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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Dude, I would crush 8 more episodes right now.
Speaker 2:
[00:02] Oh, 100%.
Speaker 1:
[00:03] Like, even the shows, even JJK, I finish an episode, and I'm like, I'm satisfied.
Speaker 2:
[00:08] 100%.
Speaker 1:
[00:08] On to the next bit of work, because these are work.
Speaker 2:
[00:11] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[00:11] Marriage Toxin, I finished episode 2, and I was like, fuck, what do you mean there's no 3?
Speaker 2:
[00:17] I literally was, I watched it today because you were like, I misinterpreted what you told me the other day, where you were like, I've watched 3 animates, Nippon Sengoku, Liar Game, and Marriage Toxin. I thought you said that Liar Game is the best out of the 3, so I should watch that. So I watched that and I was like, this is hot garbage. And so I was like, all right, cool. If Marriage Toxin is worse than this, I'm not gonna watch Marriage Toxin. And then apparently I got that wrong. And I sat down today while I was eating lunch and I was like, I'll just watch Marriage Toxin right now. And I was like, I didn't have time because I needed to get another video done before you got here. I was like, I wanna watch every episode of this that they have available exo pronto. Yeah, it's so much fun. But hi, hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Otakus Anonymous. I know we were talking about anime in the beginning there. That was weird, probably because me and Danny haven't been able to stop talking about Marriage Toxin since he got here.
Speaker 1:
[01:10] Weirdly, a big Marriage Toxin glazer.
Speaker 2:
[01:12] You're 100% right where you're like, oh, it's the buddy daddies of the season. It is 100% that. We'll talk about it in a second. But before we get into talking about like actual anime, there's some things I wanna hear from you from because you had a big weekend this weekend.
Speaker 1:
[01:26] I did.
Speaker 2:
[01:26] You had a big old weekend with Mamamana.
Speaker 1:
[01:28] I was in Vegas.
Speaker 2:
[01:30] Yeah, you are your favorite place.
Speaker 1:
[01:31] My least favorite place on Earth.
Speaker 2:
[01:32] You love Vegas, dude.
Speaker 1:
[01:34] I was in Vegas this weekend. Everyone's been like, are you going to Level Up Expo next weekend?
Speaker 2:
[01:40] I got asked to go to Level Up Expo and I'm like, no.
Speaker 1:
[01:44] No?
Speaker 2:
[01:44] No, well, they're like this talent agency that reps a bunch of voice actors reached out to me and they're like, hey, we should get you to a bunch of cons. You should do X and Y and Z. They want to pay me to do the cons circuit, basically. And I was like, sounds fun. Have you heard of Level Up Con or whatever? And I was like, yeah. And they're like, are you planning on going? I was like, no. And they're like, do you want to? And I was like, if you pay me maybe. But it's like a 10 day notice and Dorothy's not here. And I have to either get somebody to watch the dogs or bring them with me. I'm like, hey, does the Golden Horseshoe or the Golden Nugget allow dogs to stay?
Speaker 1:
[02:19] Yeah, I guess if you really need it, I could swing by and I'll take care of them.
Speaker 2:
[02:23] I don't like. I haven't heard from her in a couple of days.
Speaker 1:
[02:25] Do you remember when we were at Level Up? I knew you forgot.
Speaker 2:
[02:30] What do you mean?
Speaker 1:
[02:31] You don't know what we're why we're tied to Level Up Expo? No, that's where we fucking rassled.
Speaker 2:
[02:39] No, we wrestled the anime Las Vegas. Rats.
Speaker 1:
[02:42] Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I learned about Level Up while at anime Las Vegas because everybody was like, are you coming to the real convention that this state has?
Speaker 2:
[02:50] There's a wait. So Level Up is bigger than anime Las Vegas. Yeah, there's a sizably big con.
Speaker 1:
[02:57] It was cool. But I mean, everyone, I mean, Hannah, our friend who lived in Vegas, who now lives in the Ivory Coast. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:03] And is it is it in the Cote d'Ivoire?
Speaker 1:
[03:06] He's in the Ivory Coast. That's why it owns a lot of land.
Speaker 2:
[03:09] I imagine that land in the Cote d'Ivoire is cheaper than it is here.
Speaker 1:
[03:13] She like inherited it. I got to run. I got to bring you up to speed. It's like actually crazy.
Speaker 2:
[03:17] Holy shit. I'd leave Vegas for Cote d'Ivoire easily.
Speaker 1:
[03:20] But she lived in Vegas like her whole life and was like level up. Expo is like the big one. And now all of these content creators are like DMing me and being like, are you going to be in level up? And I'm like, no, because I was just in Vegas.
Speaker 2:
[03:32] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[03:33] And I'm going back for Magic Con the weekend after this weekend.
Speaker 2:
[03:37] Yes. In two weekends is Magic Con.
Speaker 1:
[03:39] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:39] Which, by the way, I'm not doing the live show with them. Yeah. I know you love Vegas. I love it. I know I'm going to be in New York next weekend.
Speaker 1:
[03:47] Oh, at least you're well, next next weekend, right?
Speaker 2:
[03:49] Next next week.
Speaker 1:
[03:50] Yes. At least it's not because you didn't want to know anyway.
Speaker 2:
[03:54] I go play magic fucking in Las Vegas every day of the week, baby. Now it's the only card game you can play at Vegas where you don't lose money.
Speaker 1:
[04:01] Well, not the way we'll be playing.
Speaker 2:
[04:03] I got fair.
Speaker 1:
[04:05] Yeah, I was at WrestleMania last year. I told you that we liked it enough. We had a good time, but on the drive back, I was like, hey, let's hear what the masses think. Let's put on a podcast. We found WrestleTalk, run by a couple of Brits who I love now.
Speaker 2:
[04:22] You didn't master class in, hey, mom, I'm going to listen to this for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1:
[04:26] Yeah, she liked it. She's now a big WrestleTalk fan.
Speaker 2:
[04:30] She should be the biggest wrestling podcast in the world, apparently.
Speaker 1:
[04:33] Biggest to have like a million subscribers.
Speaker 2:
[04:35] Good, not jealous at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[04:38] But and on our drive back from this Wrestlemania experience that cost me like six grand and everyone, we both enjoyed. They're like, so, Oli, was this the single worst Wrestlemania in history? That was last year. That's all the whole discussion.
Speaker 2:
[04:55] This was last year.
Speaker 1:
[04:56] Yeah, last year.
Speaker 2:
[04:57] Last year was bad.
Speaker 1:
[05:00] Saturday, because Wrestlemania is Saturday and Sunday. Saturday this year, way worse than last year. Just like the worst wrestling I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2:
[05:09] Like compare it to Revolution, which we went to together.
Speaker 1:
[05:12] Like not even close to, it was like as good as when we wrestled. You know, like there was nothing memorable about it. Nothing felt dangerous. Revolution like reignited my love for wrestling.
Speaker 2:
[05:29] It made me a wrestling fan. Half of the like the Instagram reels I get nowadays are professional wrestlers. Like it is, I'm having, I am so bought into wrestling right now. I'm like on Kenny Omega's timeline. I'm on obviously like Ricochet's timeline. I'm fucking keeping up with everybody.
Speaker 1:
[05:43] Yeah, I know you texted me and you were like, I might be into wrestling now.
Speaker 2:
[05:47] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[05:48] Saturday was like abysmal.
Speaker 2:
[05:50] I couldn't believe like big old slap matches and like a bunch of like mat plays kind of thing.
Speaker 1:
[05:54] Like just yeah, just like boring. It's a bunch of like they'll do one medium thing where it's like, yeah, big slap and I'll be like, oh, oh. And then they'll like circle for a bit. There is no big like crazy stunt like when we saw AEW. Yeah, they were doing shit that like we've never seen before. And we don't know how it didn't kill a guy. Like they would like flip a guy around like he's a pizza and then he'd land on his neck on someone's knee.
Speaker 2:
[06:24] Yeah, they were doing like backbreakers from the top rope, good crazy shit.
Speaker 1:
[06:28] So that was a bummer. And then Sunday was way better. Sunday was like actually really exciting, not as good as AEW. And I don't know if anything ever will be. I think I'm just like an AEW purist.
Speaker 2:
[06:42] That's very fair that I feel like that's a sentiment a lot of people are leaning towards nowadays.
Speaker 1:
[06:47] I don't know how AEW's stories are. Like a lot of people are into WWE's characters. I just know that AEW's wrestling itself is more extreme and more fun.
Speaker 2:
[06:58] Yeah, Ricochet told us that the AEW has two writers, as opposed to the WWE has like eight or something like that. So I'm imagining that they write a lot of their own shit. And then it's like, oh, they are this persona that fits in here, X, Y, and Z. They bounce off the writers, that kind of thing. But it's much more free form. And so I think they're just outperforming from like an, oh, actual wrestling products kind of thing. Because I wonder, because I genuinely like, I could see myself being bought into wrestling. I do not know if I would keep up with any timelines or like any storylines. What? Oh, no, there are Xs. Oh, they just got a divorce. It's only like something like that, right?
Speaker 1:
[07:35] I don't know. That's so interesting. Because a lot of people, I wonder if like wrestling fans hate that take in the way that anime fans hate, like people who just watch for the fights.
Speaker 2:
[07:45] Gotcha.
Speaker 1:
[07:46] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[07:46] I only watch JJK for the fights kind of thing. Yeah. They're like, oh, what? You don't care that Rey Mysterio's son ended up betraying Rey Mysterio and is now with.
Speaker 1:
[07:56] You shockingly know a lot of wrestling.
Speaker 2:
[07:59] Rey Mysterio's son is fake married to.
Speaker 1:
[08:05] He used to be Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 2:
[08:06] Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 1:
[08:07] He used to be. Now he's with Liv Morgan, who is literally just Margot Robbie. Oh, Robbie.
Speaker 2:
[08:12] Good for this very average looking guy. Rey Mysterio's son is like the most 4 out of 10 in the history of 4 out of 10.
Speaker 1:
[08:21] He looks like a Ford F-150.
Speaker 2:
[08:23] Yeah. Morgan. Morgan Ripley.
Speaker 1:
[08:25] Liv Morgan.
Speaker 2:
[08:26] Liv Morgan, who looks like Margot Robbie.
Speaker 1:
[08:29] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[08:30] That's, I mean, good for him.
Speaker 1:
[08:32] She's like the Bratz doll version of Margot Robbie.
Speaker 2:
[08:34] Oh, my God. Oh, she's tiny.
Speaker 1:
[08:36] Yeah, she is whittle.
Speaker 2:
[08:37] Oh, my God. Oh, she is sick. I get it. I hate this. Oh, well, you know, now that I'm seeing Ray Mysterio's son with long hair and a mustache, that's a little better.
Speaker 1:
[08:52] He looks like a nutcracker.
Speaker 2:
[08:53] That's a little bit. He looks like a Viltramite is what he looks like. A background Viltramite is what he looks like.
Speaker 1:
[08:57] Looks like a race, a more racist Viltramite.
Speaker 2:
[09:00] 100 percent, dude. Oh, yeah. No, this is my new hyper fixation. All right. Cool.
Speaker 1:
[09:05] I thought it might be.
Speaker 2:
[09:06] Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1:
[09:07] He's cool. I agree in all the ways you agree.
Speaker 2:
[09:10] Oh, wow. Wow. OK, cool. Not going to be weird about that at all. Dorothy has been gone for 11 days, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1:
[09:15] Yeah. Ray Mysterio. Dominic Mysterio does have a weird track record for a man with that hair style.
Speaker 2:
[09:21] Now Ray Mysterio is in the AEW.
Speaker 1:
[09:23] No, he's not. He wrestled at WrestleMania.
Speaker 2:
[09:26] Who am I thinking?
Speaker 1:
[09:27] Sin Cara.
Speaker 2:
[09:28] Sin Cara is in the AEW.
Speaker 1:
[09:29] You ever seen montages of Sin Cara being really bad at wrestling? No, he is not good.
Speaker 2:
[09:37] He's not great. He's even at AEW. He was not great. He's not the best like Luchador I've ever seen by far.
Speaker 1:
[09:43] There's just a lot of montages of him like botching shit where he's like his gimmick was he'd jump on a trampoline and like clear over the top rope to get into the ring. And so many times he just like clip his thighs and like barrel into the ring.
Speaker 2:
[10:00] No, he's got to play it off here. I mean, I watched the like there were so many influencers at WrestleMania. It was like everybody under the sun got invited, which makes me think you very easily could have just gone for free probably.
Speaker 1:
[10:12] Not the way we talk about WrestleMania.
Speaker 2:
[10:14] We will fair. That's actually very fair.
Speaker 1:
[10:16] We could go to more AEW probably.
Speaker 2:
[10:18] We could go to all the eight. We have a literal AEW plug. I want AEW to like fly us out to Australia to go see whatever they're doing over there.
Speaker 1:
[10:25] I'd love to go to their WrestleMania. Oh, whatever that is.
Speaker 2:
[10:28] It was probably Revolution.
Speaker 1:
[10:29] Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[10:30] I think that was their biggest thing.
Speaker 1:
[10:31] I have no idea.
Speaker 2:
[10:32] It was definitely a big thing. What is AEW's? Let's see if the internet gets this question.
Speaker 1:
[10:40] People told me that the free show after Revolution, the equivalent to Monday Night Raw or whatever, was even sicker than Revolution. Their regular free programming is as good, if not better, than a pay-per-view from WWE.
Speaker 2:
[10:58] That's crazy. AEW All-In is widely considered the AEW's equivalent to the WWE WrestleMania, held annually in the late summer, most notably at Wembley Stadium. Dog, we should go to the fucking UK.
Speaker 1:
[11:10] Brother, get us out there. Start hitting up Ricochet.
Speaker 2:
[11:14] Oh my God. I'll text him immediately. Are you kidding me? I would be like, yeah, dude, give me tickets to All-In.
Speaker 1:
[11:18] But yeah, Sunday was a lot better. It was like CM Punk versus Roman Reigns, which I know doesn't mean anything to you, but-
Speaker 2:
[11:23] It does. I love CM Punk. I'm lukewarm on Roman Reigns. I feel like everyone else is.
Speaker 1:
[11:28] It was pretty cool. CM Punk bled. There were some cool bits where they were getting- He's really good at selling tired. But in a way, that wasn't boring. It was like watching Daredevil get tired in a hallway fight where he scrambles to his feet, gets Roman Reigns on his shoulders and collapses in exhaustion. And everyone's freaking out.
Speaker 2:
[11:51] Because all things like OC and Punk is old, you know?
Speaker 1:
[11:53] Yeah, exactly. That was like the whole bit. But it was cool. I mean, again, in the best WWE match, someone will get hit with a chair in an unexpected way. In AEW, they'll hit you with a chair and then fuck you with it.
Speaker 2:
[12:10] Yeah, literally. Literally, from the top rope, like a fucking orbital chair strike. The last match, which we both missed, I believe, like they chained two guys together with barbed wire.
Speaker 1:
[12:21] Yeah, they stapled to do.
Speaker 2:
[12:22] They stapled to do. Like everyone was like fucking actually bleeding in the last two matches. And like our number one complaint was it was too much wrestling.
Speaker 1:
[12:30] Yeah, apparently that's like a wide complaint in the AEW sphere, which was good to hear. People were like, six hours is too much wrestling.
Speaker 2:
[12:38] I want to see it all, but like, fuck, is it hard to hold my attention that long?
Speaker 1:
[12:42] But anyway, better than last year as a whole.
Speaker 2:
[12:45] And you flew this time, so that's...
Speaker 1:
[12:47] No, I didn't. I drove.
Speaker 2:
[12:48] Oh, you didn't?
Speaker 1:
[12:48] Yeah, but it was just me.
Speaker 2:
[12:49] Oh, so you just solo drove through the worst part of America here? The drive from LA to Vegas, for those of you who have never done it, you drive past a town literally called hell.
Speaker 1:
[12:59] Yeah, and then after that, you drive past nothing at all for 100 miles.
Speaker 2:
[13:03] And then there's X or then there's ZZYYXX Road.
Speaker 1:
[13:08] So there is Zizek's Road.
Speaker 2:
[13:09] Zizek's Road because they wanted to be the alphabetically last road in the country. And then you drive past the biggest gas station in California, which is like 6000 square feet mass, like maximum.
Speaker 1:
[13:20] Yeah, there's like an 80 mile stretch where they go next gas station in 80 miles. And you are white knuckling if you're not above half a tank of gas.
Speaker 2:
[13:30] Yeah, it's a fucking awful, awful, awful, awful drive. But yes, well, that's fun. I'm happy you enjoyed yourself. I wish I was out there with you.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[16:31] All I did this weekend was golf, and that's my cold open. I'm incredibly addicted to golf. It's so bad.
Speaker 1:
[16:38] God, 30 is barreling towards you, huh?
Speaker 2:
[16:41] Danny, it's all I can think about. Danny, I've never had... I play pickleball, and I'm like, I don't want to get better at pickleball. I don't want to compete in pickleball. It's a joke. It's a hobby sport. Christ. I'm paying for lessons this weekend in golf. I'm taking it so goddamn seriously.
Speaker 1:
[17:00] Regular golf, right? Not top golf?
Speaker 2:
[17:02] No, like regular. I've golfed 72 holes in the last week.
Speaker 1:
[17:06] You got gloves?
Speaker 2:
[17:07] Oh, yeah, one. Right. One. But my hands are getting tore up.
Speaker 1:
[17:10] Really?
Speaker 2:
[17:11] Look at it.
Speaker 1:
[17:12] Look at it.
Speaker 2:
[17:12] I got I got two. I got two. Wow. I got two of the fucking like bubbles.
Speaker 1:
[17:16] Whoa.
Speaker 2:
[17:17] Yeah, I did too. I went to the driving range at 7 o'clock in the morning this morning.
Speaker 1:
[17:20] This is not intended to be rude. Like I'm looking for actual information.
Speaker 2:
[17:25] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[17:26] In terms of like becoming competitive at golf.
