transcript
Speaker 1:
[00:01] Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
Speaker 2:
[00:03] The Joe Rogan Experience.
Speaker 3:
[00:06] Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Speaker 4:
[00:13] That wouldn't have brought a smile to my face.
Speaker 5:
[00:15] Yeah, all the weird shit that someone's given me, that's at the top. Well, I got this. This is a wooly mammoth tooth that my friend John gave me. A wooly mammoth tooth with a wooly mammoth carved into it.
Speaker 4:
[00:27] That's craziness.
Speaker 5:
[00:28] That's crazy, right? That tooth's probably 10,000 years old. No bullshit.
Speaker 4:
[00:33] But the balls to carve into it too.
Speaker 5:
[00:35] I know, I would never. I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4:
[00:37] That's gorgeous.
Speaker 5:
[00:38] The guy did it, he nailed it. I mean, it's a beautiful little elephant there.
Speaker 4:
[00:42] That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5:
[00:43] But I would never carve into one of these things.
Speaker 4:
[00:46] It almost looks like an alligator gar from the side, like a little alligator jaw.
Speaker 5:
[00:50] Right. It doesn't look like it. The thing about these teeth, though, is they find so many of them that they don't think of them as precious. So you're allowed to do stuff with them. Like, you could buy a knife with a woolly mammoth handle. Like, this is a piece of woolly mammoth that they make for a gun. So you could put that on a 1911. It's a handle made out of woolly mammoth teeth.
Speaker 4:
[01:16] You just have an extra handle? Is this this handle?
Speaker 3:
[01:20] It's the pistol handle.
Speaker 5:
[01:21] It's the pistol handle. And this is a piece.
Speaker 4:
[01:25] It would make a good handle for this one too, like the front one for fucking, like if you're holding a sick ass thing.
Speaker 5:
[01:31] Sick ass thing, yeah. Yeah, I definitely could do that too. I mean, they basically could make anything they want out of it. They make folding knives out of it. Jamie has a folding knife out of it.
Speaker 4:
[01:40] Can you make piano keys out of it?
Speaker 5:
[01:42] Oh yeah, you definitely could.
Speaker 4:
[01:43] The woolly mammoth. The woolly mammoth woolitzer.
Speaker 5:
[01:47] You could, right? You definitely could. If you could use ivory, you could use woolly mammoth ivory because they use it in pool queues. This is a tooth too.
Speaker 4:
[01:56] I used to have my own pool queue. Unscrewed it. I used to come to the fucking pool hall with unscrew the fucking thing and get nuts with it. Having a pool queue is, you're a different level of human being when you're walking around with that. You're not playing games.
Speaker 5:
[02:12] You're not playing games.
Speaker 4:
[02:12] You're there to play games, you're not playing.
Speaker 5:
[02:15] It's a very serious thing. It's a cool thing. You show up with your own queue, like in The Hustler. The guy shows up with a leather satchel.
Speaker 4:
[02:22] The coolest guy's ever. Come on. That satchel alone.
Speaker 5:
[02:25] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[02:26] It's male accessories.
Speaker 5:
[02:28] Right.
Speaker 4:
[02:28] I love a good male accessory.
Speaker 5:
[02:30] Right.
Speaker 3:
[02:30] Like, we don't have a lot.
Speaker 4:
[02:31] Well, you have a knife.
Speaker 5:
[02:33] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[02:33] Knife always looks good on the side. A gun.
Speaker 5:
[02:35] A watch.
Speaker 4:
[02:36] Watch.
Speaker 5:
[02:37] Watch is a good male accessory. It's like the most acceptable male jewelry. Don't you think? Watches.
Speaker 4:
[02:43] I don't want no one with a nose ring. I don't want to pull up with this one.
Speaker 5:
[02:47] Or like, I mean, you could pull off gold chains and diamonds and shit because you're a rapper.
Speaker 4:
[02:53] No, no, I'm not. No one knows me as that. You know me as a blue collar guy. I don't even look good with jewelry on. I look silly.
Speaker 5:
[03:00] I do, too. I feel stupid. I never wear a chain. I feel stupid.
Speaker 4:
[03:04] I don't own a chain. I had a chain back in the day. It had a little miniature Tasmanian devil piece.
Speaker 5:
[03:11] That was the tattoo everybody in high school got.
Speaker 4:
[03:13] Tas was the first.
Speaker 3:
[03:13] I want one now.
Speaker 5:
[03:15] Tas with boxing gloves.
Speaker 4:
[03:16] For sure. Boxing gloves with the child's name.
Speaker 5:
[03:19] I have that on my head. My friend Kenny got that. It was his first tattoo when we were in high school. Tasmanian devil with a boxing glove. We were all like, sick, because we were like 16.
Speaker 4:
[03:31] The Tas was still to this day, we wanted like that and barbed wire. If you had barbed wire and taz.
Speaker 5:
[03:38] Dudes went so far with barbed wire, they got barbed wire around their ankle, which is-
Speaker 4:
[03:42] That's unacceptable.
Speaker 5:
[03:43] A big mistake.
Speaker 4:
[03:44] It was Pamela Anderson with the barbed wire. I remember that one.
Speaker 5:
[03:47] She had it on, didn't she have it on her ankle? Or she had it on her arm?
Speaker 4:
[03:49] On the arm, in that movie.
Speaker 5:
[03:51] A lot of dudes had it on the arm. Fairly okay. It's kind of a bad decision, but it's okay.
Speaker 3:
[03:56] But on the ankle?
Speaker 4:
[03:58] Any type of ankle accessory, jewelry, other than like a surveillance, it really, for me, it doesn't work. My ankle is way too bulky and it's a thick-ass ankle. Right, right, right. It doesn't hold jewelry well.
Speaker 5:
[04:14] No ankle does. No male ankle holds jewelry well. I mean, I don't believe in it. Listen, I'm not telling you what to do. If you're a guy who likes beads on your ankle, feel free.
Speaker 4:
[04:25] If I go to Club Med and come back with the braids and the ankle twist, you know, then it's like we're on vacation.
Speaker 5:
[04:33] Even on vacation, ankle jewelry is odd for a man.
Speaker 4:
[04:36] But you know, people start acting different when they go on vacation. I have friends that wear different outfits. Shorts get shorter, shirts get tighter.
Speaker 5:
[04:43] Right.
Speaker 4:
[04:45] Pieces of clothing just remove themselves.
Speaker 5:
[04:48] Right.
Speaker 4:
[04:48] It's like wearing, I need to wear the Velcro pants to just rip them off.
Speaker 5:
[04:52] Sometimes when you're on vacation, you just don't want to be yourself for a week.
Speaker 4:
[04:55] I feel that.
Speaker 5:
[04:56] Just relax. Can I just cut this fucking tie off for me?
Speaker 4:
[05:01] Yeah, get that ass. I also don't want an agenda. Right. I don't want to have like, we're doing this, we're doing that. I just want to, vacation is not to have a schedule.
Speaker 5:
[05:10] I think the schedule should be around eating.
Speaker 4:
[05:12] Oh.
Speaker 5:
[05:13] That's what I believe. That's my feeling is like, cool, ancient things. Like if you're in a cool place like Athens, you know, you definitely got to go seek some cool, ancient shit. But get the good grub.
Speaker 4:
[05:25] Speaking my language.
Speaker 5:
[05:26] Now find the spots.
Speaker 4:
[05:28] I was eating some rare scampi right in front of the Pantheon. You know, like there was a beautiful restaurant known for scampi right there.
Speaker 5:
[05:35] Wow.
Speaker 4:
[05:36] And it was like.
Speaker 5:
[05:37] That's phenomenal.
Speaker 4:
[05:38] And I was just recently in Mexico City at Teotihuacan.
Speaker 5:
[05:42] Ooh.
Speaker 4:
[05:43] Ooh, my God.
Speaker 5:
[05:44] I want to go there. I was in Mexico City only once for the UFC, but it was in and out. It was one day, you know, two days.
Speaker 4:
[05:50] I want to live there.
Speaker 5:
[05:51] Mexico City is a dope spot, man.
Speaker 4:
[05:53] I don't go places.
Speaker 3:
[05:54] But there's a lot of New York.
Speaker 5:
[05:56] It's kind of like a Mexican New York, but bigger.
Speaker 4:
[05:59] It is.
Speaker 3:
[05:59] It's bigger, bigger than New York.
Speaker 4:
[06:02] There's like 10 million people that live in the place they told us not to go to. They told you, listen, I was like, what the fuck is this massive area? He's like, you don't go there. But 10 million people live there.
Speaker 5:
[06:12] What is the population of Mexico City?
Speaker 4:
[06:16] And I was getting that good lung capacity.
Speaker 5:
[06:19] Right, if you're working out up there, it's like, I think that's really high above sea level.
Speaker 4:
[06:24] It is 10,000.
Speaker 5:
[06:25] Is it 10? Mexico City's 10? Yeah. What an advantage you would have if you lived up there. And then you go down to sea level, you could fuck everybody up. Your cardio would be off the charts.
Speaker 4:
[06:34] I couldn't believe myself.
Speaker 5:
[06:35] Yeah, that's real, man.
Speaker 4:
[06:36] I was just doing normal things. I wasn't even working out.
Speaker 5:
[06:38] Right, exactly. You just feel like you're more blooded because you do. Whoa, low to mid 20 million people, depending on how you define its boundaries. Wow.
Speaker 4:
[06:49] It's also unknown. There's no census that I agree.
Speaker 5:
[06:52] Right.
Speaker 4:
[06:52] It's also very, it's lots of shanty situations as well.
Speaker 5:
[06:57] Oh, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 6:
[06:58] The shooting that happened yesterday?
Speaker 5:
[07:00] Where?
Speaker 6:
[07:00] At Tia Tiwakon? No.
Speaker 5:
[07:02] What?
Speaker 6:
[07:02] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[07:03] A shooting.
Speaker 5:
[07:04] Oh, I did see something like a, it's just a crazy person, right?
Speaker 6:
[07:08] Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[07:09] Yeah. Tiwakon, a popular tourist archaeological site outside of Mexico City.
Speaker 4:
[07:13] That's where you're not allowed to go. That's the Sun Temple.
Speaker 5:
[07:16] You're not allowed to walk there?
Speaker 4:
[07:17] You're not allowed to walk there, no.
Speaker 5:
[07:18] Like what they're doing?
Speaker 4:
[07:19] Just to that area and then you can't go up.
Speaker 5:
[07:22] And so this guy just started shooting people?
Speaker 6:
[07:24] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[07:24] Oh, wait, you can't go there. He's fucking, he's elevated. Yeah, that's the Sun Temple.
Speaker 6:
[07:28] He's there with the gun and there's a bunch of people like laying down on the ground that were like hostages or something. Like, he's like shooting right at them.
Speaker 4:
[07:36] This is crazy.
Speaker 6:
[07:37] I don't know.
Speaker 4:
[07:38] Why is he just standing there?
Speaker 5:
[07:39] He said something to them, too. I saw something on Google this morning. He said something to them?
Speaker 4:
[07:44] That motherfucker was hopping on one leg. Did you see the hopping?
Speaker 3:
[07:48] Oh, fuck.
Speaker 5:
[07:49] Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6:
[07:51] Yeah, I didn't see that.
Speaker 5:
[07:52] Just going to go check out some cool buildings and someone shoots your fucking Achilles tendon off?
Speaker 4:
[07:57] Bro, that's one of the worst injuries you could probably sustain is an Achilles injury.
Speaker 3:
[08:02] Especially with a gunshot.
Speaker 5:
[08:03] Yeah. How many people died?
Speaker 6:
[08:06] I think one. So, seven people were shot. One fatally shot.
Speaker 5:
[08:14] The story of that area, that place is so insane. I went down this long rabbit hole because I had read something that the Aztecs didn't build that and that they found it there and they called it the place where gods were born. So, then I went into this deep dive on the Aztec people and whoever was there before them. It's a total unknown. There's so much about that area, like the Olmecs, they don't, who the fuck were they? They don't know. They just got these giant stone heads that look like they're either Polynesian or African. They're fucking huge heads with a helmet on and there's a bunch of them and no one knows who made it. No one knows what language they spoke. It's crazy.
Speaker 4:
[08:55] It's truly unbelievable.
Speaker 5:
[08:57] This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. When you talk to someone really passionate about what they do, you can tell. Their face lights up. They get more animated. It even seems like they get more confident. In my experience, those are some of the best conversations. You probably want the same type of people for your role. But it's hard to tell if someone's truly excited about the job from their resume alone, unless you use ZipRecruiter. See what I'm talking about for free at ziprecruiter.com/rogan. If you're a long-time listener, you know how quickly ZipRecruiter works to find qualified candidates for your role. Now though, they're going the extra mile with a new feature that shows you qualified candidates who also are interested in your role. It's an even faster way to make sure that you're talking to the right people. Find candidates who really want your job on ZipRecruiter. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at ziprecruiter.com/rogan. That's ziprecruiter.com/rogan. Meet your match at ZipRecruiter. This episode is brought to you by Traeger Grills. If you enjoy food, and I mean really good food, Traeger is a game changer. This isn't just a grill. It's the ultimate way to cook outdoors, delivering unbeatable wood-fired flavor, thanks to the all-natural hardwood pellets that fuel everything you grill, smoke or bake. That's it. Just wood and fire and flavor. What's truly wild is how easy it is. Just set the temp, load the grill, and let Traeger handle the rest. Grill steak, smoke ribs, even baked pizza, all on one grill. If you're into fire, flavor, and doing things right, check out Traeger Grills.
Speaker 4:
[10:54] I know there's one native language that... I worked in kitchens my whole life, so they would always joke with me that they were speaking Totonaka. And Totonaka is definitely like a tribe from down there, and it's these mythical, curing people, like these... the healers. And we happen to actually... My wife knows a woman from the lineage of that family. It's all just crazy shit. Regardless of that, just the sheer fact of those buildings, I saw with my own eyes, that's not it. There's more underneath. That's not just... It's all surface area shit. Right, right, right. That stuff goes... It runs deep.
Speaker 3:
[11:32] There's like cities on top of cities on top.
Speaker 5:
[11:35] They build them on old ones.
Speaker 4:
[11:37] I mean, it's just like you tile the floor. You just leave that bullshit. You just tile right over it.
Speaker 5:
[11:41] Well, even when I was in Italy, we were in Ravello, and there's this beautiful church up there. You go for a little walk up the hill. There's a beautiful church, old church, from the 1800s, but it's built on top of a church that's like 1,000 years old, and there's a glass floor. You could see through to the bottom with the original ruins.
Speaker 4:
[12:00] The same thing in Mexico City.
Speaker 5:
[12:01] They do that everywhere.
Speaker 4:
[12:02] Well, there was these people making their pilgrimage where they crawl on the floor from fucking hundreds of miles away in Jesus' name just to get to the church.
Speaker 5:
[12:11] Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:
[12:11] You have to say, I don't know what that is. Some act of like, some humbling act where they crawl from hundreds of miles away to the church.
Speaker 5:
[12:21] Holy shit.
Speaker 4:
[12:21] And everyone come, millions of people come to the church. It was fucking crazy.
Speaker 6:
[12:26] That would be a religious experience. I don't want you to know about that.
Speaker 4:
[12:29] It truly was.
Speaker 3:
[12:29] Charlie Kirk Groundhog.
Speaker 4:
[12:30] I was just in there, we caught sermon, and I was getting fucking chills. Just from the way they spoke and echoed, the way that the acoustics in this room was.
Speaker 3:
[12:40] Wow.
Speaker 4:
[12:41] It was meant to give you chills. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 5:
[12:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:
[12:44] They know what they're doing.
Speaker 6:
[12:44] I don't want to go down the full Charlie Kirk rabbit hole, but I saw this video yesterday where he visited Jerusalem, and they were taking him to this place underground where they mapped it out and used archaeology to find out that, I believe, this spot here where they're at, Jesus, I think, preached or something. It's all, they found it underground and they just built the city on top of it, like you're just saying.
Speaker 4:
[13:06] There's all these phenomena.
Speaker 5:
[13:07] This, but that is a common thing. Yeah, it's a common thing.
Speaker 4:
[13:11] Where they find this is where he was.
Speaker 5:
[13:13] No, no, I mean, it's a common thing where they take old sites and they just build the new sites on top of them. It's a really common thing.
Speaker 4:
[13:20] Well, it's kind of, it's fucked up, but it's also like paying homage.
Speaker 5:
[13:25] I guess, kind of.
Speaker 4:
[13:26] Like keeping the same vibe, like there's...
Speaker 5:
[13:29] Well, it's just like rebuilding a house.
Speaker 4:
[13:31] Yeah, you want to keep some bones. Yeah, keep some good bones. It's like there's good bones there.
Speaker 5:
[13:35] Right. I don't think people probably had a really good sense of what history would mean 2,000 years later back then. You know what I mean? Like when they were doing all this shit.
Speaker 4:
[13:45] They were busy. They left all kinds of tchotchkes, man.
Speaker 5:
[13:48] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[13:48] They left so many tchotchkes, it's crazy. It's true. I feel stupid. Like, what am I... Like, I have to do the same thing with my time. I have to constantly be... I have to leave cool shit.
Speaker 5:
[13:59] Because they left cool shit.
Speaker 4:
[14:00] Just because I feel it in me as well. Like, I get it. I get it. But when I went to the museum down there, you see all these things. It's like ornaments. Like, just literal tchotchkes. Things you would see ornamentally placed by your grandmother on top of things or like on top of doily. Just for decorative purposes. But also everyday things and just... Everything meant something. Everything meant something to them and everything was done with intention. I don't think that this was all accidental for them. They knew who they were praising. All the little figurines for the fertile women were these women with big, humongous hips and asses and big breasts and stuff like that. These are the nurturing women. Then they showed the people who were supposed to be witch doctors. They fucking look like witch doctors, all crazy, three skulls holding, crazy fucking things. They determined my view or these views of who people are. You understand? Status-wise and species-wise, this is a barber, this is a this. And your idea of what that person looks like, a nurturing woman, is known to be a voluptuous woman. Their ideas were there already. They built all their little chachkies and their little statuettes that they represent. These women, very voluptuous.
Speaker 5:
[15:29] It would have been interesting to see, to hear their version of the world. You know what I mean? Like, I wonder what they knew about the rest of the world. I wonder how much they knew about like Europe and Asia, and how much they knew about Africa. Did they know anything about all that stuff? Like when they were existing, like whoever built, how do you say it? T-O-T-W-K-O-N?
Speaker 4:
[15:50] Yeah, T-O-T-W-K-O-N.
Speaker 5:
[15:51] Whoever built that, like how much did they know about the rest of the world? That's what's interesting, because we don't really know. We assume that they were all isolated, but more and more as time goes on, they keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier seafaring people. Like I think they've pushed people in boats back to 60,000 years now. Let's see if that's true. Put that in Perplexity. What is the oldest known use of boats?
Speaker 6:
[16:20] Also speaking of that, they think they found Noah's Ark.
Speaker 4:
[16:23] As long as there's been water, there's probably been something to float on it.
Speaker 6:
[16:25] Noah's Ark scans. We brought that up before.
Speaker 5:
[16:28] Oh, Mount Ararat in Turkey?
Speaker 6:
[16:29] But yeah, it's been going around Twitter the last couple of days. I think they did some new scans and found some stuff underneath it.
Speaker 5:
[16:35] Oh, shit. I want to see that. But what was the other question? The other question is the oldest boat. What do you guess? Take a guess.
Speaker 4:
[16:43] Fucking, it's beyond my thought. It's like I don't even know a number. A number doesn't come to mind. Like, as long as there's been water, what the fuck does that mean? I don't even know.
Speaker 5:
[16:53] I wonder how long it took an early man to figure out the trees float. And if you could figure out a tool, once they figured out tools, they must have started making stuff.
Speaker 4:
[17:04] But when we see all these ancient, really like laser diagnostic fucking situations, they knew already.
Speaker 5:
[17:12] Yeah, that's different. That's different, like Egypt, right? Archaic humans are crossing substantial sea channels long before species Homo sapiens appeared on the record. Whoa. So implying intentional crossings as far back as roughly 450,000 years ago.
Speaker 4:
[17:31] When you think about it.
Speaker 5:
[17:33] What the fuck?
Speaker 4:
[17:34] Fucking polar bears and seals, they jump up on a little broken piece of ice and they float.
Speaker 5:
[17:39] That's crazy.
Speaker 4:
[17:40] That's a boat.
Speaker 5:
[17:42] Yeah. That's what the polar bears are doing. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4:
[17:44] They put their hand in the water as a rudder and just go this way. Let's go that way.
Speaker 5:
[17:48] Yeah. They know what they're doing. They know how to tip them over.
Speaker 4:
[17:50] I know exactly.
Speaker 5:
[17:50] To get the seals to pop off.
Speaker 4:
[17:53] It's years of evolutionary knowledge.
Speaker 5:
[17:55] Yeah. 450,000 years is bananas though. I thought it was like 60.
Speaker 6:
[18:00] Well, further up, it said somewhere between 60 and 130,000, but this article here says could be even more before that.
Speaker 4:
[18:07] This is all fun to think about.
Speaker 5:
[18:08] What was that most recent discovery of a human skull that backdates human beings, not necessarily Homo sapiens, but versions of humans back to a million years? Was it not Homo naledi?
Speaker 6:
[18:24] That was a skull they had, but they just knew testing or something.
Speaker 5:
[18:28] Right, and they said it's a million years old. So I don't think it's us, but I think the question is it coexisted with us.
Speaker 6:
[18:40] Yeah, it's about a million years old, so it says.
Speaker 5:
[18:42] So that might mean we're a million years old. Want to hear about some shit that I just read the other day that's nuts? You know how the thought is that there's Neanderthals and that human beings bred with Neanderthals and that's how the Neanderthal population went out. There's at least this one researcher who has a different opinion, and he was using genetics to point this out. He said that he believed that humans may have created Neanderthals, so that humans bred with an even older human species, and Neanderthal is the offspring of the humans, Homo sapiens, and whatever this older thing is.
Speaker 4:
[19:26] It didn't create a superhuman though.
Speaker 5:
[19:28] Well, Neanderthals are kind of a superhuman.
Speaker 4:
[19:30] But mentally, they're known to be a little bit like Neanderthal, no?
Speaker 5:
[19:36] That's a statement that people say.
Speaker 4:
[19:38] I'd like to know, is Neanderthal really an intelligence, or is it dumb?
Speaker 5:
[19:44] Yeah, we don't really know.
Speaker 4:
[19:45] I'm a fucking idiot, like, I must be this asshole.
Speaker 5:
[19:47] They had bigger brains than us though, which is weird. But that might have been to have better musculature, better coordination. They were way stronger than us.
Speaker 4:
[19:56] Huge.
Speaker 5:
[19:57] They weren't big. They were like 5'7, 5'8. They're like my height.
Speaker 4:
[20:00] But the bone structure, right?
Speaker 5:
[20:02] Right. They're built completely different than us. They would tear us apart. They would tear us apart the way like a chimpanzee would tear you apart. They just rip your arms off. Like they're insanely strong. And their bones are much denser than ours. But it says the gap between genetics and archaeology leaves us with an unclear picture of where the Neanderthals originated. Calvinist Michael Marshall details a surprising new hypothesis that suggests they may have come from us. So this was the thing that I had read.
Speaker 6:
[20:30] Yeah, it's fine though.
Speaker 5:
[20:31] Oh, you have to buy a, what is this, new scientist? We should probably get a subscription for them anyway. We use them a lot. They got good shit on there. So, I think the idea is that they're, you know, they keep finding these other versions of humans. Like, they found this thing called the Dennis Ovin. And then they found this other one. What do they call the big headed people?
Speaker 4:
[20:52] Where are they finding these? Like, what zone?
Speaker 5:
[20:56] China is one of them. They found the big headed guy they found in China. You know, they find them all over the world, man. They find these bones that are just weird. You got to think of how few human bones are going to make it from people that are alive right now. So few of us are ever going to become fossils. So we're putting together a version of the history that's completely incomplete as far as the evidence is concerned. There's just not enough evidence of bones. If we had, like look, if everybody who ever lived died and left their bones and then future people could study their bones forever, boy, we would know so much more. We would know so much more. There'd be bones everywhere, but we would know so much more about how things work.
Speaker 4:
[21:39] Fringe did something with them. Fucking catacombs, put them on the ground, build something, make it decorative.
