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Speaker 1:
[00:15] This is a Keep Hammering Collective. This is Shit Talkers. Do do do do.
Speaker 2:
[00:22] Chiggy check yourself before you. Riggy wreck yourself. Is this 26?
Speaker 1:
[00:28] 26.
Speaker 2:
[00:29] Is it?
Speaker 1:
[00:30] Yeah, because I think I was quarter of a century.
Speaker 2:
[00:33] Yeah, and last time I said, catch you on 26, next time when you said, that's going to you up, and you're going to say 27.
Speaker 1:
[00:40] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[00:41] So it didn't happen.
Speaker 1:
[00:42] No, you're freaking dialed in, baby. Yeah. This is a long anticipated STW 26.
Speaker 2:
[00:51] This is the highly sought after. This is collectible.
Speaker 1:
[00:54] It's been a while.
Speaker 2:
[00:55] You know, it's like when people post footage and they say, like, this is rare footage and it's like, it's on the internet.
Speaker 1:
[01:02] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[01:02] It's not rare.
Speaker 1:
[01:03] This is rare. This has never been seen before.
Speaker 2:
[01:08] I have to drink my estrogen water.
Speaker 1:
[01:10] Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:
[01:11] To help my puffy nipples.
Speaker 1:
[01:15] I think puffy nipples on guys are sick.
Speaker 2:
[01:19] Bitch tits? There's a surgery for that.
Speaker 1:
[01:27] Yeah, that used to be why the biggest reason guys wouldn't use steroids back in the day.
Speaker 2:
[01:32] Puffy nipples.
Speaker 1:
[01:33] Everybody's worried about getting bitch tits, which I don't blame them. Well, it's hard to look cool with those.
Speaker 2:
[01:41] When the shirt rests on nothing but your puffy nipples.
Speaker 1:
[01:43] If you wear a white t-shirt, dude, the same reason why a wet t-shirt on a girl is unless she's... Okay.
Speaker 2:
[01:52] I'm not sure puffy nipples look good on anybody.
Speaker 1:
[01:55] On a girl?
Speaker 2:
[01:57] Depends what...
Speaker 1:
[01:58] She's ovulating. That's fertile, baby.
Speaker 2:
[02:05] This is fertile country here. That's fertile soil.
Speaker 1:
[02:08] Yeah. We need to... Yeah. Frickin... What do we need to do? We need to go balls deep on that crop row. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[02:19] Plan our crop. Reap our...
Speaker 1:
[02:24] At least we're starting Shittalkers Weekly on a good note. This is like what people expect.
Speaker 2:
[02:29] A positive.
Speaker 1:
[02:30] Especially after Rick's podcast.
Speaker 2:
[02:33] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[02:34] This is going to be the bookend. Like on one end, this is like, oh, that was a great podcast. That is very wholesome and yeah, and Christian-focused and smart and makes a lot of in-in-ness.
Speaker 2:
[02:49] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[02:50] Which this is basically a monkey throwing shit at the wall, at the zoo.
Speaker 2:
[02:55] And seeing if it'll stick.
Speaker 1:
[03:00] So we are, if you see a monkey throwing shit at little kids at the zoo, that's what this is.
Speaker 2:
[03:05] That's us. Well, we've got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1:
[03:10] God, I know.
Speaker 2:
[03:11] Yeah. But we do have some friends of the show to shout out. So we start there. I've been seeing, you've been posting that artist on your story. Who's doing that like huge life-size elk.
Speaker 1:
[03:22] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:23] The, what do you call that? A metal?
Speaker 1:
[03:26] Sculpture? Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[03:28] But anyways, we have a couple of friends of the show. He left a comment one time, but Timothy McComber and Clint Lesh. But Clint Lesh does the same thing, like huge life-size bronze sculptures. And I don't know, those things are.
Speaker 1:
[03:45] Yeah. I mean, I don't know where it's going.
Speaker 2:
[03:48] That's what I'm saying. Where do you put that shit? I mean, he did an elk that was 14 feet tall.
Speaker 1:
[03:52] I know.
Speaker 2:
[03:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[03:53] I mean, it looks sick, but the, is he just going to go in front of the house? Yes. Just out in the street?
Speaker 2:
[03:59] Yeah. I think so.
Speaker 1:
[04:02] I mean, you put like a streetlight on it? I mean, I can't fit a regular elk in here, let alone a 14 footer.
Speaker 2:
[04:12] It's Rudolph. You put a little red nose on it.
Speaker 1:
[04:16] Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:
[04:17] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[06:33] I mean, I could probably do it if I wanted to, but I don't.
Speaker 1:
[06:37] So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I had I did the video in here, then in that shed, then in the storage units. Like I just I already don't make me more shit.
Speaker 2:
[06:49] We can fit it. Remember when we had the alien in here?
Speaker 1:
[06:52] Yeah, that was, that's actually kind of cool.
Speaker 2:
[06:53] Yeah, it was. But it was also took up a lot of room.
Speaker 1:
[06:56] The problem is I have two life-size black bear that are eight foot kind of on their way. And where are those going?
Speaker 2:
[07:05] Dude.
Speaker 1:
[07:06] And oh, and a pedestal of that giant Roosevelt I killed. That 355. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:
[07:14] That's still not done? No.
Speaker 1:
[07:16] So it's going somewhere.
Speaker 2:
[07:17] Somewhere. We could hang it from the ceiling upside down.
Speaker 1:
[07:22] I got a lot of problems.
Speaker 2:
[07:23] Yeah. Another friend of the show, Christian Johnson, he's the guy who did the seven ultras on seven continents in seven days.
Speaker 1:
[07:32] In one week, I'm going to be racing the Silver Moon 100 Miler in Reedley, California.
Speaker 2:
[07:37] My plan is to win this race. But he ran 100 Miler recently at 1631. Pretty good. Yeah. First, I guess the course record. I mean, if I'm him though, like flat as f**k. Yeah. And you pick the most random 100 Miler. Yeah. So you go set the course record.
Speaker 1:
[07:55] That's all good. Hey, course record is still a course record.
Speaker 2:
[07:58] No. Yeah, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:
[07:59] I'd take it.
Speaker 2:
[08:00] I chatted with him. I'm just giving you s**t, Christian.
Speaker 1:
[08:02] No. But 16 hours, it just tells me it's probably a pretty flat one because that's a good time.
Speaker 2:
[08:07] Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1:
[08:09] Unless he's winning Western States, he's not running that in the mountains.
Speaker 2:
[08:13] F**k no. Last friend of the show, shout out is to Amanda Kimiko. Do you know her?
Speaker 1:
[08:20] Amanda.
Speaker 2:
[08:21] Kimiko Kimiko.
Speaker 1:
[08:23] Is she an ultrarunner?
Speaker 2:
[08:24] Yeah, but she's pregnant.
Speaker 1:
[08:25] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[08:25] Super pregnant right now. She's faster than me.
Speaker 1:
[08:29] Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2:
[08:30] But what I wanted to know is running while you're that pregnant. Is that like shaking up a Coke can before you give it to somebody?
Speaker 1:
[08:38] It's just going to maybe. But oh, I thought you were going to go with it's like it's not fair because it's extra power boost is two against one.
Speaker 2:
[08:48] It's kind of doping.
Speaker 1:
[08:49] Yeah, she's doping with that baby. Yeah, that's not you don't have a baby in there. You can drop power from.
Speaker 2:
[08:55] No, that's not fair. That's why she's faster. We'll jump into our recent events. I think people want to hear about Pauly Shore.
Speaker 1:
[09:05] They do.
Speaker 2:
[09:06] Well, I had a bunch of messages like, how was Pauly Shore? I saw you guys had Pauly Shore on.
Speaker 1:
[09:11] Pauly Shore is the most relaxed, calm, un-exciting person you'll ever be.
