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Speaker 2:
[00:26] All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off. It's me and you. And you caught me right in the middle of reading the indictment from the Department of Justice. Well, actually the Grand Jury Indictment, not the Department of Justice, not a prosecutor indictment, but the Grand Jury Indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center. And Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said, a federal indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center was not politically motivated during an appearance on Fox News. The Alabama-based civil rights group was federally indicted Tuesday on fraud charges and is accused of funneling millions of dollars to pay informants to infiltrate extremist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. We'll go through the specifics here in just a moment and any questions that we have. And like we always have done in any investigation, we look for what is being presented to us and what the facts are based on the law, no matter whether it was the original Russia collusion hoax, which was a hoax as we all know, or any accusation against a Republican. We've always done it the same way. What is the law? What is the indictment? What is the evidence being presented here? And that's how we've always done it here on the show. And I think if you've been a long time listener or even a short time listener, for the most part, you know that. So that indictment is free for everybody to read. And if the takeaway is that it's political, I mean, I think the opposite is true. Blanche told Fox News, he described the Southern Poverty Law Center's alleged conduct as extraordinarily egregious, saying the group paid 3 million to people associated with the United Clans of America and other extremist organizations from 2014 to 2023. The group faces charges including wire fraud, false statements to a bank, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which uses litigation to fight white supremacy and dismantle extremist groups, well, they've changed over the years as we all know. Who was it? What Republican did they put on a hate group one time and they finally removed them? They were putting mainstream conservative groups on. I can't think of who it was. Their mission has completely changed. Just like the American Civil Liberties Union. It's completely different ball game than what it was 30 years ago. But as they have for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which uses litigation to fight white supremacy and dismantle extremist groups, performed counter to its mission, Blanche said, the very entities that this group was raising money to go against are the very entities that they were taking the money in and paying to these entities and these individuals associated with these groups. Let me go back here. I've got so many windows open here. Looking at all this. Okay, what we have right now, the Southern Poverty Law Center indicted six counts of wire fraud, four counts of false statements to a federally insured bank, one count of conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering. So that's the indictment so far that came from the grand jury. Blanche claimed that the Southern Poverty Law Center funded informants helped initiate the deadly Ku Klux Klan rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017. What we allege in the indictment and what the grand jury found is that one of the individuals that they paid was one of the folks who helped organize that terrible event. They were part of it. That's all in quotes by the way. Blanche said the Southern Poverty Law Center pushed back on the indictment defending what its interim CEO Brian Fair described as prior use of paid confidential informants to gather credible intelligence on extremely violent groups. There's no information that we had that suggests that the money that they were paying to these informants and these members of these organizations that then they turned around and shared what they learned with law enforcement, Blanche said. In a video response to the indictment, the CEO of the Southern Poverty Law Center said his civil rights group was targeted by the Trump administration and expressed outrage over the false allegations from the Justice Department. The actions by the DOJ will not shake our resolve to fight for justice and ensure the promise of the civil rights movement becomes a reality for all. So again, six counts of wire fraud, four counts of false statements to a federally insured bank, one count of conspiracy to commit concealment, money laundering is what we have so far and did I? Okay, there it is. I have the actual indictment here in front of me and I was just going through it a couple of times. I read it a couple of times. It's 14 pages long and just to try to simplify it as much as possible. I'm not going to go through all of where the money went to because it's not where the money went to because you can do whatever you want with your money. You get it as a non-profit. The fraud comes in. The fraud has to be specific and that's what we're going to look for in the indictment here. But between 2014 and 2023, the Southern Poverty Law Center secretly funneled more than 3 million in funds to...

Speaker 3:
[07:04] Let's see. What does that stand for? Let's see.