Speaker 5:
[21:44] This episode is brought to you by Visible. Let's be honest. Wireless can feel like a world of traps, expensive bills, tacked on fees and promises that just don't hold up, you start to feel stuck. Don't fall for the trap. Escape to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. Get unlimited data and hotspot powered by Verizon. One line for just $25 a month, taxes and fees included. Get great coverage and a reliable connection with Visible. Plus, for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just $20 a month for one year using code FRESHSTART. Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at visible.com. Terms apply, limited time offers, subject to change. See visible.com for plan, features, and network management details. Noah's Ark Mystery deepens as a researcher blows lid on strange rock formation in Turkey. So this rock formation is on Mount Ararat. That's what it looks like?
Speaker 6:
[22:54] This thing here in the middle. Yeah, and they said it's the same.
Speaker 5:
[22:56] Wait a minute. That's not AI?
Speaker 6:
[22:57] Nope.
Speaker 4:
[22:58] Is this all LIDAR?
Speaker 6:
[23:00] So this is a picture.
Speaker 5:
[23:01] Bro, that's crazy. That's the actual image?
Speaker 6:
[23:05] I'll show you the other ones they have.
Speaker 5:
[23:06] God, that looks like what somebody would send me in a Facebook group chat.
Speaker 4:
[23:12] Honestly, this shit right here, if it's not AI, if it's AI, it should say it.
Speaker 5:
[23:18] Right. If it's not AI, God, it looks like a boat. So look, I'm not a geologist or someone who's a landscape expert, but that's a very unusual feature. What are the odds that something looks exactly like a boat?
Speaker 6:
[23:32] So then underneath it, they scanned it. And then they're saying that these potentially are hallways or...
Speaker 4:
[23:40] I mean, that's the shape of a boat.
Speaker 5:
[23:41] That's a fucking boat. Oh, so there's structure inside of it?
Speaker 6:
[23:46] Well, the biggest issue is that this is on the side of a mountain. So that's not where the ocean is.
Speaker 5:
[23:53] Bro, the Great Flood.
Speaker 6:
[23:55] It's 6,500 feet above sea level, it says. So if you're gonna go with the story of the flood, then you'd have to say that we don't know exactly when the flood happened, because this would be petrified wood or something. And I read it takes somewhere between thousands and millions of years to get petrified wood. So we'd have to be on the lower end of the thousands because it's probably not millions of years. And then tectonic plates would have had to lift it all the way up here to...
Speaker 5:
[24:22] No, not necessarily. If the flood receded when the water was that high.
Speaker 6:
[24:26] Yeah, if it flooded the entire planet.
Speaker 5:
[24:29] Right, but then the question would be where's all that water?
Speaker 6:
[24:31] Where do you think it could flood the entire planet?
Speaker 4:
[24:32] All kinds of strange phenomena push things towards the surface.
Speaker 5:
[24:36] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[24:36] This could be anything.
Speaker 5:
[24:38] It could be anything, but boy, it looks like the shape of a boat.
Speaker 4:
[24:41] Like if it was down below, the water could definitely push. Like everything could be pushed as long as that's like nestled in there.
Speaker 5:
[24:49] I think a lot of this is just the universe fucking with us. I think it's part of the simulation. Part of the simulation is the universe fucks with us. And the universe shows you some things that shouldn't be real by your version of what is and isn't true.
Speaker 4:
[25:05] AI.
Speaker 5:
[25:06] Well, that's one.
Speaker 4:
[25:07] That's pretty much what the fuck it is. No, that's the explanation of it.
Speaker 5:
[25:11] Yeah, that is. But then there's stuff like this. If this isn't AI, it's almost like the universe is AI. Like, the whole thing is not real. Whoa. So, is that line up with the actual Biblical?
Speaker 6:
[25:23] That's right. This is even five years ago that this picture on the screen was taken. So, I think that they're doing, whether or not they're taking some liberties and what the descriptions are or not, I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[25:35] Boy, it certainly is a weird shape.
Speaker 4:
[25:36] This is Noah's Ark right here, this thing.
Speaker 6:
[25:38] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[25:39] It looks like a fucking riverboat. Well, that's what it was. It looks like we're playing, like we're playing a pinnacle on the riverboat there on that one.
Speaker 5:
[25:46] Well, you had to get all the animals in there, bro.
Speaker 4:
[25:47] That doesn't seem like that would be the one.
Speaker 5:
[25:50] What did you think it looked like?
Speaker 4:
[25:51] I don't know, like some fucking mega yacht.
Speaker 5:
[25:54] I don't know.
Speaker 4:
[25:55] Bunch of hulls, what is the things, the staffs and hulls?
Speaker 5:
[26:01] Listen, I think the story of the flood is a real story because it exists in too many cultures.
Speaker 4:
[26:07] And water is very unexplainable. Water has no enemy.
Speaker 5:
[26:10] And tsunamis, tsunamis fucking happen, dude. And if they happened and you were in that area, you would think it's the end of the world. Because you don't have contact with people in Europe. You don't have contact. So wherever you are is an apocalypse.
Speaker 4:
[26:24] It's the great flood.
Speaker 5:
[26:24] You think it's the whole world's gone.
Speaker 6:
[26:26] I don't know if there's anything specific about the acacia wood, but I remember looking this up last week and it very specifically said acacia wood was used to make the ark.
Speaker 4:
[26:34] Well, I'll tell you this. Acacia honey is fucking unbelievably delicious.
Speaker 5:
[26:37] Well, the reason he's bringing that up is acacia is also rich in DMT.
Speaker 4:
[26:42] No wonder I like it.
Speaker 5:
[26:44] There you go, Doc. These researchers out of Jerusalem think that that's what Moses' burning bush was. So where Moses saw God as a burning bush, that's what they think that means. They were burning the acacia bush.
Speaker 4:
[26:59] He was hitting the Demes.
Speaker 5:
[27:00] He was hitting the Demes. He was hitting the Demes. He probably did talk to God. God probably did have some good messages for humanity in the early days. They were basically just savages, wild fucking creatures with stone tools. Man, we've come a long way. I mean, human beings are still trying to figure it out. Obviously, right, we're in the middle of three fucking wars going on in the world. But we're doing better, I think. Yeah. I think we're doing better. We're doing better in day-to-day stuff. Day-to-day interactions with people are definitely, for the most part, better.
Speaker 4:
[27:37] I mean, I feel like, I just feel like we're at a place where everyone's going to either, they're going to come together or we're going to just fucking totally rip our fucking heads off.
Speaker 5:
[27:47] Right. My fear is that a lot of chaos is going to happen and they're going to use that as an excuse to have AI run everything. And that's where things get really fucking weird. That's where creativity dissolves, freedom dissolves. You become some little biological time card.
Speaker 4:
[28:06] Bro, the other day, I fucking posted a picture of a frog that I AI generated just because I wasn't able to get the frog to do what the fuck I wanted to do in real life. Like I want the frog holding frog popsicles. He was being difficult so I had to fucking use another guy. And everyone was blasting me like, yo, not you, not you. I can't believe you used AI. Like yo, people were fucking flipping out on me.
Speaker 5:
[28:35] So people are upset that you're using.
Speaker 4:
[28:37] I generated a picture of a frog.
Speaker 5:
[28:39] Who is mad at you for this?
Speaker 4:
[28:41] Whoever is on my Instagram. Huh. And my fans and the people who are, you know, just hating on AI. I get the idea of like using it in a, you know, in a conniving way or in a, you know, but it was a picture of a fucking frog. There it is. That's fucking good. And I said that that was going to be my album cover, but then. Why is that bad? They were like, yo, you're taking away opportunities from other artists. Well, let me just clear this up. I wouldn't have hired you no matter what, because I do all my artwork anyway. There was no job to be taken away. So let's just, if that's the argument, you could throw that one out.
Speaker 5:
[29:29] This is just tools.
Speaker 4:
[29:31] It's good old fun.
Speaker 3:
[29:32] Listen, I don't think— This is Photoshop pretty much.
Speaker 5:
[29:34] Yeah. Look, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4:
[29:36] Thank you, man.
Speaker 5:
[29:36] It's very cool looking. But then I did— I get what people are saying.
Speaker 4:
[29:40] I get it, too.
Speaker 5:
[29:41] I get it.
Speaker 4:
[29:41] After it was explained to me by a younger generation of mine.
Speaker 5:
[29:44] I get you should hire artists to make stuff, but do you know how long it takes an artist to make that? Unless the artist is doing exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 4:
[29:51] But I get that, but I wouldn't have hired them in the first place, because I do all the artwork on my own. Everything comes from me.
Speaker 5:
[29:59] So it's not a job loss, no matter what?
Speaker 4:
[30:00] It's not a job loss, no matter what? But I get the idea of it. It's for shits and giggles, you know? Like it's fucking wack that that's what people are worried about.
Speaker 5:
[30:11] I think it's just a bunch of people looking for things to complain about, A. And then there's also like a sentiment in the air, which is that AI is coming for everybody's job. So anytime someone uses AI that could have been used by people, there's a certain percentage of people that are going to kind of rightly be upset. But you're not going to stop it. This is the thing. That fucking, that wave is 2,000 feet high and it's moving 100 miles an hour and you're not going to stop it. You're not going to stop it. This is just what AI is.
Speaker 4:
[30:42] I didn't realize the severity. I mean, I guess I do now, but.
Speaker 5:
[30:47] Bro, it's alive.
Speaker 4:
[30:48] It's fucked. It's fucked for sure.
Speaker 5:
[30:50] These things are alive.
Speaker 4:
[30:51] And they're going to be able to do everything for you. I don't usually use any of those things. I'm pretty, you know, Neanderthal when it comes to this type of thing.
Speaker 5:
[30:58] Yeah. So the thing about the Neanderthals is they don't know if they were dumb. So they used to think that they were really stupid. And then they realized that they probably had language and they probably had tools and they probably had a sophisticated society. And they buried their young. And maybe we just assume because they're brutish and strong that they were stupid. But their brains are bigger than our brains. They might not have been dumb. They have big eyeballs too.
Speaker 4:
[31:26] Looks are deceiving. You think that, you know, some schlub and here I come, fucking mister. Oh my god. I did it this morning.
Speaker 5:
[31:36] You didn't swing that motherfucker, dude. It's very impressive. It's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 4:
[31:40] I got up to like 88 pounds on that bitch, which is ridiculous. That's a lot.
Speaker 5:
[31:45] I started doing this new kettlebell exercise. You do like an eight in the air with a kettlebell. We start it like this, and you go all the way up and down like that.
Speaker 4:
[31:54] Oh, yeah. That's crazy.
Speaker 5:
[31:55] Like bending it and over around your head. Whoo!
Speaker 4:
[31:59] Serious deal.
Speaker 5:
[32:00] Oh, my God. Your core, you don't realize how weak that shit is in those weird movements until you try something like that.
Speaker 4:
[32:07] That's why the kettlebells are the best things. Kettlebells, the clubs, the mace.
Speaker 5:
[32:13] Awkward stuff.
Speaker 4:
[32:14] Awkward. I love all that stuff, all the sandbag work. I'm still doing that every day. Since I was here last, I know it doesn't see me, but I've lost like 20 pounds.
Speaker 5:
[32:22] Congratulations.
Speaker 4:
[32:23] Well, I got up to 300 again.
Speaker 5:
[32:25] Damn, dog.
Speaker 4:
[32:25] And now I'm back down to 265. I know you can't see it, but I'm kind of jacked.
Speaker 5:
[32:30] Well, you're very thick.
Speaker 4:
[32:31] I'm jacked. I'm jacked.
Speaker 5:
[32:33] Yeah. You're very like, you're a bull.
Speaker 4:
[32:35] I know, man. But I'm trying to be a-
Speaker 5:
[32:37] You put the work in, it's just, but the problem is you also work with food, delicious food, phenomenal food.
Speaker 4:
[32:42] I stopped eating so much pasta.
Speaker 5:
[32:43] Did you?
Speaker 4:
[32:43] I did.
Speaker 5:
[32:44] So much is the funny way of saying it.
Speaker 4:
[32:46] I stopped eating so much pasta.
Speaker 5:
[32:48] By whose definition is so much?
Speaker 4:
[32:51] I've cut it out a lot. I'm trying to dial it in heavily. I'm trying to really dial it in. I need- This is my life. It's all about being dialed in.
Speaker 5:
[33:00] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[33:01] I can't let it go because once I let it go, it's going.
Speaker 3:
[33:05] I hear you.
Speaker 4:
[33:05] It's going.
Speaker 5:
[33:07] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[33:08] I know.
Speaker 5:
[33:09] It's hard once you get that those carbs, once you get that pizza and that pasta rolling.
Speaker 4:
[33:14] You know what? Once I stopped, I don't even fucking need that shit right now. I don't even crave it. I'm not really interested in that. A simple piece of toasted whole wheat bread does it for me. Just jam that. I don't need pizza. I've eaten enough pizza in my life for 45 children. 45 children's lifetimes couldn't equate the amount of pizza I've eaten.
Speaker 5:
[33:38] That's hilarious.
Speaker 4:
[33:40] So I mean, I feel like I've eaten enough of everything that I've needed to. Now it's time to just fuel. It's all about the fuel.
Speaker 5:
[33:47] You're dialing in.
Speaker 4:
[33:49] I'm working out with serious dudes, dudes that are jacked out of control. I'm the only one that's rounded.
Speaker 5:
[33:54] Do you have a trainer that you work with?
Speaker 4:
[33:55] No, no, no. I train with dudes who train every day. One dude's an IFBB pro. Oh, bodybuilders. Bodybuilders. But I'm trying to do a little bit of that. I introduce my stuff. You know, no one could really do the mace and stickers. That takes a long time to perfect that work. And everyone's way too tight.
Speaker 5:
[34:15] Right.
Speaker 4:
[34:15] So I do that on my own. I do like three days of that with the kettlebells. And I do normal shit. Deadlift. My knee's a little, so I'm doing zurchers. Zurchers is my favorite squad anyway.
Speaker 5:
[34:28] Zurchers are great.
Speaker 4:
[34:28] It's my favorite.
Speaker 5:
[34:29] It's really good for grappling and just for elevating your testosterone.
Speaker 4:
[34:33] It's known to be like one of the... It's definitely like a... It's a jujitsu and it's a... Every MMA fighter should be doing that.
Speaker 5:
[34:40] Yeah. It's big for wrestlers. The ability to take people down and also stuff take downs, the same sort of strength.
Speaker 4:
[34:45] That thrust. It's phenomenal. It's my favorite squad. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[34:50] It's great. The Dutch shoulder stuff that you're doing, all that mace stuff, you must have like really strong shoulders. I bet your shoulders never fuck with you.
Speaker 4:
[34:57] Not anymore because I healed myself with the Anit motherfucking club.
Speaker 5:
[35:01] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[35:02] Like literally John Wolf helped me. I would just hit him up like, yo.
Speaker 5:
[35:06] Those things are great. It's great just because most of the time when you're lifting, you're just picking stuff up.
Speaker 4:
[35:11] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[35:12] You're doing bench press. With this, like you're swinging it over your head and you're pausing out in front, swinging it overhead.
Speaker 4:
[35:18] Think about when you're doing Jiu Jitsu, you get your hand, your arm put over there and you have that strength.
Speaker 5:
[35:23] It's never in like bench press position.
Speaker 4:
[35:25] You're never like pushing perfectly. You're always in like weird.
Speaker 5:
[35:30] That's why yoga is really good for Jiu Jitsu.
Speaker 4:
[35:32] I've been trying to do a little bit more of everything.
Speaker 3:
[35:34] Yoga is so good for you, man.
Speaker 4:
[35:35] Pilates, yoga.
Speaker 5:
[35:37] Pilates is surprisingly hard.
Speaker 4:
[35:39] It's one of the hardest things I've ever done. Especially fucking put the goddamn things on my ankles. I was laying on my back doing scissors. Don't tell anybody. But yeah, I was next to my wife.
Speaker 5:
[35:50] Tighten up that man pussy.
Speaker 4:
[35:51] Bro, my man pussy was like fucking that. It was like rock solid. And I told her, I was like, yo, this hurts my asshole. Like, you're literally making me work out a crazy muscle. And she's like, yep, yep, you feel it, right?
Speaker 5:
[36:06] You gotta go home with a sore asshole. Ow. You're sitting on the bull. Ow.
Speaker 4:
[36:12] You gotta wear the doughnut. You gotta sit on the cushion.
Speaker 1:
[36:14] Oh, no.
Speaker 5:
[36:15] Remember those? People used to have those at their house on the seat? We'd have that like cushiony toilet seat.
Speaker 4:
[36:20] On the toilet seat?
Speaker 5:
[36:21] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[36:21] That one where you'd hit it and go, shit.
Speaker 3:
[36:23] Remember that one?
Speaker 4:
[36:24] Pink. Grandma pink. Oh, my God. I just remember the smell of old ass coming off a toilet, like a grandma's ass or a grandfather's ass.
Speaker 3:
[36:36] Yeah, old, eaten bad food ass.
Speaker 4:
[36:37] I remember my father's shit smell. Was it different? Yeah, you'd smell. He'd always throw a cigarette in the toilet afterwards, so it smelled like a shitty cigarette.
Speaker 3:
[36:48] That was back in the day where everybody smoked in the house.
Speaker 4:
[36:51] Oh my God, we used to have a ring. He would sit and there was a ring up there from the Rothman Blues.
Speaker 5:
[36:56] What's a Rothman Blue?
Speaker 4:
[36:57] It was a English cigarette.
Speaker 5:
[37:00] Wow. This episode is brought to you by Simply Safe. Have you ever looked into getting a security system? A lot of these companies can leave you feeling trapped, which is the last thing you want when it comes to your safety. They lock you into these absurdly long contracts and you have to take time out of your day to wait for a technician. As a long time supporter of this show, Simply Safe is nothing like that. Simply Safe gives you the flexibility to choose what type of system you want and when to set it up, with no long-term contracts or hidden fees. It ships to your door and you can easily install it. No technicians or drilling required. I'm not just talking about a porch camera here. You can get the whole shebang, sensors, cameras inside and out, and 24-7 professional monitoring. They earn your business by actually working. SimpliSafe has even been called America's Best Customer Service by Newsweek. It's clear why over 5 million people continue to use SimpliSafe every day. Everyone deserves to have peace of mind. SimpliSafe is offering an exclusive discount to my listeners. Right now, you can get 50 percent off your new system by visiting simplisafe.com/rogan. That's half off at simplisafe.com/rogan. There's no safe like SimpliSafe. This episode is brought to you by Visible. Let's be honest. Wireless can feel like a world of traps, expensive bills, tacked on fees, and promises that just don't hold up, you start to feel stuck. Don't fall for the trap. Escape to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. Get unlimited data and hotspot powered by Verizon. One line for just $25 a month, taxes and fees included. Get great coverage and a reliable connection with Visible. Plus, for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just $20 a month for one year, using code freshstart. Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers. Subject to change. See visible.com for plan, features and network management details. Isn't it crazy how doctors used to recommend cigarettes? You used to be able to buy cigarettes at a hospital.
Speaker 4:
[39:27] Oh yeah. I purchased them at hospitals with the thing.
Speaker 5:
[39:30] In bed. When the guy's in bed.
Speaker 4:
[39:31] Oh, you could buy them in, like they would come around, like a six-year-old kid would come around with the thing.
Speaker 5:
[39:36] Like a lady would come by with like a box of different kinds of cigarettes in it. And the guy was like picking out cigarettes that he could have in his hospital bed. Those are the days.
Speaker 4:
[39:45] Those are the days. I remember the pull machine was always my favorite when I got sent to the store to go do this, do that.
Speaker 5:
[39:52] Yeah, look at this. Oh wow. This has to be an ad, right? Is it an ad?
Speaker 4:
[39:57] That's the golden days.
Speaker 5:
[39:58] Or maybe it's a newspaper photograph or something like that.
Speaker 4:
[40:00] What was that, Paul Moll?
Speaker 5:
[40:04] Another 1950s cigarettes are marketed as being good for you. Look at the nurse's light in this guy's cigarette.
Speaker 4:
[40:10] That's crazy. Well, he doesn't look sick. His hair is done nicely.
Speaker 5:
[40:14] So when did people in America... We looked up this who figured out the first cigarette, didn't we?
Speaker 6:
[40:18] Is it the same guy, different nurse?
Speaker 5:
[40:21] Oh, this is all bullshit.
Speaker 6:
[40:22] I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[40:22] Maybe it's just one guy had a freaky nurse.
Speaker 4:
[40:25] This just reminds me of why is America so medicated? Why are we just so fucking medicated on everything?
Speaker 5:
[40:34] Because it works.
Speaker 4:
[40:35] Does it?
Speaker 5:
[40:36] I mean, it doesn't do what you want it to do. But as far as mental medications, That shit works? There's a lot of stuff that works. Sure. Prozac has a legitimate effect on people. They get accustomed to it. Good or bad? Adderall. Depends on who, it depends on the dose. If you want to say good or bad, I know a lot of people that are very successful that use Adderall. I don't necessarily know if it's bad. I think it depends on who you are, whether or not you can just use it when you need it, like to write or something like that. I know journalists that use it. But if it's one of those things that you're addicted to, like benzodiazepine, you know, like-
Speaker 4:
[41:17] Michael Jackson?
Speaker 5:
[41:18] Well, no.
Speaker 4:
[41:19] That was the Michael Jackson one?
Speaker 5:
[41:20] No.
Speaker 4:
[41:20] Or that was the Latin.
Speaker 5:
[41:23] He died from being sedated. He died from propofol.
Speaker 4:
[41:27] Oh, he was just sedated and then pumped with other stuff.
Speaker 5:
[41:30] I don't think he could sleep at night. I think he was just so mentally ill.
Speaker 4:
[41:34] That's.
Speaker 5:
[41:35] That guy was too famous, man. There is a level of too famous.
Speaker 4:
[41:41] Wait, it's deep.
Speaker 5:
[41:42] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[41:43] Everyone on earth knows who Michael Jackson is.
Speaker 5:
[41:45] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[41:47] I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know who Michael Jackson is. Even now. If you're born now, you know who he is.
Speaker 5:
[41:52] Yeah. I mean, he was so famous that even after all the sexual allegations, all of his music still played on the radio. It was so good.
Speaker 4:
[42:02] No one gives a fuck.
Speaker 5:
[42:03] It was so good.
Speaker 4:
[42:04] He's the only one, no one cares.
Speaker 5:
[42:06] Right. Look, R. Kelly stuff, you barely hear it anymore.
Speaker 4:
[42:08] Yeah. I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 5:
[42:11] Please don't.
Speaker 4:
[42:12] I will not. I don't know. I mean, it's disgraceful, but his music was phenomenal. It was like that changed motherfuckers, the whole vibe of R&B, like disgusting, unbelievable, nasty, disgraceful things.
Speaker 5:
[42:26] Right. But if you separate the artists from the art.
Speaker 4:
[42:28] That's the fucking worst thing. You can't do that. You cannot say that it comes as a whole package.
Speaker 5:
[42:33] But my question is, how many of those guys were like that way back in the day?
Speaker 4:
[42:40] Probably a large amount. You see the sickness. I don't understand why motherfuckers get a little bit of money and start doing weirdo shit. Like, I like to garden.
Speaker 5:
[42:50] Like, island shit?
Speaker 4:
[42:51] Yeah. Like, I like gardening. I like stonemasonry. I like working out and cooking. Right.
Speaker 5:
[42:59] But I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4:
[43:01] I'm obviously not on that level, but I don't see my mentality changing so far off where I'm fucking going to the island, you know?
Speaker 5:
[43:07] No. It's never going to happen.
Speaker 4:
[43:09] It's bizarre.
Speaker 5:
[43:09] Even if there was a new island. But the thing is, you made money by doing what you love. That's a very different kind of money. These people are just trying to make money. So when you're just trying to make money, it's all about experiences and items that you possess. So you want to buy your own island, you want a jet, what else you want? You want a Ferrari, you want a bunch of shit.
Speaker 4:
[43:31] Things, things.
Speaker 5:
[43:32] You want things, and you keep getting more things. And you want to do things that you're not supposed to do. Like you want to eat an endangered species, you know? There's like a restaurant in China. They'll serve you tiger, they'll serve you gorilla, like whatever you want to eat. Endangered species.
Speaker 4:
[43:47] I mean, I've seen things.