Speaker 2:
[09:21] He'd be really hard to pick out in a crowd.
Speaker 1:
[09:23] He would just be like, if you're in a library and you saw some little guy sitting over there in the corner, I don't know what he'd be doing, but that's like, that's him. Or, or maybe not. Or maybe he's like, you go into a bookstore and there's somebody ripping pages out of books and throwing them and lighting them on fire. Or maybe that'd be, I think that's him actually.
Speaker 2:
[09:46] His dog's helping him rip the pages out. Buster.
Speaker 1:
[09:50] He is, he's fun.
Speaker 2:
[09:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[09:52] He's funny. He's stressful.
Speaker 2:
[09:56] When he has a weapon in his hands.
Speaker 1:
[09:58] He's a liability out there. But yeah, he's pumped to get his bow. I just texted him today, I think today or yesterday. But yeah, he was, here's how we say it. He's one of a kind.
Speaker 2:
[10:12] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[10:13] He's like a snowflake and a unique snowflake.
Speaker 2:
[10:16] Yeah. And talk about a book end with that one was Andy Stumpf the next day.
Speaker 1:
[10:21] Yeah. Yeah. It was, he's like the ultimate tier, whatever, two, one, whatever seals are it. Are they tier two? I can't remember because I know Rangers are tier two.
Speaker 2:
[10:33] Tier.
Speaker 1:
[10:34] But anyway, it's complete badass, professional, been through so much shit. And then, you know, then Pauly, who's just been in Hollywood forever. It's much different.
Speaker 2:
[10:47] Yeah. But they were both good. Yeah, it's fine. Speaking of badasses who have been in the military.
Speaker 1:
[10:52] I love them both by the way. Yeah. Pauly was badass.
Speaker 2:
[10:55] Well, this would be a good time to say it's all love.
Speaker 1:
[10:59] Oh, it is all love.
Speaker 2:
[11:00] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[11:01] But it's definitely all love with Pauly.
Speaker 2:
[11:02] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[11:03] I'm definitely cheering for him. And then Andy's book, I think we'll find out tomorrow because his first week of his book, Drowned Proof, whether it made New York Times. But he was hustling out there.
Speaker 2:
[11:15] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[11:15] He's on Rogan. He's on Fox and Friends. It's like, that's what you do.
Speaker 2:
[11:19] It's about all you can do.
Speaker 1:
[11:21] If you hit that, I mean, Fox and Friends nowadays, that's like Sesame Street to me.
Speaker 2:
[11:28] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[11:28] But a lot of people watch Sesame Street.
Speaker 2:
[11:34] Huge fan of the Big Bird. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[11:37] So I'm happy for him. I wanted to that list because people like us and him and just regular people don't make New York Times.
Speaker 2:
[11:47] Yeah. Well, I probably won't.
Speaker 1:
[11:49] I'm not saying he's regular. He's not regular. But still, military guys don't either.
Speaker 2:
[11:54] That's what I like about him though is obviously he's a pretty built guy. He doesn't look regular, but I think a lot of people think big jacked guy on steroids or whatever is the most threatening.
Speaker 1:
[12:08] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[12:09] But unassuming could definitely end my life at any point.
Speaker 1:
[12:14] Oh, yeah. You said quiet professional for sure.
Speaker 2:
[12:18] But speaking of bad asses, how about Mike Eagan, BPN?
Speaker 1:
[12:23] Mike Eagan. Yeah. I messaged him, started following him. Yeah. Amazing. I mean, went over 100 miles in his wheelchair. And then I don't know how he could have went further probably, but it's like the mud. He had to get up, like it was pulling his wheelchair.
Speaker 2:
[12:40] Dude.
Speaker 1:
[12:41] But if that track would have stayed dry, I mean, how, I don't know how far he could have went.
Speaker 2:
[12:47] I don't know either, but that, those photos of him pulling that wheelchair.
Speaker 1:
[12:51] Iconic.
Speaker 2:
[12:51] It's like chills.
Speaker 1:
[12:52] Yeah. Now that's like, should be Time Magazine.
Speaker 2:
[12:55] I know.
Speaker 1:
[12:55] photo of the year or something.
Speaker 2:
[12:57] That's how you tell a story with an image. I mean.
Speaker 1:
[12:59] It is, and it's just like, and why I think it's so powerful is because most people, you're in a wheelchair, that's a rap. Yeah. What are you gonna do? Most people have that, like, you know, and I'm not saying, I might have, it's a rap attitude and just because I've been so active, but for him, you know, he was a badass Marine, I believe. Obviously got hurt, but still living, pushing, inspiring. Being a badass, it's like it, I mean, it inspires me. It's like more than almost anyone.
Speaker 2:
[13:36] No excuses. No, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:
[13:38] I mean, it's so much respect. What a badass.
Speaker 2:
[13:42] I know. And then to cap that race off, another friend of the show, Mark Dowdle with the W, which he's a stud.
Speaker 1:
[13:53] And I think what's most impressive about him, I mean, he's like 12 years old or something. Isn't he young?
Speaker 2:
[14:00] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[14:01] And he like, I listen to him and I'm like, I need to be more like this little kid. I could learn a lot from dude. I mean, he's so mature, so smart, so the perspective. Like, you know, saying the shit that you're supposed to say, it's not about winning. It's just about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:
[14:26] That's easy to say when you win it all the time.
Speaker 1:
[14:28] I might say stuff like that. I don't believe that shit. But he says it. I think he believes it.
Speaker 2:
[14:33] I think so too.
Speaker 1:
[14:34] But then instead he just goes and wins anyway, even though he apparently doesn't care about winning, but wants to do his best for the glory of God. And I'm like, dude, I need to, can I, God, can you make me like that guy? That friend of the show?
Speaker 2:
[14:51] Yeah. I mean, there were so many good moments from that race. But the soundtrack he posted that his sister-in-law sang for him, the 12 songs.
Speaker 1:
[15:04] On repeat.
Speaker 2:
[15:05] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[15:05] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[15:05] That was, I don't know, that was just, and in the same breath, like he's super mature, has all these cool takes. He's also funny.
Speaker 1:
[15:12] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[15:12] He has a great sense of humor too. And I'm like, I was really excited for him to kind of get some recognition finally. Not that he hadn't, but we knew what a beast he was. And then he was going up against really good competition. It was like, I remember checking the chat a couple of times and people were like, oh, that Mark Dowdle is going to drop next. He keeps coming in last. And I'm like, you guys have no idea.
Speaker 1:
[15:34] He's got that dog in him.
Speaker 2:
[15:35] Well, he's just sticking to his plan. He is so unbothered.
Speaker 1:
[15:38] And he's huge.
Speaker 2:
[15:40] I know.
Speaker 1:
[15:41] He's like 190.
Speaker 2:
[15:42] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[15:43] I mean, that's way, too big for the general endurance athlete.
Speaker 2:
[15:50] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[15:50] You're just pushing around a lot of weight that other people don't. But he's a specimen. He's another one of one. And just like his attitude and his, I think his faith and his perspective just give him, I mean, it gives you strength, but also it just gives you focus.
Speaker 2:
[16:12] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[16:13] And props, man. And also, hey, I got to say Nick Bear, he's made the second year now. Everyone talks about him. It's like this event. And I was, I messaged his wife, because I've known her longer than I've known him, and took her hunting down in powers. And just said, I'm proud of you guys, just kicking ass.
Speaker 2:
[16:37] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[16:37] I said, it's amazing to see.
Speaker 2:
[16:39] I thought about that too, because it would have been easy for them to just say, oh, we're going to do a BPN like 50K, you know? I mean, that's a hard event. That's more than normal. But the fact that they chose a backyard ultra, which, you know, is in a niche sport, is a niche subsector by itself, is the perfect event to showcase their brand, you know? I mean, it's all about what they preach, basically. So I thought about that too. And I'm like, that's honestly impressive to have that vision, you know?
