title Episode 408: Is Having Kids Overrated?

description A special edition of Calm Down with Erin Andrews and Charissa Thompson is here with Charissa taking this on this episode solo! She conquers your best questions including:
Do you plan on rescuing more animals? What has been the biggest change in the sports media landscape? How did you tell your parents you didn’t want kids? Charissa also shares stories from her time at The Masters, why she loves “Housewife Night” and so much more!
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pubDate Thu, 23 Apr 2026 07:00:00 GMT

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[00:00] I did say to my mom one time, I go, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna have any kids. And she goes, yeah, kids are overrated. I wouldn't do it. Calm Down With Erin and Charissa is a production of IHeartRadio. All right, you guys, before I get started on my solo mission here today on the Calm Down Podcast, I want to remind you that Erin and I will be reunited. It will actually be the first time I've seen her in some time, and I'm so excited. We will have just celebrated a birthday on May 4th, but that's not the date we need you guys to remember. We need you to remember May 6th. Mark it on your calendar. We are so excited to be back. Netflix has asked us back to be a part of The Netflix Is A Joke Fest at The Hollywood Improv. May 6th, 7.30, Hollywood Improv. Get your tickets. All you have to do is go to netflixisajokefest.com and search my name, Charissa Thompson or Erin Andrews. Tickets will pop up there. Or we're also gonna have a link in the episode description on our Instagram. Please, please, please buy tickets because if you don't, it'll be very sad and we'll be so embarrassed sitting there by ourselves like I'm doing right now. Hello, everybody, welcome to the Calm Down Podcast. Our girl Erin is on a special assignment. She is a busy gal. She unfortunately cannot join us this week. So you know what? I gave Steve the week off. I said, Steve, you can sit this one out. And I'm writing solo because I've never been accused of being short on words or thoughts. In fact, there's times where I'll be having a conversation with myself in the other room and Steve's like, what, what? I'm like, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to myself. I don't know though. I don't know if you guys are like that. I can fully have a conversation and multiple days by myself. Like I would be great as Tom Hanks on a deserted island with Wilson because I can just figure it out. I can fit, A, I, okay. We're gonna go through a couple of things in this solo podcast because if you guys know me, you also know my train of thought is like this. Squirrel, I'm gonna be all over the place. So sit down with a cup of coffee, a cocktail, or if you listen to this podcast while you're walking around the neighborhood or whatever it is, however you consume this podcast, YouTube. If you're consuming it on YouTube, then you can see I have full makeup on because I was just on a Zoom call prior to recording this podcast where I needed to pretend that I was somewhat put together. I have been watching one too many Get Ready With Me tutorials where I try out all in the Sephora sale, way too many products and I just keep layering them on. Then I came on here and I was like, wow, this is a look. Anyways, I'm at the ranch, so I threw on a ranch hat because that's basically I live in hats anyways. But how about this, no crying at the ranch. That also is true. There is no crying here. Anyways, I'm solo this week. We are going to go through a bunch of viewer questions which make me so happy. Even when Erin and I go through them, it just ignites conversations that we wouldn't have even thought of or different things that you guys have thought to ask us. So I love reading your questions until I get to that in a second. But just a quick set up on this podcast, since it is the first time that I'm doing it solo, I am excited to be rambling for the next 35 minutes and hopefully entertain you guys in the process and or give you some things to think about based off of what it is that you guys have asked me. So let's jump right into it. First up, we've got Colette Kell, 58. Do you plan on rescuing more animals? Well, I do. In fact, I just met for the first time since I haven't been at the ranch in a couple of weeks. The last time I was here, I was hosting my family, which was so much fun. I love the ranch. It's my favorite place in the world. But I also love it when my favorite people in the world are here and getting to spend time with them at this place. It has become a tradition for the last couple of years. We have had a mini family reunion here and it's really special, and it makes me just so happy. My mom and my dad actually were here for a couple of weeks, which at this age to really get time with your parents at any age