I think then when you look, if you believe that and you see her upset and crying about Kyle and her husband, and Sierra is just like, why can't you see how special you are? Just being that super supportive friend. And now if you do believe that nothing happened until after that, then that makes them less horrific. But if it was happening and she was still taking that love and support from her friend and being deceptive, then that's pretty bad.

Speaker 3:
[50:59] That was so bad.

Speaker 2:
[51:00] Yeah, so bad.

Speaker 1:
[51:01] Okay, now Rhode Island. I just want to tell you guys about Rhode Island.

Speaker 2:
[51:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:04] I'm going to watch you in a little bit. It honestly, you need to stop. You need to get a diet like a whole board of every single person and what they've done. I have never seen any housewives show.

Speaker 3:
[51:19] Like the thing with the strings that go like that.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] Yes, that have more like cheating and the cheating rumors, the actual cheating, the affairs, all of it. The only person that doesn't have a crazy ass past is the girl who met her husband on The Bachelor, Ashley High. She's the only one that's like living a normal life even though, and she came from reality TV. She has the most normal life. The one girl married was pining, rubbing one out to her sister's boyfriend when he'd come over and take her to prom. And then she's like, I'm going to get him. And then she marries him, Joella. And then while she goes and is selling some medical supplies, the unmarried childless sister comes over, child free, sorry, child free sister comes over to take care of the kids. And the way they shoot it, it's very flirty. I know they're like doing it because they're producers, but that's weird. Then we have the other girl who's very rich, who looks like Dolores if Dolores lost 10 pounds. And her whole thing is that her husband, who they've been together a long time, but he has like older kids, he would go spearfishing or something for three weeks and then tell his friend, watch, make sure you watch my wife. Who says that? Who needs to watch? Who tells their friend, go check on my wife? I've never in my life.

Speaker 2:
[52:44] A person with a girlfriend.

Speaker 3:
[52:46] And I'd be annoyed. Like don't say Larry.

Speaker 1:
[52:49] You think the husband has a girlfriend and so that's why he doesn't feel bad that his friend is coming over and screwing her?

Speaker 3:
[52:55] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[52:56] I do.

Speaker 1:
[52:56] On the boat? So then she's like, oh my God, there is nothing with this guy. And then there's this other girl who people said, oh, originally, allegedly rumored to have been a, you know, call girl, whatever you want to call it, hooker light. And then she gets with this guy and she goes, yeah, I'm like a sugar baby, I love it, because he's with this other lady for 10, six months out of the year. And then when I'm alone, I bring this other weird blonde West look like around. And I mean, it is so confusing. I literally had to go, wait a minute, like I had to stop, I had to rewind. I am like, oh my God, but it's entertaining. I mean, I'm like, how, when you compare this to the fact that nothing happened in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, literally nothing happened in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And very little as far as like big moments. And this was almost too much.

Speaker 3:
[53:49] This is almost too fucking much. My criticism when it first came on was like, I'm sick of Bravo and their casting, cause Atlanta, the year of when that whole thing happened with Kenya, they got into way too salacious casting and it blew up in their face. So when I first started this, they came in so hot. I was like, wow, first episode and we're already into someone's like husband cheating.

Speaker 2:
[54:13] Are you having an affair?

Speaker 3:
[54:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:15] Like at your first lunch.

Speaker 1:
[54:16] Yeah, this girl has a podiatrist husband who's like completely has an affair. And there's evidence because the girl he's having an affair with posted about it on Facebook.

Speaker 3:
[54:25] With them like her sitting in his lap.

Speaker 1:
[54:27] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[54:28] That was, so I was-

Speaker 1:
[54:30] And then the other girl's like, mind your own business. It's like, well, tell the mistress not to put it on Facebook.

