title 🛳️ Below Deck Down Under Recap + Dish: LVP Bob Loblaw's, West No Overlap, Denise Richards, Lisa Hochstein's Jail Stint and Andy's Scrapbook

description Amy Phillips and Emily Dorezas kick off with show updates and Bravo recaps coming up, then share “Dish”. Lisa Vanderpump launches Vanderpump Gardens flower bouquets exclusively at Canadian Loblaw stores; Summer House fallout as Ciara speaks out about feeling blindsided by Amanda, while West addresses backlash on his podcast, says there was “no overlap,” notes Amanda was doxed, and promises a reunion apology; Denise Richards mourns the unexpected death of longtime friend Patrick Muldoon and also gets a ruling that her TV wages can’t be garnished for Aaron’s six-figure debt while he still receives temporary spousal support; VPR alum Ally Lewber joins Netflix’s Perfect Match season 4; Bravo announces RHOP season 11 cast with Robyn as a friend; Mormon Wives season 5 resumes filming with Taylor Frankie Paul expected to return; and RHOM’s Lisa Hochstein surrenders to police and is bailed out with cast support, plus Andy Cohen announces a Bravo scrapbook book. They then recap Below Deck, debating Ben letting Ellie walk into a breakup moment with a cake, criticizing Joelle’s mixed messages and alleged off-camera texting, reacting to Mikey stirring drama, and covering crew drinking fights, Daisy’s frustration managing Mike and Alicia, and a surprise hookup involving Jenna and Eddie despite Ben flirtation.

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pubDate Thu, 23 Apr 2026 07:04:03 GMT

author Amy Phillips

duration 3662000

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Speaker 1:
[00:19] Hey, everybody. Welcome back into Drama Darling. Today, we're doing a little bit of Dish and Below Deck. Later on this week, it's going to be some Summer House, some Valley, some Beverly Hills, some maybe some, oh yeah, we're doing a Beverly Hills live stream recap over on the Patreon. That's an exclusive thing. Emily Dorezas is here. Welcome in, Emily.

Speaker 2:
[00:45] Hello.

Speaker 1:
[00:46] I like your Garfield sweatshirt. Thank you for representing Garfield and Lasagna.

Speaker 2:
[00:51] President Garfield, for those that don't have it on video, President Garfield. JK.

Speaker 1:
[00:57] My apologies.

Speaker 2:
[00:57] The streets of Lasagnolas.

Speaker 1:
[00:59] Props. Props.

Speaker 3:
[01:00] I don't know if you guys are familiar with Santa Clarita.

Speaker 1:
[01:03] I'm from the mean streets of Santa Clarita. Can't wait till this week of The Valley, where they're just gonna drag it some more.

Speaker 2:
[01:13] Yeah, I'm afraid Danny is really becoming your unofficial mascot.

Speaker 1:
[01:18] I don't know if I planned on aligning with that, but whatever it takes.

Speaker 2:
[01:22] I mean, that is what people are gonna think Santa Clarita is, walking around with bad cowboy impressions and forcing it on people, including your wife.

Speaker 1:
[01:33] That was so funny. She's like, uh-huh.

Speaker 2:
[01:40] I mean, I couldn't believe at that point in their marriage, she's just not like, stop, stop.

Speaker 1:
[01:46] I think it probably is exerts more energy to put up a fight about it. She's resigned herself, which is sad. That's, you know, that's where you know you're in real trouble when you just can't, you don't even have any fight left in you.

Speaker 2:
[01:59] Also, she's got that history of being really kind on camera and then forgetting her mic's on with him and then shutting it down.

Speaker 4:
[02:09] Remember?

Speaker 1:
[02:10] That's right. She's like, can I see you in the other room for a minute?

Speaker 4:
[02:13] Don't you dare do this to me.

Speaker 1:
[02:20] Anyway, well, yeah, we've got that coming up. We've got a lot of recaps in the mix. So many things happening. So why don't we get started with a little dish, shall we?

Speaker 4:
[02:30] Serving Dish.

Speaker 1:
[02:33] Darling, we have some flowers going over to Canada. Get them new. I'm proud to be launching Vanderpump Gardens by Lisa Vanderpump, a collection where every stem is thoughtfully arranged to create a depth balance and luxurious statement. So where are my Canadians at? Please go to your independent grocer and Zairs in Ontario to get these gorgeous flowers of Lisa Vanderpump's. You know, when I saw this, I was like, I want some of these, but you can't get them here. You can only get them in Canada.

Speaker 2:
[03:21] I'm so confused too. Why didn't pavilions jump on this?

Speaker 1:
[03:24] I know, I know.

Speaker 2:
[03:27] You could have gotten a bottle of her booze or wine and then like had flowers.

Speaker 1:
[03:31] If it's still there, is it still there?

Speaker 2:
[03:35] Pavilions? Pavilions ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 1:
[03:37] No, no, no.

Speaker 5:
[03:38] Or do you mean the booze?

Speaker 1:
[03:42] Pavilions, this just in, pavilions is closed. No, at Loblaw's stores, that is hilarious. You're now selling Vanderpump, okay, flowers. Wait, that reminds me of Arrested Development, Bob Loblaw.

Speaker 3:
[03:56] Oh, yeah, yeah. At Loblaw's stores. Wait, you guys, is this Bob Loblaw's store?

Speaker 5:
[04:04] Are you kidding me right now?

Speaker 6:
[04:06] That's the name of the store?

Speaker 3:
[04:07] I'm obsessed.

Speaker 1:
[04:10] So apparently they're like $37 in the floral section of the grocery store. I am so jealous because they look gorgeous. They look gorgeous California and they're in Canada.

Speaker 2:
[04:21] I mean, I know. Because I also, I mean, I know that we have Canadian Bravo people.

Speaker 1:
[04:28] I just, we sure do.

Speaker 2:
[04:30] I just thought like, well, I mean, I'm just surprised that it's launching there.

Speaker 1:
[04:36] Oh, I know. I was confused too. I was almost like, well, why is this on my thread? No, why is this on my algorithm? I can't do anything with this. Let me pull up a picture here to show the dramas and mommas over on Patreon. Look at that. That is gorgeous. That is gorgeous, Lisa. Tell us what you're looking at.

Speaker 3:
[04:57] Well, I hope so.

Speaker 2:
[04:58] Purple roses, hot pink roses, green.

Speaker 1:
[05:03] Hydrangea, and a pink daisy.

Speaker 2:
[05:08] The hydrangea, you're getting like Lisa Vanderpump's blouses accented, like those colors accented with the hydrangea.

