title 2038 - Welcome to Plathville (s8e4) "That Dog Won't Hunt" with Kimberly

description Mary Payne and Kimberly break down another rage inducing Welcome to Plathville (s8e4) "That Dog Won't Hunt". On this episode, we continue to marvel at how perfectly Barry has played this situation as he weasels himself into his former home to see the clutter and Ken shaking with fear in the corner. Ethan decides to move to Wisconsin without telling Teegan, his former girlfriend—SURPRISE! Barry is also on a dating journey and we can't wait to see where this sh!tshow takes us!

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pubDate Wed, 22 Apr 2026 10:00:02 GMT

author Pink Shade

duration 3297000

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Speaker 1:
[00:13] Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. Welcome to Wednesday. That means it's... We won't say YD Wednesday. We say that over on Patreon. We're talking about the Plaths. I didn't come up with it, and it's funny every time. No, this is Welcome to Plathville Wednesday. We keep it cute and nice over here on the... Well, no, not when it comes to these people.

Speaker 2:
[00:33] We could say Wasp-y Wednesday.

Speaker 1:
[00:36] Okay, we'll take it. Well, this is Welcome to Plathville Day. And, you know, as angry as we are, we hadn't gotten that much pushback.

Speaker 2:
[00:47] Good.

Speaker 1:
[00:48] It's pretty good.

Speaker 2:
[00:49] Pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[00:50] Now, I want to read you before we get started. We have a gal that is very active over on Patreon, and she sent the following. And I wrote and said, May I read this? Because it's really, really good. Her name is Minxie. I don't think that's her god-given name. I believe that's her Patreon name. But she says, I am an educated person, and I absolutely adore the English language. I don't swear because I believe for every swear word, there are a hundred other words that can deliver as devastating a blow in any exchange. With that said, Kim Plath can f$ck right off. It's pretty good because I thought, oh no, we're going into curse. She says, what a horrible human being. She actually smirked when the producers asked her if she would apologize to her daughter Lydia at the family sit down. Kim believes she does not owe her an apology because in her minuscule mind, she has done nothing wrong. She was simply caring about her daughter. This is a blatant lie. With the assistance of her troglodyte sons, she actively plotted against her own daughter the week of her wedding. She did her best to poison the well against Zach with her sons and the youngest daughters. She also does not have a strong enough sense of self to simply appreciate how lucky Lydia is to have found Zach and how truly happy she is. Others happiness galls Kim because she lacks generosity of spirit. With the DUI under her belt, finding a catch like KK, Ken and lacking any meaningful relationship with their daughters, one might say the Carver truck has swiped sweet Kimmy. Fingers crossed it keeps rolling over her for years and years to come.

Speaker 2:
[02:46] That's a little harsh given what happened to Kim. Well, we don't just don't say that. But I do. I always say, Carver Drive, Dateline, Karma drives a big bus and she knows everybody's address. And she's coming for Kim.

Speaker 1:
[03:05] I said that to my husband the other night. Karma drives a big bus and it's coming for everybody. And I can't remember in what were we talking about somebody in the current administration. Were we talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Were we talking about Ken Plath? Like, I don't know what we were talking about. But I said Karma drives a big bus and it comes for everybody. But that's not the correct. It knows everybody's address. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:32] Well, we got it from a Dateline. Somebody who it was like a guest on Dateline, who went in, their family had been killed and they were like, Karma drives a big bus and it was everybody's address. And we loved it so much. Put it on shirts.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] Yeah, I love that, too. I love that, too. Well, let's talk about the Plaths. This is season eight, episode four, That Dog Won't Hunt. That Dog Won't Hunt, Fishercut Bay.

Speaker 2:
[03:59] That Dog Won't Hunt.

Speaker 1:
[04:01] Can I pet that dog? So we're at the Plath family farm. Since Lydia is not there, Ken is now the dishwasher. Ken's washing the dishes.

Speaker 2:
[04:14] This mother effer, Kim Plath, will not lift a finger. There's never been a lazier person on TV, and I'm including Beavis and Butthead, and every teenage boy that ever was on our screens.

Speaker 1:
[04:32] Jovan.

Speaker 2:
[04:34] Jovan. Yeah, Kim is so fucking lazy, and she you should not have 18 children if you are not willing to lift a finger.

Speaker 1:
[04:45] That's why you have the children.

Speaker 2:
[04:47] So you have the but isn't there a period at the beginning when the first babies are not able to do chores?

Speaker 1:
[04:55] Right.

Speaker 2:
[04:56] What age in my mouth? And that's probably annoying for people. What age can you teach them to start doing chores? And do you have to do chores those first few years? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:09] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:09] And then you're like never again.

Speaker 1:
[05:11] Yeah. Once that youngest one gets to five and can really start doing the manual labor and get a little stool and wash those dishes, it's over for you. Yeah. I'm just burped. I played it all wrong. I played it all wrong. I should have had more kids. Okay. So yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:
[05:31] You invite your kids back to your home and you're still doing stuff for them.

Speaker 1:
[05:35] Yeah. Inviting. They're just here. So Barry drives up and Ken goes out to greet him.

Speaker 2:
[05:43] And Barry says, Barry says, My favorite scene that has ever happened on TV.

Speaker 1:
[05:48] Barry says, Well, I'm here. I delivering oats for the cows and the horses. This is part of my arrangement with Kim. She's not going to do anything. She's not going to go to the store. She's not going to load this up.

Speaker 2:
[06:04] Again, why pick a farm which requires so much labor to upkeep a farm. She might do better in a condo where someone else takes care of things for you.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] Yes. Just press that button and be like, I need the super to come and fix myself. He asked Ken, where do I put it? Ken goes, and what that meant was, the girls take care of all the animals because you know who does it?

Speaker 2:
[06:35] Kim.

Speaker 1:
[06:36] Kim. But the funniest thing is Barry's like, I got it. It just picks up this 200 pound bag and walks off.

Speaker 2:
[06:43] Nothing for him.

Speaker 1:
[06:44] Nothing. It's nothing for Barry. So Barry says, he's jacked. So Barry says, so what's been going on over here? My home where I lived for 30 years. And Ken goes, and what he said there was, yeah, I've been working with Ethan on the barn. And Barry says in his talking head, it seems weird in a number of ways. So I just try to be casual, try to be nonchalant. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:20] Okay. This, I've never seen two people be more awkward.

