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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[03:16] That is Planet Tell Exits by Radiohead, the 1995 album, but I still remember the exact moment I heard it, the bends. It's number 111. Fuck, we're at 111, dude. The final hundred are coming up out of 500 on The 500 with me, Dane Cook. I'm Josh Adam Meyers, you know that, the people that are listening. Tell your friends, dude. We're doing the relaunch at the final hundred. We want everybody to join in. I know 500 was scary. These are the hundred greatest albums in the history of mankind ever recorded off of The Rolling Stone Magazine list of 500 greatest albums. I don't know if we agree with everyone, but I agree with the album that we have today. But that's besides the point. Have you been watching the podcast, everybody? Because on YouTube, youtube.com/the500podcast, and you've subscribed to the Patreon. You can support Code Red, Emily Kagan, who books all the incredible guests. JT in some country that I don't even know. I think it's Ibiza or maybe Hawaii now. Fucking Alex, who does my scripts and does a production when we are in the Zoom world. And me, I'm on the road. Not this weekend, but next weekend, I will be with Big Jay Okerson because I'm helping him write on the Kevin Hart roast. So we're going to be up in Providence, Rhode Island. It's Big Jay headlining, but I'm going to hang out. Then I'm doing Netflix as a joke. Not this show, May 4th, me, Big Jay Okerson, Bill Burr, Nikki Glaser, Adam Ray, Brad Williams, Josh Wolf and Jelly Roll. Goddamn Comedy Jam at the Roxy. And we have some special guests coming. Can I say it? Should I say it? Should I say it like a Nick from The Strokes? Got some people from Queens of the Stone Age coming. Somebody from Rage Against the Machine coming. And possibly one of my favorite artists of all time. You've heard me talk about him. I just got back from Coachella. That's why I don't have the voice everybody. Moon Tower Comedy Festival as well. I'm exhausted. But May 4th at the Roxy, I think tickets dropped today. So go to Josh Adam meyers.com or go to punch up dot live backslash Josh Adam Meyers. Follow me at Josh Adam Meyers on all social and yeah, come to the shows. The weekend after that. Oh, yeah, I'm doing May 8th. The Greek theater with Jelly Roll, Andrew Schultz and Big Jay. A couple other comics. Then I will be April 23rd. I forgot about this. I'm at the Hook Theater in Atlantic City. It's a big show for me. Tickets are selling well. Let's pack this shit out. I need this fucking Friday. Plano, Texas, May 15th to the 16th. I'll be on Mic Drop Comedy. I'm going to be in Vegas. I don't know why that's not up there at the Jimmy Kimmel Comedy Club. June 12th to 13th, Chandler, Arizona at Mic Drop Mania and June 18th to the 20th. I'll be in the Sacramento Punchline in Sacramento on my Punch Up Live. I definitely have the date. I know it's in May for the Las Vegas show. This is one of my favorite clubs. Come out, Josh Adam meyers.com at Josh Adam Meyers. All right, let's get to the fucking little skadoodle about the record. Ladies and gentlemen, you know how much I love Radiohead. It's one of those bands that changed my life. And this is where it started. I still remember taking ketamine for the first time at UMBC, where my sister was going to school and this Russian kid. He said it was like weed. So I did it. But it's true. He did. And I was in a k-hole and he put this record on and I was like, fuck, yeah. I went out and bought it. And from that point on, I've been in cept with this band. If this record doesn't make you feel something or hasn't made you feel something you've never listened to before, which is shocking. I get it. You know, the world's a hard place. Sometimes you don't want to listen to something this dark. But I think it's apt for what we're all dealing with right now. And my guest today. Well, you don't say anything because I'm not introducing you. She's right there. But don't act like she's not, everybody. My guest today is comedian, actress and probably one of the most recognizable. Can I say the word? Recognizable breakout stars of the Vine era continues. Just to just to blow my mind of just how cool this girl is. Fearless, offbeat humor, Internet's one of the earliest Internet viral voices and my ex-girlfriend, Brittany Furlan. She she has her own. The podcast, you're not doing any more of a worse first, but I know it's backlogged. You can go listen to that movies, television. She's done everything. And if you really want to laugh, just go on her old YouTube and you can see some of the old clips. And I mean, really, really one of the funniest people that I know. And I mean that I'm not just saying that just she might be sitting right there. Great review. And most importantly, subscribe to the 500. Listen free on all platforms or anywhere you get your podcast. Follow me at Josh Adam Meyers on all social media. Follow the podcast at the 500 podcast. Email the podcast at 500podcasts at gmail.com. Follow the Facebook group run by Crazy Oven. And for all things five honey, go to the website, the 500podcast.com. Nothing left to say, guys. Here we go with number 111 out of 500 with the Bens by Radiohead.

Speaker 3:
[08:10] Dude, we've been through some shit.

Speaker 2:
[08:12] We have been.

Speaker 3:
[08:13] We went when I started dating Josh, my face looked like a jalapeno.

Speaker 2:
[08:17] Your what?

Speaker 3:
[08:18] My face used to look like a jalapeno. That's why I used to go yoink.

Speaker 2:
[08:21] I'll never forget. I'll never forget because, and I'll say how we met. Well, this was funny.

Speaker 3:
[08:25] Oh, God.

Speaker 2:
[08:26] So there was on this strip right here on somewhere in Sunset Boulevard, one of the most famous streets for rock and roll. We're right. Whiskey's right there. The Roxy May 4th, a goddamn comedy jam if you're in town. But we, they used to do the Sunset Music Festival where they would shut down Sunset Boulevard and everybody would have bands and then the comedy store tried to do something. And there was a show called LOL Palooza. And it was a bunch of musical comics. And because of the unknown theater, which was a huge thing in my career, where I met LMNOP., where I met Burr Porter. I met, no, I didn't meet you there. I did not meet you there. I'm telling you where I met you. I'll do this. I'm telling you.

Speaker 3:
[09:00] You tell the story.

Speaker 2:
[09:01] Yes, I'm the orator in the relationship. You're just like, I got a fucking flappy buzzy because my husband's dick is enormous.

Speaker 3:
[09:11] Excuse me, that was a joke.

Speaker 2:
[09:12] No, I killed it. It's a joke.

Speaker 3:
[09:14] It's a great joke, and it's not true, but they released it everywhere.

Speaker 2:
[09:19] Beautiful buzzy.

Speaker 3:
[09:20] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[09:20] You're welcome. Top zero one percent.

Speaker 3:
[09:22] It's nice, okay? Fuck you guys. Fuck you, Daily Mail.

Speaker 2:
[09:25] She didn't change her buzzy.

Speaker 3:
[09:26] No.

Speaker 2:
[09:26] She changed her face. You said it. What are you talking about? I'm just going with you. I did. I did. So so we did LLL. Palooza and I am a year and a month or two in the stand up. So I'm garbage. And because of the unknown theater and Chris Porter and Angelo and some other guy, Brandon Christie, who works like Robbie Williams and blah, blah, blah. But he he got us on the show. And you were there with another comic and I'm going up towards the end. And you thought I was probably more successful than I was. I think you said that to me later in our relationship.

Speaker 3:
[10:01] I just liked your style because you just like you looked like dirty. Like, I like people that look like you call me.

Speaker 2:
[10:06] Do you remember you called me? Bummy.

Speaker 3:
[10:10] I like people that look like unkempt shit and like dirty. Like, remember, I went on a date with a homeless guy by accident. I swear to fucking God when I used to work at jet rag, I swear to God, I worked at jet rag on. Do you remember when you were going to get so side? This is going to be tangent. Let's focus. OK, but I met you and I was like, that guy looks disgustingly dirty. I love it. He looks like he looks like he hasn't washed his nuts in four weeks. Let me meet him. Like I and what about me? Like when I like a guy, I go up to them. Didn't I?

Speaker 2:
[10:41] No, no, no. What you did was because then I was I wasn't DJing at the strip club yet. I was doing security on that Saturday because the show was on Friday and on MySpace, because that's how long ago it was. You sent me a message and you had that Jane Fonda picture with that.

Speaker 3:
[10:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:54] And and so then we decided to meet. And I'll never forget an RIP. Fuquon Johnson. But we were you came to meet me and I'm going to about to come. I'm going to give you the hugest compliment, too. So let me let me let me finish this is you. You you you came to meet me. I was in like Echo Park doing a show. Yeah, the show was already over, but you were on your way. And I'll never forget was two comments about coming is that you were walking up and Fuquon goes, Yo, you lucky because you were gorgeous. I mean, you were so hot. You still are. But like you were just so attractive. And then I think I don't know what we did, but eventually we go back to my place and we you. And this is the thing.

Speaker 3:
[11:35] And this was when you lived in up Beachwood Canyon with Byron and Maxine. Maxine.

Speaker 2:
[11:40] You're still killing the game. And Byron's killing the game.

Speaker 3:
[11:43] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[11:44] He was our first guest on this podcast because it was outcasted one night.

Speaker 3:
[11:46] I just ran into him. Yeah. And you lived with Maxine. I remember we went into your apartment and you had like a mattress on the floor in a bedroom or something.

Speaker 2:
[11:52] He was on a box spring. He was on a box spring. I did get it off the checklist.

Speaker 3:
[11:57] Barely off the floor. But I don't know. I don't think we hooked up the first night.

Speaker 2:
[12:01] We hooked up.

Speaker 3:
[12:02] Did we?

Speaker 2:
[12:02] Yes, we did. Oh, we did. Trust me. We did. We hooked up.

Speaker 3:
[12:06] Yeah, yeah. We didn't have sex. I consider hooking up sex.

Speaker 2:
[12:09] Sure. We did. But then we like.

Speaker 3:
[12:11] But then I feel like we just vibed as friends and like we just connected.

Speaker 2:
[12:15] You're you're very easy to get along with. Yeah, I'm very personable.

Speaker 3:
[12:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:19] And but this is what this is the moment. I'm going to give you a compliment. It's from living in LA. You date girls and they're like, watch this thing I did. And I remember you were like, because you were just on reality hell on E and you were like, watch this thing. Oh, boy, this is going to be garbage. And you were funny. Like you were really you stuck out. I remember you showed me that short film that you had done. I don't know. It was like a ghost hunting thing. And just you had this line. You're like, so have you guys do you talk to these young girls? And the camera's just like going by and he goes, have you guys started your period yet? And then it was like, you just have a thing. And like and that is why, you know, you know, you were destined. I always knew you were going to do something. So it was like, I remember seeing it and just being like, oh, yeah, this girl's going to be going to be something. And it was attractive. And then we moved in with each other within a week.

Speaker 3:
[13:10] Yeah. And we lived in a fucking shack, one bedroom, a one room apartment on Detroit Street with two dogs.

Speaker 2:
[13:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[13:19] And then we finally upgraded to South Plymouth after like that was.

Speaker 2:
[13:24] So we started dating in September that and then in February you found the place you just built like.

Speaker 3:
[13:30] And then I made our place like so cute. Like people thought we were bawling. Remember, I would like get like the best furniture and I would like get the best deals and I made the place fucking gorgeous.

Speaker 2:
[13:40] I'm so good at interior design with my new apartment in New York. I immediately called you and I said, here's what I got. Because I got those two chairs from that woman, Michelle, that I was staying with and when I moved in and I would never buy a coral, two coral chairs.

Speaker 3:
[13:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:53] And I had the painting of Miles Davis that I had commissioned and had a little bit of coral in it and you were just like this, this, this. The bedroom, paint the wall. The thing, get this, get a black thing.

Speaker 3:
[14:04] And then you're like, I don't want that rug. I'm like, you need the rug. All right. Make some sacrifices.

Speaker 2:
[14:08] That rug in the living room got so nasty though. Well, like towards the end, a diarrhea or she threw up or something and my cleaning lady was like, we got to get rid of it. But the one in the bedroom, the black and white checkered one, it's dope. And I was dating this other girl, she was young. She was like 22, I was 42. I do all right.

Speaker 3:
[14:26] All right, you might want to cut that out.

Speaker 2:
[14:27] I don't mind.

Speaker 3:
[14:29] Still got it.

Speaker 2:
[14:30] I won't date that young anymore. That's like now that's 46. I'm like, I'm like, nah. But I like being single. I love my life, man. I love being selfish.

Speaker 3:
[14:38] Unless you find someone that's like perfect for you.

Speaker 2:
[14:41] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[14:41] It is what it is, right?

Speaker 2:
[14:42] You know, now you're with fucking Tommy Lee. What have I hooked up with?

Speaker 3:
[14:46] I've been with Thomas for 10 years now. It's just weird. Okay, so we basically, we lived together for two years. You know, that whole thing was and do people know about Angela on the podcast?

Speaker 2:
[14:55] No, y'all do it. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[14:56] Of course they do.

Speaker 2:
[14:57] I mean, I try to talk about Angela as much as I can. You know, and I want to get, we'll get, I have questions about that later.

Speaker 3:
[15:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:03] But the, you know, because we got into this and this is what I'm going to say is right before we move into each other. I tell this story sometimes is about we got this huge fight because you, you know, it's weird. Like, I now know what I want in a relationship. And at the time, you had like two friends, one lived in Vegas.

Speaker 3:
[15:20] I still have like no friends. I don't trust anybody.

Speaker 2:
[15:22] I know, but you're so-

Speaker 3:
[15:23] People are shady, watch out.

Speaker 2:
[15:25] Everybody loves you.

Speaker 3:
[15:25] I know. I know a lot of people, but I don't hang out.

Speaker 2:
[15:28] Exactly. But it's like, and dude, I have three friends.

Speaker 3:
[15:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:31] I lost, I lost Sickler. We don't talk anymore. We'll talk about it later. I talk about it on the bestselling podcast. I vaped while he was in the hospital.

Speaker 3:
[15:38] You did?

Speaker 2:
[15:39] I didn't think about it.

Speaker 3:
[15:40] You vaped on his injuries? What the fuck's wrong with you? Didn't he almost die? He was having surgery.

Speaker 2:
[15:46] And we cried on the phone every day. And you vaped on him? I literally got off the plane and ran to him. And I just was sitting there and he seemed fine. And then I just was like, I didn't think about it. Dude, I vaped everywhere. I vaped in the Vatican.

Speaker 3:
[15:59] You've like vaped on people's children. You like vaped on a baby. I get out of here.

Speaker 1:
[16:03] Dude, I might have to un-friend you.

Speaker 3:
[16:05] You just start vaping on me while I'm here. Just the first thing they breathe in. I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[16:10] But yeah, so you should always have three people to call. The main guy, the second guy.

Speaker 3:
[16:14] And then the guy that's tired of hearing about it. Isn't that like a Mark Maron joke? Yeah, it was a brilliant joke.

Speaker 2:
[16:19] But the moral of the story is, What are we talking about?

Speaker 3:
[16:22] You said we got in a fight.

Speaker 2:
[16:24] We got in this huge fight because you wanted you. It was like we hung out for like four nights in a row. I got to go to an open mic in the valley.

Speaker 3:
[16:30] And you were like, you were hitting so many open mics.

Speaker 2:
[16:33] But I had to.

Speaker 3:
[16:33] It's my job.

Speaker 2:
[16:35] And you just wanted my time. And I was beautiful. But it was like, Brittany, we've been hanging out.

Speaker 3:
[16:39] You were like, I really got to do Paul's cheesesteak shack. Listen, there's four people there. I'm going to crush it. I was like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2:
[16:47] You're like, can I come? And I'm like, Brittany, please, let me just hang out with Ange. You're like, you're cheating on me. I'm like, I'm going to die.

Speaker 3:
[16:52] And then remember when I would come and I'd do the open mics.

Speaker 2:
[16:54] Oh, you'd be way better than me and kill everybody. Yeah. Oh, we'll talk about that later.

Speaker 3:
[16:58] And Gerard Carmack will be like, you need to keep doing this.

Speaker 2:
[17:01] Tommy, the booker of the conference, ran up when you fucking. Yeah, you got a thing.

Speaker 3:
[17:06] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] You got a thing. And you're hot.

Speaker 3:
[17:07] I love it. And I've been doing it again, which is fine.

Speaker 2:
[17:09] Which you should. Yeah, you're very talented. Now, that being said, OK, I remember you were like, if you fucking leave, we will be done. And I was like, I was like, all right. Well, I'm going. And I saw it in my apartment still. So I was like, you know, you're like, well, fuck yeah. And you scream that and you close the door. And then you started, you started calling or texting me. Like, I'm, I'm out right now with Emil Hersh and he says, you're too old to make it. I'm like, I'm 30. Speed racer, speed racer. Alpha dog says, I'm too old.

Speaker 3:
[17:37] Oh, my God. I remember that. What's up, Emil? I'm fucking dead. I was.

Speaker 2:
[17:46] You are.

Speaker 3:
[17:47] It was with him. And I think it was me and Emil Hersh and like Shiloh Fernandez. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[17:51] Back in the day. I think he said it like I knew the fuck that was. I know Emil. He's speed racer. The other guy.

Speaker 3:
[17:59] But how shitty are girls? I was so young and immature. I was like, I'll make him jealous. He'll see what my other options are. Well, I'm going to go out with this guy. Like, you know what I mean? It's so shitty how women do that.

Speaker 2:
[18:09] We were so tight.

Speaker 3:
[18:09] I would never do that.

Speaker 2:
[18:10] We were so tight. We loved each other so much.

Speaker 3:
[18:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:12] When you were like, fuck you, fuck you. And Angela was like, dude, like, you know, she's great. But, dude, you can't you got to stand up. And I go, you're right. And in that moment, I was like, I got to make a choice. Do I move in with this girl or do I keep the apartment? I had a good I was only paying $500 a month.

Speaker 3:
[18:25] Yeah, I know. And you had a hookup.

Speaker 2:
[18:28] I did. And so and so what had happened was I turned my phone off. And then the next day I go to work and I had like 40 messages. And it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But it was so funny. It was like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Then it was like, I love you. Please come home.

Speaker 3:
[18:41] And I go so bipolar.

Speaker 2:
[18:44] I go, I go. I think I got it. Then I go, all right. Now I can come up with my stipulation. I remember sitting on the couch and I say, listen, I was like, I get it. I love you. I know you want time. But I have to do stand up. I know. I know. I know. I just I just want to be with you. I'm like, I want to be with you, too. But here's the deal. I'm going to move in with you. But we got one rule. You're like, what's that? And I'm like, Angela and I get to have sleepovers.

Speaker 3:
[19:02] Oh, yes. And I loved it. And then you and Angela would have sleepovers. And then you would pass out on opiates at 10 p.m. And then me and Angela would hang out all night and we'd go on YouTube and we'd sit there and we'd just roast everybody. It was so fun.

Speaker 2:
[19:15] And I think and I mean, if maybe I'm right or wrong, because I loved that.

Speaker 3:
[19:20] Me and Angelo got super close. And I wanted him to stay over all the time. And he slept on the green couch with Maggie Pooz and Wicky.

Speaker 2:
[19:27] He loved he loved Maggie.

Speaker 3:
[19:28] And Maggie Pooz and Wicky.

Speaker 2:
[19:29] Maggie Pooz was such a bitch.

Speaker 3:
[19:31] Maggie Pooz hated everybody.

Speaker 2:
[19:32] Wicky was the shit.

Speaker 3:
[19:32] But she loved Ang.

Speaker 2:
[19:34] Yeah, I remember when we broke up and I was like, all right, you can leave. But can I have Wicky for like five days? And you're like, yes.

Speaker 3:
[19:41] No, but you have to tell everybody why we broke up.

Speaker 2:
[19:43] We'll get to that. I got all questions about this. We got to talk about Radiohead.

Speaker 3:
[19:46] My husband's going to watch this and be like, he's great.

Speaker 2:
[19:49] I love you, Tommy.

Speaker 3:
[19:50] He loves you. He's I love him to death. And that's what's cool is that we're all friends. I love Heather Locklear. They're very close still. And Maite, remember Maite? He went out with Prince and her and Tommy were engaged for years.

Speaker 2:
[20:02] I didn't know that. No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3:
[20:03] Yeah, Maite Garcia, gorgeous. They're all still friends. I'm cool with all of them. They're all very cool.

Speaker 2:
[20:07] Well, I'll say this.

Speaker 3:
[20:08] So we're all friends.

Speaker 2:
[20:08] Yeah. And you know how much I root for you.

