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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Just don't call it a podcast.

Speaker 2:
[00:16] Good morning, folks.

Speaker 1:
[00:17] Ebro Laura Rosenberg and the new Stu. And the new show.

Speaker 3:
[00:21] We're gonna...

Speaker 1:
[00:22] You know, how long is the show new for?

Speaker 4:
[00:25] I was wondering why you said it right now.

Speaker 1:
[00:27] Well, because you just told me about a lady you saw yesterday that was wondering where we were.

Speaker 4:
[00:31] Well, that's why you're not wrong.

Speaker 1:
[00:32] And it's new to her.

Speaker 2:
[00:33] It's new. This is a new show.

Speaker 4:
[00:36] So, what, six months?

Speaker 1:
[00:38] I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[00:38] A year?

Speaker 1:
[00:39] I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[00:40] I mean, relative to the last show, which was years and years and years, I guess you got to give it at least six months to a year to say it's new.

Speaker 1:
[00:46] Yeah. New is one of those tricky things, man.

Speaker 4:
[00:49] Yeah. You're not wrong about that.

Speaker 1:
[00:50] You know what I mean? Because there's people who are gonna find us in four months from now. Like, yo, I had no idea.

Speaker 4:
[00:57] This is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[00:59] I was jamming Lou up yesterday. He said the subscriptions have slowed down, so we got to figure out a way to get our subscriptions up.

Speaker 4:
[01:06] Well, but then, you know, the interesting thing was we were talking about this the other day, too. The subscriptions were growing up, but the live numbers aren't changing.

Speaker 1:
[01:13] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[01:13] The subs aren't leading to live numbers. I mean, we're growing. Maybe video numbers.

Speaker 1:
[01:17] Right.

Speaker 4:
[01:18] The video numbers are continuing to grow, Griff, in the same way. Like, our overall daily views. So, yeah, our views across all of the videos that are released, meaning shorts, the topic videos, all those things are growing. But when you look at the lives every day...

Speaker 1:
[01:36] Lives aren't going to be tough to change. We discussed this.

Speaker 4:
[01:38] Yeah. It's still interesting to me, though. Like, so...

Speaker 1:
[01:40] Because people, because it's live. How many people are going to... You think people are going to change their lives to watch live?

Speaker 4:
[01:45] I think there are some people that were unaware who, when they know that we're live, will start putting it on when they drive.

Speaker 1:
[01:52] You mean people who used to listen to us commuting?

Speaker 4:
[01:54] Correct. I mean, I would think so.

Speaker 2:
[01:57] We still get people who are just discovering where we're at. Correct. I'm with you.

Speaker 1:
[02:01] Laura, you got some big stories you're working for The Rundown. What should people be paying attention to today?

Speaker 2:
[02:05] So, we're finally going to cover this singer David's horrible story with the murder. So, that's going down. Tory Lanez is suing the California Department of Corrections for a lot of money, I'll tell you why. And our girl Kaylani just revealed all the features on her new album. Pretty fire. I'm excited about it. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[02:27] Can you bring up clip number three? We have to discuss this as a family. I think we are, this is our fault here with Mary J. Blige.

Speaker 4:
[02:36] Oh, this is a few days ago.

Speaker 1:
[02:38] I saw this.

Speaker 4:
[02:39] This isn't great.

Speaker 3:
[02:40] I would never laugh at that because my true, honest to true fans did not think that was funny.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[02:47] The whole way that went down was wrong. The whole way they shot it was wrong. It was set up to make exactly what happened in the press happen like that. You really feel that way. Yeah. It's still not a laughing matter to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:01] Damn it.

Speaker 3:
[03:02] You know, because I was deeply, deeply affected. Now, I learned a lot from it. Yeah. But it's not something I'm like, it's not funny. But laugh as if you want, still, I don't care. I hear that. But the bottom line is, my fans were confused, the real true fans, not the people that whatever. Dip in and dip out. Yes. But the people was like, what's going on? And I didn't really know what was going on.

Speaker 1:
[03:27] Right.

Speaker 3:
[03:27] But I had bad representation, bad management, bad everything, and everybody dropped the ball, and I'm holding everything.

Speaker 1:
[03:36] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[03:37] That was a learning curve, but it did show me something. One minute people are with you and one minute they are not. It showed me just how fickle the game is, and it showed me exactly who my friends are.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] It's true.

Speaker 4:
[03:49] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[03:50] A lot of my so-called friends.

Speaker 1:
[03:51] Bring it back up like this?

Speaker 4:
[03:53] No way.

Speaker 3:
[03:55] I was like a disease to people.

Speaker 4:
[03:56] This is not it. It was no one didn't think it was funny, and no one loves her any less when it happened. They just thought it was funny.

Speaker 1:
[04:05] She doesn't.

Speaker 4:
[04:05] But it actually showed how much people love her, because that could kill someone who, like someone's career, if you weren't so respected. But because she was, we howled with laughter at it, and still loved her all the same. Ebro, you don't want to fight it. Come on, bro. You got to laugh at everything.

Speaker 1:
[04:23] No, no, no.

Speaker 4:
[04:25] You can't even talk about it without laughing, and you love her.

Speaker 1:
[04:27] No, no, no. I'm not playing with Mary J. Blige. No, I know you're not. That's family, bro. She said she don't like it, so we don't like it.

Speaker 4:
[04:34] She's not playing anymore.

Speaker 1:
[04:36] She don't like it.

Speaker 4:
[04:38] We don't like it.

Speaker 1:
[04:38] I've known for a long time. I've actually talked to her and other people around her that told, well, other people around her told me years ago. Can y'all stop? This is on the other show when we were still playing it. And I think I told you guys at the time, didn't I? Didn't I tell you guys that she didn't like it and she was upset about it and let it chill?

Speaker 4:
[04:54] I didn't know, but I don't, not because she heard us play it, but in general.

Speaker 1:
[04:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. So we kind of chilled on the Crispy Chicken.

Speaker 4:
[05:03] Damn, but Ebro, you can't even talk about it and I smile like a, like a, like a goof. It's so good.

Speaker 1:
[05:09] But you know why? I think, first of all, if the premise was a comedy from the beginning, maybe she would be receiving it well. I don't think it was, you ever notice how like when you're doing funny stuff with people and they don't think that, it's kind of like Khaled. Remember when we first told Khaled he was funny? He didn't think he was funny. He thought he was serious. And we were like, no, bro, this is funny. And it took him a while to understand his own humor.

Speaker 4:
[05:38] And he really embraced it though.

Speaker 1:
[05:40] And then he leaned in and made a gazillion dollars.

Speaker 4:
[05:42] Correct.

Speaker 1:
[05:43] Right? I think in this scenario similarly, Mary didn't go into this thinking this was a comedy.

Speaker 4:
[05:49] But how, I guess my question would be, then when you were singing those words out of your mouth.

Speaker 1:
[05:56] You didn't think it was funny?

Speaker 4:
[05:57] What did you think could, there were only two ways for it to go.

Speaker 1:
[06:02] I understand, but not everybody has comedic comprehension.

Speaker 4:
[06:06] But then what would you think it is?

Speaker 1:
[06:07] I don't know, bro, but I have experienced the fact that things that us who kind of understand comedy a little bit, I wouldn't even say everybody thinks we're funny. You know what I mean? But we understand the concept of the different types of comedy from slapstick to dark comedy. Like we get dry comedy. Some people don't get it, bro. They don't get it.

Speaker 4:
[06:27] But do you hear what I'm saying though?

Speaker 1:
[06:28] I do. I don't understand how somebody got in front of a microphone and sang Crispy Chicken, Fresh Lettuce, wrapped up in a... with an ad-lib and didn't think it was funny. I hear what you're saying, but this is what we're dealing with. And it's our beloved Mary J. And she says it's not funny. She doesn't think it's funny. So y'all stop laughing. The laughter's over.

Speaker 4:
[06:52] This is not going to play well either. You guys don't...

Speaker 2:
[06:54] There's a video that I get every...

Speaker 4:
[06:57] Oh, all the time.

Speaker 2:
[06:58] Six months, someone sent it to me with Yandy of us singing it in the studio.

Speaker 1:
[07:02] Wait, Yandy was with us?

