transcript

Speaker 1:
[00:00] Okay, so growing up, I was very much a why are we doing travel the hardest way possible kid? Like piling into the car, stopping at questionable hotels, my mom trying to make everything feel magical while we were absolutely exhausted. And honestly, if something like Outdoorsy had existed back then, it would have changed everything. Because Outdoorsy basically makes it insanely easy to rent an RV or camper without owning one. You just search for your one near you, and there are thousands nationwide. Pick what fits for your trip in Bookit. Insurance is included. There's 24-7 support, roadside assistance. It's not giving chaos, it's giving control. And the part that really gets me, you don't even have to drive it if you don't want to. You can tow it or have it delivered and fully set up at your destination. Like imagine showing up to a family reunion, a lake trip, a music festival, and your whole space is already there. Because let's be honest, Summer 2026 is about to be mayhem. You've got the huge international soccer tournament happening across North America. Route 66 turning 100. Hotels are going to be booked. Prices are going to be wild. And RV isn't just how you get there. It's how you stay close to everything without the stress. So if you're planning anything with friends, family, even pets, go check it out. And use promo code BLINDS to have all service fees removed from your booking in 2026. Honestly, childhood me would have loved this. You guys, welcome to another Reality TV Corner. As always, it's me, Kelli Williams.

Speaker 2:
[01:49] And Troy McEady.

Speaker 1:
[01:50] And I guess we should just start with Summer House because the editors are doing their thing. I don't know if you thought it was confirmed by Andy that editors are kind of going back and shifting up the storylines a bit. And I feel like last night it was very heavy handed.

Speaker 2:
[02:07] Yeah, in a good way though. I liked it too.

Speaker 1:
[02:10] I don't get when people are like, this whole affair thing has ruined the whole season. I'm like, it's made it way more fun for me.

Speaker 2:
[02:17] Yeah, it's added such an it like now it's so much more interesting to watch. Like everything being in hindsight is just like crazy. Yeah, I think it's so much more interesting now that we know we can like clock their weird be like Amanda and West's behavior is insane.

Speaker 1:
[02:38] It's so crazy last week when she like decided to jump on his bed when he was like trying to hook up with some the day bed or whatever. And she's like, and look at my ass as I walk away. I'm like, what an odd thing to say.

Speaker 2:
[02:52] And like how mad she was about that and like trying to use Sierra as like a you heard it's like I'm so angry that you hurt her.

Speaker 1:
[03:01] Really angry enough to not go the following weekend.

Speaker 2:
[03:06] How crazy?

Speaker 1:
[03:07] That's all I could think. And at first I was like, she's kind of sounded sick. And then on the FaceTime with Sierra, she was like, I just can't do it this weekend.

Speaker 2:
[03:16] Like I can't bring myself to, I can't handle it emotionally. Like, you have the editors are like doing their big one. This the end of the season. Like there was another really cryptic moment where I don't remember who it was that said it, but they were talking about West. Oh, it was Jesse. When Jesse said like, I don't know, he doesn't learn. It's like, dude, like you were in the dog house already. Like, why are you doing this again? Like I couldn't believe, it was like his words were just like, oh my God, you're never gonna believe what that will mean one day.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] I know Jesse Solomon, I will never have a full like good read on him. Cause there are moments where I'm like, I cannot stand this man, get him off my screen. But the last few episodes I've been like, he's not as bad as I think.

Speaker 2:
[03:59] Yeah, I know. I know, same. I'm his biggest hater. And I was like, all right. Jesse's not been so bad for these last couple episodes. I think because he's like, his fire is kind of put out. Like, it's like the whole Sierra thing now, he can't really engage in it in the same way.

Speaker 1:
[04:18] He has no storyline now that he can't have a fake crush on Sierra.

Speaker 2:
[04:22] Exactly. So now he just is like being his actual self, it seems.

Speaker 1:
[04:27] I see a lot of people like talking shit about Dara, KJ's now girlfriend.

Speaker 2:
[04:32] Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 1:
[04:34] And like, at first, I was kind of like, I do feel like she came in kind of hot, but then I was like, she's also part of the cast photo. So she was always meant to be a cast member. She just started dating KJ. So I like Dara now. I apologize if I've ever said anything negative about Dara on this podcast. Now I'm like, she's a Virgo. She's cool.

Speaker 2:
[04:53] She's cool. And I think that she was a little heavy hand. But that's a common thing with this cast, is people coming in and trying really hard to involve themselves in a way. They want to be a part of the cast. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[05:11] Yeah. We see it with Sabrina, Ben's girlfriend, who reminds me, I need to show you the picture of the girl she reminds me of. She reminds me of like this random character that used to be on Malcolm in the Middle. And it was like his weird friend who I think he had a crush on.

Speaker 2:
[05:29] Oh my God. Wow. Wow.

Speaker 1:
[05:30] They're like the same person to me.

Speaker 2:
[05:32] Yeah. They have the same face. That's so funny. I haven't looked at a photo of that young lady since my youth.

Speaker 1:
[05:40] But you recognize her.

Speaker 2:
[05:42] Yeah. I understand. I get where you're going. I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Speaker 1:
[05:45] But yeah, Ben with her, Ben just seems so lame. I want Ben out of the house. I hope he doesn't come back. Where are my girls, Bailey and Levi? I'm also sick of Summer House like casting people, then like editing them out halfway through the season. It's like, just don't have them on then.

Speaker 2:
[06:01] He is such a nothing sandwich. He is like two pieces of Wonder Bread with just air between. There's just no substance. There's nothing to bite into. He is so fucking boring. And just when I thought he couldn't get more boring, he like went really heavy handed on being boring. It's like, do you really think that I don't care that you're not going out one night? I literally don't give a fuck about anything going on with you at all.

Speaker 1:
[06:24] No, and he doesn't seem like fun with his girlfriend. He seems like, no, what was it? Last week when they were in the kitchen, she was kind of laughing and he was like, why are you laughing at me? I'm bad with my, you know this.

Speaker 2:
[06:35] Yeah. I'm opening up to you.

Speaker 1:
[06:39] I see people calling him strict and I'm like, that's the perfect word for Ben. He is so strict.

Speaker 2:
[06:44] Yeah. He gives Sleeping With The Enemy vibes. Like if you, if anybody listening to this, who's ever seen the Julia Roberts movie, Sleeping With The Enemy, it's like in the movie, her husband is like psychotically particular and every can has to be like arranged and he'll notice when things are a little off. That's what he gives to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:01] Ick. I don't like it at all.

Speaker 2:
[07:03] I don't like it. No. Like, ugh. I'm very pro Carl and Bailey. Are they still doing a thing right now in real life?

Speaker 1:
[07:11] They seem to be. They seem to be hanging out, having fun. I think that's fun. What did you think of the scene last night between West and Sierra, where Sierra is finally like, okay, let's just sit down and have a conversation. Other outside of the fact that production obviously put like horror music in the background when it was like, I squealing violin. But what did you think of that conversation?

Speaker 2:
[07:38] If I'm being completely honest, I was just like, this is... I was thinking to myself, if I was in that house, this would be the most exhausting thing in my life.

Speaker 1:
[07:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:49] Having to like watch them do this again. Like, and I guess I just now, obviously, like you said, looking at it through a different lens, it's like, he just is so obsessed with trying to use her as a fucking storyline. She's the only thing that makes him interesting. And I thought it was crazy that she said, because we talked about this and I had said to you, like, I don't think he sees her as like a full human.

