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Speaker 1:
[00:03] Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2:
[00:37] You look tired.

Speaker 3:
[00:37] Tired, yes, very tired.

Speaker 2:
[00:41] You look very tired.

Speaker 3:
[00:42] I'm here to thank God that I woke up this morning.

Speaker 2:
[00:44] Did you smoke before you came in this morning?

Speaker 3:
[00:45] No, honestly, I have not.

Speaker 2:
[00:47] Edible?

Speaker 3:
[00:47] No.

Speaker 2:
[00:48] Oh, you're just tired.

Speaker 4:
[00:49] I don't believe her.

Speaker 3:
[00:49] I'm just tired. I don't care what y'all believe, damn it. I'm tired.

Speaker 4:
[00:52] But God can see her. That's all that matters.

Speaker 3:
[00:54] Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4:
[00:56] And I'm going to tell you something about God, man. I woke up this morning, and I was like, man, today is one of those days. I wish I could just stay home and just be still and listen to the voice of God all day. And so as I was driving in the work, I was slightly meditating, because of course you can't meditate when you're driving. But I was just riding in silence, and I said to myself, I'm not going to do anything but listen for the voice of God all day long. Even in this room. So if it's not of God, I don't want to hear it. And I haven't heard y'all yet this morning. It sounds like I'm deaf. I'm deaf in this room right now.

Speaker 3:
[01:26] Well, hopefully you'll be quiet too. All right.

Speaker 4:
[01:30] Well, is there anybody talking just now? I didn't hear.

Speaker 2:
[01:31] Well, let's get the show cracking. Kenya Barris will be joining us. He has a new documentary. It's called The Logo, Jerry West The Logo. It's on Prime Video. Now, you know Jerry West, if you're an NBA fan, he was the alleged logo for a long time. And now I guess in the documentary, they are proving that Jerry West is the logo.

Speaker 4:
[01:48] I mean, they've always known it was the logo. They didn't want to admit that he was the logo because they didn't want to have to pay him.

Speaker 2:
[01:53] Correct.

Speaker 4:
[01:53] Yes, but they always knew that was his silhouette.

Speaker 2:
[01:56] Yes. So he'll be joining us to talk about that.

Speaker 4:
[01:58] One of the greatest losers in NBA history, probably the greatest loser in NBA history. I mean, championship loser.

Speaker 2:
[02:04] Championship loser, right.

Speaker 4:
[02:05] I know that sounds crazy, but yes, there are championship losers.

Speaker 2:
[02:07] Definitely. He's a hall of famer. Yeah, he's a...

Speaker 4:
[02:10] But he's like, what, one in six in NBA finals? One in six and one in seven. One in seven or something like that?

Speaker 2:
[02:15] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[02:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[02:16] But we'll be kicking it with Kenya Barris in a little bit. Then we got front page news.

Speaker 4:
[02:20] With Mimi Brown.

Speaker 2:
[02:20] Mimi will be breaking down everything that's happening.

Speaker 4:
[02:22] I did turn on one record this morning. One record. I don't know why I just was in the mood to hear some goodie mob this morning. You know what I mean? So I put on one of my favorite albums, Soul Food. If you was born in the 1900s, then you understand what that album meant to people.

Speaker 3:
[02:41] To what you want to hear.

Speaker 4:
[02:42] How it filled you up.

Speaker 3:
[02:44] Did God speak to you through that album?

Speaker 4:
[02:45] He did actually. A hundred percent. Soul Food, absolutely. God is all through that album. He's all through the title track of that album, Soul Food by the way.

Speaker 2:
[02:52] All right. Well, let's jump into it right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get your ass up. Meet me up up next. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God.

Speaker 1:
[03:01] We are The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2:
[03:02] Let's get in some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. Now, last night in NBA, the 76ers beat the Celtics 111-97. The Lakers beat the Rockets 101-94. They lead that series 2-0. And the Trail Blazers beat the Spurs 106-103.

Speaker 4:
[03:19] I just assume if you're on the East Coast and you staying up to watch games like the Rockets, because you ain't got nothing to do in the morning. You ain't got no job. You ain't got no school. You have kids to wake up in the morning. After Spurs, Trail Blazers. And by the way, that was too late for me anyway.

Speaker 2:
[03:32] That was late. That ended at like 10.30, 10.40.

Speaker 4:
[03:34] I don't even remember. I just knew it was way past my bedtime and my eyes started to look like music soul chat. Yeah, it was time to sleep.

Speaker 2:
[03:40] These are late games. What's up, Mimi?

Speaker 5:
[03:42] Good morning, Envy, Jess, Charlamagne. How y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 4:
[03:45] Peace, Mimi Brown.

Speaker 5:
[03:46] Good morning. So we started this morning in Virginia where voters approved a new congressional map that could shift the balance of power in Washington. The decision gives Democrats a clearer path to pick up as many as four seats in the US. House of Representatives at a time when control of Congress is expected to be tight heading into the midterms. This comes after a multimillion-dollar fight on both sides with Democrats calling it a way to push back against Republican power and Republicans calling it an unfair redraw or gerrymandering. Now, all of this is part of a much bigger nationwide battle. The United States across the country are redrawing maps mid-decade, all trying to gain an edge before the next election. Let's hear from House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 6:
[04:30] Listen, we were on our way to winning control of the House of Representatives because Donald Trump and Republicans have completely and totally failed. The economy is a disaster. They've broken health care in the United States of America. And now we have this reckless, costly war of choice that Donald Trump has plunged the country in, spending billions of dollars to drop bombs in the Middle East while these Republican extremists won't spend a dime to make life better for the American people. It was important for Democrats to push back aggressively across the country to stop Donald Trump's gerrymandering scheme, which was designed to rig the midterm elections. They thought we were going to step back, but we've made clear that we will fight back and we're going to keep our foot on the gas pedal.

Speaker 4:
[05:13] One of the rare times that I agree with Hakeem Jeffries, but this gives me a little bit of hope for the midterms because we know Trump and his goons are going to do everything in their power to intervene in the midterms and by intervene, I mean, still. But when I see things like this, it gives me a case for optimism.

Speaker 5:
[05:27] Yeah, for sure. We know we picked up five seats here in California, but up next is Florida. The lawmakers there, they are expected to take up their own redistricting plan as soon as next week. We'll continue to watch what happens there. Democrats, of course, are saying this is just bigger than one state. Several states are now doing this. We'll see what outcome we have when we get to the midterm election with all of these redistricting plans happening across the US. Go ahead.

Speaker 4:
[05:53] And it also feels like Republicans got beat at their own game, their own gerrymandering game, okay? Because Republicans started the redistricting gerrymandering game. They started that in Texas.

Speaker 5:
[06:02] In Texas, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And now to the war in Iran where we are waking up to a major development. President Trump announcing he is extending the ceasefire just hours before it was set to expire. He says he is waiting for Iran to come to the table with a unified proposal and insisting the US is in a strong position to get Iran to sign a nuclear deal. But some members of Congress, they are not convinced. They say the president may be standing in his own way when it comes to ending this war. Let's hear from Congressman Adam Smith and Congressman Gregory Meeks of New York.

Speaker 7:
[06:38] I mean, everyone seems to think that Trump has some sort of mad genius to what he's doing. It seems to me like he's just an arrogant egotist popping off in ways that aren't well thought out and don't advance any sort of strategic plan.

Speaker 8:
[06:51] So I would hope that both sides stay at the table and work hard to get this thing done. Because the end result is when you do things erratically as the president has done it, the American people suffer.

Speaker 4:
[07:04] I agree with those individuals. Okay, Trump don't know what he's doing. He's just giving it up.

Speaker 5:
[07:09] Yeah, day by day, it's something different. So as we come on this morning, no talks are happening.

Speaker 2:
[07:14] I was going to ask, wasn't there supposed to be a meeting yesterday? JD. Vance was flying in. What happened with that?

Speaker 5:
[07:19] Exactly, there was supposed to be a meeting yesterday. JD. Vance was flying in. But as of this morning, no talks are happening. Both sides were a no-show envy in Pakistan, with Iran refusing to attend, pointing at those US seizures of those oil ships and the ongoing naval blockade as a reason to why they are refusing to show up at the table. Vice President JD. Vance is also back in Washington. There were pictures of him yesterday, arriving at the White House, canceling his plans after those failed negotiations. And so, yeah, and here at home, of course, we're already feeling it. Oil prices, they climbed again yesterday after those shipments continue to be disrupted on the Strait of Formos. And of course, that's pushing those gas prices up that we're seeing. I think the national average is somewhere around $4 a gallon, according to AAA. And that's just keeping pressure up on flights and everyday goods.

Speaker 3:
[08:11] Diesel is almost $6. That's crazy. I know these track and trail drivers are, these truckers are wilding right now.

Speaker 4:
[08:19] What do you mean, these truckers?

Speaker 3:
[08:20] Because I'm not a trucker. I'm not, okay, I'm not a trucker.

Speaker 4:
[08:23] Don't act like you didn't have this conversation at home. Don't act like you didn't hear these complaints at the house.

Speaker 3:
[08:27] Yeah, I hear the complaints at the house, but you are the best gas stations. I see, like yo, $5.46 is what I saw. Yo, they are almost $6. That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[08:36] I put $40, I'm the $40 guy. I'm only putting $40 in regardless of the gas prices. And usually $40 would get me like 200 miles.

Speaker 4:
[08:42] I always told you I left $40 when you was on your come up.

Speaker 2:
[08:45] You said what?

Speaker 3:
[08:46] What?

Speaker 4:
[08:46] And I said, but listen, you know, I saw the gas prices go up.

Speaker 2:
[08:49] And today it only got me 80 miles today.

Speaker 4:
[08:50] I saw the gas prices go up in real time. I was driving and it was like three somethings and then it went up to like 40, I was this morning.

Speaker 3:
[08:55] Why you was looking at it?

Speaker 4:
[08:56] I was looking at, you know, you be looking at the signs and you driving, the sign went up in real time. I was like, oh shoot.

Speaker 2:
[09:04] 40 dollars got me nothing this morning.

Speaker 4:
[09:05] It got somebody else something though, didn't it? That was your price back in the day, wasn't it?

Speaker 2:
[09:10] What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[09:11] What of God?

Speaker 4:
[09:12] Leave me 40 dollars. Thank you, Mimi. God wanted me to tell him that.

Speaker 3:
[09:16] No.

Speaker 5:
[09:16] All right.

Speaker 4:
[09:17] Remind him of his past wicked ways.

Speaker 5:
[09:20] Coming up at 7, a major airline is struggling to stay afloat. The solution could involve your money. We're going to talk about it.

Speaker 4:
[09:26] Nah, I've been told y'all to get out the sky. I know exactly who y'all ways should have been clipped a long time ago. I know exactly who you're talking about.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] We'll get to that next.

Speaker 4:
[09:34] I saw that story.

Speaker 2:
[09:35] Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

Speaker 4:
[09:38] They still owe me some money right now.

Speaker 2:
[09:40] If you need to vent, hit us up now at The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 1:
[09:48] This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] Hello, who's this?

Speaker 9:
[09:58] Yeah, what up, man? This is Marcus from Freik over Gene.

Speaker 2:
[10:01] Marcus, what up?

Speaker 4:
[10:02] He's Marcus.

Speaker 9:
[10:03] How y'all doing this morning, man?

Speaker 4:
[10:05] That's black and holly favorite.

Speaker 9:
[10:06] That's what's up, man. Yo, do y'all mind if I take a moment to speak to my wife for a second? Go ahead, bro. Yo, babe, I love you so much. Happy 21st anniversary. You know any other time I would spend that time with you, but I just started this job Monday, like you know, and I got to get to the band, babe. Thank you so much for being there and having my back, man. I love you so much.

Speaker 4:
[10:27] What's your queen name? I love that.

Speaker 9:
[10:28] Oh, my name's Shamika. Shamika White.

Speaker 4:
[10:31] Shamika White. Salute to Shamika White, man. What's your name again, brother?

Speaker 9:
[10:34] Marcus. My name Marcus.

Speaker 4:
[10:36] Salute to Shamika White from Marcus, man. I'm glad that you're sending her that energy this morning. Is she upset that you can't spend time with her? On y'all anniversary?

Speaker 9:
[10:44] Nah, she might get to the bag, man. She know what it is.

Speaker 4:
[10:47] That's what's up, man. How long y'all been together?

Speaker 2:
[10:49] He just said, oh, they're married 21 years.

Speaker 4:
[10:51] Oh, 21 years.

Speaker 9:
[10:52] They're married 21 years.

Speaker 4:
[10:53] Congratulations, my brother.

Speaker 2:
[10:54] He don't listen. He don't listen.

Speaker 10:
[10:55] Well, congratulations, brother.

Speaker 2:
[10:56] Enjoy it.

Speaker 4:
[10:57] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[10:58] Thank you so much, and y'all have a wonderful day.

Speaker 4:
[10:59] You too, Marcus.

Speaker 3:
[11:00] Me too.

Speaker 2:
[11:01] I can tell you, you're not listening to people this morning.

Speaker 4:
[11:04] I know you're not talking.

Speaker 2:
[11:05] Charlamagne reset Marcus.

Speaker 1:
[11:06] Did he say, what's your name, bro?

Speaker 4:
[11:08] Right.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] Then he got some 21st anniversary.

Speaker 1:
[11:09] How long you been married?

Speaker 4:
[11:10] 24? Yes, because things happen like that sometimes. You do it all the time as well. You do know that, right?

Speaker 2:
[11:14] I do do it.

Speaker 4:
[11:14] Okay, then. So shut the hell up.

Speaker 2:
[11:18] But you do it right now, just right on top of you just saying, my artist darling. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 11:
[11:22] Hey, what's up? It's Kendra from Jersey.

Speaker 2:
[11:25] Kendra. Get it off your chest, mama.

Speaker 4:
[11:27] What's your name and where you calling from, Kendra?

Speaker 2:
[11:30] This guy's crazy.

Speaker 12:
[11:31] You ain't even listening, mama.

Speaker 2:
[11:32] He's not listening.

Speaker 4:
[11:33] I heard you, Kendra. That's a joke, Kendra from New Jersey.

