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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Hey, Fore Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Big show today, everybody. We got some chatter about the Brian Bros. People don't know that video is now out. We talk a lot about the background of that. We have a large rules discussion based on what happened to the Barstool Classic. We get into a lot of good stuff today. It's all brought to you by Chevy, the Equinox, your do-it-all SUV. I kind of love today's show, gentlemen. I like the directions that we went into.

Speaker 2:
[00:34] Yeah, it was a good, it was a great show. We just got back from the road, great Barstool Classic. We took our Chevy from West Palm Beach down to the park and then down to Fort Lauderdale. So every time we're on the road, we're in our Chevy's. So thank you to Chevy for being a part of the show for so many years and we're about to have a great, great year on the Barstool Classic. This was just stop one out of 10, event one and two out of 20. So really, really great stuff. Chevy's along the ride with us for the whole entire way. So they'll be with us from every single event, which is great. And they have awesome signage this year. This like ridiculously shiny, bright Chevrolet logo light. That's just right behind one of the holes. It's the coolest thing ever. People taking photos in front of it. It's awesome. It's like you take your Chevy emblem on your car and you maximize that thing by, I don't know, 3,000. And that's the size of this thing.

Speaker 1:
[01:25] It's awesome. Oh yeah, they did a great job. The Equinox Crush is what we've been driving around that thing and all our travel throughout the year with Active Trim. Equinox is at home on dirt and gravel. Polished for the course, prepared for the getaway. The bold, athletic and confident style of the Equinox looks just as good at the course as it does off the map. Again, fantastic show today. Thank you everybody for listening. Let's get into it. The Chevy Equinox, once again, is your do it all, go anywhere SUV.

Speaker 3:
[01:55] I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name is Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knives it across the green.

Speaker 4:
[02:06] Broke a hundred.

Speaker 2:
[02:07] Now you got to break 90.

Speaker 1:
[02:09] We appreciate what you guys do for golf.

Speaker 4:
[02:10] It's been really cool. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[02:12] You're making it cool.

Speaker 1:
[02:12] We appreciate it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 29.99.

Speaker 2:
[02:16] He grabs a hundred.

Speaker 1:
[02:17] He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take a hundred and go fuck yourself.

Speaker 5:
[02:22] What?

Speaker 2:
[02:23] What are you guys fishing with?

Speaker 5:
[02:26] This ain't a hobby.

Speaker 1:
[02:28] Fore Play presented by Barstool Sports. We got the entire crew here, including an incredible POV of Kevin Kisner, just in his element. If I could say he was shirtless a minute ago, sipping coffee.

Speaker 5:
[02:40] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[02:40] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[02:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:41] Yeah. It's a great POV. We got, we got everybody. We got a great week here in the, in the Fore Play world. We have the Barstool Classic Monday and Tuesday down at the park, which we kind of started off the week talking about. Great rules controversy that we have to go through. I know Kiz wanted to weigh in on that. We got to get the full story. Absolutely bananas. Some of the things that people try to get away with at this amateur fun tournament. And net golf, yip strickler. We got to get into that. We've got a couple of administrative things I want to kick it off with, boys. PGA Championship merchandise. We're rocking the hats right now. Arana Mink, this one's up next. This is on deck for Major Championship Golf. It's the PGA Championship just outside of Philly. And we have a great relationship with the PGA of America. Trent's got the shirt. Me and Frankie got the hat. Kiz is camouflaged out because he's haunting, so you can't see anything on him. But just a great name, Arana Mink. It's got that kind of epic golf course, golf club name. And then the PGA Championship, officially licensed PGA Championship merch. The kind of subtle hints of Barstool golf on the inside and on the back. There's just a small, small little tag. And then mostly it's Arana Mink PGA Championship stuff. So store it at barstoolsports.com. Make sure you go check that out. And then the last thing on my administrative list is our match against the Bryan Bros is coming out this week. I believe it's out. It should be out now. If people are listening to the show, it should be on our YouTube, I believe, yesterday, Wednesday, which while we're recording it's today. That's coming out. A lot of history with the Bryan Bros on this entire podcast. Kiz has been playing against the Bryan Brothers for a very long time in the golf circuit. We've been doing videos sort of like adjacent to the Bryan Bros for a long time. They were part of the Internet Invitational last year. They're two of the better golfers in the entire space. They've got the Major Cut Series with Grant, and they're doing things with Bob Lott. They're just around all over the place. Kiz had kind of called them out, I guess, in a typical kind of funny way when we were playing our match down in Sawgrass area a month or so ago. That combined with some of the things that they had said after the Internet Invitational about how we were kind of out for blood and the Kwan stuff rubbed them the wrong way. So a little bit of history going into the Bryan Bros match, gentlemen.

Speaker 2:
[05:11] Yeah, it was great to finally get that one on the channel. There's no denying that they're a huge YouTube golf brand. They've got that major cut series with Grant, and it's just, it's an unbelievable thing that they've been able to carve out aside from their pursuit of professional golf. Obviously, Kiz was successful in his pursuit of professional golf, so to be able to see them both succeeding at what they went out and tried to accomplish was pretty cool to see them at this stage of their lives right now. I'm sure it was a different scene for the Bryan Bros growing up with Kiz just kind of pushing them around for years and years and years on the golf course, but the Bryan Bros are for sure doing well for themselves now. And yeah, it was a great match. I mean, it really was, it was something that I was looking forward to for a long time, so I'm glad that it's finally out there, and I hope everyone enjoys the video, because I think there's many more to come after that first one.

Speaker 5:
[06:05] Yeah, and you guys need to practice more if we're going to play professional golfers again.

Speaker 2:
[06:11] That's for sure.

Speaker 1:
[06:12] It was a funny dynamic, because we were trying to go back and forth. We played at Selena at their home course. They set the whole thing up. They allowed the video to go on our channel, so they were great, great about all that stuff. And the first time we really spent an extended amount of a period of time with them. So that part of it was great. We were trying to come up with a format. We decided to do just us four as a scramble against those two as a scramble. And it was an incredibly tight match, but it's also funny where Kiz, you know, look, Kiz has some history with these guys. Kiz wants to win. There's been competitive fire for your whole lives against these guys. And the teammates that he's stuck with are fucking us out there. It's like Wesley's got George. George has Wesley and Kiz has like me and, you know, Frankie are in the shit and he needs Trent to hit the green on this one. It's like, God damn it.

Speaker 4:
[07:04] Every hole, every hole you see three of the greatest shots you've ever seen and three of the worst shots you've ever seen. That was pretty much the whole video.

Speaker 5:
[07:12] I wouldn't have it any other way though, do ride or die with my guys. And it was our first match ever together. I've never played with y'all on a team. So I learned some dynamics that will help us in future matches together as a team of, thinking you guys can handle a three foot putt, not really paying attention to that. And really how much I need to grind to get ready to be your fearless leader on the golf course.

Speaker 1:
[07:38] It's true, man, because you made the point too, because you're like, I know that this isn't a PGA Tour event, but you were like, Wesley and George are playing golf. All the time, maybe as much as they've ever played golf.

Speaker 5:
[07:52] Yeah, all they do every day is play golf. I literally texted him yesterday about something else, and he's like, I don't know, dude, I just play golf every day. And I was like, oh, no wonder. I had not played in 10 days when we played that match. So it was not fun hanging out with those guys. There's going to be a lot of trash talk in that video, so people don't take it the wrong way. It's just a friendly banter amongst the Bryan Bros and I with a long history. So don't think we hate each other and don't think we go too far. Like some people have thought in previous content. So it was a fun match. I think I'd like to schedule another one and we'll do it on their channel.

Speaker 2:
[08:30] Dude, what's infuriating is right after you guys all left, Brennan and I went out and I filmed the nine hole video for my Instagram. And it's coming out this week. I couldn't have hit the ball better. It's just such a look into the mental side of my game. When I'm out there, I'm nervous. I've been anticipating that match for a long time. Kiz's partner for the first time, having to hit certain shots, couldn't hit a driver on the planet during the video. Go out there with Brennan, it's just like me and my buddy, just like it's not thinking about anything, just hitting little draws. I looked at him after four holes, I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? We would have crushed these guys if I hit it 12 percent as good as this. So yeah, no, it's something I got to work on for sure. I mean, Kiz needs a better partner than what I gave him.

Speaker 4:
[09:15] It still ended up being a great match though.

Speaker 2:
[09:17] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[09:18] No, incredible match. I mean, incredible match. I think the format was perfect. It was gonna be close the entire time. I was a little not expecting how much you guys went at each other and I was laughing about it, but also, I very much picked up as it went on that like, yeah, these guys have been talking shit to each other their entire lives, so it was like, it was a very fun dynamic. I think people are gonna love it. I think it's gonna get people going and it made it where you really wanna win. Like, storylines are important. It's what I think makes certain series that are out there in our whole space like, very watchable and shareable to people. It's just like, damn, I could sense that people wanted to win. And it made it, you know, the history, the heat, all of it, it made it very clear, like, I wanted so badly to hit good shots for kids, for you two too, but like, we kind of slapped Dicky, no, we're gonna lose some, we're gonna win some. I was very much like, my guy here is bringing it. He knows he's gonna bring it. He's been bringing his whole life on the golf course. I gotta try to find a way to help this team right now. That's kind of how it felt the whole time. So it's a great match. And I appreciate those guys giving us the time, setting the whole thing up, letting it go on our channel and all that. So we owe them and we'll put one on their channel, but make sure you scope that out is the latest on the YouTube front.