Speaker 3:
[20:11] I love that. And I root for you too.

Speaker 2:
[20:12] Oh, dude. And the same with Tessa. I root for everybody I've ever. Only two girls I love.

Speaker 3:
[20:17] This is the other girl Josh went out with who has literally knockers bigger the size of my head.

Speaker 2:
[20:21] She says as one's about to vomit out of her fucking.

Speaker 3:
[20:24] Okay, listen, I'm trying to get your views. Big boob bitches.

Speaker 2:
[20:29] No, I don't like fat ass. I like Bruce Lee titties.

Speaker 3:
[20:32] She literally her boobs are the biggest boobs I think I've ever seen. What's her full name?

Speaker 2:
[20:37] Tessa Fowler.

Speaker 3:
[20:38] Dude, look her up.

Speaker 2:
[20:39] Yeah, you got to tell you, Tessa Fowler XXX.

Speaker 3:
[20:43] Knockers. Award winning boobs. Bro, when you told me you were dating her and I was like, I just want to. I'm curious. Let me just check. I was like, Oh my God. Like the one breast is probably like as big as my skull.

Speaker 2:
[20:54] It was she was so much fun. Oh, yeah. And the real she never takes a bra. She keeps. She's like, I'm not letting him sag. Like I sleep in a bra.

Speaker 3:
[21:01] She has to sports bras.

Speaker 2:
[21:03] She has things she would put it next when she slept that would like divide her boobs. But really, she was she was lotioning them. I mean, she was making at one point because I just when we broke up, we always kept in touch and she was making when she started only fans. I mean, she put up this post like, hey, you know, I know every other girl is doing it after the banter, but I might start. You know, she started and just killed. I mean, she's probably low key a millionaire at least. And she quit.

Speaker 3:
[21:26] Well, that's yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:27] But but anyway, she kept it. Oh, yes.

Speaker 3:
[21:30] Subscribed to mine, too, guys. Thanks.

Speaker 2:
[21:32] Super hot. Look at it. But but what I loved about and we'll get to it to more in detail, but it was like another compliment is and I think me being around and accelerated me getting funny. And I think you fed off of that, too. It's because we the three of us would just say Brittany stays up until five, six in the morning, shaving the dogs, probably the witching hour.

Speaker 3:
[22:00] And then you sleep until four or five p.m. I get up at 11 now.

Speaker 2:
[22:03] You wear those raggedy clothes.

Speaker 3:
[22:05] I do. I wear I sleep in like the most ripped up disgusting bed shirt. When I first started dating Tommy, he was like, because he wanted me to sleep naked every night, right? And I would show up to bed in this like ragged fucking Cure t-shirt from like 1992 and have like holes in it, huh?

Speaker 2:
[22:22] I just bought a vintage one.

Speaker 3:
[22:23] Yeah. And he'd be like, what the fuck is that? That's not hot at all. You know what I mean? Like it was horrible.

Speaker 2:
[22:29] And I would stay hot at the beginning and then it's like, I gotcha. Get ready.

Speaker 3:
[22:34] Hey, kid, does your weenie work or not? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:36] You start cleaning your shirt before a blow job. All right, you ready to do this?

Speaker 3:
[22:41] You don't think I looked good without makeup on?

Speaker 2:
[22:43] You always look beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[22:44] I'm dead. I'm going to kill myself. Anyway, Radiohead, The Benz, where I used to slip my wrist in my room to this. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[22:49] Well, you've always like musically. So depressing. No, Radiohead to me, I don't find them depressing. Like we've done on the podcast, we've done.

Speaker 3:
[22:58] Karma Police, Pablo Honey.

Speaker 2:
[23:00] No, that's not the album. The album's called OK Computer.

Speaker 3:
[23:03] OK Computer.

Speaker 2:
[23:04] Yeah, we did OK Computer a few months, maybe less than a year ago. We've done. I think we did Amnesiac. We've done. We haven't done Kid A yet. That's their number. Highest ranked record.

Speaker 3:
[23:14] Is it?

Speaker 2:
[23:15] Yeah. Oh, yeah. We've done in Rainbows.

Speaker 3:
[23:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:19] And and so now we're at the record. Like I said, well, it's not I didn't make a list. I mean, I would have put OK Computer higher, but I get Kid A. It's like that's the changing record because like King of Limbs. I remember when that came out, I was on Opiates, the Strip Club, and I remember I sat in the bathtub just for like days listening to it. We'll get to that later. But I remember because I've talked about this band, you know, and when the guests I've had on, whether it was Swartzen or Alec Berg, the writer for Family Guy, it's this is an important band for me. This was a life changing band. I remember when this record came out because I well, you're younger than me. So do you remember when Creep came out? Do you remember?

Speaker 3:
[24:02] Of course I fucking do. I was probably like. Twelve or thirteen.

Speaker 2:
[24:09] No, because I was probably thirteen, fourteen.

Speaker 3:
[24:11] So then I was like nine.

Speaker 2:
[24:13] How old?

Speaker 3:
[24:14] I'm about I'm going to I'm thirty nine.

Speaker 2:
[24:16] You're thirty nine.

Speaker 3:
[24:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[24:17] You're going for the fortieth. You know something big?

Speaker 3:
[24:19] I'm going to kill myself, jump off the roof of this building.

Speaker 2:
[24:22] It rules getting older.

Speaker 3:
[24:23] Slip my wrist to the bends.

Speaker 2:
[24:24] You look so great. So know that.

Speaker 3:
[24:25] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[24:26] Peptides. Yeah, peptides. I'm forty six.

Speaker 3:
[24:29] I don't take peptides, but I and I but I fast.

Speaker 2:
[24:32] NAD plus.

Speaker 3:
[24:33] I don't take that. It makes me sick. Oh, I've tried. You know how I am. I'm so sensitive. The only thing I take is glutathione and I take it's like L creatine, not creatine, but it's like anyway, it's like a thing that helps. I just carbs. I fast. I only eat one meal a day. So I don't eat anything.

Speaker 2:
[24:49] You did that for a long time.

Speaker 3:
[24:50] For a long time.

Speaker 2:
[24:51] I mean, I've been doing it since. I mean, it's like a shitty turkey with salsa.

Speaker 3:
[24:54] I've been doing fasting since you've known me. I mean, look how skinny when you met me.

Speaker 2:
[24:58] I don't think you did it on purpose.

Speaker 3:
[24:59] Not on purpose, I was just anorexic.

Speaker 2:
[25:01] No, you know your word. We didn't have money. Can I talk about one thing? Can I talk about one thing?

Speaker 3:
[25:06] You were so broke.

Speaker 2:
[25:07] Can I talk about one thing?

Speaker 3:
[25:07] Me stealing shit?

Speaker 2:
[25:08] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[25:08] Oh, it was a club, so.

Speaker 2:
[25:10] But no, but dude.

Speaker 3:
[25:11] But I had to because we were poor.

Speaker 2:
[25:12] You were surviving and you because you what happened was we found a Tiffany locket at the place over by Umami Burke and you were like, I'm going to fucking sell this. I'm going to sell this for fucking 20 bucks.

Speaker 3:
[25:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:23] You bought it, sold it on eBay and then.

Speaker 3:
[25:25] And I made like three hundred forty.

Speaker 2:
[25:27] Yeah, a lot, a lot of money on it. And then, you know, because we were broke.

Speaker 3:
[25:31] We were so broke. And Josh worked at a strip club as a DJ and I would and I would do random acting jobs that I would get. Like, you know, it wasn't consistent, but I was here and there. And then I would go with him to stand up at night sometimes and then fucking we were broke. And so I was like, I'm going to go. I would became a reseller before it was like popular. And I would like go to Goodwill.

Speaker 2:
[25:53] You're always selling your clothes, always selling furniture, furniture, upcycling, you find something on the street. And I'm telling you, I was a hustler. You were you were you were a survivalist.

Speaker 3:
[26:02] Grade A hustler. And I would never ask my parents for shit. And my dad sold me out. Shout out to Ron. Ron hooked me up. Ron hooked us up a few times. But then but then it was so funny because I remember I'd come to you for like rent or something. You'd be like, oh, I'm short this month. And then I'd find you in the bathtub with like an empty pill bottle.

Speaker 2:
[26:21] And I was like, no, I didn't know you never know. I hid it very well.

Speaker 3:
[26:25] I would find the pill bottle.

Speaker 2:
[26:27] You found everything.

Speaker 3:
[26:27] I found fucking everything, everything. I was like, and you know, it's crazy. People say like Sherlock Holmes. I am sure I will figure out everything.

Speaker 2:
[26:36] That's one thing about me involved in where that dick would go or what goes in that dick or where that dick is at.

Speaker 3:
[26:41] Yeah, I find it. I find everything. And you were I mean, first of all, you worked at a fucking strip club with like hot ass strippers.

Speaker 2:
[26:49] So what are you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[26:50] Some of them are hot.

Speaker 2:
[26:51] No, I had ISIS.

Speaker 3:
[26:53] Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[26:53] ISIS, I remember.

Speaker 3:
[26:55] Anyway, so we lasted two and a half years. And I actually here's the first. Here's the crazy thing, Josh. Every boyfriend that I had before you, I never looked through.

Speaker 2:
[27:06] Right.

Speaker 3:
[27:06] Who? Warren.

Speaker 2:
[27:07] The guy.

Speaker 3:
[27:08] Brooke Schwartz.

Speaker 2:
[27:09] No, there's another guy. So the W. Will. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about.

Speaker 3:
[27:14] OK, Will. I will. The guy dated in high school who's in CDC, the fucking hardcore band.

Speaker 2:
[27:20] Oh, I think the CDC is like a Christian.

Speaker 3:
[27:23] No, no, no, no, no, no. He's in that cool dude's chilling band. I dated him in high school. I dated this guy, Ian. Anyway, never looked through a phone, never was like, let me investigate anybody. And then the only reason was because one night you came home and you were acting fucking weird. And I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 2:
[27:43] I don't remember what it was, but I found those messages from that girl. I almost did. I almost did. Dude, you know, well, it's that was the water under the bridge. No, that was the first long term relationship.

Speaker 3:
[27:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:55] But that's the first time I ever looked at anything because of the painkillers. And then also the fighting because, you know, we would have some of these blowout arguments because that's what you get from your mom.

Speaker 3:
[28:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:06] Your dad is like the level head. So I was like dealing with like an angel versus like, come on, I'm down with this sickness. Where is my motherfucking effect, sir?

Speaker 3:
[28:17] Shout out to a fact, sir.

Speaker 2:
[28:19] Shout out to a fact, sir.

Speaker 3:
[28:19] I still take it.

Speaker 2:
[28:21] Good. Good for you.

Speaker 3:
[28:21] Gives me mellow.

Speaker 2:
[28:22] God forbid. God forbid you didn't. Moral of the story is I didn't. But I met when I was at a club and this one dancer came in and she was flirting with me. And but she was being very, you know, to me, we're talking. And I was like, well, I'm a comic. She said, oh, I like comedy. She said, I'll come to her show. And so I was like, well, here's my number. And then she's like, we should hang out. And we were maybe just having like a rough period. We hadn't fucked in a while.

Speaker 3:
[28:42] Yeah, because you were taking pills that made your dick not work.

Speaker 2:
[28:46] Well, and then once I lost my erection once, you start thinking about it. And then you're like worried. And it was like, dude, if I had the money to get Viagra, which I take all the time now because I'm just because sex is about being present. It's about being present.

Speaker 3:
[28:57] I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[28:58] What?

Speaker 3:
[28:58] You take Viagra?

Speaker 2:
[29:00] So I don't do I've once you lose your erection once you're going to stick with you forever.

Speaker 3:
[29:05] You think about that's happened to you since us.

Speaker 2:
[29:07] Oh, my God.

Speaker 3:
[29:08] That one time. But it was because you were on drugs.

Speaker 2:
[29:11] But it's still it's in your head.

Speaker 3:
[29:13] But you were it was because of the opiates. It would not happen.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] I think it was a cornucopia of a battery of things. But the moral of the story was, I remember me and her kind of like the girl we had set something up. And then I go, you know what I said, Dave, I can't do this. I was like, if somebody cheated on me, somebody cheated on me before. I would hate that. No, because you I didn't know you had a girlfriend. I go, well, I deserve that. And then I then I kept the photo.

Speaker 3:
[29:34] I don't remember the messages. Yeah. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[29:37] I deleted all that. But she had sent me, she was hot. She sent me a photo of her ass and like her back puss. And I was like, and so I showed Byron and Byron goes, Yo, man, if I was you, I would delete that shit, dude. And I go, no, I'm going to put it. I'm going to put it deep into my hotmail. I was already on Gmail and I will never forget. It was a Saturday night. We were watching. You made me dinner. We were watching Girl Interrupted to give you a fucking my life. Crazy hot, hot, golly man, man, son, be my. Just you looking at my phone.

Speaker 3:
[30:12] My autobiography girl.

Speaker 2:
[30:14] Fuck off, dude. That movie. And I woke up and you're holding the phone like, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[30:19] Did I punch you?

Speaker 2:
[30:20] Oh, God, yeah. You'd be even if you'd be when you laugh, bitch.

Speaker 3:
[30:24] I do. I fucking hit you, didn't I? Did I hate you?

Speaker 2:
[30:30] I wasn't abused.

Speaker 3:
[30:30] OK, OK. It wasn't.

Speaker 2:
[30:31] It's besides the point.

Speaker 3:
[30:33] Look, I was like, maybe I smacked you. I don't really remember.

Speaker 2:
[30:36] And then but we'll get to all the other stuff because I got stuff. We got to talk.

Speaker 3:
[30:40] This is so crazy. This is I'm crying. I'm like laughing so hard.

Speaker 2:
[30:43] I'm getting so much. I love the listeners.

Speaker 3:
[30:44] It's so funny because it's like so long ago, but it like feels like yesterday, too. Like now I'm remembering everything and I'm sitting here and I'm going, My God, I just remember like, you know, I mean, but it was fun, too. It was a fun time. Like we were struggling. But I will tell you something like I was never unhappy. We were having fun. Like we were going to these open mics at night, which was so fun to like watch all you guys. And then I started.

Speaker 2:
[31:09] That's what made me get into stand up because you guys, we would have had a little bit of bread to be able to like go up to more dinners. We would have gone to concerts together.

Speaker 3:
[31:18] We couldn't live.

Speaker 2:
[31:19] We would have done anything. And we were talking about earlier. She got so desperate that Brittany, because she's such a beautiful girl and she's so disarming, would take that you got the thing. You would go to a $7000 jacket from Saks. And then we sold it. You sold it online. And it was just like it was incredible. And then you would like order lunch meat from Ralphs and be like, thank you so much. Put it right in the purse. And be like nibble on some hugging turkey.

Speaker 3:
[31:44] And that's the horrible thing is like I never stole for like we were. Yeah, it's not like it wasn't like I was stealing because I was like, this is great. But we did have to survive. But then we did need a new wardrobe.

Speaker 2:
[31:52] You'd be like, wait, wait, wait. Let me do the joke. I do it on stage. I go, man, when I was like, this always worries me, honey. I don't want you to get in trouble. If you feel the heat, let it go. Drop the stuff. But always remember, I'm a 30 30. OK, always 30 30 smetium. I'm a smetium.

Speaker 3:
[32:09] You did. You were you would hit me up whenever you had like you're like, I'm getting headshots down. I really could use a new and I would go get you shit. Listen, I hate to admit it, but I stole probably thousands. I mean, hundreds, at least a hundred, at least a hundred thousand dollars worth of merchandise. Not good for me. I feel horrible. I only stole from big places. And, you know, I do feel shade, by the way.

Speaker 2:
[32:32] Dude, there's it's it's survival.

Speaker 3:
[32:34] It was like we were we had nothing. And I was like auditioning, living in Hancock Park or Koreatown. We got lucky that apartment was like on the brim of Koreatown. But it was nice.

Speaker 2:
[32:43] It was like a block away from squiggly line.

Speaker 3:
[32:45] Yeah, but it was nice. And it was like we but it was cheap, too. So it was like we figured it out. But it was like, man, at the time, probably what? I don't know. Twelve hundred, twelve hundred a month. And we could barely do it and eat every month. And we were trying to pay your health insurance, my health insurance. Remember your car insurance? What happened was the last. Oh, this is horrible.

Speaker 2:
[33:06] Let's not talk about that. Anyway, because we're going to talk about the accident. We're talking about age.

Speaker 3:
[33:11] But yeah, it was really bad, you guys. I mean, I'm not going to lie. We were, you know, it was just really, really bad. And I never and I'm not the kind of person that ever likes to ask anybody for help. Like, my dad would help us here and there. But like, I didn't want to go.

Speaker 2:
[33:23] I would ask my cousin.

Speaker 3:
[33:25] I know that Jeep, the Jurassic Park Jeep that looked like it had been picked up and thrown by a dinosaur and insert a photo. Anyway, it literally did. Da, da, da, da, da. All it needed was the Jurassic Park logo on it. I'm fucking dead, dude. That thing was so loud. Remember, the neighbors would get so pissed.

Speaker 2:
[33:44] He put sugar in the gas tank.

Speaker 3:
[33:46] Oh, yeah. They fucking hated you, dude.

Speaker 2:
[33:48] A gay dude that lived upstairs.

Speaker 3:
[33:49] He was like, fuck this guy and his loud ass car.

Speaker 2:
[33:51] He hated you. That was that car would have, you know, if it wasn't for the accident, because when the accident happened in the weirdest way for the car, it was done after that guy put the sugar in the gas tank because my muffler was broken and your dad was like, I'll buy you a new muffler. I was like, I don't need it. We need food.

Speaker 3:
[34:06] We need food. So you want to say what happened? So basically we get to the end of our relationship. You were on drugs. I was depressed.

Speaker 2:
[34:13] I think I was sober at the time when we were breaking up.

Speaker 3:
[34:15] No.

Speaker 2:
[34:16] But after that cheating thing, we were like together, but I think you were already kind of out of the world.

Speaker 3:
[34:21] I was like, I got to get out of here. And then I got cast in a music video.

Speaker 2:
[34:25] Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3:
[34:26] That's what it was.

Speaker 2:
[34:26] I just remember you started watching this guy's clips and then he started coming around.

Speaker 3:
[34:29] That's how I met him. I got cast in a music video for, I don't know what it was, some fucking band.

Speaker 2:
[34:36] Loke Duke, 45, it was always some shitty thing.

Speaker 3:
[34:40] Some.

Speaker 2:
[34:41] I thought he was fucking Stanley Kubrick.

Speaker 3:
[34:42] It was some emo fucking band, hipster band. And he was like, he hit me up on Instagram. No, it wasn't Instagram yet. It was probably MySpace.

Speaker 2:
[34:50] No, Instagram was just at the beginning.

Speaker 3:
[34:51] Maybe just the beginning of Instagram. And he hit me up and he's like, hey, I want you to be in this music video. I want you to be a star of it, whatever. So I go do this music video. And I just like, like we like hit it off.

Speaker 2:
[35:01] I thought you guys were. I thought he was gay. And so you go, I was like, go hang out with him. I'm going to fucking. I'm going to go.

Speaker 3:
[35:06] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[35:06] Go hang out with my buddies.

Speaker 3:
[35:07] Actually, you did not mind me hanging out with him because you're like, oh, he's gay.

Speaker 2:
[35:11] I hugged him. I hugged him at one point. You did? Because I was like, I thought he was gay.

Speaker 3:
[35:16] He was just a hipster.

Speaker 2:
[35:18] No, dude, he was gay. He's gay. I don't give a fuck. And then you left and then you left. And then I took Wiggy for a few days.

Speaker 3:
[35:25] And and and look, I say this, we lived. We moved into the Hollywood Tower, which is across from the old one on one cafe. Did they bring one on one back? One on one cafe.

Speaker 2:
[35:34] It's it's a different name, but it's still a cafe.

Speaker 3:
[35:38] Anyway, so I moved. I literally just moved out of our apartment. Right.

Speaker 2:
[35:42] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[35:42] Didn't I fast? And then I moved in with him in Hollywood Tower. And I remember you. This broke my heart. It was like the first night I was with Randall and you called and you left me a voicemail. And I wish I would have saved it. But I had like a Blackberry at the time. I didn't even have an iPhone, but it was like, Brittany, I love you so much. Come back.