Speaker 3:
[05:18] Oh my God, you look gorgeous.

Speaker 1:
[05:20] You would think there'd be more like white and pink, because a lot of reflect, but there's more green and I like the purple accent and stuff like that, which is nice. So, wait, this picture of her when she's like, um, darlings, the wait is over, lob, lobs and lob, lob, rock lobsters. She's wearing a gorgeous, look at this lavender lady.

Speaker 2:
[05:44] That's what I'm saying. That's a Lisa Blouse shade.

Speaker 1:
[05:48] Isn't it gorgeous?

Speaker 2:
[05:49] One of her tailored made with, I like the light pink tea kettles in the background.

Speaker 1:
[05:55] Yes. They all blends together. I mean, what's not to love? Okay. So I'd say, are you just like, are you over there? Because it's a cheaper way to get your flowers into stores. This is very, are you in the beta phase? And you're just, I mean, it's not beta. I mean, it's in a store in Canada. So like beta in terms of bringing it to the US. Like, where are we at, Lisa? Let's go. Come on.

Speaker 2:
[06:20] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:21] Let's go.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] I have a lot of questions.

Speaker 1:
[06:23] Yes. We just asked them. So now we wait. And what is it going to take? I don't live close to Canada anymore. You know, I am from Detroit. Well, the Detroit area, y'alls. Yeah. And so had I been still living there, I could head on over to Windsor, picks him up, come on back. If they got a Bob Loblaw is over there.

Speaker 2:
[06:46] Canadian darlings, what is happening? Yes.

Speaker 1:
[06:50] Get over to your local grocer's freezer. No, I'm kidding. They're not in the freezer. I just love saying that. Brett and I always say that. We're like, I'm going to the grocer's freezer to pick up some stuff and get the flowers, you know, and just send them over. It'll take a few days.

Speaker 2:
[07:09] Or take a picture. Or a picture of the flowers.

Speaker 1:
[07:12] Or a picture. Or that, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[07:18] Hallelujah, hallelujah.

Speaker 2:
[07:19] I would think that the overhead on that is going to be, I mean, cheaper. Cheaper, you're going through fresh flowers.

Speaker 1:
[07:26] Well, you're looking at, you know, a US dollar and Canadian. You're looking at, you know, money on the dollar. Dollar on the money.

Speaker 4:
[07:33] Money on the holla, on the holla, holla, holla.

Speaker 2:
[07:36] But aren't things way more expensive in Canada?

Speaker 1:
[07:38] No, no, no, you get more for your money in Canada.

Speaker 2:
[07:40] More for your money, okay.

Speaker 1:
[07:41] Yes, you do. I know this because I lived in the Detroit area.

Speaker 2:
[07:47] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[07:49] Just take that bridge right over, take that tunnel right over guys, get what you need and you come on back. In fact, you go over there when you're only like 16 years old, you get your fake ID, you head on over and you go to the bars because you only had to be like 18, something like that, maybe 19. Yeah, probably 19 to get into the bars in Canada. Thanks for your support of underage drinking.

Speaker 2:
[08:12] Well, I'm here for it. I had a fake ID and we just went over to Delaware.

Speaker 5:
[08:17] True.

Speaker 1:
[08:18] You went over to Delaware?

Speaker 2:
[08:19] Yeah, I'm telling all your Detroit friends, just go to Delaware.

Speaker 3:
[08:22] You can also do that at the time. Take a road trip.

Speaker 5:
[08:28] That's just called Michigan. True.

Speaker 1:
[08:33] Britney. Jesus. Ciara Miller has spoken out in an Us Weekly article. She's broken her silence. One of the quotes says, I just never would think that it would come from someone like Amanda, who has been what has felt like in my circle and in my corner for so long. I think that's the craziest part. By the way, we are doing Summer House tomorrow. I forgot about that. You guys, wow. So sad. I mean, the hits just keep coming. Especially because-

Speaker 2:
[09:11] When's the reunion?

Speaker 1:
[09:12] Well, we don't know quite yet because they are still in full swing. There was an episode last night. Just more of Amanda saying to Ciara, I see you. I love you. I support you. I see you. It's so rough.

Speaker 2:
[09:29] I saw the embrace. I saw a clip of the embrace from last night of her and West. I was like, oh.

Speaker 1:
[09:35] West? She was hugging Ciara, comforting her.

Speaker 2:
[09:40] Yeah. Or maybe it wasn't from that episode, but I saw something on camera where they're hugging a little too long. It was giving Raquel and Tom lives.

Speaker 1:
[09:52] Oof. You're so having an affair. By the way, they were also spotted at a Yankees game.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] I didn't see that.

Speaker 1:
[09:59] Way yesterday's news. It's not necessarily a dish, but we're just talking about it. And everyone was reading her lips and they were like, she said, act like you like me. And that's when he leaned over and gave her a kiss. It's crazy. It's crazy, you guys. All right. So West has also broken his silence on his own podcast and basically saying, hey, I'm so quirky and funny, but like, hey, guys, Amanda's getting a lot of heat for this. She's getting a lot of heat. Why the heat should be on me? I can handle it. I got an orange knit cap on. I can handle this. Throw the hate my way. She's just a girl, man. And then also he said that she got doxed. He doesn't know how her number got out. That's terrifying. And yeah, and that like someone sent her a message calling her a home-wrecking whore. And he's like, I mean, we were single, so it's not like she's wrecking anyone's home. So like, look at me in my knit cap. No, he didn't say those words exactly. I'm, I'm taking comedic liberties here. He also said, and I quote, that there was no overlap, no overlap in terms of like when Amanda was still with Kyle. And when he was, well, he was never with Ciara, but he means like no overlap while Amanda was still currently in her active marriage with Kyle, like before they officially celebrated, separated. And he said, everyone is single. He says he'll apologize at the reunion and he hopes that he looks people in the eye and actually means it because this whole situation is messy and the people who got hurt in the process did not deserve any of it. Thank you, Cici loves you for bullet pointing this podcast clip because I did watch it, didn't take notes. But then I saw Cici's and I was like, thank you, Cici.

Speaker 5:
[12:10] I do love you.