Speaker 5:
[10:43] Now, I gotta follow up on that Riggs before you go.

Speaker 1:
[10:46] Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5:
[10:48] Obviously the people will see, but nobody talks trash to George because he's a sweetheart. And they'll see that on the video. And two, every time I play y'all in a scramble, you make everything and you never make a putt all day when you're on my team.

Speaker 1:
[11:05] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[11:06] That's the mental side, dude. That's like we know we've got a better player. There's something about that.

Speaker 5:
[11:12] I think I'm going to put first from here on out in our scramble. So then y'all have to feel the wrath of like, instead of you putting like, oh, well, Kiz is behind me, he'll make it if I miss.

Speaker 2:
[11:23] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[11:24] There is a stunning moment early on. I forget what hole it is, but there's a stunning putting moment early on in this match that people are not going to believe. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[11:34] Then we change the lineup on the next hole.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] Yeah. That mindset can't be more true. That is like precisely how I felt over the putt, which is it's so different when it's just the three of us. It feels like Trent needs to give it 150 percent of his effort on the first one, and Frankie has to, and then I have to, because we're not good enough to rely on anyone else. We need a miracle, and you have to focus to provide that miracle. When we're playing with you, I'll slap it towards the hole, Kiz will figure it out. Then he's like, well, I've seen three putts, I have no fucking idea what the putt does.

Speaker 5:
[12:12] So true. Trent lines up one way, starts in another way, Frankie hits it too hard, and then you get it pretty close, and I'm like, I don't know which one to believe.

Speaker 4:
[12:23] It's also funny because these guys who we've played and shot a lot of videos with sort of know, and the internet certainly knows that I slice my putts hard. So they're factoring that into the equation on what the line is. Kiz is watching me, he's like, why is this guy lining up this way? And it's like, you gotta learn that I'm one of the worst putters on the planet. A guy who slices not only used to slice my drives, but I also slice my putt. So the whole thing, the dynamic, like you said, we're still getting used to that. So we're gonna figure it out.

Speaker 5:
[12:49] Sky's the limit, boys, sky's the limit. We can only go up.

Speaker 1:
[12:52] Yeah, all right, all right. Make sure you scope it out. Again, newest thing on YouTube, and we've hyped it up plenty. It was a great match, and I think people are gonna enjoy the hell out of it. Moving on to the Barstool Classic. This is year eight of the Barstool Classic. We've done a couple hundred events at this point between the Classic, Scrambles, we're doing hole-in-one contest events now. It always ceases to amaze me at events. You know, what people try to get away with. And obviously, in this case, we're gonna talk a little bit about a just blatant cheating violation of the rules, and probably the most old, one of the oldest rules in the history of golf, which is just writing down what your score was. But, you know, we've had people steal T-markers. We had a story from when we hosted an office party of somebody stealing a photograph from a female employee's desk and then trying to use that as leverage to message them and get a date. Like, we've had people try to get away with some crazy, crazy shit. And unless, like, when we had the T-markers being stolen, the way that would happen a lot would be either the night before, because we have Ryan Hopper and his team, they come to set up the Barstool Classic, all the kind of signage infrastructure, everyone would call it, the night before, a good amount of time. And then if those holes, golf course, whatever, are near and in between homes, neighborhoods, people will run out there at night and steal stuff before the tournament starts. Or you would get people, if they play their last hole as hole 13, they'd grab a T-marker, throw it in their cart, go unpack their bag, throw it in their car and drive away. Luckily, we had Apple AirTags in those T-markers, and so we would track motherfuckers down and we would find where they were, and we hit them up, we have their information, we would text them, and Lisa was a big part of this, our whole event seemed to be a part of it. We know you have the T-marker and they'd be like, no, I don't. What are you talking about? We'd be like, we have a screenshot of the AirTag and it is in your home, in your residence, in the fucking address that you gave us. They would be like, okay, you caught me. We have the T-marker. We also had in Toronto, I believe, we had video footage from the parking lot of people stealing our custom coolers that we had that at the time were branded with our title sponsors. They were really cool. And we just had footage of guys backing their car up, opening the back hatchet, putting a couple of our coolers in their car and driving away. We've had two different people over the course of the Barstool Classic that we had to rule were eliminated from the year's competition after qualifying. And then they were banned from the Barstool Classic going forward. One guy threatened me with libel and all kinds of stuff. And he and I had an in-person confrontation outside of Leasee's Italian here in Pioneers of that same year. And it was two people during the COVID year that had the same issue where they had two different handicap indexes in two different states. And of course, in both incidents, they used the higher handicap index, is the one that they submitted for the Barstool Classic. We called their golf club, we called their head bro, we called the handicap committee chairman at the clubs and was like, what's the guy's deal? Yes, he has two handicaps, kicked them both out. But in other incidents where we have many times where people have been accused of doing things illegally, for example, when we were at Springfield Country Club, I believe there was a qualifier there like five years ago. And there was six, seven, eight people that swore, that a group that qualified, they didn't actually finish out their putt on the last hole, it was in front of the clubhouse. But those people swore that they did. The people that they played with, I believe, swore that they either didn't see it or that they did. And so you can only go off those people's word. That then brings us to this year's first day of the Barstool Classic Qualifier, where again, about 50 teams play in this thing. The top five out of 50 advance to the championship. If you win the championship, you won 20 grand. But even if you don't win the championship, you get two rounds at Greyhawk in peak season. You get food, beverage for two days. You basically get a fully paid vacation combined with competitive golf. So qualifying is awesome. But that now, I'm going to set the stage for, I had to leave. I was coming and hosting this Adidas event here in Pinehurst. So you guys were left with what occurred on Monday afternoon. I want to hear how this whole bad boy unfolded with the rules dispute.

Speaker 2:
[17:48] Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, it's the first day of the Barstool Classic. We've got Yip Strickler out there, who has been an unbelievable addition to the Barstool Classic. He is keeping people on their toes. He's out there with binoculars, making sure that everyone's doing the right thing and the whole deal. He's calling out people who he thinks are going to qualify. They end up qualifying. I mean, the people that one day won, everyone let out a little bit of a boo because they knew Yip Strickler had called that they were going to win. He said that they had posted a bunch of 84s. He said that the one guy shot a 72, and with his 7.5 handicap, the odds of that on the gin app were one out of every 1,687 rounds or something like that. So he's on the microphone, he's like, congratulations, you basically should go play the lottery today. The fact that you did this. He's definitely keeping people on their toes and it's good going forward. I also kept them in line. I'm like, yeah, people can have the day of their lives out here, but they're not going to turn that into a negative. And he totally understands that. But just having that presence around, you could tell has changed the outlook of how people go about the Barstool Classic. So that was a fun little wrinkle into the first two events there.

Speaker 1:
[19:05] He's so into it. He's so actually into it.

Speaker 2:
[19:07] He's psychotically into it.

Speaker 1:
[19:09] And that is a big takeaway for me is that it is a... He does know the bit, that's why he goes to TikTok with it, and that's why he goes online and the memba stuff and all that. I was blown away at how real the whole thing is. He is not fucking kidding. He's pissed the whole time. People roll up and you think he's kind of like sarcastically giving him shit when he's like, I rig this guy on the left. I had my eye on him last Tuesday. I already knew. And then he gets out of the cart and Yip's never seen this guy in his life. He memorized what he looks like. He memorized his scores over the last three months. And he knows as soon as he takes a swing and hits the ball, Yip's like, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.

Speaker 2:
[19:45] He was writing notes on people's score cards in their cart before they got there. They would open up the score card and he would write, I know that you just uploaded seven scores last week for the last month. And it's just like little notes, little warnings.

Speaker 4:
[20:00] It was one guy's birthday. He wrote a happy birthday note to the guy on one of the score cards. But then I talked to one of the guys, I think it might have been the 84 guy, guy who posted a bunch of 84s. He said that he talked to Yip and they had a constructive conversation and they found some middle ground. So it's not just, I mean, listen, Yip is an interesting character and he's kind of all over the place. But he does talk to these guys in a normal way and if they find a middle ground, he's like, okay, now that I have a little bit more information, I'm no longer going to like bury you on the internet. So if you have a good reasoning, he'll listen to it.

Speaker 2:
[20:31] Because this guy said to us, Yip said to us when we were just sitting around having a drink, that he'll sit on the toilet in the morning and just type in a random code into Golf Genius and just look through whatever pops up. It has nothing to do with the Barstool Classic. That's how he spends his time away from his kids and his wife. Like if he's sitting there, we're probably scrolling through Instagram reels or TikToks or whatever. He is just, oh, how'd this person play in 2012 at this random qualifier that just popped up on my phone and he wants to make sure that they uploaded all their scores correctly.