Speaker 2:
[07:09] What do they call them? Field sources they call them. Between 2014 and 2023, the Southern Poverty Law Center secretly funneled more than 3 million to Southern Poverty Law Center funds to these field sources who were associated with various violent extremist groups. They paid the field sources in a clandestine manner, doing so hid the fact that while this is from the indictment, while the SPLC received donation money under the auspices that the funds would be used to dismantle violent extremist groups, this donation money was instead being used in part by the Southern Poverty Law Center to pay leaders and others within the same violent extremist groups. That money was then used for the benefit of the individuals, as well as the violent extremist groups. And they go through some examples of the field sources that were secretly paid from the Southern Poverty Law Center, include but are not limited to the following. Field source 37 was a member of the Online Leadership Chat group that planned the 2017 Unite the Right event in Charlottesville, Virginia, and attended the event of the direction of the Southern Poverty Law Center. F37, that's the field source, made racist postings under the supervision of the Southern Poverty Law Center and helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees between 2015 and 2023. The Southern Poverty Law Center paid this field source more than $270,000. Field source nine was affiliated with the neo-Nazi organization, the National Alliance, and served as a field source for the Southern Poverty Law Center for more than 20 years. Field source nine's activities included fundraising for the National Alliance. Between 2014 and 2023, the Southern Poverty Law Center secretly paid this field source more than $1 million. In 2014, field source nine entered the headquarters of a violent extremist group and stole 25 boxes of their documents. F9 coordinated payment for the copying of the materials with a high-level Southern Poverty Law Center employee who had knowledge the documents had been stolen. The original stolen materials were returned to the violent extremist group in a second illegal entry by field source nine. Thereafter, a high-level Southern Poverty Law Center employer utilized the documents in part as the basis for a story published on their hate watch website and authored by the employee. Another source was blamed for the theft and was paid approximately six thousand dollars by the Southern Poverty Law Center to falsely take responsibility for the theft. There was another field source was the Imperial Wizard of the United Clans of America. In an article published on November 22, 2013, the Southern Poverty Law Center described the group as a millennial reboot of one of what was once a serious domestic threat in its prime. The United Clans of America was responsible for, among other things, the 16th Street Baptist bombing in Birmingham, Alabama, which resulted in the deaths of four little girls. And they go on and on and on with the money that was paid. Now, try to see the crime. To secretly funnel donated money to these field sources, individuals at the Southern Poverty Law Center, including a person who would become the Chief Financial Officer and a person who would become the Director of the Intelligence Project, among others, opened a series of bank accounts at Bank One and Bank Two in the name of various fictitious entities, including not limited to the Center Investigative Agency, CIA, Fox Photography, Northwest Technologies, Tech Writers Group, Rare Books Warehouse. These fictitious entities were never incorporated, had no bona fide employees, and conducted no actual business. At the times relevant to this indictment, Bank One and Bank Two were insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which means that, to me, that I look at that and say, okay, that's their go to call it a federal crime because it's a bank and that is insured by the FDIC. Let me see, and then they go through counts one through six, beginning in or about 2014 and continuing through at least August of 2023. In the Middle District of Alabama, the defendant devised and intended to devise a scheme to defraud donors and attempted to do so and to obtain money and property belonging to donors by materially false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, promises and omissions. The objective of the scheme was to obtain money via donations through material false representations and omissions about what the donated funds would be used for. All right, and so that's basically the overview audit. You can go through each and every, they've got each and every wire transfer that was made, the false statements that were, you know, to open up the actual accounts, and they go through point by point by point. I think what you need to get to is what are the specifics? What did those people, what did those sources actually do? Because what the Southern Poverty Law Center is claiming is we were paying them to get information in order to dismantle those particular hate groups. The question would be why would you need to create fictitious places to do that? Why would you set up even any type of electronic transfer? I guess as a non-profit, you just can't take the cash and not have it accounted for. And in this particular case, as a, I'm guessing as a non-profit, this would be a thing. Their taxes, you know, they're filing for that. Was there fraud on their tax statements? So like I said, I just, this all hit me as soon as I woke up just a couple of hours ago. So still going through it and probably have more questions than anything else. But if you have the actual fraud and the fraud was committed, I don't know if it makes a difference if the fraud, which would be the actual setting up of the accounts, has anything to do with what the field sources actually did with that money? Again, talking off the top of my head, as I've just been going over this in the last 45 minutes or so.

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[14:59] So much to talk about.

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[16:12] Red Eye Radio, he is Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off. All right, let's get to the acting Attorney General, Todd Blanche, yesterday on the Grand Jury indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 5:
[16:26] And you're alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue their operations, is that?

Speaker 6:
[16:38] I'm not alleging it. The Grand Jury returned an indictment that says that. And so what the investigation found according to the indictment that was returned today is that they were paying, so the Southern Poverty Law Center was raising money, asking folks to give them money to dismantle racism. And over a very long period of time, they were using some of the money they raised from donors to pay to, they called them field, you know, basically to informants, to, for information, for access, to just pay them for, for certain, to do certain things. And so yes, that's exactly what the indictment charges.

Speaker 2:
[17:17] And the question, one of the questions would be what were those specific certain things? I want to get to where he was on with Laura Ingraham last night on Fox News, and here's part of this back and forth.

Speaker 7:
[17:32] Now they say they're no longer using these informants in this way, and that it was necessary because they had all sorts of threats against the organization, firebombing, threats, and other acts of purported violence. And that's why they had to use these informants. And to that you say?

Speaker 6:
[17:47] Well, to that I say, for one, the indictment charges all the way through 2023. So I'm here to speak about what they're doing right now, but that indictment charge is a long period of time through 2023. And second and more importantly, there's no allegation or information in the indictment that suggests they shared that information with law enforcement. They have communicated-

Speaker 7:
[18:06] They said they did.

