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Speaker 1:
[00:01] The following podcast is a DearMedia production.

Speaker 2:
[00:16] Hey guys.

Speaker 3:
[00:17] I hope you guys are getting comfy with the new, the new sketch, because we are.

Speaker 4:
[00:22] And happy, happy Thursday, about to be a Friday. Thursday's actually my favorite day of the week, dare I say.

Speaker 1:
[00:27] Really?

Speaker 4:
[00:28] Yeah, I like that I just know- You like to be edged. Yes, I like that I know the weekend's coming, and it's just a good day, it feels good, you know?

Speaker 3:
[00:35] It is, yeah. It feels like a Friday.

Speaker 4:
[00:37] I actually really don't like a Wednesday.

Speaker 3:
[00:40] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[00:40] And I think that's maybe why subconsciously we haven't done our What We Said Wednesday episodes, as everyone has asked us to in the distant past, it's like, why wouldn't you just do a Wednesday? It flows so well. Well, I don't like Wednesdays.

Speaker 3:
[00:53] Yeah, I can agree on that. It's even though it flows right off the tongue, it's not meant for us.

Speaker 4:
[00:59] No.

Speaker 3:
[01:00] Your shoes are so cute, I already mentioned this to you.

Speaker 4:
[01:02] Thank you, got some jellies.

Speaker 3:
[01:04] The color's fabulous.

Speaker 4:
[01:05] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[01:06] The navy.

Speaker 4:
[01:07] Yeah, I usually don't wear very dark shoes. Another one of my weird fashion rules that I made up for myself.

Speaker 5:
[01:13] Well, dark shoes like make your feet look smaller, so they, you tend to like not gravitate towards them.

Speaker 3:
[01:20] I feel the same way. I've kind of had to like, over time, train myself to like, like black or brown or...

Speaker 4:
[01:26] Yeah, I feel like I would always wear light sneakers, light flats, like anything I just wanted light, light, light, because I, maybe because of that, because my feet are very small in general, very, very tiny, very tiny, very tiny.

Speaker 3:
[01:38] Cinderella feet.

Speaker 4:
[01:39] Speaking of Cinderella, I recently watched Cinderella.

Speaker 3:
[01:42] Really?

Speaker 4:
[01:42] The old, you know, 19, when was it made? Like the 1950s or 60s.

Speaker 3:
[01:47] Literally so long ago.

Speaker 4:
[01:48] The colors in old Disney movies are so inspiring and I don't think I would be watching them in the same light if I didn't have a kid. Like, I don't know, why would I just go back and be like, you know what, I'm going to watch Cinderella or like The Little Mermaid right now. We've been watching a little bit of old Disney here and there. And these movies, I'm like, I don't even know how to explain the feelings that I get watching them because I don't even know if it's nostalgia. It's like, this is art. Like these colors are so insane. Bambi, some of the prettiest, like.

Speaker 3:
[02:24] When you know someone like really took time on each frame. That's the other thing. It's like, there's not, there's not a lot of, you know, technology they're leaning on in terms of like AI or things like that, CGI.

Speaker 4:
[02:35] The color combos, just everything. Specifically, recently in Bambi, Cinderella.

Speaker 3:
[02:41] Bambi's so sad though.

Speaker 4:
[02:42] I know. And Little Mermaid. Little Mermaid has some insane colors. But also, can we talk about the end of Little Mermaid, how chaotic it gets? It's actually.

Speaker 3:
[02:51] I haven't seen Little Mermaid in so long.

Speaker 4:
[02:54] I mean, it's happy because they like end up together, but it's like so insane. Just do me a favor, ladies. Go watch the original Little Mermaid.

Speaker 3:
[03:04] That she's away from her family.

Speaker 4:
[03:06] Yeah. And then Ursula comes, and it's like this huge like storm in the ocean, and Eric's getting like thrown. I mean, definitely should have died a million times, but you know, he's persevered.

Speaker 3:
[03:16] Of course.

Speaker 4:
[03:16] Yeah. And no, but I've really been enjoying that era because I'm like, yeah, I don't think if I didn't have a toddler, I don't think I would be caring about this, but I do, and I love that.

Speaker 3:
[03:28] I love the old Disney. I went on the Little Mermaid ride at Disneyland, or actually it's that California Adventure, and that ride itself is so old as well. But I was reminded of how kind of scary some of those older movies are when you're watching them with the eyes of a toddler.

Speaker 4:
[03:45] I know. No, they're actually-

Speaker 1:
[03:46] She takes her voice.

Speaker 4:
[03:48] I know, and the evil laughing and stuff. But I think Benny's too young to understand that it's scary because Ursula was laughing and then Benny was cracking up. It's so evil. Benny's just dying laughing, thinking it's just a fun laugh. So anyway, that's what I've been up to apparently. I really, seriously, my update this week is that I have been very wholesome the past week or two. I have been in the backyard sprucing up our herb garden, putting some finishing touches on the outside area. We still, half of our yard is still not done and it won't be for a little bit, but I've let that just deter me from it. It's not done. And I'm like, let me just focus on the part that actually looks really nice in our yard. And let me, yeah, because it's been so nice to be outside lately. And I'm like, I'm not just going to waste the half of the yard. That's great. So been focusing on that. And that's been really great. We've been outside a lot. I've been reading.

Speaker 3:
[04:51] What have you been reading?

Speaker 4:
[04:52] I read The Great Alone. I wanted to save that for my April favorites. So maybe I'll go into it more then. And then I just started the book Yesteryear. Have you heard of it? Very interesting concept. It's a basically like trad wife influencer type of girl. Like a girl who's, I mean, it's got to be based off Ballerina Farm. I don't even know how they could get away with... I wonder if Ballerina Farm could like sue literally. Cause it's like the exact situation basically. But the premise of it, I'm very early on to it, is that she's this traditional wife influencer type person she has. Like, it's literally her life. It seems like Hannah's life. It's like, she, her husband's super rich and they live on this farm. And they're basically, you know, showing themselves making sourdough and picking eggs from the chicken. But they have tons of help behind the scenes. Like, they have like three nannies. They have three nannies. They have a producer. They have people behind the scenes that help them film all their content and watch their kids and everything. And so, it's like her perspective, like the influencer's perspective of being like, you know, she...

Speaker 3:
[05:59] It's written in her voice?

Speaker 5:
[06:01] Oh.

Speaker 4:
[06:02] But then the interesting part that I just got to...

Speaker 5:
[06:04] That's actually crazy.

Speaker 4:
[06:06] It is crazy. So it's that, but then the interesting thing is that...

Speaker 3:
[06:10] Does she have nine kids?

Speaker 4:
[06:12] Mm, I don't think she has nine. Maybe like six or seven.

Speaker 5:
[06:15] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[06:17] That's Ballerina Farm.

Speaker 4:
[06:18] But the whole point of the book and the twist that I just got to is that she's then... She wakes up one day and she's actually in 1855. She's in the same house. She has the same husband, the same kids. But like now it's like you don't have any help. You don't have a phone. You don't have whatever. And it's like, it's very interesting. I wonder if it's going to be a controversial read.

Speaker 5:
[06:40] Is it new?

Speaker 4:
[06:41] I think it is new. Yeah. I think it's actually just...

Speaker 5:
[06:43] Like my hot take is that I feel like Hannah would be fine.

Speaker 4:
[06:47] With it?

Speaker 5:
[06:48] With being in 1858.

Speaker 4:
[06:50] Oh.

Speaker 5:
[06:52] Like that she actually would be fine.

Speaker 4:
[06:54] I'm sure she would. I think it's just like an interesting perspective of like, okay, you're this influencer and you live this life. But like, again, it's not even... I don't even have super strong feelings towards her. Like I don't feel any type of way of like idolizing her or thinking that she's doing harm. Like I feel a lot of different range of things about that whole topic, honestly. I just think it's like an interesting concept of like, you know, I don't think it really is... When I was reading it, I was like, okay, so this is her life. But then there are other elements where I'm like, oh, that doesn't...

Speaker 3:
[07:30] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[07:31] I don't want to give stuff away, but I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[07:33] Like with all the tradwives, I feel like, again, maybe she just doesn't have a fabulous job of doing a, you know, presenting herself in one way. I'm like, of all the tough women in this world, I feel like for what I see of her and how the way she's built... Me?

Speaker 1:
[07:47] I woke up in 1858. Goodbye.

Speaker 4:
[07:50] Yeah. I know.

Speaker 3:
[07:52] I mean, like her and I feel like she actually could handle a lot of it.

Speaker 4:
[07:57] Yeah. We'll never know. That's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[07:59] Like, we'll never know anyone.

Speaker 4:
[08:00] No, we never know. That's why I'm saying this is probably...

Speaker 3:
[08:02] Take anyone and put them in 1858.

Speaker 4:
[08:04] Yeah. That's why it's probably controversial. Because I could assume... I don't know. I mean, I'm literally on chapter, like, two. So I don't know anything. But I thought it was a very interesting concept. So I think it's kind of like a thrill. Like, she can't understand if she's in a dream or if, like, she's... Yeah, she doesn't really know what's happening. I just got to that part.

Speaker 3:
[08:26] That's so funny that people can, like, make stories or, like, fanfic almost of influencers and people. And then they just, like... Like, what's the one that's super popular that was basically about Harry Styles? They made a movie of it, and it's, like, clearly about Harry Styles. But then it's like, well, no, it's, you know, about a pop star that's British.

Speaker 1:
[08:47] And he falls in love with an older lady.

Speaker 5:
[08:49] Like, just, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[08:51] It's crazy that people can just, like, do that. And it's, like, people know who you're talking about, but you're like, no, this is just a story I came up with.

Speaker 4:
[08:56] No, it's true. Like, you changed enough subtle details.

Speaker 3:
[08:58] Like, I could just, like, pick an influencer and then just, like, write a novel, like, basically about their life.

Speaker 4:
[09:03] Yeah, totally. It's very-

Speaker 3:
[09:05] But then, like, add my own little, like, twists and turns into it.