Speaker 3:
[54:35] And then they called her job, that's Joelle and she's my favorite one, but they called her job and then tried to get her fired because she sent the photo of the guy with the mistress, which was all over the internet. But so what I want to say is that-

Speaker 1:
[54:47] To a friend as if you wouldn't do that. Yeah. As if you wouldn't do that. You know this girl's in your neighborhood, you're like, this bitch thinks she's got the perfect life. I cannot believe I just found this on Facebook. What the hell is- And it could have been even out of a little bit of love and concern, like, holy shit, do we tell them, do we not? And then of course, the reaction is, let's ruin this girl's life because she knows that I'm married to a cheater.

Speaker 3:
[55:11] Well, they called her and I guess Joellen wasn't friends with her. She told one of her friends, the friends called and said, my friend has the photo. Then the woman called Joellen directly and was like, send me the photo, please. And she's like, I really don't want to, I really don't want to, I don't want to send you this photo because she knew. And then the minute the woman saw it, she was like, like lost her breath. And then, and you know, she hasn't stopped looking at it. Like she probably has probably spent over a thousand hours analyzing like her fucking toes.

Speaker 1:
[55:40] Listen, this show, this show is coming back next season and next season will be her filing a hundred percent. Well, the Ruella filing from the.

Speaker 3:
[55:47] So what I want to say is that, so I was like turned off. I was like, God, Bravo, man. Like it's just too much too fast.

Speaker 1:
[55:54] Like it's so much.

Speaker 3:
[55:55] But then I watched all, I watched all three episodes, Julie and I, and then I watched them all again. And then I was like, really became like, I paid more attention because it is very intricate. I became big fans of all of them. They really do. It's not like they look alike. It's just that you get like easily lost. They sound alike. Right.

Speaker 1:
[56:15] And they all have dark hair. And so you're just kind of like, wait, hold on. Like give me a second. You do kind of have to watch it again.

Speaker 3:
[56:21] I did. And it was so much better. And because they're all very, they're all very cute and they're all very charming and they have their accents. And it got a lot better when I watched it again. And then next week's episode, they are like on some trip also too soon. Why are you already on a cast trip? And then they track the guy. They're like, he's on his way to the mistress. Like they somehow find him.

Speaker 1:
[56:46] The podiatrist?

Speaker 3:
[56:47] Yes. Because she's been saying, he's like, you have my location. You know I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1:
[56:53] He did it on foot.

Speaker 3:
[56:54] And he's got the good orthopedic shoes to run. He threw his phone into the, like, you know, to a barrel.

Speaker 1:
[57:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:01] I love, I do have to say in the same ditto. Also, I'm from New England. So I have like this weird visceral like thing where I'm watching it and I just feel, I can smell it. I can feel it. I can see it. I can, everything about it like is just very homey to me. And also summery to me. It's just weird to like have the sensory like overload with it. But also I have to say, even though I'm from not Rhode Island, but from Boston, who knew pizza chips? I didn't, I didn't know pizza chips.

Speaker 1:
[57:35] She said pizza with no cheese because she said the cheese gets gross in the sun.

Speaker 2:
[57:38] Didn't know.

Speaker 1:
[57:39] All right.

Speaker 2:
[57:40] Didn't know.

Speaker 3:
[57:40] I wasn't against it, but I kind of wished it was cut into slices.

Speaker 1:
[57:43] Yeah, it wasn't chips. It was just a big plate. It's bread.

Speaker 3:
[57:47] It's like, how do you? And they're pulling it apart.

Speaker 1:
[57:50] I mean, but I also say there's one scene where a couple old aunts show up. And I feel like the moments that they have where they're sitting around and talking is really good. Like it's very real. It's very good. You get a couple old aunts who's like, one aunt says, you know what, I want the best for you, but I hope you heard him.

Speaker 2:
[58:08] I hope you heard him. I hope you heard him.

Speaker 1:
[58:11] And they're like laughing and the other girl's like, I had a husband cheated on me so many times. And you know what, it's not fun looking over your shoulder. Like I was just like, yeah, you get that wisdom. We've all met those older aunt people that just like come with the wisdom. And yeah, it's a...

Speaker 3:
[58:28] And they bring all the food.