Speaker 1:
[08:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:19] Like, he just sees her as a conquest. And like, then she said it. It's like, yeah, like you, he doesn't see her as an actual human being. Like, it's like, he, I don't know if it was, if it's because she's a black girl and he can't in his mind, like, visualize a life, an actual life with her. Whereas like with Amanda, he can romanticize an actual life with her. And Ciara would just be a conquest. Like, I had sex with this really hot black model. But I don't think that he could ever even imagine a world where he's like with Ciara, whereas Amanda, he can't.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] I fully agree. And when he said like out loud, like I resented you, I was like, that should be the end of it. And I feel really bad because I am someone who's given people like more chances probably than they should have. And I can see Ciara as that person. But like during this conversation, he barely even looked at her. And the whole time I was like, he hates her. And I feel like she loves him or has some kind of love there.

Speaker 2:
[09:25] He hates her for humiliating him, I think, and he's punishing her.

Speaker 1:
[09:29] Yeah, for ruining his time to shine on Bravo.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] Yeah. And like making him look emasculated and, you know, like I think that he really has a lot of resentment towards her. The fact that she flirted with Jessie and made him feel inadequate. Like, yeah, it's really crazy. It's crazy when a man who works so hard at coming off as like kind and funny and down-to-earth and sweet and silly and and you see their true side.

Speaker 1:
[10:04] Yeah, totally. And again, him not looking at her, I was like, that tells me literally everything I need to know.

Speaker 2:
[10:11] Yeah, there was a girl on TikTok that was talking about Summer House. I don't remember what account it was, but I remember her saying like, do you guys realize when West is talking, like normally he's like quick and he can like get his words out and he's funny and blah, blah, blah. But then when he's lying, he does that stuttering Stanley bullshit where he's like, I have a hard time expressing my, it's like, no, you're just not quick at lying. It takes you out. Like I am looking at you calculate lies in your head. Like you're not slick.

Speaker 1:
[10:44] Not at all. And also that like weird hug with him and Amanda at that dog thing.

Speaker 2:
[10:48] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[10:50] He like kissed her cheek and she held him for another minute. And watching those two chat, like in, I don't know, they were setting up what a banner or something. And Kyle went to buy them beers. I was like, Amanda loves West. The way that Amanda looks at West is how Amanda looked at Kyle pre like the 17 page email. So like season two.

Speaker 2:
[11:12] She's, yeah. She can't hide it.

Speaker 1:
[11:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:16] She can't hide it. And it's so crazy watching her try and have these conversations where she's like talking about Sierra, just using Sierra as like a talking point.

Speaker 1:
[11:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:24] But really being like, you pissed me off because you were flirting with that girl in front of me.

Speaker 1:
[11:29] It's also so crazy because I guess when we first got the DM about Amanda in West, I was like, well, Amanda and Sierra aren't close like that because I always thought like their closeness was because of Paige. I guess I just didn't think Amanda and Sierra were close. But now that I'm watching again, I'm like, oh, my God, like Sierra was really there for Amanda during all this and Amanda seemed to be there for Sierra. It's just so sick to watch.

Speaker 2:
[11:57] And isn't it so crazy how performative Amanda's? Like the way that Amanda is empathetic to Sierra feels so fake and the way that Sierra is empathetic to her feels so genuine and so heartfelt. And like, I mean, when she started crying because she was like, you deserve more, I was like, God, like, Amanda would never do that. I mean, even her talking to West about it, like it felt so performative.

Speaker 1:
[12:28] So weird. It's like, do you get a lobotomy? I mean, what the is going on? And I also just have to say, I'm sick of people. And Sierra kind of said this in her, was it Marie Claire interview that she just did where she was like, West is a guy and Amanda is my friend. But I'm so over the boys will be boys thing. And I truly just want everyone to know, I think what Amanda did is awful, but I think West is diabolical too. And I want him to get as much smoke as her.

Speaker 2:
[13:01] No, I totally agree. I mean, yeah. It's like because it's expected from him, it's not so bad or something. But no. Can I also just say that I literally am so fucking obsessed with Mia?

Speaker 1:
[13:16] Oh my God. Where has she been?

Speaker 2:
[13:18] I'm in love. I think I've taken a lover.

Speaker 1:
[13:21] I want her to leave her chef boyfriend too. He's got a... Me too. It's like Danielle with Robert. It's like these chef men aren't there for you.

Speaker 2:
[13:31] She is incredible. Like that is how you genuinely get involved in this group. Like the way that she's bonded with everybody, shared stuff about her life, like become the voice of reason for so many people in the house. Like that's how you naturally get like acquainted with a group of people. Not like being like... I don't know. Sometimes people come into the house and they're weird with how they try and fake closeness.

Speaker 1:
[14:01] Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:
[14:02] You know? But she is just like, God, I love her.

Speaker 1:
[14:08] She's great. And I did think it was funny though, when KJ said he asked R to be his girlfriend, and everyone's like, are you moving too fast? Like, what's going on? And he's like, we've been hanging out for six weeks straight. I'm like, my poor friend's on Summer House and in real life, and everyone listening, if someone wants to date you, they will, and they will put a label on it. And you don't need to do this weird exclusive without a label thing. Like these women on the show have just dealt with stupid fuckboys for so long. It's like, if somebody likes you, they're going to show you that they like you.

Speaker 2:
[14:40] Yeah, I totally agree. And he clearly is so... He's like in love.

Speaker 1:
[14:47] Yeah, good for them. Good for those two. They can go replace Kyle and Amanda and have an actual healthy relationship in that house.

Speaker 2:
[14:55] He's so sweet. And I just like love how Sierra and Mia have like completely fallen into like big sister vibes. Like they care about him so much, you know? He's like little bro now.

Speaker 1:
[15:10] It's really sweet to watch. I guess we still have the Carl and Kyle fight that's coming. I can't wait for that. I'm sure it'll be in like a week or two. I guess, what do you think of the theories that I fully agree with that West and Amanda went to the Yankees because of Ciara's magazine cover?

Speaker 2:
[15:31] Oh, yeah, I...

Speaker 1:
[15:33] 100%.

Speaker 2:
[15:34] One thousand, yeah. Undoubtedly.

Speaker 1:
[15:37] Yeah. And she looked annoyed with him there. Good luck with the rest of whatever this is.

Speaker 2:
[15:43] I will say, I am like, you know, Carl and I have had a real ebb and flow up and down relationship. I'm back in love. I'm back on my Carl shit. I love him. I am protective of him. He is an he is an Earth angel. He's just like, he really needs to be with somebody kooky and sweet and like sensitive like Bailey. He needs a sensitive woman in his life that is not like a shark. Yeah, like he he cannot be with a woman like that. And it's like, I understand why he would gravitate toward somebody like that. But it's like bad, like it's the devil on his shoulder. It's not who it's not what he should listen to.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] Definitely. And I agree with you. I have said on this podcast, I don't like Carl, but Carl 10.0 is great. And I recently listened to like an interview where he talks about getting sober and having to like figure out your emotions and realizing like, if you're a sober person, you're allowed to get angry still. And I was like, oh my God, I love Carl. When you said that I was like, because that's something I've had to like relearn is how to like discover emotions or whatever. And it is really refreshing. And it's also refreshing that it's coming from someone who used to be like a true monster on this show.

Speaker 2:
[17:01] When they show clips of old Carl saying crazy shit.

Speaker 1:
[17:05] More life.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] He's like, how about you put the D and the P, and then I put the P inside my D and then I eat you out. Um, what? Carl? Uh, what happened to my gentleman? Um, like, and I just, I thought it was so, I love what he said about Kyle, how it was like, it's like, he kind of has a fear and respect of, like, strong personalities. And, you know, the fact that he's willing to admit that he's, like, the sub in his relationship with Kyle, and Kyle is the dom and wears the pants, and decides if they're getting along or if they're not. And, yeah, like, that was so, I don't know, you don't really see complicated male friendships on Bravo a lot. It's like the most complicated you'll get is, like, Austin and Shep or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[17:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:59] You know, or, like, yeah, like, Shep and Craig. But, like, yeah, Kyle and Carl have a very complicated relationship.

Speaker 1:
[18:10] And I think next week they're doing the reunion, so that's what I think we're all waiting for at this point.

