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Speaker 1:
[00:08] The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
Speaker 2:
[00:10] Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, De-Influenced.
Speaker 1:
[00:15] How are you feeling? You're sore?
Speaker 2:
[00:17] I'm sore. I did my first workout. It's so crazy how workouts really do like produce some type of endorphin or hormone or something because I cried in my workout.
Speaker 1:
[00:30] Really?
Speaker 2:
[00:31] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[00:32] You just started bawling?
Speaker 2:
[00:34] It's so funny how like this medication I'm on, the one that's like for postpartum, typically like Lexapro when I started Lexapro, I was numb to everything for a while until my body got used to it. This doesn't numb my emotions.
Speaker 1:
[00:49] It brings them out.
Speaker 2:
[00:51] No, I wouldn't say it brings them out. It definitely, I'm not crying as much as I was. I was crying probably five times a day. I don't know if I've explained this on the podcast, but did I explain how I felt like every day was my last?
Speaker 1:
[01:06] Just tell them again.
Speaker 2:
[01:07] Okay, so this postpartum, the weirdest thing was like, I was living almost so much in the moment that it like hurt because I truly thought that every single moment, like I would like be making lunch for the kids. And I'm like, this is the last lunch I'll ever make. Like, so you're almost like so emotional about the moment that you can't appreciate the moment because you're so sad that the moment's gonna end.
Speaker 1:
[01:32] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[01:33] I know it sounds so crazy, but apparently it's like very common. Like it's, and it was like, I just, and you feel like today is your last day so you have to soak up everything. And then like Stella would come out and it makes it hard to like live life because then I like can't like, you know, discipline my kids or I can't like be like, think about the future. Cause I'm like, yeah, whatever you want, like you want ice cream and popcorn and everything. It's my last day. So let's just do it all.
Speaker 1:
[01:59] And it's your last day because you're gonna die?
Speaker 2:
[02:03] No, it's like, you don't.
Speaker 1:
[02:03] You just are like wanting to soak up every minute. Like you don't want it to go away.
Speaker 2:
[02:07] I truly felt like, I like these are my last days. I don't know why. Like I almost felt like I was like 99 years old and I've like lived my life. I'm like, this is a good time. And I'm like, it was so, it's so weird. So it's taken that away to where I'm like, okay, I'm not, I'm not a hundred years old. I still have so much to live.
Speaker 1:
[02:29] So was that a hormonal response slash imbalance? Cause didn't Allie, your friend Allie, didn't she have feelings of homesickness related to her?
Speaker 2:
[02:37] So apparently there's something called, starts with a D, but it's like when you breastfeed, you feel really homesick. And yeah, I guess I could maybe relate it to that same feeling of like, I miss you so much, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1:
[02:51] Well, it's all like hormones being reproduced and added back and then creating these like very interesting emotions.
Speaker 2:
[02:58] Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[02:59] But now you have a synthetic hormone and you're a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 2:
[03:02] Yes, synthetic.
Speaker 1:
[03:04] It is synthetic.
Speaker 2:
[03:05] Yeah, it's fake.
Speaker 1:
[03:05] Yeah, it's a fake hormone.
Speaker 2:
[03:07] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[03:07] It's not God-given.
Speaker 2:
[03:08] It's like a lab grown one.
Speaker 1:
[03:09] It's lab grown, lab grown hormones.
Speaker 2:
[03:11] So I'm really just not, I'm a synthetic Dani.
Speaker 1:
[03:14] Yeah, you're a synthetic Dani. You also got an MRI today.
Speaker 2:
[03:18] But sorry, also with the Xerx duvet, Xerx duvet, I've been taking half. I never, I never took the full amount.
Speaker 1:
[03:24] Well, you took two.
Speaker 2:
[03:25] The first day. The first two days. It knocked me to like a different stratosphere.
Speaker 1:
[03:31] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:31] So I decided to come back down and just be taking half.
Speaker 1:
[03:33] And then you took one.
Speaker 2:
[03:35] Yeah, which is half. Oh, half, half.
Speaker 1:
[03:37] Oh, okay. I thought you went down to like half a pill.
Speaker 2:
[03:40] You're supposed to be taking two a day. I've only been taking one a day.
Speaker 1:
[03:43] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:44] So I'm only half synthetic.
Speaker 1:
[03:45] Cause you didn't like, I forgot what.
Speaker 2:
[03:48] Made me drowsy.
Speaker 1:
[03:49] Yeah, you do not like to be tired.
Speaker 2:
[03:51] No, I'm more of an uppity kind of girl.
Speaker 1:
[03:53] Yeah. Yeah. You, you do not like, you would like, you would rather be sick than tired.
Speaker 2:
[03:59] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[03:59] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:59] For sure. For sure. So, yeah. So then I got an MRI. I'm just like, I'm all over the place. Only because I get, I decided I was going to finally go get Botox to relax in my muscles. But like, he's a neurologist, you know? So he's got to check all the boxes. So he's like, let's just make sure you, let's get you an MRI. I'm like-
Speaker 1:
[04:21] It's funny. I was sitting next to Dani when she was filling out the paperwork and she was like, you can't be telling them everything. Because she, it was like, have you felt-
Speaker 2:
[04:30] Depressed.
Speaker 1:
[04:31] Depression. And she checked no. And I was like, Dani, be honest. And you were like, listen. You got mad and you were like, listen. Don't be sending them down rabbit holes. You got to control the information flow, because otherwise this is going to become a circus.
Speaker 2:
[04:44] It's so true, though. It's like, you got to just kind of get what you want out of them. And so you got to choose the information. It's like, if you want botox in your shoulders to stop getting headaches, let's not go down this whole mental health path. Like, you know, I don't want to send them down some wild goose chase. It's like, just give them enough to where they know that I just am there for the botox in my shoulders. So, but you know, it was like, protocol to give me the MRI just to make sure. So that's why I got the MRI. Not because there's, I don't think there's anything wrong. You know, but it's like, he was like, you know, I was like, sure. Yeah. But the only thing about the MRI is, I got one probably six years ago, maybe seven, and I was very, very claustrophobic in there. I almost panicked, you know? So then I heard that, you know, some people get Xanaxes like before they go in, cause they're, it like can make you freak out. So I didn't get the Xanaxes. I was like, too much, you know, too many, too many things. So I just closed my eyes the entire time and it was fine. It was just so tempting sometimes to open though. But I start, I opened while I was going in and that big machine just starts, it gets so close to your face and it's so, have you ever gotten an MRI?
Speaker 1:
[05:59] No.
Speaker 2:
[06:00] Oh, it's insane. Like you kind of feel like you're being buried alive. Like, yeah. So the machine just like, it's this massive machine, probably millions and millions of dollars worth, blah, blah, blah. It's probably like millions of dollars worth. And just all this metal like spinning around you, you kind of feel like you're in a spaceship and it just goes, it's so loud. It's like me, me, me, me, me, me. Like literally like that. And it spins around you and it gets this close to your face. This big machine.