Speaker 2:
[17:29] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[17:29] Do you need to have started younger or are you at like prime competitive golfing age?
Speaker 2:
[17:34] I am not at well, kind of like most pros. Most of the best pros are around my age for sure. Like some of the best pros are like people golf into their 50s at like a high competitive level.
Speaker 1:
[17:44] Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:
[17:45] But I golfed a lot as a kid and then I didn't golf between the ages of like 14, maybe like 13 to like now. So I've been golfed in like 16 years and I'm like just like and I was fucking good when I was young. So I'm getting back into it. But yeah, I want to I want to I want to golf too much. So that's I need my car back. That's that's the fucking thing. I need like I'm doing one 30 year old hyperfixation at a time. And now that my fucking RX-7 is sitting in a shop for a month, I'm just like going to be ravenous about golf.
Speaker 1:
[18:15] We're such weird polar opposites. We're like I just bought a like wallet chain. That's all Beyblades.
Speaker 2:
[18:26] You got this. I immediately have to see this. That sounds like well, that's the beauty of a wallet chain. That's also a weapon is that if anybody reaches for your wallet, they get sliced up on your base.
Speaker 1:
[18:36] Boy, is this a weapon? Let me I can't enlarge it, but it just delivered apparently.
Speaker 2:
[18:41] Huge huge for the gang.
Speaker 1:
[18:42] But like I'm hyperfixating on shit for children and you're hyperfixating on shit for people 10 years old.
Speaker 2:
[18:50] There's a big two years between us. This was 80 unironic dollars.
Speaker 1:
[18:56] It's like 10 Beyblades.
Speaker 2:
[18:58] It is literally 11 Beyblades.
Speaker 1:
[19:01] If you account for each one being around $10. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[19:05] Wow. That is incredible. That is the most obtrusive thing you could staple to your pants I could imagine. Oh, this my 11. Let me. Oh, wait, hold up. It's hooked on my loop. It's hooked on my other loops. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:
[19:19] I'm.
Speaker 2:
[19:20] Hold up. Don't battle me. I have to unhook one of my 11 Beyblades.
Speaker 3:
[19:24] Don't rip.
Speaker 1:
[19:26] Dude, every conversation.
Speaker 2:
[19:27] Asking a Beyblade not to rip is fucking intrinsically against its nature, Danny.
Speaker 1:
[19:32] Every conversation I start for the rest of my life is going to start with, oh, this.
Speaker 2:
[19:37] Oh, these. Oh, let me tell you, this is just the best $80 I ever spent.
Speaker 1:
[19:41] I was hanging out with fucking Ryan, the potter, potter. Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 2:
[19:48] One of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[19:49] The lead in Big Hero 6.
Speaker 2:
[19:50] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[19:51] All those years.
Speaker 2:
[19:51] Hero and Big Hero 6. Not the lead. The older brother.
Speaker 1:
[19:55] No, hero is the lead. He was. If he was hero, he's the lead. The hero.
Speaker 2:
[20:01] Oh, maybe he was. Anyways, he's also Beast Boy.
Speaker 1:
[20:04] Anyway, he was Beast Boy in Titans. Yes. Regardless, I was hanging out with him at a shoot that I don't think I can say what it was still. Oh, but, you know, I know. But I was telling him because sometimes I'll take the outer ring of a Beyblade and weave a chain through it and make that a necklace.
Speaker 2:
[20:21] I've seen it.
Speaker 1:
[20:22] And it's sick. I love it. And I was like, dude, I got to get some engineer to figure out a way to let me put the whole Beyblade through that chain, but also make the chain rippable, where all I need is the little handle thing. I rip the Beyblade, weave the necklace part through it and then rip it with that.
Speaker 2:
[20:43] Yeah, that's very easy.
Speaker 1:
[20:45] I don't know if that is.
Speaker 2:
[20:46] I feel like I could almost make that for you. All you would need, you need a chain that has like some like light teeth on it, right? Like you would have to have some kind of light teeth. It would be stuck through it. And then it would have to be able to, it would be like on the ripper, you have to make a miniaturized version of the ripper. And then once you ripped it, the problem is then the Beyblade would be like, you know how when you put the Beyblade in the ripper, it like sometimes falls out? Yeah, that would be the only issue you'd have to get over logistically.
Speaker 1:
[21:11] I just want to be able, I want to find out the fastest I can rip a Beyblade from like challenge to battle. You know?
Speaker 2:
[21:18] Danny, that's a great idea. That's a great idea. Oh, no, they're going to steal it. Danny, they're going to steal this from us. Who? Oh, the millions of engineers who listen to us. We're the highest IQ podcast listening group that's ever been fucking brought together.
Speaker 1:
[21:33] This has been the most skipped intro we've ever done.
Speaker 2:
[21:36] Are you kidding me? This is the best work we've ever, outside of in our first episode when we ranked cereal and fast food, this is the best intro we've ever done.
Speaker 1:
[21:43] Ranked cereal and like debated the ethics of pooping in your pants.
Speaker 2:
[21:48] A hundred percent. And then also, I believe in the second episode, we said what countries would have what mechs.
Speaker 1:
[21:53] That was good, though.
Speaker 2:
[21:54] Still a great argument. Still a fantastic argument.
Speaker 1:
[21:56] I agree.
Speaker 2:
[21:57] Well, then fine, Danny, we'll give them what we want. We'll give them what they want. You want to talk about fucking liar game or is that the worst one of the week? Oh, my God. I didn't watch everything under the goddamn sun today because his number one hater DMed him three shows he was watching, one of which was good.
Speaker 1:
[22:14] To be fair, that's not entirely why it on like anime TikTok. I've been seeing like these three shows get talked about. And then someone DMed me and was like, hey, here's a concise list of these three shows you should watch. I screenshotted that, sent it to Nick.
Speaker 2:
[22:32] And those three shows are?
Speaker 1:
[22:34] Liar's Game, Nippon Sengoku and Marriage Toxin.
Speaker 2:
[22:40] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[22:41] So we've added those to the roster. Who knows for how long?
Speaker 2:
[22:44] I'm telling you right now, at least one of them is being cut.
Speaker 1:
[22:47] I'll give Liar's Game one more.
Speaker 2:
[22:49] I fell asleep three minutes into episode two of Liar's Game last night and slept on the couch.
Speaker 1:
[22:55] It's not. I don't know. This is no like Suicide Squad. It's not.
Speaker 2:
[23:00] But like it's just the worst version of Tomodachi Game. It's just like it's a show. It's like, what is that Tomodachi Game? Oh, it's Tomodachi Game is a worst version of Squid Games. But like it's like a bunch of friends get brought into like a debt collector game kind of thing, and they're all trying to get out of debt. And it's a big old liar game thing. It should have got a second season. It didn't. And that's kind of like my first thing. I was like, oh, this is just Tomodachi Game Season 2. The main characters of Liar's Game are so deeply unlikable. Just so generically awful. The main character is a girl by the name of Nao. And she's like named like Truth or something in Japanese. And her whole gambit is, wow, wouldn't it be nice if the whole world was kind and unapologetically honest and all that. And the first three seconds, there's no intro to the first episode. The first three seconds is just her at a police station, be like, I found this coin. And you're like, did I accidentally skip forward here?
Speaker 1:
[23:56] Well, and they're like, the cops are like, huh, what an idiot. Yeah. But she hands them like, how much money is that?
Speaker 2:
[24:02] It's like three yen. Like, it's like it's the smallest denomination of yen coin. It might be one yen.
Speaker 1:
[24:08] It was like one thousand yen, I thought. Right.
Speaker 2:
[24:10] I mean, maybe.
Speaker 1:
[24:11] Yeah. Well, how much is that?
Speaker 2:
[24:13] Well, they don't make a one thousand yen coin. They make a one yen coin, a five yen coin, a ten yen coin and maybe a five hundred yen coin.
Speaker 1:
[24:21] How much would the highest coin be in US dollars?
Speaker 2:
[24:25] Thirty three. No, five hundred yen coin would be three ish dollars.
Speaker 1:
[24:30] So even at the highest denomination, she brings a three dollar coin to a police station.
Speaker 2:
[24:37] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[24:37] And she's like, hey, I think somebody dropped this and then leaves. And the cops are like, what a dumbass. Any other self-respecting person would have kept to this.
Speaker 2:
[24:47] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[24:47] It's like Christ times is tough, huh?
Speaker 2:
[24:49] Yeah. So I can get like one konbini sandwich. Yeah. No, whoever's looking for their five. This five hundred yen can mean a lot more to somebody else, such somebody who's not about to be drawn into the one hundred million yen game.
Speaker 1:
[25:01] So what is the show about?
Speaker 2:
[25:03] I fucking one in a hundred million people.
Speaker 1:
[25:06] A hundred thousand. It's really not that many people.
Speaker 2:
[25:08] That was a hundred thousand.
Speaker 1:
[25:10] One in one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2:
[25:11] There's a hundred fifty million people in Japan. That's a hundred. That's fifteen hundred people.
Speaker 1:
[25:15] Yeah, it's not really that rare.
Speaker 2:
[25:17] That's really not that rare. That's also a million people. That's a fifteen hundred people get a million dollars. That's one point five billion dollars.
Speaker 3:
[25:26] That's what?
Speaker 2:
[25:28] That's racketeering. Fucking, oh, we need to make these people be in our debt. You have one point five billion dollars to hand out.
Speaker 3:
[25:35] Let me just see.
Speaker 2:
[25:36] That's asinine. That's absolutely asinine. So anyways, one in a hundred thousand people get drawn into something known as the liars game, where they are matched, at least in the first round, they're matched with somebody and they have to, they get a hundred million yen, which is somewhere in the region of like eighty, eight hundred and twenty thousand dollars. So it's somewhere in that region, depending on conversion rates. It's probably closer to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But in the first round, they have to take the seven hundred fifty thousand dollars of somebody else. Yes. And whatever they steal from somebody else, also retaining their hundred million yen, they will keep. But the other person will go into debt. And the first episode is basically just around this girl who's too like literally honest to a fault, getting her money stolen because the person that she's paired with is an old middle school teacher of hers. And then she recruits some con man with a golden heart who just gets out of prison. And for some reason, the prison guard, the prison guards give him a give him a guard outfit so he can slip away from the fucking media.
Speaker 1:
[26:33] Yeah, the prison guards like let him do a bit like he gets out in the media, like really wants to take his photo. And some random nobody like slips out of the prison. And they're all like, that's not the guy. Where's the guy? And one of the guards is like, you know, the guy's really good at disguises. So they go and chase the other dude who got out. And it turns out the guard that told them that is actually him.
Speaker 2:
[26:58] And then the actual real guard's like, you go to their ass. Let's get you out of that uniform. For some reason, we gave you Mr. Criminal.
Speaker 1:
[27:07] Yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 2:
[27:08] Insane. It's ugly. It looks like platinum. It looks like platinum and kind of specific.
Speaker 1:
[27:14] Yeah, I think it looks just like an older anime. Like it looks like a death note without all of the bells and whistles.
Speaker 2:
[27:22] It's 2013, 2014. Real like everyone's long. There's not that much detail in their faces.
Speaker 1:
[27:28] Yeah, it, you know, it's interesting about this anime, though. I didn't realize this until she got invited to Liar Game. I got invited to Liar Game last year.
Speaker 2:
[27:40] What do you mean?
Speaker 1:
[27:41] I don't think I told you about this, which sucks. I got a letter from like Japan. Oh, the from was like an address I'd never seen and all in Japanese. It was addressed to me to my home and I asked Crunchyroll. I was like, what is it? Like, did you send this? And they're like, no, I don't know what this is. And I open it up and it's a letter all in Japanese and it's black. And it's like just like the one she got. There's a QR code. And I'm like, I don't know if I should scan this. Like this seems scammy or whatever. It's going to give me a virus. And I scan it anyway, because I'm done.
Speaker 2:
[28:15] Of course. Yeah, naturally. So if ever you want Danny Motta's bank account, all you need to do is prompt him with a QR code.
Speaker 1:
[28:21] Remember when we were at Comic Palooza and we found a flash drive at our table? And I was like, I'll put this in my laptop.
Speaker 2:
[28:27] And then it was just absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1:
[28:29] Yeah. It was like just me naked through bushes.
Speaker 2:
[28:32] Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1:
[28:35] And so I scanned the QR code and it's a website. That's all in Japanese with no like English version. OK, I like Google auto translate it. And it's about Liar's Game. And it's like the plot of it. And it's like you've been selected and this and that. I'm like, what is this? But it was so poorly Google translated that I was like, I don't know, do they want me to post about it? Yeah, this is like a premiere coming up. And then I just ignored it and it never came back up until right now.
Speaker 2:
[29:05] That's how did they get your address?
Speaker 1:
[29:06] I don't know. When I saw her open that, I was like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2:
[29:11] So you got you could have gone and just like police some like single mother out of almost a million dollars in Japan.
Speaker 1:
[29:18] I don't know. They didn't send money with it. That would have been rad.
Speaker 2:
[29:22] That would have been rad as hell. That would have been sick. And you'd be like, and then also who's flying from Japan over to America to find your hundred thousand dollars or your million dollars?
Speaker 1:
[29:30] It was so weird. And I never like made a big, I was like, oh, I should do a video about this. And then I just didn't because I didn't have enough info on it.
Speaker 2:
[29:39] I got sent recently, this company just released like gaming hard, like it's like hard wire or something. They released like corded gaming, like in your headphones. And they're like, hey, do you want a pair? And I was like, sure. I looked them up for like 150 bucks. I was like, sure, I'll take one. And they've been emailing me every day being like, what are you going to post about it? And I was like, you asked if I wanted a pair. You didn't ask if I was going to post about it for you sending me one.
Speaker 1:
[30:05] I know I love when sometimes like people are like, we'd love to send you this thing. You don't have to post it. Just see if you like it. Yeah, I take it. And I'm like, I medium liked it. And they're like, when's the video coming out? And I'm like, hey, don't send people nine volumes of Togan Anki and tell them there's no obligation.
Speaker 2:
[30:23] Dude, I got somebody reached out to me and they were selling like solid gold Pokemon statues, like 24 karat Pokemon statues. And they're like, we'll send you like a bunch of these if you post about it kind of thing. And I was like real close to say yes. And I checked their website. It was actually all they had was silver. Oh, yeah, I was like, it was like the sketchiest website of all time. It was objectively very silly. But yeah, Liar's Game is fine. I don't know. Watch Tomodachi Game or Batum or anything else. That's like a future diary. Watch any other other like Battle Royale anime over this.
Speaker 1:
[30:55] I'll give this another episode. I like like if it gets clever, I'll be into it. Like there's the promise of, oh, they're going to do some like tricky scheming. But yeah, this episode doesn't have that like inherent. Oh, this is really smart kind of factor. Like I'm interested solely under the guise that this will be like a Steins Gate or a Death Note where I'm like, oh, this is smarter because it looks that way. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[31:22] I because it's like a game anime, you know, was that one with the fucking liar one? The other one.
Speaker 1:
[31:28] Liar game?
Speaker 2:
[31:29] Not not. Yes, of course, liar game. The one with all the con men. No, not Kaka-Guri. That's the gambling one. It got like three seasons. It was on Netflix.
Speaker 1:
[31:39] Super Crux.
Speaker 2:
[31:40] Super Crux is like in that same vein, but it's it's like.
Speaker 1:
[31:44] No, I know.
Speaker 2:
[31:45] Right. I feel like liars in the title.
Speaker 1:
[31:48] What is it? You guys know.
Speaker 2:
[31:50] Tell me now.
Speaker 1:
[31:53] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[31:53] Yeah. So watch that one. Whichever one that is. The Great Pretender. Watch The Great Pretender if you want a con man anime over this. All right. Outside of the Liar Game, we also watched this week Marriage Talks in Wistoria, which had Atelier, Daimons of the Shadow Realm, Nippon Sen Goku and Invincible. So after Liar Game, man.
Speaker 1:
[32:16] What's the next best? It is kind of a gap, I feel.
Speaker 2:
[32:19] Wistoria? Do you like this episode of Wistoria?
Speaker 1:
[32:24] Dude, I was going to I have been debating all week doing a bit where I was going to be like, yeah, Wistoria is probably the worst of the week. Nothing happens, right?
Speaker 2:
[32:33] Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:
[32:34] To rage bait you. What happens this episode in Wistoria?
Speaker 2:
[32:39] I mean, like, it's like it's they're fighting a bunch of demons of the week. You know, I listen to finish the episode. Yes. OK, I did.
Speaker 1:
[32:48] OK.
Speaker 2:
[32:49] I mean, like, so, yes, I think we're saving budget. Listen, I'm not saying that Wistoria is bad. This felt like a budget saver episode.
Speaker 1:
[32:55] Wow.
Speaker 2:
[32:56] Yeah, I like like there's some there's like a slightly fun fight between Will and the the fucking whatever they call it. Dame David Devinis or whatever the, which is just it looks like cooler. It looks like Cooler had a baby with like hollow Ichigo.
Speaker 1:
[33:09] Oh, I see the man cooler.
Speaker 2:
[33:11] Yes, the man, the man cooler, not the actual cooler.
Speaker 1:
[33:14] I thought you meant like, it looks cool.
Speaker 2:
[33:16] No, no, no, no, he looks like cooler, the strongest in the universe. But like this episode is, I don't know, like it's just them fighting a bunch of the same demons. For some reason, the dwarves who are able to battle against these things that can kill mages are never once called into combat because of generational racism. Also, I love them being like, hey, hey, dwarves, sorry about the years and years of mistreatment. Can you come die on the front lines for us? And you know what? They're down.
Speaker 1:
[33:41] I can't believe they were down.
Speaker 2:
[33:42] And there's like, yeah, sure, we'll grab our wooden mallets. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[33:46] Oh, look, I didn't love the episode.
Speaker 2:
[33:49] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[33:50] I thought this would be higher because of how it ends.