Speaker 2:
[58:29] They bring all the food.

Speaker 3:
[58:30] There's a lot of food in it, which is fun.

Speaker 2:
[58:31] Like he's wandering. He's what? He's wandering.

Speaker 1:
[58:34] Well, big news, deadline news. I'm gonna make you love my Morgan Wade. She doesn't even walk to Beverly Hills. She doesn't have a TV. But turns out she got asked to be in a new show called Dutton Ranch. It's a spinoff from Yellowstone. Yeah, it's on Paramount and she plays a bartender, which is weird because she's been... I've been sober for a long time, but I do know how to make a drink. And I'm going to be doing that, which I think is interesting because she was so... She loved all the attention she got from being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and then all of a sudden had to tell, Kyle, keep my name out of your mouth, okay? Because I don't want these middle-aged white women being my only fans. I like real country people. I like tattoo people. I like other people and not those people. So those people are fine, but I don't want to be known as the tattooed lesbian that is bringing the world, the housewives to the natural opera or whatever. So good for her.

Speaker 3:
[59:40] So this is not like the reality show with like Kristen Cavallari's like X with the Three Cowboy Brothers.

Speaker 1:
[59:45] This is like a scripted show. It's going to be a new spinoff called Dutton Ranch and she plays the bartender. I think she's great. I think it's perfect. I would cast her myself too. I think she can do it. I think she's capable.

Speaker 3:
[59:58] Do you think she auditioned?

Speaker 1:
[59:59] No. I think she's pretty. I think they offered to her to get an audition and then Kyle Richards wrote Booked and Busy and then Kyle Richards wrote again a bunch of these, this emoji like hands that are like prayer but also clapping. I don't know what it is. Anyway, so good for them.

Speaker 2:
[60:16] Great.

Speaker 3:
[60:17] Super happy to watch someone with no acting experience get an acting job. This doesn't bother us at all. Good for you, Morgan.

Speaker 2:
[60:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[60:23] Congratulations.

Speaker 1:
[60:24] Yeah. Can you imagine all the other people that went for like, and they were all like on. The times that that's happened where you're like, you've gone back a bunch of times. And I remember like going back for the third time and hearing the casting director making the deal for the person that already was booked it, like booked it. And I'm like, and I would still tell myself, oh no, Heather, like you're not hearing it right.

Speaker 3:
[60:48] Like they won't accept the deal. It's crazy. I am a fan of the fact that she didn't audition simply because.

Speaker 1:
[60:55] I don't know if she may have audition. I'm guessing she didn't, but we need to get free.

Speaker 3:
[60:59] We need to move into the era where like you saw me on TV. I'm not auditioning, you know, cause right that whole like bullshit. Yeah. But I don't know. Maybe hopefully she's done it and I'm sure she's good. I mean, remember we can all watch. Remember the video with Kyle where they were kissing and she pushed her against the wall and stuff. I mean, riveting, riveting acting.

Speaker 1:
[61:22] But she's not gay.

Speaker 2:
[61:23] She's not openly gay, is she?

Speaker 1:
[61:25] Pretty lady.

Speaker 2:
[61:27] I don't think she's out.

Speaker 1:
[61:28] No, I had said, I had seen a like small town morning dork show, you know, morning show. And she was like singing in like a tiny room. And she said, that's my husband over there. And I mentioned that in some, she goes and they said, no, she'd always jokingly refer to this guitar player as her husband. I thought like at one time she was in a straight marriage and then was single. So I don't think she's ever declared her sexuality.

Speaker 2:
[61:55] I don't think she has. And I think that she's keeping it. That is the old chestnut of I don't reveal my sexuality.