Speaker 5:
[21:04] Look, he's found a niche in the business, man. Everybody talks shit about handicaps, right? I mean, even in my club, Palmetto, everyone is pissed about so-and-so's handicap or he's a sandbagger. And now we have a dude that can prove to everyone that you are sandbagger. We had a big member guest, like before Yip became Yip, like right when he started the member thing, that won our member guest at Palmetto maybe two years ago. And they paid Yip to do it a full investigation. Another guy in the tournament. And the guy, I mean, basically he proved to the guy that he was a sandbagger and won the tournament, that guy comes up to me and is like, do you know anything about this guy on Instagram? Like I'm thinking I'm gonna get my lawyer to send him a letter. I was like, dude, we're going a little too far. Is a fucking member guest. Nobody gives a shit. He's like, yeah, but it's kind of like defamatory. Like my son and I played great. And I'm like, well, you weren't nine handicaps and you won the tournament. You cheated, but you still got the trophy. Nobody cares, move on. And that was hilarious. And then now that you've hired him to be the official handicap watcher. What is his title? Is that what it is?

Speaker 2:
[22:12] Chief Handicap Counselor.

Speaker 1:
[22:14] He's the chief counselor to the Handicap Committee for the Barstool Classic.

Speaker 5:
[22:19] Yeah, I can't wait to show up to my first Barstool Classic with Yip while he's got all of his evidence. And then I'm going to watch the guy hit. Like there's no chance that guy's a nine handicap.

Speaker 2:
[22:29] So yeah, so obviously we've got all this going on and it's the first day and everyone's super excited. And with our new format with the Barstool Classic, there's a party afterwards. Everyone's getting food and drinks and we have an awesome new putting contest during the party where it's indoors, by the bar, people are going crazy, horns hooting and hollering. You have day one and day two people there. So it's a great scene. And while that's all happening, our team is kind of going through all the scorecards. Now, seven under during day one, seven under par was qualifying. So we have five teams that qualify for Greyhawk. It was 11 under, 10 under, nine under. So seven under was the line and everything was fine. We had kind of announced the teams. We gave out all the hardware, all the trophies, all the money, all the skins, and we were on our way. We were just going to hang out and party for the rest of the night. And this group had come up to me and was like, hey, it was actually Hot Sean. So Hot Sean used to work at Barstool Sports. Sean McLaughlin, he was also on like the Bachelor, all this stuff. You can go follow him on Instagram. He's a hot dude that used to work at Barstool Sports. Great kid.

Speaker 1:
[23:40] He's a really good kid, man. Yeah, I felt terrible for him just because I watched them, him and his playing partner. Oh man, I rolled up on the ninth green, I think it was, and him and his playing partner were like finishing the hole. And Hot Sean was like kind of out of the hole. He just chipped it around a little bit. And his playing partner had like a birdie putt, barely looked out and had like a three inch putt. And he just walked by and scooped it. And everyone in the group kind of froze because you have to post a score. And they were kind of looking at each other. And I was looking around, I didn't really know what to do. And then they kind of like, he just kind of took it down, putted it out and ended up taking like a double. So credit to them for, you know, I mean they played by the rules in a spot where they really just got fucked in that he had a lapse of judgment. So I hated that I witnessed that because Hot Sean's a really nice guy. But credit to them for playing by the rules.

Speaker 2:
[24:31] Yeah, so they were, so a guy came up in defense of Hot Sean's team. He was one of his friends and he came up to me. He's like, dude, I don't want to start anything because obviously everything's over. But he goes, we can't stop talking over there about the fact that Hot Sean's competitors, the guys that they were keeping the score for and they were playing with, they thought, then they were under the assumption the entire time that they were six under par. But they saw that they were seven under when we gave out all the hardware and that we were sending people to Greyhawk. So they went to the Golf Genius app and they were going through the scorecard online, which is after you submit your scorecard to Taylor Ray and Justin Mancini on our team, they go through, because you have to get four signatures on the scorecard, they go through what your scorecard says after you get the signatures, and they readjust whatever happens on the Golf Genius app. That's like a final submission because people will go on the Golf Genius app as they're playing and they'll write in an 8 by accident because their thumb may be slipped or whatever it might be. You have to confirm it after people have signed and gone through the scorecard, right? So they went through and they're going through hole by hole and they're trying to think like, well, where's that extra stroke that we must have missed? They started on hole 14, 15, whatever they started on. You got to go back through and see where they made a mistake. And they realized that on the first hole that they had figured out that they had thought that the guys that they were playing against had made a five, but on the Golf Genius app, it had a four as a birdie. So that started. Now they're going through what they do. Like what was the shots? They're trying to think back. Oh, I was putting for a par. I wasn't watching them. Did they celebrate a birdie? And they're all kind of going back and forth. I'm saying to them, you guys have four signatures on the card. We haven't seen the card yet. I'm like, we have four signatures on the card. There's not much I'm going to be able to do, but I'll go take a look. And they're like, I'm pretty sure. They're like, the one guy definitely made a six because he was out of the hole. And they go, the one guy that the four is written on Golf Genius, he hit it way left and then pounded one up in front of the green. And they're like, I don't think that they're like, he hit it to 20 feet. And we don't remember if he made the putt. There's no way he drained a 20 foot of a birdie. They weren't celebrating. There's nothing there. They're going crazy. So then now I'm like, all right, let's go look at the card. We go and look at the card, kids. And so we're going through all these cards. We look at the first hole. Cause they're like, all right, if it says four on there, then like we just were wrong, right? Like I just, cause this is the guy who wrote down the scores. He's like, I must have just written down, we look at the card and there's a five erased with a new four and a circle over it. So now Yip fell to the floor when that happened. He literally fell to the floor, cause this is a dream. This is a literal dream for him. Our now quick assumption is that after they had gotten the signatures, they had went to the card, erased the five, put a four in and then submitted it. So that's like, that's as illegal as it gets in the game. That's illegal in every sense of the word. So you're getting people to, there it is. So on YouTube you can see there's legit, and that four is different than the fours to the right of it, right? The guy who kept a card kept a clean card.

Speaker 5:
[27:47] Yeah, it's not even the same four.

Speaker 2:
[27:49] Not even the same four. So we're losing our mind now.

Speaker 1:
[27:51] That's a new four.

Speaker 4:
[27:53] On the last show we talked about Catch Me If You Can, this is literally Catch Me If You Can.

Speaker 2:
[27:56] So yeah, you can see the five is clear as day, right? So now we go, all right, so we go over to Clay, the head pro over at the park, and he's kind of going all over the place with this. He's like, there's no way this is happening. We end up calling the caddy who was in that group, because now we're trying to do the investigation. The caddy was like, I don't really remember the putting out, but he goes, if I had a gun to my head, I'm gonna say it was a five. He goes, I don't think they made that bomb. He's like, I was with the other guys, I was cleaning their clubs, but there's no way those guys made it up and down from that spot, I really don't think so. So now we're like, all right, playing partners said that they saw a five, the caddy saw a five, now what do we do? So we end up calling the guys, all right? So now I go into a quiet room, I call the people that are being accused of this. And mind you, these are, I had talked to these guys at dinner after the round, and they're members at elite golf clubs. Great guys, by the way, had drinks with them, we were sharing sun cruisers, we're talking about mutual friends that we've seen across the country and played with. So I'm thinking to myself, this had to have been a mistake somehow, and I'm still going to hold out that shadow of doubt, of that potential that may have been a mistake, and I'll say that after. But I called one of the guys and I go, hey, here's the story, we're not going to expose your names or anything, we're not trying to ruin anybody's life, we're not trying to make anyone of the worst day of work ever. This is what's happening. The guys that you're planning and say something happened on the first hole. I don't even know that I got really too specific. The guy immediately at the airport goes, ah, you know what, I think we may have made a five. He basically cut me off. I don't think it was a four, dude, we're so sorry about that. So it was immediate, we basically caught you. So they admitted to it right away, they said, do whatever you have to do, just qualify as obviously. He was answering for the other guy that submitted the card. So the guy that I had called, who his four was written down in Golf Genius and his four was written on the scorecard. He's the one to answer the phone, but he's claiming that his partner is the one who handed in the card after getting the signatures. And his partner was already on another flight somewhere else. So he didn't have any answers for me, but he goes, dude, we made a five. I don't know what else to tell you. You're calling me with allegations. I'm admitting to it. Maybe my partner did something. I don't know. What I'm maybe saying happened was they were, they thought that they were seven under the entire day. That's happened to me times where I'm like, I know what I'm at. And then you look back at your card and maybe they were thinking through the holes, just like their opponents were. And they're like, oh, we definitely made a four on that hole. Maybe they forgot that they had hit one way left. They thought they drove the ball there. You know, like there's things that do happen. My only, my stance on that's like, you cannot change the score after signatures have been done. That's quite literally the meanest thing you can do. And the biggest dirt bag move you can possibly make on a golf course, especially in a golf tournament. So they were obviously in the wrong. The conversations I had had with these guys after the round of golf, the drinks that I had had with them, the stories I had shared with them. I can't imagine they would have stayed around and been so cordial and so, I don't know, talkative and graceful about, they were so thankful about the round of golf and talking about the stuff they had gotten. I couldn't believe it. There was these guys. So I'm going to just end it at that. I don't know necessarily that they were trying to do anything to anyone, but they admitted to it immediately and we moved on and the team that got, that was at 6-under moved into the spot and they're going to be going to Greyhawk. And it wasn't the guys that accused them that got in. So it's not like they were out to get any blood. It was just another group that ended up getting in and going to Greyhawk for the championship. So that was the whole deal. It was chaos. People were screaming when I got in the mic and announced it. And yeah, it was a wild scene, man, for the first Barstool Classic. But what do you guys kind of think after hearing through the whole entire scenario?