Speaker 2:
[33:53] I mean, the episode, look, it ends with, I mean, oh, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:
[33:57] I think you forgot.
Speaker 2:
[33:58] I it's not that I forgot. I did forget. I did forget. Rosti dies.
Speaker 1:
[34:02] Rosti dies.
Speaker 2:
[34:02] Rosti fucking dies. I forgot Rosti die. That is that is because I was just thinking I was like, oh, a bunch of demons. There's the dwarves. We will get kicked into a wall. None of it's particularly pretty. The guy in the beginning gets cut in half. Rosti. I literally wrote, I said, damn, that was Rosti's Will washing arm. I said, oh, damn, that was Rosti's Will fucking body.
Speaker 1:
[34:21] I know. I wrote Rosti losing an arm is wild. Rosti dying is wild.
Speaker 2:
[34:26] Yeah. Like that was absolutely because literally last episode we were talking about, like, oh, it's so cool that Will can be like shipped with either Colette or Rosti. And then immediately just karma came for Rosti, apparently.
Speaker 1:
[34:37] Yeah. Shipped on the fucking river sticks.
Speaker 2:
[34:39] Yeah, my God. Like I was like, OK, cool. It's like one arm down. It's gonna be harder to make crafts straight to the chest. I don't know how you jumping in front of the sword of a demon that's able to kill all grand machinists or whatever the fuck is going to is going to slow it down enough to save Will's life.
Speaker 1:
[34:53] I don't know, Rosti, after the arm was gone, Rosti was like, whatever, take the rest.
Speaker 2:
[34:57] And then just and then just like turned into dust.
Speaker 1:
[35:00] Yeah. Turned to dust.
Speaker 2:
[35:01] So I I couldn't tell that Cules something like that.
Speaker 1:
[35:06] Um, that's so interesting, because, yeah, I was also like, this is a little mundane.
Speaker 2:
[35:11] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[35:11] I mean, not mundane, but I was like, this is made in terms of. Yeah, it's monster, like random faceless hollows, which I never love. I'd rather they're fighting like other wizards or something.
Speaker 2:
[35:21] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[35:21] And the second they're like, their swords absorb magic. I was waiting for like silent or a scion to be like, how are we going to be? Oh, fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[35:31] I said, I said, Oh, no. Classic. Our magic doesn't work. Good thing there's a kid with a sword. I know. I know it is. That's so funny. It's like, Oh, fuck, it's got to be well. It's like Roger and family are an American dad. Like, Oh, God, how does this keep happening? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[35:47] I love that clip where he's like, I hear this teacher is the best in the bids, Roger. It's going to be Roger. Yeah, it was fine. But yeah, then Rosti died and I was like, Oh, I guess I do have something to talk about.
Speaker 2:
[36:00] Oh, it's absolutely that's absolutely the biggest and most important takeaway from this episode, because like outside of that, it's just like, Oh, no, they can absorb our magic. Good thing we have the laggard.
Speaker 1:
[36:10] It's not as big of an animation drop as like season two of Black Clover. Yes, but it is.
Speaker 2:
[36:18] Oh, it's noticeable.
Speaker 1:
[36:19] It's a little noticeable. But then when Rosti dies, the butt like it's like he was sucking up the budget because then they animate it pretty cool.
Speaker 2:
[36:26] That's why I think that this was an animation. That's what I was like. Oh, this is very clear, like a budget saver episode. We didn't have budget saver episodes in season one. So it makes me think I was like, Oh, do they spend too much money on season one? They're like, we can't be blowing JJK money on Wistoria, Sword and Wand season one here.
Speaker 1:
[36:43] Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to wait and see because I can't tell. Even if this is like the budget of it, this is still like, it looks good. It's not that it looks bad. It just doesn't look as crazy as season one.
Speaker 2:
[36:57] Yeah, it's hard to not see that. It's harder because like also a big reason to watch Wistoria is unfortunately how beautiful the animation was.
Speaker 1:
[37:04] I feel about Wistoria the way you felt about Sentence to be a hero where I'm like, this is fantasy.
Speaker 2:
[37:09] Oh, it's magic. It's magic. And it's like, if the magic slops not going to look good, I'm like, I can get this from any middle of the road isekai. You know, I like Will is the main character, but like not enough for me to be like, OK, cool. If this universe doesn't build out into something interesting with cool fights, it's going to lose me. You know, so this is not the best episode of Wistoria. Should we get? I don't know, Damon's. Yeah, dude, this show is not good yet. It's not it's not none of these three episodes have been particularly interesting.
Speaker 1:
[37:42] Is this going to be your Nick Hates anime?
Speaker 2:
[37:44] I do. This is a Nick. Listen, I'm honestly, I'm so down on everything we watch this week. Except for me, if I had it, watch Marriage Talks in right before we did this podcast, I would be pissed. But I'd be lying to you if I if I didn't say right now, I wouldn't pause this podcast so I could go downstairs and watch the second episode of Marriage Talks. I fucking love that goddamn show. So if you're not watching Marriage Talks and you're doing something wrong. Everything else we watched this week pissed me off.
Speaker 1:
[38:15] That's so crazy. I even Liar's Game. I was like, this is fine. Like. Here up, I'm pretty happy with everything else we watch. I will say Daemon's is slower than like. Oh, witch hat.
Speaker 2:
[38:33] Run off, run off, run off to me what happened in this episode of Daemon's real quick.
Speaker 1:
[38:37] That's tough.
Speaker 2:
[38:38] Yeah, there was the Onigiri.
Speaker 1:
[38:40] You see, yeah, I wrote I wrote I could watch her open Onigiri CGI Onigiri all day.
Speaker 2:
[38:45] Oh, I do. My favorite part of this episode was the fact that when she was opening the Onigiri, it it the the string, the string part lagged on the part that always gets stuck. And I was like, that is incredible attention to detail.
Speaker 1:
[38:56] Oh, I'd seen her do the string. I like that when she unwrapped one side, it gets like a little on Onigiri. And she like pushes it back in.
Speaker 2:
[39:03] That's good.
Speaker 1:
[39:03] Yeah. All relatable stuff, all worth the budget.
Speaker 2:
[39:08] And then well, considering the fact that the rest of the episode was dedicated to them eating a varied assortment of other bento boxes.
Speaker 1:
[39:15] Yes. So this episode three, they're at a gas station for a lot of it. We get to see a very frightening anglerfish. Do you watch these when when we watch them?
Speaker 2:
[39:26] Oh, oh, oh, oh, the angler. OK, yes, the guy, the lantern fish that he uses to kill the fucking stalker.
Speaker 1:
[39:32] Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:
[39:32] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:33] Oh, real spooky like chainsaw man, ass demon.
Speaker 2:
[39:37] This mongaka loves little hands grabbing people so much because it's also every time the door of truth opens, it's always little hands grabbing people's moot like body.
Speaker 1:
[39:45] Yeah. This mongaka is terrified of the concept of a bunch of hands, especially considering like it's already a big, spooky anglerfish. Like, he's standing in its mouth. That's scary enough.
Speaker 2:
[39:58] That's good. You got him.
Speaker 1:
[40:00] If anything, once the hands started showing up, I'm like, this is less scary than getting eaten by the fish.
Speaker 2:
[40:05] About to be eaten by an anglerfish. And the woman that I stalked into this elevator, I was going to kill anyways. I'm stabbing the thing she turned into. You must believe I'm going to try and stab my way out of that situation. You know, I'd be paralyzed with fear, probably 100% valid, because I've never been. I've never been consumed by an anglerfish.
Speaker 1:
[40:23] You've never been anglerfish.
Speaker 2:
[40:24] I've never been anglerfish. I probably never will be anglerfish. They're this big. Do you know that? An anglerfish is legitimately the size of a quarter.
Speaker 1:
[40:30] I know. One came to the surface and it's the size of a plum pit.
Speaker 2:
[40:33] Yeah. So I'll probably never be anglerfish unless, for some reason, radioactive anglerfish, something like that. I feel like I'd stab my way out. I'd be like Omni Man making his way out of that bug. I'm working my way out the guts.
Speaker 1:
[40:45] No, it's got too many exterior teeth. Anything with teeth on the outside is too scary for me.
Speaker 2:
[40:51] That's a good point. It's a real like Venus flytrap situation. Once you're in there, you're stuck in that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:
[40:57] You're not you when you're getting anglerfish. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[41:00] Is he in hell now?
Speaker 1:
[41:02] I don't know. Is he dead? Yeah, he's got to be.
Speaker 2:
[41:05] He's definitely dead.
Speaker 1:
[41:05] Well, he's dead for sure.
Speaker 2:
[41:06] I like this guy. He's giving like the anglerfish man, the anglerfish man. I'm also a fan of the anglerfish.
Speaker 1:
[41:15] No, I meant not the stalker.
Speaker 2:
[41:17] Not the stalker. Big fan of his work. Hate him now that he's dead.
Speaker 1:
[41:20] Yeah, exactly. Um, huh?
Speaker 2:
[41:22] No, you know, I just hate to see a guy lose his prime like that, you know.
Speaker 1:
[41:28] But yeah, I like I like the big anglerfish. That's a cool. All the daemons come in duos, come in sixes and sevens.
Speaker 2:
[41:36] So is he is he fish and angler? Yeah, it was. Are the hands one and the fish is the other?
Speaker 1:
[41:42] Yeah, they get pretty loosey goosey with it, where it's like, no, the hands aren't one. The dangle.
Speaker 2:
[41:48] Oh, yeah, the dangle is one. Oh, that's because that's the lady. The lady was the dangle and then the fish is the other. That's good.
Speaker 1:
[41:56] Yeah. The lady's the dangle and the fish is the angle.
Speaker 2:
[41:58] Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1:
[41:59] We've been Otaku's.
Speaker 2:
[42:00] Baby, we're doing good work today.
Speaker 1:
[42:03] Yeah, this is a slow anime. Yeah, which I think is fine because honestly, so is full metal.
Speaker 2:
[42:10] Full metal doesn't get like what I would identify as like good until episode six when you get the show Tucker stuff.
Speaker 1:
[42:15] No, that's three. Unfortunately, that's episode three of Brotherhood. I don't know when it is in regular, but I'm like, we need a show Tucker episode because like saying full brotherhood is not slow. And episode one is too fast, where it's like I tried showing Sarah and like another friend of mine. And they're like, it's so much so soon and so confusing that like their eyes glaze over.
Speaker 2:
[42:42] That's the majority. That's not in the manga. The majority of the freezer alchemist is not even in the manga.
Speaker 1:
[42:49] Yeah, I've heard that. But like episode one is too overstimulating. Episode two is like so whatever mid.
Speaker 2:
[42:56] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[42:57] And then episode three is show Tucker, which is like, oh, there's something here.
Speaker 2:
[43:01] Yeah. You need to grit your teeth through 45 ish minutes of content until you get to like the greatest three episode arc ever.
Speaker 1:
[43:08] And I'm not like I don't unenjoy or dislike rather a real word. I don't dislike Daimons of the Shadow Realm, but seeing people like, I don't know, I got to get off of like anime hype TikTok because it's too many people being like liars game blew me away. And then I get tricked into watching the people are just lying.
Speaker 2:
[43:27] The game, the game is views and people are lying.
Speaker 1:
[43:30] But it's like and I get the bag. But like, you know, this isn't like a Gachiyakata yet. No, like it's enjoyable and I like the voice acting a lot.
Speaker 2:
[43:42] And it's good voice acting. It's pretty, you know, that it's written by a good Mungaka. So it gets a longer leash than everything else. But it hasn't accomplished. It feels to me ankle deep right now.
Speaker 1:
[43:52] As long as we get this is like how so leveling was where I was like, the second we stop getting a fight, I'll be bored. Yeah, we don't need a fight. But the second they stop giving me a new daemon every episode and no fight, I might be bored. Like the anglerfish was enough for me to be like, oh, this is fun. I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2:
[44:10] Yeah, because he's like that Mays Hughes ask like gruffy kind of side character.
Speaker 1:
[44:15] Mays Hughes. I think he's evil.
Speaker 2:
[44:17] I do think he killed a stalker. He killed a woman stalker.
Speaker 1:
[44:21] I think.
Speaker 2:
[44:21] But wasn't he written by a woman who's probably had stalkers?
Speaker 1:
[44:26] I think he's with the gobble girl.
Speaker 2:
[44:29] The gobble girl? Gobble. The kage mori. The kage mori. What? She's with the kage mori. That's that group.
Speaker 1:
[44:37] Oh, I think so. I think he's with the gobble girl.
Speaker 2:
[44:40] He's with the gobble.
Speaker 1:
[44:40] So they're ambiguous.
Speaker 2:
[44:42] I think they're probably the good guys. I think it's going to be a review of the village where the bad people. I think they are the bad people. You know what? I actually have to push back on the FMAB thing. Because the first couple of episodes of FMAB, before we even got the show Tucker, we got Edward and Al trying to summon their mother back to life. And that, that's like dark, deep. Like you see like Edd be like, no, I won't lose my brother. And like sealing him to like a suit of armor in the corner. Him like losing his arm and his leg. That shit was heavy.
Speaker 1:
[45:10] Fullmetal Alchemist does have a way more gripping immediate premise. 100%. Even just looking at them.
Speaker 2:
[45:17] What's the immediate premise of Daemon's The Shadow Realm? I need to find my sister and mother?
Speaker 1:
[45:21] It's a big question mark, I think is the point of it. Yeah, it's like very like because the bit with the kid, Yuma or something, probably not even close, but the main kid.
Speaker 2:
[45:33] Yeah, something like Yuzu or some shit like that. Yura.
Speaker 1:
[45:35] The bit with him is that he's like ripped out of a familiar world into a very complex, confusing one. Also, his sister was murdered by who is apparently his real sister.
Speaker 2:
[45:45] Yes. His sister is blood. The bones are money.
Speaker 1:
[45:57] But I think the bit is that it's supposed to be like immediately hyper disorienting because it is for him.
Speaker 2:
[46:04] I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[46:05] And so but with that, yeah, you don't have like even just growing up before seeing Full Metal Alchemist, seeing Ed standing next to Alphonse and people being like, that's his younger brother. Yeah. You're like, I have so many questions. I want answered immediately.
Speaker 2:
[46:22] So I guess the same thing does kind of happen where like, oh, the sister is now bigger than the brother on account of fact that she's eaten more.
Speaker 1:
[46:28] I guess you have put me in check. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[46:31] Right.
Speaker 1:
[46:31] Because shuffle around some pawns here.
Speaker 2:
[46:32] Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. It's not live. It's not live here. You amend your amend your argument real quick.
Speaker 1:
[46:38] Yeah. This is as good as Full Metal Alchemist.
Speaker 2:
[46:40] That's what I was thinking as well. That was my exact point here. Yeah. I don't know. It's just an entire episode about also, is there not a brother? Is there not another brother? Did I hallucinate a brother?
Speaker 1:
[46:48] You were wrong. And people were mad about it.
Speaker 2:
[46:49] The twins. It was a it was a girl and a boy.
Speaker 1:
[46:54] Come now.
Speaker 2:
[46:54] The twins.
Speaker 1:
[46:55] Yeah. It's the girl and the boy.
Speaker 2:
[46:57] OK.
Speaker 1:
[46:57] The other guy was just his friend.
Speaker 2:
[46:59] OK. So that's not his brother now because they were like, oh, these babies are twins. And then they weren't like, this one's got a penis and this one does it. And then immediately the first person they show is not the sister. It's like his friend who also has black hair. So I was like, oh, that's his brother kind of thing.
Speaker 1:
[47:15] Well, he has blonde hair. So if anything, none of them look like him.
Speaker 2:
[47:18] Well, no, no, no. The first person they show.
Speaker 1:
[47:20] Oh, yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[47:21] Is his black haired friend. I was like, oh, they're twins.
Speaker 1:
[47:24] That's fair.
Speaker 2:
[47:25] But obviously fraternal twins can be like male and female.
Speaker 1:
[47:28] But yeah, yeah, I don't know. Just to push back one more time on full metal, when I was doing my reaction series, right? I remember so many people were like, it's not until you get to episode like 20 that it becomes like, oh, I get why this is considered peak. Not that episodes one through 20 aren't good. Like they are.
Speaker 2:
[47:50] I'd argue, if anything, the middle part of Full Alchemist is the worst part.
Speaker 1:
[47:57] I think Full Metal Alchemist is like, just gets better from beginning to end, and it doesn't really slow down.
Speaker 2:
[48:03] Everything around the envy, lust, gluttony, all of them, although Homunculus is really good. When you get to the fucking chimeras, like the father, I guess that's like middle late, F maybe is the only weak part. It's like the early 50s in the episodes. That's the only weak part for me.
Speaker 1:
[48:22] You're talking about like the zombies?
Speaker 2:
[48:23] Yeah, kind of, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[48:24] That's so cool because Amestria is like fucking evil and Salim is fucking spoilering. I don't know. It's pretty sick.
Speaker 2:
[48:36] But I'm not saying there's a bad part of FMAB. I'm just saying like I wouldn't tell somebody that, oh, it doesn't get good until episode 20, because I'd say it's good rather immediately.
Speaker 1:
[48:43] I agree it's good, but it doesn't become like, oh, I get why this is considered like one of the best of all time. And I'd say right now, Shadows of or Demons of the Shadow Realm, worst title ever maybe.
Speaker 2:
[48:54] Yeah, Daemons of the Shadow Realm.
Speaker 1:
[48:55] Daemons of the Shadow Realm, which sounds like a Yu-Gi-Oh card.
Speaker 2:
[49:00] 100%.
Speaker 1:
[49:02] I don't know. It is good. I don't dread watching this.
Speaker 2:
[49:05] I don't dread watching it either, but-
Speaker 1:
[49:06] In the way that like I'm not excited for Wistoria, but I will watch it.