Speaker 4:
[07:04] Oh, Yandy went hard body karate with it with us.

Speaker 1:
[07:07] Sounded good singing it.

Speaker 4:
[07:08] Oh, yeah, she did. She was into it and loved it. And we were all yucking it up, having a good time.

Speaker 1:
[07:14] I wish I could... Maybe there's a day we convince Mary to find out it's funny.

Speaker 4:
[07:17] Well, the problem is...

Speaker 1:
[07:19] By that video? No, and not anytime soon.

Speaker 4:
[07:22] Because this thing is what, 10 years old?

Speaker 1:
[07:23] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[07:25] Because the reason I'm saying it was a case lesson in what not to do is that we all know, and this is something, Ebro, you pushed on me, I think, at some point, was just laughing at anything sort of that is bad at first.

Speaker 1:
[07:38] You have to.

Speaker 4:
[07:39] Unless it's something that's truly harmed others or something.

Speaker 1:
[07:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[07:44] That didn't harm anyone. It didn't even harm Mary's brand. I'm sorry, it didn't. She just didn't like it, and I get it. But yeah, I would stop fighting it. I would lean, I would play it at the shows.

Speaker 1:
[07:56] I would lean all the way.

Speaker 2:
[07:57] But at the time, she got backlash, and it probably hurt her feelings. Like, oh, man.

Speaker 1:
[08:01] Stop looking at me like I'm looking for the file to bring up the Crispy Chicken.

Speaker 4:
[08:04] I'm not gonna bring up the Crispy Chicken. Why did you say that when we saw you?

Speaker 5:
[08:06] Look at your face. Look at your face.

Speaker 1:
[08:09] I can't help it. I can't help it. I'm terrible.

Speaker 4:
[08:14] No, you're that great. You've been that great. Just don't worry about it.

Speaker 2:
[08:18] Let's just move on, okay?

Speaker 4:
[08:19] Let's move on because you're harming our relationship.

Speaker 1:
[08:24] By what?

Speaker 4:
[08:25] Just continue. By even bringing this up.

Speaker 1:
[08:27] I should have not brought this up today is what you're saying.

Speaker 4:
[08:30] It depends what kind of relationship you want to have.

Speaker 1:
[08:32] I love Mary J. Blige and I will continue to support her and rally for her and all of that. I do not want to harm that relationship. Playing Crispy Chicken, fresh lettuce.

Speaker 4:
[08:46] I think of all the things that I would be upset by 20 years later, it would be hateration and holleration more than the video.

Speaker 2:
[08:54] Can we move on? You're not making it any better. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] You know how I feel about hateration and holleration. You're setting me up right now.

Speaker 6:
[09:03] Facts.

Speaker 2:
[09:04] This is so wild.

Speaker 4:
[09:06] You see what he does?

Speaker 6:
[09:07] Yes, I saw it. You see what he does?

Speaker 5:
[09:09] I saw it.

Speaker 4:
[09:10] But it happened organically the other day because Natalie said something about hateration. She was like, oh, hateration. I was like, oh, I remember Ebro. He was in a way about hateration. The record's great.

Speaker 1:
[09:22] No, no, no.

Speaker 4:
[09:22] I love the damn record.

Speaker 1:
[09:24] By the way, comedy. I don't believe anyone was in the studio thinking that wasn't funny.

Speaker 4:
[09:31] Right. Like this is dead serious.

Speaker 1:
[09:32] It was supposed to be. But what happened to me with hateration is the same thing that happened to me with DMX Party Up. I saw a bunch of white people singing it seriously.

Speaker 4:
[09:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:45] I was like, I can't do it. Can't do it.

Speaker 4:
[09:48] Hateration. You saw them singing along.

Speaker 1:
[09:50] Oh my God. Then I think I even heard people try to use it in a sentence.

Speaker 5:
[09:55] No, that's not true.

Speaker 4:
[09:56] How would you use it?

Speaker 1:
[09:57] Because they're hateration.

Speaker 4:
[09:58] You know what? I'm noticing a lot of hateration these days.

Speaker 1:
[10:02] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[10:02] No, I've never heard anyone do that. And holleration would make even-

Speaker 1:
[10:05] I can't deal with it. But listen, maybe one day we can revisit.

Speaker 4:
[10:10] But if you're an all-time, I just feel like this, you're an all-time great icon.

Speaker 1:
[10:14] Who cares? But look, that's why I say it's the premise. It's how she got, how it happened. Like she said, she had bad management.

Speaker 4:
[10:21] Right.

Speaker 1:
[10:21] That reminds her that whatever that was at the time-

Speaker 4:
[10:24] That's a good point. It probably is triggering of other things that were generally bad at that time. Right. That makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[10:32] You know what I mean? And then maybe the money she got was, she didn't get the money she wanted. Like so many things.

Speaker 4:
[10:37] It made it even less funny. You might have thought it was funny if the money wasn't funny. But the money was funny. So another commercial-

Speaker 1:
[10:42] Now it ain't funny at all.

Speaker 4:
[10:43] Now it ain't funny.

Speaker 1:
[10:43] At all. At all. Ebro's algo is chucked full of this most recent news cycle around- I mean this is switching gears, but Black Mamas, the Black Mothers, and the mortality rate around Black Motherhood, which is a very serious conversation.

Speaker 2:
[11:04] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[11:05] Laura, you brought this up multiple times on the show. Because last week, and I don't even know if we still have the RFK clip where RFK was in Congress. Clip six. It's clip six.

Speaker 2:
[11:19] Oh, I saw this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:23] Thank you, Griff. No, seven. Sorry, seven. Nix is, six is Nix. You changed. It's clip seven. Thanks for catching that, Ra'san. Good catch, man. Ra'san puts one on the board. There you go. Even though he can't find seven.

Speaker 4:
[11:39] But still, but he didn't put play six.

Speaker 1:
[11:42] No, okay. Oh, it's a mess. No, I'm right here. I'm looking right at it. It's number seven. Oh, it's a disaster.

Speaker 4:
[11:51] You might have to explain this.

Speaker 1:
[11:52] Well, anyway, it's RFK. He's being questioned on black maternal mortality rates. And the woman questioning him is basically like, look, you guys have worked to remove conversations around race. So how are you gonna reverse this trend, basically, if we can't talk about black mothers?

Speaker 2:
[12:12] If you can't use the word black.

Speaker 4:
[12:15] Because their anti-DEI stuff carries into all of that stuff.

Speaker 1:
[12:18] Into the usage of just terms.

Speaker 2:
[12:20] Yes. And he just kept bringing up, yeah, DEI is divisive and this and that. She was like, how are we gonna address something when you cannot use the word black?

Speaker 4:
[12:30] Interesting thing is, I wonder whether he even feels that way. Does he feel that way or is he just copying what he's, that's the edict he has?

Speaker 1:
[12:37] I mean, we have to assume they feel this way. We can't keep giving them passes.

Speaker 4:
[12:40] Well, no, he doesn't get a pass no matter what. Your job is to care about people's health. If you follow that in knowing it could endanger people, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. You're equally terrible for doing it.

Speaker 2:
[12:52] He was twisting and turning, trying to find ways to answer. He looked like a buffoon up there. And this woman is looking at him like, answer me, it's...

Speaker 4:
[13:01] Every clip I see of him is not great.

Speaker 1:
[13:03] And they say he's getting the shakes too, by the way. Because you know, RFK is as tan as he is and buff as he is, he's in his seventies too.

Speaker 4:
[13:10] Oh yeah, he's up there.

Speaker 1:
[13:11] He's up there. He's in his seventies as well. So I saw a whole report the other day of when he was in this session, people were watching his head kind of get the shakes and they were like, unsure if this is just a normal kind of tremors that sometimes old people get or is this some sort of Parkinson's beginning, you said it.

Speaker 4:
[13:28] Well, I mean, I feel like we've always, you know, there's always been a shocking lack of irony to RFK having the job that he does and caring about the things that he cares about, given how he presents.

Speaker 1:
[13:41] Well, they said the there was a report that came out the other day that he once stopped and cut off some roadkill penis.

Speaker 4:
[13:47] I heard about that.

Speaker 2:
[13:48] What?

Speaker 1:
[13:48] You never heard the story?

Speaker 2:
[13:49] No.