Speaker 5:
[32:00] I'm on the other side of the planet than you. They're fucking cheaters. They should be banished from the Barstool Classic forever. Take their name off. They're out. Nobody in their right mind changes a score after the round, after everyone signs. There's lots of cheating in golf. Still see it on the tour. So those guys are done. We're not allowing them in the Barstool Classic ever again. And sayonara, man. And I wish you would call out their names because what is wrong with the world? If somebody is willing to go to that level, to go to Greyhawk and play golf, give me a break, dude. And especially if you say they're members of elite clubs and have lots of friends in the business. That's a joke, man. I'm out on those two guys. I don't know who they are, but they're dead to me.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] I fall in the same. I want to be able to say that too. I'm so stunned at the type of clubs that they belong to, that they would even care about playing. And you know what I mean? Like, that's the part to me. That's like, why would you go through all of this just to get, I know the Barstool Classic is incredible and it's an awesome achievement and it's cool to have your name on the trophy and the whole entire deal, but to do this and think you weren't going to get caught, to me, I always try and see the better side in people in that part. But I totally understand.

Speaker 5:
[33:10] Completely, completely understand. They know we're going to talk about this on here. So if they really made an honest mistake, the first thing they would do is like, dude, I've got to explain to you what happened. I was over there. I thought my partner made four. He told me he made four. I put four down. But nobody does that after everyone signs the card.

Speaker 2:
[33:29] No, I agree.

Speaker 4:
[33:30] It's also tough that it's right on the line of qualifying or not qualifying. That's where people look at that and be like, these guys weren't in last place or second to last place, where it wouldn't matter regardless. I mean, if you do it, you're still a dirt bag. But if it gets you into the qualifying event, into the championship, that's where people are like, oh, well, clearly something's afoot.

Speaker 1:
[33:51] Yeah. Look, it is way easier when we weren't there chatting with these guys to be like fucking barium because whatever. It's just that's how remote versus in-person stuff works with human interaction. Psychotic move, absolutely psychotic move. I can't, I, you know, look, we have, after every Barstool Classic round, there is a good 20 to 30 minute delay because we simply can't get everyone's scorecard with four signatures on it because tracking people down with sun cruisers and the whole deal is difficult, but there's a fucking reason that we do it. And that is because, you know, there's only so many safeguards we could put out there to protect against cheating. If people really, really want to cheat, they can. But the other day, you get paired with a random group. Almost every single pairing is a completely random group. And those two people have to keep your score and then sign for it on the scorecard. And so there's like a level right there of, you know, those guys that they played with clearly, to some degree, check the card, we're like, yep, that's what they made, signed it. And then those guys afterwards, going and changing it while the information is public, because we keep live scoring on like where the qualifying line is going to be and where isn't, is just as brutal a cheating as it can possibly fucking get. And so, yeah, it is tough, man. You don't want to ruin people's entire lives because they changed the score on a golf ground, but also like, you know what you're getting into, it's the Barstool Classic. We usually tell people in the announcements at the beginning that we'll like publicly shame you if you like cheat, but we kind of do that as a deterrent. We don't really want to be publicly shaming anybody. So dude, it's fucking tough. It's tough not to agree with everything Kiz is saying, but fuck it. It is like, yeah, it's. I think you guys did a great job of the investigation, by the way. I don't know that.

Speaker 2:
[35:52] Yeah, it was tough. Like you didn't want to have to make that call and say like, did you guys do this? I wish that the guy had said, yeah, we made a four. Those guys are wrong. I wish that there was some sort of right.

Speaker 5:
[36:02] Yeah, that would have ended it right there.

Speaker 2:
[36:05] Oh, yeah, they they that's all they had to do was say, yeah, we made a four and just stand by it because they they didn't know that the guys that they had played with truly didn't know for a fact. Like there was a lot of question because they were like they were all over the place on that hole and like they were on another team's fairway. And then like they came back to us and we weren't paying attention because we were rattled that we weren't playing a par five like well. But the wind at our back, like they were just rattled and they're like, we didn't see them celebrate, but we don't know. Like that was also three hours ago. You know, I mean, like they're like, we have no idea what happened on that hole. That was the only one that stuck. The thing that was the aha moment for us was that was the hole that stood out to them in their mind. And then we went and checked this card and it was a erased five with a four.

Speaker 4:
[36:47] We lost our minds. We were like, holy fuck.

Speaker 2:
[36:50] This is, I felt like an investigator. Like I really felt like I was in, you know, like one of those daytime police shows.

Speaker 4:
[36:57] You can't make it up that that was yet the first event.

Speaker 5:
[37:00] Yeah. And if the roles were reversed, dude, I would have been calling y'all incessantly after that and be like, dude, did we get it figured out? I screwed that up. Maybe I thought he made a four.

Speaker 2:
[37:11] Totally.

Speaker 5:
[37:11] And then when I was the last one to do the card, I put it in and I would come out publicly and be like, all right, don't want anyone in the world to think I'm a cheater.

Speaker 2:
[37:19] That's right.

Speaker 1:
[37:20] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[37:20] Yeah. I haven't heard from anyone. It's not like they reached out to me. I mean, I'm the one that made the call. I also, I mean, maybe I'm just too nice in those scenarios. I also like on the call was at the end, which I've learned like the legal jargon of this. I was at the end. I was like, by the way, like they've been recording all this. Are you okay if we put that out? And they're like, absolutely not. He's like, you just accused us of like, like cheating the Barstool Classic. You can't use any of that audio. I was like, all right. I probably should have said that in the beginning before I accused you of anything. That's what I've been told by the lawyer. You gotta say that in the beginning. But also in Florida, you could have just put out whatever. Whatever. It was a whole thing, dude. It was an absolute scene. And yeah, at the end of the day, the other team that ended up getting in and the team that they play with, we all came to the same conclusion where it's like, well, we don't want these guys to go home and like not have jobs tomorrow. Like that's fucking insane. Because you know how the internet works. Like everyone was like, it is what it is. These guys are complete scumbags. And the fact that they did that is insane. But the right guys got in, they admitted to it, they're on their way, they apologize for it. We still haven't gotten an answer as to how it happened or why it happened. I'd love to talk to the other guy about it, because I would love to hear the guy that actually submitted the card, what his thought process was in changing a score after getting other people to sign their name. I mean, signing a name on a document is like as old school of a confirmation as we have as humans, like, hey, here's this thing. Put your name on it after looking at it, so that we all agree that this is exactly what the stuff was at the time of you signing it. And if you don't live by that rule, like you don't live by any rules, then that's like, that's crazy. These guys are writing their name next to it, and then you're changing it. That's bad, bad.

Speaker 4:
[39:00] Taking an eraser to the Constitution after they all signed it.

Speaker 2:
[39:03] Well, yeah, then like empires fall. You know what I mean? If we don't hold true to that, like empires fall. You know what I mean? Like there's no truth in anything, then.

Speaker 5:
[39:11] Hey, did I mishear you, or did you say the team they were playing with was the team that got in after they?

Speaker 2:
[39:17] No, it wasn't. It was the team that they were playing with. Yeah, the team they were playing with. Right, because people were saying, what if the team that they were playing with changed it and them over?

Speaker 5:
[39:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:29] But the team they were playing with was Hot Sean's team. And Hot Sean's friends did get in. Like that, like that, they were part of their crew. I don't, I'm not going to say the Hot Sean. There's no way they all, they didn't do that. Like they know, I know for a fact they didn't. And also this guy admitted to making a five.

Speaker 5:
[39:45] Well, yeah, I was about to say the bottom line is what did they make? If they made a five and they put a four down, they're out.

Speaker 2:
[39:52] In the store five, pulled it left, hit the palm tree right off the T-box. I remember it because we were doing the first T announcements, pulled it way left onto hole three or whatever that is on the left side of the first hole. And they said he hit one way right and then hit one onto the green. They all agreed it was about like 15 to 20 feet and that there was like no celebration, nothing. They kind of just like put it up there, knocked it in. They were dealing with their own thing. They made a five and they called it a day. So yeah, crazy Barstool Classic first day. Absolutely insane. I wish Riggs was there because I'm not the commissioner of the thing and I've never dealt with a rural situation, but it felt like we got down.

Speaker 1:
[40:28] I'm devastated. I missed it. I live for that.

Speaker 2:
[40:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:30] I don't know if anybody could have, I don't know if anybody could have executed better detective work than you guys did. I think you did it pretty flawlessly. Yeah, we did it.

Speaker 2:
[40:38] It was okay. It was good. It was good. And like I said, no one was malicious there. No one was getting too angry. It was a great crew that stood around and even throughout the whole entire process. Even the guys that were on the cut line, they sometimes will have people come up to us and they'll be like, we want to be the alternate. This happened. We had slow play in our group and like, what you guys should do right by us. The guys that were on the cut line, they end up getting in were super nice and respectful. They kept coming over to us being like, listen, I understand that shit happens at these things. We would love to go to Scottsdale and play for the championship of this thing. We think we deserve it because everything we're hearing is that these guys literally erased this thing. But they're like, just let us know, we're not going to be up your ass. We'll be in the corner over there. We're not going to be screaming, hooting and hollering, getting everyone going. So it was good. It was a nice, it was a easy way of getting through this whole entire thing, luckily. Because situations like that, you could have fist, you could have fist flying. You know what I mean? Like if you cheat someone out of something like that, I mean, who knows the type of person, you get the wrong crew in there, tables start getting tossed.