Speaker 3:
[62:03] Yeah, because the only time it's like, come on, you know, like when people say, are you related to Ron Howard? And I'd go, I'd rather not say, which means obviously no. When someone goes, well, what's your sexuality? And then they'd say, I keep that to myself. And it's like, OK, you're gay. Because otherwise, you're just like, I'm straight or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[62:21] Why am I worried about it? I'm not worried about it. I'm not concerned. I'm proud, in fact, because I'm happy with who I am. And I'm not worried about what anyone else is doing. But now I'm not going to disclose. That's what Ricky Martin did. And I love him more than anyone in the world. But he, before he came out, would say, I don't talk about that anyone who has ever said they don't talk about their sexuality will come out as gay.

Speaker 1:
[62:43] I don't know that anyone has even asked her. Now I think about it.

Speaker 2:
[62:46] Because one would think they wouldn't have to.

Speaker 3:
[62:48] I thought she wrote that song that Kyle really liked when Kyle split in the DMs and it was the one who played us. Because this used to be like one of our favorite things to talk about on walks. Yeah, we go on girl walks and we talk about it. I thought the song was about like a hotel and a girl. And I thought it was overtly.

Speaker 1:
[63:07] The story was that she allegedly, Morgan Wade had a girlfriend. And then she went to Beverly Hills or went to LA and then was possibly hanging out with Kyle. And then that girl came forward in like a video or something to say like, yeah, I was her girlfriend and this is all. And then the song was like, I went to LA and met you in the hotel. Okay, that was secretive and da da da da. And so if you listen to the words of that and the timeline and then this other girl saying like, yeah, that wasn't great. But then, you know, but then of course, you know, and then Kyle, you know, is wearing like a tie in her confessional. And she's like, you know, her whole thing is talking to Erica going, I had someone that in my life that was very special and this person just didn't want to be public and I didn't know what to do if I'm not supposed to talk about this person, what would you do? And Erica's like, I'd protect that person. Not I would protect that man or I protect that woman. That's the person.

Speaker 2:
[64:15] That's the other, that's the other, the other old chestnut.

Speaker 1:
[64:17] What do we think of this season? We're done?

Speaker 2:
[64:19] I love Dorit. I love Dorit. And that's a good point from before. Dorit is the queen.

Speaker 3:
[64:25] That you could change your mind because we used to really dislike Dorit.

Speaker 2:
[64:29] Oh my God. Get your cigarette. It looks like a Marlboro 100. Out of your bag. Tell them that you're, well, I'm not, every single word that comes out of her mouth. I'm like, I love it.

Speaker 3:
[64:41] I have checked the temperature.

Speaker 2:
[64:42] I'm just loving it.

Speaker 3:
[64:43] We don't do a lot of social media, but I checked the temperature on Twitter, expecting everyone to be with us. And a lot of people, they're not, they're with Erica.

Speaker 2:
[64:52] I mean, and I love Erica too, and I don't want them to not be friends. And that is sad. And that sucks.

Speaker 1:
[64:57] There's some moment that's coming in the reunion where, when Dorit, Erica's like, you told me I had to work, you told me I had to work. It's alluding to that Erica had a brief romance with someone who was physically harmful to her, abusive. And she tells that story. And basically they're saying it was Dorit who was like, you have to step it up and like tell your story. Something like that. And so the Erica didn't appreciate that, I guess, even if she wanted to tell it, she eluded to like, you know, and then, and then Dorit was also eluding that fact, you know, you've got to be up Kyle's ass because you could get fired. She can fire someone from the show. And then of course, you know, one of the cunts in the Zoom said, oh, she can't get people fired. No, we all know, no one, no one person, whether it's Lisa Fey or Piper, can get you fired. But if you're the person that's like the queen of the show and no one is going to be on your side and no one's going to film with you anymore because you're like, this person's turned into an asshole and let's not hang with her anymore. That's what it means. It doesn't mean that she carte blanche can like call Annie and go fire Dorit. It doesn't mean that. It just means you want to get on her good side because she kind of is the center of the show.