Speaker 1:
[12:12] Follow Cici. So anyway, yeah, wild. I mean, he goes on his own podcast and his podcast partner's like, yeah, so like, just like real quick, like, like with like the whole like, I don't know, I mean, she did not know how to handle this. It was so uncomfortable. And she couldn't have said the word like more, you know, she said, so like, just real quick, like, you know, I don't know, just like say if I like threw like a question at you, if you were to like, I don't know, like say, talk about like what's happening with you. And I don't know, like that girl. So and they're just trying to keep it like so chill, like so chill, you know, and he's like, yeah, like, you know, that's a great, like, it's crazy you brought that up. Cause like, I was just thinking about that. Like, it's like, before I put my hoodie on and like my wacky shirt, I just thought like, ah, people are like probably wondering, you know, it is wild, Emily.

Speaker 2:
[13:13] It is wild.

Speaker 1:
[13:15] Anyway, moving on. Patrick Muldoon has passed.

Speaker 4:
[13:20] I know.

Speaker 1:
[13:21] How sad, unexpectedly.

Speaker 2:
[13:24] He was just like out the other night, like doing like promo at a bar, like, like, like, like, like, now I'm doing it.

Speaker 1:
[13:32] Oh, Emily, pull it together, my friend.

Speaker 4:
[13:34] I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:
[13:37] I feel so bad for that whole situation.

Speaker 1:
[13:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:41] I mean, obviously, Denise is a friend of mine and helped me even remember who he was in the last couple of years. Like he just wasn't on my radar. So she brought him back on my radar and then I feel so sad for her.

Speaker 1:
[13:55] Yeah. And then what did she call him? Sweet, sweet baby, sweet, sweet something? I have no idea. That's okay. She had that. Get it.

Speaker 7:
[14:05] Sorry. It was Patrick.

Speaker 1:
[14:08] You're real upset. You're real torn up. Okay. Let me write that time. 15, 20, Emily knocks into microphone, cut out.

Speaker 5:
[14:20] See guys, this is why it takes me so long to edit.

Speaker 2:
[14:23] Because a lot of sentence is mainly because you write down what you want to edit. Three pages and then her hand hit the side of the microphone.

Speaker 1:
[14:35] Can I just like tell you one of the funniest things that Maddie did real quick? She imitated my dad, the way that he tries to look things up when he wants to try to find a video online, when he says, Oh my God, you got to see this hilarious video. Let me try to find it. So then he talks into Google and Maddie does this impression where she goes, Google, find the video clip of the polar bear with the orange cone in front of it and the man in the back holding an umbrella while tripping over a fishing stick. And someone also says, Oh no, look out. But, and also has a sunset in the background.

Speaker 5:
[15:29] And the polar bear has a hat on his head, which falls off and the fishing pole sticks to it.

Speaker 1:
[15:38] And I mean, it is the funniest thing.

Speaker 3:
[15:40] Mattie did that whole thing all on her and I was like, you're a genius.

Speaker 1:
[15:44] It just keeps going. And then he's like, ah, can't find it. How did you not find it? Anyway, back to the tragic news of, that's how we did that. I mean, this is like the nightly news where they say something horrific. And they're like, in other news, a peacock was in the middle of the road.

Speaker 2:
[16:08] With a sunset and a fishing pole.

Speaker 1:
[16:12] So anyway, Denise paid tribute to her close friend and confidant. And she had a beautiful Instagram post. And she's deeply heartbroken. They've known each other since they were like 19 starship troopers.

Speaker 2:
[16:31] And I guess their families were friends too, like her parents and his parents.

Speaker 1:
[16:35] Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[16:37] Yeah, because there was something about navigating Hollywood as parents of two starlets.

Speaker 1:
[16:46] Two star troopers. Yeah. Well, in good news, on the other side for Denise, a judge has ruled that TV wages cannot be garnished for Aaron Fipers.

Speaker 2:
[17:03] I saw that headline. Is it current? Because they're not they're not separate. So anything she does post there. So like when she was on Beverly Hills this season, that's after he filed.

Speaker 1:
[17:16] To answer your question, the article says that the collections company asked for the court for permission to seize Denise's wages and other assets, even though she and Aaron had separated in July 2025. She also accused him of multiple instances of domestic violence and obtained a restraining order. In court this week, and this took place towards the beginning of April, a judge ruled against the collections company. The judge said that Denise shouldn't be held liable for this six-figure debt. Her paychecks are safe, and Aaron's on the hook for this one. But he's not done burning a hole in Denise's wallet. Earlier this year, Aaron won a temporary spousal support agreement. Giving him $5,000 a month, she also had to fork over $30,000 to cover his attorney fees. Meanwhile, Aaron just got hit with another six-figure judgment over a failed cancer treatment at his wellness center. That one totals $160,000, and in previous court docs, he listed a total debt of $850,000.

Speaker 2:
[18:21] I have more questions about Aaron. Mainly, I'm just like, dude, what that fucking wellness center? I mean, I'm just like, knock it off, dude.

Speaker 1:
[18:31] Yeah. He's like, Denise, my wellness center didn't go well, so you need to pay for that.

Speaker 2:
[18:38] Maybe your wellness center should go to your wellness center or file bankruptcy. Why is Denise having to deal with this?

Speaker 1:
[18:47] Right. Because he's a POS. Yeah. In other news, Vanderpump Rules alum, Ally Lewber, James's ex-girlfriend, will join Netflix's Perfect Match Season 4. Look at that. Decider is reporting. Decider is reporting, I repeat, decider.com.

Speaker 2:
[19:15] Thank you. I had.gov and I was like, why can't I find the article?

Speaker 1:
[19:19] I know you do that sometimes. You do.

Speaker 2:
[19:23] decider.net, Decider.biz. I don't know why you do it.

Speaker 6:
[19:28] I don't know why you do it.

Speaker 3:
[19:29] I don't know why she does it.

Speaker 1:
[19:30] I really don't.

Speaker 2:
[19:31] But now I'm going to get the info.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] I don't know why you do it.

Speaker 2:
[19:35] I don't know why you do it.

Speaker 4:
[19:36] You're a liar and a malicious, despicable person.

Speaker 6:
[19:40] I don't know. I don't know why she doesn't know.

Speaker 1:
[19:45] We did discuss the upcoming season of Potomac, Season 11, about, you know, Robyn being a friend of. Yes. Because that was on the boards in terms of like, you know, the circulating rumors. But I just wanted to officially say that Bravo TV has announced that filming is in full bloom. Presenting the ladies returning for Real Housewives of Potomac Season 11, we have Karen, Joelle, Ashley, Wendy, Stacey, Tia and Robyn as a friend.

Speaker 2:
[20:16] RIP Angel.

Speaker 1:
[20:18] Yeah. Are you disappointed? Would you have liked to have seen her?

Speaker 2:
[20:21] I would have liked to have seen one season with Angel being in the cast and having Karen deal with it and seeing how that would have gone.