Speaker 4:
[41:41] I mean, Riggs and I were separating people at the championship after.

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Speaker 2:
[47:39] I heard a crazy story from a player the next day, because people were buzzing about this in day two, right? And it definitely scared people straight, like everyone, in the announcements in the morning, everyone's like, oh, we don't want to be those guys, because that's a crazy move. Some guy came up to me and was telling me about this cheating story at Maidstone. And apparently people have heard about this. This is an insane story, right? So this guy said that his friend's grandpa was playing in a member guest at Maidstone, which is a member, or a member member, right? Huge tournament, huge event. And they're playing this par three. Everyone hits their shot. One ball goes over the green and they're kind of looking for it. And everyone else goes back to their putts and whatever. And the guy that went over the green ends up chipping up onto the green, putting it close, scooping it up because they said that's good. Everyone else putt out. And one guy, this guy's friend's grandfather, goes up to pick up his ball by the hole. And there's a ball in the hole. And it was the guy who hit it over the green. He made a hole in one, dropped a ball behind the green because he thought he hit it over the green, lied about it, played his hole, got in the cart, went to go drive away. And they look, they go, dude, you made an ace. Also, you're kicked out of Maidstone forever. And they kicked him out, kicked him out of the tournament. I mean, I think the guy had to like sell us, like it was over, like it was over. Like he made a hole in one, it was the worst thing that's ever happened to him. Is that not the craziest story you've ever heard happen at a golf course like this?

Speaker 5:
[49:19] What an idiot.

Speaker 1:
[49:23] I feel like this is a golf like old school fable, because I've heard this story applied to different courses before. This like exact same story.

Speaker 2:
[49:32] Because I told this story to someone else yesterday, and they're like, oh, I've heard that before, and I know it was Maidstone. So maybe this guy just through the grapevine has been saying it's his friend's grandpa, or maybe the friend's grandpa has heard it. So maybe this is a famous story.

Speaker 1:
[49:45] Maybe the Maidstone one is the real one, because I've heard it. Actually, I'm with you. I can't remember which, I've heard this before. The first time I heard it, I fell off my fucking chair. I was like, ha, what a fucking idiot. That's insane. And it teaches you what kind of scumbagries out there. I have heard that before. Wherever that is the Genesis from is one of the best things that's ever happened.

Speaker 5:
[50:07] We got to ask Dewey. Dewey grew up at Maidstone. I'm on my phone for this one, so I can't text while I'm doing it. So text Dewey and find out.

Speaker 2:
[50:14] Oh, yeah, we do have to find that out.

Speaker 1:
[50:16] You could text him right now.

Speaker 2:
[50:18] You could pull that up and text.

Speaker 5:
[50:19] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[50:20] When Frankie told me that story yesterday, I had to get up out of my chair and walk around for like five minutes.

Speaker 1:
[50:25] It's fucking insane, insane.

Speaker 2:
[50:29] Imagine being the playing part of being like, hey, found your ball and like, oh, what? Like, yeah, it's in the cup, made an ace. Congratulations, pack your shit.

Speaker 5:
[50:41] I was playing a big gambling match one time in a mini tour event, par five blind second shot. I hit this three wood and we get up there and it's like all in the last hole. I can't find my ball anywhere and I'm getting pissed. Look in the bunker short over the green and they all just play out and they're like, well, Kiz, you lost the hole and then as one dude putz it in, he's like, holy shit, your ball's in the hole. You made it to Albatross on a par five. But unlike the Maidstone guy, I didn't just randomly drop a ball and act like I found it.

Speaker 4:
[51:13] Right.

Speaker 2:
[51:14] Dude, someone else told us at the Classic yesterday that they had played Augusta. Not a big deal. And that they had made, sorry, it was his brother and he was playing with him. His brother made a two on 15 and a two on 16. They call them, they call them double deuce.

Speaker 5:
[51:30] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[51:31] Wow.

Speaker 5:
[51:32] That's impressive.

Speaker 2:
[51:33] I said that's gotta be, that's gotta be the only two, two that's ever happened on 1516, right?

Speaker 1:
[51:39] That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2:
[51:41] An albatross to a birdie at Augusta.

Speaker 4:
[51:44] I mean, yeah, like when if ever has the last two happened on 15, like tournament play, never.

Speaker 1:
[51:48] Shot her around the world, boys. Shot her around the world. My guy, 1935, Gene Sarazin, one of my favorite Masters moments. I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it. One of my favorite Masters moments.

Speaker 4:
[51:59] Riggs had that moment in our Masters draft and he really walked us through the emotions of watching that shot happen. And really, it took, it brought him to tears, I think.

Speaker 2:
[52:09] We need to know if you followed up with a birdie on 16.

Speaker 1:
[52:13] I'm trying to actually find that out right now.

Speaker 5:
[52:15] But you and you and Jeans Harrison go way back, Riggs, you're tight.

Speaker 1:
[52:21] Yeah, we were doing favorite Masters moments. And that's just again, I, Trent described it perfectly. I walked him through, but that the emotional up and downs of that forewood that he hit in there, unbelievable, honestly, from 235 kids.

Speaker 2:
[52:34] Kids, are you a golf historian? Like, are you obsessed with like the old school stories of golf?

Speaker 5:
[52:40] No, I know nothing either. Like, you asked me something that's outside of my window of playing, no chance on the.

Speaker 2:
[52:48] It's interesting. Like the more professional athletes we've met, there's like a certain pocket of professional athletes that are obsessed with everything that's ever happened before them. You can ask a hockey player about certain guys that have goal records or whatever it might be, and they'll know everything one through a hundred. And like there's other guys like you that just, they kind of came up through the system and just worried about themselves and didn't really watch much. I'm not saying you didn't watch much golf, but like they don't really consume stuff other than their own game.

Speaker 5:
[53:17] Yeah, the guys that can like name what year dudes won tournaments and how many I can do that for my own game, but that I couldn't tell you anything like even in TV. Now I'll be like, man, who won this tournament last year when I'm about to do the do the tournament? And I have to go like look through and do my work. It's it's pretty fascinating. But boy, I can remember every shot I hit and why I did it and what I was thinking and where the win was and why we hit that club and I miss hit it or I mean, it's crazy what I can remember on my own. But I couldn't tell you one thing about, you know, five years ago, hardly anyone else did.

Speaker 1:
[53:54] It is funny how I have a pretty similar memory and I almost remember things historically that I've read that happened before I was alive versus things that happened a year ago. Like, I'm with you where somebody asked me the other day who won like the Stanley Cup last year and I was like, I have nothing and I live in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I'm watching every game I remember and it took me forever and I finally got there and it was the, you know, we had the Panthers Oilers going back and forth. Like, I finally got there. But for like 10 minutes, I was like, I don't even remember who made the playoffs last year. It was a year, guys. It's like fucking crazy, crazy. Kiz, have you ever, have you ever had any, like what kind of cheating issues have you ever seen in golf? You must have seen a bunch play in competitive golf.

Speaker 5:
[54:45] Oh, yeah, man, I've had, you know, guys, I've seen guys at scoring trailers refusing to sign scorecards where they're playing competitors because they think they cheated. Had, you know, situation on the course where I was like, wow, his ball is closer than I ever thought it was going to be while I'm playing with a person. Yeah, there's been, I mean, obviously the P Reid stuff in the bunker and various things he's done in his career were pretty blatantly obvious. But there's definitely cheating that happens and sticks with you for a lifetime.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] Yeah, right.

Speaker 4:
[55:20] Because we think about like we watch golf coverage and, you know, in the past couple years, there's been a couple of instances where like they'll be looking at whoever's got the ball and in the highest frame rate you can have and their clubs kind of behind it, they're brushing the grass and people are like, oh, that ball moved. And that's what they think about now with cheating scandals in terms of golf. But what we're talking about is more like tours that aren't on TV. Like I gotta imagine when there's people playing on these smaller mini tours and you just there's no TV coverage, there's no radio coverage, there's no nothing. Am I right to assume that there's some shady shit going on a certain percentage of the time or a guy's pretty honest mostly?

Speaker 5:
[55:59] I would say the guys that cheat always cheat no matter what level it is. It's just innate in them. And I would guarantee you that on the lower levels, there's more of it because they can get away with it. And they know how crucial it is to succeed for their future. And, um, you know, for the majority, my entire career on tour, I never saw anything sketchy. All the guys are very good, but you know, the guys that had the history of it, you always watch them more closely. It was fascinating to see. I mean, remember a President's Cup that the Americans were, like, gonna stop the tournament because of a situation they thought was happening on the other side. And even in all these President's Cup teams rooms that I've been in now, being Assistant Captain twice, they still talk about that situation. And it's fascinating, man, because that would ruin a person's life and career if it came to that, you know, all the fruition that they got called out. We stopped a tournament over it. Like, you're just done, dude.

Speaker 1:
[57:04] You'd be done. God damn. Yeah, that's-

Speaker 2:
[57:08] What's your take on this 2026 version of, like what Trent said, where a ball oscillates a millimeter when they're zooming in at 8K because, like, a wedge is behind the ball in high rough. And we're saying, like, that the guy was supposed to see that. Meanwhile, with the naked eye, no one could ever see a ball moving like that.