Speaker 1:
[17:08] Yeah. I was thinking about this, because I love watching Ultranium films. It's like every night. That's almost waiting for a good one. Usually, there's no good ones, but sometimes there's good ones. Anyway, I wish the backyard isn't quite as visually stimulating as a mountain ultra to me. I mean, you get a lot more contact because you're back every hour, but it's just not quite the same. However, there's clips. So I can't watch a whole film. I've seen they have Day Whatever and whatever. I haven't even watched one and I watch all sorts of shit. But the clips, there's this, I don't know if he's Mexican, I don't know what he was, but he was really struggling. It made this started off, he's fresh. Then I went, I think he ended up crying and having all these emotions, like his whole thing, so powerful. And then Kim's, it's his buddy, he crewed him last year. Alex, he's from Germany or somewhere over there too, but he's the one who did that prayer. Did you ever hear that? He's so good with words and writing. So just clips like that are just and chills up your spine. So the films, it's tougher with the film, I think on that.
Speaker 2:
[18:31] Did you watch the film from last year? Like the, not the day breakdowns, but the full film? Because I personally thought it was done super well.
Speaker 1:
[18:43] Yeah, I think I did that one where they ended up like laying on the couches and shook hands. I did watch that. And that was, I guess that was pretty good. It was a little bit different because it wasn't like the one person left. So it had a little different of an element. And I don't know why, maybe just me being weird, or maybe somebody's made a killer when I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:
[19:02] Yeah, or just maybe you kind of know more of the in and outs of a backyard ultra.
Speaker 1:
[19:08] So it's, yeah, it's just, it's really hard when you're, you know, on a race, you're like, you start here, you finish here.
Speaker 2:
[19:15] Right.
Speaker 1:
[19:15] All this is all in the game. You know, you got that ending here, you don't know when it's ever going to end. So it's hard to know when these climaxes or peaks and valleys are happening, I think. We're in a, in like Cocodona, we can tell. It's like night, have a slept in two days, you know, it's like there's shit happening right now. It's just, I don't know why, it's just different. But I love the events. I love following along like everybody does. I just, I'm just thinking of like the media part.
Speaker 2:
[19:47] Yeah. Yeah. I also think it's cool. I mean, this is obvious, but a bunch of like minded individuals together in one place trying to push their limits. I think the energy, I mean, it's the same with like the start line of Cocodona last year was like this, the energy that was insane. Here's a bunch of people lining up knowing they're gonna be in absolute pain.
Speaker 1:
[20:08] It can be the hardest day of their life.
Speaker 2:
[20:10] Exactly.
Speaker 1:
[20:10] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[20:11] But they're still excited. There's something I think really cool about that. And it's hard to capture that. It's hard to bottle that up and put it into a film. Maybe that's the key. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[20:22] It's tough, but I think it's just amazing what people are doing now. And we're able to share it on where everyone can see it and everyone can take part in it in their own kind of way. But for the people in the arena, like doing the races, doing the last man stands, freaking respect, dude, shit is so hard.
Speaker 2:
[20:45] Definitely. You were in Montana for MKC's opening.
Speaker 1:
[20:50] I was there. That was fun. Montana Knife Company, Josh Smith, Brandon Horo, I think is his last name, and their entire team. But what an event. I don't know how many thousand people there, something like that, helicopters, all sorts of shit. But to me, it's like such an incredible story. You know, Josh was a lineman, had this dream of being a knife maker, been doing it for his whole life since he was a little kid, but wanted to make Montana Knife Company. And, you know, a lot of people say they're gonna do all this crazy shit. Most people never do anything. No. And he said it, and dude, freaking building the people, the support, the excitement, the impact on the community, it's, I mean, it was unreal.
Speaker 2:
[21:38] Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine starting out as a knife maker, you envision that as your success, you know?
Speaker 1:
[21:45] Yeah, you're gonna be let down probably almost every time, other than this time. Yeah. And I just, I told him, I said, you know, the impact that this has on the people that see this, either up close in the community or from afar, it just gives people like hope to dream.
Speaker 2:
[22:02] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[22:02] I said, it's such a powerful example. And I said, you deserve credit for this because how many people along the way told you, you're wasting your time. I mean, there's bench made, there's fuck knives, there's tons of knives, right?
Speaker 2:
[22:18] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[22:19] And do we need another one?
Speaker 2:
[22:21] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[22:22] I guess so. Cause this one is crushing.
Speaker 2:
[22:25] Yeah, that's for sure. All right, into some more complaints. I have one specific. You know what St. Vinny's is, right? It's a...
Speaker 1:
[22:35] Yeah, a second hand store.
Speaker 2:
[22:36] Yeah, a second hand store. It's like a Goodwill. People donate things, drop them off for free. And then they sell them cheap to people that need them. Why the f... Is there a couch in St. Vinny's for $1,000? What homeless person is going in there buying a $1,000 couch?
Speaker 1:
[22:53] Yeah. What's up with that?
Speaker 2:
[22:55] I have to blame Trump.
Speaker 1:
[22:59] You had to mention that f... up. God. Yeah. No, you could blame him for a lot of shit these days.
Speaker 2:
[23:07] Yeah. I think he drove the St. Vinny's stocks up. And now I'm having to deal with the consequences.
Speaker 1:
[23:14] For his buddies. So somehow he'll f... up the St. Vinny's market too. So all his inner circle can make billions.
Speaker 2:
[23:22] I think so.
Speaker 1:
[23:23] While we struggle. It's like, that's what he does. He's like, every Friday, Oh, I ran to greed to this ceasefire. And so oil prices go down. All his buddies buy all these shares. Oh, it turns out that was a big lie. None of that's true. You haven't talked to anybody and they think you're a joke. Oh, that's the truth. Okay, so I ran puts out their propaganda shit, prices back up. His buddies who bought it because he said, hey, ceasefire and this deal, they all sell because now it's back up. They're making millions. We're struggling $7 a fucking gallon for diesel.
Speaker 2:
[24:01] What is up with that?
Speaker 1:
[24:02] And it's just like, and this dumb keeps sitting there. We won. Oh, we're winning. We're all we're, it's almost over. Oh, we did win, but not quite yet. It's like, what, what the are you talking about?
Speaker 2:
[24:14] We're getting. And it's all love, by the way.
Speaker 1:
[24:22] It is all love. You know, you know, it's all love. DJ T, DJ, DJ T in the house.
Speaker 2:
[24:30] Well, while we're on a complete up it, while we're on a complaining train, people are got their panties in a wad, in a big wad over a Nike ad for the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 1:
[24:43] Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2:
[24:44] Which is runners celebrated, walkers tolerated. What's your take?
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[28:45] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[28:45] I mean, it's Boston, first of all. So Boston has a qualifying standard. You can't be some f**k, eight hour, seven, six hour marathoner and make Boston. No. There's people who run their whole lives trying to make Boston, can't qualify. Okay. It's supposed to be like any, not elite because he leads Olympians, those people win, but a more elite crowd.
Speaker 2:
[29:09] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[29:09] It means something to qualify. If you got your BQ Boston qualifier, you're a f**k runner. Okay. You can't walk in f**k BQ. So this poster was in Boston for the Boston marathon. What the f**k are you crying about?
Speaker 2:
[29:26] People were saying like, who's that one guy who like did the run walk method and ran a 217 or something? But yeah, tell me what his splits were when he was running. Yeah, let's look at those.
Speaker 1:
[29:39] Jeff Galloway?
Speaker 2:
[29:40] Yeah, Jeff Galloway. That's it. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[29:43] And it's just people getting their, you know, all worked up for no f**k.