Speaker 11:
[11:36] What's up, Kendra?

Speaker 2:
[11:37] Get it off your chest.

Speaker 11:
[11:37] I'm okay, Charla. All right. Well, I was just, I didn't even have time to get off my chest bad. I just called.

Speaker 4:
[11:43] What about that hair?

Speaker 11:
[11:44] Good morning. What's up? What's up?

Speaker 4:
[11:46] Nothing, Kendra.

Speaker 3:
[11:47] Damn, Kendra. He is playing with you.

Speaker 2:
[11:49] Be positive this morning.

Speaker 12:
[11:50] I know.

Speaker 11:
[11:52] He was having good vibes today. He's been playing ever since he said that.

Speaker 3:
[11:55] Absolutely.

Speaker 11:
[11:57] Oh, man. But now, I was just going to say good morning to y'all and some good vibes for the day. That's it.

Speaker 4:
[12:02] That's right, Kendra. Make sure God isn't everything that you do today. I did wake up this morning and I said, I'm listening for the voice of God. I really wish I could just sit home and meditate all day, but that's not the way life works.

Speaker 11:
[12:14] You know what? That's great. You know what? You just keep good energy up all day and just try to be kind to people. You know, a lot of people go on through things you never know. A lot of silent battles, no matter how much you see them smiling, they're pushing through something. So, I just try to be as kind as I can to people.

Speaker 9:
[12:30] That's real, Kendra. You're right.

Speaker 4:
[12:32] Thank you, mama.

Speaker 11:
[12:33] And most importantly, be kind to Drake, Charlamagne. Get ready for May 15th.

Speaker 2:
[12:38] Oh, wow. I like that.

Speaker 4:
[12:40] I'm not sitting around hating on Drake. I don't care what Drake does.

Speaker 11:
[12:44] All right. You want to make sure that, you know, you're going to be objective on May 15th and give my boy a chance.

Speaker 4:
[12:50] Of course. I said yesterday that I liked the rollout. I like what he did with the ice blocks. I think that was slick. And I saw him give $100,000 to the person who founded the release date. I thought that was slick. I like that.

Speaker 2:
[13:01] I'm sure Lauren's going to be breaking that down in the latest. Yes, Drake did announce a date.

Speaker 3:
[13:06] Oh, nice.

Speaker 2:
[13:06] And the person who found the actual thing in the ice got some bread last night.

Speaker 3:
[13:10] They broke the ice. $100,000 they said. They broke the ice. Damn. Okay, cool.

Speaker 10:
[13:14] But anybody else get it off your chest.

Speaker 2:
[13:16] 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 13:
[13:22] This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed.

Speaker 14:
[13:27] It's time to get up and get something.

Speaker 13:
[13:29] Call up now.

Speaker 1:
[13:30] 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2:
[13:34] Hello, who's this?

Speaker 9:
[13:35] Good morning, Breakfast Club. It's JA from Indy.

Speaker 4:
[13:37] Peace, JA from Indy.

Speaker 10:
[13:38] What's up, JA.? How you been?

Speaker 9:
[13:40] I've been good. I've been flying a little bit. I've been to the island. We talked about that. Del Lauren, I went to Italy. I was there before she was there. Okay. But now I got beef with my boys.

Speaker 2:
[13:48] Why you got beef with your boys?

Speaker 9:
[13:50] We take a guy's trip every year. And now that the guy's trip is coming up, the payments are paid, now they want to make payment plans. I'm like, yeah, I'll just stay here.

Speaker 2:
[13:59] Nah, but you got to understand, the gas prices are high, the food prices are high, they gon get it together.

Speaker 3:
[14:04] They just gotta do a little bit at a time. It's different this year.

Speaker 9:
[14:06] Hey, I wasn't able to like the car, so I'm sorry, we're here to control the money.

Speaker 4:
[14:11] Can I ask you a question, what's the point of a guy's trip?

Speaker 9:
[14:15] It's for them, I already be outside, I fly to them, it's just for them.

Speaker 2:
[14:18] They're sitting in the circle of masturbation.

Speaker 4:
[14:19] Are they all married?

Speaker 3:
[14:20] Liars, stop.

Speaker 4:
[14:22] Are they all married? There you go.

Speaker 9:
[14:24] A couple of them are.

Speaker 4:
[14:25] Yeah, I just don't see the point of no guy's trip. I ain't like, you know, would I like to go on an island or something? I wanna be with my wife. I mean, what's your guys for what?

Speaker 9:
[14:34] You know what, cause we like to go to museums. We like to do things in that.

Speaker 2:
[14:38] You know what, the funny thing, I was talking to my wife about this and I was like, I wouldn't want to go on a guy trip. Then I rethought about it. I'm like, no, I can. And I'm going to tell you how. If me and the fellas, let's say we're into golf and we say, yo, let's go golfing. The fellas could go golfing if they want to.

Speaker 4:
[14:51] But that's a one day thing.

Speaker 2:
[14:54] Or if you're into soccer and you want to go to the World Cup.

Speaker 4:
[14:57] Or if you want to go to the Osher and Chris Brown concert. That's what you were talking about doing the other day.

Speaker 2:
[15:00] And the meet and greet. But besides that, I don't want to go anywhere with my fellas.

Speaker 4:
[15:04] Me neither. I'd rather go with the wife.

Speaker 3:
[15:07] But y'all don't want to be with them for days. Like Sharla said, one day we can fellowship. Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[15:12] We go golfing and we out.

Speaker 4:
[15:14] We go watch the other day and we out. One day is a little too much.

Speaker 3:
[15:17] But not like a whole trip.

Speaker 2:
[15:18] No, not a whole trip.

Speaker 4:
[15:19] Did you go to Anguilla, Jay?

Speaker 9:
[15:21] He talked to me about this a couple of weeks ago. Yes, I get that.

Speaker 4:
[15:25] But did you go?

Speaker 9:
[15:27] Yes. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[15:28] All right.

Speaker 9:
[15:29] February, before I lose you, I don't think Charlamagne and Envy, I don't think y'all have friends. That's really why you guys fight.

Speaker 3:
[15:35] Die young, they probably don't.

Speaker 4:
[15:38] You might be right. I mean, no, I got friends, but I don't want no guy's trip. I didn't even do a bachelor party when I get married. Like, that's not my idea of fun.

Speaker 3:
[15:46] But I feel like you don't even hang with nobody.

Speaker 4:
[15:49] No, I don't.

Speaker 2:
[15:51] I mean, either.

Speaker 3:
[15:52] I was going to say, yeah, y'all don't hang out with people.

Speaker 2:
[15:54] When I'm working, because if I go to the game, I'm taking my son. I'm taking my daughter. If I'm going somewhere, I'm taking my wife.

Speaker 3:
[16:00] Yeah, family or working.

Speaker 4:
[16:01] That's right. I got a very small circle of people that I like to be around.

Speaker 2:
[16:05] Me too, and I'm happy about that.

Speaker 4:
[16:06] When it's not work related. Yeah, a very, very small circle. My circle is so small, it could be a dot. Thank you, J. Well, listen, I'll tell you something. The people you like to be around for no reason, that's like really your circle. And there's only a few people I like to be around for no reason. Like no reason, I'm talking about no reason whatsoever. We ain't got to be doing nothing, just kicking it. That circle is very, very, very, very, very, very small.

Speaker 2:
[16:29] I'm with you. Get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. We got the latest coming up.

Speaker 10:
[16:34] Hey, Lauren.

Speaker 15:
[16:35] Hey guys, good morning.

Speaker 10:
[16:35] How you feeling, Lauren?

Speaker 15:
[16:37] I'm feeling good. How y'all feeling?

Speaker 3:
[16:38] Yeslicious, period.

Speaker 15:
[16:39] Got them done yesterday, filled and thick.

Speaker 2:
[16:42] We have the latest coming up?

Speaker 15:
[16:43] Yes, we do. I heard y'all talking about Drake this morning. So we got a release date. We also got some exclusive details. I called over to Canada yesterday, so we're gonna get into those as well.

Speaker 3:
[16:53] They knocked the ice down fast.

Speaker 15:
[16:55] Oh, we're gonna talk about that.

Speaker 2:
[16:56] I think he knew where that was, but we'll get into that next. The latest with Lauren's coming up, So Don't Move, is The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 15:
[17:03] Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down, I'm being myself.

Speaker 4:
[17:07] Yeah, the source is my story.

Speaker 15:
[17:09] I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

Speaker 3:
[17:13] Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

Speaker 2:
[17:18] Cool, she gone.

Speaker 13:
[17:19] The latest with Lauren Olson. On The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 15:
[17:26] All right, y'all. So yesterday, we found out the release date for Drake's Iceman. It'll be releasing on May 15th. So we finally have a date.

Speaker 4:
[17:34] Is there any significance to that date? I know five plus one is six.

Speaker 15:
[17:39] And then he used the white, blue, and red, like the Icy. No, because there is a booklet that came with the whole release. And there's some things, the little Easter eggs that we're going to get into, that people have been pointing out. But the way that it was found. So remember I told you guys about the huge art installation, the ice installation at Drake putting it downtown Toronto. So yesterday, a streamer, his name is Kishka, he was there for a couple of days. He climbed on top of this installation. Now mind y'all, the installation is 15 feet high, 20 feet long, 15 feet wide. It weighs roughly a million pounds, right? So it's not built for you to just be on top of it. But he's up there and he talks a bit on his stream about how he broke through the ice. Let's take a listen to streamer on how he got down.

Speaker 11:
[18:20] Well, I used a diamond pickaxe. At first I tried campfires, campfires weren't working. I pulled it yesterday.

Speaker 10:
[18:24] I'm not gonna lie, I was with an iron pickaxe.

Speaker 15:
[18:26] It wasn't working.

Speaker 16:
[18:26] Today I had to pull out the diamond pickaxe.

Speaker 11:
[18:28] Top layer, but second row and it all worked out.

Speaker 2:
[18:31] Yeah, he knew what that was. He knew exactly where that was.

Speaker 15:
[18:34] So there have been-

Speaker 2:
[18:35] It seemed like it to me.

Speaker 15:
[18:36] Yes, that's what I said, because all those people that were there the couple of days that it was there were up on the top, they were on the bottom, they were everywhere. So how did he know where it was? So there have been some fan pages that have been pointing out the fact that there may have been a clue that was dropped in his stream after there was a drone that flew over the art installation. But let's get into what he found. So after he found- It was like a blue package. Blue bag, yeah. Blue bag. It said freeze the world. So then he's on FaceTime with Aiden Rawls, who is a streamer who's friends with Drake, tells him to go to Drake's home because there's like a gift or a prize there for him, right? So he gets to Drake's house and he opens up this booklet with the May 15th day in it. In the booklet, there's a few things that are happening. So there's like a photo of Drake, photo of Drake's dad, but on one page of the booklet, there's like the Iceman and then you have a photo of Sexy Red, who fans now believe are going to be on Iceman as a feature. I was told that that is definitely something you can look forward to is her on the project. But on the other side of that, there's a Pinocchio with like a sniper target on it. And the Pinocchio, he used throughout some of the Iceman, like the visuals he was dropping. And fans believe that this is pointing to like the whole Kendrick Lamar situation and the lies that he alleged were told on him because of the whole pedophile thing. But yeah, so they've been-

Speaker 4:
[19:48] A lot of Drake fans love when Pinocchio puts their nose in their butt and they lie on purpose.

Speaker 15:
[19:52] Hey, yo.

Speaker 11:
[19:56] Imagine that, yo.

Speaker 15:
[19:57] But Drake was actually at the house when he pulled up. He was like in a window. He came to the window and then they brought out some money for him. It was like $50,000 in Canadian money for the streamer. So I mean, look, now we know when the album is coming and we potentially know one of the features from what I was told.

Speaker 2:
[20:13] Did Drake come out the house or no, he didn't come out the house?

Speaker 15:
[20:15] He didn't come out the house. He was in the window though. You could see him in the window and he was trying to say something, but you couldn't really hear him because he was kind of far. But yeah, so now we have the date.

Speaker 2:
[20:22] And 50,000 Canadian dollars is 36,000 US.

Speaker 1:
[20:27] So you gave him 36,000 cash.

Speaker 4:
[20:28] What the hell are you care for? What the hell are you care for? They ain't Canada.

Speaker 2:
[20:32] It don't matter, I'm just telling Americans who are listening, what is 50,000 Canada dollars virtual? Okay.

Speaker 4:
[20:38] We'll be honest man, to all the Drake fan pages and OVO lovers, I see why y'all be in our comments saying all we do is talk about Drake. It really does feel like that, okay? I get it, because I don't care about any of this that much, right? I'm glad that you want Pinocchio's nose in your butt and you want to lie about it. You're going to keep lying and lying and lying so you can feel it in your gut.

Speaker 10:
[20:55] He's just one of the biggest rappers ever, sir.

Speaker 4:
[20:59] Sexy Red is going to be on the album. Woo, woo.

Speaker 10:
[21:01] Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 15:
[21:03] You're not going to listen to Iceman when he drops?

Speaker 10:
[21:05] You are a Drake hater.

Speaker 4:
[21:07] I'm not a hater. It's just like, okay.

Speaker 3:
[21:09] He's not going to be running to listen to it.

Speaker 4:
[21:11] No, not at all. I ain't about to run and slip on no ice, no frozen. I'm not about to run and slip on no frozen semen. All right? Jesus Christ. That's what's going to be there anyway. I'm not going to be able to get to the album.

Speaker 2:
[21:20] But there's a lot of women that love Drake, too. It's going to be a dope album. I'm excited about the project.

Speaker 15:
[21:24] Yeah, so yesterday at the close of all this, after we found out the date, I contacted police in Toronto who told me that they had actually shut it down because they were deeming it unsafe because the ice started to melt and it was shifting and they didn't want people climbing on it. And then I saw fire trucks come and like started to melt the ice. So that's all going away now. It was fun.

Speaker 4:
[21:42] Jess, your wig is to the right now.

Speaker 3:
[21:46] Your wig falling off to the left. It looks fine.

Speaker 2:
[21:50] It looks fine.

Speaker 15:
[21:51] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[21:52] It looks fine.