Speaker 5:
[43:48] I don't know if this is true, but there was a story that was written about this place where you could go in China. And this is a story, see if you can find it. There's a story about like, it's one of those things where it's like a gather, it's not like a restaurant.
Speaker 4:
[44:01] It's a gathering.
Speaker 5:
[44:02] It's a gathering that happens like once every year or something like that. And they go and they would eat endangered species.
Speaker 4:
[44:07] Bro, I think I've seen it.
Speaker 5:
[44:08] Which is fucking crazy.
Speaker 4:
[44:09] I know.
Speaker 5:
[44:10] But that's a billionaire, crazy person money thing. Like, we're gonna go eat a tiger. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4:
[44:15] It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5:
[44:16] Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4:
[44:17] It's crazy. I couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine. I don't even like to hurt anything.
Speaker 5:
[44:22] But that's because you're not that kind of a rich guy. You're a guy who made a bunch of money just by being himself. And that's a totally different enterprise than someone who's just trying to make a bunch of money. The people that are just trying to make a bunch of money, they're never happy. You're never satisfied.
Speaker 4:
[44:38] Yeah. Yeah, they are. I mean, I don't know where anybody comes from, but I live in a two fucking bedroom apartment my entire life, up until recently. I still do.
Speaker 6:
[44:48] Here it is.
Speaker 5:
[44:49] Crackdown on Menu for China's Animal Eaters.
Speaker 6:
[44:52] This is from 2014, though. So, they made a rule.
Speaker 4:
[44:54] Kind of a rivulet meat is that. Look at those fucking striations. Oh, no wonder. Porcupine.
Speaker 5:
[44:59] They changed the law because of it?
Speaker 6:
[45:01] Well, I mean, I don't know if because of it, but that's why it's probably not talked about as much anymore.
Speaker 5:
[45:09] The diners of southern China have long had a reputation for exotic tastes. With locals sometimes boasting, they will eat anything with four legs except a table. LOL jerks. So pangolin. So pangolin is endangered, right? Are they endangered? Wasn't that one of the things that they thought was the wet market?
Speaker 6:
[45:31] On top it says they had endangered tortoises and snakes and porcupines in cages.
Speaker 5:
[45:37] And imagine you're so nasty, you want to eat an endangered snake. Eating a snake alone is gross. But you're so nasty, you want to eat an endangered snake?
Speaker 4:
[45:46] I've had snake soup. I was in Japan and I had fucking a good snake soup. It was smoked.
Speaker 5:
[45:51] Was it good?
Speaker 4:
[45:52] It tasted like beef.
Speaker 5:
[45:54] Really?
Speaker 4:
[45:54] It did. It was supposed to be, you know, What kind of snake was it? Make you very versatile.
Speaker 5:
[46:00] Oh, versatile.
Speaker 4:
[46:01] What's the word?
Speaker 6:
[46:01] Vero.
Speaker 4:
[46:01] Vero.
Speaker 5:
[46:03] Versatile as well.
Speaker 6:
[46:05] Right?
Speaker 4:
[46:06] Yeah. It was a black snake, of course.
Speaker 3:
[46:09] Ah, a black snake. Was it a poisonous snake?
Speaker 4:
[46:12] Dad, I'm not sure. But there was a bunch. It was like this was a Michelin star restaurant, two Michelin star. And of course, it was like French, Japanese creations and fucking quite endangered.
Speaker 5:
[46:28] Really?
Speaker 4:
[46:31] As endangered as I could get.
Speaker 5:
[46:33] Endangered?
Speaker 4:
[46:34] A little turtle, a little snake.
Speaker 5:
[46:36] Some turtles are not endangered.
Speaker 4:
[46:37] I know, but I don't even like to do it. It turns me off.
Speaker 5:
[46:42] Dude, I used to have turtles as pets. I used to have turtles. At one point in time, I had piranhas. Turtles are way more psychotic than piranhas. When I would feed my turtles, I'd feed my turtles goldfish, and they'd swim around and grab the goldfish and just bite them in half. It was crazy to watch.
Speaker 4:
[47:01] They got those powerful jaws.
Speaker 5:
[47:02] And I'm looking at them like, of course, you're a little dinosaur. Just look at you. You look like a dinosaur. You have this crazy stegosaurus shell over your back.
Speaker 4:
[47:11] And you're swimming through the water. Some neck comes out like that.
Speaker 5:
[47:14] Dude, they were super aggressive. See if you can find videos of turtles fucking up goldfish.
Speaker 4:
[47:21] What about those big, though?
Speaker 3:
[47:23] Dude, they grab them with their hands.
Speaker 4:
[47:24] Like the big snappers, big snapping turtles. Those are like Bowser.
Speaker 5:
[47:29] Yeah, have you ever seen one in real life?
Speaker 4:
[47:31] I've seen the big sea, like the big tortoise in Hawaii, but I've never seen a big snapping one.
Speaker 5:
[47:36] I saw like a medium one, not a real big one, but they look so freaky. Their fucking teeth or that beak thing, that mouth.
Speaker 4:
[47:45] Jacked up neck too.
Speaker 5:
[47:46] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[47:46] Big huge thing.
Speaker 5:
[47:48] Big fucking huge clamp down neck. There's one different type. What is that one really crazy looking snapping turtle? Is it a gar snapping turtle?
Speaker 4:
[47:58] Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 6:
[47:59] I just pulled up, I've never seen this one before.
Speaker 5:
[48:01] Whoa, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 6:
[48:02] A Mada Mada turtle?
Speaker 5:
[48:04] Whoa.
Speaker 6:
[48:05] What the fuck kind of head is that? It's a triangle head.
Speaker 5:
[48:09] Yeah, that's a UFO.
Speaker 6:
[48:09] With a weird nose.
Speaker 5:
[48:11] That's weird.
Speaker 6:
[48:13] I've never seen that.
Speaker 5:
[48:14] It's eating a goldfish too? There you go. Oh, he just swallows it whole. What a weird looking creature. If you told me yesterday that this didn't exist, I would have believed you. If you told me yesterday this is AI.
Speaker 4:
[48:28] What's the reasoning that a lot of these species go flat heads?
Speaker 5:
[48:34] Hmm. Good question. Mixing the bottom of the... Because you slip right into the shell, I'm sure.
Speaker 4:
[48:38] Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 5:
[48:39] I'm sure you fit better in the shell.
Speaker 4:
[48:40] But you go hammerhead and heads like that and fucking stingrays and shit just turns flat. Flounder.
Speaker 5:
[48:47] Right. That's a weird one. Two eyeballs on one side.
Speaker 4:
[48:50] What the fuck is that?
Speaker 5:
[48:51] So this is a very timid turtle eating the goldfish. He's just... the ones that I had, they swam after the goldfish and grabbed them.
Speaker 4:
[49:00] Look at this fucking thing.
Speaker 5:
[49:01] Whoa! Alligator snapping turtle.
Speaker 4:
[49:04] Yeah, that's the one. This one is the one that turns into fucking Donatello.
Speaker 5:
[49:09] Look at that face on that.
Speaker 6:
[49:10] See its tongue down there?
Speaker 5:
[49:11] Yeah. Oh, so its tongue looks like a goldfish?
Speaker 6:
[49:14] A little worm.
Speaker 5:
[49:15] So it tricks them?
Speaker 6:
[49:15] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[49:17] Come get some. Look. Oh, snap. Nature is so evil, it gave me a lure in my mouth.
Speaker 4:
[49:24] Nature has no mercy, man.
Speaker 5:
[49:25] Nope.
Speaker 4:
[49:26] No mercy.
Speaker 5:
[49:27] No mercy.
Speaker 6:
[49:28] We were talking about smoking this. I saw this today that UK has voted to ban anyone born after 2008 to be banned from smoking. It hasn't passed. It has to...
Speaker 5:
[49:40] Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm going to light up a cigar.
Speaker 4:
[49:45] That's a crazy one.
Speaker 6:
[49:47] I thought it was kind of fake when I saw it, but I looked it up. It's on... There's articles about it. It's a draft law, they say, which doesn't mean it's an actual law yet, I think.
Speaker 5:
[49:56] I'm opening up a fresh box for them. Fuck you. That's crazy. But that's just... We were talking about this yesterday.
Speaker 4:
[50:04] They love having their fucking thumb on you.
Speaker 5:
[50:07] It's government. It's like when they expand government, they got to give government something to do. So what do they do? They come up with more rules and regulations, and they come up with more people to enforce those rules and regulations, even if they don't make any sense. More bills.
Speaker 4:
[50:19] Pass this, pass that. I got to fucking... Everyone has an idea. Every new politician has their ideas.
Speaker 5:
[50:25] And they all want to fucking control you. That's what they want to do. More than anything, they want to control you. That's their favorite sport. Their favorite sport is telling you what to do.
Speaker 4:
[50:34] I just had a beautiful dinner with our mayor of New York, Mamdani.
Speaker 5:
[50:38] How is he? You like him?
Speaker 4:
[50:41] He's 34 years old, bro. I've never thought that I'd be sitting at a table with a mayor who's younger than me and knows about fucking rap. And like...
Speaker 5:
[50:49] Didn't he rap for a while?
Speaker 4:
[50:51] I don't acknowledge that.
Speaker 5:
[50:56] That's hilarious.
Speaker 4:
[50:57] No, but he's, you know, he's a very nice guy, you know. We had a nice dinner. I didn't speak politic. I'm not really one of those guys. We just talked shit.
Speaker 5:
[51:05] Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:
[51:06] What the do I know? I don't know shit.
Speaker 5:
[51:07] I don't know shit either.
Speaker 4:
[51:08] Exactly.
Speaker 5:
[51:09] The thing that I would always be most concerned is who's financing him? What is their agenda? What are they trying to get him to do? Because it's always money. It's always about money. People are discovering New York City mandanis.
Speaker 4:
[51:22] Oh, that's a crazy picture, right?
Speaker 5:
[51:23] He's rapping with an apron on. What's that about?
Speaker 4:
[51:27] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[51:28] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[51:29] It's a wild one.
Speaker 5:
[51:29] Do you want to shame the guy for his mistakes of the past? Let's just, you know, he's just doing some wild stuff, like with taxes and things. Like, he's trying to tax these billionaires.
Speaker 4:
[51:40] I saw that. What I'd like him to do is- You want one of these, brother? Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5:
[51:43] Why not?
Speaker 4:
[51:45] What I'd like him to do is fucking help alleviate- Thank you, senor.
Speaker 3:
[51:49] Take the top off it for him.
Speaker 4:
[51:51] Help alleviate taxes for people who were born and raised New Yorkers. I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's bullshit.
Speaker 5:
[51:57] Right.
Speaker 4:
[51:58] At least give me a little break.
Speaker 5:
[52:00] Not just that, but they should be responsible with where the tax dollars go. So before asking you for more taxes, clean up all the fraud.
Speaker 4:
[52:08] Oh, my God.
Speaker 5:
[52:08] That's not a fucking big request. That's like a pretty simple thing to ask for. But nobody says that. All they ever say is, we need to tax you more.
Speaker 4:
[52:18] This year was a mess. He came into all of us when it was a shit storm of literal horrible weather. And the fucking city was an honest garbage hole. It was a shit mess.
Speaker 5:
[52:29] It got real bad with snow, right?
Speaker 4:
[52:30] Fucking seven feet high piles of garbage. Like, disgrace.
Speaker 5:
[52:34] Now, why was that?
Speaker 4:
[52:35] Because I don't know. I would say the union rep wasn't allowing the workers to fucking go and clean shit.
Speaker 5:
[52:44] I love your honesty.
Speaker 4:
[52:45] When they're at odds. Listen, I don't know, I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 5:
[52:51] Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 4:
[52:52] When they're at odds, they're at odds.
Speaker 5:
[52:54] Well, so there was a union strike.
Speaker 4:
[52:58] They don't allow any of the sanitation people to move a muscle unless their union rep says it's okay. You go and sit in the fucking truck and take a nap until we tell you to move.
Speaker 5:
[53:08] Right.
Speaker 4:
[53:10] I'm with them. Me too.
Speaker 5:
[53:12] Listen, I'm with them. Me too. Because of all the fraud that's existing in that city, all the waste that they've showed, that is one thing you should fucking pay people for because the job sucks, okay? And it's super necessary to close Jorge Masvidal. Yeah, super necessary. You fucking have to pick up the garbage, god damn it. Pay those fucking people. I mean, are they asking for unreasonable amounts when you find out how much money you spent on the fucking homeless situation and it never got better at all? Who's, what are they getting? I bet they're getting paid more than the garbage people.
Speaker 4:
[53:42] I'm sure, but they get good pension. Everyone works for a pension. It's all for security. Pension, there's fucking dental. How many times are you going to do dental?
Speaker 5:
[53:52] Yeah, but you should also get paid if you're fucking, if you're moving garbage, you should get paid well, period. And for people to go, oh, it's an unskilled job. That's a backbreaking job. You're slinging around bags all day and picking up cans and yanking on levers.
Speaker 4:
[54:09] Far from unskilled.
Speaker 5:
[54:10] Yeah, it's not a skill.
Speaker 4:
[54:11] You try and drive that fucking truck.
Speaker 5:
[54:13] It's also dangerous. You're hanging off the back of the truck sometimes. You're out there in the weather. It's fucking hard. You could hurt your back. It's fucking hard. It's a hard job. They should get paid well. And anybody doesn't think that is a cunt.
Speaker 4:
[54:29] But it should definitely be paid well.
Speaker 5:
[54:30] That's the thing about this world. Everybody's greedy. They want it all for themselves.
Speaker 6:
[54:34] There's one thing they're doing I just found online. They're adding these giant bins, which maybe is better than piles.
Speaker 4:
[54:42] My boy. They're always adding these fucking bins.
Speaker 5:
[54:45] Yeah, but the problem with that is...
Speaker 4:
[54:46] Goddamn Eric Adams made you buy a hundred dollar garbage can for your house back in the day from his cousin.
Speaker 5:
[54:51] The problem is...
Speaker 4:
[54:52] This is what I was told from my man in Middle Village.
Speaker 5:
[54:54] How much?
Speaker 4:
[54:55] A hundred dollars. My boy, Connie Gorgeous, told me. A hundred dollars. You have to buy a fucking new garbage can for your house one way or another, no matter why, from Eric Adams' cousin.
Speaker 5:
[55:05] Oh, really? Show that again, Jamie.
Speaker 4:
[55:08] A hundred dollars.
Speaker 5:
[55:09] So that actually makes more sense, though, that they're doing this big, because that also probably... The problem is, if it does keep the rats out, then one of the rats is going to eat. Then you're going to have a bigger rat problem. New York's got a fucking giant rat problem.
Speaker 4:
[55:23] I've been seeing less lately.
Speaker 5:
[55:25] Because they're hiding.
Speaker 4:
[55:25] Yeah, I've been seeing less. Well, it's about to be summertime, so they're going to come out. Once again, if they pick the fucking garbage up, there'll be less rat. If they stop doing all the construction... I mean, that's what breeds these rats, they come out.
Speaker 5:
[55:40] For sure.
Speaker 4:
[55:40] You're digging these fucks up. You're disturbing their house.
Speaker 5:
[55:44] Yeah, but they rely on people to eat. The thing is, it's completely coexisting, like those monkeys in the Philippines. It's an ecosystem. The rats and the people are an ecosystem because the rats eat human garbage, and they live piled up around humans for a reason, so they could eat our garbage. And during the pandemic, it was a real fucking problem because no one was going to restaurants for a while, so the rats were everywhere. They're freaking out. They're eating each other. Rats do eat each other. I had a rat eat, well, a bunch of rats ate a dead rat in my garage once. Yeah, a big fat rat, too. He died. I heard the trap go off, but it was like 10 o'clock at night. I was like, fuck it. I'll deal with it in the morning. I got up in the morning. There was nothing left but his tail. There was like some skin, the feet and the tail. They ate his entire body.
Speaker 4:
[56:35] Yeah. Now, there was a whole garage full, like one of those, I don't know, like a storage space. But in the street, you just heard them fucking, the gate would be knocking back and forth, like they're having a goddamn underground fucking strike force in there.
Speaker 5:
[56:52] That's why when people get upset about coyotes, listen.
Speaker 4:
[56:55] Bro, I heard them recently.
Speaker 5:
[56:57] You need them.
Speaker 4:
[56:57] Bro, the fucking pack of coyotes howling and screaming during feeding.
Speaker 5:
[57:03] In New York City.
Speaker 4:
[57:04] Well, upstate.
Speaker 5:
[57:05] They do it in New York City, too. They find them in the Central Park.
Speaker 4:
[57:09] Yeah, like an hour and a half away, it's really something else.
Speaker 3:
[57:12] Yeah, a lot of them up there.
Speaker 5:
[57:13] But you need them, otherwise you're going to have rats everywhere. Like, there's a balance to all this shit. Don't leave your cat outside.
Speaker 4:
[57:19] No, I saw a fucking owl like this outside.
Speaker 5:
[57:22] Really?
Speaker 4:
[57:23] Fucking in the daytime.
Speaker 5:
[57:25] What is this?
Speaker 6:
[57:27] Rats hide. I think this is.
Speaker 4:
[57:28] Oh, yes.
Speaker 5:
[57:29] Oh, yeah, they hide in your engine.
Speaker 4:
[57:30] Oh, rat ate my fucking boy's BMW engine. All the wiring.
Speaker 5:
[57:36] Oh, my God. They chewed up all the insulation. Well, that's just. That's not dead rats, right? What is that?
Speaker 6:
[57:48] It's not alive ones.
Speaker 5:
[57:50] Isn't that the stuff, though? I think that's the stuff of the ceiling. OK, yeah, I think I think it's the insulation above the roof of the all right above the engine. It's just they nested in this guy's place.
Speaker 6:
[58:03] Yeah, this says that the trash bins are going to get rid of a lot of the.
Speaker 4:
[58:08] How the fuck do they do that?
Speaker 3:
[58:08] Yeah, but you're not going to have to lower it.
Speaker 5:
[58:10] The thing is, didn't we figure out that the number of rats in New York City is pretty similar to the number of people?
Speaker 4:
[58:18] I would probably say it out. It out does it. They don't really know. They're just so small. They.
Speaker 5:
[58:23] They don't really know, but someone had told me that the biomass of rats was the same as the biomass of people in New York City, meaning the weight. But we looked that up and that doesn't seem to be true.
Speaker 4:
[58:33] But if it's true, it takes much more to make up one human being. So there's going to be ten times more.
Speaker 5:
[58:39] Sometimes people read things or write things down. It's just not accurate because like there are a lot of cases where small things have a crazy biomass. Like I think the biomass of ants is similar to the biomass of human beings on Earth.
Speaker 4:
[58:57] Wow.
Speaker 5:
[58:59] Find out if that's true. Put that into Perplexity.
Speaker 4:
[59:01] You ever see the ants that have that little honey butt? They have a little ball of honey on their ass?
Speaker 5:
[59:06] Oh, I have seen that. What's that for?
Speaker 4:
[59:07] It's a taste. It could be delicious.
Speaker 5:
[59:10] Come get some.
Speaker 4:
[59:10] Give me that fucking ass.
Speaker 5:
[59:12] Imagine if ladies started having that. That's the new thing.
Speaker 4:
[59:15] Oh my god, I eat so much ass.
Speaker 5:
[59:16] No nose ring. Now they just have a honey pot on their ass.
Speaker 4:
[59:19] A honey ass. That's how you capture me.
Speaker 5:
[59:21] Look at this. Oh, ants on Earth together have about 20% of the biomass of all humans when measured as dry carbon mass. Okay. What about insects in general? Maybe that's where they fucked up. What is the biomass of all insects compared to the biomass of people?
Speaker 4:
[59:45] What are you typing this in? What is this?
Speaker 5:
[59:47] Our lovely AI sponsor, Perplexity.
Speaker 4:
[59:49] Oh, beautiful.
Speaker 5:
[59:50] Yeah. On a global scale, total biomass of all insects is several times larger than human biomass. Wow. Fuck that.
Speaker 4:
[59:59] And all this is Smithsonian.
Speaker 5:
[60:01] Bugs.
Speaker 4:
[60:02] I love fucking bugs.
Speaker 5:
[60:03] Do you?
Speaker 4:
[60:04] I love bugs.
Speaker 5:
[60:05] We're lucky they're little.
Speaker 4:
[60:06] I know. You're right. There's a real, like, there's a generous amount of species up where I'm at, and I really enjoy them recently. You can't be upset at them because if the area was unhealthy, they wouldn't be there.
Speaker 5:
[60:19] Well, you're in upstate?
Speaker 4:
[60:20] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[60:21] Upstate's beautiful, but check yourself for ticks.
Speaker 4:
[60:24] Oh, I do all the time.
Speaker 5:
[60:26] All the time. Upstate's got a lot of Lyme.
Speaker 4:
[60:28] He got bit by a tick recently.
Speaker 5:
[60:30] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[60:30] He caught it three days later. He already had it, but he's good now.
Speaker 5:
[60:34] Did he go and immediately get the antibiotics?
Speaker 1:
[60:36] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[60:36] That's what you got to do. When you get that Lyme disease, you got to get it quick.
Speaker 4:
[60:39] Where do you think they usually capture you? Like, around the crevasses?
Speaker 5:
[60:42] Yeah, like your legs, your ankles, where they climb up on your pants.
Speaker 4:
[60:46] But as long as they don't go up in the fucking Netherlands. Yeah, the nether region.
Speaker 5:
[60:49] That would suck. But I think it's a systemic issue more than it is the initial bite. The bite though, to know that if you got Lyme disease, a couple of days after the infection starts getting like a bullseye around it. And that to a lot of people is the big sign that you've got Lyme disease. But sometimes when they get to the doctor, that circle is gone and the doctor doesn't believe him. I've had this happen to a friend of mine who's a very smart guy. And him and his son both got Lyme disease. And he couldn't get the fucking doctor to believe that it was Lyme disease until his kid started getting, what's that mouth thing? Guillain-Barr, how do you say that? Is that what you say? Guillain-Barr syndrome? Half your face gets paralyzed.
Speaker 4:
[61:35] Oh, fucking, that was palsy.
Speaker 5:
[61:37] Right, but there's a name for it. I think it's, Guillain-Barr is very similar because I knew a guy who had that and it was the same thing and he was diagnosed with Guillain-Barr.
Speaker 4:
[61:49] Does it go back or is it?
Speaker 5:
[61:50] Yeah, it went back. Dice Clay had it for a while.
Speaker 4:
[61:53] Really?
Speaker 5:
[61:54] Yeah, Dice Clay had half of his face and he was going on stage with it. He didn't give a fuck. Guillain-Barr syndrome, facial weakness or paralysis often caused-
Speaker 4:
[62:01] I bet you no one even noticed.
Speaker 5:
[62:03] With Dice, he talked about it. He brought it up. It was pretty obvious.
Speaker 4:
[62:06] That's what I'm saying. He was just talking like that.
Speaker 5:
[62:07] No, but it was pretty obvious. Like half his face was like this. It was crazy. Half his face just wouldn't move. No?
Speaker 4:
[62:15] Not good. If shit happens, man, you got to just deal with things as they come. You can't really, like... Who the fuck knows what this world is about and why things happen, bro?
Speaker 5:
[62:26] I'm just saying, be careful with ticks. Yeah. Because those bitches, they're trying to get you. And those little fuckers, a large percentage of them on the East Coast carry Lyme disease.
Speaker 4:
[62:35] For sure. For sure. They're diseased little pricks. I spray myself with a nice geranium spray.
Speaker 5:
[62:43] Geranium?
Speaker 4:
[62:43] Yeah. There's an elixir. There's like a natural lavender, geranium oil, all kinds of shit that you spray on yourself that repels.
Speaker 5:
[62:50] Are you sure that doesn't make them want to bite you more?
Speaker 4:
[62:52] No, no. It repels.
Speaker 5:
[62:53] For sure?
Speaker 4:
[62:53] It brings other things, but it takes those guys away.
Speaker 5:
[62:57] It brings in ankle bracelets?
Speaker 4:
[62:59] Yeah, bro. My God. Ankle bracelets and Brahma Bull nose ring. When I was in Mexico City, I was dressed. I bought a fucking jade, like yade. It's from over there. I brought a jade necklace that was a little bit too tight.
Speaker 5:
[63:15] Oh, no.
Speaker 4:
[63:16] So it looked like a choker.
