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[00:12] Tonight, we will be discussing Ancient, Giant, Baby Skeletons. We are going to discuss fake dinosaurs. We're going to discuss carbon dating. But first, I want to discuss something serious. I want to discuss the elephant in the room about this show. And I don't know where to start. It's a really tough thing to talk about. But a lot of you were tuning in last night, and you saw it yourselves with your own eyes. And this is a tough thing for me to admit publicly. But I was taken over by a gruesome sweater last night. Everyone saw it. It made headlines today. And I thought the only way to really make amends with you guys, forcing you to have to look at that shirt, which I have now launched into fake space, we should go over everything everyone said about it quickly before we get into the ancient giant baby skeleton. Bodhi Gaya said, Chat, stop focusing on his shirt. Look how ugly those buttons are. Kelly said, I'd wear that shirt. Just get people to dislike me. No, this is serious though. I shouldn't be laughing. This is pretty serious. OMG said, the narcissist poet. I got in a fight on Facebook for making fun of Fred Durst for wearing a jacket like that. His fans are savage. I bought it from Fred Durst, actually. Synchro said, looks like a shirt you'd see on Blue's Clues. And shout out to Adrian Curry. Thank you so much for the super chat last night. Very grateful for that. Appreciate you tuning in and supporting the show. But this is serious. This is all very serious. Chili Pean. Chili Pean said, I imagine the shirt smells like hard boiled eggs and cardboard with hints of a reptile terrarium. That one's pretty real. That one is pretty real. There's more. I think it's worth getting into it. I think it's worth struggle sessioning that sweater. But the reality is, even though I launched it into outer space, I have a feeling it's going to come back. And I can't help it. It's like a symbiote suit. Symbiote suit. Anthony Gutierrez said, Shane, with the Blockbusters manager tee. A blast from the past. Kelly again, Kelly had a lot of very pleasant things to say about the shirt. That's the kind of shirt you find in a house that's been abandoned for 23 years. That is very specific, but also true. Kelly also said, I think I had that shirt when I was 10 years old. And yet, I kept getting beat up. Bodhi Gaya said, again, the colors don't go well together. You know, you might be right. Chili Pean also said this, and I believe it's poignant, literally the ugliest shirt I've ever seen, LOL. All right. Oh, there's more. So if you don't like this, you can just pause and skip forward. I think this is worth really giving attention to. Chili Pean said, the shirt is speaking. Shane is just a growth. The shirt needed to have influence in the world. I think that's fact. Bodhi Gaya said, the shirt needs more flair. Kelly also said, what's Shane even talking about? I can't get past the shirt. Oh, the narcissist poet did get it last night because he said, this chat is precious. Bodhi Gaya said, you don't see many mustard colors anymore. Blue Sky said, did structure make women's sweaters? Bodhi Gaya said, the shirt looks like AI from last year made it. Kelly said, once you have the shirt, you will own nothing and be happy. Holy moly, I think I have just a few more. It's very worthwhile to go through this. I am kidding. I didn't send to space. I actually just bought 30 more and I will be wearing only exclusively. I am now sponsored by that sweater. So if that's a deal breaker for everyone, I'm really sorry. But it was very comfortable, not itchy at all. Very breathable, you know, as a symbiote. Kelly said, the pocket seal is a deal for me. It's a beautiful, big, giant, white pocket that does nothing. But he says, I hope it's comfortable because it's not attractive. Kelly said, Shane should market the shirt. I'd buy one just for the nerd points. Kelly also said, I'm getting itchy just looking at it. Cosmic Wanderer, thank you so much. You did say, it is a dope shirt. That's right. It is a dope shirt. James said, I should have been on Tim Kess last night. I didn't watch, I don't know what I missed. But thank you for saying that. Synchro said, the shirt has lore already. Music Monkey Man once said, I had bell bottoms that matched the shirt along with a purple top hat I wore in a band in 1977. I'm assuming he said 77, but maybe that's 1877. Synchro said, it's a sentient entity that takes over the mind of whoever wears it. And that is true, which is why I now own a thousand more. So thank you so much for tuning in and critiquing that, because sometimes I don't own a mirror. Oh, he's a vampire, they don't use mirrors. Yeah, we have no mirrors, no TVs, just this phone and this microphone. And now we're gonna get into some Neanderthal news. Well, hello everybody. Thank you for tuning in tonight. It's great to have you back. Appreciate everyone's comments last night. I was looking at those earlier and cracking up. I knew you guys wouldn't disappoint. I knew you guys wouldn't disappoint. It's funny that I could sit here and hold like a cow skull, a bull skull for two hours. And that doesn't get the amount of attention that sweater get, which says a lot about that sweater. It's a real statement piece. You guys just wouldn't get it, okay? It's a modern art, okay? Oh man, I can't wait to wear it again. I'm just going to keep wearing it every day from here on out. You guys, from Futurism, from just a few days ago, you are not prepared to learn the size of Neanderthal infants. So we're going to talk about this. We're going to talk about giants, the narrative around giants. We're going to talk about carbon dating, dinosaurs, all that good stuff. Obviously, a lot of us have different opinions on the age of Earth, the narrative around giants, around dinosaurs, around space. We're not going to do too much space today, if at all. But I saw this today. I'm like, let's do it. I love honey. I blew up the kids. I love honey. I shrunk the kids. And this is just like the OG version of that. If we're talking about ancient breakaway civilizations, and the flood, and giants, and maybe we'll get into the Kandahar Giant, and perhaps they had some technology back then to create their own giant clones back in the day, in the Dizze, you know, because we're going to talk about numbers here that I don't really believe in. But you might, and that's fine. And we'll get into both sides of that argument. Neanderthal babies were apparently bigger and grew faster than familiar human tykes. At least El Pais reports, that's the conclusion from a team of scientists based in Israel and Europe who analyzed the remains of a six month old Neanderthal ankle biter who was downright colossal at a comparable size to a one year old Homo sapien. That means the babies of Neanderthal's extinct cousins to us contemporary humans. That's what the story says. I don't really believe in that stuff. But anyway, we'll get into my thoughts in a second. We're real life versions of the distinctly sturdy cave baby, Bam Bam Rubble from the iconic animated show The Flintstones, a great show, a great cartoon. The scientists noticed that while the skeletal remains of the Neanderthal child buried in a cave in northern Israel, about 51,000 to 56,000 years ago, sported relatively thick bones and a large skull that made it seem older. The development of its teeth betrayed its younger age as detailed in a new paper in the journal, Current Biology. They also found a very ugly sweater with the baby skeleton. And that we'll get into that later as well. I believe that the histological age of the teeth is more accurate than age measured by the volume of the long bones of the endocranial cavity for estimating such a young age, Ella Bean, Tel Aviv University Professor in Anatomy and Anthropology. In the paper's first author told El Pais. Previous research in 2022 also found that neanderthal kids had more robust bones than that of modern human children, fully mature specimens of neanderthals, and are typically stockier and shorter than us human adults. When compared with other known neanderthal infants, the same pattern emerges, faster body and brain growth, suggesting greater energy expenditure. Bean told El Pais, that is a wild last name, Bean. It's funny because it's like a past tense word for someone who looks into the past, so that's how you know it's fake. Understanding this pattern is crucial to understanding who Neanderthals were and how they adapted to their environment. I'm not one to talk because my last name's Cashman, sounds fake, and, you know, people just have names that sound fake. Every name's fake, I guess, they all get made up. Anthony Fauci's last name means sickle in Italian. The baby being studied, the baby being studied, okay, that is a funny little sentence there. The baby that the archeologist being studied was found in a cave along with about 20 other deceased neanderthals back in the 1960s, but scientists only started studying the remains in the 1990s. The new paper is the first comprehensive study of the child's 111 recovered bones, according to the paper. The finding not only reveals more information of the development of neanderthals and how they remained mysterious, but it also throws in high relief the differences between them and us. Neanderthals lived in Europe and Asia between 400,000 to 40,000 years ago. It's a pretty big span of fake time there, back when conditions were harsher than they are today. And hence, they went through a process of natural selection that seemingly favored the survival of robust, well-built children that could mature quickly. Well-built children is an interesting way of writing that sentence. Futurism. Even with these differences, that didn't stop our ancestors from getting to know each other. Because there's evidence that male