Speaker 2:
[18:15] Yeah, I hope it's good. I hope that, I hope that Wes doesn't just, like, get to mumble core through the whole reunion and not have to answer anything and, like, just look down the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[18:29] Well, I am gonna crowd source from our listeners because Levi is coming on Nostalgia Now after they record. So if anyone has any, like, good questions, I would love to hear it because I think it's important to get the ones who are, like, on the outskirts because they can be a little messier, in my opinion. And I liked Levi. She came in hot, but then they were like, she's gotta go.

Speaker 2:
[18:52] I'll have important questions. I'll send you the notes app list after we finish.

Speaker 1:
[18:59] I'll be like, this is my producer Troy.

Speaker 2:
[19:04] So he has 20 questions. But I think that's kind of all I had about Summer House. You know, I keep watching the City trailer and trying to make it happen in my spirit. The trailer is not giving me what I want.

Speaker 1:
[19:23] Yeah, but I love Lindsay Hubbard. So I am going to give it a real go.

Speaker 2:
[19:30] Oh, it will be watched. There will be blood. I will be watching for sure. I just, you know, it's like, got to get through the Danielle of it all. That's going to be tough for me. Well, like more, Danielle, really?

Speaker 1:
[19:46] I thought that we know how to stir a pot. That's one thing people can hate Danielle, but Danielle loves to be a mess on television.

Speaker 2:
[19:54] She is an extremely frustrating watch. I'll give her that. For sure. She won that one. True.

Speaker 1:
[20:03] Starting something new isn't just hard. It's terrifying. So much work goes into this thing that you're not entirely sure if it will work out, and it can be hard to make that leap of faith. Trust me, I know. When we started this podcast, I wasn't even sure what we were doing. What if no one listens? What if we make a fool of ourselves? What if no one buys our products? Now I know I was right in believing in us in launching this podcast despite all of the fear and hesitations. It also helps when you have a partner like Shopify by your side. Shopify is the commerce platform that can find millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the US. From household names like Red Bull and Skims to brands that are just getting started, get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready-to-use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style. Best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert with world-class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. It's time to turn those what-ifs into with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com/blinds. Go to shopify.com/blinds. That's shopify.com/blinds. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right so I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong.

Speaker 3:
[21:32] Bro, Skycoin, way better than points.

Speaker 4:
[21:36] Never fly during a Scorpio full moon.

Speaker 2:
[21:39] Just tell the manager you'll sue.

Speaker 4:
[21:41] Instant room upgrade.

Speaker 2:
[21:43] Stop taking bad travel advice.

Speaker 1:
[21:45] Start comparing hundreds of sites with Kayak and get your trip right. Kayak, got that right.

Speaker 4:
[21:53] They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a reasons. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat a Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's.

Speaker 2:
[22:08] OK, it's time.

Speaker 1:
[22:10] It's time.

Speaker 2:
[22:11] Kelli watched Ladies of London. My best thing. I want to know what you think.

Speaker 1:
[22:18] I love everyone on that show, even the one. I don't really like Margot, but like I appreciate her. Like I can still appreciate the kookiness, the craziness she brings. Has she really had to make a storyline about someone not liking her jacket for three episodes? No, but that's what's happening, and that's fine. Martha? Martha? If... I think I'm in love. I love Martha. Like, she followed me back on Instagram, and I was like, Princess Diana just followed me on Instagram.

Speaker 2:
[22:48] It's like she's like a silent film star. It's like she's like Sunset Boulevard. Like, I just can't believe she's real. She was meant for gays. I hope she's surrounded by limp-wristed gays. Because it's like she needs to be appreciated. She is a jewel on a crown.

Speaker 1:
[23:11] She's so fun to watch. She's so captivating. Micah, it took me a little bit longer with Micah, but I actually enjoy Micah. And I hope I'm not wrong, but she seems like genuinely nice. And I always like when like a crazy group has someone who seems like kind and can kind of like try and work with people. Missy, I think, is a mess, but I like her. It took she took me a little while too. But the fact that she was like, I was married to the most famous footballer, and then I got bored and cheated on him and married someone else who was really bad for me and her boobs are always out.

Speaker 2:
[23:48] I love her, like her like European, like, yeah, I'm naked all the time. Like, I just love it. Like, I love them. The most recent episode when when they were like making fun of Margot when Mark was like, like, and by the way, who wears a sheer dress? And she was like, I wear sheer dresses all the time. She's like, my tits are out all the time. What are you talking about? How dare you?

Speaker 1:
[24:14] I get why you don't like Mark, but he does make me laugh. And him and Emma together are like so fun.

Speaker 2:
[24:21] I get it now. It took me a minute. It took me a second, but now I get it. And I just am like, yeah, him and Kimmy are, they are gonna get a spinoff show one day. I feel it in my spirit, a road trip or something.

Speaker 1:
[24:40] Kimmy gives like the aloofness of like Sonya. I feel like Martha and Kimmy kind of both give me Sonya.

Speaker 2:
[24:48] I can see that.

Speaker 1:
[24:49] Except like they're way sharper. Like they'll come like way more. And Kimmy saying things that like I wouldn't say out loud when she's like, I hate when everyone gets together and talks about how hard their lives are. I'm bored. Like I was like, I would never say that, but I love it.

Speaker 2:
[25:06] Obsessed. When she showed up at that giant palace with a tote bag full of bottles of liquor.

Speaker 1:
[25:14] Longly.

Speaker 2:
[25:17] Yeah, long. I was like, I am, I am literally obsessed with this show. Like every moment of it is a gift. I like, I laugh so much. I'm completely enthralled. And like you really have, I mean, like you said, it has to be a really good show for people to be arguing about boots and a jacket for three episodes. And I'm literally drooling. I'm drooling.

Speaker 1:
[25:41] And the only thing I wish is that we got to know more about each cast member. I think that that's missing a little bit because Kimmy mentioned growing up in Haiti and how difficult it was. And, but that was like such a quick blip. And I was like, well, that's probably why she's having issues like opening up about trauma because of things she had seen. But if you didn't like catch that, then you'd be like, wow, she's a bitch.

Speaker 2:
[26:04] Right.

Speaker 1:
[26:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[26:05] Yeah. Even Mark. Like, like, I think that I liked him more after we, like, got a little bit more background about his life. Because I was like, at first I thought he was, like, faking it and then seeing his home. I was like, and like how he grew up and they're like, he doesn't own jeans. I was like, oh, it's real. Like, this is who he is.

Speaker 1:
[26:29] Um, Emma, I love Emma. I think the way Emma, like, speaks and the way she carries herself, and she's such, like, a princess to me. And also, what do we have to do to go to Longleat to feed the otters and, like, rub mud on rhinos? Emma, if you're listening, we're here. We would love to go. We won't argue at Longleat. Don't worry.

Speaker 2:
[26:52] She's so cool. Like, she's so down to earth. And, like, she has this way of being messy, but, like, also taking the high road always on the show. Like, she constantly takes the high road and doesn't, like, engage. But she's also messy.

Speaker 1:
[27:10] When Margot, like, grabbed the pastries, and Emma was like, I think it's tea time.

Speaker 2:
[27:15] Yeah. And she was like, my face should tell you what I was thinking. Like, she's a messy queen, but she's, like, very, she knows how to stay above, like, water, you know? She's so cool. And, like, it's just unimaginable that her little, tiny, little, tiny spirit runs that entire palace.

Speaker 1:
[27:40] I know. Yeah, I'm really glad that I watched it. You were correct. I loved every second of it. And I'm not much of, like, a binge watcher. It takes me a little bit to really, like, get through episodes. But this was like, Coco Melon. Like, I put it on.