Speaker 5:
[63:17] Like a dog?
Speaker 4:
[63:18] My boy told me I looked like I had my nipple pierced in the picture that I showed you. Yeah, I looked like a fucking bear. I had circular glasses, a scruff. You could see a little bit of this scruff. Two, two chokers. This is what I'm saying. You act different on vacation. I had two. I had a fucking amber choker and a jade choker.
Speaker 5:
[63:41] You would be killing it in the bear community. If you ever want to switch teams, you would dominate the bear community, right?
Speaker 4:
[63:48] Just do it for fun. Like, fuck it. We'll fuck some guys up. What's up?
Speaker 5:
[63:53] What were we just asking? What was the question? I thought I had a question. I forgot.
Speaker 4:
[64:00] You got all off track with that comment.
Speaker 5:
[64:02] Yeah. It's Bear Talk.
Speaker 4:
[64:04] Bear Talk 101.
Speaker 5:
[64:06] What were we just talking about before that, though?
Speaker 4:
[64:10] Bugs.
Speaker 5:
[64:11] Right. Bugs. Ticks. Ticks. Lyme disease.
Speaker 4:
[64:15] Guillain Bar.
Speaker 5:
[64:17] There's another one that's out now. There's another disease that's out that people are getting called alpha-gal, and it's from a tick called the Lone Star Tick, and it makes you allergic to red meat. That one you cannot get, my friend.
Speaker 4:
[64:30] No, that's fucked up.
Speaker 5:
[64:31] I don't want that. That is not for you.
Speaker 4:
[64:32] No.
Speaker 5:
[64:33] That would ruin everything in your life.
Speaker 4:
[64:35] Bro, I've been eating so many fucking bone-in fillets. It's been crazy.
Speaker 5:
[64:37] That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:
[64:38] I need those gains. There's no other gains like that, right? Bison. I've been eating a lot of gains things, I guess.
Speaker 5:
[64:47] Yeah, wild game is the best for that.
Speaker 4:
[64:50] Sweet potatoes and game.
Speaker 5:
[64:52] There you go. Sweet potatoes, phenomenal.
Speaker 4:
[64:54] That's what I exchanged the pasta for the sweet potato.
Speaker 5:
[64:58] Do you eat rice?
Speaker 4:
[65:00] A little bit. A touch. A touch.
Speaker 5:
[65:03] I hear conflicting things. I like it.
Speaker 4:
[65:07] White rice.
Speaker 5:
[65:07] There's a lot of things that I eat that I like. I just eat them because I like it. Like when I'm eating spaghetti, I'm under no illusion.
Speaker 4:
[65:13] Yeah, now you know what you're eating.
Speaker 5:
[65:14] I know what I'm doing. I'm not under an illusion.
Speaker 4:
[65:16] You like a good pasta. I know that.
Speaker 5:
[65:18] I do.
Speaker 4:
[65:18] Evan Funk pasta, right?
Speaker 5:
[65:20] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4:
[65:20] I know you like a good Evan Funk pasta.
Speaker 5:
[65:22] That dude can cook.
Speaker 4:
[65:23] I had him on my show early on before all his success and just kicked it off. I loved his, he's a fucking trip.
Speaker 5:
[65:32] He's the man. And he is aficionado.
Speaker 3:
[65:33] When you care like that.
Speaker 4:
[65:35] Yeah. There's another guy, Stefan Sechi in New York. Oh my God, Stefano Sechi is another sicko. Make amazing a matarrano. You know, it's all about the wooden dowel. That's how they make the pasta. It's all old style. Nothing extruded all with the thing.
Speaker 5:
[65:55] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[65:55] With the matarrano.
Speaker 3:
[65:56] That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5:
[65:58] Evan's place is you can watch them make the pasta. You know, like he's got Mother Wolf. He's got, is it funky or funk? How do you pronounce the last name?
Speaker 4:
[66:06] I have no idea. I call him funk. It's like Terry Funk.
Speaker 5:
[66:08] Right. Probably funk.
Speaker 4:
[66:10] You know, I thought he was Terry Funk's cousin.
Speaker 5:
[66:12] Are they making tortellini here?
Speaker 4:
[66:14] No, that's, that's, that's Stefano.
Speaker 5:
[66:16] Oh my God.
Speaker 3:
[66:17] Look how good that looks.
Speaker 4:
[66:18] This man right here, when I went to Osteria Francescana in Modena, you know, I love how you said that. Massimo Battura's place. It was like the number one restaurant for many years. He was the chef there that was making all the food. He was like a young man. And then when he opened his restaurant, Res Dora in New York, it was like he takes such good care of my mother as well. Like yo, they just go above and beyond. He's a beautiful guy.
Speaker 5:
[66:44] This is art. Like the way he's making this food, this is art. This is a work of art. He's performing art.
Speaker 4:
[66:49] Bro, who'd I have? I had fucking Devin Haney in the kitchen with me making pasta with him.
Speaker 5:
[66:53] Oh really? That's crazy.
Speaker 4:
[66:54] You know, I like to bring these guys in and do weird things.
Speaker 3:
[66:59] That's crazy. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:
[67:01] Devin Haney making pasta.
Speaker 3:
[67:02] Bro.
Speaker 4:
[67:04] Yuri, bro.
Speaker 5:
[67:05] I know.
Speaker 4:
[67:06] Holy shit.
Speaker 5:
[67:07] That was crazy.
Speaker 4:
[67:09] What an animal.
Speaker 5:
[67:11] Well, I mean.
Speaker 4:
[67:12] How ridiculous. I was so, it's like.
Speaker 3:
[67:14] You kind of got to look at it two ways.
Speaker 4:
[67:17] Oh shit.
Speaker 3:
[67:17] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[67:18] You got to look at it two ways. One, you got to look at it from Yuri's perspective. Like he had it there. The fight was over. The guy was hurt. But you also look at it from Carlos's perspective. Carlos Olberg is hurt. He can't move his right leg. They're probably going to stop it in between rounds. And Yuri, he can't move. So Yuri is just pot-chotting them. And he's kicking his one good leg. He's kicking his one good leg. And then boom, he clips him with a left hook.
Speaker 4:
[67:46] I mean, with the one punch that he's known for.
Speaker 5:
[67:49] Not just that.
Speaker 4:
[67:49] The step-back hook.
Speaker 5:
[67:50] The one punch that you can throw if your right leg is hurt. A check hook.
Speaker 4:
[67:55] Crazy.
Speaker 5:
[67:56] Because when you... The check hook is one of the... Like, Alexander Volkonovsky actually did a really good breakdown of this on YouTube. But what he was talking about is that the check hook, you put all the weight on the front leg a lot. Because as the person's coming, a lot of the weight as you uncork the punch is on that front leg. And Olberg's... That's a snake. Like, the way he throws that left hook is so fast.
Speaker 4:
[68:19] It's perfect.
Speaker 5:
[68:19] And it was the perfect punch.
Speaker 4:
[68:21] He threw one just to get the distance on the first one and then clipped them again.
Speaker 5:
[68:27] Perfect.
Speaker 4:
[68:28] But Yuri, man.
Speaker 5:
[68:29] So Yuri's saying...
Speaker 4:
[68:30] It looked like... I watched... I know you were watching as well, watching in real time, but it just looked like he got upset that he hurt his knee and he was like, fuck, He clearly did get upset.
Speaker 5:
[68:40] I really do think that he got upset. I do think that's true.
Speaker 4:
[68:44] But it makes no difference on...
Speaker 5:
[68:45] It doesn't matter. Carlos got him. Carlos got him. He fucked up.
Speaker 4:
[68:48] That's a clean win.
Speaker 5:
[68:49] But that's part, yeah, it's part of fighting. Like, you have to be ruthless. Like, Khalil Rowntree is one of the nicest guys you're ever gonna meet. When he fought Modestas Bukakis, he side kicked his knee sideways and blew it apart.
Speaker 4:
[69:02] It was nuts.
Speaker 5:
[69:03] And Khalil is one of the nicest guys alive. But when you're in there, he's trying to do it to you, you're trying to do it to him, and if his leg gets blown out, you have to take advantage of it because he would take advantage of it on you.
Speaker 4:
[69:14] I've been watching for a long time. I've been watching Khalil for a long time since the beginning. I remember the change when he went to Thailand. There was this change. He came back from Thailand and that's what he did. That was his first fight when he was fucking.
Speaker 5:
[69:28] The first fight was Eric Anders.
Speaker 4:
[69:30] Yeah, and he looked totally different.
Speaker 5:
[69:31] Yeah, me and DC were like, what happened? Because he was always good.
Speaker 4:
[69:36] With the front leg and just like all time.
Speaker 5:
[69:37] He was super sharp. He was super sharp.
Speaker 4:
[69:41] That was nuts.
Speaker 5:
[69:41] Yeah. So that's it. Oh, my God. So horrible to watch. Oh, my God. Just perfect sidekick to the knee. Just blew his shit apart. That guy was out for over a year.
Speaker 4:
[69:53] I mean, that's one of the gnarliest.
Speaker 5:
[69:56] Oh, it's so nasty when you see it sideways.
Speaker 4:
[69:58] Oh, because it started at the thigh.
Speaker 5:
[70:00] I don't want to see it, Jamie. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Speaker 4:
[70:03] Oh, bro, it started at the thigh.
Speaker 5:
[70:04] Show me some Khalil Rowntree versus Eric Anders. So, Eric Anders is one of the toughest fucking human beings to ever live.
Speaker 4:
[70:12] For sure.
Speaker 5:
[70:13] Because he was getting lit up, his legs were getting destroyed, and he never even flinched. He never even made an owl face. It was never like, there's nothing. He just dead stoic the entire time. And then I asked him afterwards, oh, fuck yeah, that shit hurt.
Speaker 4:
[70:29] But guys like Eric Anders, he's been in the UFC for 10 years.
Speaker 5:
[70:33] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[70:33] Decent career.
Speaker 5:
[70:34] Super smart guy. But he invested his money, bought a bunch of houses.
Speaker 4:
[70:37] Oh really?
Speaker 5:
[70:38] Very clever.
Speaker 4:
[70:38] Oh, that's great.
Speaker 5:
[70:39] Very smart. Yeah, he's smart.
Speaker 4:
[70:40] That's good to know.
Speaker 5:
[70:41] Yeah, he's planning. And he's just a cool dude to talk to. But when Khalil came, like we were looking at him, he's like, he's moving like a tie. Like the hand movements, everything.
Speaker 4:
[70:50] Yeah, he came back totally different.
Speaker 5:
[70:52] That light front foot, it was like full on Muay Thai. And Khalil's always been super fast. Like one of his strengths is that he can hit guys before they even calculate. Like his speed when he's like really going after you, like in the Jamal Hill fight, he's got speed that confuses guys because they're like, oh shit, like you got to re-calibrate because this guy moves faster than any of the middleweights.
Speaker 4:
[71:15] Nasty elbows and his nasty, like, just.
Speaker 5:
[71:19] He's like, well I shouldn't say to any middleweight, but he moves like a middleweight. That's what I should say. He's got like middleweight speed but a light heavyweight frame. And he just started lighting them up with like pure tie technique. And this was the perfect kind of showcase for him because Eric's not like a big wrestler.
Speaker 4:
[71:37] Eric's kind of a brawler.
Speaker 5:
[71:39] And with a guy like Khalil, especially since Eric fights Southpaw. So when you fight Southpaw and Khalil fights Southpaw, it really opens up that left leg to get attacked. Or the right leg, excuse me, to get attacked. Because your power leg is behind you, whereas you're fighting normal people that are orthodox. It's usually, you have to kick them with an inside kick if you're a Southpaw. But Southpaw to Southpaw like this, Khalil just can light that leg on fire. Oh, it was fucking, it was, but it was the sound it was making. Like when we were there, it was like, slap!
Speaker 4:
[72:12] This was memorably different.
Speaker 5:
[72:14] Well, he had just gotten really tuned in, man. When he was in Thailand, he got really tuned in. Particularly, oh, you already got it in the second round. It was particularly the first round.
Speaker 4:
[72:23] He got tuned up before this, right, which made him go there, which made him go to Thailand.
Speaker 5:
[72:26] Johnny Walker.
Speaker 4:
[72:27] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[72:27] So Johnny Walker clipped him with an elbow from the clinch. He hit him with a tile wall and KO'ed him.
Speaker 4:
[72:32] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[72:33] Back when Johnny Walker was very explosive and Johnny Walker was very wild. He fought wild. He fights more calculated now.
Speaker 4:
[72:41] Yeah. I feel like after The Worm, it was a wrap, after he hurt himself.
Speaker 5:
[72:46] I know. That worm thing was crazy.
Speaker 4:
[72:47] That one thing. The shoulder is one of the worst things to hurt and then get surgery on. It never comes back, right?
Speaker 5:
[72:53] He blew it apart, too. Doing the worm. You can't make that shit up, bro. I think that was, was that Mishus or Kornoff? I don't know who he fought during that fight, but he fought a good guy. And it's like, Johnny Walker, when he was winning in the early days of his fights in the UFC, he was just, yeah, it's Serkunov, right? Yeah, like that kind of shit, like these flying elbows, like wild, reckless. But he got KO'd a few times by some really technical people. And then he tried to be, yeah, right there. Like he fucked his elbow or his shoulder up.
Speaker 4:
[73:30] I've jumped on the bed like that and hurt my fucking arm. You know, when you jump on the bed, you forget that your arm is connected.
Speaker 5:
[73:38] See, he fell like that and like immediately blew his shoulder out. God, it's so silly.
Speaker 4:
[73:43] Fucking horrible. Look at him. Looks like he can KO himself.
Speaker 5:
[73:46] Oh, you can see it pop out.
Speaker 4:
[73:48] Terrible, bro.
Speaker 5:
[73:49] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[73:49] Terrible. Some people just shoot themselves in the dick.
Speaker 5:
[73:53] I know, they do. Yeah, there's a lot of people that do. A lot of people ruin their life for no fucking reason. They can't help it.
Speaker 4:
[74:01] I go through life trying not to shoot myself in the dick.
Speaker 5:
[74:04] Yeah, me too. That's like one of my cardinal rules.
Speaker 4:
[74:06] Cardinal.
Speaker 5:
[74:07] I think everybody should abide by that. Don't shoot yourself in the dick if you can avoid it.
Speaker 4:
[74:11] If you can avoid it, if not, there you go. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5:
[74:14] You're welcome. But fighters are wild people. They're doing a wild thing. It's part of what makes them great is that they take these crazy chances. They're just nuts.
Speaker 4:
[74:23] What am I, silly?
Speaker 5:
[74:24] Oh, you lift the top? Where? The top top. It flips back. There you go. And then push that button up. There you go.
Speaker 4:
[74:32] There it is. I'm used to a torch. I hear you.
Speaker 5:
[74:37] This episode is brought to you by blinds.com. We made it. We're out of the dark. Literally. The sun is coming back. Days are getting longer. And look, it's great. But some mornings, you're not ready. The sun has no business blasting through your bedroom like it's trying to interrogate you. That's where having custom window treatments is a game changer. And blinds.com, they make the whole process super easy. You want to do it yourself? Cool. Do your thing. You want a pro to handle everything? Measure it, install it, all of it? They've got you covered. It's all online, so you can shop whenever you want, but you still get access to real design professionals. They'll even send free samples right to your door. And listen, you can trust these guys. blinds.com has been doing this for 30 years, and they back everything with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So you're not guessing and just hoping it works out. You're ordering with confidence. Right now, listeners of this podcast get an exclusive 40% off with your entire order. Just go to blinds.com and use the promo code ROGAN40 at checkout. Limited time offer, rules and restrictions apply.
Speaker 4:
[75:52] I'm excited for this.
Speaker 5:
[75:53] The Urie thing was like, sorry.
Speaker 4:
[75:55] No, no, go ahead, tell me about the Urie thing.
Speaker 5:
[75:56] The Urie thing was like, I understand his perspective, you know, that he did fuck up and he could have attacked and been smarter, but you can't have that excuse. He really was upset. You could tell he was upset right when Carlos Oberg's knee blew out. But here's the thing that impressed me the most.
Speaker 4:
[76:14] He's upset at him for fucking blowing his knee out. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 5:
[76:17] Well, he was upset at the moment, right? He wanted it to be a clean victory, right? But Carlos wasn't upset. That was what I was most impressed with. That guy never lost composure. He tried a switch kick, a jumping switch kick to the head.
Speaker 4:
[76:29] To see if it worked.
Speaker 5:
[76:30] And his leg fell out again and he fell down again and he was scrambled. But he never lost composure. He never showed anxiety in his face. Just a stone cold killer looking for his moment and he found it. Yup.
Speaker 4:
[76:44] CKB guys.
Speaker 5:
[76:45] That's a world champion. That's a world champion. That's how you really become a world champion. You have a blown out knee and you find a way to KO a guy who's this wild, aggressive, awkward dude. You know, and he's coming after you. You got a blown out knee and you just blink. Perfect fucking left hook.
Speaker 4:
[77:02] Those guys from the South Pacific are a different breed.
Speaker 5:
[77:06] Well, he certainly is. I mean, he's got a phenomenal camp.
Speaker 4:
[77:11] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The camp is unheard of.
Speaker 5:
[77:13] Yeah, the camp is phenomenal. Eugene Bearman, the guy who's the head coach, super fucking smart dude.
Speaker 4:
[77:19] I went down there in 2018. I went down there and I saw Izzy before the Bronson fight. And it was like in the old CKB and I had them come through and Eugene came out. I was DJing in New Zealand for an evening at my friend's restaurant and I had him come out.
Speaker 5:
[77:37] Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 4:
[77:37] Yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 5:
[77:38] Oh, that's cool. You were DJing at a restaurant?
Speaker 4:
[77:41] I was DJing. You know, I play all kinds of fucking weird, like 70s funk, African music, Brazilian music. I just happened to be down there and everyone came through. It was a good time.
Speaker 5:
[77:52] Oh, here's something that people are saying is real that's not, but I found out today. Everyone's saying that Hamza Chamayev and Gordon Ryan are going to wrestle. It's not true.
Speaker 4:
[78:00] RAF?
Speaker 5:
[78:00] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[78:01] I like RAF.
Speaker 5:
[78:02] I like RAF too.
Speaker 4:
[78:03] I like this. It's like something new and exciting.
Speaker 5:
[78:05] Sure.
Speaker 4:
[78:06] I don't particularly love the action. I like wrestling, but it's not as exciting as the entirety of the event. You understand? Right. The press conference, the people involved, the actual moves. I prefer fighting and just a different type of combat, but it still gets me going. I enjoy it a lot.
Speaker 5:
[78:30] Look, it's the most important skill in MMA.
Speaker 4:
[78:32] It's the most important skill, but I like when you mix it. I don't like it singularly more than anything else.
Speaker 5:
[78:38] I understand, but the reality is, in order to be at an elite level, you have to do it by itself. I think, for the most part. George St. Pierre might be an example of a guy who violates that law, because George didn't really wrestle in college or high school. He learned how to wrestle from a bunch of Russian nationals in Montreal.
Speaker 4:
[78:59] Well, that works also. If you didn't start wrestling when you're five years old, that's the other way to do it. Two or three years Dagestan, that's it, right? Two or three years Dagestan and forget it. I'm excited for Hamzat and Shawn Strickland, because it will be in Newark. I will be there.
Speaker 3:
[79:17] Yeah, for sure, dog.
Speaker 4:
[79:19] I'll be right there.
Speaker 3:
[79:20] I'll be there too.
Speaker 4:
[79:20] Yeah, you'll be there. The White House thing I'm excited for too. I want to ask to go, but I don't know if it seems like a lot of fucking hoopla. I might just watch it on TV.
Speaker 5:
[79:30] I would watch that on TV if I wasn't working there. I think the Strickland and Tom Zott fight is going to be very interesting. Strickland is not an easy guy to take down, and he's not an easy guy to hold down, and he's a very difficult guy to hit on his feet. He's got a super awkward style. His style is very clever. It's very different. It's not something that's easy to replicate in far as timing.
Speaker 4:
[79:55] He reminds me of B-Hop.
Speaker 5:
[79:57] A little bit, right?
Speaker 4:
[79:58] He reminds me of B-Hop, but just a little bit more, not sloppy, just a little bit more loose and wild.
Speaker 5:
[80:05] Yeah, loose and wild, and then also it's because he has other options, right? It's because he's kicking, it's because he's taking you down.
Speaker 3:
[80:11] His teeps, those front kicks are great.
Speaker 5:
[80:13] His teep off his front leg is phenomenal.
Speaker 4:
[80:15] He just throws good, straight punches, man. Just good, hard, straight punches.
Speaker 5:
[80:18] His fucking jab is so accurate. You know, people think of a jab as like, you know, it's not that big a deal. That guy thumps you in the face with a jab three, four times, you're kind of. Your nose is broken, bleeding, or it's at least bleeding.
Speaker 4:
[80:31] Well, there's three kinds of jabs. There's the soft one, then there's the stepping, the fucking hard jab, you know, he throws them all.
Speaker 5:
[80:37] Yeah, that guy, Azamat Mazurkhanov, he just lost to Paulo Costa, but that guy has one of the most evil jabs. He like steps forward and he like jab hooks at you.
Speaker 4:
[80:49] Yeah, he turns that bitch off, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[80:51] It's almost like a hook. And he knocked out, fuck, what is his name? Rockich, he knocked out Rockich with that one punch, stepped in with a jab.
Speaker 4:
[81:01] Rockich's chin went a couple fights ago, but you know.
Speaker 5:
[81:05] Rockich has been in some wars.
Speaker 4:
[81:07] He's been in some wars, but he's an animal.
Speaker 5:
[81:08] It was a good fight until that moment. But Mazurkanov, I was so impressed that he just wouldn't abandon that strategy of going after Paulo Costa.
Speaker 4:
[81:18] I mean, Paulo looked good. He looked phenomenal.
Speaker 5:
[81:22] If I was in his corner, I would say, dude, never go back to middleweight. You are a fucking light heavyweight champion. He is a light heavyweight champion. And while this guy, while Carlos Olberg, is going to be out for a year, because he is going to have to get ACL reconstruction, Paulo Costa could be the interim light heavyweight champion. Like, no doubt, man, I really think he could pull that off. Dude, at light heavyweight, he is fucking terrifying.
Speaker 4:
[81:47] He looks like the Paulo Costa of old.
Speaker 5:
[81:51] When he was destroying people, and he is way up to the ranks.
Speaker 4:
[81:53] That's what I am saying. To see him go from there, and then to have those little hiccups and shit like that, it almost seemed like he was a joke at one point. When Izzy humped him, it just made him look fucking so less than as a human being. When he is really just, I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[82:08] Izzy mind fucked him.
Speaker 4:
[82:09] Yeah, he fucking. He him over for a couple years, right?
Speaker 5:
[82:12] For a couple years. That's how crazy that fight was.
Speaker 4:
[82:14] He is just coming back now. The Luke Rockhold, I think, helped him. But even Luke almost fucking knocked him out.
Speaker 5:
[82:20] Bro, that was a great fight.
Speaker 4:
[82:22] Why you put that in Utah? Wasn't it in Utah?
Speaker 5:
[82:26] Right, high altitude. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 4:
[82:28] If that was somewhere else, I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[82:30] Well, it was a great fight.
Speaker 4:
[82:31] Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 5:
[82:32] And that was like Luke's last really great performance where he still looked like a world caliber fighter.
Speaker 4:
[82:38] For sure.
Speaker 5:
[82:38] But I think Hamzat against Azamat was the best Hamzat, excuse me, when I think Paulo Costa against Azamat was the best Paulo Costa I've seen in a long time. I mean, he looked better because he looked physically stronger. Like, being at light heavyweight didn't at all look like a stretch. In fact, he looked like a better place for him. Like, when I was listening to the sound of his punches and his kicks, it was even harder than before. He didn't look fat at all. He looked like a perfect light heavyweight. I think he's probably, at least at this stage in his life, because I think Paulo's like 34 now, it would be way better for him to compete at light heavyweight.
Speaker 3:
[83:14] And 34 is a perfect prime, right?
Speaker 5:
[83:17] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[83:17] At light heavyweight, 34 is almost prime.
Speaker 5:
[83:20] Yes.
Speaker 4:
[83:20] Like, at light heavyweight, that's a great age.