Speaker 1:
[13:50] He's got this thing with roadkill.

Speaker 4:
[13:52] Yeah, you know, he loves roadkill.

Speaker 2:
[13:53] You're just going to pull over, find roadkill and cut off a penis?

Speaker 1:
[13:56] Raccoon penis, right?

Speaker 2:
[13:57] Why? Research.

Speaker 3:
[13:59] I literally research.

Speaker 1:
[14:01] Why do you need to study a dead raccoon's penis?

Speaker 4:
[14:06] He's he's an interesting fellow, RFK.

Speaker 1:
[14:10] And you still we still haven't found the clip, Rasaan.

Speaker 2:
[14:11] He just keeps it in a jar.

Speaker 1:
[14:13] No, and none of you guys are communicating about the clip. You don't have the clip.

Speaker 4:
[14:17] But what was anything revealed by it though, or he just squirmed?

Speaker 1:
[14:20] I just wanted you guys to see it because it would set up the next thing I wanted to talk about, which is Mayor Mamdani. Because I said the other day that we wanted to start giving some Mamdani updates because people it seems are not getting their daily dose of the work Mamdani is doing. And do you have clip eight, by the way? Let's try that one. Yeah, this is Mayor Mamdani, committed to investing in care that supports black mothers. Black maternal health is a matter of equity.

Speaker 4:
[14:51] In New York City, black women, wait, go back. I want to read it. We're not that fast. In New York City, black women are five times more likely to die from pregnancy related causes. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[15:00] And obviously this is tied to, you know, health matters, access to health. So they're going to be investing in doula services. Resource distribution, health insurance, guidance, so that people know exactly what's going on in this Black Maternal Health Week here in New York City.

Speaker 2:
[15:16] It's so important, man. Like at the time that one of my girlfriends was pregnant, her niece died giving birth. And it was just like we talked about it and it was, and there was so much negligence around it. And it's, it's terrible because it's like, you guys, it's so, it happened so often and people just are not aware. I saw this really interesting clip on, I should have sent it to you guys. This one doctor who started, opened it up like, you know, in med school, I became a little racist, right? So you're like, oh, let me see what this is about. So she was just talking about how she was shadowing this doctor. And there was a black woman, an older black woman who was dressed up in a beautiful dress and heels. She's there to see the doctor was saying she had severe back pain, right? So he looks at her and he's like, you're wearing heels, probably not that bad. You're good. Like totally dismissed her.

Speaker 4:
[16:05] You're wearing heels. You're probably good.

Speaker 5:
[16:07] Yes. Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[16:09] And then as she walked out, she was just like, wow. She realized later because other people had to explain to her as a black woman, if you show up in sweatpants and a hoodie, you are not going to be taken serious. So this woman dressed up to be quote unquote presentable, just so they could take her seriously. And you can't win. You just cannot win. And it was really, it was a white woman.

Speaker 4:
[16:35] And it was based, and this was based, so you're talking about an example of it being sheerly based on race, not related to economic status.

Speaker 2:
[16:42] Yeah, but she was just explaining.

Speaker 1:
[16:43] Appearance of economics.

Speaker 4:
[16:44] Yeah, yeah, not even appearance of.

Speaker 2:
[16:46] She was just explaining what she saw, and she was like, I couldn't believe it, looking back, how it was just all these microaggressions, all these ways that black women are trying to show up just to get seen.

Speaker 4:
[16:57] This is one of the biggest, this is one of the biggest issues, I think, with this whole horrible, incendiary, anti quote, anti DEI world that we're currently living in, where everyone is trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist, is that even before they were trying to roll back and fight against any sort of awareness of racism, no one understood this sort of racism already. I think it really is a struggle for white folks to see that these things could exist.

Speaker 2:
[17:31] And believe.

Speaker 4:
[17:31] And truly believe it. It's like it-

Speaker 1:
[17:33] Well, but it's also, do we have the clip? All right, let's have the clip.

Speaker 6:
[17:38] Do you have an idea of how we could solve the black maternal mortality crisis if we can't say black?

Speaker 7:
[17:43] President Trump is trying to end eviction in this country, not so-

Speaker 6:
[17:46] Sorry, not eviction.

Speaker 7:
[17:48] During the last four years. That's what DEI did, it divided people, it polarized people.

Speaker 6:
[17:54] No, no, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about eviction. We're talking about health care.

Speaker 7:
[17:56] I'm calling about DEI.

Speaker 6:
[17:58] We're talking about health care.

Speaker 7:
[17:59] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[17:59] Disparities. So what we're asking is, is if you attack DEI and then we have a crisis that impacts one population over another, but you cannot direct specific spending or research or interventions to that population, how do you solve the problem?

Speaker 7:
[18:17] Do you think the federal government should be paying for DEI?

Speaker 6:
[18:20] I think the federal government has a vested interest in ensuring that its citizens survive childbirth.

Speaker 7:
[18:26] Well, we are meeting that obligation.

Speaker 6:
[18:29] We are not.

Speaker 2:
[18:30] We are not.

Speaker 1:
[18:35] But let's take it a step further. If there is something that is affecting only women and not men, but if there, how do you now talk about this?

Speaker 4:
[18:45] It's, it's, we're trying, should we do this? Let me do what Ebro would say. Why are we doing this? Why are y'all doing this? Why are you doing this?

Speaker 1:
[18:52] I think it's important for people to understand why their voting matters. And this is why I continue to bring this stuff up.

Speaker 4:
[18:58] Yeah, it's-

Speaker 1:
[18:58] It's because as we get towards the midterms, there's gonna be an influx of individuals either talking about why voting is rigged or not important. We've talked about this before. The only people ever talking about not voting are black folks.

Speaker 4:
[19:21] You think only?

Speaker 1:
[19:22] Name another population that you see talking about actively not participating in the system. I'll wait. Have you- I never see white people on social media encouraging other white people to not vote.

Speaker 2:
[19:40] Not vote.

Speaker 1:
[19:42] I've never seen Hispanic people getting on the Internet, encouraging people to not vote or say that it's rigged. I haven't seen-

Speaker 4:
[19:52] Maybe it happened.

Speaker 2:
[19:52] The rig for ES, but I haven't seen-

Speaker 1:
[19:55] I've seen people talk about it being rigged, but to not participate at all.

Speaker 4:
[20:00] I see a lot of people of all backgrounds demand doing the or else game for the Democrats. If you don't give me someone who's blank, we don't want so-and-so, so you better. I don't know-

Speaker 1:
[20:12] I'm fine with that. Holding people accountable, making sure you're-

Speaker 4:
[20:14] I don't know that I see it then lead to the-

Speaker 1:
[20:17] I don't vote.

Speaker 4:
[20:18] Holding my vote was definitely a thing that I saw moving around for a variety of people, quote unquote, holding your vote. I hear what you're saying though. But also that is your algorithm. Wouldn't that be what you see in general?

Speaker 1:
[20:29] Well, that's why I'm asking others if you see it.

Speaker 2:
[20:32] Yeah, I haven't personally. I'm sure it exists, but I haven't seen it personally.

Speaker 1:
[20:36] Do you know people, but you guys obviously know people in your real lives that don't vote who are not black.

Speaker 4:
[20:41] Shawnee. Oh.

Speaker 1:
[20:42] Who are not black.

Speaker 4:
[20:43] Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[20:44] Yes. I know.

Speaker 1:
[20:47] Do you know real life non-black folks? Yes. That don't vote.

Speaker 4:
[20:51] Syph.

Speaker 1:
[20:52] There you go.

Speaker 4:
[20:52] Boom.

Speaker 5:
[20:53] A Puerto Rican.

Speaker 4:
[20:55] Puerto Rican who wants to be white. But I say that respectfully as my friend. I mean, how long can you hang out at... How long can you do improv for before people say that? No, but Syph and Shani are the only people I can really think of who I know who are like, no, I don't vote.

Speaker 1:
[21:09] So maybe it's a hip hop thing.

Speaker 4:
[21:14] Well, Shani, it's a Rasta thing, correct?

Speaker 1:
[21:16] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[21:18] And Syph also does want to be Rasta. So that connects also. But no, I don't know if I know any white people who actively tell me I do not vote. I don't know that I know anyone like that. I'm sure they exist to Laura's point. I'm sure they do. Yeah, but that's important that we just say I'm sure they do. Because the Ebro's overall point.