Speaker 5:
[57:28] Yeah, I don't think there's any part in the game for us to go give a guy a penalty for something you can't see with the naked eye. And quite frankly, I don't think you should even be able to see something move on TV and call it in. Now, if it's blatant, like, a guy moved his ball or, you know, changed his lie or, but like something totally unaware happening, you shouldn't ever be penalized.

Speaker 2:
[57:51] I've always said that the rule is funny because we care so much about golf balls staying in perfect position until they get to the green, which is the most important part of where you're actually placing a golf ball. Like, think about when you mark a golf ball, are you putting it back on the exact same dimple in the same sense? No chance. There's no chance. If you ask the greatest golfers in the world to put the ball back on the exact same spot that they marked their ball, it would be zero out of 100. But OK, so I put my iron behind a ball in the fair, in the rough, 185 yards out from the green, which so many things can now happen from here to the hole. And you're going to tell me that that ball moving one dimple to the left because the grass moved underneath, maybe a fucking ant moved underneath it. I'm supposed to stop and take a stroke for that. Meanwhile, I can move the ball an inch basically on the green. That's crazy. That's that's insane to me.

Speaker 1:
[58:45] It is insane. The rule. It's funny, the TV rule that they changed. I thought they had kind of gotten rid of it to a degree, but they just reduced it from two strokes to one stroke. I didn't realize that was all the difference that they made.

Speaker 5:
[59:00] So if you and they also have rules officials at PGA Tour headquarters watching the broadcast all day, like watching the videos. And I mean, we go to them when we have a rule situation on the air. But I can see them in our truck, like the camera, that we show them sitting there watching screens and communicating with the rules officials on the ground.

Speaker 1:
[59:22] That's wild. That's wild. And it's funny because we're like, we're coming at this at the original part of the conversation, like, damn, how do you police everyone? We got to get them out there and make sure people aren't cheating. And then the other side of it, it's sort of like, well, if the fucking ball moves a millimeter and it's determined, right, the rule states that it says a new rule reducing the penalty from two strokes to one stroke if a player unknowingly moves their ball, addressing situations where high-definition television replays reveal movement not visible to the player in real time. That's crazy that that's a penalty at all.

Speaker 2:
[59:57] Crazy. The wording makes it impossible that at the end of that, you get a stroke penalty. It's not visible to the player at all and it was not their fault that it happened. And then at the end, it's like penalty. How does any of that result in a penalty?

Speaker 5:
[60:11] Frankie, as bad as you felt trying to call and do that full investigation, having to have that real conversation with that guy, imagine being like this happening on the last hole of a tournament and that rules official on the radio from some guy at Ponte Vedra like, hey, Cam Young's ball just moved before he hits his wedge on 18 to players. You need to go tell him he's got a stroke penalty. Could you imagine having to be that guy?

Speaker 2:
[60:36] No, I can't.

Speaker 4:
[60:37] That should almost be a trap for the people who call. Those people that call, they got to be put on some sort of list. Because if you're calling into to critique a golf tournament like that, I think the player should actually gain a stroke. They should actually be in a better position than they were before. That person is insane.

Speaker 1:
[60:58] It's like in the NHL, if you challenge and you're wrong, you get a two-minute penalty for your team after. It should be like people call in from their couches and they're wrong about it. Whatever that difference in money would have been for the player if they were penalized for that week, that person should have to pay into a kitty. I love that.

Speaker 5:
[61:18] It'll be charitable dollars that the tour gives away. Thank you for your $108,000 there, Steve. We're going to give that to FedEx St. Jude.

Speaker 4:
[61:27] I'm also just picturing it's definitely a corded phone that they're calling from. It's not a cell. This person is living in the past. They have a landline and they're like, I just saw something in a golf tournament that I don't agree with.

Speaker 2:
[61:39] Speaking of crazy rules, I've been having this in the back of my mind. It's been a fire in my chest since I saw it. The Carolina Hurricanes game against the Ottawa Senators, they were in overtime and there was a goal, a game-winning goal that was then challenged. You can go back in hockey. For anyone that doesn't know, once the puck enters the offensive zone, no matter what happens, 10 minutes can go by as long as the puck doesn't exit the offensive zone. You can go back and challenge the entry of that and see if it was offside and you can reverse the call. Nine shots could happen between the time you bring it in and the time that you challenge it. This happened. They went in, they got into the offensive zone, they skated around, they ended up scoring, they challenged it. It was deemed offside, which was a questionable call too, because they said the guy didn't have any possession going across the line, whatever. So now you're saying to me that in that rule that you went back in time and you can take a goal out of the net off the scoreboard. But within that time frame that they were skating around the offensive zone, someone had slashed a guy on the breakaway, on the entry, and they gave them a penalty shot. So they're saying like we went back in time and we take the goal away, you were offside, but what happened after you were offside, we're going to call penalty on that. That got me up in arms. I'm like how can one thing be true and the other thing not? How can it not be a goal but a penalty after that time of entering the zone, and not both or neither? You know what I'm saying? Like that-

Speaker 1:
[63:07] 100%.

Speaker 2:
[63:08] That drove me, it's like the NHL has a gap, a hole, a loophole in their rules, and that was the wrong call. I couldn't believe that in this day and age with everything that we've got, all the information we've got, you can still make a wrong call like that on national television with all the stuff that they have.

Speaker 1:
[63:28] The only rule, the only call that should possibly be allowed in that erased time from history should be a major penalty. That's ruled during, like if you try to hurt somebody. If you drill somebody from behind into the boards and you would get a five-minute major penalty, which is why those rules exist, you should still keep that for trying to-

Speaker 2:
[63:48] Because you can get that penalty during a dead time as well. Like if the guys, during a time out, TV time out, if you go over to the guy's bench and like cross check them in the neck, they're going to kick you out of the game and probably give you some sort of unsportsmanlike conduct or a major penalty for sure.

Speaker 1:
[64:03] And you should just be, you should just be penalized for trying to hurt someone. Like no matter when-

Speaker 2:
[64:08] Right, this was a slashing on a breakaway after the offside entry where they're like, okay, it's not a goal and it is offside, but after he had advanced through the game, they're basically saying that now that's a live play, which like, if it's a live play, that's not a goal. Dude drove me fucking nuts, man.

Speaker 1:
[64:24] No, it is crazy, but I can also see them being like, we have to enact the rules, because if you add your iPad guy doing the replay, and you determine on the bench that it was definitely gonna be offsides, and when we get a whistle, we're gonna challenge, and you're like, well guess what guys, now go fucking head hunting for the next two minutes and just kill all of their players, because there's no penalty. Kill them, fucking murder them. So I think you gotta have some kind of rule in there, but that's preposterous. I think the entire rule is preposterous. I don't even think they should be able to challenge offsides in hockey. Honestly, I think it's such a...

Speaker 2:
[65:00] Well, you extinguished the fire for sure. I mean, that's gotta be why that they're allowed to do that.

Speaker 4:
[65:05] So funny watching. I mean, Frankie had to be hooting and hollering at his house. Anybody would listen, and Riggs was like, but this is probably why they do it. Frankie's got that smile on. He's like, oh yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 5:
[65:17] He's like, never thought of that. Never thought of that idea.

Speaker 4:
[65:21] Hannah has probably heard about this ruling for 48 hours on like why this is a problem. And Riggs is like, well, this is probably why they do it. And Frankie's like, sure.

Speaker 5:
[65:33] You better go apologize to Hannah, Frankie, for her just having to listen to that bullshit for two days.

Speaker 2:
[65:38] Dinner last night's all I was talking about.

Speaker 4:
[65:43] That's great.

Speaker 1:
[65:45] I want you to know I hate the rule in general. I don't even think, yeah, offside shouldn't even be reviewable in my opinion. I think the ref calls it in real time. The whole point of offsides isn't to come down to a millimeter like it is for a goal. A goal should obviously be reviewable. If it goes in, it doesn't go in. But offsides, the whole point of offsides in the game and is based on the flow of the game. And you can't get behind defense. If the ref makes a judgment call in real time and it's off by a millimeter, that doesn't really change anything in the actual flow of the game, in my opinion. And so I hate that you can even review it, let alone go back and take away goals. I think the rule in general sucks. I hate it.

Speaker 2:
[66:23] I think it should be egregious things that happen are reviewed by the league, because we would assume and we would hope that the league is a unbiased opinion and confidently saying that that is offside. So like it would have to trigger something in Toronto where they're like, okay, we have to step in. That was definitely offside. The guys on the ice missed that. But to have this coach's challenge where they pay a guy a ton of money that's in the locker room that just zooms in and as every entry happens in the game, they zoom in on every single guy that's entering the zone and they alert the guy on the bench saying, hey, if a puck goes in while we're in the south of the zone, make sure the puck goes offside, make sure that you buy a millimeter, make sure that you guys challenge us. That's guy's full time job. I'm not trying to take jobs away from these video guys because they're the best in the business, but that's fucking crazy that that's what the game has turned into.

Speaker 1:
[67:17] Yeah, I agree. I agree.

Speaker 2:
[67:19] You don't want them to miss something that was eight feet offside because if that's determining who's the best team on the ice, that's bullshit.