Speaker 1:
[06:31] I'm like kind of uneasy just thinking about this.
Speaker 2:
[06:34] Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I kind of felt like it's kind of like what you would think would happen if you were being abducted by aliens.
Speaker 1:
[06:41] When are they going to give you the results?
Speaker 2:
[06:43] Wednesday, two business days. So, yeah, I remember last time I was like really upset because I went and got my MRI by myself. And it just kind of shows like how much I've grown as a person.
Speaker 1:
[06:56] Well, I said that I would go with you and then you just bolted.
Speaker 2:
[06:59] Well, I was running late. Oh, and I was going to. So I actually uber there because I like. Yeah, like really running late.
Speaker 1:
[07:09] OK, well, I could have taken you.
Speaker 2:
[07:11] That's OK. Yeah, it's OK. You can't be in there anyway.
Speaker 1:
[07:15] Oh really?
Speaker 2:
[07:15] Yeah, I don't really know what's going on, but it's probably not good for you to be in the room.
Speaker 1:
[07:20] What's magnetic? Do you tell about any metal you have in your body?
Speaker 2:
[07:23] So yes, that was the other thing that I kind of started. I forgot to tell him I had a tooth implant.
Speaker 1:
[07:27] That's really dangerous.
Speaker 2:
[07:28] But I think I surely they're not like I know I have a screw in my gums but surely it's not metal.
Speaker 1:
[07:33] I think there's like stories of it getting like ripped out. Did you feel any pain in your tooth?
Speaker 2:
[07:40] I still got them all too.
Speaker 1:
[07:42] You got lucky.
Speaker 2:
[07:43] You got lucky?
Speaker 1:
[07:44] Oh, they're crooked now though.
Speaker 2:
[07:45] Are they?
Speaker 1:
[07:45] Yeah. I was really sick this week.
Speaker 2:
[07:48] I know.
Speaker 1:
[07:49] And I never get sick.
Speaker 2:
[07:50] I know.
Speaker 1:
[07:52] It was horrible. I'm so sorry for all the times that you're sick. I have such a greater degree of empathy for you.
Speaker 2:
[07:57] Oh, that means a lot to me.
Speaker 1:
[07:59] No, I do for sure.
Speaker 2:
[08:01] It stinks, right?
Speaker 1:
[08:02] It's horrible, man.
Speaker 2:
[08:02] It's horrible and you feel so guilty.
Speaker 1:
[08:05] I felt pretty guilty. I felt thankful for you. I said a lot of sentimental things.
Speaker 2:
[08:10] That's because I was nice to you.
Speaker 1:
[08:12] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[08:13] I'm not thankful for you whenever I'm sick. You're mean to me sometimes. Anyway, sorry.
Speaker 1:
[08:21] But yeah, it was horrible. It strep throat.
Speaker 2:
[08:24] Yours was pretty gnarly.
Speaker 1:
[08:26] It was so bad, man. So, so bad. And I just, you know, I just, I felt like it was the end. I was like, man, I had a good run.
Speaker 2:
[08:37] Yeah. It's, it's a strep really is brutal.
Speaker 1:
[08:40] It's brutal.
Speaker 2:
[08:41] It was funny when I came in, you were getting an IV. I was like.
Speaker 1:
[08:45] Well, I was, I felt so guilty. And I was like, I don't want to leave you with four kids. I was like, so I literally texted the nurse and I was like, Hey, can you knock this thing out? I was going to get a steroid shot, whatever I need to do. But steroid shots don't help strep.
Speaker 2:
[08:59] So the thing about strep is it's actually the best sickness to get because there's an antibiotic for it. With my flu that I usually get or COVID that I'm like, there's nothing, you just have to write it out. And that's what stinks so much about my sicknesses usually. Because strep, there is a way to like fix it. Sinus infection too, I believe. But I'm just a flu girl.
Speaker 1:
[09:22] Yeah, you switch flu A, flu B, flu A, flu B.
Speaker 2:
[09:25] And then sometimes we just throw a little COVID in there. Why not? Just stir it up. Actually, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[09:31] Strep for spring break.
Speaker 2:
[09:32] Strep for, yeah, strep was for Easter.
Speaker 1:
[09:34] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[09:34] I had strep on Easter weekend. That was hard. But yeah, I think, hopefully I've been praying that our kids still get sick from it. The doctor did say that typically babies, like usually babies will get it.
Speaker 1:
[09:46] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[09:47] But I could see still they're shutting.
Speaker 1:
[09:50] Who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 2:
[09:52] I rebuke strep in the name of Jesus in our household.
Speaker 1:
[09:55] There we go. Love it. Preach. Preach girlfriend.
Speaker 2:
[10:00] Oh, let's look at our script. I forgot. I didn't even pick this up today. Oh, I'm going to a gala tonight. I'm excited. I feel bad.
Speaker 1:
[10:11] Why?
Speaker 2:
[10:12] For my stylist, Alex. So she hadn't seen me in a while because I haven't been going places. But she styled me for this event and a lot of the dresses were really tight on my tummy, which I kind of look like I'm probably like, I don't know, 20 weeks pregnant right now. And just from postpartum. And she got a lot of hate in my comments and stuff. People were like, this stylist, she's probably never had a baby. I'm like, no, she hasn't. So like-
Speaker 1:
[10:40] That's rude.
Speaker 2:
[10:40] It's just rude. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[10:43] How much hate are we talking though?
Speaker 2:
[10:44] She had a talking, she had some talking heads.
Speaker 1:
[10:47] That's good. That's a good degree.
Speaker 2:
[10:49] Talking heads is like when they take your video and then like green screen it level three. I'd say if there's five levels.
Speaker 1:
[10:59] Level one is comments. Level two is DMs.
Speaker 2:
[11:03] Comments, DMs.
Speaker 1:
[11:04] Level three is-
Speaker 2:
[11:06] Resharing on your stories with comments.
Speaker 1:
[11:11] Or talking heads. I would put all that in the same category. Level four is-
Speaker 2:
[11:16] Probably media gets involved. Level five is like-
Speaker 1:
[11:21] Banned.
Speaker 2:
[11:22] You're gone.
Speaker 1:
[11:23] De-platformed.
Speaker 2:
[11:24] Pissed.
Speaker 1:
[11:26] There's very few that make it to level five.
Speaker 2:
[11:29] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[11:29] It's kind of like- Well, you probably never played it. It's like Grand Theft Auto when you get the stars and it gets like progressively harder to survive the more stars you get.
Speaker 2:
[11:38] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[11:39] It's like in level one, like the bike cops come after you. Level two, crime. If you keep breaking into cars, the cops come after you and level three, it's like the FBI comes after you and level four, the army comes after you.
Speaker 2:
[11:56] Yikes.
Speaker 1:
[11:57] Yeah. It's a fun game.
Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[16:44] Should we talk about Alex? Where's Alex?