Speaker 2:
[29:46] Here's what I think. I think the ad did exactly what it was meant to do.
Speaker 1:
[29:50] Probably. Nike's good at that shit.
Speaker 2:
[29:52] I know.
Speaker 1:
[29:52] I mean, they put Colin Kaepernick on stuff. Obviously, they don't give a f**k.
Speaker 2:
[29:57] I haven't heard Nike talked about like this in a long time. I mean, Nike's always talked about, but like this?
Speaker 1:
[30:03] Yeah, this is, they do stuff like this. I mean, they put up Caitlin Clark, big billboard, you know, and whatever the hell. They lean into, and that was when she was getting like, I don't even know what, all the other girls hated her type thing. So they lean into like, no, these are stars. This is a sport. We don't care. They had the one in the Olympics, saying something about just what it takes to win or something. You know, it's talking about being obsessed or being great. It's like, you know, second place is, that's not good enough. And, or like nobody you remember. I like it all. That's true. We just water down all this shit. Like everyone's a winner. No, you're not. If you walk a marathon, you should not be at Boston.
Speaker 2:
[30:48] No. And if you're offended, wear a pair of hokas.
Speaker 1:
[30:51] Yeah. Wear a pair of hokas.
Speaker 2:
[30:54] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[30:55] I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[30:55] I've seen their ads. I think you'll fit right in.
Speaker 1:
[30:58] I get it. I mean, Ronnie's supposed to be inclusive. Stupid word. But every other race is inclusive. Can't we have one Boston?
Speaker 2:
[31:09] Don't we want that?
Speaker 1:
[31:11] It means something to BQ? God dang, you fricking whiners.
Speaker 2:
[31:17] All right. This one, I got to be careful because it's all love. Let me start it with it's all love. Obviously, but this kid, he goes by Buff Runner on Instagram, is running a thousand miles around a track in like, I think, 15 days or two weeks or something. So not going for the record. But this is good. As everyone does something like this, they first of all, no, he's not. Yeah. Well, we can talk about that after. But when somebody does something like this, they always have like a charity that they want you to donate to. That's great. His charity, and again, it's all love. His charity is for single moms.
Speaker 1:
[32:07] Okay. Yeah. Can I, I'd help. I could help.
Speaker 2:
[32:12] I think I've done my part.
Speaker 1:
[32:17] I've got a big soft spot for single moms. I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2:
[32:24] No.
Speaker 1:
[32:25] No.
Speaker 2:
[32:25] I was just going to say, at least he's being honest.
Speaker 1:
[32:28] No, that's good.
Speaker 2:
[32:29] But yeah, no, it's all love.
Speaker 1:
[32:31] But, but so what's it? How? Okay. He's not going for the record, which is 10 days.
Speaker 2:
[32:37] Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:
[32:38] What's he?
Speaker 2:
[32:39] He's just trying to run it around a track.
Speaker 1:
[32:40] A thousand miles for how and how long?
Speaker 2:
[32:42] I think 15 days.
Speaker 1:
[32:44] It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2:
[32:45] That's still a lot of miles.
Speaker 1:
[32:47] A thousand miles on your body. How far is this run? I probably know. I probably follow.
Speaker 2:
[32:53] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[32:53] Yeah. But I mean, is he, is he legit?
Speaker 2:
[32:57] To do a thousand miles in 15 days.
Speaker 1:
[32:59] Well, nobody's legit for that.
Speaker 2:
[33:02] No, I don't think so. Um, yeah, here it is right here.
Speaker 1:
[33:07] I mean, if he did it, props, but holy shit.
Speaker 2:
[33:11] Yeah. May 20th or April 20th. So he just started to May 4th. I don't think I just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[33:19] But what's he done before?
Speaker 2:
[33:21] He ran 421 miles across Utah.
Speaker 1:
[33:24] How long does it say?
Speaker 2:
[33:26] No, I know that.
Speaker 1:
[33:30] I mean, that's good.
Speaker 2:
[33:32] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[33:33] It's not quite half of a thousand.
Speaker 2:
[33:36] I know Adam Lee Burns has the record to run across Utah. That was nine days, eight hours, 414 miles or whatever it is.
Speaker 1:
[33:45] Yeah. I don't want to, it's all love, so we're not trying to shit on anybody. But Ned Brockman, who is a complete freak, tried to go after that record and did it in 12 days or something. And about ruined his body.
Speaker 2:
[34:02] Yeah. And emphasis, we are not being overdramatic by saying he's a freak. Ned Brockman is a freak.
Speaker 1:
[34:09] The ultimate. Ran across Australia. He's done some really hard shit. So, and he gave his all. And you can see it, gave his all. So it would be amazing if he did it. I just, I think that that is for some very special people. Yeah. He is. Prove me wrong.
Speaker 2:
[34:30] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[34:31] I want to see it.
Speaker 2:
[34:31] Again, it's, we're not hating. I want to emphasize that. I just thought it was funny that the charity was for single. It was for single parents, but there's obviously a joke there and I have to make it. So.
Speaker 1:
[34:41] Yeah. Single moms are the best.
Speaker 2:
[34:43] Yeah, they really are.
Speaker 1:
[34:45] I, that reminded me of another. So here's another challenge, but this guy, I shared it today. He's a coach.
Speaker 2:
[34:52] Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:
[34:53] Colt Smulders. So he had the same type of thing. It reminded me of the same type of thing because he said he's going to run 367 miles in a week.
Speaker 2:
[35:02] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[35:03] Okay. So that's, that's not that pity. I mean, that's slower.
Speaker 2:
[35:09] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[35:09] But anyway, or maybe close anyway, is going to be two marathons a day every day for seven days, 367 miles. So first day, I think he barely got him done like way late at night. So by the time he started the next day, it was noon or something like that and just was not going to happen. That was on day two. So he made this post about how he got humbled.
Speaker 2:
[35:40] I like that.
Speaker 1:
[35:41] I know. I told him, I said, that's the first time ever on social media, because normally it's excuses, normally it's whatever. Nobody ever goes, I screwed up and he did. So I'm like, respect.
Speaker 2:
[35:57] Yeah. And he's run high mileage weeks before, right?
Speaker 1:
[36:00] Yeah. I mean, I think he's run under a four-minute mile. Yeah. It's legit, dude.
Speaker 2:
[36:05] It's just different.
Speaker 1:
[36:06] He is like a legit track athlete and now he's a coach. So I think he was really, really good. I can't remember where he ran. But I mean, he's, you know, one of the at one time, you know, super competitive.
Speaker 2:
[36:20] Yep.
Speaker 1:
[36:21] I would say that has to be elite. But man, these big days on your, and I think he was talking about how his in between his knees and his like his shins or his lower legs, so much pain. And that's 50 miles.
Speaker 2:
[36:36] Yeah. Yeah. You're going to do that. You're going to do more than that for 14 days straight.
Speaker 1:
[36:43] So he threw in the towel after three days.
Speaker 2:
[36:45] I don't know. It took Ned a damn year to even be able to run again.
Speaker 1:
[36:51] To be back.
Speaker 2:
[36:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[36:52] So I mean, I like it. And I think people get stuck doing the math, like say, oh, it's only run this pace. It's slow. I can do that. It's not a track. It's no vertical. You can't.
Speaker 2:
[37:05] No.
Speaker 1:
[37:06] You can't, unless you've been doing this shit for decades, your body is just not used to that many steps.
Speaker 2:
[37:12] And even then.
Speaker 1:
[37:13] Yeah. I mean, there's no guarantee.
Speaker 2:
[37:15] Yeah. You're going to reach a point where it hurts to just take a step. You can't even walk.