Speaker 3:
[21:53] I'm dumb because I looked the first time. Like, what do you mean? Yo, just shut up.

Speaker 15:
[21:57] I know the feeling, Jess. I remember.

Speaker 2:
[22:02] Now, also, there was rumors that he's possibly performing at FIFA. Is that true? Did you hear anything about that?

Speaker 15:
[22:06] I did see those rumors, but I haven't confirmed anything. But I did see yesterday one of his really close friends posted something about the Scarborough team in Toronto on that same date. So I don't know if they plan to do something with the release there on that date as well, too. But I have heard rumors about the FIFA thing as well, too, but nothing that I've been able to confirm. That would be huge. I mean, yeah, but it's Drake, right? So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. So we have a release date, something to look forward to. I have a question for y'all as we wrap. So we were talking about this yesterday when we were preparing the coverage. Do y'all feel like it's a rollout? So it's supposed to be a bit performative. But do you guys feel like this rollout Drake was trying, he was more attention seeking than he's been in other rollouts because you don't get any music with this rollout?

Speaker 4:
[22:48] I hate when people say that. And the reason I hate when people say that is because that is what rollouts are supposed to do, garner you attention. So if you are getting attention from a rollout, that's a good thing. The Iceman rollout has been great. I ain't going to sit here and act like it hasn't been.

Speaker 2:
[23:01] I think that was a dope rollout. I'm just mad that it didn't take a couple extra days. I felt like it should have been there a couple more days when people really trying to get there to do that.

Speaker 15:
[23:10] I thought it was fun.

Speaker 4:
[23:12] They put out music. What was that song when he had the guns in the video and all of that was part of the Iceman rollout? He was riding through the city in an ice truck or something like that? Or something like that?

Speaker 15:
[23:23] I think what I mean is when you think about a God's Plan and some of the other things. Remember he did a God's Plan? He was like, we had the song in the video. We had something. It seemed a little bit more in line. It was like we got that music and then this whole part of the rollout started. Everything has seemed very compartmentalized.

Speaker 2:
[23:39] This is also without the record label, right? Because we don't know if the record label is going to support because he's actually suing the label that's supposed to be putting out his music and distributing his music. Okay, so we're seeing Drake without the label so far because this is all Drake.

Speaker 4:
[23:50] Yo, Drake fan pages, y'all are absolutely correct. Ten minutes on Aubrey. God damn. I mean, y'all are right. Y'all won. Y'all won. All of your lovers, y'all won, bro. Y'all got it. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. You ain't even got to get in our comments and say it. Now, go ahead, clip this up. Y'all won. You're right. The whole ten minutes on ice, man. All I needed to know was to come out May 15th. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 15:
[24:18] Well, that was the latest for the island.

Speaker 4:
[24:20] You over there bricked up Eli. Look, Eli wiping his chin off.

Speaker 15:
[24:23] He said he wore blue today, too.

Speaker 4:
[24:25] Yeah.

Speaker 15:
[24:26] Iceman.

Speaker 2:
[24:27] All right. Well, that was the latest with Laura. Now, when we come back, we have front page news. Mimi will be joining us. And next out, we got more Drake, right?

Speaker 1:
[24:43] Pull up Drake, it's The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10:
[24:44] Come on, pull up Drake.

Speaker 2:
[24:45] Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now, quick, NBA, the 76ers beat the Celtics 111.97. The Trail Blazers beat the Spurs 106.103, and the Lakers beat the Rockets 101.94. What's up, Mimi?

Speaker 5:
[25:04] Iceman, how y'all doing?

Speaker 4:
[25:05] Peace, Mimi Brown.

Speaker 12:
[25:06] Good morning, world. Good morning.

Speaker 5:
[25:08] So, we start this hour with an apology from Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host now saying he regrets supporting Donald Trump. Let's listen.

Speaker 17:
[25:16] Supported him. He wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this, for sure. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind. Or like, oh, this is bad. I'm out. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. We'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say, I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But the question does present itself immediately. Like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that. But it didn't, there are tons of people of low character who like outperform their character.

Speaker 4:
[25:58] I mean, listen, he's right. He got conned. The thing I don't agree with is he said, it wasn't intentional. It was intentional to push Donald Trump on America. If you chose to get behind a candidate and endorse a candidate, you were intentional about endorsing that candidate. So you can't say it wasn't intentional. It definitely wasn't intentional.

Speaker 5:
[26:15] Definitely wasn't intentional. Of course, he was one of Trump's biggest supporters. He was pushed out of Fox News in 2023 during that, those voting machines, during the false claims, during the voting machines saga, that scandal. And of course, he later rebuilt his platform as a podcaster, even reconnecting with Trump before now breaking with him publicly again. But I think, you know, when you look at their history, the two of them back in 2021, Carlson said that he hated Trump. He also said that he failed at everything. These are text messages that have been made public. And he also said that he's good at destroying things. And then back in 2024, apparently he forgave all that, or that wasn't a big enough deal breaker for him. And he started campaigning for him. And so this is someone who speaks out of both sides of their mouth and has profited from, you know, where we see Trump at now.

Speaker 4:
[27:05] Yeah. And I don't know if he's sincere or not, but it doesn't matter, right? Like, Democrats need to be clipping that and putting it in campaign ads in the future. Everywhere. Because the reality is whoever Tucker Carlson pushes for in 2028, you know, if it's still somebody from MAGA, they should be running ads with Tucker and saying things like, are you going to listen to someone who got it so wrong before? Remember, this is the individual who told you to vote for this back in 2024. Now, he's telling you to vote for this in 2028. You're going to listen to him again. So Democrats, remember that for campaign ads in the future, please.

Speaker 5:
[27:42] Absolutely. All right. And switching gears here a little bit, have you all ever flown on Spirit Airlines?

Speaker 4:
[27:48] F Spirit. Spirit owe me money right now. Spirit owe me about $73.96. Booked a flight on Spirit, a one-way to Los Angeles and they canceled it on a bright and sunny day for no reason. Never got through the customer service. They owe me money right now. I can't listen about Spirit.

Speaker 2:
[28:04] Only once because I had to. My Delta flight was canceled and I had to fly on that bus in the sky. And I was disappointed. I didn't know it was the first come first serve. You got to run on to get your seat. Like I was confused. People were running past me. I'm like, why are they running past me? And they're diving, they're holding seats for family members who didn't pay.

Speaker 4:
[28:22] I thought that was Southwest.

Speaker 3:
[28:23] I didn't know you can do that.

Speaker 4:
[28:25] I didn't know that was Spirit. Southwest is the one that you used to pick your seats on Southwest. Oh, maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2:
[28:30] Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm confusing both buses in the sky.

Speaker 4:
[28:33] First of all, stop disrespecting buses, all right? Buses are way better than Spirit Airlines.

Speaker 2:
[28:36] Oh, damn.

Speaker 4:
[28:37] Well, go ahead, Mimi. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3:
[28:38] Anyway, but yeah, I've never flown Spirit ever.

Speaker 5:
[28:42] Now, Jess, you might be the only one out of us that have not flown on Spirit. Well, the low-cost budget airline is now asking your help. They need you to help save it. According to reports, Spirit is in serious financial trouble and they are now exploring the idea of using taxpayer money to stay afloat. So the company is already there in bankruptcy for the second time in less than a year and raising those rising fuel costs from the war in Iran as we've been talking. They're making things worse. Let's listen to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy.

Speaker 18:
[29:13] But the question will be, does the federal government step in and bail out an airline? No. For a very long time has been well. No decision has been made. But there are real factors. A lot of people work for Spirit. We care about the people that work for Spirit in this industry. But the question will be, will we, can we do anything to save Spirit and make it viable? Or would we be putting good money into a company that never be is going to be liquidated?

Speaker 4:
[29:43] First of all, good and good company should never be mentioned when you're talking about Spirit Airlines. They owe me $73.69. I've never flown Spirit because they owe me money from a flight.

Speaker 2:
[29:52] Wait a minute. It was going to cost you $73 to fly to New York.

Speaker 4:
[29:55] That was the whole thing about Spirit back in the day. $73? It was cheap as hell and they just canceled the flight for no reason. So don't piss me off, Transportation Secretary. You're already pissing us off by sending all that money over to all of these other countries. The funnest BS war. Don't give no money to Spirit. I want none of my taxpayer dollars going to Spirit.

Speaker 2:
[30:13] Does that have a seat or you got to stand up and hold the thing?

Speaker 3:
[30:16] That's a little too good to be true, right? $73 to fly from coast to coast. Crazy.

Speaker 4:
[30:23] This is back in the day though.

Speaker 3:
[30:24] Oh, crazy.

Speaker 5:
[30:26] Well, let me play devil's advocate for a minute because here's why Spirit matters.

Speaker 4:
[30:29] I'm glad you said the devil.

Speaker 3:
[30:30] You're good.

Speaker 5:
[30:31] Char, you know what I mean. Here's why Spirit matters even if you never plan on stepping a foot on that plane, right? Because those low-budget carriers, they tend to bring costs down in the markets that they operate in. So if they go away, then fares will go up for everyone. So for an example, in Minneapolis-Saint Paul, after Spirit left that area, those fares that had to compete with Delta now, they went up by 50%. So that means everyone ends up paying more when those low-cost budget airlines go away. So just something to think about, you know, we've got Southwest, we've got Spirit. If they do leave those areas, we are going to have to.

Speaker 3:
[31:07] So that's supposed to make us care enough to save Spirit?

Speaker 5:
[31:11] I didn't say that. I'm just throwing, giving you all the options. Really quickly before we end, I just want to talk about this. Four former presidents, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they sat down for a rare conversation ahead of America's 250th birthday, sharing one message saying that they still believe in this country. And those interviews, they were done by Bush, Jenna Bush Hager at the History Channel. It's an event that's going to come up focused on the nation's future and asking each of them what gives them hope. But now this morning in that same conversation, former president George W. Bush, also shared that back story. Do you remember that when him and Michelle Obama were sitting next to each other and they were laughing and it kind of went viral, the two of them? Well, he's sharing the back story behind that. Let's listen really quick.

Speaker 19:
[31:53] And I was sitting next to Michelle. That's what happened. That's who I sit next to at funerals. And that's kind of teasing her and stuff. And I slipped her an Altoid. Not as a joke, but I thought she might want one. And I got in the car afterwards and he said, You're trending. I didn't know what trending meant. And it turns out the country has starved to see a white center-right Republican and an African-American center-left Democrat having fun and being able to converse not as political figures, but as citizens. And I intend to continue to try to do that.

Speaker 3:
[32:29] Who you say that was?

Speaker 5:
[32:30] That was George W.

Speaker 19:
[32:31] Bush.

Speaker 4:
[32:31] George W. Bush, a man who used to be known as the worst president of my lifetime. You remember that? I'm old enough to remember when George Bush was considered the antichrist, when he was the one that was leading us into unjust wars on the false premises of weapons of mass destruction. And when he caused the economy to collapse and when he had a slow response to Hurricane Katrina, I'm old enough to remember things like the Patriot Act, when our civil liberties were curtailed. I'm old enough to remember those things. But now he's the old guy that Michelle Obama likes to play with and take candy from, you know?

Speaker 2:
[33:09] Yeah, at funerals. When we're at funerals, we always sit together.

Speaker 3:
[33:11] Yeah, that's what I do. I sit next to Michelle at funerals.

Speaker 4:
[33:14] I'm old enough to remember. I'm old enough to remember how him ignoring certain intel caused things like 9-11, okay? I'm old enough to remember these things, y'all, you know?

Speaker 5:
[33:24] Yeah, well, and here we are in 2026. So, all right, y'all. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me for more stories and follow me on Instagram at Mimi Brown TV.

Speaker 3:
[33:35] All right.

Speaker 5:
[33:36] Thank you, Mimi. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[33:38] God's talking to him through him this morning.

Speaker 3:
[33:40] I know, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:41] He's not listening unless he hear God's words.

Speaker 3:
[33:43] I just learned a lot though.

Speaker 4:
[33:45] All right. That's what happens. What did I say other than the truth? Yeah. I didn't say nothing wrong, just now.

Speaker 2:
[33:50] All right. When we come back, we have Kenya Barris joining us, of course, director, writer. He has a new documentary, Jerry West, The Logo. He's on Prime Video now, and we'll talk to him next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, and he's wearing an athlete chain, right? There's different types of jewelry. There's an artist chain, and then there's an athlete chain. He's wearing an athlete chain on right now. Ladies and gentlemen, we have director Kenya Barris here. Welcome.

Speaker 3:
[34:19] What's up?

Speaker 2:
[34:20] How you feeling, man?

Speaker 3:
[34:21] So good.

Speaker 4:
[34:21] Expound on that, man. Well, how you doing? What's it do between the athletes and the artist chain?

Speaker 2:
[34:25] There was this thing online that when you see a rapper wear a chain, it doesn't shine like when you see an athlete wear a chain. So if you look at this chain, this is a different glistening, it's different shine and dancing right there. They move rules.

Speaker 4:
[34:38] So why not just a real money chain?

Speaker 10:
[34:42] I like that. Rappers got real money too?

Speaker 4:
[34:44] I guess so, but that's debatable. That's debatable.

Speaker 10:
[34:48] Well, welcome.

Speaker 2:
[34:49] So how are you feeling?

Speaker 20:
[34:50] I feel good. It's a good stop.

Speaker 4:
[34:51] Now, how did they trust a black man with the Jerry West documentary?

Speaker 2:
[34:55] I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 4:
[34:56] The Logo!

Speaker 20:
[34:56] Bro, it's crazy. I got the chance to meet him. My manager at the time, Brian Dobbins, was like, he's interviewing people. And I was like, I'm not going to get this job. So I was like, but I do get the chance to meet Jerry West. So I went in there and in five minutes, you know, you can tell certain white people when they're comfortable around black people. You can tell the moment you sat down. Like, it was like this dude had no... And like we immediately started clicking. And he's just funny. He's just a straight shooter. And he kind of reminds you of like your uncle. You know what I'm saying? Or like, you know, like somebody like says what's on their mind, cussing up a storm, funny. He was getting off the treadmill, he's 80 years old, with weights, he was like, man, I'm so pissed. I was like, I had an injury and I can't run like I used to. And I'm like, if you ever see me on a treadmill with weights, this is my run for the month. And I was like, at 80, if I can do that. So we just hit it off and I was, I immediately knew I wanted to do whatever to try to get it.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] Now, how did Jerry West become the logo of the NBA? I'm sure you break it down in the documentary.