Speaker 1:
[20:32] Oh, and like actually living in Potomac in a house that she bought.

Speaker 2:
[20:38] Or is renting.

Speaker 5:
[20:39] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[20:42] I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.

Speaker 2:
[20:43] They all do it. I just think that it would be interesting to see that. But maybe not as interesting. Yeah, that vibe. Now we're just going to watch them drive an hour and a half out of their way for Robyn, which I'm also happy about.

Speaker 1:
[20:57] They're not going to go to Robyn's. Robyn's going to get it. She's got to come to them.

Speaker 3:
[21:01] They're not going to Robyn's.

Speaker 1:
[21:03] Friends don't host things.

Speaker 2:
[21:05] Well, yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:09] What? Are you okay?

Speaker 2:
[21:09] Maybe you're right. No, I was just thinking of like Sheree. We'll see her. She hosts things, doesn't she?

Speaker 1:
[21:19] Wait, no.

Speaker 7:
[21:20] Am I thinking the right?

Speaker 1:
[21:21] She shows up places when she's not invited.

Speaker 2:
[21:25] This is true. She's had a lot of events.

Speaker 7:
[21:29] She always shows up.

Speaker 1:
[21:30] I was just driving by and I saw the cameras.

Speaker 7:
[21:32] Always shows up.

Speaker 6:
[21:34] She's gonna show up. She's gonna show up.

Speaker 1:
[21:38] In other news, Mormon Wives are going to resume filming season five after the abrupt hiatus. And What's Your Toes isn't gonna be filming.

Speaker 2:
[21:48] Taylor.

Speaker 6:
[21:49] Taylor. Taylor, don't film, Taylor.

Speaker 2:
[21:54] Yeah. And you know who I bet is gonna be filming? Oh, fucking Marciano. Yeah, because he and Jesse are out and about together.

Speaker 1:
[22:04] They are. And that angle in which they were caught, I mean, is someone up in a tree? Like, where was that camera?

Speaker 5:
[22:12] It was like the moat.

Speaker 1:
[22:14] Was it a drone shot? Looks like someone took a picture from up on a balcony downward. Am I crazy? Is that what you know?

Speaker 2:
[22:19] No, no, no. Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird one. It's like old school paparazzi. It's like when they used to like, it's like, Bruce and Patty got caught on a balcony in Paris. Or like Princess Diana would get caught on a yacht from a million miles away. It's like old school.

Speaker 5:
[22:39] It's old school.

Speaker 1:
[22:41] Right. So ET has learned that Season 5 will resume filming after halting in mid-March amid two domestic violence investigations involving Taylor, Frankie Paul and her ex, Dakota Mortenson. Last week, it is not known yet if Taylor and Dakota will be involved with the show when cameras picked back up. Although I did see a separate post saying that Taylor was stepping back from filming. Michaela claimed that it was the cast's decision to stop filming, saying, we didn't feel comfortable filming with everything that was happening. When ET last spoke with Taylor on March 17th about where things stood with her fellow Mormon wives, she told us, on my end, everything is good with the women. To this day, I have nothing against any of them.

Speaker 2:
[23:24] Okay, so not to contradict your fine reporting.

Speaker 3:
[23:32] And I don't want to do this, Amy, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1:
[23:35] This just in.

Speaker 4:
[23:37] No, sorry, I will not be having it.

Speaker 1:
[23:39] What is it?

Speaker 2:
[23:40] This was just in at 8 p.m. last night. Taylor, Frankie, Paul will return.

Speaker 7:
[23:45] No. For the sweet lives of Mormon Wives.

Speaker 1:
[23:49] Not true. Oh, on TMZ?

Speaker 2:
[23:52] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:54] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[23:54] It will happen. Family remains priority at some point. However, her main focus remains, she will return at some point. Our sources tell us cameras will go up nearly immediately, even as early as this week. And the entire cast production crews are supportive of Taylor returning to the hit Hulu show when she's ready.

Speaker 4:
[24:20] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[24:23] I mean.

Speaker 4:
[24:25] I mean, I feel like it's like not a good idea. And I feel like it's going to be weird. And I feel like the only reason they're doing it is because I feel like they know it's ratings. And I feel like, are they just going to like insert like an episode of The Bachelor up in there? I feel like. I feel like.

Speaker 7:
[24:43] What happened?

Speaker 2:
[24:44] It's a mess. Because also, as we've said, they knew before it all aired what they were dealing with.

Speaker 4:
[24:52] They knew.

Speaker 2:
[24:53] They knew. You knew. So it's going to be interesting to. I'm just wondering legally what's up with that. Because legally, if they knew everything and then they fired her way after the fact, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[25:10] I agree. I think that she's got a lot of TikTok legs to stand on, a lot of TikTok dancers to go. She's going to get a Legal Eagles team for that movie.

Speaker 2:
[25:25] You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:
[25:26] I sure do.

Speaker 3:
[25:27] You know what I'm talking about, Legal Eagles.

Speaker 2:
[25:29] Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3:
[25:31] Who we got there?

Speaker 1:
[25:32] Robert Redford.

Speaker 2:
[25:33] Robert Redford.

Speaker 1:
[25:34] What else do we got? We've got like a Daryl Hannah thing. What do we have here?

Speaker 2:
[25:39] Oh man, this is such a detour.

Speaker 1:
[25:43] Well, we got time. We got nothing but time. I'm going.

Speaker 7:
[25:45] I'm going to Costco.

Speaker 1:
[25:47] I'll be right back while you figure that shit out.

Speaker 2:
[25:50] Oh yeah, it is Daryl Hannah.

Speaker 1:
[25:52] Shut up.

Speaker 5:
[25:52] Is it really?

Speaker 2:
[25:53] Yeah, Endeavor Winger.

Speaker 1:
[25:55] Guys, I don't know how I did it, but today I am a proud woman.

Speaker 5:
[26:00] My memory is working. My memory is back, Mother. My memory is back. I've got it.

Speaker 2:
[26:08] You got it. You can go right over to decider.gov and see Legal Eagles.

Speaker 1:
[26:14] We're going to have a messy movie night here on Drama Darling. We're going to fire up Legal Eagles and see what we got in store. This is going to be a hot new film to cover.

Speaker 2:
[26:23] We're going to the Regal Beagle and we're going to watch Legal Eagles, timely.

Speaker 1:
[26:28] It is. It really is. All the Millennials listening are all like, um, and subscribe. I don't know what these references are, but I am not here for it. So I'm all like, this is not where I'm at in life. That's what we're thinking. Well, look at it.