Speaker 1:
[07:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:25] Ever. And I was a very awkward teenager. Have these men never had a human conversation?

Speaker 1:
[07:34] Are they AI?

Speaker 2:
[07:36] It's like they're having two different Mad Libs conversations.

Speaker 1:
[07:39] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:40] You're trying to match them up because like Ken will be like, Oh, I love pizza. My favorite food. I love pizza. And then Barry will be like, yeah, I root for the Rangers. And then Ken will be like, which side were you wanting to settle the lore? And then Barry will be like, I really love Yellowstone on TV. I think it's that Kevin Costner is good. It's completely to, I think Barry can't understand Ken. So he's guessing what he's saying.

Speaker 1:
[08:20] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[08:21] And then trying to have the appropriate response.

Speaker 1:
[08:24] Yes. That's a good call. So Barry goes, so settling in OK to my home here, settling in all right. And Ken goes, yeah, you know, I don't feel settled. I got myself on here. Now, Kimberly, would you like to talk? I don't know if there's, I speak drunk redneck. So I know what he's saying, but I'm wondering if you know what some of his things might be that he was hoping that he could bring. Because if not, I've got a picture for you. Would you like to see the picture?

Speaker 2:
[09:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:04] OK, so these are some of the things that Ken likes.

Speaker 2:
[09:08] Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1:
[09:10] These are some of the things that Ken likes. Ken, as you guys know, was trying to sell some slave memorabilia and don't miss the opportunity to own a piece of real American history. He was going to take $400 for that.

Speaker 2:
[09:32] Oh, my God. And I'm still so mad about that reviewer who said that we were calling these people racist. It's based on facts. It's based on the stuff they are posting.

Speaker 1:
[09:44] This is nothing compared to the rest of his Facebook guys.

Speaker 2:
[09:49] This is a slave restraint ball. And someone in the comments wrote, This is pretty fucked up. And he replied, You must be a liberal.

Speaker 1:
[10:00] Tiffany Palumbo, Tiffany Palumbo in the comments. We don't know you, but we salute you.

Speaker 2:
[10:07] We applaud you.

Speaker 1:
[10:08] Yeah, we applaud you. I'll take this off the screen.

Speaker 2:
[10:12] It's very upsetting. It's so upsetting.

Speaker 1:
[10:16] When he says he doesn't have all his stuff, he's missing his Civil War milmere bailio. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[10:22] Man, I went really soft when I joked about a Confederate flag. I didn't know how much worse it was.

Speaker 1:
[10:30] That's bad. But you guys just check out his Facebook, Ken Palmer. Check it out. Okay. Just terrible stuff. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[10:39] Again, now I'm not going to feel bad forever making fun of Kim because this is the person she's chosen to spend her life with and moved into a home with her young children.

Speaker 1:
[10:50] With her young children. Yes. He says, I don't have all my stuff here and Barry goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, good to hear. Yep. Again, two different conversations. Talking to Ken says, I was feeling weird and Barry asked me how I was settling in. I was like, we don't have a lot of stuff. What he said there was, I felt weird when Barry asked me how I was settling in. Barry and I don't have a lot of the same likes, but we do get along. Ken's likes are slave memorabilia and Barry's likes are working out.

Speaker 2:
[11:25] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:27] Just checking. Okay. Barry may also like slave memorabilia.

Speaker 2:
[11:31] He may also like that. I don't doubt it.

Speaker 1:
[11:33] We don't know.

Speaker 2:
[11:34] He likes being jacked more.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] Yes. He likes to feel that blood pumping. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[11:41] He made two steroids.

Speaker 1:
[11:44] I mean, it would be hard for a man that age to all of a sudden get that jacked, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[11:48] He's at least taking testosterone supplements.

Speaker 1:
[11:51] He's doing a lot of pumping.

Speaker 2:
[11:54] But I think they don't believe in doctors, so I think he's getting it off of the streets somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[11:59] I think it's all off the table of what they believe in at this point.

Speaker 2:
[12:02] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[12:03] Yeah. So Ken tells Barry he's enjoyed getting to know Ethan. Okay. You're the only one.

Speaker 2:
[12:13] Does Ethan speak around you?

Speaker 1:
[12:16] Ken says, Ethan was living up north. You know what that means.

Speaker 2:
[12:22] The gays.

Speaker 1:
[12:24] He was with the gays. He said, Ethan was living up north. So I didn't get to talk to him much. But now he's back in Georgia where he belongs. And Barry goes, yeah, you know, he and Teegan broke up and that was rough. That was rough. So Ken says to Barry, uh, relationships. I was like, you didn't date anybody? And Barry says, I think you asked if I was dating. And so, no, no, not yet. And Ken goes, you ain't got to ease into it. You got to like, I don't ease into it. You gotta just like ease right into your wife. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[13:00] This is how Boom Howard talks on King of the Hill.

Speaker 1:
[13:03] It's so. Ken tells Barry he has to ease into dating. Ken, you eased right into this man's wife and home. It's hilarious. So I'm talking to head Barry goes, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, it's not like I want to talk to Ken about my dating life. Although it would be funny if I asked him, how's it going with Kim? Let me give you a few pointers. Good luck. So Barry tells Ken, yeah, when we first moved out. Now, this was weird and somewhere in this storyline, it is production driven, but I can't figure out exactly where, right?

Speaker 2:
[13:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:54] Barry tells Ken, God, when we first moved out here, Ken was very into juicing. Does she juice these days? Does she use the big juicer because she's sure as yet doesn't look like she's been juicing? You know what I'm saying? She's on a different juice. She's on some Jesus juice.

Speaker 2:
[14:09] Hear me?

Speaker 1:
[14:09] You hear me on that one, Big Ken? Got that juicer?

Speaker 2:
[14:12] Hashtag Chubbs. No fatties in my daily profile.

Speaker 1:
[14:18] Oh my God. So Barry gets to the point. He's pumping iron. He wants the juicer, okay?

Speaker 2:
[14:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:28] So they walk around, I looked it up. A juicer could be anywhere from like $150 to $500. So they're not cheap.

Speaker 2:
[14:33] This one was not that big, but I don't know if bigger is better.

Speaker 1:
[14:37] They kept talking about how big it was, and I was like, right, a little box that big at all. I don't know my juicer, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[14:45] He was very can't miss it. Like I thought I was expecting like a printing press machine.