Speaker 5:
[83:22] Sure. Well, that was like when Izzy was on top of shit. He was around 34. John Jones was a little younger. Well, John Jones was the youngest champion in history. That's a different guy. But like when you look at Paulo Costa's performances and then you look at this last one, you're like, that might be the best Paulo Costa of all time. He looked fucking phenomenal. And he ate some big shots from Osamat and just didn't even flinch. Didn't even flinch.
Speaker 4:
[83:48] I can't even imagine how that man cuts to 185. It's truly unbelievable. That muscle mass that goes away, during that, it's just like weakens him. Fully depletes your body.
Speaker 5:
[83:58] Yeah, I think him at 205 is really the way to go. Because I guarantee you, he's probably walking around at about like 230 or something.
Speaker 4:
[84:04] He might even be a good fucking heavyweight, too. He'd throw him up there.
Speaker 5:
[84:07] He said if Derek Lewis falls out of the White House card, he'll step in and fight in a heavyweight.
Speaker 4:
[84:12] Well, it makes sense to fight Josh Hogan at that way, because they're both similar body types. I'm not similar.
Speaker 3:
[84:17] He's a lot more jacked. How dare you compare?
Speaker 4:
[84:21] I meant weight-wise. They're both around 240, but they look a lot different. A lot different.
Speaker 5:
[84:27] I don't know if Hogan's ready for that yet. That's crazy. Unless he could take Paulo down, he's gonna get... That's a...
Speaker 4:
[84:34] It's fun.
Speaker 5:
[84:35] It'll be fun, because he'll go after him. Kurtz Blades is very different than Paulo Costa. When it comes to striking, Paulo Costa's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 4:
[84:43] I've also shook... How do you say? Shooken? Shake?
Speaker 5:
[84:47] Shook his hand?
Speaker 4:
[84:47] I shook... Kurtz Blades' hand?
Speaker 5:
[84:52] Oh, the giant.
Speaker 4:
[84:52] It's fucking four times the size of a normal hand.
Speaker 5:
[84:55] Oh yeah, Kurtz Blades is a huge dude.
Speaker 4:
[84:56] To be punched by that hand that many times and to not go down is pretty impressive.
Speaker 5:
[85:00] Well, also impressive for Kurtz. Kurtz had a blown out eye socket, a broken nose.
Speaker 4:
[85:05] Kurtz is the man. I love Kurtz. He's a good dude.
Speaker 5:
[85:07] He's got incredible heart. Incredible heart. He just did not... After all that shit that Josh Hogan talked, he did not want to lose that man. He gave everything he had. There was not a moment of quit in that fight for Kurtz.
Speaker 4:
[85:20] Yeah, he could have scored it for him if he wanted.
Speaker 5:
[85:22] Well, I don't think so.
Speaker 4:
[85:23] You could not, but you could have.
Speaker 5:
[85:24] I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think that would be reasonable. But he certainly gave a great account of himself.
Speaker 4:
[85:29] Many things are unreasonable.
Speaker 5:
[85:31] Yeah, but that's not fair.
Speaker 4:
[85:32] That's egregious. It could be.
Speaker 5:
[85:33] He might have won a round. But the most important thing is like that guy, he gave it what he had. He gave it. He could be proud. He could be proud. That guy, there's no question at all. That guy left nothing. There was nothing left in the tank at the end of that third round. You know, and that's all you could ever ask.
Speaker 4:
[85:50] It's a fucking beautiful fight to watch, especially from heavyweights, man.
Speaker 5:
[85:53] But it makes me sad too because I'm like, boy, you can only do a few of those.
Speaker 4:
[85:57] That's probably the last one.
Speaker 5:
[85:58] I mean, I always go back to like, the Cain Velasquez Jr. Dos Santos ones.
Speaker 4:
[86:04] Nasty, nasty.
Speaker 5:
[86:05] Those were so hard to watch, man.
Speaker 4:
[86:07] It's nasty stuff.
Speaker 5:
[86:08] Because Cain just didn't get tired. Being in there with a guy like Cain who didn't get tired, you're constantly getting punched in the face, constantly. And it's just nothing but heart keeps you there until the fifth round.
Speaker 4:
[86:20] Cain, man. I just want to shake Cain's hand, give him a hug.
Speaker 5:
[86:25] He's out.
Speaker 4:
[86:25] Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5:
[86:26] We were trying to get him on the podcast before he went in, but the judge wouldn't allow it.
Speaker 4:
[86:30] Really?
Speaker 5:
[86:31] Yeah, I definitely have him on now, though. I love Cain. He's in my top. I don't think there's a goat, a real goat, in heavyweight, because I think there's times where one guy would have beaten all the other guys.
Speaker 4:
[86:43] Of course. Everyone had their moments, though.
Speaker 5:
[86:47] Yeah, he's in the goat category. For sure. I would say in heavyweight, there's a goat category. You got to put Stipe in there, because he defended the heavyweight title more than anybody. He beat Ingana when Ingana was in his fucking prime and got rocked a bunch of times.
Speaker 4:
[87:00] That was a crazy fight, too.
Speaker 5:
[87:01] Crazy fight. Crazy fight. Crazy fight. So you got to give it to him. He's always going to be in the goat category. Kane, Fador, of course. Fador is like the real connoisseur, the real hardcore and the mayheads. They're like, Fador is the goat.
Speaker 4:
[87:19] He's the one.
Speaker 5:
[87:20] I always say everybody forgets about Fabricio Verdun, because Fabricio Verdun tapped Kane Velasquez, Minotauro Noguera and Fador. He tapped Fador when Fador was Fador. Everybody looks at a guy when he lost a bunch of fights, where they didn't go so well for him. And later in his career, he's in his late 30s. When you look at Fabricio Verdun in his prime, he's in that range, man. He beat Kane Velasquez. He beat Mark Hunt with a flying knee to win the title.
Speaker 4:
[87:48] He has that resume. I mean, at that time, those are heavy hitters.
Speaker 5:
[87:52] Bro. I mean, he beat the best of the best. He beat them all. And he tapped three of the all-time greats. Those are Minotauro for sure when he was in Pride. He's in the goat category. But then you got to give it a little more. Like, Fedor is a notch above him because Fedor beat him and beat him with ground and pound. But then the other guys are Kane. And, you know, you always got to think, Kane, Prime Kane against anybody ever. Man, who knows? Prime Kane was just an unstoppable tornado of punches and takedowns and no tired, no fatigue. It's not coming. Like, you think he's going to get tired? He's never going to get tired. He's going to keep punching you in the face. Top tier wrestling. And fucking, Fabricio tapped him too.
Speaker 4:
[88:35] And he's Mexican.
Speaker 5:
[88:36] Yeah, and he's Mexican. A lot of Mexicans have great cardio, man.
Speaker 4:
[88:39] They have great cardio and unbelievable fucking heart and chin.
Speaker 5:
[88:43] I wonder if it's from high-altitude genetics. You know, like you were saying, like, living in it?
Speaker 4:
[88:48] It's genetics from warriors. It's warrior genetics. It's 100%.
Speaker 5:
[88:51] 100% for sure.
Speaker 4:
[88:52] Volkonovsky has the same thing. Just from a different type of, a different type of indigenous tribe, you know? The Macedonians and the crazy fucking, the up-in-the-mountain people that are 5'6, with hands like fucking...
Speaker 5:
[89:09] Marab.
Speaker 4:
[89:10] Oh my God.
Speaker 5:
[89:11] Marab, Duwavish Willie.
Speaker 4:
[89:11] Perfect example.
Speaker 5:
[89:13] Warrior genetics. 100%. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[89:15] That dude, I've never... A lot of these athletes, if they had, it's like if they had a little size, they'd be playing any professional sport.
Speaker 5:
[89:25] Right.
Speaker 4:
[89:25] You know?
Speaker 5:
[89:26] Oh yeah, for sure. Especially if you have the mental toughness to reach championship level.
Speaker 4:
[89:30] But I've also seen a lot of fighters can't throw a fucking baseball. Like a lot of fighters, they can't do anything else. Like, I grew up playing baseball. I could play every single sport because of the dexterity baseball showed me. I feel like baseball and basketball are the main sports to show the child early, to create dexterity.
Speaker 5:
[89:52] That's a good sport for competitive drive, too.
Speaker 4:
[89:54] And gymnastics. I've heard Khabib say that you keep your child in gymnastics till they're 10, then they could do martial arts. I'm following father's plan.
Speaker 5:
[90:02] Well, that's actually very smart because then you develop like crazy body control.
Speaker 4:
[90:06] Oh my God, I was fucking shredded. Six years old, shredded away, bro.
Speaker 5:
[90:11] Right, from gymnastics.
Speaker 4:
[90:12] I've never had an AB. Not even as a child. I've always had a fucking little bubba. I've always been a little bubba.
Speaker 5:
[90:22] Hey man, it's part of your charm.
Speaker 4:
[90:23] It is, it is part of my charm. If I was shredded, I wouldn't be as likable.
Speaker 5:
[90:27] You think so?
Speaker 4:
[90:28] Let's find out.
Speaker 5:
[90:28] Probably.
Speaker 4:
[90:29] Let's find out because I'll be fucking shirtless everywhere posing. They might not like that. Try this one.
Speaker 5:
[90:37] Yeah, this light has died out on me. Oh, I buy them new and they still die out quick.
Speaker 4:
[90:42] You gotta get you a torch.
Speaker 5:
[90:44] This is a, I mean, this is kind of a torch.
Speaker 4:
[90:46] That's like a mini, that's like a little mini. You gotta get you to shh, like a mini welder. The mini welding one works well. Underwater welding torches for the cigars.
Speaker 5:
[90:58] So this Hamzat and Strickland thing, to me it's gonna be, what can Hamzat do on the feet? Can he clip them? And can Strickland stop the takedown?
Speaker 4:
[91:08] I don't even, like, it's so hard to even think anybody could stop Hamzat right now at anything.
Speaker 5:
[91:15] It's true.
Speaker 4:
[91:16] It's like you're not even gonna get to throw hands at him. He's just gonna be smiling, laughing, everything's gonna take you down and manhandle you like no one's ever been manhandled before.
Speaker 5:
[91:25] His timing and his takedowns is fucking insane.
Speaker 4:
[91:28] It's crazy.
Speaker 5:
[91:28] It's so good.
Speaker 4:
[91:29] Watching the training, the speed, and he's like, it's equivalent to like Alan Iverson doing a crossover. He's doing it with that type of, like, flair.
Speaker 5:
[91:41] If I was gonna make an argument against it, I would say he's handling guys that don't have a big background in elite wrestling. Not like elite grapplers. The guy that he fought that wasn't an elite grappler gave him problems. No, Gilbert Burns for sure. But that was-
Speaker 4:
[91:56] Gilbert Burns fucked him up, too.
Speaker 5:
[91:57] He did. But that was like more stand up fucking him up.
Speaker 4:
[91:59] Yeah, but Gilbert Burns, if he took him down, like if-
Speaker 5:
[92:02] Gilbert can get back up to his feet.
Speaker 4:
[92:03] He's dangerous. He's one of the most elite players on the floor, right?
Speaker 5:
[92:06] Yes, especially back then. Gilbert just retired.
Speaker 4:
[92:09] Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5:
[92:09] Congratulations, Gilbert.
Speaker 4:
[92:11] Tremendous career.
Speaker 5:
[92:12] Tremendous. But they were banging it out, and Hamzah fought a completely different kind of fight. He tried to slug it out, and I think his ego got in the way because Gilbert clipped him a couple of times, dropped him, rocked him. Gilbert was a wild boy.
Speaker 4:
[92:25] I was fucking screaming during that one.
Speaker 5:
[92:27] In his prime, Gilbert was so fucking game. He was so dangerous, man. He knocks people out. So I was going to say Camaro, Camaro Usman, and that was a short notice fight that Camaro took at 185. Unbelievable fight. And in the third round, Camaro was winning. I was like, this would have been very interesting if it was a five round fight.
Speaker 4:
[92:47] I mean, it's hard to predict, but Camaro had the momentum, 18%.
Speaker 5:
[92:52] If it was a five round fight and if Camaro had a full camp, because you're taking a fight on that short notice like that, you don't trust in your wind like you would trust in your wind if you just went through 12 weeks of hell, where you just know you're in fucking tippy top.
Speaker 4:
[93:06] Was his knee barking also? I'm sure his knee's always barking.
Speaker 5:
[93:09] He's such a warrior. When he gets in there, he fights like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:
[93:12] I mean, they were in the wrestling positions for a while and he wasn't able to really do much. Well, he defended.
Speaker 5:
[93:20] Hamzah wasn't able to do anything to him.
Speaker 4:
[93:21] That's what I'm saying. It was like a stalemate kind of thing. They were just like there.
Speaker 5:
[93:24] Where with everybody else, Hamzah basically ragdolls them, mounts them, gets them down, submits them.
Speaker 4:
[93:30] It was like a fucking video game, like Rolling Thunder.
Speaker 5:
[93:32] That was crazy. And him and Kevin Holland had so many words before that too, so there was a lot of anger in that. That was crazy.
Speaker 4:
[93:41] That was a wild one.
Speaker 5:
[93:42] That was really crazy. And they had gotten some sort of an altercation before that at another event. So there was bad blood there. So it was like Hamzah just wanted to prove a point.
Speaker 4:
[93:51] You know, these guys aren't really playing. They play by a different set of rules coming from that block.
Speaker 5:
[93:58] Yeah, that's a war zone.
Speaker 4:
[93:59] That's a different block.
Speaker 5:
[94:00] It's a war zone, son. They're used to actual fights.
Speaker 4:
[94:03] For sure.
Speaker 3:
[94:03] Yeah, like to stay alive.
Speaker 4:
[94:05] Like, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[94:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah, scary shit, man. That's a fight though. That's a really interesting fight. We're going to know real soon, like early on in the fight, whether or not Strickland can avoid the takedown and whether or not Hamsad can hit him and whether or not he can avoid getting hit, because Strickland will set some traps. He's sneaky with his striking. Very clever. Very clever with his striking.
Speaker 4:
[94:26] I mean, also, Hamsad had the issue coming off of that, off of COVID. He had that long, long COVID where his lungs were fucked for a while.
Speaker 5:
[94:37] Well, you know what that was? He wouldn't stop training. So he got COVID and trained hard, like a fucking psychopath, all through COVID, to the point where he was getting bleeding out of his lungs.
Speaker 4:
[94:47] Oh, no fucking shit.
Speaker 5:
[94:48] He was coughing up blood. Apparently, he's an animal. They just can't keep him out of the gym. They just can't keep him out of the gym. And so he kept training while he had COVID. And it got real bad, to the point where he was hospitalized.
Speaker 4:
[95:01] That's a different type of level of being able to just, like, push past, like, physical sickness. Because COVID is fucked up.
Speaker 5:
[95:09] Push past to the point where you're almost dead. And you're still showing up doing rounds.
Speaker 4:
[95:14] I think I had mentioned this, but I was training with Plinyo and Pereira before the first Oncalaeophyte. And we got sick the same way.
Speaker 5:
[95:23] Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:
[95:24] Neuro. Everyone, like, I was sick.
Speaker 5:
[95:27] Neurovirus, right?
Speaker 4:
[95:28] Yeah, bro, I was fucking so sick. And he went and did the fight. Did the whole thing. He was as sick as me, apparently.
Speaker 1:
[95:34] Kayak gets my flight, hotel and rental car right, so I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong.
Speaker 7:
[95:41] Bro, Skycoin, way better than points. Never fly during a Scorpio full moon.
Speaker 2:
[95:47] Just tell the manager you'll sue. Instant room upgrade.
Speaker 1:
[95:51] Stop taking bad travel advice. Start comparing hundreds of sites with Kayak and get your trip right. Kayak, got that right.
Speaker 2:
[96:01] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a free night stay anywhere? Anywhere. What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris?
Speaker 1:
[96:09] Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby.
Speaker 2:
[96:11] Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum?
Speaker 1:
[96:15] Hilton Honors, baby.
Speaker 2:
[96:17] What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties?
Speaker 7:
[96:23] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. Book your spring break now.
Speaker 5:
[96:31] That was the first Oncoliath fight.
Speaker 4:
[96:32] The first Oncoliath fight. I fucking literally was knocked out for 10 days. And this motherfucker is training, traveling and fighting.
Speaker 5:
[96:41] With the Neurovirus.
Speaker 4:
[96:42] For the championship. And it wasn't a Pereira fight, but it was not horrible.
Speaker 5:
[96:48] No, it wasn't terrible. He lost. But then the second fight was like, holy shit.
Speaker 4:
[96:53] I see them training now, bro. He looks like a fucking behemoth. At 250?
Speaker 5:
[96:59] He's in 260s now. Holy shit. They weighed in at 263.
Speaker 4:
[97:03] Bro, him at 263 is scary.
Speaker 5:
[97:06] It's nuts. That guy fought at 185 just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4:
[97:11] This is his true body type. He's meant to be a cowboy. You know what I mean? He's like a fucking Brazilian cowboy.
Speaker 5:
[97:17] Amazon warrior jeans. Same shit we're talking about. That's what he is.
Speaker 4:
[97:21] It's the bone density stuff. It's not. It's true.
Speaker 5:
[97:24] Genetics.
Speaker 4:
[97:25] Indigene. You look at certain people and you see the past.
Speaker 5:
[97:31] Right.
Speaker 4:
[97:32] Warriors.
Speaker 3:
[97:33] Bro.
Speaker 5:
[97:36] When that song comes out?
Speaker 4:
[97:38] Chances were made to excite, to conjure up spirit. That's what he fucking does. He's conjuring up spirit. That's why Uri was so scared of the black man. He was going to shrink his head.
Speaker 5:
[97:53] Uri asked him in the second fight to not use spiritual warfare.
Speaker 4:
[97:57] So good. There's no movie that could write this type of script. I love this shit.
Speaker 5:
[98:05] Yeah. I felt bad for Uri, but I felt great for Carlos at the same time.
Speaker 4:
[98:09] I love that whole team. Ash and all those boys out there.
Speaker 5:
[98:14] Yeah, they're great guys.
Speaker 4:
[98:14] I like those guys.
Speaker 5:
[98:15] It's like, look, I get it. It's a hard pill to swallow. I get it. You did back off. I get it. But also, that guy just...
Speaker 4:
[98:23] You can only blame yourself on that one, man.
Speaker 5:
[98:24] He found a way to win. Found a way to win in the most spectacular way possible.
Speaker 4:
[98:29] That's the only thing that should really be spoken about is his will and his ability to fight through that. Bro, torn ACL, they're carting you off the fucking field.
Speaker 5:
[98:40] I know.
Speaker 4:
[98:41] Everyone's crying that their career is over in football, carting you off the field with your heads like that. This dude's fucking knocking homie out for the Light Heavyweight Championship of the World.
Speaker 5:
[98:50] crazy.
Speaker 4:
[98:51] So, to have that type of will in you, you could only just be mesmerized by that.
Speaker 5:
[98:57] I know. It's nuts, man. Think about it, like how many great fights are out there to be had, how many great fights have been had. I mean, those moments like that, that's like you can't... That's one of the things that makes a sport so exciting. Like, you couldn't have imagined that he would blow his knee out, and then you could have imagined that Yuri would pause and not know what to do, and then you couldn't have imagined that Carlos would knock him out.
Speaker 4:
[99:21] That's...
Speaker 5:
[99:22] Perfectly.
Speaker 4:
[99:23] Let me ask you something about the footing in the octagon. Did his foot slip? Was this slippery in there?
Speaker 5:
[99:29] I think it was just a placement issue.
Speaker 4:
[99:31] He placed it wrong and then...
Speaker 5:
[99:32] Yeah, sometimes in scrambles, you know, you're moving weird and...
Speaker 4:
[99:35] So, he over extend, did he miss the spot?
Speaker 5:
[99:37] It looks like it just blew out, man.
Speaker 3:
[99:39] Because that shit just...
Speaker 5:
[99:40] There's a video of Carlos blowing his knee out. And it looks like they're in the middle of a wild exchange. He moves his foot in a certain way and it just pops. And you could see it go up the back of his leg.
Speaker 3:
[99:52] It just snapped up.
Speaker 4:
[99:52] It was nasty.
Speaker 5:
[99:53] It's nasty. Yeah, it's horrible. And it's going to take a long time for that thing to be better again. But he won. He's a world champion. And then, Paolo Costa, Interim Chief. If I was the fucking captain of the ship, that's what I would do. I'd go, hey, Paolo, you're a fucking star. Maybe Yonkaleyev. I mean, I know that Pereira just knocked him out, but he deserves to be in it. So here it is. So he placed his leg weird and pushed off and it just blew out. See?
Speaker 4:
[100:23] It looked like he was on...
Speaker 5:
[100:24] Just a freak movement.
Speaker 4:
[100:25] He didn't step on the paw of the foot. He stepped more on the inside like that, like the angle of the step.
Speaker 5:
[100:33] Well, it was definitely weird because they're in the middle of a scramble, you know? But look at him.
Speaker 4:
[100:39] And look at his athleticism right there, the way he just spun off that and stayed on that left leg. Yeah, no, that's nasty.
Speaker 5:
[100:48] When that happens, your leg is just so unstable. The crazy thing is there's guys in the UFC...
Speaker 4:
[100:53] See how it's like...
Speaker 5:
[100:53] That fight with no ACL. They have no ACL and they fight in the UFC. I know Rafael dos Angles was doing that for a while. He had no ACL and he was fighting in the UFC.
Speaker 4:
[101:04] I mean, was that during his decline or was he...
Speaker 5:
[101:09] He was still pretty close to the top. He had lost the title, but he was still pretty close to the top. We were still fucking a lot of people up.
Speaker 4:
[101:16] He's another breed also.
Speaker 5:
[101:18] Well, that guy, the conditioning, that guy was sculpted. Dos Angles and his prime looked like somebody made him out of marble. He looked like he belonged at the Vatican, you know.
Speaker 4:
[101:29] Every time I tell people, I'm going to come see you, they always say, yo, can you ask him this? Can you ask him that? I started fielding questions for you.
Speaker 5:
[101:36] I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 4:
[101:38] For what?
Speaker 5:
[101:39] For you getting those questions.
Speaker 4:
[101:40] No, I like it.
Speaker 5:
[101:41] Oh, you do?
Speaker 4:
[101:41] I like it. Because they're so ridiculous.
Speaker 5:
[101:44] What's the most ridiculous one?
Speaker 4:
[101:45] I don't remember. It's all silly. But one good one is like, when are you going to have Mirko Krokop here?
Speaker 5:
[101:50] Oh, I actually talked to him. I was in Croatia.
Speaker 4:
[101:51] Because my boy lives in the same neighborhood as him that I train with, my boy Dean. He's literally a Croatian. He looks like fucking Mirko. Throws the leg, bald-headed fucking. He looks like he's driving BMW M5 for sure.
Speaker 5:
[102:10] I would definitely have Mirko on. He's a legend.
Speaker 4:
[102:12] Need to hear from him.
Speaker 5:
[102:13] Yeah, he's a legend and he's very funny. I've seen him in interviews before.
Speaker 4:
[102:17] I was wondering whether he spoke English or not, but he speaks pretty perfectly.
Speaker 5:
[102:21] Yeah, definitely good enough to have a conversation. I was watching Him Vs. Fador today.
Speaker 2:
[102:26] That was a crazy fight.
Speaker 5:
[102:28] I think that was like 2000. Look at that, man.
Speaker 6:
[102:31] Jacks.
Speaker 4:
[102:31] That's unbelievable right there.
Speaker 5:
[102:33] How old is Mirko now?
Speaker 4:
[102:36] That's a recent picture?
Speaker 6:
[102:37] Yeah, four days, three years ago.
Speaker 5:
[102:38] Dude's in phenomenal shape. I mean, he's gotta be 50. How old is Mirko now?
Speaker 4:
[102:43] That stuff doesn't go away when it's real, man.
Speaker 5:
[102:47] 51. Shredded. Shredded, son. Yeah, he was an animal. In his prime, boy, he was the first kickboxer to really start doing well in MMA because he was so explosive. See, a lot of the other guys, like Ernesto Hust or Peter Aerts, they were real technical, but they set things up.
Speaker 4:
[103:07] Slappers, for the most.
Speaker 5:
[103:09] They were setting things up.
Speaker 4:
[103:09] Setting it up, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[103:10] But with Mirko, he would just explode on you.
Speaker 4:
[103:15] explode your liver, explode your head with those fucking kicks, man.