Speaker 3:
[66:19] Yeah, they put you purposely on an island. They call it that. Jill Zarin invented it. It ultimately ended up biting Jill in the ass, but Jill put Bethany tried to get the whole cast. Don't film with her. Try to put her on an island. Once you're on an island, you're screwed. Now, you're only doing scenes like walking your dog and calling your family on Zoom. You have to be able to film. Also, you can't be in a situation where the cast is completely divided or half the cast will go. Yeah, so and that's kind of happening here, I guess. But yeah, I mean, I wasn't sure what I think they were. I think they were sick of the fact that Dorit was late all the time. She was being a prima donna. She got gained a ton of popularity from smoking the cigarette in the car and the PK thing. A lot of people liked that they were and felt she was victimized by PK. And so I think this season she was whatever her deal was. And she was always being late and they just got sick of like her I guess entitlement. That was my impression.

Speaker 1:
[67:17] I mean the thing is is that in real life divorces can take extremely long. And in real life you would feel bad for your friend if they flaked at the last minute or they said my ex didn't bring the kid back in time, whatever. And you'd be a friend to that person. But since it's a TV show and they've all been divorced, they're all like I had one season to be sad. Buckle up, Betty. And that's what it is. And she's just like well I'm still fucking going through it. And I don't really like that you guys aren't 100% on my side. I don't like that you're talking to him. I don't like that you're somehow questioning my spending when I shouldn't be spending this much because I need to prove that I live in a lifestyle that will get me 60,000 a month because I need 60,000 a month. So just don't mention how much I'm spending or not. This is how much I've always spent and I'm not gonna stop just because I'm getting divorced because this is the lifestyle I've become accustomed to. So she's like playing the divorce game and then, but you know, I mean, the way she is, it's just like, it's weird the way, like her accent is not as English anymore because she's not around PK. But it's a lot of, but she's always just like thirst, like she needs a lozenge or something. She's always like. Yeah, she's always just like, well, I find it interesting, Erica, that you would come at me and be such a bitch, you know? And then Erica's like, I don't need to be a bitch. Everyone thinks the way I'm thinking. And then Kyle's like.

Speaker 3:
[68:52] And I like Kyle and I like love Erica, but I love Rachel Zoe and I love Boz. So that's my trifecta right there. So I'm just like, I watch those three shop all day.

Speaker 1:
[69:02] I definitely think Erica Boz and Rachel are a fun combo.

Speaker 2:
[69:10] Oh, they are.

Speaker 1:
[69:11] They are a fun combo where they're like, yeah, with like kind of the way they talk and stuff and like they feel more real.

Speaker 3:
[69:17] Yeah. And they'll all be on the same couch, Dorit, Boz and Rachel.

Speaker 2:
[69:23] Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:
[69:24] Erica, Kyle and Sutton will be on the other couch.

Speaker 2:
[69:26] And then Rachel, Boz and Dorit. Yes.

Speaker 3:
[69:30] I think.

Speaker 2:
[69:30] And then they are so entertaining.

Speaker 1:
[69:32] Well, we'll watch that.

Speaker 2:
[69:33] I love Rachel Zoe.

Speaker 3:
[69:34] What do you think Sutton? Oh, don't forget Jennifer Tilly. That was another thing that made us jump.

Speaker 1:
[69:39] Jennifer Tilly and Kathy just need to stay because we just need light and fun.

Speaker 3:
[69:43] We have to.

Speaker 1:
[69:43] And they are there like, we just want to be friends of. Like, don't give us the fucking time. And I don't need the extra money. I'm here. And, you know, I think that's one thing going into Ladies of London before we close. I think that's another thing. I don't feel like any only like two of these girls like really need the gig. Like I feel like they're there like having fun. And in the Ladies of London, you know, it is a fun thing to watch of like this English humor and the beauty of it all. And then like so much of it is just and it changes the dynamic too to have the guy.

Speaker 2:
[70:19] At first, no, I will say this when they first because Ladies of London started the very first words spoken that you hear in Ladies of London is a man's voice. And the second I heard that, I was like, click. What the?

Speaker 3:
[70:33] We have one thing.