Neanderthals and female humans mated and produced offspring. Sounds like Genesis 6, doesn't it? Signs of these intimate relations are scattered throughout our DNA, telling an ancient story of when two hominid species coexisted during prehistory. Oh, yeah. So that's just a little bit about it. I want to get into a little more. And then also we're going to get into some giant history, history about giants. Tiny little fly has gotten into my house and seems to be remote controlled. Hope it doesn't land on my face like, was it Mike Pence that got the fly on the hair during a debate? And maybe Obama as well. So Ella Bean, a professor at Ono Academic College in Israel, just published a study in Current Biology on Amud 7, the most complete Neanderthal infant skeleton ever found. It's from Amud Cave in Israel. You know, it's about 50,000 years ago, allegedly. Using standard radiocarbon and stratigraphic methods, the baby died around six months old based on tooth development and enamel growth lines. But it's bones and brain size matching modern human one year old or even older, arms and legs like a 13 to 14 month old. It was massive 70 to 78 centimeters tall with thick robust bones right from the start. So we're going to get into radiocarbon dating and both sides of the argument for and against it. I have my qualms with it. I'm sure it doesn't surprise many of you, but it's worth getting into both sides of that argument in a little bit. And I just even though this is an ancient child, it's still so sad. It's so sad to see a child's grave. When I was doing my little side gig as a grave digger, I remember the first grave I helped dig happened to be next to a baby's grave. Horrible. It's just so horrible. It's so horrible. It's like I talk so much crap on modernity, but I try to remind myself and try to remind you guys, obviously, there's so many great things today. Infant mortality rates are different now, and we also have human sacrifice with abortions and all that stuff. But it used to be more commonplace that the babies wouldn't make it, and there's stories of like, we wouldn't name babies until they were a little older because we didn't know if they were going to have them for that long. But it just breaks my heart, thinking about this baby from that long ago, and what that family went through, what the mother went through, who knows what that dynamic was like. But it's just a crazy thing to think, how different the world definitely looked. Clearly, we can debate the time frame and all that stuff, but all that really it boils down to is, there were people with a child and they lost it. And I don't know too much about the cave. It sounds like there's a lot of other people, corpses or skeletal remains found there. Just crazy thing to think about. So, Bean says, This rapid growth was genetic, not environmental, and she saw the same pattern to other Neanderthal kids from Syria and France. Neanderthal babies basically hit toddler size in six months, so they say, built different, stronger, faster, and maturing than us, so they say. No one knows anything. On the Nephilim side, though, if we're going to talk about Genesis 6 and Giants, and another race that might be of hybrids, of hybrid origin, some Biblical literalists, like I consider myself a Biblical literalist, and fringe theorists, I'll take that as well. What did we say yesterday? We're transparency advocates? We're that too. Obviously, we link that to Genesis 6. Like I was saying, the sons of God producing giant offspring called the Nephilim, they point to Neanderthal's stocky, powerful build, bigger brains early on, and interbreeding with modern humans is matching the Giants or hybrid heroes of old. It's a stretch for some to believe that I get it, but that's how I look at this stuff. That is the lens through which I see these things. And you guys, please feel free to agree, disagree, share your angles, what you think about this stuff. We've gone through like young age, old age, old, I mean, young earth, old earth and all that good stuff. And you can leave those comments below as well, because it's always good. Maybe you didn't hear those episodes and you're here now, and you have an idea of when you think the earth was created. This stuff is constantly changing. We're going to get into more of that as well as the show goes on. How science is not set in stone. As it shouldn't be, like a lot of the science, like Fauci, I am science, they want it to be set in stone. Especially when it comes to things that they want you to put in your body. That's insane. But knowing that it's not set in stone, as good science should not be set in stone, it's constantly changing. We should keep those in mind as we're hearing these things about them trying to rewrite human history, which does fall in line with yesterday's show, talking about narrative, redefining existence, redefining life on earth, rewriting history so they can create a new future that lines up with the new version that they are making of history. But this idea pops up in creation of circles, tying pre-flood, you know, like the Nephilim and the archaic humans, mainstream science obviously sees this as just another hominin growth strategy, nothing supernatural, which I don't agree with that last part. So I was wondering if any Biblical scholars had said anything publicly yet about this Neanderthal baby. There's nothing yet. It's still pretty new despite them having this since like the, starting looking at it in the 90s. I haven't seen anything from it, but I want to keep up on the stories. I'm always curious about the intersection between science and faith. And we have people saying they think they found the Ozark. That's in the news like every 10 years. There's a new thing now. I haven't done too much digging in it. The Shroud of Turin using technology to look at it and try to prove that it is actually the Shroud of Turin. I am fascinated by all those. I will say that I don't need science to give me any evidence to confirm my faith. My faith exists apart from science, apart from any evidence. I don't need that other than what I read in the Bible. And that's something that took me a long time to wrap my head around to in part in terms of my stubbornness of becoming religious and accepting God and believing in something bigger than me. You know, I didn't need, I realized I don't need that. I have this amazing book of stories. That's my evidence. Again, I know some of us disagree. It's totally cool. But I don't, I see I have a lot of friends who they seem to need the confirmation from science about the Shroud of Turin and about Noah's Ark to be like, it is true. It is fascinating and it is great. And I love the conversation. And I want to see more of that stuff. I like reading about it and seeing what they're saying, how that changes over time. There's been multiple people who think they found Noah's Ark. But I don't need it. I don't need it. So let's see here. I was interested, I was pulling all this stuff this morning. As I was reading a Futurism article and thinking about what other stories are like it. And I found scientists redating the Lagervelho child from Portugal. That's a four-year-old found in 1998 with a weird mix of modern human and Neanderthal traits. New dating puts it at 28,000 years old, confirming it as a real hybrid. It had short stocky legs like a Neanderthal, but other features like you and I. There's also the five-year-old child's skull from Skull Cave. I believe that's how you pronounce it, but it's spelled S-K-H-U-L Cave in Israel was reanalyzed in 2025, and it shows clear Neanderthal and modern human features and dates to about 140,000 years ago. We are going to get into how they come up with these numbers in a minute, and that pushes back the earliest known interbreeding by roughly 100,000 years. So wherever you fall with the radiocarbon dating and young earth versus old earth, it is really interesting, or just being a biblical literalist to have this and have this conversation and see the scientists who don't. I mean, some of them certainly do. There's plenty of scientists who have faith, and not every scientist is captured by the cult ideology of modern day science that is a Fauci-ish cult. They had little like those sainted Fauci and put them in a candle for crying out loud. And then for the more of the giant side of things, I was, where is this? There's hoax photos is what I came across, and medieval tall guys like the six foot five inch Viking era man from England who got called a giant because everyone else was shorter around that time. No actual oversized ancient human bones holding up to scrutiny. Those hybrid kids are the real recent story, shaking up the ancient human picture of what we're talking about with redefining history, redefining human existence, redefining our origins. I will say Owen Benjamin has a great line about Nephilim. I think it's I hate to get it. I hate to paraphrase it, but it's something like, the N word for tall people is Nephilim. Owen's very tall. I'm six, two and he is much taller than me. Let's see here. Okay. And that led me to thinking about the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian comes up quite a bit when we're talking about giants. There's theories about the Smithsonian hiding giant skeletons. And I wanted to pull some information here from both sides of that argument. The people who believe that they're hiding giant skeletons, or they've been covering up the giant narrative, and the ones who think that's all hogwash. So, the strongest scholarly argument against the Smithsonian hiding giant skeletons comes from Alis Herdreka. I believe I'm saying that right. But he's the Smithsonian's own curator of physical anthropology. In 1934, he publicly explained why reports of seven to eight foot tall giants flooded his office two to three times a month. And it was always the