really, but especially for me not living at home. I haven't lived close to my parents since I moved out when I graduated high school when I was 18. So I don't have the luxury, by my own choice, it's my choice to live in a different state. But I know a lot of you maybe be able to like go drive over to your parents' house and have dinner or whatever, or maybe you've lost a parent and you don't have the opportunity to spend time with them. I never ever, ever take for granted spending time with my family and especially my mom and dad, just because my siblings have the luxury of being around them all the time. So love them. I digress, per usual, but Colette, to your point, am I going to rescue more animals? Yes, I am. And I just rescued two mules, which for anyone that doesn't know, and this is not me trying to be condescending because let's be honest, I may or may not have remembered this, that a mule is when a donkey and a horse mate and they create a mule, which fun fact, I didn't know this part until my sister pointed this out. Mules cannot procreate. So like my two mules up there, if it's two boys, but let's say it's a boy and a girl, they can't make another mule. It's one and done. Horse, donkey, mule, and that's it. So there you go. But yeah, I just rescued two mules, and mules I have come to find out are great protectors. They will mess up a mountain lion or any other kind of predator. They're great protectors. And these two mules were recently retired from the, they were pack mules in the Sequoia National Forest, which is incredible. And then some of they had a few health issues and they had some things going on, so they weren't desirable anymore. So like a lot of the animals here at Ruby Ranch, I like to have it be a safe haven for them, whether they're retired from working or whether there have been various properties that have been sold and then the animals are displaced and have nowhere to go. So I am now the prideful owner of two new mules and I'm very excited. Okay, so this is another question that I had, and I actually asked this on my Instagram story the other day. So their names right now are Caesar and Woody. Those don't hold any meaning for me, but I like to rename my rescue animals. Like Oz, that was not Oz's name. When I adopted Daisy, that wasn't her name. Her name was Ida. And I just, I don't know, I have this thing. I didn't rename Lolly, which I don't know why. Probably because it still worked with my Wizard of Oz theme of the Lollipop Kids. I don't know. But I have this thing about renaming them where I'm like, I'm giving them a new home, I'm giving them a fresh start, and I want to make them feel like they have a new beginning. Now, the other side of that argument, which I vacillate with because I'm like, is this stealing their identity by renaming them, is it's the only thing that they've known, so should I just be consistent with the name? I don't know, a lot of people said that it wasn't bad that I renamed them, but curious, what do you guys think? I don't know, it's like I'm giving them a home. I'm hooking these animals up here, the least they can do is let me rename them, you know what I mean? Like Norman, that's not his name, his name was Herman. I was like, I don't like that name, Herman. No offense to all you Hermans out there because I know there's a lot of you. So yes, Colette, I'm always looking to rescue more animals. If I had it my way, I would rescue every single animal. I have to also be mindful though of the dynamic, especially with dogs, is that the pack is a very specific thing, that there can't be too many alphas. There has to be this symbiotic relationship with they all have their place, they all work in harmony together. So I would always love to rescue more animals, but I'm just mindful of if I had 100 cats around here, maybe that's not good for the dogs because the dogs chase the cats. Anyway, so that's just an example, but just trying to be mindful of how it makes the whole Ruby Ranch world work. So I am specific about what I rescue, but I will continue to rescue as many animals as I can, like my new goats, I got my goats out there. These goats, by the way, holy shit. If you want an area cleared out, just throw some goats back there. Half my hillside is gone, it's crazy. I actually had to switch Lolly's area and the goats area because the goats will obliterate the hillside in the best way possible. They're like great lawn mowers, these things. Yes, Kurt, my sweet producer just said human lawn mowers. They really are. If you got an area you don't want to weed-whack, get yourself some goats or you can borrow mine. I'll rent them out, actually free of charge. Next question, we've got Sydney Gabriellam. Sydney Gabriellam. Wow, that's pretty. Why don't we see Oz out of his pen? Can you ride him? He's so beautiful. Well, first of all, thank you so much. And Oz does come out of his pasture. So it's not