Speaker 2:
[49:11] I would say I'm more excited for this than I am Wistoria, simply on account of the fact that this comes with more legacy. It gets a longer rope than Wistoria. This can have three bad episodes, and because I have so much respect for the Mungaka, I will keep going. And this is the kind of show that it's not bad enough for me to ever really be like, well, I can't watch it again this week, but I'll never, I won't sing the praises of Daemon to the Shadow Realm. It just, to me, feels ankle deep. The power system is not all that complicated. Okay, everyone has Daemons. We haven't fleshed out what a Daemon is. We haven't fleshed out the Daemon realm. And I'm sure at some point we will. But it's just like, so the power system is not that deep. Characters are less compelling than they are in Fullmetal Alchemist. The action isn't all that interesting. There's some good action sequences. I like the gobble shit. I like him fucking lacing that girl with arrows. But it's just, it's...
Speaker 1:
[50:00] It's not there yet.
Speaker 2:
[50:01] Yeah, it's just not there yet. It's uncooked.
Speaker 1:
[50:04] Yeah, I think once left and right get some more screen time, that'll be fun.
Speaker 2:
[50:09] Apparently you can just rename them to whatever you want. They're like, hey, you name us what you want here. And it's like, so what, it's left and right arbitrary?
Speaker 1:
[50:16] Yeah, it's like naming your Pokemon, I guess. Yeah, still Blaziken, even if you name it Chungo.
Speaker 2:
[50:23] Fuck ass. I do it all the time.
Speaker 1:
[50:25] I love if he's like, they're like, you could even rename us Chungo and fuck ass.
Speaker 2:
[50:30] And he's like, wait, hold on, hold on, but I only know one word. I just want you to know, I only know one word. It's my original name.
Speaker 1:
[50:36] Yeah, it's like, never mind.
Speaker 2:
[50:37] You can't really never mind. You've lost naming privileges.
Speaker 1:
[50:40] Yeah, they're fun, though. They're cute so far. I get it. Whatever. Anyway, next one.
Speaker 2:
[50:46] Yeah, this is listen. The next one is one where you're going to give me some heat.
Speaker 1:
[50:52] Whatever you say, I'm going to be mad.
Speaker 2:
[50:53] I'm going to get some heat from both you and probably the community because the community is hyping up. Mapa's newest project is the greatest thing they've ever done. Apparently, the thing that stole all of the budget from Invincible, even though Invincible is a two point five million dollar budget per episode.
Speaker 1:
[51:08] And they're not made by the same studio.
Speaker 2:
[51:10] They're both put on by Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1:
[51:12] I guess so, yes.
Speaker 2:
[51:14] Because the next thing we're going to talk about is Nippon Son Goku.
Speaker 1:
[51:17] I just don't understand you anymore.
Speaker 2:
[51:19] Which is fine. It's fine. It's objectively fine. Do your bit now, Danny.
Speaker 1:
[51:31] I don't know. My bit is leaving.
Speaker 2:
[51:33] I go, please.
Speaker 1:
[51:35] It's so cool. It's so...
Speaker 2:
[51:37] Have you seen all three episodes?
Speaker 1:
[51:39] No, I saw the first two. I didn't know three came out.
Speaker 2:
[51:43] The first two episodes are good. I would even reckon to say that the first episode is great. The second episode is good. The third episode literally put me to sleep.
Speaker 1:
[51:50] That's crazy. Cause two ends on like a cliffhanger. Of like, they're gonna go fight this guy.
Speaker 2:
[51:56] Yeah, that's fair. Yes.
Speaker 1:
[51:57] So please explain what it's about because I am a little confused, kind of.
Speaker 2:
[52:01] Uh, what is Nippon Sengoku about? Uh, everything literally. Hey, by the way, do you want to crash course in fake Japanese history?
Speaker 1:
[52:11] It's an intense first, like six minutes.
Speaker 2:
[52:13] It's an intense first. They do it every episode. Every episode, the first three and a half minutes are like, there was a battle, here are the people involved, and now they're gone. And it's gone. It's like South Park fucking stock market, and it's gone. Um, it's about, uh, like a new era of Japan that's a post-apocalyptic-esque future, where essentially, uh, climate, raising ages, um, and war with China, Russia, India, and America has basically put Japan back into the feudal era. So all like, like people don't have cars. Uh, people use swords in clubs to fight. Guns are still around, but like barely. And everything is now back in the Meiji era. The Meiji era is the era that existed before the current era of Japan. Yes, Japan is currently in an era.
Speaker 1:
[52:59] Isn't it the Sengoku era? That's why it's called that?
Speaker 2:
[53:02] The era right now is called the Sengoku era?
Speaker 1:
[53:04] They are like the one the show is.
Speaker 2:
[53:05] Yes, they are in the Sengoku era.
Speaker 1:
[53:07] It's back to that, not the Meiji era.
Speaker 2:
[53:09] No, it's back to the Meiji era. The new era they are in, they call the Sengoku era, but they say, our technology has reverted to the Meiji era, which is kind of when Demon Slayer took over. That's when Demon Slayer took over.
Speaker 1:
[53:21] So like 1910?
Speaker 2:
[53:22] It's 1860 to 1914.
Speaker 1:
[53:25] World War I is canonically happening.
Speaker 2:
[53:27] World War I is actively happening while Demon Slayer is going on. They had bigger fish to fry apparently. And so it's all about a boy. What?
Speaker 1:
[53:37] It's just like the idea that they're in the Infinity Castle. It's like, Squawk! Squawk!
Speaker 3:
[53:43] Archduke Franz Ferdinand has been assassinated! Squawk! Squawk!
Speaker 2:
[53:47] Prussia's gone! And they're like, what the fuck is Prussia?
Speaker 1:
[53:51] It's like, they're like, Akas is like, stop, stop, stop, stop! This is going to be devastating for the world.
Speaker 2:
[53:59] Oh, no, Austria is Austria hungry. There's so many leverage assets in Germany right now.
Speaker 1:
[54:05] No, no. What's going on in Germany? That's probably OK, right?
Speaker 2:
[54:09] They're doing, they're doing OK, cool. They're morally ambiguous in this one. All right, good.
Speaker 1:
[54:13] They're doing what? What's a Jewish?
Speaker 2:
[54:16] Yeah. What do you mean? Well, listen, I don't have I don't have any of the daytime politics.
Speaker 1:
[54:23] Oh, that's worse than what we're doing.
Speaker 2:
[54:27] In the daytime, in the daytime, they're doing that. How many millions of tons?
Speaker 1:
[54:33] But yeah, I had just a hock.
Speaker 2:
[54:35] Yeah, we got to go to Germany. We got to put me in the box.
Speaker 1:
[54:38] Oh, man. Anyway, yeah, the world sucks in Sengoku, whatever, Nippon.
Speaker 2:
[54:45] And there's the main character whose name is Chizuru.
Speaker 1:
[54:49] I never know.
Speaker 2:
[54:50] And he's married to a lady who is obsessed with calling him a pussy.
Speaker 1:
[54:55] She's mean.
Speaker 2:
[54:56] And because objectively, he kind of is.
Speaker 1:
[54:59] Yeah, he sucks.
Speaker 2:
[55:00] And then the one time she decides to not be a pussy gets her decapitated.
Speaker 1:
[55:04] Yeah, which is pretty hard.
Speaker 3:
[55:06] Which was hard.
Speaker 1:
[55:07] Oh, pretty. I really thought I usually have a good radar of when a character is just there to die.
Speaker 3:
[55:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[55:15] This one really snuck up.
Speaker 2:
[55:17] It was there. They're like falling asleep. They're giggling. Like a tax man is stealing money from local people. And she walks up and she's like, taxes aren't supposed to be collected today. Blah, blah, blah. I'll call this person or that person and basically gets this person, this tax man to stop taxing all these people, drives him out of the town. And then both him and his wife are like, sitting in bed and they're giggling. They're like, ha ha ha ha. We did such a good job. And then he wakes up and she's not there. She wakes up and there's a there's a trail of blood out of his house. I was like, either this guy is the deepest sleeper of all time or literal ninjas abducted this woman.
Speaker 1:
[55:51] They, you know, they got her.
Speaker 2:
[55:52] They they done got her.
Speaker 1:
[55:54] Sometimes they just get you.
Speaker 2:
[55:55] She could have done it to herself, too. I feel like that's a theory we need to consider.
Speaker 1:
[55:58] Well, he like wakes up and there's a trail of blood leading to a box. And the fucking tax guys like that's your wife's head. Here you go. Do you want this?
Speaker 2:
[56:07] He's like, what's in the box?
Speaker 1:
[56:09] Um, this anime is gorgeous.
Speaker 2:
[56:14] Like it is for those you don't know, Mapa is animating it. And it's one of the shows. Mapa is so weird about this. Mapa, I feel like has like two different companies. And one of the companies is like the one where they play their motorcycle intro at the beginning. And then the others are like, they're really good anime.
Speaker 1:
[56:28] It's weird, scathing.
Speaker 2:
[56:30] I would like to go to the motorcycle ones. JJK, right? Like JJK, they don't do it. I don't think they do it in Hell's Paradise.
Speaker 1:
[56:36] They do it to Hell's.
Speaker 2:
[56:36] Oh, do they? I mean, that kind of makes sense. It's a bucket. It's bucket. They didn't do it to AOT.
Speaker 1:
[56:43] That's correct. Yeah, Mapa is weird because they'll give you like an AOT where the budget is seemingly non-existent. And it'll be like, yeah, Nippon Sengoku should probably be the best looking thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 2:
[56:57] It's going to be black and white, but also look like it was like painted like pastel-y watercolors kind of.
Speaker 1:
[57:02] Yeah, it's one of the coolest fucking things I've seen. And also what I assume Golden Kamui is like in the fact that it's drowning in historical context. Yes, drowning in his like I have like a five point reason for this, where it's like drowning in historical context. It kind of looks like Golden Kamui in terms of like the outlines and the character designs.
Speaker 2:
[57:25] It's the most like it's the most hard black outlines of all time.
Speaker 1:
[57:29] It's uncomfortably funny. Yeah, like it's a really dark and graphic, but like has like Jojo's esk humor.
Speaker 2:
[57:39] Yeah, you get like you get like the the chubby fatso or whatever they call him. And he's like drawn quarter this man in 20 seconds and he's like, no, no, no, no. And then he's gone.
Speaker 1:
[57:48] Yeah. And they do it. It's crazy. Yeah, I love that first episode. It is like this is one of those anime where I'm like, this is an expert level watch in terms of like reading speed and comprehension. Yes, I would not recommend this is your first anime.
Speaker 2:
[58:01] It is.
Speaker 1:
[58:02] If you're reading it.
Speaker 2:
[58:03] Also want to count on the fact like you have to you have to have an anime brain to find interest in like the oh, this is about a guy literally becoming a politician in a divided Japan to try and bring it together. It's not an action anime. It is.
Speaker 1:
[58:15] There's action. Episode two opens with like a really cool fucking spy guy and also ends with them seemingly about to fight a dude.
Speaker 2:
[58:23] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[58:24] But I don't know what happens in episode three. You hate it.
Speaker 2:
[58:27] There's a like a general in the Yaman Yamato army or the Takayama army or something like that, which is in this one eastern or western section of Japan. Listen, it's my job to know the shit and even I'm confused. But he climbs up. There's like a rebelling country. He climbs up an overpass and just blows a couple of guys away with a revolver. That scene is sick. But like the main character's entire gambit, he's like, I know maps and agriculture and I will fix the maps and agriculture of this nation to like unify it so I can like drive out the people who killed my wife kind of thing.
Speaker 1:
[58:59] Well, he knows maps, agriculture and semantics.
Speaker 2:
[59:02] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[59:03] His superpower is knowing semantics really well.
Speaker 2:
[59:07] The grammar Nazi of all grammar. He's like, first off, she never said anyone's name. She referred to Fatso. He made that conclusion. You know?
Speaker 1:
[59:14] Yeah, I like it. I don't know. It's like this scratch is a liar game itch where I'm like, oh, I'm excited to see some like riddles take place. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[59:24] You know, it's assassination classroom or lulu or like Code Geass minus the action. Like it's like, oh, if you want to watch a smart emcee politic his way through the game and like rise to the top. And you're like, oh, like the action itself is the oh, like he gets you haven't seen Episode 3, so I won't explain it. But like like like he does these things and things work out for him. And you feel smart for like figuring him out.
Speaker 1:
[59:47] It's it also isn't just like beautiful in like a screenshot perspective. Like it is every frame is gorgeous. But it's also like elusive samurai where anything that every scene is like the most artistic version of itself. Like someone will just be like talking and it'll cut in their head is like slowly spinning and like being a clock or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[60:13] Or there's that sequence where the guy's climbing through the window and trying to stab the guy with like Elzebaz haircut or whatever.
Speaker 1:
[60:18] Yeah, like it's it's over animated to hell in like my favorite way.
Speaker 2:
[60:23] It looks really good. Moppa put a bunch of money into it. I think that's because this is their only anime this season. But yeah, I mean, it's it's a fun watch.
Speaker 1:
[60:34] Why do you hate episode three?
Speaker 2:
[60:36] Is he humble? He's wearing a purple jacket and only lives that people serve him. So he's just going to brainmog everyone. Three year time skip.
Speaker 1:
[60:43] It's just it's three year time skip protagonist dies.
Speaker 2:
[60:47] Yeah, he's gone. They put his they put his wife's head back on just mumbling through. It's just like, I don't know, like I politicking is not what gets me excited. Like I love a fantasy world. I love a I love like the world building that kind of thing. But like I dropped assassination classroom.
Speaker 1:
[61:07] I dropped dropped assassination classroom.
Speaker 2:
[61:10] I dropped. No, no, no, I dropped. I'm sorry. Not a sass. Fucking high school of fuck. Not a sass nation classroom.
Speaker 1:
[61:17] What's the one with a school of does not narrow it down.
Speaker 2:
[61:20] Oh, I know Koji show high school of the elite, which is kind of this exact thing where it's like, oh, this is like a super smart. Like he was trained in the white room and like he brainmogs everybody, but also he's incredibly like everyone doubts him. It doesn't believe that he's strong because he's small and he blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like that's not exactly what this is. The show is substantially smarter than that. But like the politicking isn't really what excites me in anime. That's just like not really for me. Like I enjoy the occasional like, whoa, he did it kind of thing. Like there's a big sequence in episode three where like the main character, you know, brainmogs the general basically. And you're like, like in that moment, you're supposed to be like, wow, such a good play. Like this was so smart. And I get that. And I get why people would enjoy that. But I'm like, that's not exactly what I like. Go to an anime to find.
Speaker 1:
[62:09] Gotcha. Yeah. You want the flashing colors.
Speaker 2:
[62:11] I want the flashing colors. I want, but I also like, I want like the like unique.
Speaker 1:
[62:15] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[62:15] It's like that. There's a reason I haven't watched like Kingdom, Golden Kamui. I've been told to watch Golden Kamui a million times. Something about feudal Japan centric anime lose me every time I I relate to that so hard, but it's feudal China, so I can't even argue with you like, yeah, I like the only feudal anime that's ever like held my attentions like Samurai Champloo, Demon Slayer, Demon, but like Demon Slayer is like hardly even like it's not. It's not about the time period it's in. Right. Like like this is a show.
Speaker 1:
[62:44] It's just an excuse to not have that many guns.
Speaker 2:
[62:47] Yeah, literally. It's like this. This is a show built around the concept of this time period. You know, like the time period is a character in the show.
Speaker 1:
[62:54] You don't like a historical drama. Yeah, which is essentially what this is.
Speaker 2:
[62:58] And even Apothecary Diaries isn't even like a historical drama. Like, yes, it is like, I don't know, the Forbidden. It's the Forbidden Temple. And also it's like very much feudal like China. But like that's not a central part of the story. A central part of the story is more hint of like Mao Mao, poison. And then like like personal interpersonal relationships between established characters.
Speaker 1:
[63:18] Gotcha. Yeah. Wow. Well, this is the new orb and you're dumb for not liking it.
Speaker 2:
[63:24] So you'll watch eight episodes of it and then we'll never talk about it again.
Speaker 1:
[63:26] We'll see.
Speaker 2:
[63:27] And then we'll be like, wow, 2027, animated best original anime. Nippon's at Goku and you'll be like, I told you. And then we'll be like, cool. We didn't. Neither of us finished it.
Speaker 1:
[63:36] Yeah, that's exactly what will happen.
Speaker 2:
[63:38] It's fun. It's fun. It looks good. And if it's your bag, you're very much going to enjoy it. It's just not all that much my bag.
Speaker 1:
[63:44] And this gets my week's ring a ding recommendation. We do that every week.
Speaker 2:
[63:51] I'm going to save my ring a ding recommendation for another anime. And that other anime is...
Speaker 1:
[63:55] You've been ring a ding about it all.
Speaker 2:
[63:56] I've been ring a ding about it all goddamn day. Which brings us to our next episode, which is not anime.
Speaker 1:
[64:04] Invincible. I'd put that there because I love the next two things.
Speaker 2:
[64:08] I love the next two things. And I have...
Speaker 1:
[64:14] You're going to get me shot just being on this podcast with you.
Speaker 2:
[64:17] I'm going to shoot the show. I'm going to find Robert Kirkman. I'm going to find Robert Kirkman. And I'm going to sharpen my four fingers. And I'm going to poke him in the gut as hard as I can.
Speaker 1:
[64:26] How should we go about this? Should I guess the things you're pissed about?
Speaker 2:
[64:29] Go ahead.
Speaker 1:
[64:30] Okay. Death baiting.
Speaker 2:
[64:32] I just stop hurting people like, I don't look, oh, oh, fucking, oh, thregs so bad. If in the next episode, they reveal that Thaddeus or Thaddeus or whatever his fuck ass name is, is still alive. They're like, yeah, we have a head reattachment surgery. I wouldn't even be surprised at this moment.
Speaker 1:
[64:48] Imagine thinking Thaddeus is dead. Imagine not being a comic reader. I just I know he's super dead.
Speaker 2:
[64:55] There could be a fit.