Speaker 2:
[70:34] Yeah, it's called Ladies of London. It's not called the one gay male friend of Ladies of London. And it was so mad. But then going back and then watching him have to say, I'm a huge fan of him, Mark and all of them. And I'm it's it's it's English porn. It's the countryside. It's the royalty of it. It's that home that the the the Duchess or whatever she is.

Speaker 3:
[70:59] Langley or Langley Hall.

Speaker 2:
[71:01] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[71:02] The beautiful girl that looks like Tandy Newton.

Speaker 2:
[71:04] Yeah, yes. And just like her whole thing and the Safari and all of the things she's doing. And then Kimmy and I always forget this lady's name with the bird.

Speaker 3:
[71:14] Which is good to kind of like they're not fish out of water, but they're a little.

Speaker 1:
[71:18] But it's kind of fun with the with the American one, because it's like, is she being picked on or does she not get that kind of humor? There's two American ones. Like, yeah, I'm just pissing on you. I'm taking the piss out of everything myself. Who cares? Oh, look at your outfit. It's like, and yeah, I've got a man that's like of that level, and he is a professional reality star. He was on the Chelsea show or whatever that was called, reality show that you can actually watch on Hey You Now. So he was on that and he had some great lines in that too, because somebody put a little compilation tape together. So real. I mean, it's fun. And again, it's a lot to take in because it's all new people. So it's like, you really have to pay attention and you're kind of like, okay, it's more fun. It's not big drama like Rhode Island where families are getting blown apart. It's more just like, you want low stakes.

Speaker 3:
[72:13] It's low stakes.

Speaker 1:
[72:14] One is very high stakes of two new shows. One has the highest stakes of just like blowing up people's lives and who's fucking who and everyone's cheating and it's crazy. And then the London is just like the two stars of ABFAB meet a gay bestie and like.

Speaker 3:
[72:33] But also I will say in the technical terms with Bravo. One, the high stakes, which is Rhode Island, they all look like everyone else on Bravo. They all have the lips. They all have the thing to the point where What's Her Butt and Dolores look like twins. They went to the same doctor. They admit that and they look beautiful. But these women, it's in London. They don't have that Bravo face. Also, because we also watched Real Housewives of London, which was only on, it's not on Peacock. It was only on Bravo. And then we like ripped it, I mean, allegedly. And it was good.

Speaker 2:
[73:08] It was really good.

Speaker 3:
[73:09] It had some old cast members from the old days.

Speaker 2:
[73:10] It was really good, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[73:12] It's a different production company. It's a British production company. I'm having like a super like annoyance when I hear like the music when they walk in anywhere on any show here with Bravo, because they do AI and it's always like, I'm bling in my car and go into the door. And I'm like, oh, just don't.

Speaker 1:
[73:30] Do they do that on London or they don't?

Speaker 3:
[73:32] They don't. Theirs is only beats like what used to be like Bravo, like, I don't want to hear some fake song.

Speaker 1:
[73:39] That's always on the Netflix, like Selling Sun. It's like bling, bling, bling, going for it. Driving up the hills. So it's like shopping for purses.

Speaker 3:
[73:50] So annoying.

Speaker 2:
[73:51] Once again.

Speaker 1:
[73:52] And then it's like hot heels, walking back. Gotta do a sing.

Speaker 3:
[73:57] And it bugs. It seriously, honestly takes me out of it. I'm like, lose the stupid AI, like fake Kesha song.

Speaker 1:
[74:04] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[74:04] So and then with what has been seriously bothering me about the casting in the last few years. And it started with the downfall of Atlanta. They're not. And the only people saving it, I feel like. And I could be wrong there because I haven't watched OC in a minute because it hasn't been on. And Jersey hasn't been on. But literally Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Chilly are the only people making anyone laugh. This show is funny.

Speaker 2:
[74:27] Funny.

Speaker 3:
[74:28] So at least we have that. So it's like Bravo needs to seriously like have a come to Jesus and get all of them together and get their casting together because you've got to make people laugh. Oboe's makes me laugh too.

