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Speaker 1:
[00:00] From is on Sundays on MGM+. In a small, inescapable town, understanding the monsters may be the only way out. Desperate hope may lead residents toward even darker truths. I think they're doing it to make us afraid.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 6:
[01:40] And Ash.

Speaker 7:
[02:11] Hey, Screamers, I'm a ghost that's gonna punch a picture of you and your boyfriend, because I hate men.

Speaker 6:
[02:16] I'm a Ouija board on fire.

Speaker 8:
[02:18] I'm a random beading craft table in the corner, and this is Scream.

Speaker 6:
[02:24] No, this is Ash and Alaina torturing me with movies that they know I hate.

Speaker 7:
[02:28] No, we didn't, actually, she didn't even do that on purpose.

Speaker 8:
[02:31] I did not.

Speaker 7:
[02:31] We finished it, and I was like, oh, Caleb hates this movie, doesn't he?

Speaker 8:
[02:34] Yeah, and I said, he probably does.

Speaker 6:
[02:35] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 8:
[02:36] And then you said, I hate this movie, and I said I knew it.

Speaker 6:
[02:38] I have had it on record for years and this is probably one of my least favorite movies ever created.

Speaker 7:
[02:43] That's crazy. I cannot believe this, that I'm saying this, but this is the first time I've ever seen this movie, and I really liked it.

Speaker 6:
[02:50] I, one, can't believe that this is the first time you've ever seen Paranormal Activity. I, two, cannot believe that you love this.

Speaker 7:
[02:57] You really can't?

Speaker 6:
[02:58] No, actually, not at all. I'm very genuinely surprised. I thought that you were going to hate it.

Speaker 7:
[03:02] No, I thought it was really good. I was actually really scared. I just moved into a new house, and that was like the worst timing to watch this, because I was like, what if this shit's haunted?

Speaker 8:
[03:10] What if this is diamonds? I saw this in theaters.

Speaker 6:
[03:13] I also saw this in theaters.

Speaker 8:
[03:15] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[03:16] What year did this come out? Was it like, 2006?

Speaker 6:
[03:18] 2007.

Speaker 8:
[03:19] Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[03:20] You saw this in theaters? You were like, weren't you like 10?

Speaker 6:
[03:24] Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 8:
[03:25] God damn.

Speaker 6:
[03:26] Bro. I think it was very tame for my age.

Speaker 8:
[03:31] My kids would never sleep for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 7:
[03:34] I'm almost a 30-year-old woman, and I really had a couple struggles throughout the night.

Speaker 8:
[03:39] For a couple of nights, you were like, I am struggling.

Speaker 7:
[03:41] It freaked me out a little bit. Just falling asleep. Once I fall asleep, I am good.

Speaker 8:
[03:47] Because it's subtle. It's got subtle but good scares, I think.

Speaker 6:
[03:52] I would say definitely subtle, as in nothing happens in this movie the entire time. It's basically like watching a sleep simulator. Like I basically just watched a couple sleep for an hour and a half.

Speaker 8:
[04:03] Nah. No way.

Speaker 7:
[04:06] But spooky things happen when they sleep.

Speaker 8:
[04:08] No way, Jose.

Speaker 7:
[04:08] And that's the scariest thing of all. Yes, really.

Speaker 8:
[04:11] So many spooky things.

Speaker 6:
[04:12] I can like...

Speaker 7:
[04:13] They get into bed with her at one point.

Speaker 6:
[04:15] I could say that you can sign all this off to your house creaking.

Speaker 7:
[04:20] No, footprints?

Speaker 8:
[04:21] You can't.

Speaker 6:
[04:22] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[04:22] And like a shadow walking across the door. Oh, and being yanked out of bed, dragged down the hallway.

Speaker 7:
[04:28] That's just your house creaking?

Speaker 6:
[04:30] Look, that's the one thing that happens in this movie that's slightly scary and it's at the end of the movie.

Speaker 8:
[04:36] That is really scary when she gets pulled out of bed.

Speaker 7:
[04:39] Clearly, you're not a woman. And that's how I know.

Speaker 8:
[04:49] Like, that's the reason.

Speaker 7:
[04:52] I feel like it's scary. We're more pullable.

Speaker 6:
[04:56] I was going to say, is it any different if a man got dragged out of the bed?

Speaker 7:
[05:01] No, but you're harder to drag out of bed.

Speaker 2:
[05:03] Clearly, you've never been pulled out of bed by a dark entity, OK?

Speaker 8:
[05:07] Clearly, you don't have that woman experience.

Speaker 7:
[05:09] You don't know what it's like to be a woman. We got dragged, man.

Speaker 8:
[05:14] By dark entities in our house. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:19] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[05:21] You know what is one thing, though, that I think we can all agree on?

Speaker 2:
[05:25] What?

Speaker 8:
[05:26] Micah is the most bullshit person in the entire world.

Speaker 6:
[05:30] I also hate that his name isn't Micah. Thank you.

Speaker 7:
[05:33] Oh, my God.

Speaker 6:
[05:34] It bothers me so much.

Speaker 7:
[05:35] It makes me so upset. I was like, why the fuck is this man not being referred to as Micah?

Speaker 8:
[05:41] And that's the real like that. And I think his name is his name is Micah. And then her name is Katie.

Speaker 7:
[05:50] His name is Micah, and he said, let's switch it up a little bit.

Speaker 8:
[05:53] I don't know if he pronounced it Micah in real life.

Speaker 6:
[05:55] Yeah, I'm not sure how he pronounces it. But I think however he does, it's wrong.

Speaker 7:
[05:59] Agreed.

Speaker 8:
[06:00] It's wrong how you pronounce your name. It just throws me off every time because I'd be writing it or saying something to Ash. And I was like, oh, it annoys me when Micah does it. And then I'm like, Micah, Micah, when Micah does this. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 7:
[06:13] It's like that insurance place, Amica.

Speaker 8:
[06:15] Amica. It's true.

Speaker 6:
[06:18] It's like I don't like the guy's name.

Speaker 8:
[06:20] I don't like the guy.

Speaker 7:
[06:22] I don't like either of those things.

Speaker 8:
[06:23] Maybe the actor is lovely, but damn.

Speaker 7:
[06:25] He plays a good douchebag.

Speaker 8:
[06:26] A shitty character.

Speaker 7:
[06:28] He plays a good douchebag.

Speaker 8:
[06:30] He does play a good douchebag.

Speaker 7:
[06:31] A lot of times, though, they do say that people, I think I say this on every episode of Scream, the nicest people play the meanest people. I say this like once a week.

Speaker 8:
[06:41] You say this like once a week.

Speaker 7:
[06:42] I'm like, justice for people in mean roles, because I'm at their real nice in life.

Speaker 8:
[06:46] They are.

Speaker 7:
[06:48] Like Rachel McAdams. It's always the example.

Speaker 2:
[06:50] And I think that's who you want me to point to.

Speaker 6:
[06:52] Well, on that, this movie was written and directed by Oren Pelley. He has not done much aside from Paranormal Activity. He wrote and directed The Activity. He wrote and directed Area 51. He also produced on Lords of Salem and Insidious Chapter 2 and 3. But as far as the things that he wrote and directed, it's pretty much just Paranormal Activity in Area 51.

Speaker 7:
[07:16] I've never seen Area 51.

Speaker 8:
[07:17] Get it, Oren.

Speaker 6:
[07:18] As for the cast, the cast is pretty much just Katie and Mika.

Speaker 7:
[07:22] She has a friend one time.

Speaker 6:
[07:24] She does have a friend one time.

Speaker 8:
[07:27] And Dr. Frederick. Don't you ever forget him.

Speaker 7:
[07:29] I love him.

Speaker 6:
[07:30] There is Dr. Frederick.

Speaker 8:
[07:32] I love him.

Speaker 6:
[07:32] They're really just like side pieces in the whole thing, though, because 95% of the movie is just Katie and Mika.

Speaker 8:
[07:39] That's Mika. And the demon. Don't forget him.

Speaker 7:
[07:41] And the demon.

Speaker 6:
[07:42] And the demon.

Speaker 8:
[07:43] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[07:44] He who shall not and is not ever named.

Speaker 8:
[07:47] Which is unfortunate.

Speaker 6:
[07:48] Katie and Mika are played respectively by Katie Featherston and Mika Slote. Katie came back for Paranormal Activity 2, 3, 4, and The Marked Ones. Mika returns in 2, The Marked Ones and Beyond Ritual. And both of the main actors, Katie and Mika, only received $500 initially for their roles.

Speaker 7:
[08:09] Yeah, but then they renegotiated.

Speaker 6:
[08:11] They did renegotiate.

Speaker 8:
[08:12] They're business people.

Speaker 7:
[08:13] Also, shout out to Katie. She's a fan of our other show, The Rewatcher, which you should all be listening to.

Speaker 6:
[08:18] Okay, shout out Katie. She has good taste.

Speaker 7:
[08:21] It also helped cure me of my scaredy-cat-ness.

Speaker 8:
[08:25] It's true, because we said Katie's okay.

Speaker 7:
[08:27] Yeah, she's a lot.

Speaker 8:
[08:28] She listens to The Rewatcher.

Speaker 7:
[08:29] Katie ruined it for you guys, but Katie is real and thriving.

Speaker 2:
[08:32] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[08:33] She's very much around. I mean, she was in a lot of Paranormal Activities. I always forget how many Paranormal Activity movies there are until I talk about Paranormal Activity.

Speaker 7:
[08:43] How many are there?

Speaker 2:
[08:44] There's a lot.

Speaker 6:
[08:44] A lot.

Speaker 8:
[08:45] I think it would be fun to run them through.

Speaker 6:
[08:48] No, no, no.

Speaker 7:
[08:49] I'm so down. I'm so down. I want to at least do the second one, because Alaina said the second one's good.

Speaker 8:
[08:55] It's fun.

Speaker 7:
[08:55] I trust her judgment. I liked the first one.

Speaker 6:
[08:58] I'm going to torture you guys with the worst movies I can possibly think of.

Speaker 8:
[09:02] That's okay, because between that, we'll do the Paranormal Activities. I'll just keep picking Paranormal Activities. You can pick regular ones and then Caleb can torture us all.

Speaker 7:
[09:11] No, there's something for everybody.

Speaker 1:
[09:12] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[09:13] I got the next movie, and the next movie is going to be torture. I'm not even going to enjoy it.

Speaker 7:
[09:19] Wait, what's the point of that?

Speaker 9:
[09:21] I'm not even going to enjoy it.

Speaker 8:
[09:22] I'm doing what I have to do.

Speaker 7:
[09:24] No.

Speaker 6:
[09:26] I'm doing what needs to be done.

Speaker 7:
[09:27] Then I'll do 50 Shades Darker.

Speaker 6:
[09:30] That I'm okay with.

Speaker 8:
[09:31] No. Lord help me.

Speaker 7:
[09:32] I'm not even okay with that.

Speaker 8:
[09:34] I'm not okay with that.

Speaker 7:
[09:35] When you're a parent and you don't want to actually take that thing away.

Speaker 6:
[09:38] Wasn't there going to be ninjas eventually or something like that?

Speaker 7:
[09:41] I don't know. I never saw it.

Speaker 6:
[09:43] I'm ready for those.

Speaker 7:
[09:44] Remember when we did 50 Shades of Grey? Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[09:47] Yeah, that was pretty fire.

Speaker 7:
[09:48] Please don't torture us. I hate it.

Speaker 6:
[09:50] I gotta do what I gotta do.

Speaker 7:
[09:52] But I got these cool glasses.

Speaker 6:
[09:57] Ash is doing this entire episode with digital glasses on.

Speaker 7:
[10:02] I'll send you a picture that you can use for the episode.

Speaker 6:
[10:05] So the budget for this movie was roughly $15,000. It made $193 million at the box office, which is just insane. I mean, the effect this movie had on the world was crazy.

Speaker 8:
[10:20] It deserves it.

Speaker 7:
[10:21] It does.

Speaker 6:
[10:22] I don't agree with that part.

Speaker 8:
[10:24] It's got the spooky-oogie factor.

Speaker 6:
[10:27] It has a factor to it.

Speaker 8:
[10:29] It has many factors, I would say.

Speaker 6:
[10:30] It has at least a factor to it. I'll give it that.