Speaker 5:
[103:18] He was so fast and so explosive that when he entered into MMA, he had a kind of advantage. This is back when they let him fight with shoes on. Mirko with shoes on is a crazy proposition.
Speaker 4:
[103:28] That's nuts.
Speaker 6:
[103:30] I just, I've seen, I see a guy like this and I go, that's a giant.
Speaker 5:
[103:34] Yeah, he's a giant.
Speaker 6:
[103:35] But I mean, so-
Speaker 5:
[103:35] Hong Man Choi, he was like seven plus feet tall.
Speaker 6:
[103:37] So when you find a skeleton of a person like this- Oh, yeah. Yeah, giants are real.
Speaker 5:
[103:42] Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6:
[103:42] They're around now, too.
Speaker 5:
[103:43] Right, definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[103:45] But he doesn't look like he has gigantism.
Speaker 5:
[103:48] No, he does. He does look like he does.
Speaker 4:
[103:50] No, he does. But you know, like most of those guys are unathletic. Their knees are knocking.
Speaker 5:
[103:56] Right.
Speaker 4:
[103:56] Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. He doesn't seem unathletic.
Speaker 5:
[103:58] I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4:
[103:59] He has more of like, he looks like he's kind of on his toes.
Speaker 5:
[104:05] Moves well.
Speaker 4:
[104:05] Yeah, like his legs are working in the right way. He has proper athleticism.
Speaker 5:
[104:09] Well, there's another guy that beat Fedor, Bigfoot Silver.
Speaker 4:
[104:12] Yeah, but he looked like he had fucking a giant face.
Speaker 3:
[104:16] Yeah, he had it.
Speaker 6:
[104:17] NBA, Victor Wemba Nyama is doing...
Speaker 4:
[104:19] Again, Wemba Nyama's legs...
Speaker 5:
[104:21] 7'4, that's crazy.
Speaker 4:
[104:22] It doesn't look like he moves as well as he does.
Speaker 6:
[104:25] He's 22 years old.
Speaker 4:
[104:26] He's a fucking praying mantis, this kid.
Speaker 6:
[104:27] He shouldn't be able to do this stuff. He dribbles behind his back. He shoots threes.
Speaker 5:
[104:31] Bro, 7'4 is crazy.
Speaker 6:
[104:34] It's crazy.
Speaker 4:
[104:34] Do you watch the NBA though?
Speaker 5:
[104:35] Sometimes.
Speaker 4:
[104:36] All right. 7'4 is different when you weigh 190 pounds.
Speaker 6:
[104:40] Right.
Speaker 4:
[104:41] 7'4 like Rick Smits back in the day or dudes who have a little weight on them look different. This guy is-
Speaker 5:
[104:47] He's 235.
Speaker 4:
[104:48] But that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5:
[104:50] You don't believe that?
Speaker 6:
[104:51] He probably is.
Speaker 5:
[104:51] No, he's 235 but he's so big.
Speaker 6:
[104:54] He's still getting bigger too. He's got a little brother that's not even in the NBA yet.
Speaker 4:
[104:59] This kid is-
Speaker 5:
[105:01] He's what?
Speaker 6:
[105:01] He's maybe 16 or 17, his younger brother. And he's still growing his, I don't know, 6'10 now.
Speaker 4:
[105:06] This is ridiculous. This is the future right here of sports.
Speaker 5:
[105:09] Giant humans.
Speaker 4:
[105:10] Super humans.
Speaker 5:
[105:11] Right, so that, if you go back to the Bible-
Speaker 4:
[105:13] It's like Mutli football.
Speaker 6:
[105:14] There are giants. They're around.
Speaker 4:
[105:16] Giants are real.
Speaker 6:
[105:16] They've been around.
Speaker 5:
[105:17] Well, look at the guys in Iceland, like the mountain from David Trump all the time.
Speaker 4:
[105:21] My favorite people. John Paul Sigmason, one of my favorite strongmen of all time. All the Icelandic heroes.
Speaker 5:
[105:27] I know, right? All Vikings. Giant humans.
Speaker 4:
[105:30] Hafthor Bjornsson, he's the guy from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 5:
[105:34] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[105:35] Yeah, that's the mountain.
Speaker 4:
[105:37] Yeah, he's the mountain. But, bro, World's Strongman taught me about the world. It taught me about how to pronounce names.
Speaker 5:
[105:44] And yeah, like Magnus von Magnusson.
Speaker 4:
[105:48] Magnus Ver Magnusson. That's who it is. There's all Icelandic legends.
Speaker 5:
[105:53] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[105:54] Jean Paul Stigmason, Magnus Ver, Jani Virtonen and Jukka Hola from Finland. Like, bro, I have so many...
Speaker 5:
[106:00] There's so many genetics in that part of the world.
Speaker 4:
[106:02] Unreal.
Speaker 5:
[106:02] Vikings.
Speaker 4:
[106:03] Like Viking genetics.
Speaker 5:
[106:05] Yeah, but that's like, you want to know what a Viking looked like? That's what they looked like. Those guys showed up with a fucking gigantic boat filled with animals swinging swords. Just ready to kill everybody in your village. Fun.
Speaker 4:
[106:17] Swinging that fucking mace, swinging the hammer. May I have that, please?
Speaker 5:
[106:22] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[106:23] Yeah, man.
Speaker 5:
[106:24] I'm rewatching Game of Thrones. I'm on the final season now.
Speaker 4:
[106:28] I've never seen it.
Speaker 5:
[106:29] God damn, it's good.
Speaker 4:
[106:30] I need to. I've been watching Mobland.
Speaker 5:
[106:32] Good. That's great.
Speaker 4:
[106:33] Fucking...
Speaker 5:
[106:34] Tom Hardy kills it.
Speaker 4:
[106:35] I love Tom Hardy. That's my man.
Speaker 5:
[106:37] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[106:37] But fucking Pierce Brosnan.
Speaker 5:
[106:39] Kills it.
Speaker 4:
[106:40] Holy shit.
Speaker 5:
[106:41] Kills it. And what is the woman's name again? Helen Mirren?
Speaker 4:
[106:44] Oh, my boy.
Speaker 5:
[106:46] She's so good. She's so good.
Speaker 4:
[106:49] What a fucking legendary cast. I really like that show a lot.
Speaker 5:
[106:52] Yeah, that's amazing. That's Guy Ritchie.
Speaker 4:
[106:53] I'd like to be on it. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[106:54] Guy Ritchie's the man.
Speaker 4:
[106:55] He can find the part for me. I can't do an accent, but...
Speaker 5:
[106:58] You could learn. You can learn an accent, bro. Let's try it out right now. Try it out.
Speaker 4:
[107:03] Which one? Irish?
Speaker 5:
[107:03] From Liverpool.
Speaker 4:
[107:05] Oh, That's so sick.
Speaker 5:
[107:06] There you go. You're in.
Speaker 4:
[107:07] I've been there. I'm a schouser.
Speaker 5:
[107:09] You could do it, bro.
Speaker 4:
[107:09] You have to schouser.
Speaker 5:
[107:11] Just, you would live with Patty Pemblitt for like a week.
Speaker 4:
[107:14] Meatball Mali. I want to live with Mali.
Speaker 5:
[107:16] Live with Patty and Meatball Mali. They'll teach you how to talk schouser.
Speaker 4:
[107:19] And I want to box.
Speaker 5:
[107:21] There you go. Don't come out.
Speaker 4:
[107:22] I just want to throw hands. I just love fucking, like, I just want to, I love boxing.
Speaker 5:
[107:27] Do you, for real? For real.
Speaker 4:
[107:28] I love it. But remember how you were trying to show me how to throw a kick? I just stopped kicking.
Speaker 5:
[107:32] Yeah, you gave up?
Speaker 4:
[107:34] I'm not a kicker.
Speaker 5:
[107:35] You don't have to be.
Speaker 4:
[107:36] I'm not a kicker. I'm a choker. I'd like to be a choker.
Speaker 5:
[107:40] You could learn how to kick.
Speaker 4:
[107:41] I could.
Speaker 5:
[107:42] You could learn. You just got to learn how to stretch first.
Speaker 4:
[107:44] It's that leg thing, man. I'm scared to break my leg again.
Speaker 5:
[107:48] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[107:48] Because every time I kick in the wrong place, it feels like you hit the ball on the wrong part of the bat.
Speaker 5:
[107:54] When you broke your leg, did you have to get pins?
Speaker 4:
[107:56] Yeah, it broke in half. It broke in half, so I got the plate. But it was a clean break. It was good. It's better to get it shattered. Shattered, I would have been.
Speaker 5:
[108:06] Shattered is bad. Shattered is bad. So a clean break.
Speaker 4:
[108:09] It kind of made a bionic return.
Speaker 5:
[108:11] So it doesn't bother you now?
Speaker 4:
[108:12] No, nothing.
Speaker 5:
[108:13] Oh.
Speaker 4:
[108:14] No, it's strong, but if I kick it in the exact spot, I'll feel it.
Speaker 5:
[108:17] Right. Like if someone checks a kick on their knee or something like that, yikes. What part of your knee or your leg broke?
Speaker 4:
[108:24] I'm going to not disclose that, like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5:
[108:26] Look at you. You're hiding injuries. How did you break it?
Speaker 4:
[108:32] I fell. Literally slipped in the kitchen. I was making fucking two hamburgers and I was carrying them out and the homie was mopping at the same time. I was wearing the wrong shoe and I just slipped and it got caught behind me. Freak accident.
Speaker 5:
[108:46] You know, that happened is, what's his face, Piers Morgan. He fell and broke his hip. How did he get his hip replaced?
Speaker 4:
[108:53] That's the thing. He doesn't seem like he's in great shape. I was in fucking sick shape at the time. I was in, I was riding my bike every day. I was feeling good.
Speaker 5:
[109:01] How long ago did this happen?
Speaker 4:
[109:02] 2011.
Speaker 5:
[109:03] Damn.
Speaker 4:
[109:04] Oh no, 2010.
Speaker 5:
[109:08] So that's why you're worried about kicking? So don't kick anybody. Just work on the move.
Speaker 4:
[109:12] I like inside knee.
Speaker 5:
[109:14] There you go. That's a good move for you.
Speaker 4:
[109:15] Clinch knee.
Speaker 5:
[109:16] Yeah. It's all just about hip mobility. Just learn some hip mobility stuff. You know like ballerina bars?
Speaker 4:
[109:22] Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[109:23] Those are actually really good.
Speaker 4:
[109:24] I have one. I could do a good, I could get the leg up there.
Speaker 5:
[109:26] Ballerina bar is really good for swinging your leg. You like, you stand on your left leg and swing your right leg like this, and then up like that, and this, and like that. That's really good for like opening it up and getting the dexterity and strengthening up those supporting muscles.
Speaker 4:
[109:42] Or the flexors.
Speaker 5:
[109:45] Yeah. Everybody should have some leg and hip mobility. You should be able to throw a kick. It's not that hard, especially a low kick.
Speaker 4:
[109:52] No, I could throw it, but the accuracy and the devastation factor might not be there.
Speaker 3:
[110:00] You'll figure it out. You're a big guy.
Speaker 4:
[110:01] You're strong.
Speaker 5:
[110:02] You got a lot of horsepower back there. Come here, son.
Speaker 4:
[110:05] Come here, I'll fucking wrestle you.
Speaker 3:
[110:06] Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 5:
[110:07] You're getting excited.
Speaker 4:
[110:10] I train with Plino a lot. Really? Yeah, I train with him in Jersey. Just holds pads.
Speaker 5:
[110:16] I thought he was in Connecticut.
Speaker 3:
[110:17] Oh, his place is in Jersey.
Speaker 4:
[110:19] Glover's in Connecticut, but everyone's pretty close.
Speaker 5:
[110:22] What part of Jersey is Plino in?
Speaker 4:
[110:23] In Nutley.
Speaker 5:
[110:24] Oh, nice.
Speaker 4:
[110:25] Right there, like 50 minutes from me.
Speaker 5:
[110:28] That's great. That's great.
Speaker 4:
[110:29] Gives me good work.
Speaker 5:
[110:31] He's a good dude, too.
Speaker 4:
[110:32] I love him.
Speaker 5:
[110:32] And great coach.
Speaker 4:
[110:34] And I was going to say, he spends time with me and teaches me fighting, not boxing. Show me how to fight. Right. Like things Alex would do.
Speaker 5:
[110:43] It's probably a good thing for you, too, to have something that takes your mind off all the other shit you do.
Speaker 4:
[110:47] It's one of my favorite things.
Speaker 5:
[110:48] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[110:49] The thing is that one thing takes my mind off the next. This takes my mind off of that thing, that takes my mind off of that. So it's like a constant therapy that I'm giving myself. Because I'm getting burnt out here. Oh, let's turn to this. Now that's stopping me from doing that. Now we'll get burnt out there, go to the next thing. Right. I'm just a seasonal person. I like doing things when I'm like, when I feel them.
Speaker 5:
[111:12] I know what you mean.
Speaker 4:
[111:13] Yeah. I don't want to be forced.
Speaker 5:
[111:17] Maybe you'll start golfing soon.
Speaker 4:
[111:19] That's fucking not for me.
Speaker 5:
[111:20] Really?
Speaker 4:
[111:21] I'm really good. Look at me.
Speaker 5:
[111:24] I'm really good.
Speaker 4:
[111:25] Pitch and putt, I'm a fucking pro.
Speaker 5:
[111:27] You're a good mini golfer?
Speaker 4:
[111:29] Pitch and putt, no, mini golfer, I'm not that good.
Speaker 5:
[111:31] What's the difference?
Speaker 4:
[111:32] Pitch and putt is like everything except driving. It's like a city game, you have it at the park. But there's a good 70 yard, what's the wedge?
Speaker 5:
[111:45] Okay, it's just not long drives.
Speaker 4:
[111:46] It's no drives.
Speaker 5:
[111:47] Got it.
Speaker 4:
[111:47] So I'm pretty good.
Speaker 5:
[111:49] So every golf game starts off with a long, I'm totally ignorant.
Speaker 4:
[111:52] Me too, every game starts with a drive from the beginning.
Speaker 5:
[111:55] Is that true?
Speaker 6:
[111:56] Mostly, 14, it should be two par threes per side. Every course isn't the same, but it's like average. Two par threes per side, two par fives per side, and the rest are par fours.
Speaker 5:
[112:07] And do you always open with like a long shot? Is that the thing?
Speaker 4:
[112:11] Isn't that like T&L?
Speaker 6:
[112:12] How you play the course is supposed to be up to you. You should, I mean, ideally, you want to get as far...
Speaker 4:
[112:17] How would they play in PGA?...
Speaker 6:
[112:18] than one swing as possible, so you have...
Speaker 5:
[112:21] Less strokes.
Speaker 4:
[112:22] How does the Masters start?
Speaker 6:
[112:24] Yeah, I mean, they're...
Speaker 4:
[112:24] That's how I'm starting. How they start in Augusta, Shinnecock. I want to play all these... I just want to smoke hash on the golf courses and chill while other people play.
Speaker 5:
[112:38] That's what you want to do? That's doable.
Speaker 4:
[112:41] I think we could do that.
Speaker 5:
[112:42] I think that's very attainable.
Speaker 4:
[112:43] I want to do it once. I don't want to follow them. What, Jamie?
Speaker 6:
[112:46] It sounds like we might have a show.
Speaker 3:
[112:49] Right, well, you already did that with H&L.
Speaker 4:
[112:51] Bro, how do we bring this back? Were you fucking producing it?
Speaker 5:
[112:54] I was just talking about it yesterday.
Speaker 4:
[112:56] Can you produce this for me? I don't need to put you on the spot. Can you be the executive producer?
Speaker 5:
[113:04] Well, where would we do it?
Speaker 4:
[113:05] It really doesn't take much.
Speaker 5:
[113:06] Where did you do it before? You did it at Vice?
Speaker 4:
[113:09] We did it in a fucking rented studio with green screen.
Speaker 5:
[113:11] That's where Vice went bad. Well, they should have kept you around. They fucked up.
Speaker 4:
[113:16] They fucked everything up.
Speaker 5:
[113:17] They had you, they had Eddie Wong, they had a bunch of dope shows. I did Eddie Wong's show. We went and did yoga together.
Speaker 4:
[113:23] Seriously?
Speaker 5:
[113:24] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[113:24] Yo, bro, I don't even want to tell you what I'm about to do.
Speaker 5:
[113:26] I love Eddie.
Speaker 4:
[113:27] He's a good kid. Fucking, I'm about to do Tybo with Billy Blanks.
Speaker 5:
[113:32] Now? Like today?
Speaker 4:
[113:34] Like.
Speaker 5:
[113:35] You're about to do it?
Speaker 4:
[113:36] Thursday.
Speaker 5:
[113:37] Really?
Speaker 4:
[113:38] Me, Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks.
Speaker 5:
[113:40] Oh boy. Oh boy.
Speaker 4:
[113:43] I'm gonna tell you here first. I went on Wheel of Fortune.
Speaker 5:
[113:47] Did you?
Speaker 4:
[113:48] I did.
Speaker 5:
[113:48] How'd you do?
Speaker 4:
[113:49] I can't tell you yet, but just let me tell you, I dominated. I can't tell anyone yet, but I dominated.
Speaker 5:
[113:56] I think he just told us.
Speaker 4:
[113:57] Let me just tell you something, bro. I'm sorry if this is gonna ruin anything, but for sake, I dominated.
Speaker 5:
[114:03] Nice. Beautiful.
Speaker 4:
[114:05] That's what I mean. I'm looking for Jeopardy, to be honest. I'm better at Jeopardy.
Speaker 5:
[114:08] And so why are you going and doing Tybo with Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks?
Speaker 4:
[114:13] Because they took a liking to, Ryan took a liking to me, and now he wants to do something else.
Speaker 5:
[114:17] Oh, so you guys filming this?
Speaker 4:
[114:19] Yeah, we're gonna film me and Ryan doing Tybo with Billy Blanks. But for me, Billy Blanks, the last Boy Scout, the first scene.
Speaker 5:
[114:26] That's right.
Speaker 4:
[114:27] That's what I know him for. That's my shit.
Speaker 5:
[114:29] That's right.
Speaker 4:
[114:30] Ain't life a bitch? That's right.
Speaker 3:
[114:33] I forgot about that.
Speaker 4:
[114:35] It's one of my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 5:
[114:36] Well, Damon Waynes is one of my favorite comics of all time.
Speaker 4:
[114:39] Damon Waynes is a fucking underrated comic.
Speaker 5:
[114:42] Underrated comic and underrated action star. He was great in that fucking movie too.
Speaker 4:
[114:45] Bulletproof with Adam Sandler. I used to love Damon Waynes.
Speaker 5:
[114:48] Major Pain.
Speaker 4:
[114:49] Oh my God. He had a run. What about his brother in Fucking Low Down Dirty Shame? That was a good action movie too. Keenan? Yeah. Who knew Keenan Ivory Waynes was a fucking action hero?
Speaker 5:
[114:59] Keenan is a cool guy.
Speaker 4:
[115:00] I'm a get you sucker.
Speaker 5:
[115:01] That's right.
Speaker 4:
[115:02] Come on.
Speaker 5:
[115:02] That's right.
Speaker 4:
[115:04] He died from over, he over gold. He had too much gold.
Speaker 5:
[115:10] Wasn't there a guy who had like goldfish tanks for his platform shoes?
Speaker 4:
[115:14] Yes, of course. That was the poop. You imagine a dude like that shooting fish tanks for platforms? In Living Color changed my life. That shit changed my life.
Speaker 5:
[115:26] Hey, I just read something. I should probably call Dave and ask him. But I just read something where they're thinking about bringing back the Chappelle show.
Speaker 6:
[115:31] He gave a speech. So Eddie Murphy got another award this week, I think AFI or something. And Dave was on stage speaking. And he said he was talking with Eddie about it. And Eddie sort of like pushed him. But then during the speech, he sort of said, all right, if you want to do it. I think they actually even said maybe a movie, like a Chappelle show movie.
Speaker 5:
[115:50] Oh, OK.
Speaker 6:
[115:51] An actual show. But he's like, he kind of said, Eddie, if you do Charlie's parts, let's do it.
Speaker 5:
[115:56] Oh, that would be incredible.
Speaker 6:
[115:58] Yeah. Because he kind of doesn't want to do it without Charlie.
Speaker 5:
[116:01] Oh, that would be incredible. That would be incredible.
Speaker 4:
[116:05] Sign me up.
Speaker 5:
[116:06] I signed Eddie and Charlie on vacation once. It was totally random. In Hawaii.
Speaker 4:
[116:10] Really?
Speaker 5:
[116:10] Yeah. I was at the counter getting my key for the room, and Charlie's cousin was there. I was like, what are you doing? What's going on, man? What are you doing here? He's like, Charlie's here with Eddie. Come say hi. I went over. I had lunch with Charlie and Eddie. I was just sitting there talking to him. I'm like, this is crazy.
Speaker 4:
[116:29] That's crazy.
Speaker 5:
[116:29] It was crazy.
Speaker 4:
[116:30] Where we stay? Moana Surf Club?
Speaker 5:
[116:32] No. Four Seasons. Four Seasons in Maui.
Speaker 4:
[116:34] Oh, yes.
Speaker 5:
[116:35] Beautiful place. Beautiful place. I was just talking to Eddie Murphy. I was like, what? Am I really talking to Eddie Murphy? It was so weird.
Speaker 4:
[116:43] That's psychedelic right there.
Speaker 5:
[116:44] It was cool. He's really cool. It was really fun.
Speaker 4:
[116:47] I met Martin, Martin Lawrence, who was like, my grandparents learned English from this man. My Albanian grandparents would watch Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy and Martin. So, you know, and I did the thing with Wheel of Fortune, and then I went to the Knicks game versus the Lakers. I said, fuck it, I'm getting myself a ticket. And as I walk in, this fucking Martin Lawrence right there, I almost, I literally, I've never done this to another man. I shook his hand. I went into his ear. I was like, yo bro, you don't know how much this means to me, man. You don't know. Yo bro, I was just talking to him. I was like whispering in his ear how much it meant to be.
Speaker 5:
[117:25] He fanboyed out.
Speaker 4:
[117:26] Yeah, I fanboyed the fuck. I don't care. I don't care. I did it.
Speaker 5:
[117:31] Dude, I saw Martin Lawrence in his prime at the Comedy Store in the 90s.
Speaker 4:
[117:35] I would have died to see that.
Speaker 5:
[117:38] There's another guy that people sleep on.
Speaker 4:
[117:40] My favorite.
Speaker 5:
[117:41] He's one of the best comics ever. When he was in his prime, he would fucking destroy. I would have to follow him. It was hell. I bombed so many times. Mitzi Shore, that lady right there, if you were coming up, one of the things that she would do is young comics. She thought of it as any promise at all. She'd put them on after Monsters.
Speaker 4:
[118:00] Put you out right after A Legend.
Speaker 5:
[118:02] Yep. That's your spot. Right on after The Killer.
Speaker 3:
[118:04] Good luck. Good luck, I like that.
Speaker 5:
[118:10] Yeah, man.
Speaker 4:
[118:11] Shows you what kind of shots you got.
Speaker 5:
[118:12] She knew what she was doing. She's the most important figure in comedy outside of comedians, for sure. She's number one. She knew. She knew what she was doing. Even with her son. I mean, she didn't even give Pauly a break. Pauly had to earn it himself, too. That's how she, you know, she knew. She knew like how, what was the best environment to create comedy.
Speaker 4:
[118:34] So Pauly Shore was a stand up first? I didn't even realize that.
Speaker 5:
[118:38] Oh, yeah. Pauly's been a stand up forever.
Speaker 4:
[118:40] I just knew, I just, when I was young, like he was like in movies and shit that I liked. He was like that actor. Where's it at?
Speaker 3:
[118:48] Um, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[118:50] Well, he started stand up. I mean, he used to get baby sat by Sam Kenison.
Speaker 4:
[118:54] Oh, my God. You got to be a fucking funny guy after that one. Could that be my babysitter?
Speaker 5:
[119:00] There's some things you don't want to learn when you're that young.
Speaker 4:
[119:03] I mean...
Speaker 5:
[119:04] You don't want to learn from Sam.
Speaker 4:
[119:06] I kind of do. I kind of...
Speaker 3:
[119:10] I don't know.
Speaker 4:
[119:10] I had some pretty fucking... some interesting characters raise me also.