Speaker 1:
[21:37] You know.

Speaker 2:
[21:38] He's watching it.

Speaker 4:
[21:39] And there's a reason for it. Because people don't want black people voting. So in some way it's working out the way people want it.

Speaker 1:
[21:46] It's 1000 percent working out the way people want it. They have a big election today in Virginia to change the voting map.

Speaker 8:
[21:58] Colorado, Florida, New Jersey, South Carolina and Virginia all today.

Speaker 1:
[22:03] Colorado, New Jersey, Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. South Carolina and Virginia all vote to change the voting map. They all have elections today. But they're not all about the voting maps. No. Got it.

Speaker 2:
[22:17] And if you live in any of these states, please go out and just check to make sure that you are registered and all your information is correct. I can't stress that enough.

Speaker 1:
[22:26] Can you give me the woman's name that just won the special election in New Jersey?

Speaker 2:
[22:32] Oh, I just saw her.

Speaker 1:
[22:33] Who is that? In your district, right, Griff? And she's a Democrat, progressive.

Speaker 4:
[22:40] Dayton Joey in the chat says, my white friends who are libertarians don't vote and so on.

Speaker 1:
[22:47] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[22:47] How many white libertarian friends you got? There are a lot of libertarians out there. A lot of those libertarians, though, were Bernie. Then some became Trump.

Speaker 1:
[22:57] Not voting, never met him.

Speaker 4:
[22:59] Evelyn says, my white husband doesn't vote.

Speaker 1:
[23:01] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[23:02] Well. Oh, her name is Annalilia Mejia.

Speaker 1:
[23:07] Annalilia Mejia.

Speaker 2:
[23:08] Yeah, representing New Jersey 11.

Speaker 1:
[23:10] Progressive Democrat pulled off a decisive win against a Republican opponent to serve the remaining term of a vacant New Jersey house seat. So this is big for the house. That was Mikey Sherrill's seat, who's now the governor of New Jersey. But this Annalilia Mejia would not take APEC money, was going up against an APEC situation, which this continues to be a trend around the country.

Speaker 4:
[23:33] Correct. And I'm frustrated with people not at least being happy about that. Here's what annoys me, bro. I understand right now not being motivated by Gavin Newsom. I'm not particularly excited by the prospect of Gavin Newsom. And he's been wishy-washy on this subject. Like, it seems like he's slowly moving the right direction. But he's reading the tea leaves. It's not based authentically in his beliefs, it seems. He's seeing where people are going. That being said, you had people that you were like, we want you to recognize that we don't like what's going on in Gaza. We don't like this whole APEC thing. We weren't aware of it. Now, we are and we don't like it. And you have seen a lot of mainstream Democrats start to say, all right, we hear you, we're not going to take APEC money. And people still see that and go, no, it's too late, you did. No, guys, if you're saying you have a demand and there are Democrats out there who may not be perfect, but they're hearing your demand and turning down money, I'm not saying you need to give them the Nobel Peace Prize, but recognize that the Democrats are, appears in some mainstream places starting to move over to where you want them to go.

Speaker 1:
[24:51] I think that's a mature take, but I think the people you're hearing from probably aren't that mature in their voting experiences because I, many, many years ago, realized that if you can actually find a politician that's willing to listen and make adjustments either while in office or doing so on their campaign, that's exactly what you want, right? Because you're not electing people, and this is I know hard for a lot of people to understand. You're not hiring people, which is what an election is. You are hiring someone for a job. They are paid by your tax dollars. You're not hiring somebody because of their, quote, unquote, personal alignment with your life. You're hiring someone to do a job. If they get in there and they don't do the job they said they were gonna do, we fire them and we hire someone else. That's what elections are. That's why I never liked the whole convo of like, yo, you know, the poll goes out, would this presidential candidate be great to have a beer with? I don't give a shit. I do. I honestly, I don't wanna know that he has a beer. I wanna know that he gets to work on, he or she gets to work on time and does what the people who are asking them to do.

Speaker 4:
[26:14] Right. And understands what the issues are at hand and works to fix them.

Speaker 1:
[26:19] All of this, like, what is it? Like, idolatry over politicians has been on my nerves since Obama.

Speaker 4:
[26:28] No, no, no, remember, it was big before that, though, because the Bush having a beer with Bush was big.

Speaker 1:
[26:35] True.

Speaker 4:
[26:35] When Bush was like an idiot and everyone was freaking out.

Speaker 1:
[26:38] Yeah, but he looks cool, like you wanna have a beer with him. Bill Clinton with the saxophone. I was teenage years, and I was like, all right, play the saxophone. Sure. Cool. The whole like, Bill Clinton's black. No, he's not. No, he's got an office in Harlem, though. So what?

Speaker 4:
[26:54] He went on Arsenio. So what?

Speaker 1:
[26:57] So what? But, you know, look.

Speaker 4:
[26:59] People are still very affected by these personal.

Speaker 1:
[27:02] They have a very, yes, and these people are just there to do a job. And by the way, we can like, I liked Bill Clinton. He was cool. You know what I'm saying? Yes, fine. Obama loves singing. You got him in Zoran? You got him in Zoran Wheels on the Bus? We played it yesterday. We might have some new... Oh, you got Delete got rid of it. They did the Wheels on the Bus thing.

Speaker 4:
[27:23] I saw. Zoran loves Wheels on the Bus, which, by the way, is perfect. That is literally right in my wheelhouse.

Speaker 1:
[27:27] Well, no. Well, yeah. Well, not only that, but he's working on free buses. So let's keep singing Wheels on the Bus.

Speaker 4:
[27:32] Right. So that song, she likes Wheels on the Bus.

Speaker 1:
[27:35] But it was a big deal. We said it yesterday. Barry Oh sitting with Zoran, right?

Speaker 4:
[27:40] It's a big deal to see a mainstream Democrat like Barry Oh sitting with Zoran. Is that what you mean?

Speaker 1:
[27:44] I think it's on purpose. It's it's 1000% Barry Oh, who's the, for all intensive purposes, the face of the Democratic Party. He's the most powerful Democrat, who's more powerful than Obama.

Speaker 4:
[27:55] Well, certainly most popular. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:57] You know what I mean? So if he's going to go do that right after all of these other mainstream Democrats refuse to endorse Zoran, it's clearly Barry Oh saying, let me put my arm around this guy. He's popular out here.

Speaker 4:
[28:08] And right after Zoran's boy, his buddy, his text buddy Trump turned on him too.

Speaker 2:
[28:14] Really?

Speaker 1:
[28:14] Trump turned on him?

Speaker 4:
[28:15] Yeah, last week.

Speaker 1:
[28:16] I missed it.

Speaker 2:
[28:17] He's got a truth social saying how he's destroying New York City.

Speaker 4:
[28:20] He's destroying New York.

Speaker 2:
[28:21] How?

Speaker 1:
[28:23] Do you have any specifics?

Speaker 4:
[28:24] Oh yeah, you know Trump and specific, hit the button.

Speaker 2:
[28:27] Oh, really quickly, we have a super chat.

Speaker 8:
[28:29] Oh no, did I lose it?

Speaker 4:
[28:30] I saw one.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[28:32] You mean the shout out to my wife?

Speaker 2:
[28:33] Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:35] You got it?

Speaker 4:
[28:36] Yes. Shout out to my wife, Dula Aisha.

Speaker 2:
[28:40] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[28:41] Spelled at Dula, D-O-U-L-A-I-A-Y-E-S-H-A, Dula Aisha. She has been an advocate for maternal care for the underserved. Proud of you.

Speaker 2:
[28:52] Oh, I love that. Love that.

Speaker 4:
[28:54] We love to see that. You guys on a different note, but a real life note. So, you know, I remember when you both had kids, like, seeing how things would affect you differently. And when you haven't had kids yet, all you can do is be like, wow, like, does it really, like, hit so differently? Like, I was already an emotional person. You guys know that about me. Yeah. Bro, at WWE, you know WWE, say whatever you want about them, no matter who's in ownership. This is to me about the talent and the people who handle the talent department. Their love for make-a-wish and things like that has always been highest level. It's the most unseen and most grand to wishes in history, etc. There was a girl backstage who has been coming to things for a while, who is not doing well. It's not going the right way. Guys, I kept it together when I would see her in the hallway with her mom or caretaker. It's indescribable how different it is now. My inability to even be like... And I want to be supportive. I don't want to be weak to this family that's obviously being very strong. Right. But guys, I don't know how people... I just... It was in... I needed to gather myself multiple times. It's just so hard.