Speaker 4:
[09:07] Here's the thing. I will say, it really is, like, you, when you are an influencer, to some degree, you are performing, like everyone. You are, like, showing the, you're showing flattering moments of yourself, and I mean that in every single way. Like, you are not gonna, I mean, some people do show, I guess, unflattering things, but it's also, that's also a performance. It's like, and I'm not even saying that in, like, oh, you're not being authentic, but everything you're showing is a curation of what you want people to see. So even if it is showing yourself crying on the bathroom floor, and it's, like, authentic, but at the end of the day, like, that's part of your brand and your performance, and you're aware of that. So it's like, it is actually really interesting. I've seen some people, I saw some discourse online about going to Coachella and being in, like, the artist area or in the VIP area and being, like, oh, like, some of these influencers are horrible. Like, they seem like they're nice online and then you meet them in person, and it's, like, they're the worst person you've ever met. And I haven't had that experience a ton, but I have a few times where, like, I— Everyone at Coachella falls asleep, wakes up, they're actually at Woodstock.

Speaker 3:
[10:23] How would they do?

Speaker 4:
[10:24] New book idea.

Speaker 3:
[10:25] How would they do? They wake up, they're actually in the 70s.

Speaker 4:
[10:29] I know.

Speaker 3:
[10:30] It's just— And they have to actually cram into a bus to get there, and they actually, like— And they can't post about their outfits. Yeah, about their outfits or anything. How would they do? I know.

Speaker 4:
[10:40] Very interesting concept. Very interesting thing about— But my point is that, you know, it is surprising sometimes, going back to last week, when I was saying I was, like, 20-something years old, when I realized, like, people just lie about certain things. It's like, it took me a while to understand, because a lot of influencers that I've met through social media are the exact same, to a degree. Like, when I meet them in person, I'm like, oh, yeah, you seem the exact same. Made friends with lots of them. Like, where I feel like they're very good people, and I get along with them great. But it's like, then throughout different— going to different events, going on different brand trips, like, meeting certain people, I'm like, oh, you're not who you portray yourself to be. Like, I had this— and that's maybe just my perception, but it's like, I had this kind of idea of you because of the content you post, then I met you in real life, or like, I see behind the scenes of your life, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing. So, my point in saying that is you really never know. Like, Hannah could be a really, like, amazing person, and she could be super tough, super resourceful, or she could not be. We have no idea. Like, we don't know, because also she's not entitled to tell us, yeah, I have a content girl who comes every morning, I have three nannies.

Speaker 1:
[12:02] She could also lie about it.

Speaker 5:
[12:03] Yeah, I was gonna say, hasn't she also said she doesn't? Right, but that we're distrusting her.

Speaker 3:
[12:07] Yeah, she could just completely be lying. Yeah, I choose not to go about life that way. That's so scary. Like, to choose that everyone is just, like, completely lying about everything. Which I know they are, but I just choose not to think that. Because it's like, then at that point, it's on you, like, for belief. Like, it's, how does that affect me?

Speaker 4:
[12:28] Well, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[12:29] I'd rather just move on. Like, it's not affecting me to believe you.

Speaker 4:
[12:32] Right, it's your own narrative that you are choosing to believe. So it's like, do you know what I'm saying, though? Like, it is interesting when it's like, you meet certain people, it's not. Well, it's kind of the same thing.

Speaker 3:
[12:41] It's like, the same thing as when people are like, the Kardashians or something, and they're like, they're lying about all the things they've gotten done, where it's like, oh, I'm supernatural. I've never gotten Botox, but they get these insane facials that are basically way more complex than Botox and have better results. And it's like, oh, they just take really good care of their skin with skincare. And it's like, they probably do something else besides. Right. And it's that kind of same thing. They're lying about it, but if they're saying a certain, like, I haven't got any work done or I haven't done this. But they have lots of trainers and they have whatever, all this help. And it's like, you kind of just have to stay in your lane and have your own discernment.

Speaker 4:
[13:23] I agree.

Speaker 3:
[13:24] You cannot count on everyone to be honest about everything.

Speaker 4:
[13:26] No, you can't. I think, I do see both sides to this, like, tradwife argument thing, where it's like, you are also making millions of dollars off of, like, tons of young girls. So it's like, morally, would I prefer you're just honest? Yeah, of course. Like, maybe you are though, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[13:48] That's the thing, you never know who is actually being honest and who's not.

Speaker 4:
[13:52] Right. So it's like, you're just gonna trust zero people, I guess. But yeah, it is interesting. I'll let you know how I like the book.

Speaker 3:
[13:59] Yeah. I think, you know, it's probably better in general with people on social media to, like, just, what I'm saying is, like, your own discernment is, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Like, this person's telling you the truth and they're gonna sell me, like, this narrative and this way that I should live and I'm gonna follow them 100% and just bank on them telling the truth. Right. Or it's like, okay, you can just see what they're doing.

Speaker 4:
[14:21] You can enjoy their content, take inspiration from it and move on, even if they are.

Speaker 3:
[14:24] Like, well, they did this, so I should be able to have the same thing they did because they said they did this.

Speaker 4:
[14:30] Right.

Speaker 3:
[14:31] They're selling me this workout program, they said they did it, they look amazing.

Speaker 1:
[14:35] Like, really.

Speaker 4:
[14:36] You can go down that route in pretty much any area and everyone's trying to make money. I also love to see a woman making money, so it's like, you know, I'm not, I'm not mad at all that she makes money definitely like on her products. And I think she's super talented and super strategic, honestly. So like, I have a lot of respect for that. But there are a lot of different, I guess, like nuanced things within that that are interesting to consider.

Speaker 3:
[15:04] I think it gets more problematic to me when somebody is trying to sell you directly, like, here's how to be like me products. And like, this is like a course on how to be like me. And this is what happens so that like, like, if somebody is... What?

Speaker 4:
[15:20] Us in 2020?

Speaker 3:
[15:22] That was true. But I'm saying like, oh, hey, this is how I got like this amazing, like what I was saying, like this is how I got this amazing body.

Speaker 1:
[15:29] Like, you, like, buy this course, because then you can be like me, you know what I'm saying? Like, here's my tradwife course.

Speaker 3:
[15:37] Like, buy, oh, hey, you guys, if you want to be happy, then you have to stop working. And they're like telling you how to live instead of just like, oh, this is how I'm living. It's like, that's their life. It's like, they're not telling you how to live. Their content isn't centered around telling you how to live versus someone who is, who's more like trying to sell the dream of like, this is how you should live and this will make you happier if you have this many kids and this will make, versus someone just...

Speaker 4:
[16:04] Just doing that. I agree and yeah, I think I'm being insufferable, but I agree and I can see a different side of her. It's like, I would argue to some degree that she is selling a dream and she is like, making it look...

Speaker 3:
[16:19] I'm not saying she's not or is doing that. I'm just saying that's like, that's when it gets problematic in general. I'm no Ballerina Farm defender. I'm not on her payroll or anything like that.

Speaker 4:
[16:28] Yeah, no.

Speaker 3:
[16:29] And I don't know her.

Speaker 4:
[16:30] There's a lot there that's, but at the end of the day, I also, like even Tradwife just gets thrown around a lot and it's like not the case. Like let's take away Ballerina Farm now. And people will be like Tradwife content in our Smith and it's like, she's literally just cooking and she is a model who works with super high-end brands and is like always on trips modeling and is working.

Speaker 3:
[17:00] A Tradwife doesn't work by definition.

Speaker 4:
[17:03] And she's also different like from the convert, when people loop her into the Tradwife conversation, I'm like, literally, what are you talking about? She's like at New York Fashion Week, walking and things and doing photo shoots all day. She's not a stay at home. She likes to cook. I don't understand that part of it. And yeah, I guess like the home birth, maybe that's why people are looping her into it, but that makes no sense to me. Hannah makes more sense, like, you know, looping her into that because she is living kind of more of that traditional life where she is at home on a farm, like all day. I mean, that's what it appears. But I do think that that whole thing just gets thrown way too easily. Like, seriously, if someone likes to cook, they're like, I made my husband dinner. It's like, tradwife, giving tradwife. I mean, let's be, you know, let's not be so hasty with it.

Speaker 3:
[17:51] But especially if a woman is working, it's like, it immediately cancels them out for being a tradwife. Like, the actual definition of a traditional life is in the home and not working. So if they're working, they're by definition not a tradwife.

Speaker 1:
[18:05] Right.

Speaker 3:
[18:06] Even if they claim to be, they're technically not.

Speaker 4:
[18:08] Yeah. Because they're making money.

Speaker 3:
[18:10] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:10] They're working.

Speaker 4:
[18:11] And Hannah's making money. Let's, let's be real.

Speaker 3:
[18:13] She's making lots of money.

Speaker 4:
[18:14] She's making lots of money.

Speaker 3:
[18:15] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[18:16] Yeah. Well, anywho.

Speaker 1:
[18:18] I just feel like just let Hannah live her life.

Speaker 3:
[18:21] Not that no one isn't, but it kind of is just like always a thing. Or it's like there's just worse people. This is like the thing where it's just like there's just worse people in the world to me.

Speaker 4:
[18:29] One hundred percent.

Speaker 3:
[18:30] Then to be like, she's so harmful, which like maybe she is, maybe she isn't. But like in terms of harm, harmful people in this world.

Speaker 4:
[18:39] Yeah. Let's there's we've definitely had bigger fish to fry than Hannah Nealman. For sure.

Speaker 3:
[18:44] It always comes back to Dixie eating a snail versus like literally male creators who do horrible, horrible things and literally like, well, that's just their thing. I've been and they literally sell like courses on how to be terrible men.

Speaker 4:
[18:58] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[18:58] Like, well, that's just their thing. Like, okay.

Speaker 4:
[19:02] Yeah. They don't get the same type of backlash.

Speaker 3:
[19:04] That's for sure.

Speaker 4:
[19:05] And the crime is much bigger in most cases.

Speaker 3:
[19:08] Yeah. And it all comes back to Rob. I'm dead. People send me, anytime he does anything, they like send it to me because they just know that I want to forget about this man and they're like, look, he's just so successful. I'm like, I know. Good for him. He's making money. Again, he's taking a woman's, you know, there's lots of female influencers that would have loved to be for Cosas Lip Plumper. Me, I actually use the product.

Speaker 4:
[19:32] Same wearing right now.

Speaker 3:
[19:33] Yeah, he probably doesn't actually wear it.

Speaker 1:
[19:35] So, but good for him.

Speaker 3:
[19:37] Handsome, charming guy.

Speaker 4:
[19:38] I know.

Speaker 3:
[19:39] Love him.

Speaker 4:
[19:41] It is interesting. It's like he's probably just absolutely making bank, but I do feel-

Speaker 3:
[19:46] Not that he did anything wrong.