Speaker 1:
[14:50] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[14:51] Like that, like you walk in and the whole room is the juicer.

Speaker 1:
[14:54] You can't get it.

Speaker 2:
[14:55] And it's like the size of like a blender, a shoe box.

Speaker 1:
[14:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:59] So Barry gets to the point. He wants the big juicer. And obviously, Kim's not using it. You know what I'm saying, Ken? So they walk around and Barry literally was like, oh, that looks, wait, that's mine. And he's just looking around like, wait, there's a lot of shit in here that's still mine. So they go into the house, which is full of shit. The house is just hoarders paradise.

Speaker 2:
[15:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:23] Yeah. Remember, 11 people lived there and it didn't look like that.

Speaker 2:
[15:26] It didn't look like this. No. Because they didn't let their children have things.

Speaker 1:
[15:31] Correct. So he finds the juicer and he goes, so let me check out that jukebox. Wow, that's really nifty. You wanna play me some Neil Diamond? So Barry says, yeah, the house doesn't look like what it did when I lived in the house. There's a lot of stuff there. Yeah, a lot of stuff. And I understand blending two houses. Yeah. It's got a cozy feel.

Speaker 2:
[15:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:55] Real cozy feel like a little goat path from room to room. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:01] So shady.

Speaker 1:
[16:03] I love it. I love it. And talking to Ken, I loved it. Ken says, Barry isn't usually around for very long, but when he does get here, we get along. So Barry says, Ken is kind of stoic. So I don't spend time trying to dissect and analyze his non-verbals. Or his verbals, because I don't know what the fuck he's saying.

Speaker 2:
[16:28] It's so good. Barry wins.

Speaker 1:
[16:32] Barry just keeps winning.

Speaker 2:
[16:34] All I do is win.

Speaker 1:
[16:37] And he goes, but I don't get bad vibes. I don't get bad vibes. All right. That's good because he lives with his three children. So over in Cairo at Russell's Military Vehicles, Ethan sees his buddy, his boss, Russell. He is helping Russell. He's Russell got his script the night before and he memorized it.

Speaker 2:
[16:59] He is made for TV. He has all the soundbites.

Speaker 1:
[17:03] Russell said, oh, I'm moving this story along.

Speaker 2:
[17:07] Taylor was trying to do that last week. It didn't work. Russell has it.

Speaker 1:
[17:12] Russell has it.

Speaker 2:
[17:14] This dog will hunt.

Speaker 1:
[17:16] This dog will hunt. Thank you, Russell. You know, Ethan just sort of mumbles to Russell's trying to talk to him. He's like, yeah, I'll just clean this one up.

Speaker 2:
[17:26] That's why he can get along because it's just like.

Speaker 1:
[17:33] Yeah, and actually, they're probably just don't speak.

Speaker 2:
[17:35] Yeah, grunts and grunts.

Speaker 1:
[17:38] It'll be like, how was it when you lived up with those Yankees up north? So he was in Minnesota. So it's pretty purple. What does that mean?

Speaker 2:
[17:54] Red and blue.

Speaker 1:
[17:56] Oh, okay. So, Russell talks about how great Ethan is, how smart he is. He had him come over and tested him, and he was like, he's really great with his work. Russell says, you know, Ethan, I want to retire, and I wish I had somebody to take this shop over. I turn down work every day. If you could really work here with me, business is booming. He jokes with Ethan, he goes, I'll get you a shirt. You know, they'll say, Russell's right here. And Ethan goes, mumble, mumble. And he goes, I even get you a black shirt, which was hilarious.

Speaker 2:
[18:30] It is hilarious.

Speaker 1:
[18:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:31] Also, Ethan expects so little out of life. He's probably like that would convince him to like move somewhere and do a job if he got a cool shirt that he liked.

Speaker 1:
[18:41] As long as it's a black t-shirt style.

Speaker 2:
[18:42] As long as it's a black t-shirt.

Speaker 1:
[18:44] Yeah, we're good. And he goes, Ethan goes, no, I got somebody else's name on my heart. And the talking head, he tells us he has not spoken with Teegan. He has no idea what she's up to. She said she could be dating somebody else.

Speaker 2:
[19:00] Right. But they just go in person and find out. And none of these people on social media?

Speaker 1:
[19:06] I don't know. I don't know if he just, I mean, that's how they met on social media. So I don't know if he just blocked her so he didn't have to see her or he says, she gave me the freedom to move here and see what I want. Is that what he calls when you dump somebody, you have now have the freedom to do what you want? He says, being in George is nice, but not without her and no matter how much I wanted to come back to Georgia, my heart is where she is. So by the way, this never worked with Olivia. It's not going to work with Teegan.

Speaker 2:
[19:39] No.

Speaker 1:
[19:39] Okay. So he tells Russell, he's moving to Wisconsin and Rosa goes, wow, okay, you tell Teegan? Uh-uh. Okay. If you told your parents, mm-mm, no, mm-mm. Okay. So Teegan doesn't know you're coming to move there. Nope, hadn't talked to her in a while. So I'm sure it'll be fine. So we're talking to Eddie, he says, I'm not going to tell Teegan that I'm moving there because she won't believe me because I've said it so many times. So I'm just going to go there and take the risk. And no, I didn't tell my family because everybody's got an opinion and their opinion doesn't matter. I'm going to do what I want.

Speaker 2:
[20:14] Great.

Speaker 1:
[20:14] Wow. So Russell goes, you got any pictures of that little lady that's got your heart? And he, like a normal person would pull out their phone.

Speaker 2:
[20:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:27] Pulls out his wallet like a dad. It was like a little picture from 1987, you know?

Speaker 2:
[20:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:34] Pulls out some photos of Teegan and he goes, oh, you got a receipt there. He says it's a receipt that he has from a date, like from a memento from when they went on a date. Okay. So he's like smiling. He's looking at the picture and he goes, I didn't know you had top teeth.

Speaker 2:
[20:52] Like Forest.

Speaker 1:
[20:53] Like Forest has no top teeth. So Russell says, so when are you going to tell your family? And he goes, probably when I'm on the road. I was like, that sounds about right. Sounds about right.

Speaker 2:
[21:06] I thought the family was going to work on communication.

Speaker 1:
[21:11] And Russell goes, so you got a place to live and everything. And he goes, no, just go get my car and go there.