a pen, Oz is hooked up. Oz has an entire hillside and whole pasture area. And he does come out. He comes out a lot, actually. Oz though, Oz has become a real diva. When I got Oz, I was like, okay, cause there's all these trails around here. I can trail ride him and Oz is broken. He's like broken mentally and physically. No, he's not, he's not emotionally broken either. He is living the best life. Broken as in like, he's not, I'm not going to get the vernacular right, but like he doesn't, you know when you see like these Yellowstone shows and like, oh, we need to break in this horse because it's wild. Now, Oz is definitely not wild, but I wanted to trail ride him. Oz has decided that he doesn't really want to do that. So Sage and Dusty, Tony's horses, are my trail horses that I get to ride around and take to the saloon, and they're super docile and they're chill. Oz is more of a like, I'm going to be the show horse, and I'm just pretty to look at. But when I do take him out, he just takes a little bit more corralling. But yeah, he goes out all the time. And then he also has a round pen. Admittingly, Tony rides Oz more than I do because she's better with horses than I am. I didn't ride horses my whole life. It's not something I don't want to say. I'm very comfortable now riding horses, but I wouldn't ride Oz over riding, let's say Sage or Dusty or whatever. But I'm very comfortable taking Oz into the round pen and working him out in there or riding him on there. She's just one of those things that like if Oz, let's say saw a squirrel, he might take off and then I wouldn't probably be able to handle him. Oz is a big boy as much as Paws, as much as I probably would feel comfortable with. But the other horses, Tony's horses are super chill and I feel very comfortable on them at all times. Anyways, the moral of the story is, yes, Oz leaves his pasture, goes to the round pen, goes on trails, but really prefers to just live in his comfortable spot. Also, people ask me all the time, why don't you get Oz a friend? We've tried putting Sage and Dusty in with Oz or Swag or Billy, that little cute little mini horse. Now, Oz is like, I want all the food, I want all the treats, who are these people? So Oz is doing just fine. Next, we've got Ethan and 62198. What has been the biggest change in the sports media landscape since you started? Great question. The biggest change, I think just the platforms, the amount of sports media that you can consume, or if you're new to the business that you could apply for different jobs. I mean, when I started, there was just the broadcast networks and some regional television. There weren't as many opportunities, of course, online. There wasn't the podcast space. So I think that is definitely the biggest thing that's changed in terms of a sports media landscape. It's just the amount of sports media that's out there. Whereas, I mean, yes, it's out there. And then also too, you see a lot more, right? Because of social media. But I think that, and people ask me this, that are just starting out, like, how do I get started? I'm like, girl, guy, whoever. Like, you can start in a myriad of different places. Whereas, I feel like when I started almost 20 years ago, there was very specific outlets. Like, I need to try to get a job at ABC or NBC or Fox or Fox Sports Regional, where I started in Denver on air. So there's just a lot more opportunity out there, which also can be overwhelming as well, right? Because sometimes when you have so many items on a menu, you're like, I don't know what I want, or I don't know where to start, as opposed to if you just go, using the analogy, to a place that has five items, the in and outs of the world, the very specific items on the menu makes it easier to decide or to really put your efforts into one thing. So I think it's a positive, though, in the big scheme of things, to have multiple outlets. And also radio, that was one thing in retrospect, as I sit here and talk, like I'm on a radio solo radio show doing this podcast alone this week, because radio is something that I wish I would have done when I first started. I think that that's a really great way to learn just how to speak. I mean, let's just start with that, to learn how to speak, but to be comfortable doing even something like this that I'm doing today, where it's just talking about something. I have the utmost respect whenever, like Ryan Rosillo, who does a lot of things solo, Colin Coward, guys like that, that just, I know Jason's on the show. My point is that a lot of guys and women too can have a solo show. I think that's hard. I can do a one-off like this, but just to actually have a career where it's just you talking, you better be very sure about what it is you're talking about, because it's always easier, I think, to bounce things off other people. All right. We've got MB McDaniel 27. What was your favorite part of The