Speaker 6:
[18:07] Well, they have communicated when they so chose with law enforcement over the years. There's no information that we have that suggests that the money that they were paying to these informants and these members of these organizations, they then turned around and shared what they learned with law enforcement. To the contrary, or else we would have known from their own words that they had given this money to these guys and we didn't know it.

Speaker 2:
[18:29] And if you look at the actual amounts that went to whom, $1 million to the National Alliance affiliate, $300,000 to the Aryan Nations affiliate. $270,000 to the Unite the Right member, $140,000 to the former National Alliance chairman, $73,000 to former KKK members, and $19,000 to the American front president, who they claim is, and felon is how it's listed here. So, we'll see where this all goes. But it made me think of something that I saw yesterday on TV. That coming up.

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[21:30] And I'm Gary McNamara. He's Eric Harley. He has the morning off. Download our Red Eye Radio app today. You can listen when you choose. All right, so I'm thinking aloud here as I'm just, you know, when I woke up is when I learned about the grand jury indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center. So this is more thinking out loud as I review the indictment and things pop into my head about what you're going to need. I mean, a grand jury indictment would be one thing. What would you need for a jury? And when I look at, for example, they have the six counts of wire fraud, four counts of false statements to a federally insured bank, one count of conspiracy to commit, money laundering, concealment. And I'm like, where's the money laundering? And if you look at it, the indictment talks about the fact that they set up fake entities that were not incorporated in order to transfer that money that did not exist. You know, they weren't incorporated. They weren't real organizations. By doing that in itself, and this is what, because what I haven't gotten is, you know, from the acting attorney general, is specifically, because what they're saying is, they committed fraud against their donors. They told their donors one thing and they did another thing. And I'm looking at that saying, is that morally what they did wrong? Because if you're making that thing, they told their donors one thing and they did another. And the Southern Poverty Law Center's defense is, no, we were paying these people to get information about the hate groups. And that was it. I mean, that was it. You didn't have anything else in there. It would be very tough to prove unless the sources said, we were paid this money in order to do this specifically, which was against what the donors want. And then you could say donor fraud. Now that may be the case. But what I look at here is when you set up, whatever the reason, because the grand jury might not have heard, and I don't see it in the indictment specifically, what the field sources, we know what they were paid and how they were paid. And you can make the case if you're setting up false companies, false organizations, in order to move money through it, that's the money laundering right there. That's the conspiracy to commit money laundering. You're setting up fake entities, which would be false statements you're giving to the bank. And then the transference of that actual money would be electronically, through the banking system, would be the wire fraud. What the purpose of it is, whether the purpose, you know, if the purpose was to not let the donors know what they were doing with the money, that they were actually, as we talked before, because this is the general umbrella allegation is they were using the money to help create fake hate crimes. I think that would be accurate to say that's the overall moral wrong that was done. How do you get there? How do you get to that point legally? And the legal part of it would be the specific electronic transfers, the set up of the bank accounts, and the setting up of organizations that don't exist in order to move money is where you get the money laundering irrespective of what the intent was, whether it was morally good or bad or aligned with the donors or not, it would still be money laundering. And if you're setting up a fake organization to move money, that's even to me would be more evidence of money laundering. And then the next question would be, if you were paying these people to do this in order to get information about what the groups were doing to report to law and then report that to law enforcement, well, that probably would be what your donors would want. But why do you have to go through all of this? Why would you do money laundering? Why would you set up fake companies? Why would you break the law in order to do this? Would be the question as to the motivation. But I think it would come down to those actual field sources that they paid. You know, that would be the, that to me is the slam dunk. If they would come on and say, no, they paid us in order to rile things up. That's why we got paid. That would be the slam dunk for that case because then you could have a clear intent that it was to defraud. Because that's what they're saying. They were defrauding the donors. That was the goal. The crime would be wire fraud, false statements to a federally insured bank, and money laundering. Now, we'll see where this goes and what evidence they present in the future. But I have to tell you this, when I woke up, I went, wow, because one of the things that I was going to bring up on the