Speaker 2:
[21:19] This is that white man thing. Like I feel like a woman could never do this because you need like a safe place to stay. Like where are you going to sleep? Like you need to at least five people to know where you're going to be. So in case something happens or you get kidnapped.

Speaker 1:
[21:35] Uh-huh. Yeah. All of that.

Speaker 2:
[21:38] I'm going the open road.

Speaker 1:
[21:40] Yeah. And the open road calls him. In season three, they were watching right now. He just got back from when he left for 10 days and left a note on the door for Olivia and she couldn't contact him.

Speaker 2:
[21:51] Yeah, that's normal. That's good.

Speaker 1:
[21:53] That's how you do.

Speaker 2:
[21:54] Your marriage didn't work. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:55] Yeah. And the talking head, Russell says, honestly, I think it's a mistake. I think it's a rebound thing. Ethan's a family guy and he knows what his family will say, and that's why he's not telling them. Yeah, that is literally the story of his life.

Speaker 2:
[22:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:13] So now let's go on to Barry. Barry is going to meet a matchmaker named Renee. He answered her questionnaires online. I guess he paid her fee. He needs to get the fiela. Who is Barry? Who is Barry? So he can't get his Zoom volume to work.

Speaker 2:
[22:33] No, that was so funny. I can't believe he has a computer even.

Speaker 1:
[22:39] He works in city planning.

Speaker 2:
[22:43] I know it's just so funny just because they feel like they raised the kids without technology, but they of course could do whatever they wanted.

Speaker 1:
[22:50] It was always on her phone. Yeah. So they talk and she says, on my questionnaire, how ready at a scale of one to 10, are you ready to be committed? And you said five out of 10. So what's that about? He says, well, I'm out of a divorce and I'm looking to date. So I would say like I'm halfway there. Talking to Eddie says, I'm looking for the right feel, for the woman to have the right feel, for the kids to think it's a good fit. Now, very interesting as we're going along this journey with Barry. I don't recall Kim ever wondering how the kids felt.

Speaker 2:
[23:31] No, she didn't ever sit down with them and ask.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] No, she just left.

Speaker 2:
[23:37] She saw a Nazi she liked and she went for it.

Speaker 1:
[23:40] She said, that man has got some memorabilia that I'm interested in and that's my man.

Speaker 2:
[23:47] Barry is taking tests to find out what enneagram and what his love languages are before he even starts dating. He's an over-thinker, perhaps. Kim is not a thinker.

Speaker 1:
[23:58] No, under-thinker would be calling it. So Renee says, why didn't your marriage work? Here's where he could have really thrown Kim under the bus. But he says, it takes two to have issues. In the end, she said I wasn't meeting her needs and she felt she didn't have a voice. What? She ran that shit.

Speaker 2:
[24:22] She was the head, the neck that turns the head.

Speaker 1:
[24:26] Yes. That's crazy. He says, she said she felt she didn't feel she was loved as she thought she should be. And that's good feedback. That could help me address any issues I have. I'm a work in progress. I'm trying to better myself. Now, I don't think he was like a touchy feely loving husband.

Speaker 2:
[24:46] Right.

Speaker 1:
[24:46] So it does take two to, you know, but.

Speaker 2:
[24:50] But you also had children running around your home. It's probably I mean, they were having sex because they had so many children.

Speaker 1:
[24:56] Right.

Speaker 2:
[24:57] Then at some point it all stopped. And Kim was exhausted from telling the children how to do all of her work for her.

Speaker 1:
[25:06] Yes. She was very tired from looking up from her phone to tell them to go feed the horses. So she says, what are you looking for? She says, I'm looking for a nurturer. And just from experience, I'm not that interested in alpha females, you know, been there, done that. Yeah. I'm particularly put off by manipulation.

Speaker 2:
[25:28] Yup.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] I mean, that's not a slam. I don't know what is. Oh my God. Hilarious. By the way, I don't think any woman is going to be like, you know, quite a manipulator.

Speaker 2:
[25:41] Right.

Speaker 1:
[25:42] So there's a guy who doesn't want a manipulator, take him off the list.

Speaker 2:
[25:47] Also that he said nurturer, like he because she's so fucking cold.

Speaker 1:
[25:53] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[25:54] Like Kim is just cold and not a nurturer, not a nurturer, even for a mother, especially for a mother of so many children.

Speaker 1:
[26:03] Yes. And he says he likes, he really likes olive-toned skin. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:12] And then he says- So not me, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[26:14] So not you. Oh, you and I are out of the running.

Speaker 2:
[26:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:18] And he really likes the Sandra Bullock look. Not olive-toned skin, but he then is talking, has to something about that movie, Speed with Keanu Reeves and you couldn't drive under 50, and you keep driving or you blow. I was like, everything he says feels sexual and it's gross.

Speaker 2:
[26:38] It really does, but I don't think he knows that.

Speaker 1:
[26:41] Sometimes he does.

Speaker 2:
[26:42] Sometimes he does.

Speaker 1:
[26:43] He does. Sometimes he does.

Speaker 2:
[26:44] Also funny that he's picked a Sandra Bullock movie from 30 years ago.

Speaker 1:
[26:49] I'm surprised he saw that movie because they weren't allowed to watch movies.

Speaker 2:
[26:52] I know.

Speaker 1:
[26:54] So she says, how are your kids going to feel about this? And he goes, I think they're going to be supportive because their mom's already shacked up. And she says, I'd like you to ask each of your kids to write down three things about you. Or does she say three things that they would want for you?

Speaker 2:
[27:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:13] Yeah. He goes, yeah, I'm a single guy in his 50s with nine children. I was like, wow. When you put it like that, like, wow.

Speaker 2:
[27:24] But I mean, only three are at home. He doesn't support.

Speaker 1:
[27:28] Was there 18 there? No, you're cut off.

Speaker 2:
[27:31] I don't even know if he's supporting the other ones at home.

Speaker 1:
[27:35] Just the three.

Speaker 2:
[27:35] Isn't he fighting Kim for that too?

Speaker 1:
[27:39] He only supports.

Speaker 2:
[27:40] Last season wasn't that part of the issue with the divorce.

Speaker 1:
[27:43] Yeah. She was like, I'm trying to do this. I don't have any money. He's like, yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 2:
[27:48] It's tough out there.