Speaker 1:
[16:47] Oh, Cooper?
Speaker 2:
[16:49] Earl?
Speaker 1:
[16:50] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[16:50] Cooper vs. Earl.
Speaker 1:
[16:53] I had, you know that I had the exact same. Did we talk about this last week? I think it was over text. Oh, it was over text. I had the exact same theory that Claudia and Bato said.
Speaker 2:
[17:07] I didn't listen to that episode. Tell me.
Speaker 1:
[17:09] So, my theory is that what happened is I think that Alex Cooper is a very business minded individual.
Speaker 2:
[17:17] Right.
Speaker 1:
[17:17] Okay. I think that Alex Earl is like business, but like more of like a girl's like hangout.
Speaker 2:
[17:25] Girl to girl.
Speaker 1:
[17:26] So, my theory is that Alex Earl signed with Unwell, which was a great move for Alex Cooper. And Alex Earl was like, oh, cool. Like, I'll do that. Then what I think happened was that Alex Earl's dad started managing her. Okay. And he was like, wait, like this was a terrible deal. Why did you sign this? Yada, yada, yada. And so, the fight isn't really Alex Cooper versus Alex Earl. It is Matt, Alex Cooper's husband. Yeah. Versus Alex Earl's dad. And now the girls are probably fighting. But I think it was like kind of the husbands or the males that are backing these people, trying to kind of be like, wait, who's actually bringing more value or creating more value here? And then I think what genuinely started to happen was Alex Earl started eclipsing Alex Cooper. And I think Alex Cooper is very competitive. And so then that girl to girl, blogger to blogger dynamic started being created. And then I think the relationship severed. But I would bet that Alex Cooper still has hold on some of Alex Earl's revenue. Whether it's, I think it's over the Sips Margs company if I had to guess. Because Alex Cooper has kind of a vertical now in beverage distribution because of her unwell brand. So it would have been easy for her to be like, okay, let's launch this for you. Because that was the whole unwell brand. The whole unwell brand is party girls. That kind of edgy girl that's like, whatever. And so I think that that's why Alex Earl probably followed through on her contract of promoting Sips, but then in the background was working on her own thing, which is the real actives, which I don't think Alex Cooper has a part of. And now Alex Earl feels really powerful because that was hugely successful. So then when Alex Cooper talks about her, she's like, whatever, I'm untouchable.
Speaker 2:
[19:37] Okay, so the notes say Alex's podcast was dropped or left. Alex left the Unwell Network in February 2025. Alex Cooper said Alex Earl kept full ownership, implying it wasn't a messy firing. Alex Earl later hinted the situation was a hot mess behind the scenes, and fans started to suspect that they had tension. So through 2025 and 2026, both sides posted cryptic TikToks and reposted by each other. Earl reposted content criticizing Alex. One of them was comparing her to a grim reaper. But nobody obviously has said anything publicly. There's been a lot of celebrities like Breonna Chicken Fry has made some videos about it saying, Alex Cooper is a mean girl. Everybody is really on Alex Earl's side. I think that Alex Cooper finally publicly called Alex Earl out on TikTok accusing her of being passive-aggressive, creating all this fake drama, avoiding just being direct. And so Alex Earl said that she's going to kind of, she said, okay, on it, like she was gonna make a video kind of telling her side of things, but she still hasn't. A lot of people think it's staged because you see the video that was filmed horizontally at when she found out when like the morning after Coachella, they filmed Alex Earl reacting to Alex Cooper's video and it was filmed horizontally.
Speaker 1:
[21:02] But couldn't have that been for her reality TV show?
Speaker 2:
[21:06] Yeah, I think what happens is this drama, here's what happens I think whenever you have a TV show slash you're famous and you're like involved in drama. I think this happens on a lot of reality TV shows. I think the drama is real. I do think that a lot of people are like this is staged, this is fake, but I think the drama is real. I think that Alex Cooper is just a business girl. She's not a girl, she will cut your throat to get a deal done. I think she will post content, she tries to get people to say things, clip, whatever. And I think she got something embarrassing of Alex Earl or there's this TikTok of Alex Earl or Cooper and Alex Earl that I think was deleted. And it's Alex Cooper has a grip on Alex Earl's head and he's like banging it against the table. And it says something derogatory or provocative and I can't remember what it was. But I think I've heard that Alex Earl was really upset about that, but Cooper wouldn't delete it or something, something like that. And yeah, I'm sure there's some really unfair deal that happened with the podcast. And I think Cooper is just like not, she's not in it for the friendships and the good time, she's in it for the dollar sign.
Speaker 1:
[22:26] And to be clear, this is, sorry, I missed this part of my theory. I think that the deal that Alex Cooper gave to Alex Earl for signing on to Unwell Network was probably a pretty straightforward deal. I think what happened was as Alex Earl blew up beyond Unwell, her and her dad started regretting signing the deal. And when you do a deal and then you regret it, it's easier to kind of like materialize the other party as the enemy.
Speaker 3:
[22:53] 100%.
Speaker 1:
[22:54] And you do that because at the end of the day, you're mad at yourself for doing it.
Speaker 2:
[22:59] But then you're also like, Cooper, you were my friend and you won't let me out of this deal.
Speaker 1:
[23:03] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[23:03] Like we're supposed to be friends supporting each other.
Speaker 1:
[23:05] 100%.
Speaker 2:
[23:06] But let me out of this. And Cooper's like, no, dude, you signed the deal.
Speaker 1:
[23:09] It's business and she's straight business. And so I don't think Alex Cooper necessarily did anything wrong.
Speaker 2:
[23:15] I guess we're gonna, I do think that Alex Earl will reveal what happened.
Speaker 1:
[23:21] I don't know, because I think that if she revealed the actual facts, I don't think they're damning enough for Alex Cooper, to be honest.
Speaker 2:
[23:29] But the thing is, even if it was business, people are so, Alex Earl right now. It's the same thing. If you look at Slo-Mo, what's her name? Not Jessie, Taylor, Taylor Frankie Paul. If you see what she is posting lately and you read the comments, people are so for her. They are like, no one is upset with her. If you read her DM, and maybe she's deleting them, but nobody is, they are so team Taylor Frankie Paul. That's how I feel like Alex Earl right now is. She's like, even if Alex Earl was like, yeah, I signed a bad deal, but she wouldn't let me out, but she's made it sound like we were friends. People would be like, oh, she's such a brat for doing that.
Speaker 1:
[24:12] Well, it'd be split. You'd have those girls who don't care about business, and they're like, no, this is girl code. And then you would have people that are like, I don't understand, this is on you. It's just business.