show tonight was if you ever watch daytime TV, and if you're up late at night, like I am, you flick on the TV and see what's on. I don't know what it was. It wasn't, it was not a streaming channel. It was over the air. And I had just looked on the TV and was scanning through it. I'm not really sure what channel it was. It was one of the old shows from the 70s or the 80s, whatever. But as I went to it, it was a, it was one of the long, you know, like two minute or three minute commercials that fills up an entire commercial break. And it was for the ACLU. And I'm watching it, and the entire thing is about donating money, what is it, the 19 bucks a month. They don't say it, they say for immigrant rights. Immigrants right, everyone's equal, everyone has rights. What they're doing is they're promoting illegal immigration. They want you to send their money for illegal immigrants, but they won't tell you that. They won't say specifically what it's for. And I thought it's really interesting when you talk about, all right, there you are. This was over the air. It was an over the air channel. And I started thinking about the, again, I'm not saying the ACLU is doing what the Southern Poverty Law Center is accused of doing, or what the indictment says there. I'm just talking about the fact that on the left, they really can't tell you what they're going, what they're doing in anything. I've seen the ACLU commercials out there trying to get people to give $19 a month, and it's very generic. We're for immigrant rights. No. We don't have a, there is no problem with immigrants in this country. That are here legally, well, there may be a few, but you understand my point. The challenge with America is not right now, people that came here legally. Do some of those people commit crimes? Have some of them come in and become citizens and still are not loyal to the United States, and minority of them commit terrorist acts? Yes, but you understand what I mean. That's not the problem as we view it. It's not that everybody is screaming, we need to have legal immigrant rights. That's not what it's about. It's about illegal immigrants, it's about sanctuary cities, and it's about open borders. They can't say that. So that's just one of the things. The other thing is when they talk about women's rights. Really, are they talking about women's rights? When it comes to women's rights, what's the biggest women's rights issue right now that the left supports? It's men playing in women's sports. It's men in women's locker rooms. It's the intimidation of women. It is absolutely the perversion of Title IX. And so that's the second thing that I see in the ACLU commercials, and I'm like, they're not being honest. Then they go to voters' rights. What is voters' rights? What's voting rights? When the left talks about voting rights, what's it about? They're against voter ID. That's what it's about. There is no other voting right issue for the individual. That's it. That's what the left is focused on. But they can't tell you the truth. They can't tell you what they're really doing. You meant we're the ACLU and we care about the rights of illegal immigrants and illegal immigrant criminals, and we believe anybody should be able to enter the country. And we believe that men should freely be able to show their genitals to women in the locker room. And we believe that men should compete against women. And we think that anybody should be able to vote, and we should not have voter ID. Probably if the ACLU ran that ad, they're not going to get as many donations as to pretending that they actually care about people's rights. Now I look at that, you may not be able to legally get that as being a fraudulent message, but it's fraudulent by omission that they're actually not telling you the specifics of where that money actually goes. They throw a general umbrella out that sends you in a different direction from what they actually mean and what they actually will spend the money on because we know where they've gone. It's really funny because the story of Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz becoming a Republican, remember how involved he was with the ACLU? That really blew my mind this week. If you would have ever told me, because Alan Dershowitz was in the news the day that I became a talk show host the first week of October in 1989, and he was viewed as an absolute far left liberal. If you would have ever told me in 1989 when I became a radio talk show host, Gary, by the time you get into this business, over three and a half decades from now, Alan Dershowitz will become a Republican. Yeah, right. Stop doing drugs. That's never gonna happen. And here we are. So yeah, so we'll see where the Southern Poverty Law Center thing goes, but when it comes to where we are right now, with the left, they actually can't tell you what they really want to do. They can't. They can't, they'll get their, they'll get Democrats to donate, but they can't get independence, which is why they won't tell you exactly what they're doing. And the ACLU and their ads will not tell you specifically what the money is used for, what issues specifically they're going to promote. They do it in this general broad umbrella, which sends a ton of people in the opposite direction as to what they actually are going to do. And so you may get some people to donate money believing that the ACLU is going to do one thing when their intent is to use that money completely differently. But if you're not actually saying we're using the money for this and you're using it for something else, how do you get them? You can't. We are Red Eye Radio.