Speaker 2:
[26:50] We never left.

Speaker 1:
[26:51] Look at it straight in the face, Millennials. I am your future.

Speaker 2:
[26:56] I'm going to watch Legal Eagles tonight, I think.

Speaker 1:
[26:58] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:00] Unless it's illegal. With a beagle. I don't know.

Speaker 7:
[27:04] I'm just crazy.

Speaker 2:
[27:05] I rhyme.

Speaker 1:
[27:08] All right. In another piece of news, that could never be a broadcaster. And other stuff coming up. The Real Housewives of Miami star Lisa Hochstein. She turned herself in to the police after her ex-boyfriend Jodi Glidden's arrest.

Speaker 2:
[27:29] It's okay. We don't need to know the last name of that guy.

Speaker 1:
[27:31] I don't care. And then, so she turned herself in, as we all know. And then she turned herself out because she got bailed out. And guess who showed up?

Speaker 2:
[27:41] The cast, right?

Speaker 1:
[27:43] Frickin cast. They all marched over there and they got their girl.

Speaker 2:
[27:49] Was it the entire cast?

Speaker 1:
[27:50] No, it was most, it was some. It was Alexia. It was, now they're off season. So when they're off season, it goes to cold storage. So who we got here?

Speaker 2:
[28:03] I know it was at least Alexia. And I think girl from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Speaker 1:
[28:11] No, Adriana.

Speaker 2:
[28:14] Larsa?

Speaker 1:
[28:15] Maybe.

Speaker 2:
[28:16] I mean, Larsa was her closest friend forever, but I don't know where that stands now.

Speaker 1:
[28:23] She's probably like, I'm in my closet right now and I can't come out.

Speaker 2:
[28:29] She's probably like, I guess call Marcus since you want to follow Marcus and Marcus is your best friend. And I hope Marcus can bail you out.

Speaker 1:
[28:43] Totally, totally. I don't think I'll be there. I can't go because I have a jewelry charity event for someone that I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[28:54] You want to be bailed out? How do you know?

Speaker 1:
[28:56] How do you know?

Speaker 2:
[28:57] How do you know?

Speaker 1:
[29:00] Do you know? I don't think you've told me I'm sorry for being Marcus' friend enough.

Speaker 2:
[29:08] How do you know?

Speaker 1:
[29:09] How do you know? I'm in my really large house in Miami alone with all my family somewhere else.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] I'm sorry, Lisa, there's no space for you.

Speaker 1:
[29:19] How do you know?

Speaker 2:
[29:20] How do you know?

Speaker 1:
[29:27] I'm on What's-Your-Name's Jet right now.

Speaker 6:
[29:32] Gold storage.

Speaker 2:
[29:34] Oh, I wonder if Haitian Mortician was also at the bailout ceremony.

Speaker 1:
[29:39] Yeah, bailout ceremony, probably with a coffee maker and everything.

Speaker 3:
[29:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:47] All right, well, I think that's it in news. I don't know if I've got anything else. Oh, one more thing. Andy has a new book coming out. Pre-order it now. It's Andy's Bravo Scrapbook. It's like all his pictures that he's been taking over the years. This looks like an amazing coffee table book. Pre-order. I'm very excited about this. This is what the cover looks like. That shot is from the baby shower.

Speaker 2:
[30:16] Oh, yeah. You're there.

Speaker 1:
[30:18] That I was at.

Speaker 2:
[30:19] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[30:20] I'm not in this photo. But you know what? I saw this and I thought, you know who's not in that photo, which is shocking to me? Lisa Rinna.

Speaker 5:
[30:30] Because she was the one that was like, get on the table and dance for Daddy Andy, you fuckers.

Speaker 1:
[30:37] Like she made that party epic. So I was like, interesting.

Speaker 2:
[30:42] Well, maybe it's also the kind of thing where it just wasn't the right shot. Like maybe she was pulling focus. Who is in it?

Speaker 1:
[30:51] I see Cynthia, I see Kyle, I see Phaedra. I think I see Erica and I don't know who the blurred faces are here.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] Lisa.

Speaker 1:
[31:02] Me and Lisa. No, I think you're right.

Speaker 3:
[31:06] She probably would have pulled focus.

Speaker 1:
[31:08] That's a really good point. Like her up on it. Although look at Kyle. Kyle's up on a table there.

Speaker 2:
[31:13] I'm just saying like, but Lisa would probably be open mouth, hands up like ass in the air.

Speaker 1:
[31:20] Like you just don't get your.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] Yes. Just like I just, but it would have, I don't know. It could have used a little something on the opposite side of the picture. In my mind, from what you're showing me, I needed a little bit more. I could have used Lisa.

Speaker 1:
[31:36] You could have used Lisa. I could have used Lisa. If I were Lisa Rinna and I saw this, I'd be like, oh, I see how it is. But they've had a little bit of beef because she got sued. He used one of her texts in his book. She talked about him in her book, which I am reading right now because we're gonna be doing the Bravo Book Club here coming up very soon, probably next week. Emily, get your eyes on the book. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[32:03] So get busy.

Speaker 2:
[32:04] I knew we were at some point doing that.

Speaker 1:
[32:06] We're doing it. So, okay, let's go.

Speaker 2:
[32:09] And your point that that picture probably got approved months ago before they patch things up.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 7:
[40:03] Welcome in.

Speaker 6:
[40:04] Thank you. Guys, Daisy is passed. There's only fucking two of us this morning. Everyone's asleep and everyone's off the radio because everyone's fucking dark in the boat. It's just me. I can't play in 100 places at a time.

Speaker 2:
[40:18] Oh, so there's two of you.

Speaker 3:
[40:20] Ben, he's such an asshole.

Speaker 1:
[40:23] He's such an asshole.

Speaker 5:
[40:24] Oh, I was like, oh, I'm okay.

Speaker 2:
[40:26] I thought you said that was one.

Speaker 7:
[40:29] He's playing with utensils like they're swords.

Speaker 1:
[40:32] Yeah, he's juggling. He's like, I just want this frittata gone, baby.

Speaker 6:
[40:38] Yeah. She's like, fucking, I'll take your frittata and shove it up your ass.

Speaker 3:
[40:42] Maybe I could have your pot cleaner.

Speaker 2:
[40:45] Help me serve. Calling Ellie his pot cleaner.

Speaker 3:
[40:50] Did you catch that?

Speaker 1:
[40:51] I did not. No, but did you see the honey pot, the money honey pot that he has to put money? That was amazing. That's amazing. I love it. He had such a great attitude about it. Really cute. Really cute.