Speaker 2:
[24:21] But I think more people would be like, this is girl code. And especially because they acted like they were friends. It's like why people love Jake Shane so much because Jake Shane was interviewed by, I think it was Rolling Stone. And he told the interviewer like, yeah, if I interview anyone and they say something that they regret, like I 100% will always cut it out. Like if I have celebrities that I'm interviewing. And the Rolling Stone interviewer was like, really? But isn't that what journalism is all about? Is capturing that like one slip up or that one thing that they say. And he was like, I don't care. Like I will always, he's like, it doesn't matter to me. Like I would rather, you know, I don't want to like mess with people's mental health. And I want to give them that moment and give them that peace. And like, that's why people love him. Because it's like beyond business.
Speaker 1:
[25:08] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[25:10] And I think Earl would go.
Speaker 1:
[25:11] It's just funny because like, no one's reading the Rolling Stone. It's just.
Speaker 2:
[25:15] It was a podcast.
Speaker 1:
[25:16] I know, but no one's like, no one's listening to the Rolling Stone. So he like, set a side point. That journalist is like trying to like vie for like actual journalism. And it's like, no one cares.
Speaker 2:
[25:27] Right. Exactly. But yeah, it shows like people are human. Like, you know, and so I think that's probably what happened. But.
Speaker 1:
[25:37] And I think that if even if there's a 50-50 divide on like, you just signed a deal, like this is business. I think that Alex Cooper probably has enough enemies that would also come out of the woodwork that would then pile on to support Alex Earl. Whereas like, I don't think that if Alex Cooper was winning the battle, a lot of people are going to come and pile on Alex Earl.
Speaker 2:
[26:02] Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, she seems generally pretty liked. Cooper is just like a really good businesswoman. Yeah, she's a really good interviewer. I'm sorry if you like people that think that she's not, she is.
Speaker 1:
[26:14] She's, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[26:14] She's really good and she's savage and like, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[26:20] It's all style. Like, I mean, there's very shrewd people like that in business and they are successful. There's also people who do business, not like that, who are successful.
Speaker 2:
[26:31] It's hard to find that in between.
Speaker 1:
[26:34] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[26:34] I mean, it's like, I've been asked a lot of times, like I'm like paying for a service and people are like, tag me and share this. Like, please, it's my work or whatever. And I don't mind doing that, but like it's also a whole, it's like a whole nother thing for me to like put on my list of things to do and to worry about, but sometimes I'm so worried about the relationship that I'm like, I'll just do whatever you say because I'm so scared of like upsetting people. But I do feel like sometimes I do want to have stricter boundaries where I'm like, hey, I'm sorry. Like this was like a service I paid for. Like I really don't feel like working today, you know, and sharing what I, you know, but it's hard because I also want to be nice and help people, you know, so it's kind of like, you have to find that in between and I'm like, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:
[27:17] No, I do. I know what you mean. We, yeah, I mean, we've, I think that we have one style of doing business and we know others that have a more Alex Cooper style. And I just, I feel like it's a very similar situation that I've been pulling a lot of my inspiration from where it's like, ooh, like it's not like there's like one that's right and one that's wrong. Like they both have pros and cons. Like I feel like our style, like we're maybe not always getting the best, best, best deal, right? So we're conceding in the spirit of a longer term relationship. Whereas I think other people will get as much out of they, as they can out of every negotiation, every deal, but then no one wants to work with them.
Speaker 2:
[28:08] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:08] But both can be successful. It just depends on like your personality, your style. But I think Alex Cooper is like, hey, I'm out for me, you should be out for you, this is a game, we're gonna play, and I'm a savage.
Speaker 2:
[28:22] I'm a savage. Classy, bougie, fashion.
Speaker 1:
[28:27] So yeah. The only thing that's really interesting about this whole thing that made me feel like it was manufactured, I don't think it's manufactured anymore, was that they both have Kate Bailey.
Speaker 2:
[28:37] I don't think that matters.
Speaker 1:
[28:40] But it's an awkward position for her.
Speaker 2:
[28:42] I think it makes it like more, no for sure, but I think it makes it more, I think that's-
Speaker 1:
[28:46] Kate Bailey is her publicist. Both of their publicists and she's like the best in the game.
Speaker 2:
[28:50] Yeah, but I think that that's what makes it like, that's why they have so much tension.
Speaker 1:
[28:56] I also don't think it's contrived because I don't think that this is good for Alex Earle's business right now, because her real actives was going up and to the right. And I think that this-
Speaker 2:
[29:05] Wait, I feel like it's like so good for her business right now. Like I am people that are Earle girls are like, I want to support Alex Earle.
Speaker 1:
[29:16] Yeah, but it's very distracting to the launch of her business, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:
[29:22] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[29:24] I mean, it's not going to hurt her business.
Speaker 2:
[29:26] I think it helps.
Speaker 1:
[29:27] Yeah, if there's a campaign that she comes up with somehow tying her product to this beef, then I'll say it's contrived. I'll be like, Kate Bailey, you're a genius. All hail your storytelling and your PR. But yeah.
Speaker 2:
[29:45] Yeah, so anyway, I feel like what I was going to say about reality TV, and I don't think that any of this is fake. I think that when you're on reality TV or you're playing the game on social media, the drama isn't fake. You just latch on to the drama because you know that it's going to help at the end of the day. So it's like you try to just kind of squeeze every single bit of momentum out of it. So it's not fake, but then you're doing things for the drama, you know? And it's like things that you probably wouldn't do if the cameras weren't on. You're like, well, now the cameras are on, like, let's make a story out of it. Yeah. You kind of ride the wave with the drama. Like I could have done that multiple times probably in my career. What I could have been like, oh, I saw this one video and I've done it a few times where I made a response back or whatever. And I probably shouldn't have. And then you could just go back and forth and back and forth and just like, and then it becomes this thing.
Speaker 1:
[30:43] It's tough, dude. Opening up that can of worms, you better be ready for a fight.
Speaker 2:
[30:48] Sometimes it's fun if it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1:
[30:51] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
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Speaker 2:
[34:56] Yeah. So, you're leaving me this weekend.
Speaker 1:
[35:02] I'm going to do a bachelor party.
Speaker 2:
[35:03] You seem so tired.
Speaker 1:
[35:05] No, my contact is I slept in them and I forgot to change them.
Speaker 2:
[35:10] Why do you do that?
Speaker 1:
[35:11] I don't know. It's silly. Every time I do it, I regret it.
Speaker 2:
[35:15] Why don't you get LASIK? It's time. It takes 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:
[35:18] Does it really?
Speaker 2:
[35:19] It takes 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:
[35:21] But then don't I have to wear patches over my eyes for like?
Speaker 2:
[35:23] Two days. Two weeks. No, no.
Speaker 1:
[35:29] Yeah, it might be time.
Speaker 2:
[35:31] It's so worth it. It's the best thing I ever did.
Speaker 1:
[35:33] I'm sure like it's the prices have probably come down to.
Speaker 2:
[35:37] I got mine for free 99.
Speaker 1:
[35:39] Really?
Speaker 2:
[35:40] So the guy and the big guy Dallas that does it, Key Whitman, Dr. Key.