Speaker 4:
[19:47] I guess, you know what, I would be curious because I do think that, like, let's not let this keep happening more and more. You know, Rob, you had your time to shine. You deserved it because you run traders. We love that for you. However, I hope this just doesn't become a pattern because I think, and I'm going to look it up right now, that women make more money than men in the influencer space. But I could be wrong because of like Logan Paul, Jake Paul. You know, I think those creators actually do make the most. Well, MrBeast and like PewDiePie, like the biggest YouTubers, I think are men.

Speaker 3:
[20:19] Are you looking at the biggest, the pay gap between the most successful influencer men and the most successful influencer women? Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 4:
[20:28] Yeah, I just, well, I'm wondering like percentage-wise, I guess, yeah, we could do like that or just in general, like who makes, it says, multiple studies consistently find a gender pay gap favoring men. Men earn about 7 to 30 percent more per sponsored post on average. But women make up 75 to 80 percent.

Speaker 3:
[20:48] I would love to know how much Rob got paid to do that.

Speaker 4:
[20:51] Seriously. So statistically, more women are influencers, men often get paid more per deal.

Speaker 3:
[20:56] Which like he probably is bringing, like that was probably such a successful ad.

Speaker 4:
[21:02] Right.

Speaker 3:
[21:03] So it makes sense, but it's still frustrating.

Speaker 4:
[21:06] Women often get more brand deals, have higher engagement in lifestyle categories and build longer term brand relationships.

Speaker 5:
[21:12] Yeah, but get paid less, amazing.

Speaker 4:
[21:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[21:17] Get paid less per.

Speaker 4:
[21:18] Per post they get paid less.

Speaker 3:
[21:20] Fabulous.

Speaker 4:
[21:20] Statistically, that actually kind of surprises me. I'm going to be honest, that kind of surprises me. I would think that since 75 to 80 percent of influencers are women, I've always thought like it's a women-dominated field, which I love. So I'm wondering because of that and because we statistically get more brand deals, we maybe still make more money.

Speaker 3:
[21:40] Yeah, like overall.

Speaker 4:
[21:41] Overall, in a year or something. Yeah, but it's for less.

Speaker 3:
[21:46] Twice as hard and do twice as many brand deals as a guy.

Speaker 4:
[21:49] Yeah. That's cool. Awesome. We love that.

Speaker 3:
[21:51] Anyways.

Speaker 4:
[21:52] Anyway, I have been wearing so many cute FP movement outfits, whether it's to work out, to go on a walk and then run errands afterwards. FP movement just gets it. Their silhouettes, their colors, the quality, it's all amazing. They do all this without sacrificing technical function, which is very important to me. I feel like sometimes it's very hard to find workout stuff that's cute, but that also is gonna perform like when you are weightlifting or you're at Pilates, it's not like pulling in weird places. So they have performance sports bras, leggings, shorts, outerwear, and more with colors, details, and styles that you won't find anywhere else. I get a lot of compliments on multiple FP movement pieces that I have, specifically the bubble pants that have like a little tie. They're super flattering. They're the perfect length, especially if you're short. They just like hit the perfect spot on your ankle. And again, I love wearing them to workout classes, but then I feel like they're cute enough to just like go run errands, and they look a little bit elevated and nice, but they're still performing, and I love that.

Speaker 3:
[22:48] Their sets and one pieces are some of my go-to for running errands post-workout, or just lounging in at home. I love when something looks cute, and maybe you have some fun colors, some fun silhouettes. You could wear them to the workout, but then you can also wear them for the rest of the day, and it's not just giving so active wear, but it also looks comfortable and cute, and yeah, you just feel comfortable wearing it all day long. FP Movement really does. You need to go on their site and look around. They have some of the cutest accessories, the cutest little sets. I just got this a couple weeks ago. I was wearing this green fleece quarter zip from FP Movement on the podcast, if you remember, and I get so many compliments on it. They have the best colors, truly. You want fun, colorful workout gear, they have some cute colors and some really cute silhouettes to check out. You can visit fpmovement.com to shop their full line of active wear and workout gear. Go check it out, fpmovement.com. I'm sure you guys have heard of Thrive Market before, but if you haven't, it is seriously one of the best things that I've ever discovered in this life for grocery shopping. Thrive Market is a membership-based online grocery. For just $5 a month, you get access to a curated selection of organic and non-GMO brands, 90 plus dietary filters, weekly sales, free gifts, and the peace of mind that 1,000 plus ingredients are already restricted. So you have one annual fee, and then you get priceless peace of mind. It's so nice to shop somewhere where you don't have to be looking at the ingredients so much on every single piece. You just know that Thrive Market has already vetted it for you. And it's really nice if you are gluten-free, or if you have a kid who has an allergy, like anything like that, it's so nice to be able to just filter their products, and then you can just add it to your cart. It makes the whole grocery shopping experience so easy. They have the best brands on there. They have the best snacks. They have the best go-to meals that you can make. They have some of my favorite pasta sauces, or just pastas in general. They have so many good things.

Speaker 1:
[24:43] If you haven't tried it yet, you are missing out.

Speaker 4:
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Speaker 3:
[27:00] They have some really cute sandals like Jaci was saying. I have a pair from Sam Edelman that I love and I go to all the time. They're like a brown leather strap and then black on the bottom and they're leather. They're so chic and I love, I literally have worn them through so many different seasons. So many of my favorite shoes are from Sam Edelman. They have so many different looks and silhouettes and colors that are just, you just reach for all the time. So you can visit samedelman.com to explore everything that you need for spring and get 15% off with the code whatwesaid15. Again, that's samedelman.com and code whatwesaid15 for 15% off. Speaking of men, I had my 10 year anniversary last week.

Speaker 4:
[27:40] You men.

Speaker 3:
[27:40] I've been married to a man for 10 whole years. And I was going through some of our like 2016, like really true looking like at 10 years, like in 2016, like when we were engaged in our wedding and like, you know, even post-married, just like all the year 2016 was feeling so incredibly nostalgic of that year.

Speaker 4:
[28:00] And just- What a great year.

Speaker 3:
[28:01] And I was really thinking about weddings. And I was like looking through my, I've like post, I usually will like put a throwback or something to my wedding on my anniversary or something. And I've gotten comments in the past when I post and they're like, oh, I know you regret that headband or like, oh, I know you regret those flower crowns or whatever. And not a ounce of me regrets a single thing that I did. I was like truly looking within and I was like, do I regret that? Like, I'm like, no, because looking back now, I love how like it, you know what year that was. And it feels so like magical that it was so that year. Like I was like, would I rather look at this and be like, oh, that could have been this year. It's like, who gives a rip about that? And I was thinking like, if you're planning a wedding, like I would want to hear that where it's like, you want to be timeless so bad. And it's like, for what? Like, so you can look back in 10 years and not know when you got married.

Speaker 4:
[28:55] Well, it also is not gonna be timeless. Like regardless, the photography style, if you had a slick back look or whatever. I just saw this video this girl made, her name's Molly, she's so funny on TikTok. She was saying, she's like, I do not understand that because that is like the first thing I clock when I see a wedding photo. She's like, do you look at photos from the 80s and you're like, hmm, like when was this? It's like, oh, it's obviously was the 80s. That's the point of a photograph, is to document that moment in time.

Speaker 1:
[29:27] Why would you wanna be like, oh, was this yesterday or 10 years ago?

Speaker 4:
[29:29] I know, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5:
[29:31] No, and it's like, it was exactly what I wanted at the time.

Speaker 3:
[29:35] Like I did everything that I wanted to do. So why would I have a regret about it? Yeah. Like I would much rather that and have something that's like so that time period it's like, oh my gosh, that was like so, I can't even believe I did that because it was just such a trend.

Speaker 1:
[29:50] I much rather would have that, but it's like, I was so happy that day. I loved everything.

Speaker 3:
[29:55] Then be like, I don't like love this, but I know it'll be timeless. I know it's classic. Like, oh, I just should stay classic. It's like, no.

Speaker 4:
[30:01] I agree.

Speaker 3:
[30:02] Not at all. And I was just like looking back with such nostalgia of like 2016 things like that. We used to use like an app, it was like eight millimeter app, where it was like the videos.

Speaker 1:
[30:13] We were so many videos of those like clips.

Speaker 3:
[30:17] And it was just so like Lana Del Rey coated, just like so like Roses by the Chainsmokers. Like that song just like plays in my head when I think of 2016. Anyways, I was feeling very nostalgic about that. And I was like, I cannot believe that this is 10 years ago now. A decade. That we were just little babies getting married. I know. Even like pictures of us, like from the wedding where it's like, we're dancing. I'm like, we are babies. We're so young, but we look so like fresh faced and just like cute. Just like, I just look back with such fondness of like my younger self. I was watching videos of, I saw, it was like, it came up. It was like us singing, like me and you and a couple of our friends from high school. Like we were singing in high school, like this song, like on a guitar. And it was like us talking. And then we started singing, like harmonizing.

Speaker 2:
[31:06] It was just like, it was just so cute.

Speaker 3:
[31:10] Like it was posted by our friend's mom, shout out Sandy. She like posted it. And I was like, I'm like picturing it now from like the point of view of like the parents, just like seeing these high school girls and they're just like singing and like playing.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] I literally wanted to sob.

Speaker 3:
[31:24] I'm just like, we were so pure and just like having so much fun and just like being silly. And like, yes, it's like cringing now, like watching back, like some of the outfits we're wearing, whatever. And I'm just like, but who cares?

Speaker 4:
[31:37] Like literally who cares?

Speaker 3:
[31:39] It's so fun. It's so cute. It's so free. It's like so millennial.

Speaker 4:
[31:43] Did you watch Addison Rae at all on or her, any of her Coachella sets?

Speaker 3:
[31:48] No, I saw like clips here and there, but.

Speaker 4:
[31:51] I'm so over the Addison Rae hate as well. Like, because that's the main critique of her is like cringy or like, oh, she's trying to whatever. And I'm like, this is iconic in every way. She was a TikToker who everyone thought was cringy. And she's now on the stage at Coachella with this whole thing, wearing these fabulous outfits, performing, doing dances, being silly.

Speaker 3:
[32:15] Such a good dancer.