same mistake he said. All right, this is the official story coming out of the Smithsonian. He said, people measured a femur against their own leg without accounting of how it connects to the pelvis, ignored that jaw bones are curved, so loose ones slide together, and sometimes mistook mammoth or mastodon bones for human ones. That seems like a stretch. That does seem like a stretch to me. I don't know, you guys ever confused? I've never actually seen one. Actually, I have seen. I have seen. I mean, if I'm going to think it's real, I have seen a mastodon skull in person. But he said people were confusing those bones from the mastodon and mammoth, and saying it was humans. I saw a mastodon skull. So at the old DMV in Goshen, New York, it was in a weird sort of abstract, brutalist building on that Main Street in Goshen. Shout out to anyone in Goshen. I know we've had some listeners who are from Goshen. And that's where I did most of my like furniture moving. We were located in that area. And but the DMV used to be in this really ridiculous building. And they had a giant mastodon skull right there, outside of the door into the DMV. And it was there because Pine Island is not too far from Goshen. And Pine Island is known for two things. It's known for its onions. A lot of Polish people settled there. And it's in a really beautiful part of the valley of what they say is, and it is, I mean, look at it. It's like the richest black dirt. They call it the black dirt region. It's beautiful. I did a really long story about them in the BBC 10 years ago. They have like, they take onions so seriously. And they're amazing. And they have a whole onion princess like celebration. They crown a new onion princess every year. I spoke to a woman who was an onion princess in the 70s. And it's amazing. Really beautiful. They say it's that old because of, you know, they have the idea of glaciers melting and it created this. And like, no one really knows, but that's the story they'd like to tell, which is fascinating. But it's also known for macedon skulls popping out of the ground. You know, I've never seen that happen. And where I grew up in our local paper, The Times Herald Record, that was a story that would be frequent in the paper. Hunter S. Thompson also used to work for The Times Herald Record. He was fired because he got into a vicious fight with a vending machine that did not give him the food he paid for. So he started beating it up. And then they fired him. And that's when he went down to Puerto Rico, I think it was Puerto Rico, where he would write his novel that didn't come out to a way later, that they turned in the movie with Johnny Depp, like the movie, Not Fear and Loathing. So this is like when he was a sports writer. This is pre Hells Angels, pre Fear and Loathing, all that good stuff. But I always liked the Hunter wrote for that paper, my local paper. And he was right out of town. But yeah, they said Macedon skulls would come up, and there would be all these stories about like local farmer, that Pine Island finds tusk that grew out of the ground. So like they would have onions popping out of the ground and tusks. And that's why we had a Macedon skull at the DMV in Goshen, New York. If it was even a real skull, I don't know, might have been from Spirit Halloween. So that's what he was saying. This guy from the Smithsonian, people were confusing old ancient mammoth or Macedon bones and saying that might have been belonged to giants, like human giants or human hybrid giants. Another conspiracy basically started because the Smithsonian kept debunking sensational newspaper stories from the 1800s, back when reporters loved tall tales and people wanted biblical, Nephilim or lost white mound builder race to justify taking native land. There's a lot of stories from around the same time about giant graveyards discovered under big mounds of dirt. If you're anyone out there listening, who knows about that stuff, you should hit me up because out here in West Virginia, oh, we got it. We got it big time. They have a huge story down way south of us about a mound they believe was a graveyard for giants. And we're gonna get to a caller before I continue. But before I do that, I just want to say, if you are interested, oh, man, he was right there, he went in and he went out. I was going to say, if you want to hear about my theory about how Alex Jones was raised, born and raised, well, he was born outside of it and raised inside of the town of Rockwall, Texas. And how they believe Rockwall was a anti-diluvian, anti-diluvian area, which is pre-flood. That's a fancy way of saying pre-flood. It was built by giants and they found walls beneath Rockwall, which is why it got its name, that some believe were built by giants. And like of all the places for Alex Jones to be raised, he was raised in Rockwall, Texas. And I have a long story with Alex and chasing him around Texas. That's in the book, Good Villains, available for pre-order now, linked at the top of my Twitter and my Instagram. Available for pre-order comes out September 1st. You can get the Kindle, you can get the hardcover. It will have an audiobook and the pre-orders, you buy that, you pre-order, that was a huge help to me. And continuing to write more books, I'm very stoked you'll be out through Sky Horse Publishing. But Alex Jones was raised in a town that was perhaps built by giants. The modern theory that people think the Smithsonian destroyed skeletons of giants, the skeptics think is pure satire, and they say it stems back to a 2014 fake news site called World News Daily Report, which is funny. Now, as I transitioned out of the Alex Jones story, now, it's not funny that Infowars is taken over by the Onion, but is so the Alex Jones is now turning into a satirical news site. I mean, how many times has Alex been right? He's been wrong, and he's apologized for things, and he's apologized for things I don't think he's had to apologize for. I don't think he should have apologized for Sandy Hook, but again, I don't understand that amount of stress and pressure when the whole world turns you into the Boogeyman. I mean, he was public enemy number one. And when I was with him in Texas for the story, it was like the height of like just the lawsuit. He lost the lawsuit. It was crazy. This is leading up to the 2024 election. I guess that was 2023. It was crazy. But Snopes said it was fake. So that's all you need to know. Snopes said this is fake. And if Snopes says it's fake, that's how you know it's real. And according to the skeptics, real archaeology, the archaeology experts, they shows no verified giant skeletons over six foot five or above it in North America and that any look huge are either mismeasured diseased individuals or merely hoaxes. The Smithsonian collected a lot of bones that people think are attributed to giants, but they attribute it, the Smithsonian attributes it to what we talked about earlier, the hybrids of humans and Neanderthals. However, let's look at the other side of this story. And I was looking up who has spoken about this on the flip side. And we have Jim Vieria, Hugh Newman and Richard Dewhurst in Dewhurst in books like Giants on Record and The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America. They collected hundreds of 19th and early 20th century newspaper reports of 7 to 12 foot skeletons dug up from mounds across the Midwest and the West. These weren't fringe rags. Local papers describe double rows of teeth, massive jaws, and bones too big for normal humans. The Smithsonian's own annual reports listed at least 17 giant finds. So what they're saying there is from my book and my story about Alyx, I came across the same thing where there were early reports of skeletons from the 1800s. People who say they found layers that belonged to giants and giant footwear and I think it was a giant axe maybe. And people said it was all a hoax. Now we know hoaxes are, that's old school stuff. People have been doing hoaxes for a long time. Ben Franklin, when he wasn't doing freak offs, also did lots of hoaxes. And so they tried to write it off that way, but I don't know if that's the case. You know, I think it's also used to say it's a hoax to discredit the narrative. They've been at this for a long time to cut down the biblical narrative and create this new narrative on top of it. And this is not that's not unique to today is what I'm trying to say. When I say this is an ancient evil that we're up against in all these different capacities, this is part of it. They are trying to rewrite history to make it so you believe in their version of history. So, these writers said there was a pattern that they were kind of putting together from old finds from these bones that were pulled from these mounds. And that according to them, the Smithsonian came and got them. If you don't know that theory, this is pretty everyone knows this theory and took them away and they vanished and there was no records of it. In a sort of parallel story, not about giants, but about the government and digging up things, there was the, this is so interesting. It's so funny to me that the day I went to Washington, Georgia, my first trip down there for the second Inverted World book, for the Confederate gold, the news broke about people who were looking for hunting gold in Pennsylvania. And they found gold, and they roped off this area. And I forget if it was the FBI, but they swooped in and took everything all away, and claimed it belonged to someone else. So, or claimed it belonged to them rather. But let's get to this caller before I continue the narrative on more giant examples. Let's see here. We will have Ryan at some point. Ryan, when you can hear me, you can unmute your mic, and you are on the show. Let us know what is up. We are waiting on Ryan. If you can hear me, your mic is muted. Here we go. What's up, man?