Speaker 2:
[27:53] I was like, Oh, can you get I just like, just to go back, just to circle back for a second. Even Martha's like story is in like her book that she will inevitably write one day is going to be so fucking fascinating. Like, I'm always so interested in people, especially people on Bravo, who have been rich and poor and rich and poor and rich and poor. I just think that that is so fascinating and like the way she just kind of like keeps calm and carries on through life and keeps her head up and like she's like, I'm poor right now, but I'll be rich again. It's crazy. It's like, it's like so interesting.

Speaker 1:
[28:37] And I love like the British humor. I think it's fun and I know Margo doesn't like it, but there's nothing wrong with like gentle picking at someone. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I also have a very hot take. Like if I was to find out you were talking shit about me to Donnie, it really wouldn't upset me. Like I don't want the same way because I'm like, you two know me and to me, I'm like, who else are you going to talk about? I would rather you talk to someone who knows me than a stranger.

Speaker 2:
[29:05] Oh, that's a good point.

Speaker 1:
[29:06] Yeah. I always like if you're talking to your friend who doesn't know me, that'll piss me off a little more. Like I don't want that friend to be like, well, I heard from I'd be like, oh, but if it's like a group of friends that you've known for a while, I don't know if these women have known each other that long, but it's like I have friends from eighth grade, and if I find out those two are talking about me, I'm not going to get that upset because it's like they know me.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] That's such an interesting way to look at it. I've never thought about it that way, but I do feel the same. I guess my perspective has always been like, friends have to talk about each other.

Speaker 1:
[29:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:43] You literally have to get through your friendship. Sometimes you just have to vent about your friend to your other friend who knows them and you know that it's harmless. It's like family talking about family.

Speaker 1:
[30:00] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[30:01] Other people, you're right. It's like other people, that's a whole different thing. But when it's a group of friends and in the group you're talking about, it's like who else are you going to talk about it to?

Speaker 1:
[30:12] Exactly. I would rather you tell Donnie, I'm annoying you than someone I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[30:19] Well, don't you also think that Margo, okay, Margo to me is one of those people that she thinks that she's funny, right? She thinks she has a sense of humor. She actually is humorless. He's right. She can't take a joke about herself. I do think that that's a bad quality.

Speaker 1:
[30:38] Definitely, especially when it seems like in the English culture, you like pick on people and you kind of like joke about it. Not in a super nasty way, but in a little playful way.

Speaker 2:
[30:49] He made a joke about your fucking stupid feather jacket, like, shut up, you know?

Speaker 1:
[30:56] Whereas Kimmy is saying like the meanest shit ever to Martha. And Martha is like, oh, Kimmy. I know.

Speaker 2:
[31:02] I know, and Martha, I love that her consistently, she's always just like, I really do love her and I wish you'd be kinder to her. I really do. I really wish she'd be kind to her. I love her. I just love that she's just like, you guys are all fucking insane. And I love that every time Kimmy tries to talk to her, she's like, but Kimmy, you are a crazy fucking bitch.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] She's like, and that's not me, I love you.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] Yeah, you're a psychotic bitch, Kimmy. It's so funny. What a good show. If you guys are not watching Ladies of London, you are seriously missing out on a gym. It's a special show.

Speaker 1:
[31:42] It is so good. And like I said, the only thing I wish is we got a little more background on them, but I'm sure eventually we will.

Speaker 2:
[31:50] Yeah, I agree. I would love to know more about, Missy would be really interesting to know more about her background. What do you think about Lottie?

Speaker 1:
[31:59] Oh my God, Lottie, I forgot about Lottie. I guess that's how I feel about Lottie.

Speaker 2:
[32:03] Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:05] The last few episodes, she's really grown on me because I do kind of like how she's like letting Margot go, go, go, go, go, go. And she's just like, I'm not really listening. I don't really care, but I have to be with like my sober friend because I can't drink. Lottie and her husband shocked me. I was shocked to the core. And that is me being judgmental. I can admit it. But now seven episodes in, I'm like, I love them together. I think they make so much sense. And at Longleat, she was wearing this outfit. I'm noticing outfits, Troy. She's wearing like a suit coat that's all like bedazzled. And I was like, they're the perfect couple and I'm obsessed with them.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] I love an eccentric couple that gives queer. I love it. It's one of my favorite things. They are our Alex and Simon, Van Kempen. And I'm happy to have them. I'm obsessed. He seems genuinely so obsessed with her and in love with her. And I just love how much they complement each other. I love that they match each other all the time. And they're just in their own world. And their kid is going to be dressed impeccably and kooky. And they're like a Tim Burton couple.

Speaker 1:
[33:18] Yes, they really are. You know, I loved when they were buying the push present. And she was like, we do have some gender norms that are very specific, which is I get a push present, and he has to buy it for me. And I just thought that was really funny.

Speaker 2:
[33:35] Yeah, I like her. Her perspective, too, is cool, because she's like, didn't come from money. So it's like an interesting, she has an interesting perspective, because she's not like, they're rich now, but they weren't rich, like she's a normal girl.

Speaker 1:
[33:52] I loved when they were pulling up to Longleat and she took out her phone and she was like, I haven't seen this since I was a little kid. Like she was just so excited to be there. And Margo's like, well, this weekend is going to be, and she's like, shut up, like, just take it in.

Speaker 2:
[34:06] Margo's wearing a tank top with nipple rings on it to go. It's like you clearly wanted, she like wanted him to say something about that fucking tank top, like she loves the attention.

Speaker 1:
[34:18] Yeah, yeah. She's a tough one for me, but I also understand why she's there.

Speaker 2:
[34:24] Yeah, she's a great kind of villain, kind of like funny, she does funny talking heads, like her interviews are funny.

Speaker 1:
[34:34] Yeah, beautiful show. One of my favorites that I've watched in a long time. Like I'm genuinely excited and I'm upset that I don't have more episodes to watch, but I'm excited for new ones.

Speaker 2:
[34:44] There's nothing more special than when a Bravo sideshow that's not Housewives, when one of the sideshow is just like gets in your soul. And you just love the people so much and you're just so excited.

Speaker 1:
[34:56] Totally. And that's how I feel about this. And now I need you guys, you helped us with Southern hospitality. You got to help us. I know we ask a lot of you, but could you please help us get this show a second season?

Speaker 2:
[35:10] Speaking of, what did you think about Southern hospitality this week?

Speaker 1:
[35:14] To be honest, I feel like the girls are so mean to Mia and them. When they kept talking about her fake boobs, I thought that was really weird.

Speaker 2:
[35:23] They're so jealous.

Speaker 1:
[35:24] Yeah, I have to keep reminding myself Lake is 22, but I'm getting sick of reminding myself that Lake is 22. If that makes sense. And Maddie, I like seeing her with her sponsor, but watching her and Joe Bradley together is really difficult for me. Like watching Joe Bradley try and rub together his brain cells to come up with like a full sentence, it's very frustrating for me to watch. What about you?

Speaker 2:
[35:50] So I feel the exact same way about, unfortunately, about Lake and Michaels. I'm just like, well, you two are like the children of this group, and it's so obvious that they're so young. Like, their fights are so silly. They're so immature. I find, I like love Michaels, and I think that he's obviously so beautiful, and like his sweet moments are so sweet, but he needs to be checked.

Speaker 1:
[36:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:19] He's a homosexual that has gone unchecked, which is very dangerous. It's extremely dangerous, and he's highly combustible, and he needs somebody who isn't afraid of him to check his ass, because I will be damned if that man would be chasing me through that house, chest back like Jason Voorhees in overalls, screaming and pointing in my face while I'm in the corner crying. It would never be me.

Speaker 1:
[36:49] No.

Speaker 2:
[36:50] He's on another level sometimes, and I just think it's the power of being a manager and having a job like that. It just goes to your head when you're young in a weird way.

Speaker 1:
[37:00] Yeah, I fully agree with you. I mean, I thought Lake's artist night was nice, and I thought it was nice to see a different side of her. But even at the end when she started, I can't remember Justin's girlfriend or not girlfriend's name.