Speaker 2:
[30:16] It does hit you different as a parent because I always joke with my friends.

Speaker 5:
[30:20] I was like, I was a cold-hearted bitch before I had Kenza.

Speaker 2:
[30:23] I just didn't care. I've always been...

Speaker 1:
[30:25] No, you said it right the first time. Yeah, I mean, you didn't know what it is, right?

Speaker 4:
[30:29] What I'm talking about, we all would have been affected by no matter what. There's no human wouldn't be affected by what I'm talking about. You'd be affected. But like the, hey, I'm going to need to step away now.

Speaker 2:
[30:40] Yes, it's a real thing.

Speaker 4:
[30:41] And gather myself.

Speaker 1:
[30:44] Or you learn to breathe through it. I've been crying at the Little League World Series for 25 years.

Speaker 4:
[30:52] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[30:53] You know what I'm saying? Win the winners and the losers. You know what I mean? Like, don't... Man, that ESPN 30 for 30 was getting me years ago.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] I know.

Speaker 1:
[31:02] You know what I mean? Like, all of those stories of families working through things and, you know, all of those things got all of us. But yeah, when you have... Listen, wait until you're seeing your kid accomplish things. Or, you know what I'm saying? And really...

Speaker 4:
[31:18] Well, that's the next level. This is like more... You know, this is something that's just sad and emotive and it makes you think about your own child and mortality and stuff like that. That's the next level when you're talking about. We're just seeing something that displays pride in a child affects you that much.

Speaker 1:
[31:35] Yeah, man. I mean, but it's... Listen, you know, I think that's part of the human experience. That's the beauty of it. You know what I mean? Of us being able to go through all of the ups and downs and all of the emotions and feel, you know what I mean? Like, it's good that you feel that deeply. But like Laura says, she was a cold-hearted bitch, and I'm glad she's not anymore.

Speaker 5:
[31:58] No, I cry for everything. I open this app, and I'm like, I cry for strangers on the Internet every day.

Speaker 4:
[32:04] Yeah, I mean, listen, some of those videos, some of those family videos, the basic, here's what she thinks I see, here's what I really see.

Speaker 1:
[32:11] Yo, bro, I was crying the other day, and I couldn't even... I didn't even bring it to jazz. I just brought it to jazz's attention last night of what happened in Roy Wilkins Park to a 15-year-old boy. Shot and killed. Showed up to a park. They had one of those teen takeovers at the park. It was supposed to be a water balloon fight, and he ends up being multiple fights at the park, and some dude just shot this ninth grader, bro, at the park, and there was people watching, other kids watching, bro. And I was like, yo, like, I just start crying. Like, he was just a regular ninth grader who went to the park in his neighborhood.

Speaker 2:
[32:57] I know.

Speaker 1:
[32:58] You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[32:59] The baby in Brooklyn's who got me a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 2:
[33:00] That's the one too. That's the one.

Speaker 4:
[33:02] They're showing pictures of the baby, like a nine-month-old.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[33:06] Eight kids were killed in like, a mass shooting.

Speaker 1:
[33:09] Oh, yeah. Yeah, then there was a mass, that was Shreveport, Louisiana, where that was a dad.

Speaker 4:
[33:14] And there was a seven kids and another kid.

Speaker 1:
[33:15] And the two moms.

Speaker 4:
[33:16] Oh, and two moms.

Speaker 1:
[33:17] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[33:18] Yeah. A lot of heavy stuff has happened.

Speaker 1:
[33:20] But like, you know, here in New York City, the attorney general, they got, they're telling the guy, they shot the kid, yo, turn yourself in. The community's like, yo, you don't turn yourself in. We know exactly where you are. We coming to find you, bro. Like, it's on that, they on that type of time. With the attorney general there at the mic.

Speaker 4:
[33:37] And they know who it is?

Speaker 1:
[33:38] Yeah. They have camera footage of the guy, and they've identified him, got his name, the whole thing.

Speaker 4:
[33:43] How old was the person who did it?

Speaker 1:
[33:45] I don't know how old the person was.

Speaker 5:
[33:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:50] And I'ma just let y'all know, parents, in multiple cities around the country, they are cracking down on teens just showing up to locations.

Speaker 5:
[34:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:03] Cause they're doing this, teens, remember where it was one a few months ago in Jersey out at the mall where some hundreds of kids descended on a mall and it was just like chaos and fights and all of this. And you know, using social media for this sort of thing is definitely the new ingredient. When I was a kid, this stuff used to spread like word of mouth through schools, yo, so and so and so and so about to fight at such and such park right after school. And it'd be a hundred kids at the park. And fights breaking out and all that. So that was happening when I was a kid. And yes, kids getting shot too when I was a kid. But it just, you know, as a parent, you try to work to obviously make sure your kid avoids all this stuff.

Speaker 4:
[34:46] The social media of it.

Speaker 1:
[34:47] Even though it's not new.

Speaker 4:
[34:48] Does make it worse, though.

Speaker 1:
[34:49] Of course it does.

Speaker 4:
[34:50] It's the promotional tool of it. Plus people seeing it and being influenced by it.

Speaker 1:
[34:53] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[34:54] So you have people just, you know, the algorithm loves to show you a fight.

Speaker 1:
[34:58] Nah, X, I can't get through one video without the next video being a fight or some sort of.

Speaker 4:
[35:04] So I'm not sure what will happen in the future. I protected my X account. I was looking at the different ways to get rid of X. I protected my account, which means nothing I tweet. Like, it just basically means I won't get new followers and I won't show my stuff to new followers. It's as kind of shut down as it can be without completely shutting it down. And then I deleted it the other day. That app brings me no joy. Yeah, it's step one. Step one for me is Twitter because I get no joy from it. And I'm sorry. This whole pretending I'm promoting and it may give us. I put up our thing on there. It doesn't do ish.

Speaker 2:
[35:42] No, no, no, no. Garbage. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[35:43] So that was step one. Instagram wastes a lot of my time and that's a problem. But it doesn't make me miserable to be on. It's just the time suck.

Speaker 1:
[35:53] Right.

Speaker 4:
[35:53] Twitter is literally I see horrible things. The only interactions I get are people telling me to shut up that they hate me. I'm like, why would I be here?

Speaker 1:
[36:03] I jump on Twitter to just throw grenades. It's my favorite.

Speaker 2:
[36:06] I know he loves doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:08] I see what they're coming at me about and I just throw something at the wall, just throw meat.

Speaker 4:
[36:13] I don't like it. I don't like it. And I don't like, by the way, that our show, I now have to, I'm just being honest with you guys, I have to be uber mindful on this damn show. We are clipped so much, bro. The nastiness of the way our Diana Rossini conversation got clipped the other day, bro.

Speaker 1:
[36:28] I didn't see any of it. What happened?

Speaker 4:
[36:30] That was the day that set me off. I'm like, all right, I'm not looking at that.

Speaker 1:
[36:33] What were they saying?

Speaker 4:
[36:34] No, a big football person clipped our conversation and specific, and by the way, I'm not taking blame for this. I need to be mindful with how I use my words. But clipped the part where I was like saying how guys are extra weird if a woman's attractive.

Speaker 1:
[36:49] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[36:49] And I was like, you know, Diana has a hot body or something like that. They literally made the headline. This is a big football outlet. Uh, Peter Rosenberg's, you know, something. Diana Rossini has a hot body. I was like, I did 30 minutes talking about incels and how I think it's unfair to her. And they clipped the only word. It was a big outlet. And that's what Twitter is. It's literally like, how can we take nastiness?

Speaker 1:
[37:18] Yeah, but it's all nasty. It's all nasty. I'm on Instagram Live right now.

Speaker 4:
[37:22] Oh, by the way, Instagram Live is throttled. How many people you got in there?

Speaker 1:
[37:25] 125.