Speaker 1:
[37:20] Yeah. I mean, Buff Runner, hey, we're in your corner. I'd love to see it. I'm just like, it's tough.
Speaker 2:
[37:27] Yeah. I feel like he'll at least push himself to the point where he's going to find out. And I mean, there should be some good clips from it.
Speaker 1:
[37:33] So I want to I want to I don't want anybody to do like irreparable damage, but I want a full I want to a good, honest effort.
Speaker 2:
[37:41] Yeah, definitely. Another really cool race that I actually had never heard of until I saw it. But Des Linden, the MDS across the desert. Yeah, sick.
Speaker 1:
[37:49] No, that's a good race.
Speaker 2:
[37:50] It's like a six day or seven day. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[37:53] Yeah, she did good. She got third. I just texted her today, said, hey, I love you. Because she rocked that Montana Knife hat in Boston today, too.
Speaker 2:
[38:00] Yeah, I saw that run with knives.
Speaker 1:
[38:02] So yeah, she said it's one of her favorite hats. But yeah, she and then she had, I think, like a two, around two thirty something. And this was a week after, you know, marathon disables there and wherever the hell that is, a six day stage race.
Speaker 2:
[38:17] Yeah, and the photos from that, those are sick too.
Speaker 1:
[38:22] How they have it is like day four or five is a 100k day.
Speaker 2:
[38:26] So and through sand and dunes and that, and you have to carry all your shit. Yeah, it looks gnarly. Yeah, but it looks super cool.
Speaker 1:
[38:35] Oh, I'd love to do it.
Speaker 2:
[38:36] I know.
Speaker 1:
[38:36] I'd love to do it.
Speaker 2:
[38:37] I'd love just to go experience it. But well, we should have talked about this when we mentioned Trump. But I did see a tweet about more. He was shit talking Green Berets again.
Speaker 1:
[38:48] I don't think that's real.
Speaker 2:
[38:49] You don't think that was real?
Speaker 1:
[38:50] For Nate.
Speaker 2:
[38:52] Yeah, for Nate. And then obviously...
Speaker 1:
[38:53] Nate's going to come on the pod.
Speaker 2:
[38:55] Oh, nice.
Speaker 1:
[38:55] Because he's just from out here, but that can't be real.
Speaker 2:
[38:58] I hope not.
Speaker 1:
[38:59] I mean, I think to Nate's point, it's like the fact that there's even a question is the problem.
Speaker 2:
[39:06] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:07] And this is like, you read it and you're like, you'd want to say that there's no way that the president of the United States would say this type of stupid shit. But with this president, he did say, who knows a law. So he said so much dumb stuff for a while there. It was every day, multiple times a day. I'm like, can this bitch take a break on the retarded posts?
Speaker 2:
[39:33] Do you have nothing better to do?
Speaker 1:
[39:36] Go do something for f**k sake. You're making a joke of us, of you, of... I mean, I don't even get it. And for the people that still are somehow dick writing him, it's like, how f**king dumb are you? Holy s**t.
Speaker 2:
[39:53] There's this... It's called the Necessary Conversation Podcast. And it's these two kids, their siblings and their parents. And they... Have you seen that? Yeah. And the dad is like, yeah, doesn't matter what Trump does.
Speaker 1:
[40:06] Oh, I know. Well, to Trump's point, he said at one time he could go down on Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody. And he'd get away with it. And I'm like, probably for some of these people, I seriously think so, they would justify it somehow. And I'm like, because I'm looking at everything he's saying and doing, I'm like, how in the hell is anybody... You're good with genocide? So you guys are good with genocide? Because that's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2:
[40:33] Yeah, and our president threatening war crimes.
Speaker 1:
[40:36] And that's good to go? What?
Speaker 2:
[40:39] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[40:40] What kind of society are we in now?
Speaker 2:
[40:43] I don't even know how we got here.
Speaker 1:
[40:45] I mean, just... Oh, yeah, ceasefire, but Israel just go ahead and bomb the shit out of Lebanon still. That's fine. It's fine. Yeah, right in the apartments. Yeah, the kids. Yeah. Kill them all.
Speaker 2:
[40:56] Set that playground, aim for the jungle.
Speaker 1:
[40:59] I mean, it's just nuts how this is like somehow not like the biggest uprising and tragedy and scandal in US history.
Speaker 2:
[41:13] We're too comfortable.
Speaker 1:
[41:16] Or Trump has been so ridiculous that we're just like, we got nothing we can do. We're duck. I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[41:28] I don't know either.
Speaker 1:
[41:29] I mean, I saw something like we had some update on the website for the last month. And it's like, you know, obviously sales are not the best they've ever been like, I don't know, wondering if we're going to go to World War Three. Do you think people want to go buy baseball hats and t-shirts? God, you never know. You could wake up in the morning and, oh, here we go.
Speaker 2:
[41:51] You've been selected.
Speaker 1:
[41:52] You know, we're attacking China because Bibi said to.
Speaker 2:
[41:57] Big Yahoo. Well, that is kind of leads into my next point, which you guys, the viewers, absolutely blew up the comments on the last Shit Talkers on Spotify. And for the first time ever in the history of Shit Talkers, there's actually some good ones.
Speaker 1:
[42:16] What?
Speaker 2:
[42:17] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[42:17] Why?
Speaker 2:
[42:18] From the Dog Humans. The Dog Humans finally made a couple of good comments. You.
Speaker 1:
[42:22] I mean, they're too busy. They took a break from eating cat shit on the yard.
Speaker 2:
[42:27] Out of the sandbox. Yeah. So I'm going to go through a couple of my favorite ones.
Speaker 1:
[42:32] All right.
Speaker 2:
[42:34] This is a simple one. Also, for those of you that clearly use ChatGPT to write your roasts, do better.
Speaker 1:
[42:39] Yeah, you suck.
Speaker 2:
[42:40] Do better. Anyways, James is the type of dude that closes his fridge with his hand. Yeah. That's from Anthony Seifert. Next one, John John. Only real men wipe their dicks with Sandy Grit. 60 Grit Sandpaper.
Speaker 1:
[42:58] Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:
[43:01] Let's see. Oh, damn, it's crazy how Gilly Weed is making performative comments to tee up Cam's balls to land perfectly on his forehead.
Speaker 1:
[43:11] Holy shit. That's a good visual there.
Speaker 2:
[43:18] Let's see. Ran my first 50K last weekend, but DNFed at mile 17. Ended up having a dude be on my butt hole.
Speaker 1:
[43:36] See, we helped that guy.
Speaker 2:
[43:37] That's good shit.
Speaker 1:
[43:38] We, he would have been stuck out there without our tip.
Speaker 2:
[43:40] The human bidet.
Speaker 1:
[43:41] Yeah, without our tip. So you're welcome.
Speaker 2:
[43:46] This is one of my personal favorites. James, thank you for being proof that proximity to greatness doesn't transfer us.
Speaker 1:
[43:52] It takes more than just being around it, I guess.
Speaker 2:
[43:56] Let's see, oh, this is a good one too. It's all love. Cam Hanes plus Amoxicillin since birth equals lesser Cam Hanes. Plus even more Amoxicillin since birth equals average guy. Average guy plus max dose of Amoxicillin since conception equals Gideon. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:16] So that's like a story problem.
Speaker 2:
[44:19] It's kind of a riddle. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:21] That's nice.
Speaker 2:
[44:22] Yeah. We got a little riddler.
Speaker 1:
[44:24] Nice layers.
Speaker 2:
[44:25] Now, let's see. This guy even admitted to asking chap GPT to roast me. That's come on.
Speaker 1:
[44:30] I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[44:33] Somebody's mad that we had too much bathroom talk. So we cleaned it up.
Speaker 1:
[44:36] This time. This time is really good.