Masters? Yes, since I've seen you guys, I had a very busy two weeks, actually. I went to The Masters. I had the great opportunity to go to The Masters. Shout out to Amazon, whoop, whoop. I don't know why the whoop, whoop. I haven't done that in a minute, but it's fine. I felt it. I went with it. I leaned in. The Masters is always an incredible experience, but this time I went with Amazon because they got broadcast rights, which is incredible because when you think about something as esteemed as The Masters, and so for Amazon to have rights to exclusively broadcast it for a couple hours throughout the day was an awesome thing. It continues. For Amazon's sports portfolio, that's a big feather in the cap because The Masters, as we all know, is a tradition unlike any other, and it's very esteemed and it's up there. I was really excited to be a part of that and continue to watch Amazon sports platforms grow, and especially with something like golf. I mean, that's not just something that every day comes around. So really, really cool. But yes, my favorite part was just number one. I mean, yes, I'm a company gal, but I really was excited when we started on Thursday Night Football now going into our fifth year. It was like, oh God, I hope the streamer works. I hope you guys don't just end up having the circle of death and it doesn't even air. And really didn't know if this was going to work to now have it, this vibe, just really a short amount of time when you think about it. To already have NBA, to have soccer properties, to have football, to now have golf. So it's really cool. So yes, that part was exciting for me. But also going with Steve was really special because Steve is from Atlanta and he had never been to The Masters before. So getting to see it through his eyes, like I took my child to Disneyland for the first time. But it was, I mean, Steve loves golf. And it was really cool to just have him sort of be able to take it all in, which I remember the first time I went, it was just, I was in awe of it. I still am every single time. The weather was perfect, but yeah, I remember leaving there. I was like, so how was it? And he was like, it's not overhyped. It's not, when people say it is the Mecca, it really is. The every detail of that place is incredible. I got a gnome for the first time. I didn't know this about the whole, for anyone that's been to The Masters, I've always had the like, go get your chairs, put them down first thing in the morning. That's fine. But getting to the gift shop right when it opens, shout out to Ryan Fitzpatrick and to Liza, his wife, who by the way, she's a saint. She's raising seven children. Fitz is occasionally the eighth child, but yeah, she's a dream. She made these jackets called the Chair Runner Society, and you had to earn the jacket. It was, we got to get up at five o'clock in the morning. We have to be there right when the gates open. You don't run, you walk, because you cannot run on the hallowed grounds of Augusta. So you walk fast, put your chairs down. Ryan Fitzpatrick had a whole plan. Okay, we're going to the fourth hole. We're going to the 12th. We're going, you know, 16. And Liza made us these chairs. And if you were part of the early crew and put a chair out, then you got one of these jackets. You would have thought that we were walking around. Now granted, the jackets were green. But we were walking around as if we had won The Masters. People were looking at us like, what are these jackets? Anyways, it turned into a whole thing, as it normally does with our group. But it was really fun. So I'd say Amazon's Broadcasting Rights, number one, was my highlight. One A and one B was the fact that Fitz had these amazing jackets that Liza had made us, called the Chair Runner Society. If you don't know, you know. Of course, there's an Instagram account now, Steve. I was going to give you one guess to figure out who started that. Go follow it. It's quite entertaining. Actually, I don't think there's one post because we couldn't take any pictures on the golf course. Okay, El Stuttered. Describe your perfect date night. Well, let me put my phone on silent. My perfect date night. That's hard because I actually have a couple. I think just sitting at home, sitting on the couch and as Steve would tell you, what are we going to do? Just watch Dateline. I love Dateline. I think a date night at home, comfy cozies, glass of wine, that's great. But if I'm going to go out on a date, I would say getting dressed up because it is important. I mean, look, we all like being comfortable, ladies, I get that. But I think it's important to also put a little effort in, dry your hair, throw on some makeup, maybe half the amount that I have on today. Put on some makeup and put on whatever outfit that you feel most comfortable in. But for me, because I live in t-shirts and jeans, I think throwing on a cute dress or something