Speaker 8:
[10:32] At least one factor or two.

Speaker 6:
[10:35] My favorite part of this movie was the advertisement for it. I think I talked about this on the Horror Soup episode of Paranormal Activity, but the trailer for this movie made it seem like it was the scariest movie to ever be invented. Yes.

Speaker 8:
[10:48] I remember it showed people puking in the audience.

Speaker 7:
[10:51] Yeah. It was like people got carried out.

Speaker 6:
[10:54] Yeah. Puking, screaming, doing all that stuff, like crying and all that. But it's really funny because me and James came to the conclusion that the only reason the trailers were so scary is because you couldn't pause trailers at that time. You weren't really looking at trailers on YouTube or anything and able to rewind them and look at it. It was just fast cuts of everything. And when you go back and you look at the Paranormal Activity trailer on YouTube, you can see that there's just one person in the audience that looks scared and it's usually a 90-year-old woman. It's like a 90-year-old woman that's very horrified by what's going on and everyone else is just straight-faced or looking very confused. And that's my favorite part of the advertisement for this movie.

Speaker 8:
[11:38] It is scary. It's a scary movie.

Speaker 7:
[11:41] It's scary. I'm not shitting, crying or throwing up, but it's definitely scary.

Speaker 8:
[11:45] I can't tell you.

Speaker 6:
[11:46] I'd be very concerned if either of you were in that state watching this movie.

Speaker 7:
[11:49] If either of us are shitting, crying or throwing up.

Speaker 6:
[11:52] For sure. The movie is somehow rated R.

Speaker 7:
[11:57] That actually is crazy. I'll give you that. Did they just swear a lot?

Speaker 8:
[12:01] Well, and there's blood at the end.

Speaker 7:
[12:02] Not a lot, though. It's also in black and white.

Speaker 6:
[12:04] I think they probably just said fuck a couple of times.

Speaker 8:
[12:07] They said fuck a lot.

Speaker 7:
[12:08] Yeah, I think that's what it was.

Speaker 8:
[12:09] She gets mad and she starts dropping F-bombs.

Speaker 7:
[12:12] I would have been real pissed.

Speaker 6:
[12:14] Yeah, that's really the only reason this movie is rated R, because nothing in the movie happens that would be like graphic or glory or like anything of the sort.

Speaker 7:
[12:22] That is a little bit fair. I'll give you that.

Speaker 8:
[12:24] That's fair.

Speaker 7:
[12:25] Feel like broken arm or something.

Speaker 6:
[12:28] Rotten Tomatoes Critics has this movie at an 82 percent. The audience has it at a 57 percent. IMDB is 6.3 out of 10, and Letterboxd has it at a 2.9 out of 5.

Speaker 7:
[12:38] Letterboxd, duh.

Speaker 8:
[12:39] Letterboxd is always the tough one.

Speaker 2:
[12:41] It is.

Speaker 6:
[12:42] It should be lower. That's pure nostalgia ratings.

Speaker 7:
[12:46] No. That's people like us who have taste.

Speaker 6:
[12:50] Let's just go ahead and change the dynamic of this episode a little bit. I want you guys to give me your ratings for this movie right now.

Speaker 7:
[12:57] Really?

Speaker 6:
[12:58] Yeah. I wanted at the very beginning.

Speaker 8:
[13:00] I think this movie, for me, I think it's a 4.

Speaker 7:
[13:05] I was going to say 4.5.

Speaker 8:
[13:06] 4.5, because it has rewatchability to me, like crazy.

Speaker 7:
[13:11] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[13:12] You can rewatch this movie?

Speaker 7:
[13:14] Yeah. I would totally watch this again.

Speaker 6:
[13:16] I would love to fall asleep to this movie.

Speaker 8:
[13:19] I think it's scary.

Speaker 7:
[13:20] I would not be falling asleep to this shit.

Speaker 8:
[13:22] I like Katie.

Speaker 7:
[13:23] I like Katie.

Speaker 8:
[13:24] I get excited to watch Mika get his comeuppance. Yeah. I love Dr. Frederick and how he says, I got to get out of here right now. I'm not helping y'all. I like it.

Speaker 7:
[13:36] I'm into it.

Speaker 6:
[13:37] Yeah. This is a half-star movie easily.

Speaker 7:
[13:39] You're crazy. You're crazy for that.

Speaker 6:
[13:42] I would give this a negative 500 if I can. Can I give this a negative 500? Because I will.

Speaker 7:
[13:47] No. It's not in our rating system.

Speaker 8:
[13:49] You're not allowed to.

Speaker 7:
[13:49] Your cat is hitting you in the face right now.

Speaker 8:
[13:51] Yeah. Your cat said, you shut your mouth.

Speaker 7:
[13:53] It's like Kira. No, that's George.

Speaker 2:
[13:55] George knows what's up.

Speaker 8:
[13:56] I know. George said, you shut your mouth.

Speaker 7:
[13:58] He said, shut your whore mouth, dad.

Speaker 2:
[14:01] He's Mr. Gorg.

Speaker 6:
[14:02] No, he hates his movie just as much as me.

Speaker 8:
[14:04] Mr. Gorg.

Speaker 7:
[14:04] No, Gorg would fuck so heavy with this movie.

Speaker 8:
[14:07] Gorg loves it.

Speaker 7:
[14:08] He said, back up off me.

Speaker 8:
[14:09] Lookit, he said, I want to hear this.

Speaker 7:
[14:10] He's out of here.

Speaker 6:
[14:11] Well, with that, Alaina, let's go ahead and narrate the worst movie ever.

Speaker 8:
[14:15] I'm ready to.

Speaker 7:
[14:16] The best movie.

Speaker 8:
[14:17] I love a found footage movie. I love when a movie starts with a title card that says, thank you to the families and the police for providing us with this footage, because I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 7:
[14:26] Yeah, that's when you know that shit's about to pop off.

Speaker 8:
[14:29] So we immediately meet Mika. He's an asshole, pretty much right off the bat, who has a home in San Diego with his girlfriend, Katie. He's purchased a giant new camera to document strange, weird shit that's been going on in their house.

Speaker 7:
[14:43] It is such a big camera.

Speaker 8:
[14:44] It's so huge. It's like a Steven Spielberg camera. It's like the one my dad had when I was growing up. But a time card says September 18th, 2006, and Katie shows up at the house in a cute little convertible. We love Katie. We get them being cute and flirty with each other for a little bit. She's like, wow, that's a huge camera with a big ass light, but she's pretty chill. She could be a lot more annoyed by him sticking that in her face.

Speaker 7:
[15:09] Yeah, it's a big camera.

Speaker 8:
[15:11] I would not stand for it. Now, what's funny about this is you get to see in the beginning, they're super cute and flirty with each other, and obviously things are going well and blah, blah, blah. As this movie goes, they devolve as a couple so gnarly. At the end, you're just like, get away from each other, you hate each other. Yeah, they do. They discuss why he got the camera, and he mentions that they could capture Paranormal Activity for posterity. She's like, oh cool, so we can look back at it fondly?

Speaker 7:
[15:43] Why would we do that?

Speaker 8:
[15:45] During this discussion, we find out that whatever is haunting them has been haunting Katie specifically since she was like eight years old.

Speaker 7:
[15:52] That shit I thought was crazy, and I think the way they do it is so smart because there's no escaping it.

Speaker 8:
[15:58] Because otherwise, this whole movie, you're sitting there going, just leave the house, get the fuck out of the house. But everyone around her is telling her it's going to follow you no matter what, so you can't leave.

Speaker 7:
[16:08] I'm kind of obsessed with that.

Speaker 8:
[16:09] I love it. I thought it was smart. Because that really is one of the problems with like found footage like Paranormal kind of things like this, because like halfway, like 10 minutes in, you're like, just leave the house. Like, why are you staying there?

Speaker 6:
[16:21] I think they should have just put Katie in a box.

Speaker 8:
[16:23] Not Katie.

Speaker 6:
[16:24] I think they should just put her in a box and then just let the demon haunt her.

Speaker 8:
[16:26] Nobody puts Katie in a box.

Speaker 7:
[16:28] I feel like the demon would have just like thrown the box around.

Speaker 8:
[16:31] Yeah, the demon would have found her in the box.

Speaker 7:
[16:33] We would not have had a movie.

Speaker 8:
[16:34] He would have just been in the box with her and that's no good for anybody. Now, Mika does a lot of audio testing and such while she's crafting with her beads. And I actually appreciate this part. I know it like starts a little slow here, but it's just her doing like her grandma hobbies, which we love.

Speaker 7:
[16:51] She has a lot of them.

Speaker 8:
[16:52] And I know she really does.

Speaker 7:
[16:54] Yeah. I was like, she does something other than beads.

Speaker 8:
[16:56] I think she's like knitting.

Speaker 7:
[16:58] Yeah, at one point she is knitting. I thought that that was going to come back around and that somebody was going to get stabbed with those needles, I will say.

Speaker 8:
[17:04] That would have been pretty sick.

Speaker 6:
[17:05] Yeah, why didn't anything like that ever happen in the movie?

Speaker 7:
[17:07] Because it's subtle.

Speaker 8:
[17:08] Because real paranormal activity isn't that insane, period.

Speaker 7:
[17:12] It would be subtle.

Speaker 8:
[17:14] This is when he first asks if there's anything that he can do to make the activity happen. And he's already super keen to piss it off. And Katie makes it clear that if they catch something on camera, that's fine. But she does not want to make it mad. She does not want to entice it to come out. Like she's smart. She's like, let's not piss this thing off. Now while they're hanging out together, like more grandma activities for Katie, she's crocheting at this point. Amika is strumming a guitar. There's a quiet knocking that they can both hear. And they're just kind of like, they just stop for a second and listen to it, and they're like, what the fuck's that? So that night, they set the camera up facing their bed in the hallway, you can see.

Speaker 7:
[17:50] I could not sleep with a camera like that facing my bed.

Speaker 8:
[17:53] No, and she's on the side next to the door.

Speaker 7:
[17:55] Which is insane.

Speaker 8:
[17:56] And they only have a sheet on. I'm like, none of this is okay.

Speaker 7:
[17:59] Debouchery.

Speaker 8:
[18:01] This is out of the normal order of things. First of all, this is just how I do things. John is always gonna sleep near the door. Yeah. You know, it's always gonna happen. And also having the door wide open when you don't have kids, like you don't need the door open.

Speaker 7:
[18:15] She might have cats, but they don't even.

Speaker 8:
[18:16] They don't. I know. They don't have any animals or anything. I'm like, shut that door, babe. Shut the door and lock it. What are you doing letting demons walk freely into your bedroom?

Speaker 7:
[18:25] Had to be a slow build, so they had to leave it open.

Speaker 8:
[18:27] I know.

Speaker 7:
[18:28] Correct.

Speaker 8:
[18:29] And I know they're in California, but I'm like, just a sheet?

Speaker 7:
[18:32] They can't afford air conditioning yet.

Speaker 8:
[18:34] They're young. Like, what?

Speaker 6:
[18:36] Honestly, though, just a sheet in California is pretty valid. You're really hung up on this sheet thing.

Speaker 8:
[18:41] I'm really upset about the sheet.

Speaker 7:
[18:42] I could never sleep with just a sheet.

Speaker 8:
[18:43] Yeah, I could never.

Speaker 6:
[18:44] Even if it's hot, dude, it gets like 110 in San Diego.

Speaker 7:
[18:48] That's why you're 65. You're a C doll.

Speaker 8:
[18:50] That's why you live in New England. It's what you do.

Speaker 7:
[18:54] Caleb is going to live in Massachusetts soon.

Speaker 6:
[18:55] On my way, fellas.

Speaker 8:
[18:57] On his way. You heard here.

Speaker 7:
[19:00] Send him on his way. On his way.

Speaker 6:
[19:02] Anyone want to buy a termite infested house?

Speaker 7:
[19:05] Yeah, you do.

Speaker 6:
[19:07] Anyone listening want to fund my trip to Massachusetts and buy my termite infested house?

Speaker 7:
[19:12] Hey, Caleb lived there. It has his soup vibes.

Speaker 8:
[19:15] It has his scent.