Speaker 2:
[33:49] Hey, what's up?

Speaker 1:
[33:50] Chillin. What's new? Tell us.

Speaker 2:
[33:52] I saw you put this on the X. I never listened to this Inverted World before, but I've heard you on Tim Cass. So I said, let me call in. I'm actually on the other side of the world on holiday, and it's like 11 o'clock at night, and it's raining outside, so let me check this out.

Speaker 1:
[34:14] Sick. Well, thanks, man. We typically take calls about anything strange or any stories you have from anything that you've heard about. I've been talking about ancient giant skeletons that they're trying to tell us. We're from 100,000 years ago, but what's going on? What's new? Tell us a story.

Speaker 2:
[34:32] Well, I saw you put some about carbon dating, and I'm kind of interested in what you have to say about that. I mean, I know the basics are right, but I just enjoy listening to wild and wacky stuff. Science, just some stuff I can tell my daughter, you know, she'll get a kick out of it.

Speaker 1:
[34:54] Well, I think they've weaponized science against human history, and I think there's a lot of things that can easily discredit the idea of carbon dating. I don't think anyone has any idea what happened that long ago. I have a different idea of how old Earth is. You know, as I was just saying earlier, I'm a biblical literalist, and so I have a different timeline of human existence and Earth that is in stark contrast to the science, especially to the science of carbon dating, and how they are, you know, it seems like every week, as I'm going over stories that are about ancient human history, they're adding another 10,000, 100,000 years to humanity. And, you know, science does change, but I don't think...

Speaker 2:
[35:37] I have seen that. It's like they keep discovering new stuff. I'm not sure if it's new stuff, or just the techniques are different. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[35:47] Yeah, it's both, you know? And science is a form of religion. And so I think a lot of scientists, a lot of modern scientists are eager to rewrite history in a way that divorces people from God and from the Bible. And so I have a major difference of opinion when it comes to this. I also do believe in giants, though. And so there's stories about quote unquote giants that I do find fascinating because I just have a different way of interpreting them. So it depends on the way you're looking at them. But I think they've kind of weaponized carbon dating in a way where they just kind of make it up as they go. And as they go along, the ancient deep history of humanity gets further and further into it, to me, an unrealistic scenario. And it's like every day there's something new. I mean, like in China or India, they found, this is like a year or two ago, they found a new cave that's way underground, that has a whole other civilization that adds 200,000 years or 100,000 years to humanity. And I'm like, where does it stop? And what's the point of this? I mean, I want to know, I love history, I love archaeology, I like finding out all this stuff. But I'm kind of putting it in context of, we were talking about the Smithsonian. There's the whole theory about they were covering up skeletons of giants. And so a lot of people like whether it's Snopes or so-called experts, they'll say, that's all a hoax, it's fake. If there are giants, if there were giants, it had to do with Neanderthals and modern humans or not modern humans, but ancient humans interbreeding. And so but then you go through it and if you do enough digging, there are reports that we can find dating back to the 1800s of what claimed to be giant graveyards in America. And then, okay, there's that, there's that. But then the so-called experts will say, that's all a hoax, it's all fake. You know, and this is going on to recent times, because we have the whole Kandahar giant thing that happened and they believe that, you know, we found the Kandahar giant and that he killed one of our soldiers. And like all these other stories, the theories around it, you know, they swept the corpse of the giant away to be studied somewhere, never to be seen again.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] I got a question for you. I'm from, I'm from like down the Bayou, man, like south Louisiana. There's, there's like an amateur archaeologist. I saw, saw some article a few months back. There's like, he's claiming he found a, I think it's, shit, it's like a 10, 13 some 10 or 13,000-year-old submerged city with like a 200-something-foot pyramid off, offshore of like offshore some of Louisiana's barrier islands. Yeah. Have you, have you seen that?

Speaker 1:
[39:01] I haven't looked into it too much, but that was in the news recently. I'm pulling up right, right now. This has been in the news in different ways lately because if I'm remembering correctly, in the Epstein files, we learned that Galane, who is a licensed to pilot a submarine, was also in search of an ancient lost city down there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:31] There's so much shit in there. I just can't keep up, man, but that's...

Speaker 1:
[39:37] So I'm looking at it right now. It's Pavlopetri, I think, is what you might be referencing, the oldest sunken city in the world. I'm trying to see if this is the one down by Louisiana.

Speaker 2:
[39:47] I remember it's like Chandelier, all that word, all surely. It's not that far from the coast. Yeah, let me look it up. I read it in, well, somewhere. I can't remember. Somewhere on the internet.

Speaker 1:
[40:01] Yeah, no, I'm looking at, there's a few.

Speaker 2:
[40:04] Yeah, my brother said it there because it looks like that stuff.

Speaker 1:
[40:08] There's a few going on right now, and it kind of all wraps up into this whole conversation of ancient history and redefining the timeline, because we also at the same time have people in Egypt saying they found another sphinx that's below ground. Have you seen that story?

Speaker 2:
[40:24] Another one?

Speaker 1:
[40:25] Sphinx?

Speaker 2:
[40:27] Oh, well, I've seen the ones, they use like, what is it, Linar or what has some kind of technique. And then, I mean, it takes interpretation, and they saw some stuff under the pyramids, but another sphinx I'm not sure about.

Speaker 1:
[40:46] Yeah, there's like all these stories, there's discrepancy of like, is it really a sphinx? Is it an ancient Baal graveyard? They say there's tunnels under there that are leading from an ancient sphinx to something else. But it's fascinating that all these stories are kind of converging right now, and especially with the the glane aspect of it, because they seem gung-ho on trying to find whatever's buried in the waters outside of, I think it was, Louisiana. Let me see here, I found this from the archaeologist, mysterious ruins off Louisiana co-spark theories of 12,000 year old lost city. This is what you're talking about. Retired architect, yes, this is it. Retired architect and amateur archaeologist, George Gallay, has claimed the discovery of a submerged ancient city off the coast of Louisiana near the chandelier islands. According to Gallay, the site dates approximately 12,000 years ago, placing it at the end of the last ice age when rising sea levels submerged vast coastal landscapes. He's dubbed it the hypothetical city of Crescentus. They're saying hundreds of buried buildings, stretching across the seabed were found. A 280-foot tall pyramid described as emitting electromagnetic energy that allegedly interferes with navigational compasses. Several local fishermen, including Ricky Robin, reported compasses spinning wildly when passing over the purported pyramid site, and also granite blocks that according to Gallay do not naturally occur in Louisiana, suggesting deliberate human transport. He speculates that early inhabitants somehow floated the stones down the Mississippi River and assembled them along the Gulf Coast. Okay, that's wild. I wonder if that's what Gallay is looking for too, you know, or was looking for.