Speaker 4:
[37:26] Bro, you know how many followers? Ebro has like nearly a million followers. That used to be, you're live back in the day at this time.

Speaker 1:
[37:34] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[37:35] People should see that you're on live. You should have like a thousand in there.

Speaker 1:
[37:40] Now they dropped off because they don't like, oh, well, either it was all trolls because I get a lot of trolls right away. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[37:47] Well, the Drake cats are out for you. I saw the Pitchforks yesterday.

Speaker 1:
[37:51] What were they doing yesterday?

Speaker 4:
[37:52] No, I just saw you.

Speaker 1:
[37:54] Me asking because academics was like, you're not allowed to be happy that Drake's album is coming out. I was like, I can't be happy that Drake's album is coming out. I'm happy that Drake's album is coming out. I'm excited for Drake. I know you can't. Stay on that side. I was like, what's the side?

Speaker 4:
[38:09] Well, no.

Speaker 1:
[38:09] I don't know what's the side.

Speaker 4:
[38:11] But you don't want.

Speaker 1:
[38:12] No, no, no. Like literally, as a hip hop, in a battle, this is what we talked about yesterday. There was a battle.

Speaker 4:
[38:17] Yes. And there were and there are sides. Right.

Speaker 1:
[38:19] Right. Because it's a competition.

Speaker 4:
[38:20] The battle's over.

Speaker 1:
[38:21] The battle's over. Now we're just enjoying music, right?

Speaker 4:
[38:24] No, we can't just enjoy music. We talked about it and I heard you guys talking about it because we have these lines and the super fans and that's what they think because they're not bright.

Speaker 1:
[38:32] Well, they're not real hip hop fans.

Speaker 4:
[38:33] And they're not real hip hop fans.

Speaker 1:
[38:35] Because in hip hop, we enjoy good hip hop.

Speaker 4:
[38:36] The only thing that annoys me about you is that you like kind of act confused, like you don't know why they're being this way.

Speaker 1:
[38:41] Well, because I want people to try to explain it. You can't. I'm encouraging them. Explain your nonsense. Explain why when we're enjoying hip hop, there's sides. There's not sides. There's we like the album or you don't like the album. It's not because I like or dislike the individual. There's individuals I don't like in hip hop.

Speaker 4:
[39:03] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[39:03] They make great albums, fire albums. So I'm excited for a Drake album.

Speaker 2:
[39:10] You can't.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] I'm not allowed to be.

Speaker 2:
[39:12] No.

Speaker 4:
[39:13] Obviously, it's a silly thing that people would feel that way. But also, you're ridiculous for even showing any surprise about it.

Speaker 1:
[39:21] Well, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 4:
[39:22] You are a poster child.

Speaker 1:
[39:23] I am not surprised.

Speaker 4:
[39:24] You're like top of the board of Drake House.

Speaker 1:
[39:26] Well, that's what she said.

Speaker 4:
[39:27] But I'm not surprised. And I stupidly have put myself there too.

Speaker 1:
[39:30] But I'm not surprised that people think this way. I'm challenging the thought. I think they're idiots. I will continually think they're idiots.

Speaker 4:
[39:39] You're not wrong.

Speaker 1:
[39:40] And then I will still say.

Speaker 4:
[39:41] And you'll bump the album.

Speaker 1:
[39:42] And I will talk about the album, celebrate the album, talk about what I like on the album, all of it. I'm excited for the Drake album.

Speaker 4:
[39:50] I hope that it's all with you.

Speaker 1:
[39:51] And I will encourage all of them that are like, nah, stay on that side. I was playing the Party Next Door album. I love Nokia. It was a great song. It was multiple things I liked on the...

Speaker 4:
[40:07] You won't stop trying. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:
[40:09] Trying what?

Speaker 4:
[40:09] You're telling the truth and acting like it's going to affect an opinion.

Speaker 1:
[40:13] I'm not trying to affect opinion. I'm trying to affect dialogue. That's it. I just want to have dialogue.

Speaker 4:
[40:17] What's the purpose of the dialogue?

Speaker 1:
[40:18] The purpose of the dialogue is for smart people to go, oh, is that the dialogue?

Speaker 4:
[40:22] Smart people already know. Smart people know you can listen to Drake and like it. Morons don't and they're not changing. You're being me right now is what I'm saying. We can't affect these people. We have lost... They are going to do what they do. I was feeling a little bit... This is so typical. I was feeling a little bit of a way the other day about how hard I went at Drake at the thing. You guys think I went too hard?

Speaker 1:
[40:43] How hard you go at Drake?

Speaker 4:
[40:46] Was Ebro... You were here. The... You have no friends and you can't dress? Oh, he wasn't here.

Speaker 1:
[40:51] Wait, what did you do?

Speaker 4:
[40:53] You wasn't there for that?

Speaker 1:
[40:54] Why'd you do that?

Speaker 4:
[40:56] Because he was laughing at my living room. He was laughing at the fact that my kitchen and my living room, my office were all the same thing.

Speaker 1:
[41:01] They were.

Speaker 4:
[41:02] For one day.

Speaker 1:
[41:03] Okay, but he got you. He caught you with your living room, your office and bad Wi-Fi all at the same time.

Speaker 5:
[41:09] When you were moving apartment.

Speaker 1:
[41:10] When you were switching places to live.

Speaker 4:
[41:12] So that's so that I go too far to say you have no friends. At least I have something you don't have friends. And I said.

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Why would you say that?

Speaker 4:
[41:20] And why can't you dress? Why would I do that? I went too far.

Speaker 1:
[41:23] Why did you do that?

Speaker 4:
[41:24] Because I was offended. But really it was just because it was him being too close to academics. So I ended up going extra hard at Drake because the messenger of the thing was academics. I mean, it's not nice though. It's twice now since we quote unquote in his eyes, lost our jobs and are down bad, right? As far as he knows, I'm at the shelter and he was laughing at me to academics. I have the right to get mad about that. I still just think I went further than I needed to go. I don't hate Drake.

Speaker 1:
[41:52] Because he's got you. He's got you go.

Speaker 4:
[41:55] It was a good joke. It was a good joke. Well, listen, it was a good joke too.

Speaker 1:
[41:58] He got you.

Speaker 4:
[41:58] But I got him back.

Speaker 1:
[42:00] I don't know. I don't know. People like how Drake dresses. He's hot out here. You see how people lining up to see the ice melt.

Speaker 4:
[42:07] You know what? I like the transition you just made. Because that is a big story out there yesterday. Is that a flashing story or not? I mean, no.

Speaker 2:
[42:12] But we can talk about it.

Speaker 4:
[42:14] A rundown story, I should say.

Speaker 2:
[42:15] Let's go.

Speaker 1:
[42:15] No, he says Peter lashed out. Yo, Sasha or Shasha. Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[42:21] Yeah, it went hard. It was a lot.

Speaker 1:
[42:22] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[42:22] It's probably harder than I didn't tell any lies, but it's probably harder than I needed to go.

Speaker 1:
[42:26] Hey, yo, anybody watching this Instagram live, hit your YouTube and go check out Ebro Laura Rosenberg. We're live every day.

Speaker 4:
[42:31] How many people left? Like 89?

Speaker 1:
[42:33] No, we're at 113 right now.

Speaker 4:
[42:35] See, I'm telling you, they don't want you to win.

Speaker 1:
[42:38] I mean, I don't really play the game.

Speaker 4:
[42:39] Hit the rundown intro, man. Is it time?

Speaker 1:
[42:41] Yeah. All right, let's do it.

Speaker 2:
[42:56] All right, guys, so we haven't really touched on this story on the show. But singer David, real name David Anthony Burke, he's 21 years old, was arrested and charged with first degree murder in the death of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. Our prosecutors allege that the murder was committed to protect his music career and to silence her for alleged sexual abuse of her.

Speaker 1:
[43:19] And this was the guy, because I had never heard of this guy until the incident. So there's that part. This was the young girl. They found her body in his Tesla, abandoned Tesla car. You may remember this.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] I remember this.

Speaker 1:
[43:31] I've never heard this person's music before. But there you have it.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] Yeah. So, you know, for a minute, at first, they were like, he's not a suspect. Now he's a suspect, but we're here now. And then the family tried to do a press conference, but they just couldn't do it.