Speaker 6:
[19:17] It has my scent is crazy. If someone's buying my house for my scent, I don't want them to buy my house, actually.

Speaker 7:
[19:22] But you could get to Massachusetts. This could be your ticket out.

Speaker 8:
[19:25] Oh my God. Sound footage.

Speaker 10:
[19:27] Sound footage.

Speaker 8:
[19:31] Now, let's go to night one, shall we?

Speaker 7:
[19:34] We shall.

Speaker 8:
[19:35] Night one, we get weird humming, we get creaking, we get thumping. Then clearly, we hear like a thing of keys dropped downstairs. Now, when they wake up, her keys are on the floor in the middle of the kitchen, and they're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 7:
[19:51] That was a pretty active night for night one.

Speaker 8:
[19:53] It was, and it would fuck me up.

Speaker 7:
[19:55] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8:
[19:57] And when they wake up and see the keys, I think he says something almost like, did you put them there? And she's like, how would I put my keys in the middle of the fucking kitchen?

Speaker 7:
[20:05] That's when I said, I hate this.

Speaker 8:
[20:07] Shut up.

Speaker 7:
[20:07] Are you sure you didn't put them there? Oh, on the floor?

Speaker 8:
[20:10] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[20:10] Maybe you're right. Maybe I did decide to change things up. Maybe you're right, Mika Mika, okay.

Speaker 8:
[20:15] But they have a psychic coming, Dr. Friedrich, and Mika is not taking it seriously at all.

Speaker 7:
[20:21] He's a little jackass.

Speaker 8:
[20:23] Mika is dismissive of Katie throughout this entire movie.

Speaker 7:
[20:27] Which is crazy.

Speaker 8:
[20:28] Everything she wants, needs, asks for, everything.

Speaker 7:
[20:32] It's crazy too because you're witnessing everything that's happening, so you know it's not fake, but you are being super dismissive.

Speaker 8:
[20:40] Exactly.

Speaker 6:
[20:40] That is fair because they've also been together for some time, it seems. I don't know how long they've been together, but it seems like he should be well aware of what's going on at this point.

Speaker 7:
[20:48] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[20:49] I think they just moved in together. I think that's new.

Speaker 7:
[20:52] He gets like pissy with her too and is like, oh, tell me right away that you were haunted.

Speaker 8:
[20:56] And it's like, what exactly do you want me to say?

Speaker 6:
[20:59] To be fair, I would also be pissed if my partner didn't tell me right away they were haunted.

Speaker 7:
[21:04] Well, you got to lock it down.

Speaker 8:
[21:06] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[21:07] What's a girl to do?

Speaker 8:
[21:09] Lock them down first.

Speaker 6:
[21:11] If you're trying to lock it down and you're not telling me that you're haunted, I am going to be a little pissed. Like that's information that I deserve to know.

Speaker 7:
[21:17] How is a haunted girl to lock it down? But I do wonder.

Speaker 6:
[21:22] She needs to find a haunted guy.

Speaker 7:
[21:23] I'm still wondering if this is like an environment that the demon is creating, like kind of like building it a little bit.

Speaker 8:
[21:31] Oh, I think 100 percent they move in together because it said that the demon can like go dormant for a little while and she said that. She's like, it's periodically.

Speaker 7:
[21:41] Right.

Speaker 8:
[21:41] Like moments. It's not all the time. So I think them moving in together, he was like, oh, he he he. I can make them hate each other and then this all this negative bullshit energy will be in the house and I can feed on it.

Speaker 7:
[21:54] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[21:55] And then I can get super strong. I totally think that's part of it, which I love how the demon knew before they did that they could never live together. Do like the demon was like, Mika is going to piss you off so much. It's going to make you so pissed that all this negative, gnarly energy is going to be in the air.

Speaker 6:
[22:10] You guys are writing a movie that wasn't even written.

Speaker 2:
[22:13] Yes, it was.

Speaker 7:
[22:14] We're experts on demons.

Speaker 6:
[22:16] No, because this movie was literally not written.

Speaker 8:
[22:19] It was. It's implied. Actually, no, it's kind of stated.

Speaker 2:
[22:22] It's a little bit stated.

Speaker 6:
[22:24] You know that there wasn't a script for this movie either?

Speaker 8:
[22:27] No.

Speaker 7:
[22:27] I kind of love that.

Speaker 8:
[22:28] They just were told what is supposed to happen, and then they just were able to go for it.

Speaker 7:
[22:33] That's actually very impressive.

Speaker 8:
[22:35] That's why a lot of the things do come off kind of real, because it really is good reactions. So, Dr. Friedrich comes, and so she tells him that this whole thing started when she was eight. She shared a room with her sister, Christy, who was five. She would wake up to breathing. She would see a big shadow at the foot of her bed, and she said that first house burnt down in a fire, and they lost everything. But they never figured out what happened, what the cause of the fire was, and even after an investigation, the fire department said it wasn't electrical or anything that they could really point to. She said she never thought it was connected to the haunting. She just thought it was weird. But she says the haunting has followed her when she moves, and it's been picking up in the last few weeks. She said it's periodic, and it just last few weeks since they've moved there, it's really picked up.

Speaker 7:
[23:27] That would suck so bad that you just couldn't outrun it.

Speaker 8:
[23:31] Well, and Dr. Friedrich is like, okay, so this is connected to you specifically. And she leads him around the house, telling him the kitchen lights will flicker, the faucet goes on and off by itself, banging on the walls, scratching sounds. And Dr. Friedrich walks into their bedroom and immediately says, like doesn't ask, he's just like, most of the activity is in here. Like he's just like, yeah, I can feel it. He just knows. And so she tells him he's correct. And what she's heard there is she hears like whispering that she can't really understand what they're saying, but sometimes she can hear very clearly her name. And Mika says, he's heard some weird things, but never someone saying Katie's name. And then in true Mika fashion, to make Katie look dumb, he says that it's probably just him saying her name in his sleep.

Speaker 7:
[24:16] I'm like, dude, you experienced the same shit as her. Why are you trying to like minimize it?

Speaker 8:
[24:21] Well, luckily, Katie is like, hey, dumbass, I know the difference between you saying my name and a random demon whispering it in my ear.

Speaker 7:
[24:28] Yeah, sounds different, but.

Speaker 8:
[24:29] As closely related as those two things might seem, Mika and a fucking demon whispering, I know the difference. So, Dr. Friedrich looks concerned about the cameras. He's like, and he kind of looks at, he looks at Mika, I almost said Mika.

Speaker 7:
[24:44] I know.

Speaker 8:
[24:45] He looks at Mika like, I can see that you're going to be a problem kind of thing.

Speaker 2:
[24:49] What did you just look at?

Speaker 8:
[24:51] What?

Speaker 7:
[24:52] Something was like.

Speaker 8:
[24:52] Don't do this.

Speaker 7:
[24:53] No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not even with you.

Speaker 2:
[24:56] Don't do this, he says.

Speaker 7:
[24:58] I just heard a weird sound.

Speaker 8:
[25:00] Where?

Speaker 7:
[25:01] Over there. It almost sounded like somebody like touched the fan or like it creaked almost.

Speaker 6:
[25:06] You guys are pissing me off.

Speaker 7:
[25:09] No, no, we do have to actually tell you weird shit has been happening in this house lately. And like it was like pre-paranormal investigation. It was. Paranormal activity.

Speaker 8:
[25:18] Paranormal investigation. But yeah, so I'm just going to keep on trucking through. But yeah, he's like, he looks at Mika and he's like, he doesn't say it, but he's like, you're going to be a problem, I can see it. But he says, but Mika asks him if there's any something they can do and not to make it stop, but to piss it off enough to make it appear for the camera.

Speaker 7:
[25:40] That was valid.

Speaker 8:
[25:41] Which Katie is also already said she doesn't want to do. And Dr. Friedrich is like, honestly, he basically looks at Katie and is like, honey, you can do better.

Speaker 7:
[25:50] Like he's just like, what are you doing?

Speaker 8:
[25:53] But Katie is like, yeah, I'm not trying to piss off this thing. And Dr. Friedrich tells Mika, damn it, that this thing will feed off of his rank ass energy. But Mika jokes that, literally, he says, sir, he's going to feed off your rank ass energy. And then Mika jokes that they just shouldn't let Katie's mom come over anymore if it feeds off of negative energy.

Speaker 7:
[26:15] I was like, damn brother.

Speaker 6:
[26:17] Boom, roasted.

Speaker 7:
[26:18] You can't be talking about her mom to her face.

Speaker 8:
[26:21] And he is not amused. He looks at him like, you're a little bitch and I don't like you. And as he walks away, Katie's like, can you stop being a little bitch? And he's like, your mom's mean. And I was like, you're a bitch boy and I hate you. But this part is terrifying in my humble opinion, what he says, because he tells them that they have a demon in the house and he's not a demon guy. He says he's built his career on dealing with ghosts because ghosts were once humans. He's comfortable there. But demons, there's a whole lot of debate about what they are or what they were.

Speaker 7:
[26:55] That shit is so scary.

Speaker 8:
[26:57] He says, but one thing's for sure, they were not humans. Then he tells Katie, you can't run from this because it will follow you. I was like, that would fuck me up for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2:
[27:08] I feel like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 7:
[27:10] But it's such a perfect way to start this whole thing off.

Speaker 8:
[27:12] Yeah, because they're like, you can't leave. Running from the house isn't going to do anything.

Speaker 7:
[27:15] Exactly.

Speaker 6:
[27:16] But also, he's just repeating what she already told him. She already said that.

Speaker 8:
[27:20] No, well, no, she was saying it periodically, because he's saying, it's going to follow you forever. This is not going to stop. You've got to take care of it. Well, and he even said, it could lay dormant for years, and then something will trigger it to become more active and try to communicate with her.

Speaker 7:
[27:35] Which was literally Mika.

Speaker 8:
[27:36] Yeah. And he gives them the number of Dr. Yohan Avery's, who he says is a colleague. And he's a demonologist who specializes in this kind of thing.

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Speaker 8:
[29:05] So Mika then interrupts, to be a dumbass. He asks why they can't just get a Ouija board and ask this demon what it wants and then give it what it wants. Dr. Friedrich literally looks at him so blankly and is like, because it wants Katie. He's like, do you want to give it your girlfriend? Like, you idiot. He scolds Mika and tells him if he does do the Ouija board and starts communicating with it, it's going to think that it can communicate with you and that you want to. And it's inviting the demon in.

Speaker 7:
[29:36] Not smart.

Speaker 8:
[29:37] And he tells Katie she's going to be fine. He tries to be comforting to her.

Speaker 7:
[29:41] I know.

Speaker 8:
[29:41] Dr. Friedrich does. And when he leaves, Mika's like, that guy's a fruit.

Speaker 7:
[29:46] I'm like, I don't think so.

Speaker 8:
[29:47] He wasn't very fruit.

Speaker 7:
[29:48] I think he just didn't like you and you don't like that.

Speaker 8:
[29:51] He didn't find you humorous and charming and that's why you don't like him. Then later when Katie's brushing her teeth, she's literally saying like she doesn't feel crazy anymore. She's like, that was really validating and that she wants to call the demonologist. He literally laughs in her face and then tells her not to call the demonologist, and that it's insane if she does.

Speaker 7:
[30:12] Do you feel like that's partly the demon? Because I just don't-

Speaker 8:
[30:17] I think that's just me.

Speaker 7:
[30:18] I don't get why he wouldn't want her to call the demonologist.

Speaker 8:
[30:21] I will say. Because I think he is just being like, this is stupid. I don't think he believes at all in the- I don't think he believes in Dr. Friedrich even in the end. I think he's just like, he's probably how Caleb is saying right now, like, you told him your story. He just parroted it back. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[30:38] But it's like something's happening.

Speaker 8:
[30:39] Just sounding like, you know, I don't think he believes in that stuff. Because he also is like crazy. He's also like way too like cavalier in the end anyway. But yeah, I think that's just him being like that kind of dude that's like, I can take care of it. It's my house.

Speaker 7:
[30:56] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[30:57] Because he says that so many times. But yeah, he just laughs at her and he says you can't do that. And he makes her promise not to call. And she does, but only if it doesn't get worse.

Speaker 7:
[31:06] I think that's so stupid.