Speaker 2:
[41:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:04] I thought Ben had a great episode.

Speaker 2:
[41:08] Really?

Speaker 1:
[41:09] Yeah, I did. You didn't?

Speaker 2:
[41:11] Girl, I think we have some problems with that.

Speaker 1:
[41:15] Oh, we have some problems?

Speaker 2:
[41:17] I would like to also know what the darlings think about this. I really was so mad at Ben who has had Ellie's back towards the end of the episode when he could see that train coming, when she was finally about to give Joelle the cake. Then Ben knew and he should have told Ellie, he should have just stepped in at that last second and been like, hey, he's about to break this all off. Clearly, don't humiliate yourself by giving him this cake right before it happens.

Speaker 1:
[41:52] So we're sure that he knew for sure that Joelle.

Speaker 2:
[41:57] Joelle is like telling Ben, I've got to finally have this talk. Ben's like, she made you that cake. You're right. Rather than telling Ellie, he did the worst thing. He stood back there with Jenna.

Speaker 1:
[42:10] He let her walk into the lion's den. You're right.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] He watched it in the wings. I hated that for her.

Speaker 5:
[42:17] Damn, and I'm pissed now.

Speaker 2:
[42:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[42:19] Oh, no. I had it all wrong. I had it all wrong.

Speaker 1:
[42:26] He did it for the show. He let her walk right in there.

Speaker 2:
[42:29] I know, but I didn't like it because it just was like Ellie could have chosen right then what to do. She could have, it would have been on Ellie, but I think she still would have had the talk with Joelle. She just wouldn't have given him the cake, and it still would have been drama, and it still would have been Joelle giving full mixed messages and craziness, but she would have still had the pride of not giving him the cake.

Speaker 1:
[42:56] That was salt in the wound. After seeing what we saw the whole time when they went out, and now they're on that crew cast day trip, and Ellie confronts Joelle after Mikey is stirring the pot. Can we get him over on a Housewives show because I think he's needed.

Speaker 5:
[43:16] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[43:17] He's really good. Is he not the new Tamara?

Speaker 5:
[43:20] He's like Tamara. He's fucking Tamara. Like Mikey is Tamara with an accent.

Speaker 2:
[43:26] And maybe it is Tamara and that's all her hair.

Speaker 7:
[43:30] He's just piling it up and calling it over.

Speaker 3:
[43:32] She died it. She got a bunch of tats.

Speaker 1:
[43:35] When they're sitting there and he's like, what did Joelle say to you? And Ellie is like, oh, that we like each other and they get to know each other. And he's like, oh, so Joelle says he likes you as well. Oh, that's nice. Oh, and then he's like, Joelle said to me he wasn't into Ellie, and that he said he cut things off with Ellie, and that shitting grin that he had on his face was just mean, just cruel.

Speaker 2:
[44:02] And Eddie does a fly by, he comes through too like, oh yeah, Joelle doesn't like you.

Speaker 1:
[44:08] Oh, Eddie, he was wasted.

Speaker 2:
[44:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:12] And not cool, not, not cool. And then when she's like, Joelle, you have something to say? So then when she talks to him, he again is like, that's not what I said. Look, I understand what he's saying to try and quote, let someone down easy. He learned his lesson. It's not, you're not letting anyone down easy. Don't flatter yourself. All you have to say is, I'm interested in Daisy, period.

Speaker 2:
[44:43] Or I'm not interested in this. Ally has had a hard life. She can handle it.

Speaker 1:
[44:49] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[44:50] She's seen some shit.

Speaker 1:
[44:52] Having that conversation would have been nothing. He unintentionally, but intentionally played games with her by trying to be a nice guy as if he's that important. I just, when he was crying in that confessional, I thought, good, good, you cry, go, cry.

Speaker 2:
[45:11] It reminded me so much of Joe last season crying because he once again was in the love triangle and he didn't want to hurt what's her head.

Speaker 1:
[45:18] Yeah, Joe.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] Grieving the loss of her boyfriend. And really it's like both of you two dudes don't want to look like a jackass on television because you want to make sure that your game is strong the next time you want to fuck with somebody. By the way, on the after show, Ellie's like, Joelle was texting me the whole time making plans to go on these trips afterwards and wanting to hook up secretly.

Speaker 5:
[45:48] No, no, are you serious?

Speaker 2:
[45:50] Yeah. And then I was like, that's why that mother, I mean, I thought, oh, he got the master, the suite for his birthday, the guest suite. And I was like, I bet he texted Ellie to come in there. And she was like, no, I'm not doing it. But he was running game on her the whole time that we didn't even see.

Speaker 1:
[46:08] Oh, my God. I am really floored right now. I did not expect that to be the case. Yeah, so even just seeing him that morning, before she found out he was like hugging her. No, no, no, it was after.

Speaker 5:
[46:24] Yeah, it was before this.

Speaker 1:
[46:25] He was like hugging her that morning. He's like, how are you doing? You know, he just he made it look like we're building back up again to just get to know each other for the rest of the charter.

Speaker 2:
[46:36] Yeah, no.

Speaker 5:
[46:37] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[46:39] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[46:40] Yeah. And I will say like again, like Ellie was into Joe and she was into Joelle. So I'm just saying Ellie refocus on your dudes because I feel like the more I get to see Ellie in action, the more I'm like she she must have a pattern with this kind of person. But she obviously could do way, way, way, way, way she was walking serious. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[47:08] She was fine with like she was fine with like just getting to know each other and kind of just having a, a chill, you know, get to know you maybe have a cuddle or a kiss or two here and there.

Speaker 2:
[47:20] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:23] You know, a lady has her needs to like why the fact that Joelle kept saying like, I never said I wanted a relationship. It's like we never, she never said that. Like we never, that's not at all. Like what if she wanted to just, you know, get a little cozy and be done with it. I guess that's where I just feel like a little bit, you know, it gets misogynistic. And then when she was walking away from him in that, in those heels and her thong and that like wrap, I was like, you guys have no idea what you like.

Speaker 5:
[47:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:58] And then her picture where she was like your loss, you know, that cake, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 5:
[48:05] You know, they would be so lucky.

Speaker 2:
[48:06] Oh, that was an Amy cake. You would love that meringue.

Speaker 1:
[48:10] That looks so good.

Speaker 2:
[48:12] That's your kind of dessert.

Speaker 1:
[48:13] That spiral. It does. Thank you, Emily. You know me. I feel seen. I feel seen.

Speaker 6:
[48:16] I feel so seen.