Speaker 4:
[35:58] White privilege.

Speaker 20:
[35:59] That's what I said.

Speaker 2:
[36:00] But how did that happen? I asked all the players in the NBA, why Jerry?

Speaker 20:
[36:04] I said what Sharla said, right? And that was one of the reasons I wanted to do it, because I always like to try to make up hypotheses and try to disprove or prove it. I was like, this dude was the one white dude who could play. As I did the documentary, he absolutely earned it. Absolutely, positively. Nobody else should get it.

Speaker 4:
[36:24] How, though? Well, I wasn't about to say up until now. He's probably one of the greatest losers in NBA history. Championship-wise. He lost, what, seven finals?

Speaker 20:
[36:37] Yeah, went there seven times in one.

Speaker 4:
[36:38] Yeah, and one-one?

Speaker 20:
[36:39] One-one. But he got there seven times. But game-wise, if you hoop, dude still to this day has the highest points for a game, playoff scoring average, with no three-point line. So that's just going mid-range, 12, 15 footers, 100 shot in a game. And that's just, he wasn't dunking the ball. It's just a dude who could just hoop. And he was almost leading the league in assists. And when I talked to Jordan, that's what kind of changed everything for me.

Speaker 2:
[37:07] Really? Why?

Speaker 20:
[37:08] Because it was, I'm a fan. I had to like not fan out when I was sitting down, but Jordan got so serious about Jerry, I stopped becoming a fan because you could tell how serious he was about him. And he said like, you know, if for him, like when he sees like his lineage, he said it was Jerry, him and Kobe. And like they all were friends. And he was like, but they say, and I kind of immediately saw like they all have that same kind of dog. They would leave it all out in the court, kill you on the court, you know what I'm saying? And that kind of translated into the life. So I was like, it changed how everybody said yes about Jerry. And then everybody kind of had that same sort of story.

Speaker 2:
[37:43] You know, everybody's been talking for the last, I guess, 10 years that the NBA should change the logo to Kobe.

Speaker 20:
[37:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:48] What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 20:
[37:50] I think Jerry probably would have been like, yeah, because he loved Kobe so much. I feel like Kobe probably would have been like, no. I think that there's something to Jerry represent. He was there almost from like the nascent, when NBA was like 1,200 people in the arena to all the way to, that's why we got so many, you know, he had such a through line. And I kind of think everything doesn't have to change. You know what I'm saying? Sometime it's like he represented, he actually earned it, and he was such a statesman as a player, as a coach, as a GM, as an exec. I think that's the right, you know, they don't, I think, and the only person, I mean, Kobe, Jordan, Jordan.

Speaker 2:
[38:28] Well, Jordan can't, because I mean, he can't.

Speaker 20:
[38:29] It's true, you know what I'm saying? And I felt like, I don't quite know what Kobe's logo would be, you know what I'm saying? Is it the jumper? Is it like, you know what I'm saying? What do you represent? You know what I'm saying? And I felt like they had a bunch of different versions of the logo. And he kind of was, there's a certain elegance to it, and it just, I see that it represents the NBA to me now.

Speaker 4:
[38:50] Yeah, and let's be clear, the logo is fire. Let's not act like the NBA logo is not fire, but also it's right place, right time, right? 1969, you need a logo for your company. Jerry West does this little lean coming down the court. It makes sense.

Speaker 20:
[39:02] It does.

Speaker 4:
[39:03] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[39:04] I'm sorry.

Speaker 20:
[39:04] No, go ahead.

Speaker 3:
[39:05] Was it easy to get the project green-lighted?

Speaker 20:
[39:07] Yeah. So it went, the first, it was at Showtime, right? And Showtime Sports, and then Paramount went through all their stuff, it went away. We got it back and then it became a bidding war for us. And we, Amazon was unbelievably, went after it and wanted it. And we loved the idea that Amazon had, I just got the playoffs. And they really actually understood what we wanted to do. Like they really got behind us and understood. It's crazy, like when they get behind stuff, their reach is so far. Everybody thinks Netflix, but Amazon's reach goes far because of what they can sell and NBA and NFL. So it was, I think that was the right place to do it.

Speaker 2:
[39:52] Does he get paid off with the logo?

Speaker 20:
[39:54] No, I think that's the thing that we're talking about. They never admitted it before this documentary. They never like said that he would admit that he was the logo. And I think it was because David Stern was like, if we say he's the logo and we haven't paid him, we got to write him a check. If he wanted to go back, that's a check check. And so they never wanted to do it. But then Adam Silver just being cool and like loving Jerry and knowing the family. Jerry liked it and didn't like it. And so they finally admitted it. It's an honor.

Speaker 2:
[40:27] But they didn't cut up a check. They just admitted it and have fun.

Speaker 20:
[40:29] I mean, not to my knowledge. I think the family is like, the honor itself is enough.

Speaker 2:
[40:35] Did he see the finished project before he passed? No.

Speaker 20:
[40:38] He did see some things and we went over clips and he saw things. He would not have wanted to see it until the... He didn't like seeing himself on camera and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:
[40:49] Who was the most interesting person that you spoke with during the documentary? You spoke to Shaq, you spoke to Steph, you spoke to Kareem, you spoke to Mike. Maj.

Speaker 20:
[40:58] Maj was Maj because I think Mike or MJ or Maj.

Speaker 4:
[41:02] Why?

Speaker 20:
[41:03] Well, Mike because...

Speaker 4:
[41:04] Who's Maj? Maj. Oh, you must go on the boat with him on the summer.

Speaker 20:
[41:10] We grew up with Maj. He's jink or he's mad, you know what I'm saying? But one, because he went through what he went through. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:
[41:17] Another three letters.

Speaker 20:
[41:18] Yes. At the time, those were the letters. Everybody at my age remembers where they were at when Maj got and said that thing. I was sitting with my dad and we were watching like what? You know what I'm saying? At that point, you thought it was the death sentence.

Speaker 4:
[41:34] What'd your dad really say? I know what my dad said.

Speaker 2:
[41:37] You can't say those words either anymore.

Speaker 4:
[41:39] No, we ain't say the words. The truth to the matter is a lot of older men, especially older than me, my dad, they immediately thought he was gay.

Speaker 20:
[41:47] Yeah, because at that time, everybody, and we also thought he was going to die.

Speaker 2:
[41:51] Yes.

Speaker 20:
[41:52] That was the biggest thing. It was like the idea of like he's not going to make it. You know what I'm saying? To see that he's not only that, he's become a multi-billionaire, multiple team owner, super businessman like that.

Speaker 4:
[42:05] But probably healthier than us.

Speaker 20:
[42:07] Beyond, not probably. You know what I'm saying? But to see him have as much love and affinity as he did for Jerry and to tell that story, he started getting teary because that was one of the first people he told. So that was a really, I really appreciated him being honest and so just transparent with that. And then Mike, just Mike doesn't talk to a lot of people. And like the way Mike, we went over in time and just, you know, the idea like he was like, I would have loved to play Jerry. You know what I'm saying? Like I think we would have had a great get, like just hearing those two dudes from where they're at talk about this man. They don't have, they have, everybody, you know, when you're doing documentaries, you got to get people's schedule and time. And it's not even people like not wanting to do it. Sometimes it's like lining stuff up. Everybody said yes, you know what I'm saying? And I was shocked at how many people said yes.

Speaker 4:
[43:03] Let's talk about Kenya, man. Do you feel more powerful now?

Speaker 20:
[43:07] No, no.

Speaker 4:
[43:08] Or just more responsible?

Speaker 20:
[43:11] I feel more, I feel scared.

Speaker 4:
[43:14] Really?

Speaker 20:
[43:14] Because we're in a different age now. Like it's like, I'm sure y'all feel it in here. You know what I'm saying? Like you just feel like you can just say whatever you want. You've had this show long enough where you should be, but now, do you second guess yourself sometimes? I'm scared every day. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[43:28] I'm not scared. No, not because of that. I think it's because I feel more responsible.

Speaker 20:
[43:33] But you always have felt like that's always been like, you wanted to carry the people, do this and so on. But now there's an attack that used to be kind of quiet. Now it's like an openness to like, you know what I'm saying? Like, shut up. You know what I'm saying? They don't even care. Like they're like, the idea of the environment we're in now, we've, I've never seen, we're just talking to Greenland about, you know, president putting himself as Jesus, you know what I'm saying? Easter Day tweets, USC fights on the lawn, and, you know, open, openly saying end to DEI. You know what I'm saying? Like, that used to be kind of the whispers and like the, they don't whisper it anymore. You know what I'm saying? So if you're in a situation, I was, I was big up, way up here when I saw you guys on Netflix number one. I was like, that's, that's so important. You know what I'm saying? When you see those moments of like us winning in places where we're amongst everybody else. That's why Coogler was so important. You know what I'm saying? Coogler was my hero because what he did with Panther, and then everything he touches, he takes his time, does one thing at a time, which I need to do more of, but takes his time, does one thing at a time, does it to such a high level, but he's telling our stories. And you know that's pissing people off. Of course. But I think that's what you have to do. You have to make sure if you're going to do it, you do it the best you can.

Speaker 2:
[44:54] Do you look for those pieces now, those pieces that mean more than just making a check?

Speaker 20:
[44:58] Yes, 100%. And I think if you change-

Speaker 4:
[45:00] Yeah, then you done made all the money now.

Speaker 20:
[45:02] Yeah, I mean, not only that, but you want to keep making, the money goes away. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like the thing that will last is, people say you do good work. You know what I'm saying? That's why when you guys went over and it's like, all of a sudden, it's like, well, is this happening? Or is this dropping off or not? You know what I'm saying? I think you guys went to BET for a second. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:
[45:20] Yeah, we've done this a few times. We was on Revolt first, then we was on BET, then we jumped to 2B, and then now, definitely.

Speaker 20:
[45:28] And I feel like being at the number one place and being number one in that thing, it matters, not just for, but for the longevity and the legacy of what you do. Because it's like you never know when you make that leap. If you're making a leap and you're like, I should just stay where I was at. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I think the idea now is like, I want to do stuff that matters. I want to do stuff that has a voice. I'm doing a movie with Tiana out here. It's her directorial debut. I want her to kill it. I want her to sort of like, she's taking a pay cut, a discount because she cares about this movie. I feel like I got to care about her and get her through. I want it to be dope. I feel like that's the next thing is really sort of like making sure everything I do, I've released at least try to make it dope.

Speaker 4:
[46:15] It's interesting what you said about because of the air that we're in with the Trump air. I feel like that's when you should be louder. You know what I mean? When the president called me out, I was like, good.

Speaker 20:
[46:27] What did he say?

Speaker 4:
[46:28] He said I was a racist sleazebag with a low IQ.

Speaker 6:
[46:31] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[46:32] He didn't say dumb idiots, show it.

Speaker 4:
[46:34] He didn't say all that.

Speaker 6:
[46:35] He just said a lot of other stuff.

Speaker 4:
[46:37] The gist of it was I was a racist sleazebag with low IQ. It's funny because whenever I critique him now, and they ask the White House, the White House just says, refer back to that post from August of 2025. But I feel like you should do that. I made the comments I made on Fox News with Laura Ingraham, his stepdaughter. I feel like you should post to do that.

Speaker 20:
[47:00] I left Black-ish because of him.

Speaker 4:
[47:03] Tell the story, Ken.

Speaker 20:
[47:04] I mean, that was what happened when I left.

Speaker 4:
[47:06] I've heard about this before.

Speaker 20:
[47:08] They were, you know, basically some people were higher-ups, not Bob Iger, Bob Iger is cast as a CEO, as best CEO ever, but the merger between Fox and Disney was about that, and it had to get, it needed presidential approval. And we had done an episode that talked about him, and they were afraid that he was petty enough to not, if we erred it, to not let the merger go through. And I was like, that's not how this works. You know what I'm saying? Like, I went through all the approvals, the episode was ready to air, it went through all the checks and I was like, I was like, you're making, this is not fair to the people who watch this show. You know what I'm saying? And so I was like, I can't be here anymore. I was like, it felt like censorship. And Iger supported me, I'm saying, in a way he didn't have to. He was like, he supported the idea that they didn't have to let me out of my deal, but they did. And I feel like he put up my, you know what I'm saying? It's not crazy. I have a tweet where he was like, Black-ish, that's as awful. Could you imagine if they had a show called White-ish, I'm saying, and I'm over back there, it's called Friends, I'm saying like, the idea, but it was those moments, I remember I had got audited, I'm saying like those little things, like is this an accident? So I just feel like you're in a different, we're in a different, they're coming back, they're attacking, we feel like they're in a different place and they can do whatever they want.

Speaker 4:
[48:28] And that's why you was able to still be at ABC, but didn't go negotiate with Netflix and everything else?

Speaker 20:
[48:35] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[48:35] Wow.

Speaker 20:
[48:36] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[48:36] They didn't want you to blow up their spot probably back then, because you couldn't prove that it.

Speaker 20:
[48:40] No, but it would have been. Yeah, and I had nothing there, I didn't want to hurt Bob or hurt any of the people there, you know what I'm saying, but I also didn't feel right being there if I couldn't tell the story the way that I thought we should be telling it. So I wanted to go somewhere else and Netflix was open to do that.

Speaker 4:
[48:56] And it was an episode about Colin Kaepernick, I heard.

Speaker 20:
[48:59] Yeah, it was Colin Kaepernick, but he was in it, but it was an episode, it really was about the kneeling and how crazy the kneeling was way before the Floyd thing happened and how the sort of celestial irony of that that's what he was saying, kneeling and then someone kneels like the idea of like, I was like, nobody's not how people are talking about that. And so that was really what it was about. And we were just afraid that it would piss him off.

Speaker 4:
[49:24] And cause the merger between Disney and Fox and not to go through.