Speaker 8:
[31:07] She's going to call. Night number three. At 2 0 0 8 a.m. There's a weird humming noise and creaky floorboards. Then the door creaks closed a little bit and then creaks open a little bit.

Speaker 7:
[31:20] That shit would fuck me up.

Speaker 6:
[31:22] That was just a draft.

Speaker 7:
[31:24] I would know because I know the way it's like. Yeah, it's just a little bit back and forth to.

Speaker 8:
[31:29] And the draft is is debunked because nothing else moves in the room. There's like a plant right next to the door. And he points out like the plant doesn't move.

Speaker 7:
[31:40] That's not wind, baby.

Speaker 8:
[31:42] Debunked. Whoa.

Speaker 7:
[31:47] Then you got me, I was like, did something happen to you?

Speaker 8:
[31:53] And how slow motion that was.

Speaker 2:
[31:54] You went, whoa, you guys are easily gone. I don't think you got it.

Speaker 8:
[32:02] You did not get me on that one. But the next morning he shows her and she's shocked. But immediately he asks her how they can try to get the ghost to come back. And she has to tell this idiot for probably a third time in this entire thing that she wants it to go away. And also, it's not a ghost, it's a demon, clearly. So we see Mika playing his guitar and we hear Katie scream for help out of nowhere. And this is like during the day. And he goes to run to her, but then he runs back and grabs the camera. Luckily it was a spider and not actual danger. But like, what the? And even she's like, you hesitated and grabbed the camera? Like you didn't know what was happening with me. But that night, Mika has been reading about shit and he has groundbreaking news, guys. Are you ready? It could be a ghost or it could be a demon. Whoa.

Speaker 6:
[33:00] That's pretty groundbreaking.

Speaker 8:
[33:01] I take back what I said about Mika, he really, he's got it. He's got it under control. And Katie is like, yeah, we know it's a demon because the doctor, Dr. Friedrichs said it was a demon, but he's not willing to take that. He's like, no, I want to go by my own evidence. I'm doing research. I'm going to investigate this because I'm the man of the house. And she says, whatever is following her. It doesn't feel like a human. And she says, it feels like a legit monster and it feels like it wants to hurt her, which I feel like he should take seriously. If she's sitting there being like, I feel like it wants to hurt me, take it seriously.

Speaker 7:
[33:34] That is terrifying.

Speaker 8:
[33:35] But instead he literally sighs and he's just laying there and he goes, sounds like a demon. And I was like, you asshole.

Speaker 7:
[33:42] Yes.

Speaker 8:
[33:44] Like don't fuck him again, Katie, don't do it. Cause she does at one point before this. We don't see it, but we see the lead up to it.

Speaker 7:
[33:50] Oh yeah, you're right.

Speaker 8:
[33:51] And I said, don't do that again. He doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 7:
[33:53] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[33:54] But he tells us that demons are malevolent spirits because he's done his research. Of course. Who exists only to cause pain and commit evil for their own amusement. They'll stalk people for years, they can be intelligent, but it's super rare phenomena. And he's so excited that they got it on tape.

Speaker 7:
[34:12] That is so fucked up that he's like, yeah, he's a demon for them. Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[34:16] Like, who cares if he wants to eat your girlfriend, right?

Speaker 7:
[34:19] Like, I don't know, it'll be entertaining to show people. It's pretty cool, I will say.

Speaker 8:
[34:23] But Katie is very controlled in this moment when she explains to him that she understands that he that this is all new to him. Like, he's never experienced this, but she has been dealing with it her whole life, and she's terrified. And if it gets worse, she doesn't want to provoke it or keep filming it for fun, she wants help. And he responds that she didn't explain all this before they moved in together, so he gets a say in how they respond to it. And I'd say, actually no, because it's happening to me and not you, so I get to decide how it responds.

Speaker 7:
[34:57] Exactly. And also be like, I can move out if you want.

Speaker 8:
[35:00] Yeah. There you go. All right. Yeah. But he shows us that he locked everything up, like he locked all the doors, all the windows, and he set the alarm, so they're good. And she, like us, is like, yeah, I don't think the demon that's already in our house cares about the alarm being set, or the doors being locked. Like, we just locked them in here with us, so that's good. Now, 2:55 AM, we get that low humming again, and then we see Katie sit up and she's like gasping, like it's like coming out of a scary dream. And she's inconsolable for a minute. She's like gasping for air. She's like freaked out. Poor Katie. And Mika does comfort her here because, and she starts saying like, my head, which is scary. And then there is a huge bang from downstairs. And it scares the shit out of them. And they go downstairs with Mika asking anyone down here, which is always my favorite thing in these situations. Anyone down here? Oh, yeah. It's gonna be like, just me go back to bed. Like, it's just like, what?

Speaker 7:
[35:56] Hey, can I take your stuff?

Speaker 8:
[35:58] I've never in my life, when we heard a noise, I walked downstairs and had John or myself be like, hello, is anyone down here? Like, no, I want to sneak up on that bitch.

Speaker 7:
[36:07] Exactly.

Speaker 8:
[36:08] But indeed, nothing is down there. And when he puts the camera back on the tripod in the bedroom, he says, that's all you got? And I said, you said that shit.

Speaker 7:
[36:18] Don't be saying that shit.

Speaker 8:
[36:19] Like, stop.

Speaker 7:
[36:21] She just woke up and said her head hurts, bro.

Speaker 8:
[36:24] Now, the next day, Katie is freaked out. She's doing her beads with her friend Amber and Mika interrupts them. She's like, excuse me.

Speaker 7:
[36:31] She's doing her beads. She's freaked out doing those beads.

Speaker 8:
[36:35] She's trying to calm her nervous system.

Speaker 7:
[36:37] Trying to granny soothe.

Speaker 2:
[36:38] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[36:39] And how dare he interrupt that? And she keeps telling him like, Mika, girl time. This is not Mika camera time. This is mama bead time.

Speaker 2:
[36:47] Like, just go away.

Speaker 8:
[36:49] Mama bead time. He just won't let it go and annoy me.

Speaker 7:
[36:54] Not mama bead time.

Speaker 8:
[36:55] He interrupts them to show them that 20 seconds before they woke up that morning, he got an EVP of some scary growly bitch speaking in another language.

Speaker 7:
[37:04] Hate that.

Speaker 8:
[37:05] And he says he thinks it wants to talk. So they, and I was like, I feel like it doesn't. And he's like, we should get a Ouija. And of course everyone in the room, including like meeting Amber and Katie. And us. And us. We're all like dumb ass.

Speaker 6:
[37:19] Don't pile me in with that. I think he should get the Ouija board.

Speaker 8:
[37:23] See, Caleb would be sitting there being like, let's get the Ouija board.

Speaker 7:
[37:25] Oh my God, Caleb.

Speaker 6:
[37:27] I would definitely egg it on. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8:
[37:29] You absolutely would. Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 7:
[37:32] That's how you get yourself killed.

Speaker 8:
[37:33] They're all like, no, we're not doing that. Dr. Friedrich said not to. Like, this is a bad idea. And his response, sorry, I told you about it. Like, grow up, bro.

Speaker 7:
[37:44] I'd be like, sorry, I decided to live with you.

Speaker 8:
[37:46] Sorry that you're a dick.

Speaker 7:
[37:47] Sorry you're never gonna get fucked again.

Speaker 8:
[37:49] Bye.

Speaker 7:
[37:50] That's what I'd say. I'm like, bye, that's the end. I'd pack up my beads and go.

Speaker 8:
[37:55] But Katie tells him to promise he won't get a Ouija board and he will not use it. And he says, I promise I won't buy a Ouija board.

Speaker 7:
[38:04] And she should have said, he should have caught that one. You gotta clarify that shit.

Speaker 8:
[38:08] Cause you say, ah, ah, ah.

Speaker 7:
[38:10] I promise I will not buy, borrow, steal, bring a Ouija board into this house.

Speaker 8:
[38:15] I will not have a Ouija board near this house, anywhere. So at night, what does he do? Yell around the house that they haven't had anything interesting happen in a while. And then taunts the demon saying, are you scared? And she's like, hey, stop doing that for the hundredth fucking time.

Speaker 7:
[38:34] So it's like, dude, it wants to eat me. Can you not provoke it?

Speaker 8:
[38:37] And he tells her, go back to sleep, go back to sleep. And then he goes, what you got? I'm calling you out. And I was like, I hate him. Euthanize him. Don't even euthanize him, murder him. And she begs him to stop. And he finishes saying, your demon's worthless. And then calls to the demon, you're worthless. Boom. Night 13, 3:13 a.m., thudding and scraping, wakes Katie up. Then some more thudding and Mika wakes up. Then they both hear it and they're listening from the bed. And it seems to speed up a bit. This one fucks me up, I'm sorry. And then it seems to speed up. And then suddenly a shrieking sound and a huge slam from downstairs.

Speaker 7:
[39:17] I don't like the like...

Speaker 8:
[39:19] When it speeds up the thudding or the footsteps, it freaks me. And then the shrieking and the big thud, I would die like I would pass away.

Speaker 7:
[39:27] I'd shit my pants.

Speaker 8:
[39:29] The camera even shakes after the thud. So they go downstairs and like the chandelier, the lighting fixture is rocking back and forth. Like everything is shook. Nothing else though, nothing else happened down there. And they go back up to the bedroom and they're still thumping downstairs and they just kind of sit up in bed for the rest of the night, like huddled together. So the next morning, Mika is somehow still excited about this and says out loud he hopes it shows him more action.

Speaker 7:
[39:55] He's such a fucking idiot.

Speaker 8:
[39:57] Yeah. She's, Katie's like confused like I am of why he isn't freaked out and like, frankly, that needs to be answered.

Speaker 7:
[40:06] I'd also be like, do you want me to get eaten?

Speaker 8:
[40:08] Yeah, I'd be like, is this like how? Is this like your kink?

Speaker 7:
[40:10] Like you want your girlfriend to get eaten?

Speaker 8:
[40:12] Are you like quiet breaking up with me by having a demon kill me?

Speaker 2:
[40:15] Is that how you do it?

Speaker 7:
[40:16] Did you hire this guy?

Speaker 2:
[40:17] Yeah. What's this about?

Speaker 8:
[40:18] But she tells him it got worse when they got the camera. Like she thinks that that's a problem. The shit hasn't happened before. And he's like, whatever. No, it's not the camera. Okay. She's like, okay. Yeah, you know. So he ignores her and tries to talk to it in the bedroom with a microphone. And he asks what its quest is and what its favorite color is. That's like a Monty Python reference. Oh. And he will ask whether it wants to use a Ouija board to chat. And when he looks at like the WAVE files from that later, he sees that when he add, the only response that came was after he said, do you want to talk through the Ouija board? And there's like a growl after it.

Speaker 7:
[40:57] Which like, you really can't confirm is it yes or no.

Speaker 8:
[41:00] Exactly. He's like, is that like-

Speaker 6:
[41:01] It's kind of up in the air.

Speaker 8:
[41:02] He said, is that one for yes and two for no? And I was like, you made that up.

Speaker 6:
[41:06] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[41:06] And you didn't establish that before.

Speaker 8:
[41:08] Yeah, you need a baseline. You need to talk to the demon. You need to figure out what's what.

Speaker 7:
[41:12] It's like cross for yes and chill for no.

Speaker 8:
[41:15] Exactly. Night 15, y'all. 1:36 a.m., there's low humming. Katie sits up. She stands up and stares at Mika sleeping until 3:30 a.m. without moving. Bitch, I hate this one.

Speaker 7:
[41:28] If I woke up in the middle of the night and my mans was staring at me not moving, I don't know what I would do.

Speaker 2:
[41:36] I also don't know what I would do.

Speaker 6:
[41:39] What are some of the options? What do you think you would do?

Speaker 7:
[41:42] Shit, cry, leave. Maybe all.

Speaker 10:
[41:46] All very much.

Speaker 7:
[41:47] Shit, cry, leave.

Speaker 6:
[41:48] How come any scenario leads to you shitting your pants?

Speaker 7:
[41:51] Because I have IBS. A good day leads to me shitting my pants, Caleb. I'm actively trying not to shit my pants right now.

Speaker 6:
[42:03] Fair enough. No more questions.

Speaker 2:
[42:06] Fair enough.