Speaker 2:
[44:43] Glad James learned he can wipe his own dick now instead of having his mom do it.
Speaker 1:
[44:49] Yeah. Your mom's good with the dicks.
Speaker 2:
[44:57] Shout out mom.
Speaker 1:
[44:58] Yours. Any one.
Speaker 2:
[45:01] That's genetic because she passed it down.
Speaker 1:
[45:04] To you.
Speaker 2:
[45:04] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[45:05] You picked up that trait nicely.
Speaker 2:
[45:07] Thanks, Bob.
Speaker 1:
[45:08] Did you put up that video I sent you today?
Speaker 2:
[45:10] No, I have.
Speaker 1:
[45:15] He's like DP with the popsicles of the mouth. One was brown, one was white. Did you notice that? It's going to get a little biracial.
Speaker 2:
[45:24] Call that an Oreo.
Speaker 1:
[45:25] Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2:
[45:26] Cameron Hanes built like a Greek statue, but somehow still chooses to podcast with a human participation trophy.
Speaker 1:
[45:36] That's a good one. I hope that wasn't chat because that was legit.
Speaker 2:
[45:42] This one's good too. I'm not great at talking shit, but I am great at banging Gideon's mom, tell her I'll stop by to make a deposit later.
Speaker 1:
[45:52] Oh my god. You said your mom listens to this?
Speaker 2:
[45:56] I hope not. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[47:19] This is a good one. We like this one. Gilligan lying about his mild time makes me giggle. And even if it was really true, the big Yahoo could run that circumcised with a torn ACL. Also, BB wants to tell you somehow it's all love and would love, and would you love me if I peed on your butt?
Speaker 1:
[47:39] That's one of the greatest comments that I've ever seen on Spotify. Actually, that's going to be our new t-shirt. That post right there is a new t-shirt. Yeah, that's sick.
Speaker 2:
[47:51] This is one simple, and it's Gideon looks like a gayer Elton John.
Speaker 1:
[47:58] Oh, God, holy shit. Elton John looks pretty damn gay with all his outfits.
Speaker 2:
[48:04] I love this one because I love when people comment this shit, but James is the true definition of a pre-cum baby.
Speaker 1:
[48:14] These are good.
Speaker 2:
[48:15] I know. That's it. These are the best ones.
Speaker 1:
[48:18] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[48:19] The rest of them were.
Speaker 1:
[48:20] Nice job, guys.
Speaker 2:
[48:23] Round of applause.
Speaker 1:
[48:23] It's all love, right?
Speaker 2:
[48:24] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[48:25] Is it all love for you guys too, or is that just us?
Speaker 2:
[48:28] It's not going to be all love when I go home and kill myself.
Speaker 1:
[48:30] No, but for right now, it's all good.
Speaker 2:
[48:33] Yeah, you're all going in my note, by the way. That brings me to my final point, which is some reason those comments reminded me that this girl I was talking to one time left my number in a porta potty in Alabama that said, send pictures of your poop to this number.
Speaker 1:
[48:53] Oh my God. And people did, because what else are you going to do in a...
Speaker 2:
[49:00] I got like three or four of them. It was Hanes. But also Ashton, if you're listening, that's funny. So that's...
Speaker 1:
[49:10] Is that supposedly some real girl?
Speaker 2:
[49:12] Real girl, right?
Speaker 1:
[49:14] Or was it the 1-900 number girl?
Speaker 2:
[49:16] Some people might be wondering how a girl, well, it was a porta potty, so I guess there's no sex, but...
Speaker 1:
[49:22] Yeah, no, that's all good. But she's not real, but that's fine.
Speaker 2:
[49:26] No.
Speaker 1:
[49:27] It's some guy, Miguel.
Speaker 2:
[49:29] Miguel. Manuel.
Speaker 1:
[49:33] Manuel Labor.
Speaker 2:
[49:34] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[49:36] Yeah, that... You know what? I did have one other thing.
Speaker 2:
[49:42] Good.
Speaker 1:
[49:45] Trump. One thing I'm getting pissed about, besides World War III, Donald Trump, what the f*** is up with the public land bullshit? Every f***ing thing that we value, that we hold dear, that so many people, like, would do anything to protect, this f***ing administration keeps trying to sell it, sell all this shit, all this shit in Alaska, the f***ing Boundary Waters in Minnesota, the f***ing... Moving the Forest Service offices to Utah to where Mike Lee can get in there and f*** it up and rip up who knows what agreements we have for public lands, but to sell it, to China or his f***ing rich developer buddies or whoever. The people who voted for Trump love public land. We're f***ing conservatives, Republicans, hunters, rural people, fishermen, people that love the mounds. What the f*** are you doing with public lands? I mean, this is like, okay, you know how celebrated Teddy Roosevelt is for protecting public land, for creating parks, for creating Yellowstone, for that is like, that is he's revered for that legacy. Trump is a f***ing opposite. He actually put a picture. The last time that we, all the people got together, not one acre, like Lee, the last time we won that Trump somehow made it about himself, put up a picture, a huge picture of him and Teddy Roosevelt side by side. It's like it couldn't be any more polar opposite. Teddy Roosevelt is a f***ing leader, a respectable man, f***ing did what was right by the American people. Donald Trump, the exact opposite. I voted for him three times. I f***ing campaigned for him. I believed when he said that he no more new wars, close the borders, help our economy. I believe that. If he would have said, hey, we're going to try to f***ing divvy up and sell all public land. Oh, and we're also going to f***ing genocide Lebanon and Gaza. And we're also going to f***ing make it impossible to live, making it possible to afford f***ing anything. You can't even buy gas. Oh, and also we're going to add the debt's going to be $39 trillion. When you said the tariffs, your f***ing right idea of the tariffs, we're going to pay off the debt and we're going to get rebates. Oh, no, the debt's higher than it's ever been. And we're never paying that shit off.
Speaker 2:
[52:29] No, we had to pay back the tariffs.
Speaker 1:
[52:31] And yeah, the tariffs were not even real. No, we're paying back China for the f***ing tariffs. So this guy and people, here's how dumb f***ing people are. Oh, Trump's playing 3D chess underwater. It's like what? I heard that one the other day. Not just 3D, not to 4D, not to 5D, but 3D chess underwater. No, he has no clue what he's doing. And his cabinet is about the biggest group of f***ups you'd ever seen.
Speaker 2:
[53:02] I just don't know if I've ever seen somebody fail on so many fronts.
Speaker 1:
[53:06] And everything he talked about, everything he criticized previous presidents for doing, he did it times 10.
Speaker 2:
[53:14] I can't help but think it's just like, well, I f*** up big, I might as well just let my true color show and just do it all.
Speaker 1:
[53:20] Or he's the Antichrist because I've seen that too.
Speaker 2:
[53:23] Well, he's not because he photoshopped himself as Jesus. But he was a doctor. He was a doctor in red robes.
Speaker 1:
[53:32] Dude, it's non-stop, it's every day, you look at something and you're like, is this f***ing real? Sure as s*** it's real. And you're like, I cannot be more disappointed or more like shocked. This is where we're at.
Speaker 2:
[53:43] It'd be cool if America wasn't like a joke.
Speaker 1:
[53:47] That'd be neat. Remember when we were the superpower? Remember when we were the greatest country in the world?
Speaker 2:
[53:52] Not anymore.
Speaker 1:
[53:53] Now f***ing we have no alliances other than Israel. And we're talking about taking over, we're gonna take over Cuba and f***ing Turkey and Greenland. It's like, can we f***ing fix this s*** here? Can we do anything here?
Speaker 2:
[54:09] Let's focus on here, maybe.