Speaker 1:
[35:45] Oh, yeah. Key Whitman.
Speaker 2:
[35:46] Key Whitman. He's like he's got the big building on the side of the highway. Yeah. So we're but so like he was like, Oh, this could be some leasing.
Speaker 1:
[35:54] Let me give you site.
Speaker 2:
[35:55] Let me give you site. So yeah, I don't know how much it is, but I did a long time ago. Best thing I ever did.
Speaker 1:
[36:00] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[36:02] Oh, we have a Q&A.
Speaker 1:
[36:03] Oh, let's do that. That's fun.
Speaker 2:
[36:05] Okay. So today we have a Q&A, which is so fun because we haven't done a Q&A in a very long time. Yeah. Do you want something deep or something light?
Speaker 1:
[36:15] Something light.
Speaker 2:
[36:16] Okay. What is your most useless talent? Oh. He has a really good balance.
Speaker 1:
[36:23] You've always said that. That's so sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[36:26] Babe, I love you so much. Like your balance is impeccable. I've never seen someone balance like you. It's kind of crazy. He like, you should have been like a professional skateboarder or like a BMX biker. Like that was your sport. You just didn't know. Nobody pushed you. You weren't a football player. You shouldn't have done tennis. Nothing like that. Like you should have been like a professional skier.
Speaker 1:
[36:49] Or surfer.
Speaker 2:
[36:51] Surfing. I could see that.
Speaker 1:
[36:52] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[36:53] He's really good balancing. Huh? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[36:56] When did you first notice this? Like what activity have I done where you've noticed my balance?
Speaker 2:
[37:00] Probably skiing.
Speaker 1:
[37:01] Okay. That's fair.
Speaker 2:
[37:03] Y'all, he's like so good at skiing. It's so weird because I don't really picture you as athletic.
Speaker 1:
[37:08] No, you, in fact, you typically are very forthcoming with people that I'm not athletic.
Speaker 2:
[37:14] Well, it was the day that I...
Speaker 1:
[37:15] New people.
Speaker 2:
[37:16] No, it was the day that I threw a football further than you that I was like...
Speaker 1:
[37:21] No, listen, footballs are hard.
Speaker 2:
[37:23] Football and basketball is really... Football and basketball is like, it's really painful for Jordan to watch. No, and tennis, you're not good at that either. But babe, you are so good, like skateboarding.
Speaker 1:
[37:37] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[37:37] But like, you should have been like a motocross champion. But I'm glad that you're not because it's a little scary.
Speaker 1:
[37:44] That's kind of an interesting crowd.
Speaker 2:
[37:45] I think, you know why I think you're so good at balance is you're so loosey goosey. You have to be like very like relaxed to be balanced. I'm like, this.
Speaker 1:
[37:53] Which is so weird that I wouldn't be a great dancer. I know it's so weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[38:00] But yeah, so he has very good balance and I don't know if it's useless.
Speaker 1:
[38:04] But that's so sweet.
Speaker 2:
[38:07] What's my most useless talent? I know I'm not very talented.
Speaker 1:
[38:14] No, you're very talented.
Speaker 2:
[38:15] No, it's okay. Like if I had to do a talent show, I would have nothing.
Speaker 1:
[38:20] You do know the, what's the Jewish prayer?
Speaker 2:
[38:24] Baruch Chata, I don't know. It comes in handy actually.
Speaker 1:
[38:29] True, true. She's able to very quickly relate to Jewish people.
Speaker 2:
[38:32] Yeah, because all my friends are Jewish growing up.
Speaker 1:
[38:34] That's true. Yeah, it has come in handy, but you do know that prayer and that does, it's not useless, it's come in handy.
Speaker 2:
[38:41] But the only thing I really wish I knew that I didn't is the Macarena.
Speaker 1:
[38:45] It's a very easy dance.
Speaker 2:
[38:48] No, I know the dance. I want to learn the words.
Speaker 1:
[38:51] Oh, why?
Speaker 2:
[38:53] Because I just think it would be so cool if the Macarena comes on. And I'm like, the pukatikapakitapakadana.
Speaker 1:
[39:01] Yeah, I would say that's pretty useless.
Speaker 2:
[39:03] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:04] That's pretty useless.
Speaker 2:
[39:04] But it would be cool. So, anyway.
Speaker 1:
[39:11] I'm trying to think. There's nothing that you do that I feel like, oh, that's useless.
Speaker 2:
[39:14] I could cross-eyed myself. Is it? Wait, am I cross-eyed?
Speaker 1:
[39:19] I would say maybe. Well, no, that could have come in handy too. I'm going to say country western swing dancing.
Speaker 2:
[39:25] But yeah, I haven't practiced it in a long time. So I'm probably not as good.
Speaker 1:
[39:29] There's a lot of camps that you went to that were probably useless.
Speaker 2:
[39:32] Acting camp. I went to newspaper camp.
Speaker 1:
[39:35] That was funny. Typing camp.
Speaker 2:
[39:38] Typing camp, computer camp, computer breakdown camp. That was where we took apart the computers and created things.
Speaker 1:
[39:45] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[39:46] I went to, oh, I went to a comedy camp. I really thought I was going to, I really thought that I was like going to have my own show that was kind of like Amanda Bynes slash That's So Raven. But really Amanda Bynes, like the Amanda Bynes show was like my, what do you call it?
Speaker 1:
[40:04] Muse.
Speaker 2:
[40:05] Totally. Like I was like, I am destined for that.
Speaker 1:
[40:09] You kind of did it.
Speaker 2:
[40:10] I know kind of in my own way.
Speaker 1:
[40:11] Yeah, in your own way.
Speaker 2:
[40:13] But that, like I wanted to be Amanda Bynes.
Speaker 1:
[40:15] Right.
Speaker 2:
[40:16] She was just everything. So yeah, I went to comedy camp and improv camp did that one too. I think my mom just didn't want to hang out with me in the summers.
Speaker 1:
[40:28] I think that's what happened.
Speaker 2:
[40:31] Because I would just like, and my camps would overlap a lot of times. So I'd be gone from like, the morning was basketball camp and then improv camp was later on.
Speaker 1:
[40:40] Do you want a deep one or a light one?
Speaker 2:
[40:41] Light one first.
Speaker 1:
[40:43] Okay.
Speaker 2:
[40:44] You can give me a deep one, whatever.
Speaker 1:
[40:46] What's your toxic trait?
Speaker 2:
[40:48] Oh, I have so many.
Speaker 1:
[40:51] Why are you talking to yourself like that? I rebuke that.
Speaker 2:
[40:53] No, but that's like plenty of toxic traits.
Speaker 1:
[40:55] Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2:
[40:56] Like I...
Speaker 1:
[40:58] I rebuke you talking down to yourself.
Speaker 2:
[41:00] Okay. But no, it's like funny, toxic traits.
Speaker 1:
[41:02] Okay. Okay. As long as you think they're funny.