Speaker 2:
[36:05] I need somebody to do my laundry.

Speaker 3:
[36:08] Probably. Because what did you say about me? I'm so motherly. Well, like I can turn. I turn into like people's mom.

Speaker 2:
[36:15] What's funny is.

Speaker 3:
[36:17] You didn't leave me this crazy sad voicemail.

Speaker 2:
[36:20] I mean, dude, it was like we had a home together.

Speaker 3:
[36:22] And I remember Randall, I played it.

Speaker 2:
[36:24] Oh, fuck off.

Speaker 3:
[36:25] And he was next to me and he was like, that's fucking gnarly, man.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] I mean, hold on. Let me go put on this fucking weird shawl.

Speaker 3:
[36:33] Don't believe that out.

Speaker 2:
[36:35] No, he's not. He's a dildo. Dude, he's a dildo. He's a dildo. He's a dildo.

Speaker 3:
[36:39] Because he did to know that I'm friends with everybody.

Speaker 2:
[36:42] To hug me and come around me, knowing that and whatever we might have told him. And that's not a big deal. But it's like I would never in a million fucking years do that. So you're a dildo. I'm glad your career went fucking nowhere. And I'm glad I'm fucking killing it ten times more than you. I love this girl. I'm glad to be home. He's not. Fuck him. It's fine. My podcast, my podcast. He ain't on it. Radiohead.

Speaker 3:
[37:07] Okay, so the bends.

Speaker 2:
[37:08] The bend.

Speaker 3:
[37:09] So this is so.

Speaker 2:
[37:11] But I'm going to say this. I'm going to put a period on all that.

Speaker 3:
[37:12] Okay, put a period on that.

Speaker 2:
[37:13] We were done.

Speaker 3:
[37:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:14] It could have been handled differently. And I think you have me still. It was hard to pull the band-aid off, of course.

Speaker 3:
[37:20] Always be your friend.

Speaker 2:
[37:21] And it took time. We didn't see each other a long time. And then we ran into each other at the... I'll never forget when I got new faces. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We ran into each other. So I got new faces, which was such a big deal. And I was like, yeah, that'll show with Neil Hirsch.

Speaker 3:
[37:37] Both of us got new faces.

Speaker 2:
[37:39] You didn't even get my joke. I was like, I got new faces. That'll show with Neil Hirsch. Told you I'd make it. And we got to get to Radiohead. I'm so sorry, everybody.

Speaker 3:
[37:48] This is going to be a three hour long podcast.

Speaker 2:
[37:50] No, we'll do an hour and a half. As soon as we're done with this, we go into the album. I got all the facts. I'm having a blast.

Speaker 3:
[37:55] I am too.

Speaker 2:
[37:56] Guys, this one's for me. You listen, I got to do all these podcasts with people that I like. When I get to have somebody that knows me in and out, and I know her in and out, it makes me so comfortable. When the second you said yes, I was glowingly excited because I was like, I get to hang out with my friend. I don't ever get to see you, and it's great. So, like I said, I got new faces, and I remember, yeah, that'll show Brittany. We hadn't been talking, and then I go, what's this new app, Vine? And it's like, I've got like 10 million followers. You motherfucker!

Speaker 3:
[38:28] I'm like in variety every day. They're like, she's gonna be the next big thing, and then nothing happened.

Speaker 2:
[38:32] Well, no, everything happened. You killed it, dude.

Speaker 3:
[38:35] I did at the time.

Speaker 2:
[38:36] And you still continue to, and then we, I didn't see you for a while, and then when the jam was taking off, I remember we were getting ready to go on tour and really do a bunch of stuff, and I went to go to the post office right next to Iruan, and your fucking big head ass with no calves walks out, gets in your Mercedes, and I'm like, oh fuck, I'm gonna get to see me. And then you literally, everybody's supposed to go that way, and you go, and we're like head to head, and you're like. And then we stopped, and we talked for like an hour, and you were already on the outs with Randall, like he was barely around, and then we, nothing, there was nothing sexual, it was just like, we were just, we might get lunch, and then we would, you helped me like make pants, cover my shorts, and then we just stayed friends, and that's great, and that's, I.

Speaker 3:
[39:24] I think that's healthy, it's like if you've loved someone, or you've been in a relationship with someone, and you have a friendship too, I think why not stay friends? I'm literally friends with all my exes except one.

Speaker 2:
[39:34] Will, you're not friends with Will.

Speaker 3:
[39:35] Oh no, I'm not friends with Will, but I'm also, yeah, okay, so two. But I'm friends with all the other ones.

Speaker 2:
[39:40] The other guy, oh, no, the other guy, no, the other guy can't.

Speaker 3:
[39:42] No. I'm not friends with him. But I'm friends with all the other ones, everyone that I can be friends with. I'm friends with, because I'm like, I believe in peace and happiness, and like, you know, like it's cool, like just be chill.

Speaker 2:
[39:54] Peace and love, peace and love.

Speaker 3:
[39:56] No, but you know, like I try to just be like, you know, it's you think about the time that you've had with this person. It's like it doesn't like think about the good stuff.

Speaker 2:
[40:04] It's like an album. It's like this record or it's like, OK, or like, or appetite restructuring. You sit with her so long and you might be like, Oh, God, I can't listen to Sweet Child of Mine ever again. But you still love it.

Speaker 3:
[40:14] You know, and that's the thing. And I just feel like I'm grateful for the people that I've been able to maintain friendships with, because I feel like you guys know sides of me that like not everybody knows, you know what I mean? You sleep until 11, now 11 a.m. Used to be 2 p.m. or 4 p.m. I know 4 p.m. or 5. Tommy's going to die when he sees this.

Speaker 2:
[40:34] It's so funny. She ended up doing she ended up doing the jam.

Speaker 3:
[40:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:40] And you really and you and you said the exact same thing that I was always hoping. I was like, dude, I really hope she wants to bring Tommy. She was like, I'll bring Tommy. I'm like, oh, thank God. And that was awesome. I mean, he's so talented. Tommy was such a cool guy. But I don't. And I remember where me and Tommy were talking for a second. And I would never be like whatever. But I remember I just went to my go, I go, did she still sleep till five p.m.? He goes, oh, my God, man.

Speaker 3:
[41:04] Yeah. And Tommy's doing great. I mean, I'm not obviously we're not going to talk about everything, but, you know, he's healthy.

Speaker 2:
[41:09] Good.

Speaker 3:
[41:09] And he looks great. Good. And he's taking care of himself. And like, you know, I do think it's really funny when I was thinking about all the guys that I've dated and I was thinking about you. And I'm like, every single guy that I've dated has been an addict. Every single one. I haven't dated one guy who hasn't been an addict.

Speaker 2:
[41:26] Really?

Speaker 3:
[41:26] I mean, that's crazy. Not even one guy.

Speaker 2:
[41:30] One guy was addicted to eating mattress pads.

Speaker 3:
[41:33] No, I mean, listen.

Speaker 2:
[41:35] You laugh at me.

Speaker 3:
[41:38] You were opiates. Another one was addicted to hookers. Another one was addicted to Kratom. Another one was addicted to alcohol. Like everybody has been an addict. And I was sitting there thinking that on the way here and I was driving and I was like, what's wrong with me that I feel like or is just everybody an addict?

Speaker 2:
[41:57] I think everybody's addicted to something. I do.

Speaker 3:
[41:59] Really?

Speaker 2:
[42:00] I do.

Speaker 3:
[42:01] That's interesting. You think we all have addictions in a way? I mean. Tommy's like, you're addicted to your phone. Sure, yeah. He's like, you're an addict.

Speaker 2:
[42:08] I mean, you are. I mean. Yeah. We're addicted to something.

Speaker 3:
[42:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:11] I'm trying to think what you used to, what I would have said you were addicted to. You and you.

Speaker 3:
[42:15] I've never been an addict though. Like I could do drugs and then just be like, all right, cool, and then never do them again.

Speaker 2:
[42:20] You're addicted to me for a moment.

Speaker 3:
[42:21] Oh, God, I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[42:23] Mine as well, face it, you're a mummy.

Speaker 3:
[42:26] I am addicted to love maybe. That's what I am.

Speaker 2:
[42:28] You are. You are. And that's why when you got with Tommy.

Speaker 3:
[42:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:33] I said, man, I think that's the coolest shit ever.

Speaker 3:
[42:36] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:36] Because I love fucking crew is such a big part of my life.

Speaker 3:
[42:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:39] And also it's cool to be asking my brothers with Tommy Lee. Dead. You know, but you know, in this day and age, I some older women too, who knows? Some of those roadie bitches, you know. I'm kidding.

Speaker 3:
[42:50] It's a joke.

Speaker 2:
[42:50] It's funny. They wrote a book called The Dirt, for Christ's sake. I mean, you know.

Speaker 3:
[42:56] No, Tommy has a great sense of humor.

Speaker 2:
[42:57] He's an awesome guy. And I was so happy when you got together. I even said, please invite me to the wedding. You're like, we're going to be small.

Speaker 3:
[43:03] I go, we didn't invite anyone.

Speaker 2:
[43:05] I know you didn't.

Speaker 3:
[43:06] We kept it really low key. I mean, and listen, like I know a lot of people judge me and I've been through a lot in the last year and a half. But I will say this. It's like, unless you live in someone's situation, like you don't know what you don't know what's going on. And I just I'll just say that, you know, but life is hard for everybody.

Speaker 2:
[43:25] And it's sometimes sometimes shit gets out there and sometimes shit doesn't.

Speaker 3:
[43:28] I'm just happy. My husband is healthy and happy. And I will say like, it's been so I'm so happy.

Speaker 2:
[43:34] Good.

Speaker 3:
[43:35] It's been so good.

Speaker 2:
[43:36] You know, I'm rooting for you. I just want you to know it's true. You are addicted to love. You want to be loved and you deserve it. You're a great person. You were always there for me when you were there for my dad, and I'll never forget that. I'll never how strong you were. It made me strong to get to on that flight.

Speaker 3:
[43:51] I know, because you couldn't even like get on the plane.

Speaker 2:
[43:54] I was like, I mean, I was devastated, but because it was so out of nowhere. My mom, I'm at the strip club DJing and it's like I ran outside. And then I called Jody on the way home and Jody was like, she was like, Josh, this is bad. But you might you might bring a suit. And I was, that's what I just got broke down. And you had the bag packed and you were this. And then, and then, yeah, just so because of that, it's like in all the other stuff, we could say this, this and this. But it was like, you were so great. You know, the funny thing is, I never even think about my dad anymore. That's the crazy thing.

Speaker 3:
[44:24] He was hard on you.

Speaker 2:
[44:25] Well, you know.

Speaker 3:
[44:26] He loved you, but he was hard on you. I remember meeting him and I was like, oh, he's like tough on you. Like your mom loved the shit out of you, but she has really bad anxiety. And she put that on you.

Speaker 2:
[44:34] She imprinted that. I mean, same with your mom.

Speaker 3:
[44:37] Same, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[44:37] But also, like, you know, I am able.

Speaker 3:
[44:40] But your dad was tough.

Speaker 2:
[44:42] Yeah, but and if that anybody.

Speaker 3:
[44:43] Like nothing was good enough. But I do think that if he saw how much you've done now.

Speaker 2:
[44:48] Oh, dude.

Speaker 3:
[44:48] He would be blown away.

Speaker 2:
[44:49] I always say this because he, I would rub my success in his face, but there wouldn't be no bigger fan of this shit. Because that's the reason I'm into music. Because of my dad. The reason I'm into movies because of my dad. Comedy, all that. But, you know, I mean, we've all, dude, it's, it's, I love that, I, dude, I don't know if my dad, I got a friend who's been so mothered and fathered by his fucking parents, I buy him everything and do this.

Speaker 3:
[45:15] I know.

Speaker 2:
[45:16] He has no drive.

Speaker 3:
[45:17] I'm so jealous of those people though. Like, what's it like to have like a normal loving family?

Speaker 2:
[45:20] No, but fuck that, dude. You and I have such a chip on my shoulder that that's why I'm the herpes of comedy. Because they don't want me. So you keep creating and you keep doing shit. And then they're just like, this guy won't go away.

Speaker 3:
[45:32] The herpes of comedy.

Speaker 2:
[45:33] And I'm flaring up right now, baby.

Speaker 3:
[45:34] But everyone knows you. Everyone in the scene knows you.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] I create, I make things.

Speaker 3:
[45:41] We all know Josh Adam Meyers, come on.

Speaker 2:
[45:42] And when I get roadblocks, I pivot and work on something else.

Speaker 3:
[45:45] You're the most driven person. I mean, like, you're the only person I've known that's like performed at the comedy store probably a hundred thousand times and you're not on the wall yet. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[45:54] It's interesting.

Speaker 3:
[45:55] It's interesting because it's like, I mean.

Speaker 2:
[45:58] I don't give a shit. I just point.

Speaker 3:
[45:59] I know you don't. It's like what Motley's not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2:
[46:03] I know that's not how crazy is that on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, too?

Speaker 3:
[46:06] You do. You and Dave Grohl.

Speaker 2:
[46:09] I vote. I've been voting for the last five years.

Speaker 3:
[46:11] Wow. Good for you. Well, fucking give Motley a vote because I'm like, dude, how are you guys not in there? And fucking who just got inducted? Mariah Carey.

Speaker 2:
[46:19] They'll get in. I was like, they don't get it. They don't get voted in. What they'll do is it'll definitely be an honorary award. I mean, Warren Zvon hadn't, you know, because always the ones that are like, you know, because it's run by that guy. I'm gonna his name, Jan Werner or whatever his name they got from Rolling Stone. Dude, the monkeys never got in. And they were like, they were so influential, you know? And that's the thing. And my buddy Morty, who helps me write the show sometimes, he would push for him. And Warren Zvon, and it's just kiss what? Dude, they didn't want to get kiss in. Dude, it's the cure. There's so many bands that have fought. Now you're always going to get those ones. You know, like Radiohead is going to be first ballot.

Speaker 3:
[46:56] And Motley won't fight for it, but they're Motley, they're Glam, like they started Glam Metal. Like, come on, like Glam Rock.

Speaker 2:
[47:04] No, Glam Metal, Glam Metal, yes. Glam Rock is obviously like, you can go back and back. But yeah, and I think that's, you know.

Speaker 3:
[47:12] But they were like the pioneers of it. I don't know, whatever. They set up so many other bands and, you know, who knows, maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. But isn't it kind of crazy? It's just kind of like, wow, it's kind of shocking.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] It'll happen.

Speaker 3:
[47:22] They're going on tour. Oh, by the way, this comes out tomorrow. Okay, so Tommy is re-releasing Tommy Land, The Ride, and he's putting a new song on it. Remember Tommy Land, The Ride, his album? He's putting a new, he has a new song coming out and that's going to be on there. So that's out today. So guys, if you love it, Tommy Land, The Ride.

Speaker 2:
[47:40] Can we play it? Can we play it at the end of the podcast?

Speaker 3:
[47:42] Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[47:43] We always try to play a band that's like Radiohead, but.

Speaker 3:
[47:46] Yeah, Tommy Land, The Ride is back out. It's re-released. They did it in Dolby Atmos. We have a Dolby Atmos studio at our house. So he fucking remastered the whole thing. He worked so hard on it. And yeah, it's out today.

Speaker 2:
[48:00] Go and get it, stream it, buy it, whatever you do.

Speaker 3:
[48:03] And okay, so let's talk about the Bends because. When did you get into Radiohead? Dude, I was so depressed in high school. I mean, you know this about me. I used to be like a cutter. I got like hospitalized. It was horrible. So I'd be like wanting to kill myself.

Speaker 2:
[48:16] That's the kind of girls I like.

Speaker 3:
[48:18] Yeah, he liked the fucking real fucked up ones. I was like so depressed because I had like no relationship with my mom. I was just raised with my dad and my brother and I was so sad all the time. And I would just like listen to, you know, Radiohead. I would listen to like, you know, I don't know, fucking Depeche Mode and like, you know, I just was like, I would just like be sad. And like, I remember listening to the like, baby's got the bend. And then like, it's like what else Just is on that album. You do it to yourself. You do, that's what really hurts. You know, I just remember like, I loved all Radiohead and I was obsessed with Tom York. And I just would sit there and I would literally listen to this music in my room in the dark to like, you know, there was no, we had no fucking internet. We had no, you know, Are you millennial? Yeah, millennial. We had nothing. So it was like, maybe dial up AOL, like, but that's it, like chat room, you know, but you didn't have anything to fucking really entertain yourself. There was no Instagram, no fucking Tik Tok, no nothing. I would just sit there, light fucking candles and fucking listen to Radiohead and cut myself and be so depressed. But like, it was weird because I used to do it.

Speaker 2:
[49:27] That what happened to your calves? You shaved them off?

Speaker 3:
[49:29] No, but that's where I would cut so that they wouldn't see it. No, but that's where I would cut so they wouldn't see it. I have all the scars on them now. But yeah, but it's like, it's like, and that was like my way of like releasing endorphins because it would like every time you bleed, you like release endorphins. Anyway, I was so depressed. It was a nightmare. And my dad ended up catching me. And then I got sent to a fucking foundation's behavior house in the city.

Speaker 2:
[49:53] And I remember like, okay, so this is where you're going to be staying.

Speaker 3:
[49:57] Dude, it was so, no, it was no, bro. It was like a center city, Philly.

Speaker 2:
[50:03] It was in the accent was even thicker. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[50:06] My roommate was like, I've been raped seven times. I was like, she's like, my parents are coming to pick me up today. And she would sit by the window and no one ever came. There was a guy like, dude, it was so horrible in there. And I remember I was crying the first night I was there and this fucking nurse comes in, she grabs me by my hair. And they were all tough and mean because they were used to dealing with really mentally ill people. I mean, the people there were eating their fucking faces and shit. They were fucking crazy. Listen, I'm crazy, but I'm like, I'm a normal girl crazy. I'm not fucking, dude, the people in there, it was like, oh, that's crazy. It was scary. You know what I mean? People didn't even know who they were. They didn't even think they were real, banging their heads against walls and shit. I'm not even kidding. It was scary. This fucking nurse drags me down the hallway because I was crying and she opens the door to this room and it says the quiet room and it's a fucking metal door with a little slit and she opens it up and it's fucking mattresses all against the walls and mattress on the floor and there's a girl in there and it smells like piss and she's like, if you don't shut up, this is where you're going. Dude, it was so horrible. Mental health system was so bad.

Speaker 2:
[51:16] I hate their address, I feel like staying there for a little bit. I think I need to work some shit out.

Speaker 3:
[51:20] It was really bad, dude. Anyway, so that's how I got into Radiohead, was because I just heard them on the radio. I do, I'm very emotional.

Speaker 2:
[51:30] You should always be listening to music and it will either be hard rock, but even the rock that you would listen to, it was always like the kills or something.

Speaker 3:
[51:41] The kills or the strokes or like.

Speaker 2:
[51:43] Cattle, cattle, black. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[51:45] Tilly in the wall.

Speaker 2:
[51:45] But I'll never forget, like one of the coolest things, I'll always say was one of the cutest things you ever did is we were listening to, I can't not hear the song and not see you sing it, which is a Nine Inch Nails song off of With Teeth.

Speaker 3:
[51:56] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:57] And it was like, you know, black and color as it's cold. And because we used to drive in that little fucking VW that I scratched.

Speaker 3:
[52:03] If you can't watch you believe it, bite the hand that feeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I've loved Nine Inch Nails, so that's why I would like listen to Nine Inch Nails. And I liked Marilyn Manson for years, too. Like I used to listen.

Speaker 2:
[52:14] I know I'm just going to say, I trust me.

Speaker 3:
[52:16] Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids only because my brother, remember, Greg used to be cool back in the day. My brother, he used to play electric guitar. Yeah. My brother was the one that got me into all that. My dad would take us to Oz Fest, you know, because my brother was. Yeah. My brother was like into that music and stuff anyway. So I was, you know, I was into that stuff, but I was depressed. So depressed. I had one friend, shout out to Nadine, who I'm still friends with. Remember Nadine? Nadine DiPosito.

Speaker 2:
[52:41] I thought your brother was going to fuck her that one Christmas.

Speaker 3:
[52:43] He loved her. He loved her.