Speaker 7:
[42:11] Was it you recently who was like, I'm surprised you don't have Crohn's? I was tested for it and I don't have it.

Speaker 8:
[42:17] I was like, do you? You're like, no, I got tested.

Speaker 7:
[42:20] I think I have to stop eating fried food.

Speaker 8:
[42:23] No, I'm more concerned about how Mika did not once feel anyone staring at him for like two hours.

Speaker 7:
[42:30] Yeah, that's crazy because I feel like I would feel that.

Speaker 8:
[42:34] Like here's the thing about Mika. He's the worst boyfriend in the entire world for so many reasons. One being that evolutionarily, he should be weeded out of your life for that because he has zero survival instinct. Like he cannot protect you in the cave from the woolly mammoth. Like he doesn't even know the woolly mammoth is there.

Speaker 7:
[42:57] No, he wants to fight the woolly mammoth.

Speaker 8:
[42:59] He doesn't even know it's there though. He'll just sleep through it. The woolly mammoth will be on top of him and he won't even know it's there because that man did not once have any kind of tingling Spidey senses of like who's staring at me for two hours.

Speaker 7:
[43:11] That's crazy.

Speaker 8:
[43:12] That's crazy. I was like, dude, get it together.

Speaker 7:
[43:15] It's so manlike though. They can sleep. They don't have worries.

Speaker 8:
[43:18] They don't have worries. So she stares at him for two hours until 330 in the morning and then she just goes downstairs and we're like, bye Katie. And he gets up and looks everywhere and he's like, where's my girlfriend that I didn't notice left that room?

Speaker 7:
[43:33] Where's my girly?

Speaker 8:
[43:34] And then he finds her outside on a swing in the pitch black in the backyard.

Speaker 7:
[43:38] You've never been found in that scenario?

Speaker 8:
[43:40] I have not.

Speaker 6:
[43:41] I've been found in that scenario.

Speaker 7:
[43:44] That's the most believable thing you've ever said.

Speaker 2:
[43:46] I truly believe that.

Speaker 6:
[43:48] I'm so serious too. I've definitely been in this situation.

Speaker 7:
[43:51] I absolutely believe that.

Speaker 8:
[43:53] But she's out of it. She doesn't even know how to respond to him. But she's refusing to come back inside. So he goes inside to get her a blanket and sit with her. And there's a big bang from upstairs in their bedroom. And when he goes upstairs yelling, who's that? Which again, what are you doing? The TV in their room is on full volume with like snow, like static.

Speaker 7:
[44:17] I hate snow. I hated that.

Speaker 8:
[44:19] It was so overstimulating.

Speaker 7:
[44:20] It is. It was so fucking loud.

Speaker 8:
[44:22] And Katie appears and just gets into bed and is like, what the fuck are you doing? Go to sleep.

Speaker 7:
[44:27] She's like, are you fucking weirdo?

Speaker 8:
[44:28] She's like, I found you outside. And she's like, what? But the next morning he shows her everything and she has no memory of any of this. And she says she always had nightmares that were like super gruesome, but she never knew if she did anything like that before. And he says they need to not let this thing get to them because they're starting to bicker a little bit. Cause she keeps, she keeps asking him, can you get the camera out of my fucking face? And he's like, not respectful of that.

Speaker 7:
[44:51] I don't think that's the demon. I think that's just not being respectful of personal boundaries.

Speaker 8:
[44:56] And he then stupidly says that bringing in someone else like a demonologist or an exorcist will just make things worse.

Speaker 7:
[45:03] I don't think so, cause you don't know what they did.

Speaker 8:
[45:05] Why don't you just try? So next is footage of Mika showing that he has a fucking Ouija board. This is supposed, and this is supposed to be like a night out for them.

Speaker 7:
[45:16] I'd punch him in the dick.

Speaker 8:
[45:18] And he's all dressed and he has a button up shirt on and she's getting ready and he places on the living room table and he calls the demon a fucker and tells it that if it has something to say, now's the time. And he calls Katie and he's like, hey, help me do this. And when she sees it, she fucking loses it on him. She freaks the fuck out, understandably.

Speaker 7:
[45:39] She still goes out with him though, which is a little nuts.

Speaker 8:
[45:41] I think because she's like, I just want to get the fuck out of the house. Yeah. But she's like, you promised me you wouldn't get one. And he says, no, I promised you I wouldn't buy one. I borrowed this one.

Speaker 7:
[45:50] Oh, what a fucking ass ass.

Speaker 6:
[45:52] That's a good loophole.

Speaker 8:
[45:54] It's not, because she goes, fuck you, you knew what I meant.

Speaker 2:
[45:57] I was like, yeah, you did.

Speaker 7:
[45:58] She should have clarified.

Speaker 6:
[45:59] She wasn't being specific enough.

Speaker 7:
[46:00] Because she knows her boyfriend. She shouldn't have to. If John, this man, she should know.

Speaker 8:
[46:07] Because if John tried to use a little loophole like that, I'd be like, you know better.

Speaker 7:
[46:11] I'd punch him in the dick.

Speaker 8:
[46:12] You know better. But she tells him he's getting rid of it and there's no more camera and she's fucking done. She's big mad, which I'm sure the demon is sitting there being like, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, like he just loves it all. And they storm out of the door. He's like, yay.

Speaker 7:
[46:32] He's like, finger looking, finger looking, finger looking good.

Speaker 6:
[46:40] This demon is a goofball.

Speaker 2:
[46:44] He is.

Speaker 7:
[46:45] He says, I'm loving it. What's finger looking good?

Speaker 8:
[46:52] Isn't that KFC?

Speaker 7:
[46:53] Isn't that what it is?

Speaker 6:
[46:54] That's definitely KFC.

Speaker 8:
[46:56] Yeah. But they storm out together. They leave the camera rolling, and it's on the board. And we see the planchette move by itself.

Speaker 7:
[47:04] It's like...

Speaker 8:
[47:04] And as it moves, it leaves a trail of fire on the... It's crazy. It actually looks really cool.

Speaker 7:
[47:10] I do the same thing.

Speaker 6:
[47:11] I want to know what that planchette was trying to spell, because it was kind of just bouncing all over the place.

Speaker 8:
[47:15] Diane.

Speaker 6:
[47:15] It did not make any sense.

Speaker 7:
[47:17] Dirty Diana.

Speaker 8:
[47:18] I think it was trying to show them Diane, that lady that died from this. I think he was literally being like, hey, bitch, this is your future.

Speaker 7:
[47:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:25] I can literally think that was it.

Speaker 7:
[47:27] I think so, too.

Speaker 8:
[47:28] And it puts itself out. And when they come back, Katie sees it and is like, what did you do to Mika? And Mika's like, yeah, I didn't do that. And she says, she's done. And if you won't take care of it, then she will. And she storms upstairs. And he shows the camera that there's clearly something burned onto the board, but you can't figure it out.

Speaker 7:
[47:48] It's like melty kind of.

Speaker 8:
[47:50] And even though Katie literally just told him to go fuck himself, he's like, hey, Katie, can you come down and help me figure this out? Sir, read the motherfucking room.

Speaker 7:
[48:04] But she does.

Speaker 8:
[48:04] No, she says, I don't give a fuck what the Ouija board says. And then she slams the bedroom door.

Speaker 7:
[48:10] But later she helps him figure it out.

Speaker 8:
[48:12] And then he tries to keep pushing and she tells him, get out of the room and she goes, get out.

Speaker 7:
[48:16] Get out!

Speaker 8:
[48:17] And she says it like, oh! He says to the camera, I think she's pissed.

Speaker 7:
[48:22] I think so.

Speaker 8:
[48:24] That kind of man who's like, you think she's mad? Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. She's so mad that later she's going to throw you at the camera from the hallway.

Speaker 7:
[48:35] She's so mad that she's going to stab the shit out of you.

Speaker 8:
[48:37] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[48:37] Her and her demon are going to actually team up.

Speaker 8:
[48:39] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[48:39] That's what happened in the end. He said team and she said, but honestly, at the end, you're kind of like good for her.

Speaker 8:
[48:46] But the next day he's trying to talk to her, but she's still mad. And he asked her, what do I have to do? And she says, you have to turn off the fucking camera. And he doesn't. He just puts it down. And we can then see Mika in front of the camera in the bedroom, reciting that what Katie has made him do. He says he swears to abide by Katie's rules and regulations of camera use and to not offend the entity or whatever it is in any way, shape or form. So help me God.

Speaker 7:
[49:13] You didn't think that was funny?

Speaker 8:
[49:15] I thought that was funny.

Speaker 7:
[49:15] You didn't think that was funny?

Speaker 8:
[49:18] And he was like, how is that? And she makes him say it with more enthusiasm the second time. I love it. And she then makes him mad that he promises not to betray Katie's trust. And they go to bed. And at first he goes to give her a kiss and she's like, no, I'm good. And then she relents and gives him a kiss because I think she's trying to do the whole like, we can't go to bed. Totally mad at each other. But once she does that, so he has just crossed the threshold into her even talking to him and he's laying there and he just says, want to know what happened with the Ouija board? No, how are you this dumb? And she just says, no, I don't. I don't want to know you idiot. Not at 1.30 in the morning.

Speaker 7:
[50:00] Yeah, because we're about to fall asleep. Yeah, what? Goddamn. Put that lull me to bed.

Speaker 8:
[50:04] So the next day, Mika has been trying to decode what the plant chat was spelling out. He thinks it says Diane or Dina or something like that. And she's like, I don't know anybody like that. And she says she actually doesn't care what it's saying because he's done playing with it and she wants it the fuck out of the house. And Amber, Amber comes over and offers for them to stay with her. But Katie's like, no, babe, it's not the house. It'll follow me and then I'll fuck your shit up.

Speaker 7:
[50:30] That was a good friend.

Speaker 8:
[50:31] That's a real good friend. And Mika says he has a plan, though. Oh, goody. And I love it because even Amber is like, what's your plan?

Speaker 7:
[50:39] She's like, don't.

Speaker 8:
[50:39] She's like, I don't trust you to have a plan. Katie agrees to let him use baby powder and do an experiment that night. But if it gets worse, she's calling the demonologist. I was like, you should have done this a while ago. Yeah, you got to call that guy. Stop compromising with him. You should have compromised. I wouldn't have even compromised that first time. But after the first time, you gave the compromise. You said, if it gets worse, I'm calling. Now you're done. You're done. Like, stop giving him these little like, I want to use baby powder and see if I can catch some footsteps.

Speaker 7:
[51:07] Because here's the thing, even if you catch the footsteps, what are you doing? How are you going to stop it? Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[51:12] So you're catching it coming to kill you? Like what? Cool. So that night, Katie Films him spreading the baby powder all over the upstairs floor. And they sit in bed and they're still heated. And he said, he's going to take care of this. And she's like, haha, you're stupid. So night 17, Katie says powder is the last thing before they go to sleep. At 315 a.m., there are heavy footsteps. And then you see them appear in the powder, like going towards her on the bed. Hated that. Katie and Mika wake up and are like, holy shit. And they follow them down the hall where it starts. And all the powder is disturbed in each of the spots. And it goes all the way to the attic. And the attic is a jar, which would freak me the fuck out.

Speaker 7:
[51:54] I would hate that.

Speaker 6:
[51:55] Attics open up all the time.

Speaker 8:
[51:58] Not those kind of attics.

Speaker 6:
[51:59] Yeah, they just, the door just slides over to the side all the time. It happens every day.

Speaker 8:
[52:04] No, no.

Speaker 7:
[52:05] I had an attic like that for two years. That shit ain't never opened.

Speaker 8:
[52:08] Yeah, no way. I currently have an attic like that. It doesn't open like that.

Speaker 7:
[52:12] I don't.

Speaker 8:
[52:13] No way.

Speaker 2:
[52:13] And I love that I don't have an attic like that. I do.

Speaker 8:
[52:16] No way is that opening.

Speaker 7:
[52:17] My attic is finished.

Speaker 8:
[52:18] I do love this, though, because they get a ladder to look up there. And he's up there. And as soon as he went up there, I was like, if I was Katie, I'd be like, I don't want to be down here. I know. And she literally is like, I don't want to be alone down here. Hurry up. Let's please start. And Mika can see he's like looking around the attic, like just with a flashlight. And he sees something buried in a bit of insulation in the corner. And they get it. And it's a burned photo of Katie at like eight years old from her old house.