Speaker 2:
[41:04] I had a really good one that, oh my gosh. I mean, I eat a lot of peanut butter, a lot of peanut butter. Like sometimes I just will go in there and just get a scoop like all the time really. But yeah, my toxic trait is peanut butter. And I'm buying really expensive bags and then returning them the next day.
Speaker 1:
[41:29] That is so true.
Speaker 2:
[41:30] I do that a lot. And then I often, if anything is wrong, I'll take Advil.
Speaker 1:
[41:38] That is so true.
Speaker 2:
[41:39] Like my eye could hurt. Like, and I'll be like, I'm popping some Advil. That's a toxic trait. I'm getting off my Zyrtec.
Speaker 1:
[41:46] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[41:47] So I'm like pretty soon, I'm really just going to be on Lexapro.
Speaker 1:
[41:52] That's big.
Speaker 2:
[41:53] I know.
Speaker 1:
[41:56] Was it our conversation that inspired this?
Speaker 2:
[41:58] No, I've never, I've always, so there's one study that shows like a correlation, there's a correlation between like two things that lead to an early death. And that's the amount of prescriptions you're on.
Speaker 1:
[42:14] Really?
Speaker 2:
[42:15] Yeah, we've talked about this on the podcast. But the one correlation is if the people that take most medications typically die earlier. But like that kind of makes sense because maybe they're, you know, they have diabetes, so they're taking more medications. And so I don't know if they're, they didn't specify like mental health medications, but still I think the goal in life is to be on as little, least amount of medications as possible. Like Goey, like even when she, she's like 95 years old, like she was like taking like one medication. My dad is very healthy. Every time he's getting, you know, he goes to the doctor, like you look great, my dad like never has taken medications. So me and my mom are a little screwed, but you know, I've been trying to get off of anything that I like, I wouldn't say depend on, but like, yeah. So I got off of my Wellbutrin, I'm not on that anymore. The Zerzuve is going to end because it's only a 14-day cycle. I'm not on Amoxicillin anymore from my strep throat. So I'm really will just be on Lexapro.
Speaker 1:
[43:14] Wow, you're going to be all natural.
Speaker 2:
[43:16] Almost.
Speaker 1:
[43:17] Almost, I mean, you think you'll ever try to get off the Lexapro?
Speaker 2:
[43:21] I don't know, maybe when I'm like, my kids are older. It's kind of hard right now. I'm needed.
Speaker 1:
[43:31] Do you read your Reddit feeds?
Speaker 2:
[43:32] No.
Speaker 1:
[43:34] We kind of made a vow.
Speaker 2:
[43:34] Sometimes, I would say like, yeah, I think I broke that vow a couple of times. Because I have looked at it before.
Speaker 1:
[43:43] Brave. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[43:45] You know, but like what I've found, it's like, I don't know, for some reason, when I get hate, it doesn't hurt me as much these days.
Speaker 1:
[43:55] Sometimes, when she feels like she's not getting enough hate, she actually says, I want to stir the pot because I want more of it.
Speaker 2:
[44:03] Okay. That's not true. I just like-
Speaker 1:
[44:06] No, here's what she says, actually. She's like, I'm irrelevant. No one hates me anymore.
Speaker 2:
[44:12] I always know when I'm relevant because I'm getting hate.
Speaker 1:
[44:16] And then there's other times where she'll find that other bloggers have more haters than her and she's like, why does she have so many?
Speaker 2:
[44:23] Why doesn't she have a stalker? Well, she has a stalker. Why don't I have a stalker?
Speaker 1:
[44:26] Or one of our friends like Janelle will come to her and be like, oh my gosh, I have so many haters. And you're like, nothing. I got triple the amount.
Speaker 2:
[44:36] Remember yesterday when I got that picture from that guy?
Speaker 1:
[44:39] Yeah, she got a guy who was shirtless, who sent her a shirtless pic. Gross, dude. Gross, dude.
Speaker 2:
[44:46] And I was like, still got it. I was like, I still got it. Guys are sending me selfless pictures.
Speaker 1:
[44:52] It was a nice little confidence boost for her.
Speaker 2:
[44:55] I was like, babe, look, this guy sent me a shirtless selfie. And I was like, you girl still got it.
Speaker 1:
[45:01] Oh, man.
Speaker 2:
[45:03] No, it's so crazy. Like people, I think, assume that I have like really, really crazy people, like in my DMs or people are so normal to me these days.
Speaker 1:
[45:16] I agree. I say the same thing.
Speaker 2:
[45:18] I'm like, I don't, it's, I don't have people like, are you scared for your safety? I'm like, never.
Speaker 1:
[45:24] I feel like our friends that are like have less followers and less haters on the internet have crazier, hater stories than we do.
Speaker 2:
[45:31] I don't have anything like, yeah, that crazy. See, I'm irrelevant. You talk about taking Tylenol when I'm pregnant again.
Speaker 1:
[45:40] Who are your bucket list podcast guests?
Speaker 2:
[45:43] That's a good question. Obviously, Taylor Swift forever. Taylor Swift's makeup artist, Taylor Swift's stylist.
Speaker 1:
[45:51] Taylor Swift's assistant.
Speaker 2:
[45:52] Assistant. Okay, so moving on. My dream bucket. Oh gosh, I know I have somebody. Who would be yours? Well, I think.
Speaker 1:
[46:07] An exorcist.
Speaker 2:
[46:11] We could probably make that happen.
Speaker 1:
[46:12] Yeah, we can make that happen.
Speaker 2:
[46:13] Okay. That's a good one. So it's kind of hard to trump.
Speaker 1:
[46:22] Yeah, no, that would be awesome. Or someone. No, that's it. That's it. That's my dream.
Speaker 2:
[46:34] Well, just who else were you going to say?
Speaker 1:
[46:35] Well, there's always all these scientists that are missing right now. They were all connected to propulsion and a lot of crazy stuff.
Speaker 2:
[46:47] What's propulsion again?
Speaker 1:
[46:49] It's like the propulsion system that drives an aircraft. So propulsion specialists are the ones that are trying to figure out how UFOs float.
Speaker 2:
[46:59] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[47:00] Apparently. So a lot of those have disappeared, and they were connected to a lot of nuclear energy. Ten of them.
Speaker 2:
[47:10] They're bye-bye?
Speaker 1:
[47:11] Well, half of them disappeared, and then there were a couple that were just assassinated. So I'd want to know someone who knows a little bit about that.
Speaker 2:
[47:23] I know mine. Mine would be Theovon.
Speaker 1:
[47:26] But see, here's the thing, is that do you actually want to meet these people?
Speaker 2:
[47:30] Yeah. See, Theovon, I would actually want to meet. Taylor Swift, I don't know if I really want to meet her. I would be okay without meeting her. But Theovon, I don't expect much. I just expect a real conversation. If he was uncomfortable, if he was awkward, if he was a little, maybe even got a little snippy, or if he was really funny, or whatever he was, I would be like, yeah, I would expect that. I don't expect this perfect person. And that's why, yeah. I could see myself being friends with Theovon one day. Not like buddies where we're going like hanging out, because obviously I'm married, that would be weird. But like I could see him being a part of our ecosystem one day.