Speaker 2:
[52:47] Remember when he was an astrologist?

Speaker 3:
[52:50] Okay. Gregory Furlantero. It's still up.

Speaker 2:
[52:53] Okay. So the moon is going to be in the fourth phase.

Speaker 3:
[52:58] Dude, my brother changed so much. It's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[53:01] He's a dad now.

Speaker 3:
[53:02] Here. He's a dad now. He's doing great.

Speaker 2:
[53:03] He's doing great.

Speaker 3:
[53:04] I'm proud of him. I'm proud of him. He's got two kids.

Speaker 2:
[53:06] I'm going to say, I want to talk. Let's go out to eat. No, no, no, it won't. I'm going to go out to eat. I got to show at 11.15 anyway. Also, at the Laugh Factory. Also, he's got, I got an early flight tomorrow. He's got to fucking edit this shit.

Speaker 3:
[53:20] Yeah. Mark's like, I'm going to kill myself. He's like, talk about you killing yourself. I'm going to kill myself while I watch this podcast.

Speaker 2:
[53:26] I mean, this is way more comfortable than Roddy Bottom was and big ups to Roddy because I made that day joke about the comedy thing.

Speaker 3:
[53:33] It was amazing.

Speaker 2:
[53:33] But I mean, I was like giddy as a schoolgirl. I.

Speaker 3:
[53:36] OK, so yeah. So I loved Radiohead. I've been obsessed with them for a while.

Speaker 2:
[53:41] And are you still a fan of theirs? You still have all the records?

Speaker 3:
[53:43] I'm still a fan and I still have all the I see. My dad actually just mailed me all my old CDs and I had every CD. Yeah, it's crazy. And then I ran into Tom York one time.

Speaker 2:
[53:52] You're saying you had a story.

Speaker 3:
[53:53] Chateau Marmont. And I was. Listen, I don't usually get starstruck. You know me, like, I'm pretty like, I'll look you right in the eye. I don't care. Like, I've met most people. But Tom York was someone that, because it had been so many emotional moments for me and listening to Radiohead had been so emotional for me that he was at the checking in at Chateau Marmont. And I remember he just turned around and, you know, he's got like the, like, lady eye. And I remember he just looked at me and I just froze. Like I just was like a deer in headlights. And he just was staring back at me. And then he just turned back around and probably like, this girl's like a huge fan. You know what I mean? But I couldn't even say anything. That's how. And I'm not like that. Like I'm normally like, hey, what's up? Or like I'm a big fan or whatever. Like, just keep it moving. Right.

Speaker 2:
[54:37] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[54:38] I was like, holy shit. Like I froze there and I regret like I was at. God, that was probably right after we dated. It was a long time ago.

Speaker 2:
[54:49] I just went to the Chateau Romain for the first time, like a month ago.

Speaker 3:
[54:52] You're kidding.

Speaker 2:
[54:53] Yeah, I'm not a big dude. I don't do anything. I go to concerts. I don't. I moved away. I was like, I never went there.

Speaker 3:
[54:58] So I used to go there a lot back in the day. I'm not really anymore because we don't really go out that much. But I mean, it was just so he was probably one of the only people that I've met. I've met fucking everybody at this point, but he was one of the only people because of that connection to the music that I just was like, holy shit, I can't even say anything. I saw I have so much respect for him.

Speaker 2:
[55:17] Of course. I mean, the band in general is held up to a pedestal. And I think it and I'm telling you, it starts here. Because, you know, this is the opposite. Let's talk about why this is essential. This is the real debut. This isn't Pablo Honey and nothing against Pablo Honey. But the Pablo Honey is not on the list with other records. All of them, I think, on the new 2020 list, they I think most of them are. Maybe this maybe Pablo Honey is not. I actually want to do a sketch about like Johnny Greenwood being the writing creep. And Johnny's like, I'm going to do like a kachanka. And I go like, I'm going to work. He's like, please, I'm telling you, let me have fun.

Speaker 3:
[55:54] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[55:54] And but this is where, like I said, this is where they become radiohead. You have to understand at the time it's 1995, Brit pop is exploding. Oasis blur are dominating. They are the end. They are the gold standard of 90s Brit pop. Just solid rock is evolving into something more introspective. You know, don't forget in America, you've got Nirvana and Pearl Jam, who and some of the original Soundgarden. You know, it's it's it's the reaction to hair metal. Yeah, which was too big.

Speaker 3:
[56:25] I was kind of pushed it all out. Oh, well, it killed it all.

Speaker 2:
[56:28] All music has waves. I said this many times in the podcast, but it's just they all waves. Like the reaction to Limp Bizkit and corn was the strokes.

Speaker 3:
[56:37] The best. Yeah. And by the way, I remember. So when did Room on Fire come out, 2003 or 2004?

Speaker 2:
[56:45] You know, there was 2002 because I think no, no, no, no, no, I'll do that. You can check on that for me.

Speaker 3:
[56:48] That's what the moment 1251 Reptilia. Yeah, the 1251 Reptilia was Room on Fire. I remember. I think it was 2003, right?

Speaker 2:
[56:58] So it's 20, 2001 and then 2003. You're right. You got it.

Speaker 3:
[57:01] 2003. OK, so I'm at fucking I'm in Doylestown, Pennsylvania. It's 2003 and I walk into a fucking random coffee shop, right? And I'm with Ron.

Speaker 2:
[57:13] Good old Ron.

Speaker 3:
[57:13] Ron's with me. And I run into Julian Casablanca's Jules and he's standing there at the counter in fucking Doylestown ordering coffee. I fucking had I was listening, just listening to them in the car. Dude, I freaked out, but I was chill, but I was like in my head. I was like, oh my God, how am I going to hit on this guy with Ron here? You know what I mean? Like, how am I going to work Ron into the equation? You know what I mean? Because I'm like, he was looking, he was so handsome. He was so skinny and tall, like fucking looked so good. And he's tall as shit. I think he might be even taller than Tommy, but I remember I just had such a crush on him and I was so nervous and I go to go up to him and my dad follows me.

Speaker 2:
[57:58] Oh fuck off Ron.

Speaker 3:
[57:59] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[58:01] Why you cock-blocking Ron?

Speaker 3:
[58:02] Lay back.

Speaker 2:
[58:03] It could have been Brittany Casablanca.

Speaker 3:
[58:06] I was like fall back soldier.

Speaker 2:
[58:07] You're going to fuck Brandon Boyd from Incubate.

Speaker 3:
[58:11] I have stories about that too. I have that with him.

Speaker 2:
[58:13] Radiohead.

Speaker 3:
[58:13] Anyway, Radiohead. Finish your strokes then. So Ron follows me and I'm walking up and I'm so shy. I'm like, excuse me, Jules. I'm like, dude, I fucking love you guys. He's like, oh really? He was so sweet and we had a thing. We had a moment. He wasn't with a girl or anything. We're talking and Ron's like, oh, you like the coffee cake here? I was like, oh my God, like get me.

Speaker 2:
[58:37] Her dad's like an eight year old. He's like, I'm dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

Speaker 3:
[58:39] And he's like farting and I'm like, oh God.

Speaker 2:
[58:40] He's trying to make you laugh because you're fucking depressed as shit. You had to fucking turn into goddamn fucking Peewee Herman. Stop Brittany, my mother's doing a good life. You haven't eaten in three days.

Speaker 3:
[58:50] He had to entertain me anyway. My dad killed the vibe and he had Jules. And then I was like, all right, it's clearly not going to happen. Can I just get your autograph? And I have it still. And it's a little tiny piece of paper from this coffee shop. And it's like, love Jules. And I still have it. I love him. And he was so nice to me. And I was such a loser fan girl. And like, I'm not even like, people are like, oh, you're a fucking groupie. I never dated any musicians besides my husband. Like, I was going to say, unless you consider yourself a musician, but I didn't date any fucking musicians besides my husband. I like a lot of music and I've hung out with people, but I've never tried to date anybody. I usually just keep it low key. But I'm like, dude, it's just so crazy. Like, and now like the Strokes revival at Coachella, like it's such a full circle. Yeah, they killed it.

Speaker 2:
[59:34] It was really, we had a really funny moment. I'll tell this story to you. And then when I get to get to this record, because we could talk for five, six hours.

Speaker 3:
[59:40] Oh my God, you guys, you'll come back on.

Speaker 2:
[59:42] You'll come back on. I think everybody, I love it. I don't give a fuck about that. Mark, Mark in Toronto loves it.

Speaker 3:
[59:47] This episode is for us.

Speaker 2:
[59:49] Sometimes you got to do it, man.

Speaker 3:
[59:50] We're the only ones listening to it. We're like, this is great.

Speaker 2:
[59:52] No, dude, fucking my boy in San Francisco, the writer, the Lou Reed fan. He listens to everything. That's my boy.

Speaker 3:
[59:59] Okay, so wait, we're talking about the album.

Speaker 2:
[60:01] Rich is listening to this. I got my diehards, man.

Speaker 3:
[60:04] Okay, shout out to Rich.

Speaker 2:
[60:06] Dude, I love, what I was saying was, I went to go see Nine Inch Noize right before the Strokes. Yeah, they're awesome. I went with Nick, the guitarist. Yeah. He goes, dude, go. I got to play guitar.

Speaker 3:
[60:17] I got to practice.

Speaker 2:
[60:19] Dude, Nine Inch Noize, they ended at 9.45 and the Strokes go on at 10. Because I'm an artist or with the artist, the artist pass, I run, because I was on the audio booth so I could hear the show and really get to see it. And I run to the fucking carts and there's a line. But I have the artist thing, so they're just like, get him in. He's got to get to the Strokes. They get it. And I couldn't get, I was trying to find his son and his friends so we could hang together, because we've been hanging all day. And dude, I don't know where they are. And there's no reception at Coachella. There's no reception. And I'm like, so I try to go to the stage and then I get on and then I get kicked off and I'm getting yelled at for this. And I mean, I thought I had all the passes and I had pretty much everything, but except the all access, all access on the thing. And then I get yelled at by this guy and I go, now I can hear them playing and I'm like, fuck, there are two songs in. Fuck. And then this is so funny. And then I go to his manager, Andre, and I go, dude, I'm trying to find these kids and I got kicked off this. And he goes, he goes, come with me. And he goes up to the stage, he goes, you can sit here. And I'm like, no, I want to go with them. And then the guy who yelled at me, like, apologizes. He's like, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize it. I'm like, yeah, I understand. I get it. I was, I've been on tour before. I know what this is like. And so then he takes me to the artist, like watching area in the front of the stage. But I have to walk, cause you know, you have all the fans.

Speaker 3:
[61:38] You have to walk in front of everybody in the barricade. In front of the barricade, I know.

Speaker 2:
[61:41] They're playing, there are four songs in. And it's like, and Nick looks right at me and goes, and I'm just like, I'm sorry. Like he looks at his watch, like, I'm like, I told him, I was like, dude, the security thing. And he goes, no, I got it. That's hilarious.

Speaker 3:
[62:00] I love you, Nick.

Speaker 2:
[62:01] You're homie supreme.

Speaker 3:
[62:02] It's such a crazy thing. And you know, man, fucking, we've just lived such a crazy life.

Speaker 2:
[62:07] I had the best life in the world. I am, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[62:09] Despite all of it, you know, all the things that have happened in my life, like, I don't take back anything. I think everything happened for a reason. I really do. Oh, the bad things have all led to better things.

Speaker 2:
[62:21] Even Angelo passing away is so much good. It's made me a better person. It's made me it's made me appreciate life. When I finally dealt with everything and I listened to what he had taught me, he was the one that said, combine comedy with music. I don't know how you do it. Any time I fucking done that, I made a lot of money.

Speaker 3:
[62:39] People love it.

Speaker 2:
[62:40] And because I'm having fun in the podcast. This is what we used to talk about. And I mean, dude, and I live, he lives a curious through me because we always talked about when we had money of going to concerts, it's all we wanted to do. Like, well, let's go to a movie.

Speaker 3:
[62:54] Yeah, he loved music and he loved movies. He could name every actor in every film.

Speaker 2:
[62:58] Dude, he would be the perfect guest for every hour. He would be, I have Wayne Federman when I can't find a guest. This album didn't feel like it was a Federman record. This was, I needed somebody that, because I knew he wasn't a Radiohead fan like I am. And I wanted to find somebody that was. And I'm so happy I went to their Instagram page and you were the first, you followed him. And I was like, oh, Brittany. I was like, oh my God, we need somebody immediately. Please, I hope she's available. Or I hope she's not sleeping.

Speaker 3:
[63:23] I'm going, I'm taking Tommy. We're going to go see him. I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:
[63:25] I went to London and I saw all four nights of the 02. Oh dude, that's why I don't want kids, man. I like being selfish.

Speaker 3:
[63:32] I know, I mean, I'm almost 40. I don't know if I want kids. I don't think it's going to happen. How is it going to happen?

Speaker 2:
[63:38] If it does, it does and you'd be a great mom.

Speaker 3:
[63:41] Thanks.

Speaker 2:
[63:42] But you know, because we both have examples of what not to do. That being said, The Benz.

Speaker 3:
[63:49] The Benz, baby's got the Benz.

Speaker 2:
[63:51] Let me say this, this is why, which we just covered at Moon Tower. We opened one of the shows with, I would do two songs in the beginning. We opened with Fake Baxter Trees one night. Then we went from that into Freedom 90 by George Michael, which I love, I think George Michael's, oh God, I love him so much. And then another night, on the first night, we did Mamas and the Papas, California Dreamin because we did that record last week. And it's such a good song. And then we did OK Computer, Paranoid Android. Six, seven minutes long, that was for me.

Speaker 3:
[64:25] Tommy calls me Paranoid Android.

Speaker 2:
[64:27] Oh, you are a Android. I am Brittany, time to make a Vine video.

Speaker 3:
[64:32] Wait, so what's your favorite song on the Benz?

Speaker 2:
[64:36] Well, that's what we do at the end.

Speaker 3:
[64:37] Oh, OK, just kidding. Never mind. I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[64:39] Don't bury the lead. I have a whole thing.

Speaker 3:
[64:41] All right, I'm not going to let you go then. You rock it. You know what? What else was I going to tell you? It's just so funny, isn't it? Because it was like. I mean, like this, all this stuff happened and we were both struggling so hard. And I just want to say this for anyone that's like out here, that's like struggling and you're like, I'm never going to make it. It's never going to happen. I mean, what did it take? Took me like 10 years.

Speaker 2:
[65:06] No, it didn't. It did not. You were, dude, you were going to be, you were going to be successful by Hooker, by Crook. It, you know, I got a lot of early success after we broke up and then.

Speaker 3:
[65:17] Yeah, you did.

Speaker 2:
[65:18] But I wouldn't, I had to keep creating. And dude, I'm making 18 years in August of doing this shit.

Speaker 3:
[65:22] Yeah, you've been doing it a long time.

Speaker 2:
[65:24] And I'm telling you, I look because of peptides, I look amazing.

Speaker 3:
[65:27] What peptides are you taking? GHK, whatever?

Speaker 2:
[65:29] I'm on like, I'm on enough to kill a terrapin.

Speaker 3:
[65:33] I'm scared of them.

Speaker 2:
[65:35] Dude, I go to the doctor. I'm so on top of it.

Speaker 3:
[65:37] All these people take like GLP-1s, too. Do you take that?

Speaker 2:
[65:39] I do RETA. I'm going to start taking. I've heard about RETA.

Speaker 3:
[65:43] You are very thin.

Speaker 2:
[65:44] I do like it, though. I look I like being thinner than I like bulky, but I'm still muscular.

Speaker 3:
[65:48] It's just lean and fit.

Speaker 2:
[65:50] I mean, the women aren't complaining. Lekker. She's watching me. Fuck. You imagine what that's like?

Speaker 3:
[65:58] No. Terrifying. Yeah, I've been there, actually. Terrifying. Thanks for the flashbacks. Thank you for the PTSD flashbacks.

Speaker 2:
[66:06] Oh, my God. It's so funny.

Speaker 3:
[66:07] I have PTSD. What did some girls say the other day? It was so funny. She's like, I have PTSD. Pretty tight syndrome. Pretty tight. Wait, wait.

Speaker 2:
[66:18] Forget it out. Come on. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[66:21] She said, I have PTSD. Pussy tight syndrome disorder.

Speaker 2:
[66:28] Good for her, dude.

Speaker 3:
[66:30] Things like a fucking gorilla grip. All right, you can cut that out anyway. All right. No, it's so funny because I just was going to say, if you're if you're struggling, like, well, some people shouldn't keep going, but, you know, keep going. If you think a lot of people shouldn't keep going, whether it's comedy or acting, but you can't.

Speaker 2:
[66:48] They always say you either know if you got it or you don't. If you quit, your chances go to zero.

Speaker 3:
[66:54] Yeah, exactly. But if you try, at least you know.

Speaker 2:
[66:56] Even at my lowest.

Speaker 3:
[66:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:58] And I mean that even when I was a fucking junkie. Not not I was never a junkie. I was a I was a pill addict with you.

Speaker 3:
[67:03] Josh, I remember the boils on your chest.

Speaker 2:
[67:07] Cystical. You know, it's funny. I haven't because I took acupressure.

Speaker 3:
[67:10] I was picking so bad when you were using.

Speaker 2:
[67:12] No, you were picking. You'd pick on me. Women love that.

Speaker 3:
[67:14] Because you had fucking boils, dude.

Speaker 2:
[67:16] Hold on. So this is what's so funny.

Speaker 3:
[67:18] He's like cut out the boil time.

Speaker 2:
[67:19] No, I don't give a fuck, dude. What's so funny is.

Speaker 3:
[67:21] You were a junkie.

Speaker 2:
[67:22] I haven't had a pimple in fucking years because I did Accutane when I was like 41. Because I was done.

Speaker 3:
[67:28] That's great.

Speaker 2:
[67:28] Well, I do. I was like, I'm done. I'm done. It's just my mom gave me all these skin disorders. And dude, my skin has been perfect.

Speaker 3:
[67:36] Shaman's got flaky skin.

Speaker 2:
[67:37] I got it on the eggs. I got rosacea and cystic acne. But I started taking it, so I'm going to have pimple forever. And of course, the weekend I go to fucking Coachella, I got a fucking dude out here. It wasn't terrible.

Speaker 3:
[67:48] A deep one?

Speaker 2:
[67:49] No, it wasn't bad. It wasn't.

Speaker 3:
[67:50] A subcutaneous?

Speaker 2:
[67:51] I could have popped it, but I left it alone. And then eventually it popped on its own. But I was like, of course, I'm going to see Brittany. And she's going to be like.

Speaker 3:
[67:58] I used to fucking go crazy. They would explode, too. They were crazy. Hit me in the eye.

Speaker 2:
[68:03] I'd be like, I remember when I went to Jackass forever.

Speaker 3:
[68:07] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:07] You remember when I remember you were like, hey, you can get your SAG card. You get on Jackass, Jackass 2 or Jackass 3. And it was like, but what do you got to do is they because it's in 3D, they want to pop a pimple. You always got big pimples. They get you your SAG card. That was the most embarrassing day of my life to have fucking Johnny Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine. Like, look at my face. No, no, I drove over there. It was in Burbank.

Speaker 3:
[68:28] But I hooked it up, right?

Speaker 2:
[68:29] No, I didn't know. They didn't pick anybody. Oh, now I'm just this guy that's like, yeah, I'm here for looking at my fucked up face. I didn't even have bad pimples. The Benz. Accutative. You're breaking out. Accutative.

Speaker 3:
[68:43] Bro, I'm dying right now. This is so this is so many. I'm just having so many flashbacks of like you just sitting in the tub.

Speaker 2:
[68:51] Let's see the King of Limbs.

Speaker 3:
[68:53] It's just crazy. Like we just I mean, good for you. I'm so happy. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm like laughing.

Speaker 2:
[69:00] Do you remember how how shitty are that that that bath? They're like, it like paid out.

Speaker 3:
[69:05] It was awful. And it was like from like the show was falling down. It was like yellow. It was like the color of this fucking globe. It was horrible. Anyway, life is so much better now for both of us, which I'm so glad. We both have come so far. Yeah. And I'm really proud of you.

Speaker 2:
[69:20] Thank you. I'm proud of you, too. I've been proud of you for a long time.