Speaker 1:
[64:56] His head is off.
Speaker 2:
[64:57] His head is off. But also, like, are organs optional in this fucking universe? Oh, does nobody need their spine and or small intestine?
Speaker 1:
[65:05] I'm pretty sure. So this is episode.
Speaker 2:
[65:07] If you get your jaw ripped off, you die. You die. That's it. That's it. A jaw off floating through the expanse, the expanse of space. Well, mind you, he's holding his breath. Oliver's holding his breath and got and oh, no.
Speaker 1:
[65:21] You can do that with your mouth open.
Speaker 2:
[65:23] Not if you're un fucking conscious. Oliver is knocked unconscious, has his arm ripped off, his jaw ripped off and doesn't die.
Speaker 1:
[65:32] In space, I didn't consider it.
Speaker 2:
[65:34] In space? Fucking Omni Man has to float. Omni Man floats through space until people find him hours later with his guts jumbled.
Speaker 1:
[65:43] I love Oliver getting his jaw and arm ripped off in space and then they go, Oliver. And then they spend the next 10 minutes ripping through a planet. And then they're like, hey, someone find Oliver.
Speaker 2:
[65:56] By the way, do we know, do we remember where we started? Do we remember where in this debris field we just created was the corpse of my younger brother?
Speaker 1:
[66:05] Wow. Yeah, that's all so valid. I remember in the comics, I'm 90 percent sure this is the case, but I could be wrong as I am with every statement that comes out of my mouth. I'm pretty sure when episode 7 of season 4 of Invincible, yes, when Thrag fists Omni Man, yeah, I noticed that it's like off center, like a grade four Pokemon card. OK, his fist is like to the right of him. And I'm pretty sure in the comic, they're like, he just missed my heart. A Viltrimite can't live without his heart. But because he was a little off center, I think, I think that's in the comic, which is dumb in the comic because I think later.
Speaker 2:
[66:52] That's just Anosuke saying he moved his organs. It's Anosuke saying, oh, I lived in the mountains, so I'm immune to poison. And then also these are the important contextual, because that wouldn't have helped at all. These are the important contextual things that they just don't leave, they don't put in the fucking adaptation.
Speaker 1:
[67:07] I think later there's like, and I won't say this spoilery, but like later I think there is another instance with a character, and they're like, fuck, they got the heart this time.
Speaker 2:
[67:21] Like literally last episode, I was like, start aiming a little more, more north than you think. If you have four fingers pointed at someone's gut, just be like, what if I want six inches further up?
Speaker 1:
[67:31] Just do that in his face.
Speaker 2:
[67:33] And then like, I get it, I get it. He was like, oh, I killed daddy is too quickly. I'm going to go slower with you, Mark, or something like that.
Speaker 1:
[67:40] But like, oh, and then he's like, we're too few, which is dumb in this episode.
Speaker 2:
[67:45] And honestly, after killing two other Viltrumites, he's like, he looks at him, he's like, well, we might injure sperm at some point.
Speaker 1:
[67:54] What? Nothing. Anyway. What? Yeah. It's, it's silly. It's tough.
Speaker 2:
[68:02] It sucks. It all sucks.
Speaker 1:
[68:04] You know, what's funny is that like invincible, if you told me if everyone unanimously was loving the writing of invincible up until this point, which hasn't been the case, but if they were, I'd be like, hey, some real stupid shit is around the corner. Like it has not jumped the shark yet by my standards.
Speaker 2:
[68:28] What we just watched was not the jumping up the shark. Like Mark Thaddeus and Omni Man working together to follow a space laser through the core of planet Viltrum, blowing it up for some reason that blows it up.
Speaker 1:
[68:42] And then I was also confused. I figured it out. Oh, so they because yeah, he shoots space racer. Yes, that's correct. Yeah, shoots the planet and seemingly they're just following the laser.
Speaker 2:
[68:55] That's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1:
[68:57] And I was like, it seems like the laser is the one blowing up the planet. At the end, the laser comes out and it's just like it's just a laser.
Speaker 2:
[69:08] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[69:08] And then they come out and like a bullet leaving a bigger exit wound. It's like their combined shockwave that blows up the planet. And I guess the laser is just like clearing a path for them.
Speaker 2:
[69:21] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[69:21] So it's like the gravity of their flight actually blows up the planet.
Speaker 2:
[69:25] I mean, that part makes 100 percent sense. Like that's like a fucking thing.
Speaker 1:
[69:27] I at first was like, it seems like they're following the laser for no reason.
Speaker 2:
[69:30] Yeah. Yeah. They just wanted to be in there. They just wanted to burn off their shirts. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's just. I don't know, man, I like I can't believe it gets more ridiculous than this. I think we just need to either either kill people or don't. Omni man can die. Oliver can die. I don't like I like they can die. I don't I'm not so connected to be carried. Alan can die. There's no one in this story that if they killed even Mark, if they killed Mark, I'd be like, you know what? Cool. More space racer. Also, more space racer walk the walk in walk the fucking space racer. Yeah, immediately, immediately. The first step, the first sign of things going south, the strongest guy they have is like, got to get guys. We got to go.
Speaker 1:
[70:17] Got to get guys.
Speaker 2:
[70:18] We have to leave. He was like, leave him behind. All the Viltrimites are dead. It's like, we need to leave. No, we don't. You have the gun that can kill Thragg.
Speaker 1:
[70:25] Even if I'm like, oh, you're not talking about Thragg. I see. I thought you meant like it's dumb that Thragg bounces.
Speaker 2:
[70:32] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[70:33] But even if I'm going to be like a generous and be like, all right, I get Thragg being like, we've killed too many of us, like because he sees his planet get destroyed. That's why he's like, we need as many Viltrimites left as possible.
Speaker 2:
[70:45] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[70:46] Imprison them.
Speaker 2:
[70:47] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[70:48] Like kidnap them. 100%. Break all of his limbs.
Speaker 2:
[70:50] 100%. Yeah, literally just make Mark a fucking like, break him, turn him into meat soup because he'll survive. Yeah. He'll survive. Like you'll talk to him the whole time. You'll fucking indoctrinate him to Viltrim. Grab Oliver and Omni-Man while you're at it.
Speaker 1:
[71:03] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[71:03] You know, don't, I fucking grab them out of the debris. And it's just, oh, but God, I can't believe it gets worse. I can't believe it gets worse. That's insane to me.
Speaker 1:
[71:10] Last week when we talked about what does worse death baiting, the Invincible or Demon Slayer, and I was like, Invincible has some bad death baiting coming up. This Oliver moment was what I was referring to. And also some other instances that haven't happened yet.
Speaker 2:
[71:24] I cannot believe, one, how immediate the payoff was, and two, how immediately it's revealed that they're fine. I know, it's so insane. It's seven minutes later. It is like Omni-Man gets stabbed, Oliver gets fucking torn apart, and seven minutes later, Mark is like, Well, yeah, and I've seen people complain about it.
Speaker 1:
[71:41] And people in comments are like, What do you want them to do? Win every fight? That's not the point. The issue is when you do, I've had this issue since season one, when every fight is the most graphic instance of violence you've ever seen.
Speaker 2:
[71:56] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[71:57] None of it feels like anything.
Speaker 2:
[71:59] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[71:59] Like seeing Oliver get his jaw punched off and his arm ripped off. Obviously, I knew he was going to be okay because I read the comic. I can't imagine feeling suspense towards that because he almost died to Conquest already twice.
Speaker 2:
[72:17] The second I saw him get torn apart, my literal notes are, I said, oh, never mind, why can't you help them? Every time he pulls a trigger, a Viltrumite dies. I said, well, there goes Papa, unless of course he survives that too. Jesus fucking Christ, why even injure anyone anymore? Every time I see somebody fatally injured, until I see them, not breathe. And then even then, until the episode ends and they're still dead, I'm going to believe that they're alive. That shouldn't be the way that it goes. That's the problem with death baiting is, oh, now it's like you're crying wolf. If somebody dies, my initial response is, oh no, it's okay, fucking roll out the bullshit.
Speaker 1:
[72:56] And it's okay if you want to severely wound people, but like, break their arms. We'll like change them afterwards. Like Oliver should be afraid to fight ever again. You know, like take him out of commission.
Speaker 2:
[73:12] Four times in a row now Oliver's been like, how hard could it be? And then he's just like, every boat is broken.
Speaker 1:
[73:18] I hate any time Oliver opens his dumbass mouth and is like, Thra can't be that tough. Oliver, I've won no fights, Grayson.
Speaker 2:
[73:27] Yes, he's like, oh, listen, I fought Conquest and it's just a clip of his brain being juiced twice.
Speaker 1:
[73:33] Loses every fight, including to that dragon. Yes. Fucking yeah, but it's like, yeah, get make him so afraid to fight ever again that he like retires. If you want to punch a hole through Omni Man, that's fine. Make him like weaker than Mark now. 100%. Dude, like you have to.
Speaker 2:
[73:53] They did it with All Might. They did it with All Might.
Speaker 1:
[73:55] Yeah, give him lasting consequences.
Speaker 2:
[73:56] Yeah, like almost in the last fight with All For One, he fucking crunched my ribs in and now I'm not as strong as I used to be.
Speaker 1:
[74:02] Yeah, exactly. So also did you? Speaking of just dumb things, I didn't mind this episode, by the way. I there I'm used to this shit.
Speaker 2:
[74:10] There is good parts of this episode. There was horrifically bad parts of this episode.
Speaker 1:
[74:14] The shit I'm seeing people complain about once again is pissing me off. People are like, why can Thrag Airbend watch one anime?
Speaker 2:
[74:23] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[74:24] It's so crazy to me that people.
Speaker 2:
[74:26] That's what people are mad about. That was sick as fuck. Them flying through the center of the earth, sick as fuck.
Speaker 1:
[74:32] People aren't used to watching anime where, like, incomprehensible shit happens and you're just like, that's artistic license.
Speaker 2:
[74:40] Yes, 100%. Like, they're like, hey, by the way, Thrag is the Viltrumites, what humans are, like what Viltrumites are to humans. He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
Speaker 1:
[74:48] Being like Thrag is airbending is like being like, why does Deku have electric powers? When he turns into a little ball of lightning in all of the movies, it's just he fucking reeled back so hard.
Speaker 2:
[75:01] He made a vacuum around his fist. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:
[75:05] Fucking yeah, that's what people are mad about, which is annoying. No one's bringing up that space racer throwing a bunch of Ragnars at them in space is like the most dodgeable attack ever.
Speaker 2:
[75:17] These guys who can fly at the speed of light are like, oh no, these gigantic un-flying things. Mind you, he has one shot at this. And like you see some of the Ragnars miss and just float away. And all of these like, oh, supposedly. And also I want to talk about like the culling of the herd of the Viltrumites. Bet they wish they hadn't done that. I bet they wish they hadn't done that. Fuck it, I bet you have 20 to 30 more Viltrumites if you hadn't for some reason been like to celebrate the loss of our great regent leader, jump the closest Viltrumite. You're watching Viltrumites kill three, four Viltrumites and then just from behind, killed. And they're like, yeah, this is the best Viltrumites we have left. No, it's the luckiest.
Speaker 1:
[75:59] I get them doing like a McCarthy era thing where they're like, we, there is now a doubt and paranoia sown into our entire race. I didn't know it'd be immediate. I didn't know he'd be like, go find the betrayers and everyone would turn and kill each other now.
Speaker 2:
[76:18] And then all the three kids are just like, well, get that one. Why that one?
Speaker 1:
[76:23] It's, I think my first note was, this is the dumbest race in history.
Speaker 2:
[76:27] A hundred percent, a hundred. This is a race that never deserved the strength that it got.
Speaker 1:
[76:32] How are the Ragnars flying? Yeah, that was the stupidest thing ever. Just don't be in front of them. Like, you're in space. They can't push off anything.
Speaker 2:
[76:41] Nope, they have a one shot, a one shot attempt at fucking catching a Viltrumite here. I'll also never understand hair as a whip. The one with the whip hair and then like they just grab it. The best part about a whip is that you can let go.
Speaker 1:
[76:54] Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2:
[76:55] To the back of your head, immediate disadvantage.
Speaker 1:
[76:58] If you're grabbed, you're.
Speaker 2:
[76:59] Yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:
[77:01] Fucking...
Speaker 2:
[77:02] Also, oh, oh, we have 10 of these vials of poison that make Viltrumites turn into paper mache. Let's give them to the person who's not going to fight anybody important. Give one to everyone. Give one to everyone. Mark, fucking Nolan and even Oliver get in kissing distance of drag. Whoops.
Speaker 1:
[77:21] I guess you don't want them taking it and using it on Oliver and Mark and such. Not that it matters.
Speaker 2:
[77:26] They're already made a paper mache to drag. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:
[77:28] I was going to say the same thing about Space Racer. I get why he doesn't do it, but it's crazy. At no point did Mark just like zip up next to him and be like, hey, I'm like way more agile than you. Can I borrow the car?
Speaker 2:
[77:40] 100 percent. Hey, there's no reason for you to be here outside of your motorcycle and gun. I am both of those things.
Speaker 1:
[77:47] Yeah. I allegedly the motorcycle is faster than Viltrumites. It's still a motorcycle.
Speaker 2:
[77:51] It's still a motorcycle that like and then also like he can he he purposely points towards empty parts of the universe, right? So he understands where every empty part of the universe is forever, which implies which implies that he has infinite sight, right? To a certain degree. Shoot at them from further away. Yeah, they don't have to see you. You could you could if I travel at the speed of light, launch that shit 10 10 miles away.
Speaker 1:
[78:13] Yeah. Oh, I wrote craziest impact frame ever.
Speaker 2:
[78:17] The skull. That was pretty sick.
Speaker 1:
[78:19] Pretty cool.
Speaker 2:
[78:20] Pretty cool. But apparently they nerfed Mark because apparently like in the in the comic, he makes Thragg bleed.
Speaker 1:
[78:27] I mean, they've been nerfing Mark since episode one.
Speaker 2:
[78:29] Fair, fair, very fair.
Speaker 1:
[78:31] He was so closer to being invincible in the comic the whole time.
Speaker 2:
[78:35] And he's a real invincible.
Speaker 1:
[78:37] I will say I like considering this is what the fortieth guy who's just strong and flies that they've introduced. They did a great job at making him feel like a fun, unique threat. Yes. Yeah. Considering like we Alan does what he does. Yep. Every Viltrum does what he does. It's bulletproof. Adam Eve, kind of and more.
Speaker 2:
[79:03] Uh huh. Well, less now.
Speaker 1:
[79:04] Well, less now. But like everyone has this power set and Thragg is like the final boss and they didn't give him something new. They did a great job at like every single hit. Something interesting happened.
Speaker 2:
[79:17] He like knocks Nolan into space like that's something we've never seen before.
Speaker 1:
[79:21] That's really cool. Yeah. I like that impact frame. Thragg low key be the new Brawly.
Speaker 2:
[79:26] He feels like he feels like for the first time, a clear power scale like introduction. It's like, oh, finally, we understand what a high ender looks like.
Speaker 1:
[79:35] I love the bit where like even he like slaps Mark and we get a Mark POV and he has like a double vision. Yeah, that like put the fear of God into me where I was like, oh, he got fucking like he usually takes those, you know, 100 percent like he like he doesn't come here.
Speaker 2:
[79:53] Come up. Come up.
Speaker 1:
[79:54] Give me a hug.
Speaker 2:
[79:55] Give me a hug.
Speaker 1:
[79:56] He doesn't want it.
Speaker 2:
[79:58] He's looking at me like he wants something.
Speaker 1:
[80:00] New growth. Have you noticed that he's got?
Speaker 2:
[80:02] Yeah. He's not. He's just this. You talk about this. You talk about this right here. Yeah, we got we got a biopsies. He's got like five bumps. Yeah, he's getting old. Getting old. He's getting bumpy.
Speaker 1:
[80:12] Yeah, the pimples get so gross.
Speaker 2:
[80:14] Oh, he's going to be real gross in like two years.
Speaker 1:
[80:17] Was this your least favorite episode of Invincible this season or are you just wearing it down?
Speaker 2:
[80:22] It's just I it's just it's a fucking it's a shit storm. Like it's just like it's got the best moments of Invincible this season. Yeah, it's also got the worst. Yeah, I cannot believe now twice in this season, I've had to watch somebody get hand speared and then just be fine.
Speaker 1:
[80:39] What was the other? Oh, Mark.
Speaker 2:
[80:41] Mark, two episodes ago, the entire family has been death baited in two episodes. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1:
[80:49] I know it's like I said, like in season three, the violence is just too graphic too often. Whereas in the comic, that shit was reserved for big moments. But now it's like anytime someone dies, they're getting like thumbs through their eyes from the back of their head. And it's like all everything's a Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 2:
[81:10] Honestly, considering how fucking ridiculous it's been, Thaddeus' death was kind of tamed. It was like a fucking two and a half second film of him just being decapitated. And then Thrag was like, well, that was too quick. I got to slow it down for you guys here.
Speaker 1:
[81:23] What is this, a different show?
Speaker 2:
[81:24] Yeah. He's like, I need you to feel every single bit of your spinal cord leaving your neck.
Speaker 1:
[81:29] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[81:30] But yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't have chosen Alan to be in charge. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1:
[81:34] Oh, of all the.
Speaker 2:
[81:35] I'm choosing the guy who sounds like Seth Rogen to be in charge of the Coalition of Planets. I want as the fucking leader of of the of the free universe.
Speaker 1:
[81:46] Can I show you?
Speaker 2:
[81:48] I might have gotten a spoiler, by the way.
Speaker 1:
[81:50] OK.
Speaker 2:
[81:51] I was reading. I was trying to read ahead a little bit in the comic.
Speaker 1:
[81:54] I wonder how you got a spoiler.
Speaker 2:
[81:56] I was trying to find where in the comic the anime is. And I was just like blind clicking.
Speaker 1:
[82:00] OK.