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[36:11] We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with Eric Harley and Gary McNamara.

Speaker 2:
[36:30] We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Harley. He has him morning off. I'm Gary McNamara. Yeah, The Southern Poverty Law Center, it was Dr. Ben Carson, who they called an extremist. And that was back in 2014. He was on it for a while. They finally apologized to him in 2015 and said, you're not an extremist. Dr. Ben Carson, yes, he was an extremist. Look, they're a political partisan smear group at the minimum. It's like the fact checkers. Remember the fact checkers?

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Speaker 2:
[37:56] All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara, Eric has the morning off. Good morning. All right. Well, a one-sided ceasefire continues. The president saying yesterday since there's so many factions in Iran right now, that we're going to continue to ceasefire and then see what happens inside the government. One thing that we said yesterday, we've said this before, is the strongest negotiating point that the Iranians have is that they believe that the United States, no matter who is president, will not go all the way to get rid of them. That's their strongest negotiating point right now. If you look at this president, this president has been tougher on Iran than any president in my lifetime. But the fact is, will the job be finished? I was reading, let's see who was here. Byron York, Washington Examiner. Excuse me, the Daily Memo. Yeah, Washington Examiner.

Speaker 3:
[39:17] Okay, I got it right.

Speaker 2:
[39:19] Trump's frustration in Iran's delaying tactics. If anyone knows that President Donald Trump, for all his bluster, can mean what he says, it's the Iranians. Trump is the president who took out the powerful Soleimani, commander of the Iran's force in January of 2020. Trump is also the president who bombed Iran's nuclear sites in 2025, and the president who attacked Iran in February of 2026. So Iranians know that for all his talk, Trump can also pull the trigger. On the other hand, Iranians read True Social, the media site where the president posts statements about the war against Iran. Iranian officials follow the news and Trump's frequent many interviews with journalists about the war. And the impression anyone would get from reading Trump's thoughts is of a president eager to put the war behind him. Trump seems so eager in fact, that he can appear desperate to get it over with. We talked about this the other day, where it's, you know, when he said Iran wants this, we went, no, they don't, don't say that. The speed with which Trump recently embraced what he portrayed as a breakthrough in talks with Iran, only to have the whole thing fall apart in short order, suggested a president who badly wants to declare the war over now. Trump was fully aware that the Iranians cannot be trusted, and that there was no set-in-stone deal in place, yet he heralded the seemingly good news in a way that made him look over-eager when things collapsed. In addition, Trump has promised from the very moment the war began on February 28th that it would be a very short conflict. This war will be over very soon, he said, on a number of occasions. We're way ahead of schedule. It won't be much longer. He has said on others, at one point, Trump said of the war's duration, we projected four to five weeks, but we're substantially ahead of schedule. The war, now in its eighth week, is still going on. Now, that's nowhere near a forever war, as Trump supporters would call it, but there is no doubt that Trump is unhappy that it is continuing past the time he predicted it would go. Now Trump is pushing back against the idea that the war and its effects on the US economy could go on for a long time. When Energy Secretary Chris Wright said the price of gas has likely peaked but predicted it might remain high, above $4 a gallon until next year, Trump quickly said that Wright was totally wrong. Prices will go down as soon as this ends, Trump said. Iran hears all this, of course. On Tuesday morning, Fox News reported from Israel quoting a senior regional intelligence source who suggested that Iran hopes to wait Trump out. Iran sees this as a game of endurance, Fox News reported. Characterizing what the source said, they believe that time is on their side and that ultimately the domestic pressure when it comes to energy markets and the stock market will force President Trump to make a deal that's in their favor. Of course, what Iranian leaders, whoever they are, believe and what is fact could well be two different things. That is not the reality. The president and his counterparts in Israel have the ability to continue this operation for months if they need to to pressure the Iranian regime to open up the Strait of Hormuz and give up their enriched uranium. That is, of course, true. The United States fighting with the single ally, Israel, has done tremendous damage to Iran so far and could inflict far more if the war goes on. The rational next step, it would seem, to any American would be for Iran to give up and come to an agreement with the US. But who says this war has to end with what Americans would consider a rational decision? Iran gets a say in that. Meanwhile, the president invents frustration almost daily. I'm winning a war by a lot, he posted on True Social this week. Things are going well. Our military has been amazing. And if you read the fake news, like the failing New York Times, the absolute horrendous and disgusting Wall Street Journal, and now the almost defunct, fortunately, Washington Post, you would actually think we are losing the war. Trump is right that some of the coverage has been wildly out of balance and could get an uninformed reader the sense that the US is losing. Still, his problem is far bigger than the negative news coverage. The president who took out Soleimani, who hit nuclear facilities, and who launched a devastating attack on Iran is ready for things to end right now. Unfortunately, his frequently expressed sense of frustration appears to have inspired Iran to drag things out for as long as possible. Now, I won't say that. I won't go as far as that, as Byron York has said. What we have said, though, it doesn't help to fight a war in public and be, as we said yesterday, and be up and down and up and down and up and down because Iran pays attention to what we say. And as we have said, the best leverage Iran has right now is their belief. And I believe that the belief increased yesterday that the president does not have the will to finish the job. Because they've already gotten what they wanted, and that is the delay. The delay is what they've wanted all the time. Now, we'll see what happens. Just telling you what's going on right now. The president may go in and you're boom. And this may be a period where they're like, okay, let's take out the next level of government. As we've said, take out the next level, take out the next level, take out the next level. That they've looked at the United States and they say, it doesn't matter who's in there. And they pay attention to the polling. They pay attention to what the Democrats are saying. They pay attention to the Democrats are cheering. The Iran, they pay attention to Senator Chris Murphy yesterday about the false story that boats were getting through the Strait of Hormuz. And he said, awesome. Oh, I didn't mean that, that was sarcastic. They pay attention to all that. They know, they believe, that half of the United States is on their side, because the Democratic Party is. And then they see what Trump is saying and giving the opinion that it's almost over, it's almost over, it's almost over. And they're like, we can wait this thing out. So we will see what the president eventually does. He has the ability to go in again and actually be more targeted at the leadership with Israel. Will he do it? Because when they came out yesterday and said, JD Vance isn't going because we can't get anything from the Iranian government, and then the president said, there's so many factions in there. I don't know. As I've said, so much of it is speculation as to what the administration knows, what the CIA knows, what Israeli intelligence knows. So we don't know. Is there a chance of a coup? Is there a chance of a civil war? We know there are various factions in there. We know, well, it seems that nobody is in charge. If somebody in the negotiating team said something, it doesn't mean anything. And the one report yesterday came out, I think it was Fox News, it had that the one Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander is the one who was in charge of all of it now. And they know if any deal is done, they're done. And so if you look at it from the IRGC point of view, they're looking at this going, we get to deal with the United States, we're all dead anyway. A deal we're dead, or if we don't deal, we're dead. So why should we deal? That could be the mindset going on there. So yeah, it'll be interesting. I'll tell you this, so I did see gasoline. At one gas station, it was still 375, but the one down the street was 339. Here, so. And it looks like the stock market has basically priced everything in. It did not drop as much as people were expecting when we went through this particular weekend. And it doesn't seem at all that the stock market, it's almost as if they've priced everything in. So we'll see what happens on that front. Is there anything else that he wrote here? No, that's basically it from the Byron York column. But it really mirrors a lot of what we have said over the last couple of weeks. And we always knew it could get to this particular situation. We said it day one. We said it even before. If the Gola's regime change, so much of it's out of your control. What isn't out of your control right now is going after every level of government that comes in to replace the regime that's been killed before. But the fact is the president at this moment will not do that. And do they know something that we don't know? Do they believe that there's going to be a revolution that happens in the next week and they want that to go on? I don't know. Or maybe not a revolution, a coup inside of there. Are there actually moderates that exist? Anybody really but the CIA and probably the Mossad, it's a guess for all of us. We don't know. You know, they've got, as we know, they have people on the ground in Iran. They've got moles in that government that are still left. So they know a heck of a lot more. But as of right now, it's gonna be really interesting to see where this all goes. We are Red Eye Radio.