like that is always nice. And going out to dinner and planning the dinner, right? Because Steve's actually very good about date nights, and I think it's important to also reciprocate that effort and surprise your significant other. Send them a text and say, get ready, be ready by seven o'clock, wear such and such thing, and you be the person that plans the date, I think is nice because effort is always appreciated. So a restaurant, also too, I've done this thing before, Steve loves it. Men and their fantasies will just let them have it. I do a thing called Housewife Night because I'm not the most domesticated gal. Admittingly, I don't sit and make dinner for Steve every night. I don't do that, he's the one that cooks. So every now and then, I try to do it like once a month, put on a cute outfit, Housewife Night, I make the dinner, let him relax, circa 1950s, like we're just going back in time, kick up your feet. You know that scene in Pretty Woman, that's the more explicit, like X-rated version of it. I mean, do that if you want, but you know what I'm talking about, if you know what I'm talking about, where she puts on the tie. Anyways, I think those are fun too, Housewife Night, Steve gets a kick out of it. So any of those, they really span, there's a full spectrum, A to Z, sweats on the couch or out at a restaurant. Lena Wildflower, what is Lolly doing at Ruby Ranch? Lolly is currently moved over into the goat area, as I outlined at the beginning because the goats have to eat down the whole embankment that she's on. Lolly's thriving. So for those of you that don't know, Lolly was found or we rescued her from underneath, she was living underneath a trailer on a property that's a few miles away from ours. The owners, her owners had died and she would have just been left down there. So we were feeding her, we'd go drive down there and feed her. And then we didn't feel comfortable leaving her down there. She didn't have, it was just her and there's bears and there's all sorts of stuff up in these mountains. So to have her protect herself, and she's a big dog, but you want to have more protection for her. So we were able to move her up to our property and then she was, I don't know if she ever even, honestly you guys, had any sort of physical touch. I knew the owners, but briefly, and I don't know what their relationship was with her, if she was just there to protect them from the animals. But she definitely wasn't a dog that had a lot of physical touch, if any, because she was very adverse to that. She wouldn't let us get close, and it's taken us a long time to even have her warm up to us. But she'll let me pet her, if she's in her dog house, where her back's to that, and she doesn't feel like, you know, she feels safe in there. So she'll let me pet her paw, like, you know, not ever, I still can't pet her on the head. And I'm dying to get that. She's got like the like eye booger thing, and it's like dripping down her face, like it's like mascara, sweet little girl. She doesn't care, but I care. I just want to hug her. Like it's my dream where she's gonna let me throw my arms around her, but I also have to respect its baby steps, and we've come a long way in the year that we've had her. So she'll let me, like I said, pet her little paw area or her little paw, which is in her little house area. And then she lets me get probably within like two feet of her. She really likes the other dogs. She gets very excited when I let some of the other dogs into her area. Some people have asked, why don't you let her out with them? Because we're afraid that she'll go back to the trailer where she lived. And if she goes back there, then it's just going to be a constant cycle of us trying to continue to bring her back to a safe environment. So she's got ample room. She's got like over an acre of this whole area that we built for her. She's got two, girls got two beds. She's got the dog house. She's got the outdoor bed. She's got, she also, she's a great Pyrenees. That breed needs to, they're protector. They need to feel like they're protecting animals. So she's around the goats. She's around the sheep and the pig and the chicken. So she's got purpose. So yeah, she's doing, she's doing great. I know she's doing great, even though she can't, she won't let me hug her, is because like when she sees me now in the morning, she'll do this little hop thing. Like she gets excited because I have hot dogs for her. She loves hot dogs. So she's doing great. She is definitely an example that, you know, I'm somebody who is a fixer and I want things fixed now. And like, well, I just, just be better. And I want, you know, everybody here, all animals or people in general that I love, I just want them to be happy. But she's been a great lesson for me in patience, which I don't have a lot of, that in time and on her schedule, she is slowly letting me know that she trusts me. And