Speaker 2:
[82:00] I was like blind clicking, trying to find where the anime is. I didn't Google it, which was like kind of fucking stupid. But I was like trying to find the end of the invincible war. I was like, I want to read ahead a little bit. I want to see what's happening here. I was like, oh, do they actually go to Earth? I think I saw Paul fighting of Ultramight. No. OK, good. I also I also might have just been bright, like because everyone's making like invincible memes right now. And everyone's like, like everyone's like Paul. Unsufferable, insufferable is everyone's calling insufferable. Fucking Adam Eve's dad is he's not invincible, insufferable. And then Omni Man, that's the big three. Or no. And then a mortal. Those are the big three.
Speaker 1:
[82:36] Did you see? There's a frame where Mark gets hit from Thrag. And for like two frames, he turns into Paul.
Speaker 3:
[82:46] No.
Speaker 1:
[82:46] Hold on. Let me show you that real quick.
Speaker 2:
[82:49] That's great.
Speaker 1:
[82:49] Mark turns into Paul.
Speaker 3:
[82:53] That's crazy.
Speaker 2:
[82:54] Why did they do my boy like that?
Speaker 1:
[82:56] That's so funny because we were like, Paul looks too much like Mark. And I was like, the Internet's going to hate that take.
Speaker 2:
[83:02] And now and now they're just making fucking Mark Paul.
Speaker 1:
[83:06] Um, hold on. Alan, the alien invincible versus game. So they didn't get it.
Speaker 2:
[83:15] They couldn't get the Seth Rogen for the fuck. So he has no lines in the fighting game.
Speaker 1:
[83:19] They got a dude who is like way overcompensating.
Speaker 2:
[83:23] OK, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[83:24] And like sounds more like to Seth Rogen. Let me see.
Speaker 2:
[83:30] Honestly, just ready.
Speaker 3:
[83:32] Oh, I want to be me too, but you need to tell me who you really are. I'm the awesome yet humble hero Alan the Alien. Who the are you?
Speaker 1:
[83:45] There's one where he does the laugh.
Speaker 3:
[83:48] Your kind knows better Let's see if you can catch the most how dangerous a ventromite can be. Okay, you've crossed the line this time, Nolan.
Speaker 2:
[84:00] I feel like I could do a better Seth Rogen than that. How did that guy get that gig? Also, you're telling me they could afford JK Simmons? They could afford Seth, what is Seth Rogen's per diem?
Speaker 1:
[84:11] Hold on, let me see.
Speaker 2:
[84:12] Also, if you're Seth Rogen here, you have to be pissed? I'd be like, oh cool, you got shittier me to do my character? I'd be like, okay, cool, maybe I should have taken the $1.6 million they offered for a half day of work.
Speaker 1:
[84:26] They did the same thing with Powerplex and he's not as bad. I'm like, all right, whatever, this is Aaron Paul enough.
Speaker 2:
[84:32] Aaron Paul is an easier voice than Seth Rogen, I feel like.
Speaker 1:
[84:35] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[84:36] You just have to find it. It's like, bitch.
Speaker 1:
[84:41] Oh, I almost threw up.
Speaker 2:
[84:49] It's like, it's like somebody trying to find an Australian accent. Good. I might. But with with with Aaron Paul, he's like, bitch, you're so bad.
Speaker 1:
[84:57] I was so not even close. I legitimately, I almost threw up, bitch.
Speaker 2:
[85:02] I'm trying to find takes a second, bitch, bitch.
Speaker 1:
[85:05] It's the gravel.
Speaker 2:
[85:06] You hit my car, bitch.
Speaker 1:
[85:08] Wow. You really like don't have it.
Speaker 2:
[85:10] I don't have it. That's so broken.
Speaker 1:
[85:12] You can't keep get away with this.
Speaker 2:
[85:15] Oh, because that's better.
Speaker 3:
[85:17] Fuck you.
Speaker 2:
[85:17] That's awful. That wasn't any good either.
Speaker 3:
[85:21] You can't keep.
Speaker 1:
[85:26] I'm going to be like, you just got to find it's like, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch. Like that. It's like always out of breath. Like the bitch don't give you an example.
Speaker 2:
[85:37] I'm giving you an example. You're no better than I am.
Speaker 1:
[85:39] I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 2:
[85:41] I'm being Jesse. You're being power plex.
Speaker 3:
[85:43] OK.
Speaker 2:
[85:44] Can we talk about an actually good show?
Speaker 1:
[85:45] I'm sweating so much.
Speaker 3:
[85:47] I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:
[85:47] I'm crying and I almost threw up. Like I had like your colossal con moment where I got like such a hot flash from like, oh, I might throw up on myself.
Speaker 2:
[85:56] Oh, I was literally just fucking pale, pale, stark white. Can we talk about an actually good show?
Speaker 1:
[86:02] Finally, eight shows.
Speaker 2:
[86:03] Eight shows. Can we talk about two good shows?
Speaker 1:
[86:05] Witch hat.
Speaker 2:
[86:06] Witch hat, a motherfucking telly. Bang, bang, bang. Shout out. Shout out my dog, Coco. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
Speaker 3:
[86:14] I love this.
Speaker 2:
[86:16] I love this show so god damn much. There is one complaint I have about the show. We know previously how I said my favorite character is the pink haired one. I can't understand a fucking word she's saying. If I'm not looking at, I feel like I'm deaf. If I'm not looking at her lips while she's talking, if she's faced away from the camera, not a fucking word. She's like, Coco, I need the... It sounds like a mix of Indian and Scottish. I don't know what the fuck the act. Also, everybody in the show is just doing some. They said, hey, make something up. They go to the store. They go to the wand store guy.
Speaker 1:
[86:52] I have no fucking idea what he's saying. There's one bit where he goes, Coco, you say...
Speaker 3:
[86:58] What?
Speaker 2:
[86:59] He's like, oh, so this is your apprentice here. And then his apprentice is heavily Scottish.
Speaker 1:
[87:06] He's also Scottish.
Speaker 2:
[87:07] Yeah, they're all Scotch adjacent.
Speaker 1:
[87:10] Yeah, I apparently the reason everyone has like a different accent than Coco is to make her feel more out of place.
Speaker 2:
[87:17] Gotcha.
Speaker 1:
[87:18] Yeah, and more like isolated. And I do it's it is cool that it's not just British for everyone. Like I do like that you it's weirdly British and Scottish. And those are the two.
Speaker 2:
[87:31] The blue one is straight out of a Ghibli film.
Speaker 1:
[87:33] She's my favorite character, maybe of the year.
Speaker 2:
[87:36] I completely agree. 100%. I every time she every time she speaks, I go, oh, like a literal like a literal audible. I go, I like it's like her voice is a warm blanket. But does she not sound like she belongs in a Ghibli film? Like the way that she whispers all of her lines, she sounds like Sophie talking. Sophie talking to Calcifer or something.
Speaker 1:
[87:54] She's more like a Winnie the Pooh. Yes. Where she's like, because someone will be like, wow, the city shore is big. And she's like, it makes me sleepy.
Speaker 2:
[88:05] Yeah, literally exactly. She had a line this episode about being sleepy. And I was like, I bet you are. I bet you're the sleepiest little guy of all time.
Speaker 1:
[88:14] God, I love like the bit in episode two. I was like rethinking of when you brought this up, where like the the pink haired girl is like, I'll eat. I'm just I'm just feeling a little glum. And she's like, seconds and like goes. And I'm like, you Winnie the Pooh ass little girl.
Speaker 2:
[88:31] I love it. It's Christopher Robin and Winnie the Pooh. Yeah, everyone's Christopher Robin. She's winning. Honestly, no, she is Eeyore. That's what she is.
Speaker 1:
[88:38] She is a mix of like Eeyore and Pooh, where like she has the idiocy. And then the she's a mix between Eeyore and. Oh, man. Oh, no. This would have killed if I got it instantly. Oh, oh, let me look it up.
Speaker 2:
[88:57] And I'm at the Tiger one.
Speaker 1:
[89:01] The the the the the the pig one. What's its name?
Speaker 2:
[89:05] No, the pig one. Wait, does the pig one have a bad name, too?
Speaker 1:
[89:09] You can say Tigger in 2020.
Speaker 2:
[89:14] I just I don't like relax. I in the same way I'm saying I'll go. I don't want to accidentally throw that word into a sentence and be like, hmm, I only got the last couple of syllables of that one.
Speaker 1:
[89:31] Oh, please, this I'm fucking this. I'm butchering it.
Speaker 2:
[89:35] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[89:36] Oh, oh, what is your name?
Speaker 2:
[89:40] I'm not kidding. The what?
Speaker 1:
[89:43] She'll mix between Eeyore and Thermite. From Rainbow Six Siege. When she breaches the fuck out of that wall.
Speaker 2:
[89:53] That was fucking shape charges. She was like, I got it. And it was sick as fuck.
Speaker 1:
[89:59] Dude, I got being like fucking, you know, crashing out at Coco, which is reasonable. I get we're all under a lot of stress.
Speaker 2:
[90:08] I my exact note was like, I get that Coco is who put us here in the situation. But I was like watching her be bullied is like watching my gore of my favorite comfort character. Like I like I was like, I get it. I'd be pissed at her too in the situation. I'd probably be no better than I got. But I was like, man, this has made me sad.
Speaker 1:
[90:26] I was like, I was like, I get it. Believe me, I do. We don't got to start bringing up people's crystallized moms.
Speaker 2:
[90:32] I was like, and your mama, your mama so hard, dude.
Speaker 1:
[90:36] Good. Real good. Um, she but when she's like, well, there's no time to redraw it. Dog, you were like six lines in.
Speaker 2:
[90:45] And that was insane. Also, there's no pressing timeline. What's the dragon is no idea there. They're there. And she's like, I give up. She was like, that was a one of one masterpiece. It'll never that spell is only can be drawn once in your life.
Speaker 1:
[90:57] Yeah. Just move to the left and do it again. I mean, what do it over?
Speaker 2:
[91:00] Meanwhile, the blue ones like breach breach of wall. Yeah, it's just like, I know blue ones like contact contact contact. No, she opened it to open the door. That's the thermite line, dude. Yeah, she was fucking awesome. Yeah, just climbed through it. This episode was stressful. This episode was stressful.
Speaker 1:
[91:18] You like the dragon?
Speaker 2:
[91:18] They got sent to Mykonos.
Speaker 1:
[91:20] Mykonos.
Speaker 2:
[91:21] Santorini.
Speaker 1:
[91:22] Why do I know that?
Speaker 2:
[91:23] That's a real place. It's just Greek islands that are like all the buildings are limestone washed.
Speaker 1:
[91:27] I will say, what do you think about the dragon showing up and all the like? There are a lot of moments of genuine horror.
Speaker 2:
[91:34] Yeah, 100%. And then it was like everyone maintain eye contact and slowly back up. I thought this episode did a really good job and not only like applying the pressure, but also like really building that, like, oh man, that scene where the pink one was like, why did I have to be brought in doll? And then she sees Coco and she cuts herself off. I was like, dude, that like to me, in the same way that we talk about like Ganao, that Ganao moment where he's like talking to that guy even though he died, like I, in that immediate moment was like, oh, I've been in Coco's shoes. Like, you know that moment where like you feel like, oh, I fucked everyone over kind of thing?
Speaker 1:
[92:12] Yeah, when Cosette was like, Danny, when we play volleyball.
Speaker 2:
[92:16] We're like, please, I just, this is my first time. I'm wearing really long shorts.
Speaker 1:
[92:20] I was like, please, it's my first time being a witch.
Speaker 2:
[92:22] Yeah. And it's like, it's like, you're like, and then you have no rebutt because you know, you fucked up so bad. Like I felt cold sweat going down my back and I was like, oh, people are trying to be nice. The people are trying to be nicer, even though they're pissed at her. And I was like, oh, that's even worse. Cause there's something like, there's something almost like nice about like a go or agate being like, hey, a got, that's what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[92:45] Nevermind. Don't try to say it like-
Speaker 2:
[92:47] This is why I didn't say the T word. This is why I get nervous.
Speaker 1:
[92:54] I don't remember. I was like, I saw just like a millisecond montage of like my birth and my career. I'm like, it's a got.
Speaker 2:
[93:05] Please separate me. I think cosplay is hard.
Speaker 1:
[93:09] I heard a millisecond of like, it's something unpredictable. It's a got, please.
Speaker 2:
[93:14] Anyway, there's a reason I've been saying ago. So I anyways, I was like, oh, this is like a clear fuck up.
Speaker 1:
[93:23] And there's something nice about you.
Speaker 2:
[93:25] There's something nice about you being like, fuck, like, fuck you. Fuck this. I'm pissed. And it's like, I can deal with that. But then being like, I still like I have to be considerate of their feelings, but I'm angry at them. And like, those are the characters that are supposed to be on her side. Oh, it was just like it was so subtle, but it was so weighty, dude. I loved it. It was such a good sequence.
Speaker 1:
[93:44] Dude, that's great. I love I have to say a go now because now I'm stressed. I got a got because it's like a god. That's like where I thought her name was a god. And I was like, oh, yeah, I get having a comp.
Speaker 2:
[93:58] I would also have a complex. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[94:00] But I got like, I like her being like, hey, we're witches. We'll get out of this with our heads. Like that was really cool. She had a vicious line being like, now we can finally loot, get out of this dead end or leave this dead end behind. And then she stops and she's like, I meant the current situation, but other interpretations wouldn't be invalid. Dude, I was like, whoa.
Speaker 2:
[94:25] I was like, that's like some shit you say. We're like, wow, I cooked them. And then at night, you're like, that was the meanest thing I've ever done. Like you ever like you ever said some shit to somebody where you're like, I in the moment, you're like, God is ass. And then like an hour later, you're like, yeah, what the fuck was that about?
Speaker 1:
[94:40] That was crazy. You want to see what the dragon looks like in the manga? Yeah, like way cooler. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2:
[94:46] So I thought I thought the dragon was cool in this. I mean, it was like very much an anime. Holy shit, that's fucking sick as hell. Wow.
Speaker 1:
[94:53] I thought the dragon was white in the manga because like, I love how contrasty everything is. There's like no shadows. Everything is either like unbelievably dark or pure white.
Speaker 2:
[95:07] This is just stupendously. Even like I'm looking at all of I'm looking at Coco and I got and all the other ones and like their cloaks are like flowing. You can see like the dress under their cloak is like fat like like flashing in the wind kind of thing. Like it's like it's like everything about it is like conveying movement. Their hair is flowing alongside with their cloak, the tassels on their hat. This is just and even like in this moment, Coco's up front separated like this is just transcendently drawn. My God, it's crazy. It's nuts, which I tell you is anime also looks gorgeous.
Speaker 1:
[95:44] Well, that's the thing. It's not that the dragon looks bad in the anime. Yeah, but it's lacking like the sauce of this, which is just that like stark contrast.
Speaker 2:
[95:55] Yes, of the black and white. Yeah, like it's all shading and or white.
Speaker 1:
[95:59] Yeah, the dragon, for those who haven't seen it or like aren't looking it up, the dragon is either like pure white and anything that's shaded is just like stark black. And it's so menacing. And you just don't have that in the anime. In the anime, it's just like dragon. Yeah, it's the fact that it's a dragon against a bunch of little girls. That's like the shocking bit, not like, oh, is this berserk?
Speaker 2:
[96:22] Yeah, this is like this thing's gonna like stomp out one of these girls here. Like, I hope it's not the one I like.
Speaker 1:
[96:27] I almost wish, because they're obviously in like Agenjutsu right now.
Speaker 2:
[96:31] I feel like they might have been teleported somewhere.
Speaker 1:
[96:34] Or, you know, or that. Regardless, they're not where they were.
Speaker 2:
[96:38] The dew clock that she saw, like a magical sigil that was like tied to the one that she did in the book up on like some spiral staircase.
Speaker 1:
[96:45] I didn't know if it was tied. I was more just like, fuck me, that's how complicated they get. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:
[96:50] Yeah, I think I think it was like supposed to show her that like, oh, that's the connection to the book. Like that was to tie that idea.
Speaker 1:
[96:56] Got you. But now I they're obviously not in their world or something. They're either in their mind or in a different world. Yeah, I wish this world was black and white for that.
Speaker 2:
[97:08] That'd be cool.
Speaker 1:
[97:08] You know, or just something, some like Nippon Sengoku ass thing where they get real weird and artsy with it.
Speaker 2:
[97:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[97:15] But yeah, this was cool.
Speaker 2:
[97:16] Did you also did you also clock that a woman fucked a tree?
Speaker 1:
[97:20] Do you get that? I love spoiler for my reaction.
Speaker 2:
[97:23] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[97:23] But like, they're like there once was a tree that fell in love with a woman. And I'm like, oh, the tree fell in love with her, did it?
Speaker 2:
[97:31] Who told you that?
Speaker 1:
[97:32] The woman.
Speaker 2:
[97:32] Yeah, like the only one who can talk in the scenario is like, and it grew limbs so it'd be able to hold her. And then it was like, and then they had a bunch of tree babies. I was like, my God, this woman just this woman just found a branch she liked rubbing against.
Speaker 1:
[97:45] It's so it's also interesting that, like, the tree is like the man in that situation.
Speaker 2:
[97:53] I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[97:54] Because you think it'd be like a man fell in love with a tree. Because I guess he's gross.
Speaker 2:
[97:58] There could be holes in trees.
Speaker 1:
[98:00] Well, exactly. I guess it's grosser. It's a little more charming. It's like a woman who falls in love with a tree.
Speaker 2:
[98:04] Fair. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a man just found a wooden hole. He wasn't.
Speaker 1:
[98:07] He didn't hate, you know, like, but like. It makes more sense magically if, like, a dude fucks this tree and then the tree has the baby. Yeah, the trees like saplings, gross, are now magical, you know, as opposed to a woman fucks a man tree.
Speaker 2:
[98:26] And then does she have trees and then squirts out trees that she plants elsewhere?