Speaker 1:
[48:19] It was funny when Ben's like, there goes my dessert, baby, no.

Speaker 2:
[48:26] Well, I thought it was funny, too, when Ellie got the word that Joelle wasn't into her and she was upset with Ben.

Speaker 1:
[48:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:34] And he's like, it saves us a guest dessert. We got one covered.

Speaker 6:
[48:38] I love that moment.

Speaker 1:
[48:41] That's why I thought that it was a good episode for Ben. I overlooked what happened earlier, but that's why I liked it because he was there and he was kind of making her laugh and cheering her up. And he's like, come on, baby. No, we don't need to make a dessert. He doesn't even deserve it. So I appreciated that.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] And in fairness to Ellie, maybe I'm the maybe like with I'm just thinking she got upset with Joe and she got upset with Joelle. But maybe it's not like she's got a bad picker. I think I said that before. I think it's more like she just wants people to be honest with her. To your point, she just wanted to hook up and maybe she thinks that that was what was happening.

Speaker 1:
[49:17] Right. And these guys don't know how to handle it.

Speaker 2:
[49:19] They're just playing these fucked up games.

Speaker 1:
[49:21] Yeah. They can't handle her. Drinks and smokes and fights on that patio. Mike and Daisy and Alicia. I'm done with Alicia. I'm sorry. After. Oh my God. It's so right. Daisy, I would be so absolutely irate if I were her between Mike and Alicia and then Jenna.

Speaker 2:
[49:43] She talks to them like they're her kids. It's hilarious.

Speaker 1:
[49:45] It is.

Speaker 3:
[49:46] You're right.

Speaker 1:
[49:48] Yeah, they're under 10 years old. Then you've got Jenna, who's the older sibling who takes on more of the responsibility. He was like, I'm the one who cleans the most.

Speaker 6:
[49:59] She's like, it's not about who cleans the most. You're all good kids. You always just got to get along.

Speaker 1:
[50:06] Then Alicia is drinking and she's saying stuff to Mike or whatever. Then Mike and Alicia bickering back and forth and Mike saying, Alicia has had too much to drink.

Speaker 6:
[50:17] I love that Daisy's like, now that's stepping over the line. I won't fucking tolerate it. I would be fucking pissed. You can't say that to anybody.

Speaker 1:
[50:28] But after having Alicia's back so hard in that moment, she didn't have to stick up for her at all. They're off the clock. They're all drinking. Who cares? The fact that Daisy's like, so how are we going to move forward with this? Alicia says, you need to deal with it. You're the fucking head of department. I was like, girl, bye.

Speaker 2:
[50:48] Bye. I was really surprised about that. To me, that felt like, you know, Ellie gets really wrapped up in positions and who's what rank. And I haven't heard Alicia do that. So I was really surprised to hear that from Alicia because sometimes that gets really confusing because it's like, well, who put you in charge? And then this is not a who's in charge situation.

Speaker 7:
[51:12] This is like, get your shit together, kiddo.

Speaker 6:
[51:15] Meanwhile, Daisy is like, all right, you've had too much to drink. This is bullshit.

Speaker 2:
[51:20] She literally said to Mike at one point, say it again. I'm giving you one more time.

Speaker 7:
[51:26] Say it again.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Like it was such a mom move.

Speaker 1:
[51:29] I know. I'm going to take your iPad away.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] Take your hairspray away.

Speaker 1:
[51:35] Yeah. And then the next day, Daisy tells Captain, you know, in the morning, she just wakes up.

Speaker 6:
[51:43] She's like, you know, they're really hard to take last night. They're really hard to take.

Speaker 7:
[51:48] Oh my God, you know, the drinking and the cigs were hitting.

Speaker 1:
[51:54] And her voice was melding with the engine room.

Speaker 3:
[51:57] I was like, the Captain will not be able to understand what she's saying.

Speaker 6:
[52:01] The engine room is like, she's like, Captain, I am looking for you. I might miss you all night.

Speaker 1:
[52:11] He's like, all right, just getting old. Yeah, just go get some coffee and maybe some more hot.

Speaker 3:
[52:18] I'll just hydrate.

Speaker 7:
[52:23] I have been getting a vibe with those two this season.

Speaker 2:
[52:27] There is an undercurrent, but then I thought that before with Aisha a little bit.

Speaker 3:
[52:33] So I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[52:34] There is. There's a down undead current happening with Captain Down Undead, you know what I mean, with all the lighting.

Speaker 2:
[52:42] I need you to just know how to play it. So we're all like.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] He's always flirting until you want a tour of the boat after hours.

Speaker 2:
[52:50] Oh yeah. Who was it that did the bits back with him last charter? And he was like, shut your fucking mouth.

Speaker 1:
[52:58] Yeah, right.

Speaker 2:
[53:00] I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[53:01] Cold storage memory.

Speaker 3:
[53:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:03] They're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 5:
[53:05] Get your M&Ms. Have some M&Ms.

Speaker 3:
[53:09] What the did you just say?

Speaker 1:
[53:11] I'll see you in my office now. Get up in the wheelhouse.

Speaker 5:
[53:17] I'll see you in the bridge.

Speaker 1:
[53:19] Yeah. He's like, I did a lot of thinking and you're just not up to par.

Speaker 3:
[53:26] So you're going to have to leave this charter.

Speaker 5:
[53:29] Sir. He's like, what did I do? I did not like the M&Ms joke.

Speaker 1:
[53:36] You crossed the line. We didn't do that here. And I'm not going to take it.

Speaker 3:
[53:41] You're going to have to leave.

Speaker 2:
[53:44] And then putting on my rubber tits.

Speaker 1:
[53:48] I got to see what this is like. That motorized paddleboard little surfboard thing. Oh, my God. I want to do that so bad.

Speaker 2:
[53:58] You can do it out here. They have them out in Malibu.

Speaker 1:
[54:02] Do they really? Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[54:05] I think you can rent them.

Speaker 6:
[54:07] Oh, man.

Speaker 1:
[54:08] That looks like a real blast, Emily.

Speaker 2:
[54:11] Standing on the seas.

Speaker 6:
[54:13] Yup.

Speaker 1:
[54:14] All right. And then wait, then Mike, the next day is like asking Ellie for a flirt. She's like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 6:
[54:30] I like that moment.

Speaker 3:
[54:31] That mailman. I did.

Speaker 1:
[54:33] I thought it was funny and cute.

Speaker 2:
[54:34] I thought it was actually like, I thought it, I was, I was initially really annoyed. And then I was like, oh, Mike, that's kind of sweet.