for that, I'm grateful because it really is, you know, it's not a sprint with her. It's a marathon. But I know that I'm giving her the best environment and in a sense of purpose, which I know that those dogs always need. Everybody needs a sense of purpose and to feel loved. So she's doing great. And I think it's so sweet that you guys ask about her because she definitely like have a real big spot in my heart for her. Who's about to get emotional? This girl. There's no crying at the ranch as my hat says. So we're not going to cry right now. All right, next question. Oregano Gangster, oh my god, what a name. That's incredible. Oregano Gangster asks, semi-confident, I don't want kids. How did you tell your parents you didn't want kids? Oregano Gangster, first of all, you're great, that name. How did I tell my parents I didn't want kids? I don't think I had this moment where I was like, I've got to call my parents and tell them I don't want kids. I think it just happened when they got the gist of it, when they watched me go through a terrible divorce and later in life, and as I was going through that, at that point, I had already frozen my eggs. I hadn't made embryos with that person, which was a telltale sign that I obviously didn't trust them. But I had already frozen my eggs, I was 35 when I did that, because I always thought I was going to have kids. I grew up around kids. My mom had a daycare center, so she could stay home and watch us and also make money. So I was constantly around kids. I was a nanny, I babysat for a family. When I was at the age of 11, I started babysitting for them in the neighborhood and continued watching them until I graduated high school. So for seven years, and I would travel with them, we'd go to Mexico, we'd go to Hawaii. And I would, anyways, I was always very, very, very comfortable with kids. I love kids. I don't say that I'm great at a lot of things, but I think I'm really great with kids. Because for me, it's easy, just always having been around them. In saying all that, I did say to my mom one time, which makes me laugh, because if you know my mom, you know, this is, she's like one of the, the utmost, she's like the foremost authority on kid watching. She watched my brother and sister's kids. She is just, it's what she was born to do, is to watch kids and she's so good with them. But I said to her one time, I go, yeah, I don't think I'm going to have any kids. And she goes, yeah, kids are overrated. I wouldn't do it. And I looked at her and I was like, mother? Are you my mother? The doctor says, but I was like, mom, you can't say that you're my mom. She goes, of course I can say that. She goes, I can say that because I'm your mom. She goes, look, you better be damn sure that you want kids because that is not for the faint of heart. It is the most selfless thing you can do. It is a lifelong commitment. She's like, look, I think at this point, I was probably like 38 or whatever. And she's like, I worry about you every single day and you're an adult. She's like, it doesn't go away. So I always think about that when she says that they're overrated. But yeah, it was and still is, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, I'm turning 44 here soon and the fertility clinic keeps calling. Hopefully no one at the fertility clinic listens to this podcast. They're like, so are you still storing these eggs? Do you want them? And I've gone back and forth, you guys, because I want to donate eggs, because as Erin can attest to and has talked about openly on this podcast, her struggles with fertility and her struggles with having babies and stuff. And I just think about all these women, I don't feel comfortable just disposing of these eggs I have when there's so many women. And I don't even know if they're viable, honestly. I mean, they're not embryos, they're not any of that. But I just, I don't know, I go back and forth with like, maybe I'll change my mind and I just will wake up one day at 50 and be like, why did I get rid of those eggs? So I don't know, I just feel like it's kind of this thing that I'm 99.9% sure that I don't want to have kids. But that 1.1% is still there. And I don't think, I don't think that I will. But anyways, I guess in saying all that is, I'm very comfortable right now with my decision not to have children. And I don't know if I could have even had them anyways. But my conscious choice to not have children is something that I have thought long and hard about. And obviously being with a man like Steve who has also said that it's not something that he wants to do. And he had originally, you know, always said he wanted kids as well prior to meeting me. But now, as we've gotten older, he said that his priorities have changed and not having kids is something that he's comfortable with. So in asking your question and how I told my parents, it was sort of, I think they kind of got