Speaker 1:
[48:11] Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:
[48:12] I'd like to interview him. I'd like to interview Bradley Cooper.
Speaker 1:
[48:18] You met him.
Speaker 2:
[48:19] Yeah, there's something about him. Something about him.
Speaker 1:
[48:23] Like a mystery or?
Speaker 2:
[48:24] Yeah, he just, first of all, his eyes are so blue that it's wrong.
Speaker 1:
[48:31] Are they bluer than Summit's eyes?
Speaker 2:
[48:33] Yeah. It's like not normal, the color of his eyes. He's, you can't trust him.
Speaker 1:
[48:42] You said that about Summit, you were like, I'm worried his eyes are too blue that people aren't going to trust him.
Speaker 2:
[48:46] There's something about people with really, really blue eyes.
Speaker 1:
[48:50] Blonde hair, blue eyes.
Speaker 2:
[48:51] No, you don't have to have blonde hair.
Speaker 1:
[48:53] Well, I'm just saying that's.
Speaker 2:
[48:54] When your eyes are crystal blue.
Speaker 1:
[48:58] It's like they're like a night walker or something.
Speaker 2:
[49:00] Yeah, and they have special privileges.
Speaker 1:
[49:04] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[49:05] That other people don't have.
Speaker 1:
[49:06] They look smacks. Doors just open for them.
Speaker 2:
[49:09] Yeah. It's just like when you. It's like girls that have been pretty their whole lives.
Speaker 1:
[49:14] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[49:16] They didn't get the full training of life.
Speaker 1:
[49:19] Because they haven't had to.
Speaker 2:
[49:20] They haven't had to. They got to skip a few stages, a few levels, so they didn't get that development. Same thing with people with really crystal blue eyes.
Speaker 1:
[49:31] It's true.
Speaker 2:
[49:31] Got to watch out for them.
Speaker 1:
[49:32] It's very, very true.
Speaker 2:
[49:34] Yeah. I'd like to see him in his eyes again. And then. And then, I don't know. It's probably my two.
Speaker 1:
[49:48] Well, I better get going.
Speaker 2:
[49:49] Where are you going?
Speaker 1:
[49:50] The airport.
Speaker 2:
[49:51] But actually, where are you going, actually?
Speaker 1:
[49:53] I'm going to Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 2:
[49:56] You're going to go ride some horses?
Speaker 1:
[49:58] I'm going to go watch some horses race for a bachelor party.
Speaker 2:
[50:02] I'm going to call Peter.
Speaker 1:
[50:04] Honestly, yeah. They're there. They're at all the races.
Speaker 2:
[50:09] Are they there?
Speaker 1:
[50:10] I've seen them at like two or three. They're like protesting outside.
Speaker 2:
[50:14] Really? Wow. Which is fair.
Speaker 1:
[50:18] I mean, everyone's like, listen, I don't own any of these horses, so.
Speaker 2:
[50:21] Well, I am going to own a horse one day, but I'm going to be really nice to it. So you all have to come over.
Speaker 1:
[50:26] Well, listen, these horses, just to be super clear, are very well taken care of.
Speaker 2:
[50:32] Yeah, they are.
Speaker 1:
[50:32] They live in nicer stables than our houses.
Speaker 2:
[50:36] I agree.
Speaker 1:
[50:36] And they are worth like hundreds of thousands of dollars to these owners. So.
Speaker 2:
[50:41] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[50:42] Yeah. I mean, they just, and they love to run. They love to run. The only time that they have to get put down is when they injure themselves.
Speaker 2:
[50:51] But that's just like any animal. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[50:53] It's not like if they lose a race, they're like, you know, boom. It's more like if they injure themselves, it's like there's no way to heal that.
Speaker 2:
[51:00] Well, or I'm sure they don't have to. Like they could give it to someone and rehabilitate the horse.
Speaker 1:
[51:06] I think if they, if they can, I think the owners typically do that because you can still sell the horse.
Speaker 2:
[51:13] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[51:13] You know.
Speaker 2:
[51:15] But it's like...
Speaker 1:
[51:15] But if the, when you're running, I think, I don't know this for sure, but when a horse is running at that speed and they break a leg or something, I think it's so...
Speaker 2:
[51:26] Okay. Now I'm like, no, I'm sad.
Speaker 1:
[51:28] Yeah. It's really dangerous for the jockeys too. Have you ever seen a jockey in real life?
Speaker 3:
[51:32] No.
Speaker 2:
[51:32] Are they little?
Speaker 1:
[51:33] Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:
[51:33] They're so little.
Speaker 1:
[51:35] But they're like, they're like jacked. Really?
Speaker 2:
[51:37] Why do they have to be so strong?
Speaker 1:
[51:41] I mean, they're dealing with a very powerful animal. They're just very fit. Like low body fat because they care about their weight. Cause the lighter that they are, you know, and they're all they're all seem Spanish, which I don't, you know, maybe that's just a thing.
Speaker 2:
[51:58] Why don't they have female jockeys?
Speaker 1:
[52:00] I don't know. It's very dangerous. Very, very dangerous.
Speaker 2:
[52:04] So you're saying like females couldn't do it?
Speaker 1:
[52:06] No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like, I think it's, it's kind of like a, why are there not more female dirt bikers? Or maybe there are, or why are there not more female skateboarders? You know, X Games people.
Speaker 2:
[52:20] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[52:22] But yeah, it's like, it's, it's very dangerous. Cause you know, when you're, when you're coming around these turns, like they're like, they're like but butting up against each other, these horses.
Speaker 2:
[52:32] So it's like you fall, you're kind of dead.
Speaker 1:
[52:34] Yeah. And you know how like you want a horse because they're really smart and you wanted to like see inside your soul. When you're, when you're betting on these races, you know, like if a horse lost the race before, it goes into like the spread on the bet because it's like psychologically, they could be down or like in their own heads that they lost the last race. Like they know when they lose or when these races, there's like a confidence element to the horses too, you know?
Speaker 2:
[53:07] Wow.
Speaker 1:
[53:07] It's, it's, it's a very interesting thing.
Speaker 2:
[53:09] I would like to know, and maybe I'll ask Chachapiti after this, is like the ranking of like the most smart animal. It's like the top 10 smartest animals.
Speaker 1:
[53:16] Let's do that right now.
Speaker 2:
[53:17] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[53:17] That's a really interesting question. Like, who should we?
Speaker 2:
[53:21] Well, I know octopus, octopi might be the, but actually it's, they're actually called octopuses. I remember I googled it.
Speaker 1:
[53:28] Okay, so-
Speaker 2:
[53:29] Octopuses might be the smartest.
Speaker 1:
[53:31] Animals ranked. Dolphins are up there.