Speaker 4:
[43:46] This story is so sick and it's so sickening and upsetting, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:51] I mean, part of the charges are like the continuous sexual abuse of a child, unlawful mutilation of human remains.

Speaker 4:
[43:59] Think about what was going on in this kid's house that you could end up this way. This is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[44:07] And also, like, she's 14, guys.

Speaker 4:
[44:10] That's what I'm saying. The combination of all of it.

Speaker 2:
[44:12] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[44:14] It's awful.

Speaker 2:
[44:14] It's an awful story. So we'll continue to watch this as it plays out.

Speaker 1:
[44:18] And then there's the, you know, the conversation about, you know, our, I'm a girl dad, so your daughters and who you allow your daughters to hang out with and what's going on in your own home that would make your daughter want to be with an individual that is outside her age bracket. It's a tough thing. It's a tough thing to manage.

Speaker 4:
[44:40] Well, in turn, I mean, there's two things. That of which there's, that's, you know, in some ways a tail old as time.

Speaker 1:
[44:47] Yep.

Speaker 4:
[44:47] Then there's the fact that this person, they gave no signs of being a complete sicko and weirdo.

Speaker 1:
[44:56] Well, and then there's the, you know, in what world would someone being abusive to your child and your child process that as normal behavior? Yeah. That's what I mean. Right. Like that's the piece where it's like, you know, I've never given spankings. There's no world where I'm just yelling and seething and cursing in the house at anyone. Right. And most of that is because it's wrong. And you don't want your kids seeing that because they then think that that's a normal household. Of course. And I also grew up in a household like that. So I know what that feels like. But you have to make sure that what your children are watching you work through and manage and articulate and all of that stuff is important because that's how they then process normal stuff later on in their life. So if they see a lot of yelling and screaming in the house or they see people who don't communicate well and that's what love looks like. They're like, yeah, but I love this person or someone's being hit on and then after that, it's like, I love this person. Later on, that individual that absorbed that behavior is going to have to now discern for themselves, was that love? Is that what love is supposed to be?

Speaker 2:
[46:22] Yeah. Yeah. Awful. Tory Lanez is suing the California Department of Corrections for $100 million after being stabbed 16 times in prison. So, I mean, he claims that it was, there was a neglect in supervision, intentional infliction of emotional distress, violation of privacy. So, let's see how this goes. But, you know, I look this up and, cause I was like, am I wrong? I remember when his team and him wanted to move from protected custody to like just gen pop. So I wonder if that's going to work against him. Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[46:59] Yeah. I don't know if, you know, I don't know how this works, but. You know me, you know, getting stabbed in prison. I don't know if something, when you go to prison, I don't know if you're supposed to be able to get stabbed, stabbed up, even though it happens. It's not like, oh yeah, yeah, that's just. So I don't know what, I don't know how this plays out. Where, where's the world at with Tory Lanez? He just put an album out a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2:
[47:18] Still very mixed. I think people have mixed feelings. His hardcore fans are excited and now the people are just.

Speaker 4:
[47:24] Again, back to the picking sides thing. His people became like this hive of it. It's like every, everything is divisive politics, so.

Speaker 1:
[47:37] Well, that's not just a battle, though. That was like.

Speaker 4:
[47:39] No, no, but it's, no, no, totally. Not the same as a battle. But it is still indicative of this obsessive fan culture.

Speaker 1:
[47:45] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[47:45] Like I'm obsessed with him now and I'm with him and he has to be right. Oh, you like Megan, you're wrong. It became that.

Speaker 2:
[47:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:51] Is there a, is there a world of forgiveness for Tory Lanez, Laura Stylez?

Speaker 2:
[47:56] I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[47:57] I don't even understand what the story is still, so. Well, he went to jail for the gun and I won't forgive him for how long I've been talking about this. Well, and I can't forgive you for how many stories Laura's done over the last five years. I can't forgive you.

Speaker 1:
[48:09] Well, and he maintains he didn't do it, but he never took the stand. But he ended up doing the time, I think, for the not being for the endangerment and the pistol and, you know, unlike, you know, whatever that stuff was.

Speaker 2:
[48:22] And I remember California is the one who press charges the state of California or the city of Los Angeles. I don't know which one, but, you know, it wasn't Megan. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 4:
[48:33] Sure. Do I think that there's a chance Tory could be forgiven? Sure. I think it's up to how he manages how he manages it, how much people understand what the truth is, that the truth is corroborated, that there's still a showing account of accountability. Clearly did something. Something not good happened, correct? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:50] Based on what we know. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[48:51] I mean, so but yeah, I think there's a world. Sure.

Speaker 1:
[48:56] I've maintained and I've talked to him on text. I've made before the incident and after. Well, I told him he was mismanaging the situation.

Speaker 4:
[49:04] No, we remembered that. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:05] I was like, I can't support you just acting like this is something to play with and put out an album where you're expressing your love and jumping out on stage and hounding her at festivals and-

Speaker 2:
[49:19] Chopping up horse legs, all of that.

Speaker 1:
[49:21] Yeah, I can't. What is this? What is happening? Somebody was hurt. If you didn't do it, but you were there, you would still be like, yo, that is a terrible incident. I didn't have anything to do with that. That is a terrible incident and I'm in full support of Megan and y'all stop bullies. Say something to your fan base, this rabid fan base that's antagonizing her.

Speaker 2:
[49:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:42] Make it stop.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] So we'll see. But in more positive news, our girl Kaylani just unveiled the features for her new self-titled album Kaylani and listen, Usher's in it, Brandi, Low Wayne, The Clips and Leon Thomas.

Speaker 4:
[50:01] It's a nice whole list of features.

Speaker 6:
[50:02] There's more.

Speaker 2:
[50:04] This is fire. I saw the unveiling of it all on Instagram. It was cute. It was like this boombox theme place. And it's like you would see it in the drinks, you would see the names come up.

Speaker 3:
[50:13] It was cool.

Speaker 4:
[50:15] I'd like to see Kaylani come by on the program.

Speaker 1:
[50:17] All right. You're reaching out?

Speaker 4:
[50:19] I did reach out to her at some point. I got to hit her manager. I reached out to her at some point.

Speaker 1:
[50:22] Hit up David Ali. I'm sure she'll pull up on the program.

Speaker 4:
[50:24] I'll hit up David Ali.

Speaker 1:
[50:26] When she's in NYC?

Speaker 4:
[50:27] Well, she's here. She's doing a listening today.

Speaker 1:
[50:29] She's in town.

Speaker 2:
[50:30] I think it's today. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:33] What?

Speaker 4:
[50:34] And she was in town doing media like literally a week ago.

Speaker 2:
[50:36] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] What? I was just with her last. I was in LA with her last week. She was here last week.

Speaker 4:
[50:41] I think I heard her on the Breakfast Club one morning, like within the last week.

Speaker 1:
[50:46] Wow.

Speaker 4:
[50:46] Something like that. You know, the Breakfast Club, isn't it? Let me tell you what you're going to hear on the Breakfast Club. A goddamn interview. Jeez, Louise.

Speaker 1:
[50:52] People love interviews.

Speaker 4:
[50:53] Bro, do they? Yeah. On the morning show, I want to hear people talk in the morning. Every time I turn on that show, it's like now we're not competition. I want to hear what they do. All I hear is interviews.

Speaker 1:
[51:02] No, that's what they do.

Speaker 4:
[51:04] I guess it's just a pre-taped interview.

Speaker 1:
[51:05] That's why they're popular.

Speaker 4:
[51:06] I just hear bleeps. I'm like, bleep, bleep, bleep. This is a pre-taped interview. I want to hear live talk of what's going on in the world.

Speaker 1:
[51:13] Can't you just enjoy things for what they are? They've been doing interviews for a hundred years. They get a lot of great interviews. People like their interviews. That's what they're known for.

Speaker 4:
[51:22] Yeah, that's just not what I want in the morning show.

Speaker 2:
[51:23] All right, guys, so there was the premiere of Michael in Los Angeles yesterday. I saw it.

Speaker 4:
[51:27] You sent us a lie of a text.

Speaker 5:
[51:30] This is what I... Yes, this was the lie that the guys are talking about. Look at this.

Speaker 2:
[51:36] This is the entire Jackson family at the Michael premiere.