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[52:15] We are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off. You know, it was interesting when I saw yesterday, I think it was Senator Lawler, who I'm like, this is what the president probably should do because it's actually true. He goes, look, the president said military action for a few weeks. And, you know, four to six weeks, and that's where we are. And now the president for the last couple of weeks has been in negotiations with them about the uranium. And that's where we are right now. The other thing is too, what we don't know is exactly what the situation is inside whatever regime is left and how effective the blockade is going to be. If you keep the blockade on for a couple of weeks, and it has the effect of bringing them to the table and doing exactly what we do, then the president can promote and say, what I said happened happened. We fought for five, we were military action with them for five weeks. The blockade was on for four weeks. You know, the military action ended at that time. We're now in the ceasefire with the blockade and they have come to the table. That hasn't happened yet. But if that does happen, the president at that point can claim victory. I don't know if you're going to get to that point. If you're asking if the Revolutionary Guard is in power and they believe they die one way or another, there's not going to be any negotiations. And so that's where you are right now. But it's just, when you've got, who was it? Let me see if I can find the Fetterman cut from the other day. Because we've talked about the Democrats seem to be outright sharing for Iran to win. And it's the most mind-boggling thing.

Speaker 3:
[54:25] Here it is.

Speaker 2:
[54:26] This is Fetterman on CNN.

Speaker 3:
[54:29] Here we go.

Speaker 12:
[54:30] A lot of people in my party and a lot of people in the media has turned Iran into the younger dog. They're like Rudy and putting them up on their shoulders and cheering for Iran at this point. It's absurd. It's absurd. I'm going to back the president, I'm going to back our military in Israel through until that 60 day is triggered. Then there's an opportunity to extend that by 30 days. No matter how many times you're going to vote, no, no, no. Why? Because that just has empowered and emboldened Iran to continue for these things.