Speaker 3:
[69:22] We do we do our best. That's all we can do. Everybody does their best and that's it.

Speaker 2:
[69:26] The only thing we're not doing our best at is staying on track about Radiohead.

Speaker 3:
[69:28] Dude, I'm literally feeling like I need to take an adderall to have this conversation. We're like all over the place. Both of us are like all over the place.

Speaker 2:
[69:36] Listen, I'm going to steer the ship now.

Speaker 3:
[69:38] OK.

Speaker 2:
[69:38] We're going to give you at least a half hour of Radiohead stuff. And then the show is over because we're going to go get food and we're going to laugh and have fun.

Speaker 3:
[69:47] That's the part they probably want to see. They want to hear all those stories.

Speaker 2:
[69:50] I can go over the history of Radiohead. We've already done a bunch of episodes. Dude, I'll tell you the truth. When we did the first episode with Alec, we were just gushing about how much we loved about him. And I think it was in Rainbows. And we just, or maybe it was Amnesiac, but it was just you. This is like what this is. Like I keep going back to being that this is the record. And I remember, because I knew the guy, my buddy, I used to play like street hockey with these older guys and this guy, he loved Creed, Micah Bate. And then I bought this record and I would, you know, I would sort of raspy voice, I always have been singing like, you know, fake plastic trees and high and dry. And I remember all the videos. But it was really Planet Tellix, the first song that they still play and still will open. They open one of their shows in London. The crowd goes fucking bananas. You know, this is actually not so. So their normal producer was one of the extra producers on it. Nigel Godrich. This is actually produced by a guy, John Leckie. He worked with the Stone Roses.

Speaker 3:
[70:52] She's all hello.

Speaker 2:
[70:53] He's fucking like, I won't stop betting you.

Speaker 3:
[70:55] She heard Leckie.

Speaker 2:
[70:57] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even think about that. But in the world, like you mentioned, early in an era's beginning, AOL was CDs everywhere.

Speaker 3:
[71:05] Dude, it was crazy.

Speaker 2:
[71:07] Gen X, anxiety at all time.

Speaker 3:
[71:09] So bad. Anxiety, depression. It was so funny. I saw a meme the other day. It was like, instead of just moving out of, Radiohead could have avoided making all those depressing albums if they just moved out of England, like instead of staying there for eight years. But it's true. But I love it.

Speaker 2:
[71:25] England is what.

Speaker 3:
[71:25] I love the depressing music. I love it.

Speaker 2:
[71:28] Because it rains so much in the winter. That's why I haven't gone in a while. It's really raining.

Speaker 3:
[71:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:33] It's brought some of the greatest music ever.

Speaker 3:
[71:36] I love when you're depressed and you just sink into the depression and you just are like, you know what? I'm depressed.

Speaker 2:
[71:42] I've never listened to Radiohead as I'm depressed. That's the last thing I would listen to. I don't get depressed listening to them. I don't.

Speaker 3:
[71:49] I could literally turn on into rainbows and be like, they're there now. I would just fall into depression.

Speaker 2:
[71:54] They're there is off of Hail to the Thief.

Speaker 3:
[71:57] It's what?

Speaker 2:
[71:58] They're there is off of Hail to the Thief.

Speaker 3:
[71:59] Hail to the Thief. Never mind. See, I'm fucking all of it up.

Speaker 2:
[72:02] No, you're not. Much like you were saying, you know, like about Tom, you know, because all their career paths are so different where Tom is his art school kid. Very introspective. He hates fame immediately and they get, you know, all of this fame.

Speaker 3:
[72:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[72:17] From Creep.

Speaker 3:
[72:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[72:19] Creep blows up and the band resents it.

Speaker 3:
[72:22] Yeah, they hate it.

Speaker 2:
[72:22] They hate that song.

Speaker 3:
[72:24] They still fucking hates it.

Speaker 2:
[72:25] Which I had to pay. They had to pay the Hollies because they basically stole some of the.

Speaker 3:
[72:30] What song?

Speaker 2:
[72:31] The Air That I Breathe. If you want to pull it up, can you play it?

Speaker 3:
[72:33] I want to hear the comparison.

Speaker 2:
[72:35] As you pull that up, the Air That I Breathe, the Hollies, it's damn near identical.

Speaker 3:
[72:39] Really?

Speaker 2:
[72:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[72:40] Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:
[72:41] But the pressure becomes because they probably already seen as like mid-tier grunge clone and the pressure to prove that they're not a fluke is this record.

Speaker 3:
[72:51] Right.

Speaker 2:
[72:52] Because it could have just fallen into everything else. And I mean, I think it is a pivotable like them having to plan the sequencing of the record. They I think when I think that they I would love to know, I think they had to probably sit down and say, man, we're going to start this record. This is our second follow up. I don't want to be lumped in with Blur. I don't want to be lumped in with Oasis. You know, you do have other bands like the Verve coming up, which are my favorite. Dude, I that's why I went to England to see Oasis three times because I wanted to see Richard because I love the Verve.

Speaker 3:
[73:23] Yeah, the Verve is great.

Speaker 2:
[73:24] But I think they chose Planet Tellex because it is so fucking different than every single thing that was going on in Britpop. And they recorded it. No bullshit while Trump was drunk. Tom Trump, Tom was drunk, lying on the floor singing. The vibe of the song is almost floating. It's detached. It's like emotional dissociation. My question to you is, have you ever created something great while completely not OK? Was the Vine from that?

Speaker 3:
[73:54] My whole fucking life, dude.

Speaker 2:
[73:56] Was the Vine like? Bro.

Speaker 3:
[73:57] Because you were like with... I think I blew up on Vine because let me tell you what happened. I got with Randall and then I was like...

Speaker 2:
[74:04] Gay Randall. Homo Randall.

Speaker 3:
[74:07] Stop, Randall. I'm sorry. OK, so I got with Randall and...

Speaker 2:
[74:12] How come you're enjoying your dad's money?

Speaker 3:
[74:14] Stop! His dad died.

Speaker 2:
[74:16] So did mine. Before his. Josh! Dad died, Bob. Go ahead. Take me to your thoughts. We got to do three more questions and we'll get the out of here.

Speaker 3:
[74:25] OK, so when I got with him, I was like... They put me on that antidepressant Effexor when I was in...

Speaker 2:
[74:32] It's my favorite metal band. It's like a Scandinavian... We all need Effexor!

Speaker 3:
[74:38] OK, so they put me on Effexor when I was in the... I was in a mental hospital, but it was when I was 16. And I was on 150 milligrams, and I was like, fuck this shit. I don't want to be on anything anymore because I don't like being stuck on anything. So I weaned myself down off that shit. And if you Google like Effexor withdrawal, they say it's like worse than heroin. Like it's one of the only antidepressants.

Speaker 2:
[75:00] I remember when you didn't have any. Horrible!

Speaker 3:
[75:02] And you shake and you sweat and it's like...

Speaker 2:
[75:04] It's like electric shocks to your brain.

Speaker 3:
[75:06] You get electric shocks and people, they don't die, but they have to get hospitalized. Anyway, so I weaned myself all the way off this shit. And I've been honest for so many years at that point that I couldn't walk straight. Like I started fucking up, like I couldn't walk straight. I couldn't go to works. I couldn't have a job. I couldn't go to auditions, nothing. And so I was so depressed.

Speaker 2:
[75:27] You worked at that pizza place in fucking, not Hancock, what was that? Larchmont Village, remember you walked in?

Speaker 3:
[75:34] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[75:34] You worked for an hour and you went, peace. All right, back to the story. I'm sorry, I'm not doing you any good.

Speaker 3:
[75:39] Anyway, this was a dark period where I couldn't leave the house. Cause it was the paranoia of, I was off the medicine and I was dizzy. It had fucked up like my equilibrium. I went to like the Balance Institute on La Cienega. Like I thought something was wrong with me. Cause I was like, I can't go C straight. I was dizzy and shit, but it was from the effects that had literally altered my brain chemistry. So I stayed off of it. And so Randall, and actually this is what's crazy about Randall's. I had a BlackBerry and Randall bought me my first iPhone. He's like, you need an iPhone. So he buys me the iPhone. I'm just in the house all day, every day. Like I don't even know how he always is.

Speaker 2:
[76:12] You're always like that.

Speaker 3:
[76:13] You still are a little bit like, oh, she likes going out and doing shit. I'm like, no, I like being.

Speaker 2:
[76:17] Well, no. But when you go out, you're a people person and you can put on the even if you're feeling shitty, yeah, you can. You know, I like the way you put that. Yeah. But go back, go back.

Speaker 3:
[76:26] Keep going.

Speaker 2:
[76:26] Keep going. I like this.

Speaker 3:
[76:27] So I get this fucking iPhone and I'm so depressed and I'm I can't walk straight. I'm dizzy. I'm like not doing good off of the effects. And then I just see this app. Kelly Oxford. Remember her? She was she was popular writer and I followed her on Instagram. She advertised for Vine and she was like this new app. Vines can be so funny. So I get on there and I was like, you know, I loved comedy, but I couldn't leave the house because I was too anxious at the time being off the medicine. I was like, I'll just make funny videos on my phone. And that's how it started was I was so depressed and I was in this dark place like this where I was like, I can't leave my house. I'm anxious. I would shake to leave the house. I couldn't help it. It was just my brain chemistry all fucked up. So I start making these videos and I start making all these characters and the most ridiculous characters and just having so much fun and just being a fucking idiot. And it blows up, it blows up so fast too. It blows up in like months, right? So I remember the first brand deal. I had no money at the time, right? And I was like, Benefit Cosmetics was the first company that reached out to me.

Speaker 2:
[77:33] And I cut. You know what they say?

Speaker 3:
[77:34] What?

Speaker 2:
[77:35] Would they cut you?

Speaker 3:
[77:36] So they hit me up and they go, hey, we think you're so funny. Can we pay you ten thousand dollars to do one Vine video? And I was like.

Speaker 2:
[77:44] Six seconds.

Speaker 3:
[77:45] Bitch, I would have did that shit for a lip gloss, you know what I mean? I would have did that shit for like a blush, you know what I mean? But I was like, let me talk to my manager. And I didn't have a manager at the time. I had nothing. And then I got contacted by ICM, CAA and WME all in the same week.

Speaker 2:
[78:01] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[78:02] And then I got, I went and had a meeting. My first meeting was with ICM. And I didn't really have a manager. I had like a kind of fake manager at the time, this lady, Dolores, who was in a couple commercials.

Speaker 2:
[78:13] Hey everybody, it's me.

Speaker 3:
[78:13] Yeah, I'm Dolores, literally.

Speaker 2:
[78:15] I got you. You're going to be an extra on Entourage. Be careful of heaven.

Speaker 3:
[78:19] She was so nice. OK, that's a story.

Speaker 2:
[78:21] I know.

Speaker 3:
[78:21] OK, so I love him. But anyway, so she she brings me to the ICM meeting. And I'm like sweating because like I am off the effects her and I cannot be out in public like I can do all these videos and be so funny in the comfort of my own home. But I couldn't perform like I was like, I can't do this. I'm having a panic attack. Like I'm not I'm such bad social anxiety. Right. So I get into the meeting and I charm them, whatever. My heart's beating a million miles a minute. And then I leave the meeting and they go, we want to sign you right now. Like we don't even want you to go meet with CAA or WME or whatever. And like I've never had this happen. So I was like, yeah, I just signed with them. I was like, OK, great. But then I was like, I got to be able to function. So then I went back on the effect, sir. And literally within days back to myself. Yeah, it's so fucked up how bad my anxiety is. But I'm really proud of myself because I never went back to like the high dose. I'm literally on a dose that they give like two year olds. So I mean, I wean myself down all the way down to like the starting dose of it. And that's all I take. I don't take anything else. I don't do drugs. I don't smoke weed. I don't drink. I don't anything good. I'm fucking just me.

Speaker 2:
[79:30] But that's that, you know, it's even this this stuff I'm doing right now. I don't know if you've seen any of it. But it's like when I went to Europe and had the best summer of my life, I mean, the best summer of my life. I came back to New York and I got really depressed because also it got super cold. And then also you're dealing with, like I keep saying that joke about herpes, a comedy, it's like where I used to get all these spots in the cellar. Now I'm barely getting any and the stand is barely giving anything. And I'm like, it's all I want to do is work and perform. And so you make your own work. So I said, well, you know what, I built this studio already in my living room. And it was like, I'm just going to make these funny songs over viral clips. And now they're blowing up and now my agents are excited. It's like, but you do that shit because like, this will be fun.

Speaker 3:
[80:10] Yeah, it's fun. You don't expect you don't ever think anything's going to happen.

Speaker 2:
[80:13] The jam, the podcast. I knew I didn't know this podcast was going to be a thing. Because I remember when I came up with the idea, I said my buddy, Jeremiah, is the producer. I go, like we were working on another podcast. He said, we've done 10 episodes of the other thing. We haven't released them. I go, this is a million dollar idea. Yeah, it's a million already. We're going to sell this to Spotify. And then we did Dark Lord, Spotify. And then they dropped us because Joe Rogan took all the money.

Speaker 3:
[80:35] All right. All right.

Speaker 2:
[80:36] Moving on.

Speaker 3:
[80:37] Anyway, so yeah, dark period of my life, but paid off. And it was the darkest moment of my life when I made the most ridiculous content ever. And I got canceled for it later, you know, because everyone was like, you're doing characters that are not your race.

Speaker 2:
[80:48] Which I'm going to ask you. Let me ask you the second question that I think that's going to be. I think that's a good thing to talk about. From high and dry, Tom hates this. Tom hates high and dry. He thinks it's too soft. And ironically, because he hated it, it becomes a hit. And I still, once again, think it's the sequencing because they open with Planetellix. The Bends is another great song. And then they have two back to back quasi ballads. But Fake Plastic Trees isn't a ballad, if you actually know what it's about, which we'll get to. But high and dry is just is like a is a typical Brit pop song of the time. But he hates it. So speaking of that, to pick that up, the question I was going to ask was, have what what's something you've done that people loved but you secretly hate? And a lot of people did love it.

Speaker 3:
[81:33] People loved it until woke culture came around in like 2016. Like that's what killed it was like everybody was doing shit like that. Everyone was saying, you know, the R word and the F word and, you know, doing goofy shit three times on this podcast.

Speaker 2:
[81:47] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[81:48] And just having fun and no one cares. And like you didn't take it personally because, you know, calling someone that isn't meaning like to offend the people that are that, you know, I mean, we just grew up in a different time and we just made fun of each other and we still do endearingly. But it's like people don't get it and they're so woke and they just want to cancel you for everything. So anyway, I had all these characters and people were like, you know, you're racist, you're this, you're that. I don't have a racist bone in my fucking body. I love everybody like it's crazy. And then I got asked to host the daytime Emmys and I was so nervous. And I remember I told them when they asked me to host it, I was like, listen, I don't know shit about daytime TV. I don't really even watch TV. You know, I was just so busy working at the time. And they were like, don't worry, we're going to have a representative there with you who's going to tell you about everybody before they come up to you. You know, and this is Susan Lucci. Oh, it was so bad. It was so bad, Josh. And so then this like hot actor named Ryan Peavey comes up. And like, I'm just trying to keep it light. And like Joan Rivers was like my inspiration at the time. Like I would go over her house and she would like mentor me. She was amazing.

Speaker 2:
[82:56] She was like, I didn't know you had a relationship.

Speaker 3:
[82:57] Yeah, she was great. Her and Melissa, like I went over there and did her in bed with Joan.

Speaker 2:
[83:01] I remember that.

Speaker 3:
[83:02] She's the best. Anyway, she, she, they were all.

Speaker 2:
[83:04] Ryan Peavey comes up.

Speaker 3:
[83:05] Her and Melissa were always like, fuck what anybody thinks. They were the best. Anyway, so Ryan Peavey comes up and I'm like, we're talking to him. And then I get the, the, the, you know, the producer's going like, wrap it up. And so I'm like, okay, okay, Ryan, this has been great. We better get away, get you away from us before we rape you. I said that on live TV and what was the fallout? And then that was it. Everyone fucking attacked me and they were like, can you imagine if a man said that to a woman and you made him feel unsafe and like all the shit. And then Ryan actually, we talked later that day because we actually like connected kind of, and he was like, then he tweeted out and he was like, I never felt uncomfortable or whatever. I don't think she meant it the way that I read it. Because he knew I was just kidding, like get away from it. But it was like I, and it wasn't the right word and I do apologize for that.

Speaker 2:
[83:54] You think Michael Richards really is going to scream, racist is going to scream the N word at the good level. He was trying to be funny. He thought it was going to get shock and funny and it was a bad choice. I don't think yours is on that level.

Speaker 3:
[84:04] No.

Speaker 2:
[84:05] But we're always.

Speaker 3:
[84:06] But I made bad choices and I just was not, I wasn't, what is it called? Media trained. I wasn't media trained. I was kind of just thrown into this thing. And it's like all these things that people loved about me, like they did love my vines. A lot of people still come up to me and they go like, I love your vines.

Speaker 2:
[84:21] I knew a guy that.

Speaker 3:
[84:22] But I cringe when I look at them now. I'm like, oh God, what an idiot. But it was such a different time.

Speaker 2:
[84:26] Some of them were so funny, dude.

Speaker 3:
[84:28] Some of them are, right.

Speaker 2:
[84:28] I remember the one that I loved was like, this is what you do with vitamins. And he threw them in the trash.

Speaker 3:
[84:32] I was like, these are great. I just got my green juice and I'd pour it down the drain.

Speaker 2:
[84:35] Yeah, hilarious.

Speaker 3:
[84:36] Yeah, and I had all these characters and like, I became friends with all these people through the vines. It was so crazy.

Speaker 2:
[84:41] You've had a lot, you've had a dude.

Speaker 3:
[84:43] Dude, that's how I met Tommy.

Speaker 2:
[84:45] Well, hold on. Let's get, I have a question about that in a minute. Because I think I want to go off what you're going here.

Speaker 3:
[84:50] I remember like Riff Raff put me in a music video. Like, I became friends with like Simon Rex. Like, I got invited to like parties with people that I wouldn't even like, Jimmy Ivey and like all these people like invited me to parties. And I'm like, this is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[85:02] You and King and all the guys on Vine were like it people.

Speaker 3:
[85:05] And then they all like managed their lives properly and I didn't. Because they all have like 22 million followers and I still just have like 2.2.

Speaker 2:
[85:12] Well, why do you why do you not make content anymore?

Speaker 3:
[85:17] Because I just got to a point where I was like, OK, you know what?

Speaker 2:
[85:21] I think I got the question. OK. Fake plastic trees.

Speaker 3:
[85:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[85:25] I think this could fit in there. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm right. But I want to talk.

Speaker 3:
[85:31] That's why I don't make content.

Speaker 2:
[85:32] I bet you have some people think your boobs are fake. They're real.

Speaker 3:
[85:35] They're real.

Speaker 2:
[85:35] And she got a great ass.

Speaker 3:
[85:36] You got a great ass. Tommy's going to beat the shit out of you. He better watch.

Speaker 2:
[85:42] I'm not touching it. She's like my sister now. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[85:46] Like, I can say my sister has a great ass.

Speaker 2:
[85:48] Jodi's got a fat ass, dude. Jodi sent those three kids and now she's working out. It's getting toned. Dude, her and Mark, her husband, Mark. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3:
[85:56] They're both doctors, right?

Speaker 2:
[85:57] He's a lawyer.

Speaker 3:
[85:58] He's a judge.

Speaker 2:
[85:58] He's a judge.

Speaker 3:
[85:59] Oh, gosh.

Speaker 2:
[86:00] She's a lawyer. She's a doctor, a pediatrician. They're both getting in shape. Mark's getting jacked walking around a fucking wife beater. I'm like, you're a swole, dude.

Speaker 3:
[86:08] I'm dead anyway.