Speaker 5:
[51:40] Except Janet wasn't there.

Speaker 1:
[51:43] Well, then, that's not the entire Jackson family.

Speaker 4:
[51:45] That's exactly my problem. Laura says the entire Jackson family.

Speaker 1:
[51:48] No, I didn't say it.

Speaker 5:
[51:49] That's what it says.

Speaker 4:
[51:49] Oh, oh, oh, oh, and by the way, it's clearly beyond the Jackson 5, because I see white people in it, okay? So you're telling me the entire...

Speaker 1:
[51:57] Well, there's white people in the Jackson family.

Speaker 4:
[51:58] No, no, I understand, but it means it's not the core, like, literally just the brothers and LaToya.

Speaker 1:
[52:02] Well, then you should focus on the fact that it's not the entire Jackson family.

Speaker 4:
[52:05] But hear me out. That's my point. So if you're showing me it's that big a group, and I know for a fact his daughter isn't there, and his most famous sibling isn't there, don't tell me it's the entire family. It can't be the entire family.

Speaker 1:
[52:20] Well, whoever made that.

Speaker 4:
[52:21] By the way, Blanket wasn't there, was he?

Speaker 2:
[52:23] I don't know. I don't know. It was too quick.

Speaker 1:
[52:25] His name is, does he go by Blanket still, or does he go by Prince?

Speaker 4:
[52:29] Blanket was there. Blanket went to one. So Paris didn't go, but Prince went.

Speaker 1:
[52:34] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[52:34] So Blanket is showing up.

Speaker 1:
[52:35] Wait, time out. What's Blanket's? Prince.

Speaker 8:
[52:39] Prince.

Speaker 1:
[52:39] Right.

Speaker 8:
[52:40] But then they called the other one Prince.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] But that's what I thought. The other one was called Prince. But his name was Michael.

Speaker 8:
[52:44] But they call him Prince.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] But they call him Prince.

Speaker 4:
[52:46] Because like the Prince of the King.

Speaker 1:
[52:47] The Prince of the King.

Speaker 2:
[52:49] Ebro's favorite one is Your Majesty.

Speaker 1:
[52:52] Oh, I can't take it.

Speaker 4:
[52:53] Who's Your Majesty?

Speaker 1:
[52:54] That's one of Jermaine's kids. All right, man.

Speaker 4:
[52:57] Listen, no Janet, no entire Jackson family. That's how it works. Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[53:03] But I will tell you guys, I was on thread. Take this for what it is.

Speaker 4:
[53:08] Nothing more reliable.

Speaker 2:
[53:09] People that actually went to the premiere said it was fantastic.

Speaker 4:
[53:13] Oh, I can't wait to see what we're in there.

Speaker 2:
[53:15] We are positive, positive, positive reviews.

Speaker 1:
[53:17] You don't believe there was a world where y'all thought the Michael Jackson movie wasn't going to be good.

Speaker 5:
[53:22] Well, it doesn't ever know.

Speaker 2:
[53:23] You never know.

Speaker 4:
[53:24] I'm with Laura. It doesn't have to be good, but it looks good is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[53:27] It's like every trailer is there was not a piece of me that thought that this wasn't going to be good. I just didn't.

Speaker 4:
[53:34] Well, but why? Movies are bad every day.

Speaker 1:
[53:36] Well, no, because I guess because I saw the play and the play was good. The play was great and the way the story went was great.

Speaker 4:
[53:43] Well, you may happen to be right, but your reasoning is wrong.

Speaker 1:
[53:46] No, okay, that's fine, but that was my reasoning. What do you want from me? And guess what? And it turns out I was right.

Speaker 4:
[53:50] Well, you didn't see it yet. You didn't see it yet.

Speaker 8:
[53:53] You haven't even seen it.

Speaker 4:
[53:55] You're already celebrating a victory. Yes. I hope you see it and hate it. I hope it's the worst.

Speaker 1:
[53:59] I'm not going to tell you guys. Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 4:
[54:02] I was great. He's like, this doesn't look right. No, it does look right. It looks it doesn't look like some serious ass movie about him. It looks like the way the recent biopics have been a big fun.

Speaker 1:
[54:15] It's not a documentary, you mean?

Speaker 4:
[54:16] No, but not even like the Springsteen movie, which I almost watched on the plane yesterday, but did not. The Springsteen movie looks like a more serious, like they took a piece of time. This fits more. It looks like into the Freddie Mercury. Like the big, those big fun biopic vibes.

Speaker 2:
[54:33] All right, guys, that was The Rundown.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 4:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 4:
[56:28] Look what you just did there. You tie that up nice at the end.

Speaker 1:
[56:31] Yo, let's get to the gurus. Guru time. Hey, yo, it's time for the gurus. Rosenberg. Alright, you know you are a beautiful queen. Guru time, Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail or The Original Gurus at Gmail?

Speaker 4:
[56:50] The Original Gurus at Gmail.com, your destination for clarity. Ah, all right, that's the one Laura used on Monday.

Speaker 2:
[57:00] Ah, right.

Speaker 4:
[57:02] Ah, this one's clean.

Speaker 2:
[57:03] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[57:05] Send your e-mails today, kids. Good morning, gurus. First time, long time. I followed y'all from the masses plantation, really. And even though I'm from Detroit, I haven't missed a podcast episode here or there in 10 plus years. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[57:18] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[57:18] I'm 30. I have an older brother that's 37. He essentially raised me and he was who I considered my best friend for most of my life. About four years ago, he picked up a drug habit. I've known he's smoked weed since I was a kid. Not a big deal. I smoked too. But about six years ago, I noticed he would have pills, powder, etc. in his car. I confronted him about it. But you can't make a grown man make decisions. Fast forward a couple years and he's getting worse physically and mentally. I offered to pay for rehab. I paid for some of the bills, covered expenses for my nieces. This all came to a head when he stole several thousand dollars from me and fled the state abandoning his children. What? A couple of weeks ago, I got a call from my dad saying he's in the hospital with fluid filled lungs and multiple heart attacks and it's not looking good. Most of my family had no idea what I was doing for him, and only stepped in after he was fully strung out. My question is, I've had multiple family members and friends reach out and say I should squash the beef even though we haven't spoken in four years. I've thought long and hard about and I honestly don't care. The brother I've had already spent, I spent years mourning. Should I reach out or just keep it moving? Sorry guys, this is a fast one for me. Of course you should reach out. You won't have the option afterwards. If you regret reaching out later, you tried, it didn't work out for you. If you don't do anything and he's gone, all you have is questions for the rest of your life. So is there anything else to say here?

Speaker 2:
[58:50] Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. You should just reach out because it doesn't, if your father's telling you it's not looking good, you do not want to live with that regret later on.

Speaker 1:
[58:58] Well, I think in some regard, you're being selfish because you were harmed by your brother in many ways, both emotionally and financially or whatever. And so you're in pain still from that and you're probably not going to get the apology that you wanted.

Speaker 2:
[59:14] Yeah. I don't expect it either. Just go and just say your piece and whatever. He's probably a shell of himself now.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] But like you said, your brother's addiction and decisions were probably triggered by something that happened to him.

Speaker 2:
[59:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:33] Right. And so he went down, took the wrong decision, wasn't strong enough and went down the wrong path. And so the brother you once loved and celebrated and all of that, like you said, is no longer that person anymore. However, in there somewhere that person exists, even though they're a shell of themselves, and hitting them and just saying, yo, checking on you, I love you, it goes a long way. For them, don't be selfish. This isn't about you.

Speaker 2:
[60:01] Yeah. And to Rosenberg's point, I just feel like you do not want to live with the regret later on being like, I just should have said something, so for yourself also, I think you should do it, but it's all up to you. Good luck, so say the gurus.

Speaker 1:
[60:14] Wow, show outro time, let's get about it.

Speaker 2:
[60:17] Bye guys, see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1:
[60:19] Rosenberg had to bounce to make a major announcement that I'm sure we're gonna hear about tomorrow, or maybe on the Patreon this week. Ooh. We also are expecting a visit from the great Bujuban Tan this week.

Speaker 2:
[60:32] That's right.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 7:
[60:57] Let's go.

Speaker 1:
[60:57] All right. ELR. See you in the morning. Don't fall in the podcast.