Speaker 4:
[32:16] Such a good dancer. Has all these backup dancers singing with Olivia Rodrigo, like. And I'm just like, I don't know. I love to see it. I think it is so fun. And I'm just like, I don't even care if she is an incredible, people are so critical. I'm just like, that should be someone else because she's not even telling me like just give it a rest. She obviously has star quality and she obviously deserves to be where she is, even if she's not the best singer in the entire world. There are actually a lot of people who are really great performers and who aren't super like vocally gifted, but they're just amazing performers, like fun pop star vibes. Yeah, it's just like, just enjoy.

Speaker 3:
[32:59] Just auto-tune, yeah, just enjoy it.

Speaker 4:
[33:00] Who cares if she deserves it or not? Like it's iconic to me and I just love to see it.

Speaker 3:
[33:06] I love that. I think there's just something innately, like maybe it's in everyone, but there's like TikToks where it's like when everyone hates a girl, like you just do something and you just like, now I have to defend them.

Speaker 4:
[33:18] Wants to defend her, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[33:19] Or it's like they're getting so much, like that is how I feel sometimes just about like certain things. There's like everyone and then sometimes the opposite. It's like everyone loves this man and it's like, sorry, now I have to hate him. I have to find his flaws. Like I can't just let this man go around everyone loving him and like no one's checking him. Now great, now I have to be the one.

Speaker 4:
[33:36] Now it's my duty.

Speaker 3:
[33:37] Now it's my duty. But yeah, I just love girls. I just think they're so great. Me too.

Speaker 4:
[33:44] Well, happy anniversary. Happy 10 year. It's so wild. I think 2016 was a universally iconic year. Aside from us getting married, I think that year maybe it's just because we got married. That's why I think of it that way. But I do feel like the summer of 2016. Yeah, it like stands out to me for sure.

Speaker 3:
[34:02] Yes. I know. It's just a pivotal moment in time. When I hear somebody that was born close to like that year and they're like a functioning adult in the human society.

Speaker 4:
[34:15] No, I'm horrified.

Speaker 3:
[34:16] People being born, like my brother, my little brother was talking and he was like, I was born in 2004. I was like, I was like, no, you weren't 2004.

Speaker 5:
[34:24] I'm like, I was in fourth grade.

Speaker 3:
[34:25] And I was like, oh yeah, I guess I was in fourth grade when you were born.

Speaker 1:
[34:28] I'm like, sorry, 2004.

Speaker 3:
[34:31] You're not allowed to be contributing to society. You're too young still.

Speaker 4:
[34:35] Scaring me so bad.

Speaker 3:
[34:36] It's so crazy.

Speaker 4:
[34:37] It is crazy.

Speaker 3:
[34:38] So yeah, it was fun. We had a little like, we just did something very low key. We're having something fun this summer we're doing, but it's just nice to get away and just be a couple by ourselves. And then some poor planning on my part, or poor or good planning on my part when I got married was that I put my wedding two days before my actual birthday. So it's like Nick's Super Bowl that week, where it's like, okay, the anniversary. And then my birthday is two days later. Like there's a day break and then I have my birthday. And yeah, now I'm 31 and I feel so different.

Speaker 4:
[35:12] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[35:12] Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 4:
[35:13] Do you actually?

Speaker 3:
[35:14] No, I feel the exact same as I did two days ago. I do feel as though time is just going faster and faster. And Nick and I were talking about this when we were like on our anniversary. We were just like, I was getting so sentimental about time. Like I was feeling so just like, oh my gosh, we were talking about the boys and how fast they're growing up.

Speaker 5:
[35:35] And I like was sobbing.

Speaker 3:
[35:37] I'm like, oh my gosh, I cannot believe that case is so old. And like, I feel like he was just born yesterday. Like we were talking about the trip that we took when he was one. And I was like, he was one? Like, oh my gosh, I can't even believe that was three years ago, whatever. We were just talking about time passing and how much faster time goes the older you get. Like one year when you're 19 feels like 10 years now. You know? It's true.

Speaker 4:
[35:59] It just absolutely flies by. Honestly, 31 to me, when I turned 31 just a few months ago, it was giving 40 to me. I was like, oh, I'm 40.

Speaker 3:
[36:07] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[36:08] It just feels like-

Speaker 3:
[36:09] It made a big jump.

Speaker 4:
[36:10] Even though I still feel young, it's like, okay, so I'm into the 30s now. It's not just like, oh, I just turned 30. I'm basically 25.

Speaker 3:
[36:17] I'm so young.

Speaker 4:
[36:18] Yeah. It's like, no, no, no, we're ancient. Like, it's crazy. Not that I actually feel different physically, but 31, we're in it now.

Speaker 3:
[36:25] Yeah, I know. We're in it. It does feel- It's like not the best age, 31.

Speaker 1:
[36:31] Like 32, okay. 33, I love 33.

Speaker 4:
[36:34] Yeah, 33 seems like a good one.

Speaker 3:
[36:35] Something to 33, but like 31, you're just kind of like-

Speaker 4:
[36:37] That's kind of a weird one.

Speaker 3:
[36:38] You're just there.

Speaker 4:
[36:39] I agree. Well, should we get into these would you rathers?

Speaker 3:
[36:42] Yeah, let's do it. Would you rather be 31 or 30?

Speaker 4:
[36:46] I'd rather be 30, personally. Okay, would you rather always have amazing hair, but your outfit is always slightly off, or always have perfect outfits, but your hair never cooperates?

Speaker 5:
[36:56] Oh, well, I don't have to choose.

Speaker 4:
[36:58] I know what your choice is.

Speaker 3:
[36:58] I live in the second one, and I've become accustomed to that. So that's mine.

Speaker 4:
[37:03] See, and I'm the opposite, because I already live in the first one. Wait, I actually have, my hair doesn't cooperate and my outfits are off.

Speaker 3:
[37:10] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[37:10] So either one of these is an improvement to me. I'm actually gonna choose, I would rather always have amazing hair, but my outfit being off.

Speaker 3:
[37:19] I think I would choose that in like a dream life, because I really truly believe in the hair theory, and I think that just comes from a place of like jealousy, that it's like, well, I would love to experience that, where I just have like amazing hair. And yeah.

Speaker 4:
[37:35] I sent Chelsea a reel the other day of Matilda Jurf's hair, like her pinning her hair up in the car. The way I- It makes me sick. I would genuinely sell my soul to have that hair.

Speaker 3:
[37:46] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[37:46] And I'm not kidding.

Speaker 3:
[37:47] No, same.

Speaker 1:
[37:48] That, okay, actually, hair theory is so real. Like if you have amazing hair, it literally makes or breaks your brand, your identity.

Speaker 3:
[37:57] Like think about like these artists, like even Sabrina Carpenter, it's like she has such iconic hair.

Speaker 4:
[38:02] Yeah, that's a wig though. So that's that's attainable for us ladies.

Speaker 1:
[38:06] Exactly. It's like, it is true though. Whether it's fake or not, whether it's dyed or whatever, like it is just incredible.

Speaker 3:
[38:11] Like you just know someone by their hair. If someone has, it's true. Even Chaperone, like she's very identifiable hair.

Speaker 1:
[38:18] It's true.

Speaker 3:
[38:18] And it's like very iconic. I agree.

Speaker 4:
[38:23] It's so true. Seeing that video.

Speaker 3:
[38:27] Lindsay Lohan even, like there's just so many people, it's like their hair is so much of like them.

Speaker 4:
[38:33] Yeah, I need to lock in.

Speaker 3:
[38:35] Yeah, you need to lock in.

Speaker 4:
[38:36] These roots touched up.

Speaker 3:
[38:37] I think I just need to like get a wig or something. Get a wig. Or like really like try really hard every day and like put an hour into my hair.

Speaker 4:
[38:43] I think your very short hair is like very much a look.

Speaker 3:
[38:47] Yeah, that's a very, yeah, I also, it's a lot of upkeep.

Speaker 4:
[38:50] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[38:51] I have to go get it cut all the time, but I also agree. I need a haircut so bad. It's starting to like get to the point where it's like overstimulating me.

Speaker 4:
[38:56] I mean, it still feels short to me, but I'm just saying when it's like dark and very short, and even when you kind of slick it, to me, that's like a signature look of yours.

Speaker 3:
[39:03] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[39:04] Okay, back to Matilda. If I had her hair and it was naturally red, ho ho ho ho.

Speaker 5:
[39:10] Oh, see ya.

Speaker 4:
[39:11] Over for everyone.

Speaker 5:
[39:12] See ya.

Speaker 4:
[39:13] See ya. I, wow, that's what I would wish for. Like if I could have that, I wouldn't care if my outfits didn't eat.

Speaker 1:
[39:19] No one's looking at your outfits. Who cares? Who cares if the outfits off?

Speaker 3:
[39:22] Literally wear a trash bag every day.

Speaker 4:
[39:23] Wouldn't care. So that's my pick. That actually surprised me about you though. I thought you for sure were gonna say you always had perfect outfits.

Speaker 3:
[39:30] Well, I would say like that, but I would love a taste of the other life.

Speaker 4:
[39:34] Yeah. Okay. Would you rather be the planner of every trip or just show up and you have no control over anything?

Speaker 5:
[39:40] It depends on who's the planner.

Speaker 4:
[39:42] It's me.

Speaker 3:
[39:44] I would love to just sit back and relax. That's actually a hard one because I really, I like, like I'm pretty go with the flow, but I really don't like to do things I don't like to do.

Speaker 4:
[39:58] That's our agency mama. I'm 100% I would rather be the planner.

Speaker 3:
[40:02] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[40:03] Having no control.

Speaker 5:
[40:05] Wow.

Speaker 4:
[40:06] Having no control over a situation gives me so much. Thinking of someone's just like, we're going to go on this trip and I'll plan it.

Speaker 5:
[40:13] No.

Speaker 4:
[40:14] What's the itinerary? Show me what we're doing. I'm not going on a trip.

Speaker 3:
[40:18] A travel agent, sure. I'll do what you, if you know better than me, sure. If you know what's going on and I trust you, sure, I'll do what you want me to do. I trust you. If it's someone you know that has completely different interests than me and it's not revolving around food or shopping and like heaven forbid, like not even an adventure of any kind, I don't even know what else we would be doing. But if it's just sightseeing the whole time.

Speaker 4:
[40:43] No, that's what I'm saying. But that's the thing. You have no control over anything. So would you rather do all the labor and be the one planning?

Speaker 3:
[40:51] Oh, then be the one planning.