Speaker 20:
[49:27] Yeah, at that time which was the biggest merger in entertainment history.

Speaker 4:
[49:30] Wow, you were smart though the way you played it.

Speaker 20:
[49:33] Yeah. Oh, I came out, I was like, oh, it's played out. It's worked.

Speaker 4:
[49:38] You still had all the issues with ABC.

Speaker 20:
[49:41] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[49:41] And then you had all your Netflix stuff going on.

Speaker 20:
[49:43] It worked.

Speaker 4:
[49:44] Wow.

Speaker 20:
[49:45] But I mean, but it didn't have to, I remember being in my office, like I'm blowing my career. I remember coming home, my kids were like, are you okay? Because I didn't know that was going to happen. Like it could have went anyway.

Speaker 4:
[49:54] Why did you feel like you were blowing your career?

Speaker 20:
[49:55] Because it could have went anyway. I didn't have a job. I didn't know I had a job when I said I quit. I'm saying I said I didn't want to do this. I didn't know I had a job, but I didn't know what was going to happen. But it was, it worked out. And the show went on for a long time. And Anthony and Tracy blew up and they kept doing it. But I feel like it was, for me, I was scared.

Speaker 2:
[50:16] Would you do another show like that that shows black families?

Speaker 20:
[50:19] I would too. I did it for me. It was different. I was a little bit more edgy and stuff like that. But I wanted to just go back to talking about stuff.

Speaker 2:
[50:28] I mean, I talk about it all the time. I came from, of course, the Cosby show in a different world era. And I tell everybody all the time, the reason I went to Hampton was because it reminded me of a different world. The reason I do some of the things with my kids now is because I remember the Cosby show and how it made me feel. And I would just feel like we missed a lot of that seeing that on television.

Speaker 20:
[50:46] Yeah, I want to do it again. There's one I want to do something about going through a divorce. And maybe not knowing if you want to get divorced, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't go outside. But because I think so many kids deal with divorce, and you don't really see the effect, you know what I'm saying? It had, particularly on my sons for me, I'm saying, and I feel like, and then your wife has a glow up, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, every black woman after she gets divorced gets better looking, you know what I'm saying? And you look out and you're like, it's same hoes, different clothes out there. And I had a moment when I got divorced and I was like going through all these stats of like, there was a stat going around, like if you're over six feet, you know, not morbidly obese, and make over this year in the three percentile of the dating pool. And I was like, what if you're black? I was like, you know, and I was like, I'm going to be a unicorn. And then I got out there and I was like, what am I doing? And then I went back and I was trying to get back and she was like, well, here's the stat I have for you. Did you know that men on average who get divorced live five years less and women on average divorced live five years longer? You can pick up the kids Friday at five. Damn. So I mean, I want to, I want to do, I mean, I miss, I do miss that about network television or like how you guys can get on every day and like be topical. Network television felt topical. It felt like you could kind of be in the conversation and actually talk about stuff that people were going through. So I do miss that.

Speaker 4:
[52:09] But do you think TV still has that power in the screaming era or has the culture moved to social media and stuff like podcasts and Breakfast Club, things like that?

Speaker 20:
[52:17] I think podcasts are the most powerful venue in terms of entertainment. Because in which you can do in terms of being topical, they put Trump in office. Like we don't say a lot of the podcasters have a lot to do with, you know, Aiden Ross and that stuff like.

Speaker 4:
[52:31] I don't believe that.

Speaker 20:
[52:32] I do.

Speaker 4:
[52:34] I think we give, I'm not going to say that they didn't have some type of influence. Man, we give them way too much credit. I think it was more about what Democrats weren't doing in that moment as opposed to what a bunch of podcasters did.

Speaker 20:
[52:46] Well, I think the Democratic Party has to start getting some real walks. I feel like the whole, it was a great statement that Michelle Obama said when she was like when they go low, we go high. We might need to go low sometime too. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you got to fight with who you're fighting with. But I feel like podcasters, I was talking to someone, they were talking about Kai. They were like, Leonardo DiCaprio can walk down the streets or whatever. But when Kai walks down the street, people feel like they know him differently. You know what I'm saying? And there's a different like relationship. They don't feel like he's a. And I think that is more a relationship that reaches like voters and the people, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like it is. There is nothing on every day that people can like. Everyone goes with this. Something's happening. They come to see what y'all are talking about that day. If y'all are going to talk about it, who you have on. If you got to do that in streaming, you got to wait three months, five months, six months because it can't. Network television used to be able to keep up with it, but there's nothing now that like lets you keep up with it. Like you guys can do what you want to do. Like you know what I'm saying? You've now been through it enough. You get to do what you want to do. Like they can't, I mean, I'm filming a jing, but they can't cancel you. You know what I'm saying? Like you can go to your platform and you have an audience. Whether it works in Netflix, you'll figure something else out. I think that's what we need more of is like, so you can go do it and do it a little bit fearlessly, even though you're still going to be scared, but you can do a little bit fearlessly.

Speaker 4:
[54:14] I enjoy the Netflix thing, but I think, you know, what we do is unique because video is just one part of the way people consume us. So we can take chances with the video, right? Because our primary is radio.

Speaker 20:
[54:26] Will you guys edit that show?

Speaker 4:
[54:29] As far as what?

Speaker 20:
[54:30] On Netflix, is it edited or is it the same show we're used to?

Speaker 4:
[54:33] Oh, it's the same show.

Speaker 2:
[54:34] Yeah, yeah. But the only difference is we've got to take out music and commercials and things like that, of course. You won't see that on there.

Speaker 4:
[54:39] But it's the same content? Same content. Right now, we're being recorded. If it wasn't on Netflix, it would have been on YouTube. But the primary is radio, so you've got tens of millions of people listening to you talk on the air right now. Then we distribute it as an audio podcast. Then we put clips on YouTube and social media and give the full video.

Speaker 20:
[54:57] Have you guys ever thought about doing this as a scripted show?

Speaker 15:
[55:00] Yeah.

Speaker 20:
[55:02] That'd be great. Do you remember Larry Sanders?

Speaker 15:
[55:04] Yeah.

Speaker 20:
[55:05] I think the idea of a scripted version of a podcast that everybody knows, but like the behind the scenes, the like guest coming on, you know, saying like, and have something. I just think that something like that could be, I would watch that and I think that's an example of like, how you bridge the two things, you know what I'm saying? Like the idea of that becomes an idea, because people don't understand really how podcasting actually works. They think you just sit down and do it, but it's bigger than that. You know what I'm saying? It's the prep, it's the behind the scenes, it's the politics, you know what I'm saying? But I think if you did it and made it funny, I'm just pitching the show for myself for you guys.

Speaker 3:
[55:39] Nice.

Speaker 4:
[55:41] We've been doing sketches and all of that type of stuff, but no, you're right. It is a lot that goes on behind the scenes, but also I've been telling people, man, with the podcasters, to me that's the next level, right? Because they're already this generation's stars. So what Theo Vaughn just did this weekend.

Speaker 20:
[55:58] Yeah, what did he do this weekend?

Speaker 4:
[56:00] He produced his own film, he paid for it, called Bus Boys with him and David Spade. I think he put like $3 million of his own money up, came out in theaters Friday and it debuted at like number nine, made $1.7 million. But the fact that he was able to say, I'm a comedian, I got a podcast, I'm going to do a film now because I want to give my audience a different form of content. I think that's where you got to go with it.

Speaker 20:
[56:20] Me and Drew Ski are doing a movie together.

Speaker 4:
[56:23] Oh, really?

Speaker 20:
[56:24] We, I don't know if I can say where it's at yet, because we're fingering it around, but it's based off of one of his concepts.

Speaker 4:
[56:31] At Churchskit?

Speaker 20:
[56:33] It's about a funeral home.

Speaker 4:
[56:34] Funeral home, funeral home.

Speaker 20:
[56:36] But then he has his Talladega Nights where he wants to play the black car driver, the white car driver, and this. Drew, don't be mad.

Speaker 4:
[56:44] Drew Ski is way too big to be in any goddamn body.

Speaker 20:
[56:46] But I think Drew Ski is, and I think he's one of the dudes. I think he's Martin Lawrence, Jim Carrey, Mike Myers. He's one of the few dudes who can get in those characters, you know what I'm saying? But I do think podcasting is the biggest thing in the world right now. And I think the idea of people understanding and bridging out is the next form of it.

Speaker 2:
[57:09] Kenya, you gotta go. So we appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 20:
[57:11] Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2:
[57:12] Definitely check out the logo. It's available on Prime right now. Thank you so much, brother.

Speaker 4:
[57:16] Always a pleasure.

Speaker 2:
[57:17] Kenya Barris, it's The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

Speaker 15:
[57:24] Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down, I'm being myself.

Speaker 4:
[57:28] The source is monster.

Speaker 15:
[57:30] I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Where is she going?

Speaker 13:
[57:39] The latest with LL Cool Bae on The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 15:
[57:47] So, Tiana Taylor, real quick, congratulations to her because it was announced yesterday that she is the new face of Revlon's super lustrous lipstick. This is a part of their Be Unforgettable campaign, which is a really big deal to get a beauty campaign. She now joins a Revlon brand ambassador alum like Halle Berry. And she, as you know, the ambassador should just do the photo shoots and she'll go around and travel and talk about the brand and get to be a face as she has conversations about what it's like to be an unforgettable woman and the woman that came before her. So congratulations to Tiana.

Speaker 4:
[58:19] So man, drop on the clues bonds with Tiana Taylor. And as you heard Kenya Barris just say, Tiana Taylor is making her directorial debut in a film called Get Light. That star is Storm Reid.

Speaker 9:
[58:31] She got a lot going on.

Speaker 15:
[58:32] She just did People's Most Beautiful magazine issue as well, too. She portrayed Janet Jackson as well, which is a big deal. That's a huge issue for them as well. She ate it down. Yeah, she's so good.

Speaker 4:
[58:42] So y'all, Tiana's just getting started, man. Like Tiana has not scratched the surface of how good she is artistically.

Speaker 15:
[58:48] Love to see it. Well, in other news, we've been talking a bit about the Michael Jackson biopic and yesterday- Biopic. Biopic. Biopic. I always get that wrong.

Speaker 18:
[58:57] Wow, Jess got it correct you.

Speaker 4:
[58:58] That's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[58:59] So please shut up.

Speaker 15:
[58:59] She always do it on that word. That's the one word she got.

Speaker 4:
[59:02] That's crazy. All right.

Speaker 10:
[59:03] That's the one word she got. That's the one word she got.

Speaker 15:
[59:06] So yesterday, there were some early predictions that came out that I thought were amazing, but it's, I mean, it's Michael Jackson. So yesterday, it was announced that Michael Jackson is the biopic. Biopic. It's going to be the highest, it's predicted to be the highest grossing opening for all biopics of its time. It's being predicted that this movie will make anywhere from $85 million to $150 million at its opening. Damn. Yeah, and that's just a prediction. But they're predicting that based on how they see people coming out to the theaters. And this is via Deadline and Global Box Office.

Speaker 2:
[59:38] I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 4:
[59:40] Yeah, me neither because I'm seeing a lot of mixed reviews. And I don't want to listen to anybody. I want to see it for myself because I'm wondering if people are, because we love Michael Jackson, right? Nothing's going to stop you from loving Michael Jackson. Nothing's going to stop you from loving his music, right?

Speaker 11:
[59:54] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[59:55] But does that mean the movie is good? Like you might go there and get caught up in your fandom, is the movie good?

Speaker 11:
[60:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[60:01] I've seen a lot of ratings that said they didn't love it, but I want to see it for myself. Like Charlamagne said, I'm going to go see it for myself regardless of what people say, regardless of how many tomatoes it gets and all that other ish. I'm going to go check it out myself. Yeah, what is going to happen? The biggest complaint I see people, I think they thought the negativity was going to be in there.

Speaker 15:
[60:17] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[60:17] And it's not and people are like, where is that?

Speaker 15:
[60:19] So let's-

Speaker 3:
[60:20] Damn. So people was going to the movie to see the negativity?

Speaker 4:
[60:24] I don't know. I'm not going to say negativity, but for me, I would have liked to see them clear up a lot of things that I feel have been false about Michael for years. If the FBI investigates you for 17 years and they don't find anything, you're clean.

Speaker 15:
[60:39] So Rotten Tomatoes, what you guys are referencing is at first, yesterday the Rotten Tomatoes score dropped after the world premiere in Berlin, and it was listed as 27%. I checked this morning, it's now at 35% with only 101 reviews. And I did read some of the reviews and they point to the fact that, yes, they wanted to see what they call the darker side of Michael Jackson, so they feel like the movie wasn't full. But, I mean, we've had the conversations, too, and I've seen the reports about the reshoots and things being taken out of the movie. And Antoine Fuqua, who was the director of the film, he made a pretty clear statement about that over this last week as things have been premiering. He said, when I hear things about us, black people in particular, especially in certain positions, there's always a pause. He was talking to The New Yorker. He said that he's skeptical of some of the accuser's parents, particularly one of the gentlemen named Chandler. And that he just doesn't know all the truth behind allegations, but people do crazy things for money. And there were reports that there were certain scenes that were in the film that were taken out that caused really expensive reshoots, and now we have the final production. So we're going to see it regardless.

Speaker 3:
[61:45] What is the premiere date again?

Speaker 15:
[61:46] The premiere date is April 24th. I actually got tickets. We'll be in Atlanta, but I got tickets in Atlanta.

Speaker 3:
[61:50] You said April 24th?

Speaker 15:
[61:51] Yeah, this weekend. This Friday.

Speaker 2:
[61:52] Yeah, it's this weekend. Yeah, I'm going to take the family. I'm just going to wait. I was going to go, but I think the whole family will love to see it. My kids will definitely love to see it.