Speaker 2:
[86:09] Still does Community Theater, though, which is gay. Fake Plastic Trees. This is probably the song. I mean, this is like one of their most beautiful songs. I mean, that isn't that doesn't feel like how to disappear completely, which is like, you know, I mean, it's so heavy. Like this, even though this this it's this is like reggae. I talk about all the time that reggae music, people think every song is about sitting on the beach having a corona, but it's really like my family died of mesothelioma. It's so it's so real. And Fake Plastic Trees is it's like the mamas and the papas. We just did everybody, which is your behind the scenes and the emotions and all those songs. But it sounds it sounds more positive than it is. And so so this song is is is I mean, it's about breaking down. Tom broke down crying after hearing Jeff Buckley before recording Vocals, which have you watched that documentary? I love Jeff. Grace is one of my favorite records. And we did it with Brandon Boyd, too. And he's the man he gets. He gets comedy so fucking well. He doesn't. Gavin Rossdale. Great guest. But man, when I made a joke, I was like, what's it like being the sexiest man alive in the 90s? And he was like, we're talking about David Bowie, right? I'm like, OK, just the business.

Speaker 3:
[87:24] He's like, what do you mean? I'm not still the sexiest man alive.

Speaker 2:
[87:26] And then I said that to to Brandon. He goes, it was nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[87:31] Brandon still looks great.

Speaker 2:
[87:33] He's amazing. Great human being. I'm glad we're homies. Please follow me on social media.

Speaker 3:
[87:37] Oh, he doesn't follow you? No.

Speaker 2:
[87:40] But the theme of this song is artificial life, fake happiness. You know, and you hear that in the lyrics. I mean, I mean, one, I mean, this song must mean so much to you about like because this is such a it's such a beautiful song, such a beautiful song. Especially that, like those when it really like nice tree, that, that, that, that, that dude, Nick, we killed, we killed it. We killed fucking I'll post all these clips on the 500 stuff because we did we did closer by Nine Inch Nails. The version dude. And it it hurt because we got a new keyboard. I love you, Avery, but Mark, wait, hold on.

Speaker 3:
[88:18] I want to see something really. Yeah, no, that I'm just thinking of the specific lyrics in Fake Plastic Trees, Fake Plastic Watering Canons. Everything's fake, fake trees, fake.

Speaker 2:
[88:32] So when you have your song.

Speaker 3:
[88:33] And it wears me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I was saying this. And it wears me out.

Speaker 2:
[88:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[88:38] It could. Oh, this part's really sad. This is the part that gets me at the end. And if I could be.

Speaker 2:
[88:44] Oh, yeah. Oh, I did. I killed it. The my voice was back. I wasn't. Oh, I, I, I hit my dude. My false. After I had that second vocal cord surgery, it fucking saved my voice.

Speaker 3:
[88:56] Dude.

Speaker 2:
[88:57] Thank God. Love you, Dr. Kaplan. I love you. He just did a nasal procedure to open up my shit, too.

Speaker 3:
[89:03] You're so Jewish.

Speaker 2:
[89:04] All right.

Speaker 3:
[89:05] Thank you, Dr. Kaplan, for fixing my nose of my nasal surgery.

Speaker 2:
[89:09] I had him, my vet and my Botox guy all on speed dial.

Speaker 3:
[89:12] You get Brotox. I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[89:13] You told me. You remember how deep my lines were?

Speaker 3:
[89:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[89:16] You were the one that, I was in my twenties, I had deep lines because of the Jeep.

Speaker 3:
[89:19] I'll take every guy. I'll be like, you need to get this shit. I fix every man that I'm with. Do I not?

Speaker 2:
[89:24] You really do. I do.

Speaker 3:
[89:26] Okay, but listen.

Speaker 2:
[89:27] Let me ask you this question.

Speaker 3:
[89:27] She lives with a broken mind.

Speaker 2:
[89:30] You don't have to sing it. Listen, we've been doing this for three hours.

Speaker 3:
[89:32] I'm like, let me sing.

Speaker 2:
[89:33] Let me ask the fucking question, bitch. I love you. Have when did you or was there one was a moment in your career where you looked around and in your life and thought this all feels kind of fake? Did you have that moment?

Speaker 3:
[89:45] Literally yesterday. I was literally sitting there yesterday and going like. LA is so fake. I know a lot of people, but I don't have very many like close friends and people that have pretended to be my friend to use me or get shit out of me or whatever, like, and it's hurt me so badly. And like, I may be some help.

Speaker 2:
[90:03] You you tried to help you. Everyone you learn because we learned very early from like Tripoli and all the young of the comics that kind of were in the circle with me and Ange that were bigger than us. It's like you got to pull people up. I pulled people up without going into details.

Speaker 3:
[90:17] But, you know, you pulled so many people up and I would just love so hard. And then I would just get shit on. I mean, some of them were really great and some of them we just grew apart. And that's fine. But I just was thinking about and even recently, people that I just got, I just felt like, you know, had hurt me and had just kind of used me in a way. And I just was like, it's heartbreaking. It like breaks your heart, you know, because you, I try to go and I'm, I don't want to say I'm like autistic, but I feel like I'm very genuine and I go into everything with so much love. And then I almost go into it with too much love. And I give so much of myself and I'm so raw and I'm so honest. And then people just break me. And I've been broken so much by people. And I'm not saying I'm perfect. I definitely, you know, maybe I'm not an easy friend. I think I'm more of an easy friend, but I definitely have gone through things that maybe was a lot for certain people, whatever. But I love my friends so much. And I never want to let go of friends. I always want to like have friends, but it's like when someone really hurts me or when I get really hurt by something, I just can't, I can't go back. You know, and I sit there and I'm like recently, like looking at stuff that's happened in my life. And I'm like, God, I got like this person pretended to be my friend just to do this or this person just, you know, wanted this. And I'm like, God, and it's like, you know, or they would, the worst part is like people that would like talk about somebody to me and like for months just rail on somebody and then then change their tune and then be friends with that person. And I just see it all. And I'm just like, this is just sad. Like this is just heartbreaking, man. Like at least like keep it real. You know what I mean? Like I know there's people that don't like me and I will walk and I'll walk into a room and I just won't say anything to them. And that's fine. But I'm not like a mean person. I'm not going to go out of my way to hurt people. You know what I mean? Like I just, I don't know. It kind of just breaks my heart. And then I'm just like, yeah, I guess like people can only be genuine to the capacity that they can be genuine and you know, and I'm actually, I'm working on repairing some friendships right now too, which has been, you know, good. And I always think like there is an opportunity for forgiveness. And I think both people can always come together and try to work on stuff. But that's like the hardest thing for me about LA is that like, I feel like I go into everything was so much love and just show people who I am. I'm like a raw nerve. And then some people just are like, or like, you know, fuck you, you know, whatever.

Speaker 2:
[92:50] And I'm just, all you got to do is keep your side of the street clean. And then you have to.

Speaker 3:
[92:55] Like I'm saying, I'm not sitting here going like, I'm so perfect. But like, damn, like I'd like to think for the most part, like, I love my friends really fucking hard. Or I try to really be there for people. And then people just.

Speaker 2:
[93:07] You're in a town that has everybody's the big thing from their town or they're rich and they think they can make it. That's it. I've never been happier than when I moved to New York. And I mean this. It's not perfect.

Speaker 3:
[93:19] It's different.

Speaker 2:
[93:19] It's not perfect, though. It's not perfect. It's the crew. The end up is still stand up.

Speaker 3:
[93:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[93:24] And like I'm telling you, that's why I'm so excited about this music, because I write these songs so easily and people are responding to them. And I and the comics are coming up to me being like, I like my my agents call me and be like, you're doing whatever you're doing. Keep doing it.

Speaker 3:
[93:36] And that's the thing that my agents don't call me.

Speaker 2:
[93:41] We're going to put a clip in forever. I don't think you posted anything in like nine months.

Speaker 3:
[93:44] No, I did. I posted the other day. I'm trying to get back to it. So like basically I stopped everything for a while because I was just so hurt by so many things that were going on in my life. I was literally so destroyed by so much that was going on in my life, broken hearted by so much that I'd been through. And then you just pick yourself up. Like I've always picked myself up. No matter what I've been through, I always just go, you know what, bitch, get back up on the fucking horse. And so I actually just started going. I told the clubs I'm available to do stand up again. They literally all called me immediately and were like, come back, come perform. So I'm like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[94:18] I remember when you reached out and you said, hey, I got a bunch of stuff I want to talk about. And you were like, who should I hit up? I was like, hit up Tammy Jo.

Speaker 3:
[94:23] Yeah, Tammy Jo. Yeah, and then now because I did the improv and the Laugh Factory so many times and I do well and they just were like, they were hitting me up this whole time when I took this break and I was just like, I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it. And then finally I was like, no, I can fucking do it. Let's go.

Speaker 2:
[94:40] You can do anything you want. You can do anything you want. You're so funny, you're so talented.

Speaker 3:
[94:44] Anyway, no hate to anyone. I love people and none of us are perfect and we all do our best. And that's what it is. And that's life. Sometimes we hurt each other and we don't mean to. And I don't know, it's just life.

Speaker 2:
[94:56] And you're literally, you know, you got started in a thing where social media created and still creates fake plastic lives. I mean, it is.

Speaker 3:
[95:05] Oh, yeah, I mean, it is.

Speaker 2:
[95:06] Dude, that's why I'm so glad.

Speaker 3:
[95:07] It made me hate myself so much. I like redid my whole face.

Speaker 2:
[95:12] So funny.

Speaker 3:
[95:13] People being like, you're ugly, or you this or you that, or she's this or she's that. And I was like, I'm trying to be funny.

Speaker 2:
[95:20] If I have my teacher out and I'm doing this, you're not going to fucking laugh.

Speaker 3:
[95:23] I wasn't trying to be hot. I'm fine. I was being ridiculous. Like I was like, that's not the goal. The goal was to be funny. But then everybody comments about your looks because you're putting yourself out there.

Speaker 2:
[95:32] So you just for a woman. It's I mean, for guys, they don't give a fuck how we look. I mean, that's the thing. So then you start to analyze yourself and you're like, yeah, but you're like, yes, but you're in a, like I said, social once you, you know, because I had a big moment where I was like social, I would go on social media and I would just be like, oh, everybody's doing better and blah, blah, blah. And then I was talking about this is this is the fakest thing in the world. And then I said, nobody. And then you have to realize everybody. And I mean fucking everybody, except for Lekha. Everybody in this room, everybody, the Hollies, fucking everybody we've talked about is we're all in the shit like everybody else. We're all fucking scared. We're all trying to figure this shit out. We're all trying to figure out a way to be happy. And you figure out a way and I figured out a way, Lekha figured out a way. And we have to, you have to live that. And if people attack you, they're attacking, they're just projecting.

Speaker 3:
[96:22] I think that too.

Speaker 2:
[96:24] If you're going to do it, I still do it. I can't tell you how many times I was like, wanted to write something on like some like lame, cringey influencer post or whatever. And then I'm like, I write it and I go, what am I doing?

Speaker 3:
[96:36] Yeah, why would you?

Speaker 2:
[96:36] Why would I post it? Do people hate on me?

Speaker 3:
[96:39] They're already hurting them.

Speaker 2:
[96:40] They hate on me for what I do.

Speaker 3:
[96:42] People hate on me too.

Speaker 2:
[96:43] You're, you're code hanging on Big Jay Orkison. I go, I'm code hanging on Burr. If you think I'm sticking with Jay doing the fucking Dr. Grins, he's killing it and he's going to fucking, he's got shit coming up that this is. I love that, dude.

Speaker 3:
[97:00] But people are just miserable online and people feel so brave behind their keyboards. And then like if you met up with half those people in person, they'd be shaking in their fucking boots. They're so tough online and then you see them face to face and you're like, oh, nevermind.

Speaker 2:
[97:13] Oh, I can't tell you how many times.

Speaker 3:
[97:15] They're not real.

Speaker 2:
[97:16] People have shit on me. And then and then I either see them. I go to fucking Skank Fest where a lot of the Legion of Skank fans are like, like, he sucks. He's not funny. And it's like and then then they and then I get so much love from from bonfire fans, from Legion of Skank fans. And so that's what I hold on to. And you used to hurt me. I used to go on Reddit and like read the red.

Speaker 3:
[97:40] It's like where people go to just like they're just they hate their lives and they just want to make everybody else hate their lives. So I stopped kind of I leave my mean comments up. I don't like delete comment. I'm like, you know what? If that makes you feel better, dude, like, cool. Like, it's all good.

Speaker 2:
[97:56] So when I started posting the first song, which hit like it just did really well, it's almost around two million now. And it's quasi racist. It's this white woman doing her nails and their crazy nails. I'm like, that's more of a black person thing to do. And it's great. It's great. So I'm very talented at the music stuff. Comedy, not so much. But the moral of the story is I got people that were like any of the bad comments and my social guy, the guy that does my clips and does all that, like he would remove it. But I would pin the people like, I can't believe I follow you unfollowed. I pin that because I think it's funny.

Speaker 3:
[98:29] And it takes the power out of it because it's like, OK, dude, like, who are you? What are you doing? And then you go to their page.

Speaker 2:
[98:35] I'm having fun.

Speaker 3:
[98:36] When you go to their page, it's always like, like a Christian, like mother of five love my children. Like, it's so funny, like the women that will say stuff about my looks or like the guys that say shit about my looks and you go to their page and it's like, they got like, oh, please. Oh, he's not like the guys got like summer teeth, like summer here, summer there. You know what I mean? Like, it's crazy. Like, it's like, never heard that it's funny, like fucking Bill from fucking Wisconsin or some shit. Just fucking I'm a corn miner. Like, I don't fucking know. It's just the real job. They're just like the most like and they just leave the most hideous comments and you're just like, you hate your life. Like, you hate your life. Like, you're not a happy person. Here's the thing. No one who is doing better than you will ever try to bring you down.

Speaker 2:
[99:19] A hundred percent. I agree with that.

Speaker 3:
[99:20] No one, not one person who is ever doing better than you will ever try to bring you down because they don't need to. They're like too high up to even give a fuck about what you're doing.

Speaker 2:
[99:31] If you give a shit, that's the only the only thing that Gerard, that I remember he said when I was like, I was mad about something in my career and he goes, dude, stop, stop looking at other people's papers. Take your own tests.

Speaker 3:
[99:43] Amen.

Speaker 2:
[99:44] You got it. And I was like, you're right.

Speaker 3:
[99:45] That's a great fucking thing.

Speaker 2:
[99:46] But it took a while. It's really, I think, and I'll say this to you, and I think you're getting it already in your late thirties, is once you get into your forties, you realize that it's, it's dude, it's like, I mean, I just, my life is so dope. My life is so dope.

Speaker 3:
[100:01] Yeah, I just want peace. It's so dope.

Speaker 2:
[100:03] And even if it's not, I'm not a millionaire, you know, and I mean, it's like, I can't buy everything that I want, but I get to do things that I want to do with cool people that like me, that I like. And I don't give a fuck if I don't care. It's not like I don't try to like people and make them like me. It's like, I just want to like them.

Speaker 3:
[100:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[100:21] And then hopefully they'll like me. But it's like, if I like them, dude, because even with Bill, it was like, it took me forever. He's like, oh, man, I really hope he likes me. And then like maybe five years into our friendship, I finally called him gay and he was like, and I was like, huh? And he's like, yeah, that was a little gay. I was like, oh, thank God.

Speaker 3:
[100:35] That's how you know he's really your friend.

Speaker 2:
[100:36] He's the best anyway. All right. Moving on. Let's do a couple more songs and then we'll do final questions and get you out of here. We did Fake Plastic, High and Dry. You look beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[100:45] Thanks. I was going to send Tommy a picture because he's like, are you still going?

Speaker 2:
[100:48] Something you know about me, but you still do. Now, let's. I don't. All right. Let me mention these songs because I just want to get there. I want to ask questions, but it goes into Bones, which is one of their more aggressive.

Speaker 3:
[100:59] I don't know if I know that one.

Speaker 2:
[101:01] It's about body horror image, you know, so it's I was going to say, what's the weirdest physical insecurity?

Speaker 3:
[101:07] But oh, my God, I've already covered that covered it.

Speaker 2:
[101:09] Nice dream dream versus reality theme comfort that isn't real. Just we talked about that music video. If you've never seen it, fucking go on YouTube. It's great guys lying on the sidewalk, refusing to explain why the song is about self-destruction and knowing better, but doing it anyway.

Speaker 3:
[101:27] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[101:28] Rapid fire question. And say this quickly, what's something you know is bad for you, but you still like to do it?

Speaker 3:
[101:32] Bless you, Mark.

Speaker 2:
[101:34] What's something you know is bad for you, but you still like to do it? Cigarettes. Oh boy.

Speaker 3:
[101:39] I smoke occasionally.

Speaker 2:
[101:40] I'm not always kind of in and out, but Tommy fucking huffs.

Speaker 3:
[101:43] Oh, yeah. He's a full on smoker. But I see it was me. Like, again, I'm not like really addicted to anything, but love.

Speaker 2:
[101:51] Mine as well. Face it.

Speaker 3:
[101:53] You're addicted to love. But no, but like literally smoking is not good. But I've never been addicted to smoking. I can smoke a couple of cigarettes a day and then not smoke for days and smoke. I've never had anything where I'm like, I have to have, you know, thank God. Not going to wood.

Speaker 2:
[102:10] I was, I mean, the smoking, you know what it is? Eggs, man. Remember you called me, you were making fun of me because my cholesterol. No, I don't fart, dude. I mean, I do, but especially.

Speaker 3:
[102:19] I love eggs. I eat hard boiled eggs every day.

Speaker 2:
[102:21] I do. I love, I think the greatest meal in the world. I eat a lot of protein.

Speaker 3:
[102:24] Look, I work out.

Speaker 2:
[102:25] You look great. Yeah, you're great. Great. That's you guys with guns.

Speaker 3:
[102:29] Dude, I'll fucking beat your ass. No, I won't.

Speaker 2:
[102:32] No, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[102:36] Like, you're doing CrossFit for a while.

Speaker 2:
[102:37] I still do it.

Speaker 3:
[102:38] Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2:
[102:39] I love what I like. I'm very vain, but I also like I can't I can't do oxygotten anymore. So I yeah, I do kettlebell swings. I want to feel something.

Speaker 1:
[102:49] That's a that's a quote.

Speaker 2:
[102:51] Well, I said I can't do oxygotten anymore, so I do kettlebell swings. I was like I do CrossFit. It's like I know it's like so I do CrossFit because I can't do oxygotten anymore. And I just need to feel something. I wonder what the joke was. It was on my first Comedy Central set. All right. Bulletproof. We already do that one. Oh, yeah. So I'm going to Meyers and Lung.

Speaker 3:
[103:09] You have to sing these for me because it's like I is man, man, man, man. No, sing it. Don't do that.

Speaker 2:
[103:15] My iron, my iron lung.

Speaker 3:
[103:16] You love it.

Speaker 2:
[103:17] So we talked about that. This is a direct response.

Speaker 3:
[103:19] This whole album is just so good. I mean, they're one of those bands that I feel like so many of their albums are so good. But this one might have the most, I don't want to say hits, but so many songs that you like.

Speaker 2:
[103:31] It's the biggest pop record.

Speaker 3:
[103:32] Yeah. I feel like so many songs that you're like, oh, I know that song. Oh, I know that song. Oh, I know that song. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[103:37] A lot of this stuff is, like I said, this is My Iron Lung, which was in, it was in Plueless. It's so it was like, you put it in a movie, that's pretty, you know, they didn't really have a lot of hits. I mean, it wasn't big hits, like Creep is obviously their biggest hit.

Speaker 3:
[103:54] They had so many big hits.

Speaker 2:
[103:56] No, no, they didn't. They really didn't.

Speaker 3:
[103:58] Radiohead?

Speaker 2:
[103:59] I mean, they're album self, they're album self. They are an album band.

Speaker 3:
[104:02] They have so many hits.

Speaker 2:
[104:03] No, they do. Check, Mark, or I could, you know.

Speaker 3:
[104:06] I could list them now.

Speaker 2:
[104:07] What, like the hits? I don't know how you would say it. Like how many top ten or top hundred? They hit the Billboard 200. Do that. Billboard 200, Radiohead, Billboard 200 hits.

Speaker 3:
[104:15] I like the dog.

Speaker 2:
[104:17] Myron Lung is a response to Creep. You know, I think you already answered the thing that made you famous, but you're over it. We've already talked about that.

Speaker 3:
[104:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[104:26] Bulletproof. One of Tom's most vulnerable vocal performances. What do we got there? Yeah, see, it's all the albums, dude.