Speaker 3:
[37:16] I...

Speaker 1:
[37:16] the brunette that's like...

Speaker 2:
[37:17] I forget too.

Speaker 1:
[37:18] Kind of looks like Raquel from Vanderpump Rules. Like, so her being mad at Mia, and Mia's like, she's not my friend. And everyone wanting Mia to apologize. I was like, she didn't really do anything. Like it doesn't sound like her and Justin even had sex. It sounds like they went on a date and maybe she's not interested in him anymore. But also it sounds like Justin has been pretty clear about, I can't believe I'm standing up for Justin. It seems like he's been pretty clear about his boundaries.

Speaker 2:
[37:47] Yes. And again, it's like Mia being a grown ass woman.

Speaker 1:
[37:51] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:52] Talking to this child and her being like, you're not a girl's girl. A girl wouldn't kiss it was her guy. And it's like Mia is not in high school. Like she's not friends with that girl and doesn't give a fuck about her.

Speaker 1:
[38:07] Yeah. Yeah. I was just like this feels too young for like the setting that they're in. But also I know like when you work with people, it comes really messy really quick, especially if you're like always together and I can't imagine filming. But to me, I was just like, this is a little much, this is a little too much.

Speaker 2:
[38:26] It got a little insane, especially with the Michaels and Lake stuff was weird because the whole time I was thinking and I was so happy that somebody finally said it, what does he didn't even care anymore?

Speaker 1:
[38:44] Bradley?

Speaker 2:
[38:45] Yeah. He didn't even care. He was like over it and Michaels was like, it's weird to me how, and Lake does this too, where they get really involved in other people's shit, which is also a very young thing.

Speaker 1:
[38:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:00] Like Mia being like, why do you care about this so much? You're like crying because this girl's hookup partner is now hooking up with somebody else and they were never in a relationship. Why are you emotionally tied to this? And then same thing with Michaels with Bradley. Bradley is like chill as fuck. He doesn't even care about any of this. You guys are running around the house screaming and crying at each other and he's like eating a corn on the cob. And you're fighting about him.

Speaker 1:
[39:30] Yeah. It's crazy. But another thing that's crazy, I don't know if you saw the seating chart for the reunion of Southern Hospitality. Leva is first chair, which I get it's like a Vanderpump thing, but I feel like Leva is not even a part of the show as much as Lisa is a part of the show.

Speaker 2:
[39:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:49] And I get that Maddie is the main girl, but I still think Bradley should have been first chair for this season. And Joe Bradley and I get Maddie, like you can't break them up or whatever, but Joe does not deserve second chair.

Speaker 2:
[40:04] Wait, why would Joe be second chair?

Speaker 1:
[40:07] Because he's attached to Maddie.

Speaker 2:
[40:11] That's wild.

Speaker 1:
[40:14] Right. Because in my opinion, Bradley should be first chair.

Speaker 2:
[40:19] This is very interesting. I also just have to say, Emmy teeters on, like I think that she's a really great villain for this show. But she teeters on being unwatchable.

Speaker 1:
[40:34] Yes, I fully agree. These last few weeks, I know that I stood here and been like, Emmy's fun, like she's a great villain. She's not fun to watch. It's more like, are you a racist? What is going on? Should you even be on television? Like, are you well enough to be on TV? Like, it's not great.

Speaker 2:
[40:53] I don't think I've ever seen somebody, like, possess so many stereotypical traits of, like, whiteness and, like, white privilege and, like, just being an annoying white lady. Like, she's like a cartoon character of a crying, weeping white woman. Like, just weeping all the fucking time and, like, weaponizing her tears all the time. Always crying over everybody else, talking over other people, making it about her. When she went into that fucking bathroom while Lake was sobbing, was, like, head in hands weeping and then cried over her and made her console her. Like, she is so... That woman is, like, she's out of her fucking mind. She's really batshit.

Speaker 1:
[41:44] I mean, even last week's episode, I guess if you're listening, we're talking about two weeks ago. We're not talking about Joe Bradley's birthday episode, which I'm excited to watch. But, like, she got, what, sideswiped on the way to Lake's painting thing and still showed up. She, like, showed up so late, but she was still there. She's like, I'm going to get that filming money. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[42:03] I know, seriously. Seriously, like, she is. And she's, like, wound, like, a top. Like, she's just so uptight and so wild eyed and always, like, on edge. And, like, I was so happy that Bradley finally put her in her goddamn place. Like, I've been waiting for somebody to be like, shut the fuck up. Why do you, why are they, I was like, why do they keep indulging her, you know?

Speaker 1:
[42:31] Yeah, I agree. And, like, they don't have to be friends. They don't have to be anything. It can just be like, I don't know if it should be left alone, if I'm being honest, because I think it's bringing up, like, bigger conversations about race and how Bravo kind of handles it. But to me, I feel like Anna Camp could play, like, Emmy in a show because she's so good at playing, like, a wound up, like, neurotic person.

Speaker 2:
[42:55] She's so good at playing Crazy White Ladies. She would be an amazing, an amazing Emmy, for sure. And I just, like, I love that Bradley was just like, your tears are fake. Like, you're not really crying. I don't know if you realize that nobody believes that these are real tears, girl.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] Right, it's like, what are we doing here? So we can pretend to be friends and then not be friends, and then you tell someone that I'll ruin your life if I'm not your friend.

Speaker 2:
[43:22] Yeah, like, you just want me to make you feel better about something awful that you did and I won't do it, so you're mad.

Speaker 1:
[43:28] Yeah. Like, a wholesome moment. I loved, like, the hot dog stand last episode where, like, Bradley, Mia, TJ, they're all trying to sell. And at one point, I don't know if you caught this, Mia was like, support black owned business, and started pointing at Bradley.

Speaker 2:
[43:43] Yeah. She said, she said, she said, support a little black business. I'm little, he's black, and then TJ's the business. She's so amazing.

Speaker 1:
[43:58] Those three are to me, I know people have their issues with TJ, but those three are the core of the show. And I love Maddie's sobriety story. I love seeing her with her sponsor.

Speaker 2:
[44:09] Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:10] I'm like, you got to break up with Joe. You can't be with someone who's lying about getting drunk if you are trying to stay sober.

Speaker 2:
[44:18] I agree. And he's so in denial. He's so just like not ready to hear anything about it. And like him having convinced himself that it's his business and yeah, he's Joey Bottles or whatever, and he's got to be drunk because it's networking, babe. He's like, it's not networking.

Speaker 1:
[44:38] He goes, he goes, it's like my job to like sell tables.

Speaker 2:
[44:41] So, I don't know. It's like, but you're leaving. Are you really going to other bars and selling tables at that, at your restaurant?

Speaker 1:
[44:52] Right. She has your location, Joe.

Speaker 2:
[44:56] God, I would be the exact same way. I'd be so tortured trying to make him smart. Cause he's so dumb.

Speaker 1:
[45:04] I wouldn't be able to handle it. I would not be able to be around it.

Speaker 2:
[45:09] I wouldn't be able to, I would be so blinded by his beauty that I would look past it for a long time, but I wouldn't be able to do it for very long. He is very dumb.

Speaker 1:
[45:18] I saw somebody on threads where he's not considerate of Maddie. I'm like, I don't think he can form a thought to be considerate.

Speaker 2:
[45:25] Yeah. I think that he's kind of like Kyle in the sense where it's like our relationship is going well when she's happy and smiling, and it's not going well if she's not. So I'll just keep badgering her until she's happy and smiling again, and then we're good and we're happy. Like he's dumb.

Speaker 1:
[45:43] He's so dumb.

Speaker 2:
[45:45] He's so dumb and I love him so much. Jo, I know that you're listening and I love you so, so much. You're my little teddy bear, but you're an idiot. And I love that he's always like everything is because he's Italian.