Speaker 2:
[53:36] Really?
Speaker 1:
[53:37] Okay, here's the rankings.
Speaker 2:
[53:37] That is so cool to me. Like that dolphins are smart.
Speaker 3:
[53:41] That is so cool.
Speaker 2:
[53:43] It makes me want one.
Speaker 1:
[53:44] Here's the rankings. And I don't know if this is an order.
Speaker 2:
[53:46] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[53:47] Chimpanzees. What?
Speaker 2:
[53:49] Oh man. I would love to have a chimp too. I love them.
Speaker 1:
[53:53] They turn on you.
Speaker 2:
[53:54] They're kind of mean, I bet, but-
Speaker 1:
[53:56] They're strong. Cats.
Speaker 2:
[53:57] They have stumps.
Speaker 1:
[53:58] Cats, smart.
Speaker 2:
[53:59] Really? That makes me want to have a cat too.
Speaker 1:
[54:02] Pigs. What? Yeah, pigs.
Speaker 2:
[54:04] We hate them.
Speaker 1:
[54:05] No, I know. And then we really kill them in humane ways. So if they're smart, it's really sad.
Speaker 2:
[54:12] Oh, that is awful.
Speaker 1:
[54:13] Oh, I read on Twitter that they found out that lobsters feel pain.
Speaker 2:
[54:19] Oh, no.
Speaker 1:
[54:20] And we've been boiling them alive.
Speaker 2:
[54:22] Oh, no. I can't.
Speaker 1:
[54:24] It's horrible.
Speaker 2:
[54:25] Peta, save the lobsters, please.
Speaker 1:
[54:26] Save the lobsters. That was really, pigeons are smart. What? Crows.
Speaker 2:
[54:33] That makes me feel like they poop on us on purpose.
Speaker 1:
[54:37] You know? Elephants, we've known.
Speaker 2:
[54:42] Wait, why are octopuses not on there?
Speaker 1:
[54:46] Oh, they are.
Speaker 2:
[54:46] Sorry.
Speaker 1:
[54:46] We just already knew that.
Speaker 2:
[54:47] They should be the number one.
Speaker 1:
[54:55] Yeah, dogs, observant dogs.
Speaker 2:
[54:58] What kind of dogs? Because some dogs are dumb.
Speaker 1:
[55:00] The picture here is a golden retriever.
Speaker 2:
[55:03] Really? No, that makes me so sad.
Speaker 1:
[55:08] Yeah, so, I mean, there's some smart animals out there.
Speaker 2:
[55:12] Pigs?
Speaker 1:
[55:13] Thank goodness we're at the top of the food chain.
Speaker 2:
[55:15] Parrots, rats, squirrels?
Speaker 1:
[55:19] Squirrels? I don't buy it. I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 2:
[55:23] What's the smartest animal in the world? This is like my chat-chimpanzee history. Chimpanzees.
Speaker 1:
[55:34] Yeah, chimps.
Speaker 2:
[55:37] What's the second smartest animal in the world? I'm sorry. I have to know. Because I can't... Dolphins.
Speaker 1:
[55:52] Wasn't there a story recently that a dolphin kidnapped a human?
Speaker 2:
[55:56] Well, they passed the mirror test. They recognized themselves in the mirror.
Speaker 1:
[56:02] Is this a thing, though?
Speaker 2:
[56:03] What other animal recognizes themselves in the mirror?
Speaker 1:
[56:05] I think a dolphin kidnapped a human. That would be really dangerous. And we have to pay to swim with them. Dolphin kidnapped human.
Speaker 2:
[56:18] Well, then...
Speaker 1:
[56:20] Oh, sorry. It's completely fake. The viral story claiming a Florida man was kidnapped by dolphins to build an underwater city is completely fake. I fell for it. I skinned past you because I didn't really care, but I did fall for it. I want to be honest. You know, babe, I think I got to really go fast because it's 1.19. And if I left right now, I would be at the airport at 2.01, which is really dangerous for me because my flight's at 2.50.
Speaker 2:
[57:02] And you're checking it back, so you better get to it.
Speaker 1:
[57:04] I better get to it. And I know this is part of your master plan because you're going to miss me too much.
Speaker 2:
[57:08] Babe, I'm going to see you in like not tomorrow but the next day.
Speaker 1:
[57:12] Why does it feel like forever?
Speaker 2:
[57:14] I know.
Speaker 1:
[57:14] To me.
Speaker 2:
[57:16] We've been getting along so great lately. Haven't we? I know.
Speaker 1:
[57:19] Have you noticed that?
Speaker 2:
[57:20] Because we just love each other so much.
Speaker 1:
[57:23] There's multiple times in the past like five days where I've been like, I just love you and we go to bed saying, I love you. I love you so much.
Speaker 2:
[57:31] I know.
Speaker 1:
[57:31] We both mean it. It's not like performative.
Speaker 2:
[57:35] Babe, I've never ever said I love you and I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1:
[57:39] Yeah, me neither. Maybe like twice. But just, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[57:44] Really? I've never.
Speaker 1:
[57:45] I wanted to feel it but I was mad at you.
Speaker 2:
[57:47] I even love you when I'm mad at you.
Speaker 1:
[57:49] I love you too when I'm mad at you. I wanted to feel it in that moment. I wanted that little flutter back in my heart and it was feeling hard.
Speaker 2:
[57:56] Isn't it funny how you really can keep the flutter alive?
Speaker 1:
[58:01] Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:
[58:02] After eight years of marriage?
Speaker 1:
[58:03] But I feel it in very random moments. Do you feel it in random moments?
Speaker 2:
[58:08] Yeah, but I would say I feel it daily.
Speaker 1:
[58:10] No, I feel it daily just in the most random moments. It's like, oh, we're about to watch this show and I'm like, glad I get to do that with her. You know?
Speaker 2:
[58:19] Oh, so sweet.
Speaker 1:
[58:20] And I would say that it's funny because the more that life goes on, the simpler the moments can be to create the flutter.
Speaker 2:
[58:30] I know.
Speaker 1:
[58:31] Think about when we first got married. We were going to Paris and Cabo and I was like, this is so fun.
Speaker 2:
[58:38] Yeah, but it's like, I didn't love you as much as I do now.
Speaker 1:
[58:41] No, I know. And now it's like, I mean, I would love you if we went to Cabo or I would love you if we just went to yaya football.
Speaker 3:
[58:47] Same. You know?
Speaker 2:
[58:49] Same.
Speaker 1:
[58:50] It's like, what a blessing.
Speaker 2:
[58:52] Praise Jesus.
Speaker 1:
[58:54] Well, you remember that.
Speaker 2:
[58:55] Did you see that? Realize that you have the loyally with the plant?
Speaker 1:
[58:58] No, but I'll watch it on the plane. I really got to go. Okay.
Speaker 2:
[59:01] Bye. Love you too. Bye.
Speaker 3:
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