Speaker 4:
[67:26] Speaking of rules and stuff, and we've been talking a lot about it the whole show, I saw, I read somewhere that the Corn Fairy, maybe next season, the Corn Fairy Tour is going to start publicizing pace of play stuff on like player profiles. Did you see that?

Speaker 1:
[67:43] Yeah, it says, so it says PGA Tour's slow play policing takes big step on the feeder circuit. It says, starting next month, speed of play statistics for Corn Fairy Tour players will be made public for the first time following a decision made by the PGA Tour Policy Board, shout to our boy Hoffman who was on that forever, in November. The data for average stroke times has been privately available to individuals throughout 2026, but will now be included among player profiles and staff pages on Corn Fairy Tour's website. I like that.

Speaker 4:
[68:25] Pretty interesting.

Speaker 5:
[68:26] That just means they're testing it there to be able to take it to the tour level if they're so inclined.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] Would you take a pace of play on your pro career? Have you thought about it a lot?

Speaker 5:
[68:36] I didn't. Yeah, I never really had a huge issue in my whole career on tour. I mean, it was slow always, but they should have no reason to be slow anymore with the field size. That's part of the reason the tour talked them into doing these smaller fields was of the pace of play. So I don't have, excuse me, I'm dying over here. I don't have any of the data to be able to tell you if this year the pace of play is better. But that was part of the reason we went to smaller fields is not only to get the best players in the world playing together more often with smaller fields and all that, but also pace of play. We would, you know, nobody, I always had two sides of this. Like you guys are all golf nerds and you knew that on Sunday at six o'clock, every Sunday, golf was going to finish. And they all said it was a bad product when we couldn't make the cut on Friday night and guys had to come back on Saturday to finish because of daylight. And I'm like, well, the golf nerd doesn't have a clue that I'm out here at 730 Saturday morning, trying to part of the last hole to make the cut. They just know at three o'clock, they can turn their TV on and listen on NBC. So I had kind of the double edge argument of that. Like I didn't want us to not be able to make the cut on Friday night because I wanted to play twosomes on Saturday and Sunday. And if you have to come back Saturday, you obviously have to play threesomes, which kind of sucks. And I think the coolest part of the PGA Tour is that if you're playing great, you're last on Sunday in the hardest conditions and you have everything on the line. But nobody cares if you make the cut on Friday night. And the average golf viewer isn't changing the way they watch golf based on that.

Speaker 1:
[70:24] Great point. Yeah, that is a good point. Really good point. Yeah. Yeah. I very much agree with that. I don't have anything to get.

Speaker 5:
[70:32] I don't know if I answered your question at all, but I came at it from both sides.

Speaker 2:
[70:39] I was probably hooting and hollering at a time about why guys were coming back and he just answered my question there too. I'm getting a lot of great answers today.

Speaker 4:
[70:47] Yeah, we love good points. Good points we made is good for the show.

Speaker 1:
[70:52] I never thought about the fact that if people have to come back Saturday morning and finish round two, that you simply just cannot reshuffle the leaderboard and send people off in twosomes. It's not logistically possible.

Speaker 5:
[71:06] No, because it could affect, like if he misses the cut, it affects who goes out first. You gotta basically say, all right Trent, you might play at 740 or you might play at 810. We don't really know. Just be out here at 6 a.m. in case. It just doesn't work.

Speaker 1:
[71:23] Right, yep, that's crazy. That's a great point.

Speaker 5:
[71:26] And it always happens at your tournament, Riggs. We never could finish in Arizona. Never could finish.

Speaker 1:
[71:34] Well, this year, I believe, was the first-

Speaker 5:
[71:37] Freezing balls.

Speaker 1:
[71:39] I know, I know. I was out there with you one time when you were, you were like trying to, I was walking with you on like a Friday night inside like the ropes and you were trying to get it in and you were like, we fucking need to hurry because if we play these two more holes, I don't have to come back in the morning.

Speaker 5:
[71:54] And I remember, I don't want to play 40 degrees on Saturday morning when I can't get like nine becomes driver five iron instead of driver nine iron.

Speaker 1:
[72:02] Right, right. I remember that. I very much remember that. I want to say this last year for us at the Phoenix Open was the first year was like 120 instead of 144, 155 or whatever it used to be. And I don't think we had that issue. But yeah, that's also, you know, our tournament is right around.

Speaker 5:
[72:23] It's before daylight savings.

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Speaker 2:
[73:11] They are so good. Kiz, you like a Suncruiser or two?

Speaker 5:
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Speaker 2:
[73:34] That's true. I mean, we were calling them yesterday at the Classic, and we were saying that they're like two sippers. Like you have one big gulp, and it's so good, and it's all, like, whatever mix they've gotten there between the lemonade or the iced tea or the half and half and the vodka, it just goes down like a drink you've been yearning for your whole entire life. And like that next sip, it's gone. Like, let me get another flavor. It's crazy. It's a two-sipper. It's nuts.

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Speaker 5:
[79:05] I've got so many questions. Can I start?

Speaker 1:
[79:07] Please.

Speaker 5:
[79:09] If you hit it in there, do you have to dive in to get your ball to identify it?

Speaker 1:
[79:14] Great question. Great.

Speaker 5:
[79:17] One, because it's got to be deep enough for you to jump into it. So it's got to probably be six feet deep. Now, I've got to go. Because you can't just say, well, I saw it go in that water. I'm like, well, prove it. Get in there. Show it to me. And then two, who paid for that?

Speaker 1:
[79:37] It can't be the cheapest build out in the world.

Speaker 5:
[79:39] No, dude. That took some serious machinery to dig a fucking giant hole in the side of the golf course there.

Speaker 2:
[79:46] Dude, I'm getting quotes to put in a pool in my house. It's ruining my life and my marriage. I mean, they just put a pool in. They put a pool in like it was nothing.

Speaker 4:
[79:56] Connected to that, I would have loved to have had a live camera at the meeting when they told the grounds crew about this.

Speaker 5:
[80:03] Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4:
[80:05] By the way, they want a splash pond put in.

Speaker 2:
[80:09] It looks like there's lighting on the floor or something like that.

Speaker 1:
[80:12] It looks nice. It looks absolutely phenomenal.

Speaker 5:
[80:14] Question, are we taking this out before the Houston Open next spring? So do we just like cover up the pond and then we tear it back down and build it again?

Speaker 1:
[80:25] Here's the answer to that. So the LPGA knows the makeshift pool is not a perfect solution. This is according to golf.com where I read this is not a perfect solution. It has already drawn a few eyeball rolls on social media, but given time constraints, it was the most feasible option. After the 2026 Tournament, course architect Tom Doak will redesign the finishing hole with a permanent pond on the right hand side.

Speaker 2:
[80:50] No way! For real?

Speaker 5:
[80:53] That's what I heard they were doing originally and I was like, how are they going to build that in a month? And all of us in that TV were like, yeah, they said they're going to get it done, but this makes more sense.

Speaker 2:
[81:03] Now, let me ask you a question from someone that doesn't really know what's going on. What if this goes to a playoff? Is there ever a situation in which it couldn't end on 18?

Speaker 5:
[81:13] They're going to have to just play 18 over and over again, or they just cart her up there and let her jump off the cart into the pond.

Speaker 2:
[81:21] What if it's like 18, 18, 10, 18, like it ends on 10?

Speaker 5:
[81:26] Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[81:28] Yeah, I don't know if they do it immediately. I don't know that the putt breaks the surface of the earth and then they just sprint into the pot.

Speaker 2:
[81:37] Okay, so then why did it have to be? Okay, because no matter what, they'll always do the ceremony on the 18th green, I guess. They could just put this pond in like the fan section. You know what I mean? Well, right.

Speaker 5:
[81:49] Have you seen any feedback from the players? What are the players saying?

Speaker 1:
[81:54] Yeah, I saw.

Speaker 4:
[81:55] Well, it sounds like they wanted it.

Speaker 1:
[81:57] Charlie Hall.

Speaker 5:
[81:58] Yeah, but I don't know if they've seen that.

Speaker 4:
[82:00] True.

Speaker 1:
[82:00] Charlie Hall was asked about an interview and I don't know if you can find the clip, but it was perfect Charlie Hall. She just goes, there's a pond on 18. I didn't even see it.

Speaker 5:
[82:08] This is what she says.

Speaker 1:
[82:10] I didn't even notice it.

Speaker 2:
[82:12] I haven't seen the water feature on 18.

Speaker 3:
[82:14] So I didn't see a pond, so I didn't assume that there was one.

Speaker 1:
[82:17] Here's another little tidbit that I found incredibly interesting is that when they originally moved it to Carlton Woods for the 2023 through 2025 versions of the events, they said the players told the tournaments organizers that they wanted to keep pond jump alive. So organizers dredged a pond and they ringed it with gator netting to give players peace of mind. I didn't even know gator netting was a real thing. You can just... They could guarantee there's no gators in this pond?

Speaker 5:
[82:51] I don't know about all that.

Speaker 4:
[82:54] Listen, I respect the LPGA Tour players for wanting to carry on a tradition. They're just... They're literally moving mountains to do this, to put in basically like a cold plunge on the 18th hole.

Speaker 2:
[83:08] Can we do a match at Palmetto and jump into that pond that I hit my ball into on one? The winner has to jump into the pond or the loser?

Speaker 5:
[83:17] What do they call that pond? Frankie's pond or something?