Speaker 4:
[40:51] Well, I'm already doing that.

Speaker 3:
[40:52] So yeah, be the one planning for sure.

Speaker 4:
[40:56] I have control issues is what I'm realizing.

Speaker 3:
[40:58] Also, the part that I don't like about planning everything, if it's just for me or just me and my family, great. If it's for a big group, I get stressed.

Speaker 6:
[41:08] It's stressful.

Speaker 3:
[41:08] That it's like, okay, what if everyone doesn't like where we go? This is not what everyone likes.

Speaker 4:
[41:12] No, that's true.

Speaker 3:
[41:13] The responsibility is on me.

Speaker 6:
[41:15] That's fair.

Speaker 4:
[41:15] I like planning trips for my family or my close friends. Because I feel like I get to buy something. If it was like, oh, plan this for your whole extended family, oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[41:27] Yeah. But would you rather have someone else in your extended family do it?

Speaker 4:
[41:30] No. That's what I'm saying. But would I rather show up to a family trip and say, we're doing all of what we planned, all of it. Surprise. I'd be like, kill me.

Speaker 5:
[41:39] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[41:40] Okay. I have a good one for you.

Speaker 5:
[41:41] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[41:42] Would you rather live in a house that you love, but a neighborhood you hate, or in a neighborhood you love in a house that you hate?

Speaker 4:
[41:50] 100% the house I love, neighborhood I hate.

Speaker 5:
[41:52] Really?

Speaker 3:
[41:53] I was kind of going back and forth because like a neighborhood you hate, like I'm thinking like you're not even in the like the city, the state, anything that you like. Like it's like a neighborhood you don't like, but like your house is amazing.

Speaker 5:
[42:07] Ooh, city and everything?

Speaker 3:
[42:08] Or like an amazing, like you literally live in the best neighborhood and it's beautiful and whatever, but your house just sucks.

Speaker 4:
[42:14] I still pick the first one because, and this is actually a problem that I'm trying to work on and solve. I just feel like I'm at my house a lot. Well, I'm trying to not be at my house all the time because even though I love being at my house, like it's, that's the point, right? Is to love your home.

Speaker 3:
[42:30] But I also like, You put all this hard work into it.

Speaker 4:
[42:32] I think I don't want to be, you know, repeating myself, but I think that, cause we kind of talked about like walkability on the podcast, right?

Speaker 3:
[42:41] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[42:41] And how I just realized that like a lot of my life is getting in the car to go somewhere and then getting the car going home. And there's not a lot of like walking to places like movement, aside from intentional, like if I go to a workout or like I, you know, a lot of times I go on walks, whatever. I'm saying all that to say that is the minority part of my life, not the majority. So it's like, that's great to prioritize like getting out on walks and like walking to places I love if I loved my neighborhood, right? But in my current life, majority of my life is at my house. So I'd rather just love my house. And then I can drive to a different neighborhood, go on a walk if I wanted, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[43:25] Yeah. I mean, neither is great, but no. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] I guess we have to specify the neighborhood. Is it like a horribly dangerous neighborhood? Like then no. Or is it just like, I don't like the vibes.

Speaker 3:
[43:37] You hate it. Whatever that means.

Speaker 4:
[43:39] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:39] You hate it. Like you don't like being in your neighborhood. You're just like every time you drive into the neighborhood, it's like, oh gosh, this is like the weather's terrible.

Speaker 1:
[43:49] Great.

Speaker 4:
[43:49] Well, that, now you're getting crazy because neighborhood. I feel like it's raining.

Speaker 3:
[43:53] It's great. Got to get an umbrella.

Speaker 1:
[43:55] Great.

Speaker 4:
[43:56] I'm really putting myself there. I'm choosing not to believe that it's like you're living in a completely different city and state because otherwise that would have to be in the question. Like you live in a state you hate, but you love your house. Neighborhood is, that's where, in my head, there's lots of neighborhoods around where I live. So you're just telling me I live around where I live, but it's in a neighborhood that I specifically hate. That's how I'm taking this question. Because if it was city and state different, then no, I would pick the other one.

Speaker 3:
[44:25] Because that's kind of what I was thinking. It's just not a place you love to live, but your house is great, but you're not living in the place you want to be living.

Speaker 4:
[44:33] That changes things for me. If it was a completely different city and state, I would choose 100% to hate my house.

Speaker 3:
[44:39] It would be really hard to live in a house that you hate, though. But real estate agents, they say, buy the worst house in the best neighborhood.

Speaker 4:
[44:46] True. Then you can renovate it. Crack the code. I'm like, I'll get the one I hate, completely renovate it. Talk to me about it.

Speaker 3:
[44:51] And then renovate it, but you have no money. That's the other part of the hypothetical. You live in the neighborhood that you live in the house you hate because you have no money. Great. You also have, like, making a bunch of other things.

Speaker 4:
[45:02] You also have seven kids and nieces and nieces. It's 1855 now.

Speaker 3:
[45:04] You are Ballerina Farm. Yeah, it's 1855. Now what would you pick? I'm so happy that we are sponsored by No CD. I love No CD. I use No CD and it seriously changed my life. I've gotten so many messages from listeners and girls who have been saying they suspected they had OCD and they made their first point with No CD and they feel so much better. And it makes me so happy when I get messages like that, seriously, because I know how much of a relief it can be to get help. So if you've ever felt like your brain won't stop looking for the next thing that could go wrong and you just feel like you can never relax, never enjoy life, no matter how much you want to, because you're so worried, or maybe you pay a ton of attention to your body and immediately spiral about any new physical sensation because you're terrified of getting a serious illness, or maybe you just got a promotion but you're scared that you'll jinx it, so you replay each step of everything you do to make sure it's just right. Whatever it can be, OCD is a very complex thing and honestly, I didn't even understand it completely until I was diagnosed and really started looking into my personal symptoms and what it can look like. But when I did get diagnosed with OCD, I finally understood why certain things felt so terrifying and why my brain would spiral into these dark places that I didn't want it to go to. I just realized how many misconceptions there were about this condition and was so relieved to find help and treatment for it. Real OCD is a serious condition where unwanted distressing thoughts called intrusive thoughts get stuck on repeat in your mind and you feel driven to engage in certain behaviors called compulsions to try to make them stop. Intrusive thoughts can look a lot of different ways. A lot of people have intrusive thoughts, but the difference with OCD is you do get stuck on them and you do these things called compulsions. It can really be life-altering, honestly. And debilitating. OCD needs ERP therapy, which is exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment for OCD. Regular talk therapy actually is not recommended and can actually make OCD worse because you're basically just ruminating on your problem. I do ERP therapy with NoCD and I cannot recommend them enough. It seriously changed my life. NoCD is the world's leading OCD treatment provider and all of their licensed therapists specialize in ERP. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with NoCD, go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team. That's nocd.com. I just love spring and we've talked a lot about how spring is a perfect time to refresh your wardrobe and refresh your home if you're looking to do just little spring reset, add some lighter layers into your home, maybe switch out the bedding, maybe add some new pillows, candles, whatever it is. One of my favorite places to go to do this is Ross. I love Ross and also have just so many good memories of Ross. Ross and I have been buds for a long time. I remember going when I was like in elementary school and junior high and like looking for the best deals, finding that perfect shirt. There's nothing quite like that feeling when you find the perfect piece and it's such a good deal. I love Ross because Ross has the brands that you love at 20 to 60% off other retailers' prices.

Speaker 4:
[48:06] They really do have such good deals and I feel like it's nice to refresh many things in the spring, whether it is your wardrobe, whether it's your home, your home decor or outdoor entertaining essentials. If you want like new little place settings, decorative pillows, they have so many great brands. And it's one of those stores that you can just go to and really be there for a while because they have so many options and find something that is perfect for you. Ross is very nostalgic to me as well. So at Ross, you don't just shop, you work your magic. Find your nearest Ross at rossstores.com. So at Ross, you don't just shop, you work your magic. Find your nearest Ross at rossstores.com. Would you rather read your partner's mind for one day or have them read yours for one day?

Speaker 3:
[48:55] I would rather have them read mine. Are you kidding me? Oh, I was gonna say opposite. Like a dream come true.

Speaker 5:
[48:59] Like, I would love that.

Speaker 3:
[49:01] Read my mind. Like exactly what I want, like you know.

Speaker 4:
[49:05] True. I would rather read Lafe's mind personally.

Speaker 3:
[49:08] Really?

Speaker 4:
[49:08] I would love to know what's going on in there. That's true.

Speaker 3:
[49:11] That's true.

Speaker 4:
[49:11] I would really love to know like just his, I want to know that so bad, especially because he is more, like obviously he's very talkative with me specifically, but it's like, the longer I know him, he doesn't verbalize. Like he'll say, he'll tell me something, even just like something he found out about or something. Like not even tea necessarily, but some piece of information that he found out like a month prior. I'm like, oh yeah, and this, and I'm like, I'm sorry. A month?

Speaker 3:
[49:40] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[49:40] A month until you remembered that? So I'm like, I want to get inside his brain and see what he is thinking about day to day. If there are things that he's not verbalizing, you know, that like, whether it's funny, whether it's whatever, like I just want to get in there and see what the vibes are.

Speaker 3:
[49:53] Yeah, that's true. I just feel like it would be like not as exciting.

Speaker 5:
[49:56] Like it would be like, okay.

Speaker 3:
[49:58] Like, I just feel like boys, they really do have different minds than us, where it's like, we're like thinking a million things in a minute and like, you know how boys can genuinely think about nothing?

Speaker 4:
[50:06] Yeah. I do know about that.

Speaker 3:
[50:07] Where it's like, I would love if someone read my mind, then I don't have to verbalize it. Like it's confusing up there. Like just you can see that you can gather and be like, okay, this is why.

Speaker 4:
[50:18] That's true actually. That would help them understand you a lot better. But here, you read, they'd be exhausted. You read my mind for a day, they'd be like, oh my, this is what you're thinking all day?

Speaker 3:
[50:25] That's a selfish answer because that would literally ruin his day probably. I agree. Just constantly, he'd probably feel like anxious, just like, oh my gosh. Like that many thoughts can occur in one day.

Speaker 4:
[50:39] Actually, I'm switching my answer because that sounds amazing to get him to experience that and know.

Speaker 3:
[50:44] If you were like, oh, I want like, I'm kind of thinking about maybe I want this for dinner. They can read that mind.