Speaker 1:
[27:50] It's rough out there, Kim. Sounds like you might need to work a few more hours at Giorgio's. He says, I have a lot of concern to what my children might think. Oh, it's interesting. Now we see Kim and Isaac walking around the property. For some reason, they're trying to push over trees. She explains that on a property like this, you will come across dead trees and you have to push them over. Because God forbid, if you're riding your ATV, you don't want one to fall on you. You knew it had to come back to her.

Speaker 2:
[28:23] Yeah. Also, I'm surprised not more of those children are not maimed from accidents on the farm. We had one and then we have the one with the BB.

Speaker 1:
[28:38] Well, Kim has said that that's not how it happened, that a strong burst of wind came by in a piece of elastica glass from a bird feeder flew off and hit her in the eye. That was the only story that I heard.

Speaker 2:
[28:56] That's the thing that happens.

Speaker 1:
[28:59] That'd be pretty rare, but getting hit in the eye with the BB is probably more likely.

Speaker 2:
[29:05] I think so.

Speaker 1:
[29:07] Either way, it was a farm accident.

Speaker 2:
[29:09] I don't think, Kim is acting like she lives in these woods. She is walking through these woods in sandals.

Speaker 1:
[29:16] Sandals.

Speaker 2:
[29:17] Which tells me she does not walk in these woods.

Speaker 1:
[29:20] She has walked the 11 feet from the house to pretend she's deep in the woods.

Speaker 2:
[29:25] To pave the area to the woods and then stops.

Speaker 1:
[29:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] Because she is in full on mom sandals. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[29:32] Always, always, always. She loves a stylish wedge. Okay. So she asked him about breaking up with Kailin. I did see a listener wrote me and said that they thought this entire thing with Kailin was fake for a storyline.

Speaker 2:
[29:48] Hmm.

Speaker 1:
[29:50] Like, oh, well, Isaac's doing a good job acting then.

Speaker 2:
[29:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:54] I mean, Kailin is not showing a lot of emotion, but that could just be her personality. Like, did she cry before? Like last season, did we ever see her cry or show a lot of emotion?

Speaker 1:
[30:06] Oh, she's very badass, I think.

Speaker 2:
[30:08] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[30:10] So I'm talking to Ed Kim says, I stopped by Barry's house the other day to drop off the girls, and Kailin was there and crying. Now, was Kailin hanging out with Amber? Was Kailin talking to Barry? Was Kailin there crying with Isaac? Why was Kailin there at Barry's?

Speaker 2:
[30:27] So confused. Everyone loves hanging out with Barry though nowadays. He's the cool dad, fun uncle.

Speaker 1:
[30:37] And she says, I told her, I'm here for anything you need. And she later called me and we talked for a couple of hours, which is Kim's MO to get close with the girlfriends. And then just shit on them the minute she can. So Isaac says, I have a lot of guilt for doing what I did and breaking up with her. I hope I can unscrew what I screwed up. And Kim says, you know, Katelyn is a genuinely kind and good person. She's the kind of girl I would want for any of my sons. She's not like that bitch whore Olivia, am I right?

Speaker 2:
[31:12] That Colgate demon. Thank God we got her away from the family.

Speaker 1:
[31:18] And Isaac says, you know, I think because she's two and a half years older than me, I think I was putting pressure on myself about getting married because I'm only 20 and she's 22 and a half. Her eggs are rotting as we speak.

Speaker 2:
[31:30] Right.

Speaker 1:
[31:32] And he says, there's a lot I need to think about. So the talking head Kim has a moment of clarity where she says, all of my older children have had a hard time in their relationships. Looking back on how we raise them, I would change how I think about sex before marriage. I have a hard time promoting sex before marriage, but now I think it is better to have sex before marriage and really get to know who you're marrying.

Speaker 2:
[32:04] So a couple of things.

Speaker 1:
[32:07] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[32:08] That's a diss on Lydia.

Speaker 1:
[32:11] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[32:11] Because...

Speaker 1:
[32:12] And Hosanna and Ethan.

Speaker 2:
[32:16] You've just said you totally accept Zach and Lydia now, but you're still dissing how they did it. Also, that cannot be your only regret about the way you raised your children. How about how none of them can pass a GED? Or how about how you discourage them from higher education, even though you went to college? Or you kicked Mariah out of the house as a teenager because she wanted to show her legs.

Speaker 1:
[32:45] Yeah. It's interesting that now she thinks it's okay to have sex before marriage. Because she wants to have sex before marriage.

Speaker 2:
[32:56] She wants to bang someone during her marriage.

Speaker 1:
[32:59] Also that she wants to cheat. As they walk, he says, everybody, the whole family thinks I made a bad decision by breaking up with her, but if I can get her back, I'm never going to let her go. I know that that would mean marriage way down the road. That scares me because I don't know if I can get her back. Why can't you just date? Why does it have to mean that you're 20? But Lydia got married at 20.

Speaker 2:
[33:26] They still instilled the dating, whatever, the mindful dating to lead to procreation, courting, to lead to marriage, and to lead to procreation. Right.

Speaker 1:
[33:39] But never forget Kim saying about her daughter, the day before her wedding, she only wants to get married so she could fuck. Kim said that to Ethan about his sister, her daughter. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[33:51] And she felt like that because you raised her like that.

Speaker 1:
[33:54] She did that because you told her that was the right thing to do.

Speaker 2:
[33:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Over at Barry's, the three young girls are knitting.

Speaker 2:
[34:03] Powerpuff Girls.

Speaker 1:
[34:06] Barry is talking to them and he goes, Well, girls, what do you think about old dad getting back out on the horse? I'm thinking about trying to date. And they go, Ew, are you on apps? Ew. And he goes, No, no, no, I've got this gal named Renee is going to help me out. And they go, Okay, good. It's about time.

Speaker 2:
[34:27] Yeah, they're fine with it.

Speaker 1:
[34:28] Yeah, they don't give a shit. They're like, Get out of here so we can sneak out like regular teenagers. So I'm talking at Amber says, I'd love to see my dad date somebody, you know? I mean, yeah, I think it's time. He tells them he has been talking to Renee with the elite dating service and they laugh.

Speaker 2:
[34:46] Elite.

Speaker 1:
[34:47] Elite. And they laugh and they go, it's an app.