Speaker 5:
[119:14] I'm just so glad that the comedy store is still around.
Speaker 3:
[119:17] I was really worried about them during the pandemic when they were closed for like a fucking year. The whole thing was so insane.
Speaker 5:
[119:23] It took so long for LA allowed them to open up.
Speaker 4:
[119:26] Can I ask you something honestly?
Speaker 5:
[119:28] No.
Speaker 4:
[119:28] All right. The comics of today, do you find them, just because we've aged a little bit and we find different things, do you find them as funny as you found people that you looked up to, like your elders? Do you find these younger guys funny? Can you vibe with it?
Speaker 5:
[119:49] Yeah, I definitely could vibe with it. As far as like...
Speaker 4:
[119:53] Do they make you cackle the way these other guys do?
Speaker 5:
[119:55] Yeah, for sure. It depends on who you're watching.
Speaker 4:
[119:57] You know who I like? I like Stavi.
Speaker 1:
[120:00] Oh yeah, Stavros is hilarious.
Speaker 2:
[120:01] Stavros is...
Speaker 1:
[120:02] Stavros is hilarious. There's more funny comics now, I think, than ever.
Speaker 2:
[120:06] Really?
Speaker 1:
[120:07] Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's a really good time for up and coming people, new people. There's a lot of excitement about comedy. And then there's Kill Tony, which is this awesome platform for them. So there's so many people that are getting...
Speaker 2:
[120:19] Were you doing that last night?
Speaker 1:
[120:21] No, I wasn't there last night.
Speaker 2:
[120:22] Because I drove by the mothership, and it was fucking cranking.
Speaker 1:
[120:26] Yeah, that was Kill Tony night. I wasn't there last night, but Ari Shafir was there. Luis J. Gomez was there. So it was a great, great set up. And it's always a good show. It's always a fun show. And that gives people a legit opportunity to get on stage, and either to get on YouTube, or to get on Netflix in front of the whole fucking world. And it could make your career. It could make your life. It could change everything.
Speaker 2:
[120:50] It's not like a voice type of vibe. It's more of like a fucking real show, and then just people see you there. It's not like a competition.
Speaker 1:
[120:59] No, no, no. There's no competition. But you do get one minute, and if you do well, Tony invites you back. Yeah, not judged, but you get feedback from the comics, or everybody's just fucking around. It's all very loose and open.
Speaker 2:
[121:11] Showtime at the Apollo, you get yanked.
Speaker 1:
[121:14] No, you don't get yanked. You get your one minute. And if you suck, Tony roasts you. But sometimes the people that suck, they know they suck, and they're really funny, talking about how they sucked. It's just a great show. But it's just an opportunity where comedians see there's a path. All I have to do is keep doing open mics, put together an act, start getting a little road work, do Kill Tony, and then next thing you know, I'm headlining, on the road, like all these other guys that have become regulars on the show.
Speaker 2:
[121:42] There's a clear path, too.
Speaker 1:
[121:42] Yeah, you can really make a living and have a real career in comedy. So because of that, comedy is really exciting right now. And because of YouTube, because you can put your special, just you don't need...
Speaker 2:
[121:54] You don't need big guys, you put it right up.
Speaker 1:
[121:55] You don't need anything. Just upload it onto YouTube, next thing you know, it's got a million views. Holy shit, you're off and running. And then people could, the best thing about YouTube is people could share it. You could see a funny comedy special, oh shit, you got to watch this. You sent it to me, I'm like, ah, and then I'll send it to him. And that's how things happen. It's like that never existed before. So that paves the way for more comics to be encouraged to try it. Because there's an, if you got a work ethic and you're willing to do it, there's an actual path to having a career.
Speaker 2:
[122:24] Yeah, because before it was like a little bit like luck, you had to meet the right person. And now there's like getting to the major leagues. You go through the minors, you go through here, you're clear.
Speaker 1:
[122:34] What's the pathway for rappers?
Speaker 2:
[122:37] I don't know. There's really none. Nowadays, I believe it's all the same thing. You just choose your own path.
Speaker 1:
[122:44] Just become mayor.
Speaker 2:
[122:45] Yeah. You fucking kidding me? I'd love to do that. The mayor, if I could be the mayor.
Speaker 3:
[122:50] Yeah, you could be the mayor.
Speaker 2:
[122:51] Just someone got to feed me some political situations. Good things only. I don't want to do anything bad. No, but the path to being a rapper, there's really... First off, you have to be just nice. You have to be good. You shouldn't be doing it if you suck. And your friend should tell you, yo, listen, this is not for you. Let's step away from this and do something else.
Speaker 1:
[123:12] Right.
Speaker 2:
[123:13] You have to have good people around you. I had a lot of people around me that are fucking straight-up haters. Very raw-deal people, and no one told me to stop.
Speaker 1:
[123:21] Of course.
Speaker 2:
[123:22] And that inspired me to keep going. And honestly, you have to have it within you. You either have it or you don't. I've been around here now 16 years, and I've seen a lot of fucking people come and go. But I've been a constant, and I don't even think I've peaked in any area of life yet. Truly. I feel like I'm on the brink of, I'm always on the brink of a new exploration, a new breakthrough. And that's how I take things, because I don't want to be stagnant. I look older. I'm visibly grizzled. I'm visibly Sean Connery'd. But because I started later, you didn't see me as a 15 year old kid jumping around. I came in as a 27 year old man. So you've seen me throughout the years. I've just now, I'm more of a man. So I didn't start as a little baby face, you know? A lot of these kids, you see them 16 years later, they look the exact same because you saw them at 13. Not me.
Speaker 1:
[124:27] Right. I feel you.
Speaker 2:
[124:28] You know?
Speaker 1:
[124:30] Well, that's a great attitude anyway. If you're just continuing to improve at something, that's a great way to live life.
Speaker 2:
[124:35] I just like learning, man. I love new experiences. I want to fucking like, I'm just finding new things that I love every single day of life.
Speaker 1:
[124:43] That's awesome.
Speaker 2:
[124:44] Truthfully, man, I got, I feel blessed and special to have those type of outlets where I don't have to like, search for shit and things just like, hobbies fall in my lap. They do because I really am a connoisseur of many things in life that I love.
Speaker 1:
[125:01] What other hobbies do you like?
Speaker 2:
[125:03] Like I said, I love gardening. I love overlanding now. I want to take my truck everywhere now.
Speaker 1:
[125:10] What kind of truck you got?
Speaker 2:
[125:10] I got a Sequoia. Brand new, 26. It was the best purchase I've ever made in my life.
Speaker 1:
[125:16] They never break.
Speaker 2:
[125:17] They never break. And New York was so fucking heavy duty. I was like in war mode. There was nothing stopping me.
Speaker 1:
[125:24] Right. Four wheel drive.
Speaker 2:
[125:26] 800 wheel drive, that car guy. It got power like you can't believe. It's perfect.
Speaker 1:
[125:31] Toyotas are hard to go wrong. Hard to go wrong with a Toyota.
Speaker 2:
[125:34] I love Toyotas. I had Jeeps for a while. But I started. My mother had the 83 Toyota Celica. That was our first car. We called it Brownie. It got us everywhere. Then we made the change to the 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee Forest Green. We had that for a long time until we got the Hyundai Sonata that I got stolen by accident. You know, it was the morning before. That was the night before the Brett Favre jet experiment that was going to happen. You know, he went to the jets. I went to the store in my underwear. Then I always do them up the block from my house. I bought a Vanilla Dutch and a Set For Life. And two fucking kids jumped in the car and just dipped.
Speaker 1:
[126:14] Oh no.
Speaker 2:
[126:15] So.
Speaker 1:
[126:16] And you were in your underwear?
Speaker 2:
[126:17] I was in my underwear. I had to, I had to make the police report in underwear. Why are you in underwear? First off, that was the first question. Why are you in underwear? That's a good question.
Speaker 1:
[126:25] That's a solid question.
Speaker 2:
[126:26] I said, should I take them off? You want me to take them off? What are you crazy?
Speaker 1:
[126:30] It does make the situation weirder.
Speaker 2:
[126:32] It makes it all weirder. Why I left with underwear on only. It was hot out.
Speaker 1:
[126:37] I wouldn't advise that.
Speaker 2:
[126:38] No, don't do that. Even if you're going to your local store.
Speaker 1:
[126:42] Did you do things to this Sequoia? Did you put a lift on it? What did you do?
Speaker 2:
[126:47] I put the lift on it.
Speaker 1:
[126:47] Did you change the tires?
Speaker 2:
[126:49] Yeah, some 35s, some Toyos. Oh shit, look at you. I went nuts. I got the crazy rack.
Speaker 1:
[126:54] Yeah, you got a roof rack, the whole deal?
Speaker 2:
[126:56] I even got a roof rack.
Speaker 1:
[126:58] Nice.
Speaker 2:
[127:00] No, but I'm trying to throw the Dobson's kit on there, so it's really lifted. I want to do like a Dakar rally vibe.
Speaker 1:
[127:08] Okay, so do you want to take this and just go out into the woods and camp out for a while?
Speaker 2:
[127:12] I want to do that too, but I want to drive to the unknown. Drive over weird shit?
Speaker 1:
[127:17] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[127:18] There's a trip that these guys... It's probably not. It's not the move. It's too big. It's too burly.
Speaker 1:
[127:24] Old land cruisers are the move. Like 80 series land cruisers.
Speaker 2:
[127:27] I need something that's a little bit more mobile. You're right. I've been looking to go maybe Mitsubishi Pajero, right hand drive or...
Speaker 1:
[127:37] You know what's real good is the Lexus GX.
Speaker 2:
[127:41] Oh, that's the one.
Speaker 1:
[127:41] Yeah, a little smaller.
Speaker 2:
[127:43] Comfort. Comfort.
Speaker 1:
[127:45] But also a lot of dudes take those and put lifts on them, and there's a lot of aftermarket stuff available for them. Because they're so luxury. And they're so fucking reliable.
Speaker 2:
[127:54] That's that Toyota motor.
Speaker 1:
[127:55] Yeah, you can't go wrong with Toyotas.
Speaker 2:
[127:56] Bro, I'm trying to yell Toyota. Holler at me. Come on. I'm the perfect...
Speaker 1:
[128:00] Holler at him. Toyota. Yeah, I have a 95 Land Cruiser. Yeah, I love those things.
Speaker 2:
[128:07] Champagne? What color?
Speaker 1:
[128:08] No, it's silver. Silver. It's Lexus Atomic Silver. I had it painted.
Speaker 2:
[128:12] Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:
[128:14] Yeah, it's dope.
Speaker 2:
[128:15] She gets me crazy.
Speaker 1:
[128:16] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[128:16] And that fucking thing you got the Raptor, the Hennessy.
Speaker 1:
[128:19] Oh, yeah, I got that too.
Speaker 2:
[128:20] More than the Hennessy. What is it, the fucking VSOP?
Speaker 1:
[128:23] No, it's the Hennessy. It's the Hennessy 1000. So they take a Raptor R and turn it into a 1000-horsepower pickup truck. It's ridiculous. Totally necessary.
Speaker 2:
[128:32] It's 100 percent. Do you overland here?
Speaker 1:
[128:35] No.
Speaker 2:
[128:36] Just fucking drive the streets.
Speaker 1:
[128:37] Yeah. Well, I've taken it out to ranches before, though. I've taken it out.
Speaker 2:
[128:41] You need that vehicle for the ranch.
Speaker 1:
[128:42] It helps. It definitely helps when you're getting over stuff. Those things, they have so much wheel travel. Those Raptors, they're so good, especially the Hennessy, because it's even more lifted. It's so good at articulating over spaces.
Speaker 2:
[128:53] You're saying the independent arms?
Speaker 1:
[128:56] Well, the suspension is designed to be pliable, right? It's like when you're going over fucked up ground, it moves with it.
Speaker 2:
[129:03] One tire will be up here, the other one will be there.
Speaker 1:
[129:05] The old Land Cruisers is that they all had solid axles, front and rear. That's like a real hardcore off-roading vehicle. You know, the solid axles are just so durable. And because it turns like the... You've seen like guys going overlanding with Land Cruisers, where they have like the crazy wheel travel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[129:27] With the rocks, where they're going over like...
Speaker 1:
[129:29] Dudes get obsessed with those weird trails, like just getting up them.
Speaker 2:
[129:32] I'm starting to be. I'm just... The burn is there. I'm just... Little by little, soon you'll see me in fucking Moab going crazy through the rocks. For real.
Speaker 1:
[129:44] She got a jeep. Jeeps are really good for that.
Speaker 4:
[129:47] They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a reasons. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat a Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's.
Speaker 1:
[130:02] Because they're real small. They're not very big, you know, a two-door Jeep or a four-door Jeep. They're real small, easy to move, a lot of fucking stuff that you can get put on them. A lot of aftermarket stuff for jeeps.
Speaker 2:
[130:13] How much fun is that to put shit on things? Oh, so fun. Like to fucking soup things up.
Speaker 1:
[130:17] So exciting.
Speaker 2:
[130:20] I'm working on an 87 M6 right now that I've had just sitting there in my garage for 12 years. About to give it a new life.
Speaker 1:
[130:27] What are you going to do to it?
Speaker 2:
[130:28] Baja.
Speaker 1:
[130:29] Really?
Speaker 2:
[130:29] Making it a rally car, lifting it.
Speaker 1:
[130:31] Holy shit.
Speaker 2:
[130:32] Big wheels.
Speaker 3:
[130:34] Really?
Speaker 2:
[130:35] I'm done dropping things. I'm only lifting things now.
Speaker 3:
[130:38] Wow.
Speaker 2:
[130:39] I've dropped every fucking BMW I've ever had to the ground. We're just scraping.
Speaker 1:
[130:43] You're subconsciously preparing for the end of civilization.
Speaker 2:
[130:45] Bro, I think so.
Speaker 1:
[130:46] We're going to have to go off the roads.
Speaker 2:
[130:47] I got the Japanese GI Joe truck. I'm prepping everything.
Speaker 1:
[130:53] Yeah. You have an apocalypse vehicle. Yeah. I recommend those. You should get one. When things go sideways, you got to have something that can go away from the road. Because if you're stuck in a Ferrari and you're on the highway, you're stuck, you're stuck.
Speaker 2:
[131:06] I can't even get in the fucking thing right now. I could, but it wouldn't be as good.
Speaker 1:
[131:09] It sucks. It's not as fun.
Speaker 2:
[131:10] It's those seats that hug your ass. I don't want anyone hugging my ass.
Speaker 1:
[131:15] A little tying guy with a cigarette made.
Speaker 2:
[131:16] Exactly. Fucking with his legs crossed in the car.
Speaker 1:
[131:18] Like this. Like the real deep bend.
Speaker 2:
[131:21] Bro, who could cross their legs with the deep bend? My nuts don't allow that. It's a European thing.
Speaker 1:
[131:28] Arch fear does it. He sits like that.
Speaker 2:
[131:30] Ask him about his nuts. What do they do when that happens?
Speaker 1:
[131:34] Tucks them in there somewhere. They go in the space. The gap. The gap between the two legs.
Speaker 2:
[131:41] That's a crazy way to sit for your own subconscious to know that's how you're sitting. That your shit's tucked.
Speaker 1:
[131:46] You're crushing nuts. I can't do it. Well, you and I both have tree trunk legs.
Speaker 2:
[131:50] Yeah, no, it's true. There's no way.
Speaker 1:
[131:52] It won't work like that. It doesn't go over there like that.
Speaker 2:
[131:55] I could barely do a little cross at the ankle.
Speaker 1:
[131:57] Adam Corolla talks about this. He's like, it's a thing that liberals do to let you know that they think the way you think.
Speaker 2:
[132:04] To sit like that is unreal.
Speaker 1:
[132:06] It's like they've got this cross. Like, well, it's like a feminine expression. I'm not threatening. I'm basically progressive, you know. I've got the legs in the proper position.
Speaker 2:
[132:17] Yeah, it's letting you know. It's all body language.
Speaker 1:
[132:20] Whereas Trump sits like this with his hands over his balls. He holds his hands like this.
Speaker 2:
[132:25] Everything's open.
Speaker 1:
[132:26] Yeah, he's got like the hova right over his cock. So ridiculous. Well, women always get mad on subways because men spread, but the reason why is that's how our hips are designed. What is this? The microphone's right on his cock. That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous.
Speaker 2:
[132:51] It's a funny picture.
Speaker 1:
[132:53] So how did ancient aliens, that show that you did, you getting high watching ancient aliens, how did that even start?
Speaker 2:
[132:59] Vice was about to fucking take over the History Channel.
Speaker 1:
[133:03] And they just needed content?
Speaker 2:
[133:05] I was like, yo, you guys are fucking bugging. You're not taking this off. This has to stay. Like, yo, ancient aliens, this comes with Vice. Like, this is now going to be transferred. And they were like, I don't know if we could do it. So I had to go and speak to the homie who invented it. He gave me his blessings. I sat with him for like four hours. He was talking shit to me, whatever. Convinced him. He was, I was like, yo, this is not a joke. Like, everything is tongue in cheek and ridiculous, but this is how it makes us feel. I'm a proponent. I'm a believer. If I need to talk to Giorgio Tsoukalos, bring him here. Whatever. So he believed me and he like, he gave us the blessing. He recently, he didn't recently pass, but he passed a couple of years ago. Well, who did?
Speaker 1:
[133:53] Giorgio?
Speaker 2:
[133:53] No, not Giorgio, but the main creator. His name is stupid.
Speaker 1:
[133:59] Giorgio's the meme.
Speaker 2:
[134:00] He's the meme, yeah, he's the hair.
Speaker 1:
[134:01] I'm not saying it's aliens.
Speaker 2:
[134:03] He's the hair.
Speaker 1:
[134:03] But it's aliens.
Speaker 2:
[134:04] But there's a lot of other sicko dudes on there that I like.
Speaker 1:
[134:06] Oh yeah. Well, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 2:
[134:08] Von Eric, the guy who just died also.
Speaker 1:
[134:10] Von Daniken?
Speaker 2:
[134:11] Von Dennet, yeah. Eric Von Dennet.
Speaker 1:
[134:13] Von Daniken, yeah. I met him.
Speaker 2:
[134:15] Really?
Speaker 1:
[134:16] Yeah, my friend Eric Weinstein brought me to a lunch where he was at and I had a chance to talk to him about what he believes and all this stuff. He was all in on the idea that aliens definitely came down here and built everything. I'm more of a believer that there was an ending of civilization and a rebirth of it and that what we're looking at is some incredible technology that humans had invented a long fucking time ago and that's what's responsible for all these structures that we don't understand. Like the ones in Mexico are crazy, man. They didn't know. They just uncovered those. I didn't know that until like not that long ago. I thought the Aztecs built all that shit.
Speaker 2:
[134:58] Think about all these things that they're finding now. Like I've seen recently like all these pyramids they're finding in Antarctica and yeah like.
Speaker 1:
[135:07] Well, I know that there's one mountain that is odd looking.
Speaker 2:
[135:11] Yeah, the odd looking nature of it. There's like domes and like points underneath.
Speaker 1:
[135:20] It looks weird. That one looks weird. There's a bunch of them in the Amazon that look really weird.
Speaker 2:
[135:25] Like when they do the LIDAR underneath the river bed, there's like civilization under there. There's like true civilization in certain areas of the Amazon.
Speaker 1:
[135:34] Yeah, I have a friend of mine, Luke Caverns, who goes and explores these things all the time. We were actually just talking about one of them that I think is in Peru. I sent it to him and I asked him, I said, hey, is this legit? And he's like, yeah, absolutely. Not only is it legit, but you can't get there. Like it's a really hard place to visit. It's almost impossible to get there and no one's really looked into it in terms of like, here it is, I found it.
Speaker 2:
[135:58] So what do they do, an overhead?
Speaker 1:
[136:00] Well, they have images of it and you look at the image and you're like, whoa, what is going on here? This is weird. Like the image here.
Speaker 2:
[136:07] Like full civilization along the bank.
Speaker 1:
[136:09] Well it's in the middle water. I think it's deep in the jungle and I think it's very difficult to get to. But the thing is a lot of the jungle, a lot of the Amazon, a lot of the stuff, is there's areas where people don't necessarily know how many people were living there a thousand years ago or two thousand years ago. It could have been like densely packed. Like look at that.
Speaker 2:
[136:29] That looks like a densely packed area with people.
Speaker 1:
[136:31] What the fuck is that? Like that does not look, that's the AI version. But go back to that. That's a real picture. Bro, that does not look natural at all. It doesn't match anything around it.
Speaker 2:
[136:42] That's crazy.
Speaker 1:
[136:43] It looks like something that someone built. It doesn't mean that it's something that someone built and it might just be that angle, right? If you look at it from the other side, it might look like bullshit.
Speaker 2:
[136:53] But from that angle, right there, there's angles of... There's isosceles right there. There's triangular situations going on, like...
Speaker 1:
[137:09] They're saying, but it's said in that image...
Speaker 2:
[137:11] But it don't look like it's four sides, it looked like five sides, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 1:
[137:15] It's hard to say. No, it could be four. It just could be four. Because where it is, if you just reverse it, you just reverse what you're saying. So it says, geologists refer to this formation as Cerro Elcano, attributing its sharp angles and pyramid-like structure to the slow, patient work of wind, rain and erosion over countless centuries, or someone built it. If you're not exploring it and you're saying that this thing that looks just like a pyramid, you think it was made by pyramid, by slow, patient work of wind and rain.
Speaker 2:
[137:45] But there's no other rock around it. Why didn't the patience happen there? This is a straight-up plane.
Speaker 1:
[137:51] It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:
[137:52] This is a jungle plane.
Speaker 1:
[137:53] That looks like a person built it. Those are right angles. And it's covered with bushes. So you've got to think, what did it look like? And they haven't gone and checked it out. I'll tell you what Luke said to me, because Luke is actually an expert in this stuff. This is what he does. He goes and visits these places. And he was telling me, it's like, this stuff is so strange because there's a bunch of these kind of structures that are in the jungle, all of them haven't been explored, and there's a lot of resistance. He says, it's deep and uncontacted tribe land. There's a small river that can get you within the 25-mile mark. He says, it's crazy out there. So it's just like, you just have a really difficult time in getting to it. I mean, there's a river that can get you within 25 miles of it. Okay.
Speaker 2:
[138:40] And then what?
Speaker 1:
[138:40] Then you got to walk through the jungle, 25 miles to get there. What does it look like on Google Earth? What does it look like, though? Kit, that's...
Speaker 3:
[138:48] I mean, I'm just showing the vastness.
Speaker 1:
[138:49] I know, but get that stupid little dot off of it.
Speaker 2:
[138:51] It's right at the border of Perum Zoo.
Speaker 3:
[138:54] Bro.
Speaker 1:
[138:56] What's under there? I want to know what's under there. Boy, that does look like a fucking pyramid, man. That looks like a pyramid that's covered with bushes.
Speaker 2:
[139:07] Yeah, in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1:
[139:11] They find all kinds of...
Speaker 2:
[139:12] Those are other ones?
Speaker 3:
[139:12] Hey, look at that. It's in a similar line and there's...
Speaker 2:
[139:15] It looks like it's in a pattern of a star in the sky.
Speaker 1:
[139:19] Right, like the great pyramids are...
Speaker 2:
[139:20] The pyramids are boom, boom, boom, and then that...
Speaker 1:
[139:22] Yeah, it's weird. Oh, here's another one. Did you see that they think that there's a second sphinx in Egypt?
Speaker 3:
[139:29] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[139:30] Yeah, so they've done scans of this area where a second sphinx would be and there's something under the sand that's the size of a sphinx.
Speaker 2:
[139:37] Would it be next to the original one?
Speaker 1:
[139:39] It's in the same area, like the same area, so you have your pyramids and then there's the sphinx, and on the opposite side, there's another sphinx.
Speaker 2:
[139:46] But the sphinx isn't the sphinx. It was something else. The face was something else, right?
Speaker 1:
[139:50] They think. They think the face was a lion's face, and then a pharaoh.
Speaker 2:
[139:55] Like that dog, that long snouted dog that they have?
Speaker 1:
[139:59] Could be. I don't think they think it's that, though. I think they think it's a lion. And so there's one exactly opposite of it. And so this one, what does it look like when they show that image, the scan?
Speaker 3:
[140:15] I don't think there's anything there.