Speaker 2:
[55:06] Did you see where Pennsylvania Democrats are reluctant to support Fetterman for reelection? According to a new report, Punch Bowl News spoke to several Pennsylvania congressional members on Monday about whether they'd be willing to endorse Fetterman for another term in 2028 despite the backlash he's been receiving for opposing the Democratic Party. Want a sense of how tenuous Senator John Fetterman's position is with Pennsylvania Democrats. Not a single Pennsylvania House Democrat in the delegation will say Fetterman should run for reelection as a Democrat. Though the House members do not explicitly reject the idea of Fetterman running again, they avoided answering whether they believe Fetterman should seek a second term as a Democrat, often focusing instead on the 2026 midterm elections. But they couldn't find one single Democrat who they talked to to say, yeah, we like Fetterman. But it's true, I mean, that's what you're dealing with right now. On top of all the other insanity, you've got the Democrats, you know, Chris Murphy, yesterday who was being sarcastic. Well, number one, you were promoting something that wasn't true, that ships were getting through the, you know, the blockade. And then number two, you said, awesome. We live in amazing times, we really do. And coming up following the bottom of the hour, we'll get to some of these amazing times, maybe not good times, that were in the Virginia vote yesterday for their gerrymandering. That more coming up.

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[57:36] And I'm Gary McNamara, he's Eric Harley, he has the morning off. You know, I was just trying to find everything I can about, you know, any new information on that grand jury indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I was just reading here, Paul Morrow, who's a Fox News contributor, focuses on law enforcement, legal and intel issues. He wrote on X, however the criminal case goes, the SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center, is done. Look for the Treasury Department to get involved here because the Southern Poverty Law Center takes donations that they were allegedly passing on to their operatives. Southern Poverty Law Center could be characterized as a money remitter. That puts them in the hopper for crippling. Anti-money laundering fines and that's one of the charges against them is money laundering and that is a great point. The one thing that I didn't bring up yet, and we'll get to everything, don't worry, and I had compared what the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU, what they become is like when we first got fact-checkers, remember that? Well, the Washington Post fact-checker, they've gotten 20 Pinocchios, remember that? The fact-checkers and then Eric and I became the fact-checkers of the fact-checkers, because the fact-checkers were simply a way to BS the public. We're gonna say we're fact, we've got the fact-checker. You saw fact-checkers sort of disappear after a few years, why? Because we realized fact-checkers were simply, when the mainstream media came up with the fact-checkers, they were simply political activists trying to legitimize, spin, through calling themselves fact-checkers. And that's what you have now, whether it's the American Civil Liberties Union, and I mention them because of the commercials that I've seen that they're running here, which clearly do not tell the donor specifically what their money is going to support. As I said earlier, if you've seen these long ads, if you watch any daytime TV, you know. We're protecting voting rights. What does that mean? You're against voter ID? Say that. Say you're against voter ID. And try to, because the whole reason they're running the commercials is to fundraise. It's a whole $19 per month. Well then good, tell them exactly what you want to do. Don't put an umbrella over it that leads people in the opposite direction. Tell them what you actually plan to do. You know, we are protecting voting and racial rights, because that's the whole thing, voter ID is racist. The majority of minorities don't believe that. And that's just one of the things there. But the Southern Poverty Law Center, the same thing. We had a history of going after people that were racist. Now everybody on the right is racist, no matter what. And this is why, I want to get back to what we have said before. This is why, to me, it's like I'm walking, it's like I'm in a dream. It's actually like I'm in a dream. You ever get those dreams where you can't get to what you want? You see something that's so clear in a dream and nobody is making sense at all, and you're saying, what the hell is going on here? There has, to me, in my lifetime, there has never been such a major political organization as the Democratic Party that is blunt about their racism, their misogyny and their sexism. They're blunt about it. Everyone knows about identity politics. Well, Democrats talk about it. Yeah, we need to get rid of the identity politics. We need to get rid of the identity politics. We need to get rid of the identity politics. They never do. But even when they say identity politics, they don't get to the actual meaning of what identity politics is. It's they judge people by the group they're in. They don't judge people as individuals. And the evidence is overwhelming. And I believe the modern movement started, the real modern movement, and I was a part of that modern movement, of talk radio back in the late 80s and then early 90s. When you had a number of, where I saw it, a number of black conservatives start doing talk shows. And they recalled everything from Uncle Tom, you name it. Every racial slur in the book was thrown at them. Tim Scott's heard it. It was the left saying you as a black person cannot have an individual mind. You must agree that what, how we do things is right. If you differ, then you are betraying your race. It got to the point in 2020 with cops, Eric and I will never forget that symbolism of these two young white women screaming at a black cop because he's a cop and saying he's betraying his race. Because he's a cop. And then you heard it from the Democrats. If you're black and a cop, you're not black, you're blue.

Speaker 9:
[64:20] Oh, God.