Speaker 1:
[45:56] Yeah, right. Right. His skin.

Speaker 2:
[45:58] He's like, oh, that's how I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[46:02] I guess washing your face isn't good for you because my skin's so good.

Speaker 2:
[46:06] He's like, let's go. Come on. Let's go. He's so stupid. I love him. I love him.

Speaker 1:
[46:14] Now, speaking of stupid things, we hate the valley. I think we have both decided we're just not going to cover the valley. I was really trying to look for like lights, and one of them was Cruz saying Zack's name. I was like, oh, that's a beautiful moment. Cruz is excited to see Zack and he's talking and seems to be thriving. Then what? Two episodes, an episode later, we're at Danny's festival that he's hosting at his house, and he starts talking like this because you're in the out west. I'm like, get me out of this hellscape. Where is Persian style?

Speaker 2:
[46:50] Where is Reza? Where is Gigi? Where is Gigi? Where are my girls?

Speaker 1:
[46:56] Where's MJ?

Speaker 2:
[46:58] Right. Where's Gonesa June? Like, where are my girls? I can't, like I, this is what I think I'm going to end up doing, is just doing a binge of this show and just knocking it out because I don't want to be left out.

Speaker 1:
[47:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:12] But I find this to be like the hardest viewing experience that I have right now. If you want to know, I think it's stealing my sporkle. I think the Valley is taking my sporkle from me.

Speaker 1:
[47:24] It's the opposite of date night.

Speaker 2:
[47:26] Yes. I'm losing my sporkle. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:31] This show is brutal. I'm not saying- It's hard. It wasn't any better with Jax on it, so I don't think it's because Jax is gone, this show sucks. It's really sad to just watch these people in really sad relationships. You know it's bad when my favorite cast member is Michelle. Like that is the dark times where I don't mind Lala Kent on my screen.

Speaker 2:
[47:56] You know it's bad when I have access to Kristen Doty and I'm not even fucking doing, I'm not even doing it. Like for me to have access to Doty, and for me to not be taking that up, like it says a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:11] Yeah. And I can't even like really remember what happened last episode. If I'm being 100% honest, maybe that was the the 90s party or the throwback party that they had. But this show is just it is a very hard watch for us. And I think it's best if we just don't talk about it, because if you guys enjoy it and you just hear shit on it every week, that sucks too.

Speaker 2:
[48:32] Yeah, I don't want to like just be negative about it every week. And I don't know what happened. I don't remember what happened either. I can guarantee that a loveless marriage was exploited.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] Oh, Brittany's boyfriend showed up and caused trouble. And it's like she's dating Jack's 2.0.

Speaker 2:
[48:50] Yes. And I don't want to be cruel. But I will say I think that she's she's a big reason that I did not bear.

Speaker 1:
[49:00] I can't you've never liked her.

Speaker 2:
[49:03] I've never liked Brittany even back in the swamp days. And I just I can't I can't do it.

Speaker 1:
[49:11] That's that's fair. And we will leave you with that for the valley.

Speaker 2:
[49:15] And that's that on that.

Speaker 3:
[49:19] Now's the time to save on new carpet at the Home Depot. Receive 10 percent off your total carpet project and 12 months special financing. Plus, we'll measure your space for free. Choose from a variety of stylish, on-trend options fit for everyday life. With LifeProof, LifeProof with Pet Proof technology, Home Decorators Collection and Traffic Master Carpets. Save 10 percent and get 12 months special financing. Now at the Home Depot. Offer valid April 16th through May 3rd, 2026, exclusions applied for license at seehomedepot.com/licensenumbers.

Speaker 2:
[49:49] Let's talk about Atlanta for a second.

Speaker 1:
[49:52] Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:
[49:53] Atlanta is back.

Speaker 1:
[49:54] I've had fun with it. I'm not fully caught up, but K. Michelle, I don't know, I have not, I've heard of this woman, I have not seen her. I love her. She is, her voice is so fun. And I just, I really enjoy her so far.

Speaker 2:
[50:10] She's a star. Like she makes every show that she's on better. She is always the breakout person of anything she's on. She is a star. She's so funny. Like she's so fucking funny. Like we got like the humor back of Atlanta and like that's, that was such a big part of Atlanta and it was missing and like, like Drew Sedora, not funny. Like, you know what I mean? Like there's a, I feel like with Atlanta, there's a pressure for the girls to be funny because of people like NeNe and like Phaedra was like so funny for a long time. They try and come in and be comics.

Speaker 1:
[50:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:53] And like sometimes that just doesn't work, but like Kay Michelle is genuinely one of the funniest people I think on television. I'm obsessed with her.

Speaker 1:
[51:03] She's hysterical. You're right about Drew, but I'm like, but Drew is beautiful. I think Drew is stunning. And that's something like I love about this cast is the whole time. I'm like, they're all so pretty. Like I wish I could dress like that. Like Portia Williams just like looking incredible all the time. And all the FaceTime dates that they had at her party, I thought was really funny. And she's like, why am I talking into a phone? I'm like, who is this?

Speaker 2:
[51:30] The fact that Drew's guy sat on the phone for like three hours is insane also, just like joining the conversation.

Speaker 1:
[51:39] Yeah, and she had to talk about like phone sex.

Speaker 2:
[51:44] That was so Atlanta for them to be like, I do have a date. Like they always like are so afraid about being like single. Like they're like embarrassed to not have a man always. So in the most recent episode, there's like this whole story line about Portia and Kay Michelle, where in last week's episode, Portia like casually brought up the possibility of Kay Michelle having a miscarriage, and Kay Michelle took offense to it. And I genuinely just think that Portia is like a ditzy, ditzy, ditzy, ditzy bimbo. Like I really, I think that she's a messy girl, very, very, very, very messy. But in that moment, like I really don't think that she meant to be cruel or like insensitive. Like she even said, like, I've gone through a bunch of miscarriages, like I would never, I just think she's messy. But I will say when I saw Portia and Kay Michelle being introduced as friends, I was like, that won't last. That unfortunately is doomed. There's no way that that friendship can sustain, even though I love it and they would be so fun. They're so funny together, like that could be a new fricking frack, like Portia and Phaedra. But yeah, that's doomed. That's not, it's not meant in the, it's not in the stars, unfortunately.

Speaker 1:
[53:07] No, two big personalities like that. And they're like, yeah, definitely agree.

Speaker 2:
[53:13] Yeah. And like, Portia is very sensitive. Kay Michelle will call you out. Like, but yeah. And like the other thing that I find so interesting about Kay Michelle is she's always been so candid. I don't always agree with the shit that she says. She is an R. Kelly apologist, which we, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:31] Well, I take back what I said of liking her. My bad, everyone.

Speaker 2:
[53:36] She was like one of R. Kelly's muses. Like when she, she was like his Justin Bieber, if you will.

Speaker 1:
[53:46] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[53:47] So he taught her how to record music. He trained her how to sing. He put her through R&B boot camp, basically. So she has Stockholm syndrome with an abuser, pretty much. And Michelle talked about it. Kay Michelle is so open and honest. And even the stuff with her body, she was one of the first people I knew to be open about having a BBL and hating it and having to get it reversed on TV. And it's almost killed her. And she had illegal silicone injections, which was a big thing in Atlanta, pre people getting BBLs. She has free floating silicone in her body, just in her. You can't get that shit out.

Speaker 4:
[54:33] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[54:35] So there's that. I'm also, I just, I like really love Pinkie. Like, I think she's so fun. And I think it's cool that she's being so honest about her financial stuff, because in Atlanta, the girls always have financial stuff going on, but they'll like flex and pretend that they're not. They rent houses and they'll rent cars and all of that shit. And she's like, my storyline is that I'm filing bankruptcy.

Speaker 1:
[55:02] Yes, last or the other week when I said she should be on Shark Tank, I was educated very quickly on why she should not be on Shark Tank. So thank you, everyone. My apologies.