Speaker 1:
[54:12] You have already f***ed up so much, there's not gonna be, I didn't give a f*** about Republicans, but he is a Republican and they're f***ing. The midterms are ridiculous, dude. And, you know, people will say, oh, so you won Kamala? No, I don't want that dumb b***h. But I want somebody normal who's not gonna just f*** us everywhere.
Speaker 2:
[54:38] I feel like, and maybe not, because so many people are still polarized with their party, now could be a great time for somebody independent.
Speaker 1:
[54:48] How hard is it just to get a smart, tough, normal, not lying person?
Speaker 2:
[54:57] I think it's impossible.
Speaker 1:
[54:58] I mean, that's not compromised somehow.
Speaker 2:
[55:01] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[55:01] I just don't think that's ever gonna happen. I saw, I put up this whole clip the other day of JFK. And I was just like, holy shit. That what an amazing president and how he spoke. Oh, and how it was just like, and I said something like, how like, how far we've fallen from that. If that was the standard, I don't even know. I don't even know where we're at.
Speaker 2:
[55:29] Yeah. I mean, I saw that the Ibogaine, whatever bill that got passed.
Speaker 1:
[55:36] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[55:37] That's a good thing.
Speaker 1:
[55:38] That was good. It's like, of course Joe's getting beat up for that because he was there and you know, so they're saying, oh, he's compromised. It's like, you know, he, all he wanted to do, Joe wants to just do the right thing. He wants to do what he thinks is best for everyone. And yeah, we got f*****g duped on Trump and I can't blame him for that because I got f*****g duped. Oh, I always f*****g falls deep on all this s**t.
Speaker 2:
[56:04] So we've talked about, can somebody not admit that they're wrong or they made the wrong decision based off the information they had? It's like, everyone wants to say, I told you so, it's like, oh cool, you told me so and we're all f*****g duped.
Speaker 1:
[56:16] What did you tell me?
Speaker 2:
[56:17] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[56:18] Because did you tell me that the Democrats want every kid to be transgender and just mutilated and some asexual like society? Because that's the way that was going. Yeah, so I don't want that, but I don't want this either.
Speaker 2:
[56:36] I know, we're.
Speaker 1:
[56:38] God, I mean.
Speaker 2:
[56:40] And we just need Daddy BB to save us all.
Speaker 1:
[56:44] Definitely need Jesus on this one, because I don't know how this is gonna work out.
Speaker 2:
[56:49] Yeah, I did have a thought, which was, you know, when like a baby's born, they kind of default to like love.
Speaker 1:
[56:59] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[56:59] You know, a baby's born happy. They don't know any better.
Speaker 1:
[57:01] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[57:02] And so it made me think that maybe the human experience, the human test is just how much evil you can endure in your life and still be able to love at the end.
Speaker 1:
[57:13] Fun game.
Speaker 2:
[57:15] Quite the gauntlet at the moment.
Speaker 1:
[57:17] Yeah, it sucks. So I think we'll wrap this up. Boston Marathon today. I think performances.
Speaker 2:
[57:28] Friend of the show, Omar Lopez. We're at 244.
Speaker 1:
[57:31] Oh, did?
Speaker 2:
[57:32] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[57:32] Nice. Yeah, like that. Let's see, who else? Oh, fast times. They had cool weather and a tailwind. Everybody, yard today.
Speaker 2:
[57:44] I saw that.
Speaker 1:
[57:44] I mean, the winner 201.
Speaker 2:
[57:48] Course record.
Speaker 1:
[57:48] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[57:49] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[57:50] Course record. No, it wasn't for the women. It's 218. Course record is 217. But Jess McLean, who's coming on the podcast, she was first set the American record for Boston, and she had a great race. So she sent me a message after the race. But yeah, we're going to get her here.
Speaker 2:
[58:07] Did she walk?
Speaker 1:
[58:09] Yeah. She alternated walk, run. Yeah. That's the best way to do it.
Speaker 2:
[58:14] I did have one more thing, and I wasn't going to mention this because he deleted it, but it's shit talkers, so why not? Jeff, he's an Ultrarunner, hates social media. Anyways, Jeff.
Speaker 1:
[58:28] Oh, but has a podcast and is on social media all the time? Garmire.
Speaker 2:
[58:32] Garmire.
Speaker 1:
[58:32] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[58:34] You see his post about BPN?
Speaker 1:
[58:35] No.
Speaker 2:
[58:36] The Go One More Ultrarunner, he was complaining about all the runners getting attention at the events just for attention, and if you do it, you just want attention, and everyone's like, dude, that's what he's making the post about. Yeah. Do you not see the irony in you making a post for attention?
Speaker 1:
[58:53] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[58:54] I mean, dude.
Speaker 1:
[58:55] I mean, he's the one who came up. I was a Taylor Swift of Ultrarunning, that guy, which I don't give a, but that is kind of tone deaf.
Speaker 2:
[59:05] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[59:05] I mean, you're on social media all the time, all the shit you do, all your videos, all your podcasts, all your posts.
Speaker 2:
[59:12] Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[59:14] And like, who's to say what's right or wrong? Are you the torchbearer for how like Ultrarunning media should be done? Do you make the, like, no, you can't do that. You got to do it like this. It's like...
Speaker 2:
[59:27] Well, in the same breath, he's like, you know, BPN just used it to get attention for their brand and they should have had, it's like, but they should have had better live streaming and like, wait, so...
Speaker 1:
[59:36] You want more?
Speaker 2:
[59:37] More attention?
Speaker 1:
[59:37] More coverage? Yeah. I mean, he's trying to get content, engagement, it's the game, it's whatever. It's like, he might not even believe that. Maybe it's just, I don't know, maybe he doesn't, I don't...
Speaker 2:
[59:51] Well, in his world, there would be no brands and...
Speaker 1:
[59:53] Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:
[59:54] Nobody would get paid to be an athlete.
Speaker 1:
[59:56] You know, I do get the dirt bag, you know, like back in the old days, but you weren't making a living doing it.
Speaker 2:
[60:03] Yeah, but I also feel like those dirt bags, they actually didn't care. It's like modern day hippies. These girls on Instagram are hippies, but they post every minute of their day. It's like, if you're a real hippie, you wouldn't have a smartphone.
Speaker 1:
[60:14] No, and you'd have bush coming out of your... It's out of your shorts.
Speaker 2:
[60:18] Dirty feet and hairy armpits, just like I like them.
Speaker 1:
[60:21] The best. That musty smell. It's sick.
Speaker 2:
[60:25] It smells like mung beans.
Speaker 1:
[60:26] So good.
Speaker 2:
[60:26] And mildew.
Speaker 1:
[60:27] Yeah, so it's like, no, it's, whatever. I mean, it's...
Speaker 2:
[60:33] All love.
Speaker 1:
[60:34] It's just engagement. I mean, you can say crazy shit. I wish you wouldn't have deleted it because how it's supposed to work. Cause you say crazy shit. Everybody freaks out. And then you back off. Do you say, okay, yeah, you're right. And then, then you double down.
Speaker 2:
[60:50] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[60:51] I mean, you don't delete stuff.
Speaker 2:
[60:52] No, if you're going to play the game, play the game.
Speaker 1:
[60:54] Yeah. It was the game. You're doing the game, right? Why'd you quit?
Speaker 2:
[60:59] Pussy.
Speaker 1:
[61:02] I mean, you got to put, put flames on that Bentley, baby. You don't go halfway. No.
Speaker 2:
[61:09] You know, speaking of haters, I haven't heard about in a long time, is your number one hater.
Speaker 1:
[61:15] Who?
Speaker 2:
[61:16] Cut quietly.
Speaker 1:
[61:17] Oh, oh, man.
Speaker 2:
[61:20] I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 1:
[61:20] Well, they blocked me.
Speaker 2:
[61:21] Well, I'm not blocked and I still haven't seen anything.
Speaker 1:
[61:24] About me?