Speaker 2:
[34:51] K-road Georgia.

Speaker 1:
[34:52] Not an app. So he says to the girls, what should this woman be like? And they go, oh, and they crank out these qualifications. They say she should like 80s music or country music or at least tolerate it. So I mean, not Kim. She has a good sense of humor. Not Kim.

Speaker 2:
[35:12] Not Kim.

Speaker 1:
[35:13] Adventurous. Not Kim. Likes water activities. Probably not Kim.

Speaker 2:
[35:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:19] Smart enough to help with math.

Speaker 2:
[35:22] Not Kim.

Speaker 1:
[35:23] Probably is Kim just refuses, right?

Speaker 2:
[35:25] Right. That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:26] Good at communicating. Not Kim. Has a motherly side. Not Kim. And what if she likes coffee and has coffee breath? Just like Kim. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:39] I love it how they're kids. Like some of their things are very frivolous and dumb. And then some of them are actually like very important and like very telling.

Speaker 1:
[35:52] I love that they said the coffee breath thing because I think that means Kim's got coffee.

Speaker 2:
[35:55] Kim has coffee breath.

Speaker 1:
[35:56] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:57] Basically the opposite of our mother. That's what we think.

Speaker 1:
[36:00] Can you find Sandra Bullock? Is she free?

Speaker 2:
[36:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:03] So in the talking head, Barry says, well, this was enlightening. You know, my focus is-

Speaker 2:
[36:08] He should be taking notes. Renee told him, write down three things for each kid.

Speaker 1:
[36:14] They did it so fast. His head was spinning. He's like, you guys have obviously been thinking about this. What do you want your new mommy to be like? So Barry goes, yeah, my focus is on the girls and what they think. That's what I have to think of.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] All right.

Speaker 1:
[36:31] Unlike him. Okay. Now we're going to go into something that I'm actually not going to make fun of. And this is Kim addressing her weight gain.

Speaker 2:
[36:41] I know. I agree. I felt bad because we've all struggled or had body image issues or not felt good in ourselves. And especially as we get older, like I do feel like she needs to go to a doctor and get a full hormone check, like because she's probably going through menopause or.

Speaker 1:
[36:59] Yeah. Kim was born in 72. She's four years younger than me, which would make her 54. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:10] She's gone through menopause.

Speaker 1:
[37:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:13] So get your hormones checked, you know.

Speaker 1:
[37:16] You could get a pellet. You could get a pellet.

Speaker 2:
[37:18] But also she needs a ponytail holder because you cannot do a good enough workout with that claw clip half in, half out.

Speaker 1:
[37:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:28] Drupin, you're not going to get a sweat that going that way.

Speaker 1:
[37:31] I hate when people exercise with their hair down. Like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2:
[37:34] No. Oh, I hate that. That's evil.

Speaker 1:
[37:37] That's like an animal. What are you doing? Yeah. So she she says she has put on a lot of weight in the last four years. She doesn't feel good. She doesn't like how her clothes fit. She doesn't even like to look in the mirror. She hates talking about it. You know, she's like, I want to talk about this. But she's going to work on turning it around. She's coming up with a plan to get back in shape. We see her in her good old chalkboard, making a list of what she's going to do every day.

Speaker 2:
[38:07] And she needs to slow her role. Slow her roles. Sorry. I have I'm I'm feeling my roles as I'm saying it.

Speaker 1:
[38:16] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] I'm squeezing my muffin top. She's she's doing this all wrong. She's like treating this like a diet that starts right now. And then she's going to do everything and she's doing categories and yes, she needs to go slowly add one healthy change at a time.

Speaker 1:
[38:32] Yes, all of that. Yeah, all of it. But we know that she comes up with things and makes a plan and then never falls through. And, you know, like adults, so roasted.

Speaker 2:
[38:44] That was her big roast moment.

Speaker 1:
[38:46] Yeah. So she says, it's been hard on me. This, you know, waking, it's been hard on my life. And I'm going to turn it around and do it for myself. And she says, and, you know, I know my hormones are changing, which makes things more difficult. She says at the old house, Barry had installed a ballet bar for her. And when she lived at the farm before, meaning when she was married, they all ate healthy. And it's been very easy to get away from it.

Speaker 2:
[39:14] Because they're cooking them food.

Speaker 1:
[39:16] She doesn't have anybody to cook. She's Uber Eats on Speed Dial. So I feel that girl. Again, I'm not going to make this because this is a struggle. Man, woman, everybody can understand.

Speaker 2:
[39:27] I have not had a single child and have always struggled with my weight and food. And she has had many babies. That messes with your body even more.

Speaker 1:
[39:39] So sort of out of the blue, she says, you know, I used to do a lot of juicing. I think I'm going to go look for that juicer.

Speaker 2:
[39:45] Now, this wasn't producer driven at all.

Speaker 1:
[39:49] In my mind, I'm like, which came first here?

Speaker 2:
[39:52] Right.

Speaker 1:
[39:53] Did she tell production, hey, tomorrow, I want to film a scene where I'm going to talk about the changes I'm making and I'm going to talk about how I'm going to start juicing and blah, blah, blah. And then did production tell Barry, hey, you're into juicing and stuff because you're all healthy. He's like, no, yeah, I used to have one. Somewhere the producer got involved here because there's no way this happened naturally.

Speaker 2:
[40:20] Who's more likely of the two of them to want to naturally want to start juicing? Barry. So I think Barry came first and then they told Kim, you mentioned this season, you want to get in shape.

Speaker 1:
[40:39] So, yeah, look for your juicer. Look for your juicer and let's see what happens. Yeah. Okay. So she asked Ken, she's like, Ken, have you seen the juicer? So she goes into the closet, looking around, he comes in, he's like, and she says, what's that? And he says that Barry came by and asked for it. And he basically is like, it's been in that closet for four years.

Speaker 2:
[41:05] Right. He's like a Nazi deer caught in headlights. He's so scared he's about to be in trouble.

Speaker 1:
[41:11] He's so scared. And she, and then he goes, I don't know. I'm sorry. And she goes, well, I guess I have to take it up with Barry then. Gets her phone out and he just stands there. And the shot is like, he's behind you, run, run. Cause he just stands there.

Speaker 2:
[41:32] And she looks over, he's so awkward.

Speaker 1:
[41:36] She looks over and goes, yeah, you can go back in the living room. Okay. And he just waddles back to the living room. It's so weird. She's so weird.