Speaker 2:
[42:29] I don't know. It's crazy stuff, man.

Speaker 1:
[42:33] Yeah, I think that there were ancient civilizations, even if we could all agree or disagree on the timeline of humanity. But I think it's appropriate, it's reasonable to think that there were ancient civilizations that could be technologically advanced, but were lost to some catastrophes, whether they were manmade catastrophes or natural disasters, and they were lost in time. And a lot of the stuff we were looking at in the Epstein files was kind of hinting at that. I mean, not like directly, but in the early days of those Epstein files, we were talking about the Rothschilds, and that's an ancient family with a lot of money controlling a lot of things like wars. So I was then unspooling this idea through the Epstein files of ancient breakaway civilizations, passing down knowledge and money to newer generations, like a lineage that would exist throughout the ages. And I think that is extremely, I think that's real. When you look at just the Rothschilds, that's just like the name and faces that we know. I think there's other families with names and faces we don't know that could extend further back. Like we know the Rothschilds, they were funding both sides of the Napoleonic Wars. And then up until recent times in the Epstein files, we are literally seeing Epstein and other people like Peter Thiel or Bannon, which was crazy, talking about manufacturing wars, using wars to confuse the populations, destroying societies to extract wealth. And a lot of that to me, lines up with this idea of these ancient civilizations and where some of these people might have went. That's the whole idea. If you haven't heard of the breakaway civilization theories, like people who had the means back in the day and facing a catastrophe, were able to survive somehow. And when I see stories like this one, you're pointing out, I think it's possible.

Speaker 2:
[44:26] You got to these rich folks right now building bunkers and stuff, right?

Speaker 1:
[44:31] 100 percent. I mean, Peter Thiel's got doomsday bunkers. They're all working on private cities. They're going underground. What are they anticipating?

Speaker 2:
[44:41] Who knows, man, it's hard.

Speaker 1:
[44:45] Is your, sorry, is your avatar headless body and topless bar?

Speaker 2:
[44:52] It is, it's actually my favorite headline.

Speaker 1:
[44:56] I reference that so often on this show. That's one of my favorite headlines ever. That's amazing.

Speaker 2:
[45:02] I don't think there's ever been a better headline written.

Speaker 1:
[45:07] It's really good. Awesome. Well, dude, I appreciate you reaching out. Do you have anything you want to share? Before I let you go, we got another caller coming up next.

Speaker 2:
[45:15] Okay. No, I mean, you brought up just science is a religion. I mean, I'm big on looking in the climate change and the science behind that. And that one is really a religion.

Speaker 1:
[45:29] All right. Well, before I let you go, what do you think about the whole poll shifting? Are you following that story and people think the polls are shifting?

Speaker 2:
[45:37] I have not heard of it, but I'm not educated enough.

Speaker 1:
[45:42] Yeah. I mean, I'm not educated enough of anything to comment on anything, but here I am. But like I, there's a growing sentiment that the polls are shifting and people do believe it. I'm not sold on that idea. Again, I'm looking at it through a biblical lens and that just doesn't fall in line with that. But I'm willing to just think anything's possible. But people are saying the polls are going to shift and I forget the guy's name. I know everyone who's going to be watching this is going to tell me the guy's name. I've done a show with him with Tim. I think I've done a few shows with him. But he says that every 10, 20, 30,000 years, there's a poll shift in that the Earth is just going to go through a huge change when the polls shift. And that's what people are expecting to be happening and that perhaps the ancient breakaway civilizations know of this knowledge and are expecting that to happen. And that could be why a lot of these people like the Teals, like a lot of the tech guys, a lot of this money, Zuckerberg, that they're preparing to survive this as the next breakaway civilization, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 2:
[46:44] And we're like, we're past when it should have happened, right?

Speaker 1:
[46:48] I think we're close. I don't know if we're past. I don't know about it too much, but people are, they've been commenting on a lot lately because they'll say that, yeah, it is allegedly it's close and that this is what people are preparing for. But I don't know, I just have a little little human brain.

Speaker 2:
[47:05] Yeah, well, it's cool talking with you, Shane, man. Look into it. I'm going to look into that pyramid under underwater in Louisiana a little bit more. Dig into that. I'm super interested in them.

Speaker 1:
[47:16] Awesome, man. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of your time on the other side of the world. See you, man. All right. Incredible. We are going to get someone else in here now. Let's get to our next caller. We have familiar name, familiar face, Lord Awesome Sauce. Let's see what he has to say today. That was a great call. And now we are waiting on Lord Awesome Sauce. His mic is muted, but I'm sure he knows the deal. He'll be on any moment. Thank you all for joining us. What's up, dude? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:09] So what were we talking about?

Speaker 3:
[48:11] You're talking about real giants, fake dinosaurs, and what was the other?

Speaker 1:
[48:16] Carbon dating.

Speaker 3:
[48:19] Yeah, I think carbon dating is kind of BS.

Speaker 1:
[48:22] Agreed.

Speaker 3:
[48:25] Like, I mean, there's some sort of, you know, legitimacy to it, but I think that one guy, he's like a, you know, creationist, thinks that the Earth is only like, I do think the Earth is like billions of years old. So, and then tracing that stuff back to the Bible, that's just, that's just the stories that the Jews kind of tried to sort of find their backstory, because I'm sure that they were missing a lot of stuff. That's why they went up to, like, Persia, and talked to Zoroaster, and, or maybe not in Zoroaster, but Arian, I believe, is the...

Speaker 1:
[49:06] Wait, let's, let's, let's pause there for a sec, because I want to know why you believe in the Earth being billions of years old. Because I believe, if I remember correctly, you are a Christian, biblical, I don't know, literalist, perhaps, that's been the phrase of the day on the show. And as I consider myself, but I think it's where I think we're young Earth, you think old Earth, and what is, so you're, are you thinking that when they talk about creation, that each day of creation is much longer than the time we believe has 24 hours in a day?

Speaker 3:
[49:41] Well, the weird thing is, is, yeah, the 24 hours in the day thing, that's pretty, so I like to research like ancient civilizations and things like that. So that Atlantis, you know, we're able to find the time of the younger dryest period does coincide with the flooding or sinking of Atlantis. And that Atlantis was probably maybe a really, really long, long, long, long time ago. And they had a very, very long run. There's all sorts of concentric three ring circles in parts of Europe, parts of Africa, parts of Central and South America. And so yeah, I mean, I do think the earth is really, really old. However, I don't think you can use rocks to date rocks in a loose way. That Ken Han guy, he basically saw someone he knew, had some penguin skeletons, I believe. And they asked to carbon date the penguin skeletons. And the carbon dating came back, like they were like thousands of years old or possibly hundreds, hundreds to or thousands of years old. And it turns out they were just dead for about 40 years.

Speaker 1:
[51:18] I think this stuff is so inaccurate. I think a lot of the modern science is trying to re-create, re-write history, so they just make up things. And their science is biased towards wanting human history to be a certain age. Now, I think we're in Young Earth, but I just don't know anything. I'm just a little human. But I take it literally as like creation is a normal day. But I'm open to the idea of Earth being older. But I think even still, whether it's Young Earth or Old Earth, you can't dismiss the fact that ancient civilizations could have been technologically advanced and they could have been taken out by catastrophes. I mean, for sure, the flood, and the flood shows up in so many different cultures. The flood narrative is there. It's a thing. So, and which also, you know, the skeptics of carbon dating will use the flood as a way to disprove carbon dating, saying you can't determine what it was like before that, the antediluvian times.