Speaker 2:
[55:13] But you know what, though? In her defense, I'm like, all wealthy people file bankruptcy. That's what they do. Like wealthy business owners, they just like file bankruptcy every fucking year.

Speaker 1:
[55:24] Yeah. Do they? I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:
[55:26] Yeah, it's a thing. There's like documentaries about it, like how like the 1%, like the super, super, super wealthy, they just like file, they like get into crazy debt and then file bankruptcy and like leave it over and over.

Speaker 1:
[55:39] That's so interesting.

Speaker 2:
[55:41] Yeah, they love bankruptcies. So I'm like, it's a sign. You made it.

Speaker 1:
[55:47] Well, what do you think of Rhode Island? I know that you have loved Rhode Island, and it does take me a little bit to get into Housewives, but now I am fully in on Rhode Island.

Speaker 2:
[55:57] I'm obsessed. I can't believe that these women exist. I seriously, like, this has, in a short time, become like one of my favorite Housewives franchises, which is crazy, but they're just so good.

Speaker 1:
[56:17] Alicia is so fucking funny. And like watching her, I think it was her with her aunts, and then like Liz went over. Is that right? The right? Yeah. You should, poor Blair, whenever Liz is on screen, I'm like, is that Dolores? Every single time, at least like 15 times an episode. But watching Alicia with her family, I was like, I feel like I'm watching my mom with her friend group. Like, that is exactly what this group gives me. And yeah, I even, I like, I like Kelsey, the little sugar baby. And I think her story is really interesting. I want to know what happened with her and Dino to make her so afraid of him. I'm like, what is that about? There's more there.

Speaker 2:
[56:59] Yeah, and I'm also, I don't know how women like this constantly find themselves on Housewives, but Rula, she is classic real housewives. Like, weird marriage, house of cards, lying about how happy they are, her neurotic trying to keep up the facade, like, anxiety riddled, but like, choosing to expose her life on a TV show. I just, it's so Housewives.

Speaker 1:
[57:29] Well, I feel like a lot of these women are going to just leave their husbands after the first season of the show. I feel like that's why they signed on. When Alicia said Rula's husband was married to her Spanish teacher first, I was like, what's that age gap? Now we need like ages. What do you mean? And she's like, and that's a shame. I like my Spanish teacher.

Speaker 2:
[57:49] I know. I love Olisa. I can't believe she's a real person. Talk about a breakout star. Oh my God. I know. I know. I need to know more about Kelsey's situation. I'm sorry. I need answers. Like, where is this guy? Are we going to see him?

Speaker 1:
[58:08] I don't think so. I don't think we're going to see him. Allegedly, he's like some big lawyer's son or something. I want to say Bravo and Cocktails may be posted about it, but I'm going to guess they're no longer going to be together after the show.

Speaker 2:
[58:23] Well, it must be so crazy to like, you know, they've been together for what did she say, like 10 years or something now, and she hasn't worked in basically ever. And like, she's so wealthy because of him. And it's like she chose, you know, I feel like there are people who marry for money, and there are people who marry for love. Like, she clearly chose to marry for money or whatever. And like, now she wants to marry for love. But it's like, how do you leave being taken care of like that? Like, you know, I mean, how do you just pack? Like, she doesn't, she hasn't worked in a million years.

Speaker 1:
[59:02] And she lives in a castle by herself with a staff.

Speaker 2:
[59:05] Right, she has a staff. Like, she has a full on staff. But I guess that's what makes Housewives so interesting. Like, now she has a job and, like, that's why doing this show is so disruptive to people's marriages, because the women gain independence.

Speaker 1:
[59:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:23] And it's like a tale as old as time where, like, the women become financially secure and it becomes so much about them that the men can't handle it. So it's like, she's, I guess she's setting herself up to have money to leave, but that's crazy. I don't know if I could do it.

Speaker 1:
[59:40] Well, that's how I felt about Alicia when she was like, pizza mama is my idea. And she doesn't want to just live off her husband's money when it's her idea for stuff. And I'm like, oh, she's gonna make her own pizza mama after she leaves him.

Speaker 2:
[59:54] Yeah, yeah, for sure. God, she's so cool. Like, I love her so much. She's so weird.

Speaker 1:
[60:02] And I don't know if this is very like a New England thing, but when Ashley said some of the girls thought she was being rude because she was quiet, I also think people who are quiet are rude. And I know that like, I've had to unlearn it when I moved to Nashville. I was like, some people just don't want to like chat. And that's like something you have to deal with. But I was like, that is such like a New England thing. If someone's quiet, you're like, oh, they're fucking rude. They don't want to talk to me.

Speaker 2:
[60:27] Were you familiar with Ashley?

Speaker 1:
[60:29] I wasn't. Blair kind of filled me in on her. And when I found out she was a virgin till she was 29, I was like, is Ashley a lesbian?

Speaker 2:
[60:39] I forgot about the virgin thing. Obviously, the Bachelor fucking milked that shit as much as they physically could. But yeah, her and her husband met on Bachelor in Paradise. Like, earnestly. It's crazy. Like, they're one of the true couples to come out of that show. And they really genuinely met on the island and fell in love. And I've always really liked Ashley a lot. I think she's really sweet. And I just love that she kind of doesn't know where she is. She's just like, I don't even know what the fuck show I'm on. These women are fighting about crazy stuff like she's just happy to show up and film and be working. And she's just so nice and like not. But she still works, I feel, you know.

Speaker 1:
[61:24] Honestly, watching her is like watching Blair with my family, like Blair. When we had our engagement party, she's like, I have to play with a ball, don't I? I'm like, you do. You do have to. Like, it's just funny seeing like I don't know anything about Ashley. And the lesbian thing, I saw that on Twitter. I apologize if that was offensive to anyone. But it is funny to see such a fish out of water and her having to like deal with these like tough Rhode Island girls.

Speaker 2:
[61:51] And she's just like trying to keep up. And when they're having their fights, her head is just like, well, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:56] And she might be crying at some point.

Speaker 2:
[61:59] Yes. That's her other thing. She cries. I'm sure Blair told you that.

Speaker 1:
[62:02] Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[62:04] She's known for crying a lot.

Speaker 1:
[62:07] Jo Ellen, I do not trust her husband and her sister for a moment. And I know her sister dated her husband in high school, and then Jo Ellen went after him and started dating him. But I was like, something about this is not going to play out great on this, or it will play out great, but not for Jo Ellen.

Speaker 2:
[62:25] Yeah, I kind of got the same vibe. I was just like, they kind of give me, again, classic Housewives trope where things aren't what they seem. And I just feel like there's weird, they're weird.

Speaker 1:
[62:39] Something's going on.

Speaker 2:
[62:41] Something is weird there. But I'm so fucking obsessed with Liz. I just am so, she's another one. I'm like, I can't believe she's real. I can't believe that we have the gift of watching this woman. She's such a kook.

Speaker 1:
[62:55] I want a house tour of that house right on the water. I need to see what it's like. And I loved when she was like, I was just drunk and being crazy.

Speaker 2:
[63:03] I know.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] Like, it's so refreshing. I feel like Southern hospitality should lean into like, I was just drunk and stupid, my bad. Because people will be like, we all get like that, we get it.

Speaker 2:
[63:15] Totally. It was very endearing. She's so endearing.

Speaker 1:
[63:19] She is.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] And like, it is crazy that everybody's so scared of her because she seems so sweet, but I wouldn't cross her. I would not fuck with her at all. I would be terrified of her for sure.

Speaker 1:
[63:29] No. Right when she said like, I am their mother. I took them in. I was like, oof, oof, I know her.

Speaker 2:
[63:37] I know. And I love that her husband called her on a whim and said like, get all your shit out of the boat. We're selling it. I was like, what is this life? Like, what is this lifestyle?