Speaker 3:
[104:33] No, no, no, the songs, the songs, the singles. There's so many good hits, dude.

Speaker 2:
[104:39] But I would say Bulletproof is such a beautiful vocal performance. The theme is about wanting emotional invincibility.

Speaker 3:
[104:48] That would be nice.

Speaker 2:
[104:49] You already basically answered the question about what I was going to ask about, you know, do you think you're more guarded or open? Black Star is about a failing relationship. Yeah, see, dude, they never they didn't have his let down. But let down is like bigger. It got big now. Dude, radio is having a research. If radio it does Coachella, if radio is doing Coachella, because Nine Inch Nails, I don't know if you remember, two years ago, Deftones played Coachella.

Speaker 3:
[105:16] Yeah, of course I do. I love the Deftones.

Speaker 2:
[105:18] We all do for years, but Gen Z didn't know about it.

Speaker 3:
[105:21] Yeah, now they're all over TikTok with it.

Speaker 2:
[105:23] They went from being a 3000 seat theater and now they're playing arenas.

Speaker 3:
[105:27] I know.

Speaker 2:
[105:28] Radiohead doesn't need it. They're an arena band. If they play Coachella, they're already starting to get it. Because, dude, Radiohead is is a band. They're like they're like my my Pink Floyd, my Beatles, my Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 3:
[105:39] Right.

Speaker 2:
[105:40] Because it hits you at that. Do you know, Jen fucking X is the best generation. We are the best. No, we.

Speaker 3:
[105:47] Jen X. We're millennials.

Speaker 2:
[105:48] No, I'm Jen X. You're 79.

Speaker 3:
[105:50] Yeah. I think millennials are the best.

Speaker 2:
[105:54] I mean, you guys are fine.

Speaker 3:
[105:55] I think we're great.

Speaker 2:
[105:56] You're still good, but you're not Jen X. Jen X rules. Jack White.

Speaker 3:
[106:00] Are you Jen X too? We're millennials. Excuse me. Millennials are so fucking cool. We don't take shit too seriously. We all look younger than our age. Like, we are the best millennials, like all these fucking Jen Z fucking idiots that try to tell us about shit. And Jen X is a little bit too boomery.

Speaker 2:
[106:17] Fuck off. Suck my balls. That's terrible.

Speaker 3:
[106:20] That's a boomery comment. Suck my Jen Z, Jen X balls or Jen Z balls.

Speaker 2:
[106:26] We have the best slang. Oh, that's the bomb.

Speaker 3:
[106:28] Dude, you guys are fucking. We said that.

Speaker 2:
[106:30] We created it.

Speaker 3:
[106:31] That's the bomb.

Speaker 2:
[106:32] All the best comedy. All the best shit is from people from Jen X.

Speaker 3:
[106:35] And I'm telling you, like the festival.

Speaker 2:
[106:37] I mean, this is all right. We're at two hours. We'll talk about this. We're going to bite you.

Speaker 3:
[106:41] Let's fight. All right.

Speaker 2:
[106:42] So.

Speaker 3:
[106:44] Now I want to fight. We've been hanging out too long.

Speaker 2:
[106:47] It's time to fight. Yeah, you're starting to get vicious.

Speaker 3:
[106:49] Turning into jail.

Speaker 2:
[106:51] Now old Brittany's coming out. Old Brittany. Tell him I'm centenarian millennial. Black Star. It's about a failing relationship. Such a beautiful song. No, no, no. This is going to do. This is great. I love this episode. Black Star about a failing relationship.

Speaker 3:
[107:07] Been in a lot of those.

Speaker 2:
[107:08] We already talked about that. When you know something is ending, do you fight or let it die? And, you know.

Speaker 3:
[107:13] It depends.

Speaker 2:
[107:15] You, what do you, you're a fighter, I think, to a point.

Speaker 3:
[107:17] I think, I mean, my relationship now, I've been in for fucking 10 years. Yeah, I'm going to fight for it.

Speaker 2:
[107:22] That's a long time. I remember that. I remember.

Speaker 3:
[107:23] It'll be 10 years, 20 next year. So you know what? I think when it's that long, like you fight for it because it's like, come on, man. Like, that's basically like a relative at that point. Like, you spend so much time together.

Speaker 2:
[107:39] So inspired by real life mass shooting in the UK. One of their most underrated tracks, I think.

Speaker 3:
[107:47] Salt, done a lot of that in my life.

Speaker 2:
[107:49] I mean, then Street Spirit, which is I mean, it's just Tom York says, says this song is about pure darkness, the arpeggiated guitar, the hypnotic despair. I want to talk. I'm going to ask you this question about Street Spirit. And what was the other one I wrote? Street Spirit. And where is it? God damn it. And High and Dry.

Speaker 3:
[108:11] Oh, boy.

Speaker 2:
[108:12] Be honest.

Speaker 3:
[108:13] I've left been left High and Dry.

Speaker 2:
[108:14] Was Dating Me, More, Higher, Dry or Street Spirit?

Speaker 3:
[108:20] That's a hard question because I feel like at the end, it was High and Dry because it was sad. And it was kind of like I felt like I left you High and Dry because you were in your addiction, even though you say you're not.

Speaker 2:
[108:30] I wasn't because I got sober before that. And then when you left, I relapsed.

Speaker 3:
[108:34] So I felt like what I felt like when you got into the accident and I was your emergency contact.

Speaker 2:
[108:40] It's the only number I remembered. 215-615.

Speaker 3:
[108:43] 215-915-4750.

Speaker 2:
[108:44] That was close enough.

Speaker 3:
[108:45] That's my old number so you can call it. It's not my number anymore.

Speaker 2:
[108:48] It's a philly number.

Speaker 3:
[108:49] But I remember I got that call and from the hospital, but they were like, Josh, You came, you came. Of course I did.

Speaker 2:
[108:59] Because we needed, I wanted, what I really wanted was, was you to get in touch with Angela.

Speaker 3:
[109:04] I have the pictures. Do you want me to give them to you to put in here?

Speaker 2:
[109:06] No, not now, not now. Maybe, maybe some other time when I'm ready.

Speaker 3:
[109:10] Guys, his skull was like cracked open.

Speaker 2:
[109:14] I fractured my skull in two places.

Speaker 3:
[109:16] I remember I walked in and they had just brought both of them in and I saw them gurney Angela.

Speaker 2:
[109:20] I didn't see Angela.

Speaker 3:
[109:21] I saw them gurney him off and then they took him to the room and I went into the room with you and then, because you guys were both kind of like in the, they were both working on both of you and then you went into this room and I went in with you and the back of your head was open and there was just a big puddle of blood underneath your head, like this big. I have pictures of it and you looked dead. And I remember thinking you looked-

Speaker 2:
[109:45] I was on fentanyl so I was like-

Speaker 3:
[109:46] Yeah, I remember thinking you looked dead and you were like, you came. That's what you said to me. You said, you came. And I was like, oh my God, this is so horrible. And then the nurse goes, can I talk to you? Like five minutes after me being there. And I go out into the hallway and she goes, do you have the contact for-

Speaker 2:
[110:01] Angelo, Angelo's family. Do they know? Because I was so bad, girl.

Speaker 3:
[110:04] And then they go, and I said, what's going on? They're like, he's gone.

Speaker 2:
[110:07] And I was like- No, at that time?

Speaker 3:
[110:08] Yes, they told me and I knew and they wouldn't let me tell you. They said, don't tell him because you were too fragile.

Speaker 2:
[110:15] I thought it was in the morning.

Speaker 3:
[110:16] So I know, I knew he was dead before all you guys. I knew before. So here's the other thing they made me do. The police came, right? Because when someone dies, the police come. And they said, he's dead, but you're going to have to tell his mom, his mom, Virginia, right?

Speaker 2:
[110:29] Yeah. Love you, Virginia.

Speaker 3:
[110:31] So you have to call her, but don't tell her that he's dead. The police told me, they said, we have to do it. So just tell her to come. And I remember I called Virginia and I knew he was dead. And she kept going, is he okay? Is he okay? And I kept saying, I don't know. I don't know. And she was up in Bakersfield.

Speaker 2:
[110:47] No, it was in Modesto.

Speaker 3:
[110:49] Modesto, I'm sorry, Modesto. And she had to drive, what, six hours or however long it is? Five, six hours. And she's calling me while she's driving and she's going, what's going on? What's going on? And I knew he was gone already and I couldn't fucking say anything, dude. It was horrible. Oh my God. It was probably one of the worst days of my life. It was horrible. Like I was so heartbroken and you kept asking about him. And I had to lie to you. And I was like, this is literally the horrible. Okay, so high and dry. Yeah. And I felt like I left you high and dry because I was like, I have to lie. And the cops were like telling me to lie. And they're like, you can't tell them because if they get too distressed, like you could die because your skull was open and they couldn't fix your skull right away because it was something like the brain is swollen.

Speaker 2:
[111:35] They were trying to check to see if they... Because your brain, you have your skull and then you have like a sack.

Speaker 3:
[111:40] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[111:40] And they were hoping, I would have need brain surgery, but the sack didn't break.

Speaker 3:
[111:44] It didn't rip. But they were scared it was going to and your brain was swollen. So they were like, we can't have him stressed. We have to keep him not stressed, just lie to him. And I remember at one point you were laughing and thinking everything was going to be okay before you found out.

Speaker 2:
[111:56] I thought we were going to be in the hospital together. I was like, I was so excited, but I thought because and I probably have said this to you.

Speaker 3:
[112:03] It hit on his side, right? Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[112:06] But what happened was, do you remember? I remember all of it. I can tell you the last thing I said to Angelo before we got hit. So we were on our way to, so we left. So I've talked about before Angelo had beaten cancer, he had gotten back and we had broken up. I go, well, at least I got Ang. I was like, I got Ang and I was like, I'll be happy. And so I went to our old place, picked up my trash bags of clothes, which I couldn't do now. I have way too many clothes, it would be more than a trash bag. And then I went to the new apartment, which I was like, oh God, this place sucks. And I went to go meet Ang at an open mic and he went on stage. And then I went on stage and like vented about the breakup or whatever. And I was using, so I was on, I was on painkillers, but painkillers had nothing to do with this whole situation. I mean, I've done so much shit on painkillers. It was like my normal baseline. And and so then I went on stage and I was very lucky. I got to tell him how much I loved him. You know, I said, I thought Brittany was the love of my life. I was like, Angela, you're the love of my life. I'm so happy to see you. And then we went outside and we laughed and then we were like, let's go get food. And we usually would go to canners. But we thought, let's get let's get fucking Matty Goldberg, because he loved him. And and so we drove we drove to House of Pies and we're driving up Vine. So the last thing the last thing I had with Angela was a laugh. And this is funny. You're going to you're going to hate it, but this is the last thing we said. We're driving up Vine and the Capitol Records building here and Yucca's here.

Speaker 3:
[113:32] We're making fun of Randall.

Speaker 2:
[113:33] Oh, yeah, because that's where fucking Randall lives. And Angela goes, that dude's a fag. And then we're laughing and then we get hit. And that's it.

Speaker 3:
[113:41] And she ran a red light, right?

Speaker 2:
[113:43] She was a guy or a guy. He was going 80 miles an hour. He was running from another accident. And I've forgiven the guy. Like I said it in court. I was like, I was like, dude, I get it. You were scared. You know what I mean? I get it. It's like I get it.

Speaker 3:
[113:55] But he hit the passenger side.

Speaker 2:
[113:57] He hit right out front. He didn't hit on Angela. He hit right in the front of the car. But I only had one seat belt that was working. That's why I was thrown from the car because I went out.

Speaker 3:
[114:07] Was Angus seat belt working? And he always put his seat belt on.

Speaker 2:
[114:10] He didn't know his mind was working. My clicker was working, so he went across to plug his in. The reason Angelo died was he had still he had had that tumor removed. And so his insides were a little sensitive. And so when you get hit in a car accident, you your body shifts because you're going you're still going that speed. I went out the door. My door had that weird latch, remember? And I went out the door and I fucking hit my head on the ground and it's breaking the skull. Ang hits the seat belt. It tightens. Your body goes like that, but your organs still move. And so he ripped whatever the inside was where he had the surgery. And so here and this is like I don't know. I don't want to say this because I'm like I've accepted it. I like bad stuff happens to good people all the time. And Ang is like, you know, every there's so much good like Ang still how much I still think of him all the time every day.

Speaker 3:
[115:01] He would have been so wonderful.

Speaker 2:
[115:03] He would have been the one we would have made millions of dollars together. He was the he was everything I wanted and I was everything he wanted. We were just so connected. Like I it's it's it's like you have like regardless of the love we had. There's like the connection that him and I had.

Speaker 3:
[115:20] It was like we just finished the best.

Speaker 2:
[115:23] He was the best. And and I still do at the jam in Austin. You know, I said something I forget which I was like, I don't know what song it was, but I sang it and then or something. And I was like, this is an Angelo joke. And then I said it and the crowd laughed and I said, I said, I still I'll do it all the time. He's like, watch his clips. There's not much, but you can see the genius.

Speaker 3:
[115:44] He was so smart.

Speaker 2:
[115:44] And I always tell people one of his jokes. I say, they say never say people. I'll say this is the funniest guy. And they go, all right. And I go, who would be the next David Tell? They're like, all right. I go, I'll tell you one of his jokes. They say never say somebody's joke. But then I say one of my favorites, he goes, My dad used to say, there's no I and you need to play football faggot.

Speaker 3:
[116:03] And it always gets a fucking laugh every time he read off of the piece of paper. And it was just the driest, funniest delivery. It was so good.

Speaker 2:
[116:12] Oh, he stayed on her couch because he he didn't want to work. He wanted to wander the earth.

Speaker 3:
[116:19] He did.

Speaker 2:
[116:19] He was like a radio.

Speaker 3:
[116:20] He walked everywhere.

Speaker 2:
[116:21] He was OK computer. He was like, he was like, this life is meaningless.

Speaker 3:
[116:25] And he wore a backpack and he walked everywhere and he carried a big thing of water.

Speaker 2:
[116:27] Huge co-ops, which made you jealous. And he had a giant cock.

Speaker 3:
[116:31] Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[116:32] Like a fucking horse deck.

Speaker 3:
[116:33] I do remember he did. He had a horse deck.

Speaker 2:
[116:36] Byron once, when he was living in my place or when I was staying in my place, one time he would be he was masturbating on his pictures of Gretchen.

Speaker 3:
[116:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[116:43] And like Byron, like he's about to walk in the house and had that little window that looked in the room. He just saw Angela's huge cock out and he's like jerk, jerk, jerk, picks up the phone, jerk, jerk, jerk, jerk. It's dude, God bless his soul. But like I said, it's like I you know, this is that bad stuff. I mean, the more you talk to people, mine just happened to be out in public and to see the community in stand up, like shut down. Like it was devastating because he was so loved and no one know what to do. And him dying, much like when Brody Stevens died. And that's why I'm so happy, you know, to bring up Jelly Roll. It's like, dude, I remember one night on the tour, he was just he changed my life financially and so many different ways, not just that, you know, but he paid me way more than I deserved. And the moral of the story is, is like, I remember how heavy he was. And I was like, I'm one night, he was, we doing a toast and then all these people, I started crying because I'm like, I was like, he's going to die. He's like 600 pounds because the universe always takes the good ones. They come here, they do good. And then they always pull, they never, it's like that. My buddy, I was at Carill, it's his assholes live forever. It's the truth that, you know, they always live forever. But what is good about it is like is like the jam. And dude, I made my production logo, you know, Road Dog Entertainment. That's my LLC. The podcast, it was, it was, you know, because it took six years of like doing the jam was taking off. I was a fucking junkie, a junkie. I sold my show on OxyGun. I mean, but, and I'm very lucky that I had to buy.

Speaker 3:
[118:14] I'm surprised you didn't blow all your money on drugs. I'm proud of you.

Speaker 2:
[118:16] I blew the benefit money on drugs, all the benefit money that they gave me. But dude, what am I supposed to do? There's no instructions of how to handle something that you go through. And you know, I, my mom gave me money for a car and I got insurance money. And people thought I spent all the money on that fucking Cadillac. And I was like, dude, no, I was like, but also like everybody thought because of the drugs, I was OK. They were like, dude, everybody, I had 500 visitors. I remember the staff at Cedar Side and I thought I was this huge celebrity. And because, dude, every day it was just it was really beautiful. But then when I got out, because of the drugs, I felt great. And I was doing spots and then and then everybody just slowly stopped calling. And then I was alone. And then, you know, I sobered up, you know, big ups to Julia Levater because I told her and she was so sweet and helped me out. And I got through it. And then, you know, then I was got to a place, I started the jam. And because I never worked on it, I never worked on the pain that I was still carrying, the survivor's guilt, because that's a real fucking thing. I when I'm when the jam started taking off, I mean, immediately, because all the industry in Hollywood just was there. And I felt like I didn't deserve it. I felt it was like it's like I'm addict. So it's like I have a raging ego, but I feel like a piece of shit. And and so I just like I mean, every jam from December 2014 until May of 2016. I mean, I was loaded. I felt great. And and then I cleaned up.

Speaker 3:
[119:44] When did you clean up?

Speaker 2:
[119:46] May 16, 2016.

Speaker 3:
[119:49] And you don't use any of that stuff anymore?

Speaker 2:
[119:51] No, I haven't had anything. I mean, dude, it's a funny story. When I was in Munich, I broke my wrist. I fell off a scooter.

Speaker 1:
[119:59] We were riding my scooters because jelly has a strong weed. And I was like, I'll take it. And riding around, my whole point was to like find landmarks. He wanted to see everything. So I go, I was like, oh, the beer hall pooch. And I show him, hey, dude, the beer hall pooch. It's like where the Nazi party started. He goes, why are we here? And I'm like, it's a famous landmark. Because give us the Nazis. I go, it doesn't matter. I'm not talking about Nazi. It's a famous thing. And I go, it's kind of like going to like where the Beatles did their final performance on the rooftop. He goes, are you comparing the Beatles to Hitler? I'm like, not them, but the thing. It's a it's a landmark. And then I and then we're like, they laugh about it. And I go, trust me, I think it's apt. I think I like this shit. And then I go, all right, let's take off. And then right in front, I see a guy jump the curb on a bike. But I thought it was a ramp. I'm so high, so I go at it like 20 kilometers an hour and I flip over and I pull my wrist back and I thought I sprained it. And then the next morning, I wake up at 6 a.m. in the worst pain of my life and I call the downstairs, they call me a cab and we're leaving at noon. So I have to be at lobby call and be on a flight at like one o'clock. And so I go to the hospital, which is not, I remember it was so funny. They were like, I was like, dude, it's going to be busy. So fucking turn it into Daniel Day-Lewis. And I walk in like, yeah, it's empty. And I'm like, hey, I think I hurt my wrist. Can I get in there? Daniel Day-Lewis, I'm dead. The woman goes, this is the best part. The woman goes, she goes, have you taken a painkiller yet? And I'm like, no, but now I'm in pain. So I'm like, all right, what am I about to get? She goes, here's some ibuprofen.

Speaker 2:
[121:24] Here's a Tylenol, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[121:26] And I go, ibuprofen.

Speaker 2:
[121:27] Someone must have told them that you were fucking addict.

Speaker 1:
[121:29] No, no, no, that's what they give. They don't give opiates like that.

Speaker 2:
[121:31] That's not true.

Speaker 1:
[121:32] Just in Germany.

Speaker 2:
[121:33] They know your history, don't they?

Speaker 1:
[121:34] Let me finish the story. So she gives me ibuprofen. I'm like, this isn't gonna work. It worked. It worked.

Speaker 2:
[121:39] I feel like someone on that team was probably like, no, there was nobody in the team there.

Speaker 1:
[121:42] It was me by myself. They didn't have any of my charts. They couldn't accept my insurance.

Speaker 2:
[121:47] Well, I'm really proud of you for staying clean.

Speaker 1:
[121:48] And so she gives me an ibuprofen. I go, it works. I go, I wish I would have known this fucking worked. I want to fucking had 16 years of crippling opiate addiction.

Speaker 2:
[121:54] Bro, you were so bad.

Speaker 1:
[121:56] I wasn't. There's people way worse. But my buddy did once say the guy sold me drugs. He goes, I know the only person that took opiates more than you was was Corey Hain.