Speaker 3:
[52:18] Right. Well, I mean, in regards to that, you have to keep in mind that a lot of those scientists back, so they're atheists, essentially. And the, but I do believe that they're actually an atheist, pretending to be an atheist, because, you know, you want to disprove God, you know, even though they're the flood story, over 200 some odd flood stories around the world, of the whole world being flooded at one point in time. You have, inside the earth, there is an Atlantic Ocean's worth of water stuck inside the earth. And it's liquid, there's so much pressure, and it's boiling hot water. And in the Bible, it says, you know, not only the waters came from the sky, but they also came from inside the earth. So we're talking like, you know, massive continental displacements crushing, you know, squeezing that earth, or the earth, and then squeezing the water out of it to make these massive geysers explode out of the earth. And then the ice age happens, which took a lot of that free fresh water and then covered the earth. So you have coastal, there's coastal cities being found all around the world where the coasts, they're about 150 to possibly 300 feet lower under the water.

Speaker 1:
[53:59] Dude, that's so funny. The caller right before you was talking about the city that the archaeologist claims to have found off the coast of Louisiana. That's they say is 12,000 year olds, 12,000 year olds, 12,000 years old. That's a completely different way of saying it. And he's called it Crescentus. Have you seen that story?

Speaker 3:
[54:18] No, that's brand new.

Speaker 1:
[54:20] It's fairly. Yeah. Yeah. This is more this article I'm looking at now is from March 26 of this year. And they're saying that there's a 280 foot pyramid there, hundreds of buried buildings. You know, I don't I'm not seeing any photos or anything, which I know in the age of AI, hard to know what's real, what's not anyway. But this is an amateur archaeologist, George Galay, who's saying that. And again, I don't know if you remember, but we were talking a while back on the show about how Galayne Maxwell was looking for ancient cities around the coast of Louisiana.

Speaker 3:
[54:51] Really? That's weird. Yeah, I don't recall that. But yeah, I mean, I just think the world's a bit older. Have you ever looked into Zechariah Sitchin's decodings?

Speaker 1:
[55:07] I haven't. Tell us.

Speaker 3:
[55:09] Okay. So he basically, you want to look at the The Lost Book of Anki and some of the other ancient Sumerian stuff that he was able to decode, and him and Jordan Maxwell, Sitchin confided to Jordan Maxwell that the Anunaki were in his room with him, helping him to decode the meanings of the cylinder or the tablets. So that's what his claim is, at least. And so basically, there's a guy on YouTube or maybe a certain channel, great reading voice, but he reads all the Sitchin books. So he tells the story of all the Anunaki. So it's a good listen if you've got something to do in the background. But essentially, they came from the 10th planet. And yes, to me, Pluto is still a planet.

Speaker 1:
[56:16] Yeah. You know, NASA said they might be bringing it back as a planet.

Speaker 3:
[56:20] Yeah. See, I think that was part of disinfo. Or a way to discredit the 10th planet theory. Because you eliminate that, and then all of a sudden, we have a mystery 10th planet out there. And then therefore, it would be 9 and no longer 10. You know, so like, you kind of get it. It's kind of confusing. But gosh, I feel like Ian right now.

Speaker 1:
[56:50] Are you high on mushrooms?

Speaker 3:
[56:54] Um, but yeah, so I think that was that was part of a specific thing to stop getting people, you know, to discredit the 10th planet theory.

Speaker 1:
[57:08] Can you can you talk more about the 10th planet theory?

Speaker 3:
[57:12] Yeah, so this is this is the Sumerian civilization tale. So the Anunnaki came from the 10th planet, and I'm blanking on the name right now. I used to know it. I think Nemesis is also a nickname for it. But essentially, they were out beyond an asteroid belt there. Their atmosphere was dying. They needed to somehow hold heat. And these beings, I think, they were said to be about 11 to 13 feet tall. And they came here. What's really cool is one of the ships. So there's two brothers, and they're kind of like princes. One was more war. His name was Enlil, and then the other one was more of a scientific mind. His name was Enki. And they were like half brothers or something. Enki was supposed to inherit the earth, and then Enlil did some like a backstabbing move to take control of it. And they're the ones that are said to breed us with the, like a rhesus monkey. That's why a lot of people around the earth have R-H. Which stands for Rhesus DNA. So, and then there's others that have R-H negative blood. And those are said to be possibly the Aryans, and which I don't know if you saw what I sent you last night. It was a very long, weird conversation, and I do apologize if you do read it. There's a lot of us.

Speaker 1:
[59:02] I didn't see anything.

Speaker 3:
[59:03] Okay, so there was a lot of ums and us. It's just basically a conversation I had with Grock yesterday. And I put in a lot of ums and us as space filler to prevent Grock from replying too quickly. So it's a little weird. And so, you know, but anyway, so Enki, his story is when he came here. Well, one of the fun stories is it talks about like the planets as their own entity gods. So they're, you know, every planet has like its own soul or or spirit to it and like consciousness. And then they talk about the two, two of the planets, like colliding into each other. But, you know, in the ancient terms, they would say like, you know, they battled type thing. And one of the planets, you know, got shattered and turned into one of the asteroid belts. And then another one between Earth and Mars. I can't remember if Earth was called Tiamat, or if Tiamat was in between Earth and Mars, or maybe it was past Mars. I can't remember. There's another asteroid belt by Mars. But one of the cool stories is they were talking about trying to get through like a ice asteroid field from the 10th planet to here. And they couldn't get through it, but what they did was they shot water out in space, which turned into like, you know, basically giant ice missiles. So like just that, like in the creation tales of the Sumerians, like, how could you like conceptualize that? How do you know space is really, really cold enough to, you know, turn water into ice instantly and use it as, you know, kind of like a ballistics missile? But anyway, I think he gets here, and he lands somewhere in, you know, the Middle East. And he basically, they say, he separated the waters. Basically, I think he did some sort of like, he constructed a dam or used some sort of technology to make, you know, saltwater. And then in the books, they call it sweet water. Our fresh water is sweet water in their books. So it basically tells the story of the same story in the Bible. So I just think people were trying to piece information together and they didn't really know what they were doing. But I do think the end in that conversation I had with Grock and the stories of the Giants, the biblical Nephilim, I also believe that they were also the Greek demigods.

Speaker 1:
[62:18] Dude, yes, I have been saying that to my kids. We were talking about the Odyssey. I do think that's true, dude.

Speaker 3:
[62:28] Yeah. Dude, did you ever watch the Odyssey movie with Armando Sante?

Speaker 1:
[62:37] I haven't, no.

Speaker 3:
[62:38] Okay, dude, it was like in the early 90s. It was really well done, really well done. It's looking better than this new Odyssey.

Speaker 1:
[62:48] I know, I know. I'm still gonna go see it. I'm not happy with some of the casting decisions, but I do like Nolan, some of his movies, and I'm gonna give it a try. I love the Odyssey. It's one of my favorite books, so I'm gonna try, but I'm sure I'm gonna be let down. But yeah, I know I haven't seen that original one, or that early one. I will have to look that up.