Speaker 1:
[63:48] And she had like gowns stored under the bed.

Speaker 2:
[63:52] She's like, all right, so I have like what? 10 minutes to get rid of everything in here. I'm like, what is this life? Are you just on a whim, sell a fucking yacht?

Speaker 1:
[64:01] Oh, and I'm glad they're highlighting Rhode Island. Rhode Island is beautiful. Like, I'm glad that they're showing like the scenery of Rhode Island. It's not, it's not all bad.

Speaker 2:
[64:10] Well, there's such a culture. And I just think it's my favorite thing about Housewives is like the subcultures of these people and like how they communicate based on where they're from, you know, and like what's normal to them. Like how, what's normal to this group of girls is so the opposite of like OC or Jersey or, well, maybe not so much Jersey. But you know what I mean? Like they, it's like their own little world.

Speaker 1:
[64:37] Yeah, no, definitely. Who's the one with the jeep? Rosie, I guess Rosie has the pink jeep. So her husband felt like so familiar to me. And I think that this is my favorite part of this, like Rhode Island is like how familiar these people feel. Like his accent felt more like my Massachusetts accent that I no longer really have, but comes out sometimes. And yeah, I just, I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm home.

Speaker 2:
[65:03] She's so chronically online that she thought she was gonna come on this show and create a character. But it's like, unfortunately, all these girls are like very ready to clock your tea, girl.

Speaker 1:
[65:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[65:14] Like that shit about her losing her job and her trying to incorporate, like being like, and that's how I left my job. Ha ha. Like, girl, nice try. Nice try. But that's not gonna work.

Speaker 1:
[65:27] Yeah. I love that when they were like, actually she was sleeping with her boss.

Speaker 2:
[65:31] Yeah. And like everybody knows.

Speaker 1:
[65:34] Yeah. This is a good one. I'm really enjoying it. And I will say though, Dolores and Liz, when they have scenes together, it really is whiplash for me. It's like watching me and Jessie on Mormon Wives the first season. I'm like, which is which?

Speaker 2:
[65:47] It's really amazing because like Dolores is like a very unique woman. Like I've never seen another woman really that looks like Dolores. I also love that. So Wendy Williams used to always call Dolores Black Dolores because she looks like a black woman. And Wendy thought she was a black woman. And now, and then that became her nickname is Black Girl Dolores. And now there's another woman that also looks like Black Dolores.

Speaker 1:
[66:15] Who used to not look anything like Dolores, by the way.

Speaker 2:
[66:19] Hello. Hello.

Speaker 1:
[66:21] And I don't know if you noticed when they were at that campfire last episode fighting, Dolores just started smiling. And I was like, Dolores knew she did good.

Speaker 2:
[66:30] She did. She did. She's producing because she's earned it. You know, she knows she's the woman that's been doing this the longest. She had another moment like that. I want to say it was maybe the second episode where they were at Liz's party. And I don't even remember who she was saying it to, but she was like, you're in her house. You have to go up and talk to her, see if she's willing to communicate. We'll see if we can handle this. You're at her house. So go up to her. She was producing and the girls were listening to what she, what to do because they were like, she's mother hen. I loved that.

Speaker 1:
[67:08] Do you think she'll ever be full time on this show?

Speaker 2:
[67:11] I could see it happening next year. I could. I could see her just being like, Jersey is a fucking dumpster fire at this point.

Speaker 1:
[67:19] Rhode Island's pretty, might as well just move there.

Speaker 2:
[67:22] She fits in so well. She's so, I don't know, I'm just so obsessed. I love this damn show. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:28] 10 out of 10. Ladies of London, Southern Hospitality, Rhode Island, please watch.

Speaker 2:
[67:33] Yeah, please, please, especially Ladies of London, please watch Ladies of London. I won't be able to survive if it gets canceled. I won't. I did it once. I will not survive it again. I can tell you, that's a threat.

Speaker 1:
[67:48] We will quit Beyond The Blinds.

Speaker 2:
[67:50] Yes. We march with Martha.

Speaker 1:
[67:58] Anything else?

Speaker 2:
[67:59] Oh my God. If I don't talk about Drag Race.

Speaker 1:
[68:03] Oh, yes.

Speaker 2:
[68:03] It is going to be never-ending. I have to talk about it. And I forgot to talk about it in the last one. Drag Race Finale. So my girl, Mikey Meeks won one Drag Race. Spoiler alert, if you didn't see it, Mikey won. I was really hopeful about this season at the beginning, and I still really enjoyed it. And I thought it was an incredible cast and the people coming out of it, that I wasn't really... Like people like Discord Adams, like I was like not really into Discord at the beginning, and now I'm quite literally obsessed, and I know that Discord will be back on my screen, and I can't wait. But the season overall, something about it just felt like it was missing. I don't know what it was. There was just something that felt off. Like, I don't know if it was the storylines. There weren't really a lot of riveting stories this season. I also think the eliminations this season felt really weird. Like, I'll never get over Jane Doe being let go. And I know that people have talked about it now. To hell and back, it's nothing new, but it just changed the integrity of the whole show. And for, what's her name? Oh, my God, I can't think of her name right now. For Juicy Love Dion to have made it to the end of the season, I just thought was insane over Jane Doe. Like, Juicy, I love Lip Sync Queen, one of the best lip syncers I think that we've ever had on Drag Race. Like, watching her dance is literally riveting, and I could watch for hours. So I think it's totally fair that she won all those lip syncs. But like, she did so bad on this show, and Jane did so good. So watching her make it to the end, not only make it to the end, but get like a weird advantage that they've never done, where she got to like go to the top three lip sync, and like, for no, I was just like, what is going on? Like, I just felt like all of the weird, it felt like producer interference, and it felt like it fucked up the vibe of the show to me. And I hate when Drag Race, I hate when any show does that, but Drag Race is like so fucking annoying with that shit sometimes. The meddling, it's like, just like let these girls just do, let it just play out how it's supposed to play out. Yeah. But I had a fun time watching this season. The finale, I thought was like fun. I was happy that Jane don't won, Miss Congeniality, that was cool at least. And yeah, I was kind of ready for it to end, to be honest with you. At the end, I was like, this feels so predictable. It is so fucking obvious that Mikey's going to win. It just kind of takes the steam out of it when it's so obvious for weeks who's going to very clearly win the show. So yeah. And then I was a little nervous because this was the first time that they had ever lip-synched on the finale just to Rupaul songs. And I was like, oh, that's going to be... What are we going to do without Britney Spears as Stronger? But it ended up being fine. It was entertaining. They weren't all the Rupaul songs that I would have chosen, but I liked it. I thought it was fine. So yeah, that was our finale of Rupaul's Drag Race.

Speaker 1:
[71:43] Well, thank you guys so much for listening to another Reality TV corner. And sorry, we hate the valley.

Speaker 2:
[71:51] Maybe it'll grow on us. Maybe something crazy will happen and next week we'll be like, it's our favorite show.

Speaker 1:
[71:57] We got to hope.

Speaker 2:
[71:58] Maybe we'll get back our sparkle.

Speaker 1:
[72:00] But thank you guys so much for listening and we'll talk to you later.

Speaker 2:
[72:04] Love you. Bye.

Speaker 1:
[72:28] Starting something new isn't just hard, it's terrifying. So much work goes into this thing that you're not entirely sure if it will work out, and it can be hard to make that leap of faith. Trust me, I know. When we started this podcast, I wasn't even sure what we were doing. What if no one listens? What if we make a fool of ourselves? What if no one buys our products? Now I know I was right in believing in us in launching this podcast despite all of the fear and hesitations. It also helps when you have a partner like Shopify by your side. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10 percent of all e-commerce in the US. From household names like Red Bull and Skims to brands that are just getting started. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style. Best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert with world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. It's time to turn those what ifs into with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com/blinds. Go to shopify.com/blinds. That's shopify.com/blinds.