Speaker 15:
[62:00] Yeah, and I think another part of it too, when you listen to the family talk about the premiere and talk about Michael Jackson, their biggest thing is wanting to humanize him and not look at this as like Michael Jackson, the king of pop, but like as a human. And I know Jafar Jackson, who is his nephew who plays him, was clearing up some of the misconceptions around Michael Jackson. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 16:
[62:19] I always say the performance of not just doing the moves, but really owning the moves and making it your own where it feels like it's the foundation is coming from you. And that took me a long time and I still feel, you know, I didn't really nail it like I wanted to in certain things. But in my mind, I always drew to how am I feeling afterwards or how am I feeling during the performance. And sometimes I wouldn't even realize I did certain things. And that's when I knew I'm in a flow state. I'm not thinking so much. I'm just allowing the music to dictate what I should do, which I know Michael would always say that. So I wanted to strive for that.

Speaker 4:
[62:54] Yeah, the people who saw the movie said he did a good job. They said he did a very good job.

Speaker 3:
[62:59] That's really good.

Speaker 2:
[62:59] But even if he missed some steps, I mean, it's Michael.

Speaker 3:
[63:02] Yeah, and he's not Michael. So, you know, ultimately he's not Michael.

Speaker 5:
[63:06] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15:
[63:07] So, I mean, regardless, we're gonna go see it. So we'll do that.

Speaker 4:
[63:10] Definitely gonna go see it. But I can understand people's, you know, criticism. Cause I wanted to see, I don't know if they do, do they acknowledge in the movie about how he owned half of the music industry's publishing?

Speaker 2:
[63:21] We don't know.

Speaker 4:
[63:21] I feel like that was one of the reasons he was targeted so much.

Speaker 3:
[63:24] And I wonder where it starts, like where does it start? When he was younger? Is it like, okay. So when it was Jackson 5, that's how, that's how.

Speaker 2:
[63:31] But the dope thing about it, I'm seeing a lot more clips of Michael Jackson. I don't know if y'all seen the clip of him and Janet sitting in the kitchen, writing, screaming. And I think one of them cursed it, be like, you know, mom's gonna be mad if we curse. But they grown adults. Like I love seeing those clips pop back out too.

Speaker 15:
[63:44] Well, one of the things that they did actually talk about what's actually in the movie, that they did actually address this in the movie is Michael Jackson and everybody thinking that he wanted to be white. Let's take a listen to Jafar.

Speaker 18:
[63:53] What do you think the biggest misconception of your uncle is?

Speaker 16:
[63:56] The biggest misconception? I would say that he wanted to be white. That's a big misconception and that this film gives you that understanding of what that is. You know, that Vinaligo played a part in his life and not a lot of people really understand what that is. And he was dealing with that from an early age.

Speaker 4:
[64:15] See, I'm interested in that.

Speaker 16:
[64:16] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[64:16] See, that's interesting.

Speaker 3:
[64:17] Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:
[64:18] Yeah, but you have to go, if you're gonna talk about that, you got to go deeper, right? Because he married a white woman, he had white kids and all that other stuff.

Speaker 3:
[64:24] I don't mean he wanted to be white.

Speaker 2:
[64:25] But that was part of the reason why people thought he wanted to be white because they felt like he always shifted to the white side.

Speaker 4:
[64:29] Maybe they addressed that in the movie. Hopefully. Yeah. Those are good points, though.

Speaker 15:
[64:33] Yeah. I think it's just we go see it and then we'll be able to have a full conversation. I also think it's unfair that it's only 101 reviews here and that number spread so far and, you know, they're suggesting whether you go see it or not. We coming out in our jackets anyway.

Speaker 4:
[64:45] The moral of the story for me is I just, I don't believe Michael touched none of them kids, okay? I would like to see some of that cleared up in the movie.

Speaker 15:
[64:51] He died as a legally innocent man.

Speaker 4:
[64:52] Yes, he did.

Speaker 3:
[64:53] Absolutely.

Speaker 15:
[64:54] That was the latest.

Speaker 4:
[64:55] They want to come out with documentaries after the fact. Okay. I don't believe Michael diddled none of them children.

Speaker 3:
[65:00] Diddled. Anyway, happy birthday Jack Nicholson. He is 89 years old. Did y'all know that?

Speaker 4:
[65:06] No.

Speaker 3:
[65:07] Jack Nicholson, 89. He will be 90 next year.

Speaker 15:
[65:12] That's what comes after 89.

Speaker 3:
[65:13] How is he doing his thing? Well, yeah, but you know, I bet they didn't know that.

Speaker 4:
[65:17] We ain't here talking about Michael. You're just going to interrupt us and talk about some goddamn Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 3:
[65:21] No, that's what we was doing. Y'all know how we say happy birthday to people.

Speaker 4:
[65:23] That was crazy. You just cut Michael off to talk about Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 15:
[65:26] My favorite part was when he...

Speaker 8:
[65:26] Cut off that black bubble.

Speaker 4:
[65:29] I'm glad Jack Nicholson is still alive at 89. I hope to live that long too.

Speaker 15:
[65:31] He'll be 90 next year.

Speaker 10:
[65:32] But you didn't have to cut off Michael.

Speaker 4:
[65:33] Michael is no longer here. He has a biopic coming out Friday. You just interrupted him to scream out, Jack Nicholson, ladies and gentlemen. I didn't scream out.

Speaker 2:
[65:40] I didn't scream out.

Speaker 4:
[65:42] I didn't scream out.

Speaker 15:
[65:43] Happy birthday, Jack Nicholson. You the birthday.

Speaker 4:
[65:45] We just shifted back to the left, too. When did you yell Jack? Shut up. Shut up.

Speaker 3:
[65:49] Recipes, Michael. I know you're looking down.

Speaker 2:
[65:50] We got The Donkey Day coming up.

Speaker 4:
[65:52] Yes. Before after the hour, we need Tucker Carlson to come in front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please.

Speaker 2:
[65:56] All right. Well, since there's no Jack Nicholson music, we're going to play some Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4:
[65:59] Michael, what we got? What are we playing? We got Off The Wall in there?

Speaker 2:
[66:02] Yes, we do.

Speaker 4:
[66:03] Let's go.

Speaker 2:
[66:03] All right. It's The Breakfast Club. He's a donkey digger.

Speaker 13:
[66:08] There's a bunch of donkeys around here.

Speaker 4:
[66:33] Hey, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, April 22nd goes to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, formerly of Fox News. We don't even have to say that anymore. He's completely carved out his own lane. He's just an American or Russian, allegedly political commentator who hosts Tucker on X and the Tucker Carlson show. We all know Tucker Carlson was a huge supporter of Donald Trump during the 2024 campaign and his previous campaigns. You would often see Tucker right by Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. Tucker Carlson described Trump as the funniest person he's ever met in his life. Tucker said he is a wonderful person. He knows him well. According to the New York Times, when Donald Trump was shot in the ear, allegedly at a rally in Pennsylvania, Tucker was the first person to meet him. All I'm trying to tell you is Tucker Carlson was a huge supporter of Donald Trump, but not anymore. In an episode of his podcast released Monday, he seems to have severed ties with the president and says he is tormented by his past support of Donald Trump. Let's go to CNN and listen, please.

Speaker 17:
[67:31] We'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

Speaker 21:
[67:40] Tucker Carlson apologized on his podcast for his part in helping to get President Donald Trump elected during an interview with his brother, Buckley Carlson.

Speaker 17:
[67:47] You and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him, I campaigned for him. We're implicated in this for sure. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now.

Speaker 21:
[67:58] Carlson has been publicly criticizing Trump over the Iran War. He recently called out Trump's Easter truth social post in which the president threatened to destroy Iran's bridges and power plants, and demanded that they, quote, open the f***ing street. Trump later insulted Carlson, citing polling about his popularity. He posted to truth social saying, quote, Tucker is a low IQ person, always easy to beat and highly overrated. The Dominion case revealed that in 2021, Carlson had privately said, I hate him passionately. Still, these comments are a far cry from the 2024 election, where Carlson praised and campaigned for Trump.

Speaker 17:
[68:31] And Donald Trump, whatever you say about him, and I think he's a wonderful person, I know him well. By the way, the funniest person I've ever met in my life, actually, he actually cares.

Speaker 4:
[68:41] He would lie. The man, you already said privately that he hated him with a passion. But listen, here's the thing, the truth is the truth. Okay, if that's his truth, I have no problem with him telling the world that. Okay, we've all been there. All right, I had bias remorse over Joe Biden, especially when I realized he had no intention of being a one-term president. As soon as I saw him saying he wanted to run again, I was like, absolutely not, because this man is not going to beat Donald J. Trump. If he runs again, and beating Trump should have been the ultimate priority. But that's another conversation for another day. I'm just simply saying, I've regretted my support of a candidate before and expressed it. So if Tucker wants to do that, good. Okay, I see people debating if he's sincere or not. Bye, humbug. Okay, listen, it doesn't matter. This is politics. Democrats got what they need. Can we listen to the clip again? Just a clip of him apologizing.

Speaker 17:
[69:26] Supported him. He wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. We're implicated in this for sure. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind or like, oh, this is bad. I'm out. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. We'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But the question does present itself immediately. Like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut. But like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that. But it didn't. There are tons of people of low character who like outperform their character.

Speaker 4:
[70:07] See, it doesn't matter if he's sincere. Democrats got what they need. They should be clipping that up and getting ready to run that in campaign ads for the midterms and in 2028 because I don't think Tucker would ever endorse a Democrat or an Independent. He's going to stick to Republicans. He's going to stick to MAGA. If MAGA is still the dominant force in the Republican Party. Fun fact, Tucker Carlson was one of the people who wanted Donald Trump to choose JD Vance as his running mate. Just because he's sowing on Trump doesn't mean he's jumped off the MAGA train. Democrats, y'all got what you need. Tucker said he was wrong. Tucker said he misled the people. Y'all should be clipping that up and getting it ready for attack ads in all the upcoming elections because anyone Tucker endorses, that's in opposition to your party. You can just put that clip in campaign ads and say, are you really going to listen to someone who got it so wrong? Okay. Are you really going to listen to someone who got it so wrong before? Simple way to discredit those big conservative voices. That will still be big conservative voices, you know, in the midterms and in 2028. Okay. Just a little political warfare. All right. And Tucker gave you a great weapon if you clip it right. Now listen, here's the reason Tucker is getting donkey today. He said, and I quote, I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I say. Can I hear that?

Speaker 17:
[71:22] And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

Speaker 4:
[71:28] Let me hear it one more time.

Speaker 17:
[71:30] And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

Speaker 13:
[71:35] No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4:
[71:37] You said in private messages you hated Trump. Okay. And all furthermore, if you apologize, which you did, you said sorry for supporting him, which you did, and you can't say in the same breath, it was not intentional. Okay. See, Tucker, I'm sure this wasn't your first time voting for Trump. I'm sure you voted for him all three times. You gave him full-throated yum yum gum gum endorsements. Okay. Don't say it wasn't intentional. There was no surprises with Donald Trump. You even acknowledged that. Okay. I understand people who got conned because he said he would fix the economy on day one. I understand people who got conned because he said he would be the anti-war president, but you also knew that he led an attempted coup of this country on January 6th, 2021. You knew he called the terminate parts of the Constitution over his lie that the 2020 election was stolen. You know, you knew that. Okay. Okay. You know that you intentionally endorsed a convicted felon of low character, as you put it. Okay. 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. You would never support a Democrat with that. Okay. And you certainly wouldn't support a Democrat who was found liable in civil court for sexual abuse and defamation. So don't say you didn't intentionally mislead people in regard to Trump. Because if you turn a blind eye to all of that and much, much, much more, okay, I don't have time to get into all the other reasons I could bring it up, bring up. But if you turn the blind eye to all of that in order to support Trump, it was absolutely intentional. Okay. So own it. Own it all. All right. A sincere apology requires taking full responsibility for actions without excuses. Okay. A sincere apology. You own the action. You express regret. You acknowledge the impact of what it is you did. You take responsibility and you make amends. And guess what? You have to be intentional about it. Please give Tucker Carlson the biggest he-ho.

Speaker 2:
[73:28] All right. Thank you for that donkey today.

Speaker 4:
[73:31] Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2:
[73:32] Now, when Kenya Barris was up here, he was talking about his kids and he was talking about his perspective changed on some of the things that his kids were talking about. Let's listen.

Speaker 4:
[73:41] What's something that your kids challenged you on and made you rethink your perspective?

Speaker 20:
[73:45] Cursing. My kids, they curse. They don't curse at me, but they're like, ****, you know what I'm saying? Or like, you'll hear. And I'm just like, a part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they... Really? Not being themselves around me, you know what I'm saying? But I never would curse around my mom. I never would. Cursing around my kids. I want them to be more of themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? Like my sons, I've caught them a couple of times, like drinking, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're going to do this, please at least let me know what's going on. I think that for me was the difference of like how we grew up compared to how, like my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do. And I kind of have to like eat it a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[74:28] All right. So 800-585-1051. What is something that your kids challenge you on that changed your perspective?

Speaker 4:
[74:34] Oh, I got one.

Speaker 2:
[74:35] We'll do it when we come back.

Speaker 4:
[74:36] Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2:
[74:37] 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4:
[74:40] Good morning.

Speaker 1:
[74:46] Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2:
[74:51] Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, Kenya Barris was here earlier and we were talking about some things that changed his mind about what his kids did that changed his perspective. Let's listen.

Speaker 4:
[75:05] What's something that your kids challenged you on that made you rethink your perspective?

Speaker 20:
[75:09] Cursing. My kids, they curse. They don't curse at me, but they're like, s***, you know what I'm saying? Or like, you hear it. And I'm just like, a part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they're not, not being themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? But like, I never would curse around my mom. Never would curse, you know, cursing around my kids. Like, I want them to be more of themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? Like, my sons, I've caught them a couple of times, like, I caught them like, drinking. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're gonna do this, please at least let me know what's going on. I think that for me was the difference of like, how we grew up compared to how, like, my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do. And I kind of have to like, eat it a little.

Speaker 2:
[75:51] So the question is, 800-585-1051, what is something that your kids challenge you on that changed your perspective? Now, do you have anything, Jess?