Speaker 7:
[52:46] He's like, this is when I met you.

Speaker 8:
[52:47] And this is it.

Speaker 7:
[52:48] He's like, hey girl.

Speaker 8:
[52:50] He's like, this is how far back we go. After your house burned down. You're a musical genius Ash. It was before the house burned down. I think he burned down the house.

Speaker 7:
[53:03] I know, but it didn't work like that for the song.

Speaker 8:
[53:08] Before I burned your house down. Exactly. But she is freaking out. She hasn't seen this photo in years. There's literally no reason or way that this photo should be in their house.

Speaker 7:
[53:19] It's been in the demon's back pocket.

Speaker 8:
[53:21] And he tells her that the placement of it was right over where their bed is. If we're like looking at placement in the house.

Speaker 7:
[53:27] I don't even think I caught that. I hate that even more.

Speaker 8:
[53:30] So the next morning they are exhausted. And he shows her the powder footprint footage. And she's like, so what are we going to do? Basically prompting him to say, we're going to call the demonologist now. But he's like, I don't know. And she's like, we're calling Dr. Avery's idiot. And she goes to call and he's still fighting it. And I even said here, is he the demon? Are you the demon here?

Speaker 7:
[53:53] Honestly.

Speaker 8:
[53:54] And then she loses her shit on him telling him that he isn't in control and he sucks ass and she's taking control now. And she says, and he's like, I just... And she says, get over it.

Speaker 7:
[54:07] And the call, I was like, damn.

Speaker 8:
[54:09] And oops, Dr. Avery's, he's out of the country for a few days. So she calls Dr. Frederick's and he's coming over the next day.

Speaker 7:
[54:17] But he's like, I don't really know what I can do to help you.

Speaker 8:
[54:19] So night number 18, at 3:53 a.m. there's a low humming and then there's light downstairs and it flicks on and there's this heavy steps coming up the stairs. And Mika wakes up and then the lights flick off and the steps are running, like full speed running. Then the bedroom door slam shut and Mika goes to the door. And when he approaches it, something starts slamming against it like over and over again.

Speaker 7:
[54:45] That shit was so scary.

Speaker 8:
[54:46] That was scary.

Speaker 7:
[54:47] That shit was scary, Caleb.

Speaker 8:
[54:49] That's scary as fuck. The footsteps running towards the room. that.

Speaker 7:
[54:52] That doesn't scare you at all.

Speaker 6:
[54:54] We gotta agree to disagree.

Speaker 8:
[54:56] I'm going to if that happened to you, I'm going to haunt you. Wait, wait.

Speaker 7:
[55:00] No, I'm actually like silly, silly. I'm actually genuinely asking. Yeah, that really wouldn't scare you if that happened to you in your house.

Speaker 6:
[55:08] If that happened to me, yeah, that would scare the living fuck out of me. In the context of this terrible, terrible, awful movie, it is not scary.

Speaker 7:
[55:15] OK, I disagree with you there, but I'm glad that you can at least admit that if that happened to you, it would be fucking terrifying.

Speaker 6:
[55:21] Oh, for sure. If anything's like stomping at me in my house. I mean, I live alone, so if anything's stomping at me, like, yeah, that's going to be a problem.

Speaker 7:
[55:30] Yeah. What would you do?

Speaker 6:
[55:32] What would I do? I'd probably just succumb. And I'd probably... Caleb just says... What am I supposed to do about that?

Speaker 7:
[55:41] Probably just succumb. You wouldn't even run?

Speaker 6:
[55:44] No. What am I running from?

Speaker 8:
[55:46] That's my favorite answer. Honestly, that answer couldn't have been better. I'd probably just succumb. You know what?

Speaker 6:
[55:54] There was one time that my buddy Lance was coming over and I kind of forgot that he was coming over. And then I was playing video games in the other room and I had headphones on. And then all of a sudden, I heard my door open and then stomping. And I kind of just ran into the other room. I ran at him and I just ran in with absolutely nothing to defend myself with or nothing to do whatsoever. And he was like, what were you gonna do right now? And I was like, honestly, I didn't get that far.

Speaker 8:
[56:24] You were ready to succumb.

Speaker 2:
[56:25] I was gonna fist fight you.

Speaker 8:
[56:26] I don't know.

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Speaker 6:
[57:28] Oh my God.

Speaker 8:
[57:29] Well, they don't succumb. They open the door and the light is on downstairs again. He's still doing the, like Mika is still doing the, you're going to fuck with us routine. Then he'll show yourself and the bedroom door slam shut. Then they walk back towards it and more banging on it from the inside now. Katie is legit panicking. She's doing such a good job looking like she's legit freaked out of her mind. Yeah. Mika gets the bedroom door open, but she refuses to go inside. They stand on the landing of the staircase and there are so many noises when you really listen.

Speaker 7:
[58:05] Yeah, there really are.

Speaker 8:
[58:05] They're scary as fuck. There's like growls and like weird shrieking that's like really muffled. And Mika thinks they should go back in the bedroom, so they do.

Speaker 7:
[58:14] But I would be outside.

Speaker 8:
[58:16] Yeah. But they sit up all night with the light on. The next morning, Katie's a mess. She's like barely there. She's exhausted. She's terrified. They're silently eating food together and suddenly there's a huge bang from upstairs. So they go to look and the picture of them on the wall in the hallway is shattered, but only over Mika's face.

Speaker 7:
[58:35] That's me.

Speaker 8:
[58:36] And he's like, how come my face is scratched and yours isn't?

Speaker 7:
[58:39] Because you're a pussy ass bitch.

Speaker 8:
[58:41] Exactly. Like, is this a real question, Mika?

Speaker 7:
[58:44] What do you think, brother?

Speaker 8:
[58:45] Are you really confused why yours is smashed?

Speaker 7:
[58:47] Yeah, he is.

Speaker 8:
[58:47] You are being the asshole. Suddenly, she's like, it's here. And she's standing there in the hallway looking terrified. I hate this part. And again, she, Katie does a really good job at looking terrified. Because when she's standing there, you believe that she just can't move. And she says she can feel it breathing on her. And then her fucking hair blows. And I said, that bitch just blew in your ear. Like, that's so much.

Speaker 7:
[59:13] One time a ghost blew in Alaina's ear.

Speaker 8:
[59:14] Yes. Your hair was up. My hair was up, so it didn't do anything. But holy shit.

Speaker 7:
[59:19] Even just the thought of that, I just got a whole big chill.

Speaker 8:
[59:21] Well, and she just takes off fucking running downstairs. She's like, I have survival instinct.

Speaker 7:
[59:26] I would do the same.

Speaker 8:
[59:27] Mika keeps looking upstairs, though. Again, no survival instincts to be found. He goes room to room looking for this thing. So Dr. Friedrich shows up, and immediately Dr. Friedrich is like, oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7:
[59:40] He said, I got to get out of here.

Speaker 8:
[59:41] He says Dr. Avery's is out of the country, but he is physically feeling this place, and he says it's overpowering, and he doesn't even come fully inside. He's literally in the front doorway, and he's like, yeah, it doesn't like that I'm here and I can't help you. And he apologizes, but he's like, I'm doing more harm than good than being here, and I need to get the fuck out of here. And he's like, this thing is actually mad that I'm here. And he says he has to leave now, and so Mika's like, well, what would he do? Should we leave? And he's like, leaving won't help at all. And I was like, ooh.

Speaker 7:
[60:15] He basically is like, hey, you're fucked, and I don't want to help you because I'm freaked out by.

Speaker 8:
[60:19] But he does say, I'm gonna help you, I just need to get out of this house, I can't be here. So night 19, Katie cries herself to sleep, and it's really sad.

Speaker 7:
[60:30] So sad, she's a very good crier.

Speaker 8:
[60:31] Yeah. And at 1:34 a.m., there's tapping, and then the bedsheets are moved to reveal Katie's foot.

Speaker 7:
[60:37] It's not like tapping like a dance class.

Speaker 8:
[60:41] No, not like tap dancing.

Speaker 7:
[60:43] That'd be kind of awesome. That'd be weird as. What would you do if you had a demon that tap danced?

Speaker 8:
[60:48] That would piss. Here's one thing about me. My kids are in tap, it's my least favorite one of the dances.

Speaker 7:
[60:55] I like tap.

Speaker 8:
[60:56] It stresses me out, it's a lot of overstimulation.

Speaker 7:
[60:58] I like tap.

Speaker 8:
[60:59] I will support them if they want to tap for the rest of their lives, but that sound, we're about to learn how to tap, babe. I know, I'm going to do it. But the lights flicker off and a giant shadow passes by the door.

Speaker 7:
[61:12] It's like a big hunchback shape.

Speaker 8:
[61:16] It looks fucked. I hate the shadow and it's horrifying. Then there's a growl and Katie wakes up and wakes Mika up saying she felt him breathing again. And Mika tries to comfort her, but she says she can feel the monster there. Now, the next day in the light, Katie is sitting in bed and you can hear like thudding still and she can still she says, I can feel him watching me. And she's panicking, saying they have to figure something out.

Speaker 7:
[61:43] You don't think that's terrifying? He shrugs. It's terrifying to feel somebody watching you that you can't see.

Speaker 8:
[61:51] And her acting, I think is so good.

Speaker 7:
[61:53] I think she's really good.

Speaker 8:
[61:54] I think she's good at acting scared. Like, I believe her.

Speaker 6:
[61:56] I think she's so bad.

Speaker 8:
[61:58] I think she's so good.

Speaker 7:
[61:59] That's our friend.

Speaker 8:
[62:02] I am team Katie. I think part of the reason I love this movie, and this is legit, part of the reason I think this movie is so scary is because she's so good at acting scary.

Speaker 7:
[62:12] I think so, too, because also all of her reactions are what I think I would probably react like. Exactly what my reactions would be.

Speaker 8:
[62:20] But Mika says he was researching because he's always researching, and he found a website by a girl named Diane, which I remember the board was spelling out Diane.

Speaker 7:
[62:30] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[62:31] And she had the same thing happening. This demon followed her for her whole life in the 60s. She called an exorcist, like she ended up dying.

Speaker 7:
[62:40] Those pictures were fucking scary.

Speaker 8:
[62:42] And Mika wonders if it's the same demon and maybe it jumped to Katie.

Speaker 7:
[62:46] And that's why it was spelling out.

Speaker 8:
[62:47] And maybe it was trying to warn them to find this woman. Personally, I think this thing was being like, hey, look what your future is, bitch.

Speaker 7:
[62:54] I think so too, like taunting.

Speaker 8:
[62:55] Hardy har har.

Speaker 6:
[62:56] That makes the most sense.

Speaker 8:
[62:57] I don't think he was being like, hey, look at Diane, see what helped her. She died. But the exorcism made it worse, according to Mika. And there's photos of this Diane girl looking like Reagan from the exorcist, just essentially. Scarier. This obviously freaks Katie out. She's like, great, I don't want to end up like that. Later, she's trying to study because she's still in school. I know. Yeah. So because at one point during this whole thing, she's like, I don't know how I'm going to go to class. And I was like, oh, my God, let's have class on top of that. So she's trying to study and she he puts the camera in her face and this big light. And she asked him to get the fucking camera out of her face and they get in a fight because he refuses to get the camera out of her fucking face.

Speaker 7:
[63:37] Honestly, I'd probably kick the camera over and destroy it. Literally, like I think I would hulk that shit to the ground. I get reckless because he's not respectful with it at all. I'd be like, do you want to fuck with me?

Speaker 8:
[63:49] And they start fighting. They get in a big argument. They're yelling at each other. He says he didn't bring this thing in the house. She did. And she he finds her sobbing on the floor upstairs. And then he does try to apologize and take it back. But like you already said it, bitch. Now night 20, 431 a.m. There's a humming noise and a scary ass shadow on the door.

Speaker 7:
[64:11] I hate the shadow.

Speaker 8:
[64:13] And then she is ripped out of bed and down the hallway, screaming for Mika, who takes way too long to get up.

Speaker 2:
[64:24] I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.

Speaker 8:
[64:32] Uh-uh.