Speaker 1:
[140:17] What did the scan say?
Speaker 3:
[140:18] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[140:19] Would you scroll up? See, that's a scan. And it said something above it. It said, scans hinting at complex megastructure beneath the Giza Plateau. And so satellite images of the Giza Plateau reportedly captured this dune, which the signal processing researcher claims measures approximately 108 feet tall. The first sphinx sits slightly below the surrounding surface in a shallow depression, so it's quite possible the second sphinx could be hidden beneath this higher mound. So it's in the right position where a second sphinx would be, because I think do the sphinxes appear...
Speaker 2:
[141:00] Would they be side by side?
Speaker 1:
[141:01] No, I don't think so. I think they, it's like the pyramids are in the center, sphinx going that way, sphinx going that way. I think that's the idea. Do sphinx appear in pairs more than once? Would they look for it because that's a normal set up? What's the normal configuration of sphinxes? Yes, sphinxes frequently appear in pairs in ancient Egypt, Greek and Roman art, often acting as guardians in pairs or long avenues at temple entrances rather than as solitary monuments like the great sphinx.
Speaker 2:
[141:35] I mean, that makes sense, right? If they're facing opposite ways also, the one guarding the exit, both entrances?
Speaker 1:
[141:40] Exactly.
Speaker 3:
[141:41] Far away from each other, though.
Speaker 1:
[141:42] Right, but far in relative position to how far the sphinx is from the pyramids in the first place.
Speaker 3:
[141:48] Well, then we'd have to ask, like, do they appear in pairs far away from each other, not next to each other? Because that's sort of saying like they're guarding doors next to each other.
Speaker 1:
[141:56] Well, there's guarding, I understand, but...
Speaker 2:
[141:58] Or just entrances, if there's two entrances, you need them.
Speaker 1:
[142:01] Well, let's put that into perplexity. Ask it, when sphinxes appear in pairs, what is the configuration? What is the configuration? What is the config... What configuration? So maybe it will tell us there and give us... Maybe they are, like, right next to each other, and then this doesn't make any sense. Both Egyptian art and architecture, sphinxes very often appear in pairs, usually flanking an axis, such as a road, doorway or staircase, right? So like two in front of a doorway. Temple approaches, rows are pairs of sphinxes, commonly lined processional roads, with one on each side of the central path. So usually, like, on two sides of a door. Gates and doorways, gateways and doorways, pair of sphinxes, orientation idea. Modern popular writers often say one face is east and the other face is west. Okay, well, that's different.
Speaker 2:
[143:02] That's what they would have found.
Speaker 1:
[143:04] So it's possible that they did it in several different ways, but often in twos. So if they do have one big sphinx and there's another-
Speaker 3:
[143:12] Yeah, but it's pulling that from a Facebook post talking about this potential second one.
Speaker 1:
[143:17] Oh, interesting. Interesting. So it might be horse shit.
Speaker 3:
[143:20] It's just a grain of salt with it, is all it says.
Speaker 1:
[143:22] Right. We won't know until they get in there, but if it is there and it's just under sand, that's not that big of a deal because they had to uncover this one.
Speaker 2:
[143:31] How long does it take to excavate these things?
Speaker 1:
[143:33] It'll take a while. I mean, it's a lot of sand. But it depends on how many workers, how many machines. Also, they have to do it carefully because you want to make sure you don't fuck up the sphinx. But if there is a sphinx under there, that would be fucking nuts. They found a second sphinx and they dug it out and they're like, Oh, shit.
Speaker 3:
[143:50] Look at that sphinx.
Speaker 1:
[143:51] Ooh.
Speaker 3:
[143:52] That's a lady's head.
Speaker 1:
[143:54] With one today.
Speaker 2:
[143:56] The nurturer.
Speaker 1:
[143:57] That's weird. What a weird head. Like, it's got pointy ears, right? Are those ears pointy or is that just where the hair goes?
Speaker 3:
[144:02] The hair.
Speaker 1:
[144:04] How weird. Well, maybe it was a chick. And they're like, nah, I'm making my face.
Speaker 4:
[144:09] Is that one big dick?
Speaker 3:
[144:11] One big breast?
Speaker 1:
[144:12] Yeah, one hard one.
Speaker 2:
[144:13] The fucking arm is jacked.
Speaker 1:
[144:15] Yeah. I don't like it. A little too much.
Speaker 2:
[144:18] I mean, total recall, three breasts if you want.
Speaker 1:
[144:21] Yeah. And it's weird that we like two, but we don't like three.
Speaker 2:
[144:24] Yeah, no, three is...
Speaker 1:
[144:25] Three is gross.
Speaker 2:
[144:25] Because it's weird, that middle part. You want the separation natural. You don't want like a third... It's like a fucking weird ornament.
Speaker 1:
[144:32] You know how hot a girl would have to be to pull off a third tit? They'd be like, I think I like it. I didn't like it when I first met her, but now I really like it. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2:
[144:42] Why not? We're in the future. Total recall.
Speaker 1:
[144:46] But if it was normal to have three boobs, that's what we would like. That's what's weird. The female shape, the desired female shape, like the fertility doll shape, it's very weird how that could have been a bunch of different shapes. For an aunt, it's something a little honey on its ass.
Speaker 2:
[145:00] Exactly. But this is also a thing. Why are we so obsessed with ass? I don't know. I am obsessed with an ass, and shit comes from it. Like you shit horrible things from your ass, but yet I love looking at that ass.
Speaker 1:
[145:15] People are complex.
Speaker 2:
[145:16] And I dream of biting that ass, like why? When I know fecal comes from it.
Speaker 1:
[145:21] People are confusing. We're confusing to each other.
Speaker 2:
[145:25] I'm confused at myself.
Speaker 1:
[145:27] You should be.
Speaker 2:
[145:28] I really am. But I love myself. Mike Tyson told me to never speak bad about myself because my subconscious doesn't know whether I'm joking or not. Right.
Speaker 1:
[145:41] That's wise.
Speaker 2:
[145:41] I think he heard that from fucking Bruce Lee, though. I'm not going to lie. I heard Bruce Lee say that on some shit recently. I was like, damn, Mike. And then I heard Bruce Lee say it.
Speaker 1:
[145:48] There's something true to that, for sure.
Speaker 2:
[145:50] There's no doubt.
Speaker 1:
[145:51] No doubt.
Speaker 2:
[145:52] Yeah. I always call myself a jerk or a schmuck. I'm not.
Speaker 1:
[145:55] What's this, Jamie?
Speaker 3:
[145:57] I'm looking at the oldest known pictures of the Sphinx.
Speaker 1:
[145:59] This is the oldest stone? So part of it's still underground.
Speaker 3:
[146:02] Somewhere around 1850 to 1860.
Speaker 1:
[146:04] Wow.
Speaker 3:
[146:04] I'm trying to find the year. This was actually 1892.
Speaker 2:
[146:08] That's nuts.
Speaker 3:
[146:10] It looks so strange.
Speaker 1:
[146:11] The whole thing is so strange, man. That place is so old. Even if you just go by what they think, which is 4,500 years ago they built this thing. That's so crazy. That's so fucking long ago.
Speaker 2:
[146:25] Well, now they're going to have fucking Rico Verhoeven and who else fight there, right?
Speaker 1:
[146:31] Oh yeah, Usyk.
Speaker 2:
[146:32] And Usyk and fucking Verhoeven fight there.
Speaker 1:
[146:34] That's nuts.
Speaker 2:
[146:35] That's kind of bugged out.
Speaker 1:
[146:36] It is kind of bugged out.
Speaker 2:
[146:38] But I like the idea of using the backdrop. No, the natural arenas, natural wonders arena. We should have it in Rome. We should have it, you know.
Speaker 1:
[146:47] By the way, it's hot as fuck out there.
Speaker 2:
[146:49] It's in the sandstorms. You guys are going to work.
Speaker 1:
[146:52] What are they going to do?
Speaker 2:
[146:53] How is this going to work?
Speaker 1:
[146:54] Right. What if there's a fucking sandstorm in the middle of the fight and they get sand in their eyes, they're swinging blind.
Speaker 2:
[146:58] They fucking try to do it in Times Square. It was a mess.
Speaker 1:
[147:01] Yeah, that didn't work out so well. The fights weren't that good either, except Tiafimo. Tiafimo fought really well.
Speaker 2:
[147:07] You got to bring the right people.
Speaker 1:
[147:10] Yeah. Someone was saying that it's almost like they're paying them so much. These guys are scared to lose. That was the argument about that Times Square card.
Speaker 2:
[147:21] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[147:21] Because the Saudis came in and just went, throwing that ring truck.
Speaker 2:
[147:27] They don't like rap, huh?
Speaker 1:
[147:31] They probably do.
Speaker 2:
[147:32] Well, they haven't hollered at me. Oh, man. I would go there. I'd be interested in seeing the Middle East. It'd be interesting to see all these places, man. I've been to a lot of places on Earth, but never over there.
Speaker 1:
[147:50] I've been to Dubai briefly for a UFC weigh-in in the UFC, which was in Abu Dhabi. So I've been there for that.
Speaker 2:
[147:58] And?
Speaker 1:
[147:58] It was great. That was a long time ago. But obviously, it was the best possible conditions. I'm there with the UFC, staying in a nice hotel. A lot of money over there, man. I'll tell you that. Like, when you're in Dubai, and this was quite a while ago. So Dubai is even crazier now. I mean, the construction there is just nuts. It's just so fucking, like, high-tech, and everything's beautiful, and no crime.
Speaker 2:
[148:23] Looks like it seems like a great place to be.
Speaker 1:
[148:26] Yeah, I know people that moved to Dubai just because there's no crime.
Speaker 2:
[148:29] Yeah, but there's no hash either.
Speaker 1:
[148:31] Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:
[148:32] There's hash, but they're not letting you smoke it.
Speaker 1:
[148:34] Bro, you get caught with that. You go to jail forever.
Speaker 2:
[148:36] Bro, they're the ones who have been making it for fucking millions of years. What the hell?
Speaker 1:
[148:39] I know. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2:
[148:40] What are they doing? They're keeping it for themselves.
Speaker 1:
[148:42] I wonder why they make it so illegal over there. It doesn't make sense. Because if they didn't, I wonder if they're just worried about people behaving foolishly. Because they don't have any tolerance for fucking around over there.
Speaker 2:
[148:54] You fucking see Amsterdam. That place is a goddamn mess when it comes to weed. Even since they made weed legal in America, in some places, it's a fucking... It's a carnival. It's terrible.
Speaker 1:
[149:05] Amsterdamers?
Speaker 2:
[149:07] Huh?
Speaker 1:
[149:07] Amsterdamers?
Speaker 2:
[149:08] No, no, no. Just places in America also. Like New York, now that weed is legal, it's disgraceful.
Speaker 1:
[149:14] In what way?
Speaker 2:
[149:15] Just the culture, like people smoking weed and fucking in the street, like...
Speaker 1:
[149:20] Openly.
Speaker 2:
[149:21] Not just openly, but like obnoxiously. Like everything is obnoxious.
Speaker 1:
[149:25] Like weed smoke everywhere?
Speaker 2:
[149:26] It's not just that. It's just the way it's done is obnoxious. It's just like...
Speaker 1:
[149:30] Oh, like we can finally do it legally?
Speaker 2:
[149:32] you. Yeah, let's fucking go. Let's be real stupid about it.
Speaker 1:
[149:35] Do you think that that'll eventually settle down and this is just because it's a new thing that's legal?
Speaker 2:
[149:40] Probably.
Speaker 1:
[149:41] I think so.
Speaker 2:
[149:41] Because it's really not even the people who like, you know... It's not like I'm a connoisseur of smoking weed, but I kind of am.
Speaker 1:
[149:51] Right.
Speaker 2:
[149:51] And I like to do it in a certain way, but I'm not judging how anyone else does it, but I feel like my way is best.
Speaker 1:
[149:57] I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2:
[149:58] Nice and chill.
Speaker 1:
[149:59] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[150:00] Chill it in the crib.
Speaker 1:
[150:01] You don't want to annoy other people with it. That's the problem.
Speaker 2:
[150:04] Not having to be like old school back in the day. I used to come into class smelling like the most weed I possibly could because that was what I was trying to exude. I was trying to be cool. Come in smelling like the sourest.
Speaker 1:
[150:16] You have your friends blowing on you.
Speaker 2:
[150:17] Oh my God.
Speaker 1:
[150:18] Blowing on me.
Speaker 2:
[150:19] Bro, you go in and like, who's fucking smelling? That was like some rush being in class and that happened. You're all stoned and shit in the back.
Speaker 1:
[150:30] It worked out for you.
Speaker 2:
[150:31] It did.
Speaker 1:
[150:32] A lot of people probably thought it wouldn't though, right?
Speaker 2:
[150:33] There's no doubt about it. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:
[150:35] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[150:37] I've been sold short my whole life.
Speaker 1:
[150:39] It'd be funny too, there's people that had a bad opinion of it back then, and they look at you now and like, boy, did I call that one wrong.
Speaker 2:
[150:45] Just in general, man, I did all right. I did all right. I've been reflecting a lot under the stars and in nature.
Speaker 1:
[150:57] When you're over landing?
Speaker 2:
[150:58] Yeah. When I'm not over landing, now I'm camping. Now I'm camped. Stay. Now I'm at camp. Base camp.
Speaker 1:
[151:04] Stay on ground.
Speaker 2:
[151:05] Yeah, I'm grounding. Take my shoes off. Feel the grass.
Speaker 1:
[151:11] Dude, I went down a crazy space rabbit hole last night. I was going down this this rabbit hole of black holes. And you remember, Jamie, I told you about that black hole they found that's as big as our galaxy. Not not our galaxy, excuse me, our solar system. They found a black hole that is so big that it's like it's bigger than from here all the way to Pluto. Well, they found one now that's bigger than our galaxy. They found a black hole that's larger than the... I think it's called Phoenix A. See if we can find the Phoenix A black hole.
Speaker 2:
[151:47] If it's larger than the galaxy, there's really no measurement of what this is. To even think about you saying, yo, it's bigger than our galaxy, what the does that mean?
Speaker 1:
[151:57] The way this person in this video was explaining it, it's so insane because the amount of time that it would take for a black hole to suck in that much matter to become that massive, there's not enough time since the birth of the universe. That's what they're... So they're confused as to how it's formed. They're like, well, maybe we're wrong about how these things are formed. It's roughly a hundred times larger than the distance between the sun and Pluto with a diameter of roughly 590 billion kilometers. Unlike many supermassive black holes that inhibit star formation, Phoenix A is currently in a phase of rapid growth, consuming enough matter to grow about 60 solar masses per year. This activity drives high rates of star formation in its surrounding galaxy.
Speaker 2:
[152:46] Is there any way to diagnose this black hole from here? Can we see it through any telescope, the high-powered thing?
Speaker 1:
[152:52] Well, they detected it, but I don't understand how they detect it.
Speaker 2:
[152:55] But any of them, can we see any of them in real time?
Speaker 1:
[152:57] You can't really see a black hole. What you see is everything around the black hole getting sucked into it.
Speaker 2:
[153:02] Yeah, well, you see some sort of, like, weird movement, no?
Speaker 1:
[153:05] Right.
Speaker 3:
[153:05] I saw this, I thought you were headed towards this. I saw this within the last couple of days.
Speaker 1:
[153:11] Anton Petrov?
Speaker 3:
[153:12] No, no, the Milky Way lives in this thing called a void that is like a black hole, but it's like two billion light years across. And we're in the middle of it.
Speaker 1:
[153:22] Why?
Speaker 3:
[153:22] Like, look at that picture as like an example of what that would be. Wow. Like, there's nothing else around us.
Speaker 2:
[153:29] That's perfect placement.
Speaker 1:
[153:30] So is that circle supposed to be the Milky Way?
Speaker 3:
[153:32] Yeah, that would be the Milky Way, not Earth.
Speaker 1:
[153:33] That's the galaxy.
Speaker 3:
[153:34] And then there's a billion light years to any direction. But that's Earth.
Speaker 1:
[153:39] That graphic.
Speaker 3:
[153:39] I know, again, it's like not the best. Earth is in the Milky Way, so it's showing you that.
Speaker 1:
[153:44] Okay, so the Milky Way is just in the center of a void. Is that uncommon?
Speaker 3:
[153:50] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[153:51] That's the thing, it's like, are all these galaxies in the center of a void? But just the idea that there's a supermassive black hole out there that's a hundred times more massive or a hundred times larger than the distance between Earth and Pluto. Like, what?
Speaker 2:
[154:08] This is why we have to be smoking weed in front of a green screen talking about this and having weird people come on and comment.
Speaker 1:
[154:17] Do you, have you been paying attention to this news about these UFO researchers and scientists that are going missing? Yeah. What do you think of that?
Speaker 2:
[154:25] Don't, listen, don't top doctors go missing, don't top physicists go missing, don't fucking astronaut, all these fucking people who are in facts, you know, power positions. Not even, just position of high intelligence, knowledge.
Speaker 1:
[154:40] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[154:40] They go bye bye. The best heart surgeons on Earth, seven of them were on the same fucking plane that went down. What do you know? The best, whatever, whatever. They just found the cure for cancer. These ten doctors, they're on a PJ to fucking who the hell knows where and they go down.
Speaker 3:
[154:56] Jesse wrote a good write up about them all that I think explains the angle. We would prefer to hear about, you know, like conspiracies and UFOs and stuff.
Speaker 1:
[155:05] So he thinks it's a conspiracy? Or he's laying out the possibility of it being a conspiracy?
Speaker 3:
[155:09] Correct, and at least from that angle.
Speaker 2:
[155:11] It's just crazy that all these top doctors and top things and physicists and just like these people just disappear.
Speaker 1:
[155:17] One of them was a general who's also a...
Speaker 3:
[155:19] He's the...
Speaker 2:
[155:20] General's no shit.
Speaker 3:
[155:21] He's the key because he was in charge of, I think, the UFO program.
Speaker 1:
[155:26] Right.
Speaker 3:
[155:26] If there is one. Exactly.
Speaker 1:
[155:27] If there is one. But if you did, didn't he just leave the house with just a gun?
Speaker 3:
[155:34] It's on the screen what he left with.
Speaker 1:
[155:38] He took a red backpack, his wallet and a.38 caliber revolver.
Speaker 3:
[155:42] Left behind his phone.
Speaker 1:
[155:43] He left behind his phone. His wife reported him missing within three hours. Despite FBI involvement, Air Force Office of Special Investigation searched dogs, drones, helicopters, horseback teams, FLIR sweeps and 700 canvas households. No confirmed sightings of McCasland has ever surfaced. Surveillance cameras covered both ends of his street. None captured his direction of travel. After weeks of searching, the only item recovered was a gray Air Force sweatshirt a mile east of his house. Testing could not confirm it was his.
Speaker 3:
[156:17] He was the first one to disappear. He had no DNA?
Speaker 2:
[156:20] No hair came off?
Speaker 3:
[156:21] He was the first one to disappear and then another one disappeared. They're like, they actually might have worked together. Then every other day, it's like now another one and another one and another one.
Speaker 1:
[156:31] Also, if you knew something that the whole world didn't know, like if you knew the human race was just a bunch of soul containers for some super advanced alien race that just uses us as a farm. And you're like, what's the purpose?
Speaker 2:
[156:46] We're all just an empty body with fucking aliens hosting us.
Speaker 1:
[156:50] Hacked emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, revealed correspondence from Tom DeLong naming McCaslin directly. DeLong? I'm saying it wrong, right? No, Tom DeLong. DeLong wrote that McCaslin helped assemble his advisory team, was deeply aware of what DeLong was trying to achieve, had received a four-hour briefing on the project. DeLong added that McCaslin ran the laboratory at Wright Patterson, where the Roswell material was shipped. But that's all speculation.
Speaker 3:
[157:24] What's the part?
Speaker 1:
[157:25] The Roswell material.
Speaker 2:
[157:27] They keep talking about Roswell and this and that. There's so much. Why is it always like focus on that shit?
Speaker 1:
[157:34] Sorry, bro. Say it again.
Speaker 3:
[157:35] He did run. It was in charge of the Air Force lab at Wright Pat. That's why it's linked to the Roswell material. That could be the right. It could be the part you put in parentheses, but he did run that lab.
Speaker 1:
[157:47] It's all very interesting because that is the lore was that that's where the wreckage was shipped.
Speaker 3:
[157:53] But and then the one we talked about yesterday, Monica Reza, I looked her up. She is known for being on a patent of some super metal alloy. I was looking that up yesterday. That doesn't mean anything specifically.
Speaker 1:
[158:07] This is the lady that vanished. She was the lady that was hiking. Her friend turned around, saw her, kept hiking, said something to her, kept hiking, turned around a little while later and she was gone. No one ever found her.
Speaker 3:
[158:18] Co-invented an alloy called Mondeloi, which is used in rocket engines currently.
Speaker 1:
[158:24] Dun, dun, dun, and maybe working on some new shit, maybe.
Speaker 2:
[158:30] I mean, those people who got those patents to all those metal, like the fucking guy who got the patent to the clip that turns the gun into an automatic, that's that shit. Those little components turn bigger things into like super situations.
Speaker 1:
[158:47] This is like a crazy alloy for spaceships.
Speaker 2:
[158:50] Yeah, but just you need that.
Speaker 1:
[158:52] Of course. But it's kind of weird that that lady is a lady that goes missing. So if you were a competitor country, I could see why you'd want to take out one of those scientists, you know, definitely. If you were involved in another industry that might be harmed by her work, like if her work would make your work obsolete, you might want to get rid of her. Get rid of her?
Speaker 2:
[159:15] That's right.
Speaker 1:
[159:16] Look, that's always happened. People have always done that. You can't take it out of the equation. You gotta thoroughly investigate.
Speaker 2:
[159:21] This is, it's a story as old as time.
Speaker 1:
[159:24] It is, right?
Speaker 2:
[159:25] You get rid of one person, the next one comes in. If they're threatening to you, they go bye-bye.
Speaker 1:
[159:32] Especially in big business, like rocket engines and alloys and space travel and...
Speaker 2:
[159:38] Something as small as fucking numbers betting. They kill you for betting numbers. They're not going to kill you for that?
Speaker 1:
[159:46] Truth.
Speaker 2:
[159:47] Nothing but truth, man.
Speaker 1:
[159:49] Well, listen, brother, thanks for being here. Tell us, everybody, one more time, your album.
Speaker 2:
[159:55] Give us a fuck.
Speaker 1:
[159:56] Come on, dog. We do.
Speaker 2:
[159:57] You know, I'm not here for that. I'm just here to say hello.
Speaker 1:
[159:59] I'm going to get people to check it out.
Speaker 2:
[160:01] You think they're going to give a shit?
Speaker 1:
[160:02] I think they will. Yeah, they like it.
Speaker 2:
[160:04] Yo, fucking Planet Frog coming out real soon. Real soon, man. We drop it now. Yo, you already know. That hype shit.
Speaker 1:
[160:12] Hype shit.
Speaker 2:
[160:13] You know, I got all kinds of things. I got many projects on the way for the year.
Speaker 1:
[160:18] Fuck That's Delicious.
Speaker 2:
[160:19] Always. That's always going down.
Speaker 1:
[160:21] Always.
Speaker 2:
[160:21] You know that.
Speaker 1:
[160:22] Boy, shout out to KG BBQ.
Speaker 2:
[160:24] Yo, come on. Made them a star.
Speaker 1:
[160:26] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[160:27] That was a good workout.
Speaker 1:
[160:28] KG or KB?
Speaker 2:
[160:29] KG.
Speaker 1:
[160:30] KG. Yeah, okay. I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 2:
[160:32] Like I said, I just want to come to work out with you and just fucking chill, kick it, talk some fucking fights.
Speaker 1:
[160:37] Anytime, sir. Anytime.
Speaker 2:
[160:39] That's it.
Speaker 1:
[160:39] It's always fun to hang with you.
Speaker 2:
[160:40] You too, bro.
Speaker 1:
[160:41] Come on, brother.
Speaker 2:
[160:41] Like I said, I don't give a fuck about my album. Fuck that shit. Fuck everything else. I'm here for a good time.
Speaker 1:
[160:49] Well, it was a good time.
Speaker 2:
[160:50] Thank you.
Speaker 1:
[160:50] Appreciate you always.
Speaker 2:
[160:52] All right.
Speaker 1:
[160:53] All right. Bye, everybody.