Speaker 3:
[75:59] Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call it a challenge. But, you know, I grew up in a because-I-said-so era, right? So you get like a lot of emotional pushback. I allow my son to do like emotional pushback. But you said that yesterday or asked me why? Like, not like bedtime becomes a debate. You know what I'm saying? Like, back in the day, my mother, you go to bed, whatever, you know what I'm saying? It's because I said so. I wasn't able to challenge her, you know, challenge her commands, like whatever she told me, you know. But I let my son ask me why. And I explained myself a lot. Our parents wasn't explaining themselves to us. It's because I said so. I told you to do something. You're going to do it. Don't ask me why, whatever. But I explained myself to my son. I think our parents looked at it as disrespect when there's more curiosity. Like, kids just being curious, that's pretty much it. I do not allow Ash to curse around me. And he doesn't try it. Now, I'll hear him slip up on the game when he's with his friends, but you know, when he's on the game with his friends, but he's not being disrespectful so I can hear him.

Speaker 2:
[77:02] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[77:02] And when I do slip up and hear him, I don't say, I don't go and interrupt the game. He's a teenager, he's 14, he's going to curse. You know what I'm saying? But he don't curse at me or with me in a conversation.

Speaker 2:
[77:15] Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I don't say I told you so. Of course, my parents did. But you know, I explained the reason why I say no or the reason why I answer. As far as the cursing, no, my kids are not allowed to curse. If they're telling a story or they heard something, they will ask, can I have permission to curse? If they're explaining something, I can be like, yeah, I gotta explain it. And the only other thing is gaming. When Logan, who's 22 years old, when he was gaming, I didn't take it as seriously as, I just looked at it as a hobby, as a fun thing to do. And at the time, he was making money gaming, but I didn't take it per serious because I didn't see the vision of gaming back then. Now I see the vision. If Jackson wanted to game more, I would be more into it. I would take him into the, if there's a gaming competition or...

Speaker 3:
[77:59] It could be a career for him.

Speaker 2:
[78:00] I remember I had to DJ something at Barclays and it was like 20,000 people watching people game. And I didn't get it at first, but now I get it. So I would be open to things that are outside the box. Pause, even streaming. I would be out, things to that. What about you, Sharla?

Speaker 4:
[78:13] I said earlier this morning that I wanted to be still today and just hear the voice of God. So I need God to come into the room for this conversation. My kids challenge my wife and I every damn day, but they be acting a fool. So a perspective of mine that's changing? Corporal punishment. My thoughts on corporal punishment change every time my babies try me. I'm telling you, I don't know what-

Speaker 3:
[78:37] What is corporal punishment?

Speaker 4:
[78:38] Beating your kids ass. I don't know what gets into these kids sometimes, but they are the sweetest little angels one minute, and then a switch at some point flips, and you completely realize why your parents made you go pick a switch, okay? I completely understand wanting to put belt to ass to your babies, okay? I wouldn't do it, but damn it, if they don't got me thinking about it when they act a fool, okay?

Speaker 2:
[79:00] What is wrong with you? And maybe they get it from their daddy, who came in there today- Like, I came in meditating as I was driving in, and the God was talking to me. And then the first thing you probably did was talk about Lawrence Ball Spa.

Speaker 3:
[79:12] The God tell you to talk about Lawrence Ball Spa?

Speaker 4:
[79:13] That's why I knew you were a fake parent. Because a real parent understands the ebbs and flows of raising children. There's no instruction manual that comes with this. So sometimes you are looking at your babies, and you love your babies, and you love them, and you want to talk to them, and you're teaching them emotional intelligence. And then sometimes you want to beat their ass if they're not listening. Like, period. Bottom line, point blank, period. Like, that's just the kid. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[79:38] I'm past the beating the kids. Madison and Logan, yes.

Speaker 10:
[79:40] But the younger ones, the grown ones. Back then, yes, yes, I would pop them.

Speaker 2:
[79:46] Absolutely positively.

Speaker 4:
[79:47] I would pop Madison.

Speaker 2:
[79:49] Logan and Madison, yes, they got it. The new ones, no.

Speaker 4:
[79:52] My oldest daughter, I spanked once, which I felt so stupid after I did it because she had cursed. And I'm like, why are you spanking a kid for cursing? They don't know no better. They probably repeating words they heard you say. You know what I'm saying? So that was just dumb. So I never did that. And I don't put hands on my kid. Boy, I tell you, sometimes you got to grab them and give them a little shake.

Speaker 3:
[80:13] You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[80:14] Don't say that. Grab their arm a little bit and just squeeze it a little bit. Girl, you better listen to me. What the hell is your problem?

Speaker 3:
[80:19] That's right.

Speaker 4:
[80:19] You know what I mean? You be sitting there with your wife like, get her.

Speaker 3:
[80:24] Right.

Speaker 4:
[80:24] You know what I mean? Like, boy, y'all, you don't know the era we come from trying us right now, okay? You don't understand the era we come from, what we had to go through. You wouldn't have survived the 90s.

Speaker 2:
[80:35] I'm very surprised with my kids. My kids don't talk back. My kids, they are, I don't want to say the perfect kids, but my kids are not like Madison and Logan.

Speaker 4:
[80:42] That's what I thought too.

Speaker 2:
[80:43] The older kids, the younger kids, they are angels. They are good. They don't talk back. They don't give their dad any stress. Which ones?

Speaker 4:
[80:50] The youngest ones.

Speaker 2:
[80:51] I got 12, 11, 9, and 4.

Speaker 4:
[80:54] Yeah, the way till they get about 7, you know what I mean? But like I said, it's ebbs and flows.

Speaker 2:
[80:58] 12, 11, 9, and 4.

Speaker 4:
[80:59] Because they might be good for a certain amount of time, and then they go through this little phase, and you sitting back like, God damn, what the hell?

Speaker 3:
[81:06] Just to see how far they can go.

Speaker 4:
[81:08] Absolutely, and it makes you think about going to get that switch.

Speaker 2:
[81:12] And I ain't gonna lie, after the 4-year-old went to the hospital for as long as she did, I don't care what she did.

Speaker 3:
[81:16] You can't do nothing to her. It don't matter what she did.

Speaker 2:
[81:18] She could give me the middle finger.

Speaker 1:
[81:19] I'd be like, I deserved it.

Speaker 2:
[81:21] Like, the 4-year-old can't do nothing.

Speaker 4:
[81:23] And it breaks you. There's nothing that breaks your heart more than when your babies were sweet angels one minute, and then they talking back to you. I pulled up Beyonce's Scrape on the laptop and said, come here and look at this right now. I put the little girl with the little girl. I was a tween that they took the Beyonce's Scrape. I said, look at this. Look at this right now. Okay. Oh my God. It ain't even that bad, but I'm not even, I just don't know what else to do. I don't know what else to do.

Speaker 2:
[81:50] I used to get beaten.

Speaker 4:
[81:52] You understand what I'm saying? I used to get beaten for the smallest things.

Speaker 2:
[81:56] My kids are different.

Speaker 4:
[81:57] All that talking is just crazy sometimes. All that talking, you're not listening.

Speaker 2:
[82:01] They'll probably be here tomorrow. My kids are different. Because tomorrow is Take Your Kids to Work Day. Is it? Yes. Marlee don't need to be here. Marlee ain't going to know what's going on up here. I know, I know.

Speaker 10:
[82:10] Hello, who's this?

Speaker 12:
[82:11] Hi, my name is Char.

Speaker 2:
[82:13] Hey, Char, talk to us.

Speaker 12:
[82:14] Good morning. Hey, good morning, good morning, you guys. I'm going to say this. One thing my daughter challenges me on, she's 13, and she feels she should be able to text voice and date. So that's a big challenge for me because my parents, I grew up old school, and we don't believe in that. Her dad is the same way we're old school. But I'd rather she tell me about it, and I can talk her through it and help her, and teach her how to navigate the boys versus her learning this on her own.

Speaker 4:
[82:43] Yeah, I'm old school too. I'm flushing the phone down the toilet. I'm throwing the phone out there.

Speaker 13:
[82:46] I'm throwing it in the front yard.

Speaker 4:
[82:48] Big toss. All right, okay? Go get her a flip phone. She ain't get no texting, no nothing, okay?

Speaker 12:
[82:53] Take social media away. She's supposed to need it all. But yeah, that's the biggest challenge I get with her. So I just navigate her through it because the society we live in now is completely different.

Speaker 4:
[83:05] I remember my father giving my oldest sister a beating just for staying out late. Because when you think that, when it was staying out late back then, it was 11, 30, 12 o'clock. So just a father thinking about what his daughter may be doing staying out late. Now I got to navigate a 13-year-old texting boys? Yeah. Lord have mercy.

Speaker 3:
[83:25] It's a different time.

Speaker 4:
[83:26] Y'all asking a lot.

Speaker 2:
[83:27] It's a lot different and that's why I love dance so much. They're in dance from 4 to 9 every day. When they come home in my room, they fall asleep in my room. I'm all through their phones.

Speaker 4:
[83:38] How old is she?

Speaker 2:
[83:39] Which one?

Speaker 4:
[83:39] The one that dances.

Speaker 2:
[83:40] Which one?

Speaker 4:
[83:40] The one that dances.

Speaker 10:
[83:41] 12.

Speaker 4:
[83:42] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[83:42] She's still 12.

Speaker 4:
[83:44] She still got another year or two.

Speaker 2:
[83:45] Madison, they kissed her first boy in college.

Speaker 10:
[83:47] I've been older than my kid.

Speaker 4:
[83:48] Really?

Speaker 2:
[83:49] Yes. Madison was slow.

Speaker 4:
[83:51] Turtle slow. That you know about?

Speaker 10:
[83:53] I'm slow.

Speaker 4:
[83:54] You think Logan's slow too, huh? I ain't say Logan.

Speaker 10:
[83:57] I ain't say Logan.

Speaker 3:
[83:58] You ain't even talk about Logan.

Speaker 8:
[83:59] I ain't say Logan.

Speaker 4:
[84:01] I bet your Logan mama think he's slow.

Speaker 10:
[84:03] I know.

Speaker 8:
[84:05] We don't.

Speaker 4:
[84:07] Logan ain't doing push-ups in the gym for nothing.

Speaker 2:
[84:10] If you're just joining us, Kenya Barris was on earlier. And we were talking about some things that his kids challenged him on that changed his perspective. Let's listen.

Speaker 4:
[84:18] What's something that your kids challenged you on that made you rethink your perspective?

Speaker 20:
[84:22] Cursing. My kids, they curse. They don't curse at me. But they're like, you know what I'm saying? Or like, you hear. And I'm just like, a part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they really they're not not being themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? But I never would curse around my mom. I would like, you know, cursing around my kids. Like I want them to be more of themselves around me. I'm saying like my sons, I've caught them a couple of times. I caught them like drinking. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're going to do this, please at least let me know what's going on. I think that for me was the difference of like how we grew up compared to how like my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do. And I kind of have to like eat it a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[85:05] So we're asking 800-585-1051, what is something that your kids challenge you on that change your perspective? Hello, who's this?

Speaker 14:
[85:13] This is Deacon from Indianapolis.

Speaker 2:
[85:15] What's up, brother?

Speaker 4:
[85:15] This is Deacon.

Speaker 2:
[85:17] We're asking what is something that your kids challenge you on that change your perspective, brother?

Speaker 14:
[85:20] Man, listen, let me tell you something, man. I just lost a son February 19th.

Speaker 4:
[85:25] Damn, sorry to hear that, King. Damn, man, prayers up to you and your family for sure. Healing energy too, my brother.

Speaker 14:
[85:31] Appreciate that, Charlamagne. But yeah, as a father, I'm 40, remind you. So I grew up in a different area from these kids these days. So it's like I'm pushing them to be a man. Like, you want to be grown? Get your ass out there and be grown. Show me you can do it. Because when I try to be grown, my mama pushed me out there. I showed her I could be grown where she was like, okay, were you a man now? But now, they're gone. I wish I would have let the smoke the weed and drink and had a girl's over or whatever, because I feel like in a sense he'd still be here. So my perspective on it now is that with my other two boys and my two daughters, I got to tap more into what they like, what they're doing, what they're into, so I could try to be a parent and a friend. Add a little bit of friend in there where they be comfortable with telling me this stuff, where I be able to correct it or be able to give them some form of guidance before it's too late. So some people might look at it as is wrong. Now, don't disrespect me and smoke a pound in my face. Don't disrespect your mom and your little siblings, your younger siblings and don't be cussing all in front of me and your mom and all of that. Do what you do if you want to go out there. But I really wish that I would have been a little more lenient. Let them smoke the weed. Let them drink. Let them bring the girls out of time. I feel like my son will still be here. So in a sense, I do agree with dude. I hate my kids change my perspective once I lost my son.

Speaker 4:
[86:59] I understand that. Sorry, brother. I think you should give yourself a little bit more grace. I struggle with the friend thing. I feel like you should be a parent and a confidant, meaning that they should be comfortable telling you things that they don't tell anybody else. I think the friend thing comes is they get older. Because when them kids is young, man, they need guidance.

Speaker 14:
[87:18] My kids is grown, Charlamagne. I got two 19 year old boys and my son had just died was 18.

Speaker 4:
[87:25] Got you, got you, got you. That makes sense.

Speaker 2:
[87:27] But I think being a friend to your kid, like Charlamagne said, to a certain extent, right? Because you want your kids to be comfortable enough to tell you everything, right? You want them to be a real safe place regardless. And again, I'm sorry you lost your son, brother. But it's also like you said, if your kid wants to smoke weed or he wants to drink, you at least want them to be able to say, all right, I'm a dad, I'm going to do it anyway. But I'd rather do it in a safe environment where you can control it, where you can explain to him what it is, explain to him what he's drinking, what he's smoking, what he's getting into himself. Then hopefully, you could be that change in factor for him.

Speaker 3:
[87:58] And I think that's what he means.

Speaker 2:
[87:59] Absolutely.

Speaker 14:
[88:00] I got to be honest with myself and say that I was more trying to rule with their iron fence and save them from this s***. You know what I mean? So that's what got me to where now, I ain't going to say I'm being soft with the rest of the kids, but I got a different kind of understanding. Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[88:17] You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 14:
[88:20] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[88:20] I'm sorry, brother.