Speaker 2:
[74:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:40] And I have to say in the Rhode Island one. Yeah. Then we going back to Rhode Island, we do another girl too, who's like living with her guy, but she doesn't have a pot to piss in of her own. And she's like doesn't have any money in the bank. And she's not her name's not on the title. So there's like that juicy story. But then also there are some funny times like that one girl it's about the other guy that the podiatrist she's like, he also was married to my Spanish teacher and was cheating on the Spanish teacher with Ruella. And it was really sad because I liked my Spanish teacher. And then I ran over a lady in the street.

Speaker 2:
[75:13] I'm like what?

Speaker 1:
[75:14] Like she's like I hit a lady with my car, so I'm not a great driver. And you're like, did she die? Like what? There's so much that they are funny. Well, listen, we gotta wrap this up people. But someone put this together. I don't know who put this together, but they basically said-

Speaker 2:
[75:32] Oh, they're like Will and Grace?

Speaker 1:
[75:33] Yeah, the two best friends from Will and Grace.

Speaker 2:
[75:36] Ladies of London is worth the watch. And like Kimmy and I can't, what's the woman with the bird? I always forget her name.

Speaker 1:
[75:43] Margaret.

Speaker 2:
[75:44] Margaret or Marcy.

Speaker 1:
[75:45] Margaret or Maggie.

Speaker 3:
[75:46] There's a Margaret and a Marcy.

Speaker 2:
[75:48] Marcy, I thought.

Speaker 3:
[75:48] Margo, Maggie.

Speaker 1:
[75:50] No, Margo is the American.

Speaker 3:
[75:51] So I thought her name might be.

Speaker 1:
[75:53] I know. I think Maggie is the one with the bird.

Speaker 3:
[75:55] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[75:55] Kimmy is the one with the red lips.

Speaker 3:
[75:57] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[75:58] And, you know, they're like two, you know, drunks. I love it.

Speaker 3:
[76:03] The one with the bird is my jam.

Speaker 2:
[76:05] I love her. She is amazing. And just like it is like ab-bab.

Speaker 1:
[76:08] How can reality TV not find these people earlier?

Speaker 2:
[76:10] They're awesome.

Speaker 1:
[76:11] Except for Mark, who is a professional.

Speaker 2:
[76:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[76:13] You guys, we have to wrap this up.

Speaker 3:
[76:14] Heather, we're supposed to be done. Oh my God. I know.

Speaker 1:
[76:16] I know. Because you have a thing to do. Everybody follow Brandi and Julie on social media. Their Patreon is hilarious. They have the Dumb Gay Politics, which is the free podcast. We are all going to be together live and we are going to do such fun stuff with Chris Frangiola. That is Netflix is a joke. So I'm so excited for those that are going to that. I'm going to tell you some juicy shit on Patreon on Friday. That's how they're going to tell it. What else? Anything else?

Speaker 2:
[76:47] Not launching or news flash. Nightmare on Strip Street is coming to Phoenix at the end of July through August. We just booked that.

Speaker 1:
[76:56] Oh, how do you know that?

Speaker 2:
[76:57] That'll be fun. Yeah. So for anyone around Phoenix and also Los Angeles peeps, October, I know it's a long way away, but Nightmare on Strip Street will be in Los Angeles in the month of October. Jennifer Tilly, I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1:
[77:12] And Juicy Scoopers like to plan. So many people are flying out for the May show. So for some reason, you can go to the May show or you want to come back to LA, October is a great time to be here and you'll be able to see the Brandi and Julie show.

Speaker 2:
[77:25] And listen, I think in LA, Heather went and I think you need to come again.

Speaker 1:
[77:30] We'll get you back on the chair. I'm definitely coming in. It's so fun.

Speaker 2:
[77:33] Bring Peter. We're going to put Brandon on the chair.

Speaker 3:
[77:36] We got to go. But if you don't like politics, join our Patreon, please.

Speaker 2:
[77:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[77:41] Love you. Bye.