Speaker 3:
[63:08] Yeah. Yeah, I watched it a few years back. It was really, really fun. And, but yeah, I do think all the giants were real. I mean, Native Americans, they have stories about having to deal with giants that were in a cave. This one guy's wife or girlfriend at the time, she got swallowed whole or maybe not swallowed, but definitely gobbled up by one of the giants. And they, the tribe, like, I think a couple of tribes worked together. They dug a giant hole and caused the giant to chase after him. They covered the hole and then the giant fell in the hole. And then they, they, you know, pelted the giant with boulders and killed it. It was a red haired giant. And they cut and they rescued the girl by cutting her out of the stomach of the giant. And then other tribes called the giants the Cloud Eaters, which is a really cool name.

Speaker 1:
[64:05] Really cool name. Great band name, too.

Speaker 3:
[64:09] And then, yeah, they, they might be Cloud Eaters.

Speaker 1:
[64:13] There you go. Perfect. Nice. I see what you did there.

Speaker 3:
[64:20] And, but, but yeah, you know, there, there's all these, uh, you know, they call them giants' graves all around the world where they have, like, massive stones stacked, uh, I think to just keep the giants down, make sure their spirits don't ever get disturbed, because, um, in the, in the Catholic story, it's, uh, the demons, the demons that, um, affect us, you know, are the spirits of the giant nipple offspring.

Speaker 1:
[64:58] Are we there?

Speaker 3:
[64:59] Yeah, we're here now.

Speaker 1:
[65:00] Sorry, we lost you. I lost you for a second.

Speaker 3:
[65:03] Okay, so yeah, basically, you know, in the Catholic faith, the demons are the disembodied spirits of these old giants. And I have a, you know, I have a thing that, if you look at some of the old, the old, like Indian tales, you know, there's some giant gods in there. And, oh gosh, I had something and I freaking blanked it. But some of these ancient, like giants, these demigods or, Nephilim, if you want to call it, they, I don't think all of them hated us. So, some of them really, really liked the humans and cared for them. So you have, I can't remember if it's Aristotle, Socrates, or Plato, but one of them talked about having a daemon or a diamond. That's where we get the word daemon from, just a spirit with no body. And they were giving him information about how the world works, and how the sun makes plants grow, and everything like that. But, yeah, gosh, I'm getting frustrated because I had something that I wanted to talk about. Anyway, so fake dinosaurs, what's that?

Speaker 1:
[66:43] Fake dinosaurs. I was going to get into stories, real stories of museums apologizing for putting dinosaur bones on together, like having to swap out skulls or different feet, and the bones are all wrong, and also how a lot of the dinosaur bones we see at museums are just plaster, and just go through the history of science constantly changing the way that they view dinosaurs, and how all the dinosaurs we grew up at. I'm 41, so a lot of the dinosaurs that were on my bedsheets no longer exist, because they've been rebranded into new dinosaurs.

Speaker 3:
[67:20] Yeah, like the Brontosaurus is now a Patasaurus.

Speaker 1:
[67:23] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[67:25] There was some, they either wiped them from YouTube, or they're just really, really buried. Some people were doing some really great documentaries about how dinosaurs were actually dragons, or dragons were dinosaurs.

Speaker 1:
[67:42] Well, that's what I think. I do think that.

Speaker 3:
[67:45] Yeah, same with me. So, you know, you've got some of the medieval stuff where, you know, a knight is slaying a dinosaur, you know, a dragon slash dinosaur. And there's the famous story of Marco Polo when he went to China. The emperor, you know, they were talking about dragons. Dragons came up and the emperor said, oh, yes, I have dragons. They pull my chariot. And then they, you know, full on it. There's a there's the ancient silk embroidery pattern where it legitimately looks like two velociraptors are, you know, harnessed and, you know, strapped to a chariot.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] Yeah, there's just so much, I think, in our history that we don't know, and that has been purposefully hidden from us for all types of various reasons. But like what you're saying, I agree with the the scientists are secret Satanists. Not all, but a lot. And we see that throughout the ages, you know, with like the guy behind JPL, you know, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Parsons, you know, all those guys were just worshiping these crazy demons. I think that is in play today. We see it with NASA. That's my takeaway is with NASA is a lot of the stuff they do just seems like a bunch of fear rituals. And they name their stuff after a lot of the Egyptian gods that Parsons was worshiping.

Speaker 3:
[69:24] What is that? I do think a lot of the... Egypt was a... Have you ever heard of the... What's his name? He's like in the same style of Zechariah Sitchin and Jordan Maxwell. Klaus Donner, Klaus Donner, he's like an Austrian researcher.

Speaker 1:
[69:48] No, I haven't.