Speaker 5:
[50:49] You don't even have to verbalize it.

Speaker 3:
[50:52] And they know before you do even. It's like, oh, I know that you want this. It's like, oh, great.

Speaker 4:
[50:57] True, I would love that. That sounds fun, actually. I wish that could happen. Would you rather know exactly how your love story ends or be completely surprised?

Speaker 3:
[51:06] Oh my gosh, be completely surprised.

Speaker 4:
[51:08] Same. That sounds horrifying.

Speaker 3:
[51:10] That sounds horrifying.

Speaker 4:
[51:11] You know, like in my earlier years, It's sad. I wanted to know that so bad. Like, I'd be like, I wish I could know exactly when I'm gonna die. Like, I don't know why I thought that. Now I'm like, oh, uh-uh. I don't want to know a thing.

Speaker 3:
[51:24] What you genuinely wanted to know?

Speaker 4:
[51:26] Just like, I was so curious. It's like, well, if I could, if someone told me right now, like, I can tell you. Like, with 100% certainty. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, 15 years ago, I feel like I would have been like, yeah, I'm kind of interested. Now I'm like, uh-uh-uh.

Speaker 3:
[51:40] No. Because I would alter your choices so much. Like, if you knew you were gonna die, you know, even early or late or like whatever, like, you would start living a different way. And like, maybe that'd be a good thing, but I feel like overall, like, unless you're the healthiest mental person ever, then it's like you can just block out any fear or any like sense of time coming, like daunting.

Speaker 4:
[52:01] Ignorance is bliss in that way, I think. Because on one hand, like you're saying, it could alter your choices in a positive way where it's like, oh, I'm gonna die in 10 years. Well, then I'm gonna like live it up.

Speaker 3:
[52:11] But it's like, okay, you're gonna die, like even like on a roller coaster or something. It's like, then you would never, but you would just avoid things to the, you know, like there's actually a story about that. I don't know what it's from, but my therapist was actually telling me about it. There's this story about like this girl and she learns her son's gonna die from this certain thing. So then she like spends the entire time that he's alive, like trying to protect him from that. But then it's like, it's inevitable. So then she realizes that she like wasted her like moments, just like worrying about something that's gonna happen when it's like, you're just worrying for no reason. You could have been living in the moment.

Speaker 4:
[52:48] Right.

Speaker 3:
[52:48] You know?

Speaker 4:
[52:48] That's true. I definitely.

Speaker 3:
[52:50] Not to get like so dark and deep, but.

Speaker 4:
[52:52] No, I do agree with that. And also, like, why did we take it there when it's literally like, do you want to know how your love story ends? We're like, you die on a roller coaster.

Speaker 3:
[52:58] Well, to me, like, that is how it ends.

Speaker 4:
[53:00] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[53:01] Like, sorry, I'm not leaving unless it's death.

Speaker 4:
[53:03] Yeah. No, it's true. It's I do not want to know that at all. No, I would rather be surprised.

Speaker 3:
[53:10] I love surprises. OK, I have I have one. Would you rather never get a haircut again or never shave again and no laser?

Speaker 4:
[53:19] And no what?

Speaker 3:
[53:19] And no laser.

Speaker 4:
[53:20] I would rather never get a haircut again.

Speaker 5:
[53:22] Really? Like you have to shave. Yes.

Speaker 3:
[53:25] I like then you just always have armpit hair.

Speaker 4:
[53:28] You know, hair theory. I would just lean into being like boho, messy hair queen, like let it go. And then at least I can still feel clean. I have crash outs. Like I'll get to a certain point where I'm just like, oh, my gosh, I got to shave. I got to like do an everything shower. Like I can't imagine not being able to relieve myself of that.

Speaker 5:
[53:48] Shaving really just does feel so, feels so good.

Speaker 4:
[53:53] It feels so good to just shave everything, put lotion on.

Speaker 3:
[53:57] Like Nick hates when he can't shave. Like if we're going to an event or something, he has to shave and sometimes like, no, it looks good. Like keep the scrub.

Speaker 4:
[54:05] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[54:05] And he's like, no, it's like a mental thing. Like I have to shave. And I'm like, no, I get that. Like if you had hair on your face and it was just like, I have to get this off. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[54:13] I know I can't imagine on the face. That would be so overstimulating.

Speaker 5:
[54:16] And Nick's facial hair grows so fast.

Speaker 4:
[54:20] That really would be so annoying. Yeah. I do not think I could do without that for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3:
[54:25] I was kind of leaning towards like never shave again and just embracing my hair.

Speaker 5:
[54:31] I just, I think a long and never.

Speaker 3:
[54:34] I need to get haircuts.

Speaker 1:
[54:35] Like I need to trim at least.

Speaker 4:
[54:37] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[54:38] Even if it was long, like it just doesn't get long. It would just be so unhealthy and just stringy. And so I think I would never shave again. And I would just have to like. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[54:48] You'll have the shortest hair.

Speaker 3:
[54:49] The pits out. The pits like really I think would be the thing that would drive me crazy.

Speaker 4:
[54:53] That would over stimulate me so much. No, I can't. That makes me feel like, oh, even thinking about it. Would you rather have front row tickets to any concert but go alone? Let's think about.

Speaker 3:
[55:03] That one.

Speaker 4:
[55:04] Or nosebleeds with all your friends.

Speaker 3:
[55:06] I think front row by myself. Like I can hang out with my friends and do other things. But like being front row at a concert, indescribable.

Speaker 4:
[55:14] True, but I think I would pick nosebleeds with my friends because I feel like specifically a concert actually.

Speaker 3:
[55:21] Can you never see your friends outside of that? Is that part of the question?

Speaker 4:
[55:24] That's not part of it. It's just saying to any concert, you can have front row tickets. So it's like, okay, Justin Bieber goes on tour. Maybe that's not, you know, your number one.

Speaker 3:
[55:32] Oh, any concert.

Speaker 4:
[55:33] Yes, any concert. You can pick front row tickets.

Speaker 5:
[55:36] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[55:36] You can do that or you can go to that same concert in the nosebleeds with your friends.

Speaker 5:
[55:40] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[55:41] Like, are you picking front row, Justin Bieber, Coachella, or are you just like back in there? That's not a good example because they don't have nosebleeds. I would rather be in the nosebleeds with my friends because I think a concert.

Speaker 1:
[55:52] Like, are my friends there regardless?

Speaker 3:
[55:54] Like, are they in the nosebleeds? We can just be texting, but I'd rather be in the front row.

Speaker 1:
[55:58] Like, being front row at a concert.

Speaker 4:
[55:59] I don't think they're there. I don't think they're there.

Speaker 3:
[56:01] So they can't experience.

Speaker 4:
[56:02] No, that's the point.

Speaker 3:
[56:03] So I'm like not including them.

Speaker 4:
[56:04] You're having a solo experience or you're having experience with your friends, but it's like, you know.

Speaker 3:
[56:08] Oh, shoot. I think I would still rather be front row. I just feel like having that experience, especially if it's an amazing concert.

Speaker 1:
[56:14] Me and Abby were just talking about BTS.

Speaker 3:
[56:16] When we went to the BTS concert and now they're going on tour again. And we were talking about like, it's either though, like front row or the nosebleeds. Because like being in the front and being able to see, when we went, we were pretty far back.

Speaker 1:
[56:30] And we were talking about how amazing.

Speaker 3:
[56:33] It was still amazing. Like how incredible of an experience to see them dancing and stuff. Close up and just like what an amazing experience that would have been. And so I think like I would pick that.

Speaker 1:
[56:45] I don't know who would be, I think it might be BTS.

Speaker 3:
[56:48] Like to see their incredible singers, incredible performers, like literally the best concert I've ever been to. I think I would rather see that by myself just like as a spiritual experience.

Speaker 4:
[56:59] That makes sense. I do think it would depend on who I guess was performing and I would have to lock into that. But I even like Lana or something, I think that could be like a spiritual experience alone. But I feel like a concert is one of the things that just feels so much better with other people. I feel like I could go on a solo trip, I could do solo, like so many things solo that I would really enjoy. A concert, I'm like, I want to like talk to people about it. And like they're playing the song and like look at other people. I guess you could connect with like other people in the crowd and kind of have those moments, but like.

Speaker 3:
[57:31] Yeah, it'd be good for you. Yeah, not you.

Speaker 4:
[57:33] Please prescribe it to me. I think you should.

Speaker 3:
[57:35] I think you need that. No, no, no, I'm just saying in general. Yeah, that's hard because in my mind, I could just go to that. Like I could do that experience anytime. Like get nosebleeds and you know.

Speaker 1:
[57:44] Right.

Speaker 4:
[57:45] And we should, you know what? We should go to more concerts. Because every time I go to a concert, I feel like my life changed.

Speaker 3:
[57:50] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[57:50] Oh, I would.

Speaker 3:
[57:52] Taylor Swift, I think.

Speaker 4:
[57:53] We had pretty good tickets.

Speaker 3:
[57:54] We had amazing seats. And that was really indescribable.

Speaker 4:
[57:58] It was.

Speaker 3:
[58:00] I just love concerts.

Speaker 4:
[58:02] Concerts are, the Beyonce concert was insane.

Speaker 3:
[58:04] Well, I just saw Tyson went to Coachella by himself.

Speaker 4:
[58:07] Did he go alone? He couldn't have. He had like the coolest photos. I need to text him, but.

Speaker 3:
[58:11] He said, I think he just said that on his story, but maybe, yeah, you read it wrong.

Speaker 5:
[58:15] But it looked so fun.

Speaker 3:
[58:16] And like he, I think he was saying like he, he went to the first one with his friends, but then, I think he just went to this one by himself.

Speaker 4:
[58:23] Oh, who was taking those photos?

Speaker 3:
[58:25] I don't know. But you never know, Tyson. He probably found something to prop it up on.

Speaker 4:
[58:32] True. Yeah, maybe he did actually. Because there was one angle that I was like, oh, you must be there with someone. Need to call him for an update. Okay, this one really begs the question, doesn't it? Would you rather be best friends with your favorite celebrity, but never be able to post about it, or be mutuals online, but never meet them?

Speaker 3:
[58:53] Mutuals online, but never meet them.

Speaker 4:
[58:55] So, it's like people can tell.

Speaker 3:
[58:57] So, people know your friends and celebrities? People know.

Speaker 4:
[58:59] It's like, oh, they're mutuals.