Speaker 2:
[64:21] It was just. And so the identity politics that exist out there, that's why you have the anti-Semitism. The anti-Semitism exists, I mean, it's the natural progression. Blacks must think this way. Critical race theory was the basis that society should be set up in a particular way because all whites are culturally racist. They don't even know it. Unconscious bias, you don't even know that you're a racist. So all of society must be set up that cultural racism is close to, I always took it, genetic racism, that if you're white, you must be a racist. If you're black, you can't think on your own. You must be a part of the Borg consensus. That's a Star Trek reference. I hope somebody got it. Whatever demographic you're in, you must be a part of the Borg collective. So the racism of identity politics, this is what is is maddening to Eric and I, is that the Republicans still don't pound on this every day. They should pound on it every day. It should be a major marketing thing. The racists are the Democrats. They admit it. And then when it comes to the misogyny of the radical transgender movement, for God's sakes, we talked about it again yesterday. Liberal feminism was killed because the man says so. The man said, women, you're not good enough. We're going to take over your sports. There's no difference between, think about this. Feminism now has said, there's no difference between men and women. They're exactly the same sex. So there should be no private places for women. Women should not be protected from the exposure of men's body to them in the locker room. And if they don't like it, destroy their lives. And the Democrats are blunt about it again. But all they sit there and need to do, okay, let's sit and come up with something. We'll come up with a name for something that sounds like we're for this, but actually we're against it in our practice each and every day. So whether it's now the American Civil Liberties Union, or whether it's now the Southern Poverty Law Center, these are the places that protect you from racism. No, they enable the racism of the Democratic Party each and every day. And they take normal religion, normal thinking, things that are 80-20 issues. For example, voter ID, and they attempt to raise money, the ACLU does, to raise money on these things by throwing out the umbrella. We're for minority rights, voting rights, women's rights, but they don't tell you exactly where that money goes to promote what specific issues. And when you get to those issues, they're the 80-20 against. And that's what we're dealing with today. And that's part of our frustration. And I guess this goes to what happened in Virginia. We'll see what the courts do on it, but look, it was bound to happen. We've seen that the lengths of Democrats will go to. You look at how the federal courts have looked at illegal gerrymandering, whatever that specifically is. But certainly, if you sit there and say that 45 to 50% of the electorate should be given 10% representation, probably most courts would look at that now and in the past, especially, and say, no, that is the tyranny of the majority. And that's the problem with the whole popular vote thing, is the tyranny of the majority. People say, yeah, you can look at Texas. Texas had a better case. Where I think Texas might have failed, and we'll see, is the assumption that Hispanics have permanently moved to the Republican side. That might have been their mistake. But when you look at the population growth in the state of Texas, which is not the same in Virginia, you can actually justify that in a much better way than what Virginia is doing, which is absolutely the tyranny of the majority. But I think they know that long term, they can't sell the American public on what they actually wish this country to become. And we'll get into more of that. We are Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 1:
[70:05] Coming up, more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 2:
[70:31] Here at Red Eye Radio, he is Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara, welcome and good morning. Eric has the morning off. By the way, the whole thing that Texas started it, actually, New York started a few years ago with every district team, so Texas didn't start it. But this wrong, they did. Look, it was bound to happen. And like I said, both parties, of course, have redrawn districts in the past. We'll see what the courts do on Virginia. But the advantage for Republicans, if they can ever wake up, is that on most of the issues, they have landslide approval numbers. And so we've talked about this many times before. What has really hurt the Republicans this time around is the exact same thing that hurt Democrats the last time around, and that's ignoring how people pay attention to prices. You can talk about everything else that you do if you don't get prices out of control. And if you promise the people something, as this administration did, checks for this and checks for that, and it doesn't come true, we have a population of populists that are now in the Republican Party and independents who want what is coming to them. That's the reality of the pathology of dependency that the Democrats started and went full bore ahead, and now more Republicans are behind that same narrative. You know, Eric and I have always talked about we're doomed. That's part of it. That's part of the cycle of doom. When it's, okay, let's tax the corporations, let's tax this. We can get money from these people and you can get it here, and it's all a load of horse manure, and we buy into it every single time. And so, you know, when it comes down to it, I don't think there's a lot of future for the Democratic Party long term. Worst possible scenario, if the courts don't reverse in Virginia and they take the House, is that it all depends on what Trump does over the next few years. Because not much will move if they get the House. It will be, who can sell what the other party has better for 28?

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[73:33] Hi, I'm Joe Salci. I hosted the Stacking Benjamin's Podcast.

Speaker 14:
[73:36] Most economists agree small amount of inflation is actually good. 2% is what you're going for. But why is everybody freaking out?

Speaker 13:
[73:43] Oh, because it's the fallout. People don't track their budget. You have this slow slipping that happens every month. So all of a sudden you go, man, I don't have any money. The reason is now two people go to a restaurant, the bill is 60 bucks for two.

Speaker 8:
[73:55] Two guys walk into a restaurant.

Speaker 9:
[73:56] They start screaming.

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[73:57] Isn't that hilarious?

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