Speaker 1:
[98:31] That's my confusion. Like, where are the new tree babies coming from? The woman, I guess.
Speaker 2:
[98:37] And then from the adjacent, from like the tree babies, then make more tree babies.
Speaker 1:
[98:43] Well, for sure, I understand where like the generations come from after.
Speaker 2:
[98:46] But like she was the Virgin Mary for trees.
Speaker 1:
[98:49] I'd love it afterwards.
Speaker 2:
[98:51] The Virgin Maple.
Speaker 1:
[98:52] Let's go. Yeah, he's back.
Speaker 2:
[98:54] I'm on it, baby.
Speaker 1:
[98:55] Um, I'd love if after, uh, Kefri's just like, and that's how the Silverwing tree became. By the way, stay away from the forest.
Speaker 2:
[99:08] Oh, you guys don't don't talk to a tree until you're at least 18. All right. There's a reason that all the forest around our Atelier have been raised.
Speaker 1:
[99:15] Yeah, I'd love if his accent was like, and that's how we have a magical link. By the way, stay away from our trees.
Speaker 2:
[99:22] By the way, the trees, they're touchy. They're real Italian. I don't know. I don't know. The woman was Italian.
Speaker 3:
[99:28] It's bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[99:29] Yeah, that is just such a funny story.
Speaker 2:
[99:31] I thought the description of how they get the ink out of like, they're like, oh, this kills the tree. It's poisonous to the tree, so we have to use it. I was like, that's kind of cool. It's like the blood is poisonous to the tree, so they draw it out, that kind of thing. I thought that was neat. I also, what did I, there was one other thing. I think it was mostly just the fact that they were like, in the beginning, oh, in the beginning of the episode, like, Keefree is doing the explanation about like, oh, these four, the terrestrial quadrant or whatever, like, the four most important sigils. You know what I'm talking about? The first minute and a half. That is the most female gaze, like, way to start. It's just, it's a man whispering in British.
Speaker 3:
[100:10] He's just like, there's four important sigils.
Speaker 2:
[100:15] And the most important is water.
Speaker 1:
[100:18] Yeah, and he does it very, like, beautifully, where he's not like, this one makes you splash, people. He's like, water, life, yeah, passion. But I like that was further proof to me that this is way cooler than with Storia. We read our argument from last week, where it's not just like the water sigil. It does water.
Speaker 2:
[100:39] Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
Speaker 3:
[100:40] It wet.
Speaker 1:
[100:41] It was. That's with Storia. Storia is like, I'm the fire mage.
Speaker 2:
[100:46] Fire time.
Speaker 3:
[100:47] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[100:48] I'm the wind mage. Goblins for some reason.
Speaker 1:
[100:52] Like, this is like the earth sigil. It doesn't just make you throw a rock. It's movement. It's stagnation. It's maybe decay. You know, like I like that punching through a wall. I like that they get abstract with it. And it's not just like, oh, I mean, that's my interpretation of it. Maybe I'm wrong. But I like the idea that it's like, whoa, how did you? How did you freeze time? And it's like I didn't freeze time. The earth sigil is, you know, because the earth rotates, earth is movement. And because things decay into the earth, I can like make time pass or whatever. Like I like the idea that they are elements in name alone. But what they represent is also time.
Speaker 2:
[101:36] Kind of like Fire Force. So kind of like so what you're describing is Fire Force here. The power system you hate if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1:
[101:43] So ideally better. Yeah, ideally not just like my firepower is that I'm a bug.
Speaker 2:
[101:48] Yeah, my firepower is magnets, question mark. And you're like, OK, cool.
Speaker 1:
[101:52] Firepower is water.
Speaker 3:
[101:54] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[101:55] Is it lava? No, it's just warm water. Gotcha.
Speaker 3:
[101:58] All right.
Speaker 2:
[101:58] We're talking about the best episode of the fucking best episode of the season.
Speaker 1:
[102:02] Dude, you didn't even get to it, which buns, which burns my buns.
Speaker 2:
[102:07] Oh, because the second episode of Marriage Toxin is better than the first episode of Marriage Toxin.
Speaker 1:
[102:11] Oh, yeah. Man, what's Marriage Toxin about?
Speaker 2:
[102:15] For those who don't know, Marriage Toxin is it's a Pothcary diaries is what it is. It's a Pothcary diaries, but it's a BL, and that is it. No, it is a, tell me I'm wrong, A. I didn't do a thing. You were doing your.
Speaker 1:
[102:29] I couldn't be more stagnant.
Speaker 2:
[102:30] Oh, that's not at all true. Marriage Toxin is about a poison expert, a poison, he's a poison assassin basically, and he is, he's like, he was raised to be a poison guy, so he's not exactly great with people, and his entire thing is that he only kills really bad people because we have to root for the serial killer.
Speaker 1:
[102:52] Yeah, he has to be Dexter.
Speaker 2:
[102:53] Yeah, so he only kills the really, really bad people because he has to be able to sleep at night, and his grandmother, who is the head of the poison clan, is trying to push him into becoming the next head of the clan, but to do that, he has to have a child because the poison clan needs to live on. But on account of the fact that his grandmother only taught him poison and not how to schmooze a woman.
Speaker 1:
[103:14] Yeah, not social skills.
Speaker 2:
[103:16] He has no ability to schmooze women whatsoever. Enter the, but also, he's got a lesbian sister who he lives with and she's not going to have a baby on account of that's not how it works.
Speaker 1:
[103:29] And so she is like, well, she doesn't want one because she has a girlfriend who she wants to stay with. But if he doesn't get a wife and a child, their grandmother is going to make her get married to somebody.
Speaker 2:
[103:44] So that their legacy, which they already tried with him. They tried to hook him up with a member of the side family and like he it didn't work out. They never really like dive into why it didn't work out. And we get this really awesome moment in episode one, where he is out on an assassination job. And it's not even an assassination job. They have a person tied to a chair and they're like, Poisoner. It's like, yeah, they all have guns. They all have it. We want this woman dead. And it's like, OK, cool. So there's one of the women tortured to death, basically. And so immediately he's like, here's this toxin. It's going to hurt a lot. And then I'll kill you once everybody eats their fill, basically.
Speaker 1:
[104:21] And then it doesn't hurt that much.
Speaker 2:
[104:23] And then she like spits out a little bit of blood and she's like, I can die now.
Speaker 1:
[104:27] Yeah, he really hypes it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[104:30] And which is wild because he is objectively really good at his job. Like he creates a cleaning concoction that cuts a car in half. And meanwhile, the poison that's supposed to tear her from limb to limb makes her cough up a little bit of blood.
Speaker 1:
[104:45] It's a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:
[104:46] Yeah. And so he gets a call mid torturing a woman to death. And that's our main character, ladies and gentlemen. And it's his sister being like, I'm going to leave my girlfriend. I have to fucking become the next head of the poison clan. And he's like, no, I support all love. He's like, you live with your girlfriend. It's incredibly hard to find a connection. I can't find a connection with anybody. I'm not going to make you leave this chance at love that you have, so that you have to go marry somebody and have a kid. That's not what I want at all. It's actually this kind of very beautiful moment about him acknowledging not only the validity of her love and the love and the connection she has with her girlfriend, rare for Japan, but also him being like, listen, it's less difficult for me, a straight man, to go about having a child than you, who obviously is at the very least bisexual, but is most likely a lesbian because of the undertones here being like, oh, she's bearing this massive weight, which would be marrying a man and having a child and carrying a child when she doesn't want to. And there's this beautiful moment of him being like, I'm going to marry this person. And this person just so happens to be the woman he's poisoning.
Speaker 1:
[105:51] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[105:52] But that person can't have a kid because that person is a boy. Ring the bell. Ring the bell. We are Femboys. Femboy. Femboy. Femboy. And that femboy is a marriage swindler, which means they're gender ambiguous on account of the fact that sometimes they're swindling men, sometimes they're swindling women. So they're either a hot man, a hot twink, or a hot lady. And boy, oh boy, they're getting attention from every which way. So we got a gay anime. Gay anime. Gay anime. And this anime, gay as hell because, yes, is this man, is this poison expert? Maybe he wants a woman. Maybe.
Speaker 1:
[106:29] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[106:30] Maybe he wants a woman. So far. But also, but also.
Speaker 1:
[106:34] Who knows? We'll see. He needs a baby, actually.
Speaker 2:
[106:37] I want to adopt one. I don't care.
Speaker 1:
[106:39] Well, no, that's not how I want to see.
Speaker 2:
[106:41] I want to see that. I want to see him pound some bussy.
Speaker 1:
[106:43] No, he definitely needs a woman because they're in episode two. The beginning of episode two, they're like, by the way, if you were like all these clans, there's like five major clans. Poison's one of them.
Speaker 2:
[106:58] Yeah. Needle's one of them. Bug's one of them.
Speaker 1:
[107:00] Bug's, I think Sharks is one of them.
Speaker 2:
[107:02] Good. It's like Hoppers.
Speaker 1:
[107:04] And Af... Yes.
Speaker 2:
[107:06] Because like, because here's my thing. You can get bugs on the land and kill somebody with bugs. What are you doing with Sharks?
Speaker 1:
[107:12] Well, so, yeah, no, any water-based thing, you're always handicapped. But it really casually drops, like, over time, from working with whatever their clan's affinity is, they've developed superpowers.
Speaker 2:
[107:29] OK.
Speaker 1:
[107:29] So all of these people have superpowers.
Speaker 2:
[107:31] So that explains why he dodged bullets.
Speaker 1:
[107:32] So it needs to be like a blood exchange. Like he needs to have a biological child.
Speaker 2:
[107:39] OK.
Speaker 1:
[107:39] So that child gets better powers than him and so on and so forth forever. That's why Bugsman is Bugsman.
Speaker 2:
[107:47] I go Bugsman is Bugsman is fuck.
Speaker 1:
[107:50] But yeah, it was so sick to have just like a really casual and open lesbian character.
Speaker 2:
[107:57] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[107:58] Where there's no dancing around it at all. And then also, yeah, his like maybe trans or gender fluid, whatever, like companion is just like, no, I'm a boy, but like I am a girl most of the time to swindle men.
Speaker 2:
[108:14] Yeah, 100 percent. Like men are easier to swindle, and also there's more of them kind of thing. So you're telling me you don't you don't think there's.
Speaker 1:
[108:23] That he's gay, you know, I mean, that'd be an interesting follow up. That'd be a really cool conflict to throw in because then he's like, like if he fails with all these women and then he finds gay love and he's like, well, fuck. Now it's like one of us still needs a kid.
Speaker 2:
[108:41] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[108:42] And so like, you know, now he's his love is conflicting with his sisters.
Speaker 2:
[108:46] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[108:47] And then I guess it becomes like maybe we have to fight our own family because our grandmother is going to kill us or something, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2:
[108:53] Like I can absolutely just based off the first episode. Like obviously there's a sequence where the the the marriage swindler is going to buy some dude who's chewing on lead ball. Is that like a lead ball fucking boba? He's just chomping down. I was like, this guy has a day left until he loses his goddamn mind. This is the angriest man known to like. And then he's like, I should have been a cleaner because like there's like a guy like he the guy who wants the girl poisoned to death is a cleaner, which means like they take care of dead bodies. I'm assuming like it's John Wake or something. Anyways, and then he cuts the car in half. There's a sequence where he cuts the car in half using like hydrofluoric acid on fucking steroids, which is real cool. Oh, it was awesome. It's animated dumb well. Like the action sequences are just fucking gorgeous in this effectively romance anime.
Speaker 1:
[109:43] Episode two has such a cool character, like an unbelievably well animated and very sick. Like, I don't know. I won't say anything about it.
Speaker 2:
[109:54] I'm going to go downstairs and watch it after this after we finish this episode while we eat our pizza. Yeah, I'm so excited. I cannot wait.
Speaker 1:
[110:00] It's so cool. I love this show. I'm like, I'm so glad you're as high on it as I am.
Speaker 2:
[110:06] No, I'm it's my favorite thing I've watched. It's my favorite first episode I've watched all year.
Speaker 1:
[110:17] Not a lot of competition. No sentence I was going to say I was going to say, including season twos.
Speaker 2:
[110:23] Oh, yeah, 100 percent.
Speaker 1:
[110:24] Oh, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[110:25] Well, I would say I liked it more than the first episode of JJK. I liked it more than the first episode of Sentence to be a Hero. I could see myself getting weird about this show. This has Subukibisco potential for me.
Speaker 1:
[110:36] It's like I was saying before where it's like, usually with this, even when I love a show, it still registers as work to watch these. Like, if I have to do anything, I'm going to bitch about it. And usually it's like if I'm a week behind on something, I'm like, oh, I got to watch two episodes of JJK now. Even if I love both episodes, this was like the first time in maybe the whole of the podcast that I watched episode one, eagerly dove into two and then when two ended, I was like, oh, I could eat the rest of this season right now.
Speaker 2:
[111:13] I don't think I've felt this way about an anime since I was like 19 and I would sit down and I'd watch all 12 episodes of like, oh, 12 episode anime immediately. Like, it's that feeling where I'm like, oh, like, this is a terrible example because it's a bad anime. But like I sat down and I watched all of No Game No Life. Right now, I was like, I was like 19 and I was working a night job and I just was like, oh my, oh my god, like my non fully developed brain was like, this is the greatest thing ever. This brings me back to the days of like stumbling upon like a guilty crown and being like, holy shit, this 12 to 24 episode anime is the greatest thing I've ever watched in my entire life and I'm going to be weird about it for the rest of my time.
Speaker 1:
[111:54] Yeah, it's just like bingeable as hell. The characters are really fun. It's well animated to like a weird degree.
Speaker 2:
[112:01] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[112:02] And like I said, episode 2 is just better.
Speaker 2:
[112:05] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[112:06] So that's exciting. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[112:07] This is like people are not going to find it this good now that we've like glazed it harder than like I think our fandom, I think our contingent of people could be very much weird about about marriage talks and because I I feel like they enjoy the things that we enjoy except for Tokidoki. That was that was the sole exception there.
Speaker 1:
[112:24] That was just for us.
Speaker 2:
[112:25] We understood what we were doing there. But yeah, man, this show is fucking awesome. I asked what combo of poisons turns you into noob cybot because he just turns into black smoke and then he's on the ceiling. They just full on noob cybot here.
Speaker 1:
[112:39] I guess he's like a witcher, like it made him fast or whatever.
Speaker 2:
[112:41] 100%. I really do think this is going to turn out being a BL. And I'm I'm very excited about that. I think because like, well, one, it's got all because like, there's also there's so much gender identity to be explored and the concept of those two people being in love, because obviously he's big, he's masculine, he kills people. And then we have this character who's like, like gender fluid. Sometimes they're a girl, sometimes they're a boy kind of thing. And it's like, oh, hey, it's kind of like, and this is what I think actually Gen V did really well, because Gen V is a character who like, their ability is that they switch between genders. And so like, it's played by two different, like a male actor and a female actor. And they're dating Marie, who's the main character of the story. And it's like, Marie starts dating this character, and like prefers when the character is a man, then eventually doesn't care kind of thing. There's like, that arc, I think, can be done really well within the confines of this. And then, yeah, there's a whole thing of like, oh, you need to reproduce. And then there's like, oh, well, then we'll be talking like Japan's pressure from the older generation, for the younger generation to produce. And like the aging, the aging population trying to hold on to that semblance of power. There's so many cool things they can do. Fuck, I mean, it's so goddamn weird about this show. I love it. I love it so much. 10 out of 10, the first episode.
Speaker 1:
[113:50] Pretty great. Yeah, pretty good stuff.
Speaker 2:
[113:52] I'm so happy I watched it.
Speaker 1:
[113:53] Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2:
[113:54] I'm so happy I didn't miss it.
Speaker 1:
[113:55] Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 2:
[113:56] Should we do our game?
Speaker 1:
[113:58] Sure.
Speaker 2:
[113:59] Cool. Should we order pizza first?
Speaker 1:
[114:01] Yes. Nick, today we're going to guess the anime by the poorly Google translated plot that our boy, the Batman has put together for us.
Speaker 2:
[114:09] Okay, that will be pretty easy to do concerning the fact that last time we just had to look for key words. I was like, oh, sorcery. And then like four words later would be fight. Okay, I think that's probably JJK.
Speaker 1:
[114:21] Yeah, it is a big keyword search. All right. The first one, they say you can get stronger by killing people, but sex isn't the weakest thing in the world. I already know what this is. Joe is shown starving in a cave. I don't know what this is.
Speaker 2:
[114:36] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[114:37] Jenny kills Blaze in prison and becomes the baddest person in the world. Tickets can be used for one journey only. Now you want to know this amazing secret.
Speaker 2:
[114:49] I feel like last time we did this, I had a pretty good idea of every single one immediately. I have no idea what this could be.
Speaker 1:
[114:59] I thought this was Hell's Paradise.
Speaker 2:
[115:01] Could this be just arcs or is it only anime? Because we're talking about mistranslated plots.
Speaker 1:
[115:09] This is the synopsis of popular anime.
Speaker 2:
[115:11] It's the synopsis of popular anime. Because I was going to say this could be the Culling Games. Right, you get stronger by killing people. The ticket only gets you one way. Like, you can only use it on one journey. So, once you go in, you can't go out. But like, Ginny, I feel like could be like...
Speaker 1:
[115:29] Joe is shown starving in a cave.
Speaker 2:
[115:33] I'm really focusing on the thing you... They say you can get stronger by killing people.
Speaker 1:
[115:37] Yeah, that and also who gets killed in prison and becomes the baddest person in the world.
Speaker 3:
[115:43] The baddest person in the world.
Speaker 1:
[115:46] The best something, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:
[115:48] The best something, but sex isn't the weakest thing in the world.
Speaker 1:
[115:52] It's gotta be Hell's Paradise. It's the only thing I can think of because of sex.
Speaker 2:
[115:56] But why would Hell's Paradise... What in Hell's Paradise says you get stronger by killing people?