that, you know, from me as I was going through some of the tougher stuff in life. But for you, when you're saying semi-confident, I don't want kids, I feel that. I understand that, right? Where I feel confident I don't want them, but there's still that 0.1 percent. So, I don't know what your situation is. I don't even know if you're male or female. You're an oregano gangster. So if you can freeze your eggs, or if there's something that you can do to give yourself sort of an insurance policy since you're not 100 percent sure, that would be great. Or adoption. I think that for me, especially because I have so many animals, and look, I understand those are different than kids. However, for me, having all these animals feeds my maternal instinct. I feel needed, I feel loved, I feel like this responsibility. So that for me is enough. And not even is it enough, it's what I'm happiest doing is taking care of animals and not children. Now give me other people's children. I'll take care of them all day long and then I'll pass them back. Hell, I'll even let them, I've had Tony's kids up here. We've had slumber parties, my nieces and nephews. I'm great with kids. I'm also going to ship them back. Parents love that. Next up, Marcia Brady Nine. Girlfriend, what are you watching or reading this off season? Watching, well, I did the Mormon Housewife thing. I watched that, the Real Lives of Mormon. Then it's now obviously that's spiraled into a whole bunch of stuff. So I wish everyone that's going through some stuff over there with them, I wish them well and I hope that whatever is going on with them, will be resolved peacefully. I know there's children involved, I know there's a lot of story lines there. But just as a viewer of the show, I was entertained for some of the subplots that were happening prior to all the drama. So I watched that reading. I just finished reading Heart of a Lover. Heart of Lover, Heart of a Lover. It was by Lilly King, that was very good. Then I have a reading list actually of books that I want to read this summer, because I told myself there's no excuse to not be able to at least finish five books. You can read a book a month. I mean, some of these books, it's like you could definitely read two in a month, let's be honest. But so I had a book list, two of the ones that I have started. So I like to read two books at a time. I don't know, probably that's bad. I don't know. You know, what is bad? It's really a personal choice, but especially for me and my squirrel ADD, I like to go back and forth between the two. So this one I just started, I Who Have Never Known Men. Wow. This was a recommendation off a book list from somebody that I respect. And it is really interesting. So it's 40 women are, this sounds bad, 40 women are held captive in this like underground kind of cage, imprisoned in the cage. But the idea behind it is that they're, and then they're eventually released back into society. And the men that are holding them captive don't talk. And so they're these silent guards. And I guess, and again, I'm early on in the book, but the idea behind this is sort of what makes us human. Is it like, you know, what makes us human when society and outside influences are stripped away? So sort of like when you're there, you only are, you know, you only know your experience and what's going on around you, and you're not influenced by society. Sort of who do you become? So obviously, there's like a lot more to it. Like I said, what page am I on? I'm on page 35. But I think a lot of it has to do with like your search for purpose. I'll keep you updated on that one. The other one is chop wood, carry water. This comes from a Zen philosophy that when you start the book, you're like, okay, I'm supposed to chop wood and carry water. Well, by the end of the book, it's still you're supposed to chop wood and carry water. So it's the same idea that success, and this is what I love. Success isn't a dramatic transformation. It's doing basic work, but doing it consistently with discipline and with purpose. So the idea is that you're still going to chop wood and carry water. There hasn't been some drastic change in the responsibility. It's just you're doing it with purpose, which I think is interesting and also something that I like. Being consistent, that's something that resonates with me. And they said if you want to build better habits than to read this, my girlfriend Lauren gave me this book and I am on page 39. So we'll let you know. But yeah, it says at the front, how to fall in love with the process of becoming great. So yeah, so that is what I'm doing on that front where I put my phone. If you guys have any recommendations on shows or books, I would love them. I would love them. Calm Down With Erin and Charissa is a production of IHeartRadio. For more podcasts from IHeartRadio, visit the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.