Speaker 2:
[122:05] And I remember you driving downtown.

Speaker 1:
[122:08] I used to go. It was downtown comedy club. My first dealer was at the Cecil and then the fucking Cecil Hotel. And he was in the documentary. He was in the documentary. I did. You ever see one of your friends in a commercial? You're like, oh, my God, it's Frank.

Speaker 2:
[122:23] There's my drug dealer. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[122:24] It's gay album with the bad kidneys.

Speaker 2:
[122:26] And then anyway, glad you're not on opiates.

Speaker 1:
[122:29] You know, I'll never go back. I know what I can't do. I can't drink. I can't do coke. I can't. Because I was drinking during I was drinking during Europe, having lager and wine. And I was being very responsible, very responsible. Dude, I mean it. Responsible. Like I didn't get drunk. I was like, oh, my God, maybe I grew out of this. And then I came back to America and I got depressed. And then I started drinking. And then I did. And then I was like, how do I get rid of this? I was like, give myself a hangover. And I did coke. That being said, if you're out there and I know I talked about him a lot, watch the little clips. And if there's a person that you love in your life, tell them you love them, because you might never be able to do it.

Speaker 2:
[123:02] Life is short, guys. Go after what you want and love who you want. And don't be fucking scared to tell people you love them. And, you know, be and be cool with people. Like if you can always end on a good note with people, it's better than having animosity and hate in your heart.

Speaker 1:
[123:16] Let's be a good person, be Angela, be Carrie. We all have egos, we all, but just like, your ego's not your amigo. And just love people, and put love first, and just have fun with what you do. Let's wrap this shit up. This is so great. All right.

Speaker 2:
[123:32] Gen X is the best generation. Your ego's not your amigo. That's some fucking Gen X shit right there.

Speaker 1:
[123:43] So what I think we got to do is I'm going to do these five little facts, and we'll do final questions. This is some interesting things about this record.

Speaker 2:
[123:52] My husband's like, are you dead?

Speaker 1:
[123:53] No.

Speaker 2:
[123:55] No, he is. Wait, hang on. Oh, he's out. I sent Tommy a picture of you and I, and he said, whose dad is that?

Speaker 1:
[124:11] Alright, alright fucking Boomer. He's a fucking Boomer.

Speaker 2:
[124:15] He said, whose dad is that? Oh, my God. Tommy Land, the ride is out right now, you guys. Tom York was on Apple Music.

Speaker 1:
[124:24] We'll play it. We'll play it for you. Tom York was deeply uncomfortable with fame during this era. The band nearly broke up from all that pressure. Thank God they didn't. They're just playing the music. They're just playing the music. Fans debate.

Speaker 2:
[124:38] My pussy is the bridge between grunge and art rock.

Speaker 1:
[124:40] It's grunge. My dick is art rock. I don't think the fan debate you can even make anything. Some people, I would be curious to all the listeners if you've stuck around this long. We've stuck around about the first hour and a half of us talking about relationships.

Speaker 2:
[124:54] What's his name? Rick in Illinois?

Speaker 1:
[124:56] We have more than one. I'm dead.

Speaker 2:
[124:58] I'm crying.

Speaker 1:
[124:58] We have more than one. But they say, I'm curious. I'm curious if you like this record more than OK Computer. OK Computer means more to me. I do think it's a better record. I think it's better songwriting. I love any band that keeps reaching. And I think Kid A, I'm so excited to break that record down. Don't worry, it won't be with Brittany. No, that's not like an insult.

Speaker 2:
[125:19] Breakdown, just break down my fucking self on this podcast. Have a mental breakdown. No, it was great.

Speaker 1:
[125:26] This is so fun. I mean it, dude, I don't get this excited.

Speaker 2:
[125:30] We've known each other so long, of course it's great. I just feel like it's so personal. I hope people get it. Cause it's like, we're talking about such personal stuff, like to us, you know?

Speaker 1:
[125:38] I think they're gonna love it.

Speaker 2:
[125:39] Like to us, it's like, yeah, it's us. It's our life, you know, but.

Speaker 1:
[125:43] And also this has been voted, like in the NME, that Street Spirit was considered and voted as one of the most depressing songs ever recorded. I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[125:51] Hell yeah.

Speaker 1:
[125:52] I think...

Speaker 2:
[125:53] I'm a street spirit.

Speaker 1:
[125:55] I mean, you know, we didn't talk about it. I wanted to ask you about you getting together with Tommy. I'm just so happy that you found him, man. I love you. And I mean it. Like I, when I saw you put up that first post, I was like, cause it's the same thing. When I found out, I didn't talk to Tess in a while. And then I was like, where have you been? Cause I sent her all these messages, but she had changed her number. And I remember she's like, well, you know, I know you really loved her. She's so sweet. She's the dude. She was, regardless of if she was doing what she was doing, she was one of the sweetest human beings I've ever met. And she was so selfless. And she would, when we were taking off, she paid for all the band's flights, never wanted money back, she would be the first person to pick up a check. And I remember the night that I got it, we were just like cooking up and fucking. Like some girl that was about to throw up at, or threw up at Kanner's and she ran out of the table and just went up to help her. She didn't know this person. And so when I finally got in touch with her, when I got in touch with her, she, I was like, you know, where are you? She's like, I'm about to move to Michigan, you know, with my boyfriend. And I was like, good. I love that.

Speaker 2:
[126:53] Maybe you guys will rekindle at some point.

Speaker 1:
[126:55] If they do, great.

Speaker 2:
[126:56] She's in Michigan with a boyfriend right now.

Speaker 1:
[126:58] I think so.

Speaker 2:
[126:59] And she's she's not online or anything. She's offline.

Speaker 1:
[127:03] She barely was online anymore. She's not doing she. She didn't deactivate her OnlyFans, but she's not not posting. But there are Indian guys that love titties that are still paying the 12.99 a month.

Speaker 2:
[127:14] See it.

Speaker 1:
[127:15] Dude, they I still get messages like this. What is Tessa? I swear to God. Oh, yeah. Because they knew we dated. That being said, that being said, it's it's like, dude, I root for the people I love. I'm so happy you're you're doing great. I'm so happy that you guys found each other. And please come back. We'll have you back again. For Mark's sake, we'll end it after we do final questions. Promote away. What do you have coming up?

Speaker 2:
[127:40] Oh, God. I mean, I'm just doing stand up again. I'm so happy to be back on the scene. I'm you know, I'm just performing locally. And, you know, like people are always like, oh, you're going to tour or whatever. I mean, I go on tour with Motley and I just it's such a fucking insane thing to be on tour with them. And it's so fast and we're just in and out of everywhere that I don't really have time to like, you know, do shows. And then like I'd have to do shows on the nights that we have shows and I just too much. I need to be there with Tommy. So I just, you know, guys, I just do it for fun for me. And if you're in LA, like I perform in LA like every week. So I just, you know, I'm happy to be back at that and get out of the house a little bit. And, you know, I sell my jewelry, I make jewelry, I have my OnlyFans for fun because I love being a little fucking exhibitionist.

Speaker 1:
[128:18] You're odd too, get your fucking money.

Speaker 2:
[128:19] Yeah, I'm like get my bag.

Speaker 1:
[128:20] You donate some of it too. Like you donate it to like...

Speaker 2:
[128:22] The animal shelters. I'm like really obsessed with dogs and everyone that knows me. There's a big donation thing on my OnlyFans page where you can see all the good that we've done with it and we've done a lot of good. I saved a bat, a little baby bat.

Speaker 1:
[128:34] I used to fucking remember people when you started really taking off and people were like, that's all her boobs and she's fake.

Speaker 2:
[128:40] Everyone says that still.

Speaker 1:
[128:41] I'm like, dude.

Speaker 2:
[128:42] Everyone says my body's fake. I'm like, my face, I've definitely done stuff to, but not my body, not below my neck. But yeah, people are haters anyway. It's all good. Lekka.

Speaker 1:
[128:51] Lekka's not. Isn't she the best?

Speaker 2:
[128:53] Oh, she looks great.

Speaker 1:
[128:54] Hit me.

Speaker 2:
[128:57] Anyway, no one cares. I don't need to be seen anywhere. No one needs to follow me. I don't really give a shit. So I've been on the Internet for too fucking long. I should probably log off.

Speaker 1:
[129:06] I mean, you're one of the most talented people I know.

Speaker 2:
[129:09] Thanks, Josh.

Speaker 1:
[129:09] I think you do anything you apply yourself to. And I'm excited to see you with the next shit when you... Thanks.

Speaker 2:
[129:13] I mean, hopefully, I want... My goal in life is to just be in a Ryan Murphy show at one point, even if it's just the smallest role. I'm just such a big fan of his work. You know, Ryan Murphy is creator of American Horror Story and all the amazing other things he's done. Like, you know, he just did the show The Beauty on FX. And he's just so talented. He's just so... He's such a visionary. And he's someone that like that would be like a goal. Like, I'm like, that's my one goal. That's my last goal.

Speaker 1:
[129:36] You loved American Horror Story and we were watching it together. When we broke up, I was like, fuck that show. Fuck America. I've never watched another episode. It was our thing. We watched that.

Speaker 2:
[129:46] I loved American Horror Story.

Speaker 1:
[129:47] Harry Potter and Deathly Hallows, too.

Speaker 2:
[129:49] I don't like Harry Potter.

Speaker 1:
[129:50] We did go. We remember that we went. That was when we were trying to save the relationship. We went to see Harry Potter together. We never saw anyone before.

Speaker 2:
[129:56] I don't think we even really liked it.

Speaker 1:
[129:57] We loved it. No, we loved it.

Speaker 2:
[129:58] OK, I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[129:59] Do you remember the hardest laugh when we went to go see the other guys? Oh, yeah, that was... I don't think I ever laughed harder with you. That was so great.

Speaker 2:
[130:07] That was fun. Wow, you have such a good memory.

Speaker 1:
[130:09] We have so... Dude, I have so many great memories and I'm so glad that we continue to be friends.

Speaker 2:
[130:14] I'm so happy to be here with my friends, of course.

Speaker 1:
[130:17] Let's do the final questions. We'll get you out of here. We ask everybody that.

Speaker 2:
[130:20] OK.

Speaker 1:
[130:21] These questions that we're about to ask. One, what is your favorite song on this album?

Speaker 2:
[130:27] My favorite song on this album? God, that's so hard.

Speaker 1:
[130:34] God, pick one.

Speaker 2:
[130:34] Maybe I'd say Fake Plastic Trees.

Speaker 1:
[130:37] It's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[130:37] Because it's just like such a melodic, like sad song. And I relate to it so much. And it just like that's the one I used to really fucking cut.

Speaker 1:
[130:48] Cut to. All right. I would say I'm going to say definitely Planetellix. I love that. But I love Fake Plastic Trees. I love Street Spirit. I think this is a perfect record. I think I just love I just I love this record. It takes me right back to when I first fucking heard it. Is this a no skip or is there a song that you're just not attracted to? It could be something that's popular.

Speaker 2:
[131:09] I do skip.

Speaker 1:
[131:10] I skip High and Dry because I've heard it so much.

Speaker 2:
[131:13] Yeah, it's kind of worn out.

Speaker 1:
[131:14] Sometimes it doesn't mean it's the worst song on the record.

Speaker 2:
[131:16] Actually, you know what? No, because I can just put Radiohead, I think even with pretty much any of their albums, I can just put it on and just play it and I don't need to skip. I love the vibe. I feel like it takes you on a journey. You're a full album man, for sure. I don't skip. There's so many other bands where I'm like, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. But for them, I'm like, no, I fuck with the vibe. I fuck with the journey they take you on. 100 percent. It's such a journey. It's a melodic journey from start to finish.

Speaker 1:
[131:43] 100 percent. Can you fuck to this record?

Speaker 2:
[131:47] Oh my God, I'll try.

Speaker 1:
[131:48] Who are you and Tommy fucked to?

Speaker 2:
[131:50] We don't play music. No, we literally-

Speaker 1:
[131:52] Like your Jeffrey Dahmer style.

Speaker 2:
[131:54] No, he just-

Speaker 1:
[131:54] I want to hear you breathing.

Speaker 2:
[131:56] No, it's usually like we're in bed in the middle of the night, and he'll just roll over and be like, babe, I got a bone. I'm like, all right, let's go. I've never turned him down, never will. He's the best. He's got a beautiful dick.

Speaker 1:
[132:08] I know, I've seen it many times.

Speaker 2:
[132:09] Everyone's seen it. I'm not breaking the Internet by saying this, but he has like, I mean, guys usually have sometimes crazy looking dicks, but he's got like a model dick.

Speaker 1:
[132:21] He's got like Tess's version of tits.

Speaker 2:
[132:23] They've already seen it. Yeah, yeah. Tess has got like crazy knockers. Tommy has like a beautiful, very handsome penis. They're not just crazy.

Speaker 1:
[132:28] They're very handsome titties, but then they take the bra off and they fall. Yeah, they turn into those fish bags you used to got at the fair. She has perfect tits.

Speaker 2:
[132:37] Her's are huge.

Speaker 1:
[132:38] And I'll say this about Tommy. Tommy has a perfect dick.

Speaker 2:
[132:41] That shit could wear like a tuxedo. It's so like nice, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[132:45] What a fucking great, you know, have the world know that.

Speaker 2:
[132:49] Yeah, and he loves it too.

Speaker 1:
[132:51] Oh, I know. I remember you trying to promote the tour and he stuck his dick out of his bands. I can't believe you don't fuck the music.

Speaker 2:
[132:57] Really? Because it's like, we'll be both. It's like usually like in the middle of the night, like we're both like asleep or sleeping and he'll like be like, we'll both roll over and like kind of like, you know, we've been together for 10 years. It's not like we like put on fucking music and light candles.

Speaker 1:
[133:11] He's also how old is he?

Speaker 2:
[133:14] Yeah, but he's still killing it. He's like, no, I know his vibe is so young and like in person. If you see him, like people don't ever believe I was.

Speaker 1:
[133:21] Yeah, he's never because I always say, like, man, I'm so worried. Like, you know, my clothes, I'm like, am I like too old? Is forty six years old to wear? And and it's not age is nothing but a number.

Speaker 2:
[133:33] And he's mad fit. Oh, he looks like Tommy is fucking cut and lean and like his lean muscle. And he's just like a thin fit guy. Like he doesn't have any kind of belly or fucking gross shit or anything. He's fucking skinny.

Speaker 1:
[133:44] Always look good.

Speaker 2:
[133:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[133:46] I'm not going to say the joke I was going to do there. I'll tell you off stage.

Speaker 2:
[133:49] OK.

Speaker 1:
[133:50] It's not about I am, it's not about I am, don't worry. But I had a funny.

Speaker 2:
[133:53] OK.

Speaker 1:
[133:54] Never mind. I'll tell you off stage. It's really it's funny. I think it's funny. I'll tell you the preface of what I hear in my head. What would be your elevator pitch? Like final thoughts on this record to get someone that's never listened to the radio, the radio, Radiohead, The Bends. How would you get somebody that's never listened to it to be able to listen to it?

Speaker 2:
[134:12] That they've never listened to it?

Speaker 1:
[134:14] Yeah, I'm saying what's your elevator pitch? Doesn't that be long-winded?

Speaker 2:
[134:17] OK, I would say, hey, do you have depression? Do you like to sit there in your depression and wallow in your depression and have music that comforts you when you're depressed? You should play Radiohead, The Bends, and sit there in a dark place and it'll be really fucking enjoyable. I don't know. I mean, like, literally, it's like when you want. But you say it doesn't make you depressed. For me, like when I really want to, like, be sad and be in my sadness, I listen to Radiohead because I just feel like it's like it's almost like a happy sadness. It's like a comfortable sadness.

Speaker 1:
[134:48] I've never gotten sad listening to Radiohead.

Speaker 2:
[134:49] I'm like emotional. So like the music makes me emotional.

Speaker 1:
[134:52] But I cry a lot for music. I cry, dude. There's that girl, Rae. I like love her music. Amy Winehouse makes me cry. Nat King Cole starred us. We talked about all of this. Vincent by Don McLean. Claire de Lune by Claude Debussay, one of my favorite songs. All the songs, one thing I like, I fucking love. And now Rae, I can't listen to her record without crying. You should check it. I think you dig it. My final thoughts for everybody is this is the Benz. It's an album about anxiety, identity, and realizing that success doesn't fix anything.

Speaker 2:
[135:24] Wow, that could be my autobiography.

Speaker 1:
[135:27] I'm not done yet, I'm not done yet, it gets better. It just gives your problems better lighting. It's Radiohead figuring out who they are. They're one of the most respected bands in the industry. You want to want to know why and how it started. Pablo Ani is not the way to start. This is where you start because it's beautiful, but also in a very British way. But honestly, and I wrote this too, having you here, it feels almost appropriate because like this album, our relationship had emotional highs, confusing lows, moments of brilliance and at least one part where nobody knew what the hell was going on, me on drugs. But that's what makes art great. And I think that's what makes relationships great.

Speaker 2:
[136:07] I still hit her on the head, for lack of a better word.

Speaker 1:
[136:10] She loves me a bit.

Speaker 2:
[136:10] Yeah, that was crazy. What a fucking two and a half hour podcast. I'm not done. All right.

Speaker 1:
[136:15] Can I finish my? This is what the fans wait for.

Speaker 2:
[136:18] Three hours.

Speaker 1:
[136:19] No, it's not three hours. Yes, it is. We started at eight. No, we didn't start at eight. What time are we at? Two and a half.

Speaker 2:
[136:24] OK, OK.

Speaker 1:
[136:25] Trust me. Listen, Mark, I'll throw you extra cash.

Speaker 2:
[136:28] You're the George Lucas of podcasts.

Speaker 1:
[136:30] I know you have to edit this. I'm going to do the intro very quickly. But this is I don't get to see you that often.

Speaker 2:
[136:35] I know.

Speaker 1:
[136:35] And I don't forget.

Speaker 2:
[136:36] It's so good to see you.

Speaker 1:
[136:37] If anybody is still listening, which I know they are. This is great.

Speaker 2:
[136:41] You put it on YouTube. I'll share it.

Speaker 1:
[136:42] But I want to say this in closing. I mean, I've been talking about the relationship. That's what makes great art. It's like and great relationships. It's like they don't have to make sense. They just have to make you feel something. And in the bends, it makes you feel everything, whether you like it or not. And I can't thank you enough for coming on.

Speaker 2:
[137:01] I'm just happy to be here, Josh. I love you.

Speaker 1:
[137:04] Yay.

Speaker 2:
[137:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[137:07] Let's end it there. What did I tell you? What did I tell you? The one and only Brittany Furlan who still might be sitting right there. Follow her on Instagram at Brittany Furlan. Your website, Brittany furlan.com.

Speaker 2:
[137:16] I have a link tree. If you just look up Brittany Furlan's link tree, it's all you'll find it.

Speaker 1:
[137:19] Go to her. Go to her Instagram. You'll find everything. Yeah, the links in the bio on Instagram and just like follower. You know, she got an incredible life. She's an incredible person. Subscribe to her OnlyFans, dude. She gives money to to the fucking ASPCA, to puppies and stuff. Now we just listened to Radiohead from 1995. We had somebody that DistroKid picked. And I have to tell Alex this because he doesn't know it, but we are going to be playing Tommy Land by her husband, Tommy Lee, which is available right now on all formats. Spotify, physical, wherever we can get it. Tommy Lee is one of the coolest dudes. I was able to meet him and play with him before. So happy she's married to him and he's an incredible musician. I know how much I love Motley Crue. So support her, support him. Tommy Land will be our song. I gotta call Alex. And you can find links to the music on our website, the500podcast.com. If you are in a band and you were directly influenced by one of these albums or artists and you want your music played on the 500s, send us your song to 500podcast.gmail.com and put the album and artists that influenced you in the subject line next week. Ooh, it's a goodie. I recorded it today right before this one. It's 110, The Velvet Underground, Loaded. This is the record where I get it about The Velvet Underground. That's a warning. It's going to be a goodie. I'm not going to barely tell you the guest, but we're going to post the picture because I'm going to do it. Alrighty, because I did it today. It's awesome. So much fun. Thank you for tuning in. Do your homework. We'll see you soon.

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