Speaker 2:
[61:25] No, just about anything. Every now and then, usually I'll get a post that pops up and I'm like, I gotta go down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:
[61:31] Well, here's, okay, here's how dumb he is. You cannot, okay, he wants to make me the villain. Okay?
Speaker 2:
[61:41] Got it.
Speaker 1:
[61:42] He's the hero.
Speaker 2:
[61:43] Right.
Speaker 1:
[61:44] This is how hunting is supposed to be. I'm the antithesis of how it's supposed to be. I'm the opposite. I'm the antichrist of hunting, right? You can't be a hero without a villain. He blocked his villain. I was the one making, get him all worked up and f***** commenting about his stupid s**t. And that kept all his f***** minions engaged and all worked up about his dumb f***** mindset. So now I'm gone. You just f***** yourself. It's the same thing, just like Garmire. F***** play the game.
Speaker 2:
[62:16] Yeah, you're going to do it.
Speaker 1:
[62:17] I mean, what are you doing? F***** guys.
Speaker 2:
[62:21] Yeah, if you're going to do it, go all the way. That's what my uncle used to say.
Speaker 1:
[62:28] Yeah, so Boston today, I had to, who else? Oh, that Weston Homa, he called me today. He's trying to break 240, got 242, I think, which good run, good run. That's happy for him. Good kid, hard worker, has big dreams. He's coming here to Eugene to run now. Let's see. Oh, Sarah Hall, she set the Masters record. I can't remember what place she got, but to maybe 25, 24, she's coming. Her book's just coming out, so she's going to come. I got her and Jess McLean, which were both in the lead pack for a while, which is cool.
Speaker 2:
[63:02] Shelby?
Speaker 1:
[63:03] Shelby. Yeah, she's been-
Speaker 2:
[63:05] The other day?
Speaker 1:
[63:06] She's fit. She's fit. Looks like a badass too. I f*****g- She's just f*****g feisty. I like her attitude. Yeah, I do too. She just looks intense and she f*****g sends it. Yeah, it's good. She can f*****g-
Speaker 2:
[63:23] So, well, yeah, we got Eugene coming up. That's big.
Speaker 1:
[63:27] I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:
[63:28] A lot of anticipation.
Speaker 1:
[63:34] What about after? Is that what you're trying to get to?
Speaker 2:
[63:40] There might be something after.
Speaker 1:
[63:42] I told Courtney today, I said, if I f*****g survive Cocodona, which I probably won't, I said, you owe me an adventure. So she says, after this bulls**t with Cocodona, she's like, all June, she's going to be getting ready for Hot Rock. She's like, let's do it. So June, we're going to f*****g do something epic. If I make it through Cocodona. But yeah, so that was a, I mean, I guess that I am signed up, unfortunately. And I, you know, today I sent Courtney my, I ran seven miles at like, I don't know, six something pace. I said, is this good, Cocodona? I have not, I've only been doing kind of fast miles. And I just don't know how it's going to work out.
Speaker 2:
[64:32] I know it'll be interesting to see what the weather's like. Hopefully not disgustingly rainy.
Speaker 1:
[64:38] Yeah. But first let's get through Eugene without getting hurt.
Speaker 2:
[64:41] Right.
Speaker 1:
[64:42] I'm going to set a, I think, unless I completely shit the bed, I'm going to set the all time PR for my old ass there. I'll put up a post about it, but my second best time is with Lance in Boston. First best time was against Lance again in 2006, two years before that. I think I only saw him for a second, but I ran New York City Marathon 2006 and I got 250, 21. And I beat him. He got like 259. But so I got 250, 21, 2006, 20 years ago. It's my best marathon.
Speaker 2:
[65:23] So usually how it goes.
Speaker 1:
[65:24] And here's here's what here's how here's why it's so different. I've run multiple marathons, including that one, including Boston with Lance right there. No gels, no water, net, no super shoes for sure. Didn't know shit about all I did was just run kind of slow miles. Didn't even know if I could. I ran 630s for that race. Never ran 630s in training. So now, all speed work, light.
Speaker 2:
[66:00] Good recovery.
Speaker 1:
[66:01] Oh, good shoes. Yeah, now it's the gels every 30 minutes. So it's like, let's see what happens. But basically just raw dogging every other marathon. I remember Eugene, right by South, it's like mile seven or eight, something coming around. Remember I got half, maybe a quarter of a banana one time. That's my feeling.
Speaker 2:
[66:24] That's good.
Speaker 1:
[66:25] And now they're like, no, you need gel, like a hundred grams of carbs every 30 minutes. So who knows what my glycogen and what my energy level towards the end was, but I'm just excited like, you know, ran today. I ran a 530 in the middle of that thing today. I think I can, I'll definitely get under 250, I think. Again, unless I shit the bed, but we'll see.
Speaker 2:
[66:52] Stay tuned.
Speaker 1:
[66:53] That guy who I ran LA with, Zendati, he got 236 in Boston today.
Speaker 2:
[67:02] He was going for sub 230.
Speaker 1:
[67:03] Yeah. But still the fact that we ran together, and maybe he could have went a little faster, but we ran 120 in that half.
Speaker 2:
[67:13] Yeah, but you could have also gone. I could have won faster.
Speaker 1:
[67:15] Yeah, I did go faster in my 20-mile run. I did 118 just by myself. But yeah, so I mean, if he's in that shape and we ran together, maybe I could have, God, I think I can get low 40s.
Speaker 2:
[67:31] You have to find out.
Speaker 1:
[67:33] Okay, stay tuned.
Speaker 2:
[67:34] Stay tuned.
Speaker 1:
[67:35] Bentley tomorrow.
Speaker 2:
[67:37] Bentley.
Speaker 1:
[67:37] We're picking it up. So we need content.
Speaker 2:
[67:39] Yeah. They didn't email me back.
Speaker 1:
[67:42] Who?
Speaker 2:
[67:43] When are you going? They got the rap guys.
Speaker 1:
[67:44] Oh, I haven't heard.
Speaker 2:
[67:45] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[67:46] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[67:46] You just text me.
Speaker 1:
[67:47] But yeah, and I'm going to be giving away a bow here. This might come out, but so I can give the money to Rick for his new church. Okay, guys, remember, it's all love. Trump, it's all love for you. Oh, hey, and the people who say, hey, smash and comment and do it, scribe, they probably sit in the corner and watch some guy for their old lady, don't they?
Speaker 2:
[68:12] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[68:12] If you got to beg for likes, well, okay, you're up quietly.
Speaker 2:
[68:17] So if those guys are cucks, who are the guys that actually comment who listen to it?
Speaker 1:
[68:22] And I'm going to go subscribe.
Speaker 2:
[68:24] Those are the guys that watch the cucks get cut.
Speaker 1:
[68:28] Yeah. So if you haven't heard, don't comment, don't subscribe, don't even listen.
Speaker 2:
[68:33] That being said for me, go comment, go like.
Speaker 1:
[68:36] Yeah. Obviously, that's not real.
Speaker 2:
[68:39] That's all love.
Speaker 1:
[68:41] off.
Speaker 2:
[68:42] off. Don't comment.
Speaker 1:
[68:44] It's all love. No, it's not. I hate your ass.
Speaker 2:
[68:47] We hate you.
Speaker 1:
[68:48] Actually, I love you. No, I hate you. Love you. Hate you. Love you. Hate you. Oh, and if you want to crew me at Cocodona, smash that comment button.
Speaker 2:
[68:59] Yeah, go fill out the prompt and smash that comment button.
Speaker 1:
[69:01] Yeah, because I guess I'm going crewless on this bitch.
Speaker 2:
[69:04] Yeah, it's self-supported.
Speaker 1:
[69:07] All right. See you guys next time. Keep hammering.