Speaker 14:
[88:21] But hey, man, shout out to y'all. I listen to y'all every morning. I never tried to call. No radio station. The first time I tried to because of that, that the topic just kind of touched me about my son. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? So I wanted to reach out. Hey, Charlamagne, I ain't used to like your ass, man, but you put on me, boy. I respect you, boy. Hey, I like what y'all doing up here, man. Thank you, King. Keep it going for the black folk, man.

Speaker 4:
[88:46] I appreciate you, brother.

Speaker 2:
[88:47] All right. Well, what's the moral of the story?

Speaker 3:
[88:49] He was from West Coast, wasn't he?

Speaker 2:
[88:50] Sound like he was.

Speaker 3:
[88:51] Yeah, absolutely. He sound like Ryan Coogler.

Speaker 4:
[88:53] You know, it's interesting about when people say they want their kids to smoke weed and drink and stuff like that. If my kid came to me and said that, my question would be why? Why do you want to do this? Because if the answer is because you see everybody else doing it, that's not a good enough reason. Because the only reason I did it back in the day is because everybody around me was doing it. It was in the rap songs and stuff like that. That's the only reason. I didn't have a real desire. Because kids are young and they're impressionable. I would want to know why. If you can give me a good reason.

Speaker 2:
[89:25] But for most kids, they see it so much and they see adults doing it so much. They see it in songs. They see it on TV.

Speaker 3:
[89:32] But that's the influence.

Speaker 2:
[89:33] The influence is like why do so many people want to do it? I'm not a heavy drinker in the house. My kids never say anything to drink. I would never smoke in front of my kids. My kids don't know. They don't ask. But you can understand if somebody's seeing it so much, be like, well, why do people want to do it so much? Let me try and see what the taste is.

Speaker 3:
[89:50] Let me try and see what the smut thing is.

Speaker 4:
[89:53] That's interesting because if the kids come to you and say, why are you and mommy always drinking wine? You know, the older kids be like, why y'all be on them edibles? My answer is going to be, so we don't beat your ass, okay? So we don't take this belt and put it to your ass and make you go get a switch and put it to your ass.

Speaker 2:
[90:09] That's why. She could be like, I need to take an edible so dad, I don't beat your ass because you be on my ass.

Speaker 14:
[90:14] I don't want to beat your ass, dad.

Speaker 2:
[90:16] So I'm going to get one of these.

Speaker 4:
[90:17] You might be right. Don't act like these kids don't drive you to drink now. Oh no, absolutely. Don't act like these kids don't drive you to drink. You need a hug, bro. You all right?

Speaker 3:
[90:25] I think that's why happy hours exist.

Speaker 4:
[90:28] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[90:28] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[90:29] I bet you that's a struggle for so many people that grew up in the 1900s like us who don't want to raise their kids the way we were raised. I know we struggle with corporal punishment. We need to make that a topic maybe tomorrow. Let's talk about the parents that grew up in the 1900s like we did, who used to get beatin, who don't beat their kids now. But damn it understand why they used to get beatin back in the day now because they got charred.

Speaker 2:
[90:53] Alright, well, salute to all the parents out there doing the best that they possibly can.

Speaker 4:
[90:59] That's all we can do, the best we can.

Speaker 2:
[91:01] Alright, let's get to the latest with Laura.

Speaker 15:
[91:26] Alright y'all, so the Kanye West Anti-Semitic Apology Tour continues. So, before he was stopped, he was caught leaving a Jewish Human Rights Center in Beverly Hills. He was caught out by TMZ. It's the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Now, this center is a Jewish Human Rights Organization and they do everything from Holocaust research and remembrance to combating anti-Semitism, tolerance education, a bunch of different things. He was there for about an hour and a half. And this, you know, comes after all of like the concerts being canceled and being pushed and those different conversations. So, he's making the rounds again, trying to figure it out. We move on. So, in other news over there in LA. So, right now, it's a very weird time for the Kardashians. It may be something that they're probably used to. So, right now, Kylie Jenner is being accused by a former housekeeper of being, of bullying and discrimination. At the same time, Khloé Kardashian is being called Black Khloé.

Speaker 4:
[92:25] Why are they calling her Black Khloé? Why are they calling her BK?

Speaker 2:
[92:30] He don't care about the discrimination here. You want to know why they call her Black?

Speaker 15:
[92:33] I gave you guys a photo. I want you to flip your photo over. I gave everyone in the room photos. Yours is right here. Flip the photo over. All right. Now, at first glance, I thought that this photo, there is a billboard in California for Khloé Kardashian's cloud brand, which is a healthy snack brand. I thought that this was Beyoncé a little bit at first.

Speaker 10:
[92:51] I was going to say the same thing. It did look like Beyoncé at first.

Speaker 4:
[92:54] I don't disrespect Beyoncé like this.

Speaker 8:
[92:55] For a quick, it did. No, it did not.

Speaker 4:
[92:57] Not to me, not one time. Beyoncé's nose don't look like that.

Speaker 2:
[93:00] For a quick moment, yes, it did.

Speaker 4:
[93:01] No, it did not. Not to me.

Speaker 15:
[93:02] Now, this-

Speaker 2:
[93:03] I ain't got my contact in either, but it did for a little bit.

Speaker 15:
[93:05] Now, this billboard is going viral. Again, this is a billboard that is actively live in LA right now because Khloé looks noticeably darker. There is a shadow over her face, but she doesn't noticeably darker, which has been a conversation around the Kardashians for some time. When it went viral on TikTok, Khloé actually commented on the video. She's like with the laughing emojis, like, what is going on here? But yeah, the people are like, who the heck is this woman?

Speaker 4:
[93:27] I wouldn't say black Khloé. I might say Bodega Khloé.

Speaker 3:
[93:32] She is Latino.

Speaker 2:
[93:34] She looks darker than she usually is.

Speaker 14:
[93:35] Yeah, a lot darker.

Speaker 3:
[93:37] But I mean, y'all got to think about it. Y'all white, man, y'all don't want to be pale. Y'all want to tan. Like who the hell want to be white?

Speaker 4:
[93:44] I'm glad you're talking to Envy when you say that.

Speaker 3:
[93:46] I'm not white, ma'am.

Speaker 1:
[93:46] Because you do look like a sugar cookie in the wintertime.

Speaker 3:
[93:49] Y'all lighten up and y'all get passed.

Speaker 15:
[93:53] Because he been, you know, white people.

Speaker 3:
[93:55] I'm not white. I'm black.

Speaker 15:
[93:58] You're Dominican.

Speaker 3:
[93:58] I'm not Dominican. Because you're the lightest in the room. But in the wintertime, you get real, you know, napkin.

Speaker 10:
[94:05] You look like a sugar cookie.

Speaker 15:
[94:05] Sugar cookie.

Speaker 3:
[94:06] Yes, sugar cookie.

Speaker 10:
[94:07] Go back to the discrimination part.

Speaker 15:
[94:11] On the other hand, Khloe Kardashian, I mean Khloe, Kylie Jenner. She's named as a defendant in this, but it's actually her house staff. So there's a woman named Angelica that had been working for Kylie since 2024, but she's resigned. And she says that she was treated with hostility and exclusion. She says she was belittled and humiliated in front of her coworkers because of her race, her origin, and her religious beliefs. She's Salvadorian and Catholic. She says that they were yelling things at her like Catholics are horrible people. This is Kylie's house staff and that she was mocked or intimidated about her immigration status and threatened with deportation. She says she had hangers thrown at her when she complained about the treatment. Now, Kylie's camp for people close are telling TMZ that people that are familiar with her house staff are saying that this person was just a junior housekeeper and that she had attendance issues along with other workplace concerns. But again, Kylie is not, she's not saying that Kylie said all these things. She's saying it's her house staff, but she's named as a defendant because she's basically saying that Kylie failed to regulate this.

Speaker 4:
[95:09] All Kylie got to do is pointed this picture of Chloe and said, I would never, my sister is Spanish. I would never discriminate against another. Salvador is not Spanish. They speak Spanish, all right? They are Spanish. Right here. This is my old sister. My old sister. She's Spanish. Okay.

Speaker 15:
[95:30] Well, hopefully that helps her.

Speaker 3:
[95:32] Mi hermana.

Speaker 2:
[95:33] All right. That is the latest. Now, who is that brought to you by?

Speaker 15:
[95:36] It's brought to you by Top Dog Law.

Speaker 4:
[95:37] Oh, okay.

Speaker 15:
[95:38] Any accident, big or small, call Top Dog Law.

Speaker 4:
[95:40] And I want to salute my guys at Drink Champs. You know, the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening this Saturday at Pullman Yards in Atlanta, hosted by Envy and Lauren LaRosa. We told y'all Crystal Renee Haislett has the Keep It Positive Sweetie Podcast, and it's going to be a mashup with Carisha Young Miami, right? Carisha Please Podcast. Drink Champs, their special guests are going to be none other than ATL icon CeeLo Green. Okay, drop one of those bombs to CeeLo Green. What's up, CeeLo? CeeLo, you might as well bring the rest of the mob with you. Might as well bring the rest of the goody mob with you. Okay, since we in Atlanta, I would love to see all the brothers there. And as well as Kaye Michelle, she'll be on Drink Champs.

Speaker 19:
[96:19] Dope, dope, dope.

Speaker 10:
[96:20] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[96:21] Getting exclusive, shorty.

Speaker 15:
[96:22] I am so excited. She has been killing Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Speaker 3:
[96:26] I haven't seen her yet.

Speaker 15:
[96:27] She's doing well. Oh my God. She's not even doing the craziest thing. She's just maintaining herself. It's just good to see her on there. She's been doing so great in her interviews. I cannot wait.

Speaker 4:
[96:37] She'll be at the Black Effect Podcast Festival this Saturday with Drink Champs.

Speaker 3:
[96:41] And she's not the drama. No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 15:
[96:45] It's so good to see her. She's not the villain. Well, not yet. We don't know if it changes.

Speaker 2:
[96:50] Yeah, salute to Kaye Michelle.

Speaker 4:
[96:51] All right, so go get your tickets. I think there's still some tickets left, some general admission tickets left. blackeffect.com/podcastfestival. We'll see you this Saturday in ATL.

Speaker 2:
[97:01] All right, well, let's get to the people's choice mixes, The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. We are The Breakfast Club. We got to salute to Kenya Barris for joining us this morning. New documentary, Jerry West, The Logo, is streaming on Prime Video now. So salute to Kenya Barris.

Speaker 4:
[97:18] And also just great to talk to Kenya, man. Kenya is one of the people who's had so much success in television and film that his insights on TV, film, and just the whole entertainment game are always good.

Speaker 2:
[97:30] Now, this weekend, if you're out and about Friday, of course, I'm going to be in Pittsburgh for their draft party. Thursday, I'm going to be in New York for the Giants draft party. But Saturday, we're heading to Atlanta for the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

Speaker 4:
[97:43] Fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yards. Go get your tickets, blackeffect.com/podcastfestival. Grits and Eggs podcast is going to be on there. That's my man Deontay Collin, Big Ice Cup Cat. Carlos King will be there with the Reality with the King Podcast. Drink Champs is going to be there. We just announced this morning that their special guests will be CeeLo Green and Kaye Michelle. Crystal Renee Hayslatt will be there with her Keep It Positive, Sweetie Podcast. We're doing a mashup with her in Young Miami with the Carisha Please Podcast. Mona with the Don't Call Me White Girl Podcast and Jeff Teague with the Club 520 Podcast. And we got panels like Tika Something is going to be on the panel. My man Ian Dunlap is going to be on the panel. It's all type of stuff going on. Clarissa Shields is going to be there. Who else? Listen, it's a lot going on.

Speaker 3:
[98:32] She performing or something?

Speaker 4:
[98:34] I don't know what Clarissa. Clarissa pulling up. Clarissa said she want to pull up. My man Michael Bivens said he pulling up. It's a lot of different things going on. My man Roger Karrouf got the NASCAR simulator there for anybody that wants to learn how to do race car driving. So listen, you know the Black Effect Podcast Festival is a family affair. We got the food trucks, the vendors, everything. So we'll see you Saturday in Atlanta. blackeffect.com/podcastfestival to go get your tickets.

Speaker 2:
[98:58] All right. Now, Jess, where you at this weekend?

Speaker 3:
[99:00] I'm in Newark, New Jersey at Rutgers University for Black Writers Weekend. At 4 p.m. it starts. The event is sold out. But Brooklyn, I'm coming to y'all. Thursday, April 30th at 7 p.m. for my book launch, Till Death Do We Parent. So make sure you get your tickets at Powerhouse Arena. We're going to be at the Powerhouse Bookstore, y'all. So see y'all next Thursday.

Speaker 4:
[99:21] Next Tuesday, Jess Book will be out.

Speaker 3:
[99:23] Period.

Speaker 4:
[99:24] Till Death Do We Parent. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[99:25] I can't wait for you and Rome. I know Rome is coming up next week to do that interview. Is he?

Speaker 3:
[99:29] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[99:30] I was just joking. But he really is coming?

Speaker 3:
[99:31] No, yeah. He's definitely trying to come up with new ideas.

Speaker 4:
[99:33] Rome got a whole promo tour planned.

Speaker 2:
[99:34] Really?

Speaker 4:
[99:35] Oh, yeah. That Jess don't know about. Rome is waiting for the book to drop. Rome waiting for the book to drop. And for people to read it, for him to go on his tour.

Speaker 2:
[99:42] So Rome, your baby daddy will be here and you won't. So he's going to be filling in for you?

Speaker 3:
[99:46] No, he's not going to. He's going to do the interview with me that I do here to promote the book.

Speaker 2:
[99:51] I thought he was filling in for you. No.

Speaker 4:
[99:53] If y'all would come up here and hold the book up and say, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap will be so funny.

Speaker 3:
[100:00] You got a positive note?

Speaker 4:
[100:02] I do. The positive note is simply this, man. Accepting complete responsibility for your life means that you refuse to make excuses or blame others for anything in your life that you're not happy about, okay? If you think someone or something other than yourself is responsible for your happiness and success, I guess you're not that happy and successful. Have a great day.

Speaker 1:
[100:22] Breakfast Club, bitches!

Speaker 6:
[100:23] You gonna finish or y'all done?

Speaker 1:
[100:28] Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.