Speaker 2:
[64:32] Yeah, that fucks me up.

Speaker 7:
[64:34] But I don't have words.

Speaker 8:
[64:36] She is so good screaming here. She sounds like someone who is being torn down the hallway by an Arden Fung scene entity.

Speaker 7:
[64:43] Truly.

Speaker 8:
[64:44] He takes, there's a beat before he gets out of bed.

Speaker 7:
[64:49] No, baby, there's like three beats.

Speaker 8:
[64:51] I said, bitch. Bitch, you should already be airborne by the first syllable of your name.

Speaker 7:
[64:57] Get up.

Speaker 8:
[64:58] I'm sorry, he took too long. So long, in fact, that by the time he gets out of bed, the demon has made the door slam shut.

Speaker 7:
[65:05] Yeah, she's in the back room.

Speaker 8:
[65:06] Yeah. And he runs, he gets it open. He runs after her. She's screaming and begging. And he's fighting with this thing to get her back outside where the attic is. It's trying to drag her into the attic. And he finally gets her and they're on the floor in the bedroom just sobbing. It's so scary. I thought this scene was so intense.

Speaker 7:
[65:24] That shit fucked me up.

Speaker 8:
[65:26] Now, the next morning, she just wants to leave. And he's like, OK, we're going to get a hotel. Then he asked if he can get a picture of the thing on her back. And it's this vicious bite mark.

Speaker 7:
[65:37] That shit is nuts.

Speaker 8:
[65:38] So angry and scary. And the bites. I like how they did this because they didn't make it like a human bite mark.

Speaker 7:
[65:43] No, it's like a lot of different teeth.

Speaker 8:
[65:45] And they're like pinpricks. So they're like sharp teeth. And next shot is Katie sitting catatonic on the floor. Maybe. Nah. A shark demon. A sheman.

Speaker 6:
[65:56] You don't think so, Ash?

Speaker 8:
[65:57] Or a dark.

Speaker 7:
[65:58] Nah, it didn't look like a shark bite to me.

Speaker 8:
[66:00] Just like, no. No, just very serious. So we get Katie sitting catatonic on the floor.

Speaker 7:
[66:07] What? Did you hear that? I'm not fucking with you. What was it? It was like a creek.

Speaker 6:
[66:15] I swear to God, you're with me.

Speaker 7:
[66:16] It's John in his closet.

Speaker 8:
[66:17] OK. I was like, sorry.

Speaker 7:
[66:18] I didn't know. No, no, no, I really wasn't. I swear I'm I'm jumpy because I'm freaked out. But I think if I think John's in his closet, should put on Ghost Tube. No, no, no, no, no, Mika, no, no, Mika. Put your phone away.

Speaker 8:
[66:31] I'm the Mika of the relationship.

Speaker 7:
[66:33] You are.

Speaker 2:
[66:33] Should I talk to it?

Speaker 8:
[66:34] No.

Speaker 7:
[66:36] Idiot. Promise me you won't put on Ghost Tube right now.

Speaker 8:
[66:40] Mika and ghosts and demons are different.

Speaker 7:
[66:43] Yeah, you don't know what we have. Nah. That's gross, doll.

Speaker 6:
[66:48] You got to look here, I guess.

Speaker 7:
[66:50] That's crazy in your own home, especially when you've been experiencing shit.

Speaker 8:
[66:54] Yeah, it hasn't been bad, though. I don't feel bad.

Speaker 7:
[66:56] Not yet. It's called lead up. Don't.

Speaker 8:
[66:58] She doesn't mean that.

Speaker 7:
[67:00] OK, you're being rude to it. I'm not trying to be rude to anything.

Speaker 8:
[67:04] I know that we are symbiotic here.

Speaker 7:
[67:06] OK, so it's OK. All right.

Speaker 8:
[67:10] So Katie's sitting on the floor. She's catatonic. She's holding a crucifix.

Speaker 7:
[67:15] I can't believe it.

Speaker 8:
[67:16] In her hand. And she's grasping it so hard, her whole hand is bleeding around it.

Speaker 7:
[67:21] That shit was nuts.

Speaker 8:
[67:22] And he takes it out of her hand and he can't wake her up. And he throws the crucifix in the fire and he says, fuck that. And I was like, yeah, you're so tough. So he's ready to go. But Katie is now back in bed. She's back in bed. She won't leave. She's like, no, middle of the day. She's like, I'm going to sleep. And she says, I don't want to leave. Stay with me. It'll be better this way. And she keeps saying she doesn't want to go and begging him to stay. And he's like, what the fuck? And she is dead eyed and says, I think we'll be okay now. And then she just smiles and closes her eyes when she smiles.

Speaker 6:
[67:57] See, this is when I would be pissed and I would be like, you know, you should have warned me that you had demons before we started dating.

Speaker 8:
[68:02] That you had demon.

Speaker 7:
[68:03] Yeah, I'd give you that.

Speaker 8:
[68:05] I didn't know you were with demon.

Speaker 7:
[68:06] I would also just be like, uh, you're not you when you're a demon. I can tell you're a demon right now.

Speaker 8:
[68:12] He should have seen that.

Speaker 7:
[68:13] Yeah, absolutely should have.

Speaker 8:
[68:14] Like you don't stay in the house another night.

Speaker 7:
[68:16] I think we'll be okay now. I think we'll be okay now.

Speaker 2:
[68:20] I think we're going to be doing great these days.

Speaker 8:
[68:22] And it's such a switch up.

Speaker 2:
[68:23] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[68:24] I'm like, obviously something's off. And also you found her holding a crucifix and bleeding from her hand. Like get her out of the house. Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[68:32] Just go to a hotel at least.

Speaker 8:
[68:33] But nope. Night 21. Here we are.

Speaker 7:
[68:36] 21.

Speaker 8:
[68:37] 1:27 a.m. Well, Katie sits up and she stares at Mika for a minute for a while. And that no, just this one is just a.

Speaker 7:
[68:47] Oh, this is a quick one.

Speaker 8:
[68:48] And then the sheets fall off of him by themselves.

Speaker 7:
[68:50] Right.

Speaker 8:
[68:51] And then she walks over next to him and stares at him until 3:14 a.m. for hours. And then she walks downstairs and it's quiet for a minute. And then suddenly she starts screaming bloody murder for Mika and he dives out. This one, he does dive out pretty quick. Yeah. And he runs to her, but more screaming ensues. And then we hear Mika screaming and maybe Mika's there too.

Speaker 7:
[69:18] I don't know. The demon could be Mika.

Speaker 8:
[69:19] There's like more than one voice and thuds and heavy footsteps start walking back up the stairs and it like pauses. And you hear these heavy footsteps. And then Mika's body comes hurling at the camera. Bam!

Speaker 7:
[69:35] Pitch went down.

Speaker 8:
[69:35] And we see Katie standing in the doorway covered in Mika's blood.

Speaker 7:
[69:39] Katie, super bitch.

Speaker 8:
[69:40] And she bends down. She walks over to him. She bends down. She gives him a good smell. And then she looks up at the camera and lunges at the camera like a demon.

Speaker 7:
[69:50] OK, that's the only part that I didn't like.

Speaker 8:
[69:52] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[69:53] It was so bad.

Speaker 8:
[69:54] The text on the screen says that Mika's body was discovered by police on October 11th, 2006, but Katie's whereabouts are unknown.

Speaker 7:
[70:04] That shit's scary. I don't like the way that her face morphs in the end. I feel like it's a little too silly.

Speaker 8:
[70:10] It's very 2006.

Speaker 7:
[70:12] It is very 2006. But I will give that whole movie overall. It's a chilling ass movie.

Speaker 8:
[70:17] It is a chilling ass movie.

Speaker 6:
[70:19] I didn't feel a chill.

Speaker 8:
[70:21] I felt so many chills.

Speaker 7:
[70:22] That's nuts to me.

Speaker 8:
[70:24] I chilled through the whole movie.

Speaker 7:
[70:26] I'm chilling right now.

Speaker 8:
[70:27] I said, oh, chills.

Speaker 6:
[70:29] Dude, I'm chilling too.

Speaker 8:
[70:31] You are chilling.

Speaker 2:
[70:33] I love it.

Speaker 7:
[70:34] I like it a lot.

Speaker 2:
[70:34] I think it's fun.

Speaker 8:
[70:35] I think it's not long either. So it just kind of rolls through.

Speaker 6:
[70:41] It fucking drags. What are you talking about?

Speaker 7:
[70:44] I knew you were going to say that.

Speaker 8:
[70:46] It doesn't.

Speaker 6:
[70:47] This movie drags so hard. I was so pissed when I was watching it, too, because my app kind of glitched out while I was watching it. And it was at this part. And I was like, this is the end of the movie, right? And it kept telling me it was like 30 minutes left. And I was like, dude, am I remembering this wrong? I was like, what the fuck happens after this? There's no way. And then the black screen with the white text popped on. I was like, oh, OK. So this is just like lying to me. This was just actually like the video app was trying to torture me.

Speaker 8:
[71:14] Maybe it was Paranormal Activity 2, which is what I'm going to pick next.

Speaker 6:
[71:21] That's crazy.

Speaker 7:
[71:22] Wait, look at my microphone.

Speaker 6:
[71:23] I don't remember Paranormal Activity 2 at all. So I am interested in that. I think I remember hearing that that one was better. Like, aside from like you saying that earlier, I think I remember hearing that one was better.

Speaker 8:
[71:34] I don't know if it's better. I think it's well, I'm not a good person to listen to if you're Caleb, because you don't like this one.

Speaker 6:
[71:42] So yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7:
[71:43] Do you think it hurts?

Speaker 8:
[71:44] I think you will like the second one better.

Speaker 7:
[71:47] OK.

Speaker 6:
[71:47] OK.

Speaker 8:
[71:48] I think.

Speaker 7:
[71:48] Do you think I'll like the second one better?

Speaker 8:
[71:50] Yeah. I think you might like it at least as much.

Speaker 7:
[71:53] OK.

Speaker 8:
[71:54] Because I think it's got, the second one has some genuinely scary moments.

Speaker 7:
[71:59] Like I thought this one did too, like this actually scared me. I also love that feeling. Like that's why I like this movie so much is because I love that feeling.

Speaker 6:
[72:08] This movie had one kill.

Speaker 7:
[72:11] Two technically, Diane died.

Speaker 6:
[72:14] That doesn't count.

Speaker 7:
[72:15] I'm this.

Speaker 8:
[72:17] I also feel like Dr. Avery's is dead. That's just part of the idea. That man doesn't exist.

Speaker 7:
[72:22] I think he's just on vacay.

Speaker 2:
[72:23] He's just on vacay.

Speaker 8:
[72:25] I think they had someone play Dr. Avery's, but they just didn't use it.

Speaker 7:
[72:29] That's interesting.

Speaker 8:
[72:31] I guess they had like a cast of like five people or no, they had more people in the cast, but they only ended up with the however many, like three or four.

Speaker 6:
[72:42] Well, I hope you guys are excited because we're doing Peter Rottentail next.

Speaker 7:
[72:45] Peter Rottentail?

Speaker 8:
[72:47] I'm looking it up. I don't know that I want to look it up, but I will.

Speaker 7:
[72:50] Peter Rottentail. I would look it up, but unfortunately, my phone has died because nobody could provide me a charger.

Speaker 8:
[72:55] I think this tells you everything you need to know.

Speaker 7:
[72:59] We just did Jack Frost 2. You got to do this shit again.

Speaker 6:
[73:03] Oh, this is so much worse than Jack Frost 2. Jack Frost 2 was at least fun.

Speaker 7:
[73:07] Oh, this isn't even fun. You know, we're trying to like, it is like, I mean, that's actually genuinely scary.

Speaker 2:
[73:14] I actually think that the rabbit is kind of scary.

Speaker 7:
[73:18] I think that's literally adorable.

Speaker 8:
[73:19] What?

Speaker 7:
[73:20] You don't think that guy's adorable?

Speaker 8:
[73:22] You good, bro.

Speaker 2:
[73:23] He's so cute.

Speaker 8:
[73:26] Look at your face.

Speaker 7:
[73:28] Look at him, he's like...

Speaker 2:
[73:31] No, I like him.