Speaker 3:
[69:50] He found something in... He found like this glowing 13-layered pyramid with an all-seeing eye on top of it. And it reacts under black light. There's actually a really cool documentary you can find of Klaus Donner talking about all these really, really cool stones that almost look like they were poured, they were casted to be made into instruments. Because they're so fine and precise. But he found somewhere, I think it was around Ecuador, there is a giant boulder and a cave. And the boulder is like a map of the world. And you can see North and South America on it. There is a island continent in between the Americas and the Eurasian African continent areas. And in it, there's a little pulsing eye pyramid on the, in where Egypt would be. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1:
[71:07] All right, I'll have to look that up. Man, that is crazy. Well, Jude, we have one more caller in here. Well, at the very end of that conversation with Lord Awesomesauce, my recording decided to just die. So I lost the very last part of that, but we were just saying goodbye. And I was about to go to Emily, but then Emily disappeared from the chat room. Emily, I am sorry. We had two great callers. I was looking forward to getting to you, but please do, if you're listening, call back tomorrow. Let's get back to giants and dinosaurs. I want to run through a few stories here before we wrap things up for the day. But thanks for the callers. You guys rule. We'll try to do this again tomorrow morning, 11 a.m. Eastern time. We will get to calls. So where did I leave off? Seven and 12-foot skeletons dug from mounds across the Midwest and the West. Right, we have Lovelock Cave in Nevada. Miners pulled out a six-foot, six-inch mummies with red hair plus giant sandals size 29. Potay legends called them red-haired cannibal giants. Don't trust those redheads. Don't trust them. Fix this camera here. Don't trust all. Are all redheads cannibals? Spirit cave mummies and other Nevada finds wrapped in fine textiles dated thousands of years old, some described as unusually tall. And now there's mound sites in Ohio, West Virginia and Illinois repeated reports of eight to nine foot skeletons with unusual skulls. We also have writers that argue the sheer volume of consistent reports across decades can all be mistakes in the Smithsonian's track record of collecting native remains while silencing giant stories points to deliberate suppression to protect the official human origins narrative. All right, I want to give you a few more examples of reports in the news. Now, look, we know the news is a lie. They lie a lot. So it is possible some of this is hoaxes, maybe all of it. But it's worth mentioning. You're going to see some well-known names here in terms of stories and newspapers and other not so well-known. We have May 5th, 1885 from the New York Times. Skeletons, seven feet long near Homer, Licking County, Ohio. Schoolboys opened a small mound and found four huge skeletons, three of which were over seven feet tall. Let me see here. What am I missing here? One skull was the size of a wooden bucket found on a stone floor with feet facing east plus polished stone vessels and weapons. December 20th, 1897, New York Times. Again, Wisconsin Mound opened. Maple Creek, Wisconsin. Skeleton in a mound measured over nine feet from head to foot. Skull as large as a half bushel measure. Copper rods and relics nearby mound was 10 feet high. August 27, 1891, New York Sun near Jordan River, Salt Lake City, Utah. Gigantic skeleton, eight feet, six inches tall. Skull, 11 inches in diameter, feet 19 inches long. May 31st, 1897, Public Ledger. You see how we're going. We're kind of in the late 1800s right now. There's a lot from the late 1800s. Also dates back to when I was looking at the Alex Jones story from Rockwall, Texas. Public Ledger in Maysville, Kentucky. This happened in Chillicothe, Ohio. Sorry if I'm saying that wrong, my friends in Ohio. Dr. Loveberry found 10 skeletons in two mounds, one giant, fully eight feet tall, described as the most notable find yet. April 14th, 1904, Iowa News Herald. Wolverton Farm near Tippecano, Tippecano, City, Ohio. Giant skeleton measuring eight feet from head to ankles. Feet were missing. Skull large enough to fit over an average man's head like a helmet. One of seven skeletons buried inside. I'd love to know if there are photos from that. Like, hey, this actually fits right over my head. 1892, we have Pittsburgh Dispatch in Pennsylvania. Two gigantic skeletons dug while making a ditch. One larger bones, only larger bones and skull remained. 1891, Burlington Hawkeye. I reported on this near New Carthage, Illinois. Almost perfect skeleton of a large man in a mound on Sweeney Farm. I love stories like this. Jim Vieira and Hugh Newman's book, Giants on Record, which we mentioned earlier in the show, catalogs over 1,500 such articles like those. Let's see here. Oh yeah, briefly, I pulled this up for everyone just briefly while we're talking about giants. We can't not talk about the Kandahar Giant. I'm sure most of you know it, but briefly to put it up in here with all these other stories, there's a more recent one. It's a claim from 2002, US Special Forces team searching for missing patrol in the mountains near Kandahar, Afghanistan, encountered a 12 to 13 foot tall red haired giant that killed a soldier named Dan with a spear and the team shot it dead with gunfire. The body, said to weigh about 1,100 pounds, was supposedly flown out in a cargo net and hidden. The giant had double rows of teeth, they say. They claim six fingers and toes and lived in a cave with human bones on the floor. In The Odyssey, it's a great story of the giants in the caves there. I highly recommend reading The Odyssey. It is one of the best stories ever written. And there's people obviously who this is fake, it's not real, it's real. I guess others will say they date back the earliest origin of this to Coast to Coast AM. And what was his name? Steve Quayle, I think in 2005 started popularizing the story. But then they'll say, oh, it was all anonymous people saying it and it was just to boost book sales or DVD sales. I think there's growing evidence that it could be reality. But again, I don't know. I will say, I do want to say, Snopes says this is entirely false. Okay. And if Snopes says it's fake, it must be real. I wanted to be a few more things here. I also pulled up these stories of dinosaurs. I just think they're interesting. And to keep in mind as we're talking about all this stuff, about history, bones, archaeology, the Smithsonian has made public corrections and apologies on several occasions, but not for deliberately lying about putting dinosaur bones together wrong. However, Museums Science updates are what have been happening when they take the Brontosaurus skull and realize, we put it on the wrong skeleton. They had the Camarasaurus style skull on the wrong bones. And that mistake lasted decades in museums and kids books until better fossils showed Brontosaurus actually had a long, low skull like a diplodocus, as you all know. These are all just fake made up names. The Smithsonian has written about the air openly in its own magazine. I'm just saying that because it's like it's not a complete cover up. I just think it's part of the humiliation ritual of making us believe that they're just putting puzzles together of fake bones and not letting us know that they're actually giant dragons and giants. Where I had it up here somewhere, they had some kind of like weird ceremony. Where is that? Here it is. In the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, it's in Pittsburgh from 1934 to 1979, they had a Camorosaurus skull on an Apatosaurus skeleton, and they held a public ceremony in 1979 to swap out the skulls for the correct Diplodocus style skull. And again, in all these writings I'm finding, they'd like to hyphenate it with style skull, because it's plaster. When they fixed their type specimen, every other museum using the same wrong head had to change theirs too. At some point, I might have to do a deep story, or a story about that day of the ceremony, and then this like country-wide ceremony of the swapping of the skulls. I think it's such an interesting image. All right, we can end up with the pros and cons of carbon dating. I want to get this out here. Oh yeah, I have something else too. There's so much. So I just wanted to put together arguments for carbon dating, and arguments against it, and just briefly, so we have that here. As we're talking about determining and or redefining ancient history, deep human history, earth history for it. A lot of these scientists today and experts who defend carbon dating are mostly, obviously, physicists, chemists, geologists, archaeologists, statisticians working in labs worldwide. And the method is, it was invented by Willard Libby, a University of Chicago chemist who won the 1960 Nobel Prize. It measures the decay of carbon-14 in organic material. Inorganic material, not inorganic material. It works reliably, they say, for up to about 50,000 to 60,000 years with heavy calibration against tree rings, corals, and other known age records. So from Libby and his team at Chicago, they proved the method by dating artifacts with known historical ages like Egyptian artifacts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, which I just saw at the Museum of the Bible, for me, history. They showed atmospheric C-14 levels were consistent globally. Modern refinements use accelerator mass spectrometry for tiny samples and get dates accurate in decades of recent stuff. Christopher Bronk Ramsey is a professor at Oxford and director of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit. You think he's going to be biased about how this stuff works? Maybe not, maybe so. He leads this modeling that combines the C-14 dates with archaeological context for tighter timelines. He helped date Egyptian dynasties and refine the int cal curves used by every major lab. Paula Reimer at Int Cal Working Group, and that's dozens of scientists from 27 countries around the world, she helped build the official calibration curves using tree rings to date back to 14,000 years, while also using coral. Greg Davidson, he's a geology professor, and Ken Wogmuth, who's an adjunct professor. They use tree rings and lake varves, and C-14 all cross-check each other, ruling out any recent global flood messing up the ratios. So that's going to come into play when we go into the people who are skeptical of carbon dating and the way they use the flood narrative against the measure of time. They rebut young Earth claims point by point, measurable C-14 in ancient samples is either contamination, background noise. It doesn't mean coal is 40,000 years old, is what the skeptics will say. So the skeptics are saying that, according to them, the atmosphere isn't in equilibrium. Production of carbon-14 exceeds its decay by about 30 percent today. Dr. Willard Libby, who invented the method, saw this mismatch but assumed this is according to the skeptics, but assumed the Earth was billions of years old, so it had time to balance out. Skeptics say if it's still out of whack, the Earth can't be that old and dates based on a constant ratio are wrong. Earth's magnetic field was stronger in the past, a stronger field blocked more cosmic rays, so less carbon-14 formed. Samples from back then look like they've had more time to decay than they really did, making them seem older than they are. Measurements show the field has been decaying, consistent with a young Earth under 10,000 years. And if you've been paying attention to this whole episode, we've had callers who have different interpretations of the age of history. This is, I think, one of the more interesting conversations and debates. How old is this rock that we're on? I love thinking about that. The Genesis Flood buried Massive, Massive, that's as good as Spatulites from yesterday. Massive biomass. It locked away huge amounts of C12, dropping to the C14 to C12 ratio dramatically. Post-flood organisms would inherit a much lower starting ratio. So today's measurements make them look thousands or tens of thousands of years older than their true age, potentially off by a factor of 10, according to the skeptics. So, a broader critique I have here from biblicalgeology.net, all radioactive dating assumes you know the starting amounts and that rates never changed, assumptions no one witnessed. Without that, you can get any date you want, depending on your model. Confirmation bias, that's baked into the algorithms, it's baked into the technology and to the theories of the people who want this to be the true nature of history. So, those are the opposing views of carbon dating. Tomorrow, we're going to be getting into Bigfoot. 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