Speaker 3:
[59:00] Oh, I would rather be best friends and the internet not know.

Speaker 1:
[59:03] Like the tea, the good times.

Speaker 4:
[59:05] The perks you would get regardless also.

Speaker 3:
[59:07] Privacy and a friendship.

Speaker 4:
[59:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:09] Say less.

Speaker 4:
[59:10] Seriously, I was thinking about that because it's like, I guess, the optics of it.

Speaker 3:
[59:15] Like, okay, Hailey Bieber doesn't follow you anymore, but you guys are best friends when no one knows.

Speaker 4:
[59:19] No, I would eat that up because it's like, like you said, you're getting... Okay. Also, on another note, like if that was not, if the optics part of it wasn't a thing, you could actually have so much deeper of a friendship probably with them and they would feel so safe. The celebrity would feel so much safer knowing like, this is not, you're not my friend because of what I can do for you, because no one knows about it. So you feel like your friendship would actually be so much stronger and deeper, and you would probably still get insane perks, like be able to go to, yeah, just whatever. Yeah. Go to concerts, like, you know, it's a two-way street. Hopefully, you're offering them something as well.

Speaker 3:
[60:01] Not much financially.

Speaker 4:
[60:02] Not much financially, but you know, like I said, friendship-wise, but it's like no one has to necessarily know about that. You're still living a great, you're having a great time.

Speaker 3:
[60:11] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[60:12] Going to Coachella, you know.

Speaker 3:
[60:14] I would love that.

Speaker 4:
[60:16] That actually sounds amazing.

Speaker 3:
[60:17] Yeah. Sounds fun.

Speaker 4:
[60:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[60:19] And who knows, maybe we already have that.

Speaker 4:
[60:22] I'm like, and I've, this was a staged question.

Speaker 3:
[60:26] Yeah. Okay. Would you rather never read a book again or never watch a movie again?

Speaker 4:
[60:31] I'm going to have, I'm going to have to say never watch a movie, which is actually kind of crazy.

Speaker 3:
[60:36] That is crazy.

Speaker 4:
[60:37] But I think the reason is because longevity wise, like you can read for a very long time. Like my grandma reads, you know, it's like, I feel like, oh, I guess when your eyesight goes, you can't read either. So I was going to say like, your eyesight will get bad and that's like, you can't really enjoy a movie or like you're hearing. And it's like, whatever. I feel like reading lasts longer. That's true. Like you can read for a longer period of your time versus enjoy a movie.

Speaker 3:
[61:03] That's true. That's very true.

Speaker 4:
[61:04] That's why I'm going to go with that. Yeah, that's, that's good to think about.

Speaker 3:
[61:07] Because at first I was thinking like, okay, I would never read a book again because even if they made a good book, I could watch the movie. And it's like the movie you get such a visual like audio experience. All of your senses are, you know, being enlightened. But I think with now that you've convinced me otherwise, though, like longevity wise, it's like, okay, you can't watch a movie. Like you would have to watch so many movies on a flight versus like you could just read one book on the flight.

Speaker 4:
[61:33] Yeah, because I'm also just thinking, I guess I'm picturing my grandparents and I'm like, I'm not seeing them sit down and watch a movie. They read books. You know?

Speaker 3:
[61:42] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[61:43] Like that's what I'm picturing when I go to their house. It's like my grandma like has something out. It's like, oh, hi. Like she's so it just feels like, but I guess it's like maybe she could watch a movie and still enjoy it.

Speaker 3:
[61:56] Have you ever watched a movie?

Speaker 4:
[61:57] Hey, have you watched a movie in the last 10 years?

Speaker 3:
[61:59] You know these new things they've invented called movies?

Speaker 4:
[62:01] No, we know I'm very into movies. I'm a, what's it called?

Speaker 3:
[62:06] Cinephile.

Speaker 4:
[62:06] Yeah, that's me. This year, no, I'm like very inspired by movies lately, truly. So that was a tough one, but I'm going to go with book.

Speaker 3:
[62:15] Yeah. Speaking of, did we talk about seeing Project Hail Mary?

Speaker 4:
[62:19] I don't think we talked about it.

Speaker 3:
[62:20] Also, people have been telling me to read this book. I think it's called Atmosphere.

Speaker 4:
[62:24] Oh yeah, I've heard good things.

Speaker 3:
[62:26] Like nonstop, every time I post about space, like you have to read this book. And then like, have you heard of the movie Project Hail Mary? I'm like, how could I not? It's like the most marketed movie ever. But we went in, saw it, and it was so, so good.

Speaker 4:
[62:40] It was really good. They did lose me for a second.

Speaker 3:
[62:42] I had to drift it off into space.

Speaker 4:
[62:45] I drifted off into dreamland for a second. It was super long.

Speaker 3:
[62:48] It was really long.

Speaker 4:
[62:49] It was really good. I was incredibly tired when we went, which was like, I already knew I was in for a, you know, I was like, this is going to be hard for me to stay awake. Cause it's like a three hour movie.

Speaker 3:
[62:58] Yeah, it's really long. But it was so good. I felt like I was like binging a show.

Speaker 4:
[63:01] Yeah, I didn't feel like I missed a lot though.

Speaker 3:
[63:04] No, it's kind of a slow moving.

Speaker 4:
[63:06] Yeah, cause I kind of fell asleep in the beginning and then I caught all the important stuff, but it was great, made me cry.

Speaker 3:
[63:12] Made me sob.

Speaker 4:
[63:14] So sweet.

Speaker 3:
[63:14] Let me see if I have any other good ones to really end on. Okay, would you rather wake up naked in a forest five miles from home or wake up in your underwear at work?

Speaker 4:
[63:24] In my underwear at work.

Speaker 3:
[63:25] Yeah, I guess it's like this is your work.

Speaker 4:
[63:26] It's like just right here in my underwear.

Speaker 3:
[63:30] Like you show, like Dear Media Studios, you wake up, you're in Dear Media Studios in your underwear.

Speaker 4:
[63:34] That wouldn't be the first time. I remember when I bled through my pants and I just literally changed into a little podcast studio. True. A hundred percent. You know what? That's what I love about our society. We're so accepting now. And no one would even bat an eye. No one would even care.

Speaker 3:
[63:49] Waking up naked is like so scary.

Speaker 4:
[63:52] Naked in the forest?

Speaker 3:
[63:53] In the forest, that's terrifying.

Speaker 4:
[63:55] A true crime documentary.

Speaker 3:
[63:56] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[63:57] Nothing about that is okay. Okay. Would you rather fly private everywhere, but only with people you didn't choose, or fly commercial first class, but always with your favorite people?

Speaker 3:
[64:08] Okay. First class?

Speaker 1:
[64:10] First class.

Speaker 5:
[64:11] One hundred percent.

Speaker 3:
[64:12] Private, like terrible for the environment, first of all.

Speaker 4:
[64:16] Not me about to choose that one.

Speaker 1:
[64:18] Like very selfish choice. Very privileged choice. First class? Like, how can you complain about first class?

Speaker 4:
[64:28] We're not complaining. We're just saying, which one would you rather? I would rather fly on a, I would rather fly private. Are you kidding? If I could just-

Speaker 3:
[64:34] Both know and you know? Like you can never go anywhere. Then you just have to wait for us.

Speaker 4:
[64:37] Something about me on a plane, I don't want to chat. I'm not, oh, with all my favorite people sounds not fun. I don't want to be on a plane with, that's not why I, my plane experience, put on the, I mean, let's say I have Benny, of course. I was going to say Benny and Leif on the, you're flying private. Please. Then I'm just on the commercial, you're like, like, bye, mommy's busy. No, but I'm just saying like a flight experience, for instance, when we flew to Japan, this is how I felt. I'm like, I just want to put on my headphones. I want to, granted, this is without a child. So this was my experience when we were flying to Japan. I'm like, I, me and Leif barely talked to the whole flight, like, you know, tiny little things here and there, but it's like, at the end of the day, like, so on the way back, actually, our flight got super delayed and we had to switch flights, and then because of that, we were not seated together. On the way home, they were like, oh, you can take this flight, and it's like right to LA, but you wouldn't be seated together, or you could like wait five hours and take this one, and we were like, no, we're getting home, like we don't care. And that's an example of it's like, I don't care because a flight is, to me, I'm like, I want to go inward. Let me put on the headphones. Let me, I have like a book I've downloaded. I have a show I want to binge. I have a movie I want to watch. I have snacks prepared. Like, so to me, flying private, great. I don't know anyone, great.

Speaker 3:
[65:58] I guess I'm thinking like you're just traveling alone then all the time. Like you're not like, like, like you're thinking like you're flying private, but everyone else is like, but are you just going on trips alone? I was kind of thinking like, oh, every trip I get to go on, I usually am going with people and we all get first class, or I'm no longer traveling with people.

Speaker 1:
[66:16] And I can go anywhere I want.

Speaker 3:
[66:18] Like I think if you ask any celebrity who flies alone, private all the time, they would probably pick the other answer. They'd be like, you know what, private's great, but not if you can't share with those you love. That's true.

Speaker 4:
[66:29] I was kind of picturing cause they're just talking about the flight. They never said you're not traveling.

Speaker 1:
[66:33] You're leaving me behind.

Speaker 3:
[66:34] That's what you're saying.

Speaker 4:
[66:36] So you'll be in first class. I'll be flying private. I've never flown private. Yeah, I'm just kidding. I would actually, wait, no. I was thinking, have I? No. Like JSX, Sephora, it's like kind of a, it's like semi-private.

Speaker 3:
[66:54] Like a jet?

Speaker 4:
[66:55] Yeah, cause it's like a smaller plane. But that also was like on behalf of a brand. It wasn't like a private plane that I chartered or something. I think that is, that's actually crazy to me when people have that type of money. Like when influencers are flying private, I'm like, literally, that's gotta be like $100,000 or something. Like it, I cannot believe that. Okay, last one. Oh, I have two more. Wait, I have some good ones.

Speaker 3:
[67:20] We can do like rapid fire.

Speaker 4:
[67:21] Okay, rapid fire. Would you rather have a personal chef who cooks perfectly for you every day?

Speaker 3:
[67:26] That one.

Speaker 4:
[67:26] Or be able to eat anything you want with zero consequences, your health, your skin, etc?

Speaker 3:
[67:31] The first one.

Speaker 4:
[67:32] I'm the second one.