Speaker 8:
[73:32] I don't want that at all. Horror, no horror. Horror, no horror. So this will be fun.

Speaker 6:
[73:39] Oh, Peter Rottentail is going to be great. Shout out Mark Polonia.

Speaker 8:
[73:42] Shout out that man.

Speaker 6:
[73:43] It's the same dude that made Amityville in space.

Speaker 8:
[73:45] Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Speaker 6:
[73:48] He's kind of a B-movie legend, and this movie is something else. I've tried to cover it many times on Horror Soup, but I can never get through the narration. Like, I can never get through writing down notes about it. So.

Speaker 8:
[74:02] Wow. So maybe that tells me a lot.

Speaker 6:
[74:05] Yeah, I'm like, I'm like 50 50 on us actually doing that. I want to do. We were fucking ridiculous. Ash is an alien now.

Speaker 2:
[74:21] Where are these coming from? I told you. I don't have those.

Speaker 7:
[74:26] Wait, go up and then go to Zoom.

Speaker 8:
[74:29] Go to Zoom, okay.

Speaker 7:
[74:30] Do you see like ZM? And then go to Video Settings, and then Video and Effects, and Video Filters. Oh, you're like my fedora.

Speaker 2:
[74:43] Oh, here we go. Period.

Speaker 8:
[74:48] Glad you're on the slopes over there.

Speaker 7:
[74:50] I got flutter flies.

Speaker 6:
[74:51] I can't believe you really did the whole episode with those sunglasses on.

Speaker 7:
[74:55] I'm going to continue to do different ones. I'm scubing.

Speaker 8:
[74:59] Scubing.

Speaker 7:
[75:00] All right, let me finish the episode in the right way.

Speaker 2:
[75:03] I gotta eat dinner.

Speaker 7:
[75:04] Yeah. Fuck, it's almost six. I have to go to the Mario movie.

Speaker 8:
[75:08] It's so important.

Speaker 7:
[75:10] It's a date. Dite night. Dite night. Dite night. All right. How do we end the show?

Speaker 6:
[75:15] Before Ash threw me off with the whole alien face, I was going to say, I'm like 50-50 on Peter Rottentail. Like, I'm pretty sure we're going to do that one because I want to torture you guys, but it might be so torturous that I might not be able to get through it. So we might have an audible.

Speaker 7:
[75:27] Why don't you just like pick something slightly awful, but at least enjoyable?

Speaker 8:
[75:31] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[75:32] No, no, no.

Speaker 6:
[75:33] You didn't do that for me.

Speaker 7:
[75:35] I did. It's not my pick.

Speaker 8:
[75:36] And I did do that for you.

Speaker 7:
[75:37] It's not.

Speaker 6:
[75:38] But you guys are sisters, so I'm boxing you in together.

Speaker 2:
[75:42] Wow. Oh, no.

Speaker 8:
[75:45] Oh, no.

Speaker 7:
[75:47] Even our last company didn't do that.

Speaker 2:
[75:48] Come on.

Speaker 8:
[75:49] No, they didn't.

Speaker 6:
[75:51] Oh, well.

Speaker 7:
[75:53] Oh, my God.

Speaker 8:
[75:54] All right.

Speaker 6:
[75:55] I gotta do what I gotta do.

Speaker 8:
[75:57] Well, here we go.

Speaker 6:
[75:58] All right, guys, rate the characters.

Speaker 8:
[76:00] Five.

Speaker 6:
[76:01] Just kidding.

Speaker 8:
[76:04] Four. Four. Four, because I think Mika served a purpose.

Speaker 7:
[76:08] One point off for Mika, but he made me.

Speaker 6:
[76:10] I hated them so much. The zero. Wow.

Speaker 8:
[76:13] Damn.

Speaker 7:
[76:13] Not even one for Dr. Friedrich.

Speaker 8:
[76:15] I know. Give it up for him.

Speaker 6:
[76:17] He was all right, I guess.

Speaker 7:
[76:18] Such a homie.

Speaker 6:
[76:19] It doesn't justify anything.

Speaker 8:
[76:21] He just came in and was like, no, won't do it.

Speaker 6:
[76:24] Yeah, pretty much. He really didn't do much. He was kind of just like, oh, this shit's kind of crazy.

Speaker 8:
[76:28] But I like that about him. He's honest, because I too would probably do that.

Speaker 6:
[76:32] Did the story make sense?

Speaker 7:
[76:33] Perfect sense. Yes, five. Five.

Speaker 8:
[76:38] Even you have to say it made sense.

Speaker 7:
[76:40] What doesn't make sense?

Speaker 6:
[76:41] I guess in terms of there's a ghost there, I'll give it like a two and a half.

Speaker 7:
[76:46] Two and a half? What are you taking off that many points for?

Speaker 6:
[76:49] Me wanting to bash my head into the wall.

Speaker 8:
[76:51] I couldn't say how many.

Speaker 2:
[76:53] How many would that be?

Speaker 7:
[76:54] One and a half?

Speaker 8:
[76:54] Why are you taking off those points?

Speaker 7:
[76:58] Once you get her a point, once you do the decimals.

Speaker 8:
[77:02] I'd say Mika's kill was pretty cool.

Speaker 7:
[77:05] I wish we got to see more of it, I will say. So I'll take off one point for that.

Speaker 8:
[77:10] Yeah, full.

Speaker 7:
[77:11] I wanted to see that man's death.

Speaker 6:
[77:12] That's a solid zero.

Speaker 7:
[77:15] I'm rolling my eyes at you underneath the authors.

Speaker 6:
[77:17] It's like a really strong zero. Rate the killer, I guess the demon.

Speaker 7:
[77:24] Five. He's terrifying.

Speaker 8:
[77:26] He's scary.

Speaker 6:
[77:27] That demon was not terrifying. That demon tapped on some walls.

Speaker 7:
[77:30] That demon was ripped her out of bed and dragged her down a hall and bit her.

Speaker 8:
[77:34] Yeah, he bit her.

Speaker 6:
[77:35] Finally.

Speaker 7:
[77:36] He also found a photo from when she was eight that she didn't have.

Speaker 6:
[77:39] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[77:41] He also set her home on fire.

Speaker 8:
[77:42] He did.

Speaker 7:
[77:44] And started a fire in their house. We do.

Speaker 8:
[77:46] He also killed Diane.

Speaker 7:
[77:47] He did.

Speaker 2:
[77:48] Puts some respect on her name.

Speaker 6:
[77:50] We don't know that he did any of those.

Speaker 8:
[77:52] We do. I know he did that stuff.

Speaker 6:
[77:53] That's all hearsay.

Speaker 2:
[77:54] Five.

Speaker 8:
[77:55] What I say.

Speaker 6:
[77:57] Negative five.

Speaker 7:
[77:58] One, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 6:
[78:00] Pacing of the movie? Oh, my fucking God. It is a negative one million.

Speaker 7:
[78:05] You're gonna give it like a four and a half.

Speaker 8:
[78:07] Yeah, I'm giving it a four. I thought it was fine.

Speaker 6:
[78:10] You guys are fucking insane.

Speaker 8:
[78:12] I thought it was great.

Speaker 7:
[78:13] That's why you work with us. It's part of our show.

Speaker 6:
[78:15] Set design.

Speaker 8:
[78:17] I actually really hate the house.

Speaker 6:
[78:20] The house is terrible. OK, I'm glad we can agree on at least one.

Speaker 7:
[78:23] I actually don't like I'm not going to give that a point.

Speaker 8:
[78:27] I'll give it a point just because it served its purpose.

Speaker 7:
[78:29] Oh, you know what? I'll give it half a point for the bead table.

Speaker 2:
[78:31] There you go.

Speaker 7:
[78:32] Point five.

Speaker 6:
[78:33] Yeah, a cool chandelier, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[78:35] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[78:35] All right. Period.

Speaker 6:
[78:44] I already couldn't take this episode seriously, but just staring at Ash with these fucking digital sunglasses on the entire time was just distracting the hell out of me.

Speaker 7:
[78:52] I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:
[78:54] I'm going to live like this.

Speaker 7:
[78:56] So you're going to have to let me live.

Speaker 8:
[79:00] Let me live.

Speaker 6:
[79:01] Look, I accept it. It's okay.

Speaker 2:
[79:02] I'm glad.

Speaker 6:
[79:07] Well, that was an awful movie.

Speaker 7:
[79:10] I disagree.

Speaker 8:
[79:11] Loved it.

Speaker 6:
[79:12] I didn't think I was ever going to have to go through that again. I thought that when I covered it on Horror Soup that that was going to be the last time I'd ever have to witness that movie. And unfortunately, I was very wrong.

Speaker 8:
[79:20] You were.

Speaker 6:
[79:20] I should have known.

Speaker 8:
[79:21] You stay wrong.

Speaker 6:
[79:22] Yeah, I do stay wrong.

Speaker 8:
[79:23] Get ready for number two. I'm very unfortunate.

Speaker 6:
[79:27] At least I haven't seen number two before.

Speaker 8:
[79:29] Yeah, so that'll be an experience.

Speaker 6:
[79:31] Yeah, it'll at least be a new experience and maybe.

Speaker 8:
[79:35] Look at it with fresh eyes.

Speaker 6:
[79:37] It will be with fresh eyes. I've never seen it.

Speaker 8:
[79:39] It does. It's a continuation of the first story.

Speaker 7:
[79:43] I like that.

Speaker 6:
[79:44] Does it continue on from the first movie?

Speaker 8:
[79:46] It does, but in a different place.

Speaker 7:
[79:50] Colt's Face.

Speaker 8:
[79:52] Not Colt's Face.

Speaker 6:
[79:53] Interesting.

Speaker 8:
[79:54] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[79:54] Imagine if they took it to Space.

Speaker 8:
[79:55] It connects though. When you find out how it connects, you're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 7:
[79:59] Doesn't it go after her sister?

Speaker 8:
[80:01] I mean, I wasn't going to say that, but yeah. Cool.

Speaker 7:
[80:06] He's going to watch it.

Speaker 8:
[80:07] She mentioned her sister, Christy, her younger sister when she was telling the story about how it haunted her since she was eight.

Speaker 7:
[80:14] Christy was five.

Speaker 8:
[80:15] Christy is in the second movie.

Speaker 6:
[80:17] I see. I see. Okay.

Speaker 8:
[80:19] So it did. It follows the thing where it's like it's staying in the family.

Speaker 1:
[80:24] Okay.

Speaker 7:
[80:24] Destroy the lineage.

Speaker 1:
[80:26] Destroy them.

Speaker 6:
[80:27] Well, anyway, guys, that was Paranormal Activity.

Speaker 7:
[80:30] No, it wasn't.

Speaker 6:
[80:31] Maybe we'll do Paranormal Activity next. Maybe I'll switch over to that one.

Speaker 2:
[80:35] Jesus.

Speaker 7:
[80:35] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[80:37] I don't want to do that one.

Speaker 2:
[80:38] I don't want to do that.

Speaker 6:
[80:40] I don't want to do that.

Speaker 7:
[80:40] Like how Ash just said, okay, sure.

Speaker 6:
[80:45] That's just because she doesn't want to watch Peter Rottentail.

Speaker 7:
[80:47] Yeah. Period.

Speaker 6:
[80:49] Well, anyway, guys, thanks so much for listening. Tell a friend about the show. Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Find us on the social medias on Instagram at Scream Podcast. Letterboxdmovereviews at Horror Soup Caleb. Bonus content at patreon.com/screampodcast. Scream Podcast at yahoo.com for general inquiries. Horror movie requests at yahoo.com to send horror movie requests. Check out Horror Soup, The Real Watcher, Morbid. Those are all other shows that we do that you can find on Apple, Spotify, Google Podcasts, all those things, all those fun things. Shout out Ethan Hurt, who does our intro music, www.ethanhurt.com. Kyle Herman, who does our outro music. Find him online in general just by searching Kyle Herman. He's the only one in the world.

Speaker 8:
[81:40] This show is fiberglass insulation in Mika's fingers after he fished out that photo of Katie when she was eight years old out of the attic.

Speaker 7:
[81:48] This show is a deep puncture wound with many teeth into your side.

Speaker 6:
[81:53] This show is a house creaking constantly.

Speaker 8:
[81:56] I'll punch you right here first.

Speaker 10:
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