Speaker 1:
[54:41] I thought it was kind of charming and her reaction was charming too. And it was cute.

Speaker 2:
[54:46] But then I'm like, he's just doing it to fuck with Joelle. And then I was like, don't you dare use Ellie, you motherfucker. I don't want her to deal with it again.

Speaker 1:
[54:54] He is jealous of all the other guys on the boat, like getting, being able to have, you know, these ladies at their entertainment and he doesn't have the option. So it's his chance. He's throwing it at the wall.

Speaker 2:
[55:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[55:08] Okay. How shocked were you at the end of the night, after Ben and Jenna have been floating, after Ben and Jenna have been flirting this whole time. Oh, physics this, physics that, body language this, body language that. Eddie's not really my type. Oh, yeah, baby, let me get to know Eddie, so I know what I'm up against, why, yeah. And then he's like, come to my main cabin, baby. Lights go down and she heads on in there, shocker.

Speaker 2:
[55:36] Yeah. How surprised was I? You were? I was 0.0 shocked.

Speaker 5:
[55:41] I was totally shocked.

Speaker 1:
[55:42] I did not think that she was going to do it.

Speaker 2:
[55:46] I was just like, Eddie has not a chance. This is, he cannot handle this woman. He's asking her to pull out money to help pay for dinner. I was like, this is not the girl to do that with.

Speaker 1:
[55:59] I don't remember that part.

Speaker 2:
[56:01] Oh, he took her to-

Speaker 1:
[56:02] Oh, when they went out?

Speaker 3:
[56:03] To the date.

Speaker 2:
[56:04] He asked her on a date.

Speaker 1:
[56:06] I'm sorry. I skipped over that part.

Speaker 2:
[56:09] Oh, he asked her on the date.

Speaker 3:
[56:11] It was so fast.

Speaker 2:
[56:13] Oh, that's okay because you probably thought they were going to be like, a wine, I don't drink wine. Why do it?

Speaker 1:
[56:18] Thanks for having my back, girl. Thanks for having my back.

Speaker 2:
[56:21] That's usually what happens and it was a quick date. Anyway, at the end of the date, he didn't have the money to cover it and so she was helping him.

Speaker 1:
[56:31] Oh, honey. I am floored and I apologize to the darlings that this was not in my notes, that I wasn't able to calculate. Head on into that main cabin with Ben and do what you got to do. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[56:47] Yeah. I'm not saying like, some people would be fine with it.

Speaker 6:
[56:51] No, it's a date.

Speaker 1:
[56:52] He asked her out.

Speaker 6:
[56:53] No.

Speaker 2:
[56:54] Jenna was not fine with it and in fact, she didn't say this but I'm putting it together. She was so flattered that he had asked her on a date and she thought that was so old-fashioned and sweet. She had never really been asked on a date.

Speaker 1:
[57:07] Oh, yeah. He's like, dutch.

Speaker 5:
[57:13] So dutch, dutchy.

Speaker 2:
[57:16] He keeps fucking talking about marriage and stuff. On the after show, she's like, I want kids. I really want kids and he does not want kids. So I'm like, Eddie, what are you doing talking about marriage, talking about future, and ignoring the biggest riff that could ever be to say this isn't going to happen.

Speaker 3:
[57:42] It's disgusting.

Speaker 2:
[57:44] I'm appalled. Yeah. I like Eddie. He's fine. It's just like, it's not-

Speaker 1:
[57:48] I hate him.

Speaker 2:
[57:50] Okay. Well, Amy's going into Ben's cabin tonight.

Speaker 7:
[57:52] It sounds like.

Speaker 1:
[57:54] I'm heading right in, right behind Jenna. I'll do it for my country.

Speaker 2:
[58:00] C-U-N-T-R-Y.

Speaker 4:
[58:10] My cuntie.

Speaker 7:
[58:13] Tis of me. You're like Brittany right now.

Speaker 5:
[58:19] Sorry, it's so funny hearing her voice.

Speaker 4:
[58:23] My cuntie. Tis of me.

Speaker 1:
[58:29] I thought that, oh God, I had to pull up the other.

Speaker 4:
[58:33] My cuntie. Tis of me.

Speaker 7:
[58:37] You know what it's like? It's like Kimmy in Ladies of London, where she's like, what a dump, and then she just laughs and laughs.

Speaker 3:
[58:45] Yes.

Speaker 6:
[58:46] I'm sorry, I can't stop.

Speaker 3:
[58:48] I just picture Erica just humping the flag and whatever old videos, just spending all this money, just shitting on America. It's like fucking America. All right.

Speaker 1:
[59:02] Well, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 2:
[59:06] I want to know from the darlings, by the way, should Ben have intervened on Ellie's behalf right before the cake?

Speaker 1:
[59:12] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[59:14] Knowing that was the last chance to save his fellow-

Speaker 5:
[59:18] Sous chef.

Speaker 1:
[59:19] Yeah. I was like, Gally girl.

Speaker 2:
[59:21] Or second chef. Remember he gave her an upgrade on her title so she would- Anyway. You get the idea. Ben had stopped her. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[59:30] Because he really murdered her.

Speaker 2:
[59:31] At least from bringing the cake. Should Ben have stopped Ellie from bringing that cake?

Speaker 3:
[59:36] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[59:38] Absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[59:38] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[59:39] I'm just getting my pastry started.

Speaker 3:
[59:42] That's Ellie waking up two hours before Ellie, two hours before her shift. Joelle felt like a fucking asshole.

Speaker 1:
[59:50] He was reaching out to hug her when she was like, I made you this cake or whatever.

Speaker 3:
[59:56] She's like, I woke up two hours before shift.

Speaker 5:
[59:59] He's like, oh, fuck, because he knows that is such a sacrifice.

Speaker 1:
[60:04] Like waking up early before you do these long ass days.

Speaker 7:
[60:08] Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[60:09] And I'm pretty sure it was after a crew night, right? Or maybe not. Maybe not. I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[60:15] No, no. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[60:22] All right.

Speaker 1:
[60:22] We got to get out of here. Thanks so much for listening, you all. You all are just a bunch of darlings and I love you for it. Head on over to patreon.com/dramadarling for more, for ad free and for video of your tier two, all kinds of stuff. Live recap on Friday for Beverly Hills Reunion, Summer House, blah, blah, blah coming up.

Speaker 5:
[60:42] Bye guys. Bye, Ems.

Speaker 2:
[60:44] Bye.

Speaker 4:
[60:46] Cunty. Tears of the sweet puss of liberty. I can't.