Speaker 3:
[67:33] I would rather have someone cooking for me all the time and like make amazing foods for me. Because then it doesn't matter, like they can make me healthy stuff.

Speaker 5:
[67:40] They can make me all the restrictions I could possibly want.

Speaker 4:
[67:43] Right, but then if you can eat anything you want with zero consequences, then you don't even care about-

Speaker 3:
[67:47] That would lose its novelty so fast. Don't you think?

Speaker 1:
[67:51] Like if you could just eat anything, you'd just be like, I'm sick of this.

Speaker 4:
[67:54] Well, because you don't, okay, what I took it as is like you don't feel sick or anything. So like anything you want or are craving at any moment, it's not like unhealthy, like it loses the like health aspect of it. Cause it's not like, oh, this is gonna make me feel sick or something. It's like literally just eat whatever I want whenever I want, I want like anything.

Speaker 5:
[68:12] But isn't that kind of the fun of eating like bad things? Sometimes it's like the risk of it.

Speaker 3:
[68:17] It's like sometimes when it's just available and there's no consequences, it's like.

Speaker 4:
[68:20] Maybe, maybe it would lose its flavor, but I'm gonna pick that one for now because it just sounds amazing to be able to just eat anything. Honestly, I'm mostly thinking of the way that I feel. Like I'll eat, you know, eat Taco Bell or something. And it's like, oh, this is so good. And then the second it's over, I'm like, my stomach hurts so bad.

Speaker 3:
[68:38] You know, maybe for convenience, that would be nice. Then you could just like, if it didn't matter that you had to get certain nutrients in a day, you could just like eat the same thing and be very easy.

Speaker 4:
[68:46] You could literally eat candy and just be like, well, it doesn't matter. Nothing about, it's not nutrition either way. It's just like anything I want.

Speaker 5:
[68:53] But you still have to cook.

Speaker 4:
[68:55] Not necessarily.

Speaker 3:
[68:56] That's true.

Speaker 4:
[68:57] You just eat chips all day.

Speaker 3:
[68:58] I think I still would go with the first one because that just sounds like so amazing.

Speaker 5:
[69:02] I was thinking about how amazing that would be.

Speaker 3:
[69:04] I've been watching some like private chefs. They'll be like, what I'm making my clients tonight.

Speaker 4:
[69:09] Oh, it does sound incredible.

Speaker 3:
[69:10] Like this girl was making, I think for the Kardashians, she was making Cheez-Its, like homemade Cheez-Its. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4:
[69:18] That does sound incredible.

Speaker 3:
[69:19] She's like, hey, can you make me some Cheez-Its? Some homemade gluten-free Cheez-Its.

Speaker 4:
[69:24] It's actually crazy that some people have a private chef.

Speaker 3:
[69:26] Like, hey, can you make me the perfect matcha latte?

Speaker 4:
[69:29] No, that's true because that sounds so amazing. Like anything you want for breakfast, it's like, hey, can you make me this type of bowl?

Speaker 1:
[69:36] Tomorrow, I would love this.

Speaker 3:
[69:38] And then can you make me a latte with this in it?

Speaker 1:
[69:40] Like, oh my gosh, desserts?

Speaker 4:
[69:41] I wonder if that was its novelty for celebrities and people who are really rich. I wonder if they're kind of like, over time, they're like, honestly, get out of my house. I'd rather do my own thing.

Speaker 3:
[69:48] Personally.

Speaker 4:
[69:49] We need to become best friends with a celebrity, dot not post about it.

Speaker 1:
[69:52] Don't worry.

Speaker 3:
[69:53] I was saying I would love to find that. Like, I would love to become that rich that I could have that and then I could give you guys.

Speaker 1:
[69:59] The tea.

Speaker 3:
[69:59] Yeah, the tea on it, if it's worth it or not.

Speaker 4:
[70:01] Would you rather have a permanent vacation home in one place, you know? Yeah, wherever you want. Or be able to stay in any luxury hotel in the world whenever you want, but never return to the same place twice.

Speaker 3:
[70:13] Oh, that's kind of sad, but I think I would go to the second one. Even though it would be really sad if you loved somewhere and you're like, I would love to come back here. But it would be so fun. Like any luxury hotel, that's like the dream. That's true. You just get to go and stay at any luxury hotel. I love a nice hotel. Like they're really, like in this world, love an Airbnb, you know, that's great and all. But a really nice hotel, like, just the service of it can't be beat.

Speaker 4:
[70:42] I agree, but I'm actually going to go with the first one. I would love to have a permanent vacation home.

Speaker 3:
[70:47] But does that mean you can't go anywhere else?

Speaker 4:
[70:49] That wasn't part of it.

Speaker 3:
[70:51] Well, then what's the point?

Speaker 4:
[70:52] Well, because now I can't go to any luxury hotel in the world that I want for free.

Speaker 2:
[70:57] Oh, for free.

Speaker 4:
[70:57] Well, I just made that part up. But that's what I'm assuming it is.

Speaker 2:
[71:01] Because I was putting our own rules on these, like to satisfy our own needs.

Speaker 4:
[71:05] What else would be the draw of that? It's like you can stay in any luxury hotel in the world. But I guess, but you can't go twice is the catch.

Speaker 3:
[71:13] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[71:13] But I was thinking, I have to spend thousands of dollars.

Speaker 3:
[71:15] There's an unspoken rule where it's like, you can only go one place on vacation, but you get to go to that place every single time. Like that's the only place you get to go to vacation.

Speaker 5:
[71:23] That's what I was picturing.

Speaker 3:
[71:24] Or you can go anywhere on vacation, but you can never go back to the same place.

Speaker 4:
[71:28] If that was the case, I'd pick the second one.

Speaker 3:
[71:30] Because that's kind of what I was thinking.

Speaker 4:
[71:31] I was thinking like, I still could go to hotels if I want, but I have to pay for it and I can return to it twice, you know, do whatever. And then I have a permanent vacation home somewhere specific.

Speaker 3:
[71:43] True.

Speaker 4:
[71:43] Me trying to like hack the question every time and like get both.

Speaker 3:
[71:45] I want both.

Speaker 4:
[71:46] I'm like, I'll do both. I like both those things. Okay, would you rather have, this is the last one, would you rather have your child wake up at 5 a.m. every day forever or fight bedtime for two hours every night? I'm gonna say something crazy. I would rather the 5 a.m. wake up time. I will find a way to romanticize it. I know just a few days ago, I declared I am no longer a morning person. I will not be trying anymore. However, fighting bedtime for two hours every night would send me to my grave.

Speaker 3:
[72:14] Yeah, that sounds horrible. But it's like, couldn't you just give up? Just be like, well, they're gonna go to bed later. Like, why do you have to be fighting? Why can't you just be like, okay, I know that they're gonna, or you just don't know.

Speaker 4:
[72:24] Well, what if it's like 8 p.m. and they're supposed to go to bed and just like every night, it's not till 10?

Speaker 3:
[72:29] Or like, so then you would just like be like, okay, whatever, they're going down at 10. Cause I know they're never gonna, like, do you know that they're never gonna stop?

Speaker 4:
[72:36] Right, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[72:37] Do you know they're always gonna fight it?

Speaker 4:
[72:38] But also at that point, so it's like, okay, then in that case.

Speaker 3:
[72:41] And do you know that they're always gonna get up at 5 a.m.? Like, do you know that?

Speaker 4:
[72:44] I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[72:45] Because that's daunting.

Speaker 5:
[72:46] Like day by day, you could do that.

Speaker 4:
[72:48] Like, ooh, that was a bit early. Yeah, if it's just like your reality, it's like, well, whatever. But I'm just picturing, like, Benny going to bed at like 10 p.m. every night.

Speaker 5:
[72:56] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[72:56] And I'm like, that sounds like hell.

Speaker 3:
[72:59] Yeah, yeah. I think I would choose the 5 a.m. as well. 5 a.m. wake up every morning. I mean, some people don't even choose that. They just, their kids wake up super early. I know a lot of people who looks like their kids just wake up like 5.30 and they're like, well, here we are.

Speaker 4:
[73:12] It's true. You really can't control, like, this could be a reality at any time. But truly, both fighting bedtime and waking up early. Amazing. It really is crazy.

Speaker 3:
[73:23] Sometimes you don't even have to choose.

Speaker 4:
[73:24] That you can't even control, like, you can't control that. Your child's, I mean, to some degree, kind of like their schedule, but also like their natural inclinations.

Speaker 3:
[73:35] As soon as they get older.

Speaker 4:
[73:36] I guess it is like, is it the schedule or is it their natural inclination? I guess you could argue. But, because I do have friends whose kids wake up super early and it's like, is that because of the schedule that they're on, kind of? Or is it just like, that's just how they've always been and there's no rhyme or reason, you know?

Speaker 3:
[73:52] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[73:53] Wow, this episode gave me anxiety.

Speaker 3:
[73:56] Honestly, it did. Like making choices like that, knowing the long-term effects, it's daunting. It kind of feels like being a mom, you know?

Speaker 4:
[74:04] In what way?

Speaker 3:
[74:05] Just always having to make decisions that just, you're always like, okay, this could be like a big deal or no.

Speaker 1:
[74:12] Like, or is it just a little thing?

Speaker 3:
[74:13] Where do I send them to school? Where do I do? Like, every little thing, where do we feed them? Like, when do they go to bed? Like, just every little decision, you have to be like, well. It's true.

Speaker 4:
[74:21] There are actually endless decisions, apparently.

Speaker 3:
[74:23] Endless decisions.

Speaker 4:
[74:23] Truly endless.

Speaker 3:
[74:24] That you, when you make decisions for yourself, you can kind of be like, okay, that's just my choice. Yeah, and what I'll deal with the consequences. The responsibility of others and being like, I'm making choices for them when they're little.

Speaker 4:
[74:36] On behalf of them.

Speaker 3:
[74:36] Yes, and I sincerely hope I'm making them. I mean, that's just probably me having OCD, which is like literally the main thing of OCD, is like you're constantly doubting yourself. But it is daunting.

Speaker 4:
[74:45] Yeah, no, it is. Their life is in your hands. It's a lot. Well, thanks for listening, guys. I hope you gained some really interesting insights from this episode.

Speaker 3:
[74:53] Hope that this was so enlightening.

Speaker 4:
[74:55] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[74:56] Tell us what you would rather do. Fly private or go to a concert by yourself.

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Speaker 6:
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