Speaker 2:
[83:20] Yeah, Borrelli's pond.

Speaker 5:
[83:21] Borrelli's pond, that's what it is.

Speaker 2:
[83:23] Borrelli's...

Speaker 5:
[83:24] No one's ever seen a ball with the first tee in that pond, and Frankie does it on camera. First shot.

Speaker 2:
[83:30] My favorite thing, I think we said it a couple weeks ago, is those fish had no idea they were on a golf course.

Speaker 5:
[83:35] Hey, I'll never forget that day either. We did like a two-hour chipping lesson, and then you were striping it, and on that hole, y'all had a chip from the front of the green, and you just boned the hell out of it over the green in the woods, and I was like, what did we just do two hours for?

Speaker 2:
[83:52] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, aren't there like big hedges behind a tee box?

Speaker 5:
[83:55] Yeah, yeah, exactly. You just boned it right in the head, just lost ball.

Speaker 2:
[84:02] Yeah, the pond's crazy, man. That's a crazy move. Also, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. They're getting eyeballs on the tournament. People are going to be watching now. They're going to see if they jump in. At the end of the day, it's a great marketing move, and it's what like leagues and teams and all these people need to be doing. You need to get eyeballs on your product and they're doing it.

Speaker 1:
[84:20] I couldn't agree more. I saw this come across my desk on Twitter and I clicked on it. I read every word of that article. I was like, now, what's going on here with this fucking pool? I didn't know the whole history of it. I'm with you. I love it. I think it's hilarious. I can't believe that Tom Doak is completely redesigning the 18th hole of this fantastic golf course to put a giant pond on the right side of it going forward, so people could jump in.

Speaker 5:
[84:45] I hope he makes the hole way harder because it's kind of a bluff finishing hole for the tournament, so it could actually work out.

Speaker 1:
[84:53] No, I agree. I actually saw the rendition of it, and it actually looks like pretty sick. golf.com. Wow. Plunge.

Speaker 4:
[85:04] Wow, what a story.

Speaker 1:
[85:06] Let me see if I can have Ryan Rich and pull this up. The rendition of it looks pretty badass, actually.

Speaker 2:
[85:11] Are they going to get rid of that bunker and just put it all the way up to the green?

Speaker 1:
[85:15] It's going to go all the way up to the right. It's pretty much what it is. How can I put this in like a chat, Ryan Rich and I'm not really great with Riverside, even though we use this for fucking seven years straight.

Speaker 2:
[85:27] Email would probably be best if you just email to me.

Speaker 5:
[85:30] What are the real brains behind the operation handle this, Riggs?

Speaker 1:
[85:34] Well, I found it. I don't want to have to send them the link. You know, it's just kind of a whole thing. It's just to look at a hole, but whatever.

Speaker 4:
[85:42] It's like I'm back on my cousin's radio show.

Speaker 1:
[85:45] I just texted it to you, right, Richard? So hopefully that works out somehow. But outside of that, I don't really have anything. I don't know if anybody's got anything else. Kiz is doing some hunting, it looks like.

Speaker 4:
[85:57] How are you holding up, Kiz, with the sickness?

Speaker 5:
[86:00] I'm just waiting because my daughter has a playoff soccer game in Columbia, South Carolina, tonight, which is like on the way home. So I'm just going to go hit balls down here. And then I'm playing in a tournament this weekend. I'm member guest at Augusta Country Club and I haven't hit balls. So I'm starting to practice again because I'm going to make my comeback at the Colonial in May.

Speaker 2:
[86:23] Come on.

Speaker 1:
[86:23] That's right. It's coming up.

Speaker 5:
[86:25] Yeah. So I got to start practicing.

Speaker 1:
[86:28] It's coming up. We got some big rounds of golf too, that you're going to be playing on camera.

Speaker 2:
[86:31] Now that we see so much of your game, it's amazing to watch like what you kind of fight, like when you just like pull that draw just a little bit. And when you find it, it's so satisfying to watch you hit tee balls, like to watch you on a tee, just absolutely fucking tee off on a nice high draw. Me and Trent look at each other and we're like, God, that must feel good to know exactly what that ball is doing. And then when you make the mistake where you pulled just a little bit, it's like not that much of a mistake. When we make a mistake, we don't know where the next one's going.

Speaker 1:
[87:00] Horrendous.

Speaker 2:
[87:01] You know, like, oh, I just got to go a little bit more high and right.

Speaker 5:
[87:06] That's a fact. I'm sorry, I thought my earbuds died. I'm having all kinds of technical issues. My phone's dying, my earbuds are dying. Can't talk. But yeah, I actually hit six drivers yesterday and I was pool drawing them. So I got to go get that worked out. But they're still in play, unlike air drivers.

Speaker 2:
[87:29] That's what I mean, like they're still in play, but maybe now you're in the rough, so the fairway. But yeah, no, it's been fun to watch. And I can't wait to now watch you tee it up in an actual fucking event.

Speaker 5:
[87:40] I got to get ready with y'all on camera here in about two weeks or something like that. We got a big, big couple of days.

Speaker 2:
[87:46] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:46] We got some real golf courses. We got some absolute. By the way, just so you guys finally see it. That's the rendition.

Speaker 5:
[87:52] Yeah, that's going to be cool.

Speaker 1:
[87:54] Isn't that awesome? Yeah, that's Tom Doak.

Speaker 5:
[87:58] Yeah, I don't make that second shot way harder.

Speaker 1:
[88:00] Yep, I agree. Kind of a hill.

Speaker 2:
[88:03] We won't reveal the courses because like it's honestly insane that we're getting to do what we're getting to do, but we've got a hell of a three round circuit, a Long Island circuit. I'll call it that kids is coming to the island. We're going to, we're going to treat them right.

Speaker 5:
[88:20] Yep. Are we going to go to Borrelli's?

Speaker 2:
[88:22] I would love to go to Borrelli's if the timing works out. I mean, it's just so far from where we're going to be, but.

Speaker 5:
[88:28] Get us a helicopter. You're it.

Speaker 2:
[88:30] Land on top of the 71 year old roof.

Speaker 5:
[88:34] No, I'd rather be the parking lot.

Speaker 1:
[88:39] Yeah, it's going to be incredible. Chasing kids, I think we're going to do, which is very, it's going to be really fun.

Speaker 5:
[88:44] What does that mean?

Speaker 2:
[88:46] Well, it's like we're.

Speaker 5:
[88:49] Don't ruin it, you can just text it to me.

Speaker 2:
[88:50] Like what do we know? It's a debate. Like what do you have to start at? Like if we all started at a number to make it fair for like, you actually have to chase us, essentially. It's almost like fighting off kids.

Speaker 4:
[89:05] Yeah, if we all play our own ball, where does each of us have to start?

Speaker 2:
[89:09] US. Open T's.

Speaker 4:
[89:11] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[89:13] Trent, 30 under. OK, maybe 35.

Speaker 4:
[89:19] OK.

Speaker 5:
[89:20] I mean, we like we're playing golf. Yeah, rules butted out. Ball hole.

Speaker 1:
[89:25] If you hit it out of bounds, you're retaking.

Speaker 2:
[89:26] At all three courses, too. I don't know if you want to do like a three day event. We'll probably just do like individual ones because like you'll have winner.

Speaker 5:
[89:34] The thing with you and Riggs is I don't ever know which one's better because y'all both like either look like you could shoot 75 or you could shoot 95. So I don't really know how to handicap.

Speaker 2:
[89:46] Y'all lost to Trent at Oakmont and I lost to Trent at in Pebble Beach.

Speaker 5:
[89:51] Right.

Speaker 1:
[89:52] Yep.

Speaker 5:
[89:52] Correct. Trent feels like he's going to be around the 90 every time we play 90 ish.

Speaker 4:
[89:58] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[89:59] You two could be all over the map.

Speaker 2:
[90:01] All over the map.

Speaker 4:
[90:02] But that's the idea. I think it's good. I think that'd be fun. Play real golf.

Speaker 5:
[90:08] I'm down. I'm going to go ahead and get my rules official hat ready for the Internet Invitational. And I'll be telling y'all what y'all are doing wrong every time you have a rules hiccup.

Speaker 2:
[90:19] Oh, for sure. We're going to need that.

Speaker 1:
[90:21] I love that. I love that a lot.

Speaker 2:
[90:24] Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:
[90:25] We need that. All right, gentlemen. That's all for my lineup. That's all for my notes. That's all that I have for today. If anybody doesn't have anything else, we can shut this bad boy down. I think that's about it. Am I good?

Speaker 5:
[90:41] Yeah, you're all good. I love it. All right.

Speaker 1:
[90:45] Well, everybody, as always, have a fantastic weekend. We've got an amazing amount of travel coming up, per usual. I'm excited for a lot of things that we're doing. We've got PGA Frisco for the Barstool Classic. We've got a little Oklahoma golf. We've got some Long Island golf, a lot of fun stuff coming up that will keep everybody abreast on the situation. But thanks to Ryan Richen, editing this whole bad boy, per usual. Go check out the YouTube versions of these if you haven't already, or for the next one coming out, gear yourself up. Again, PGA Championship merchandise stored at barstoolsports.com. That Brian Bro's video is out. Otherwise, we'll be back next Tuesday. Hit it hard.

Speaker 4:
[91:24] Hit it hard.