Speaker 2:
[41:49] Any sort of Kim Redemption story, like you see-

Speaker 1:
[41:52] That we just had just now, that was nice.

Speaker 2:
[41:54] Right. The mask instantly like slips and she gets so mean and like scary and like bitchy. And it is just, she can't even hide it on her. Like I was scared that I took her juicer and then she's going to yell at me to leave the room. And like poor Ken, I can't believe I just said poor Ken. But like she just is, she tell like literally tell him when to go the bathroom to play.

Speaker 1:
[42:24] She said you can go back.

Speaker 2:
[42:25] Scene is over. You can leave now.

Speaker 1:
[42:27] Yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm going to go play Jump on the jukebox. 1984 Van Halen. Okay. So now we're in Eastern Wisconsin. Now I just looked up how far is it to drive from Georgia to Wisconsin? It's about 14 hours.

Speaker 2:
[42:47] Jesus, these people.

Speaker 1:
[42:48] You don't care. Can that car could drive for 14 hours?

Speaker 2:
[42:53] I would not. I mean, he is a mechanic, so I think he feels confident.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[42:57] He broke down at 3 a.m. on the side of the road. He could fix it. I would be scared I'm going to be murdered.

Speaker 1:
[43:04] Not him though. He'd be doing the murdering. Let's be honest. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[43:09] But I remember you and I think you and Amy were talking about that in one of your previous recaps when I was listening to last season about how people in certain areas, like she was talking about Midwest. People are just like, yeah, let's go to somewhere five states over tomorrow. We'll drive 16 hours. No big deal.

Speaker 1:
[43:31] My husband's side of the family is like that. They just, everywhere is driving.

Speaker 2:
[43:36] I don't want to go to LA and it's an hour away.

Speaker 1:
[43:40] They're like, oh yeah, so the one sister is going to go over and see the dad. I'm like, that's a 10 hour drive. Well, she's going to swing by the other. I'm going to swing by four hours over there.

Speaker 2:
[43:50] Yeah. What? Why? Mind blowing. How did their backs hold up? Do they have special seats in their cars with the beads?

Speaker 1:
[44:00] Dave will say salt of the earth.

Speaker 2:
[44:02] So yeah, hardy stock.

Speaker 1:
[44:03] Hardy stock. I'm not yet. So he says, well, I just packed up two bags of tools, two duffel bags full of clothes and some cash. That's all I need.

Speaker 2:
[44:16] It's like he's robbing a bank.

Speaker 1:
[44:17] That's all I need. And there's a parking lot nearby by the mall. He's just going to go over there and spend the night. So he just drove straight through and he goes-

Speaker 2:
[44:27] The amount of planning I would do if I was going to, I'd be like renting a van or taking my brother's camper van. Like I'd make sure the windows blacked out. I'd make sure I have plenty of food, like cell service, I'd have an emergency locator beacon. Like he literally didn't bring a toothbrush. He brought some Wranglers and some black t-shirts, and he's going to lay down in the backseat with the old windows that are not tinted. And just anyone can see in. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[44:56] He's got a blanket. And he goes, no, like I'm not going to tell her. I'm just going to find a place to live and then show her through my actions. You're going to go to this small town, find a place to live, sign. He keeps saying for January. So is it December? Is it November? And he plans to spend December with his family. And like, it's unclear. He keeps saying for January. Is it December 31st? Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[45:28] So he says, you know, before you even talking to her, you are going to sign a lease on an apartment.

Speaker 1:
[45:34] Right. She could fully be dating somebody else.

Speaker 2:
[45:37] She could be married.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[45:40] She could have gone to Vegas and done a shotgun wedding, gotten back with an ex of hers. Is she with like, does she talk to the father of her child?

Speaker 1:
[45:48] You know, I don't know. So he goes, you know, when Isaac broke up with Katelyn, it made me think, what the hell is going on with all of us? When it comes to communication and relationships and love, none of us know what we're doing. You know, you're really supposed to do that in your teen years. You're supposed to have relationships and learn. And, you know, I pretty much like the way I grew up. But as far as dating and relationships, I will not do it the same way. I mean, it has been a hindrance, not a benefit.

Speaker 2:
[46:20] For sure. For sure.

Speaker 1:
[46:22] Duh.

Speaker 2:
[46:22] Even just going to a public high school for some of those years.

Speaker 1:
[46:26] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:28] Would have made a huge difference for all of these kids.

Speaker 1:
[46:32] So he says, well, being here in Wisconsin, being one minute away from her house gives me peace to know I'm near her. So he calls his mom, she says, hey, what's going on? You're out working in the barn. You get a little early start in the barn.

Speaker 2:
[46:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:48] And he goes, no, I'm in Wisconsin. And so I understand this is where I live. Now I've moved. She's like, so weird.

Speaker 2:
[47:00] But we're getting better at communication, I thought.

Speaker 1:
[47:03] The barn is half done and he goes, I'm going to look at a written place, getting some places locked down for January. And she was like, okay, so you've told Teegan. He goes, no, no, no, she doesn't know I'm here. And Kim goes, so what are the reasons that you're not telling her you're there? He says, well, I've made plans many times to move and never did. So I think it's interesting. He's not saying like I said I would move like he said, I made plans to move and never did. So he probably like got cold feet on signing a lease after they found a place. And I mean, I think it went really far. And he goes, he goes, so I just wanted to lock it down to show her that I'm doing it. And Kim goes, so your car, you don't think she's going to see your car? And he says, no. And she goes, okay, Ethan, don't like drive by her house at two in the morning or anything, like really, like this is getting creepy. And she says, you know, the worst thing you can do is, or the best thing you're going to be able to do is prove her wrong by doing what you say you're going to do. So that'll be, that'll be the best outcome. She'll see, hey, I'm proving you wrong because I'm doing what you thought I wouldn't do. But also the worst case scenario is she's going to think it's really weird that you're in town and not telling her. It's weird. It's weird.

Speaker 2:
[48:23] You're like driving past your kid's school.

Speaker 1:
[48:25] Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2:
[48:26] Trying to pick your kid up from school. She's like, where, you moved here? You didn't tell me? Are you a stalker? Are you going to kill me?

Speaker 1:
[48:34] It's strange.