Speaker 1:
[116:02] Because of fucking Tenzin, or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2:
[116:07] Because they take people's Tao, or the Tan, or they turn people into Tan.
Speaker 1:
[116:11] The Tan, and he starts off in prison. And he can't be killed.
Speaker 2:
[116:16] And also he can light himself on fire, right?
Speaker 1:
[116:19] He lights himself on fire.
Speaker 2:
[116:21] But his name is Benny Maru, so I guess that's where he could possibly get a B name, like Blaze, because Blaze is capitalized.
Speaker 1:
[116:26] His name is not Benny Maru.
Speaker 2:
[116:28] His name is Gabby Maru. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[116:30] Ginny.
Speaker 2:
[116:31] Ginny kills Blaze.
Speaker 1:
[116:32] Ginny, Gabby Maru, Gabby. I'm locking in Hell's Paradise. You have 10 seconds to lock something in.
Speaker 2:
[116:39] I guess I'll also go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go JJK. I'll go JJK because I think this might be the Culling Games.
Speaker 1:
[116:45] Okay, well, then I'm going to say Dead Man Wonderland. Okay, I'm joking, but that kind of crossed my mind. It's solo leveling.
Speaker 2:
[116:51] Solo leveling? They say you can get, I mean, I guess you get stronger by killing people, but sex isn't the weakest thing in the world.
Speaker 1:
[116:59] They say whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but that's not the case for the world's weakest hunter, Sung Jinwoo. Is Sung sex?
Speaker 2:
[117:08] Maybe?
Speaker 1:
[117:10] After being brutally slaughtered by monsters in a high-ranking dungeon, Jinwoo came back with the system, a program only he could see, that's leveling him up in every way. This is so fucking hard.
Speaker 2:
[117:22] It's not even remotely close.
Speaker 1:
[117:24] That's really tough. Okay, the next one. Alan Yeager, I know this.
Speaker 2:
[117:30] Attack on Titan, immediately.
Speaker 1:
[117:31] Alan Yeager's house was destroyed and his mother died of leprosy. All right, people live in the Great Wall of China to avoid trouble. Nicky and Amy swear. Iran wants to help its people. You are wrong that political leaders are bad people.
Speaker 2:
[117:51] Is there a code being sent to us in here, Batman?
Speaker 1:
[117:54] Let's explore your relationship with depression through your depression story.
Speaker 2:
[117:59] Yeah, it's obviously attack on time.
Speaker 1:
[118:00] Hold on, though. Iran wants to help its people. Leads me to believe it's full metal alchemist.
Speaker 2:
[118:08] It's full metal alchemist.
Speaker 1:
[118:09] It's like the Ishvalan War.
Speaker 2:
[118:11] Or the Ishvalan Amestria. How do you get Alan Yeager?
Speaker 1:
[118:15] I know Alan Yeager. I wonder is.
Speaker 2:
[118:17] And also his mom dies of leprosy. Actually, do we ever hear how Ed and Al's mom actually died?
Speaker 1:
[118:25] She gets transmuted to fuck.
Speaker 2:
[118:28] I know she gets transmuted, but that's after she only gets transmuted because she dies.
Speaker 1:
[118:32] Oh, you're right. I think it is leprosy.
Speaker 2:
[118:34] Yeah, canonically is less. I'm going to attack on Titan.
Speaker 1:
[118:37] Um, OK. I'll go full metal alchemist.
Speaker 2:
[118:40] The bold choice.
Speaker 3:
[118:42] And it's.
Speaker 2:
[118:45] Talk about overthinking it.
Speaker 1:
[118:47] Ladies and gentlemen, boy, did I. Alan Yeager. Humanity survives behind massive walls against man eating titans. We all know what this is about.
Speaker 2:
[118:54] Yeah. Do you want to read it like a colossal Titan destroys his home and kills his mother. Aaron Yeager joins the scout regimen with his friends Mikasa and Armin, only to discover he can transform into a Titan himself. As Aaron fights for humanity survival, he uncovers dark conspiracies, political intrigue, and the terrifying origin of the Titans.
Speaker 1:
[119:13] They must think Aaron is Iran.
Speaker 2:
[119:15] I was going to say, but also Aaron was also, because Aaron's mentioned more than once.
Speaker 1:
[119:21] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[119:21] Because it's Aaron Yeager, and then Aaron can also turn into, he fights as Aaron fights for humanity survival.
Speaker 1:
[119:28] Iran wants to help its people, Aaron fights for humanity survival.
Speaker 2:
[119:32] Very good. Very topical. Google Translate.
Speaker 1:
[119:35] When Aya Casino arrived at the hospital, the doctors were shocked. Are blacks not ashamed? Don't make me read this. But isn't that great? Famous thief, Sommerson Farthing, is killed by his secret assistant. A boy decided to help his mother ride a bike. Why do children like to play in the? In the dark, what do in case of death?
Speaker 2:
[120:04] What are the Blacks? Not ashamed is crazy, Google Translate.
Speaker 1:
[120:11] When Aya Casino arrived at the hospital, sounds like porn. The doctors were shocked. Are Blacks not ashamed?
Speaker 2:
[120:20] But isn't that great? Famous thief, Sommerson Farthing, is killed by his secret assistant? That's gotta be assassin. Somebody's killed by an assassin. A boy decides to help his mother ride a bike.
Speaker 1:
[120:34] I think it's there. It's gotta be there. A boy decides to help his mother ride a bike. Like, I think that's the closest to a hint.
Speaker 2:
[120:41] That's the closest to a real sentence we're gonna get.
Speaker 1:
[120:44] I thought it was gonna be Anya Forger. Aya Casino.
Speaker 2:
[120:51] Arrives at the hospital?
Speaker 1:
[120:53] The orphanage?
Speaker 2:
[120:55] The orphanage. The doctors were shocked.
Speaker 1:
[120:58] Our black snot.
Speaker 2:
[120:59] That's where I'm... That's really what's hanging me up, Dan, because I don't know what that could be. Famous thief. That could be like either your... I mean, yeah, spy family's not a bad... Oh, and then a child decides to help his mother ride a bike. That could be your... Why do children like to play in the dark? What to do in the case of death? I'm going to do spy family, because that's the only legitimate thing I have here.
Speaker 1:
[121:22] All right. It is...
Speaker 2:
[121:24] Hoshino Kou.
Speaker 1:
[121:27] Dr. Gourou Iam... Whatever his name is, is shocked when a pregnant star, I. Hoshino, appears at his countryside clinic. After secretly delivering I's baby, Dr. Gourou is murdered by her obsessive stalker. Reborn as I's new child, Aquamarine Hoshino, he embarks on a quest to help his mother rise to the top. What can a child do about the dark underbelly of the entertainment industry? And what if disaster strikes?
Speaker 2:
[122:00] What do we get? Aren't the blacks ashamed from that?
Speaker 1:
[122:02] I'm really wondering.
Speaker 2:
[122:05] It would be, appears at his countryside clinic, I think is where we should be possibly getting that. Or something to do with pregnant star? I do not know.
Speaker 1:
[122:15] I don't know. I never would have guessed it. That would never pops into my head ever.
Speaker 2:
[122:19] No, that's very fair. I didn't even finish season 3 of Ocean of Coast. So they started doing Siscon stuff, and that's what they lost to me.
Speaker 1:
[122:27] Statham has been a fan since the beginning. He won three matches. After three years of special forces, the enemy continues to destroy. Robot pilot Sam Jones joins League of Legends.
Speaker 2:
[122:38] Let's go.
Speaker 1:
[122:39] That's big go. But it's a big animal. John Sams is committed to being a trusted advisor in leading a talented team. But there is another agent of Satan.
Speaker 2:
[122:49] I would reckon that League of Legends is an agent of Satan. There's a big emphasis on three here, and three's a word I feel like that doesn't get lost. Like he won three matches. After three years of special forces, the enemy continues to destroy.
Speaker 1:
[123:04] Is it Kaiju No. 8? I know we lose three, but...
Speaker 2:
[123:08] But like, Kafka's 30. Kafka's 30. I could also see like Kaiju being like somehow Satan and or League of Legends. Statham, Kafka, how do you get to state them? Has been a big fan since the beginning. He's won three matches.
Speaker 1:
[123:27] Sam Jones and John Sams.
Speaker 2:
[123:30] So you think something like Sam comes up a bunch or something?
Speaker 1:
[123:33] Yeah, like...
Speaker 2:
[123:37] I think it's Kaiju No. 8. I think this is going to be like, oh, Kafka is like in his 30s.
Speaker 1:
[123:40] You keep stealing mine.
Speaker 2:
[123:42] Well, I was also thinking Kafka. I immediately was thinking Kaiju No. 8.
Speaker 1:
[123:45] All right.
Speaker 2:
[123:46] But also Robot Pilot?
Speaker 1:
[123:48] Robot Pilot joins League of Legends. Who's? Yeah, who's like someone who joins? Maybe. Who's like? Yeah, it's got to be like a mech thing. Like Lelouch.
Speaker 2:
[124:03] Code Geass? Yeah. That's what looses me there. It's like, oh, he's been a fan since the beginning. I'm like, oh, because Kafka is a fan of he's a fan of the Kaiju Corp. Like the like Japan Special Defense Forces forever.
Speaker 1:
[124:17] Is it my hero? Shigaraki is Statham has been a fan since the beginning. He won three matches.
Speaker 2:
[124:24] But why would Shigaraki be in the description of like MHA as a story? You know?
Speaker 1:
[124:28] Yeah. All right. What? Kaiju?
Speaker 2:
[124:31] Kaiju are 86.
Speaker 1:
[124:33] All right. It is One Punch Man.
Speaker 2:
[124:35] One Punch Man.
Speaker 1:
[124:37] Saitama started out being a hero just for fun. After three years of special training, he becomes so powerful that he can defeat opponents with a single punch. Now, alongside Genos, his faithful cyborg disciple, Saitama is ready to begin his official duties as a professional hero working with the Hero Association. However, the frequency of monster appearances is surging and increasingly.
Speaker 2:
[125:01] This is tough.
Speaker 1:
[125:03] This is so hard. This is run through Google Translate like 50 times too many.
Speaker 2:
[125:07] Yeah, we've lost all context here. Even though the country is peaceful, Senator is looking for an excuse to kill Schumer. This man is my friend. Artists and politicians should go to college.
Speaker 1:
[125:19] OK, people in appeal to your local mayor.
Speaker 2:
[125:22] Yeah, this is this is like a fucking town hall meeting with the most discoherent of the faculty member you have. But people can register their children when he died. He was homeless and no one knew who he was. He saw his child and mother on television.
Speaker 1:
[125:37] Dude, I'm so discouraged. These are so hard.
Speaker 2:
[125:42] Even though the country is peaceful, senators are looking for an excuse to kill Schumer. This man is my friend. Artists and politicians should go to college, but people can register their children.
Speaker 1:
[125:53] What do we think, chat?
Speaker 2:
[125:57] I don't I don't I don't know. I don't I don't. Was this was this Google translated from Japanese six times?
Speaker 1:
[126:06] That's a good guess.
Speaker 2:
[126:08] What?
Speaker 1:
[126:08] Panda Mom says Sanda.
Speaker 2:
[126:11] Even though this country is peaceful, senators are looking for an excuse to kill Santa.
Speaker 1:
[126:16] That's good. This man is my friend.
Speaker 2:
[126:19] Artists and politicians should go to college.
Speaker 1:
[126:22] Throw that out, but people can register their children.
Speaker 2:
[126:25] I mean, there's going to be a focus on children.
Speaker 1:
[126:27] Yes. When he died, he was homeless and no one knew who he was.
Speaker 2:
[126:31] He was going to be focused on, like, no one knows who Santa is.
Speaker 1:
[126:34] He saw his child and mother on TV. They're not all winners.
Speaker 2:
[126:40] They can't all be contextual winners.
Speaker 1:
[126:42] All right, let's see. Spy family. These are impossible.
Speaker 2:
[126:46] We got to be done. We got to be done with this.
Speaker 1:
[126:48] Panda. Panda. You got it right.
Speaker 2:
[126:51] So far as I care, Panda got it right.
Speaker 1:
[126:55] World peace is at stake and secret agent Twilight must undergo his most difficult mission yet, pretend to be a family man. Posing as a lovable husband and father, he'll infiltrate an elite school to get close to a high profile politician. He has the perfect cover, except his wife's a deadly assassin and neither knows each one's identity. But someone does, his adopted daughter, who's a telepath.
Speaker 2:
[127:19] He saw his child and mother on television, his last sentence that we got. How the fucking?
Speaker 1:
[127:26] This is impossible.
Speaker 2:
[127:26] How would that even begin to happen here?
Speaker 1:
[127:29] Let us know in the comments how many of these you got correct. Yeah. We got Attack on Titan.
Speaker 2:
[127:32] We got Attack on Titan.
Speaker 1:
[127:33] But only because of a Jaeger.
Speaker 2:
[127:34] Because of Alan Jaeger. That's it.
Speaker 1:
[127:36] All right.
Speaker 2:
[127:36] That brings us to our favorite part of the podcast here, Love Letters, ladies and gentlemen, where we pull our live audience to ask us a question that we answer here, live on the podcast. So, if you want tons of extra content or to watch a podcast to our two days early over here on the Patreon or to ask us questions that we answer here live on the podcast, you can be a member of the Patreon for $4.99 a month. So, I'm going to slide over to the TV and see what questions we got. Blast Boy asks, if you could block your co-host from talking about or watching one IP for the rest of time, what would it be and why?
Speaker 1:
[128:13] You said you have one.
Speaker 2:
[128:14] I have one for you 100%. And we're trying to do maximum damage. We're trying to ruin each other's careers here. For me, for you, it's Epic the Musical. I'm blocking you from talking about Epic the Musical. I'm blocking you from the Danny Wars. I'm blocking you from being like, oh, oh, oh, the voice actor of Sclombonia sent me a package. And you're just going to be everyone's like, Danny, Danny, they're making another one. They're making the they're making the Ithaca Trials or whatever. Danny, there's more Greeks. Put the sandals back on Danny. And you won't be able to do it. You want to you want to get in your slutty little tunic. You want to talk about, oh, I love the song where they go, There's no gay tension on this boat. And you won't be able to do it. You'll be ruined, Daniel.
Speaker 1:
[129:00] I'd have you killed in such a public manner that there'd no no lawyer on Earth would take my keys.
Speaker 2:
[129:06] In Nippon Senkoku, my ass, you'd be like, draw and quarter him in less than 20 seconds.
Speaker 1:
[129:11] I'd have you killed.
Speaker 2:
[129:12] And then four people dressed as some character for like fucking the Odyssey would just pull me apart with their hands.
Speaker 1:
[129:18] You would somehow like make that decree or make that video where you're like, Danny can no longer indulge in epic. And then Dorothy would receive your limbs in multiple different boxes.
Speaker 2:
[129:29] You'd hold on to my head.
Speaker 1:
[129:30] Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:
[129:31] Like a thrag flying away with my skull.
Speaker 1:
[129:33] The idea, and then I'd kill myself promptly because the idea of Ilium coming out and I don't get to engage in it whatsoever would just eat me alive.
Speaker 2:
[129:44] I know for a fact, you have that county of a calendar, and they like circle this Ilium comes out, and it's a bunch of big old dollar signs next to it.
Speaker 1:
[129:51] I would wither away like a mother Gothel at the end of Tangled. I would just turn into sand.
Speaker 2:
[129:56] Yeah, you would just see other people reacting to it, not as good as you could, and you'd be like, it would be so bad for you.
Speaker 1:
[130:03] I was going to be nice and be like, you know what, I would say invincible, so that you never have to endure a single further death baiting.
Speaker 2:
[130:13] Oh my God, dude, if I didn't have to watch invincible anymore, it would be great, because specifically, I know exactly what would happen. You would keep watching invincible, and then you'd come up to me and you'd be like, Nick, they did it again, and then we'd both just bitch about it for twice. You'd be like, oh, and then they'd be like, you can't, you won't believe it. They knocked off Oliver's other arm, and I'll just be like, son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:
[130:36] I'd, if I'm being mean with maximum damage, because I don't think Naruto matters. I think you've watched it enough. And Boruto doesn't matter. It'd have to be Hunter Hunter. It has to be Hunter Hunter, and then they'd have to finish it.
Speaker 2:
[130:52] You'd, oh my god, dude. Or if like, it was like, you were like, yeah, you struck the decree. I can't fucking read Hunter Hunter again. And then it's like, next day, Tagashi, first recipient of Miracle Back Cure. I would blow my brain out outside of his house.
Speaker 1:
[131:11] First recipient of Miracle Back Cure. And then like three days later, it's like publishes the first universally beloved manga ending.
Speaker 2:
[131:20] Literally like the gold standard of manga endings has been created. I literally, I would, I would commit horror carry outs. I would find his address.
Speaker 1:
[131:29] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[131:30] Oh my God, that'd be so bad. Especially even with the way it's coming out, like 10 chapters are coming out in a couple of months. And he's already like he tweeted the other day that his wife is being really encouraging of him right now. Things are so optimistic in the Hunter Hunter. Oh my God. Oh, that's such a good answer. I'd have to scrub off my tattoos because people would be like, what are your tattoos? And I'm like, I can't answer.
Speaker 1:
[131:51] You have to burn them off. Like you're a fucking betrayer and sons of anarchy.
Speaker 2:
[131:56] Wow. Good. Good. Show me your WrestleMania underwear. Fuck.
Speaker 1:
[132:00] I didn't bring it.
Speaker 2:
[132:01] You son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:
[132:01] My mom also stank. I'll send it to him right now. My mom got me WrestleMania underwear and it's like the worst of my underwear.
Speaker 2:
[132:08] Shout out to Karen as moms do. But that is all we got this week. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for checking in for another episode of Otakus Anonymous. We love you guys so much and we will catch you on the next one.
Speaker 1:
[132:19] Adios. Shmebo.