Speaker 2:
[48:35] I never thought, again, listen to Kim. I never thought those words would come out, but she's giving really good advice.

Speaker 1:
[48:41] She's like, it's weird. It's weird. And he says-

Speaker 2:
[48:44] She's thinking like a woman. And he-

Speaker 1:
[48:48] Yeah. And he goes, I'm going to find a place. And then after I find the place, then I'll tell her. And Kim goes, yeah, I just, just go ahead and let her know. Go ahead and let her know you're in town.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] Yes, please. Call her right now.

Speaker 1:
[49:01] Yeah, because this is creepy. So he's in the car with the producer driving. And the producer goes, so tell me about this car. 1976 Plymouth. I don't know what the fuck. I didn't care.

Speaker 2:
[49:11] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:12] The car doesn't care. And the producer goes, well, it's very recognizable. And as production is asking him about it, she drives by. I paused it and went back. Did you?

Speaker 2:
[49:23] I paused it too. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:24] I paused it and went back to see which car it was.

Speaker 2:
[49:28] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[49:30] And it was like just like a little black SUV because he was like, yeah, he followed that car. And he goes, now I'll start driving by. She's like, shut up. What?

Speaker 2:
[49:39] Did she see you? Did you lock eyes?

Speaker 1:
[49:42] They had to have locked eyes. If you saw that car, is all that blonde Aryan Nation situation driving it.

Speaker 2:
[49:49] Yes. You're seeing a car from the 70s with a white blonde cowboy in it. Like you with a black t-shirt, you've full with a camera person in the car with the front seat. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[50:04] Yes. Because you know, the camera guy's in the front and then the producers in the back asking questions.

Speaker 2:
[50:10] Yeah. So what the what Kim feared would happen is exactly what happened.

Speaker 1:
[50:15] Within five minutes.

Speaker 2:
[50:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:17] Within five minutes. So next time on, Barry goes to some sort of crossfit squat on a tire situation. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[50:28] Yeah. It's like a booty boot camp, like a boot camp class in a park. But God bless.

Speaker 1:
[50:34] Yeah. God bless everybody who wants to do crossfit.

Speaker 2:
[50:36] Not going to do it.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] Not going to do it. Not for me. Barry goes to work out and two women are saying at our house, we call him Plath Daddy and he does Plath Daddy.

Speaker 2:
[50:47] He's loving it.

Speaker 1:
[50:49] Loves it.

Speaker 2:
[50:50] These women could probably set you up with someone.

Speaker 1:
[50:53] Don't they have a friend or do they say he has nine children? So no. He only supports three.

Speaker 2:
[50:58] He only supports three.

Speaker 1:
[50:59] I mean, Amber's two years away from being kicked out. Ethan calls Teegan and says, hey, I got something for you. And you let me know when you go pick it up. And she goes, wait, I'm going to pick it up? Yeah. So I don't know if she didn't see him. Maybe she's driving her kid to school and was-

Speaker 2:
[51:23] I kind of thought she called him and was like, hi. Like, where are you?

Speaker 1:
[51:29] Like, and I wonder if this- And here's the thing too. He's going to get a place because he's going to get his own place so they can get back together. But like we know that like actually he wanted to get engaged to her and they broke up and then they're getting back together and all this stuff. So I think he's like, he's not moving in with her and her kid.

Speaker 2:
[51:48] Right.

Speaker 1:
[51:49] Right.

Speaker 2:
[51:49] Yeah. Which I actually do think is better. Like take it slow, get your own place. Don't go right back to like-

Speaker 1:
[51:58] Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[51:59] Jumping into. So that's okay.

Speaker 1:
[52:02] But what do you think it is that she's picking up? Is it like a copy of his lease or-

Speaker 2:
[52:08] I think yeah, he's or he's just trying to do it in a cute way where she's like picking it up and he's like, yeah, I'm here now. And he stands outside with the jukebox.

Speaker 1:
[52:19] Boombox.

Speaker 2:
[52:20] Boombox.

Speaker 1:
[52:21] A jukebox would be hard to pick up.

Speaker 2:
[52:23] Ken's jukebox.

Speaker 1:
[52:27] Oh, it's like an extra key to his apartment or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[52:30] Oh, that would be good. Darcy would love that.

Speaker 1:
[52:34] She would start crying. Katelyn and Isaac are sitting in the car and she tells Isaac, I'm going to tell you something. I know my self worth and I don't take bull crap. And he goes, I'm just asking for a second chance. And she says, I don't give second chances.

Speaker 2:
[52:55] But I think she does, I think she probably does because we saw second chances. Just don't give third or fourth chances.

Speaker 1:
[53:03] Like, okay, let's see. There they are.

Speaker 2:
[53:07] So there they are in their promotion pic.

Speaker 1:
[53:09] Yeah, there they are.

Speaker 2:
[53:11] But I do admire her knowing her self worth. I love that. This is so stupid. God, he's the Fred Merchant.

Speaker 1:
[53:22] Every time I see this picture of him, it looks like they put his head AI'd onto his own body.

Speaker 2:
[53:30] But wrong.

Speaker 1:
[53:31] It's a strange picture. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[53:33] And he has one foot up with his boots. He's doing like a dance pose like when I was in dance recitals. It would be like, kick up the one foot.

Speaker 1:
[53:40] Yeah, sassy.

Speaker 2:
[53:42] Sassy.

Speaker 1:
[53:42] Yeah. So duff. Oh my God. Kimberly and I have talked for four hours today. We're a little punch drunk. Everybody, that is Welcome to Plathville. Please make sure you are following us over on social media. That is Pink Shade Pod and at date Dateline. And we're trying to get our YouTube numbers up. So in addition to watching this over there, can you just hit Subscribe? And if you do, please go on over and subscribe to A Date with K and K. Kimberly and Katie are now putting all of their A Date with Dateline stuff over on YouTube as well.

Speaker 2:
[54:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[54:23] It's a brave new world, guys. We're just trying to...

Speaker 2:
[54:25] Scary time for ladies with a face.

Speaker 1:
[54:28] Scary time for people that went into podcasting.

Speaker 2:
[54:33] For a reason.

Speaker 1:
[54:34] For a reason.

Speaker 2:
[54:35] All right.

Speaker 1:
[54:36] That's it, Kimberly. I will talk to you on Friday when we cover the single life for Pink Shade Prime. Okay. Yeah.